Door Bumper Clear - 55 - Battle to Stay on Topic

Episode Date: April 26, 2017

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You're win. Oh, yeah! Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotted of the 88 cup car, the 7x50, 29 trucks. Just get it right one time. Oh, I'm using that. Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler,

and we've changed seating orders today. left. I'm in between the two greatest gents in racing. Hey guys, it's KB between T.J. and Brett. A rose between two thorns. It's a sandwich. Yes. That I can't eat because I'm allergic. T.J., I think we should slide in a little closer. Let's do it.

Come a little closer, baby. Hey. I just wanted if you were a fruit, you'd be a fine apple. Slow news day today. There's no news. What news? Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing to talk about. Nothing to talk about. We're at Junior Motorsports. I was looking for the trail of blood around here and I couldn't find any so everybody's taking it better than I thought they would

yeah I'm nodding it's going well what's your what's your uh tj you obviously know more than anybody probably in this building other than the folks who work with with with with dale on the day to day basis so what what do you got what's the scoop man on your side uh personally um I'm I'm happy for him um I think in the last year year and a half I've seen him grow up a lot and be happy. So I don't think, like, one of the things this sport, people don't get a chance to, like, go out on their own terms a lot. So this is big for him to be able to call it quits when he wants to in good health, you know,

just in a good part of his life, man. And he's got a lot of living to do now, and he's got time to do it. And so being friends with him when I talked to him on the phone about it, that's one thing that I told him that I was happy for him. And, you know, I thought it was a good decision for him personally. I mean, he's accomplished everything he's needed to accomplish, and he's happy with what he's done. Yeah.

And the reputation that he's built in the sport. And just seeing the influence that he has. Like, he's, and I won't admit it again to him, you know. It's going to be good. I won't admit it again, but he's taught us all good lessons. Like, if you want to know how to, if you want, there's different ways to add in a sport. He's been a great role model for a lot of people.

And sitting back, sitting back watching him handle certain situations that he's went through and seeing how he's handled him. I've learned a lot myself too. So he's been a great role model and great friend of me. So I'm happy for him. So you personally, now that you know what his future is, what's your future? From a spotter standpoint. You know, I don't know. We'll see. I think you have to you know, I think you have to sit back and I think you have to give your team all your attention to start with until it's time to see what happens, you know, but I think, you know, you weigh all your options. If you got something, if there's something outside the sport that you can possibly do

and something you're home on the weekends, you might look for, might look at it. But the spotter group, you're a loyal friend, loyal guy. You were going to spot Fredell Jr. As long as he drove. Right. Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't, you know, he got me into the sport a long time ago and not not to work with him to start with, but he found, he found an ability that I had. And he, you know, wanted me to work with him. And it's not, not many of us have gotten to work with drivers for that long. Right. Like, I've been working for almost 10 years now.

Yeah. That's, uh, he went through a lot of spotters before me. So to get, work with him for that long, it's pretty good, I guess. I don't know. You know, you just sit back and you keep doing your job. We still want to win every race the rest of the year with the 88 car, you know. And, and, and, and, and, and, but I think it'll, it'll, it'll play out. Something might come along to do.

And, or, you know, like, you, if you could find. If you can find a good job where you're home on the weekends, you might look at it too. But the spotter group, it's a unique job. And to be one of the, I've been told that I'm one of the better ones. Who told you that? You? I'm just kidding. I got one last question for you that I want to ask KB something.

So you know how many races are left this year. What's the one race you're looking forward to spotting with him the most? I guess it's kind of I mean clearly Homestead is the last call so but what one race are you like man I can't wait for this to be our last race together in terms of it meaning something

you know I would it would be nice to win a plate track still again because that's what he's known for being really good at it'd be nice to leave um it'd be nice to drive into victory Atlanta Daytona or something like that or uh you know indie indie would be good but just something about the plate tracks

you know you know that people were it's a great race and it's kind of what he's known for. And I think that would be a, I think winning a plate race would be pretty good. I was going to say second Talladega because if I'm Talladega right now, I think my phone's ringing off the hook and these Dell Jr. fans are buying tickets because that's Deladaga. That ain't Talladega. And I think they're selling tickets like Wildfire and I think the Daytona 500 lines are probably not ringing at all. That's just my opinion.

So, KB, you were here this morning. they announced it at 830 to 150 plus employees here. What was that like? It was emotional. Kelly got a little emotional, of course. So she told you guys. She told us down at the surface plate. Everyone was there at 830, and they said it was going to drop at 9 and to stay off your phone.

Yeah. But it was very positive. It was Dale is 100% committed to his partners, his sponsors. He's healthy. He's 100% behind Junior Motorsports. and that he just decided not to renew his driving contract for Cup. Yeah. And that he, you know, is 100%, you know, for all of his partners, his obligations,

and he wants all of us to know that we're still here. We're still operating at 100%. There's nothing different from the day to day. And he's going to continue to be incredibly relevant. There's only two ways for him to stay relevant. It's either to go do TV, which I personally hope that he does, and it's to be an owner of this race team. And the owner of this race team opportunity is not only now in Xfinity,

it may be in Cup down the road too, you know. Late model? It does open the door. It opens a door for him to have the time to do that. And she said that it'll also offer him the opportunity to be here more and be more engaged with the employees and the management and how the day-to-day operations go and the vision for Junior Motorsports and his entire thing.

Until he's here every day. She's like, you've got to go. You all realize while we got a bigger studio here, right? You're damn right. Because he's spending more time here. office. We're on our way to the top. Yeah. No, so everyone here is incredibly, that's why good spirits, very happy for him. There's no sense of fear about the future and everything. You know, it's just another chapter

in his life, and we keep moving as we do every day. Yeah, I got a lot of texts from friends going on them, I can't believe it. And I think everybody in this room can believe it because we know what he went through last year with his health. We know he's married now, wants to have a family. TJ, were you surprised at all? I don't know if I was surprised. I mean, I knew it was going to happen in the next few years. I wasn't sure when, but honestly, I was happy for him. I mean, I really was happy.

When he said he was, I knew it was right time for him. I wasn't like, oh, man, damn, we need to run one more year to get. I didn't feel like that. So when he told me, when he called told me, I was like, man, I'm happy for you. Like, I am. I mean, I've seen him a lot anyway, but seeing him a lot and just, and seeing how happy he is with Amy that wedding everything was perfect man he had time off to do that

and then I see how happy he was there and how happy they are Easter was awesome for him the break and everything it's fun man I'm glad for him yeah so I wasn't I wasn't overly surprised though I mean it's always a shock now it's real so before it was like

ah we might might not but now it's like when I first read it I was like maybe this will be like Mark Martin's retirement where he'll retire but he'll still race five more years You know? Yeah. And I mean, that's obviously not going to. Retire, but I'm not really retired.

Yeah. I do still think he'll race some. I don't know that it'll be in Cup level, but I think he'll run some Xfinity stuff. I mean, he even said when I retire, I want to run a full truck season years ago. I'm not sure that's still relevant his brain. But, I mean, I think he'll still play around some. Yeah, I don't know, man.

I thought that for a while, but after last year and just seeing how, seeing him enjoy weekends and stuff, the way he started enjoying him like normal people. Yeah. He was pretty happy. So I could see him getting pretty heavily involved in the ownership part, like, you know, getting down, like Kelly said, getting really involved. And like he's got people in place to do that for him now, but he might be even more involved, which you said, might not like it as much. I think it's great for Junior Motorsports as a company. And when I look at what Junior Motorsports has done over the years for him and his brand anyway, I mean, I'm not taking anything away from Hendrick.

But when you look at who their drivers are and what their brands are like, I think Dell Jr's brand, you know, his fan base was because of his name, but his brand is because of what people like Kristen and Josh and everybody at Junior Motorsports does here. It's a, I mean, look at these podcasts. This is an extension of his brand, and I think that smart people are around him, and it's only going to get better for this company.

Well, he finds people. And I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. I really believe that. So that's one of the things that he's taught me, too. That's a lot of smoke. One of the things that he's done is, Your ass is already smoking. I'm just blowing the smoke around.

Damn, you're so far. One of the things he's done here, though, is he's taking a lot of people. And he's found, he's taking a lot of people, and he's found their niche. Like Jordan Erickson, the gravity designer, we all used to race in the computer back in the day. He's got friends in here that he's found what their abilities are and put them in place. Tyler Overstreet. Didn't know him until we used to race with each other. And he's found all these people's, the IT department, Brad Davies, Josh Barry,

Lee Langley. Lee Langley. He found him in at Walter Reed. Yeah. Now he manages our entire parts. Did you know him before? Yeah, we knew Lee before. Oh, got you.

Yeah, we've just Brad. That's how he got Brad here. Just, but he's found people's ability. Like, I didn't know how. You know, he never heard me spot, and I did the first race for junior motorsports when they ran homestead with Mark McFarland. And that's when I got the call that. I got the call the next morning from him.

He calls me from his bus. He says, hey, I'm over there putting sideskirts on a Sterling's car. For all you guys, first listeners, TJ never talks about himself. This is actually something new. Yeah. Well, he's fine. What I'm saying is the guy's good at, he's good at finding people's abilities. You were putting sideskirts on Sterling Marlins' car? Yeah. Yeah. And then I get this call and I'm like, Dale Jr. are like, oh, what I do.

Yeah. What I do here? You know, I broke something, did something. You know, I let the Buffalo out. I did something wrong, you know. And then he's like, man, I love for you. I listened to you yesterday. I really want you to come spot for me. Yeah. So, but he's cool. I never thought I get that phone call. But he's found a lot of people in his building that are actually very valuable. Talented people. Yeah, very talented. Cool. Well, I think we're all happy for them.

It's just going to be different. It is. It's going to have business implications. It's going to have a big deal of the licensing side of the sport. But nonetheless, this sport has proven it goes on. The show goes on. I think he'll say involved, though. He's not just going to disappear off the map.

He's still going to be involved. And like you said, I could really see him doing some TV stuff because he's not. he's good at it. You know, I remember when he was first going up there, you know, for the first time he was nervous. Yeah.

And then he gets out there and he's really good at it. So, um, yeah, I think, I think people will stay connected in that aspect as. TV would be crazy not to sign this guy and get rid of some of the older talent that

isn't as connected. If you guys want to name names, you can. I'm not. I'm not going to name names, but I agree with you. Who's old up there? Oh my.

There's a fight in the garage. You're still on that. Jesus. Anyway. No, Jesus isn't in there. Redneck Jesus. Redneck Jesus. Oh, gosh.

Next. All right, we're going to spot on, spot off, y'all ready? Kyle Larson dominates the majority of the Xfinity race. Brett, spot on, spot off. Spot on for him, man. He was doing it. I mean, he kind of started. He was a guy all weekend, him at Stenhouse,

so we're working really hard to make the middle and the top come in. And when it came in, he was three to four tenths a lap faster than everybody else. Stenhouse worked too hard one time. Yeah, more than one time. I just, man, I know we were talking about Kyle Larson, but this racetrack was amazing this weekend. I thought it put on a great show. It was so busy that I looked at the spotter beside me,

Mike Herman that does. Not Mike Harmon, by the way. Mike Herman that does Stenhouse. And I was like, man, we're so busy. I can't pay attention to some of the things I usually like to pay attention to to help my driver because it was chaos. Anyway, spot on.

Yeah, spot on. It's been a while since we've had a young guy come in and Chase did it a little bit last year, but not like this. Kyle's kind of hitting his stride now, and we need somebody young like that to come in here and be like that. So spot on for him and spot off for the rest of us trying to catch him. Spot on, spot off. Jeremy Clements gets sucker punched by the-nobstead. No, he was not sucker punched. By Ross Chastain during Red Flag.

I mean, kind of, but not really. First of all, Josh was there. He was there. producer Amish Josh was there. Josh, give us the recap of what happened and then TJ will give you spot on. The king of watermelons and... Yeah, so basically what happened when the red flag came out for rain, the two cars were coming down and Michael was coming down behind them. And apparently the radio went out, but Michael at one point said,

you guys need to pay attention to what's going on out front because it's going to be awesome. Yeah. So basically, I'm standing... there with an umbrella, you know, making sure that my driver didn't get rained on. Exactly. And all of a sudden, I just start seeing people running, officials coming over, and all the sudden, Jeremy Clements is standing there and just gets whacked right across the cheek, right below the eye.

Did you see what instigated it? I never saw the whole, like, turning him around or anything like that. I just saw the aftermath. I saw his eye and saw the results. Oh, yeah. They made him go to the care center. It was a solid punch. Why were they fighting?

But party fell on Josh because we were texting in our group. Oh, God forbid. I didn't get it on my phone. I'm sorry. What's the deal, bro? For all of us on the ad-tier. Do you realize you would have been like a star? Yeah, you'd have been to the new Jeff Gluck.

You wouldn't even be here producing this. You'd be so viral. Joshmaston.com. Joshmaston.com. You would have been at a higher place already right now. Yeah. Like TMZ, Josh, something like that. But I'm still just low on the totem pole.

Anyway, so spot on, spot off on that. I mean, hey, don't grab a guy. Spot on, hit him. What Ross Chastain said was you don't grab a guy like that and expect not to get punched. I'm going spot off because who are these two guys? I've never even actually heard of them. Jeremy Clements and Ross Chastain. Does Ross know how many people have probably wanted to punch him in the last couple years?

He drove like an idiot at times, but lately he's driven even more like an idiot. I don't know who even spots for this guy, but something needs to change. He blocked us for five laps the other day. That gets on my nerves. He gets on my nerves when you're passing him, and he's type of guy that can't give you two feet off the corner. He's four laps down, and racing one other car that's a half a track away from them. Not even, you know, and he's the type of guy that you come off the corner.

You about wreck because he shouldn't be there and he is there. Apparently they were, like, bumping each other, each other, like under the. They were. They have some personal issues between each other. Maybe we should sit a girl? Yeah. With their cars. Oh, stop it.

There's two things. Were they in their cars when they were bumping each other? Huh? Nothing. So Ross got homeless, grew a beard, and wanted us to fight Jeremy now. Although he had some token chick waiting for him. This is. Why did we not know this before?

Elliot was in the qualifying stall next to him. I thought you were about to say Elliot's something else. I'm like, no, please no. So we were in the qualifying stall next to Ross Castain. And he had some, like, blonde person next to him. You're not going to get this info anywhere else. This is it. So, wait a minute.

So really, they weren't even fighting about bumping on the track. They were fighting over a chick. Bumping off the track. Yeah, bumping off the track. They got two years of anger at each other. My pony. Oh, my God. This is a redneck shit right here.

I love it. You know what? You know what? That girl probably singing that old positive case. I got a man. She's smart, though. She's smart and beautiful. The man got to do with me pop.

I'm not trying to hear that. See? Oh, God. Spot on, spot off. Ricky Sandhouse Jr. gets a top 10 finish at Bristol Motor Speedway. Would you two lock it up? Who cares?

Who cares? Two guys are fighting over a girl during a race. Oh, my God. The only thing we need now is the girl to slap the other one. Remember when Max Pabas got popped in the face? That's what we need her to come out of nowhere off the top road and pop the other one. How awesome would that have been? Take up for her man.

This just got worse for you not recording this. Her new man. You need to have this. Umbrella or record a fight. Next time, choose the fight. I want a picture of the girl. She's hot. Gorgeous.

Yes. Oh, so it's worth fighting. And she's awesome. This story is. Wait, wait. How smart is she? She's smart as hail. She's awesome people.

Yeah, we're Facebook and her later. Oh, yeah, right now. TJ's going to slide in her DMs. Yep. Slide right in. Yeah. I'm certainly not going to grab her by the shoulder. No.

Hey, sorry. but I may have a T.J. We didn't say her name. What is it? I'm not saying it. Yeah. We're just going to find it out. Just tell us.

Oh, God. Just say it. Ricky Stenhouse. Ricky Stenhouse gets a top ten. Spot off because that wasn't enough to beat Kyle Larson, who Brett had, and we'll get to that later in the show. Yeah. Spot on. He gave me a valiant effort.

That's all I was hoping for. Ed Bristol's one of his best tracks. So somehow he's become a good short track racer at Martin'sville and Bristol. So spot on for Stenhouse. Spot on, spot off. Yimmy Janssen, back-to-back wins, baby. That's a great Hispanic name. Himmy?

Himmy Hans. They don't say Jays in Mexico. No. Pennefer Lopez. I mean Spanish. Himmy Hans. Hemmy Hans. How did this podcast turn into this today?

Lick it Overstreet out there. Back to back wins. I'm going to be the only guy in America to say spot off because his spotter, or, Earl and myself, we have a running bet every race. And whoever loses has to buy the other one a drink. So the first three or four weeks, Clint outrun Jimmy every week. And now Jimmy's on a tear. And Earl, and Earl orders freaking $25 drinks, like Long Island Ice Tees.

That's what I was going to say. He won't order like a damn $3 by light. So I order this is good. So I order Dale's Pale L when I get to order. Because he the man. And it's 250. And this ass orders. You know, so I'm $25 and he's killing me.

So anyway, I'm spot off. TJ, what you got? I got spot on because little do you know and you're going to be mad at this. Chad Canals asked me for a T-shirt signed. Where is my T-shirt? All right, get over it, okay? This is such horsesh-h-le-listen. So he asked me like a few weeks ago, before Texas or whatever.

So I brought it to Texas and I gave it to him. He wanted it signed? Yeah, so I gave it to him and then they won the race. So I passed him yesterday or Sunday. morning and I said, Chad, you realize you're 1 and O with my t-shirt. He's like, you're right. Now, Chad, is 2-0. Yeah.

So, Greg Eyes, we'll be wearing one. You're 0 for 2 with us, the other three people sitting on his couch. We don't even want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. We think you suck. Hey, before we go in the break, I want to ask TJ's opinion on something. No. Exfinity race, five to six laps left in the first stage.

The caution comes out, and we, wrote it out. Do you think that was the thing to do and to let everybody just finish where they were, or do you think they should have called the normal pit road open and tried to go back green and not, they literally took control of that situation

by writing out that stage? Do you think that was the right thing to do? Under the current roles, I do. I don't think it was, I don't think it is right to open it, close it, and then open it again. We've had too many problems. We need us not

count those laps. We need to not count caution laps or something at that point or do something. I was pissed. Well, going yellow all the way through the stage end is defeating the purpose of the stage. That's my thing. You just said you like it. Now you're saying you don't like it. I like it because people have been getting screwed by it. We like, okay, the truck race at Marinsville, we got screwed by it because they opened it, closed it, and then they finished the stage. That does nothing but swap the field for no fair reason. Right. And, you know, I do feel like, like, uh, I was just pissed off because we ran about 40 laps under yellow, too many than we should have.

Yeah. And NASCAR, a lot of that's on them. But in terms of that stage, you have to make an attempt to go back green with that many laps left because we could have gone two, two, three laps and then have two laps left in the stage. We just ride it out. And I'm sitting, I'm telling you, I was furious because I just didn't think it was right for the fans. What about no stage ends under yellow?

There you go. There you go. Just like the end of a race. It's like a race itself. So no stage ends under yellow. If you got to add a few laps, you had a few laps. I just didn't. Man, I was furious.

I felt like the fans were getting jipped of an opportunity to go back green. Even though you're going to immediately go back yellow, that's the point of the stage. Well, it honestly cost Ryan Blaney, Texas. Yeah. And it cost, it didn't cost anybody a race win, possibly at Martinsville in the truck race, but it swapped the field. Yeah. You took a fifth place truck and put them 19th for no reason. Right.

Like, that's not really, that's not fair to me. They got a, but they got the choice of pit or not pit. Yeah, but if they open it, if they, if they, open it, close it, and then end the stage, and then open it again, that's not fair to me. You've got to have some attempt at green in there to actually for a reason to stay out. So, I don't know. I think they've got to fine-tune it still. If you don't go green, you're defeating the purpose of the stage ending.

I don't understand closing pit road two laps before the stage is over either. If you want to pit, pit, pit, like to me, that's the whole purpose of the stage strategy. And I don't know. I think they need to come. I think they need to come on the show and explain what the hell they're thinking and give me and you an opportunity. changed our mind. That cost us a spot. They closed pit road, and Del Jr. saw the light flash, and so he thought

the yellow came out. He's kind of slowed. I'm like, keep going. What do you know? He's like, oh, that the stage was over. I'm like, no, we got two to go, buddy. Keep digging. So we lost a spot to the 20 car when he did that. Hey, so before we go to the break, part two, door bumper clear is actually going to be at Whiskey River. This is going to be big.

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Wonder how many people I could afford to buy shots for in that place. We're about buying Earl drinks. If it's a dollar shot, if we can get JR to do a dollar shots, I'll buy everybody that comes a shot. How about that deal? I think we get Ross and Jamie there and give them both fireball. What's the fire hazard, though, because I can't go over like 500 bucks. Oh.

They can fit a lot of people in there. Sure, I'm more than 500 because I can't afford more than 500 bucks. All right. Break time. Break. One Main Financial is the largest consumer finance company in the United States, and it dates back over 100 years. T.J. I did not know that, but I did know that if you were in need of a loan and your finances have taken a turn, one main can help. So race down to the closest one main branch and get back on track.

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I took a real break, okay? He did. He did. He did. All right. you guys a topic to debate. I'm going to alternate who responds first, and you each get 30 seconds to voice your opinion. TJ's going first on this one.

Yeah, boy. I'm switching the order. All right, we'll switch the order. Because he's pissed off. I'm a little mad at it. Is this his rant? No. It should be.

No, no, no. It's in the show, so no. Show, the show sheet. I like the way people in Tennessee talk. Y'all ready? They say like. Instead of like. Like.

There's a lot. I like. There's a lot. Was it Mike Harmon's fault when the number. number nine and number seven wrecked late in the race at Bristol Motor Speedway in the Xfinity race. Absolutely. 150% in the damn way. We got two guys race for position.

We'll end of the race, and we're going to the corner. It's clearly easy to lift a little early and get up out of the way. You are racing for absolutely nothing. So yes, it is Mike Harmon's fault. Brett will not meet you to Sandbar anymore, and he's not giving you beer. There's two lead lap cars, too wide behind. you racing for position and you opt to run the middle of the racetrack that either makes you a an idiot or b you didn't know they were too wide coming at you which makes whoever's talking

to you an idiot so one of these guys needs to change jobs because you can't wreck lead lap cars like that it's just it's profound yeah you put two guys in a position they did not need to be in we did not need to be pinched into that spot we could have went into that question corner too wide and race, we probably could actually beat the nine car off the corner. Yeah. But instead, we had to pinch him down because the 74 was pinching us down. Yeah. And it just puts us all in a bad spot.

It's the end of the race, man. And your teammates. And we're racing for a hundred grand. We're not really not, you know, say the 21 blows the tire. Yeah. That's a hundred grand. 100 grand. Dinger's low.

Turn a dinger up. Turn the dinger up. Bristol Motor Speedway used a substance called VHT to add grip to certain groups. tracks look at this strategy. T.J. told me V.T. is mouse-trap stickiness. Brett. I going into the weekend was against this because I felt like it was a very unorganic shot at manipulating a racetrack surface. However, after watching two races on it, I thought that Bristol Motor Speedway put on a tremendous show. Guys were two wide, three wide, the bottom or the top work. I'm all for it at another track. I'm not for it though.

So I liked it in the race, but I didn't like it in practice. They did the whole bottom groove in practice, basically, and it was just too grippy. They were so grippy that 55 hit his line twice. So, you know, in the race, they only put, like, three foot off the bottom. They put a strip or something. Right. And I feel like that was where it was at. Yeah.

I guess my question about this VHT thing is, what if you did it across the entire racing surface? What happens then? And I don't know the answer to that, and I'm sure we could all speculate that we'd do know the answer, but I'm definitely not for it going on other tracks. Clint Boyer finished second at Bristol Motor Speedway yesterday with, actually Sunday. With the way he is running lately, how long until he scores a victory in what track? Um, I don't know. I don't, I haven't, I don't know if I've seen enough out of Clint to get up there and dominate a race yet, but part of winning these races is hanging out in the top five.

You start hanging on that top five enough. You're going to win a race. So he's on his, He's on his way to doing that. Yeah, I think we've got three top fives, maybe even four top fives, and T.J. makes a valid point. You're not a contentional win until you're consistently finishing, not running, finishing in the top five. Richmond is one of his better tracks. Obviously, Sonoma's a good track.

He's a great plate racer. It won't be Indy or Pocono, all you fantasy players, so don't pick him there. But honestly, I think we can win Richmond this weekend. Pocono and Indy have too long a straightaway. Did you party? He gets lost. That P2? Did you party?

Party. I took fireball shots. Clint called me. He said, I'm going to drink a margarita. And I said that I'm going to stop and buy a fireball. It's so gross. What is? Fireball.

Stop hating. Heighting. Are you allergic to it? No, me, I'm serious, are you? No, I don't think so. It's not whiskey, is it? Yeah. Oh, then I am allergic to it.

Yeah, it's whiskey. Gluten girl. So we have a friend of ours, Kelly, sitting in with us today. And she always makes Caitlin Mincy and a lot of these other people on Fox look really, really good on TV, not from a makeup standpoint, but from a production standpoint. And I told her she could come sit in and listen to our show, only if she brought shots. And she didn't bring a damn thing. Kelly, you're out.

Short-lived. You're one and done. Smile for this one there, troll. Duceus. Let's go. Back to the show. You called me a troll. You said that earlier, didn't you? Who is farther down than you thought they would be in the cut points at this point in the season?

Kristen, who's going first? T.J. T.J. The 88. Oh, that was my answer. Yes. I was going to say the 88. So now I just agree with T.J. Well, now.

That is the 88. I mean, Del Jr. is probably, I honestly think he's going to win a race and get in this playoff. But he's certainly a lot further down in points than I thought he'd ever be. Who do you got, Kristen? Yeah, I always want Boss Man to win and be up there, so I would say the 88. And honestly, talk about this before the show. Listen, it's not because we're running bad. We've had a lot of bad luck.

so yesterday was more bad luck tan will wheel I screw that up the off-the-wall topic you have both worked in the racing industry for many years because you're both

super old what is your dream car that you would buy if money was not an obstacle oh you've lost control of this show what would you buy Brett dream car El Camino

I'll buy a baby blue Ford Pinto. Ten in windows. I was like, are you doing? Ten in windows and 20s. On it. You don't even know what a Ford Pinto is, do you? My mom drove a Ford Pinto in high school.

Is that not funny? That are a Chevrolet Chivette. That's my two-dreamt. I've never heard of a Chvette. You know what I really want? I want a white Bronco like OJ ran around from the cops with. And every time I see one of those damn things, it's like 15 grand. I mean, well, dude, they got TV time.

I mean, before Tim Tebow, that was the most famous white Bronco ever. Okay. Good one. Yeah, yeah. I would, uh... I'd give up on the dinger. You know, this went awry. They've created so many old cars now and custom shops and stuff, so it's hard.

Oh, gosh. I don't know. I'd probably just pick like a, like a Lamborghini or some. Lamborghini, T. I don't know. Something fast and stupid. I feel like guys who drive those have really small pennies. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel the same way about a Pinto. Who wants to drive a Lamborghini around? I don't know. I've ever driven one. There's a big... You ever driven one? There's a Lamborghini race shop here in Charlotte. It's called Underground Racing.

And when I was at Mobile 1, they were one of our race teams. Could you drive it? I've been driven. A bunch of pretentious f***s. That's exactly what I want to hang out. It's a bunch of older dudes with a shi ton of money. Yeah. And they go race like the salt flats.

Listen, if money's not a problem, is it a problem known in Lamborghini? Hey. Hashtag Asked BBC time, guys. Hello. So, producer Josh has chosen a few hashtag ask the guys here today, and we're going to start with at AA Ron John 102. You know these guys I hear laughing.

It's because we really phoned this in today. Because Del Jr. said he's retiring. There's TV people here taping us. Yeah. We're going. You mean they're not here to tape us? Oh, Brett. Sorry, Dale Jr.

I think for us. He probably, actually, he said he owns a Lamborghini. He doesn't like you. Yeah, he looks like a Lamborghini guy. How often do drivers, because he's dressed nice. He is, he's dressed pretty. Yeah, I think he really does have one. How often do drivers watch film of each race anything gained from this?

And also, I'm adding in how often do spotters watch film of race. How often do drivers and spotters watch film of the race? I do. I do almost every week a little bit. I like restarts and I like watching restarts and where sometimes, It's plate racing, but the package changed this last year. So this Talladego will be, you know, it'll be, I was, just a little bit. I like restarts, lanes and stuff.

A driver who's dedicated watches every week, in my opinion. A driver who isn't probably doesn't watch every week. So I think there, when you look at the word commitment, you look at Jimmy Johnson, a homestead last year, he had probably already run that race seven times in his mind before he buckled into that race car. I think that's how prepared he was. I think the guys that are, you know, doing well, or, certainly watching film. I know talking to Elliott. He watches on the way to the track on

Travel Day. He watches the previous year's race. And I know that William Byron is doing a lot of those same things in terms of trying to find which lines work. So I think this is a great question. From a spotter standpoint, I think TJ hit on it. Restarts can be a really big deal because you can know we knew at Bristol that the top eventually was going to prevail on restarts based on the past. So just looking at that on YouTube or wherever certainly helps refer. pressure memory. So it's just, it's another resource, and if you're going to be good at this job, you certainly need to rely on it. At Twitter asks, if Canada were to get a cup race, should it be held at Mosport or Montreal? Oh, man. Montreal, because they party their ass off

there. Have you been to the Mossport? I have not. It's in the middle of nowhere. So it's right America. We need to be in Canada, period. Yeah, I don't think those tracks are right for either one really. Montreal is just that's not built for a stock car. I'll be honest. It's a it's a flat track. It's built for a Formula One car. It's got runoffs like that. It's not built for a stock car. I don't know if Mossport was in Toronto or was in near Montreal, I'd say that'd be where we need to go. But I'm not sure there's a track in Canada that would be built for our series. Build one. The reality is we have so many. We have so many Canadian fans, A, that watch on TV. B, They come to Watkins Glen.

Hey. Yeah. They come to Watkins Glen. They come to a lot of our tracks. So we need to be in Canada. We did something really dumb and went to Mexico City where our fan base wasn't at. That track was terrible too. They were race fans, but they weren't necessarily NASCAR fans.

We have NASCAR fans in Canada go there. Yeah. We need to give them a good track. Let's put a Martinsville out there. When is the last time that the Cup series went international anyway? Japan? Japan. That's been 20-plus years ago.

What was that 98? Eighth, nine, five or something? Dale Jr. and Dale Senior raced in Coca-Cola cars, ironically. The number one and the number three, one was black, one was red. That was the last time we went to international, I believe. 98, Josh. Yeah, look it up.

I'm right. At Mike Zevenberg asks, clearly bad timing on the selfie here. Where do you draw the line and deny a selfie? This is so freaking ironic because Kelly and I were at breakfast this morning, and clearly she doesn't do social media. for Fox News. Fox Sports, rather. Sorry, I don't watch CNN. Fox Sports tweeted a freaking gif of Dell Jr. refusing to take a selfie with a guy while he was on the way of the Care Center. What social media person thought this was a good idea? You make Dale Jr. look like an asshole, which he's not. He's following NASCAR protocol.

Do you make your network look dumb for covering our sport by doing this? Whoever did this needs the, I don't even know what needs to happen to him. That's ridiculous. Did you see it, TJ? Yeah, oh yeah, I saw it. We were looking at it up in a flight hole. idiots yeah i don't number one the guy got the guy got the autograph and selfie after the after once yeah there's just a right time

and i know this isn't about the guy though no this should have never been seen on public i think there's a much better time to do that so but yeah is that is this the guy social media fell by

is mike zevenbergin the guy my blood pressure right now so he was just asking the question at SVT cobra john asked if they're going to run the race on a monday wouldn't it be better to run it prime time when they have lights available? Well, you just ruin my rant, SVT, Cobra, John. I am one.

We had a, you know, our sport trended upwards for so many years, and then we kind of got stagnant, and then to some degree in TV, we've trended down. I think a lot of that's because, you know, people consume it in other ways. But we had one of our best Daytona 500s was run on a Monday night, and we had a captive audience who had nothing else to do but to watch the Daytona 500. We had an opportunity here, and we talked about this a couple weeks ago on the show, Should we be looking at weekday races? There's no better way to look at a weekday race than to be forced into a Monday

and to be able to look at a Monday night, put it in prime time. I don't care if you take it off Fox and put it on Fox Sports. We missed an opportunity to see if this could work. And we took away the opportunity for people that wanted to consume it on TV. We took it away from them because they're at work. They can't watch it at work. They can try to listen to it on some stream or whatever, but they can't watch it and do their job.

This was a bad decision. Yeah, I don't The only thing that I Against that to me Would be okay say if you want to say you schedule for Monday night Then it rains again Go Tuesday night You're only gotta go to Richmond

You know what I mean though But what if it's a what if it's a West Coast deal What if it's not that's what I'm saying This is this is solely based on where we're at And where we're going next week I mean I'm not against giving it a shot one time But uh my uh Yeah I mean I honestly

How about this we work in racing And we couldn't even like we They put it we put it on in the kitchen But like Yeah, you can't even watch it. Right. Like, we can't watch it in our offices. And your boss is racing.

Right. Yeah. Josh wouldn't watch it anyway. I mean, I was following Twitter, but that's not the same as watching that. That would have been the first race Josh was watched sober on a Sunday or a cup race. Josh's watched sober. Look at him laughing too. Fucking three years.

So that's why the show sheet's so good this today. At T.L. Start 2014. Asked. Biggest positive surprise this year. J. Larson. The young guys, man, look at the points. We've got guys in the low 20s up there in the top two and three in points

and not backing down. So I don't know, that's pretty positive to me. Look at you showing a little leg right now. That's a lot. A lot of leg. That's a lot of leg. Biggest surprise. What's yours, Kristen?

Buy me some time. I'm pulling a T.J. I need more time. The biggest surprise. Here's the whiteness of your thigh. Oh, sorry. What's the biggest surprise for you this year? Positive surprise.

Positive. That's where I'm struggling. One main coming back. There you go. That was great. That was one great surprise. That was one main surprise. That's one main thing.

A biggest surprise this year, positive. The racing in general has been pretty good. Stage. The biggest surprise this year is how well I like the stage racing. There you go. That's a good one. The racing's been good. Yeah.

The race has been good to me. Racing's been good. I'll say this. Like you look at Bristol, they used to sell 130,000 tickets to that place four times a year. We sold the Xfinity Race out. So Xfinity Cup, Exfittany Cup, four times a year. You go in there and you take something that's so great,

and you manage to redo it one little thing. You redo the track, and now everybody's like, oh, we don't like it. And then you grind the bottom, you grind the top, you put glue on the bottom. And hopefully everybody, oh, nobody got to watch yesterday because they were all at work. but it was a great race, and I just hope that people go back to that place because it's a wonderful venue. It's a wonderful family atmosphere with camping. Like, let's go back to Bristol. I was fired up when I left there yesterday.

You're still fired up a little bit. Well, these last two questions pissed me off. The idiot that posted the social media thing and then why we didn't run on primetime. So that's why I was struggling to be positive. But stay, Jason. Love it. So, gosh. Hashtag DBC Picks.

TJ's not even in the running anymore. I mean, at 6 to 2 with Brett winning. My luck is carried over, like from the actual on track, 88 luck, is carried over into my picks. Luck and hope ain't a strategy. But I will say that Brett did take a top dog right there. I took a little bit of an underdog right there and it didn't pay off. It was pretty close, though. Yeah.

So we're going into Richmond. I should just like Kristen pick for me. It's not going to matter. You could probably pick Laning Cass right now still win. Daniel Swerve is. You know, because I'm probably not going to pick him the rest of the year because I don't trust him. I'm going to go ahead and take Clint.

Clint Boyer. Yeah, you were probably going to take yourself. Well, you did say that Richmond's drunk for him, right? Solid pick, man. Oh, the irony of what it would be like to win at Richmond with him. That would be, I would like to flip off every person that talks so much shit about us a couple years ago. Actually, I'll flip it. you off anyway, even though we don't have to win. So I'm going to go with a sleeper since he went with a big gun.

That's not really a big gun. Yeah, you're still proving yourself. Yeah, he's top seven in points, three top fives. I'm going to go with Chris Busher. I think he's a short track guy. And if I'm going to pick him, I'm going to pick him there. And I hope that he gets aggressive and that whatever his teammate has taught him, I hope he forgets it. And go Chris Busher. You're a treat. Six to three. T. TJ got a ran. Well, I think We kind of are a rant A little bit Yeah, I can't

My rant is more about The people can't decide What kind of racing they want No matter what we do It seems like people Why were so many people Bishing on Twitter That's what I'm talking

Bitching and what were they saying They don't like They don't They can't ever please everybody Like they all want Well this is what they do in the 80s Well this is what they do in the 90s Well this is what they do in the 90s

Well you know We're there trying to give The best product we can give We're not going there Trying to give a product That's not good Like we're trying things And people need to understand

So you're supposed to catch that and throw in that trash I don't know I mean I know here at junior motorsports I think the race has been great this year and I think people The Daytona 500 was one of the best ones that I've watched or seen the end of I actually watched I was on the way home but I watched the last 50 laps one night late in night And it was like I was like glued to my seat like I didn't even I know who won I was like man this is good Yeah And I feel like a lot of the races have been like that this year

What were people saying, though? What were they being about? They just said it was boring. It wasn't a good race. What? What channel was I skating on? Because maybe they should have turned that on. Yeah, I don't know if there's, I'm almost at the point right now that you're just not going to please everybody.

We just need to start to keep going to having good races. If you're NASCAR and you know Dale Jr. is retiring, what do you do to keep those fans engaged and help them find new drivers? because I mean, I'm in a weird spot here because I've been here almost 20 years, and I was here for Tony Stewart's rookie year, and now he's gone. I was here for Dale Jr.'s rookie year. I mean, when I first got here, he was a Bush Series driver champion, winning races, and doing extremely well. But I'm starting to see my guys go.

I mean, my generation of guys are going away, and I just see, I mean, like, if you're a Dale senior fan, you went to Dell Jr. If you were a Del Jaret fan, I feel like a lot of those people didn't know where to go. Like, what do you do to, if you're NASCAR, who's that breathing funny? It's out in the shop. Oh, sounds like, anyway. Like, what do you do if you're NASCAR to keep these people engaged? Kristen, you've been on that side, the NASCAR side.

I've been on the NASCAR side and I'm no longer there. What do you do, though? I think they're on the right path. Young kids are filling the seats and they're making it exciting. They step in the right direction was definitely the kids' ticket deal now, free kids. Love it. Yeah, that's hard to beat that. That's the future.

I think that's phenomenal. You know what I wish NASCAR would step in and do, and I don't think they can do anything with it. I don't know anything about that side is go in there and help set prices. The tracks need to understand these people.

They can't afford to spend $75 on lunch for three people. Like, it's too much. They've got to pull master's style, right, Josh? I've never been to the masters, but I know Martinsville is a $2 per minute cheese sandwiches. Right, and like $3 beers, right? Martinsville, $2 for a hot dog.

That's reasonable. reasonable. That's very reasonable. You go to Texas, there are $7, $8, $9 for a jumbo hot dog. And that's not even travel getting to and from the track. You got parking. Exactly. If you have a hotel, if you need a hotel, if you need an RV spot, all that stuff. Yeah, it's, they got to work on something.

The free ticket thing is to step in the right direction. But let's make it a fun family event the whole time, you know. And I think some of the sponsors and stuff are starting to go in that direction and make it, but the tracks need to work with them too. I think we're a very top-heavy marketing executive team compared to other sports. I mean, we have offices in L.A., offices in New York, offices in Charlotte, multiple offices in Charlotte, offices in Daytona Beach. Like, I think we're very marketing top-heavy, so I think those people doing things like the kids get in free is phenomenal. You know, we spend so much time talking about competition.

Like, there's a lot of rumors that, and T.J. and I talked about this weekend, the valence may be coming back. Like, we may see the valence get run on a cup car before this year is over as a test. And, you know, Xfinity Series, they're looking. looking at composite bodies, which means that we all buy our bodies from one place. We don't make them in house. You're still going to have to have body hangers hang them, but they're not actually going to be making the bodies in house. I'd love to have your boyfriend on and have him talk about that.

Maybe next week is the far as what does that mean if that happens for the future of the Xfinity series? And those are all just, you know, things that competition makes so much noise. But on the marketing side, these people need to be figuring out ways to put, you know, to take these Dell Jr. fans and not lose them. We can't lose Dell Jr. fans. They also have to realize who their fan is, too. I feel like sometimes they're trying so hard to be something they're not.

And if they would just stay true to the hardcore fan and bring the kids up, you alienate hardcore fans by the fancy schmancy crap that you try to do. Daytona Day. I want to bring back. I'm okay with composite bodies and all that stuff, but let's go back and run them at South Boston. Yeah. Let's make it affordable for these guys that don't have these big rigs.

Let's make it affordable for them to put a composite body on a car and go try to run. Right. I want the local hot shot at South Boston late Mara class to run in an Xfinity race there against them guys. You just made the best point you've ever made on the show. Really? Composite bodies at short tracks is a phenomenal idea.

Josh, write it down. Leave it alone at the other tracks where bodies matter so much. But T.J. just, I mean, yeah, if you're a local racer and can afford to put together a little bit of local sponsorship and be able to afford to give a car. Take pit, no live pit stops like that. Yeah. Throw a halfway break. You come down, change your tires.

You got five minutes or whatever and go back out. Stage racing helps you. I mean, whatever. People would tune in to see some local dude go against a Jimmy Johnson. Would you not watch a 200 lap or from South Boston with a hundred, a hundred lap on 100 break? I'd watch the heck out of that. Saturday night, something like that. Yeah.

Why not? Running it? I don't care if you run it. Saturday night, Sunday, Saturday a day, I don't care when you run it. It would be a good race. There would be action the entire race. Yeah. Cool.

Good show today, guys. Good show. Got us thank One Main for having us. And I think, you know, when you look at a sponsor like One Main that's been in the sport for so long, one of the reasons they're still here is because of personalities like Dale Jr. And the reason they're at Junior Motorsports, obviously, is because of a personality like Dale Jr. So I think this is wonderful news. His retirement is in terms of what maybe he can do for them, not in terms of showing up in public,

but just in terms of, hey, man, I'm Dale Jr. What can I do to help your brand and help you stay a part of our company? So just looking at it from one main's perspective, like, I think good things are coming. Yeah, I'm excited to see what he can do, and I'm sure he will. He's going to do something. He's not just going to disappear, like I said. I'm excited for what he's going to. I'm excited for what he's going to do down the road.

So I'm excited to see it. He tweets about races from the 40s. Yeah. He loves it too much to walk away. He knows about every wreck. and like he tweeted about a wreck when Sterling Marlin was in in Bristol how it caught on fire because they had jack stands

in the trunk. Yeah. And holding the hold on it. I saw that. So I mean, how does he know there were jack stands in the trunk that went into the fuel cell and caused a big fire? Like really? I mean, how does he know? He knows so much info. So, and I think you're,

at some point it's going to get his chance to shine. So it'll be entertaining for all of us. There has to be some blackmail stuff somewhere in y'all's friendship that you can get him to come to whiskey you're ever to meet us on May 18th for five minutes. Can we just line it up for next year? Yeah. Because I'd like to have a job the rest of the day.

Tushay. Go fund me for my pay for the rest of the year. But the pitchers would be great. All right. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for the Exaunt to Studio. We're out. Peace.

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