Door Bumper Clear - 40 - I Don’t Like Licorice

Episode Date: November 1, 2016

Brett, TJ, and KB recap Martinsville, new NASCAR rules, and Halloween costumes. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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but you will learn and you will laugh. Door, bumper, clear is on. Hey, everybody, I'm TjMajors, Spiter the 88 Cup car, the 7XFinity car, and the 29 truck. And joining me. Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler, and our lovely co-host. Hey, guys, it's KB, and happy Halloween. It's October 31st. Is that a Halloween jacket?

It's a straight jacket. You like it? Because I'm mentally insane. That's kind of what I thought it was. It's actually the day after Halloween. So I hope everyone's Halloween was nice and delightful last night. And everyone survived. Yeah, I don't.

Do you steal your kid's candy? No. Did you ask that last week? Did I? I don't get into candy. I'm not a big candy person either. Halloween, I hate Halloween for candy because... Well, your kids are allergic to a lot of it.

Kid. Kid. Well, I meant Brett's kids. Y'all's kids. Yeah. So you don't really know, like, and, you know, they reach their hand in a candy bucket, and there's an open Reese's peanut butter cup in there some reason.

They get a hold of it somehow, touch it or whatever. It's not a good thing. Do you remember when we were younger and like they would tell you don't reach your hand in there because there could be like scissors or a needle? Because adults are a assholes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what we learned. Yeah. So Hope Halloween was really good. So TJ's point there's actually something called a teal pumpkin project. And what happens is when you're trick-or-treating if you see a teal pumpkin, it means they're giving out candy items that do not contain food allergies. Oh, that's awesome.

So basically no nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, look. Gift cards. My sister gives up pencils and like stuff like that because. Tutsi roll, Starburst, Skittles, like, all those are allergy safe, you know. Those are all good.

You just can't get it to the Snickers and are aces pieces. When you get into chocolate, it's usually pretty bad. Are you guys the cool dads that give out full Snickers bars? Like, like, I don't even buy stuff like that. We just told you we don't do Snickers. Yeah, we don't buy stuff like, like I don't even purchase. Even to give out? Yeah, I'm not, I mean, the odds.

It's not in our house. You're having an allergy attack right now. Or you got fleas. Yeah, she's over here itching like a dog, man. Listen, it is 8 a.m. I am not awake. So you're not a morning person. No, I'm not a morning person. You're not a morning person.

You know, I can get up and cook your husband breakfast and stuff. No. Yes, you will. Yes, you will. Oh, yeah. The princess. Yeah. T.J's heading to Disney World.

Yeah, I'm, when you're hearing this, I'm already there. That's awesome. Good for you. What are you riding first? You know, this trip is all about riding Space Mountain for the first time from Madeline because she's been scared of roller coasters and stuff. And she's rode roller coasters, but nothing real, nothing real big. And Space Mountain, it's not a bad roller coaster.

Oldest ride in the park, still got the longest lives. Yeah. Have you ever written it? Yes. I mean, it's just dark. Yeah, and there's cool stuff in there to just look at. It's just dark and, like, neon lights and stuff. It's not even like roller coastery.

It's more experiential. Just kind of some spiral down kind of. That aerosmith coaster at Hollywood Studios? I've never ridden it. Holy cow. I've never ridden that either. I've never. That thing.

Rock and roller coaster? It's aerosmith. Yeah, I had to ride it twice because the first time I didn't know my eyes. I was like, I got to ride again. Like full on roller coaster, like, oh, yeah. Full on zero to a hundred shoots you out. Like you're sitting there and they're like, put your head back. And it was, you go.

It's like three seconds you're doing 100 or something like that. It's really ridiculous. And it's jet by your stomach and your body. And they're Blair and Aerosmith songs the whole time too. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it should be fun. Pour some sugar on me. Yeah.

As you're vomiting. They got the good part of the trip because they've been on a cruise for the last two days with it. They went on our short weekend cruise. So you're just meeting them down there? Yeah. Oh, dude, you'll clear security in no time then. Yeah. Other than that one thing you'd like to do.

Yeah. Yeah, we don't want to talk. Do I want to know what you two are talking about? No, probably not. No, probably not. No. Don't tell Kristen. Geez.

She needs to breakfast. Anyway, so we ran Martinsville. Yeah. Well, I guess we should thank Exalta. We should because we were in the Exaltes Studios. That's right. We've got one main. How did we get one main financial?

Lending made personal. Lending made personal. There's over 1,800 branches, right? Yeah, if you need a loan, go to 1Mayfinite. I'm going to get one main to lend me some money so I can paint my house. Yeah. You're going to need a loan when you get back from Disney World. Yeah.

Yeah, that's true. They get you down there, man. A Coke's like $47. Yeah. Well, luckily, we get a bit of a discount because my wife's a travel agent person for them. Right. So she gets discounts at certain places and stuff. So it's a little bit more manageable.

I still don't want to see the bill. Have you heard from them since they went on the cruise? Yeah, she's got, she gets, when you get on the boat, she gets the Internet package, just a small one, and she only turns, she turns her phone on like three or four times a day, just send me a couple text messages or whatever. Yeah. Keeps me updated and stuff. Where's the cruise go, like around the Bahamas?

They stopped in I forget where they stopped They stopped into Bahamas somewhere And then they went to the private island Castaway Kay That's cool Yeah So I've seen nothing but

Halloween pictures from a boat And beach pitchers And you're here with us I mean at least Martin'sville weather Was a good weekend Yeah beautiful weather Yeah I was a little bit disappointed in the race yesterday

And what about the truck race too It never really got that Do you think it's the tire? Do you think it's the chase? Do you think it's the driver's being... What is it? You know, I don't know. Normally, I think the chase has a lot to do with it.

Nobody wants to wreck that guy. Nobody wants to... You know, I saw a guy... So, late in the race yesterday, I seen Brad making this charge from the back. He ran us down fast, and I told Jeff, look, this guy's coming. You know, I thought we ran a good lap,

and I was watching us last time. We were like a 93, 95, 89. I looked down there, and the two car ran like a 70-something. This isn't even, like, look, we're not even, it's not worth us messing with him. We're just going to let someone else catch us if we start messing with him. So I told Jeff, I'm like, well, this two cars come and he's, you know, just ran a 70. We ran a 90. You know, they can see the times in the dash.

Yeah. He finished second, right, Brad? Yeah, so he blew by us. And, you know, the Gibbs cars kind of gave him a little bit of a problem until they realized, look, man, this guy is coming. Yeah, he's going to wreck us. Yeah, and he should have. I mean, he's going for the win. I mean, you're holding him up.

Yeah. And numerous times I've seen him lift to cut, like, he lifted two or three times for the 20 car to pass lap cars when he could have forced it pretty hard. And I think normally in a regular situation, if it counted for his win, he probably would have. We watched the Gibbs cars right around at Talladega in line in the back. We almost watched them right around and lying at Martinsville in the front. They weren't racing each other at all. It's clear they've got a strategy. I just think their strategy is about to backfire

because last year only one guy won a race in this three race deal in advance to the final round. The other three guys got in on points. Well, Jimmy's already busted off a win. He's gone. You got Texas coming up. That's going to be a big deal. And you got Phoenix, which everybody's already given Harvick the trophy.

So, man, if you throw in a Keselowski or I'm sorry, a Ligano or somebody win in Texas, and then Harvick wins, man, they, they, they've only got one chance to get in on points. So I don't know that their strategy here may not backfire. Yeah, and it's really, I don't know. You know, this whole, I realize they're playing it as smart as you can. They're playing the safest route they can play. But, you know, like you said, I don't think that's the right.

I think it works at somewhere like they played it right at Talladeghur, to be honestly. But, you know, they made the race terrible for it. You know, it looked bad when you have. Well, it's the whole 100% rule, which people are saying, well, if it's part of strategy, then it's okay. Okay. Well, no, that's not the rule, though. Yeah, it's not the rule. And, like, you know, the 78 dominant car in the beginning, pulling over and lifting so the 20 and 18 can lead laps.

That's not. That's not a hundred. That's not. You're telling me that 78 ran 100% that lap? You know, nothing against him. He's doing what he's told. Right. You know, that's not 100% lap in my eyes or even close to it. Well, that's the thing. People don't realize sometimes the hierarchy that goes on with some of these decisions, right?

because you've got manufacturers, then you've got owners, then you've got team managers, and then you've got crew chiefs and drivers that are your peers. And sometimes these guys sitting in the seat are doing, to TJ's point, what they're told. But we've got this 100% rule, which was supposed to fix all that, which I don't know. I don't see it. Yeah, I don't know. They throw that one out the window. I don't mean, how you even.

Well, you can't police it, which is why you don't police it. Yeah. Yeah. How Clint do yesterday? We had the best car we've probably had all year. We finally got up into the teens, and we came in for a pit stop, had a loose wheel, and it screwed the studs up. So every time we pitted it after that, we had loose wheel.

So we had to put a wheel spacer on. And long story short, ran 28th with a car that was certainly capable. That time-wise late in the run of running top 10, you know. So unfortunate, but it was part of racing. Yeah, it is. I mean, TJ will back this up. It seems like when you have a bad car, you can't do anything to screw your day up. You just run bad.

When you have a good car, it's like, man, something happens and it screws your day up. So it sucks. Just one of those weekends. There's so many variables that go into this stuff that, you know, a loose wheel, lug nut, anything. And, you know, it could be anything. Sometimes lug nuts fly off and get jammed down between the tire and the, you know, when they put the wheel on. Cause a fire. I mean, you just crazy stuff happens.

You never really know what's going to happen. Yeah. So you guys ready to go into spot-on, spot off? Sure. Let's kick it. All right. NASCAR announces rule change for cup drivers. Spot on, spot off.

Right. Man, I go spot on. I think we told you guys this was coming before it actually got here. I think it's an incredible opportunity for young drivers coming up through the sport to potentially get a lot more seat time. I think it puts our company, Junior Motorsports, in the driver's seat in terms of the ownership within the series because we're going to fill at least three full-time teams next year with Xfinity drivers.

So our guys are going to be sitting in an awesome spot. The Cup guys can realistically run everything but Homestead, you know, if they've got less than five years experience. And I think that's important because it lets guys like Kyle Arson, Austin Dillon, come back and practice the little things, you know. And I heard Dave Moody say something really stupid on Sirius XM. He's, well, Joe Gibbs is just going to split the races up. He's going to put Denny Hamlin in 10, Kyle in 10, Matt in 10, and whoever. And they're going to still run them all. Hey, guy, they can't.

They can't run the last seven, right, of the. the Xfinity Chase. They can't run the chase races. There's 11. They're not going to run non-companions. There's five. So you only have 15 races that they can put Cup guys in. Obviously on one particular car.

So I think there's nothing but positives as far as this rule change goes. Yeah. And spot on. It's creating better breeding ground for the Cup series. We should be able to, you know, we should be able to put more drivers in there that people don't know of, you know, we're going to have guys coming up through the ranks more. and filling seats more because they're going to have to. So it should, I like it.

Are you guys at all surprised with how quickly it went from rumblings and rumors to the actual announcement by NASCAR? It's not the first time it's been talked about. It's just finally, I think Kyle has really pushed this rule just by ruining a lot of races that he honestly probably shouldn't even be in. I mean, like, I look at a perfect example to me is looking at somebody like, like Brad run him. He runs, what, three, four a year? You know, that's it. Yeah. Same thing with Lugano and them. They're here and there,

and they make the races interesting at times, but we shouldn't have one guy dominating every week. I still think there's two other things that came into play, and that's Dash for Cash. You're going to win $100,000 if you're the highest fin of the guy. And you finished fifth. That's not exciting. Yeah, I mean, it's confusing. It was exciting a couple times, but the camera wasn't on that. It was on the guy leading a race by three seconds. Right. So I think the dash for cash played a role and this Chase 100% played a role because you can't get to Homestead a winner tech all type format which we're promoting and that guy run fifth and win the championship super super confusing. So and you know to

to the point of where we are as an organization, I think J.R.M. is the second best organization on the track right now in the Xfinity series. Gibbs is the best. If you take Kyle out of that car, it's almost like we're the best because we can run with the rest of those guys. And T.J. can speak to this probably even better. And I can, but when you've been in a higher horsepower car and you come back in a lowered horsepower car, everything is happening slower, so you're going to be better. All that track time Kyle's getting in that cup car throughout the weekend. By the time he gets in the car on Saturday, he's got four more hours in a race car than

anybody in the Xfinity series had. So, I mean, he's run qualifying in a cup car. He's run a cup practice. He's run another cup practice. He's run a cup happy hour. Then he comes and gets in this Xfinity car and everything's a slow motion to him. Yeah, plus he's been doing it for so long, too. I mean, he could probably drive around these tracks with his eyes closed.

Yeah, this is the second time we've kind of seen him make a rule change. When he came into the truck series with Roush, he was really young. I mean, this was forced, really. I mean, it's not like they were very shy about it. He's not been, you don't see Kevin Harvick run on every single race. How many wins would he have? You know, how many wins would Dale Jr. have if he ran every Xfinity series race he could run, you know? Right, right.

I mean, come on, man. And most of these guys don't want to run all those races. They want to be fresh on Sunday. Yeah, and nothing, you know, not taking anything away from them. But come on, man, you're a Cup Series driver now. Let these other guys run. You don't see all these other guys running every single week and just ruining it. I mean, why?

Yeah. Spot on, spot off. There's only one Ford in the round of eight. That'll change next year. Yeah, I mean, I'd definitely say spot off for Ford. And I think it goes back to the Stuart Hauss move. I think Ford saw this coming. Ford saw a rouse on the decline.

Ford saw all their eggs were pretty much in the Penske basket. If one of those guys struggle, then they only may have one team. So they went out and procured Stuart Haas and here we go. So their spot off for Ford as well, but it's almost like they were just a little late in seeing what was happening. And, you know, they're paying the price now, but I feel like next year they'll rebound. Spot on, spot off.

how NASCAR handled extended caution at Martinsville. Holy confusing, cow. You know, I'm kind of, I'm kind of for, I'm spot on and spot off on this. I'm spot off that we, it took 29 laps. Is that how many it took? Yeah, I'm spot on, but in Martinsville, that's, it's quick at Martinsville. It's not like we were there for 30 minutes. It's still burning a lot of the race for the fans of, yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to say it was probably, what, 15 minutes, 10 minutes, or something. Probably. But they needed to do whatever it took. I don't care if it was 40 laps or, you know, red flag it, whatever. But there were so many moving pieces at that point in time. And for a while there, the drivers weren't listening.

People were driving up to where they thought they should be. And it makes it even harder. So it's not all NASCAR that's doing this. Yeah. When you got a guy, when you got the 20 car passing 12 cars by himself because he thinks he's up there, that screws up things. They're trying to get everything in line, and they can't, when you've got other pieces moving, it's just, it makes it even more confusing.

So, you know, you need to let them do their job, but, you know, it's, they needed to get this right. Yeah, I'll say spot on for their effort. I'll say spot off for the end result. I think it was somewhat confusing when the yellow come out during the green flag pit stop. And then. It always is. When Jimmy Johnson ran out of gas on the backstretch, and then A.J. Amundinger pitted.

out of sequence he pitted when pit road was closed it screwed everything up because that's when everybody started jockey and like when when j amadinger hit pit road in hindsight when they go back and watch all this footage i hope they say at that point we should have said stop the field it's frozen at start finish line we got to figure all this out is nascar just scrambling around in the tower when oh trying to figure out what they're going to actually do probably yeah well and there's a lot of voices up there right yeah there's a lot of people in there and then but there's so many things is happening. Like, they got to go back.

When the college comes out, it's basically frozen. Then you got to go back and see what cars were on Pit Road. If they beat this certain guy out of the line. And then you throw in the 47 coming down pit road, who was the leader, because he's out of gas. That messed everything up. So all these guys that were behind the 47 that are now behind the pace car, but they're in front of the next guy in line, the leader now, they're like, oh, we should be waved around. Well, that's not how it works.

And they're all sitting there saying, we're not well. wave around car. We're not a wave around car. Well, if you pass the pace car with one to go, you're a wave around car, and you did. They gave the one to go, and they moved the 20, the 78. All them guys got moved up, and they're like, well, we're not wave rounds. We were in front of the leader. Well, not when it was frozen. You weren't. All I can tell you is the seven car was on our lap. He was a half a track ahead of us. When they called out the restart order, he was two cars behind us.

Then you have the on-air commentary trying to explain it to viewers. Yeah. So then you throw in the driver. is driving to where they think they should be. Which is like Regan Smith. He's livid because he thinks he goes in front of us and he did kind of, but he didn't. Yeah, and once you get that far back too, it's even, I can't even imagine

trying to get it figured out from 15th on back between one lap downs and two lap downs and stuff like that. They've got to have an old button and they got to hit it and it's got to stop everything as it is and then let them go back and figure it out because they have loop data, they have computers, they have about 10 people in that booth that are

studying all these things. I think they did. as good of a job as they could, considering we've never been in that position. Like, I didn't know if they were going to. Well, that's happened one other time. Wasn't it Dover or something? Yeah. I literally, I was like, man, they may make Matt Kens the leader here. I don't know what's going to happen.

He's the first car behind the pace car. And he's the first car behind the pace car and he's on the lead lap. And they haven't opened pit road yet, which is why these guys were saying maybe they should have let the tail in come around and get caught up. It was a very, very different situation. You know what? That's because the 47 pulled off, though. The 47 was in front of them.

but he was not supposed to do that. He chose to do that. Yeah, I know, but still the field's locked. The field is locked, but Matt Kenseth is now the first car behind the pace car on the lead lap. But see, this is what happened before, though. And there's nothing behind him.

But he's still a wave around because you're locked behind the pace car. So you're still a wave around. He is a wave around, and he's sitting P6, but again, what is NASCAR going to do here? So are you guys up top doing this,

talking to each other trying to figure out what? The only thing I don't agree with. We're talking to our crew chief engineer driver. You're not talking to each other. We're speculating what we think may or may not happen. And then you're like, because see, for me, Dale Jr., I'm sorry, I'm looking at the 88 car in my head and say Del Jr., for me on my monitor, Matt Kenseth is the wave around. There's only one wave around per caution.

Then when the 47 pits, Matt becomes a lead lap guy, then the 88 with Jeff Gordon becomes a wave around. Well, that in itself was I was like, whoa, we've already done something wrong. Now I'm out. Like, I'm not trying to put my opinion in here and get it wrong, but I don't know what they're going to do with his 20. You know, that was the keeper. Because he had already pitted.

He's on the lead lap. He's the first car behind the pace car. And nobody, like, it just was weird. That's chaos. So he was, uh, I just know that when they did it last time, the field was locked because I was one of the guys that was trying to get. Which is correct.

We're trying to get weighed around. That leader's gone. Yeah, I know. But, I mean, now, it's just, it's like, whoa. I'm confused. It just gets all mess. When you throw that many things in at one time, you know, you're in the middle of a cycle. You know, the yellow comes out.

You got guys that are frozen on pit road. You got guys that are still passing on the track. When it was all over said and done, this scenario is what put Jimmy in a position to win the race. And confusing for me, too, he comes off a turn two. He's out of gas. He's sitting dead stop. He becomes, to me, the last car on the lead lap. Then it's like, well, wait, he's going to get him.

lap. All of a sudden he gets his car fired up. We got to restart the race. He's sitting third or fourth. And I'm like, how does this guy get back up there? Yeah, because he was still on the lead lap. Yeah, he should have been behind Matt and all them guy. Like, you're just like, what? What's Clint saying during all this? Oh, my God.

Is he just funny as hell or just fired up? Oh, he's got all the, he's got a whole thing solved. I wish we could call him right now. He had the whole thing solved from 28th. He could figure he knew where everybody was supposed to go. The only thing I didn't really agree with was the 13 and 41. Yeah. They were a lap down in front of all.

They were two laps down in front of all of us. Yeah. You know, how do they get there? Yeah. You have two rows of. Well, you were the waiver round and weren't supposed to be. No, I was a lucky dog. That's what I'm saying.

I'm saying, yeah, I meant the lucky dog. Yeah, dude, it was so confusing. And then the funniest part, I know we need to move on, but the funniest part is they give one to go. Trevor Bain and Kyle Larson are behind the leader. They're not wave around eligible, and they just start hauling ass. Like, they should have parked the black flag of those guys for five laps because they, Yeah, then they screwed it up again.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Then it got... That's what I'm saying. The drivers weren't helping NASCAR at all. They were just doing what they thought they should do, wanted to do themselves. Yeah. Why weren't they listening to you?

They were doing... This is how drivers are. This is how they are. They're in there by themselves with a helmet on. They're hot. They're not listening to us. And I'm not going to lie. Sometimes the spotters are like, well, go on.

The crew cheese telling you, get up there by that car, so the driver will take off. Yeah. And then you're like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. Come back. And then you got to argue. You can't see anything. And then they're all of a sudden experts.

Hey, Wilford Brimley's out there. Just kidding. Spot on, spot off. 500 laps, five cautions at Martinsville this weekend. I mean, I like it when it plays out like this. I'll go spot on, even though it wasn't very exciting. I go spot off just because only one guy wrecked all weekend. And that got wrecked twice, Ricky Stenhouse.

I mean, when you look at, you know, three hours of practice, qualifying 500 laps of rest of. racing and only one car wrecks? What the fuck? This is a short track. I mean, at the Cup Series, it shouldn't be a demolition derby, but we should certainly see guys wrecking. Yeah, I saw plenty of opportunity,

but I thought guys drove actually just a good race. You know, there was definitely contact and stuff, so I don't know. Spot on, spot off. Chuck Norris is going to intro the drivers at Texas. He's going to kick their ass. Yeah. Literally? Yeah.

I love Chuck Norris. That's, how old is he 108? He's like 78 years old. He's really old. Does he look good still? Does he still look like Chuck Morris good? Yeah, he's hot. There's so many Chuck Norris jokes.

Oh, it's great. Yeah. Like, you know, who does Michael Myers check his closet for at night? Chuck Norris. Yeah. You know, where was the movie Anaconda filmed? Chuck Norris's pants. I mean.

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I'm going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate, and I'm going to alternate who responds first, and each of them will get 30 seconds to voice their opinion, and then whoever answered first gets a 30 second rebuttal to go after the other one. Y'all ready, TJ, you're going first. Yeah. What is the biggest advantage to the 48 has after winning Martinsville? The biggest advantage is they're in, they're racing a homestead for a championship already. We go to Texas and Phoenix, and they can, you know,

I don't think they're going to play it. They can go in there carefree. They can go in there and swing for the fence, try to keep somebody else knocked out. You know what I mean? They can go in there and make it as hard on anybody as they want to. I think there's two big advantages. One, I think if they can win the race this weekend at Texas, they kick another Toyota out, which is a big deal. But in hindsight of that, the second one is they don't have to take their best downforce car.

They can save their best mile and a half car for homestead. So instead of taking it to Texas and having to get points and having to, try to win. They can save it, go back to the wind tunnel, and get it ready for the championship. And possibly even go to Texas with an experimental, you know, mile and a half experimental type deal and try some stuff there and apply it at Homestead as well. They can kind of start with a left field setup or something and see if it runs, see if it works. What drivers are already in must-win situations, Brett?

Man, there's already three of them. There's no way that Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick and Kurt Busch get in on points unless something crazy happens to, you know, the other guys that didn't win this weekend. So I think all three of those guys are in must-win situations. Yeah, you know, and yeah, definitely for sure. Those guys are in trouble right here. And especially, like, Carl, Carl, Carl hasn't been strong all year. The other three Gibbs cars have been pretty strong. Carl, he shows up about once every month and a half and then he's gone again for a while.

And that's not really a championship type caliber. Going back to what we just said about Jimmy, the exact opposite for these three guys, they have to bring the best car in their shop to try and win this race. Because if they don't win, then they go to Phoenix in the same scenario. Will Jimmy Johnson win number seven and tie the late Great Dale Earnhardt, Sr.? You know, it's hard to bet against Jimmy, man. He's been in pressure situations before and he comes through in it. So, you know, I think it would be pretty awesome if he did it.

I don't think we can answer this yet. You know, will he win number seven? We don't know who he's racing against. We don't know who the other three guys are yet. Can he win number seven? Absolutely. I really feel like this guy is the best to ever drive a stock car. He's won in two or three different style of cars.

He's one in two or three different style of formats. The reason the chase is the way it is now, was a Jimmy Johnson rule to make him stop winning all these championships. Yeah, Jimmy's definitely, you know, what he's accomplished against the talent that we have in the sport, you know, in the last 10 years or so is pretty amazing. And he's been a, you know, he's been a role model the whole time as well. Jimmy's never in altercations and stuff. Wednesday night's World Series game was moved up an hour due to impending weather.

NASCAR said that they would consider moving race start times up. up in 2017. Do you actually think this is going to happen, Brett? I hope there's a threat of rain every Sunday. This is the first I heard about this. Yeah. Man, NASCAR, I don't understand how you can do it with a live TV aspect, but I certainly hope it will happen.

I don't, man, I'm all for this. Spot on NASCAR. Yeah, I mean, you know, you've got people that are actually at the racetrack still that deserve to see a race. it can't 100% be all about TV. You've got to cater to the people that put the effort in and come and want to see it in person and stuff. So I think that's pretty awesome to even consider it.

Yeah, I go back to this year, I guess, now that I've had five seconds together, my thoughts. Like, they made a lot of really good calls NASCAR did this year on weather. Yeah, really good. Maybe this is a sign of evolution, right? And we're just going to keep getting better in terms of our weather plans. Off the wall, Topic.

What is the greatest, scariest, or most ridiculous costume you have ever worn for Halloween? You know, I don't, I've never really, I've never really dressed up. I've never really dressed up much for Halloween. I went as a pregnant nun one year. What the heck? Yeah, I went to, Jamie McMurray had this huge Halloween party at his house, and I dressed up with a wig and the whole deal of pregnant nun, and I got a picture made like this. So it was awesome. Would you have stuffed under there?

I can't tell you. So you don't, TJ, you don't dress up. I don't think I've really ever... Dude, it's fun. I know, but I've never really... I mean, the last six years I've spent, you know, going trick-or-treating. You know, so... Yeah, I'm going to call out somebody.

You ever dress up with your kids? Like a theme? No, I really have none. I had to be a minion. That was not fun. The funniest thing of that party, though, was Matt Kenseth came as Bill Clinton. and Katie, his wife, came as Monica. That's hilarious.

And they were in character all night. Are you serious? Oh, my God, it was four hours of fun. What about you? What's the funniest thing or craziest thing you've done? I'm a boring Halloween costume person. You don't look like a boring person at all. One that really upset me, though, was when I was younger.

My mom dressed me up as a crayon. Yeah? I think that stuck with me, so I don't dress up a lot. It just scarred you? Peg Bundy. I was Peg Bundy in college. Josh, Gamecock? Is that what you're going at?

No. When it was umpalupa one time in college What is that? That's like, best of the little guys and Willie Wong in the Chocolate Factory Oh, that's the little people. How'd that go? It went pretty good.

Yeah, it worked. What does work mean? You got a design work. What does work mean? Get the ladies. Yeah, I got lucky that night. Hala. You got on a Gamecock hat.

All right, hashtag AskDBC. So producer Josh has chosen a few questions off the internet to ask the gents. At Andrew Boozer asks with Jeff and Tony Dunn. Who is the next NASCAR start to retire? T.J. Majors. Retired. Done.

I'm out. Who you got? Man, it's got to be with Jeff Dunn and Tony Dunn. There's six or seven of them. Yeah, there's a group of guys that are all around the same age. You know, you got Jimmy, Kevin, Greg. Dale Jr., Matt, a whole bunch of them are within a couple years of each other. And, you know, I would say be part of that group.

Yeah. I mean, you just, based on age, you say Biffle, right? I mean, it's 46. Yeah. So you've got to ask yourself, man, how much longer does he want to do it? Can he do it? A lot of rumors speculating on whether or not Rouse will field three full-time teams next year or two full-time teams. A lot of question is to whether or not if that happens, Biffle will go to JTG in a second car.

or if he may, you know, hang up his helmet. So I got to say my number one guy would be biffle if I had to, you know, pick one. But T.J. was spot on with a group he named. At Rob Sports asked, what driver currently in the Cup series could you see starting his or own team like Tony did in 2009? I don't see any of them doing it after, you know, I think Jeff's too. It's such a money pit. Jeff's too involved with, you know, he's two in with Hendrick and stuff. And he's already, he's already, doesn't he, isn't he part owner of the 48?

Yes. Yeah, okay, so, I mean, he's already an owner. I think Biffle has too many other interests outside of racing, like the Doom Buggie stuff, and he likes to go off and do stuff like that, and I think that will occupy his time. I don't know. I mean, I can see some of these guys maybe doing something part-time, but I don't know if any of them are going to get into the full, you know, blown own race team type deal.

When you look at what it takes to be successful in the country, Cup series. It's not a guy coming in and just starting at the cup level. It's Rusty Wallace who owned, you know, an Xfinity team. Kevin Harvick that owned an Xfinity team going backwards. Del Jared owned Xfinity teams. If they can't make that model work at the Xfinity level, they can't make it work at the Cup level. You look at Junior Motorsports. I know Del Jr. said he don't want to be a cup owner, but the Stuart Haas thing going to Ford, Del Jr. being a big staple in Xfinity series now with what he's got for sponsors, what he's got for drivers. I hope he's a guy to be a cup owner because when you take someone of his status when he decides to tj's point to retire

we don't need him to go away the sport doesn't we need him to stick around what what this question doesn't speak to though is the commitment it requires to be a cup owner it's a lot of hours a lot of stress a lot of responsibility we got over 150 employees here at junior motorsports hendrick has over 550 michael waltrow racing just let over 250 go last year when they shut their doors so it's a big step on a responsibility ladder to want to be a cup series owner at jestein 234s what's the worst candy to give on Halloween hmm fruit pencils and erasers I don't like licorice who likes that especially black licorice yeah I'm not a huge liquorish fan either I'd really lick a gick that's terrible you don't like Twizzlers so if I bring a goat and a bag of licorice next week

If a gun was to my head and I said, which one are you going to do? I'd be like, those most disturbing sound I've ever heard. Oh, my God. I don't like licorice. Well, don't do that. The mental image that I have right now is really bad. It's stuck in my brain.

Oh, wow. At Brad Keshez, too fan ass. Want to know your opinion on the Gibbs strategy. I get it's within the rules but seems pretty unsportsman-like to me. I think it's like, I think it's like licking a goat. Going back to the professional bipolar version of Brett, I'm just going to say this. I really hate it for their fans because I'm a sports fan. I'm really happy the Gamecocks beat the Bolls this weekend.

If our team had laid down and let them run down the field at the end of the game and lost the game, I would have been very upset. So if I'm buying a ticket and I'm investing thousands of dollars to come to this race to watch, my guy race to watch Kyle Busch race, Matt Kenseth race, and then I get there and I don't feel like they're giving it they're all. Man, I'm heartbroken, so I hate it for their fans. Yeah, I don't think it's, you know, you got, so I walk in, you walk down, you know, we go down through the stands sometimes before or after races and you see these, all these fans. You see these kids with, you know, 18 hats on, 20 hat, you know, and they're there because they want to go back and tell their friends, man, my driver whooped you today.

You know, they don't, you don't, and I know they're all going to. I say, well, we're just racing for a championship. I mean, I want the guy that wins the races and then continues on and still goes and fights for a championship, too. You know, I like a guy that's there fighting every week. You know, if you, like you said, I kind of feel like it'll backfire eventually. I feel like the guys that are up front making it happen or the guys are going to be ready and the guys are going to move on. They ran pre-vent defense at Talladega. That's how you lose games.

We've seen a lot of teams lose games, you know, doing that. And this weekend. Chargers. They were up front, but they certainly had a strategy, you know, and it was to bench the starting quarterback in the fourth quarter to make sure you don't get hurt. Like their strategy is working for the big picture. Well, Teledega, they didn't even play the quarterback.

No. No, they sat him. Totally sad. They played a punner at quarterback. It's strategy. I get it, you know. I don't think it's unsportsman-like to this guy's question, but I think just for their fans, it sucks.

It was great for their company, like, internally, like, their company themselves, but it was terrible for the fans. Yeah. At GoDox 88 underscore Mick asks, do you have a race on your bucket list you haven't been to? I'm assuming this is outside of this series. Yeah, it would have to be. Yeah, because you've been to all of them. Multiple times.

I would still like to go to the Chili Bowl one year. I'd like to go to the Chili Bowl, and I'd like to go to Knoxville Nationals. Who is she growling at? Chili Bowl is phenomenal. I went last year with Mike Herman. He spots for Ricky Stenhouse. Harmon. Mike Herman, not Harmon.

And it's a party, man. It's awesome racing. Would you go with Mike Harmon? Yeah. Room together? Yeah, we'd go to the buffet. Give us a tufer. Maybe get some goat.

Man, Chili Bowl definitely needs to build everybody's bucket list. It's a race fan. I want to go to Knoxville Nationals? I haven't been there. Josh, you want to go with us? No, I've been there multiple times. I'm good. I don't need to go to Knoxville.

I've heard it's really fun. If you're not working. Yeah, if you're not working. I guess it would be. Well, I'm not going to go work. Well, I had to work, so it was not fun. Could you imagine if Mike Harmon put a goat costume on? I got a graphics girl works for us.

Oh, man. It'll get Courtney, not to mock that up. Oh, so do you guys have anything you want to rant about? Did you pick anybody last week? I didn't have to. I'd already won. You weren't here when we... You weren't here.

Garbage talking about you. Oh, did I lose that? one? Yeah. Oh, I lost it in the dog legs. What I lost at the tri-oval. Yeah, he lost. I wasn't going to lose. Wait, you need to congratulate him. The season is over. Not really, because I'm still in the championship hunt. You're not. What championship hunt? Who we all picked. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You are. I'm out. You've got. I have Danny. Kevin. Kevin. How stupid are we? None of us pick Jimmy.

Yeah. Well, those guys are peeking at the right time, man. Did you need hot dogs? No, you? No, I don't know. I was looking for goat. Yeah. Have you ever had them? Yes, I've had a lot of them. When they switch vendors from the Jesse James hot dog,

I threw my hands up in the air and said, I'm out because my loyalty was to the experience in that particular hot dog. And when you change a Martinsville hot dog, I'm done with you. I'm sorry. I don't know anyone that has that strong of you about hot dogs. They're definitely not the same. Who's the new vendor? Who can't?

It's not the Martin'sville hot dog anymore. Probably it's Smithfield. Two years ago. Yeah. I think it's Smithfield because of the sponsorship. So do you, so was it flavor or shape that you would go for? The bright pink. That's what I liked.

Any more spotter silly season? Driver. There's a lot of spotter silly season going on. There's a lot going on. Can we talk about it? I mean, I don't know. I'm not going to say names. I think we can say the guys who are vacating spots because they've told their teams, right?

I don't know. retiring? Are they going to different places? They're moving. They're moving over. Yeah. So we're going to see. Last year we saw 11 spotter changes. We won't see anything that large this year, but we'll see five or six. We've already seen three in the trucks. Yeah. All the guys from Ohio there, they got rid of all the

regulars and put other guys and they already had a shout out of. They fired Hamlin. Fire Kevin. Fired two other guys too. And they fired Ron, I think, off to 13. They did. And then they brought in, they brought another in-house guy. and he already got an argument with a guy this weekend up there. Really?

And this guy's already spotted before, and he realized that it wasn't the best. Now he's back up there doing it. And the funny part is, is, you know, and Kevin's defense, it's the same results. The last two races have been a new guy,

and they've done nothing but, you know, wreck. Yeah. Well, so that's obviously not the problem. I mean, you bring in a guy, Tracy Hines has taken the spot, who is a phenomenal open-wheel race car driver. He's taking the spot. Midget driver, really awesome.

of one of our, you know, cup guys. And I just don't know how much he's going to be able to really help Rico. You know, that's the whole thing. Here was the thing. We're going to fire you. We want you to quit. We're going to bring in Tracy Hines. But we want you to stick around and do Talladega because he's not ready for that.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. To Kevin Hamlin's praise, he was like, no, if you don't want me to come back, I'm not coming back starting now. The other guy, Derek was kissing Rico's ass and came back, like, just to be nice to Rico. But, no, I wouldn't have stuck around for that either. I'm on Kevin Hamlet's side with his approach to that. Yeah, I am too. I mean, you don't want me, but you want me here.

Yeah. We'll put your superstar in there then. Yeah, the superstar you got coming. Let him do this Taladaiga plate race. If he's going to be ready for this, you know, he's only got four more race for Talladega's up anyway. So let him get ready right here. Let him get ready for Daytona. Yeah, Daytona's coming back up.

Yeah. So, but there's going to be a lot of, uh, there's a couple new teams probably forming, a couple teams going away. Well, there's three or four cup teams that appear to be maybe going away. And there's obviously one or two or maybe three cup teams that are coming. You know, we know Eric Jones is coming. Rumor JTG starting a second team. Remember the 95 car is looking at starting a second team, certainly not done.

So we need all the teams we can get. Charger system has put the race to 40 on. And it's complicated. It's kind of like that restart. Man, they get a little bit lower. We might be able to start and park. Yeah. Yeah.

What do you think you could run a cup team for? right now money wise if you had to i don't know man i don't even know i mean you're talking about what do you think the top teams are getting like what do you think the biggest budgets are right now on the cup side per car i would say anywhere the top teams probably maybe 13 to 15 i don't know i'm guessing the rule of thumb is 12 million dollars plus your engine bill plus your driver's salary Wow. So you're talking, top teams are 25 million plus. You know, I saw a tweet that asked, you know, why we know all these other sports figure salaries.

Why do we not know the NASCAR driver salaries? You know what, man, I told somebody like this this weekend. I almost feel like it was ironic that this is the first year we don't know the driver earnings in a race. And I feel like that's because this series sponsorship was up for. sale. You know, with Sprint being in place for 10 years plus and sinking all that money into the sport, a lot of that money goes into the point fund and these purses and whatnot. So now that number is up for debate. But you can always look back at every other years. I mean, yeah. Well, you can, but my point is going forward if that Sprint sponsorship and if that replacing

sponsor isn't as strong as Sprint, our numbers could trend down. And I don't think we wanted that perception. I'm not saying that's the answer. I'm just saying I think it's ironic that all of a sudden and we said hey, the whole RTA thing happened, we're going to not post earnings anymore. Well, LPGA still does and their purses are still bigger than ours. Yeah, we still know what. Really? We know what people get for, like football players. We know if they make Super Bowl, they get a certain bonus. We know all that. Yeah, you go back and look at, and the exception is the Daytona 500 because that's a gigantic purse. But if you go back and look at history, look at LPGA purses and look at our purses and their purses are bigger than ours.

And just think that's a golfer with a set of golf clubs. You know, what about like, uh, it's crazy? What about like, uh, you know, how come we don't know, like, the guys length of contracts and their salaries? Like, you know what I mean? Like, how come we know we can go up there, look at NBA, you can get on that? They all have players unions and players associations. And we, we have a driver's counsel, which really isn't anything remotely close to what

those guys have. So it's more open knowledge. And here's the good thing about when you see what an NFL guy makes is it sets the market value. You know, some of those guys are certainly overpaid. But if I find out TJ's making a million dollars a year to spot the 88 and I'm going to do the 24 car, I know I want a million dollars a year, right? Because it's public. So I think there's some advantages and disadvantages to it for every side, you know.

There's definitely the driver's advantage. I think it's, like you said, there's pluses and minuses of. both, I think. There's four things these guys do to make money, the drivers. Okay, they have a salary from the team. It's a retainer. They're an independent contractor. They don't work for the team, right? They own a business that provides a driver. Then they get a percentage of the purse. Okay. Then they get their licensing money, which is a percentage of licensing. Then they get their endorsement money. So that's their four revenue streams. The greatest one is usually the salary. The second greatest is usually the winnings. The third greatest is T-shirts,

unless you're Doe Jr. Who sells millions of millions. God bless them. We love them with death. And then the fourth piece is that endorsement deal. Your endorsement deal is realistically only going to the top 15, 18 guys nowadays. It used to be everybody had them. You know, now it's gotten harder.

So, man, I'd love to see our numbers release because I do think it would help the market, you know. But I also think some of these rules that are coming down the pipe are going to be pressing the reset button on what these drivers make to, because when these older guys exit and these younger guys like Blaney and Larson, if they're redoing their contracts and they don't have good guys doing them, the market's getting ready to, for those guys, you'll hear the bottom going out of it. How's that going on it? There's too many noises going on this.

How's that lit go? This episode. No, no. Gosh. Oh. Is this one? I mean, I can have nightmares. Oh, man.

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