Door Bumper Clear - 6 - The SoCal Life: Banana Hammocks and Grilled Octopus

Episode Date: March 15, 2016

Brett and TJ discuss topics from Phoenix to Auto Club and we get some insight on Brett’s downtime in southern California (or something along those lines). Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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You're in. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major, Spotter, the 88 in the Cup series and the 7 in the Xfinity series. And joining me from long distance today would be the one and only. Hey, guys, Brett Griffin. Spotter for Elliot Sadler. Clint Boyer, and I'm actually in the Thousand Oaks, California, just north of L.A., and really thankful that one main is bringing this show to you guys today, and we also have our lovely co-hosts.

Hey, guys, this is Kristen, and I work in the marketing and sponsorship department here at Junior Marysports. Did you read that this week? Yeah, she did read it right off the paper. I added end sponsorship. Maybe about, like, after the, you know, one of the October or November races, she'll have a memorandum. Homestead.

Homestead. Hopefully. That's a long shot. Did you ever hear back about how many, she got how many dates she got asked on last week after our Huston mingled? You know, I had heard she got like a hundred new followers, so we're going to have to work on that. We got to up the level of the, you know, the pool a little bit. We got to get the pool bigger for her.

Sure. I think everybody should tweet her and they should copy me and you and they should attach it. I took a picture over. My phone will blow up. I took a picture of her just. took a picture of her just a few minutes ago and she's making a really cute face so i think we should i'll tweet that and i'll tag you and we'll see what christian mingling can come up come up with yeah we got to market her a little better because i don't think we had a real productive week last week

we'll work on it the west coast kind of gets us out out of the sink a little bit on it so we'll work on it for you brutal well yeah being of west coast this is the last week coming up man what do you think about phoenix the race uh i thought the cups race was really good i noticed guys catching each other and passing each other. It's a little bit different than we've had in the past. A lot of times you could catch somebody and you still have to follow them a little bit. But with the new rolls package, I saw guys moving around and able to pass still. So that was a little refreshing.

I think the Xfinity Series could use a little bit of work in that direction with the cars to, you know, make them harder to drive where the guys, you know, can pass and there's more separation, you know, more, you know, just guys happen to drive harder and having to work. Yeah, the Xfinity series, I mean, Gibbs is just, they're dominant right now. They're running one, two, three every week, and I think you and I could get in the cars and still run one, two, and three with them. I agree. They're that good.

Our junior motorsports cars were really good, another top ten effort for all three teams. You know, Elliot certainly had a lot better car than fifth, but we had some things happen on pit road that cost us some spots and cost us some time. But, you know, I feel like our car was a fourth and fifth place car, so definitely going in the good direction. Yeah, the cup race for me, man, was a snooze best. I was pretty excited about your experience. A single-file racing, and just in general, I didn't see a ton of passing. You know, I feel like it was an old Car of Tomorrow race, you know, where it was a snooose fest. And then at the end, we throw, get a late race caution, and then we put on a hell of a show for the finish, which, by the way, it was a hell of a finish.

And Kevin and Carl were getting after it. I think it was really cool, though, that tires mattered. You know, we still saw the guy with no tires, hold him off. But when you have different strategies play into the end of the race where guys are on no tires, two tires and four tires, and it makes a difference. I think that adds a way more exciting element than everybody just staying out and repeating what we've been watching for the last 310 laps. Yeah, I think before the last four or five races, you couldn't see cars come from the back to the front very easily. They had to do, they had to have some strategy stuff happen. And this last race, I mean, we started 26 and we drove up to 6th, the very first run.

And Jimmy came from the back and Denny after, you know, early to mid-race penalty, was able to drive back up through there as well. So I saw a little more passing, and I saw the guys having to drive harder than what I think they have in the past. But as far as a pretty successful Xfinity race, like you said, for all the junior motorsports cars. And even like, you know, you got Elliott and your rookie crew chief there, Kevin did a good job of getting a dial-in for the race. And you guys had a solid run, not what it should have been, but definitely something to build off of. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Kristen, why don't you take us into the next segment? We are going into spot-on, spot-off.

Brett, you want to explain a little bit about what that is? Yeah, yeah. So these guys are going to rattle off some topics. Producer Josh usually comes up with all of our stuff. And D.J. and I'll tell you if it's spot on or spot off. The Phoenix Recap, seventh closest finish in NASCAR history. Man, spot on.

What a great deal. I mean, you know, Carl comes from the back with tires. Kevin's got no tires. Kevin's pretty much the best guy, Phoenix. You know, no arguing that. So to be able to see Kevin hauled off. a guy with tires. They're beating and banging. Carl tried to move him out of four. Man, great, great finish for the fans. Yeah, definitely spot on there. I hate to agree with them, but definitely

spot on. That was awesome to see somebody get up there. That was short tracking, man. That's what we need more of. It'd be awesome if we could do that at South Boston and Myrtle Beach. Jimmy Johnson's steering wheel, spot on or spot off? Oh, that's definitely spot off. We saw a really bad accident a few years ago during an Xfinity race where Steve Park steering wheel popped off and Larry Foy hit him and it injured Steve really, really bad and never he never really recovered from that. He came back and raised some, but he was certainly not the deep park that we came to know. So, you know, that's just one of those deals. It's an accident. All of these drivers have interior guys and the interior guy's job is literally to make sure the

driver's compartment is safe. And it's also to assist the driver when the driver gets in the car and buckles in. And part of that process is popping the steering wheel off and on. And the driver has to make sure it's locked in, and that interior guy also has to make sure it's locked in. Before the race is start, we actually have officials to help us make sure that it's locked in. So, T.J., tell them a little bit about, you race, tell them a little bit about the steering wheel, why it has to pop off and how the whole thing actually works. Yeah, the way the steering wheels are these days, you wouldn't be able to get into the car as tight as they are to the seat and how your leg is going underneath the steering wheel.

You wouldn't be able to get it out of the car without having the steering wheel off. But over the years, they've obviously made it easier. It's probably the first or second thing that you learn when you get in a race car. You learn when you first get in, the first thing you kind of learn is how to do your belts and make sure they're all hooked and how to pull down on them and snug them up really tight. And the second thing you learn is when you put the steering wheel on, you hear it click and you actually tug back on it and pull it to you to you to make sure it will not come off. So, you know, like it's good to have an interior guy check that stuff.

But, you know how it isn't qualifying sometimes when you're trying to get out and make a quick run or, you know, you're running out of time. They're trying to get certain stuff done and the window net up and stuff. It's mainly the driver's job to actually put that steering wheel on and pull it back on to make sure it's safe. But we just get so comfortable with it over the years that when you put it on there, it locks 99% of the time. It's going to lock, and, you know, you're not going to have a problem with it. But in this distance, it didn't. So hopefully it'll bring some light back to that, and these guys will make sure that. they check their steering wheels and we don't have an accident like that.

Again, we saw a lot of, we saw a lot of pretty hard hits at Phoenix this weekend throughout practicing the races and stuff, even qualifying now. So hopefully that brings some light back to this and these guys can start checking that pretty solid again. The other thing is, I mean, when they wreck, the steering wheel is actually a tool they use, before they hit the wall. I know Elliott likes to grab the bottom of the wheel and get the fetal position before he, you know, is going to hit the wall.

So, I mean, in Jimmy's situation, when it pops off, man, he is literally a long. for the ride with nothing to even hold on to or hang on to before he gets. Yeah, you definitely hold onto the wheel. It's kind of, like you said, you don't want your hands flying all over and hitting stuff, so you're gripping the wheel pretty hard. And I'll lose that. As hard as he hit, that had to be pretty, I wouldn't want to go through it. No, heck no, man, I'm with you.

Lapped cars make it difficult to race, spot on or spot off. Oh, man, spot on. They make it difficult to race, but they're a part of the show, and they have every right to be racing there, and they need to be, you know, they're running their own race. everyone has their own race, and it might be, you know, the 30 race and the 98 for 25th, but that's important to them at the time. So, you know, the last run of the race, if you're spread out, it's give and take.

You give more than you take at that point. But, you know, I kind of enjoy lap cars. They make it interesting. Slow cars and fast cars are what makes it a race. I will say this, though, you know, we have this long-standing debate or NASCAR drivers, athletes. and when you have a guy like Mike Harmon who clearly, by looking at this guy, you can tell he's not an athlete, right?

And then you take the guy, and if he's at minimum speed, I'll guess everybody's ass on a grandstand. The car's in the way, there's a difference in being part of the show and being in the way. The guy was in the way, the entire race, or whoever was driving a 74 this week in the 15, man. Those guys were super annoying.

Come on, man. You know, I think you and Mike might have the same mentality, man. You're both athletes. You're not trying to be the best at working out. Melted beads lead to tire failure. Teams are good year. Spot on, spot off. Teams, 100%.

We got the fans to cool them, and we take temperatures throughout practice, and even during the race, we have temperatures from the wheels and we pull them off. So you've got to manage that stuff correctly and take care of your equipment. Yeah, I mean, a lot of pressure is on good year

to produce a good race. I mean, at the end of the day, the tire is what is actually touching the racetrack. And if it's a good tire, we're going to put on good race. If it's not a good tire, we're not. And good year fears tire failure for obvious reasons. So when you have, you know, when I saw the first RCR car hit the fence, I was like, huh, I wonder if we have a tire problem or a setup problem. And then you see another RCR car hit the wall and you're like, man, it's probably an RCR problem. And then you see another car hit the wall and you're like,

well, maybe it's not an RCR problem. Maybe it's a tire problem. So I'm not 100% up the speed on exactly what was going wrong. But at the end of the day, I want good year to stay aggressive on giving us good tires that are going to have fall off and create passing. And I feel like they've done that for the most part, you know, this year. I feel like that, you know, at the end of the day, this probably does fall on teams. Yeah, I'll tell you, we were having, Dale Jr. forgot to flip his fans on one run during the race, and he lost a lot of his brake pedal, and that's when we were running about fifth or sixth. And he didn't realize, and we told him fans on everything, he just didn't flip a mom, and he lost his pedal.

but then he realized that after that run, we had a caution. And he flipped him back on. Hey, with you guys, when you drove up under Green and took the lead, man. Did he say anything over the radio or did you say anything? No, I told him, you know, clear driving way, then he just wanted a peace and quiet. Yeah. So, but he... That's really entertaining.

Great answer. Yeah. He likes to get in a rhythm, man. He doesn't... He gets in the zone when he is driving and he doesn't, you know, you try to give important stuff. But he gets in a really good rhythm and you just try not to try not to try to. not to, you know, get them out of it. Hey, those fans are.

We had an issue. We had an issue on lap five. Clint's out there running and, you know, we started in the back. We're passing some cars. He keys up and says, I've got a loose wheel, which. Jesus. You're not supposed to ever have a loose wheel to start the race. Nonetheless, we had a loose wheel.

So we lose two laps. We come back out. You know, we're running. You guys are racing. And the next thing I hear Clint give him going, holy shit, man, is that Dale Jr. leading behind me? And Dale Jr. and Clint hung out a bunch in Vegas. Yeah.

You know, the week leading and a beat. So it's cool when those guys. guys get to bond and then they're happy for each other when they do well you know i will say clint did did um host us one time he let del jrneur bring a um a handful of our crew out to uh his house at the ozarks one time and it was a lot of fun Clint was a really really cool guy and uh he's just normal fun dude to hang out with yeah there's nothing more fun than going to leg of the ozarks during the middle of the summer if our millions of listeners have got to go to leg of the ozarks and i'll even meet them there Yeah, I threw up.

What? All right, what do you got, Kristen? All right, let's go into the next segment, which is Fastlane. A quick overview. I'm going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate, and I'm going to alternate who responds first. Each of them will get 30 seconds to voice their opinion, and then whoever responded first will get a 30-second rebuttal. Four of the six topics will pertain to racing, and two will be what we consider off-the-wall non-racing. Re-what?

Oh, are we going to do this? We're going to do this. every episode. All right, ready? Brett, this goes to you first, okay? So NASCAR has announced that they're going to look into restricting contact between suspended crew members and the non-suspended crew members at track. This comes mainly from the 78 crew chatting with their suspended crew chief via FaceTime.

Is this something NASCAR should be able to police or something that's going to happen regardless? Man, that's a tough one. I honestly think with technology. you're going to have a hard time, you know, not being able to get to your crew chief. I mean, the crew chief can look at lap times literally online on the computer. They've got message boards and message rooms and all kinds of apps like FaceTime that they can use to talk to each other. So I don't know how you can police it. I mean, clearly you can say you can't do it, but at the end of the day,

if the crew chief has all those tools, I don't know how you're going to be able to keep them away. Yeah, I don't know how you police it either, other than sitting a guy on the pit box with them monitoring what they would do. But there's so many ways you can contact each other between texting and messenger services and FaceTime. FaceTime, I'm not even sure, would really work out during the race. It'd be loud and it'd be hard to hear. But as far as just texting and chatting, it's going to be hard. But I definitely like the fact that they're trying to get rid of a guy from calling a race home.

Maybe we do away with the crew chief suspensions and we just put them in jail for that weekend. Like literally put them in a jail. NASCAR jail. That'll 100% keep them from being able to talk to their team. Otherwise, I think it's a lost call. TJ, this is going to start with you. Since 2012, Kevin Harvick has won six out of the last eight races at Phoenix. As spotters, do you look at the lines that he runs at PIR and look to mimic that or does he just have it figured out there?

Every driver has tracks are really good at, and Phoenix is Kevin Harvick's track. He's really good there. He's obviously good at other places, but when you go to a short track like Phoenix, he's going to be a factor. It's not necessarily the line that he runs. He just knows the feel that he's looking for, and he's gotten really good at telling his crew chief what he wants, and, you know, Rodney's done a really good job of figuring out how to give it to him. But you definitely look at what they do and run, but it doesn't mean your car is going to run there. Yeah, I definitely watch him.

attention to his line at Phoenix and at all the places where he's fast. I mean, we all know who the best drivers are at certain racetrack. And Kevin is certainly the hottest driver right now in Phoenix. So we 100% pay attention to what he's doing. In his entry into the corner, a lot of places can be a lot different than what other guys are doing. So you have to pay attention to that arc and how he gets to the bottom. And again, he's obviously really good at figuring it out. He and Rodney.

Brett, I like your line Sunday. Most of the time it was on the apron. It wasn't fun. Go ahead. Brett, who is the most underrated driver in the Cup series right now? Oh, man, right now I think you've got to go with Austin Dillon. I mean, this kid's busting off top 10s left and right. They had a lot of speed at some of the downforce tracks.

I think it'll be very interesting to see what happens this weekend at California because this is such a great race track. And we kind of set ourselves up to get ready for the summer because we'll leave California, hit a couple short tracks, and then we're on a mile and a half downforce run for the summer. So I think Austin right now is probably the most underrated guy out there. I don't know if Austin's really underrated because he's kind of coming into the role that everyone kind of expected him to take over when he first started.

He's starting to run like he's figuring it out and starting to put together some solid finishes. So I don't know if he's really, I think he's kind of coming around to where he should be. Maybe my underrated driver might be, I don't know, kind of drawing a blank. Maybe a guy that hasn't had a really good ride to show his talents. Maybe I'll tell you what, I like what Dee Benedetto is doing in 83. Yeah, DeBadetto's certainly running top 20 in equipment that may or may not be top 20 worthy. But I think Austin came in with very high expectations. I mean, he's a truck series champion, it's a Finity Series champion.

And then, man, for whatever reason, struggled to stay in the top 20. And now he's consistently doing that. I mean, there's Landing Castles and other guys out there that you can say are underrated. But I think right now it's awesome. How important is car number to a team's identity? T.J. I think everyone who sees the car and they associate it with a team. Like it just become second nature.

You just kind of get used to it. People get tattoos and stuff. So it's pretty important. I don't know. I think it's very important. Part of the brand of the team. So, you know, the fans can't see the driver when he's in the car when they're sitting in the fans. They can't see the car numbers.

So I think car numbers are extremely important. Clearly there are numbers that have been made. super famous in our sport like the 43, the 3, the 21. So, I mean, you see those car numbers on cars and it's nostalgic. It's cool. And you think of, you know, the king driving to 43 and they'll earnhard driving to 3. So, man, it's super important from a branding, marketing, and even sometimes the sponsorship perspective.

We've got the one on the one main car. Yeah. Once again, I think it's people see a number and they just associate it, doesn't it? They don't even have to think about it. They see, obviously, they see the three. They go right to Richard Childress, you know, now you see the 24, it's Hendrick, no matter what. When you see 24, it's no matter what car it's on, where it's at,

you think of Jeff Gordon and Hendrick Motorsports. I think it's just become second nature to people. The first off-the-wall topic, Brett, Steph Curry is probably the best player in the NBA right now and the most popular one. Do you believe in the hype? Will he go down in the books as one of the greats alongside Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kobe?

Man, I think he's the best shooter to ever live. I mean, this guy's broken his own three-point record three years in a row, and the season isn't even over yet. I mean, this guy's still got 15, 20 games to play. So he's definitely one of the best shooters. Right now, he's one of the best players. I don't know how long, you know, his body will let him stay as athletic as he is as far as, you know, his ball movement and stuff.

But, yeah, he's absolutely one of the best players ever played a game. And the cool part, he's one of the shorter ones to do it. I mean, he's an Allen-Iverson height with just mad skills. I appreciate the short compliments there. Yeah, he's definitely. Like he said, one of the best shooters. Now, will he be the best ever? That's only, we're going to need another seven, eight years to tell that because you remember

Derek Rose that was really good and then he got hurt. And now there's so many memes and give files about him that he's just not to say he won the MVP and he never came back and was the same player ever since. So I like what I see in Steph Curry and he's really fun to watch and entertaining. And I hope he comes to Charlotte. It comes down to wins in our sport. He's got to win races. It comes down to championship.

in their sport. So he has one championship. If he can continue to get number two, number three, number four, number five, there's going to be no debating how great he is. The second off-the-wall topic, T.J., astronaut Scott Kelly spent an entire year in space. If you had to, if you had the opportunity to go to space, would you? And would you go for a year in a day to break his record? I would not go to space for a year. I've watched that Mars movie, the Martian. Yeah, I've watched that and that guy spent way too much time up there. I like too many things on Earth to go to Mars. Unless there's like a really cool city on Mars that you can go and hang out in, I have no reason to go to Mars. I hate to fly. I think if I had an opportunity to go to the moon, I would probably

just have to take a bunch of annex and get on the space shuttle and risk it and go to the go do it, man. It looked really cool. That guy's always tweeted out great pictures. I would be very worried about how you go to the bathroom with zero gravity though. That scares me probably the most. I mean, if you got some pressure, you're good, right? If you got a little pressure, it's like writing your name in the snow. No, it's not. We can just catheter you.

Or you could do that. I mean, the catheters don't work, you know, all the time. So, I think that's kind of. It seems like it could get really messy really quickly, just based on the whole zero gravity. Yeah, splat. Nice ending to that. Okay, so we have chosen. You brought it up.

Yeah. He brought it up. It's true. We have chosen the best or funniest five hashtag Ask DBC questions to ask the guys here today. At the end, the guys will choose their favorite question that I posed to them, and the person that asked the question

will receive an Elliot Sadler autographed hat in the mail from yours truly. This one comes from at SBT, Cobra John. Do most or any spotters get paid just a spot or are there other jobs that they have on the team? I think most spotters are now full-time spotters. There's probably only two guys I can think of offhand that also work on the cars and I think one of them might be on the 23

and I think Tab Boyd, who spots for Lugano, might also work in the shop as well. But other than that, I think pretty much everyone else is just full-time spotters. Yeah, I actually am a full-time spotter and also run a marketing company and I also manage Elliot. So I've got three jobs. DJ is a stay-at-home dad during the week. So TJ is absolutely right. I mean, for the most part, you know, these guys are full-time spotters now. It requires so much of our time, you know, on Friday and Saturdays and obviously the race on Sunday.

But we're up there, man, you know, six, seven, eight, nine hours a day. Me, just know that right now, as I got up and fed my little girl this morning and got her to school, Brett got up and probably sipped some tea in a banana hammock on Northern California or Southern California, wherever he's at. That's quite the visual. Working his other jobs. It's delightful. Hey, Bloody Mary's and cell phones allow everything to happen. And banana hammocks.

It's easy. All right. Our second question comes from at NASCAR Fan 88 underscore 54. If you guys could build your own track, where would it be and what characteristics would it have? Go ahead. Man, I am a huge fan of like the Denver, Colorado area. So I think it's such a pretty place, and I think racing in the summer there would be fantastic. So I would build a track on the west side of Denver, and I would make it like a Bristol, man.

We got enough big tracks. I love short track racing, and that's 100% what I would do. The altitude would be crazy there. That would be interesting to see how that factors into the drivers and the. Yeah, we used to race at Pike's Peak. The legal stuff. Oh, wow, that's right. All the legal stuff you can get there and nowhere else.

I would build either a Martinsville that I could run at night or a Talladega, and I would put it in Southern California, but probably closer to civilization that would like to come and see it. I think there's a market there for the people, but I don't think, you know, we need to give them some excitement. We need to either go really, really fast or beat and bang. And I think a Saturday night Martinsville race out there might be pretty fun. This third question comes from at Antsou 1. How is it determined where you stand on the spotter stand?

Do you always stand beside the same person? Strength, and I win. No, we kind of all been doing this. We've got a group of us, probably 30 of us that have been doing it for years and years, 10 years probably, or more with some of them. We've been going to the same spots every track we go to, so we just kind of know where we're going and you just you know we move around a little bit like you know this weekend you might stay next somebody else and you go just you just like where

you're at and then it's kind of fun because you can be next to another guy and Fontana you'll be next a different guy in Phoenix and you kind of talk to him and get you know you kind of learn about their personal life a little bit more and get caught up even though you kind of know them but you just go to where you're used to and where you always stood for the last handful of years to me as long as I'm not beside anybody smoking a cigarette I'm fine so there's no seniority to you stand? No. Does anyone ever get, has fights occurred?

The only time we have a problem is when we go to Indy, Rocky Ryan usually goes to the roof at like four in the morning and marks his corner off. And that's kind of it. So no one's ever gotten in a fight over a spot? Not over a spot. You just move the guy's tape if you're standing there already. You just move it. It'd be like, dude, I've been staying here for like 15 years.

And that's basically it. Gotcha. Fourth question from at T-Bay Finn. What is the one amenity or comfort? that every spotter stand should have. Bathroom, man. Bathroom and it'd be awesome if we had roofs. Some little type of awning or something to stand under half the time.

What do you think? Yeah, during the summer, I would 100% vote for a shade. I'd like to go over us because, man, it's hot. But if we're not going to get a shade, at least give us a cooler of water. Because if we take water's up there and it's 100 degrees, then our water's 100 degrees, you know, an hour later. So some tracks were really good at it. Phoenix, for example, gave us tons of water for the weekend.

and some of the goes, you don't give us anything. So we definitely need water or we need shade. Places like Phoenix, Dover, I'm trying to think of a couple other tracks that throw coolers up there for us. And they actually do fill it with some waters and stuff. And they put ice in it. So if you did bring your own drink of your choice, you know, you like some soda or something. You can stick it in there and keep it cold. So it's nice to see some of the tracks take a, you know, a tiny bit of interest in what we do

and how long we're up there and show a little care for us. Yeah, George Chitwood last year at Dayton. and when we race at like three in the morning Pizza he actually brought us pizza which was awesome you don't see me

presidents or racetracks worried about spotters so that was really cool for him to do that. That's cool. Who won that race? Not me. What you got next?

At M. Bishop Photos, the weirdest thing that you have ever seen from the spotter stand. Go ahead. Why you have too many? My good friend Billy O

who now spots for Paul Menard and I were at Daledegaa and just well-endowed lady about 10 rows below us. She flashed us. So that was probably the weirdest thing I've seen from the roof. And man, I know she's a listener.

And so just want to give her a shout out. We appreciate that. I don't get it. What do you mean? Big lungs? What do you? I don't know. Like Brett said, you see some, I think at Talladega when we go there, we see there.

There's always this group of people that dress like they're from the 80s or something. and they wear the, sometimes I have fluorescent stuff on. They just came from a glow stick party. And the next time you see in the little lady, they got mullets and all sorts of stuff. Yeah, and it's actually kind of funny. I will say that one time I saw a guy that every time Carl Edwards would go by, he would motion him very, very. With a little finger.

No, it wasn't even the finger. I've saw little kids give Kyle Bush the finger before, though. So after he wrecked Dale Jr. at Richmond a long time ago, like the next month I saw kids in the front row just giving Kyle the finger every time they came by. But this guy would, you know, motion. Ew. I don't. Brett, you know what I mean?

The fence at Richmond was pretty badass, too. I'm not encouraging people to do that. That's dangerous. Don't do it. But, man, I looked down there and I'm like, holy crap, there's a guy on top of the fence. Yeah, I don't ever do that, Kank. Is that, if that fence, if you fall over that, man, that's going to be. This is definitely the best question.

Whoever asks this wins the hat, though. How about that, was it last year of the year before they had the great Willenda, Nick Willenda, he did the tightrope walking over the track in Charlotte Motor Speedway? Yeah. I was very anxious for about 10 minutes. I think that orange blowing across the track at Chicago that one time during qualifying for the Xfinity cars was pretty interesting. Do you remember that?

Yeah, that's cool. I think, I think, who was on the track? track. I can't remember who was, it was, that dude that drives the model, Todd Zegady was qualifying in Joe Nemech's car. And the big blow-up orange came for Tropicana came blowing across the track. So that was interesting. All right. So according to you guys, at Amb Bishop Photos gets the Elliott Sadler autographed hat. And heck, I'm going to throw in an autographed hero card too. Yeah. Cool. So Brett, do you have anything that you'd like to rant about today for T.J. to jump in on? anything of particular.

I think people are just too sensitive, you know, in today's world in general. I mean, whether they're talking about race and politics or whatever, man, people need to get thicker skin and stop being so wimpy and stop letting other people's opinion offend you. It's a free country. You're free to have your opinion. If you don't like what somebody says, then don't listen to them. Unfollow them on Twitter. Just have some common sense, people. Quit being so wimpy and sensitive.

Hear, here. Yeah. You know, everyone has different opinions. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have to make a big deal out of it. You know, everybody is going to find something offensive. I don't like the way Kristen just drank the water out of the water bottle. I'm very offended by that. You should be.

You know, everybody's just too worried about everybody else. Just do your own deal and have fun. Don't waste your time worrying about other stuff. So, yeah. I got the 48 right now. Cali predictions. TJ just took the 48. Oh, man, that's a great pick.

Jimmy Average is like a first place finish out there. Well, you took, dude, you took. You took Harvick at Phoenix. You always take his. I let you pick first. So you can say I guess out there, Arvick, because you didn't pick him.

I'm not either Harvick or the field. It's very clear that's the best guy, right? He didn't have to pick Harvick. The other best guy, and Kyle Busch will win at California. You could have picked, you could have picked Landon to win Phoenix, and I would have picked the field.

I could just about pick anybody and be whoever you're picking. Right. And to be honest. I'm like on fire. My worst finish is third. And to be honest, I gave you the pick. first and you took the field. Look, yeah, I took the field. I honestly thought that Harvard could be

beat this time. So, um, and he, he almost did. He almost did. I actually anticipate California being a great race because the straightaway speeds are very, very high and the corner speeds are very low, which means they're on the brakes, they're free roll and they're having to drive these cars. If these guys go out there and can run wide open, it's a snooze best. It's boring. So you're going to drive them. A great race this weekend with this rules package. I don't know. What's your, what's your, I'm going to do the over under on you, 25? I'll take under on that for sure. Really?

We're definitely going to run better than 25th. I'll take the over. This is one of Clint's best tracks. I mean, our cars have certainly had some struggles and some grimlins and, man, it's been, it's been a challenge, but this is one of Clint's better tracks. If we get it close, I know that, I know we can run better than that. Yeah, I don't, I mean, Phoenix is tough. I mean, all got her finished 18th in that car, but, you know.

Yeah, you got our test. What's that love? I just mess with him. I just mess with it. Yeah. There's a lot of different things. A different rule package, different car, different engineering.

I mean, it's a different year. I mean, and obviously Justin's a, you know, a good driver at short tracks. Not taking anything away from him, but he wouldn't. No, it's different. It's different now. You know, it's different now anyway, though. But hey, what about, did you eat,

how's the octopus? Oh, that was a gross picture. Man, we're eating it tonight. Yes. That's disgusting. That was nasty. It is. I'll tweet another picture tonight.

No, you're good. The last night, we started cooking the octopus, and tonight we're going to, we're going to grill it. And I'll tweet another picture, man. I'm out here with my buddy Kevin. He manages Blake Shelton. We're going to get Blake on this show, by the way.

We're going to figure out a way maybe around Texas to get Blake on. And then Casey Kane's bus driver, Brad Little's here with us. So we're going to grill out tonight, man, drink some beers and eat some oxford. Yeah, that sounds all in banana hammocks. That's going to be awesome. It's the grossest visual. Curly straws, banana hammocks, and octopuses. TJ is obsessed with you in a banana hammock, and it's quite a great thing.

He sent me this picture. Oh, I don't know. What? T.J. has a fatuation with bananas anyway. This is normal lingo. I'm going to leave that one alone right now. All right, everybody. Well, I appreciate you joining us.

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