Door Bumper Clear - 69 - The Flying Sandwich

Episode Date: July 24, 2017

We all survived Indy and have some great stories to share. What really happened with the flying sandwich. KB hears she is a gamer. Josh has a burner phone. Brett and TJ talk about being humble in this sport. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Outside, door, bumper, clear of the 18th, best car I've had here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you, you're clear. Check the flag. You're in. Oh, yeah! Hey, everybody.

I am DJNator of the 88 Cupcar, the 7xfinity car and the 29 truck. Joining me, Brett Griffin. Spotter for Elliott Sadler and Clint Boyer in Indianapolis. No truck? You don't claim a truck anymore? I don't know. I didn't truck race. You do it week to week?

No, I don't. No, I mean, you only advertise when you're doing it? Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Kristen? Hey guys, it's KB. What's up?

We're back. We're back. How you living? She's sick. I'm glad to be out of the Indianapolis heat because it gave me a cold. She's stuffed up. She got mad. How does that happen?

I think it's something like going back and forth between the AC and 100 degree heat and the AC and 100 degree heat. And it was very moist. It was. I wish we had AC to go back and forth in. I know. I like Indy because I get to see all the spotters because you guys come down. I saw TJ. He had some chicken nuggets.

I saw Hamlet. Hey, thanks for the chicken nugget, by the way. It was really good. They're good. They're, like, baked or something. It's a grilled or something. If they were baked, then I could probably eat them. They were.

No, they had breading on. Oh, they did. Yeah, they definitely had, but they weren't like deep fried or whatever. They were actually pretty good. You know, you wish you had more, didn't you? I would have gave you more. I wish I had some honey mustard to go along with them. Well, next time I'll take orders.

Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, it was a moist weekend. It was a hot-ass weekend. It was a moist-ass weekend. I changed shirts twice on Saturday. From the beginning to the end, we've never had a weekend like that at Indy. It was a crazy weekend.

If you weren't entertained by that, I guarantee you that if you bought a ticket to either one of those races, you're going to buy another ticket and come back next year. That's the kind of experience and the kind of product. And the track stepped up. They had concerts. They had the midway right there in the infield. that had a lot of cool stuff for fans. Chevrolet had a badass display.

We could look to see it from the pagoda. From beginning to end, that's as entertaining as a weekend as you're going to have at that particular track with us there. We also started off really great with the yellow shirts, and I just went downhill from there. And I saw a hot yellow shirt. No way.

She was blonde. She had a bunch of tattoos. She was near the Pagoda Media Center, and I just kept going that way every time. Over under 50 years old. Oh, dude. She was like 27. Wow.

And I was like, hey. Damn, she must know somebody to get a yellow shirt. If every yellow shirt looked like you, this place would rock. But they don't. But she didn't have anything to blow. I mean, she didn't have a whistle. She was a whistle list. Well, go borrow one from the guy that had eight.

But she was sitting there. Her job was to make sure that all the golf carts by the media center were part legally. Oh, I didn't see her. So I just kept parking a mile. I got a middle road. I thought she was supposed to be on the roof, fanning us and feeding us grapes. Oh, geez. She was hot.

Are you okay? No. Do you take a break, see you cool off a little bit? The parking yellow shirts were awesome. They let us park right next to the media center. They just said, hey, we didn't have the right sticker, and chilled sticker. They were like, just pull that off, stick it in your glove compartment and go park over here. We're like, cool.

Yeah. They were the nicest they've ever been, except for the one guy. out when William was kissing the bricks. Josh almost slam hammered him to the ground. Almost had a rock bottom. Did the whole team not get to kiss the bricks? No. Why?

Qualifying was up. They were trying to move through victory lane, so they just had William go out. Who gives the shit? This guy just won the race. Yeah, that's what we said. You need to let that. That's bad. I don't know if that's a track caller.

How about you just let our crew chief? I mean, if the team let the crew chief too. No, no, no, no, no. Every person that wanted to go kiss the damn bricks should have ever kissed the bricks. I wanted to. The team members. Those team members should be out there because when you go to Indy, that's the first thing you think of. They should have told those guys, all right, after qualifying, we're going to let you do it.

That was handled poorly, and this is why they get a black eye because that was stupid. Whoever made that call, if you're listening, that was stupid. That would be NASCAR. You think that's who it was? It was. That's who told us. Well, it's stupid. They won the race.

You have an opportunity to do something that has become historical. since Dale Jarrett won it in 1996. This is a 20-plus year tradition for NASCAR people that win there, and they didn't get to do it because of qualifying. Speaking of which, though, how about... Which was delayed anyway. Yeah, which ended up being delayed anyway. Delay it 10 more minutes and let them go out there.

Basically, the team yesterday just moved Victory Lane out to the bricks instead of... They, like, left the car. The car was sitting over in Victory Lane, but they were doing all those shots and everything. thing from the bricks, which I thought was pretty cool. Because it's a big deal. I mean, that's what you're supposed to do. Naskar also did something else that I thought was crazy. And T.J. was a part of this, just like I was.

We start the race, and we started with the intention of having a competition caution at lap 20. We run 10-ish laps, and the yellow comes out for a wreck, and they open pit road. And we come in and we pit. T.J. was part of this. And we pit based on another yellow coming at lap 20. And then after we pit, lightning strikes near the area. So competition is suspended, and that's a new rule this year. When lightning hits near the track, it's a 30-minute delay regardless.

And obviously storms were coming. So when we all climb back in our cars, NASCAR makes the change of, okay, now the competition caution is at lap 30. The game has already started. Pit Road has already been opened. We all have a strategy around lap 20. Then they change the rules, not before the game, not after the game, right in the middle of the game.

How is that okay? You've already made your strategy. You can't go back on it. You can't get to the two-minute warning and be like, hey, guys, we're going to add two more minutes. That's what happened. Yeah, you can't do that. And it's not like, I thought the same thing when they're like,

all right, we're going to move the competition. No, just go to the stage or something. I don't know. You can't have people make pit stops. And thousands of dollars were the decisions, like, because you take tires or you work. I mean, there's a lot of riding on it. And there were a bunch of, I mean, you know,

Not that the back markers should be discounted, but they were a bunch of good cars that did this. Keselowski, you know, us, Dale Jr., I mean a bunch of Swares, a bunch of big teams. Yeah, they got boned pretty hard. Yeah. I mean, we benefited from it a ton.

Yeah. We went from 23rd to 10th. So, and we wouldn't have been able to go that far. We'd now had all that extra last. We might have got to 15th or 16th or something maybe, but. But we were probably going to take two tires and fuel and go back out and hopefully be in the top three. Like, they completely took the, they laid out the damn rules in the driver's meeting,

and then they changed them after we'd all pitted. That was, I was infuriated. I've never been in a sport in any, any game situation where the rules changed right in the middle of it. I was kind of happy because we got more laps, so. It was crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Yes.

So, Indie was good. Shrimp cocktail. We got, Ellie got the pole. Yeah. We all qualified in the top five. Five, yeah. William one. William one.

Minus the mullet. How old is William? 19. 19. 19. Good for that kid, man. He's awesome. And he is such a nice person.

His whole family's nice. And calm? He's just sweet. He's like, how do you say that word? Calm. Calm. Calm. Calm.

How do you say it? Calm. Calm. Calm. Calm. Josh was telling me a story this weekend about how he dated this girl from Pennsylvania and that she had a wine to her voice. Oh, y'all dated?

No, not me. She was from Penn. It's not how you say Pennsylvania. Or pencil, either one. That's also not a thing. Josh has dated a girl from every state. That is inaccurate. This guy is like, what's the bigelow, jigolo?

He dated a girl that talked like a baby. Josh is a jiggleau. Last year we were leaving the racetrack and she called him, and I almost wanted him to put her on speakerphone, so I could just listen to how annoying her voice was. In the meantime, three others beeped in on her. That's why you got a call waiting, bro. Oh, my God.

Anyway. Anyway. You guys want to go into spot on, spot off? There is so much to talk about. We could do three shows off this week. What a crazy week. I mean, we could also talk about. Hey, feel free to add some stuff into the show sheet.

Because I did this show sheet about 40 minutes ago. What they did just announced is, as Dale Jr. did, did a multi-year TV schedule deal. Oh, awesome. Which network? Both. What's it say?

Dill and Hart Jr. I believe it's the Lifetime Network. NBC. That's cool. Oh, is that going to be racing? Welcome to the team, Dale. I don't know. That's a good picture.

Yeah. Well, you fucking work here. If y'all don't know who's going to know. I thought Josh would have this in the show sheet. But damn it, Josh. Josh doesn't even have an off-the-wall topic. They don't tell us everything. He's like, no off-the-wall topic, because I'm too tired.

too busy but call waiting. He signed his deal with NBC Universal, not just NBC Sports. That's awesome. Maybe he'll get like some bobsledding. They have not decided how they will use Dale in 18, but that's awesome. He's going to go to the Greyhound races.

He's going to call horse races and stuff. That car would be smart to hire Dale Jr. NASCAR would be smart to say, you know what, this guy is intelligent, has a huge brand, he's been a driver, he's been an owner, he has been a fan. He shows us over and over how big of a fan of the sport he is.

They need to hire Dale Jr. as a consultant, you know, to the board or to something. I mean, what they've done is they go out and hire guys like David Green and Elton Sawyer and Brett Bodine and list goes on, on, on on. Yeah. These guys were racers. But this, they didn't have near. They weren't. They weren't this guy. No.

You know, I thought Del Jarrett should have been hired as a consultant. And I think even more so that Del Jr. should be. Yeah, definitely. He knows a lot about the sports history. He knows, he knows, he has up-to-date driving experience. He knows, nothing against, you know, Brett and them guys, but they've been out of the cars for a long time. Yeah. They, they, they, like, when we went to that bump stop deal and all that, that, I don't know if that was necessarily all the right decisions. Right. So, and he's got a lot of good ideas, too, and he's got a great following. So if he leads us to the, he needs to be the mouthpiece. He's also a sports fan.

general so he could have crossover to other stuff he needs to be the mouthpiece in the driver's meeting he needs to be the mouthpiece to the to the drivers he needs to be the liaison back to the body he needs to be the guy that walks in this morning and it says this overtime line is dumb as hell at any track other than a plate track take it away it's become the story it's all we're talking about because it looks like it's at your discretion as to when you throw the yellows and you're manipulating the outcome of these races and naskargo you know what you're right they're gonna thought, but he's right. Like, he's going to be right about it, though.

And, you know, he doesn't have that. He's got a great history of just being loyal and telling you how it is. And, I mean, I think it's a great idea. Hire him. I don't know who does that. And I'll go. Can I'll go with him. I absolutely go with him.

So. Uh-huh. This isn't about you. She's still trying to ride it. I need, he needs an assistant. I'm going to have to go. Tyler, you're done. Tyler.

Tyler, you're done. Tyler can just co-host the podcast and make a couple money. Tyler can be our road manager. Our. If we ever take this show on the road, we'll need a road manager. This show? We should take it on the road, city to city. What do we need?

We need that backpack with the headset. We need one main financial to step up the contributions. We need an easy-up. You know how many loans we could sell if we did this at one-main financial? Yeah, we just hand out forms for them there. We'd have Josh's Black Book. for sale. First person to take out a loan gets Josh's

blackbook with all his chicks in it. Josh smashed his phone this week and had to get it replace yesterday. Here's the question. Which one? The work phone. The burner. It was the burner phone. Ladies, if you're in the burner phone, you are hot. Spot on, spot off. Alex Bowman

tapped to the 88 next year. Spot on for me. He's earned that ride. He did a well, did a great job. He did a well. He did a well job. Rang good, was competitive. His driving, I'm not sure about everything away from the track,

but his driving, to me, earned him a shot at it. Rick Hendrick is obviously very smart. Rick Hendrick is also very rich. Spot on for Alex Bowman getting this opportunity. From a marketing standpoint, though, spot off. You just went from Dale. Jr. Not to a Matt Kenseth, not to a Carl Edwards, not to a Casey Kane, not to anybody remotely

close on the marketability side. So what this tells me is these guys are still going to need Dell Jr. to do stuff for this team because the marketing prowess of Alex Bowman may be the equivalent to my flip-flop. In comparison to Dale Jr. We're talking about Dale Jr., man. This guy is Elvis Presley of our sports. He is our Tiger Woods, and you just replaced him with a guy that's not a household name.

That you've got to now build all that up. So when I look at Nationwide or Wrangler or Exaltah, like you've got to keep Dale Jr.'s name attached until you familiarize and basically introduce this guy to your fan base. Because how many cup races? How many races has Bowman ever won in his life in NASCAR? Almost one at Phoenix. So almost one.

Almost one. That's my point. I don't think this is a bad hiring from a talent or driving standpoint. I think this kid's going to get the job done. But who the hell is Alex Bowman? See, I'm not trying to be a bottle. They're going to have to build his brand. To me, to me, there's the other side.

The other side of this, though, is the fact that Matt Kenseth is not cheap. The economics of it make total sense. Yes. Matt Kenteth is not going to be cheap. Matt is an experienced veteran. He shouldn't be cheap. No, and he shouldn't be cheap, but realistically, though, what's the driving difference between Matt and Alex Bowman right now? It's not, to me, to me, it's a pretty smart decision because are you going to, I don't know what Matt.

Matt's what, maybe a $6, $7 million driver? He's a big deal. So do you pay that for him or do you pay Alex Bowman, you know, half a million? I go back to what I said from a driving standpoint. I think this is a spot on move. Yeah. From a marketing standpoint, it's definitely harder to market a guy that hasn't been proven. Matt's been multiple.

This guy's never won a race. It's, that's, I'm just stating facts. I think this is a smart hire, but we're talking, dude, if we're talking about this guy, you know, replacing Chase Elliott, here's the thing. You go, oh, Chase Elliott. Well, how many races is Chase Elliott one in two years? None. Well, that's the same.

Alex Bowman's, look, not one. Give him a shot. Let's see if he can do it. Like, and a little by no means is Chase Elliott warrant being replaced yet. I'm just using it as an example. Breaking news. He's replacing the biggest freaking name. I get you, yo.

I agree with you 100%. Maybe the biggest name our sport has ever had. He's going to be in the iconic 88 car that Dale Jr. has driven. It's Dale freaking Jr. But I'll also say anybody that is going to replace Dale is still going to be in Dale Shadow. Absolutely. I mean, it doesn't matter if it's a Matt Kansas or Carl, Edward, coming back from retirement. I don't even think Matt is even that close to.

But from a marketing deal, Matt's got 500 wins. He's got the championship. He's a champion. I mean, he's got that stuff, but we're going to have a lot of this in the next five or six years. There's five or five, seven years. We're going to have a lot of this. I mean, we're going to have guys coming in that of one one Xfinity race, one three-truck races, one all, you know. Yeah, we said on this podcast at some point that the fact that Alex Bowman was under contract at Hendrick,

and we knew it was a multi-year deal. I don't know if we said that, but we did say he was under contract for a reason. It wasn't just to sit on the couch and race Sims. You know, anybody can, you know, basically do that. So he was probably lined up to get in the five because Dale Jr.'s deciding when Dale Jr. is quitting. We all know that. I mean, if he wanted to quit and go drive for, you know, Mike Harmon, he could.

I mean, this is Dale Jr. people. And when he decided he was hanging up his helmet, you know, just so happened that Bowman was there in the wings. And again, great hire for a guy that's going to sit in the seat. But you can't put that guy on every billboard in America and expect any traction. And the sponsors still need Dell Jr. That are on this car. Spot on, spot off.

William Byron is the youngest driver to win an indie, and it was his first start. And he's cute. He's just so adorable. It's like a miniature. Babe Ken doll. Baby driver. Baby driver. I tweeted out after the race that, you know, we had a great weekend, and William Byron's hot.

And then I was like, like, hot as in, he's on fire. Not hot as in, I got a crush on this guy. Man, good for him. I mean, as we just said, he's one of the youngest to, or he is the youngest to, or he is the youngest to ever win an indie. So in his first start, and that's not an easy place to win. You know who he reminds me of? Who?

He reminds me of, like, Casey Kane coming back into the sport. Yeah. Just a young kid. Yeah. I mean, Casey had that blonde hair when he started and stuff. I mean, it was short, but it reminds me of Casey Kane. And a little bit of his driving ability is reminding me a little bit of Kyle Bush. Yeah.

He gets in anything and wins. Yeah. Even though it's just been stock cars right now, I believe Kyle Busch would get an Indy car win. Yeah. But William is adjusting. into these cars. Probably the defining moment in William's career is going to be when we bring him on this show.

So you PR people and marketing people that work at junior motorsports need to get William on the show so we can just put 1% of corruption into his head. No, he's so adorable. He's probably also going to skip math class. That's when he's going to be a big deal after that. He's awesome. His crew chief's smart too, Dave Allen. Let's get him in here next week.

Get Dave and William. No, Dave's pretty boring. Dave went to Clemson, so I'm not coming to that shit. Oh, Clemson. Climpson. Listen, Dave would be fun, too, though, because I worked at the shop at MB2. I was there for a couple years, and I remember when they hired Dave Ellens. Nobody liked Dave Ellens because Dave was a college kid who had no racing experience at all.

He was engineer driven, and he came in there and acted like he knew everything. Yeah. They pretty much did not like Dave, but Dave's doing well now. Dave's doing well. William has been the highest finishing full-time Xfinity driver in the last six starts. He's won three races. He is full-blown on fire. And the thing is, TJ's seen it.

T.J. seen it. I've seen it. Y'all've seen it. When a guy thinks he can do it, he does it. This guy has, when he gets in the car, he's not going, man, I hope I don't screw this up today. He's going, I'm going to kick all y'all's ass. Watch this. And he does it.

He doesn't even start to race. He starts to race kind of like, okay, let me see what I guess. got here. That reminds me of Jimmy. Yeah, and he just sees, then at the end of the race, here he comes. And he is so calm and reserved in the car. Dave has said that. He's like, I've never seen someone so calm. Also, really cool thing when

he won, like, a whole bunch of cup guys came over to congratulate him. Which, I know Jimmy came and Chase came. Obviously, Dale came. The only flaw to this kid is his second spotter. That is the only flaw with this guy is the second

spot. And he spotted, what, one corner? Oh, I'm not, you were on the backside, you didn't see him off turn four. Was he going bananas? Oh, yeah. Jumping up in the air, swinging his fists around. Woo! Like, you just... He was doing the Tiger Woods fist pump.

No, he was like... Oh, yeah, they might have been upstairs. He was. Oh, yeah, they might have been upstairs. They were up in the air. Yeah. So... What'd you say? Dork. And this is the guy that called in, and, and, you know, he was like, and, he was like, he was like, and, he was... And. Acted like a clown.

Yeah. Of course. Winner, winter, chicken, dinner. Coming to you. I mean, that's the thing about this sport. And people listening will respect this because in their own workplace they have this too. We all have peers. You know, I have 39 peers.

You have 39 peers. Josh has 39 peers. Y'all have hundreds of peers. Y'all have more than we have. We need hundreds of beers instead of peers. But when you have peers, you don't necessarily need them to like you, but you need them to respect you. Agreed. Yeah.

Because for employment. opportunities or for job task or whatever, you have to have respect. And, you know, Ford's really young. He's coming here at a young age. He just needs to realize that if he wants respect in the sport, the word is he wants to be a media member. And if he wants to be anything, people have to respect him. So, dude.

He needs to act like William more. Read what respect says and maybe do that. Or how about the word, try humble. Yeah, humility. Try humble. How about that? Because he is not very humble. Not all about you.

Yeah, it's... Act like you've done it before. Act like you've won. There's a lot more people that did a lot more work on that car that didn't celebrate nearly as much as you did for spot in half a race. Half of a track.

Okay? Yeah, there's guys that were here at the shop late hours. Well, you were playing Nintendo 64 in your bed. You can't make fun of people playing video games. Yeah, that's... Like FIFA.

Back off. FIFA. By the way... Shut up, Josh? Come over that day. desk. Brenno pulled me off your neck. Some DC Solar guy came up to me and said that there's a rumor in the garage that I'm a gamer. I was like, I literally haven't played a video game since I was eight, and it was like Mario Card.

He meant player. Yeah, you're a gamer. Maybe that's what the kids are calling it now. I was like, you're, come online because it's terrible. Maybe that's what kids are calling these days. Was he tall enough to ride the ride, or was he too short? He was very tall, yeah. I mean, you got about a 5'7 height stick walking with you, babe.

Like, you're tall. I know. I'm almost 5'1. 11. I know. That's what I'm saying. You gotta be tall enough to ride the ride. It's like Carol wins. But who says, hey, Kristen wins. They're like, Kristen, come over here. And I was like, yeah. And they're like, we heard a rumor that you're a gamer. And I was like, what the hell does that mean? He meant swinger. You heard you're a swinger. You should have played along with it and see where it was like

where it was going. Next time you hear that is play all the, yeah, a game all the time. What do you play? Mario brothers. You should have said, are you running game on me, boy? I was like, I need to get back in the hall I am. I and the game. All right, spot on, spot off.

J-R-R-M-4 out of top five in qualifying at Indy. You want to play Mortal Kombat? Get over. Finish him. That's what I'm... Ah, y'all are terrible. That was a big accomplishment. I mean, to qualify that well at a track with that much history.

Sat on the pole? I had no idea who was going to get the pole for that because it was, I was watching lap trackers and stuff. and it was so up and down. It almost felt like Daytona with the wind. Yeah. Like if you got the wind, you were going to be faster. You were half-tenth off, and you were half-tenth ahead.

I'll say this, though, this is a good part of the shows. We can just kind of go wherever we want with it. When you look at qualifying for the Xfinity series and it was two rounds, it was really fun. It was fun to watch. The first round of qualifying almost in every series has become a joke because we know guys that aren't going to make it. Mike Harmon is not going to make it.

Never. Kyle Bush runs at 70% to save his tires. The first round of qualifying in all three series, but especially the trucks and Xfinity is a joke. It needs to go away. And in the Cup series, the first round being 20 minutes is a joke because we all go sit out there for 10 and we just sit. The poor commentators, I can't imagine what they have to say

and talk about while nobody is going. And then the first guy to go, he gets all them all riled up is Timmy Hill. You know, like how do you get it? Jack Jr. Coming in hot. Scoob a steam. How do we get excited about this? So let's reform.

Let's massage this a little bit. And they run their first lap and, oh, he's three seconds faster than he was the other day. Oh, okay. That's going to tell us a lot. Let's massage this a little bit. I like the two-round deal, though. Let's put it on the clock, man. When you start qualifying, 10 minutes, let's go, top 12.

Yeah, I like top 12. Spot on, spot off. Spotter 10 feet of well loses his hard card after a flying sand. Let's explain what happened. Yeah. I mean, basically Tim Fidoa. Who's a really cool dude. Yes.

Great guy. Sponsored by a sandwich company. Jimmy Johns. Once in a while, Timmy is nice enough to carry a little small extra bag to the roof. This was a box. Big box. And hand out sandwiches to people, because we don't get a lot of breaks. They're subs.

They're not sandwiches. Okay. So he's nice enough to do this. and Timmy, who really probably isn't that athletic. No. Apparently not. It's not Damarino. No.

So, Timmy, you know, he's passed some out, and he goes to toss a sub to this gentleman who is 75 feet away. He's in the corner of the end zone. We're talking a lob. Well, and so this guy, I think he was overhand or under him? Over. Yeah. Sounds better if we say over, Judge.

Yeah, I mean, he drilled the shit. So, Timmy, throws this sub to this guy. It's a little high. A little high. It's a little high to the right a little bit. And this guy... Had alligator arms.

This guy... This guy catches the sub. Sort of. Doesn't catch the sub. Tim says, coming to you, father. He said, coming to your thub. This guy puts his hands up. And the sub goes right between them.

Oh. And then guess what happens? Then guess what happens. It falls 14 stories. Off the pagoda. To the pavement behind the pagoda. And guess who it lands beside? The IMS president.

The dweep in the suit. The freaking track president. What are the odds of that? I have never laughed so hard during a practice in my life. So here comes the track president. And he's pissed off. And he's cussing the NASCAR official. Saying you better get these fucking spotters under control.

roll. What are they doing up here throwing sandwiches? It's like we all sit up and throw sandwiches back and forth all day. Watch this. We're going to hit somebody eventually. Right? Hey, I want no lettuce on mine. It's like we're dropping, it's like we're dropping water balloons off the roof. Like, go, let's get this one. Boom. So track president comes up.

He fusses. More track security comes up. They fuss. Elton Sawyer comes up. He's mad. Here comes Mike Lynch, the head of NASCAR security. He's even more mad. Next thing you know, they got Timmy outside. Timmy comes running back on the roof with his lanyard around his neck. there's no hard card attached.

So he's done. And we think, oh, they're getting ready to escort this guy. Because everybody was so mad over a six-inch sub falling on to the ground. Like there was like 30 of them that fell, too. Like, it made it sound like we do it. We do it all the time. Yeah.

You could have dropped a wrecking ball off the back of that damn thing and probably not hit anybody. And this guy is so mad over two pieces of bread. Maybe he was hungry. This is a brain. And some cheese and some. I actually looked at Timmy. The first thing I said when he had the whole heart card, I said, hey, man, you're probably going to need a sub tomorrow.

I thought somebody else was going to be spotting. Hey, did you hear? Jimmy John's coming out with a sandwich. What's it called? It's a flatbread. It's called the pagoda. Jimmy's pagoda. That's hilarious.

So I caught Hamlin. They escorted him off the roof, by the way, too. He did escort him down off the roof. Hamlin came down, and I was like, what the hell's going on up there? Because people were tweeting about a flying sandwich and Tim. That's because Timmy said over the radio. He goes, they've now threatened us to put you guys on the. Yeah, in the grandstands.

In the grandstands. He's like, I can't see from there. Yeah, it was big. So he got his hard card back, obviously. Got his hard card back. So Timmy came over the radio and told us crew chief, hey Rodney, you got to send another spotter up here. They're taking my hard card because,

I dropped my sandwich. So that becomes, like, he just globalized it. So then we all start seeing it on Twitter, and we think there's a rat in our group that's tweeted Jim Utter and give him the story. You know, Jim Utter's tweeting about it. And we're like, man, who's the rat? And then it comes to find out. Tim was a rat.

He's not one that's not going to, he's going to not hide it. You know what I mean? Like, oh, Rodney, I'm in trouble. Coming to you, guys. I bet you. We will never see another sub on that roof in our life. Oh, my gosh. No food allowed.

I mean, and I'm the kind of guy that messes with people anyway, and I was wearing him out. The whole time that he was in trouble, it was escalating. I was steady wearing him out. That was hilarious. So they're all mad. Timmy, you got another one throw here, bud? Oh, we're all, yeah, everybody walked around. Timmy, hit me.

So, and even in NASCAR officials are up there laughing about it now, it turned into a big, actually, publicity stunt kind of thing. By the track. So Sunday we get up there. The track president shows back up up there with a bunch of media people, stuff like that, carrying a fishing pole with a Jimmy John's sandwich tied to the end of it and hands it to Timmy. This is after he presented a sub to Kevin Harvick in the driver's meeting. This is so lame.

So he went from being an ass-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. Oh, this is going to be fun, guys. Well, let's get some sub publicity out of this. So about this Twitter, you like this? Maybe we'll sell some sandwiches. That guy should have came up there and been like, hey, man, I'm sorry I was. deep bag I overreacted. Yeah.

That's the first thing he was the target. Like you guys were purposely trying to hit him. Like I said, we hold water balloons over the edge. So the suite below where we stand has balconies all the way around it. He went into that suite with that sandwich and asked every single person if they threw that sandwich off the thing. These are his guest at his racetrack. That's before he realized it was like, who threw the sub? Who threw the sub?

Do you throw a sub, Kristen? We don't have subs in here. What are you got a sub? Who threw it? Man, maybe it wasn't honest. I got an idea. Oh, it wasn't you guys, and it was them damn spotters. Let's go kill them guys, because when it rains, we make them stand in the stairwell for three hours and suffocate on each other's carbon monoxide.

We treat them so great. It's over. Pretty much like that, yeah. That's how this goes. Next time. Hey, lightning striking. You 40 guys go hang out of a stairwell. It's like your French kissing each other in there because you can literally smell each other's breath.

My stomach. That may have. happened. We get stairwelled a lot. Stairweld. We get stairwelled a lot. Is it hot in there? Is it hot?

Josh, it's a hundred fucking degrees outside. Yes, it's hot in there. Have you ever seen an air-conditioned stairwell? Yeah. They don't pump AC into the stairwells. God. Yeah.

I'm telling. This track president. Feed-O. It should have took that sandwich and told him to bend over. Or fastball. Police got three inches of it. He should have had that guy stand up against the wall, walked back from him, and got to throw it at him as hard as he could and hit him with it.

He'd have missed him. We already know that. He can't have targeted. That was, that's a good shit right there. Carrying on. I think maybe next time we bring subs up there, I'm just going to write property of the 18 cup car or something to throw it over. Yeah. Get Herschman in trouble.

Yeah. Woo. All right. That was great. That was spot on, spot off. Kyle Bush. comments after the Xfinity race. We got to say what those comments are.

Here's what he said. NASCAR, Kyle Busch, according to Dustin Long, quote, they wanted to slow down the fastest guys here, so the rest of the field could keep up, and they did. So Kyle Busch is saying he's the fastest guy, and the only way for anybody to keep up with him

was to have a rules package to slow down. Did you read what Steve O'Donnell then said? I'm sure it was good. What's he saying? He said, The William Byron was the fastest one today. So this Rules Package had nothing to do with Kyle Busch. This Rules Package had to do with how boring our product had been.

That race was terrible. Last year, it was one of the worst we've ever had. And this new Rules Package was phenomenal. We saw Paul Minard Drive from probably 7th to 2nd. Had an opportunity to win the race. I had to look to see if he was a lap down. Is this too a lap down? What the hell is going on there?

He's fine. We went from 13th to 3rd, inherited the lead, then fell back to 4th after we got tight. This rules package was phenomenal. It had nothing to do with Kyle Busch. The comments themselves seemed to tick arrogant. So what was the problem before last year? I mean, we changed the rules package last year. He didn't complain about it then.

You know what I mean? Then they goes back. And first of all, Kyle, you were driving the best car on the track. If he didn't pit for no reason, he would have won, and he wouldn't have been mad. No. But you're still in the best cars. It's not like you are out driving everybody. You're in the fastest car.

There's a 90% chance that the crew chief for Kyle Busch and the crew chief for Eric Jones in that Xfinity race gave it away. There's a very good chance of that. So Steve O'Donnell quote tweeted Dustin's Kyle quote and said, and William Byron was the fastest guy here and why he was in victory lane. Yeah. Mike drop. I just don't.

This is just Kyle. Kyle being Kyle. Kyle being Kyle. Kyle was actually not too bad after the cup race. Well, that's because Joe Gibbs Racing gets a lot of money from Furniture Row. I mean, we're talking a lot of money. Nobody's ever talked about that. Furniture Row pays Joe Gibbs Racing a pile of money.

And then they beat them. They're getting cars from them. They're getting bodies from them. They're getting engineering support from them. Joe Gibbs isn't doing that because he loves toys. he's doing that because he loves money. He doesn't like furniture. No.

When Jack Rouse went out and did all these alliances and when Hendrick had Stuart Hoss Racing, you know, getting engines, you're talking $15, $20 million in engines, not to mention buying the cars like... You're basically funding one of your teams. That's a vendor. Yeah, basically. You're basically, it's a product. You're selling your product.

Yes. Basically. A great product. Yeah. But let's not act like that, you know, you got a lot of big sponsors at Joe Gibbs Racing. and one of them is furniture row. Yeah, I mean, I agree. All right, y'all, we're going to take a break.

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I think I've already used all my good stuff. Yeah? Yeah. Casey Cain pulled off a win at Indy and broke a long. on windless streak. This was a long and grilling race. At what point did you think, or did you, that they may call the race because of lightning? Brett? That says lighting, not lightning.

Lighting. I didn't write this sheet. Words are hard. Take this sheet and shove it. At no point did I think they were going to call the race because of lighting. I was sitting on an airplane because we had crashed, violent crash, and I looked out, when these people started tweeting about how dark it was, I looked out my window, and I could for miles at the airport.

So whoever was worried about it getting dark was an idiot. I was at home. I couldn't tell how dark it was. That's true. Ding, ding. That's right. This wasn't about, was it dark? You know, everybody, dark may have been the excuse.

What about the very end, though? How about if we'd have started at 1 o'clock, dark wouldn't even have been in this conversation? Boom. The problem with what everybody's upset about, is NASCAR in this overtime line. We never got to it, so there was never an official attempt, and then they had another wreck, and they waited six seconds or however long it was to finally throw it

when they said they needed to, quote, dispatch safety equipment. So it took six seconds to figure that out, I'm guessing. Was it dark? Hell no. When Casey won't know, but what about after another 10-minute cleanup? No one dark, dog. Qualifying heats in the race at Eldora were all on different channels last Wednesday. How much do you think this hurt Eldora's ratings?

T.J. It was hard to find it. I'm not going to lie. I had to go through and actually work to find this race, and it's one of the most entertaining races all year. How do you mess that up? I mean, you're putting it on, and legitimately, I don't know if people didn't have them channels or not,

but it was a struggle to actually find these channels and find out what time I had to go there to do it. You've got mail. Yeah. We need to, yeah. It was a progression in the wrong way. It went from Fox Sports 1, the most notarized channel, the Fox Sports 2, to Fox Business. I had never even heard of Fox Business.

So in order to, so for every viewer that you had, that is a hardcore fan because he had to work, to T.J.'s point, to even find any of it, not to mention the actual race. Ratings were up. Just imagine if it had been on a channel that anybody had ever heard of. Fox Business? What do they play? What do they do on there? They do truck racing now. I didn't even know that channel existed.

It's the CNBC. I didn't know Fox and Business existed. So, I mean, yeah, whatever. They're going to put us on Fox Business. We're going to do a live podcast on Fox Business. Yeah, talk about. What are you doing? Oh, that'd be big.

Is that a chest hair? It was a hair. I hate you. Now that the debut of the new Xfinity Series Rules Package is done, What are your thoughts, Brett Griffin? I am a big fan of it. I think it was one of the best races we've ever had in stock cars there, but yesterday's race trumped it.

And I think the Xfinity introduction of this package was to see if it would work to put it on cup cars. And I'm not so sure that cup cars need it after the race we saw yesterday. I mean, it was phenomenal. It probably wasn't going to be phenomenal until the two top cars wrecked on a restart. It probably wasn't going to be that great. To me, it still got strong out. I would like to see the Cup cars trend in that direction.

I still think the Xfinity cars could use a little bit more. They could get there, and I would like to see them be able to do a little bit more with those runs. They can get the speeds. I enjoy the speeds now. With the Fisvini car, it looks slow, but you can still have it. This goes to show you that you don't have to be going 210 miles an hour to put on a great race. You can make these cars run the speeds you want and still put on a good race. What I learned yesterday was I stand on the backstrand.

the pagoda side because I can see 85% of the racetrack. I literally only have somebody spot turn one. I can see the rest of the track. But what I learned is the majority of the primary spotters are on the backstretch. But what I learned is when we get late in the race like that, I will swap with my second spotter to do restarts because some of those late restart wrecks probably happen because of inexperienced guys on the front screaming green, green, go, go, go.

And in the meantime, the leaders have spun their tires. So I learned something by not even being there. Hey, you should. T.J., you're going first on this. If you were Dale Jr., which paint scheme design would you run for the homestead race? So many to choose from. Man, you know, I'm not sure. I think I might, you know, I think I would go with something.

I would probably go with the but-eight deal. That's what brought him into the sport, and that's what made him. That's when he was, you know, that's what it all began. So that's what started it all. And I think that's when you think of Dell Jr., the first thing you think of is a red-bud eight car. Yep. So that's what I would run.

Yeah, I mean, you go back to the three car and the A.C. Delco paint scheme. And, man, that guy had a lot of success driving the car. Running at Darlington, too. One two championships with it. Running at Darlington, I think that's phenomenal. But I got to agree with T.J. here. I mean, people got eights tattooed on their asses

because they love Dale Jr. that much. I still see Added one I still see eight All people's body And I do think that red Budweiser car Winning Daytona 500s Winning that race in July

After his dad passed away Yeah it doesn't get any better than that Yeah It's just When you think of him You still go into these gas stations And some of these You get into the country style

But you go in these gas stations There are still stand-ups From the Budweiser deal There's the bar logos And stuff are still hanging up bleak's tips on top of the hair. They all did that stuff. Like Casey.

That's what Casey had some too, didn't he? Yeah. But yeah, you go to some of these stores, some of these old bars and stuff, like that old bar at Sonoma right up the street. You know what I'm talking about? Ernie's Tin bar or whatever. You go in that place.

That's the type of place that would have like an old pool table lamp with Bud Aid on and stuff. I mean, that's iconic. Yeah. There's no off-the-wall topic. So a round of silly season it is. Brett. You got anything?

Man, I think obviously the biggest silly season news right now is on the five car. I mean, you've got one car and you've got three drivers that keep coming into conversation. Casey Kane being one of them. Who just won the race? Can you imagine saying, Casey, congratulations on winning the brickyard. You're fired. Holy cow. Casey Kane, Matt Kenseth is in that conversation.

And I don't know how you can't have William Byron's name come up. I mean, I'm a big fan of guys running two years. But let's be honest, he's run one three of the last. five races. He is proving that he's probably ready to be in a cup car. Yeah, I'm not going to lie, though. This is, Casey's the type of guy that can be cold for two and a half years and then win six races. Yeah. So if Casey, you know, this is something that I might sit back on and be a little patient on, because if Casey catches fire here, you know, then you still have, you still have William who probably would not hurt running another year of Xfinity.

never hurts to get another good year of experience. Maybe run them in a, you know, find him a, you know, handful of cup races or something here and there. But, you know, you got William, who's 19 years old, long driving career ahead of him in your pocket. You got Alex Bowman over there. I mean, if Casey catches fire here and, you know, can. You know, the scenario is what we just talked about to some degree with 88, though. You know, the five sponsor. I mean, Rick Hendrick even said publicly yesterday, our plan.

is to run four cup cars. What that means is we don't have four cup cars fully sold yet, so we got to sell them. And if you're looking at sponsors and they're not big money sponsors, they can't afford Casey Kane or Matt Kenseth. Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier. Do you pay William Byron? William Byron would probably almost pay to drive that car.

When you look at numbers, you're talking $5 million that you don't have to raise to pay the driver when you hire William Byron over Casey Cain. So you take a number of 20 million down to 15 million. Automatically. Just by hiring the cheaper guy. Instead of 19.5 million. Who, oh, by the way, is hot. Yeah.

Hot as in he's winning. Not as in a win. And obviously. Make out with him in a stairwell. I'd pretend I did not hear that. He's a, I mean, I think that's the biggest silly season of question left is the five. And there's still a lot of other questions. out there about a lot of cars.

I've heard Greg Biffle's name a little bit. Really? Yeah. The Biff could be. And I'm going to go ahead and tell you this too. So I've been watching that 43 car. And they, I mean, I don't know what it is now. It just doesn't have that buzz around them now.

And, you know, they're just, I don't know if Eric's just starting to get the feel for it again or what. But when Bubbles in that car, that thing was, you know, 10th to 15th and racing hard. Now it's like, you know, who knows? I don't know. Yeah. All right. 43's in question. I mean, that's 43's in question.

The 10's in question. 21's in question. 21's in question. Is Penske adding a third car? GMS is rumored to be buying dashes and chassis for two cup cars. So if that's happening, you've got to think there are alignments with Hendrick and you've got to think maybe Casey or Matt end up there. I mean, Matt Kenseth is, he was in line to win the race yesterday. until, you know, we got in that big wreck.

Well, he was in line after the other guys got in. After the other two. But, I mean, he's leading. He's leading the race in contention. I mean, he's still running third. But, I mean, here's the guy that can flat out get it done. Just like Greg Biffel could get it done. I mean, it's just, it's hard to swallow the fact that guys who can get it done

are getting moved aside. But it's part of the sport, man. And it's going to happen a lot here in the future. It's the part of this cycle. Do your reefs have a bottle opener on the bottom? Yes. You have a beer? A pop on top.

Hey, hashtag, Ask, DBC. You guys ready? I'm ready. At J. Steen, 234 asks, how difficult is it for the driver and spotter when the second spotter uses different terminology? That's a good question. Who did you use for your second spotter?

I had Frank Denny's name. He is a... Former late model ice. Yeah, like really good. Like national championship contention probably is 100s of late model races. You know, very, very good. And he's actually spotted for me a couple times in the late model. And, you know, I thought it was pretty good then.

So he's been doing some odd stuff here and there, K&N, you know, things like that. And I wanted to get somebody, and he knows Justin really well. And Justin wanted to use him for the non-companion stuff. So I was like, all right, well, we'll try him there. If he does okay, then I'll bring him onto the cup side and use him there, too. Yeah, I used a buddy Freddie Kraft who spotted for William Byron. It was very confused at first. I forgot you had a companion spotter.

I know. So Freddie came over and did it. I speak Redneck, and he speaks Yankee. So I was like, man, I wonder how this is going to work. Well, what I didn't realize, and this is, this question actually is very fitting. What about different terminology? Freddie said words that I've never heard before. Yeah, same here.

He said, clear down. I'm like, where the hell's down? It's clear low. Then he said, clear up. And I'm like, we can't go up. That's the sky. Oh, you mean clear high, like clear right. And Freddie talks, you know, like a Yankee.

But then when he starts spotting, he goes into like auctioneer mode. Two, back two, three, three, by two to two, four. Clear down. I'm like, Jesus Christ. That was fast. Elliot knows Freddie. That's a good thing. The weird thing is you don't want a guy hearing a voice he's never heard before in life.

Like you want them to hear a voice. Okay, I know how this guy's going to talk. You want him to hear sheriff. Clear, clear, clear, clear. Clear out of the bet. I'm going to the house. There's a mose in the house. That's Elliot's nine companion spotter, Brian Roberts, who's sheriff.

He'll be doing this weekend in Iowa. Greenville County. Yeah. I heard a new one. Brunswick County. Sheriff over all the sheriffs of Virginia. Yeah. You know what I heard.

And really good at getting people out of tickets. I heard, still there. Wheel to wheel. Wheel to wheel to wheel. What the hell? I never say wheel to wheel to wheel. And Del Jr. is the type of guy that doesn't, they don't like to hear things they're not accustomed to.

Right. So I'm sitting here thinking like, oh, man. He says will to will tomorrow. This is going to be. Well, he did say it. Yeah. And I was like, he's getting ready to yell. I'm getting ready to get to get chew.

I'm like kind of nervous but kind of excited because I want to hear someone else get it other than me. So I'm like, oh, come on, do it. Never said a thing. There's a word. Damn, man. As I told you to play how much. He's like, oh, I'm going to be nicer now. I'm like, oh, what?

Like, I never said the word quarter on the radio. It's too long. So I literally, I may say still there, barely there, barely bump or clear. Next thing in here, through the quarter, quarter, clear down. I'm like, Jesus Christ. So it is. It's this person. Oh, well.

It's different. It's different. To this person's thing, how difficult is it? Here's what's difficult. We're used to being in control of our car. We're used to being able to see everything. So it's difficult not being in control. It's difficult not being able to see because you start hearing things you've never heard

and you just hope your car comes out the other end. Freddie did a great job. We finished fourth. He's going to help us again at the Glen. And maybe I can record some of this and we can hear what he does. So your car didn't come out the other end one time. When was that yesterday? Yeah.

Yeah, that was not. Oh, yeah, I saw you. Yeah, that was, uh, as Will. Wheel. Now that was me. I was spot in that corner. No, on the front stretch. Yeah, I was spot in the corner.

I can see that great. No, no, I'm talking about it to start. Like, he was up at the corner. Who would you have in the front stretch? Will. Will does turn one. Yeah, okay. He was up there in the corner.

Yeah, scare me. He was scared me too. He was, uh, he picked up his cooler one time. He was like, standing on this round. Like, oh, man, you got to sit down. We about went from San Francisco. much is falling off the roof to wheel falling off the roof wheel do you have any uh bud lights in that cool uh for after the race probably good old wheel at roll tide win asked oh i got one christin bower we

finally found you in victory lane with william byron what is your responsibility when a jrm driver wins by the way your um shot shot shot shot shot your mom's photo that she sent um my butt was fantastic my butt what let's see it an ass shot Oh, hashtag. Yeah, what's the deal here? Hashtag ass shot. Send us your favorite ass shot. Hashtag ass.

Yeah. Sandwich ass. It's my butt on TV. Kristen. And William. Who's out of there? William. I like big butts and I can't lie.

You other brothers can't deny. So. That is a big ass you rocking there on TV. I'm not. Listen, I'm not going to lie. It does look big right there. It does. What's that?

What's that? I don't know. Sweat. I don't know. We're going to need a black light. Oh, good. So what is your responsibility? I'm there to help assist the PR rep who is running Victory Lane,

hand out Victory Lane hats, make sure all my guys are there, make sure they're all smiling and yelling, making sure. How about Ford? Was he smiling? Oh, my God. Such a cheeseball. Did he get a hat? He got a hat bag.

Everyone put their finger up and yell. Woo! And then also to get my sponsors in there to make sure they get there. plug. That's important. The guest experience in the Victory Lane. That's important. Not every guest gets that.

Baby got back. Yeah. That's important. That's probably your most important role. And we tag team it, the group. Oh, easy now. Easy. Remember that time in Victory Lane when Josh didn't get the sponsors in Victory Lane?

Actually, that is false statement. They were there. Fake news. They were there. Fake news. Did you screw that up? I didn't screw up. So, like, enter up.

When William went out to Kiss the bricks, Kelsey, his PR rep and Josh went out there to get enough for social media. I stayed with the team, and then Josh took our winning crew chief to the PR department. You stayed there for media center. You stayed there for some camera time. I'm just standing there to sweat. And show your ass. And show my ass on TV. At Zoom underscore Buck underscore 80s, did NASCAR delay putting the yellow on that last yellow just to finish the race because of how dark it was?

I don't know if it was because of darkness. I think they were just over the hole. They were probably out of Speedy Dry. I was with you. They probably had a product. I wasn't watching. This isn't the first time this has happened. This happened at Daytona as well.

There is a car perpendicular to the wall. What was that? Perpendicular. Perpendicular. Perpendicular. To the wall off of turn two. Waited to throw the caution. Here's the fix to this.

Do away with. the discretionary over time line. It's not that hard. You painted it white, go back out there, paint it black, and guess what? It's gone. We don't have to debate this crap if you don't have that stupid line in that ballot back.

We wouldn't have this question, though. Hey, I found a good question on Twitter. Oh, great. If there was one type of sandwich, you wouldn't want to lose off the pagoda at IMS, what kind would it be? I'm a bacon and cheese. Bacon and cheese guy.

Bacon and cheese? Not like a turkey bacon and cheese or something? No, I like bacon and cheese. She said there's a difference between a sandwich and a sub. And a hot dog. This was not a sandwich, Timmy, through. But it also wasn't. It was a sub.

But it was a small sub. They're not big. It was six inches. That's big in my house. That's a big sub. 12 inches is too much. Six inches is just right. Y'all know.

Why do they cut them in half at Subway? Because 12 inches is too much. At TL Star 2014. We're talking about subs. You got little hands? You know what you put, you know what that means if you got a little feet, you wear a little socks. That's true.

Seems like there have been a lot of fires this year. Is this anything new with the cars causing it? Like Byron? Does this count? He's on fire. A lot of fires? What is this? What's a question?

It's just how they hit. If there's oil lines. If you knock the oil line, if you not to... There's all lines. Well, how would Elliot say? Is there anything new causing this? Yeah, sparks. Sparks cause it.

Well, the sparks aren't new. It's not something like cavemen, you sparks. I mean, geez. I'll tell you what, that extinguishing system of Martin's car did a phenomenal job. Yeah. He was in full-blown meltdown mode, and it completely put that fire out. Yeah, that's, you know what? The safety of these cars and our racetracks is top-notch.

They've done a great job. in the last 8, 10 years of making all these places super safe. I've seen some of the worst wrecks I've ever seen, and these people walk away from, and they're pissed because they wrecked. They're not worried about their health. They're mad because they wrecked, and they've wrecked like Danica at Kansas. Oh, my gosh.

Speaking of health, Casey Kane, locked up. He was so dehydrated that he locked up. Like he was 20 to go, he said over the radio he was cramping his crew chief, Keith Rodden, told him to breathe. And Casey went on to have some of the best restarts you could have to win one of the biggest races of the year, gets out of the car, kisses the bricks. And after that, he locks up, takes him a couple hours to get to the care center, get IVs.

You know, that's pretty amazing. He's an athlete. He's an athlete. That dude runs. He's got a full-time trainer on staff. Yeah. I pass him on the road. road over here running.

Yeah. Like miles and miles away on the side of the road. That dude's like a ninja warrior. Yeah. He's a, I mean, he's... I mean, when he got out of the car, he had to sit down. Like, he couldn't, he couldn't stand. Yeah.

Yeah. It was bad. Our buddy Brad took great care of him, took him to the care center, got him some fluids. Said he was literally having to, like, help him get up from kissing the bricks. He was that week. And then when he got in the care center, like, his body just started locking up, you know, that's freaking dehydration, you know. And the T.J.

his point. Guy has a full-time trainer on staff. He's in as good as shape as anybody. Yeah. So when you hear people say, he's good as an athlete.

Yeah, that's bull-of-h. That's what I want, you know, I want to see Charles Barkley getting that car right around five hours. Listen, let's be honest here. Mike Harmon is not an athlete. No.

But these, the top elite drivers are athletes. Even L.A. B. about Mike Harmon's weekend. God. What was that practice? One idiot. What's he doing back there?

You never know what you're doing. You know what? I got a little bit of a rant. All right, let's hear it. I watched the end of the race on TV, right? And I'm all for the restart box and everything, but don't make the leader at a disadvantage. So they put the speeds up on the deal.

And Casey was leading, and Brad trying to get the best restarting, Brad doing what you should do. He did exactly what you should do because you don't get in trouble for it. So Brad lays back a little bit. He actually takes off and starts to race. Casey goes because of him. Brad was four miles an hour faster, three to four miles an hour faster than Casey before.

That's big. Because he laid back. Just because he went and Casey wasn't really going yet. It's the leader's job to start that race. It's not the second place sky. So the big wreck happens. They don't even make it to the start finish line and they're wrecking back there. How is that even a start?

We had a Talladega race. We were leading it. And it got called back for no start. It was the same type of deal. a wreck at the start deal. That one got called back. Now you're doing an order. Because this one actually does count.

What's the difference? If you have data of the second place guy actually taking off, not showing any sign of giving it back. And then you give him the lead after the rack. That's not right. That's not right, in my opinion. Casey got hose on that deal. I mean, I'm friends with Brad, and I want to see Brad do good too. But Casey, it's Casey that he was leading the race.

his crew chief made the pit call. They got lucky. You're saying that restart should have been nullified. Yeah, Casey never should have lost the lead. I mean, Casey, I'm not going to lie. Casey did lay back huge on the next one and get him back and they never say anything about it. But like the leader should be starting these races. Right.

Not the second place guy. I don't mind the second place guy laying back. That's exciting. We're racing door to door. But when the other guy starts to race, I literally watched him take off. And then Casey not go. And they're in a restart zone, so that's not right to me. If they're at the end of it, go.

So Brad went first. He just didn't have the lead via his bumper. Brad went first and was actually in front of him. Wow. He was both, yeah. But they don't care who gets to the line first at that point. It's only initial start. Well, right, but the leader's supposed to accelerate first.

Casey did not accelerate first. And they didn't call it. No, Casey was sitting there 60, 61, 61, Brad's at 64. Yeah. And not slowing down. Right. And that, I know it doesn't sound like a whole lot, but when you've got your cruise control set,

you come up on a guy running a four-mile-on-a-older-you're like, get the hell out of the damn way. Right. But the point is, is the guy's leading the race, he needs the advantage, and you just took it all away from him. Who hit Trevor Bain? The wall. I mean, he got turned on, though. I mean, he shot right left. I mean, I'm not sure.

He hit the back of Casey. No, no, no, he's the back of Brad. Okay. And then actually I think Trevor might have got hit by Denny. Some might pile drive Trevor. What happened that I saw was is Denny laid back real big and he tried to run up there and hit Casey real hard. Which is great.

I mean, you want to help the guy. He doesn't want to wreck him. But when I saw Danny do that, his car wiggled and went left. And he actually went down there and cleaned out the six. I don't know if somebody was into the back of Denny and made Danny do that, but I know he hit the back of the five hard. Yeah. So, but, you know, to my point,

though the leader deserves the advantage if that if if the two would have showed a sign of giving it back a little bit yeah no problem but you know he was going to lose the lead probably because of that yeah so that's not right yeah my only thing that i want to talk about is wrecks you know fans wrecking is a part of our sport wrecking is entertaining but we had a wreck yesterday with clint you know we caught the the 27 caught the 10 and And when you are passing somebody at Indy, generally the person on the outside gives it to him. Well, Danica doesn't give it to him. She races him.

Then she pinches him down in four. 27 gets loose. Clint reacts. May have brushed the outside wall, but whatever he did when he reacted, it shot him left. And he hit Eric Jones and then a big wreck ensued. But, man, you talk about something hard to do is watch somebody you give a shit about wrecking that hard. Holy cow. I didn't sleep a wink.

I mean, it's over. He's fine. You know, he's sore. I went by, I actually met him at the care center when he came. came out, but it's hard to watch your friend wreck like that. Yeah. And so a lot of people that, you know, like the big one. I like all these things, man, I get it.

But, man, it's hard to watch that. Yeah, it's never, it's never good. I mean, I think you might have had a couple more severe wrecks than I have with Elliott, like, rolling over at Talladega and stuff like that. I've had a couple rollovers, but nothing that looked like that. But they're all can be bad, but you'd never want to see. There's just that something comes over you when you have to say, are you okay, that you're like, God, I hope he answers. And as someone you have a conversation with a few times a week or no, talk to you daily.

It's just different whenever you know that person. I mean, I've spotted a far back. You're like, man, I hope the guy's okay. But I didn't know them. You spot for one of your friends. And, I mean, like yesterday, you're spotting and then you go into, oh, I care mode. And it's like. Even any of these guys.

Are you okay? And you let that button go and you're like, please your God answer. Yeah. Like, I know Justin fairly well. I mean, we don't hang out a lot away from the track, but like at Daytona when he had that wreck at Daytona and I couldn't hear him. Man, it's the worst knot in your stomach. Yeah.

It's terrible. It's bad. Yeah. When they don't answer you back and they're stuck up against the wall, I was worried about them. Yeah. Because you instantly think about, okay, wife, kid, you know, happy life, everything, and all because of just an accident. Yeah.

As soon, Clint didn't say he was okay. He was cussing. I was like, oh, he's okay. He's alive, and he's still Clint Boyer. Thank you, baby, Jesus. Didn't he say something like, damn her or something? He went bananas. Because they were, they were tweeting and stuff.

I was reading as they were doing it. Yeah, he said he was mad. Thank God. What did he say? I've never been so happy to hear him mad. You would just be one big beep. You don't be able to hear any of it. I will say, hey, one thing that we haven't talked about before,

did you see the Kurt's helmet cam? No. Oh, my gosh. You didn't see it? Uh-uh. Holy cow, we got to look at this real quick. And I'm a huge fan of NBC doing this because I'm, that F-1 view of the cockpit is my favorite view in all of motorsports. So the fact that NBC has adapted this, and I think I even tweeted, I'm glad about it.

I rewind it. There comes. Oh, a helmet cam. Yeah, that's nice. It's way better than just that typical end-car camera. Watch this. Moving like crazy. Oh, that's when it hits.

That's when it scared me. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy That is a crazy shot And he can't see nothing No, and that's just how quick stuff Can happen Well, you're coming

I mean, you're all in the gas At that point, you're running wide open 190 plus miles an hour The only thing that would have made that word Is it was at the end of the front stretch Because then you're going to slide And you're going to slide Until you hit a wall for sure

Yeah Anyway, wrecks are bad More helmet cams Yeah They're pretty awesome I got beat My guy outran Suarez Blaney out ran Suarez all day

And at the end It's like whoever does the best for 90% of the race is going to lose this year. Dude, that's happened to me so many times. I know. Danny at Kansas? Yeah. He was going to run like third or something.

Yeah. Now we're going to Pocono. And you get Greg Alding. And here's the thing. I don't mind losing this week. If I lose, I lose. But I'm not going to lose without going down swinging. I'm going to go with Ross Chastain.

He swan. The flying fajita. Daniel. Oh, you're trying to back me up. here. Danielle Souris. I think this guy's got the horse power to get her done. I don't.

I think he's got the horse power. I don't know if he. Yeah, no. Good call on that one. I'm glad you picked him. So I'm going to go with Derek Cout. I'm going to take the guy that we just watched on the video right there who has done very well at Pocono. He has.

Kurt Busch. That's a good pick. That's a better pick than mine. I like Soros, man. I think this kid. I do, too. He needs more experience. He is, and he's running better.

I mean, there's a lot of times yesterday I looked down and he was in the top 12. He totally runs like pure dog do-doo the first half of the race. Yeah. He gets a lucky dog or does something, you know, just hangs out just fast enough to kind of be there. Yeah. And then at the end of the race, he's making up, he's just smart. He's driving smart races. Yeah.

So, and this is what I saw him do at the Cassini Race at Homestead. He has a smart spotter, and that matters. Yeah. Yesterday, before we wrecked, we're going down the backstretch, and I literally said to Clint, hey, Eric Jones is catching you. He's the only one catching you. If he catches us, we need to just let him go and get back to our deal. And then I look in front of us and you got Menard on old tires, Danica on old tires.

Danica is getting ready to get passed by seven cars. The point of her racing everybody hard is pointless. They're still going to pass her or you can cause a wreck. Unfortunately, what happened is the way they were racing eventually caused a wreck. But the more you know, the more educated you are in the car, the better of an opportunity you have to make a good decision. If you don't know all the scenarios and what's going on and who's on what tires and you can't just be a spotter and say, oh, I'm spotter, I got it. Now, you've got to pay close attention. Who's on two?

Who's on four? Who's fuel only? And that's a good thing about Channel 2 is sometimes you can go back and get that information from the pit box. But the more aware of your guy is, the better decision he's going to make. And I'm not talking about in one straight away. I'm talking about in life while he's in a race car. There's also the fact that the more experienced spotters can also tell the driver, look, this guy's faster.

Just don't mess with him, let him go. And that's just something that the driver respects you enough. He understands exactly what you're saying, and he's going to do that. Yeah, I'm not telling you because I want that guy to pass you. I'm telling you because I don't want to race him side by side for three laps and have four more cars catches. Right, right. So there's a difference in that, and Suarez has to have. as a spotter that can tell him, look, you need to calm down here, you need to stay right here,

this guy's way fast and you, let him go. And it's a smarter decision for everybody at that point in time. So we're off to Pocono. Y'all are off to Iowa. I'm not. You're off? I got my off weekend. Every weekend's an off weekend for you.

What? You can't go away for one night. Travel. One night's too much. Josh can handle it. Oh my gosh. He can handle it. I had to handle it when we were in Kentucky and he took off.

You can't make me go back to Iowa. I'm over it. Why? Because it made me super sick last time. I had to take Monday off. I was so sick. Who is they? Yeah.

Who is they what? Who is they? They made me sick. Iowa. I'm driving to Chiquettee Island today. I love Shinkatique. I used to go on vacation there and Asateek when I was younger. I've never heard of it, but my little girl's reading a book.

Joby. About a horses that are going to swim across the ocean. Yep. Where is that at? So she comes to me like, Dad, can we go see these horses swim across an ocean? I'm like, where is that? You're driving to Maryland today? Yeah. How many hours is that?

Seven. Yeah, it's the same to PA. So Cheek-a-T guy. It's so much fun. Just watch out for the flies. A ton of flies. Like maggots flies? No, just like regular flies.

Horse flies? So have a flaswater and your Cichinella candles. I don't know. I've never seen a fly that didn't land on. So I'm going to watch. I'm going to tell you what's going to have on my luck. They're going to bring 150 horses over and they're going to swim across the ocean. I got my kids watch.

and 149 of these damn things will drown. They're not going to. They swim all the time. That's my luck. The current's going to get real strong. It's not like ocean. Is that a shark? Okay.

Thanks to one main. Is the shark going to eat those horses? An hour and nine minutes so far. Are those great whites? Take shit to do. There's nothing to do there. It's just beach. That turned into a shark feeding ground.

I'm taking a yetty cooler. There's plenty to do there. All right. Thanks to one main and Exalta. We'll see y'all later. See you. Bye. You've been listening to Door Bumper Clear, brought to you by One Main.

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