Door Bumper Clear - 56 - DBC Goes Live...Sort of

Episode Date: May 1, 2017

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and you're listening to Dirty Moe Radio. Outside, door, bumper, clear of the 18th, best car I've had here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag. You're win. Oh, yeah! Hey, everybody. I am J. Majors. Spotted the 88 Cup car, the 7th, Xfinity Car, and the 29 pickup truck. Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler. I do Mike Snyder in trucks every now and then.

That counts. Whatever. Yep. I love it. That's a cool name, right? That's an interesting name. It's unique. Yeah, our lovely co-host. Hey, guys, it's KB, and we're here in the Exalta Studios.

And Mike Davis is here, too, crouching behind the... Kind of creeping out. The desk. Because this is live on something. Periscope or Facebook. Something. Okay. Yeah, we're bringing this thing.

We're actually adding video footage to the greatness of the show. We're providing content to the masses. Yeah, this is going to be big. Millions. So we're coming off of the very very. very moist Richmond. This will get hotter than heck. That's a descriptive word.

It's a descriptive word of how flipping hot it was. I thought you didn't like that word. No girl likes that word. If I own it, then maybe, I don't know. If you say it, it's okay. Oh, really. So if that's, you know how double standard women. I will say Amanda Sadler did look up to the spotter stand at pre-race and said,

I feel so bad for Brett. Yeah. Because I was already drenched to that point from sweat. And then she looked up and she said, I feel bad. why she had me a 12 pack of Mikulad Waltrow on ice for after the race. Because I just poured them all on me. I was just like, it was hot, but it wasn't like, like Daytona, July hot. Kentucky.

Yeah, Kentucky. How about Kentucky? Yeah. Oh, my God. Iowa moist. I was so disgusting. Kentucky's hot. Oh, boy.

Anyways, it was hot. A lot went on with both of your drivers. Crazy weekend. Yeah. Both Xfinity and Cup. Yeah. It was, yeah, I had a great weekend until Sunday started. Crazy weekend.

It was crazy. I love Richland. How about your watch? Is that supposed to be like that? No. It looks like a rubber band. I broke it, and so I used one of my little girls. Hair ties to engineer it.

You're like my geiver. It's called Redneck Engineering right here. I got this new Apple Seetthrough watch. Wow. Look at that. That's awesome. I know. I like that.

Yeah. I don't understand why you wear the wreaths. wear the watch and then you don't wear it like you're going to replace the tan and he doesn't. So you're up on the spotter stand wearing your watch and your wedding ring. And then today you just have the sun tan watch in the week. Yeah, by staying inside playing maddena. They, um, I don't really use my watch at the racetrack really. I don't use it a lot during the week.

I use it at the race track. Well, I use it for, honestly, I use it for timing and stuff like that. Like your alarms and stuff for qualifying and stuff. I'll set it all. And I just, okay, we got a minute. already left and it's just convenient but anyway so Richmond Richmond how's your Saturday mine yeah not stellar it was wonderful until we just start making up you know then it kind of goes downhill from that so it's crazy I mean I don't know

Richmond's richmond people don't realize how fast Richmond is to be a short track I mean it's probably, you know, to be not high bank like Bristol, but I mean, it is a super fast racetrack. It is really fast. Even when I really like the speed difference when it's really hot and slick and they're slowed way down, somebody's short pitch or something. That's kind of fun. It's still a great racetrack. They were all over the place. I got to say the thing that surprised me the most is the number of restarts that we had, the number of collisions that I saw, the number of people hitting the wall.

and they still manage to save the race cars. Like, yes, we would ultimately see a yellow from a guy having his tire cut down, but when they would slam each other together, and I'm thinking they're wrecking, I mean, we hit Casey Kane on the front stretch on Sunday, and I was like, man, we're turning him around at a 180, and everybody saves him, everybody keeps going. Like, I don't know why, but for whatever reason, this rules package,

you can gather your stuff up and keep going, you know? I saw a lot of four wide that I didn't think I would normally see. Ever. And honestly, I didn't think they were. were going to make it through turn one. I was watching turn one a lot, waiting for them to wreck up there. They never did. No.

So, I mean, that's good racing. I thought it was good racing. Very entertaining. Yeah. Very entertaining. To the point that we just throw yellows for no reason still. Oh, man. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yep. Are we going to, are we getting back to that here in a minute? We're going to get back to it. Okay. It's a big topic. Let's go. Oh, yeah.

Let's go. Spot on, spot off, jents. Let's do it. Ready? TJ will go first with you. Yes. Boss man, Dale, starts the silly season. Uh, bought off for hanging me dry.

The thing is, a week before, we said silly season is about to get going. I didn't know at the time, obviously. I'm sure Mike Davis, you know, text you or somebody told you, but we didn't know it's getting all hell is getting ready to break loose. So nonetheless, boom, there it is. Yeah, the biggest news possibly of this season. I don't know how else you can. You guys made people.com within like an hour. No, it's not.

And that's celebrity news. It's not you guys. It's one guy. It's not you. guys. Hey you guys. Yeah, you know, spot on though. People that know Del Jr. and see him daily, this is the best date that I've ever seen him in. He's happy except for when the car's not handling. He's a little, you know, he's a whiny little brat. Wow. After the race when he did his, when you guys were driving, well, you were driving. Oh, he's so happy. What was he eating? He kept

picking stuff out of his teeth. I don't know. I don't know. But those periscopes after the race, he's always, oh, hey, everybody, race over. Hey, I'm happy. Do you not remember what you said to me an hour and a half ago? Yeah, I'm still mad at that. Just see you know. How about what he said to you during qualifying?

Yeah. So, sorry for doing my job. You must be the other guy. Yeah. Like, T.J.'s job is to give Del Jr. information. And then what Dell Jr. does with it is up to him. And he says,

fuck you, TJ. Don't tell me that. I'm not going up there. Like, that's exactly how this went, wasn't it? Yeah, I mean, basically, I saw some people. So did you get your feelings hurt right there? You know, not really.

I would prefer to be spoken to in a little bit nicer tone than that. How about your feeling? I didn't mean to make that plural. Maybe he was super hot. Oh, yeah. That AC blowing right on his head, I'm sure it was terrible. I don't know how they do it. You know, what they need to do is take that little thermometer that's inside the car.

Yeah, we get it's hot inside the car. They need to run a little thermostat up in there on the driver's forehead or something. Let's see what that is. Right. You know what I mean? Let's see what they really feel. Yeah. Because, you know, it can be hot in your car, but when you roll the window down and get some air on it, it's manageable.

They should show your temps. Like, when they go up to the spotter stand, they should show the temp of where you guys are standing. I would love to swap for one, for four hours one time. Like, I'll go sit in the car with the AC on the helmet blowing on me. He can go stand on the roof. But anyway, yeah. He gets really sunburned really quick, though. He gets.

He's like that movie, Powder. You remember that movie? You could, uh... He just goes from white to red. The first time I ever really hung out with Del Jr. And it was really hot and we were outside. We were in Daytona Beach. And it was like 2003.

They had that big concert down there for Biggie, you know, tribute deal. And it's Alabama, hooty and the blowfish and all these deals. And the first 30 minutes were outside, Del Jr. He was going, man, code red. And I'm burning. We got a fresh shade. Yeah. He gets moonburn, man.

He gets out in night. He can't even go out of night. Oh, God. But yeah. So it's my job to tell people when he wasn't, he was focused on running the bottom, I guess. and didn't want to hear it. So in a very nice tone and manner, he told me to shut up. I've got to be spot on for the fact that the biggest name in the sport, you know,

maybe ever, started silly season. I think the question now becomes, you know, who is the number one free agent to take over that ride? And then outside of that, who is the overall number one free agent that we haven't really heard about yet? I mean, I think guys like Eric Amarola and Paul Monard are going to be very big free agents because they have a lot of sponsorship with them. That's very attractive to a lot of teams.

I don't think that plays into what Rick Hendricks' plan is with Hendrick Motorsports. But is it William Byron Ready? Is Alex Bowman your guy? Are you going to go steal a Ryan Blaney? Is Carl Edwards was maybe this, you know, some kind of secret plan nobody knew about all along? I mean, all those things are going to come up, and I think that's what creates. The exciting thing that Jayski started, you know, years and years ago on the Internet and made silly season famous, really. That car will be filled by somebody with some talent.

Yeah. There's no doubt. I mean, I don't think. it's going to be like you said like an Amarola as somebody that's got some sponsorship he's going to take that sponsorship go somewhere and get into a decent car but I don't think that's what they're looking for there I wouldn't think so so spot on spot off junior motorsports one and two at richmond then caution for fluid on the surface I'm doing air quotes yeah I'm you know here's the thing junior motorsports is the dominant Xfinity series operation right now from a full-time driver's

standpoint. I mean, we're one, two, three, and points. And eight. And eight. Thanks for filling me. I knew that with those back-to-back top tens, you're welcome. Net was closing that gap. So I certainly, and Josh works on that program, but nonetheless, we're going to win the race. We're going to win Dash for Cash. I guess my biggest thing I'm spot off about is when the yellow comes out, TJ shot me the bird, and I still don't know really what that meant. Because you didn't have any tires left. I knew it. So he's pulling against his own fan. He's pulling. He's pulling against his own family here. I didn't pull against you.

I was just happier for me. The yellow comes out. T.G. looks down to me and he does like this. And what he's doing that for is because I'm getting ready to kick his ass and he knew it. And I hadn't waved at him. I hadn't done the – like, there's an old trick we do in the spotter stand. We go, like we're really –

Like you're fishing? I'm not even looked his way because I knew that he knew I was going to kick his ass. So when the yellow come out, he was like, ooh. But anyway, it sucks because I think we had about 12 to 14 laps of racing left. It was going to be a great show. you were going to have two full-time Exfinity drivers racing for the win. We throw the yellow. And the bird.

And the bird. They throw no speedy dry on the racetrack. No one wrecks. And no one's complaining of fluid. And it completely changes the outcome of the race. And oh, by the way, we tore up about 15 race cars after that. So it became the most expensive yellow of the season outside of what we'll probably see this weekend of Talladega. Are you done yet?

I'm done. Can I take my rain boots off? You're flooding me out here. You know what they say about a bird behind every bird? bird. No, I don't. Is this a South Carolina saying? Everybody knows what it means to this listener.

So I am, obviously it was great to see. I was pretty excited to see Kevin's call right there work out pretty good because, you know, y'all were going to finish probably, what, fifth, six, seven somewhere in there. We were fifth to six place. Yeah, I was glad to see Kevin, he was the only one that really did it. So I was glad to see somebody, you know, take a stab at it. That's a great call by him. So about that yellow flag

When that guy starts smoking Flames actually came off of his car After he was on the apron But you're gonna like this too So I was talking to Blaney about it He came home with us and he said he was behind that guy And when it went up He said he slipped and stuff

So he was like oh he said he went off turn two And he slipped and he was like Whoa I don't know And he said it went back through there And it wasn't slick So whatever was down got picked up or whatever Or it was water which I don't think it was water but there might have been a, but he said he actually slipped in something.

Right. So. It may have been his hair. But what you don't, what you didn't mention also is, is the, great hair. The caution that gave you, what caution was that? Man, I don't even remember. It was a 14 car. All I can remember is we had 15 laps on our tires.

And Kevin says, you know, we're going to come in and put tires on it. And I'm thinking, man, that's not enough laps. I don't know about this call. And I'm thinking that's why he makes a pile of money. And I don't make much at all up here doing this. And it was a hell of a call. I just, you know, it was going to be exciting, and I guess it still was exciting, and Larson got handed a win.

Yeah, well, he did get handed a win. But the caution before that was the one that I think we should be more upset about. The 14 car broke something in the rear end. Right. And turned way low out of four, got weight on the apron, no fluid or nothing. And they actually threw it for that one. No flames, no nothing. And that's the one that gave you the chance to pick.

I think the stage racing we all envisioned it as, this is going to take away some of these what we perceive to be BS yellows and we're still seeing a lot of BS yellows. But I don't know. I don't blame a yellow for a smoking car. Because if there is fluid and you hit it, then you know if that car blew up or whatever

and you went through there and hit oil or whatever, you'd be picked. Yeah, you're just watching that. I mean, as a fan, as a person doing TV, you have this awesome plot playing out and now it's over. Oh, trust me, I know the field. feeling. So I don't agree with the yellows.

I mean, the three car, now he jumps the start, supposedly. Who was the leader there? You were him. He was. He was. Yeah. He went real early. Yeah. So what, the yellows I don't like are, you know, oh, there's a rag up by the wall. You know, if you hit that rag, you've already wrecked. You know what I mean? When they're like, and I don't like the yellow is where somebody hits the wall and they literally go, and then they turn off it. Whoa, put it out. We need a yellow for that. No, we don't. They're fine. But if there's a, if there's a legit, smoking car.

They're smoking for a reason because something's broke. Right. On a positive note, you did win the Dash for Cash? Yeah, that was great for the... We have a 40 plus point lead in the series. It's insane. And people say, you know, the points don't matter. Yeah, they do.

Because we get a big bonus going into the playoff if we're leading the points. Whereas last year, when you went into the chase, they reset the points, and that was ridiculous. I feel like we could have won it last week, too, but we just got trapped on the inside. Hemrick gets two outside lane resarts. He gets to go by us. There's no doubt the hottest driver. There's no doubt the most full-time Xfinity driver that struggled the most. The first few weeks was Justin Algar.

It's like, you know, oh, my God, I'm in a race car. What do I do? And now he's got to these short tracks, and he has been on absolute fire. Put a hundred grand in front of this guy. Oh, my God, you can't beat him. We need to maybe dangle something in front of the car every week or something. Here's 100 G's. Man.

Spot on, spot off. Jimmy Johnson collides with Boss Mandale. And the tweets start. What happened? So I look, I see Jimmy, we're stretching this fuel run. It worked for the 31. Yeah. And we just needed a caution, but we didn't need to be the caution.

Yeah. So we're coming off turn two, and I see Jimmy there, and he's getting ready to blow by us. And right as I look to the left to look down in the corner, I'm like, okay, well, Jimmy's going to get us, I'm going to look up here. I look, I look right in the corner of my eyes, I see us both, like, smash the wall. I'm like, what the, we blow a tire or something? He's like, Jimmy just caoed us or knocked. Like, he just, I mean, everybody's seen the replays. and Jimmy said he had no idea that we were there.

But to me, you know, I don't know. Who's Jimmy's spotter? Earl. Oh, yeah, that's right. So I don't know that, like, it was literally almost wheel to wheel. Like, how do you not see that? Yeah. Plus Jimmy is the one passing.

Yeah. That's what I think is a struggle for me is he's caught him. We didn't sneak up there. How do you, I mean, even if your spotter did or didn't tell you, you should, know you're passing the guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know. And it wasn't like a bumper type thing.

It was like wheel to wheel almost. Right, right. Hey, we're here. Still here. But after the race, he came right over to all our car. He walked up to me and was like, man, I had no idea. I think he was just probably, he had just paid it not too long before that. And he was probably just in his own trying to get everything he could and just

probably thought we were going to be a lot slower than we were. So everything's fine between them. Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. Here's why I'm spot on for it because Del Jr. took and retweeted, or are he actually tweeted a text message from his mom, Brenda. And it said, I thought they put you guys through physicals before you could drive at Hendrick. I'm not sure Jimmy passed the eye test. Please don't get close to him on the road on what he's bicycle adventures all on.

I mean, for Dale Jr. to share that kind of moment with his mom to everybody, I think, was pretty cool. Brenda's a right. There's no doubt Jimmy and Dale are two of the best on the track. It's also. He's a great teammate, too. It's also cool to see a seven-time champion screw up like this. because regardless of what he says about a spotter,

regardless of what he says he did or didn't see, he screwed up. So, you know, he kind of owned it. And, I mean, I think it just goes to show how hard it is to stay this focused inside of a race car when it's hot as hell outside. You know, I mean, it's 150 degrees in that car. They're sweating. And for one second, split second, he lost concentration, and he managed to skip Dell Jr. CD player, I think.

Yeah. You know, Jimmy, a lot of those wins that he has, he's had trouble. He has spun out. he has done something and went to the back and came to the front. This guy is, he's the best that I could ever remember watching. Of all the things Jimmy does, mistake-wise, it's he wrecks a lot on Fridays and Saturdays finding that edge. And he was the master of wrecking and not hitting anything. And, I mean, that's just how freaking talented is.

He's finding the edge and still when he crosses, he usually doesn't tear his car up here lately. He's, you know, going to some backups. But, you know, nonetheless, won two races in a row. Are you saying we're the master of wrecking and hitting stuff? This year, yeah. What's up? Apparently we're good at it. Spot on, spot off, tire fall off at Richmond.

I got to go spot off on this. Yeah, we have tire fall off, but we all fall off to a point and then we stop. So, you know, we start off running a time and we lose about five or six tenths over the course of 30 laps and then we level off. So it's like the tire fall off is there, but the tire wear is not completely going away. which I would personally want to see. And we have seen it some this year. I mean, the harder tires, the newer surfaces is where guys like Dell Jr. had run better.

The places where the tires really wear out is where Clint's run better. So big fan of what they brought to Atlanta, what they brought to Fontana. You know, this wasn't a bad tire, but it certainly could have worn out more. You know, I'm going to go to the opposite because I liked the fact that after you got to a certain point, a lot of cars, it was up to the driver at that point. You had to be really, really, you had to use finesse. You had to be on a real fine line. You couldn't make mistakes.

You had to get in a really good rhythm. There were a lot of cars that stayed in an elite lap. We restarted in the back twice. And I remember looking back me like, okay, the leader is going to be here soon. Right. And he was half a track behind us. And it stayed like that. I looked at guys like the 34.

The 72 was really, the 13 was running 10th or 12th for a long time. Yeah, first stage. And he was competitive there. So I look at things like that. And I like the fact that we put a, we have tire fall off, which lets guys stay out, which lets guys take to, which changes a strategy. And it also gives those guys a chance to not be so far off the pace at the end of a run. You know, and when the leaders catch them, they got to work pretty hard to get around them.

So I liked that tire. Yeah, very cool. I got to say the groove itself, guys could run the bottom. They could run the middle. They could run all four tires above the white lines and both ends. That creates good racing. I agree, too. I saw Larson and Blaney and us, we were half crawling out of the wall.

entry. I mean, that's, that's Richmond we're talking about. This is supposed to be a short track where we roll around the bottom. And there's no VHC, there's nothing. Then you've got the guys that go in there, like a Harvick or somebody that's really good at running the bottom. He'll go in there and just kind of creep down there and he'll get that left front of the line and kind of hook it. Yeah. And he, you know, the short trackers, a lot of them guys can get down there and dig on that and make it work. Like, I watched the two car run down there and he was really good. Digging. So I mean, it's good. How do you grade that short track run we just had? I mean, we did Martinsville, Bristol, Richmond, pretty much back to back.

Personally, I think it sucked. Not for you, but for the sport. What do you think about that? I don't know how you could get them tracks much better. We saw guys using the top of the concrete at Martinsville. Normally, if you get there, you are wrecking. Yeah. We had Kyle Busch and Larson rolling around the top of the concrete.

We go to Bristol. We have guys all over the track. We have, you know, there's some guys run in the bottom, some guys run on the top, and they were both competitive. We go to Richmond. They're in every groove. So I don't know how it gets much better. Unless you just want single-file race on the bottom.

The guys moving each other all day. Do you think they need to be grouped together like they were? I mean, we do that West Coast swing. We do the short track run. And now we kind of obviously do Talladeg and then we go on a mile and a half run. Do you think we need to spread them out more? No, I think it's better for the teams because you work on a lot of the same stuff at those tracks rather than go a mile and a half. Go a short track.

You go out west. And these short tracks are kind of local too. Yeah. They're local to us. So we go out west, then we come back east and we kind of have a break in there too. we have a couple of racetracks where you can possibly go home a night or two during the race weekend. Yeah. I think that kind of makes the season a lot more bearable and manageable.

But I like as far as a team racing point to have a lot of the short tracks in a row because you can work on your brake package. You can work on it. You know what you're working on rather than, okay, put this car here for a week. Let's go get this one out. Let's bring that one back over here. Yeah. Spot on, spot off.

The 300th career start for Joey Legano ends in a win in Richmond. 300? That's a lot. Ease. How old is he? He's 26, 27. That's crazy to have 300 stars at 27 years old. Yeah.

When the first 150 almost ran into my sport. I mean, people don't realize when he... That's a Xfinity and... When he left... No, that's just Cup. Really? Yeah. When he left Gibbs, he was...

He had two options. He was either going to get picked up by Penske, and there was a question as to who they were going to pick to drive that car. Hornish was in consideration. Elliot was actually in conversation there, too. and it was like, okay, Lugano, if he doesn't get that cup ride, his only other option was to run a full Xfinity series at JGR. So he was going to go from a full-time cup driver at JGR to a full-time

exfinity driver just because the opportunities weren't there. And for whatever reason, this guy for his first 150 starts, he was a million ways to run 20th. And then since he got the Penske, he set the world on fire. So what he said is Gibbs isn't the place for me. The support they gave me wasn't the place for me. I'm actually as good as everybody thought I was, because Mark Martin named him sliced bread.

This guy's the next best thing since sliced bread. Turns out he's right. Spot on, Jolognav's killing it. Yeah, it took him a while to get there. You're right. Sometimes you just work better other places. And I think Brad had a lot to do with getting him over there. As far as they wanted a teammate, he thought he could work with really good.

Those two guys worked good together. And it would have been interesting to have about four or five more laps yesterday to see what would have happened right there. But I think they would have put on a really good race still. but the ending in that race, I mean, I thought it was good. Roger Penske's a billionaire. What he's done with these two guys that he has is he's let other people develop them. You know, Hendrick developed Brad Caslowski.

He came up through JRM. Junior Motorsports made him a champion. And then Penske came over and said, I'll take this guy. Same deal. JGR spends all this money developing Joy Lagano, getting him experience. He's only 22, 23 years old with a lot of cup experience. They're going to go, I'll take this. guy and then boom they're making it work so it's uh it's been pretty cool to watch i mean when you look

at what pinsky went through for some years with a struggle with um you know kurt bush and and a j amandinger doing doing whatever he did and and sam doing whatever that's a lot of wreck race cars i mean dale jr's got woods full of them so i mean it to see where they're at now i mean they had a one-two finish in indy car i read and a one-two finish in nascar roger pinsky and t j will we'll tell you this. He comes on the roof, probably half the races, and he comes around to every single one of us, and he shakes all of our hands, and he asks how we're doing, and he has a genuine conversation with you. This is an 80-year-old billionaire. He doesn't have to be nice to anybody, and he's nice as hell to us. He's not, yeah, he's, he's one of the guys that you like

seeing on the roof, and he just goes out of his way to make, to make you feel like he really cares and knows you, but he, and he's having fun, too. He's got a yacht that it takes $30,000 to put gas in it. I used to work for Roger Penske. You did? What you did? I worked in the truck leasing office. When people, when their rental trucks would break down during the summer in college,

they'd call me and I'd have to help them because my sister was an accountant there. You know what I think would be fun? It's a good place to work. You know what I think is fun? I watch them. Do you watch Indycar races once in a while? Yeah, man. I love it.

There's top 10 Mike Lynette right there. Michael Nett's here. I think it's awesome to see Roger and them calling him races. at the Indycar races. He's at, he's on there. You need more wing. Okay, you're pitting this life. Like, he's just having fun.

Like, he got, I mean, I think that's awesome. Yeah. I want to call an Indycar race. I can't keep up with those cars. They're going 196 miles. I heard that. I heard that guy say in the, like in the corner they're doing. We might as well go down here to the local funeral home.

They're going 200 on the straightway. Go to the local funeral home. Get a coffin and put four tires on it. And let's just see how fast we can go. That can't be safe. It's a pinewood derby. It doesn't look that fast on TV. Not at 196.

$196 is fast. Average lap time, not top speed. Do you guys know any spotters in Indy? Yeah. Yeah. They're not as good as we are. No. They don't have to be.

They don't pass. They don't have the traffic complicate. It's not as complex as what we do. The strategy there is on the engineer and the race strategist. It's not on the spotter. The race strategy. Now when they ran Michigan, holy cow. Now you need a spotter.

But the majority of their races, I mean, no offense of those guys. I don't know. They got a problem with it. They can find me. air and opportunity between us. But it's just not as hard as what we do. Just Mike Harmon and Aaron. Yeah.

All right, before we go to break, we can finally talk about the live door bumper clear at Whiskey River down in the epicenter in Uptown, Charlotte. on May 18th at 7 p.m. We can announce our guest, right? Yes. It is going to be a cluster. It is. Clint Boyer will be joining us at Whiskey River live on May 18th at 7. And there's a Tim Dugger concert to follow.

so you guys all got to come see us. It hurts on it. I like that song, my dogger. So he's only going to be there for like half the time realistically because he's going to not pay attention. Yeah. And I'm so excited you're going to ride the bowl, Kristen. Backwards.

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he can pour them really small. I think you're going to be great on the bowl. I think you're going to do great. Listen, I'm not 100% on this. Yeah, you are. My balance was tough yesterday. I'll bet if we asked all their viewers if they wanted you to ride the bowl, they would all say yes.

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All right, we're going into Fastlane. I'm going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate, and I'm going to alternate who responds first. Each will get 30 seconds to voice their opinion, and whoever responded first will get a 30 second rebuttal. Y'all ready? TJ, you're going first. Okay.

Both the Xfinity and Cup races had long green flag runs during the first two stages. Did you expect to see a little more action than there was during the first two stages? I thought the action was both pretty good. You had guys that were trying to get to the front. You had a couple guys that were really fast starting the back. The race winner in the Cup Series started in the back. I thought the racing was great.

I liked the long runs. I liked the action. The first stage had a yellow round lap 40, and we had a lot of guys like Dell Jr. Come to get tires, and then we had a really long run to end the stage, and to help those guys get in position to get bonus points.

I don't think the crew chiefs thought that they would see that long of a run to end stage one. I think they anticipated more cautions. But to TJ's point, I actually agree with him. I think that all of the stages and ultimately the end of the race played out well. You know, we had a caution. That first caution in the cup race was really early. Yeah. It was only what, maybe eight or nine, ten laps in or something.

It was early early because we pitted from ninth. Yeah. And I was like. With a pretty good car. With a good car. And we restarted like 27. or something like that or 30 or something like that and we got back to about 9th and I thought that's pretty neat.

The commitment square to enter pit road was a hot button subject yesterday in Richmond. Thoughts on it? Should there be a cone? Brett? No. What is the point? The commitment line, the cone, they don't change racing for the better. It doesn't make a difference.

You either get on pit road and you're able to make pit road speed or you're not. If this were a thing where I said, man, this is going to make the pit crew safer, I would be all for it, but it's not. It's so far before the first pit stall. It's completely irrelevant. You either make pit road or you don't. This thing changes nothing about the value of racing. And Brett Shasman, he got busted

and almost boned me in my pick, which really made me mad when that happened. But this is something they said they've been going to enforce for about 10 years now, but never really got enforced because there wasn't a cone there. And they picked yesterday to start on it pretty hard and heavy. So, I mean,

I'm, if they're going to do this, they need to stick with it, though. It needs to happen every time somebody clips that box on these tracks. It does you can't let all these guys and let the rest get away with it. If you're going to do it, put the cone out there. That way they hit the cone. They send it across the racetrack. Now you've got a reason for yellow versus all these rags laying around that we throw yellows for. This line and this cone make zero points in terms of whether the racing is any good or not any good. It's stupid. Do away with it. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. picked up a top five finish at Richmond. Is this team starting to turn the

corner to finishing better, DJ? I think this was Ricky Stenhouse. I could have told you this would have been his chance to shine at the beginning of the season. He's been good at the short tracks. They have found some stuff there. This is his strong point. Now we're getting ready to go back.

And honestly, I could see him having a somewhat solid run at Talladega, too. He's been pretty good at plate tracks. But I think once we get back to the mile and a half, we'll see him fade a little bit again. Ricky Stenhouse made a huge error on the first run. He was one of the guys running high. He got into the wall really hard in three. for by the time he finished the race his car was destroyed his splitter was screwed up he had all sorts of damage i mean the car the whole front clips junk the reason he finished up here is because of brian

patty he's one of the best at calling the races yeah rickie drove the car but without brian patty this guy finishes three laps down i will give rickie credit this year too he is searching and pratt is hard he's moving around like a larsen it's kind of like it's taking him a little while to get to this point but now i think he's watched kyle a little bit and he's actually moving around quite a bit is looking for speed. So we'll see if he can keep it up. I think the mile of a half is he's going to struggle. Is this how Ricky spells his name?

R-I-C-E-Y, like Mickey Mouse. Josh, is this real? He didn't even have the Junior either. Really phoned it in a day. And this is two weeks in a while. Is this the Ricky Stenhouse podcast now, this is two weeks in a row? Hey, guys.

Just continue on with the show. R-I-C-E-Y-M-O-U-S-E. Are you a closet Stenthouse fan? Yeah. He is. We are still very early in the season, but who is your sleeper pick right now to make the playoffs? Brett. Josh?

Stonehouse. We're still early. Who is my sleeper pick? My sleeper, you're going to laugh. Man, it's Dale Jr. I mean, there is no way this guy doesn't make the playoffs without a win. I think there are a lot of places coming up he can win. I think one of them obviously is Talladega this weekend.

The other ones are coming up. They're Michigan and some of those. So the pressure is now on T.J. Greg Ives, the 88 team to win a race. There's no way they make up enough points between now and Richmond to make it any other way. Yeah, I mean, I feel like we've had a lot of bad lock. I mean, we could get on a hot streak and still get back to that point. You don't have to get defensive.

The question is, lose your sleeper pick. Let me finish. We do have a lot of tracks we can win at. My sleeper pick is going to be, oh, boy. You know, I'm going to go with, oh, hang on. This is painful. One second, please. He's got to look at the whole list.

No, I know who it's going to be. The sleeper pick. How much times do you get, Kristen? Gray Goulding. Oh, man. You know, I'm going to go with Landing Castle. You're done. Brett.

If it's not Dale Jr., I got to go with an Austin Dillon. I think he showed a lot of speed early. Slugger wasn't there this weekend, and I felt like it hurt their opportunity to finish well. He started last in the race. I think your two sleepers are Dale Jr. and Austin Dillon. Yeah, I'm going to be. go somebody who's going to get a win just out of kind of like a busher type deal yeah the off-the-wall topic what is your dream vacation spot oh i'm in this one christin where shall you take what is your dream

what are we wearing i really need a beach really i thought you picked that harry potter town oh my gosh you're right i completely forgot because no one has taken me to harry potter world is it real life oh real life okay alan this is your shout-out right here This is where she wants to go. You already have the wand. Yeah. I do. And I have to sorting that.

No, I'd really like to go. I love Europe. I spend a lot of time there in high school and college. European? I like history. European? I guarantee you we'll be after this show. What are you doing, Josh?

European? Yeah, Josh, where are you going? Probably Maldives. Oh, I thought it was it. Russia? Where the hell is that? Indian Ocean. Oh, it is?

Yeah. I was in the wrong ocean. How do you get there? You fly. A long time. Maldives? I like to go to Australia. Those are like where the huts are in the water and they're all connected by little ramps and stuff.

Is that like Maldives nuts? Okay. Maldives is like the original screen saver for like windows when it's just the water and the white sand. Where are you going, doll? You know, my dream. Yeah. Go to Buffalo Bill's game. I really want to go to Iceland.

I want to go to Iceland. That sounds awesome. There's no ice. It's a lot of green there. Yeah, it's actually green. So there's a couple towns. There's no way there's hot chicks in Iceland. Have you ever heard of, is there?

Is there? I'm sure there. I'm sure. There is. You know that town? You know that town? Rekjavik or whatever. Yeah, I want to go there.

You don't pronounce the J. I don't ever go there. The Js are silent. Shogging. Yeah. Excuse me, Osh. Producer, Osh. So I would like to go there.

Myrtle Beach. That's what I'm going on. Oh my gosh. Dirty Myrtle. Mirdle. Mirdle Waves. Yeah, yeah. Mertile Waze.

That's so stupid. Mertal Pond. The Dirtle. Y'all can have all these exotic places. Just give me Mertal Beach. Mine wasn't exotic. Mine was not exotic. Yeah, mine's not exotic.

Josh is the exotic one over here. I don't even know where these things are talking. I don't even know where they're at. Geez, man. The Dirtle. I went to Murtle Beach in December because we won when we won in Kentucky. It was a visit Murtle Beach. You remember all those story about like all those restaurants and bars that

were not open. That was us. There was like four places open. Yes, because you were an off season. Yeah. But it was nice. You had the whole place to yourself. Yeah.

Brett, do you ever go down there as a teenager, cruise the strip? Dude, when I went down there, we had the magic attic. You went in the magic attic and you wore those overhauls with no shirt on. The magic. And you went in there and you break danced.

And, dude, the magic attic, somebody is listening to this right now. They know what the magic addict is. It was phenomenal. Nothing better in life than the magic attic at Myrtle Beach. God.

Magic addict. Wow. We're going into hashtag Sdbc because I don't want to hear any more about the magic addict. I just can't pick a dream vacation spot because how do you pick a dream vacation spot you've never been to? I know, I get it. Because that's a fair question. Right? Like I really want to go on this catamaran deal.

I mean, I'm gambling. I'm going to Iceland. That doesn't even sound right. British Virgin Islands and Catamaran sounds phenomenal based on what everybody else has told me. But what if I don't like? Because I went on a cruise and I've never been more miserable in my life than being on a cruise. shit. Really? Oh my God. That's because you're stuck on there. Here's where you're going to eat. Especially if they're...

Here's how you're going to dress. Here's what time you guys show up. I mean, I'm going to get to this really fun spot and you can only stay six hours. And when it gets really wild, you've got to get back on the boat and leave. Stop it. I'm on vacation. I like the Disney cruise. They were pretty fun. Well, that might be all right, but that's not different. That's different. That's for the kids. Have you been on a cruise? I have. I was on the big red boat when I was like 10. It's the Disney one around. They go around the Bahamas and then you're at Disney for three days. Well, that's different. It was good as a kid.

I mean, I'm not going to lie. I've been on two Disney cruises in the last probably five years, and I would go on it as an adult without kids. I didn't see my parents for three days. They have adult zones or whatever and pubs and stuff. It didn't pop up on my watch list. They are good cruises. And they have tons of kids programming,

so you don't even have to see your kids if you don't want to. Like, they tick your kids and there's, like, different events. My four-year-old jump off the boat. I'm going to keep an eye on my kid on a boat. No. That's a bad. I see that. He doesn't know.

They got, seriously, listen, they got a kid zone where you check your kid in, and it's not out on the edge. They're not, like, they're not Leonardo DiCaprio off the front of the boat or something here. Yes. Yes. They are completely watched. They put a wristband on them. They know exactly where they are. There's no adults in there.

Tracking device. Do you know the number one and two ways that people kill their newly found lovers? I don't look this up. They take them on a cruise and not. Knock them off the boat or they go scuba diving. I'm not going cruising and I'm not going scuba diving with you, because you need oxygen to live and if you get underwater and you can't have oxygen, you die. Well, really?

I'm not overly worried about that. But they can tell you where your kid is. So if your wife pushes it off, you know where your kid is. She'll find your kid. That rule tide went, what? Does the tracking bracelet work in the water? No. Do that boat run a 20 miles on?

You're left behind. You're going, what's that scene in the movie where she says, by to Jack? I'll never let go, Jack. Yeah, I never let go. But I'm letting go,

and I'm dunking your ass. You're dying right now. Did you ever see, there was someone made a meme of all the different ways Jack could have laid on that door with her? Yeah. But she was like a stupid bitch.

You like, just let him go. That's got to be awesome. I want to see it. I'll find it. It's hilarious. The worst line of that movie is, Jack, the water is so cold. He is laying in the water.

You think he don't know that? Yeah. He's got ice around his. Yeah. How do you think he felt when he got below the belt there? You ever got in a cold pool? That's ice water. Yeah.

Jeez, it's freezing the death. She's rose. She's so rude. It's like, it's all the different ways they could have laid on that boat together and he could have survived. That is too funny. Oh, my God. Classic. And they're playing cards in one of them.

I'm just not a cruise ship guy. I mean, I'm a boat guy. I love boats, but the whole cruise ship experience. You should take your kids on the Disney cruise. man, and you should call my wife to do it. She'll book it for you. Isn't it expensive for a family of five? I mean.

Just go to Myrtle Beach. $100 of fuel, we're there. I mean, it is. I dress up like Donald Duck. They don't know the difference. Oh, yeah. Go to My Walsh. Now you're on a watch list.

Me and T.J. I'll go to Disney Cruise. I'll wear an outfit as a character, and he'll just walk around being T. You know, that's it. You know what we should do? We should have a door bumper clear cruise. like the NASCAR deal.

On my pontoon boat. Our should be way better. Yeah, on my pontoon boat. We'll have eight people that register for the thing. We should get on the NASCAR cruise. Don't they do one every year? Yes, they did. The first one was this year and you can't get me on that.

See? You had to fly on the QS for the day. To do an appearance. He didn't never really get on the boat. Nah. They also, I remember, they had a limo company. Rough life. Like, and the.

The music acts for like... Tim Dugger? No, boy. Sonny Ledford? Sunny Lefford. I love Myrtle Beach. Right now, if you're listening to the show, Google, Sunny Lefford, I Love Mertel Beach.

It's the best song ever released. We actually listened to like five Sunny Ledford songs last night. We listened to like five of them last night in the basement. He cusses a lot. He does. Same old thing, yo. It's good. All right, I'll check it out.

You need to. At Roll Tide Win asked Brett. How do you feel about the car owner? on the radio giving advice such as which groove to run. Do you care since he's the boss? Man, I actually text back and forth with Tony after one of the races this year, and I told him I valued what he has to say for input, you know, whether it's practice or whether it's the race.

So, you know, it's not one of those things where Tony is inserting himself because he's the owner. He actually said, I don't want to be on the radio if it's bothering anything. So for me, you know, to be able to have a relationship with Tony and to be able to learn from Tony Stewart. It only helps me as a spotter. I mean, he's one of the best race car drivers to ever live. So, no, man, there's absolutely nothing negative in this for me when a guy like Tony comes over the radio.

Unfortunately, he comes over Channel 2 more than he does Channel 1, you know, because there's certainly some things he can help Clint with too. But, no, man, I valued. I think TJ will, you know, agree with what I'm saying. Yeah, sure. And I've heard he's really good on the Accentity side as well with Cole and that. I heard, and I've heard Cole Spotter say it many times, man, it's really cool to have him on the radio.

Yeah. I mean, even going back to, you know, my first deal was with the Wood brothers and Eddie Wood was on the radio a lot. And then, you know, I got the Yates. Robert Yates was on the radio. Ray Evernham's been on the radio, Richard Childress, you know, Tony Stewart. It's awesome to grow up a fan of the sport and to be now working in the sport and to be able to have that experience.

I mean, when Michael Walshrup, even a couple years ago, when he would come over the radio, he's got spotted for. He was a guy I did PR for in 1999. So I value their experience. I can tell you this, though, there are some guys, the technical guys, that don't want to hear what they have to say because they think time has passed them by. And I think that's a pretty ignorant approach to what they provide as a resource. You know what I'm saying? I think they're great to have.

There are certain situations where I don't think they should chime in on, like when things are getting heated and all that. Or if they want to come in, like, hey, just keep your cool here. But I don't know how he would want a guy like Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr. How would you not want one of them that have done this for a long time? At Travis the underscore 48S. Why is he naked? This is Sonny Ledford. Just listen to a hot start.

Sorry, Josh, you gotta get out the old edit button, bud. You know what's funny though? Josh is in a good mood today so he doesn't care. Yeah, Josh doesn't give a shit today. I never seen him smiling. The back-to-back top ten. Can we say shit? I said it twice.

I said it like ten seconds. Can't say what? Josh had to beep himself last week. He did. That was the first. He said, I'm going to get one. Sorry, we got distracted. Should NASCAR do a senior series like the PGA has to bring back in old, whatever?

Should NASCAR do a senior series like a PGA does? That might be the dumbest thing he was ever read. Should I read the fan who wrote up? They tried to do this at Bristol, and they about killed three of them, didn't they? Didn't they have like a... Oh, yeah, that was a bad one. That's your boy. The old-timer event, right?

Travis. That was real bad. Travis, this is a bad idea. Maybe like an All-Star race once a year? I mean, they seriously about killed three of them. I mean, he got loose off of two and just got completely doored. What about making them eligible for the All-Star Race once we find a good format? You know, I agree with this.

Man, it's so hard because we do have guys like Rick Mass who came to the track this weekend that we all adore. And I think it bridges a gap between some of the older fans and some of the newer fans. I think we need to figure out ways to do it. Unfortunately, I think this is extremely dangerous. The Bristol-Late model thing proved that. I can't remember which driver it was, but I mean, he got severely injured. Could have died. They had to cut them out.

I do think, and hopefully people don't view me as a feminist for saying this, but I would really love to see a female-only series that gave some of these females an opportunity to race each other. And the reason I say that is because when I look at, you know, Dale Jr. And I look at Elliott Sadler and I look at these guys that started racing at five and six years old, most females don't start at that age. They don't get into it until they're a teenager. So they're already 10 years behind on experience. And they're getting into these heavy cars that require a lot of strength.

I mean, when you look at Danica, very competitive at Indianapolis in an IndyCar. You know, ran top five took the lead. She's running 225 miles an hour. But that's a much easier car to drive from a manhandle at standpoint. I mean, I know the irony of that word sounds weird. But I would really love to see some female events. I mean, when you look at what MMA has done, when you look at what WWE is done in terms of when you look at girls softball i mean beach girls beach volleyball like i think

there could potentially be some affinity to it i don't know how you do it and position it and sell it but i mean you know i follow some folks on twitter who are female race car drivers just for the sense of i want to see what they're doing i mean carson obviously you know you're you're in a man's sport they're even more so in a man's world so i would like to see them isolated out to see if there's an opportunity to build a fan base around it even if it's a shorter race before the big race. Yeah. Something like, I don't know.

I mean, that might be a good idea. But you know what? He almost said I had a good idea and he stopped. There's worse a get out of his mouth. So you're going to have somebody dominate that. What happens then? I don't know. I think I don't know what it means.

I don't know what it looks like. I just know when we have the female race in the Legends cars at Charlotte, a lot of people get excited about that. And I personally love to see females have equal opportunity. But I also don't want to see them at a disadvantage. I mean, we've got, you know, females who want to play football. Well, you know what, I play football. Good luck with that because we're going to beat the shit out of you.

And it's not because you're female, it's because you're not capable of playing football to the level that a male can play football. And I'm not saying they can't race at the level with the males, but I just would like to see it isolated to see if it got any marketing thing around it. Or what do you think about it? What team just contracted a female punter? Was it pro? Wasn't it pro?

My only problem with that is what happens when, And they get past the defensive line. And she has. The ball. And she's fumbled it. Right. She is going to get killed. She is.

But what do you think about it? I mean, really. No, I think it's a great idea. I think the idea of having it before the actual main event is great. And I do agree that women are at a disadvantage two men in a stock car, race car. I mean, just upper body strength alone. I mean, I think Johanna Long was the most developed female. stock car driver that I've ever seen come along.

She never got an equipment that gave her an opportunity to be competitive. Yes, she ran top 10 at places like Richmond, which T.J. talked about last week. If you're going to show up and have a chance, it's going to be at a short track. And she's more talented than a lot of females who made it a lot further. But unfortunately, she didn't have the opportunities. If we had that all-female league and she was one of the three or four that actually had talent, I think to T.J's point, you know, what happens when they dominate? Well, I don't think they dominate because I think if you,

You put the tools around them. You get to see which ones have talent, which ones don't. And I don't know that their goal ever needs to be to run in the Cup series, you know, because if we can develop with MMA and WWE and, I mean, we're still in sports entertainment, regardless of what you think. I personally love to watch women's soccer, and I despise watching men's soccer. You know, like I enjoy watching girls softball, and I don't watch a lot of college baseball. I mean, because I enjoy watching the sport, you know, so I don't know.

I think it's an interesting idea. At 2-3-1, Matthew asked if you had one more race to watch Dale race, what would your pick be between the fall Talladega, the fall Richmond, or the Fall Charlotte? So Matthew is going to go to one of these three races, TJ. Which one are you going to help your driver do better at? Because that's the one he needs to go to. Man, I would go to the Fall, Talladega. It would be my pick.

I agree. It's a good one. In the playoff. It's his last race at Talladega potentially, certainly in a cup car. I'd go to there. It'd be a good one. Halloween weekends close around there sometime. Halladaga.

Freaks come out at night. They do. And it's built on an Indian burial ground, so you've got to go. At R. Smith 168 asked, do you think, can we expect to see NASCAR at a fourth manufacturer

in the near future? I sure hope so. I think it's going to happen. I hope so. Nissan. Just kidding. I hope so. When you look at Roush,

man, they've certainly steered their ship. They went from running in the middle. Did you say steer their shit? ship. Oh. I ship my pants. That Target ad?

I love that ad. You ever seen that, Josh? I ship my pants. I ship my pants. I ship my pants. I ship my pants. It's funny. That was a good commercial.

Anyway, I think teams like Richard Childress, Richard Petty, Roush, I think they could be very attractive to a new manufacturer. And, you know, the thing is you've got to have an engine program. Childress has an engine program. you know, petty doesn't.

So I think that makes, you know, like Roush, Roush Yates, well, what does that mean? Well, Roush can certainly, he's capable of doing it in his program. He did it for years. So I think that's the big kicker, don't you? I mean, where are you going to get your power plant from?

Yeah. I mean, you got to have a motor. Gotta have motor. Yeah, I really think, I really believe we'll have another manufacturer soon, though, but you got to have a motor, though. Yeah. I had an interesting conversation with some folks.

this weekend at Richmond who set up on the midway and they do some sales and I'm not going to say exactly which business it is. But they're really struggling with Richmond being a day race because when it was a night race, they had those people walking around that midway for hours upon hours on Saturday. Because we would go in on Saturday and we would work on Friday rather and we would work as spotters from 9 a.m. until 11 p.m. So there were fans mulling around there buying stuff. Now we went in for a few hours for you. So I think that when you look at some of these tracks models and you say, you know, what works, what doesn't work? Well, from a retail standpoint, that day race is kicking this vendor's butt.

So, like, we as teams a lot of times go, man, that was great. You know, it worked for us. But when you look at some of these track models, that's going to hurt some of those track sponsorship deals because that particular company won't be able to come back and say, I'm going to stay here because it's just a retail angle change. And I've got to think Fanatics is in that same boat. You know, they had less hours to sell merchandise. And that's going to matter. You know, this is a really complex model we live in. What about would you trade less souvenir sales for better racing?

Well, we would say absolutely, you know, and I think from a fan-based standpoint, you have to say absolutely. I mean, if you have some of these heavy, I mean, the reality is 20% of the drivers are doing 80% of the business. So you're looking at 7 to 8 drivers are doing 80% of the business in that souvenir area. They may have a different perspective. I think it hurt when we got rid of the trailers because that was something that the people love. Culture. That was, I'm not going to lie. One of the first NASCAR ever went to when I saw the souvenir rigs, I was like, wow.

It was like Christmas, man. It was like, there they are. I see the tent now and I'm like, oh, great. It's just a different culture. I mean, one of our NASCAR executives went to a PGA event, and it was a Masters, and he liked the way they did their merchandise model, and he bidded out the, the way the NASCAR piece was going to work, and this is what they came back with.

But I'm a big fan of a souvenir merch haulers. Yeah. I've also heard they might be returning. Yes, that is a rumor in the rumor mill. Yeah. It's also better for sponsors. It's another hauler going down the road every weekend from race. I think it's just better for the people, man.

You get to, you're going to have. You're going to have. It's just something about seeing those rigs lined up at the track and people just walking to them and through them. It's cool. Yeah. Do you guys have anything to, rant about today. Actually, I'd like to do a shameless plug.

We wanted both spotters yesterday, or we went in both spotters tomorrow on Fox Sports is off track at 4 o'clock with Caitlin Vincy and me. But there is a test tomorrow and Brett will be there. T.J. should be there, but he will be at court in the morning. So we snagging T.J. That'll be at 4 o'clock with Caitlin Vincent, Vincy, and hopefully we can get bread on sooner. It's going to be awesome. I love that show. I'll watch you guys.

It's great. You're sweet. Thank you. I'm so looking forward. Do we do makeup? Do we do makeup? I'll do your makeup. Okay.

I'll shave your net. Sweet. All right, you guys got a rant, or is that about the caution? You know, my rant would be we have to have more, we need better exfinity rate. We need better. We need the expedit rates to be called better. We don't have, we, this short track stretch has done nothing but show me every time we hear this, hold the one to go. I can't tell you how many times we've heard in the last three weeks.

I'm tired of hearing the hold of one to go. The call one to go when we hear it in our ear, it means we're going. green. Yes. To what CJ's saying is, they're saying, well, no, we're not going green. Hang on a minute. Just, there's not, there's simply not enough time at Bristol, Martinsville, and Richmond to have cars pit, some stay out, have wave-arounds, get all that handled and lined up correctly, and these

are line sensitive racetracks. You want to be in a certain line that you deserve, and if someone's in that line, you should be in, it's not right. We should just double up with the two to go, give NASCAR an extra lap and a half to get the field set right, and then go green. And the ending in that Xfinity race, I had no idea what was going on. I heard put it out coming out of turn 4. I did not see a yellow flag.

I saw a white flag and we're still racing. Right. Don't know. So I don't know what's going on. Justin asked me, are we still going? I'm like, dude, I don't know. Just race them. I don't care.

Whatever. We'll go to the trailer if we got to. What TJ's really getting to is we're running entirely too many laps under yellow. We're running more laps under yellow than what we should have to run. And it's because the organized chaos that is the race, individual managing all of that can't make it run smoothly. So we're having to run more laps under yellow as a result. I counted at Bristol during Xfinity race about 20 laps that I thought we ran under yellow that we

shouldn't have ran. And if we get it more organized, on Sunday, we don't do that. The guy who runs a race on Sunday did a better job. All T.J's really asking for from this is that the fans get more green flag racing. What was that comment you made in the Xfinity race that it's the first time you've ever seen drivers not be able to line up correctly the first time? Was that at the start of the race? Well, what they're, I remember when that was.

What's happening is this, the front row was rookies. It was Daniel Hemrick, right? And the 20, Kyle Benjamin. The Benjamin kid. So we're behind the pace car and they're a full straightaway off the pace car. Oh, I know. That's what it was. I had no idea what they were doing.

I'm like, all right, well, pace cars at pit road speed. He's at half a track in front of you. In my 20 years of watching racing, I've never seen the front row be a straightaway behind the pace car. And I just made the comment of, what the hell are these idiots doing? I guess it's because they're, there are rookies and maybe I don't know wake up i think one was scared to pull up without the other ones they were like oh you go first no you go first no you go first well when we took the green the 20 act like he didn't want to go green so maybe yeah he did actually he didn't want to go

green we were all looking each are like hello we're gonna catch up what are we gonna do like pace cars in you're 30 from the mark yeah and once again the guy calling the race hasn't said anything so we're just i don't know it was but the whole thing was baffling i mean tj makes a really good point in his rant so i mean that that put it out i turn four and then we take the white flag. We had to put it out of turn forward. That means we're still racing. Yeah.

We didn't cross that line back there. It's confusing. It is. So in the hashtag DBC picks, TJ actually didn't suck this week and he beat Brett barely. I was in a weird spot. He picked my driver,

so I couldn't pick somebody. And you picked Chris Boucher. Yeah, so I was like, if I'm going to pick somebody to beat my guy, that's going to be weird during the race, I'm going to be cheering against my guy. So I didn't do that. So I took a bar.

And I'm telling you, with two to go was when Clint passed him. So it almost... Whatever you got to do to justify your sucking is here. The underdog... Brett is still kicking your ass, 6 to 3. The underdog almost pulled it out,

which I was never cheering for the underdog. I've went with the underdog a couple times. I mean, I whipped you with Brendan gone. Yeah. You gone. You have. So we're going into Talladega. You guys got to pick your winners,

and T.J. don't take forever. I get to pick first. Yep. I know you're going to pick my dude, too. I'm going to have to go out on a limb here. And the only wrist with this pick is whether or not his spotter is up to the task because lately they have been wrecking a lot in these plate races so it's time for Dale Jr.

Oh, so now you're trying to turn it back on me. To be the man at Talladega, we're going to rename it Deladega when he wins this damn thing and I'm going to get another winning pick. Yeah, we're going to win in the fall now. Seven to three. So I don't know if I want to. You take forever. I don't know if I want to use this guy yet.

Use him. I mean, you want to be scared. You went out with a big shot here. Do I bring out the big guns here or what do I do? I mean, you know what? I'm probably not going to pick him again this year, so I'll go ahead and take McMurray. Oh, Mr. Change Lanes a lot, Jamie McMurray. If you don't hook his ass, he might win.

You damn right. There you go. Michael Annette is in the house. Michael, who do you have to win the cup race at Daga? Yeah, you just pick for the winner. Martin True X. Jr., you fantasy players heard it here first. Toyota's man, they're not what they were. Hadn't hurt a lot of them this year.

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