Door Bumper Clear - 86 - We Out!

Episode Date: November 20, 2017

TJ, Brett, and Josh are Kristen-less as they bring you the final episode of the season and talk JRM’s championship, Truex, Dale’s last ride, racing title contenders, Danica, and strange food. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors, the old spotter, the 88 cup car. The old spotter of the seven, Xfinity car, and the old spotter of the 29 latest winning truck. Brett Griffin's spotter, I hope, still. For Clint Boyer next year, Elliot. Sadler, Mike Snyder, welcome to the last edition this season of Door Bumper Clear, brought to you by One Main Financial. Are we not doing a Christmas episode?

Well, I didn't say it was the last one this year. I said this season. Season's true. We are Kristenless today. We're Kristenless. You are Kristenless. You do have producer Amish Josh. Yes.

I got a lot of shoutouts, by the way, when I was making my way back and forth between championship stage and the haulers. See, Josh? You just embrace this. I got to go ahead and apologize to the listeners right now. or at least the ones that were in homestead. I didn't really have a chance to stop and say hello. If I was being in an a-h-h-h-knored you, I'm sorry.

We just had kind of a lot of stuff going on. I definitely think he was... What do you think Chris is doing right now? Wow. She is in New Orleans. Yeah. Nalens. And if she's not drinking right now...

I hope a Zicoe is not with her. You remember that video of him pulling that girl's boobs out? That's what I just envisioned. I hope he's not with her. If so, she's going to end up on the CNN or something. Should we, like, FaceTime or something? See if she'll answer? She ain't going to answer.

She's not going to answer. She's not going to answer when she's working. No. She's definitely not going to answer when she's not. No. You know, it's not on the show sheet for some reason. And I looked at it this morning, and I was like, huh? Yeah.

Congratulations to the number nine team. Yes. 2017 Xfinity Series champions. Big deal. Junior Motorsports brought it home. We said at the beginning of the year we would, and we did. Yeah, I'm not going to lie, though. That 21 was making me nervous.

Isn't it ironic that he broke something? A battery issue. Okay. First of all, the dude was 20th in practice on Friday, and then he finds, you know, half a second speed for Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, you broke. Of course you did. Yeah. Yeah. I'm calling a little bit of BS on that. I mean... It's ironic that he was literally not that fast all year. And then the last two races, he's flying.

You put a little more effort into it. Sure. But, I mean, that was, you're talking. And I honestly think Daniel Hammack's a great driver, too. He's really impressed me coming from. And he's... I like him a lot. Yeah, he's came up like a lot of these,

like a lot of these guys that are now starting to retire have. He came up through the super late model, super late model ranks and worked his way up. And, you know, now he's a local boy, too. He's from Canapolis. Yeah. So, and he's a great dude, man. Great kid.

I really hope he has a long, successful career in the sport. I said it last week he's the best driver at RCR. Yeah, he looks. That's true. I do believe that. Yeah. Bob Hawkers pulled me aside at the media event in Miami, and he's like, I almost told Daniel Hemrick that I heard he was the best driver at RCR.

I said, you didn't hear it. He is. Yeah. By the way, were you getting a foot massage? Or what? Where? Something in Miami? I got a real massage.

I'm real massage. Oh, like a real massage? I got a real massage. We're talking Daytona Beach massage? Now we're talking Miami Beach massage. The real massage. I think she was honestly trying to give me to screen.

Like my shoulder right. Oh, did you get the deep tissue? Oh, dude, I was in pain. Deep tissues. And I was like, I can't tell her it's too hard because that would make me a wuss. And I don't want to be a wuss right now. You can't tell a girl she's massaging you're too hard. No.

No. No. No. You can't. You can't do it. Well, good for you. I'm glad you got to massage. Did you do anything in Miami?

Not really. What night did you drink? All the nights. All the days. Josh and I were just talking before you got here. He started drinking as soon as the race started, and I started drinking as soon as it ended. I had a good old buddy Tim Fido, a carpool with me home last night, thank God. because that plane ride

we got to have a couple beers on pit road yeah another 15 20 minutes most of the 88 team would have been hammered yeah they were going down yeah and there was a I mean it was kind of a weird scenario but um

it was kind of a kind of a fun it reminded me of uh what racing used to be like so anyway so I had Something in South Beach I never had before. It's called Cream of Corn Broulet.

It sounds good. Like cream brulee? So it was cream of corn, and then they did that burnt sugar thing on top. Yeah, I had that in Kansas kind of. Man. In a barbecue deal. Yeah. It was really, really, really, really, really good.

Yeah, the burnt sugar thing. It's hard to beat that. Burt sugar. Yeah. I mean, it was good. Yeah. But anyway, so having the beers around. in the car reminded me of a Saturday night short track race.

Yeah. We were in no hurry to leave, and it was actually pretty awesome for once. Like, you're just kind of hanging out, and we started telling jokes and hanging out, and Dale Jr. was doing media after media, and then he got done with all that, and then he was just sitting there hanging out with, like, it was fun. Like, it reminded me of, like, after an outlaw race, when you can walk through the pit area there, and most of the guys that, you know, they're sitting there at the back of their cars, and kids are coming by, taking pictures and stuff.

It reminded me of that. I can't believe the last race the year he doesn't let you fly home with him. I can't believe it. What happened? I don't know. I guess he was done. I guess I should have walked off with five to go or something. He just kicked you right off the plane.

Yeah, he kicked me right off. Somebody take your seat or just like a... Well, you know, I went to go... Since there was some family coming out and I always have a ride on the team playing, I was like, you know... You were being nice. I was being nice. And then I realized, you know, someone... Bozo upstairs, Tony Mayhoff,

was just going to go ahead and work half the week and ride on it. So Tony took your seat. I thought I was doing the right. He just started working for Adele Jr. this year. How many years you've been working with Dale Jr.? Over 10? I mean, gosh.

Since the eight car, last 10 races with the eight car. And he just. Well, Tony comes in. I'm going to go down here to work a little bit, blah, blah, blah. I'm standing around. And I'm going to fly home earlier. That's cool. So you don't think Tony really did anything all weekend?

He did a little bit in the beginning of the week. He had to go to Key West and he was helping. Oh, that's tough. Yeah. He had a hard. Okay. He was in Key West and Miami. So.

And he gets paid to do this? Yeah, apparently. I'm going to say he's probably not doing it for free. What a great gig. Yeah. Tony. Coming for you. Yeah.

Why didn't you shift into that? that role? Because Tony's already got it? Yeah, I mean. But Tony just got it. Yeah. Yeah, no. I'm good on that.

No? Yeah, no. Who's Tony's boss? Mike Davis. Mike Davis? Yeah. Who's Mike Davis's boss? Dale Earnhardt Jr.

I would probably say it would probably be Kelly and Dell Jr. Yeah. You think Dale Jr. is a tough. balls? No, and yes, at the same time, because I know what he can be like when he gets in these little moods and stuff like it. He almost broke my ankle earlier this year. That shit is so funny.

Them two playing basketball against each other. But yeah, you know, there's times when I, and it's usually not me. I've just seen him get on Tyler a handful of times. And Tyler just try, you know, half the time they expect people. I bet Tyler doesn't say a word, does he? Not a lot. They expect people like Tyler, and he will when Mike Davis was in that role.

They expect them guys to make decisions for them. Yeah. And make the right one based on them knowing him and what he likes and stuff like that. And Tyler's made a few decisions. And he was like, why are we doing that? And then he'll go and, you know, want something else and be like, oh, you're right. Shoot it on the other thing.

And then Tyler's just like, you can't win. Yeah. And, but yeah, I'm good on that rule. I really don't want to deal with that stuff. So Tyler gets to ride around on limousines, jump on helicopters, fly on private chips, live large, big house. Hang out with Dale Jr. and get paid to do it. Yeah.

And he's on his podcast. I will say Tyler's day is pretty busy. I mean, I've been around him quite a bit. He's constantly, you know, someone's calling him wanting something all the time. Yeah. Can Del Jr. do this? Can we go here? Can we bump this up an hour?

Can we move this back? Can we fly this day instead? There's always something going on. I wouldn't want to deal with that. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, Tyler, Tyler's done a really good job since he's been in here. That's good, man. Well, we're a-

Tony on the other hand. Tony just bumps you right off the plane. I bet he wasn't even here on time. Betty, we see him walk by here. Yeah. Dude got home at like 10 or something. Great gig if you can get it. Yeah.

Geez. All right, you guys want to go in a spot-on, spot off? Let's Josh. We just want to roast people. Josh is and Tony's job. Two easiest in the company. Yeah. be my guess, bud.

Josh told me that Jeff Gordon showed up on Pitt Road. So Josh was telling me before you got here that Jeff Gordon's there, Rick Hendricks there, Dale Jr.'s there. All these people are there, which means there's a lot of fans there. There's a lot of media there. And Josh was having to play security. Yeah. Pit Road at Homestead is not very big. You'd be a good security guy.

I saw a girl in Miami. I don't know if you saw her. Was it a shoe show? Sixth floor where we'd have to go to the bathroom. She was a whopping four-foot-tall security guard. I looked at her and I said, honey, you might want to find a new line of work. You're the smallest security guard I've ever seen in my life. Hey, by the way, on the way back to Ocalaaka.

Yeah, Obelagalca. Yeah, I saw the greatest shoe show name. What was the name of her? Booby Trap. Booby Trap. Greatest name ever. That is pretty good. It was on the right.

Yeah. Boobie Trap. night too how was it i didn't go didn't have a chance you didn't get booby trapped in the movie no sure didn't let's go back down there tonight it's only 11 hours yeah maybe dale junior takes it yeah let's ask you just play let's just ask tony yeah let's go into this thing tony all right spot on spot off tricks junior wins first career championship i don't know how you go spot off on that martin's the fastest car all year dominated dominated a lot of races and uh carried into the championship.

So he's earned it. Yeah, spot on. You know, I really feel like Kyle Busch and his crew chief gave this race away. They opted a different pit strategy. And when a caution came out, it put Kyle in fifth or sixth place. Whereas he was leading the race prior to the cycle of pit stops because he waited so long to pit. I think he actually came off of pit road in eighth or ninth place. so he went from leading the race to eighth or ninth based solely on their strategy because in the long run over the course of the long run

Kyle Busch had the fastest car and I mean by a lot oh use hauling true X's pit crew hats off to those guys they put him in that position with great pit stops he to tj's point was the fastest car consistently throughout the year especially at these mile and a halfs so happy for him happy for Sherry, his spotter Clayton, you know, my buddy Jazzy's an engineer over there. Jazzie Jeff. Rick Wainwright is over there. I got a lot of friends on that team and I think it's really cool

that the non-Charlotte team won. I mean, these guys are based out of Denver, Colorado. They have somewhat of a following out there. So, spot on, man. Good job. Good for you. I just got a man, the first thing I thought about when I got my car and headed to the airport was

like at what point, have you you've been an expedient champion and became a cup champion because those two things are extremely difficult to pull off. Do you go, okay, I'm at the end of my career. I'm going to go run trucks until I win a truck championship to be the first guy ever to win all three. Like we looked at Greg Biffel. We had some guys come up that had a shot to do that, Austin Dillon. But again, when you get the cup, man, it's hard to win it.

Yeah, it's real hard to win it. Would you, if you knew you had two years left, you were going to race, would you stop and go run a truck deal to be the first ever if you were rich enough because i mean look these guys keep running cup because it pays a pile of money right um maybe the last year or so if it if i could get in a really competitive truck but i mean it'd be hard at that point because you know you're probably going to take a pretty severe pay cut yeah to go and do it you're basically not going to you i mean go from a cup driver give 10 million a million yeah i mean if even that if if that so yeah i mean it Do you, is it worth nine?

Is it worth 9.5 do you? But if I got 60 million in the bank, probably. I'd like 70. If I had those juniors money, yeah. Well, yeah, maybe. I had T.J. Major's money for sure. Yeah. You'd be in the Chuck series for life.

I'll be doing PR. Yeah, for the truck series. All right, spot on, spot off. Boss Mandel's last ride. You know, spot on? because he's doing it the right way and he's getting to choose his path. Spot off because now I have to find someone else to work with. You already have somebody else to work.

I know, but I mean, you know, you don't. I heard that Kyle Bush was complaining about Joy Lagana than the way he raced him at the end. I'm sure he was. I watched it a little bit, but I mean, huh, I wonder if he saw the race the day before. Hmm. I mean, when a JGR team raced another guy like crap. Oh, don't worry. We're about to talk about it.

I don't think um Doge Jr's last ride back to that all right uh yeah I'm done on that one spot on

I mean here's a guy that's a 172 time most popular driver multiple dates on a 500 winner Bush series champion this guy's had twice a hell of a run

you know and and the first time I met him was back in 1998 1999 and I've seen him grow a lot as a person and not necessarily as close as TJ has, obviously. But just, man, he went into a period where he went into a shell and you didn't see him.

And then all of a sudden, you know, Steve LaTartre got there and it's like Steve LaTart and Amy started bringing him out of his shell and you started seeing him more in public and you started seeing him at Michelle's in Dover, you know, at the restaurant. And it's like, man, this guy's got some normalcy back in his life. And I've been around some people that have done that same thing. and you literally watch it and you go, man, I feel bad for them. They feel like they can't go anywhere. And just to see what he's done personally and professionally,

man, he had more pressure, arguably, than anybody's ever had because of his name and because of his father passing and the way that he handled it and as professional and as successful as he's been, man, nothing but spot on and kudos to that guy. Yeah, there's one thing to say about that is they don't, you know, the popularity on that is like when he would go and have a we would have a bad race you don't want it like most of these people how many people you really think get on you know uh you know landing castle if he has a bad race right he probably has a few things here and there whatever this guy's got majority of the nascar fans looking at it you know i truly believe he has 80% of the fan base that cares about him in some capacity it may not be their favorite driver but they're relevant to him. But he's got people to answer to a lot of people to answer to after every race. Yeah.

So, and I think he's handled all that as good as you can handle it. He's always, he's always taught to everybody. He's always signed everything you can find. You know what I mean? He was one of the last to get on social media. And when he got there, he was one of the biggest at, regardless of how he performed, to your point. Yeah. He engaged people.

He went on Twitter. He went on Periscope. Like, he did all those things. So, yeah. I mean, I don't know that he could have done anything any better. I'm just really happy for you guys that he was able to come back. He was able to run all the races this year. And he was able to hang his hat up when he wanted to and the way he wanted to.

Because we talk about that all the time on this show. You don't always get to do that. Like Matt's not getting that choice. Yeah, the sport quits you before you quit the sport. Absolutely. We say I don't hear a lot. All right. Just a little forewarning.

There's going to be a lot of beats in this next little thing here. But spot on, spot off. Ryan Priest interferes with Xfinity title battle. I'm not going to give my opinion up front. I may end up giving it out of frustration, but I'm going to state facts. We're racing for a championship. William Byron and ourselves are swapping it back and forth.

Great racing, by the way. And this has been going on for dozens upon dozens upon dozens of laps. You know, through pit stops, it's just, it's a great race. It's great entertainment for the fans. Ryan Preece is in a position where he's racing for a. owner's championship in his third or fourth ever exfinity race. So a lot of pressure, right? The guy he's racing for that championship is 10 seconds ahead of him. Now I'm going to stop right here for a second. What the fuck is an owner's championship and what does it mean to our fans?

I want every fan listening to this to ask yourself, what does an owner's championship mean to you and what does it mean to our sport? And you're going to sit there and you're going to go, well, I don't know because it's not what the sports promotions are built around. They're built around the drivers. They'll build around the athletes. They're not built around a car owner winning a championship. They're built around the guy holding the steering wheel. So the guy that he's racing for this owner's championship is 10 seconds ahead of him,

which means he can't even see him. Here comes guys, William Byron and Elliott Sadler, from a straightaway behind is how far we run him down. Now, I realize that he's racing for something. But the biggest plot of the whole play is coming to you and you have a decision to make. Race them hard and get in the middle of it, which is fine. That's your choice. Or get the fuck out of the way and let these guys figured out themselves. And NASCAR was constantly yesterday on our radio telling people like Jamie McMurray,

get out of the way and let these guys figure it out themselves. So for people to not understand Elliott's frustration and my frustration and our race team's frustration, you're idiots if you don't understand why we're mad. Because Ryan Priest is not going to win an owner's championship. People say, what if you'll have come out? Well, what if a million dollars falls out of the sky and I don't go get any of it? Like, don't give me that hypothetical. So I honestly think that Ryan,

didn't know what was coming. I think his spotter. I walked down to the spotter, and I was like, hey, Rick, man, just don't screw us. Stood there like a mannequin. Didn't say, yes, no, maybe.

I don't know. I heard through the grapevine that he didn't tell him anything. So either the spotter didn't give him information for him to make a good decision, or he flat out didn't make a good decision. I haven't talked to Ryan Priest yet. I'm still trying to calm down before that happens.

But if I were Elliott after the race, I'd have been pissed too. You were waiting to hit that button. Yeah. I would I see both sides of it I would be I would be pissed too

I would be pretty mad and upset but I think was he racing the 9 for the owner's championship as well he was yeah

I mean there's just a lot of things landed just right to make it a bad situation but he let 9 go that's the guy he let go well he didn't let him go he raced us

and then he I mean I saw how the passes I mean, William, William timed his run a little bit better when he got there, in my opinion. He timed a little bit better. Man, William drove as good over races as I've ever seen any human being driving. Both of them. I mean, that race was fun to watch.

That was Elliot and, I mean, once one guy would get in front of the other guy, you're kind of like, okay, this guy's going to check out a little bit. No. I mean, the other guy would get faster behind him. It's like, what a good? But here's the thing. Like, I mean, we got the 42 behind us. And kudos to the 42 driver, Tyler Redick on Saturday and Kyle Larson

yesterday. because both scenarios, they have the same spotter, Derek, out of Maine. Great dude. And in both scenarios, Derek was going around telling everybody, hey, I'm not going to try and pass you. I'm not getting in the middle of this. So the maturity of that spotter and that driver versus what we saw with Ryan Priest is pretty, pretty ridiculous, to be honest. And there might have been more, like, I know we don't, I don't really look at the owner's championship that much, but I know that. There's money involved.

Well, I mean, yeah, I know that's what I'm saying. That's all that it is. Well, there's people. And it's stupid. Do away with it. Well, there's people that do care about it. The owners are, it's a pretty big deal to the owners. I mean, obviously they filled cars for the 22, we had salmon there for a reason. Yeah.

You know, they filled these cars. From a marketing perspective and a fan-based perspective, it's stupid. I don't, I pay no attention to it all year. But to the, if I owned a car, I probably would. Yeah, well, again, because it's money. But, you know, I see both sides of it. I would be, if it was the seven and I ran them down and he was right there, I'd be just as, you know, I'd be upset with him as well.

Dale Jr. should be on the stage at the banquet as the owner champion, as a driver champion is, or whatever. It looks stupid to have two champions. Yeah, I don't know why the, I don't know why the owner isn't. So this, whatever. So the nine cars owner is not a champion? You know, well, I mean, technically the owner of the nine is Rick Hendrick. Right. Yeah, which he was on stage to get that.

Yeah. And so was. But that should be also. Well, what I was trying to say, like this is kind of off topic, but it was kind of cool. I don't know if you guys saw or if you saw a replay. But Roger Penske and Rick Hendrick both on stage at the same time. One is the owner's championship. One is the regular championship, and they switched hats with each.

I thought that was a pretty good sign of respect. Okay. I hope that Ryan Priest, you know, he, quote, showed some remorse. And then one of those VIP guys on NASCAR was like, don't ever show remorse for racing hard. There's a difference between racing hard and race is stupid. And I think it's, man, I had so many spotters, multiple drivers, including a JGR driver, texts me after the race, saying, man, I'm sorry. It shouldn't have gone down like that.

And I think T.J. and myself and so many other spotters wouldn't have wanted to put our driver in that position to be that guy, especially his third or fourth race ever. You know, and I realized two things. Number one, everybody that's an Elliot Sadler fan was pissed off. And this guy's one most popular driver twice. So he's got a good fan base, right? Everybody that's a William Byron fan or a Ryan Priest fan or a Joe Gibbs Racing fan or a Toyota fan are happy. And I don't give a shit about all you people right now.

Not right now, I don't. I'll be over maybe by Daytona or maybe I won't. I didn't sleep a wink that night. Like literally, didn't sleep a wink. I mean, just you're mad. You're like, you never know, though, that going into that race, they might have told Ryan, like, all right, Ryan, we want to get the best finish of playing. We're trying to win this owner's championship.

I need you to go out there and try to win it. I mean, you know, if he has orders like that, I don't know. Supposedly, they told him after the nine got by him, hey, just let these guys go to the race for a championship. Should have told him that 10 seconds. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. Is he in the wrong for then? I mean, his boss, he's trying to make, he doesn't have a ride yet. He does.

He's got a dozen races sold next year. But, I mean, he's still trying to make his career. He's still trying to make his career. But at the end of the day, he has two options. Race hard or race smart. And he picked race hard. And again, there's not a rule against what he did. I'm not saying that he committed a crime.

It just comes down to, you know, do you want to be involved in this conversation or not? And he put himself in the middle of that conversation. Spot on, spot off. Danica to retire after running 2018, Daytona 500 and Indy 500. Did you see what Brian? France said yesterday. No. About Matt Kenseth and Danica Patrick exiting the sport.

Y'all didn't see it? I failed to see it. Okay. So he's in his press conference and they're talking to him. And Brian France was asked a question about these two guys and girls. A guy and girl, Kenseth and Danica. Having to step away from the sport, even though they don't want to, simply because they can't find sponsorship. And his answer was, if you don't perform at a high level, no matter who you are, it's going to be very difficult to stay in this sport.

Matt just won. Does he know Matt, Kansas? The guy's a champion. The guy is a race winner. He made your playoff. He's a postseason team. This is like saying, you know, congratulations, Kansas City Chiefs. You guys are made.

You guys made the AFC championship, but you're not good enough to continue. I didn't see that. That quote makes a bite as no sense, man. But I mean, here's the reality. Danica brought a huge fan base to the sport because very few people in IndyCar probably had a bigger name that she did. She had a big name in Indy car because of how well she ran at Indy. I feel like she was able to hang her hat on being a good race. race car driver solely because of how good she was at Indy.

She got here. She had some success in the Infinity Series. Ran real good at road courses, good at plate races. You know, probably kept the lights on at Junior Motorsports. If we're going to be honest with each other. She brought some sponsorship dollars here. And my little girls love her. Yeah.

I saw all these people trolling her on social media saying, you suck. Go home, leave. Like, let me tell you guys something. She is the equivalent to President Barack Obama. she defied everything to get to where she's at. She freaking came up through the ranks as a woman race car driver and made it to the most elite series in America. She's done what people's saying probably can't be done.

She did it. So, man, I love her. I don't know her personally, but I love what she's represented. I'll say this and I'll shut up. If she had been as gracious and as nice all the time as she was in her press conference, she'd still be here. Because her outward personality and persona to the public, she's a little bit of a hard to get along with feisty chick.

She's fisty. If she'd have been that sweet and genuine all the time, she'd probably still be here. Yeah, she's very genuine when you know her. She's very, very genuine. You work with her two years? I worked for her about almost two years. Favorite thing about her?

When you do know that side of her, I mean, she's very, very genuine. Like the, I think my favorite story about her, we were at Del Jern's New Year's Eve party, and we're standing there, and all of a sudden I get this text message about 1130 at night, and it's from Danica. It's like, hey, I really had a lot of fun working me this year. I'm looking really forward to next year. Thank you for everything you've done. I mean, out of nowhere.

And just, you know, if her even to think about that, to send that message was, you know, and when you know her personally, she's very, like, she's fun. She's nice. Like, she's normal. Yeah. And, but where did Kurt finish when he ran the Indy 500? Sixth, fourth. There's top six.

Okay, didn't she run right in that area? She hauled ass. She ran like fourth or fifth, I thought, as well. And she, the last time she ran it. Yeah. And Kurt's a... He's an exceptional driver. Yeah, so, I mean, she's not a terrible driver.

She can drive things. I mean, how do you go run like that in Indy 500? Like, that's not easy to do. So, you know, she's definitely opened a lot of doors for people. And, you know, if you saw that side of her, I think you, a lot of people, that goes with a lot of these drivers. People go out there and, you know, they might boo somebody, but you don't really know

that guy. You know, they might be different than, but is what it is. I think that she is and was and forever will be an inspiration. And I think that everything she did will at some point be very documented, where it'll be than a 30 for 30 or what, man. Like, you can't, you can't not say she's. successful. Now look, man, has she won a race? No, but she won a poll. You know, she's run well at places. I mean, there were a lot of times we thought she was going to have good runs. Like the time

Joy Lugano blew a brake rotor and killed her. Yeah, that's terrible. Amarola broke his back in that wreck. I mean, there were times where she was having good days and it seemed to always, for whatever reason for her, get screwed up. Yeah. She's, I don't know, people will say she's not successful. She's been pretty successful. Yeah. I mean, just because she doesn't have, you know, 15 top tens or 20 top fives, I mean, doesn't mean she's not successful. I don't know that we've ever seen any driver say, my last two races are going to be the biggest

races in America. Yeah. They're going to be. It's going to be the Daytona 500, which for me is the biggest race in the world. I don't care what you say about Monaco or whatever. The Daytona 500 for Brett Griffin is the biggest race in the world. And she's going to turn right around in the same year and make her last. last race in the other series, which is a series that got her here, her last race, which is one of

the biggest races in America. What if she swept them? That would be great. All right, spot on, spot off, 2017 season as a whole. I mean, it was entertaining. I had a little bit of everything. A little bit of fighting at the beginning of the year. You know, we had some controversy in the chase a little bit.

We've had some controversy all year. You know, with wins and... and cucumber stuff. You know, I hope, you know, we can learn from this year. I feel like we learned a lot of things this year. They can make some fine-tune adjustments for next year with no big changes, but I think there's a few things they could do. You know, after victories, we don't need to be tearing the cars up.

I think there's certain things they can do to help level the playing field a little bit and get these races, you know, more on an equal playing field. I guess for me, man, like I don't have a spot on, spot off. I just look at it from a relationship standpoint, and I got to say it's heartbreaking. I mean, we got Dale Jr. stepping away. Matt Kinza stepping away. Danica Patrick stepping away. You know, Elliot losing the championship at the last minute was six to go.

Like, there's a lot of things, you know, Clint finishing second three times. Like you just, for me personally, I just look at this season as the racing was as good as I've ever seen it. in the Cup series. I think they've got the rules package where you can have the lead and still the guy in second place to be able to run you down to pass you and we hadn't seen that in a while.

But just from a relationship standpoint, man, I got to say this year was pretty heartbreaking, pretty tough swallow. I think the racing was better. I think we need more manufacturers and being competitive. I feel like there's like two of them pretty far behind.

Yeah. I mean, the thing is, you've got, you know, you got all these guys stepping down. And I'm going to give hats off to what I'm about to say. I mean, you're looking at Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Dell Jr., Carl Edwards, Matt Kens, Greg Biffle, Danica Patrick, like all of these huge names stepping down over the course of the last three years. But the infusion of young talent that gets here, they have to be challenged with putting on a show. And T.J. knows this. You guys know this. Like, to some degree, the show is only as good as the talent. And if these

guys go out there and ride around single file at Talladega, it's boring. But these young guys coming in, if they're tasked with, make this entertaining, race your asses off, which they've done, man, Chase Elliott, Blaney. I mean, these guys are really, really good. So if we can go in and these guys do that, they can elevate us from a competition standpoint. We have a long ways to go in terms of their names and their legacies and being able to bring butts to seats and eyeballs to TVs. but if they do it and they do it well, the sport will be fine. We have what's growing is the guys that don't know any better yet. Really, they're coming in here and their care level for what could possibly happen is pretty low.

Pretty low. And that's kind of what we need. We need the guy that's going to make that bold move to the bottom at Phoenix and go three wide. Is it going to make it or not? That's what we want to see. I don't want to see all these guys go in there, single file, and come off the corner. and see whose car is faster in 30 laps. And then going a bike ride together after the race?

I want to see these guys come in there. I want to see a guy going on there. Ruff the other guy up a little bit. Chase Elliott pretty much said that he wasn't, you know, Phoenix as soon as Denny went around him, he basically laid the bumper to him and said, look, dude, you're going to have fun time with me today. Yeah.

And then you got Cindrick in the truck series. You know, he's made it pretty interesting this year a few times. He basically showed a Mossport. He's going to do whatever it takes to win. Yeah. And then at Phoenix, he did the same thing. I mean, he didn't, in my opinion, he knew anything wrong, but he made it exciting. Yeah.

And these kids are going to, these young guys are going to do that. I know some of these guys aren't going to make that move because, you know, they know what could possibly happen. They don't want that outcome. Right. So they announced that Ford deal yet? Which one? For those kids? I don't think so.

No. No, I don't think so. But it's going to be fun. We got. You look at Briscoe. I mean, you spot it for him this week. I think Chase is great. Kid wins a race.

He should have won. two or three this year. I think he won Texas still. Briscoe wins a race. Cendrick makes the playoff, wins a race. You got Ty Majesky sitting there. Man, he ran a very good race. I thought he ran a good race. I learned a lot.

Yeah. A lot of pressure on that kid, man. You put him in this championship race, second race ever. That's a tough track. Ford is going to do what we said 10, 12 weeks ago on the show, the manufacturers have to do. Get involved. Get a development deal. Bring these guys up from the ground level.

when you look at Suarez, you look at Jones, you look at Christopher Bell, like Toyota is doing that better than these other manufacturers. And I think you'll see Ford announce that they're going to do something with these kids. But, man, just the model standpoint, it's hard to watch Briscoe win the race. It's hard to watch Cendrick win the race make the playoff, and then their team go completely out of business. That's the only thing. My problem with it is I wish they would have done more with those trucks.

so they had a good feeder deal, you know, to put them in there. Yeah. You know, guys like Bell have been driving nothing but grade A stuff the whole, the whole time here. Right. And that's what they're putting them in. They're teaching them that way, you know, which is fine, but they've got the greatest program to teach these kids.

Your owner, your driver, your team with that truck, all in lame duck. It's all going out of business. they show up and win the last race. That says a lot about their commitment, their work ethic. Yeah, you know, I don't think Brad said numerous times that he is, he's not done being a car owner. So I think he is, I think what he's doing is he's just sitting back and he's going to re, you know, gather, you know, build back up a little bit here. And then I'm not sure what he's going to do.

But to me, if I know Brad, he's going to, I think he's, Brad's very calculated. Look at the owners, man. They're all old. And Brad's. They're all old. I'm talking about cup owners. We're talking Roger Penske, Rick Hendrick, Richard Childress, Richard Petty. These guys are all extremely aged in terms of how much longer can they do this.

And you look at guys like Jeff Gordon. And it's like, man, he needs to be more involved on the ownership side. We need Dale Jr. to take Junior Motorsports to the Cup series. We need young owners, not for just the fact that they're young, We need them for the longevity of the sport. Yeah. I think Brad knows what he's doing business-wise. And him saying that he's not done being an owner, I'd fully believe that.

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Yada, yada, yada, yada. Yeah, if you don't know how to do Fast Lane, then listen to the first season. Furniture Row went from a struggling single-car team a decade ago to champions this year. Do you think another small cup team will ever accomplish this feat again, Brett? I mean, you hate to say never.

I don't think they're a small cup team. I think they have a lot of funding. I think they are very well-funded two-car team, obviously going back to a one-car team next year. But they've been the fastest Toyota for the last two years. They get their cars and their motors through Gibbs, and they do their own bodies. And at the end of the day, man, I think we may see it again next year.

I think they're definitely going to be a contender to repeat based on their speed. Yeah, it took them a little while. to get the ball rolling on this. It took them, you know, a handful of drivers too. And, you know, I think once they formed that, once they formed that, that relationship with JGR and started getting some things from them, they were already really, you know, fast, that kind of pushed them to the next level. They obviously have the right people there and a lot of smart people there to take what they

could get and make it better. So, yeah, congrats to them. And, you know, it's been a, it's definitely, you know, been fun watching them. go from the bottom up, but they have had a lot of funding from the beginning. Colpern is a very smart guy. Jazzy, their engineer, very smart guy. Gary, their car chief, very smart guy. Like, this sport can be all about two things.

Resources, which typically comes from money and people, and they've obviously got both going for them. The first year stage racing is now complete. Did it help or hurt competition in 2017? I think it helped the competition instead of, you know, There's parts of me that don't like it, but I like the fact that, you know, if you do have to go to the back in the very beginning, you kind of got the first stage break to not go a lap down. You can still kind of make your way up. It also kind of resets the field a little bit here. You know, it kind of resets the field.

And, you know, I don't know, I like that it can make guys more aggressive at times than you actually, I think the point playoff, the point payoff for it was good. I think stage racing is phenomenal, especially. especially in the cup series the way it's set up. I think in the lower series, two stages prior to the checker flag is one too many. I think they need a halfway and that's it. It eliminates basically in the truck series the need for green flag stops. I think those kids need that practice because when they get in a cup series and have a green flag stop, they get their ass kicked because they haven't been practicing.

I think the points were a little confusing. I'm all for giving the top five points or the winner of the stage a point, but to do the top 10, my 10-year-old doesn't understand it. and maybe I'm not a good teacher. But overall, you know, hats off, man. Stage racing definitely helped the sport. I still think, you know, the stage racing definitely helped. I just wish some of the – I wish we had longer runs sometimes here and there.

But, I mean, maybe shortened the first a little bit. Maybe shorten the first couple. I know they're kind of short some places already, but maybe shorten them up just a little bit more in the beginning. Yeah, the weird thing to your point is, like, yesterday it's 80 laps. And then the next one is... That's pretty long to me. The next one is, you know, lap 160, which is 80 more laps.

But the weird thing is, like, you take that caution at lap 80, and then we do all the crap that surrounds a caution, which is hitting and interviews. And next thing, you know, second stage is way shorter than the first stage, you know, by 10%. So, like, I think, to your point, make that first stage way shorter, you know. Yeah, maybe they get longer as they go, something like that. Yeah. The 100 lap or the end of the race was perfect yesterday.

It was good. Yeah. Which cup driver surprised you the most this season, Brett? Oh, man, that's a good question. Jason's asking good questions. I mean, you guys are going to think I'm an idiot, but I got to say Martin Truex. What an idiot.

Because I've seen Martin Truex think the sky is falling and think that bad luck is always going to bite him. And this year he goes out and wins seven or eight races, whatever that number was, and win a championship. So, I mean, a first-time champion, he's racing guys in this playoff that were multiple, you know, championship winners in there. I mean, the three guys he was racing yesterday, all had a championship except him. So the guy that surprised me the most is definitely Mark Trex Jr. The guy that surprised me the most is probably Daniel Suarez.

He is, he did kind of, he wrecked a lot in the beginning of the year. And now he's putting together, you know, top tens. He's not always a fast in qualifying. but he kind of works his way up. He's making smart decisions. I've been around him a lot. The race around him a lot the last, you know, probably two or three months, and he's made a lot of smart decisions.

We would run him down. The old Daniels, SARS, would have raced you until your fenders were knocked off. This guy, waves you by now. You know, you're running, you know, 12, 13th. You catch Daniel. He runs you by down. You wave him by. This guy is racing with his head.

He's got speed, and he's impressed me a lot. Yeah. Honorable mentioned to Svarez. As I agree, he's the most improved. I mean, we saw him dominate the Xfinity Series championship last year, and then he showed up at Daytona, and for the first 10 weeks, he looked like a fish out of water. And then all of a sudden, he started getting a little bit better, a little bit better.

So I agree with T.J. Martin's a champion already, too, though. So it doesn't really surprise me that he can still do it in the right cars. What's one change you hope NASCAR makes for 2018? Dembe, I got about three of them, man. You get one. How about two? I'm going to give you two, though.

I think qualifying needs to be two stages. Three is too many. Three is too many. And also the victory deal, you know, if these guys that win six, seven races a year, they don't need to be blowing these things off. I mean, come on. Come on. I think we need shade on the spotter stand.

Yep. Because it's hot as hell up there. I think they need to get their arms. arms around these burnouts for sure i got to support t j on that man t j's just on it today i mean the qualifying deal we go green for the first stage of qualifying which is 20 minutes and for 10 minutes we all sit there which means it needs to be 10 minutes not 20 so i mean i think there's no pressure i mean we need to roll off there and be okay guys let's let's let's sit here oh let's see what this go runs this car runs let's like let's start qualifying and get after it here man

and go. Yeah. So I don't care if they, if you do two rounds, make the little, make the break a 10 or 15 minute break or something. I don't care in the middle, you know. But just there's no urgency. There's like, okay, we're going to roll on down there. We're going to sit. Okay, that's fun.

Let's go with three, five minute sessions. It says what, one change. I thought I said rule change. My one change would be add Myrtle Beach to the schedule. Okay. The off-the-wall topic, if you could add one non-traditional. Thanksgiving food to the Thanksgiving menu, what would it be? Oh, non-traditional Thanksgiving food to the Thanksgiving menu.

I'm going fried rice. Dude, you can't throw China into this deal. Yeah, you can't. It's non-traditional. Man, this is Pilgrim and Indians. It's saying about China. How about them three guys? What about Japanese?

Japanese fried. How about that sweet that Trump sent out yesterday? Which one? So these three kids get, these three kids for the UC LA basketball team get caught shoplifting. Yeah. One's really popular. One, the ball kid, his brother plays for the Lakers, and his dad is a complete buffoon.

Okay. That's true. So these guys get, they're facing TJ up to 10 years in a China prison. Trump apparently helped him get out of it. He got the kids home, and I guess the ball guy was not very nice in giving Trump credit for helping. So Trump said I should have left him over there. What the heck? I swear he tweets just to make people go crazy. I mean, which you do sometimes. I do that too. Yeah. I mean, that's,

it's funny. It's funny. All right. So you're one. I should have left him over. I mean, should have gave him some punishment. Yeah. Shouldn't have been shoplifting first of all. Those kids, that's stupid to go over there. You know, you know, I know going over there that they got their punishments for crimes are severe. Yeah. Communism. Like, there's, severe. Don't mess with them. Like, good Lord. All right. So what's your non-traditional Thanksgiving? Let me tell you who ain't going to China.

Me. This guy. For anything. Josh, Josh could probably see it over the great wall. I'm not leaving North America. It ain't happening. What about Canada? That's North America, Josh.

I thought you were talking about the United States. That's the United States of America. North America is Mexico, USA, Canada. Hawaii, Alaska. Alaska. One non-traditional food. So this is tough. You know how when you make your Thanksgiving plate?

Most of the food can touch. Yeah. Like the stuffing can touch the, like whatever you got. Like most of the food can touch. The turkey can touch the stuffing, mashed potatoes, all that can kind of touch a little bit. So this has to be something that can kind of blend in there.

It's a toss-up for me between deer meat that will cooks, Stone crab That I just had I don't think fish can be it No You were getting on me for fried rice And you just sat there and said stone crab Well stone crab is at least from America

It ain't from China There is nothing fishy I got some fried rice last night from America And then Last but not least I guess Rocky Mountain oysters Yeah seafood can't happen You have fried rice

You like bull balls DJ Can't say that I do I can't say that I don't Have you ever had them? No. Oh. Never have.

Good old Rocky Mountain Oyster. I would think a... They call them calf fries, too. Have you ever had calf fries, Josh? No, I sure haven't. Really? Yeah. When you go to Texas, I'll take you somewhere.

Yeah, man. Do they cook the Dufoni, too? You can't say that on here. We say everything else on here. So I would probably, man, to me, I'd like to throw a little bit of, like, spaghetti in there. So I, yeah. Oh, spaghetti. So I got to say...

That's a town. man, you can't do that. Pizza. Now you want to go to Italy. So we went in this restaurant, and Elliot got food poisoning on this particular night. The next day, Clint had to sub for him. We were driving a Gibbs car back then. But he didn't eat these things.

But we get to this restaurant, and they're like, we're going to have, I order a calf fries. And I'm like, I have never heard of that. So, like, we get them, and I bite into it. And I was like, well, this is different. So I asked us to. server. I was like, hey, what exactly is calf fries? She said, well, it's Rocky Mountain Oysters. I said, I don't know where that is either. She said, it's a bull's testicles. I was like, oh, great.

So after dinner, I proceed to get on the old YouTuber and I'm going to, you know, I'm going to search what this is. And the first thing they tell you is how to prepare them. Oh. And I'm, do they start with the removal? Damn. Like, I'm not real sure I should aid that. How do they prepare them? I had something in Vegas one time called Monkey Cheek or something. Veal cheek. It was Veal cheek. So I'm thinking it's like bottom sirloin steak.

I come home. I was like, man, I had the greatest thing ever out there. I had some Veal cheek. And Claudia's like, you idiot. You ate the inside of a baby cow's mouth. And I'm like, no, I didn't. She starts Googling it. And I will literally eat anything.

I'll taste anything. And I'm like, oh, that's nasty. field cheek I wouldn't probably eat that what's the nastiest thing you ate Calamari that's not nasty that's disgusting

it was so chewy it was terrible dude that's a mocktipus in Miami it was bad it was in Fontana not too far from the racetrack what are you got I'm trying to think

are you a picky eater no not not overly I just I hate crap I hate crab any kind of crap Any kind of crap. Doesn't matter for it. Crab leg.

Cake. I don't like it. Like lobster? I don't mind lobster. I don't mind shrimp, clams. I can do those. Amy Earnhardt taught me how to do a lobster. I'd always had them giving to me ready to eat.

And we're at this lobster bowl. They throw all these lobsters on the table. I was like, man, that looks really good. I don't know how to get in it. Yeah. She's a pro. They used to send those crab legs down from those crab boats from that show. Bill.

Yeah, he'd send a whole bunch down. I saw him a couple times this weekend. I did too. He was Graham Marshall of the Xfinity race. Yeah. All right, we'll move into hashtag SDBC. First up is at Aaron Peach. Our stage breaks necessary for the championship races.

If the four contenders aren't even scored for their breaks, why have them at all for that race? It's a good point if there's no scoring for it. Well, fifth through 30th is still racing for points. So those point breaks are to make it consistent, are still relevant. You know, and I think the stages break up, the monotony. They give us some cautions. You know, when we look at the truck race, the only breaks we had were when the stages ended.

In the Xfinity race, we only had one caution outside of the stages. So it does give a break in the action. And hold on a minute. My buddy Brad Little is calling me. Hey, Brad, I got you on speaker. We're doing our podcast. Hey. Hey, you got my stuff?

I got your stuff, man. You got the package? Sounds shady. I know. That sounds really shady. You get that whole box of Rocky Mountain Oysters? Not really. Hey, where you at?

Dew Funnies. I'm about to get off on 150 here in Moresville, North Carolina. Are you going to Casey's house now, or you already dropped the bus? No, I'm heading there right now. All right. I'll holl at you when I get done. Yeah, 10-4. All right.

See, bro. Bye-bye. He drove all night. Yeah. Casey Kane's bus driver. He probably left last night at 11. I think the race was over at 8, so he probably, or 6.30, whatever. Like, he probably, he literally, it's 12-hour drive.

I thought it was more than that. I think it's like 12 hours because of 7. It's like 12 from getting to Florida to Miami. Like Jacksonville. No, dude. No way, man. You're crazy. It's 7 to Daytona.

It's 6 to Daytona and another 4 or 5 to Miami. It's 7 of Daytona, like, normal. Yeah, if you leave now. He drove all night. So he didn't have to. deal with all. It's definitely five hours from Daytona to Miami-ish. Yeah.

So it's 12 hours. Okay. So he left last night, drove straight through. And then he's going to get here, get his wife and two kids, and drive straight to Pittsburgh for Thanksgiving. Oof. Yeah. Six hours. Six and a half.

To Pittsburgh? Yeah. That's it? Yeah. I thought it's Florida Richmond. Or you don't go that way? No, you go to 80. You go 80 with 79.

I hate 81. There's so many trucks on that road through Virginia. The only, when you go to like Pittsburgh, you get off in Beckley, and there's a road you take that cuts over to 79. Yeah. And it's Route 19. And it is, they are just sitting there waiting for you to speed through there. Oh. It's bad.

Brad, I'm sure Brad would know it. Yeah. Because Brad's probably only 30 minutes from where I'm from where I was born in Pennsylvania. Right. So, yeah. Not too far. Cool. So back to this question.

Man, I'm off for the stages everywhere we go. The only place I want to remove the stages is the Daytona 500. I want to see that race in its entirety from beginning to end with no stage. Let's just go run the best race in the world without the guaranteed breaks. Because we're going to get breaks in that race, I promise you. All right. At Davies Center asked, T.J. Were you hammered on pit road after the race with the rest of the 8?

I wasn't hammered, but I'm telling you, another 20, 30 minutes there. and the opportunity was going to be to stay the night. Yeah, it was fun. It was cool. I had a good time. Good for you, man. You guys, I mean, y'all are celebrating a lot, friendship. Yeah, it was fun.

He did it right with the team and everything. How wild is this retirement party going to get? Do you think it's going to be bad? It's probably going to be fun. I don't know there's probably going to be a lot of people there that I don't want to get to. too wild in front of. Oh, we're getting wild. There's definitely going to be some people there that would frown on some craziness.

Are you Ubering or hoteling it? I haven't thought about it yet. I don't even know. Definitely. It's about the same price. Yeah. I'd probably hotel it because if I get home, I'll just get woke up early. I don't want that.

You got to sleep that one off. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely going to be fine. And Zoom Buck 80S predictions for 2018, most popular driver in the Cup series. Chase Elliott. I mean, that's all I don't even think. We have to just give it to him now. Chase Elliott.

Yeah, I don't know who's bigger. I tell you what, man, Blaney's got a really good following. He does. He's done well. I think Danica, if she'd have stayed here and had some relevance next year, she could have contended with Chase, but I don't know if she'd beat him. The diehard fans that have come in and seen Bill at race that have been. been around a long time, are so attracted to Chase Elliott and the legacy.

You know, everyone was okay with Dell Jr. winning it for the longest time. And he was the most popular driver. This torch is going to be handed off the chase. Yeah. Dell Jr. is the most popular driver ever from a percentage of the fan base standpoint. I've never seen anything like it. I grew up a Dale Earnhardt senior fan. I always thought he was the most popular driver.

But somehow the Bill Elliott guys down in Georgia would rally and he wouldn't. rally. He'd win it. So, man, you've got to think that. And, I mean, the Bill Elliott fan, I would say the youngest of Bill Elliott fan could be right now would be 38 years old. I don't think the most popular driver will ever win the most races ever. You don't think so. No, because when you win that much, like Jimmy, when you win as much as Jimmy, people start to get tired of it.

Yeah. And they start turning against it. To me, to me, the most popular driver, it's kind of cool because. It's the guy that does the most for the sport kind at the time. Like, Billy, you know, he was just always the classy guy. Like always, you know, won races, but always classy, never got into the, never made fans pick a side. Yeah.

When you had, when you liked, like, Dale Senior, it was like him or Rusty. You had to like him, Rusty, or even Terle Blaney or whoever was coming into that time. You had to pick one, and then you had rivalries. Yeah. So you had half here, half here, and then Billy, it just kind of. never had any in my opinion never really had the rivalry with anybody just a nice guy just the guy that would win and i mean obviously he's won a handful of stuff and um champion yeah really yeah a million dollar bill never won never won a 500 no but he i mean didn't need to no so all right and uh hrm underscore 326 what makes an a list driver is it more personality or more performance i think it's both yeah I don't think they're an A-list driver. If you're an A-List driver, you sell it to sponsors and you get done on the racetrack.

I mean, people are, first of all, man, I have huge respect for Matt Kinseth, and I hate to really say this. But when I look at guys like Matt Kinseth and Mark Martin, who are awesome people. And they ended up at Roush. And it's like Roush had so many sponsors at the time that they kind of suppressed the driver's brand and didn't get them a lot of publicity, didn't really allow them to go out. out and be themselves. Like, I think it hurt their personalities and their legacy in the sport. You know, Mark's a great guy. Matt's a great guy.

But Matt was a B-plus driver because you didn't know his personality. And when you got to know his personality, he definitely would be an A-list driver. But if you look at a guy like Eric Jones, he has the potential to be an A-list driver. But if he doesn't have the personality and the fans don't gravitate to him like they did Carl Edwards, he won't ever be that A-list driver. You got to have both. Now, from a talent perspective, it's different. But to say A-list driver, you got to win races and you've got to attract sponsorship

and you're not going to do both if you don't get yourself out there. Yeah, I mean, Kyle's ability, you know, he's the only one that makes us tough because his ability and, you know, record on the track is impeccable. It's one of the best, if not the best, whatever. but as far as like if he ever had to drive something, you know, that was hard, you know, that wasn't as faster to keep, I'm not so sure he'd have, he'd probably have a hard time, you know, getting sponsors. Yeah. But he's just so, he's so talented on the driving side that it makes up for it. He plays the villain role very, very well.

He does. And he, and I didn't agree with that. that until this year. When he finally swung at Lugano, it's like, okay, dude, you manned up. When Richard Childress jumped him in the garage that day, he didn't even swing back. Like, if you're going to be a badass in the car, when you get out of the car, you better be willing to be a badass, too. And that's what we saw with Dale Earnhardt. We didn't wonder if he'd whip your ass. We knew he'd whip your ass. Yeah, it wasn't a question. And it doesn't matter if Kyle can whip anybody's ass or not. The fact that he's willing to try makes that villain

roll go to a new level. So I think, you know, to TJ's point, he's an A-list guy, and he's playing the villain side of it, you know, and we all love villains. You got to have them. Four horsemen. They were villains. Hmm. Okay.

I just doesn't even know who the four horsemen are. I know it's a nasty shot you get when you turn to one. Oh, it's not. It's Rick Flair, Tully Blanchard. You don't remember the four horsemen? They held up the four like this. Arn Anderson? Yeah.

You remember? Yes. Woo. Do you see Rick Flair 30 for 30? Absolutely. Yeah. 10,000. 10,000 women.

Yeah. And he's just like spitballed it. I think he was doing, hey, let me tell you who we saw at the South Beach. We saw that rapper Future. Oh, yeah. He sings the song that I like called Same Damn Time. Doesn't he have a kid? Ish.

Dude, Future was up in there. Yeah, he had. I thought it was Stefan Gilmore to start. start with. I was like, well, he wouldn't be here. Two or three years ago when I was staying in the Miami Beach Edition Future was there. Yeah. Maybe he lives there.

Maybe he does. Maybe he does. You guys got anything you want to rant about besides Ryan Priest? Honestly, for me, man, just thank you to all the listeners because, you know, without one Maine and without Exalta and without obviously DirtyMode radio, we wouldn't be able to do what TJ and I, Josh, Kristen, are able to do. So thank you for listening. thank you for the tweets,

thank you for the reviews. Thank you for the feedback, whether you like it or don't like it. If you don't like it, I don't really care. And if you don't like it, don't listen. That's the man. People text, tweet me about how I spot. I'm like, who put a gun to your head

made you listen to the 14 Team Radio? Like, go away. Put it on another channel. Listen to MRN. I hear they have great voices over there. Yeah, they're like, it's fun to, Every week we go to the track, somebody comes up to you and says, hey, love the podcast. You know, every week we get tweets saying how much entertaining it is and stuff.

So I don't know if we have ironed out permanent plans yet, but I'm pretty sure everything is going to work out okay for next year still. Just don't ask. If you ask for permission, you never get it. It's easier to ask forgiveness. Beg for forgiveness. Yeah. I'm sorry.

Yeah. And I'm sure Mike's got some ideas and stuff. maybe we can show even a little bit better. I think we should do some couple live ones. Yeah, it'd be nice if we'd actually have a meeting. That scores. Scores. To talk about what we can do to make it better.

Hell, y'all tell us what we can do to make it better. Yeah, maybe some suggestions or something. I think we should do like a Facebook live episode every now and then. Yeah, we're going to come back. We'll probably do one more before Christmas, I'd say. I'd say we have no plans, but this probably will not be the last time you hear from us. It's hard to do it around Kristen's gluten allergy and her vacation time. Good Lord, with people getting married and her vacations and she eats all the wrong stuff and gets hives.

She hadn't been stabbed with an EpiPen lately. No, she thought pretty good. That only happened once this year, I think. Yeah. Oh, really? I think it was only once. I think it was only once. Josh.

We're talking about Kristen. I know. Her life choices are terrible. Remember when we first started at the show, we'd be like, where's Kristen? She's a lot of it. Kristen, a couple of times we were sitting here worried about it because she wouldn't answer any of us. Yeah, we were looking up car wrecks on Twitter. We were.

We were looking at the accident. If she's engaged three or four months from now, we know what really happened in New Orleans. Or if she's, or maybe not engaged, but maybe if she's just got a little bump. It's a good thing she's not here. She's just a little bit of a small one. Oh, goodness. Well, like Brett said, big thanks to Exalta and one main. Yeah, thanks for giving us this awesome studio.

It's been awesome to sit in here. Thanks Dale Jr. for the new couch. JJ, I'm really sorry that you lost this weekend, and I'm a two-time back-to-back winning DBC Picks champ. Yeah, you got lucky. They finished fourth and fifth. Yeah, you got lucky. I didn't get lucky.

That's good. Dude, look at my chase results. I gave you a chance to tie me. Look at my chase results, man. You can't finish it. Look at my chase stats. I don't know. Too bad.

It was a 36 race. season. My chase stats are great. You got to buy everybody breakfast. Where are we going? I've already done that. Waffle House. I've already done that numerous times.

Waffle House? I've already done that. You ever been a Waffle House sober? Yeah. It's a weird experience. It is. I don't think I have, actually. It's a weird experience.

I really don't think I ever have. I always get the same thing, though. Yeah. Yeah. That like... Does it taste better sober? No. No.

I don't know Waffle House, man. I love it. I can live there. Yeah. I don't think it would have been there sober, man. I really don't. No, I get a waffle. two eggs over meaty they know they had waffles cheese grits they have good waffles dude i want to go in there

and learn how to cook you know like scatter some mother sell the cover two waffles two eggs over he's shunk and you're like damn and they don't write anything down do you know they don't write anything down you know waffle house uh sells the most steak per restaurant or sells the most it's the large like the highest selling steak restaurant in america wow steak like per pound or whatever it's not very quality steak but i'll tell you what man it's hard to beat a waffle house two in a morning oh yeah i don't think you can't be it if you go to atlanta there's one every 30 seconds on the interstate holy cow driving to that airport hotel there on that one road there is a waffle chiquelais chick flay waffle house wowfouse yeah they have that door house yeah oh you ever been

through that door you see josh going through that thing they can start that now people way too sensitive they think they're making fun of short people oh yeah yeah yeah When you're in the Uber back from Saeeds, there's one on the left side of there. All these sensitive liberals. Okay. All right. All right. They're sensitive.

They know they're sensitive. If that hurt their feelings, I'm proving my point. How do you argue that? If Jason takes up part of the show, my kids are that. Why don't you bring some fried rice or Thanksgiving and see how it goes? Hell yeah. Shrimp fried rice or regular fried rice? Beef fried rice.

I didn't know they made beef fried rice. You put beef and fried rice. I've never heard of beef fried rice. Just regular fried rice. Chicken fried rice? For chicken fried rice and pork fried rice. Beef fried rice. Yeah.

Okay. Let me know how it goes. It makes it with those mashed potatoes or something. All right. This show is an hour and seven minutes long. Happy Thanksgiving. Yes, happy Thanksgiving. Everybody should sit around at Thanksgiving and hold hands and say out loud one thing they're thankful for.

TJ, what are you thankful for? It's not a trick question, dude. God. Right now, at this point in my life, I'm thankful for all the friendships that I've made at Hendrick and racing the last 10 years and they're going to be there forever.

So I'm thankful for that. That's awesome. Happy Thanksgiving, people. Yeah. We out. We out. Holla. You've been listening to Door Bumper Clear,

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