Door Bumper Clear - 9 - Gut Grenades, Cemeteries, and Fence Climbing Race Fans

Episode Date: April 5, 2016

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You're win. Hey, everybody. It's TJ Major, Spotter of the 88 in the Cup series and the 7 in Xfinity series. And coming at you today with me is... Brett Griffin, double-fisted with aquafina water here in Exalted Studios. Thanks to One Main for bringing the... podcast to you guys and we've got our lovely co-host. KB.

Ms. Inked Up for KB. Hey, guys, it's KB. I'm a junior motorsports sponsorship and marketing. I'm going to give you 30 seconds to tell people about yourself without reading. Go. Yep. Go. I won the Junior Motorsports basketball tourney pool.

You're 7 foot three. I'm from Philly. Yeah, you're Pittsburgh. It's her turn. It's her 30 seconds. That's all I got. I don't even do 30 seconds. She's done.

So much. You go back to reading. She's a Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh Panthers fan, but last night is a Villan I'm from Philly. But you root for Pittsburgh. Yeah, but they can't make it past the third, the, what is it? I mean, actually the first.

When the Steelers win the Super Bowl, I don't just celebrate automatically. I love you guys. I love you guys. I hate root against the Steelers. I'm just saying I'm a Bill's fan. Like if you're a Pitt graduate, what college team do you just despise? Villanova. Oh, yeah.

Virginia Tech. Really? Syracuse. Why? You would not have pulled for them. Because we used to be in the Big East. And then we all migrated to the ACC and. Now the ACC has such a finesse in the way they play basketball and the Big East are just, you know, ballers.

So it's tough. In football, we call the ACCC, the A-She-she. Because they're really, really lame. And football is all it matters. We don't call any conference anything because we don't even have a good day. Hey, Syracuse did well. They're coming back. They used to do good.

Yeah, tonight's their big game. Women. It's a big deal. You kind of beat them by 50. By the way, have you watched any women's college basketball? Yes, I watch a lot. They don't run any sort of offense. It is straight up pick up.

game on down the court shoot. And it's like, And those girls can shoot. Yes. Like good. I was actually impressed. I love it. Yeah.

Cool. So what's up with, what's up with Del Jr.'s brain, man? You talk him into this deal? Everybody's talking about it. I guess he just wants to help out. My favorite line was it's a no-brainer. Yeah.

I guess he figures he's hit enough stuff. He might as well help it out. How many concussions has he had? None. Yeah, none. None. That's always the answer. We probably get all the research we need from John West Townley.

Let's OD on data. I mean, bring in the chicken man. He would have got his first concussion test at like four. I think he calls Cole Custer to get a concussion this weekend at Martinsville. Yeah. One of those rugs. Oh, yeah, he hooked him.

Came across the track and hooked him. I don't really want to talk too much about the truck race because it just ended up in a bad way for me the whole time. I hit. I basically drove my truck that I was spotting for into every wreck and every wreck. It was just one of them days where every corner of the truck was beat in And we pulled it out at some point And we didn't start anything Yeah

But we just drove, I mean Just hit everything He wasn't, he didn't the right moves and stuff It just wasn't the right Everything just seemed to go against us and stuff Tyler Reddick was the guy The guy was spotting for and we clobbered They got, we didn't clobber him

But we hit the guy that decided to bat down the track Three Lanes Yeah And you can't miss a moving truck Or a moving vehicle in the race fact When you're wrecking It's really hard to miss drive your guy around or tell him where to go when the other guy is still rolling.

So, before we dive in our deal, too, have you guys listened to Motor Mouths yet? No, I haven't. Okay, I listen to it. And I want to say that as a male, 40-year-old male, it's not for me. But I will say this, it's awesome, it's creative, it's females. Like, if you have a kid, if you're a race fan and you have a kid, make them listen. If you're a race fan and you're in your low 20s, listen. Because they ask these drivers stuff that I've never even.

even thought of. And I know the demographic of the show is it for me, but motor miles is definitely worth a good listen because they're catering to a really fun young audience, which I was at one time. Which you were at one time. Yeah, like a couple years ago, a couple years ago. A couple decades ago. Yeah. But, oh, I want to tell you about the truck deal.

One thing that that got me after the race is I have spotted for the kid that rolled across the track, and he's a good kid and pretty, he's a good little driver. Yeah. And so I went to see what he thought after the race. What's his name? Justin Haley. Justin Haley. Yeah, he's a good little driver.

I did some canaan work with him and he was fun to work with, but I got blocked by him. You got blocked by him? Yeah. On what? Twitter. He blocked you? Yeah. What'd you say?

I didn't even mention his name. I just said we hit the 32 truck and when me and Del Jr. were tweeting about it and you were involved in it. He was a little buddy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. After he wrecked, he's supposed to hit the break. And when you don't hit the break, you continue to move. And when you move in front of 20 oncoming trucks, you make the wreck much bigger than it should be. It's true.

When you're going down the road and there's a deer in the road, do you want him to be moving or standing still? You want him to be standing still so you can miss him, basically. You can drive around him. You don't want him to be going this way, this way. It's like, imagine a squirrel. You know how they run out, come back, run out. It's like that.

Imagine missing that. I like your woodland. A woodland analogy. Woodland? Woodland. Woodland. Yeah. I actually hit a squirrel one time by accident.

It was with my girlfriend about eight years ago, and we were going down the driveway. And there was a squirrel out in the road, and I was like, watch this, because I figured he had run. You did it on purpose? I didn't know he was going to stay there. He, I thought he would run. And he didn't. I felt really bad. Did you pick it up and put it to the side or anything?

I moved it off the driveway. You know, fry it up. You don't pick up a runner. Listen, I know you're from. eastern Pennsylvania, but geez. They didn't mean to throw away your state dinner. So, yeah, I felt really bad. I've been feeding squirrels ever since.

So anyway, what do we got? Kristen, are you taking over? I am. Did you, today's show is brought to you by? I've already said it was brought you by one, man. What's wrong with you? I've been for the last two minutes. I told you I was up late watching the game, and now I'm a foggy.

1115 is not late. I went to bet at 1. I was so amped up because I won the pool. Do you understand? How much did you win? $200. You're that ecstatic over $200? Well, I was really excited because I was playing again.

The only two people still in the pool were me and Tyler. Okay. Oh, I'm glad you'd be Tyler. And he's a huge UNC fan. He is. And I hate UNC. Yeah. Hate is such a strong.

I thought that like, I thought he was going to win. And when that final, final bucket. I was phenomenal. I was just jumping around. I'm not going to lie. I bet if they played ten times, Carolina would win nine of them. Absolutely.

Like, that was, oh, it was a great game. The last two shots were, last three shots. The second, the one page hit from Carolina, oh my, that was like double clutch. He was running through the air.

He was running. He was on his way down and he let go of the ball. I'm like, there's no way that's going to go in. That was amazing. Yeah, it wasn't good. It's been bad. It's been bad. like in general.

I'm a Syracuse fan and a couple of their games, they called a guy out of bounce right at the end of the game against Gonzaga and he wasn't out. His foot was not, yeah, I remember that play. So they go to the replay and they're like, oh yeah, the officials are like,

yeah, they're going to overturn this, no problem. I mean, it was the end of the game. Like Gonzaga scores, they win. Yeah. And Syracuse forced a turnover and got it. And they go to the, they're checking it out and they're like, oh yeah, they come back. We were just checking out the time left.

We can't change the call. I'm like, why do we have a, how come we can change? we can replay the clock, but we can't replay a correct call on the court. That doesn't make any sense to me. But there was a lot of foul. A lot of just tapping. Yeah, it was.

Yeah, I agree. So we're going to go into spot-on, spot-off. We are? We sure are. Okay. First, Kyle Bush dominates and wins both days at Martinsville. Spot-on or spot-off. Spot-off.

There is nothing good about Kyle winning two races on the weekend and ruining it for everybody. Spot on from the sense of he definitely did what you said. He dominated both days. This guy has matured a lot. I'm a little bit. He has matured a lot. I'm a little bit on the fence with this guy because he's been the villain and now it's

like all of a sudden he's wanting to not be the villain anymore. Now he's got his championship. And I don't know how I feel about guys switching from good side to bad side. Two weeks ago, ding dong. I know, but still. He was, his persona, he's trying to revamp it a little bit. He's really, really good. and he has matured a lot, but it's like he does this stuff,

and he, you know, he signs that hat for that woman in the car. That's cool. That is awesome. But then it was very cool. Where was that guy leaving Fontana? You know what I mean? Where was that? They wouldn't talk to the media.

They wouldn't talk to the media and he's mad. Yeah. You know, to me, Kyle, will be a better person when he learns to keep that, not let that come out in him and still sign that person's hat. I can tell you, we've had the worst days ever, and I've watched Dell Jr. sign 50 autographs leaving the racetrack. So. I agree.

You can't be a sore loser when you've made it to the level. He's a champion. You're a champion. Now, you know, sign these kids' hats that come from six, eight, ten hours away. I met fans from Alaska before. Right. So, you know, they come a long way. I know you had a bad day, but, man, they live to watch you race.

Of course. And support you. So, you know, help them out. Martinsville did not take rubber in the turns, weather, tire compound. Both spot on, spot off. Man, spot off for me. You know, I think it's a couple things. I've heard from some really good sources.

We may have some inside info right here on Doorbumper Clear that the good year has changed the way they're mixing these compounds. So it may be a combination of that and the cooler temperatures. Cooler temperatures definitely make it harder to lay rubber. But at the end of the day, it sucks that the track wasn't taking rubber for the teams. Yeah, I always spot off as well. I like when it lays a little bit of rubber because the guys can roll a half a car length higher and they can kind of straddle and get a good run off, and it kind of makes for different,

it doesn't sound right at Martin's, but there's different grooves of racing on such a short race track. But you know what? And the more rubber it lays, the more of the track changes. Yeah, it does. I mean, it didn't change a whole lot yesterday, but I didn't know some guys were pretty far off in the beginning. Like that 22 car felt like a rock.

Like, he was bad, the first run. Yeah. You know, but I do like when a track does take down a little bit of rubber. The 24 car was aggressive and blocked a ton for a rookie at Martinsville, is spot on or spot off? You know, I actually, I think that is spot on because I did watch him block pretty aggressively a few times when I didn't think he needed to. And that's not a thing to do when you're a rookie there. There's a time for it, but when there's only one car behind you, and he's clearly probably faster.

And I know you're fighting. You know, you are racing here, but he has a right to race, but there's some, you know, he's going to have to try it extra hard the next few weeks to earn the respect back from these. guys to really, you know, get back on their good page, which he probably will. He'll probably race fine. But, you know, I understand he's just trying to keep his track position, too. His decision to do all that blocking was 100% spot off. You know, he's a guy. If this is any other rookie to ever come into the sport, they're turned head on into the wall and turn three. I'm really surprised none of the veterans didn't fix that problem because he was blocking single cars. What I mean by that is on a restart, you have to be a great.

They're lined up behind you. As the race goes on, if only one car is catching you, when he catches you, you let him go. You race smart. He race Casey Kane like a dog for 30, 40 laps. Not only is it a single car that called him, it's his teammate. So really surprised somebody didn't turn chase, head on it to the wall. Derek White, the part-time Xfinity driver, was arrested for tobacco smuggling from North Carolina to Canada. Spot on, spot off.

Who is Derek White? I don't really know. Yeah, I don't know who Derek White is. I know the name a little bit, but I don't know the extent of the tobacco smuggling. I didn't even. I do know that I probably wouldn't. What was it? One of the top three ringleaders.

It's the biggest tobacco bust ever. There's a ton of cocaine. There's a ton of marijuana. At the end of the day, this is NASCAR media, trying to take a driver none of us have ever heard of and bring him relevant to the brand of NASCAR. Spot off. Pick something else to report. My God.

So is he done racing now that he's probably done? He is suspended. And he was done before. started. Have you ever heard of Derek White? Do you remember? No, but this is probably where the money comes from to race. You think? He was in one of those random dodges in the Xfinity series. He's been present, but he's not been irrelevant. Sorry, Canadians, if you're not getting your cigarettes and stuff. The famous Martinsville hot dogs, spot on or spot off, are they really good or just a tradition?

Did you guys have one? Spot on, they're $2 and no, I did not eat one. You go, and this week when we go to the racetrack, there'll be $9. So, I mean, congrats to Martinsville for keeping it where people can afford it and bring their kids whether you like hot dogs or not. It's the world's most famous wiener. It is.

Period. So definitely spot on. I did not have any. I didn't either. But again, to T.J.'s point, very affordable product. I mean, everybody you see walking around has four, five, six, 16 hot dogs.

They got a bag of hot dogs. Any other track, you're like, can I take out a loan and buy a hot dog? Yeah. Yeah. So, man, spot on to Martinsville for making it affordable. I call them a gut grenade, so no. They wreck your stomach?

Yeah, I don't eat them. Well, they're really pink. Yeah, that's not. That's odd. Hot dogs are kind of gross. Well, if you even get to that part of it, because they put slaw, chili, mustard, yeah, all that stuff on there. onions and stuff. I've got to ask T.J. a question before we dive in in our next segment.

This is an analogy or an opinion that I formed. Not hot dogs? It's an opinion I formed on the way back from Martinsville. You know, I'm driving home, and I'm bored, and I'm thinking, and I'm like, man, Hendrick Motorsports missed Jeff Gordon being in their stable this weekend. When you look at where they all normally qualify and where they all normally practice and where they all normally race, they're all in the top 10. Three of the four are always in the top five, and we never saw that this weekend.

So was Hendrick Motorsports missing Jeff Gordon's expertise in the seat, And were they missing his notes and his ability to provide data to the other teams to make all the teams better? Because Jimmy never let a lot of laps, never ran a lot of top five. You guys, I know you had trouble early, but still, you weren't as good as you normally are there. Casey qualified well ran terrible. Chase was a rookie, hard to evaluate there. But did you guys miss him that much this weekend? I think you always miss Jeff Gordon when you go to places like Martinsville and stuff.

But I don't, I just feel like we were off a little bit. Not off, but I feel like just things went, didn't go our way this weekend. And Jimmy was a third to sixth place car most of the day. He was just off a tiny bit. We could have been right there, but we obviously got spun in the beginning, and it took us 320 laps to get our lap back because the cautions would, the runs would go just long enough where they would catch the guy that got to Lucky Dog and put him a lap down again, then the caution would come out.

So it took us a long time to get our lap back. But I don't feel like we had to speed and stuff to be up in the top five, because we got up to six and we were running them guys down. We probably could have finished fourth or fifth or six somewhere in there, but we just couldn't get the right breaks to get up there. And, you know, I think we could have put the 48 and the 88 in the top five. But like you said, you're missing Jeff for sure. He's normally always a factor.

Yeah. It's Jeff Gordon, Jimmy Johnson, Denny Hamlin. Those guys are going to run top three. Yeah. Obviously, Denny wreck. Yeah, I feel like our 88's in there. I feel like we can run good there. We always hurt ourselves.

That's one place where you need to qualify better because you're so close and you're at a mile and a half and two mile tracks, you can get away from guys a little bit more. If we go back there in the fall and Hendrik is not as dominant as they've been, my theory will be proven right or they'll be really fast and it'll be proven wrong. I think you'll be proven wrong. So we're heading into the fast lane segment and we are. The quick overview is I'm going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate.

Alternating who responds first. will get 30 seconds to voice their opinion, and then whoever responded first will get a 30-second rebuttal. Rebuttal. Four of the topics will be racing, two will be not. The Bush brothers are now tied with the Flock Brothers on total wins, which is 62. The only brothers that are ahead of them are the Wall Trips at 88 and the Allisons at 94. Do you think by the end of their careers,

the Bush brothers will overtake the Wall Trips and or the Alisons? T.J. What the flock, man. Real race fans like Bush. Yeah. I mean, Kyle, I don't see Kyle and Kurt slowing down anytime soon. They're both really fast and they're both going to have a handful of more wins. So I think they will, I don't know if they'll get to 88, though.

I don't think so. I have to believe that the Allison brothers, you know, certainly have a lot more positive. Good timing on the thing. We had a technical difficulty. But you think. I mean, I don't know that the legacy of the Bush brothers ever exceeds. the legacy and the heritage of the Allison's. The Allison's are a great family brand within the sport who did a lot of great things

and even make guys like Davy Allison available after the fact. So I'm a huge believer in the Allison's are the best of this proposed double duo. Yeah, and plus it's a different era too. You can't really compare this era to that era. I think competition is different. I think it's just it's so hard to compare now to how many years ago was that? 30. 20, 30.

Yeah, I mean, you can't compare. pair now, what's happening now to 30 years ago. They're just way more competition now. So I don't, I don't, the aalises are probably always keep it. Fans have been wondering why the cars are swerving so much after qualifying sessions. What's the rationale behind this maneuver and what does it do to the car? What are we engineers now? I'm just kidding. The reality is, you know, when you see guys go out and qualify, Austin Dillon did it, what he said on the poll. Somebody else a week before did it when they set on the poll.

I think it was Kurt Busch or somebody. Anyway, what they're trying to do, do is they're trying to reset their track bar, their housing, their truck arms so that they can get through post-race tech once their qualifying lap has been completed. Clearly, they've made it through tech to go out on the racetrack. They've made their car very fast, and now they've got to get it back within the parameters of tech before they roll back through. Yeah, there's always, people are little tricks going on. There's always, you know, everyone's always up to something, basically. and very rarely do you have, you know, the top guys, we're always trying, everyone's trying. And like Brett says, there's things that people are doing and I don't want to give it away.

Please do for me. I'm not giving it away, but, you know, people are trying things. So they're just cleaning the hell out of their tires. First of all, they're passing pre-race, pre-qualifying tech. They're passing post-qualified tech. So if they're doing that, they're legal, right? The reality is they're trying to create more skew in their car, which is when you see a car going down the straightaway.

It's kind of cocked sideways. That creates more side force, down force, helps the car turn better. These teams are achieving that. It's why they're qualified on the pole. Text me whatever they're doing after, T.J. Thanks. Appreciate it. Rumors are circulating that Kimmy, the current Ferrari F1 driver,

may be looking to make the switch to NASCAR again. In the past, he raced in the World Rally Championship and NASCAR Camping World Truck Series and the Xfinity series. Is having drivers from different racing series? Attempt careers in NASCAR good for our sport or not, TJ? I don't, I'd just like to hang out with him on his boat or something. I don't know if he's ready. I've watched a truck race that he did, and he just didn't look comfortable.

It's a whole different world compared to what he's used to. He's not used to being side-by-side with cars. When he's side-by-side with somebody, it's for a second and a half, if that, and then they're done. So this is a whole different thing with air and just a whole different, that whole different type of racing but i mean i'd love to see him come and try it from a marketing standpoint it's great to see these drivers come in you look at Travis pastrana you look at rickie carmichael you look at danica patrick while montoya tony stewart we could go on and on and on on and on only one has been successful tony stewartone one a lot of races one multiple championships

nobody else has come in from outside of our world and done anything that is remotely even worthy of being in this conversation i kind of i mean i'll give a little bit to Juan. Juan's been fairly, he's done okay. He figured it out a little bit, and he went and ran for him with the one and was okay there, too. He won eight races there. He didn't win anything here, won one race. Yeah, but I mean, he was competitive at times.

He wasn't out, he didn't look out of place. He didn't look like Juan Montoya, though. No. As he did in the other series. No, but he was competitive here, and I think, you know, it's just so hard to do. It's so competitive, man, it's so hard. It's hard. I'll say the guys that come from open-wheel dirt can really race in this car.

Yeah. I agree with that. This is the Formula One stuff. I don't think there's much relevance to NASCAR. The F1 IndyCar translation of NASCAR is really, really difficult. Even IndyCar to Formula One is quite a bit different. So we've had a lot of IndyCar drivers go over there and try and some be okay, you know, but others, man, it's tough. Juan did well.

Yeah, Juan did awesome. He did fine here, but, I mean, is he relevant to being great? We knew. No, we knew when we went to the road. course is that he was going to be a factor. Yeah. And I think that's pretty cool. I think it's cool to have separation in guys like that that you come in.

You know one and you know AJ is going to be faster than places. That's kind of cool to do. And it's cool they can take that road racing background from a different car even and put it into our cars. But, you know, it's the mile and a half and the rest of the schedule is tough on them. We still race 34 ovals. Yeah. Yep. Brett, do you have a racing bucket list?

And if so, what is on it? Man, I do. And it's a pretty big one. I've managed to hit all of them with the exception of probably the Knoxville Nationals, the Indy 500. That's really the only two I've got left. Now, outside of NASCAR, my racing bucket list is a Kentucky Derby because Chicks and dresses with pretty hats and me dressed up with a tie. That sounds fun. My racing bucket list would probably be to maybe still win an indie.

In the Cup series, I would still like to win there just to go. go through all the after, all that stuff after or with the bricks and all that. And just the whole scene after it, just the trophy, the presentation and stuff, that'd be pretty cool to go and do. But, you know, other than that, you want to win the Daytona 500, and I've got, luckily, I've got the cross-ad off. So, I don't know, any 500 would be cool one time. It'd probably be different and hard to do, but I'd be up for the challenge.

Yeah, from a fan's perspective, you know, you've got to go to Daytona, you got to go to Bristol, you got to go to Martinsville, you need to camp on the Talladega-Anfield, you need to hit the chili bowl. There's a lot of more cool racing experiences that I haven't personally done, and I want to experience those before I kick it. Chili Bowl is fun, man. You did that now, so. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a good one. The first off-the-wall topic, T.J., Batman versus Superman, top the box office this past week. Would you consider yourself more of a Batman fan or a Superman fan? And if neither, who's your superhero of choice? Wonder Woman. Yeah. Man, I used to run around a He-Man underwear.

Does that count? I think everyone. You look like he man today. I do, man. I did. Yeah, look at these guns. My superhero choice is not Superman. Pretty much because I watched Earl wear that cape after the race in Fontana

that ruined every Superman image I could ever want to be involved in. I don't know. I don't know who my superhero of choice would be. Iron man? No. Spider-Man? The Hulk? Nope.

Flash. Thor. Flats. Does Flash Gordon? Flash. For me, it's Superman, because when I was little, I grew up beside a cemetery. Weird. No, they're the quietest neighbors ever.

They're awesome. We actually would, I'll get into that another time. But the question is to stay on point, I used to have this dream when I was little that I was Superman, and I remember I always flying home over the cemetery, you know, like for my grand entry back into the house. So I've dreamed about being Superman my whole life. Why are you looking at me like that? creepy.

Yeah, this is a creepy story, man. We and my buddies used to go out in the cemetery at night. I can't. I do what? We would sneak down to the road, and when cars would come by, we'd throw eggs out of them. Hot behind a tombstones. I think like ghosts are throwing eggs with them. Hey, this is Pageland.

There's not a lot to do, right? They'd have to wait three hours for a car. If you've ever driven from Pageland, South Carolina to Chesterfield, and you've been hit with an egg, it was a threat. Oh, man. Yeah, I don't know. I bet that's illegal now. Was it illegal then?

No way. It was? Is it illegal? We're about to just egg someone's house? I don't know if it's illegal. It's called vandalism. Yeah, it's called get out and get out and beat the kids' ass what it's called. We put the pressure watch it after we did it.

It's not that we were trying to vandalize me. Let me ask you this. So did anybody ever slam on their brakes? Hell yeah, we took off running. Because guess what? And the reason we did, they wouldn't chase us back through the cemetery. They were scared. I lived in the cemetery.

I wasn't scared. Oh, that's crazy. Okay. I just, now I'm being indicted. on charges of vandalism, thanks to Josh. Yeah, let's go to the next one. The second off-the-wall topic, Brett, the 32nd annual WrestleMania happened this past Sunday.

It was the largest crowd ever for the WWE at AT&T Stadium, which is about 100,000. What was the attendance? Oh, really? How much were hot dogs? Who was your favorite wrestler growing up, and do you have one now? My favorite wrestler was Rick Flair,

from Charlotte, North Carolina, the Nature Boy. Woo! I might be the oldest ride in the park, but I still got the longest. line. I never got in wrestling that much. I played the video games a little bit just because you could get a buddy to come over and you could do the Royal Rumble and throw each other out of the rings and stuff.

Other than that, I did watch a little bit. Who's the guy that used to, like, kiss his, like... The Rock? No, he's older. My dad liked him. I liked the Rock, I guess, a little bit. But I liked the tag team guys called the Bushwhackers. Remember them?

Those are... Okay, I shouldn't say that. So in the South and the 80s, there were three R's in life. You know what they are? Racing, rassling, and rodeo. Oh, no,

rasseling? If you didn't like wrestling, you suck. So you went to see, you know, the road warriors and dusty roads and Wahu McDaniel.

T.J., I'm sorry, you had to grow up in the North, man. The 80s were fun down here. Yeah, it's all right. North was still pretty fun.

We just threw a lot of snowballs and stuff. South will rise again. We did some cow tipping. Because there's nothing to do. So I got a question. Gettysburg is like basically a pageling. Do you consider yourself

north or south? North. Well, I mean, it's kind of, you're right on that West Virginia type. I mean, I'm talking like where you're going to. The Mason Dixon line. Yeah, so Hanover, PA is right above the Mason Dixon line. We were five miles from the Maryland border. I'm not even sure I consider Pennsylvania the north.

Do you? Yeah. It's about the Yankees. Yeah. Mason-Miseline is right around Washington. So any, anything north of there? I think Washington and Pennsylvania from up is probably north. And once you get to the Virginia's, man, you're kind of getting south.

I'm northern. Yeah, that's right. The line runs. Right above Virginia. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll claim the North. It's fine.

So we're going to get into the Ask DBC questions, guys, and at the end, because we didn't do it in the last episode. I saw some good questions on Twitter this week. I saw a lot of good questions. You guys get to pick your favorite out of these five, and I will send them in Elliott Sadler-autographed hat. Guess what we're going to do this week? We're going to pick two. Two. Because last week we didn't.

Okay. Last week they got three. Ten four. Let's do it. Oh, man. Poor. Right, we'll start. You can start with this one.

If you could spot for any retired NASCAR driver, who would it be? This is the best question ever. This is from at KJ. Fly. I grew up a Pearson fan, then I was a Neil Bonnet fan, then I was a Dale Earnhardt fan. So, man, so many, so many awesome drivers to pick for it, but I would have to go with Dale Earnhardt. And I'm sure he wouldn't like the way I spot

and he'd tell me to shut the up. But at the end of the day, man, to be on the radio with Big E, it would be really cool. Yeah, that, I mean, since you picked Tim, I'll go the opposite. I'll take Buckshot Jones. Yours out early. You get full-time paid for a part-time. That's what I'm saying, man.

You dang, right? Work smarter, not harder. See you. I'm out, lap two. I can't even pronounce it. Do you know who Buckshot Jones is? I don't. That's what I thought.

Do you? The double zero. Yeah, buckshot. Double-zero. Yeah, that old buckshot. This is like 98. He got a nickname Buckshot because the grandma said he was tough as buckshot. Yeah, this is like 98-99-ish.

Yeah. He wrecked a lot. Yeah. He's a little guy, dude. Oh, this isn't like super old. Oh, this isn't like super old. I don't know if you hunt or know what buckshot. Buckshot, buckshot's double alt, double zero.

Like shotgun barrels? Yeah. Yeah. Chris, like, yeah. I don't know if it's like, but it's more like. You know how a hunter shakes hands? Ah. We'll have to, let the periscope back later.

At Hanbury Jr., T. You're going to start. What was going through your mind when that fan climb the fence at Richmond. Please don't let him fall or go over the other edge. Oh my gosh. That would have been very, very bad. It had that guy went over or fell or something,

and that could have been catastrophic for the sport, man. We went under yellow. I didn't know why. Yeah. I'm the same thing. We ultimately figure out there's a guy sitting on the fence. And I'm like, holy cow, this guy's an idiot. But that's funny, how many beers did he had?

So two years later, we're under rain delay. They call our race. I leave Richmond, Virginia. We drive to our hotel. I walk in with my clown suit on, you know, race team colors. And the girl's like, oh, my God, you work in racing? I'm like, yeah, that's why I'm wearing this. Affrodisi actor?

She goes, you may know who my dad is. And I'm thinking, there's 5,000 people in the sport. I probably don't know your dad. She said, my dad climbed the fence at Richmond and got arrested. And I'm like, no way. And her name was, I can't. I'm not going to say her name, get her in trouble. I go behind the front desk, get the hand to the end.

I'm taking pictures with her. I sent it out on Twitter. Y'all are not going to believe who I just met. This girl replies, oh, my God, you've just ruined my life. Yeah, she was all upset. I'm like, hey, tell your dad, don't climb the fence. He's like a legend in our deal. Yeah, I mean, he's the only guy's ever climbed a fence during the race and sat on it.

A hell of a seat. So he's banned. He has a picture of him sitting on top of the fence in his living room, which is awesome. That is like Redneck 101. He is banned for life from Richmond. So I told her, I was like, I'll get him garage passes to Martinsville. Tell him, come hang out what's there. So they track band him, NASCAR.

Because Clint's a redneck. Clint would love to meet this dude, you know? Take some balls. If you've seen this on TV, you don't do it at home, though. I mean, what an idiot. But it still was awesome. I don't even like climbing trees, man. They do climb on the top of the fence and sat down.

Yeah. More power to him. I just loved Hoots coming over the radio. Yeah. Hutz's famous line. Oh, God. Yeah. Fing climbing the fence.

It's, uh. Put it out. man, it's crazy. I mean, you know, but dude's up there with his, hey, hold my beer. I'm going to climb his fence. You know, it would have been awesome if he actually took his beer with him. Yeah. Sat down.

He needed a fanny pack. He went to, like, jail. I'm sure. Like real jail or like, no, no, like, real jail. Richmond jail. Wonder what they can get him with. Richmond jail. Have you been a Richmond?

I promise you that would be a real jail. Richmond's a rough town. I got pulled over on 95 a couple months ago and actually. For what? Elliot's lawyer. Clint. Thank Clary. Great, he got me off.

Scott Free. That was... The ticket was reduced is what I meant. I love the story. Just one show without it. I asked her if she was speeding and she was like, no, I was going over the speed limit, but I wasn't speeding. How fast were you going? 74 and a 65.

74 and a 65. At speed racer 13, right? Which track is harder to spot at Daytona or Martinsville? It is hot here, which is harder, Daytona and Martinsville. Definitely, Daytona. It requires a lot more focus and requires a lot more information, and these guys are inches apart. However, Martinsville is one of my top four places to spot, so great question.

T.J, pick a winner. I'll pick a winner. Oh, man. We're not done yet. Yeah. We're not? No, we're on the third question. You can't count.

You got me all flustered. I'll take Daytona on Talladega as well. Well, there's a different animal. Martinsville, yeah, they can get back to you and hit you a little bit and rough you up, but it's not the 40-car pile-up that you can cause at Daytona and Talladega. At Don Matthews 82, TJ, would NASCAR let Dale Jr. modify one of his Xfinity cars and take it to Eldora? I don't know.

Maybe. I don't know. Probably let him do whatever he wants, probably. I don't know. We call it the company car. Yeah. Company car. The spotters call it.

TJ, how's a company car running this weekend? It's all in good fun. At Kelly 6116. Thoughts on single file restarts at Martinsville. Stuck on the outside really hurts. Single file restarts at Martinsville would be terrible. Kelly, who are you? Show yourself.

Do you realize that if we went green, the guy in last is five laps away from getting passed? The two best rule changes we've had since I've been here is number one double file restarts and number two, the dress coat, allowing chicks to wear shorts in the garage. So yeah, leave it double file TJ who you texting

We're trying to a show here Well that debt lawyer they got her Shut up TJ do you have anything to add to this We need a ceiling fan in here It's hot Since TJ's too busy to join the podcast now Snatch chat man

Geez Anyway He's right Single File resource would suck Oh my gosh, it wouldn't be any fun at all. We even got shuffled back from the outside land. I'd still want double-file restarts. You can't do it.

You got to have double-file restarts. It's exciting. Me and Dale Jr. were talking on Twitter about this whole overtime thing. And when you take something like single-file restarts, which suck, they're not entertaining. And you make them double-file restarts super entertaining. You can't digress the product. And that's kind of what we've done with these green-white-checker deal. Is it, okay, green-white checker?

three times or all of a sudden it's old, we only have to run three quarters of a lap. Like when you take back some of the product fans are going to get mad. So leave it alone. Leave it alone. You guys got anything that you're super perturbed about today that you ran about? What about your buddy, man? Hey, did Clint get angry at Martinsville? I heard he got a little lippy with you.

With me? Or somebody. He didn't get mad at me. I thought he got a little frustrated at some point. He told me to get him down. I told him I couldn't hold. So, I mean, other than that, that was not even me. That's a normal exchange for us.

Is that a normal thing to say? I don't know. It sounds weird. What? Hole? It means I can't press a magic button and make a hole automatically appear so Clint can get into the left lane going 130 miles an hour. That's what it means, Kristen. I saw Clint.

Thanks for that education. Somebody shot him up the track early. Who was it? Oh, 43. Oh, he got us too. 43. Dude, he drives into the corner like there's nobody out there and just comes on up. That 43 balls wrecked us.

I'm done. Like, I ride wrecking back. I'm done. I would do. He just drives like he doesn't care. And I might even, David Reagan hit the curb and hit us in the left for. That's racing. That's Orangeville.

Yeah, man. There's no way, David. And he had a fast, decent car. The 23 was good. I agree. So, you know, props to them guys for, you know, hanging in there. Yeah. But he, that's just racing there.

But there's, when you drive it in the corner, it's just too deep and wash up the racetrack and hit a guy. That's, you have a brake pedal. Yeah. And you know you can hit it earlier. That's your fault. Yeah. Yeah.

So, and he just drives like he doesn't care. Yeah. So maybe that's a little bit of a rant. So I'm trying to think of something else. My rant is this. I watched the Country Music Awards Monday night, Sunday night, whenever they were. Of course you did.

Rating. Tim McGraw was down. Ratings. Tim McGrawls there. He sang a great song about Be Humble and Kind. I love that song. Ratings were down 40%. Somebody email them and tell them why.

Cowboys don't wear skinny jeans. They don't wear Shmedium T-Shom. shirts. They don't wear their hats backwards. They don't have lines shaved in their head. Like, the only two cool parts of this show that I watched was Stapleton, who's a heck of a singer, and Dolly Parton. Like, the rest of it was- Yeah, but she sang with Katie Perry. The rest of it was R&B and lame. I get the crossover. Hey, Dolly's body was banging. And she's like 70. I mean, it's been banging since she had a better ass. She had, like, she's, her body's banging. She is hot. And she's old. Top heavy. Old.

You know, her husband hates the spotlight, so he never comes out. He never joins her at award shows or events or anything. They've been married for like 50 years. How's your cleanse going? Are you done with your cleanse? Yeah, he hasn't run to the bathroom. Yeah. You didn't have to hold.

If I could, I would at Martinsville. Geez, man. Texas predictions, boys. How about we talk about Martinsville predictions? I went two for two. We don't count the second ones, man. Oh, my God. I mean, if we're going to count them, I'm just going to take a second year guy as well.

You got the first pick on both of them. You ruined this part of the show. No, no, no, no. Are we taking rookies or experienced guys? The final four, who got that right? UNC, who did you have? Oh, I had Kansas. Yeah, they made it.

They made it. Anyway, Texas, awesome racetrack. Yeah, can't wait for it. One of the best mile and a halfs will be at all year. Different lanes. Here's a cool part about Texas. You're in the corner of a really long time. Like when you look at a racetrack, I don't know the distance of the corners of Texas,

but they look a lot further than the typical mile and a half, which means these guys should be off the gas on the brake, free roll and back on the gas more with this particular package we've been running. If Goodyear brings a good tire, this will be a Fontana-style phenomenal race. Yeah, it's got the same characteristics, different lanes. Guys can run the middle, they can run the bottom. You can get big runs on the top. If you get it rolling right, it should be good.

I think it's going to be fun. How do your guys typically run there? We normally run pretty good unless we hit the grass in the front stretch, then we don't run very good when we do that. I watched the green-white checker from my house when we do that. At least inside, Elliot, he's won there in the Cup Series. He does really well in a one-man car. Clint, we've still got some growing pains with H. Scott.

The first half of Martinsville, we were struggling. The second half, we were really fast. So hopefully we unload with a package of because Clint's good there. It's just a matter of getting them comfortable. But T.J. gets to pick first year on who he thinks. Hey, did you make many adjustments during the race? Yeah, tons. Really?

Yes. Tighter? Dude, everything. Luce in, tight middle, loose off, tight middle, Lucian, everything. So, I will, I mean, it's really hard to go against Jimmy Johnson, at Texas. It is.

It's really hard. You got first pick. The dude finds a way to win there every time. Yeah. I'm going to go with, for me, it's either Kevin Harvick or Macs. Kenseth and I'm going to go with Matt Kenseth because he has a spotter back. You know, it's his second week back. He looked comfortable.

Crazy's with us. And he looked comfortable on the track. Not that he didn't before, but it just looked. It was a good feel to it. It's the information flow. Spotters are giving drivers information and he was back getting the information he's used to getting. He certainly looked like Matt Kenseth used to look.

Yeah, and it's good to have crazy back to you. You can tell that guy was happy to be back at the track and see all of us. I know he missed us greatly. so it's good to see him back. And what else you want to rant about? Man, I don't want to run by anything. I'm sitting here looking at the Dale Jr. Foundation Mission Statement.

And I look at Del Jr. with his kid with a Gamecock hat on. I'm actually going to speak at a sports marketing class this afternoon down in Columbia. And, man, it's cool to see the Gamecox represented in Junior Nation, even though there's orange in your logo. Yeah, I don't think that was. Yeah, are you excited about that? You're a guest lecturer. So I've been the last three, four years.

I want to be called like an honorary professor. Maybe they'll give me an honorary doctorate or something. Yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, that's what you're getting. Yeah. Hey, that's where hooty's from. Do you know hooty and the bluefish went there? Yeah, he's a huge USC fan.

Yeah. Cover your hootie. Do you prepare for it? Do you have like a PowerPoint presentation or what do you do? You just stand up there and talk? I do have a PowerPoint presentation. Who made it for you? I would love to see that.

I did not. Aaron made it for it. Oh, yeah. So you're going to have a pointer? No, that's a pointer. Man, these are kids that, like, it'll be 30 kids in this class with T-shirts and wife beaters on. What are you going to say to them?

So I'm talking about sponsorship. So I'm explaining to them sponsorship in NASCAR, the different levels for a different series and how you leverage and activate, get return on your investment. You should come. You'd learn a thing or two. I'm pretty good. Just send me the PowerPoint presentation.

I'll watch it. I'll send you to Cliff Notes. Send me the notes, man. Yeah. Yeah. We need TJ to pick a winner for SDBC. Two winners. Oh, yeah, we got to pick two.

T.J. pick first. Well, there's only five. Yeah, it's good odds. 40% chance you're going to win right here, guys. Yeah. I'll go with the who would you spot for. Yeah, that's an awesome one. What was that guy's name?

Kylie. K.J. Fly. That's pretty cool. I was going to clean my room, but I got flies. KJ. Fly is a good one. And the other one is about the Outer of the Richmond question. Yeah, the Hornberry Jr. Honberry.

Dude, you can't Barry Jr.? What kind of name is that? Hanberry. Kristen, send those guys an autographed Elliot Sadler one main hat. I'm on it. Are you on it? I'm on it. You promise?

Promise. When will they get it? Like next year? Ground shipping UPS. Oh, man. Anything else we need to cover Josh? Any new tattoos, lower backs? No tramp stamp butterflies.

What did y'all do over the weekend? Where'd you go? I just went out here. It's great. I went home to PA. Oh, yeah. Be PA. Do a little biking with your dad.

I did. I love my dad. You about dad. Yeah. I keep crashing my bike. Kristen sent out pictures on Twitter. You don't have any road rash. She about died.

My legs are. I mean, I have that. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my daughter has worse. That's why my legs are covered. It's just. bruises everywhere. I went to Myrtle Beach, man.

That's what people do. Where do you think people who live in Myrtle Beach? Where can they vacation, man? They don't go anywhere. They just stay there. Have you seen them? They don't let them leave. We don't want them to go anywhere, man.

I love Myrtle Beach. It's kind of like going through West Virginia, man. Those people, when you go up 19 through Beckley and all that, you don't want them to go anywhere. I'm going to find me a cemetery down there and go live the side of it. There might be some real ghosts there. You know what we should do one time. I actually, have you ever looked up the,

the most haunted places in the U.S., basically. There's one in New York. I was obsessed with haunted, like, houses. Well, then you probably know about the one. It was literally five minutes from where I grew up, and it was actually really creepy. A house? No, it was an asylum.

The Rolling Hills Asylum or something. Crazy. Yeah. Have you gone inside it? I've been inside it because they turned into a flea market, and you'd go in there, and some of the hallways were creepy, man. I mean, Brad would probably be great with it

because he grew up in a cemetery. I'm not scared of that stuff. And I, we're egging cars with our buddies. What if you were locked in a basement of like this place is supposedly haunted? And all you have is a flashlight. McLeb Ultra. Yeah, sure. Sleeping bag flashlight and some Mick Ultra.

Sick Ultras, I'm good. I wouldn't want to do it. I'll tell you that. Thank you. Really? Like you literally would be scared? We used to, so I'm from Gettysburg, right? We'd always go on the haunted, like all the different haunted places and it would freak me out.

Oh, sure. Nothing ever happened, though. No, that stuff's real. So Josh just stayed here? Yeah. Didn't do anything. Didn't get crazy. The world's most interesting producer.

Yeah. Pretty much. No, it didn't go out? Had some beers, yeah. Where'd you go out? I went to the rudder. I went to Cornelius Draft House. Went to a few other places.

No crazy stories? No crazy stories. Didn't see anything good? So two friends of ours named Stephanie and Jonathan live near the rudder, and I ran into them in Martinsville, and they said the rudder was bumping on Saturday night. Were you in the middle of that? Rudder was pretty good Saturday night. Yeah.

Bumping? Bumpin. Do you think the rudder will ever get old around here? Yes, I used to frequent that place back. I know, but then we all get older. You got older and no one goes there. But somebody's in their 20s. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's still, I think it's still happening. We've got the lamest lake ever. Like, there's only two places to go. The rudder. The rudder. Vinnie's is close. KB. That's how old I'm getting.

Like, that's the two. Vinnie's used to be so much fun. I love the lake. Back like 2008. And I love it like in a motel. Like, 2004, it was fine. But everybody there has purple hair. Like, I mean, it's the, it's the geriatric crowd.

They're shagging. How often you get haircuts? Once every two weeks. I'm just curious. I cut it myself. You like it? Floby. Do you ever call it?

You got a floby? I actually walked in this morning. I'm like, is T. T.J. Combe's hair before. Yeah, with my fingers. Yeah, that's what I do. With my fingers. It looks good.

Yeah. I like your vintage Bill Elliott T-shirt you got on today. Why don't you pick him for the guy you'd spot for over a buckshot? I mean, Buckshot. I mean, Bill won a lot. He just win everything. This is the most tangential podcast we've done. You'd have to stay for the whole race.

Yeah. What word did you just use? Yeah, why do you have to use these big words? Tangential. Tangental. That's three syllables. That's not allowed. I would have had to Google that.

Tangential. Yeah. Use that in your class. Nate Ryan would like that word. Yeah. He listens to our USA today, guys. No, he's NBC now. I think he is NBC.

wonder why you would leave USA today? NBC pays more money. Nate is in a lot of music too. Yeah. He likes band of horses and stuff like that. He likes that weird shit. They got a couple of good songs, but he already does like the off-the-wall stuff. So anyways, we're going to hit a periscope right now.

We are. We're going to do a two-minute one. Just talk about it for a minute. Natalie coming in? Yeah, come on in, Natalie. Let's end this show. We would like to thank. I'd like to thank one main.

Again, Exalt the Studios. Thanks to my lovely. co-hosts KB and my buddy, TJ. KB. All right, thanks for joining us. This was awesome. It was great. Awesome sauce.

Can you say awesome sauce? Awesome sauce. Is that still a good word to use? I think when you're like eight. I can't, what was that other word she used? I bet you can't even say. Rebuttal? Tangentile.

Tangential. Tangential. Tangential. You guys can use that today. Tangental. You didn't say the word rebuttal today. She did. I said it.

Yeah, she did. I said it. Yeah. I said it. Rebuttal. We're out. Out. Bye.

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