Door Bumper Clear - 47 - Day After Daytona Day

Episode Date: February 27, 2017

Brett, TJ and KB discuss the pros and cons of this weekends events at Dayton. Crashing, new rules, and more crashing. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag. You're win. Oh, yeah! Hey, everybody.

I'm T.J. Majors. Fresh wrecked out of the Daytona 500. I spot for the 88 cup car, 7xivity and 29 truck. Is there a race that you didn't wreck out of? Yes, the truck and the Arca race. Arca. Yes, I'm not doing that bad. It's not as bad as it looks.

50%. I bet at 50%. I spot for Elliot Sadler, Clint Boyer, and my highest finishing non-recking driver, Myatt Snyder. Actually, we wrecked three times, but we still finished. Yeah, I was going to say, I looked at your fender that one time under caution, so. Crazy.

Yeah. How are you, Ms. Kristen Bauer? I'm great. Yes. Yes. You look wonderful this morning. Why, thank you. You look more professional than normal.

And the meanwhile, I'm not looking. professional. So Brett is wearing the last set of clean clothes from his luggage, and that includes flip flops. I'm wearing flip flops and a pola, a pretty polo shot, though. I'm pretty sure you got on me the first few episodes saying I wasn't dressed up good enough. Now look at you. Well, so here's what happened. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I landed last night and was informed that my 10-year-old had a fever, so I am a germaphobe and refused to go home. So I went to my buddy Dave's house. We built a fire. We set out by the lake in 40-degree weather. I had some Dale's Pellel.

Kristen, supporting the sponsors. And woke up this morning, and I smelled like campfire. So I had to dig through my clothes, and this is all that was left. Where were you going to wear this ensemble in Daytona? I wasn't. This is what's left. So this is like a shoe from when I would have gone on the beach, a shirt from when I would have gone to a nice dinner. And these pants, I'm not sure that I didn't wear it.

And what about underwear here? Yeah, I don't have any of them. Slick Willie. Everything on TJ is gray. I know, I grayed out today, except for the black polo. And TJ just informed us that his little girl is throwing up everywhere. So Kristen and I are cuddled up on one side of the room. We look like we're on a date, and TJ's the third wheel in the show.

They blow out this studio. The couch is three times as big, and we're occupying one cushion. We're signings twins over here. This couch looks like it's straight out of a 70s adult film. I mean, it is. Shag carpet. I mean, yes. Yeah.

I will say the Exalt the studio. is looking really nice now, though. It's roomy. We can get guests in here from the store over here. We could do all kinds of stuff now. Yeah, we could. I have a dog chewing a bone on this couch with us right now. I bet one main financial finance the studio,

because we all know Dell Jr.'s run a low on cash. I'll bet Exaltor painted it. Yeah, I bet. Are we live out in the store? Okay. We're live. Is anybody here? Has anybody in the store?

Millions of people. There's this look-a-like Dell Jr. thing that freaks me out every time I see it. Yeah. The madam two-s-sows-wax figure. We're live, Renee said. We're live. We're nice to keep the swearing to a minimum.

Yeah. Yeah. So, well, and also, like, every time you take an animal in there for the first time, like, he, like, they'll bark at it. They think it's real. Yeah. Like, women, like, old women have went in there and be like, oh, hey, there's Dale Jr. And it's not really him. It's freaky. It is a little freaky.

Well, it's completely down to, like, his fingernails and his eyelashes is Dale Jr. Yes. A wax figure. So a little creepy in there. A little creepy. So everyone made it through the Daytona. Did you do anything crazy? Any hospital visits?

Anything. I did have an episode Friday night, yeah. Really? Yeah, we went to the oyster pub and I got a little sick because everything in there is fried, but I thought I'd be okay with a salad and I wasn't. You always think you're going to be okay. I haven't been to the oyster pub. Would they fry the salad?

Did you get a rash? No, I just, I had to take a bunch of Benadryl through my throat. Did you go to sleep? after? Yeah, Kelsey RPR girl. She's up my emergency contact on the road, so she comes in stage. Do you feel hungover after you take Benadry? I do.

I wake up and I have to just mainline coffee because I'm in a fog. I hate Benadry. So it wasn't, you tried to make it bad, but it didn't get too bad. Yeah. That's better than normal. At least you're here today. I'm here. Hey.

I mean, last year you took about, you took about three weeks off in the beginning. Well, you know, that'll happen. How was your Daytona, T. Full of, I flooded the sheet metal market. That's a fact. Have you taken that car to the cemetery? Which one? Well, you got to refer to what race you're talking about here.

Justin's or Dale's? I don't think the 88 will go there. It's not too bad. Just enough damage where we couldn't get it fixed in the five-minute clock. So Justin's car, I think part of it might still be in the wall. I saw that car in the garage when I came back. to get something and I didn't know where the transmission was. Yeah, that was one of the scarier wrecks that I've been involved in.

And honestly, you know, a lot of these wrecks weren't really caused by nothing had to do with the length of the race or the stage. It was just people making errors, drivers making mistakes. So whether you want to call it like stage racing or I don't care if there was 50 to go or 200 to go, the wrecks that I saw a lot were driver-indexam. do. Like, mistakes they were making. So, you know, and it tore up a lot of cars.

But I was glad to finish two of the races. Well, if you include the duel, I'll take that one. I think I beat you in every race this week. Yeah, no. Where'd you finish in a truck race? Third. Oh, okay, so you beat me there. I finished 10th.

Where did you finish in the duel? I beat you. Yeah, you got, you followed that line by. Finish second, yeah. Yeah. Well, the seas parted correctly for you. Exfinity race, we wrecked, but I wrecked after you did. Yeah.

Cup race I wrecked, but I wrecked after you did. Yeah, but I wrecked while leading. I beat you in three out of four. I ain't bad. Yeah, but how Brendan do. Brendan beat, Brent, you won the one that mattered, I guess. Yeah. That's a big one, man.

He finished 10th, right? I know. It's crazy. I couldn't wait to get here. How many cars weren't tore up at the end of the Daytona 5? 35 out of 40 cars had damage. Damn. Five were five.

Five cars were not damaged. You know, in the first half of that race was clean. Kurt Bush wins a plate race with no mirror. You tell me a spotter, it and a big deal. How can't say everybody's ass at the racetrack? With 30 to go, that's a big. That's a big. That's huge.

Yeah. And I was, we were all on the plane already, and we're sitting there. And this guy in the very, very back of the plane, I apologize. I don't know a lot of guys on my team yet. But he is screaming, and you can hear the audio from his phone barely. You can't really tell what they're saying. He's screaming, Kurt Busch is going to win. And everybody thought he was kidding.

You know, cell service was crap because Sprint's gone. So none of our phones worked, you know, that girl. Yeah, mine didn't work. No, mine was junk. But anyway, so... Of course, that was 40,000 feet in here. 50 people on a plane go bananas.

That was pretty cool. Cool, cool atmosphere. But was it a good finish, Josh? Yeah, it was a really good finish, actually. It was a pass for the win. Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, Kurt Busch only led one laugh, but it was... It wasn't like a pass for the win-win.

I mean, it was like... It was a pass for the man. But it wasn't like you ran up there, and they were side-by-side coming in a lot. But the ending was good, though. there's drama. Yeah. What happened with Chase Selly?

He ran out of gas. Same thing with Larson. He had to switch to that little reserve. Casey sputtered off a two as well. Yeah, he was sitting in a good little spot there. He was third. I honestly thought Larson was going to take it. And then he tried to block when he ran out of gas and that didn't work.

Yeah. Yeah, they. So that's how I saw Kurt made the move to the left to the inside and Larson blocked him and then Kurt just drove around him on the outside. So that's why he was having fuel issues. Yeah, I will say. Why did that turn in? do a fuel mileage race?

Because they all, so you're trying to pit as early as you can. We treated it like a freaking, we treated every segment like a freaking road course. Yeah, you're trying to, you're trying to pit as early as you can. That way you're the first one to pit, and you'll be the last one out. So when it cycles, you're going to be the leader. And the other thing to that, the advantage to it is, the real thought process is when you look at the Toyota teams, they were the first to pit. When they hit their fuel windows, they pitted.

What they're banking on is there will be a caution. everybody else will pit under caution. They'll come out behind you because you won't pit again. You can get to that next window. And then you're the leader. That's what they're banking on. But we didn't see a lot of that. Honestly, it was hurting them, I think.

They were, and when we got in that wreck, they were in trouble. Because once we pulled off, a lot of cars in that group were going to pull off. And they were going to be there by themselves again running slower lap times. And we were sitting pretty good. And that's the other thing. When they're out there, five of them in a line, they're running fast, but the pack is running faster. So the longer it goes, the bigger risk they're in.

But the thing is, these engineers come up with all these formulas to say there's a 69% chance that we're going to wreck in the first segment based on history. There's a 42% chance they're going to wreck on lap 88. Like the engineers compile all this data. So Toyota is literally running the strategy of their race solely on statistics. Right? Yeah. And it doesn't help when two of them speed the first time.

on pit road either. That really hurts, too. Sour is, man, the flound, he ran a terrible race. And the 20. He did, he had a terrible race. That was not good. Yeah, he didn't have a very good race at all. And 20 sped that first run too, so that didn't, that ruined half their group.

So that's a lot of speed, but yeah. Anyway. We got a good show today, Kristen? We do. Josh, y'all compile a good show. You guys ready to go into spot on, spot off? Let's do it. All right.

Brett, you're going first, spot on, spot off. the duels. I've got to say spot off. I'm a big fan of history, but I think the duels have run their course. We got 38 out of 42 cars are already locked in the Daytona 500, so we realistically ran two races

to determine the fate of four cars. The field obviously gets set based on this race, but I just feel like we only sold 12,000 tickets to this race. What? Yeah, the stands were empty, and I just feel like this thing needs an overhaul.

And I'm anti-change. I mean, just you guys look back at what we've said on the show for over a year. We don't promote change a lot, but I feel like these races or the purpose of these races needs an overhaul. Or just go away. Are you done? Yeah. Geez.

I'll go spot on with the duels. I like the part of it. I used to listen to them in class. Like, I like the fact that they were during the day run at the same time as the 500. I'm not a fan of the night duels. I like getting up on Thursday going there. And it didn't mean more. He's right when there was more cars that had the race their way in.

But when you only got four guys, it was still exciting for those guys. But it wasn't as much. You know, remember when Brad pushed his brother in? There was more cars back then that were trying to get in. And there were more storylines behind it. Like, you know, Brad got shuffled back. So he got behind his brother and pushed his brother way to the front. And his brother made the race.

Huge deal for a tiny team. Absolutely. Now you only have a couple. and you don't even really hear about them. You know, you don't even really hear about, well, this guy made the race, this guy did. And then, you know, it's moved on. But I like the duels.

I think it gives us all a good idea. I think we need something like the duels to find out what our cars are going to be like for the 500, for a better race. If we'd have been spot on. But we didn't. And we didn't learn anything for the Daytona 500. I don't know. I'm spot on for a duel.

I'm spot on for a duel. Any race during the day, like, I don't like the night racing duel, though. It doesn't do anything for us. Yeah. So he's spot on, but he's really spot off. Yeah. I'm both. Spot on, spot off.

Stage racing across all three series. Man, I kind of liked it. Spot on. I mean, it makes the races, obviously Johnny Sawdard didn't win the truck race, but he won the two segments, and he's still in it. Yeah. So it paid off for him to be aggressive them first couple segments, and it, you know, and it pays off.

So I like it. I am definitely spot on. I mean, we took the lead in the Xfinity race, and I'm like, man, we're not getting a point for this. That sucks. And then we're leading the most laps. I'm like, man, we're not getting a point for this. This sucks. But then you go back and look, and it's like, man, we got, we accumulated all these points.

We accumulated two playoff points. We accumulated 20 bonus points. We're third in points and we wrecked. So we had a good enough effort. But you learned that. We got paid. I mean, so it was, it was awesome. And I think it changed a lot of the strategies.

I mean, we just talked about the fuel strategy that, the, teams are doing on Sunday. It changed a lot. So I think we're going to see this play out for the fans and for the drivers. I mean, we saw three and four wide coming to lap 60 for the Daytona 500. We wouldn't necessarily have seen that if those points weren't on the line. And you got to remember at smaller tracks, they're not going to be able to peel off in pit. Right.

It's not going to be an option. But places like Pocono, the road courses and stuff. Indeed, you're going to be able to do it. But not, you know, when we go to a mile and a half in the regular. majority of the schedule, they're not going to be able to do that. But I liked it, man. It made guys go after it more. We had less riding around.

We had guys knowing it was going to matter to get up there. So I think it would be good as we go forward. My question is, for y'all, you and Josh, they stopped for the end of these segments. Were the interviews good? Was the timing good? Did it make less commercials during the race for the fans? I don't think the interviews were any... Did they interview the drivers in the cars when they were?

Yeah, and the crew chiefs. I would know that because I want a stage and heard my guy answer questions. Two. Yeah, my guy. Two stages. Yeah. I didn't know that because... I was going to win a stage yesterday.

I was going to win a stage yesterday, but... It was less commercial. I thought it was less commercials. You were missing a... But was it good for that? I mean, was it a good experience, a viewing experience? When I was watching the 500, it was a good... was a good viewing experience, mainly because most of the commercial breaks, they had the side-by-side,

so they still had the race on versus just having all commercial. Well, that's good. Yeah. I think it's good any time you can interview a driver in the middle of the race, like when you can get to them, and you can find out more of what's in their heads at the time. I think that's a plus. Yeah. Kristen, you're still running the show.

Oh, I thought you wanted my opinion. I'm just kidding. I thought you already gave it. I did. Did you go to watch the Daytona 500? I did. I watched it at the bar. Went to bad daddies.

That answers that. Bad daddy? We rode our bikes to the bar and we watched the 500. Yeah. It was good. You watched. No, that's why I was texting Josh. I was like, hey.

Like your Harley? The Daytona 500. You rode your Harley to the bar or the? Bicycle. Oh. Yeah. We have Sunday Fundy bikes. You guys don't get Sunday Funday.

Every day Sunday, Sunday for me. Oh, God. Spot on, spot off. Closing Pit Road prior to the end of the stage, Brett. I don't like this. I don't like this. I'm spot off on it. feel like the point of segments was to shake it up, and there's no reason to do that.

I mean, if we're at a Pocono, we're at a Sears Point, we're at a Daytona, we're at a Talladega, and you're running 11th, you can pit, not get lapped, and open up a lot of opportunities for the next stage. So I don't see the point in closing pit road when what we're trying to create is that craziness. Like, I feel like we're limited. Yeah. Yeah. You know, other places it's not going to matter. I mean, whether those clothes are open, they're not going to pay.

You're going to lose a lot. There's five tracks that matters. Well, you know, honestly, they probably do need to close it because if you don't close it when you're coming around to take the, when you're coming around to take the checker at that stage, people are going to hit it. They should be able to. Yeah, but I think then everyone's just going to do it,

and everyone's going to do the same thing. Tom 10 won't do it. They're going to take their points. I don't know, man. It's interesting. Go either way. I'm not real sure. Spot on, spot off.

Monster Energy Car wins that. He's 100, Kurt Busch. That's you. Next. You could say two words. Yay. That's one word.

I mean, this is great, man. I mean, Monster Energy has come in. They've brought 50 hot women. Did you see those chicks walking around the garage? Okay, I did see that. Oh, my God. They're naked in public. It's phenomenal.

Anyway, back to, I'm sorry. I got sidetrack. Monster Energy car. Daytona 500. Spot off. Kurt Busch is a great plate racer. Surprised. He'd never won one of these things, T.J. I mean, this guy's run second a lot. We've seen him lead a lot of laps. I had no idea in 30-plus starts. This would have been his first one. Here's the really cool thing about this, though. Two years ago, he was suspended from the Daytona 500. That wasn't that long ago. Here, this is a great comeback story. This guy comes back, ends up he's at that time affiliated with some

lunatic who has since had federal charges put against her. Yeah. It kind of discredits her an original claim. And I'm not getting into whether he did or didn't do anything. But what a comeback story for a guy that couldn't, wasn't allowed to run the damn race two years ago to come back and win it. Yeah, Kurt, I'm surprised he hasn't won one. He's usually in the ballpark, but just never able to break through.

So, you know, it's good to see Kurt do good. And, you know, it is a good story. It's always a good story when you got a first time winner. I just hope they bring that many girls every week. Spot on, spot off. The five-minute clock. Girls. What did you say?

The five-minute clock? The five-minute clock? I don't need that long. Here we go. You know, I hate that we were a casualty of it, but it did take away. There were less cars out there that were wrecked going around. It did take, I mean, it's going to save us money in the long run, too. we would have cut the whole front end out that car and put a new one on it and had to replace all that stuff.

I think, I don't know, it's a learning, and I'm sure they're going to adjust it a little bit, but I'm a little bit leaning towards it so far. I am spot off on this, and the reason I'm spot off is we don't see the clock. They didn't tell us how long we had with Elliot's car. The spotter doesn't see the clock. The crew chief doesn't see the clock. The driver doesn't see the clock. If I'm playing basketball, I have a 24-second shot clock that I can see.

If I'm the quarterback of an NFL team, I know when I have to hike the ball. I am right now the shot clock. I am right now the five-minute clock. Well, guess what, Brett is unofficial. So I don't know if my five minutes is close, not close. And then when we leave pit road, the clock stops. It suspends itself. And then when we re-enter pit road, it starts over.

So you're tasking me with the unofficial time that I don't have the ability to know if I'm on or not. So if you're going to have this rule, have something in place that gives us the telemetry of it so that we don't screw it up. Because it's just not fair to not know the official time. It was ridiculous. We had two officials in the one pit box, like slapping the side of our pit box yelling at Kevin to use his head. And we're all like, no one is telling us how much time we have. Our car chief Tyler's like, how much time do we have? And they weren't even ruling that to anyone in our pit box.

And what we as spotters are doing is we're on Channel 2 telling the crew chief four minutes, three minutes, 30 seconds. We're also having to predict how long it's going to take us to get from our pit box to the end of pit road. So I'm spot off on this solely because there is no five-minute clock. It's theoretical. And when you look at Daytona, when eight cars wreck at the same time, how in the hell can they police that? Unless it's official on our crew chief's monitor or on our fan vision, we're in a really, really, really big pickle. We need to see what they see. Yeah.

I mean, we do. We need to know what they see with their timer. We need to see it. I mean, there's the official timer. We should see it. I don't know how you can implement this and not give us the tool to say this is the live clock. I mean, I will say most of the time we know whether it's going to be fixed for not in five minutes. But, you know, sometimes there will be times when it gets close and you need to know your time.

They should be able to look at it. And, you know, okay, look at you got one minute, 30 seconds. Can you get it done? Yeah. No, there's something there is a ball broke. I'm not getting out there. We're done. Yeah, right.

So, but we, it shouldn't be that hard, you know, even if you could just look at the broadcast on the TV or something, they can see that. Even you can see a clock right there or something. You know, they got timing and scoring and they know how many laps from the race. They should be able to stick a timer next to the car on pit road. We got a message prior to the race. Actually, TJ delivered the message to me. It wasn't directly to me, but it basically was an official of NASCAR saying to us, hey, spotters, make sure you take stopwatches. Well, that's fine and dandy.

but are you going to go off on my stopwatch? Because that's all I got. Oh, you guys missed it. You're three seconds too late. Yeah, I was a little slow hitting a button by three minutes or something. Not on the watch you told me to take. So, again, give us something official. That's all I'm asking for.

Question. Once you go back, once you take your car into the garage, you're done, correct? No. Well, unless it's mechanical. Yeah, like you're facing like a transmission. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. That's just that something.

If you're in a wreck and taking into the garage, you're done. Let me just take two seconds to explain to you. So if we're in a wreck, if you hit the wall in Atlanta and you keep going, you're not on the five-minute clock. Okay, if you keep going and you maintain minimum speed, you're not on the clock at all. So when the yellow comes out, you can come sit on pit road for 20 minutes. It doesn't matter. Okay. If you're in a wreck, if you're in an incident, you brush the wall and you immediately come down pit road to fix the damage, you're on the five-minute clock.

Yeah. You have five minutes to get back out there. When you get back out there and you run minimum speed, it resets the clock you're no longer on it. So if the yellow comes out again and you come down pit road, you once again have unlimited time to work on your car. So I think that's the easiest way for hopefully you and everybody else to understand. That's what the five minute of the clock applies to. If you have body damage and you go behind the wall like Dale Jr. did yesterday, it's over. Your race is done.

If you have a mechanical issue like Josh was referencing a gear, a transmission or whatever, then you're able to go behind the wall. If you're leaking transmission fluid, you bring the yellow out, you coast in the pit. the coast of the garage, you can fix that and come back out. I'm going to say this, though, I'm really concerned at places like Daytona for that five-minute clock because yesterday we had an incident with David Reagan who hit the wall and he did not bring out the yellow and he goes and sits on pit road for five minutes. I'm concerned for the pit crew guys that don't have an outside retaining wall on pit road that are underneath that car and on that car working on it.

If all hell breaks loose and they wreck and they go toward pit road under green like that, I just hate those crew guys being exposed. I feel like that's something that needs to be addressed. Yeah, there's a few places like that, especially where we run packs like that. But you never know when somebody's going to spend out Atlanta. Texas. Texas, Atlanta.

Somebody can spend out of four. I've always been nervous and qualifying at them places just because they can slide down through their Charlotte, you know, when they do that, you never know, man. When you look at Michigan, when you look at Pocono, you look at Bristol-Martinsville, the pit crews have that outside wall protecting them when they go over the wall to do their job.

some of these tracks like Talladega and the ones T.J. just said, don't. So I'm concerned about the, we used to, we would go behind the wall and fix our car. Everybody was safe. Well, now we're not doing that. We got five minutes sit on pit road. That's a big risk, I think. I was confused because they interviewed Danica in the garage, and she said she was hoping her guys could make some good adjustments, and then they could go back out.

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I'm going to give you each a topic to debate. and I'm going to alternate who responds first. You're each going to get 30 seconds to voice your opinion, and then whoever responded first, it's going to get a rebuttal. You ready? Do we have a dinger this week? We have a dinger. The dinger.

TJ, you're going first. Okay. Daytona turned out to be a wreck fest for all three series. How do you fix that, or can you fix it? I don't think you fix it. I think it's just a product of the offseason, rookies, everybody antsy to race again. Just sometimes we have a, it's not the first time we've had rec fest at Daytona.

It happens, you know, then we go and have a, a good year, then everything will be fine. We'll come back. Won't change anything, it'll be a bad ear. It's just part of it and how it goes. This one tore up a lot of equipment. The question is, how do you fix it? Not should you fix it? The trucks, their bumpers need to line up. They need to be square in the front and square in the back. You can't have the least experienced drivers where when they touch each other, it automatically wrecks them. The Xfinity series, if you got hit in the back, that low rear downforce package we were running, made the rear the car shoot up. We saw the 22 wreck somebody. We saw the two wreck us. We saw the 24 wreck somebody.

Cup series, how do we stop it? There's two or three drivers that were out there just wreaking havoc, man. So I think you just got to get those two or three guys out of the race. Yeah, there was two or three that were involved in quite a bit of stuff. But yeah, it's just part of it, man. You know, guys got to learn. Sometimes you get more patient guys that come in. Sometimes you don't. But when you do have cup guys making a, you know, experienced guys making more mistakes, it is a little more, makes you wonder a little bit more. But I just think it's part of it. Team Ford seemed to work well together across all three series this past weekend, taking home wins in the Xfinity and the Cup series. What did they have that the other manufacturers

didn't, or were they just in the right place at the right time, Brett? Definitely in the right place at the right time. They won two out of three big races. I'm going to tell you what I think they had that everybody else did. And I think it's motor. I think their motors were strong. I mean, we were around RCR and some guys in the cut race yesterday. And I think we were out motoring some with them guys. Yeah, I just think right place, right time. I don't think there's any special formula for this. We saw guys that were supposed to be really strong, struggle to get up there. We didn't see the dominant race by Brad, Joey, and Danny, and Dale Jr. that we normally see. I think just, you know, it was hard to do, and even across all series, it was hard to get up there.

So I just think they were right place, right time. I said last week, Ford had the advantage going in the race. I don't know if y'all remember that. But you go back to last. week's show. Ford had the advantage going into Daytona, and they pulled it off. Two out of three, Doug Gates' horsepower, big part of that. Does NASCAR need more two-day shows, TJ? I would say probably, but I haven't really been involved enough of them yet to really know if it's going to, you know, people that like to go to the races, if they're going to disapprove of it more. You know, some people like to go to them races on Friday. I'd like to make a long weekend out of it in camp. So I'm not 100% sure yet.

Yes, we need more two-day shows. We got seven two-day shows that are going to be added to the schedule this year. I look at Daytona and I look at the Thursday night crowd, pitiful. I look at the Friday night truck crowd, pitiful. Saturday, slammed, Sunday, slam. Take those two days, blow it out. And obviously, Daytona is an exception of what I'm saying. But in general, I think two-day shows get people more excited.

Yeah, it's hard to judge it off of Daytona, though. I mean, you've got three series running, too, so it's hard to make a basis off that. But, yeah, I mean, I don't think two-day shows are bad. I think it might be the wave of the future, and it might make the racing more, you know, just might make it more not so drug out. Yeah. I mean, look, dude, if I'm a fan, and I know we're going over on our time here, but if I'm a fan, I should get to see qualifying in the race.

You know what I mean? Like Pocono is going to roll out this really cool schedule where on race. day you're going to be able to watch the cars qualify and then watch them race man that's what we all did short track racing growing up you know we went to the track Saturday morning we stay there all freaking day we race that night you practice you qualified you did your driver's meeting and so I think this is an opportunity to change the culture a little bit and again I mean we've got a what worries me is we got a place like Phoenix and there are a hundred thousand

RVs sitting out there and we run a truck race and nobody's in there watching if I run that damn racetrack I'm gonna go out in that parking lot. And I'm going to say, Kristen, why are you at your RV at the racetrack and not in the racetrack watching this race? There's a reason. I don't know what it is, but you've got to figure it. If you're a track promoter, get out from behind your computer, walk out in the campground and ask them, why are you not in the racetrack watch? They're going to go to the big show. But what do you got to do to get them in these other shows? And I think a two-day schedule allows us for those people to be able to afford that. Well, it's one less ticket you probably have to buy.

Yeah. Two. So a lot of people make it late. Yeah, so if you have your family. Yeah, so I'm sure. Elliot Sadler and Johnny Sotter both won their first two stages of the races and got great bonus points for the championship. Were you surprised to see multiple stage winners in the cup race, Brett? Yeah, I mean, I was surprised to see multiple stage winners to T.J's point a few minutes ago. We typically have three or four guys that are really good at taking the lead in the cup race and managing the lead. And it is Brad Caslowski, Joy Lugano.

I think Chase Elliott had the best car yesterday, just watching how he maneuvered traffic, but I was surprised to see multiple stage winners. Yeah, I kind of thought the same thing. I thought somebody, you know, some guys would get dominant, but they weren't. They were able to get up there and get runs on them, and everybody was kind of able to flex some muscle a little bit, and, you know, even it could have been anybody. So I was a little surprised. I thought we would see some dominant.

I thought we could get up front maybe or the 11. It would be hard to get back around him, but I'd be. didn't we kept swapping it quite a bit so there's going to be a big emphasis on this tony stewart came on our radio yesterday and said clint you need to try to get bonus points and clint said i'm not worried about bonus points this is a dayton of 500 tony then said sadler yet led both segments yesterday wrecked dn f and left here third points we got to be thinking bonus points already so there's an emphasis being put on it it's going to create a lot of excitement but to your point i'm still surprised elliot led both segments in the in the infinity race i was the

kind of expecting the same thing in the cup race didn't happen. The off-the-wall topic, if you could pick one driver in NASCAR to be in a boy band, who would that driver be? And why, T.J. 100 and 10% James McMurray. Why? He just looks it already. Yeah.

I mean, you know, one medium shirt and, you know, I think... Shmedium? Yeah, one Shmedium, and he's in, man. Yeah. I mean, can you not... You could sub him into the Backstreet Boys right. now. Right now. Right now. I don't think Jamie can dance. I didn't say he could dance. I'm just saying he just fit. He looks the part. Yeah. I don't know. He can, he can somewhat dance. I mean, I've seen him

dancing Cabo before. I'm going to actually lean on TJ's recommendation because he looks like he knows a lot about the entertainment business. I'm going to say we make a duo and we put Landon Castle with him because Landon has his own swag. You know, he wears the he wears the skinny jeans. But can he sing or even act like he can dance either? Jamie's least got some energy. Yeah. Plan is more like, hello, it's me. Adele?

Yeah. He's like he doesn't have that energy. Jamie looks like he's had, you know, 12, 12 kickstarts. Yeah. You know, and he's ready to go. Do you see his heart rate? Yeah. That's crazy.

It's like, I mean, yeah, he's ready. It's like you're on a marathon. Yeah. Heart rate 150. Have you ever looked at yours? I started looking to mine a little. bit. Yeah, yeah.

My own got up to, my own got up to 87, and I don't know what it did when we crashed because I didn't go back and look, but my, that's the highest it got? 87 when we're taking the lead. I don't know if you got to do that this one. In the, I was leading the 500. You did my favorite thing this weekend, multiple times. What? One back, two back, quarterback, quarterback, half back.

Who you got? It's hypnotizing. What boy band do you have, Chris? Oh, man. A driver. Yeah. That's funny about Jamie McMurray. Um

Am I wrong? No No Everyone else is kind of like Dad-ish I mean Clint would be a country singer Yeah Who's a rapper Denny?

Denny or like Blaney Yeah Blaney's heavy metalish though Yeah Ryan Blaney He's not Yeah he doesn't fit the boy band He's got great hair

He's got great hair Lannon's like a female A male Adel Adele or whatever Yeah I think Michael Waltrip would like to be in a boy band. He's too tall.

He's too old, too. Come on, man. You got to do better. The back street boys are all pushing 50. Casey Kane could have been into kids on the block 10 years ago. If he would talk. Yeah.

But he's real shy. Yeah. So. Kyle Larson can be in a boy band. Yeah, maybe. What about the dinger? There is, oh, God, I'm mighty.

He would crash the fan, Josh. He would crash the whole stage. My favorite thing about Kyle Larson is when he does, he says, like, Asian, jokes on Twitter. I love that. I mean, we can... He can do that.

He's Asian. I'm looking at this list, and I'm sitting here thinking... There's this guy on Twitter that makes fun. He's a white guy. Obviously, he's like, things of white people do. You know, like, I love, I love that kind of stuff. That humor to me is awesome. Yeah, I think we've not...

I think we've got most of them there. I mean, I... The Dylan boys? They could do a duo. Austin and Ty? Yeah, no. Yeah, no. All right.

So, producer, producer, Amish Josh, has chosen a few hashtag ask DBC questions off of the Twitter. We're going to start with Plummer Daver 1, who asks, is the 500's aggressive racing result of stages or first race adrenaline? Both to me. People want to win the Daytona 500 and the stages. You just said the Daytona 500? The Daytona 500.

So to me it's both. You got guys who want bonus points and you got guys that want to win the race. And you got guys that want to go four wide and you've got guys that want to hit each other. Yeah, you got tires that don't want to stay on wheels. Yeah, they got lap 60. Let's wreck, buddy. Come on, let's go. Okay, yeah.

Let's get this over with. Yeah, I'm a T.J. At Tornow 10 asks, was Jamie McMurray aggressive or reckless, according to the other drivers? I'm not sure what other drivers were saying. I think I was more, I think I was in an airplane at the time. But to me, watching it a little both, like, we don't need to go four wide. We know who the aggressive drivers are before the race. He hung us early, and to me he was aggressive.

Actually, Dale Jr. came on our radio and started hollering to me about him. He's like, his potter's a effing moron. Yeah. Because we were pushing Kyle and Jamie come out there and started pushing us. That usually wrecks the car in the middle. Right. So he was screaming about that. And honestly, that's something that we all know that you can't do.

You got to know better than that. You got to know the car in front of you is on the car in front of him. That's the huge, like, that's the main thing. I actually didn't do it for a lap and he was like, are you going to effing spot? I'm like, okay, buddy, well, he's clear by one or front of them. So, push. And that sucks for us, man, because you got to spot the back,

you got to spot the front. I mean, you hear what we do. I mean, it's on him, he's not on him. He's half car length off of him. But it's big, though. It's huge in your lane if you can help guys and push and stuff. So, but I do feel like, I do feel like Jamie was both of that a little bit.

I mean, we, four wide's, four wise not aggressive. Four wise reckless. Yeah. I don't care of you are. Judge to move down the backstretch when he hooked Chase Elliott. Chase Elliott got very lucky because he hit another car, and that car corrected him and pointed him forward. Jamie just misjudged that.

So I think a lot of fans are pissed off. I haven't even seen that yet. I think a lot of fans are pissed off that their driver got wrecked in that deal. And Jamie didn't do that on purpose. So, I mean, that was an accident. And that's what plate racing is, you know. At James Wagner, TWS, all things considered should the clash be run in the day or the night, Saturday or Sunday?

I thoroughly enjoyed a Sunday morning clash. I'm not going to lie. I think it's a reason to come out to the track Sunday. You come watch the clash, you go watch your guy qualify, make a day of it. I think run it during the day. And again. Even Saturday. I'm fine with Saturday.

I think speed week should be speed week. I think we should start on Tuesday and go to Sunday and not go two days, take three days off, go four days. I think we should start. I mean, there's a short track down in Florida called New Smyrna, and they raced every freaking day for 10 days. and it was super late models. It was modified. I mean, it was something nonstop. And I think that's fun.

And I would prefer to see us get on the track on Tuesday and practice, you know, run the clash Wednesday during the day, run the duels on Thursday during the day. Like, let's just keep racing once we get there. Yeah, I kind of like it being two weeks, so I kind of like it with one little break in there. I like going and doing the class with all the guys. You should take all the fastest guys from last year and put them in a little race.

You should put them in there, have a little race. But it's cool because people go from track to track. Like people will be like, I'm leaving the big track, going on a little track. And I think it's cool to have that option. And, you know, you got some people that come home. Like I came home, you know, a handful people came home. Some stay down there and go race and they like to go.

It gives them a, to me, it gives them guys a break to go and do, like if they're love short track racing, it gives them an opportunity to go there and check that stuff out and Cefranz. Volusia's there. They do dirt track. I mean, it's great. I like Speed Weeks. But I do think the duel should be back in the day,

and I think the clash should be Saturday or Sunday before qualifying. The only thing that scares me about Sunday before qualifying is a video. It is raining, you've got to fit two things in there. You know, if you got Saturday, you got all Saturday night and then Sunday morning still. So to me, maybe we just run the clash on Saturday. I may be dumb, but I always said I really wish we would go and put the clash on TV if we're going to run it on a separate weekend the day of the Super Bowl and run it at 12 o'clock because people are already ready to drink and party and they're already at bars

and run it like that day at noon. And then the next weekend, do your Daytona 500 right after the Super Bowl. Nobody listens to me. At Timbo Slice asked, why did they run up top so long and not try to form a bottom line? We were moving up because Del Jr., it was smoother up there, and it was easier. You didn't have to put as much wheel into it off the corner, and there were some handling issues, and it was easier. When you come off the bottom off of four, it gets real tight.

You have to put a lot of wheel to the car. And when you got a little wheel on the car, when it straightens out, if you don't have that wheel out of it, then there's an opportunity for the car to snap on you. So that's why everybody was moving up. It's just easier handling the wider radius, less turning the car, just makes it easier. Yeah, I'm a T.J. I mean, it just comes down to strategy, you know, and it comes.

A lot of guys made a lot of mistakes in the fact that they wrecked out. You know, it's up to the driver. It's up to the spotter. And to some degree, it's up to the crew chief to formulate a strategy to finish the damn race. And we didn't do that. You know, Dell Jr. didn't do that because of circumstance. We didn't do that because we opted to be in the middle of four. wide going into three and we didn't make it four wide but nonetheless people around us did and we wrecked out so it took away our chance to win the race and when you when you get up there and ride single file you eliminate the real you don't eliminate it but you reduce the risk for wrecking and and there's a there's that's a good thing when you're running a 500 mile race I think a I think a lot of fans though had questions on the fuel mileage right so if you're running the high line you're obviously running a longer way around the track and what did Jeff

Gordon say about that. I heard that. That was, he was very surprised that they weren't running the low line. Yeah. If there were fuel concerns. Yeah. And there's two things to that. Number one, it's the length.

Number two, I felt like, and Elliot felt like when you're running the top that late in the race, you're more vulnerable to lose the lead because they can form a lot of things underneath you easier than they can outside of you, you know? So I was, I was surprised, again, just watching the replays when I got home last night, they weren't on the bottom for both those reasons. Yeah, more people get hung on the, more people get hung on, you know, I would rather have somebody get inside me than I would outside me. Yeah. Because when they're on the inside, you know, the inside line is they go down to that yellow line.

They're basically pinned there. Yeah. And they're at your mercy. When you got the outside, it just seems to keep it rolling better. And it's easier to get, it's easier to. Dale Jr. said you could get a better run off of turn two on the high side. Well, Dale Jr. was running turn two differently than everybody else, too. Well, he was painting the wall.

Most guys were half a car width off the wall. late late exit, Dale Jr. was still up against the wall like he will in Atlanta this week. He went, I kept telling Chase that as well. He's like, tell Chase to get up here, man, you get a better run. I was telling Clint, hey, look, watch what this ADHD's doing off too because he's getting a better run. But Dale Jr. was running a turn two completely different than anybody else was. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. He was running that race. I saw things that I really like. We just told everybody else that now. Well, it wouldn't matter. He was running that race exactly how I would have wanted him run. He was

setting himself up to be in good position. And he was. He knew a lot of things. He was very comfortable with the car. Yeah. And that's good for him, you know, to be like that. So I was really excited for the end. It didn't happen. Yeah.

You guys have anything to ran about today? Mine was the five-minute clock. Was it? Mm-hmm. I kind of want, I don't like the, I was thinking about after the Xfinity race there, they need to really, we either need to just be able to push or not push. Yeah. Like, like nothing against Elliott, but he's figured that out.

Yeah. He knows how to push for a quarter track at a time, and he'll knock that guy all the way to the lead, and that guy goes to the bottom, then guess what? Hell he's leading. Yeah. Like, why doesn't anyone else do this? Yeah. Like, I don't, because, number one, he doesn't get in trouble.

No one ever yells at him. Number two, like, it gets the lead. He gets up there. He gets track position. Meanwhile, we're all about there. Get off him, get off him, get off him. You know, and then we either need to be able to just push and do it and go. Yeah.

I think we should just be able to push. It's gotten harder with this rules package. I mean. But it still works. pushing. Oh, it still works. It still works in CUP. It's just, it's gotten harder. My rant is media-based. There was an article in a finance paper last week that basically blasted the health of our sport. Right. That had facts from seven years ago. And the article was written as a news article, when in reality, a lot of it was opinion. I think that's BS. I mean, when you watch the president

get so mad at liberal news media and fake news and all these people go, well, he shouldn't refuse this to the press and that to the press. Like I was kind of in line with them, actually thinking that. And then I see this article come out where Roger Penske wasn't quoted, where Joe Gibbs wasn't quoted, where Rick Hendrick wasn't quoted. And some of those guys were reached out to and gave their opinion. And you elected to not put it in the article the other side of it. And they basically said our sport is not helped.

Hey, guy, let me tell you something. Joy Lugano just signed a seven-year contract. That's a big deal. We just signed a new sponsor. That's a big deal. When you look at the Daytona 500, 100 and 100 and 1,500 people were at that race. The day before, there were 100,000 people when you count the infield. Where's your article about that?

Where is that part of it, man? So I'm a very biased article. and I feel like this guy almost had a personal vendetta against Brian France. There's a lot of things about Brian France that you certainly can state for fact, but it appeared to me this guy was just trying to attack him, you know, and then trying to take a shot at our sport. And the sad thing about that is, you know, we got CFOs and CEOs who read that. And then they go, wow, is this true, which puts Kristen and me and Josh, you know,

in a position where we have to refute it and we have to be able to say, you know, actually it's not true. and here's reasons why. But the good news is we have billionaires who are very successful people, Rick Hendrick, Roger Penske, again, that are supporting the sport and saying, hey, this is why they're wrong. So Rick Hendrick isn't able to employ 550 people because this sport sucks. He's able to employ 550 people because we attract enough corporate sponsorship

to be able to run our business. So talk to that guy and ask him if he thinks it sucks because it's not sucking for him at all. Talk to Gene Haas. Ask him if he thinks it sucks. He just won the Daytona 500. Yeah, he's probably not even up yet. One million, no. He probably haven't went to bed yet.

No. This guy won millions of dollars yesterday. How did he win off of, you know, people, fans? Not to mention, he won a lot of money yesterday, but he also won the biggest race in America. Yes. In the world, maybe. Yeah. So, he won the Daytona 500.

So, you know, it would be nice for people to be like, oh, look, sponsors are getting back involved in NASCAR. Where's your article about that? Yeah. So, yeah, I agree with you. Somehow I agree with him. I love the media. I mean, I got a lot of friends in the media. They all do a tremendous job, work their guts out.

I feel like sometimes opinions and there's biased and there's agendas. And this is one of those times where I just don't agree with the way it was presented and a lot of the stuff that was in there, especially when a guy like Joe Gibbs says, I was called, I gave quotes, none of them were used. Dude, this guy's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Daytona 500 champion. He's freaking Joe Gibbs, and you didn't include him in your art. article why not because you had an agenda that's bull-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. Yeah, I'll roll with you on that.

We're going to his house. Let's go. What's his name? We can pull him up. Could, yeah. It was you, wasn't it in the Wall Street Journal or something? It was the Wall Street Journal finance section. We'll get his phone number and we'll tweet that Estelle Jr's phone number. Let's blow him up. Let's do it. How do we ring him off the hook. Yeah, Josh. I'm just Josh. Josh. He's up technology. Josh talk there in Leicester. All right, so TJ won the DBC picks with his Brendan Gone pick. He finished 11th, yes, this weekend. I let that sink in.

I beat you with Brendan Gawn. It sucks. It's off to a good year. I love people with names like that. Is Brendan gone? He gone. Nope. Have you known Johan alone?

I love that. Is there any other good ones? TJ, start your pick because. No, I actually pick second. I got to go first. Yeah. I'm just telling you to be thinking. Get your straight person.

There's this other person I was told about this week, named Helen Waite. You ever heard of her? So if somebody's complaining, they say, go find Helen Waite. Yeah. Go to Helen Waite. I get it. I get puns.

Atlanta. Oh, man. You got bro. I know. I'm in behind. I think this first time I've ever been behind. You don't like to play catch up, man. He's going to shoot high here.

No. Don't get two on your high horse here. You suck last year. You should pick Carl Edwards. I'm not going to shoot high at all. I'm Carl Edwards. freebie. I feel like that's a lock. I think the strongest mile and a half guy last year was Chase Elliot. I really do. Wow, you're going to use him up? I didn't say Chase Elliott. I said I feel like

he was the best mile and a half guy. But we got a whole new rules package that none of us know nothing about. Taking a Stuart Hosk guy would be the biggest gamble because they've switched manufacturers don't know a lot about their bodies in terms of having them actually on the racetrack. So you've got a look at your your strengths here which is probably Kevin Harvick but he's in that Stuart Haas realm so I'm gonna go out on limb here we got 25 weeks left and Casey Kane's got to go it's go time I got you son of that that was gonna be my pick sorry man I got ESP in and I knew that because well that was his last win too so and he's been he's had a lot of top 10th in the last year and he came off he ran good in the 500 ran good at

these finnies, so he's carrying a little momentum. He's got to go to. So, man, son of a gun. You know, I'm going to take, I'll take Ty Dillon. World record timing right there. I'll take Ty. Ty. Ty Dillon.

Awesome show today, guys. I got to go. Why, you got a pee, don't you? Yeah. He looks like he has to pee. He does. I got a peece up out. I got cold chills.

And he got a shower, man. I did shower this morning. You smell like can't fire. Holla. Good show. Thanks to one May Financial. Peace. Kristen, good to see you.

Bye, Brat. Bye, Brat. See you. You've been listening to Door Bumper Clear, brought to you by One Main. For updates on Elliot Sadler and the number one junior motorsports team, go to OneMainRacing.com. Thanks for listening to Dirty Mo Radio.