Door Bumper Clear - 50 - Leaning Tower of Paris

Episode Date: March 20, 2017

With Brett gone, TJ and KB welcome Spotter Josh Williams to the show to talk Phoenix and answer #AskDBC questions. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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and you're listening to Dirty Moe radio. Outside, door, bumper, clear of the 18th, best car ahead here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you, you're clear. Check the flag. You're win. Oh, yeah! Hey, everybody, I'm T.J. Majors. Spot of the 88 Cup car, the 7 winning Xfinity car, and a 29 truck. Hey, guys, it's KB, live from Exalted Studios.

And today, we have a special guest because Brett decided to go to me. Montana where there's no cell service. Hey, everyone. I am Josh Williams, spotted for Ryan Blaney in the XFIT series and the Xfinity series. Josh, we don't say that word.

That's a good point. We do not say that word. That's a bad word. I forgot until I was already into it. Can you beep it out? Oh, yeah. Just don't cut it out. Just beep that part out.

Because people need to know he's a moron still. Okay. I need one. Oh, how nice of you? But since Brett's not here, I would like to thank one main financial for the awesome opportunity to do this podcast. And we are currently sitting in, Josh.

Do you know what studio we are sitting in? We're in the Exalta studio. Who's behind you? Dale Earnhardt Jr. Do you like that? Yeah, it's awesome. It's really close, though. He's watching you.

He doesn't have a head on that one picture, though. I feel like yesterday he's a little bit closer with his eyes with him. He's mad at me. Maybe, so anyway, yeah, that'll be good for the BS session. Well, can you? I wish we could take the clip of, of Ryan yesterday being all angry at the 88. Let's just beat for like 15 seconds, and that's pretty much the clip.

I'm trying to figure out when he was mad at us, because the one time that he started passing us, we just let him go. It was after that. We tried to pass you for like five or six laps after the start. That you didn't try to pass us. The first time you got there, he let you go. The second time. The first time, yes, you're right.

We never race you side by side. No, we were just, you were holding up like six people. Oh, so you weren't fast enough? with the problem. Yeah, pretty much. We were close, though. And then we burned our stuff up. That's not our fault.

I'm with you. Should have burned up more. Well, we burned it up enough for Jimmy to get by us, and then Jimmy got to you, and you, like, pulled over, like, hands away. We didn't pull over. He got, he was fast. He was faster than you. Were you guys talking up top on the spotter stand?

We don't really talk about that stuff. You don't have time to run down and be like, oh, well, Josh isn't going to come telling me that, you know, Ryan thinks my driver is a dumb ass or something. He's not going to, I mean, it's just not something you do. Now, if you, sometimes you have legitimate, like, hey, this is the plan here. This is what we're trying to do. Sometimes you have legitimate stuff.

Or, you know, the 31 caught us running the top side. And as soon as I told Del Jr., I said, hey, he's like five back in his running. He's going to turn one like he's missing the corner and just shooting up the racetrack and then turning and going again. And I told Del Jr. that. So Del Jr. went down there and just ran that line. And it's exactly what the 31 would have done if you caught him. and I actually, we only did it for a lap, but I thought it was kind of cool because when you run guys down, like the one and the 31, not to mention any numbers, they will move their line to where you are running simply so you cannot pass them.

And that is a frequent occurrence every week. But you don't really go down there and be like, excuse me, sir, your driver, my driver thinks your driver is a dumb ass. So for anyone who's listening who didn't, who doesn't know what you guys are talking about, what happened between Dale? And Ryan. When was it during the race? Just one of them longer runs. Like, nothing really happened. Ryan just couldn't get around us.

He never, Del Jr. is the type, if you run him down, and yesterday we were probably running between 7th and 12th most of the day. When you run him down, when you get position on him, it's hard to get position on people. When you get a bumper there, he lets you go. But until you do that, it's not, he's not just going to be like, oh, hey, there you are, you're three back.

Go ahead. That's kind of the rule of how it goes. if you get position on a guy, instead of racing side by side, just let the guy go, he's faster, and you'll get that back later. Well, Ryan never really got to that point. It was really harder to get to that point. And I feel like their car was not quite as strong of that run as it had been. It was better before.

And he never could get to that point, so he thought we were beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. And Ryan, I know he doesn't mean any of it because he's good dude, you know, but when he puts his helmet on, he gets a little angry sometimes. Yeah, so the whole story was our track bar gesture just broke the run before that. So that's our fault. No, but we were upset. So our blood pressure was a little high. As he said, he needed to pull some tape. Maybe the guy that advantaged your track bar softs the dumb.

I'm just saying. Maybe he was taking his anger out on Dale Jr. because of that guy. Maybe I'll need some more quality production. The control maybe, I don't know. It's okay. It's just saying, man. So Junior didn't do anything wrong. He was just holding up a few people on the restart, which he has all the right to do.

Well, normally if it's one guy and you're on his bumper, he'll let you go after a few laps. But if he let us go, there's five people behind us. So he was protecting his ground like he should. So Ryan was just frustrated the whole situation. And we were only good for 20 laps since our track bar adjuster was broke. So have to take his anger out on somebody. Oh, yeah. Should it call out in front of us?

We did. Should have stayed there. We didn't. That's not my problem. How'd you guys finish? How'd Ryan finish? We ended up 23rd. Yeah, we weren't far in front of them.

We had a speed penalty. Yeah, we didn't have any penalties. How about that Xfinity race? Should have got four. Four ended up worth. I've been telling them ever since that race ended. Even before we went back green there at the end, I think I might have told them that they should have got four tires. In the Xfinity series, there's especially at a race like Phoenix.

There's not that many. You don't have a, You don't have as many. A lot of cup guys took that race off. Like there wasn't a lot of, you know, Kyle wasn't in there. You didn't have Brad. But, you know, you had Blaney and Austin Dillon, which are a cup guys now, but they're still young. So you didn't have all this experience to run against and race against like you normally do.

And if you have a fast car, I believe the 22 is the best car in the long run. And I think the seven was the best car in the short run. but if you put, you know, you can't, to me, if you have the fastest car, you should just get four because you only have to beat, especially if you know the short run car is probably getting four. You know what I mean? You should probably get four tires. So he thinks they still should get two, but I don't know how you can think that would. It didn't work.

I think it would have worked, but we lost a lot of traves. It was proven not to work. It was our best chance to win because it was going to be short runs with the cautions probably. So you should need a four? No. The fastest car has four. How do you not need four? Well, we came out of front of you, so if we would have maintained that position to the restart.

We lost it all, the first lap of the restart. Who's fault that? It was probably mine because we were three wide. Should have got four. You got how to kill our car, though. Our car was really good, yeah. It took us 15 or 20 laps to get going, and then I thought we could run down the seven. But the seven was really strong on the short run.

Dang, that seven was a rocket. That's probably going to be doubled now that we had four tires, and you only had two. Oh, my gosh. Get off the tires. Oh, it's been three days now. It's okay. Yeah, it should have got four, man. You'd have been spraying shaming.

Shoulda coulda water. Anyway. So. So you had a rocket ship. I had a happy engineer at home. Yeah. It was exciting. Yeah.

I make cookies, by the way, so they're in the engineering hall. So I read the, you know the other engineer on that car? Shoemate. Yeah. Yeah. So I read his comments. Like, when I do going to the cup hauler, I read him every week. Other post-race analysis?

Yeah. Yeah. Just how stuff went, like, and, um, I. So now every week I'm going to remind Shumate that he puts comments in there like, oh, TJ went down here and said we should try to run the middle or whatever. And it didn't work as usual. So now coming to the green, we're going down to backstash. I'm like, all right, Justin, we're coming to the green here.

You know, I'd probably just roll down here and run the middle. What do you think, Ryan? And he never tossed on the radio, but I know he heard me. So I didn't see any good. His decision was it to run at the bottom? What's that? Whose decision was it to run at the bottom? When?

I'm just talking like when we go to tracks like Atlanta or something, you're always looking for a place to go. Right. And normally nine times out of ten, the bottom is not where you want to go. You just get jammed up and then people get runs behind you. Then on the backstretch, you're the guy hung out. So I'm a big fan of not running the bottom really anywhere. Even when you go to like a Las Vegas, you know, we had a run through the middle one time and Austin Dillon about wrecked the field when it came down on us. but I'm a big fan and Justin had to lift there,

but I'm a big fan of not getting trapped on the bottom. The bottom was bad again this weekend if you were in the front row. You were going to come out, and, you know, we were hoping to be fourth on the initial start in the cup race. We started third. We were hoping to be fourth that week because they just get them runs, and you can't so much faster. So I'm going to make sure I let Ryan know every week

that I'm reading his post-race notes and comments and stuff throughout the race. And he's more than welcome to try to spot if he's. like to. You should just make better suggestions and he would agree with you. Well, I'm trying to figure out how many races he spotted. Probably zero. No wins, no Daytona 500s. I'm just wondering how many races he spotted or done anything different than, you know. Were you concerned at all about the restarts with all the cautions at the end of that race? No, I wasn't really, well, you never know what's going to happen. Because you had Blaney on your ass. Yeah, I wasn't worried about Blaney at all. I didn't even know

any of that was going down until after the race. So I wasn't really worried about Blaney. And Blaney had bigger problems at that point in time. So, you know, at that point, we were in the cup race. Are you talking about, like, the cup race? Mm-mm. Xfinity. Oh. With Justin.

You know, we were really good on the short run, so I really wasn't, I was just worried about getting clear of them guys as quick as we could. Sometimes Austin gets out front, he can be hard to pass. And Eric Jones wasn't too bad, but Austin can make it really difficult sometimes. And he's the type of guy that you could clear, and then he'll cross you over and come back. It's just annoying sometimes, but, you know, I don't know. I was more worried about just getting as big a lead as we could because I knew if it did string out. And we had it, when it went green, we actually got out front really quick. And we were, we were, what, leading and you

were, like, fourth or something. Yeah. I felt really good about that scenario there because I knew the 22, I knew the two was going to race the 22 really hard. And, and, uh, it was going to be tough to make up all that ground. So, um, I really wasn't nervous about it. But I was more nervous about the last, is that, you talking about the very last restart? Yep. Yeah, I was a little nervous about that. I was nervous about that. Because you just never know.

Somebody's going to miss the corner a little bit and get it. All the takes is one little, Larson should have won that race, but you got to know it at Stenhouse, and it cost them four or five car lengths, and that was the difference. So in the cup race. But were you nervous?

Yeah, how was Ryan after the race, too? The Exfendi race? Yeah. No, we just, we need a little bit longer run to get by some of those guys since we didn't have that track position. You need more speed. We need more tires, right?

In the beginning. And well, which would have been tires. Josh, let's talk a little bit about you for a hot sec. Anyone that doesn't know you on the, that's listening to the podcast, although they should. Give us the frequent visitor of the cookout at about midnight, right? It was 2 o'clock last night. It was the 30-second rundown. I considered it.

I did not go. It was out of the way. I normally go. That would have been perfect if you'd went. Did you have to put your house address in your phone last night when you were on the way home? No, I made it. I made it last night. I wasn't that tired. I slept on the plane. Have you not found your house after a race?

Yeah, so embarrassing story. After Daytona, I don't know about TJ, but it takes a lot. Yes, a month ago. It takes a lot out of me. So I was pretty mentally drained. Well, we wrecked. That's a good point. Well, I was pretty fresh. You're already home at this point. That was probably home, yeah. Well, I was wore out. So I stayed up on the flight home, landed, and I literally forgot how to get to my house in the airport. So I had to put Yeah Didn't From Statesville?

I was driving on the way home And I'm like Where do I turn? Like spun out Where do you live? I live up in Moresville Oh okay On the property

In Morson He lives right here Right by the 76th Pretty close that So I had to put my house address In my phone to get home It was embarrassing Loser

I would say though Coming from Statesville Airport There's a couple of those backroads If you miss one of the turns, I've ended up where I didn't know where I was before and had to figure it out. So, I mean, there's a lot of dark backroads over there. It is. You go through that scary town of Troutman. It's scary up there, man.

You get a red light there. You're in trouble, man. I run that in midnight. Josh. Where are you from? How did you get started and spotting? I am from Martinsville, Virginia. You love hot dogs.

You and 13 others. They're all family. Yeah, I love pink hot dogs. I don't like those Frank deals. Okay. And from Martin's, though, geez. Started spot and I was friends with a bunch of drivers and people in NASCAR, and Scott Speed actually needed a spotter.

And that's how I got into it. He wanted me to basically travel and play golf with him. Was that when he was at Rebel? That was right after he left Rebel. We became friends when he was there, and then when he left, started running some smaller stuff I needed. He wanted me to help him. So T.J. is actually one of the first people that kind of helped me.

Show me the ropes, which is probably why I'm spun out now. Maybe I might have helped Scott, too, because he asked me about you. Where's my cut? Where's my cut? I'm here for free. Where's my cut? We all are. That's not true.

Yeah, you guys are on salary. It's true. Josh and I are salary, and you guys get money for doing this. It's great. And all the water you can drink. Lots of water. Normally, T.J. brings Chick-fil-A. So he must not run.

like you today. I showed up like five minutes late because, number one, I couldn't find my car keys. I had no idea where they were at. Same car you drove last night? No, I got a ride home. My car stayed. I flew out of Concord and came back in the Statesville. So I got a ride and we were showing our house to sell it.

And everything gets shuffled around and put places and somebody moved my car keys. Yeah, I'm not going to name any names on that. There's two people. who could have moved to car keys. Yeah, and I'm not going to blame my daughter. Yeah, and then, so I don't know if you've met our new dog, have you? I'm not. He's sweet.

Okay. Kylo. Kyle. Yeah, he's the same breed as the other one, but he's, he's, you're a, your driver would call him an 88 car yesterday. So I let him out, and he just keeps looking at me, and I know he's got to go to the bathroom. him. And he won't go. He looked at looking at me. Maybe he got stage freight.

Yeah, he's gunshot. Okay, so I walked back inside, and then he comes back in. I'm like, I saw him come down off the hill and he's like, no, no, you got to go back out. So I really had to wait for him. That's why I was a few minutes late. I almost brought him, but I'm not going home from here. That was the least exciting story I've ever heard in my time. It wasn't supposed to be exciting.

Wake up, Josh. All right, we're going into spot on, spot off. You guys ready? No. Josh Williams, Josh T. Williams. What's the T stand for? Tyler. Tyler.

Josh, Tyler. Are you a Joshua? Are you like Josh? It's just Josh. Oh, it's Joshua. I'm a Joshua. Yeah. So we got a Joshua and a Josh E.

By the way, your sister was awesome yesterday. I saw your sister. She's amazing. She was awesome. She looks phenomenal for having a child. I agree. Okay. Me too.

She gave me a rise on the golf crash day, so she was awesome. Hey, Josh gave me a ride the other day too. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, thanks. I wasn't at the track yet. Sorry. I pointed Josh in the right direction. the good breakfast sandwich too.

Spot on, spot off. Record high temperatures and Phoenix. Go ahead, Josh. You're a little thicker. Spot on. I lost. That's real funny. Spot on because I got a tan and lost some weight.

You really consider that literally burning calories? Yeah, absolutely. Did you see my Strava workout? You're on Saturday? Yeah, did you see my workout? No, I didn't know you were on that. So me and Jimmy and, like, Delt you're, I've been on it for a long time, but then Dale Jr. has been on it, and he's got Jimmy and Casey and all these guys, and they are putting workouts in there, like, running for like 20 miles, and then riding for 60 and stuff.

So I put it in there my workout on Saturday. I did two practice. This is a qualifying session and exfini race, you know, like a couple hundred miles or whatever, and it took me four hours and 30 minutes. Oh, I am following you. Yeah. How many colors are you burned in that? Oh, your update in Strava is spotted all day, 100 miles, four hours, 30 minutes. minute. Yeah. Did you read a comment? Scroll down. Read my description.

Spot at two practices in a qualifying session. About to do an Xfinity race, I'm effing lazy, damn it. That was my workout. That's ridiculous. I killed yesterday's too. Yeah, it was hot. Spot off for the hot in Phoenix. One good news is, is they were probably going to have the same spotter stand when they do all their additions and stuff, but it was brought up to maybe put some sort of little roof over that thing. Nice. So that'll be pretty cool. Let's hope and pray.

It was hot as a hail. Phoenix, please, if you're listening. Thanks for the water. Yeah, they do a great job of giving us water. They do. And ice melts in like 30 minutes. They come in there and put like a whole bag of ice on the waters, and you look back there, and it's just like, it's almost like you can see the steam.

But it's, um, it just literally mounts right away. Spot on, spot off. Four top ten finishes for junior motorsports and Justin wins. And also the dash for cash winner. He had a large check. You guys should have. Hey, do we have that check, by the way? You should have brought.

It's in the hat bag where you told me to put it. Okay. Oh, do I get a hat bag? Hey, speaking of, why didn't you come down to Victory Lane? I wasn't sure I had a ride after that. Oh. I didn't know Tyler was still going to be there. So, yeah.

Otherwise, I would have been down there. You can have Dale's. Dale only wore two hats, and then he came back and just. Oh, I get a bag of used hats? Well, you didn't put him on his head. I get a bag of used hats. Is that what you're saying? They're not used.

Well, we ran out of hats, too. We did. Imagine that. Well, no. Like, people come into Victory Lane and they just take the hats, so our guys would hold on to them, and then they'd sit them on the ground, and someone would take them.

That's okay. Spotter didn't do anything anyway. You don't go celebrate after you win? I would, but I wasn't sure I had a ride. Brett has beer. Like, Justin Wampon. Brett's a drunk. No.

He's not. Yeah. I wanted to, but you know I was hungry or something. It's too hot. Josh, I know you are going to say spot on for our top 10 finish. You're so happy for us. Yeah, Josh, spot on for that.

Spot on, man. I'm not going spot on, spot on, but you guys have ran really well at year. You should have got four. You should have been spot on all day. Are we still in the tire situation? Should you got four. Three days now. They were really, really strong.

William got up there near the end, too. I was actually, William's been impressive this year. I can tell he got a little bit, he got a little bit rattled there in that race. Not rattled, but, you know, he got in there and found out what these guys are going to be like a little bit. but he persevered through it and, you know, made it still finish good. Yeah, and his last pit step, something happened with something broke, like a rear something chain. I don't know.

Dave was talking about it, but I'm not an engineer, obviously. I thought Williams done really well so far. It's hard to switch series like that. Yeah, he's done really good. He's been fast and qualifying. He's picked up pretty decent. Spot on, spot off, Josh. 45 to 1 odds for Newman at Phoenix.

Spot on, about what I expected. Had a good pitch right now. Spot on? Because they would probably be that again right now. I mean, nowhere did anybody think Ryan Newman was going to win that race. With 312 to go or with 12 to go. No one thought Ryan Newman was going to win that race. I didn't think he was going to win it with two to go.

I didn't either. I didn't think he was going to win. Even on the white flag lap, I thought Larson would get to him in three and four. And then what was crossing my mind is what Ryan did to Larson to get into the chase a couple years ago. out of four. Do you remember that? So Ryan, Newman had to beat Larson to get in the chase, and he straight up just doored him into the wall off of turn four to beat him, like wrecked him, like destroyed the car. And I had visions of something like that going down again.

I was thinking the same exact thing. I was, yeah. How awesome would that have been, though, for Larson to get payback and get a win out of it, too, on the guy that took him out, you know. It wasn't for a win then, but it was for Newman into the chase, which is a big deal. Bigger than a win. Yeah, so, I don't know. Is Ryan a fighter?

Has he ever, like, fought someone when he got super pissed? I don't think he's ever fought anybody, but he's been in a couple altercations. Meleys? He's a talker. He is a talker. Yeah, he's a talker. I mean, I wouldn't want to fight Ryan Newman. Dude's, like, stalky.

Like, he's like. He has cattle. He has cow? Cattle, yeah. Oh, cattle. He's a tough farm boy. I'm not messing with him. I don't know what the hell.

That has to do with anything. about being strong. You have a little fluffy dog. He has like 20 cows on a farm. Oh, so right now you're telling me, is that to wrestle on him or something? He might do, yeah. No.

Wrestling bears. He could if you wanted. These people, you know when guys like this get cattle, they get people to take care of them, too. I think he takes care of him. Yeah, he looks like he would take care of him. Y'all,

you want to fight? No, I'm not fighting Ryan Newman. He's chicken. I'm not. Fight somebody else. You pick somebody. Who would you not want to fight in the Cup series? Newman probably number one.

Who's else? Harvick. Really? Yeah, he does a lot of... He's like a chihuahua. He's like always wanting to bite an ankle. But he never really like... When's the last time Harvest really connected?

Probably Cowbushed the Darlington that year. He punched him through the window. Yeah, but I mean, that wasn't even really a fight. One guy was in a car. Because he was scared. It'd be like somebody walking up to you at the cookout when you're in the drive-thru line and just punching you in the face.

Is that right? That's not happening. That might have punched me a lookout. But who else wouldn't you want to fight? Carl Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to fight Carl If I thought Carl, it would have to be dirty Like I'd just have to

Use bats Yeah, I'd have to bring a bat That escalated Either hit him with a bat or just fight dirty What about you? Carl Carl, Kristen None of them are going to hit a girl

Danica Okay, pretend you wear it Like three times her sides We pull your hair up and you wear the screen mask Nobody knows Who would you want to fight? Any of those guys? I don't think any of them would want to fight you.

Take them all down. So we were in Victory Lane and we had a flat tire and our guys, we couldn't get the jack under the car to get the car out of Victory Lane. So they asked Josh to come over and help lift it up. And I was very offended. They didn't ask for my help. Did you pull anything?

You're okay? You probably would have been allergic to something on the car. And then he carried like 10 bags back. So Josh got his workout in on Friday. He was a team player. I'm glad you got some. Sunday off to recuperate. Yeah. Josh had nothing to do yesterday, but watch college basketball and drink. We're going to take a break. And drink. This race center update brought to you by Exaltz. Junior

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responds first. Each of you will get 30 seconds to voice your opinion and then whoever went first is going to get a 30 second rebuttal. You get that? Rebuttal. You got it. All right. T.J. you're going first. Phoenix is a unique racetrack with her dog leg turn. Do you advise your driver to use the shortcut?

or is it just up to them? I advise my driver to use it because I've seen ground being made up using it before, but you can't, like, it's one of those deals where you can't just cut it a little bit. If you're going to cut it, you need to cut it. Like, I need to see dust coming up the back of the car, and then I just kind of close my eyes when we get to three and see what happens. Yeah, I don't advise my driver to use it unless it's restarts. Once you get going and you're by yourself, you don't gain enough or not to matter

because you hurt your car a lot with it. So I'm only using a restarts when everybody's stacked up and you can gain two or three spots out of it. Yeah, I still advise my driver to cut it. Only if you need the time. Only if you need to make up that extra car length or their side by side a little bit or something like that. It's not something you're going to want to do when you're by yourself. You know, that was like 15 seconds.

We were having technical difficulties. It's not a preferred line that you're going to want to run by yourself. No. RCR and Ryan Newman took home the win from Phoenix. It was their first win since 2013 with Kevin Harvest. Do you think RCR is back on the rise or was this win just a good strategy call? Josh? I think this win was a good strategy call.

I think some weeks they showed signs of speed and on the rise, but I still think they have a little ways to go. Yeah, let's be honest. So 31 was not a threat yesterday at all. But if you go back to Atlanta, he was fast all weekend. In practice and qualifying, he was the guy to beat. You know, he did get beat for the pole at Atlanta, but he was fast. So they've obviously found a little bit of speed there and that it didn't have it quite. at Phoenix. I look for them to be pretty decent in Fontana.

Yeah, I agree. I think the 31 and the three have both been pretty good someplace we went this year. You're supposed to argue with me on these. Like, you're not supposed to agree. Well, you're right. I can't argue when you're right. What? Don't make his ego any bigger. Say it again. So would it happen with it. Of the three one-mile racetracks, Phoenix, Hampshire, New Hampshire, and Dover, which one is the hardest to spot at? T.J. Um, you know, I don't, I feel Phoenix would definitely be the hardest just because of the angle, but we're all used to the angle at Phoenix, and it's not nearly as difficult as like a Pocono turn one or indie, because you can only see half the track.

But Loudon's really good. Dover's fine. But Phoenix, just the angle you're at, but we're all used to it, but just, it is difficult, and you kind of got to, you kind of get to learn it as you go again every time. To me, the toughest is Dover. It's because the tracks widen out so much there over the last few years. there's a lot of big speed differences and when they crash there it's self-cleaning track so you don't know where the guys are going to end up.

Yeah, Dover doesn't bother me as much. I like multiple groove deals like that but there's no real easy way to wreck it Dover or Loudoun either really. I mean, when you wreck at those places, you wreck pretty good. But I'm still going to, I'm going to stick with Phoenix.

Kyle Larson has finished second the last three consecutive races and is currently the points leader. What races do you think he has the best shot to win. Josh? The next one. It seems like every week he's one of the fastest cars

and has a chance, especially when the grooves move around. So I look for him, probably contend this week of California since we'll be up by the wall at some point. Yeah, didn't he win the X-Fidity race? X-Fiddy? Exfittity race? Didn't he win that race there before?

I'm pretty sure he did. I thought he won there. I believe so. I think he's won there already. But yeah, he'll be fast this weekend. Those guys, the Gannasi car, as 2017 package is all is fast. So I look for him to be competitive this weekend.

And I'm sure he'll make it exciting. Yeah, he'll be good this weekend. I think bristle will probably be a really good chance for him also. He always seems to be fast there and really aggressive will be able to pass people when everybody gets to move it up. The off-the-wall topic, what has been the biggest upset so far in the tournament? Who has been the biggest surprise? T.J.

I mean, if you're going from last night, it would be seeing Duke lose. The one thing that I think it's getting worse and worse is what we're seeing with the officiating. You know, they should be able to review stuff like I'm sure you saw the goaltending call in the basket. The guy's arm was through the hoop. I mean, that's not, I've never been able to do that, but to me that's not legal. Yeah. I mean, how can you not go back and look and be like, okay, that was clear goaltending? The biggest upset to me so far is probably Villanova losing.

I didn't really. Yeah, that scared my bracket. I had them going in the final there. I screwed everybody's bracket, right? The biggest surprise of me is Duke losing, but I'm totally okay with it. If Brett were here, he'd be, just quote. Yeah. Go Cox.

Yeah, he'd be like, go Cox. Did you go to USC? No. I hear Brett. He grew up in Martinsville. Yeah. There is nothing, you know. So I applied to Clemson and got in.

The college there is called Clarence's Steakhouse. Yeah, I went to Clarence's. That's pretty solid. That's the college there. I'm a PhD in Greece. Yeah, that's, I would say Duke or Villanova even, but, you know, I love seeing Duke lose. I'm not a Duke fan. I am not a Duke fan.

I don't like that little kid that trips everybody. Grayson Allen. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of him. He's like 6'6. He looks mad. I bet he got picked on as a kid. I think he has the most punctual face. He does have a punchable face.

He does. He's like the TJ of college basketball players. We're way past that. I lost that last week. It made me mad, too. It made me mad. We're going to go into hashtag AskDBC where producer Josh has chosen a few questions

off the Twittersphere to ask our guys here today. At J.M. Wallace 14 asks which track has the best concession item and what is it? Josh T. Williams. Josh knows. Definitely the Martens of a hot dog. I grew up on those things. I didn't know there was any other kind of hot dog until I was 15.

How many of you have you ate in one sitting before? I normally order like... I mean, your record. What is your record? your record for like a day? A day? 10 or 12? Oh my. Holy gosh.

I got like four a time. No, there were none of them with them. I had a buddy who ate 24 and 24 hours. That's disgusting. That's one an hour. How long? He didn't feel very good the next day, but... How many of you ate at one time?

Eight, I think. No, no, no, at one time. Yeah, like I ordered eight. No, like, at one time. I can only go one, man. but I can like You're ridiculous. T.J.

I just wanted to know. My favorite concession, I don't ever get them and I never have, but any place there's a gigantic turkey leg because it's always funny. Like the Renaissance Fair? It's always funny, man.

It's funny when you walk, yeah, when you walk by these people down there and you've seen them. These things are gigantic. I mean, it looks like a dinosaur leg and these people are just gnawn on them when you go by.

It's always funny. You always look twice at it. It's got to be awkward for them. That's weird. They don't look awkward eating it. I mean, they look like cannibals. Chicken flying. I don't know.

As far as food-wise, I mean, I'm not a big Martinsville hot dog guy, but for the price, Martinsville does it right. They don't, it's like what you expect to pay for a hot dog. You don't go there and pay $9 for a hot dog. You go there and you pay $2 for a hot dog, and that's what you should pay. I mean, it's right, though. I mean, you could take your family there and get some hot dog. and whatever.

A dog. I can eat there for less than 10 bucks. Yeah, Josh can eat there for 12. Oh. D. Logan. Still more. There's still more. At D. Logan 1S.

I'm heading to Dover in June. Are there, this guy needs punctuation help, but are there any can't miss restaurants or hot spots I should visit? Ben and I lean. To me, you have to go to the casino because there's no telling who you'll see in there. Sambo's. Yeah, and I really like the Michelle. The Los restaurant and the casino.

That's a really good place to eat. Yeah. Yeah, I don't make enough money to eat there. Well, take the right people. Last time I ate there, I got a Caesar salad, and it had the little thingy, the little fish. Antibis. Oh, my gosh. I threw up.

Holy cow. The little fish thingies. They were disgusting. You're so refined. Yeah. But I also did get a steak there one time, and I cooked it on a rock. Oh, yeah. That's what I get.

Yeah. And you got to go to fire and ice. Yeah, that's a good place. You made a lot of cool people there. What's fire and ice? It's a bar. Inside the casino. That's where I met Josh.

The program at starter. Yeah, that's weird. Okay. At Lacey Bazinet, S. T.J., what does it mean when you say double yellow? Are you talking about a speed on pit road? I don't know if I've ever said that word. Double yellow.

Lacey thinks you have. Lacey's listening to you. Lacey, I really don't. If I said that, I was mumbling or something. Standard, T.J. I don't even know what double yellow means, do you? We don't use any double yellow. I don't ever use double yellow.

Yeah, I don't know. Unless she's talking about the double yellow line. We don't ever talk about that. Yeah, we don't ever really have one, though. It's always a single one and then dotted. Josh, instead of door bumper clear, what do you say? I say outside corner clear. He says seven's driving away.

No. I said 88's holding us up. He's right. Should it took four. Should it took four is what you should say. No, I say outside corner clear. And any time I say bumper clear, I immediately think of T.J. And I fix myself. And Ryan immediately feels more comfortable.

No. At J.W. Roberts 1 asked, could a team turn a car around and use it again on the West Coast if no damage from the Vegas race? Yeah, they could turn a car around. I don't think any, there probably is a few people that might be doing that, but I don't think none of the, none of our cars will be doing that. You could if you had to. They've already got them cars ready to go. Our trucks leave at 6 a.m. tomorrow morning, so. Yeah, and the cup cars, we've had, we got trailers out there.

swapping out and stuff. They're doing it today. Probably right now as we're recording this. Our guys were meeting at 7.30 to go to the track, Phoenix time, to, you know, swap out, get the cars ready how they want, just like they would leave the shop here to go to Fontana, and then they'll be ready to go again. We got there on Thursday, and I don't know about your guys. We got there early on Thursday, and our guys had some work to do on the Phoenix car still coming from Vegas. So they worked on the car in a baseball stadium. One of those spring league deals, they worked on the car in a parking lot there for a little while.

Yeah. Our guys did everything Sunday night before we left Vegas, so we were a little bit later leaving, but they didn't have to come out so early Thursday. Yeah, probably still left at noon. Yeah. It's better than 745. I know you don't need to get up that early.

I stayed in Phoenix the whole time. I went straight from Vegas to Phoenix. Yeah. What time do you normally get up? My alarm was set for 1130 today, but gosh talk. Oh, my gosh. 1130. I didn't go to bed until 3.

Listen, he's also single and lives in a house by himself too, and he doesn't have any pets or anything. So, I mean, why not? I'd probably sleep then, too. I don't sleep that late every day. What do you got next, Kristen? Did you want to look at your Twitter and see if there were any tweets? Yeah. By the way, I smoked bread again in the competitions.

Do you see that? Yeah, because Kislauski disqualified. Cheaters never win. But I have, I talk to Brett and I have Brett's pick. Okay, why do some drivers like Larson and Dylan wear a harness type hans, while others, Harpick, et cetera, just use shoulder typons? I think it's driver preference, whatever they're more comfortable with wearing. They all fit a little bit differently too.

And some people, you know, some of them guys, I think some of them guys like different stuff as well. And they, like I know Justin Allgaier, he has some open wheel stuff. and I think that stuff translates to that stuff. He runs like that midget in the offseason or whatever, and I think some of that translates to what they wear. Yeah, I think almost every guy that you see that runs dirt or midgets runs to that harness. I guess it's just something.

Maybe it's easier for them to wear those cars and they're used to it. Yeah. I think, let's see, what do you think about Blaney's comment? We went over that. What did Justin mean, T.J., when he said his car was too good early in the run? That we were just too fast, and it was going to fall off quickly. and we weren't going to be as good at the end.

You never want to start off and just be like, man, this thing's perfect. You want to start off because your car will change. So you want to, if your car goes to the loose side, you know, 30 laps in a run, you want to start off being a little snugger, a little tighter. That way it takes longer to get to that point. So you kind of have a, you kind of have a more medium balance the whole time rather than I'm really good. And then 20 laps later, oh gosh, I'm hanging on.

So you want to have, you know, a little bit more of a medium ground. this person wants to know. What do you think about Cole and Austin? I think Cole just made a mistake underneath him. It was nothing intentional. And I think Austin should have looked at that a little bit and took his time before he erected him under yelling. Well, I look at it like this.

Cole is a rookie in that series, but he knows what he's doing. But he made a mistake. You got a cup guy running the Xfinity series for no real rate. I mean, just for the win. He has a rookie take him out. You know, not intentionally or anything.

But that's the risk you, take when you run that series. When you race against guys with yellow stripes on their bumpers, that's the part of the risk that you take when you're racing that series. And I think Austin's done a really good job of proving himself and coming into his own. But, you know, things that when he goes and does stuff like that, that's not really necessary. He wasn't taking out for a win or anything like that. A rookie made a mistake. He doesn't need to go tear, take his car and run the guy into the wall or something. You know, next time you race that kid, rough him up a little bit and move on. Yeah. You also don't need to leave oil all over the track and cause a red flag.

I thought, hey, shout out to the cleanup crew who nailed that streak. It was like a snake slither in, too, and they were all over it. So good job to them. Does NASCAR allow teams to practice pit road speed using the actual timing lines during practice sessions? Yeah, we all did it a bunch on Saturday. Yeah, Saturday, maybe a little bit Friday, too. They have the timing and scoring stuff set up so you can run it and then go get the readings on what you ran. So you know, really.

So really there's not any big excuse for speeding other than the driver pushing the pedal a little too far and Hurt you because you got plenty of time to get your stuff right What could here Josh? What could NASCAR do to help you guys spot in multiple series? In multiple series? I think the majority of us do we do I mean pretty much everyone up there does Trucks and Exfinding and cup so what could help you anything help you not be some breaks on Friday I mean, TJ had to work out for five hours in a row on, was it Saturday or Friday? Saturday, man. 30-minute break every most of a good night.

And a qualifying and a race. And an umbrella. It's hard. Yeah. Let's don't get it wrong. We all have it really well. But it's hard when Friday. Well, all of us, but TJ, obviously, he's struggling over here.

But it's hard on like Friday when we have a cut practice and then three expending practices and they're all five minutes apart. You can't even, you don't have time to go to the bathroom. So like at Atlanta. We had seven practices and then Cup qualifying. There was five minutes between every practice. So we basically spotted for almost eight hours straight with five-minute breaks. So when are you supposed to go to the bathroom? When are you supposed to, you know, eat your sandwich?

When are you supposed to, you know, eat whatever snack Josh brings? I have a lot of snacks. I would get them in. Yeah, what's in your – we always ask what's in your spotter bag? Sputter bag. Pink hot dogs. In Marchville, yeah. I have a bunch of waters, actually, and then four or five snacks.

Snacks? Snacks. Snacks. Starrym country. Like some peanut butter crackers and some slim jims. Slim james? Slim james. Snap.

Is that what happened to Ryan? Did he snap into a slim jim? Yeah, that what happened? He needed a snickers. He did need a snickers. I got a, this guy wants to know why junior pitted for a two-lap shootout. Following from around fourth to ninth is better than 17th to 14th. Well, if we would have stayed out, we would have been probably fourth or fifth

because we were behind all those guys that stayed out. And we would have been the buffer car to tires. And, you know, depending on how everything went, we were, do you see what happened to TrueX? No, I didn't. We come off turn two. Truex started up there. He stayed out too. And we were side by side with him at the line.

So that's exactly why we pitted right there. We would have been in the same boat. And then you would have been writing the same tweet about, why on earth did you not pit and get forward? Did you see what happened to the True X? blah, blah, blah. So the opposite end of that, I think Junior and then made the right call by pitting. We were 20th already. Yeah, there's no reason.

And hindsight, we probably should have stayed out. If you stay out, you need to be in the first row. Yeah. To hold people off. But our problem was we took four, so we came back out 23rd or whatever. Oh, yeah. You should have took two. So we didn't, we couldn't go anywhere the last screenlight checker.

Can you talk about how the Dell Jr. Download needs help badly? Door bumper clear has been entertaining this year. Thanks, Ralph Cramden. I like you. You're a nice guy. Who's a better golfer, Josh? Or Josh?

That'd be this Josh. Special guest, Josh. That would be special guest, Josh. That Josh calls me after he's been drinking. It was like, I really need some golf help. I do. Yeah. Sorry, not everybody was a former professional.

It's not my fault. I'm really good on Tiger Woods. You're really good with a controller. Yeah, I can't play golf regularly. Pupput. Play Pupu up with you all day. Do you use a little plastic putter or do you get a big, big boiling? No, man, I'm talking like windmill and stuff like that.

You know, the Leaning Tower of Paris, got to hit it right through the middle of it. Did you say Leaning Tower of Paris? Yeah, I think it's it's Paris. It's Pisa. Pisa. Yep. Edit that out, Josh. No.

No. Absolutely not. Leaning. It's over by Paris, isn't it? Yeah, same continent. Do you even know where it is? I've been there. It's Italy.

Been to both. The Leaning Tower of Pisa is in Italy. Not really because, no, but I've been there. I got off on a cruise ship, man. Do you have any rants? Anything that made you mad this weekend? Yeah, and what made you mad? T.J.

come up to me telling me she took four tires. Hey, you should have. Every time I saw him. Like today. And then everywhere else, text him after the race. I should have a little bit of a rant. It was like 97 degrees,

and we got told we had to take down our umbrellas. I know. I brought a special one, too. Why did they tell you to take them down? I don't know. We just got to a way to take them down, or the police would be up there. Yeah.

The umbrella police? Yeah. Yeah, I guess. We're not looking at anybody's view. We're on the top of the spotter stand. Closer to the sun. Yeah. So that's why, you know, we asked for the roof.

So, yeah, I even had a little special one that like clamps onto the rail. It wasn't going anywhere. With your little fan? Oh, I forgot that thing. I need to bring it. I'm telling you. I cannot. Like this, you saw the fan.

Oh, yeah. When I brought the Michigan, the thing's awesome. It's recharge. It's like a little USB fan, and you just put it. It's got three speeds. It's nice. We needed that under the pit box. It was like there was sun everywhere.

There was no shade down. There was no shit either because we couldn't have a number of us. Yeah. Waw. I am really not worried about no shade being down there. I'm worried. I'm not. I was sweaty.

It was hot. Yeah. Still not worried. You had a nice cooler right there. That's right. I got doused with Gatorade in Victory Lane and smelled like Gatorade for the next 12 hours. Oh, so you're complaining, but now you're not complaining.

Right, because we won. All right. I don't really... Josh, you got anything? You got anything you want to plug? Did you write a book? Yeah, Josh. No books.

No books. No singles. I'd like to plug the cookout. Yeah, like to plug the cookout for staying open late. Glad you found your house on the way home. Yeah, I did go last night. Thank you. Yeah.

What do you usually get at the old cookout? Yeah. I get a lot. It's not important. Let's find out. Yeah. Side of chicken nuggets. It depends on side of the corn dog.

I do get a corn dog. So it depends on my mood. This is going to sound really bad. But if I'm really hungry, I'll get like, I spend like $16. Holy cow. Yeah. Isn't everything like a buck there? Yeah, exactly.

So I'll get a cheeseburger, a chicken sandwich, a corn dog, a fry. You got to get the Cajun fries. That's good. A huge sweet tea. No chicken nuts, no. A huge sweet tea. And every once I'll get milk to it. Holy cow.

Yeah. Do you immediately, like, fall asleep? after the milkshake after the milkshake she falls asleep with the milkshake on his stomach on the recliner

I've never been to cookout holy cow you've never been to cookout uh uh oh it's so good I'm afraid I'm allergic to everything there you've been in the cookout yeah I got a cookout

I'm talking about what how do you you're so weird the one where my means on his grill that sounds that was so weird

hey that's a good one man you need to hey on that note Anyway, you have to do your pick, TJ. No, I don't have to pick first. I won. Brett is picking Kevin Harvick for Fontana. Oh.

Well, if he's picking Harvick. Obviously, you're not ready because. Why I needed to hear Brett's pick, I didn't know how big he was going to go here. But he's shooting for the stars. He doesn't like to be. He doesn't like this even stuff. Josh, you get a pick too. Do you get to pick?

I'm going to go. I'm going to go with Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Yonson. I'll take Jimmy. Since it's my only time to pick, I'm going with Larson. Boom. Shokalaka. Did I already use Larson one time?

No, I didn't. Perfect. All right, well, we'll see what happens. He'd be a good pick right now for sure, though. He's on a good track for him, too. Yeah. All right, well. Well, Josh, thanks for.

Yeah. Thank you all for having him. Pinch hitting for us. Yeah, I think the cookouts open right now. You should head on over there. Yeah, you should head on over there. It's just a corn dog? I'm hungry.

This is a burger. This is going to be a $16 trip here. You're right. But Josh, you've got to thank One Main Financial. That's Brett's lines. Okay. I'm going to be Brett right here. So I really thank One Main for sponsoring the podcast in the Exhaptus Studio.

And I'm going to leave y'all with Brett's famous line. Holla. Well, we're not done yet. That's for me. Oh, for you. You're not done? Keep sending us feedback. Rate us on iTunes.

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