Door Bumper Clear - 42 - White Flag, One To Go
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Outside, door, bumper, clear of the 18th.
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You're going to do it.
You're going to win it.
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You're clear.
Check the flag.
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Door, bumper, clear is on.
Hey, everybody.
It's T.J. Majors.
Spiter the 88 cup car, the 7xfinity car, and the 29 pickup truck.
Brett Griffin, Spiter, Elliot Sadler, Clint Boyer.
We are minus our wonderful co-host KB this morning.
Josh, producer Josh, Amish Josh, is filling in.
Hey, guys.
He's back.
He wears about as much jewelry as, Kristen.
Look at his hand.
Blinged up.
Oh, man.
One ring.
What is that?
It's my college ring.
College round ago was that?
2008.
9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14.
Br, it's time to take it off.
No.
I don't even know where mine's at.
Yeah, we got to do something about that.
Yeah.
Oh, you guys have wedding rings.
I don't have one.
Exactly.
I don't wear that either.
Is that your wedding ring?
I don't wear that either.
I don't like jewelry.
I bought this damn runner watch to keep up with my steps and my miles.
It's huge, man.
I know, but it's got a building heart rate monitor.
Start calling you Flava Brett.
Yeah.
I'm going to take it around my neck.
You know?
I mean, that thing's gigantic.
Heck, yeah, man.
Just get you an eye watch.
I mean, you know.
Dude, you had an interesting couple, three races.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Come on, man.
Talk to me.
Yeah.
You know, it started off.
Truck race was just, okay.
We were just okay.
Yeah.
Pretty uneventful truck race.
It's Finney race.
I thought Justin drove a great race.
He did about as good as you could.
Where do he actually end up?
We started saving fuel.
We could have ran second.
easily right there.
I think we ended up fourth.
Fourth.
That's all right,
right, Josh.
Yeah.
Sounds right.
Yeah, but we were just to be safe.
Yeah.
And we knew we had the positions to give up,
and we still had like seven,
six seconds on the guy we had to beat.
Yeah.
We just started saving to make sure.
And, you know,
what if there was a green white check or something?
We wanted to be sure for all that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought Justin drove a really good race.
We even passed Kyle on a restart there.
Yeah.
And then we get down to turn one.
He just straight up runs into the back.
Did he really?
He moved you?
Oh, moved us.
He cleared.
He should have turned her head on in the wall.
Yeah, well, so that, um, so in the cup race, we were running down, you know, we're
trying to run down to leader and I went down to Tony and I was like, look, you know,
I'm going to make sure he doesn't waste any time on you.
I know you're running for a championship, but we are too in the East Fendi car and Kyle
wasted no time running right into us going down in a turn one.
I mean, he literally drove right in there until he hit us because we cleared him on the
outside and three and four.
Right, right.
Well, I heard new leader of the seven.
And then the next thing I know is new leader 18.
Oh, yeah, we got sent up the racetrack in turn one.
That's real nice.
Yeah.
So I made sure that, and, you know, he's like, why?
I'm like, well, Kyle, we're going to race Kyle.
Like Kyle races.
We're running for a championship Xfinity car.
And Kyle just, I mean, I know Kyle is good enough to drive in there and do that, but why?
You don't have to move somebody.
That car, I mean, he didn't have to move anybody.
So I made sure, you know, it's just not, I just don't think that's a very good way to race.
But the car.
Cup race was exciting.
Sunday I thought you had a win coming, man.
Yeah, we had a good car, man.
Why'd you wreck the 20?
Alex showed a great race.
He, you know, he, there was times when I was, I was looking for a weakness
because that was really a dominant car and I was waiting.
You know, it wasn't dominant, dominant, but it was fast.
Right.
And I was waiting to find a weakness of Alex's, you know,
because we were going to be around really fast cars.
Yeah.
with a lot on the line.
A lot on the line.
And, you know, honestly, I thought he,
I don't think he could have drove any better.
Those guys, we needed us a little bit in the short run,
but even if we were leading, we could hold him off.
Yeah.
So.
I was pulling for him to win, not for him.
Because nothing against him, I just don't know him that well.
I was pulling for him to win for you guys and for nationwide.
Because you look at what you guys have been on for a roller coaster.
Oh, it's been a open to hell.
Because of multiple drivers.
I mean, man, it's hard.
to do that and keep everybody in sync and keep morale and keep everybody pulling in the same
direction. So when you see Alex Bowman leading the race, literally dominating the race, you know,
hey, we're all pulling in the same direction. And that's a big statement given what you guys
have been up against this year. Yeah, it's really, it's trying on the team because, you know,
when you have your top driver go out and you've got to bring in some other guys, you know, even though
they were great, jazz, it's still, you're just, you're breaking your routine a little bit, and it just
stows it off a little and it is challenging.
Yeah.
We had a crazy, Josh, this is where you can either take it in or out.
Josh, not Josh.
Josh.
Man, we had a crazy race Saturday, so we knew ultimately Elliot had to run top 16, top 17.
He's locked in the race, so that's exactly what we did.
And I'll tell you one of the reasons we did it, we saw William Byron dominate the truck race
and have a motor failure and ultimately not transfer in.
and then in the middle of our Xfinity race,
we're sitting there top six
and the 88 car goes flying by us.
He cuts a tire, he goes and hits the wall.
And at that point, I think Elliot decided mentally,
man, I'm done.
I'm not putting myself in any position.
And then we end up finishing exactly where we need to finish,
get transferred.
Dude, I'm halfway back to the hotel.
My phone starts blowing up.
Lug nuts are off.
Lug nuts are off.
And I'm like, well, how many?
Everybody's like, one, two, one, two, one, two.
I'm like, oh, I try to turn around.
The cop says, you can't turn around and go back.
to the tracks, sir, all the traffic's outbound.
So I was like, Josh, Kristen, Elliot,
somebody tell me what's going on.
But, man, I say kudos of NASCAR for making an expedited call
that had a lot of effects on the championship.
They found two lug nuts loose.
They issued the penalty right then and there,
and boom, we all go racing in Homestead like we're supposed to.
Yeah, I thought it was good to call it how it was,
no matter who it is.
If it happens, it happens, and you're, you know,
you're done with it after that.
Yeah.
You don't have to sit there and I know they'll talk about it this week on the shows and stuff,
but you don't have to sit there and wonder and wait or see what they're going to do and all this stuff.
So I think it'll be good for them to do that.
Biggest question for us as a company is who's going to be our crew chief.
And I'm not concerned about that because of the depth that we have here at J.R.M.
And the depth that we have at Hendrick Motorsports, like, man, I'm just as confident that we can win this championship,
no matter who the cruise chief is.
We've got fast cars.
You can win the championship.
We're one half of the Xfinity championship opportunity as we can.
Yeah.
Honestly, when I heard it, I wasn't really worried about who was going to do it either.
I know those guys all work really tightly with each other,
and I know they'll fill it pretty easily.
My biggest question was, you know, if you know there,
you almost know as a changer if there's too loose.
Yeah.
You know, and I feel like you could have got back to where you were at pretty easily.
Well, we took four and everybody else took two.
The theory is kind of internally as maybe we had a gun that had a mechanical issue because on film this guy hit all the nuts.
Okay.
You know, and we all know mechanical failure is a part of our sport.
Yeah.
So we don't think it was human error in this type of.
I didn't know.
I didn't know what the camera showed on.
I didn't know if it was questionable and you wrote it out.
But, yeah, you can't.
There ain't nothing you can do about that.
It's like that tire failure.
You know what happened with that, right?
No.
What happened?
I heard a lug nut and knocked the valve stem off.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
You just never know, man, little things.
I'm not a percent sure on now.
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Yes.
That whole segment, too.
That whole segment got a fresh coat of paint there, didn't it?
Didn't it?
Josh did it up big.
Fresh coat of paint.
All right.
Moving into spot on, spot off.
Spot on, spot off.
Why is Donald Trump not on here?
Because we don't talk about politics.
Yeah, but he's our new president.
How can we not address we have a new president in the United States?
There you go.
We have a new president.
It is the president.
I mean, we should probably, we're not like talking about whether, you know, two people,
which one should win.
We actually know which one it is.
Yeah.
All right.
So we just talked about it.
He's the president.
Make door bump up clear great again.
That's what we're doing right now.
Yeah, Josh, stop holding us back.
Sorry, T.J.
That I'm holding us back.
Jeez.
This house is a effing prison.
All right, spot on, spot off.
Harvick calls Dylan, but gets left hanging.
I don't know.
What do you think?
Go ahead.
I mean, spot on for Dylan, man.
He's mad.
You know?
Yeah.
Probably doesn't want to say something he may not, may regret later or, you know,
may want to keep hard.
Maybe try to get in Harvey's head a little bit.
Harvick's a guy that tries to get in people's heads.
So maybe Dylan's taking the play out of his own playbook.
Yeah, I thought, I'll go spot on because that does, you're not,
instead of having things smoothed over by, then he had to still think about it.
Yeah.
So, you know, and everybody pretty much handed Kevin the trophy before we got there,
and then we get there, and I'm not even sure he was much of a factor of the whole race.
Not until the very end.
And not even then, he was just time taking advantage of attrition at that point.
You know, he wasn't like the guy busing up through there like he normally is.
So, yeah, yeah.
All right, spot on, spot off, owners championship relevance.
Man, I'm spot off.
I'm over this whole two champions system.
Like, here's the thing about our sport.
It really matters to the driver to be a driver champion.
It matters to the organization to be an owner's champion because of the revenue associated with it.
We need to put this together, given the way we're trying to condense everything from a championship standpoint with the new chase formats and all these series.
It's confusing to the fans.
It's kind of confusing to me because we're in the middle of this Xfinity, you know, Chase Steel and Ellie's like, hey, how are we on the owner's championship?
We're four points to the good.
How are we on the driver's championship?
You're 11 points to the good.
We need one champion.
The word champion means one winner.
Let's do away with this owner's crap.
Yeah, or let's not talk about it.
You know, let's not post it or whatever and worry about it like that
because now it's taking away from the main deal.
When we show up at the banquet for the trucks and Exfinity in Miami,
we could potentially have four vehicles sitting there.
Two trucks, one owner, one driver, two Xfinity cars, one owner one driver.
Like, what?
Yeah, how is the champion's owner not the owner's champion?
You know what I mean?
How is he not the championship?
but I don't know.
Whatever.
It's confusing.
Goodbye owner's championship.
Yeah.
All right, spot on, spot off.
Monster Energy named finalist for Cup title sponsor,
the Monster Energy Cup.
Go ahead again.
This is big, man.
You know, I actually heard some rumblings about this a week or so ago.
And clearly we need an awesome sponsor,
which, you know, Monster is a great company.
a lot of youth. It concerns me because of the exclusivity part of it.
Right.
Because do you come in as a beverage company? Do you come in as an energy drink company?
Do you come in as a caffeine-related company?
Because what's happened in the past is whoever the series sponsor is,
they're an exclusive partner to the NASCAR Cup series.
So they have the ability to block anybody else from playing in those categories.
That makes me afraid.
The other thing that makes me afraid is they're a current team sponsor at Stuart Haas Racing.
What does it mean for that sponsorship?
You don't want to see the sanctioning body coming in and affecting the teams from a revenue standpoint.
So I certainly have some concerns as far as the brand itself goes.
I think this is an epic opportunity for our sport, but I do have some concerns.
We ultimately see this thing play out over the next two weeks.
It'll be big to see what happens there.
Grid girls?
What?
Grid girls?
Grid girls?
They're hot.
A monster.
Hey, we need Spotter Girls.
With umbrellas.
Yeah.
Bikinis.
Yeah.
Bikinis and fans.
Yeah.
You damn right.
I am mostly all for any sponsor,
although I don't like the fact that they'll sponsor it to run others off.
I don't think that's a good idea.
But we've already seen the Xfinity's already sponsored cars.
They've already had, you know,
we've already had the Xfinity series with.
with Accinity cars in it.
So I don't necessarily like that much either,
but if a sponsor can come in and take over the series
and leave it kind of how it is playing underneath it,
I'm all for it.
Here's the trouble.
Like you say, all right, we're Monster Energy.
We're coming in.
You guys are all Monster Energy.
You're racing for the Monster Energy Cup.
And then you go, what about Austin Dillon?
He's got a Coke deal.
He's not going to ever mention Monster Energy.
Like, there's a lot of moving parts and pieces here for this to work.
I think it can work.
It's just a question of what are they ultimately going to buy from NASCAR in terms of this category?
Yeah.
Do you get the rights to that?
Or, you know, I mean, I don't see how you can.
I mean, you can't have.
You can.
You got a three-year grandfather rule.
You can never.
So let's just theoretically say this.
Let's say they get the caffeine category.
And they say, okay, we're coming in.
We've got caffeine.
Eric Jones, congratulations.
You just signed five-hour energy.
You cannot move that sponsorship at any point.
your career. So if you leave and go to Gibbs, which we all know is a plan, guess what,
five hour you're locked in. Well, guess what five hour does? We go on. So it just comes down to what
are they going to get as part of this deal. It's confusing. You know, the fans, hopefully I'm not
confusing you guys. But there's a lot of moving parts and pieces when a company like this is
coming in. I don't think it should be allowed to stop other teams from getting
competitors and sponsors. I mean, obviously they're not getting the whole deal like they're not
paying for but yeah what they're concerned about though is when brad kuzlowski wins the sprint
cup championship his team has a Verizon sponsor on the indy side and he's kind of a nonchalant ass
about the sprint piece of it so NASCAR doesn't want a company to come in and i understand your point
dude i don't i'm not sure i think it's okay that they're taking a team sponsor elevating them you won't
have the main deal if you don't have all these little ones now so we've got to keep the teams
funded before we the the series is fine
The cars have to be on the train.
You have to have cars to race.
If you take cars away, we're going to start having problems.
Yes.
So I don't think it, you know, I don't think it needs to get to that level.
It's a tricky ground.
I mean, when Sprint came in, they, you know, they had played in the sport before.
They actually had sponsored Kyle Petty.
They came in and AT&T was here, and they said, okay, in T&T, you can stay,
but you can never rebrand and you can never leave.
You know?
So, I mean, it just is weird.
Yeah.
It'll work out.
All right, spot on, spot off.
passing the pace car penalties
TJ I haven't seen a paste car
I'm a series oh yeah
you know I gotta go
I gotta go spot off
it's real hard
it's real tricky
and I think it's just a knick-knack type deal
I mean he's not really
you're not gaining anything
you're not gaining ground
you are if you're the
you're the leader people are right on your tail
coming to pit road you're not gaining anything
it's a shorter radius
you have to adjust your speed to a lower speed
that you're not used to running.
I just don't think it's, I don't think it's worth calling.
Now, the whole deal, coming to pit road.
Pulling up the pit is different.
Pulling up to pit.
Pulling up to pit.
I have a problem with that.
That's not okay with me.
But, you know, as far as giving them a passing the pace car penalty to coming to pit road
because he was a half of calling the front of the pace car, I don't think that's, I mean,
I don't think that's worth messing with, but it happened.
It happened twice.
Happened to Truex and Jimmy Johnson, both who had super fast cars.
But Truex didn't get passing a pace car penalty.
He did.
He was actually right behind the pace car.
He was the first guy one lap down when it was open the second time by for him.
Yes.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
He got called for pulling up the pit also.
Yeah.
So, well, I'm talking like when he got that other penalty on pit road before,
he was actually speeding up on pit road.
which wasn't right that was a different he lost two laps in one time yeah yeah so that whole sequence
do you know how he got the lap down there he had just pitted when they spun the 42 wreck right
yeah they the when the 42 we were actually coming to pit road when that was going on and i saw the yellow
come on come out come out come out and we were actually turned down i told out it's come back out
and we did right we're kind of just cruising down the front stretch well we're racing the 78 and 24
them guys and out there leaving their stall in turn one yeah so i'm like allex we had really nothing
in front of us i'm like out hurry we need to speed up hustle yeah so we hustled down through there
and we beat them both to the start fit we beat them both to the pit outline which is significant
yeah we trapped them significant because if we don't they've already made their stop and they're
going to come out ahead of you ahead of me correct yeah so it was it kept us basically we came out we were
still a leader you trapped them yeah so um you know that was pretty big he came out and
And then I don't know why, for some reason, they always just, they did it in Martinsville, too, just kind of poor you think you are.
They just blew by the pace car and kept going.
Yeah. And I don't know, you know, they're going to, it makes it way harder for NASCAR when people do that.
And it makes them mad, obviously, too.
Yeah.
Like, if you have a problem, you go tell the official or whatever, and then they'll, they'll fix it.
They always, they always read the pit out stuff.
Right.
They always read that.
And it wasn't even close.
No.
So, you know, but you don't want to make them mad, obviously.
Yeah.
I mean, they got mad.
Yeah.
All right, spot on, spot off.
Brian Scott retiring.
Man, the word retiring just doesn't work for me here.
The word retiring to me means I'm an elder stakesman.
I've been really successful.
To me, it doesn't scream.
I'm a really rich 28-year-old kid that's tired of doing this and tired of sucking at this.
Like, I don't like the word retiring right here.
You know, they quit.
Yeah, it's hard to retire at that.
You know, the bad part, he's not health-related?
No, he's probably one of the nicest drivers in the garage, too,
if you've ever talked to him or hung out with him.
He's probably one of the nicest guys in there.
But, you know, this reminds me of Ricky Hendrick whenever he stepped down, you know,
but he stepped down and was like, look, he said, I can't do this anymore.
He's like, look, I'm taking up a seat here.
You know, what I think would have been cool was if somehow Brian could work it out to, you know, maybe staying in the sport.
Maybe he runs, maybe runs a K&N team.
I don't know.
You know, maybe he does something like that.
I mean, obviously, he's going to be, he's going to know the ins and outs of it already because he's being in the sport for a while.
Yeah.
I just don't like the word retiring used in the context of which he's exiting the sport.
Yeah, he's moving on.
Yeah, I'm moving on.
Which is kind of the way Ricky played this.
I'm moving on.
I'm going on to the business side of the sport.
Honestly, he might go and maybe he will be a successful archa team owner, successful.
He said he's going hunting, fishing, and camping.
He's starting a whole new chapter of his life of 28.
Yeah.
28, I was worried about how I was going to pay my power bill.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe he'll take over some business side of things there.
Where it's significant, I mean, in all seriousness,
where it's really significant to our sport is, you know,
Richard Petty has already been out of business twice, right?
He went out of business as Petty Enterprises.
He went out of business with the Gillettes as Richard Petty Motorsports.
Now he's, you know, successful to some degree two-car team.
Albertsons and these other Shore Lodge and these other sponsors affiliated with Brian Scott are going to leave.
So that race team, if a driver doesn't come in with $8, 9, 10, $12 million, it's going to shut down.
It's going to put the king back in jeopardy of going out of business for a third time.
If the king can't stay in business, wow.
We got problems.
We got model problems.
You can talk about RTA and you can talk about franchises or what are we calling these things these days?
Charters.
Charters.
Charters.
Sorry.
Like, that's almost about not to matter already.
And we're eight months into this thing.
Yeah, that's, yeah, you don't want to see teams like that go under.
You know, what I think they're missing there is.
If I was him, I would probably make a list of the upcoming free agent drivers,
and you've got to go get one, like one of the top five.
You know, you've got to go get one of them guys.
Yeah.
You bring a guy in there.
You bring a top five guy in there.
You're probably going to be able to sell sponsorship easier.
You're going to make your cars better.
And they really, they haven't really done that.
Yeah.
So, and I realize you've got to stay in business, but, you know, I think they need to go get somebody.
Yeah.
Let's take a quick break for one main financial.
We'll be right back.
So there's one thing I'm not going to apologize for.
I'm not going to apologize to be a hunter.
No.
Man, you're like my heroes.
That's right.
You get to hunt and then come on a radio show and talk about it.
Hey, everyone, this is Carrie Earnhardt.
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Right here on Dirtymoe Radio.
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All right, well, we're going to move into Fast Lane.
For those of you who don't know what Fast Lane is, I can't imagine there's too
many that don't know what Fastlane is by now,
but we're going to give each
Brett and TJ
a topic to discuss. They get 30 seconds,
and then whoever goes first, gets a
rebuttal. Okay,
starting off with TJ.
William Byron blew a motor on Friday
night in Phoenix after leading 112
of 138 laps.
He was the favorite to win the Camping World Truck Series
Championship this year. Does this show
that this format may not show who the best
of the best is?
No, I don't, I think it's part of it.
We have mechanical failures.
I mean, you can't have them.
Just because you have a successful year, you know, a lot of them guys, even back in the old point system,
if you went into Phoenix and had a motor problem, then you go to a homestead and you have a motor problem,
you're still going to lose it.
Yeah.
So it is what it is.
You've got to put a complete year together still.
Man, I felt like we had game seven moments in game six.
You know, I felt like we had a game seven moment in the truck race.
When Byron blew up, I felt like we had a game seven moments in the truck race.
I felt like we had a game seven moment with the lugnut issue with Elliot.
I felt like we had a game seven moment when Kenseth got wrecked.
And it's not even game seven yet.
So this format is so intense.
It's so great for our fans.
We just need to stay consistent and stop changing stuff.
Yeah, even this is the stuff that's going to happen.
Just because this happens doesn't mean you change it.
And it's part of it.
You know, great kid, great year.
Nothing to be ashamed of.
Nothing.
I mean, he's already approved.
He's already shown what he can do.
He can do it.
This championship is obviously not going to go in the record books as his name,
but he's going to be, they're going to know.
He was there.
People that needed to know, know what you saw this year, what the kid can do.
He's awesome.
All right.
The number 20, Rex late in the race and ends his championship hunt.
Who's at fault?
Man, unfortunately, there's only two people that you can put this on.
It's the guy holding the steering wheel for the 20 and the guy spotting for Matt.
And I'm a huge Matt Kenseth fan.
I'm a huge fan of crazy.
Unfortunately, they didn't work as well together as they should have.
This isn't as easy as it looks on TV.
It's not as easy as it looks in the stands.
We as spotters are in a really bad position at Phoenix International Raceway
just from our angles and where we stand.
Yeah, where we're at as well, it's not the normal.
They're coming at you head on, and it's a hard, it's a tough place,
especially on restarts.
But, you know, there's probably,
maybe we should talk about this again later.
There's probably four things that added up to make this happen and look like it did.
It's not just one guy saying clear way.
There's about four things that happened all at the perfect time for this to have that outcome.
And it's not just one guy saying clear, you know.
Maybe we'll get back into it a little bit.
I feel like the spotter probably threw a pick six on this deal.
Unfortunately, it was so late in the game.
He didn't have an opportunity to overcome it.
And our sport is so much different because if you throw a pick six in your time, Brady, in the first quarter,
you've got three quarters to come back and win.
When you throw a pick six in our sport and you tear up your race car, your day is done.
So crazy manned up.
He said he screwed up.
I've screwed up before.
I hate it for a man.
One of my favorite guys up there.
Hey, real quick.
Just from being up front all day, I'm not even sure why the leader would even come down.
Me?
I said that on the plane ride.
You don't have to be in a hurry to take that.
I would have ran the second groove.
Yeah.
I would have ran the second groove.
And we restarted in the second groove all day, and we beat him off turn two.
I don't even know why you would have came down and taken the risk of even getting hit.
You know when you come down that gap's going to close up.
Yeah.
I mean, and to my point of it's on these two guys, I mean, Matt has a left side mirror.
Matt has a rear rear rear rear rear.
Matt has a gas on a brake pedal.
And he was up in the top four to five all day.
He saw restarts up there.
To me, to me, that guy driving should have, you know, he could have made a better decision as well.
Yeah.
And ran up there.
I mean, you put yourself.
It's a weird part of our sport because you rarely hear a quarterback, you know, talk crap about a receiver after game.
Well, Josh, we lost because Josh dropped the touchdown pass.
But in our sport, it's like, well, I crashed because the spotter cleared me.
Like, they are not afraid to throw our asses under the bus.
And you know what?
That's the bad part, too, is these drivers, they make mistakes.
Yeah.
But we don't sit there.
You know, every time I see my driver make a mistake, I'm patting them on the back.
Picking them up.
picking them up.
Now, you know, it's a, it's bad, you know, when we get to these things and they are,
I don't know if I can't even remember whenever the last time I'm a driver right then the spot.
It was like, damn, nice job, dumbass.
Yeah, right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Why'd you do that?
Why'd you do that, you know?
Yeah.
You just spun out.
What the hell is your problem, man?
You know what I mean?
I mean, that would be, maybe we should start.
See how many of us can keep jobs.
I don't last long.
I don't, yeah.
See how many of us will keep jobs.
I mean, why?
Is it okay for the, why is it okay for the driver to make a mistake?
I mean, Spotter's lives matter.
Spotters, true, lives matter.
That's all it comes down.
Hashtag.
Why is it okay for a driver to make a mistake?
I feel you.
I'm glad you got fired up right there.
Yeah.
This is rant for the day.
Yeah, you're done.
Damn it, you dumb ass.
What are you doing?
I told you to slow down.
I mean, yeah, you speed on pit road.
What, I mean, really.
What an idiot.
I mean, I.
Speeding penalty.
What an idiot.
Yeah.
4,200.
Two lights.
Really, can you read numbers?
What's the problem?
Do we need something else?
I mean, we're both going to not be in Homestead.
All right.
JRM drivers, Elliot Sadler, and Justin Algar
will take on JGR drivers, Eric Jones and Daniel Suarez
for the Xfinity Series championship this weekend in Miami.
How aggressive should your strategy be,
and will you work together until the end?
You know, how it's playing out my mind is,
is Homestead normally has some long runs.
So that's going to play in our favor, I think.
too. We, you know, normally we, they take off faster, but we normally have long run and good
race speed. So I expect all through Prattis for the 19 and the 20 to be, be fast and we'll be
right in the ballpark there. But, you know, when the race starts, I think you just can't run
that pace the whole race most, you know, and you can't stand to have a problem. So I think,
I think it's going to be interesting. I think, you know, it's, I think we got a good shot at it.
I think this is a winner take-off format. You've got to really come out.
here swinging for the fence clearly you have to wait on the perfect pitch before you do
that you can't come out lap one and just do something really stupid but you've got to come out here
with a mentality of i need to qualify top five i need a good pit selection i need to run top five keep
track position all day and i need to drive my ass off yeah this is the one where if you're gonna
you don't let somebody hold you up you get to them you don't waste time i'm not you don't wreck them
but you just this is the you need to show people what you're there to do you're going to do you're
Yeah.
All right, the JGR cars and the Cup series have not been as strong during the chase as they have been all season.
In your opinion, can either Kyle or Carl beat the determination of Jimmy Johnson or the momentum of Joey Logano.
Right.
Yeah, valid point.
Their speed has certainly not been as high in the chase as it was prior to the chase.
If you look at Hendrick Motorsports at Phoenix, at one point in the race, they were running first, second, third, and seventh,
it is obvious to me that Jimmy Johnson is bringing his game.
the Hendrick is back on top of their game.
I got Jimmy Johnson winning this championship over these other three guys.
Yeah, I can't look at any one of these four and just pick out a single guy that's just going to go there and be, you know, that I think will be dominant.
I think Jimmy's obviously rolling here lately.
He's got it going and Jimmy's a dangerous guy when he gets momentum.
So I think it'd be hard to bet against him.
But look at Joey.
Joey hung around all day yesterday.
You know, he'd lead a little bit, he'd fall back, and he'd race smart.
And he actually would let people go.
He let us go and we run him down.
And I thought that was pretty mature.
Yeah, and that essentially set him up for a shot at winning the race at the end there.
But, yeah, I don't know.
You know, the weakest link to me is probably Carl.
Yeah.
But, hey, he's in the final four, so it should be good.
I'm pulling for Jimmy.
Yeah, me too, obviously.
All right, the off-the-wall topic, there have been some major upsets this year in the NFL.
Green Bay loses to Tennessee, the Seahawks beat the Patriots at home,
and Carolina can't seem to get their act together at all.
If you had to pick a Super Bowl champion right now, who would it be in Y? T.J.
I would probably pick, even though I hate them, the New England Patriots.
They've got some players, they've got their running back coming back still.
You know, it's hard to bet against guys.
You know, I know they already lost Seattle right there,
but it's hard.
Tom Brady is pretty hard to beat.
So it'd be hard to bet and pick against him.
America's team.
How about them cowboys?
Oh, my gosh.
I should have known.
Did you get your DAC to the Future shirt yet?
No.
Dack to the future.
Yeah.
I forgot Brett's a Cowboys fan.
I'm really not.
I just think they're a Cowboys fan.
I'm not anymore.
I don't like Jerry.
I don't like Roma.
When they trade him, I might go back.
Oh, my gosh.
That's not America's team either.
There's no red in their emblem.
It's red, white, and blue.
The Bills are America's team.
Wow.
And Tom Brady still sits to me.
That's a bold statement there.
The Bills or America's team is scary.
Have you seen our fans?
That's like saying Bernie Sanders is president.
Have you not seen the Bills fans?
That's how scary that statement is.
Have you seen the Bills fans?
Free college for everybody.
Unless you actually have a job.
you can pay for your kids' college and then your college is a freak.
What is wrong with, have you seen our fans?
How much better does it get?
Your fans are absurd.
They voted for Bernie's hands.
They are everything.
Our fans are everything what's good about tailgating.
They are wild tailgators.
I actually want to go to a game after the pictures that you and Doug Campbell have been exchanging all.
Oh, where'd you stop for fuel?
Tulsa?
No, we went to get Clint's dad in Emporia, Kansas.
So we stopped in Tulsa.
And there was a plethora of wild animal stuffed in this.
There's tons.
It's crazy.
I took some pictures of it for Doug.
Yeah.
There's more wild animal stuffed than that Tulsa airport.
Yeah.
It's insane.
Cheetahs, monkeys, baboons, I mean, everything.
There's a polar bear upstairs in a window.
I saw it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty crazy.
All right.
Well, we're going to move into hashtag SDBC.
I have chosen a few hashtag SDBC questions to ask the guys here today.
First up is at Beretta 3,000.
Ask biggest win of the year.
Bush are at Pocono or Pitt football at Death Valley?
Oh, there's no question.
Pit football.
Clemson sucks.
Deshaun Watson is awesome as a quarterback.
Clemson sucks.
Never wear orange.
Sorry, Josh.
I don't find, you know,
if that race was won by speed or whatever,
you know, if we went back green,
he held some people off for a green-white check or something,
I'd say that'd be big.
But, I mean, staying out and never going back racing again is not really considered to me as a big win.
It's not really a statement.
Great win.
You call the strategy right.
Yeah.
But it's not really, you know, not crazy.
KB's not here.
Go pit.
All right.
At R. Smith 168 asks, who are some young drivers who have the whole package to keep an eye out over the next few seasons across all three series?
You know, we're a lot of upcomers.
Obviously, we've added two to the Cup series that are going to be there for a long time this year.
Probably three with Busher.
You know, Busher gets in a better car.
He's going to be pretty good.
He's rumored to go to the second edge ATG car to be AJ Amendinger's teammate.
That's kind of a hot rumor right now.
Yeah, that would be a little bit better.
But through all three series, obviously the Xfinney series has some upcoming talent too.
You know, and the trucks has a bunch of them.
right now. I mean, you got Christopher Bell, you got Reddick, you got a bunch of guys coming up through.
Hemrick's moving to the Finney Series. So I'm hoping that we keep taking kids winning in lower
series in ARCA and K&N and moving them into the truck series like it's moving right now because
we got a pretty decent size youth movement coming up through. So I think this William Byron kid is
is going to be awesome. I mean, he's he's hit the perfect career path. You know, he was in
the fastest trucks, which right now are Toyota.
He's coming to one of the top two organizations in Xfinity, which is Junior Motorsports.
His mentor guy just so happens to be a pretty successful person in Rick Hendrick.
So it's almost like you say, hey, this kid is being tabbed to take somebody's place at
Hendrick, and no matter who it is, he's going to be ready for it.
Yeah, he, it's amazing how much he looks like Ricky Hendrick.
Yeah, that is.
I never even noticed that, but yeah.
It's crazy.
He handled the other night exceptionally well, I thought.
Which is amazing.
Yeah.
We watch Eric Jones flubbed these opportunities.
That was Eric Jones.
I can't eat.
We would have to swim out of there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, but he, that's how you want people to handle them situations.
You know, that was, I mean, I don't know how to even tell.
And that's a kid.
A kid.
That's a kid handling that scenario like that, you know.
And so it's awesome.
Yeah.
All right.
at K.Y. Catfish Billy.
K.Y. Catfish. It sounds weird.
Kentucky Catfish Billy.
Oh, I hope that's Kentucky.
I'm sure it's Kentucky.
The state, not the lube.
Yeah, let's hope.
If none of the four chase drivers went at Homestead,
who else has the best chance to win there?
I mean, you think Truex,
but man, this guy can't get out of his own way lately.
Yeah, you know, this is going to be against the ball track,
and I think Alex has proved he can,
run up there pretty good, so I think he'll be a factor.
So what happens with this guy, man?
He's got in a fast car. He proves he can run up front.
What happens to Alex Bowman?
You know, I don't know.
Hopefully he is, you know, hopefully he's
showed enough owners or whatever.
You know, he's got the talent in a fast car, and he didn't,
he didn't mentally fold or anything.
He was put into a really, the situation he was put in there was not,
you know, he was put between, in a pack of wolves,
And, you know, something was going to happen.
I think, I don't think we go into turn one.
Even if we get the best restart of our lives,
I think we still have contact with somebody in our mirror.
Yeah.
I think that was going to happen no matter what.
It was on, that's the only chance that guy had at getting a victory or something
was to shuffle things up a little bit.
Not that he wanted to go in there and cause a huge wreck,
but I think he wanted to go into there.
And he knew the only chance he was going to have was to get things shuffled and get a run on somebody.
But, you know, I thought Alex Han,
everything really well and you know he does what do you think he does next what happens full-time
expedity gig full-time cup gig full-time cup gig like what happens to this guy you know i don't know i
just don't know of enough of enough openings you know maybe maybe now since some of these other deals
aren't all the way filled yet maybe now things it's an opportunity maybe they're back in there talking
like babe man what about this kid look we obviously if you put him in good equipment i mean you would
think that rick having the stewart hoss relationship severed at the end of this year which is only
now a week away.
You would think it opens up some resources for him to go get a new technical alliance partner
or slash be a vendor to one of those teams.
And to some degree, put Alex under contract and have them farmed out for a couple of years,
kind of like Raust did with Bush or this year.
Yeah, I don't think he'll let Alex leave the Hendrick, you know, banner.
You know, I think just, you know, because you don't really 100% know what's going to go on
with Dale Jr. yet.
Yeah.
We certainly all hope something good comes from that, but to your point, we don't know.
But Alex has been a great sub.
We also don't know how long Jimmy Johnson is going to run.
How much longer is he going to go?
I definitely think Alex is worth keeping around, you know, but they need to keep him running.
You can't just park a guy on a couch.
You know, he needs to be getting that experience every week.
I think I'd go to Richard Petty Motorsports and say, hey, you guys need to switch to Chevy, put them in the 44.
Let's find some sponsorship.
To T.J.'s point earlier, go get a young guy that proves he can drive.
keep digging here we go all right at jen olk asked what food are you most looking forward to at
thanksgiving that's a good question is mickleup ultra food category yes it is actually my mom's
chicken and dumplings and her dressing and i think that's three foods chicken dumplings and her
dressing oh it can't beat it best in america man i my mom actually makes a really good turkey
and uh i don't i don't know how but she does there's like
three different steps to it, but...
We need to know what the steps are.
Yeah, here's the deal.
I like a good old moist turkey.
Yeah, that's the thing.
So, we've tried.
But she doesn't know what the...
She does it by, like...
She doesn't know what the measurements are for anything.
And she's all on you a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
It's all that.
Yeah.
It's all just natural talent.
And it cooks overnight, too.
Like, she cooks, like, it's...
Does she, like, cook it for a little while and then cut the oven off and leave it, like,
cooking overnight without the oven on?
Because Claudia's grandmother used to do that.
Something like that.
It cooks all night, but it like a lower, she lowers it at some point.
Yeah.
Have you ever deep fried one?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, Tofer out here.
Yeah.
Well, we deep fried one at my house one time back when I lived out on the land.
But you really need to make sure you get all the ice out of them things.
Oh, good God.
You got.
They'll blow up.
Yeah.
So you tube that if you want to see some idiots.
Yeah.
Well, I'm glad nobody.
Frozen turkey.
Here's your sign.
I'm glad nobody was filming us idiots.
that day. We, we, at our
defense, we ran that thing in hot water,
but in the same, I mean,
there must have been just a little bit in there
still. Yeah.
Crazy. It was crazy. All right. At
Turn Farm, asks, what
spotters would make a good
TV commentator?
Not Brett.
You'd be fired. You could say
sure.
What spotter
would make a good TV commentator?
You know,
Huh.
I've got one, I think.
Who you got?
I would probably put Jason Jared up there.
Yep.
I like Jason Jared.
He's just got...
Third generation.
Yeah, and he's raised.
He knows, you know, he knows a little bit about it, and he...
He knows how to be politically correct.
Yeah, he's not going to say fuck.
Um...
Who would be funny up there, though?
I'm too politically correct on social media stuff, so I wouldn't be funny.
I think, uh...
I think, Stevie would be funny.
Stevie Reeves, he used to race RRL and came here and.
Yeah, Steve would be pretty good, too.
He'd be funny.
But you got to have a really smart and quick-witted sense of humor.
You wouldn't understand anything he's talking about.
Yeah, he's got, he's real quick with combacks like that.
I'd like to see Eddie DeHan on there just because Eddie gets on the tangent and he'll get on a soapbox.
Like, he may be my guy.
He's got a really weird long island accent.
Yeah, and he's pretty firm in his beliefs on things, so he would probably call it pretty quick.
Like, I was an idiot.
He just drove in there.
And then when he's got to go take a donkey,
Hamlin can go sub for him.
Super sub.
Are you guys got anything you want to rant about?
Man, I do.
And I'm going to keep this short and sweet
because we're running close on time.
But I spotted a truck race for Mike Snyder
this weekend at Phoenix.
I think kids got a lot of talent.
He's coming up through the ranks.
And I'm in the middle of this truck race,
and I'm a fan of all sports.
And I'm like, huh, I wonder how much time is left
on the caution clock. I look around the racetrack. There's no clock anywhere to be found.
Could you imagine going to a basketball game and not being able to see how much time is left
in the half? That's what we're asking the fans to do in the stands, is to figure out how much time
is left before the caution clock goes off. The people at home have it, how can the people
sitting at the event not have this timer? Somebody either has to do away with this caution clock thing
or if we're going to keep this gimmick, put it presently where people can say,
oh, there's 14 minutes left, there's 12 minutes left.
I had no clue.
Ridiculous.
Has it been that way all year?
There's actually a counter, but it's on the big screen.
Yeah, but it's the size of this water bottle.
Yeah, I mean, you've got to look, but we're in a bad spot.
Normally it's right on the front stretch.
It's just our position there, too, though.
At no point in an arena are you located where you can't see the timer.
Yeah, I mean, it could be better for sure, but I,
I mean, my crew chief, we do it a lot, so he updates me.
But it would be nice for the fans.
I'm talking about the fan.
I'm not talking about me.
I don't care.
But they might also, I am not sure if their MRN might even tell you more.
You know what I mean?
And what if they don't have a headset on?
Well, the broadcaster, the announcer, or whatever.
You can't assume the person in the stand says on a headset.
You have to give the fan the timer.
I think if it goes up to a higher series that they can,
play with them, but it'd be...
It better not go up.
That'd be a mistake.
It is good for the Chuck series.
I like it.
I don't like it.
It keeps the races closer and...
I don't love it.
I like it.
There's more strategy.
Put a clock where we can see it or don't do it at all.
You haven't run enough truck races to really know.
I'd only had to run one to figure out.
I don't like it.
All right, guys, we're out of here.
Thanks to One Main Financial for bringing this podcast to you guys.
We only got one show left.
And Exalta and the Exaltza Studios.
Yep, one show.
We're going to have to do it.
me for the off-season shows.
Oof, off-season shows.
Yeah, maybe we could do one after the banquet or something.
I think we should do one every couple weeks or whatever.
And just talk about current events and there's still be racist stuff about it.
Man, when does Trump go in office?
Soon.
We out.
Hala.
Thanks.
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