Door Bumper Clear - 45 - We’re Back, Holla!

Episode Date: January 31, 2017

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and you're listening to Dirty Moe Radio. Outside, door, bumper, clear of the 18th. Best car ahead here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag.

You're win. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotter of the 88 Cup car, the 7 Xfinity. And I'm not sure if it's the 19 or 29 truck yet, but it'll be one of them with Chase Briscoe. Still truck racing. Still.

Good, man. Brett Griffin, Spotter for Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler, and I'm picking up some races, a limited schedule with Mayette Snyder and the trucks this year. Miet. Myatt. What a cool name. Hey, guys, it's KB. In the house.

I don't spot. What do you do? They don't let me up there. What do you do? I handle the chaos that Brett brings to my life in my inbox. God, I'm sorry. That sounds ridiculously. You might want to word that differently.

But anyway, we are coming you from the Exaltor Studio as normal. Yeah. And a podcast that is sponsored by One Main. I've missed all this colorful Exalta Studio stuff. It is. And it's getting a revamp tomorrow. I don't know if we could talk about this. So let's talk about it anyway.

But the word is that Dale Jr. had to start his own podcast, had to become a part of his own podcast. Because we were so wildly successful. Because we were kicking ass on Dirty My Radio. So he comes in and does the first show. And the first thing he says is what, T.J. I don't know. This room's too little.

We need more room. Oh, yeah, of course. Blown out of wall. Because he hasn't had to spend any time in here. Yeah. So he's knocking out walls, so we're going to have the best studio in North Carolina. Finally, Kristen, just sitting on my lap. Get her off.

So it'll be good, man. Your inbox over there. Which show do you think is going to be better? His show or our show? Well, he's not very comical unless you get him rolling a little bit. Like, when you get him around a group of people and he's comfortable with him, He's pretty funny. Yeah.

He's good with Tyler, though, and Tyler has that ridiculously dry, hilarious sense of humor. Is that funny, Tom? That was funny. You're not sure if he's screwing with you? Yeah. Oh, that was funny. So you think their dynamic's not going to be better at ours, though?

I'm going to crash it probably once a month or so. I'll walk in on it. Mike Davis already called that. He said you're not going to be able to stay out of that podcast because of the fame that it could bring that you're going to be all about it. Me? No, I just want to make it. it worse.

I just want to bring it down. Mike Davis, Mike Davis lost a bet because he said on the pilot that T.J. would crash it. I will. TJ didn't crash it. No, they've already done it.

Oh, yeah, no, I'm going to wait a little while. Surprise, sneak attack. Yeah. Hey. So what have y'all been doing?

Well, happy new year. Happy New Year. Been at weddings, traveling. Do you feel relaxed? Do you feel ready to get back into the race season.

I don't feel like it's ever quit. Yeah. He just left a 24-hour race. Yeah, I didn't go. We didn't run that long. Oh, you did? Did you watch start of the race? No.

So, yeah, so we go and spot, me and Kevin Hamlin go in spot for this Lamborghini car. We know the guy that owns it Robbie Benton, and he takes us down there to just take care of the car. You know, it's a long race. And lots of stuff happens. So we go down there and everything is going pretty good and practice and everything. We're just going to go out to a run around race. Well, six minutes into the race. the first driver gets a tire in the dirt

and we end up in the tire barrier. Pretty heavy damage. We end up fixing it for four hours. And in order in that series to get points, you have to run 75% of the race. Yeah. Which I think is pretty cool. Yeah, I agree.

I wouldn't mind seeing something like that transpire, which I guess maybe. Another rule change here. We don't ever change. Well, you would know right then, look, if you're in here and you can't run. You're done. Yeah, you're done.

So, but it didn't end up. We ended up wrecking again in the middle. It rained really bad. They weren't expecting that much rain. Thank you for that. So it rained really bad late in the night about midnight. Kevin's at the hotel sleeping. I always take the graveyard shift because I'm more of a night owl.

So I was starting, I actually sent Kevin out about a half hour earlier than what he was supposed to to go sleep because he's a bed at like 9 o'clock type guy. Yeah, he's a wuss. So I took over at 8. So he could get to the hotel and watch. you know, murder she wrote or guiding light, whatever he was going to watch

before he went to bed. Yeah. Dallas. And then I text him, I'm like, we wreck about almost midnight. I'm like, hey,

you better get ready to come back and get me. Because I was on from like eight till I think three 30. Wow. Three in the morning. So that's a pretty long night shift. But I knew I would sleep better

from three till nine in the morning. That would be pretty good. So, but we didn't make it that far. And then Robbie, we had a flight out late that night. Did the car come back? or no.

Oh, we couldn't fix it after that one. So you didn't write. We worked six minutes. No, we came back out and I did that, did about, I don't know, we came back out and ran a handful more hours. Oh, okay. And then you quit. And then we wrecked it good enough to where we couldn't get around. Oh, you wrecked again?

Yeah, in the middle of the middle of that. You're off to a hell of a start. Yeah. So, yeah, so we ended up getting on an early flight. We got on a 7 a.m. flight out of Daytona rather than a, I think, 7 or 8 o'clock flight out of Orlando. Yeah. and got home and I think we got a couple hours of sleep still because even after that you get out in there and man yeah how is an experience it's still fun I'd go back and do it again um sounds great sounds super fun

rain wrecks yeah now I'm good 830 to 3 30 in the morning that is a long ass race those deals pay well though spotters make good money doing those deals because so this one guy coleman that we know his other spotter didn't show up this guy spotted the whole 24 hours hours by himself. How many five hours was he taken? I don't know. He's probably still up. Delirious.

Yeah. So that's pretty much it. I'll be in Florida again when you hear this. Yeah. So making babies down there? What are you doing in Florida? I'm going to take Harry Potter World. Kristen was supposed to be going.

I petition to go. Do you want a wand? I want a wand. Really? Yeah. Okay. Do you know which one? I want my official letter of acceptance to hoggues.

I don't know if you can get that. You have to do it online. Yeah, Harry Potter? Yeah. I don't know a lot about this. Magic and wizardry. I know it's a big deal when you get this sealed letter. You get this sealed letter and stuff, and yeah, it's a big deal.

She's a nerd. I mean, I have a tattoo. Harry Potter. She does. It's a hot tattoo. It looks great. Yeah. And if you don't know what it is, it's not nerdy.

No. So do we have anything to talk about? We do. Boring these people. So, hey, major announcements in the off season, Cup sponsor is now the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup series plus new formats. I think, did you guys watch the new format announcement?

Yep. How did you think the, I guess ultimately, Brian France was like, hey, I'm Brian France, so I'm going to hand it off Steve O'Donnell. And it's like, all right, you've got a great grasp of this thing, huh? So he hands it off to O'Donnell. So how do you think O'Donnell did of explaining what was going to happen? I actually had to read Jeff Gluck's article about it afterwards because I didn't understand,

A, what he was saying, B, what NASCAR was putting out on social media, or any of the Monster or Xfinity was putting out on Twitter. So Jeff broke it down and I was like, oh, this actually is not hard to comprehend. You just needed someone like me. Well, TJ and I are in the game, and here was my struggles. I've never heard the word playoff. I've never heard the word segment. So some of this terminology is new, and nobody said, hey, you know, because the first thing I'm thinking is, is this, what is this like a caution clock?

Like, I don't know. Some of the elephants in the room for me weren't addressed. They were just like, assume that you're going to know what we're talking about because we're certainly not going to say what we were doing wasn't working. So this is the way we're doing it now. And you can't talk like that when you're inviting fans to this press conference or to chat, you know, watch it. Watch it. And they have no idea what you're talking about. Dumb it down.

I mean, dumb it down for me, too, and I work in the sport. Yeah. Yeah, I think I was actually surprised to hear everything that changed, but. But you guys heard, I mean, there were the rumors for the past month and a half, right? Yeah, there's still questions, though, that I have that are going to have to be answered that as we go along. Because certain situations, a situation is going to come up that they haven't thought about or we've came across yet. It's going to come up. No, we'll have to, you know, adjust on the fly here.

So, and Brett's going to have to pick up his game a bunch this year because he's going to run for a championship probably this year. So I'm back. I think the cool. And, I mean, let's be, the fans need the simple version. So I'm going to try to give my version of it. We're still running the race exactly like we've already run it. What we're going to have are two breaks. There's going to be a break, a quarter of the way through the race, and a break halfway through the race.

And then from there on, we're going to race like normal. So what, what they're, I think the advantage of this is a lot less. commercials for both networks, which fans are, I've watched me. When we watch truck races, I'm like, man, every time they go to commercial, there's a wreck. I think this gives TV an opportunity to kind of wait for those cautions because they know they have cautions coming and they can get their ad time. He breaks. Yeah.

So, I mean, I don't, I think where it got really confusing for me was when they start talking about points. We're giving out points. And it's almost like they should have said, hey, we're only giving out points to the top 10, that number's coming later. And we're giving out a bonus point for the winner for the chase. That's it. That was so confusing.

As soon as I heard that, it sounded like a cycling stage race, like the Tour de France. It sounded exactly the same. And then when I read about it, it was not that at all. Yeah. I think this format is awesome. I really do. I think the Xfinity race and truck race are going to be better than they already were because they're ideal.

You know, you're talking about a two or three-hour race with these segments versus a four-five-hour race. Yeah, it would be. Pressure. Pressure will be higher. Dude, they're going to kill it. Those races are going to be the best races of the year, which is going to put even more pressure on NASCAR, which are already getting to shorten these races,

these cup races, because the truck races and Xfinity races are going to be a better product. My challenge for me is two things. Number one, explaining it to children, because we're trying to get youth in the sport. They're not going to understand it. It's going to take a while. My other big issue is the Daytona 500 is where we kick off our season.

It's 30 million viewers. They've never heard the word segment, and the first time they turn on their TV, that's all these analysts, going to be talking about. I hope Jeff Gordon, Darrell Walsrop, Michael Waltrop, I hope they don't overkill it because I really wish they would have said the Daytona 500 is staying as it was. We're going to start this in Atlanta. But they didn't. We're going to start it in Daytona, but so many fans are coming in for the first time of the year and they're not going to know what we're talking

about because you got a million people that know and you got 29 million that don't. They're going to be like, what is all this segments? Jeff Gordon should have a son, Leo, come on the broadcast and try to explain it in his terms. Yeah. But I do think it's going to make the racing. good. I think it's going to definitely pick up the pace some. There's going to be less, okay, you're faster. Go ahead. There's going to be more of like, no, man, I'm in this spot. I need this extra point here. You're not getting it. Yeah. So, and that's going to matter more now. So I think it'll be, I think, you know, I just hope we stick with it because kids

can pick up stuff a lot faster than we think, but we can't keep changing it. We have to leave it. Like, Madeline's six years old, and she knows more about certain things than I could ever even it is so but we can't keep changing it we got to leave it at something we got to find we got to find something good and leave it um the chase with the admission of what we're now calling the playoff system the chase those words is is probably branding fail you know like you're 14 years invested in a calling your postseason the chase and you just completely abandoned it now monster coming in gave you a great opportunity to do so because it was the chase for the sprint cup you know and all that was kind of tagged together.

But from a branding standpoint, you pretty much said, well, we screwed this up. We're just going to do away with it. But they didn't say that. They just walked away from it, which is weird, you know. Yeah, I kind of liked it being the chase. I did too. I think it made us special.

I feel like fans understood that. Yeah. I mean, you walked away if you were like, hey, we're in the chase. And you knew. You knew then, like it meant something. You're chasing a championship. Yeah, I mean, you just knew that if you said, hey, we're in the chase.

I knew we left Dayton in 2014 in the chase. and it was a relief, but we knew what the chase was. We already knew. But them saying we're walking away from that means globally outside of our little bubble that we all live in, globally, it wasn't working. And that's big. It's kind of like this, for me, what's coming up, Daytona Day. The Daytona 500 has so much branding worldwide. Nobody knows what Daytona Day is.

It's a great American race. But they're still, this is the second, third year in a row, we're pushing Daytona Day. I just call it 500 day. Yeah. It's a 5-100. It doesn't need a gimmick. It's got it. It doesn't need a rebrand.

Now. So caution clock is completely gone now. Yeah, caution clock's gone, which we said last year. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. I kind of liked it in the truck series. It played in some strategy and stuff. You have to pee every 20 minutes.

Well, it actually brought that too. You know, I'd have to try to time it right. But it made the strategy a little bit better, especially like poking know, somewhere like that, where you knew it was going to happen, you a bunch of guys would pit. You never know. I mean, it was kind of interesting, but. We'll dive into this more around.

Once we get into. But, yeah, I mean, trust me. A negative connotation was, well, this kind of, to me, insinuated that drivers weren't driving hard, you know, and they were. But the T.J's point, if you're running eighth now, you're not going to give up ninth, because then you could give up 10th,

and then you could end up 11th, and now you get no bonus points to carry into the next week. And those are regular season points that are going to be important. Which could cause wrecks, which could cause wrecks and excitement and everything else. But I can tell you this. There is no race ever that I've ever been a part of where we were like, oh, we're content running 14th right now. I mean, you were trying to go.

Sometimes you're limited to where as fast as you can go because of the car, but we've never been content anywhere. Even when you're leading, you want to go faster. Yeah. When you're leading the race, you still want to figure out how to make your car faster. We've never been to a point where like, hey, guys, the only time I could think of is Talladega. when everybody gets up by the wall and it's kind of a chess match,

who's going to go to the bottom? It's either Michael or Denny or somebody. But that's just how it goes. I mean, and I actually kind of enjoyed that too because it was a little bit of a chess match on who's going to be them people, you know, and then you get a group down there 15, 20 laps later, and then it's like, okay, here they come. Here they come. Yeah, it was still.

Still good. Yeah, they were still trying. Denny and Brad were heavily, heavy influencers in this format thing. And it was really smart on NASCAR's part to have Del Jr. sitting up there, too. I mean, you have the two guys who are most involved with this thing coming about, and then you have the most popular guy sitting beside you, endorsing it. Yeah, I think the biggest news of the off-season is probably Kentucky getting the new elevator. Yeah.

That's got to be the biggest saying. No more. I guess that kid that got stuck in the last year. The spotters all got our money together, and we hired a spy. And we put that spy in place in the Kentucky marketing department, and we basically said, your job is to get us a new elevator. And so we got word over the winter. I thought it was that trip we took up there with, you know, we knocked on their door and was like,

look, we're not leaving until we get this elevator. So we got word that there's a new elevator coming to Kentucky. I'm so excited for you guys. Congratulations. You did it. It's going to be so nice knowing that when you get on that thing, you're going to get to the roof. Yeah. We're not going to tell you who the spy is, but Lynn, if you're listening, thanks for everything we did.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sorry for all the bad things, Brett said. It was all Brett, not me. They're like the publicity is so bad from the door bumper clear podcast. You need a new elevator. Yeah, maybe they should name the elevator the door bumper clear elevator. Yeah.

They should have a big decal on it. It should have our heads on the door. Every time the door closes, we meet in the middle. Yeah. All the lipstick marks would be on that thing if they do that way. Can't even imagine. Gross. That's a good idea.

Oh, Kentucky girl lipstick. This next one's big. Hey, so in the off season, who would have. thought at the beginning of 2016 that these drivers went up full-time rides in 2017. Greg Biffle, Casey Mears, Tony Stewart, Brian Scott, cousin Carl, well, he retired. Who made this list? I did. This is not, well, Tony retired.

We knew Tony was leaving. Yes. I mean, we kind of counted on Casey. No. Yeah. He had a contract. The guy had a two-year contract left. He had a deal.

Biffle had a contract left. we only knew Tony was leaving but if you look back one year ago if we'd been sitting here and we said all these guys yeah I know about four or five of them

are surprises Brian retiring Carl retiring Greg's a pretty big surprise Carl's a huge surprise Riegen I'm kind of surprised hasn't kind of nitched his way into something else yet

because he's a solid safe driver Yeah done tarp equipment Yeah yeah You know Brian I like Brian a lot

I think we kind of all felt like that was a limited, you know, unless he got into a really good ride and can prove, you know, off real fast car and could really show that he could, you know, go fast. I think we all kind of knew that was kind of limited. But Tony and, you know, our Greg, Casey, a little bit. Greg and Carl, for sure, though. Big names. Yeah.

I mean, the smallest name of the list is Brian Scott. I mean, Greg, Biffel, big name, Mears. The legacy of Casey Mears. I think Greg could have found something, but, well, I don't think he wanted what he could. had taken or he wasn't going to get paid. So, yeah, I don't know. Crazy. I mean, you don't, I think.

Here's the reality of this sport. Tony Stewart left on his own terms. Carl Edwards left on his own terms. Racing quit these other guys. They didn't quit racing. Racing quit them. And that's what typically happens. It happens with spotters.

Happens every year. We had three or four spotters that are good spotters, that are veteran spotters. They got squeezed. out this year. Oh, wow. And it's not because they don't want to work, it's because it retires from you, you know. Robert Yates said it best. I didn't quit racing. My sponsors quit

me. You know, like, it's very difficult to do this forever, you know. So it's really, honestly, that's why it's important to come in and try to make the best name for yourself you can because you'll last, you know, you'll be there longer and, you know,

if you're talented, you'll be a lot, you'll be there longer than, you know, but you're right. Sometimes you don't have a choice. So anyway. Let's go in to spot-on, spot-off. You all ready for that? No. What, you still have things to say?

You're ready for it is? I want to hit, you don't want to hit the Phoenix? Phoenix is in the spot-on-spot-off. Oh, sorry, I already, I moved a little bit on you. If you read this, it helped. TJ. Sorry, let's go to spot-on, spot on. These are words.

Still words. Spot off to you right now. Hurry up. The NASCAR postseason is now called a playoff versus the chase. We already hit on this one. Next, the caution clock has been abandoned. Spot on, spot off. Spot on for me.

Spot on for me. That all you got? Yep. That thing was terrible. It was a fabricated way to break up the monotony of a race. These truck drivers need the opportunity to pit under green some. That was gone. There was nothing good about this caution clock.

I agree. I think the way they're doing the segments now is a better way of doing that. You got something to race for. It's not just, oh, the caution is going to be ready to come out. Good 20 minutes. I actually have a question, though, if we're at a track where just whatever, we have 17 cautions, they still do the segments regardless. The segments can finish under yellow.

So if the segment is going to be lap 100 and we have a wreck at lap 97, if you pit under green and you can do your pit strategy to win that segment. Gotcha. Okay. Be interesting. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. Kentucky Speedway is getting a new elevator.

Spot on. TJ already screwed this one up too If he read this I did read it This is why producer Josh sends this the night before except I read it but I just jumped ahead of you Spot on spot off Phoenix Raceway is doing a

huge remodel huge And Atlanta is doing a repave I'm going spot off Spot on for the Phoenix Raceway Remodel Say that three times in a row fast Spot off for the Atlanta repave Phoenix let me tell you something

When you go out and you mess with asphalt, it makes the racing worse. And fans don't reap the benefit of anything. Phoenix Raceway recognizes that the racing facility needs upgrading. It needs Wi-Fi. It needs better parking. It needs the start-finish needs to be over there in the dog leg or whatever they're doing. So they're doing things to enhance the fan experience. The Atlanta Repave is doing something to screw up the fan experience.

Their facility is still 100 years old. And now their asphalt is going to be brand- new, which means we're going to go around there and break Jeff Bodine's qualifying record or Robbie Gordon's or whoever did in the 97 where they went 200 miles an hour around a mile and a half racetrack wide open. I hate new asphalt. Well, Texas is doing something too. And I don't think Atlanta or Texas, I don't care if it rains at Texas and we're there for an extra day.

That's part of it. The racing is great. They move around. The cars are a handful. Same thing with Atlanta. The racing is great. And honestly, we've had some great races at Phoenix with the start. finish line where it's at.

I'm, you know, if they want to move it, but the only problem I said, and I think Delgir tweeted it too, was they moved to start finish line. It's right in like turn two. Yeah. Like you need to be able to, it needs to be down there in the dog leg a little bit because if guys come off there side by side, I want to see them race to that start finish line, not in the corner. Just based on what they announced, I don't understand where they're spending a hundred and

$180 million. I've never rebuilt a racetrack, so I'm not sure. $180 million. I will say this, and this is kind of like. an underlying thing. A lot of times when you see all these repaves and all these remodels, there's tax incentives to do so. Yeah, that's true.

There was a point where we had eight racetracks in two years do new asphalt because the loophole from a congressman that a guy Phoenix had put into a bill was getting pulled out. So if they did the new asphalt, they were able to appreciate it, accelerated depreciation a lot quicker. And so they all wanted to get in and get a part of that on the tax break side. So some of these remodels, you don't ever know the business side of what may be going on either. Yeah. spot on spot off practice time is cut across all three series i don't think this is even a question

you know it we say that practice time is cut across all three series the Atlanta schedule i'm going to give i don't know what's out what isn't out but the Atlanta schedule it's all up cup practices for an hour on friday an hour on saturday trucks and exfinity practice three different sessions for three hours for an hour each so they're actually getting more practice than Cup is getting. So there is no question, though, for us as spotters. Well, I think some of the best races we've had

has been less practice time. Yes. So I'm not, I'm not against less practice. I mean, I think less might be better. Because there's always a point at practice, and I think we've all been there where you don't, you know, you've kind of, you've tried everything on the car.

Usually you make your car 10% better throughout the weekend, if that. Here's who this hurts. It hurts rookies. because Eric Jones, who else's rookies this year? Ty Dillon, but they have some experience. Ty Dillon. You have a cup of car.

Craig Galding, Eric Jones, and Daniel Svores. You got four rookies right there, three of which are getting in really good equipment. There's no way in our practice is going to get them ready to go beat, you know, Clint Boyer, Dale Jr. Yeah, but I'm okay with that because they're still, they're in great rides racing with great guys. So, and they all have, they all have other people to lean on. They're not, they're rookies in the Cup series, but they're not rookie race car drivers. I mean, one's the Xfinity Series champion now. Eric Jones was probably going to, he was right there.

He's definitely a championship caliber material in the Xfinity series. So you're taking guys that could have won championships there. And I don't, you know, they're all on the same boat. It's not like one's getting more than the other. So these guys aren't straight off of, you know. They're not in the same boat because the guys they're racing have years and years of experience. Well, that's not. They're in the same boat with their other rookies.

But they're not. But rookie of the year, that race, yeah, they're in the same boat. Then race 6th Finney Series another year. Ray Kislauski? Run the Xfinny series next year. Well, they can, but they can't run them all. I'm just saying run them all on that and really run partial card. Their experience is going to, I'm telling you, this is big for rookies, big challenge.

It's a big challenge, but I don't think it's hurting them because they're going to race good guys. You wait until you get to Martinsville and they get 55 minutes of practice. They're going to hit everything, including the pace car. Yeah, but they're going to do that no matter what in their first Martinsville race. I don't care if they have. The first three now because they're still not going to get any experience. And don't forget the Xfinity series doesn't go to Martinsville. Do you get penalized for hitting the pace car?

Dale Jr. didn't when he ran their first time. And that's coming from a two-time Xfinity series champion. Yeah. And he hit everything, including the tow truck that race. And they're going to do Martinsville at night. Yeah. Is that for sure? Well, they put up lights.

These guys come from short track backgrounds, but Martin Zill is tough. I'm excited for them. I think they'll do, I think they're going to get a dose of reality, but I think they're all capable of, three of them are capable of adjusting to it. And they're going to have respect, though. I mean, I think the Cup guys now respect all three of them. Yeah.

I'm not done due diligence in finding out why we did a road course test at Charlotte. Have any of you all heard why? Yeah. What are they doing? What are they thinking? I don't know. I heard October. October race at Charlotte would be a road course race, potentially.

All three? Like I heard maybe the all. All-Star race would be, which would be crazy unless they do it like what we talked about yesterday on Twitter, which is do all three series at one time, do it where it's kind of craziness, you know. It's like demolition derby style. But they didn't. How do you spot that? Well, you guys are spotting three vehicles at one time.

I don't think the roof has enough room for that many spotters. Yeah. Like you'd only run 30. You'd run the top 10 cars from each group. Yeah, but I'm just saying, I mean, it's only 30 people. That's still, huh? So you have three winners as well? Three winners.

Three all-star winners. That's, hey. Hey, each group has their own set of all-stars. I mean, I'm not going to lie, I think it would be fun. When I played minor league baseball, they had all-stars just like Major League Baseball had all-stars. Why not mix them? Have some fun, man. I'd bring my kids to see it.

Heck, yeah. I'd bring them. We need something to shake it up. Yeah. Yeah. Why not, man? But I heard it went good. Really?

Yeah, I heard it was, you know, I don't, who tested it? Hey, Jay. Yeah. Dingling. So he said there was, he said there was like three to four, but I think he said there was four passing zones. Yeah. That means like one for everyone else.

That's, yeah. Yeah, that's two more than we have at Sonoma. Yeah. Do you understand that like a passing zone is in the essence at Sonoma for him? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, AJ is a road course guy, so he knows. Yeah. But, no, I'm all for it, man. If it's exciting, some of our best races are road course races.

So, yeah. But don't take a prestigious race, though. You know what I'm saying? Like that race, you know, the 600 is pretty prestigious. NBC's had a lot of influence in some of these changes that we're seeing. And they have a lot more changes they want to make. And shaking up the chase and having a road course in the chase is one of the things they're requesting. And it's their chase.

They're televising it. I mean, of course NASCAR has an investment in this. It's their playoff. It's their playoff. It's their playoff. It's their playoff. NASCAR has an investment in this, but NBC's funding all that part of the schedule. If they want to see a road course race in the chase, guess what's going to happen?

I think it would be good anyway. The road course races are good races. Yeah. Why not have a good race in there? I mean, throw it in there. Let's do it. Yeah. We're going to take a break.

All right, we're going into Fast Lane. And if we have any new listeners, I'm just going to give for the first show. I'm going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate, and they're going to alternate who responds first. They each get 30 seconds. And then the person who went first gets a rebuttal of the person who went second. Some of the topics are racing and some are non-racing. And Brett generally never knows what those are.

No. Carl Edwards announced that he was retiring from racing effective immediately. What was your reaction to this announcement, and do you agree with the decision to advance Suarez to Cup? Well, first of all, he didn't announce retiring. He announced he was taking a year off. Josh. All right, well, he announced he was retiring.

Anyway, there's more to this story than what I think is being said. Ding ding, ding. There's more to it. So you don't just take a year off when you race your whole life to be this competitive. coming from where Carl came from, the Moller Series with him and the truck series. He didn't race all that to get to be a championship contender and say, I'm taking a year off. He's in the fastest car. He's making $15 million a year.

He's going to win the championship if he doesn't wreck himself in Homestead. You don't work this hard to get this far and just say, I quit. Whatever is going on, we're not getting the truth. The media can be so blind with saying, oh, this guy's so great. he's telling us the truth. He's not telling you the truth. Something's going on. Yeah, I agree.

You don't just take a step back at that point. There's something, maybe, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to take a step back. I don't know what his reasoning is. If he needs something that's justifies them, then that's fine. As long as he's comfortable with it, I just know that you don't go from being that competitive. You know, that's what we all race for. That's what I drove to getting cars like that and have a chance at winning a championship. And you don't just say, oh, man, I'm going to take this year off, you know.

I will say this, though. He doesn't owe us an explanation. Right. It's his choice. He only has to answer to a very few people. Number one is Joe Gibbs. Yeah. Number two is whatever important sponsor contracts he has,

which are Toyota, ERIS or RIS, however you say it, and Stanley DeWall. Like, he has very few people that he owes an explanation to. So whatever he says publicly, he can sell it. Yeah. And it's honestly, in his defense, though, whether we're getting the, We're getting the BS story out of it. I mean, it's his choice.

I mean, if he wants to take a year off, he can take a year off. There's many rumors going around. A lot of rumors. Yeah, there's. And one of them's true. One of them's true. One of them is true, you know. One of them's true.

So, Carl, you know, I believe we will see Carl race again. Yeah. I do. And I don't, not this year, obviously, but I think Carl will be back. Yeah. Which driver's names were bigger than their game in 2016? And will slash can they rebound? Brett.

Their name is bigger than the game. Man, I think Del Jr.'s name was much bigger than his game, not to his fault because he got injured. Clint Boyer's name was bigger than his game because he got in a car that was a piece of shit. Casey Kane's name was a lot bigger than his game in 2016. Those three guys probably are on the top of my list. Yeah, I don't really include Dale Jr. because of the accident, that's nothing he can control. For sure not. Clint, yeah, I mean, Algar outran him in that car by a lot,

and it was kind of a joke there for a while. And I think things are better now. I think he's got a new perspective and ready to go. Casey, you know, Casey normally squeaks out a win or two every year, just out of nowhere, kind of, but he's always, you never know when it's going to be. But definitely, I agree with those three. Will they rebound? Yes, all three of these guys will make the NASCAR playoff.

Yes. You like saying that? Yes. Elliot is running the Daytona 500, so Bretzky, who's going to spot for him? T.J., who should spot for him? Sheriff? Sheriff. Yeah, Elliot's filling spotter is a sheriff, Brian Roberts back in Virginia.

He does all the non-companion stuff, which is a little bit different than Daytona. Okay, that's what I say. If he goes from Iowa to Daytona, we're all going to be all wrecking. Oh, we've actually got a guy by the name of Keith Barnwell who, Keith, Keith, name's Keith. His name is Keith. Listen, we need to talk about Keith right now. He is the only guy that I know that still owns a Blackberry.

Yes. And I'm not talking like an up-to-date Blackberry. I'm talking about like the 2004 Blackberry. Yeah. I loved my Blackberry. Well, yeah. Keith Barnwell still has it. He's actually going to do it.

He did Elliot's spotting when Elliott came into Cup. I'm sorry, into Bush series with Diamond Ridge Motorsports. So Keith Barnwell was the GM guy and the Spotter guy. So when it was determined, I obviously couldn't do it because I'm doing Clint. It was, hey, who we're going to get? So he won't a Keith because he's heard that voice before. He knows what he's going to get from him. There will be no surprises.

Showing up to run the Daytona 500 with a new spot. So who does Keith actually spot for? Nobody. Nobody. He's coming out of retirement. He does some exfinity stuff. What's happening here is Elliot is choosing comfort. he is sacrificing a little bit of, what would you call it?

Potential. Potential for comfortable. This is pretty big, though. This is something that people don't understand. This is what spotters do. This is showing you the comfort level of the drivers have with us and how important it is. So instead of finding somebody that could possibly give him a little more and better

information, Elliot's using his own knowledge and driver ability to take over that to have somebody talk to him that he trusts and is comfortable in his ear. Yeah. I gave him a list of 10 guys. And I said, these are all competent guys. And several of them had already reached out to me saying, I want to do it. I want to do it. And I said, it's your list.

It's your voice in the head. And Tommy Baldwin had a couple of guys he wanted to do it. And Elliott ultimately picked. And again, to TJ's point, he picked the guy that he's worked with before. Because just like if you're a quarterback going under center, you know how that guy's going to hike you the ball. A little bit of different game. Yeah. Daniel Suarez was given a free pass to on the clash race in Daytona on Saturday,

before the 500. Do you think this is a fair decision from NASCAR or should it go with car or driver? Brett. Daniel Suarez was not in this race until Carl Edwards said he's retiring. And then Daniel Sorres was given a buy. So Daniel Suarez does not deserve

to be in this race in any capacity. He can come on the roof and watch it with us. Yeah, that's like saying, hey, I don't feel like spotting this race. I feel like driving it. How about a pass? I mean, I feel like I, You've got to earn your way in.

We're running, we are actually running Alex Bowman in the car, I think. Yep. So he got a poll. Yeah, he won the poll legitimately. He earned his way into their race. He was the fastest guy in qualifying. He earned the pole position. He earned his spot in this race.

What did Daniel Suarez do to get that? He didn't do anything. So it's not right. If Daniel Sores deserves to be in, so does Clint Boyer. Because a 14 car was also locked in. And so if you're going to put the car in, you're putting the car in. you're putting the car in, which is what they're doing with Gibbs. It's completely unfair.

It also gives Daniel an advantage against these other rookies in the Daytona 500 because he gets to go out and run a race with 20 of the best guys in the sport. And it's a God-given opportunity. It's not anything to TJ's point he earned. That's a good point. 2016 rookie of the year class versus the 2017 rookie of the year class. Which class do you think is the strongest overall and why? It's on the back page.

I think last year. I thought that's right now. So last year was a very impressive rookie group. We knew the two top contenders were going to be Chase Elliott and Ryan Blaney. I would love to see Chris Buescher come have a redo of that in the car that he's in now. I think he would be more competitive. But, you know, this is exciting. I mean, you look at those names last year.

You got Ryan Blaney. That dude is going to be in the Cup series for 20 years. You got Chase Elliott, who's going to be there just as long. And I feel like we're adding three more right now. TJ didn't pick a class. So Chase Elliott, Ryan Blaney, Chris Busher, versus Ty Dillon, Eric Jones, Daniel, Sores. I will pick the 2016 class.

Chris Busher won a race last year. None of these rookies will this year. Chase Elliott made the playoff. So that's two-thirds of the guys that were the best made the playoff. Two-thirds of this group won't make it. 2016 is your better rookie class. Yeah, you have, if we would ask this question last off season, I would have said we have two potential race winners between Chase Elliott and Ryan Blaney.

And the guy that we didn't pick to win, you know, won. And this year, you know, I feel like Eric Jones will, I think he'll be competitive in a few races, but I think his lack of experience late in races like that will cost him a little bit. So 2016. Some Spotter news there too. So when Carl said he's retiring, Carl Spotter, Jason Hedleski, had been with Carl forever. and Daniel Suarez, when he ran Xfinity, had Matt Kinsa's spotter. So when Daniel Swares-Ox-Own, right.

Yeah, so when Crazy, who's been on our show. So when Daniel decides that he's going cup racing, he's bringing crazy Chris Osborne with him, which makes Hedleski swap over to Kenseth. So two of the four Gibbs guys are going to have new spotters. I'm telling you, it matters. Like, it matters for the first month. Yeah, Daytona 500 last year.

It mattered. Yeah. Off the wall topic. Super Bowl is the Sunday, Dirty Birds versus the Pats, who you got, Brett? Super Bowl Sunday. Do we call it Super Bowl Day? The day of the Super Bowl Day.

Well, it's Super Bowl week right now. It's Super Bowl week. What do we name this, Josh? Football Day. What's a good name for the Super Bowl? Maybe just call it the Super Bowl? I would say that. Stunning.

The big one. The big one. Oh, my God. How do you not go with freaking Tom Brady? He's a minus three-point favorite. The guy is... I hate Tom Brady, so therefore he will win. He wins the game with a set of skill players that are not as good as some other skill players.

I mean, give this guy Julio Jones or... I mean, I don't know. I got to pick the Patriots. I absolutely hate the Patriots, so they'll probably win. Is that your logic? Tom Brady, listen, I'm a Bill's fan. We see Tom Brady a lot, and he is really, really good. I'm hoping he wins and retires.

So let's go with that. And not to mention. How many Super Bowls have been in? Four of the last six. He's been in a lot. He's greatest, man. He's the greatest ever throw football. Who you got?

Who are you pulling for? I can't. I can't root for the Patriots. Who are you pulling for? Falcons. Yeah. I'm not a Patriots fan, but I am glad that I got to witness Tom Brady.

Josh, what you got? Uh, I would rather see Atlanta win, but I'm also betting on it. You can't bet. That's illegal. No, yeah. You can. No. In Vegas, you can.

Oh, you're going to Vegas. Or Atlantic City or... Atlanta City. Reno, Lake Tahoe. There's all sorts of places. You can have Cherokee. Cheris. Yeah.

They take sportsbook bets. I'll tell you what, I'll drive up there with you and I'll make a wager with you. So I got a little something to pull for it. Otherwise, I don't know how we'd bet. I hope you guys are. You guys are getting arrested. Me and Kristen will be carrying this show here in the beginning of the year. Thank God for you to get bailed out.

And expungements. I go with the Patriots. Is that really? I'm the lone wolf. Atlanta's playing the best football. I know, but the Patriots are going to win. Atlanta's playing the best football. But God, almighty.

If you slow down, like, if you can slow down that, if they can't score 35 points, they're not going to win. Green Bay, if Green Bay kept stop shooting themselves in the foot, they could have beat Atlanta. And I think Green Bay and Patriots would have been a really good, I honestly would not be surprised if the Patriots blow them out. Yeah. Pittsburgh's on the bed, too.

They were playing terrible. They were bad. And now your quarterback might retire. Wow. He's coming back. I'm not a Pittsburgh fan. Follow another chick in a bathroom. I would be.

That was a long time ago. You can't forgive some things. I'm just saying. I like watching Pittsburgh play. They're fun to watch. They are fun. Hashtag Ask DBC. Producer Josh picked some questions from some of our followers.

And here we go. At AT-T-O-C-S-1 asked. Do you guys ever have a meeting? greet before any of the races for us fans of the show. I do a lot of meet and greet stuff with sponsors and stuff a lot. But I don't know. I would say if anybody requests it, we would normally, it's not a big deal if we get a few people there that want to go and meet and say hi.

I have people come to the hauler asking if they can meet you too. The hauler or where to find you. The hauler. I think the biggest thing was people requesting to meet Kristen when we were starting up when she was Googling her website domain. Now that they've shut down back page, I don't know. that you guys will get requested as much as you used to. Stop it.

We actually do. I mean, we go to tweet-ups when they ask us to come. I mean, it's not something that we frequent without invitations, but with Jeff Gluck or those guys put it together, we'll go. And we do a lot of stuff for sponsors. I mean, last year, TJ and I did a lot of stuff for Sprint together. Hopefully Monster recognizes my value. It brings me in, and if not.

I recognize your value, Brett. Thank you, thank you. But, yeah, I mean, it's really cool when TJ and I are walking to the elevator before the race and somebody says, hey, man, I love the show. It was like a weekly thing last year, so it's pretty awesome. At least people listen and have a good time with it. Prestige. At Cornwit asks, how many of the following get a win in 2017?

The 31921, 24, 42, 77. Oh, there's two parts. Part two. Will Eric Jones shed any tears on camera? Well, Cornwit will probably not win any races. Let's see. I got the 24 winning a race. I got the 42 winning a race.

So of the ones that you submitted, that's who I've got winning with Eric Jones shed any tears on camera. We'll probably only see his back and his ass running away from it, so we wouldn't know if he did. This guy really needs to mature this year now to these in cup. I mean, I hope somebody is giving him some really good media training to help him realize his potential on the camera as much as in the race car. You know, I'm going to give, I think the three can pull through this year.

He's made a lot of improvement to the last two years and the next steps victory lane for him. So he's been leading a handful of times. He's been top five a bunch. I think the next step's victory lane. So I could see him winning. I think Ryan Blaney, I see how he starts the year. I think once he figures out, calms down a little bit and matures a little bit more, like he's going to, I don't know if he's quite there yet. Chase is there.

Chase is ready. The 42 could definitely win as well. He could win five races. He could. 77, I think, will be contending late in races a few times, and I think something he'll get caught up in something, and I think there will be some tears. Yeah, tears.

Just to touch on something that maybe has not been talked about a lot, there's a lot of rule changes in the Cup series and the Xfinity series. They're taking a lot of downforce away in Xfinity. In Cup, we've got all new rules. And there's a lot of questions in the garage is, hey, what is NASCAR going to enforce? You know, so that is going to play into which cars are badass at Atlanta versus some cars that were badass last year that may not be up to speed. I mean, when you look at Gibbs last year, they didn't work on this 27 team package at all, and a lot of teams did. So it'll be interesting to see who comes out, you know, with the guns of blazing versus some guys that still have to catch up.

At Rapela 70 asks, rumors on a podium style. victory lane this year? What do you think, T.J? You think that would be cool? I do. I think they should open it up. It's tough, though, with some of the victory lanes, though, because they're so small. I think they need to make a path after the race for the fans like they do in Formula 1 and the other sports and let them come celebrate below the drivers where they go to. Them people are crazy about that stuff. They get to go there. They're standing by the teams over here.

They get to stand there and celebrate with their drivers up. They're holding trophies up. I think we should do it. My question is, though, is when, you know, let's just say it's Kyle Bush leading, and it's Denny Hamlin running second at Daytona for the 500, and Kyle goes down, then he comes up, hooks him, Kyle ends up finish in second. You really think Kyle Bush is going to go to Victory Lane to stand on the podium. And your example, no, but find him 100 grand.

Yeah, I mean, I'd probably go if you take a little money out of his pocket next time. Listen, I mean, hey. That's interesting. Well, I mean, maybe throw a right hook when you're staying next to them up there. That'd be better. I don't know. I'm all four opening the front gate, letting the fans run out to the infield to enjoy the win. And I've said this before.

There's nothing worse than a racetrack that builds Victory Lane where the fans can't even see it. We go to a lot of places where Victory Lane is hidden. When you go to a short track and they run on Saturday night, Victory Lane is at the start finish line. There's no reason why we can't construct some of these opportunities to bring the drivers back out. We interview the top five on TV anyway. It's mandated. They're isolated on pit road. Do your podium, but do your podium with the top five.

I mean, like, there's a lot of things we can do to get more creative, and I certainly hope that the marketing folks are looking at that. That just makes it more chaotic for us. You look at the end of the Formula One race, though. Those people are running. Running. They are running there because they know they're getting to go see their drivers. These fans have been there.

Our sport isn't typical. You go to a football game four hours before kickoff. Fans come to our venue Thursday night before a Sunday afternoon race. Give these guys. give back to the fans. I think they should be able to get closer and enjoy it. Yeah, they should be able to kiss them all the cheek if they want. Yeah, I don't know.

All those fans at the Indy Xfinity race can come down. I mean, listen, that does nothing but that does nothing but enhance the experience. I'll sweat together. Major experience upgrade there. At Duncan underscore Harris asked who's going to take the first win out of Dale Jr. and Clint Boyer. Let's have a wager on this one. All right. Where are you going to do that?

Atlantic City. We're going to get in my car and drive us to Cherokee after this, man. We're going to right after this. Oh, God. I love Cherokee. What do you want to? Cherokee people. Is it really illegal if you just bet each other?

No. There's got to be like over 10 grand. No, Pete Rose. All right. $9,99. We're going to bet a chick-fil-a-blet bill. We're going to bet a chick-fil-a-billet. Well, you're like seven behind me.

Why, we didn't have a bet? I was just being polite and friendly. Yeah. You're just being Carl Edwards. It was a great guy that everybody thinks he is. All right. So we got a bet. We got a bet.

Do you really think you're going to win before us? I just said, yeah. Chicken biscuits on me. I love your enthusiasm with it. But, yeah. Next. Is this your Travis? C.

underscore 48 asks, What is more impressive, JJ's seven titles or Jeff's four titles on a Rolex 24? Travis, you're way too smart of a fan that has such a dumb question. Travis, Travis, Travis. I mean, we got a guy going for eight. Yes. Eight time. Jimmy Johnson is way more impressive in terms of his titles.

I will say this, though. There's only four drivers in history that have won the things that Jeff Gordon just pulled off. Jeff, Jamie McMurray, Mario Andredi, and AJ Foote. So Jeff certainly put himself in some exclusive company by winning the Rolex. But, dude, it's way harder to win seven cup titles and going for eight. And still on top of your game going for eight. Yeah. So, yeah, definitely.

Y'all ready for a rant? T.J., what you got? I was going to hear yours and base mine off of you. Ram with you. That's really simple. You know, I watched this Carl Edwards Presser. And I watched all of these people talk about how great of a guy he is. Here's what Carl has done that I personally know that makes him a great guy.

When he wins his trophies, he doesn't keep him. He gives him to other people in his life. He gave one to his spotter when he won the Southern 500. That is a great gesture in something that a great guy would do. But beyond that, what has Carl Edwards done to make him such a great guy? Because he's good on camera, because he takes his sunglasses off for an interview. you like I don't see this guy's foundation raising millions of dollars for needy children. I don't see him giving money.

I don't see him being a Tony Stewart giving plane rides to Kristen because her mom's sick and Kristen needs to get home. I don't know where some of these media people come up with some of these stories. So I just was curious as to what y'all's real take on what makes a person a great guy. Well, I also think the media kisses their ass a lot of the time. I mean, the thing is like Clint Boyer on camera is a real dude. Like, that's who he is in real life. Elliot Sadler on camera, real dude in real life.

Some of these people, Rusty Wallace. But Elliot is a good dude. Rusty Wallace would turn it on for the camera. And like, don't tell me how great of a dude he is when he's an ass-h-h-h-hle in the coach lot. Like, some of these people need to stop worrying about who's good on camera and evaluate who they are as real people. I mean, did Carl Edwards mention his wife in his retirement thing? Yeah. Was she there?

Yeah. Like, I mean, if we're going to talk about great people, like, let's talk about, you know, Greg Olson, who has raised. and all this money for charity and like running for NFL man of the year. And let's talk about Kyle Petty, who has done more for children in a month and I'll do in my entire lifetime. I don't know what warrants some of these people, some of these media people to call people great guys. But let's just base it on, you know, how they are personally and professionally, not just how they give an interview. I agree with that. And Carl Lever's maybe a great.

I don't know him personally. So I'm not saying he's not a great guy. But we certainly don't need this perception, public perception of, oh, this guy is such a great guy. When I know what my guys do for other people versus not, you know. Hell, Elliot and Hermey gave me their tickets tonight for the UNC Pit game. See, that's a great guy. Yeah. Hermie's like, you can have our seats.

Just don't yell too loud for Pitt. Yeah, and don't wear their colors. Right. Yeah, because you'll get them kicked out. Yeah, I don't, I mean, you never really know them people until you know them personally. So I know I don't, I don't have a very high opinion of him myself, other than, you know, great on camera. If you see him to gas pump, he'll be the nicest guy in the world, do you?

You know what I mean? But I've just seen other things happen that lead me to believe differently. So I definitely see what you're coming from on that. My whole thing is let people form their own opinions, you know, and don't be forcing your always such great guy opinion on everybody else. Do you think it's somewhat he's so private about his personal life and a lot of other drivers lay it all out there, like the Kyle Busch's and guys like that who you're like, wow, he's kind of in.

Again, I mean, what makes you a great guy, right? It's the gift of giving. It's the gift of love. It's the gift of all these things. And it's not because you're a great race car driver and you smile really pretty when you get interviewed, you know. I mean, Tony Stewart's one of the greatest guys any of us know. And here's a guy that when he straps his helmet on, he's a complete of all his competitors. but when he gets out of his car,

he would do anything in the world for you, you know? Yeah. And not even know you, you know? He's done so many things for so many people. There could be an entire book on it. How many children a year, make-a-wish children, is Del Jr. do meet and greets with? We have that number.

It is astounding. Yeah. What is that? That's a great guy. Huge. That's a great guy. Yeah. Show me, like, when I, and here's my thing,

I guess as an industry insider, I see all of these things, and I see all of these people. people doing all these things. So when I hear people say, oh, that's a great guy, well, I don't see him doing all those things, you know. I don't, I don't see him going to VA hospitals, which we've done with Elliott. You know, I don't see him going to children's hospitals, which we've done with Elliott. I don't see him hosting autism families, which we've done with Elliot. Yeah, charities, anything. And those are things that Elliot is doing. It's not because

sponsors are going, hey, man, we've got to do this. So that's a great guy. You know, the fact that Elliott wants to go out and drink a beer after work, hey, man, so do I. Like, that doesn't make him not a great guy, you know. So, I don't know. I hear you. Valid rant. Yeah, you thought about that one. Hashtag fake news.

Yeah, fake news. Fake news always wins. Yeah. Fake news always wins. Did you see Denzel Washington's rant on fake news? Should Google it. I love Denzel Washington. I mean, he's my favorite actor probably ever.

I mean, that guy could read the phone book and I'd be like, oh, he's awesome. But he goes off on fake news. It's awesome. It's good. Him and Morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman could Oh yeah narrate anything

Let's try to impersonate Let's study their voice So next time Let's try to do our whole show Andy Andy Dufrain What the hell was that? Remember the movie?

Remember Shawshank? Yeah, I remember Shawshank That wasn't Morgan Freeman Yeah We went to Shawshank No, Red, I know Your impression sucked No, it didn't

That's how he talks Just like that I guess Actually, I thought you were Yeah, Josh and I and the PR team, we went to the Shawshank Prison when we were at Mid-Ohio. I don't know. Or was it Road America. Road America.

Yeah. It was a pretty big difference in geography there. I don't remember. After a few Dale's paleos, I don't remember anything. No. Every week, man. I can't trust them. TJ, what do you got for a rant?

You've had three months to come up with one. I'll see. He's a lazy podcast host. He doesn't read a show. I did read my show. I did read my show sheet, but You just forgot at all. We kind of, no, we kind of cover most of what I

want to rant about. Like, I go off, like, mini rants during the show. So, it's kind of hard to rant about something. All right, I'll take that, a mini rant. Yeah. Like, I do, like, five mini rants. Like, I'm pissed off that a superstar's walking away. You know, for, and we don't even know why.

Fake news. Yeah, we don't even know why. It's a bunch of fake news. Just come on, come out with it. You know, you done, done, or what's the deal? You're mad at somebody there? Did you get paid and leave? What's up?

Something. Something. So, yeah. You don't. You don't. No. There's too many people, like, we all have friends on, and they don't even know. Like, we have people that do this for a living and to walk away like that, which is completely

understandable, or at least tell us the truth. Yeah. You know, so. Like some of the guys out in the shop are texting other shop guys. over there that didn't know until the news broke on. Oh, no, they didn't know. No, they didn't know. Yeah, that's, I mean, if you want a year off, just come out and say about it.

Look, man, I just need to get some stuff together. I need to take this year off. Well, here's one thing we knew for sure. We know Suarez was coming, and we know that that sponsor is going to stay loyal to him. So for me personally, when I started seeing Denny Hamlin, his contract getting redone, I was like, there's not room for somebody over there. You know, is it Matt or is it? Or is it Carl or who is it?

Because it's not Kyle. Kyle's safe. Svarez is safe. So you know somebody's in trouble. Then they've got Eric Jones under contract on a loaner, which means if he can come back and still five-hour move as part of the deal under this monster energy piece. Yeah.

I could see him coming back eventually. But like you said, it's like musical chairs. Yeah. There's no room in the stable. Somebody's not getting a seat. So did somebody say, I'm mad, I'm out? So funny story. Clint Boyer had a party a couple weeks ago.

No way. He does this every offseason, and he has a band. This time he got an 80s band. But I'm standing there, and guess what crew chief comes walking up to me? Big dummy. Brian that made the call for Colwit to stay out in the Xfinity race. Why was he there? He comes up to me.

He used to work on Client stuff at RCR. Did he listen to your rant? Long-time friends, right? He walks up to me and he goes, Brett, man, I owe you a pop. Oh, really? I should have been four rows back. I turn red face, and I'm like, what in the fuck? Or are you thinking?

And I'm like, and here's the thing. Actually, after you did it, you could have helped me if you would have just taken the bottom versus taking the top and screwing up the entire racetrack. You had a rant on the radio. He said that he is perceived as the dumbest guy in racing right now, and that he's no longer going to crew chief that car, and that he got death threats over this crap. Oh, that's sad.

That is sad. I don't like that. Brian's a good dude. So ironically, though, I did run into him, and we hugged it out. You know, after a few drinks, you all start crying, and you love each other anyway. I don't think he's apologized nearly enough to enough people. I think there's a, TJ may be able to give us in telling this. I think the majority of the industry is surprised that Dale Jr. decided to come back,

given the situation he was in. I don't, I don't, I'm not surprised. I see the drive in him. I see the drive. I see, this dude's happy, man. Like, he, I feel like it was too soon. He's got, and he's got, he's not done. We know he's not done.

I can tell he's not done. When I saw that, when I saw him get out of that car, Darlington, that was enough for me to know that he, if he would, if he did decide, I think it would aid him up. Yeah. Like, he would, it wouldn't be able. Like, this is, this is honestly the best, uh, position. I've seen in happiness level I've seen Dells Jr. ever have. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm really happy for him.

Yeah, the wedding was awesome. Like, I don't think it, you know, one thing he told us that's funny before the wedding, we were kind of staying in this, in this room adjacent to where the wedding was. And he told us, he's like, man, he's like, I was at all you at y'all's weddings. And I didn't respect it nearly enough for what y'all were going through and now that I'm going through it myself, you know. Yeah. So, and it's like having kids, too.

You can tell somebody what it's like. all day long but until you have him you don't even yeah you don't have any idea so but it was cool to he's that's cool that he has respect and he thinks about things like that like man you guys already went through this i really know what it's like now and he has a lot of industry admiration because of he's coming back you know you know writing when i had to i had to write that speech um it was actually fairly easy to write it and i kind of felt it kind of felt like a goofball writing but he's been such a good role model. You know, it's hard to have one of your,

write about one of your best friends being a role model for yourself, you know. He's a little bit older than me, but he's just handled diversity in so many different ways that I've watched and probably learned, like, you know what I'm like, you know what I'm like, like off camera or off, off, you know, air, really. I'm way more vocal. And, but, you know, to watch the road that he's paved and watch things he's done has taught me a lot of lessons that I think of,

applied and, you know, I think it's going to make me a better person in the long run, too. So, you know, it was easy to write about him being a good role model, and I think he's a great role model for everybody. Yeah. So. I say this and I truly mean it, I hope he wins a Daytona 500. I mean, after going through what he's gone through personally and professionally, it'd be awesome for him to do that. Be cool. Yeah.

If I can't win Clint Boyer, he can finish second. I get old Clint, I can win my bet. Give me a free chicken biscuit. Great. I could use a chicken biscuit right now. Josh, what are you been doing? Sleeping up to, yeah. Yeah, sleeping.

How's your off-season been? It's been good. How's Tennessee doing, man? Oh, they're doing great. Just fantastic. Any new butterfly tattoos or anything? Yep, brand new one. Any drunken nights you want to share?

He's going on dates. Not really. Oh, you're dating. Rumor has it. You had a few dates. Yeah. Really? I tried to stalk her and he won't give me her last name,

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