Door Bumper Clear - 97 - Do You Want to Build a Snowman

Episode Date: April 30, 2018

TJ is fresh off his Talladega victory and relives the race with the gang before covering everything that went down at Talladega, Matt Kenseth’s return, NASCAR buying ARCA, qualifying without restrictor plates, overused words and Frozen costumes. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Outside, door, bumper, clear the 18th. Benzcar I had here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag. You're win.

Oh, yeah. Hey, everybody. I'm Tj. Major, spot of the 22-cup car, the 25 truck who hasn't raced in a month. The winning spotter of the 22-cup car. It's true. Ligano returns to Victory Lane.

Fresh off of Victory Lane in the season. you. Brett Griffin Spotter for Clint Boyer. Elliot Sadler, Mike Snyder, thanks to One May Financial for bringing this podcast to you guys. I am not drunk. Which is kind of a second way. I know. I was going to say.

I wonder if TJ's going to have the same scenario. I wanted to text him. So we exchanged some text last night. And I wanted to end it with, hey man, what do you drink? Because I'm sure I got at my bar and I'll bring us a shot. But I was like, I don't think TJ's going to be down. I probably would have drank it today. I probably would have taken the shot today.

So if I brought me. Mamosas, maybe not see. Oh, yeah, sure. We're talking about shots. We're not talking about mimosas. I mean, I will sip mimosas. Fireball type stuff. Fireball had been good this morning.

Yeah. What? You should have told me. For breakfast? Yeah. Why not? I put some Bailies in my coffee. For winning?

I guess, yeah. Do whatever it takes. Yeah. You've got to celebrate wins, man. They're hard to come by. Fun race to win for spotters. It is. It's a tough race.

It's a hard race on spotters. Yeah. You earn your paycheck. Tadaleigh and Daytona are the most stressful weekends for spotters. There's a lot on your shoulders, them races. People, that's most of the reason. You know, other races obviously were important, but the majority of the, you know, plate races are really where you get to do your job

and prove your worth and, you know, that's where it really comes into play. That's where most of the team and company are relying on you to feed that driver information to make good decisions and win the race. And it's a lot on your shoulders. No doubt, man. People don't realize how hard it is to get from the roof to victory lane. So there, man, how did you get there? Did you cross the track?

You drive around? I did cross the track. So they had, Roger was on the far end down there in the grandstand section, which was kind of cool. He was sitting with the fans. And I ended up meeting them and walking just, I wasn't in a bit. big hurry. You know, I was, but I know how hard it is to get from there to, you know, to victory lane. So I just ended up walking down there with them and getting there, you know, in time for

pitchers and it was fun, good time, got there and plenty of time still. Taledega is always a, always a fun place to win. You know, it's different. It's a little, it's, it's, it's, Taledega is unique because all the fans are right there too. They're right in front of us. So, you know, when something bad happens, you see a bunch of heads, I can, you can, whenever Dale Jr. we get mad and cuss a little bit. I could see, I can see a sea of heads just kind of look back up. That's awesome. The weird thing there is when something happens, everybody stands up and you hear all those seats go blab-b-blah-blah. Yeah, you can tell. And you're like, oh, what do they see that out of sight? Because they're scared me.

Yeah, and coming to the green, when they come out of four, literally you hear that. Like, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-you-you-you-you're like, dang. Sounds like thunder. It does. And there was a handful of people. I thought the crowd was. It was a good crowd. Yeah.

And the infield was packed too. You know, and it was a tough race, too. Guys could get runs. The good guys, the good guys that wanted to be aggressive and get runs could make stuff happen. Brad was pretty strong early in the race. Denny was pretty strong in the early in the race. We had a pretty good commitment with the Ford guys.

We were all working as won as much as we could. Sometimes things happened. And I think that worked out quite a bit. You know, that worked out quite a bit. That kept a lot of us in line and kept a lot of us from being shuffled. I think the stages, man, the stages have really changed the game at play tracks because the Ford Camp really treated that race like a road course. We pitted as soon as those fuel windows opened up, and it created a lot of separation

amongst the pack. So you're, you know, 12 to 15 laps into the run, and people are already pitting versus going 45 laps into the run, a full fuel run. And because of the way those stages, are laid out, I think that changed the dynamic of the race a lot. I would be a bigger fan of us saying this is when the stage points are going to be paid, but we don't take a caution for it because that caution gives us an opportunity. I mean, we had literally yesterday three different times a 55 lap run.

So it was 55 laps to start the race in stage one, 55 to start stage two. And then at the very end, after a caution flew for debris, another 55 lap window. So we were all playing that the exact same way. And I think, you know, there's a lot of people on social media complaining about this package. And I wasn't a big fan of the package. I'd be very, very honest with you. These cars were an inch lower in the rear than they were at Daytona. And I think the racing changed a lot, you know.

But plate racing is and will always be very unique. And it's still freaking exciting, you know. Now, what you said earlier about pitting, you guys pitted like 12, 13. We had enough of us. We had enough of us in a group that we made our own pack. There's eight Pitsky cars. And all, based on manufacturers and teams, kind of decided from there, like, this was your strategy. Yeah, we had at least eight of us, and then we knew we'd have a couple others that would join us.

So we would have a group of, you know, 12, 13 cars. And if we could just get in line, we were going to get in line and run as fast as we could until the end of the stage. And the other people that stayed out, when people pull off to pit, it jumbles everything up. And it takes them a few laps to get rolling again. And that time you make up, you know, the time that takes them to get rolling again. And then, you know, they're too wide. And they're too wide. Yeah.

So, and we were able to get single file. We were able to put a pretty good gap on them. Big gap. Which is, which is smart. We made the right. They made the right decisions. They did everything. And he's right.

It's kind of made it into its own race. And there's times that might not work. You know, the pack, maybe there's guys. Maybe they figured out to stay in line a little bit more. But it worked yesterday. I kind of liked the rolls package because I had guys I bet you did

We had people coming up to us saying Hey can you run a lane up in the dog league We're too loose to run the bottom And that's like Did you just say you're too loose at Talladega I mean this is the biggest widest track That we race on You should be able to turn left and right

As hard as you can And not and have stability and all that We were running single file Up a lane in the dog leg Because we were too loose to run the bottom So that to me me, I like when handling does play a factor in it. And we've, this is probably the most handling race we've ever had at Talladega, in my opinion.

People were, I mean, when Kevin Harvick's coming down there saying, hey, can you run a lane up? I'm too loose run the bottom. That's pretty big. He's pretty good. And he drives a loose race car anyway. Yes. So, I mean, I thought it was pretty good. Guys that wanted to be aggressive could still, the good guys still kind of, you know, rose to the front there.

So, I mean, I thought it was fun. I know people want, you know, 75 lead changes, won every lap or whatever, but that's, I mean, that's pretty dangerous too. I thought it was cool at the end. A lot of people on Twitter were talking about how, like, if Kurt kind of slowed down a bit just to get the draft, it's like you never know what would have happened. I mean, there are so many scenarios. You don't know what's going to happen at the end of these. For all I, I mean, I was planning on Kevin and Kurt making a run at us, and that's what I was planning on happening. But I tried. Well, I liked the fact that the 17 and the 9 were behind them.

And I know if the 17 or 9 could get to the quarter panel of either one of them cars, they were going to do it. So I liked that. And the 17 and 9 kept backing up. They kept backing up trying to get runs. And they could never time it right. And then when I saw Kurt get to the outside of the floor, I loved seeing that. Because I know Kevin's just not going to let him go. And they're going to race each other.

And we can just kind of ride around out there pulling both lanes, you know, move up a little bit, down a little bit. and, you know, Kurt was able to get clear, but he didn't have anybody behind him. Like, he couldn't get the 41 to him. Yeah, he couldn't get the four to him to help him enough in time. And I'm not sure the four would have, you know. But, you know, leading is the best place to be at the end, because everyone wants to be up where you are,

and they're going to race behind you at some point. No one's, third-place guy is not content being third, obviously. Fourth-place guy doesn't want to be fourth, so if he has a run, he's probably going to take it. Yeah. I think the two biggest things, to help T.J. win the race, and one, he just alluded to the 41 going around the four on the outside. The second thing was the big wreck with Jimmy and Byron and three and four, because it really only

left 10 good cars and drivers out there. And it's a lot easier to go out and practice in a small pack, get the lead and keep the lead, because there's not all these different things going on to create a lot of momentum in those different lines. So T.J. obviously, managed the race well. Ligano managed to race well. But when you only have to beat 10 cars, it's so much easier than having to beat 30. And we've seen us come to the checker with 30. And it's, all hellbreaking loose all the way through there. And then TJ has a lot less that he's paying attention to in terms of he knows exactly what he's got to do to manage the win like he did.

Well, the less cars too. When they get three wide, it's pretty hard. Like you know all lanes are coming. At one point they were. The third lane, Suarez was pouring the outside lane, and we had to go up and block them. But that's the product. That's why I like to be at front. I don't like riding around in the back.

I like to try to control the race because that way if the big wreck does happen, you're in front of it most of the time. And you don't have, it just eliminates competition. And like you said, the pack. And that's a lot. It takes a lot away from it. Yeah. I want to know, are there any stories from Talladega Boulevard?

Anything we should be aware of? The only time I was in the infield is when I drove through the tunnel to go into the truck and leave. Oh, well, that's not fun. You know, I saw, I didn't do anything this weekend. I had a freaking sinus infection, which is awesome. So they put me on a steroid and I've been eating red meat cheese because it makes me crave food for some of them. But I saw Friday night, man, that they had a huge party on the infield with all the drivers. Yeah, it looked pretty big.

And, I mean, I think that's awesome. You know, I mean, to give the drivers an opportunity to only have to qualify on Saturday, which means they have to go run one lap wide open. And of all the things they do that requires talent, qualifying at Talladega is not one of them. Elliot has always said to me, dude, your grandma could go qualify to Talladega. Now, once they drop the green flag, it's a different story. But to see those guys are out there amongst the fans, partying,

I think that speaks to why there were so many people at the racetrack. Why that infill so bad? I thought it was so cool, too, because they do this every year. And they do it on Saturday night as well. But that's what brings, I mean, there is nothing in Talladego whatsoever. So when you go to Talladega, you are in the infield. And it was cool that the track does a great job of really bringing a party. Well, Friday night's their big party.

And the Saturday night, they had Uncle Cracker and Tim Dugger play. Yeah. Friday night's more the driver deal because they know. People get to see these guys' personalities a little bit. They're away from their element. They're not in their uniforms. They're kind of out hanging out, which is cool. It's good for the, it's good for people to, you know, I'm sure kids saw these guys and became fans.

Well, the drivers have a 12-hour bottle to throttle rule, right? So they can have cocktails up until midnight to go qualify at noon the next day. So they get to go out there and realistically just be one of the people. And then what was it? There was on Halloween, they do like a costume contest or something. So the fall race is really where you want to go. The fall race is good, too. Yeah.

They do a pretty good trick-or-treat thing, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, well, they let all the kids go from bus to bus, basically. And they do set up a nice little deal in the playground area. They're in the dry run a lot for, but I'm sure Halloween at Talladegated. I mean, that's just perfect, kind of a perfect match anyway, yeah. The track does a good job of it. It's a spotter's dream to win at Talladega.

Congratulations. Yeah, congrats. It's always fun to win in Talladega. Daytona as well. You just have so much more of a role in the win. So, yeah. All right, shall we head in the spot on, spot off? Let's do it.

All right. First one, I want to hear from TJ. Legano thanks Dale Jr. for retiring, so he'd get you. What did you think about that one? Why is that got to be spot on or spot off? Well, I don't know. That was Jason right there. I mean, spot on.

for, you know, for Joey appreciating, you know, and realizing the value of a good spotter and being, you know, aggressive, trying to find one that he wanted to work with. You know, he said, and I watched his press conference deal, and he said I was very loyal

to Dale Jr., which was true. You know, I wasn't, you know, I stuck with Dell Jr. until he was done. So, you know, everything was kind of done right, and I learned a lot from, Dale Jr. He taught me without teaching me, you know, just watching him and learning from his moves taught me myself. So that was, uh, it's, you know, it's very valuable information. I don't even, like, it's something that you couldn't even really write about it. It's just,

you just see it and you know it. So, um, but, you know, spot on for Joey, uh, you know, appreciating it and, and, uh, being thankful and, and respecting, you know, the job that we have to do. People don't realize that Joy Lugano tried to hire TJ years ago while he was spotting for Dell Jr. And came in and kind of said, hey, man, I want you to come. Leave Hendrick, leave Del Jr. Come to me. And TJ said, ah, man, I really want to. But I love Del Jr.

And I'm going to finish his career. And that's what he did. And so the timing of it still all worked out for everybody. I think the big thing for me here to be spot on about is anytime a driver is willing to compliment the position that we do and bring attention to the position that we do. It's great for guys like TJ that are high profile guys that can bring even and garner even more attention for it. But to have that relationship and to have the driver publicly, it's easy to privately hug you and say thank you. But to publicly give you the credit, the position, the credit. And there's three times we're extremely important. Restarts,

big wrecks and plate racing. So when those guys are willing to step up and give us our dues, man, I think it's awesome. Fewest lead changes at Daga since 1919. I am completely spot on for this right now. I wonder why. We're spot on. I'm all for it. We did a hell of a job keeping the lead. Spot on.

I think we touched on it a minute ago. I mean, I think the stages played into it. I think the rules package played into it. I think it was. So stage is definitely played into it. We were, so as a group, as a group we were committed. If you were leading off pit road coming to the checker flag and the stage, we were all kind of content taking our stage points where we came off there

because if you go to Talladega and you finish fifth six in the stages and then you get in that big wreck you came out of there with something still so we were content working as a group helping one another keeping that gap you know and committing ourselves to each other that that's just how it played out had we not have done that as much we would have been would have been pretty we would have seen more changes at the end things were slower to develop the normal. You know, we typically see guys go out there, get really aggressive with the bumping and really aggressive with almost the tandem style stuff. And then you see the big

runs. And we just, man, everything yesterday for me was just a lot slower to develop the normal. But, I mean, it's still, like I said, it's still plate racing. It's still its own animal. And it's always going to be exciting, you know. And it's a lot different experience for people listening on the radio and watching on TV and watching in person. You know, it's all, I mean, I get to the car after we wrecked and those guys on the radio are screaming and, you know, oh, I'm out of her. too wide and I'm like man I'm looking on my fan vision and I'm not you're waiting wow like you can really make stuff exciting you know I mean but that's the thing in how we all you know digest what's going on this big news coming out of last week Matt Kenseth in the sixth car for

10 to 12 races spot on or spot off I spot on it that's gonna Matt as a experienced driver Matt knows Matt will help that program. I think they did a really good job getting him back. Matt is no stranger to Rouse. That's where he was at for years, where he first started his career. So I think getting Matt back and established guy does nothing but help your program. And honestly, it might come in and help Trevor. You know, it might come in and help Trevor.

I think definitely a positive the whole way around for me, spot on. I mean, when you look at Rouse, they've had two pretty big press conferences here and the press releases here. A couple weeks ago, they announced Ricky had sponsors through, you know, 20-20, I believe it was. Yeah. And now they're announcing that Matt's coming home. So from a PR side, they've got a lot of positive things going on, you know, from the reality side, they have to do that. I mean, we've talked about on this show. They're not in a position to keep struggling.

They've gone from five cup teams, four Xfinity teams. They had nine full-time teams, and now they have three, two-cup teams, one-exfinity. Finney team with a part-time effort on that 60 car that they got going on there. So like you've got to have good things going on. And I think a guy like Matt can certainly turn it around. I mean, Trevor has struggled to finish on the lead lap. Ricky hasn't had a lot of good runs. You know, he had one yesterday, finished top five. But they've got to turn this thing around. And I think this is kind of the first step to do that. Now they've got somebody that can come in and say, this is what the cars need to go fast. Matt just won a bunch of races at JGR, you know, last year. So when you look at a guy like

him coming in and he can come in and win races and tell you what you need. But also he can tell Ricky, stop hitting your cars up. This is what you're looking for during practice to be good during the race. Because Ricky doesn't have a mentor. You know, Ricky haven't been doing this that long. And they don't have anybody around them. Neither one of those guys are leaders yet. I'm out of I don't see it that way.

You know, Ricky was on his way to kind of work. He was working his way up to that. But then he kind of fell off a little bit there. and he tore up a bunch stuff real quick, and, you know, it kind of fell off a little bit, but I don't, I don't see how, I don't see how this hurts the organization at all. I mean, I think it's great for them to bring him in there.

And good for Matt, too, to get back in and, and be willing to go and do this as well. That's a big, that's a big task for Matt, too, so. Yeah, Matt's, there's, there's something bigger on the horizon. This isn't just for 10, 12 races. This is going to be a, I see Matt full time in a car next year at Rouse. I really do. Are you foreshadowed?

I'm not, I don't know anything. I mean, if I knew anything, I'd tell you. So you're saying it'd be really cool and you think that this could happen. I'm telling you it has to be happening for this to have happened. I think it would be cool for them to put Matt, Matt be full time next year and keep the current six team as well and go back to a three-car team with Matt as a leader, as those two guys of those two. I mean, the reality, what opens this opportunity up is Trevor's, you know,

sponsor schedule wasn't sold out. You know, Advocare has the majority of the races, but there were 10 or 12 that weren't sold. well, now they're sold and they're sold with a different driver. You know, if Trevor had sponsor commitments, this isn't an opportunity at all because the inventory sold. But because this inventory was available, they found a partner, found their driver, and you've got to think they got bigger plans for this than just 10 to 12 races. Yeah, hopefully now these sponsors will see the exposure they'll get just with bringing Matt back in.

Yeah. It's for next year. I mean, here's the crazy thing. And I've said something to somebody at Roush. Matt Kenseth is the man at Dover. Like, he's one of the best five drivers to. ever drive a race car, Dover. So like you almost wish they were going to do it this weekend, but obviously,

advocate was probably already on the car. But again, I mean, Kansas, you go back to Kansas a few years ago. Matt's leading the race, Lugano takes him out. And so there's a place that he obviously can run away. He's going to be an immediate asset to this race team. Spencer Gallagher wins his first Xfinity series race, spot on, spot off. This was cool. I mean, I was going to see what you said about it.

I actually sat in the grandstands and watched this race. Um, Spencer did a great job to the end of the race there. He was aggressive, did what he needed to do, and got out front. He was going to win or wreck. Um, and he won the race, but he did everything perfectly, the last lap to win that race. Um, so I got to go spot on. You know, it'll be, and he's picked it up a little bit these last handful of races. Richmond, he was pretty competitive. He's had top tens. I mean, from the season. I don't know. I don't know what's clicking, what's all of sudden clicked over there what they're doing but in the last three or four races Spencer has been impressive i have to say i don't think this is a possibility if cup drivers are in this race now you

never know because because they could have wrecked out but but i but i really believe that you put a few cup drivers in this race and you've got Kyle larsen joy legano elliot sadler and and that's going to be the three or four guys that are going to lead every lap and and when you look at realistically there's no cup drivers in it, it gives guys like Spencer Gallagher an opportunity to go win the race, and he did. And I think it's great for our sport because his dad has come in. His dad made, you know, he owns a Legion Air or something. I think so. And he also owns Victory Air, which is a private charter company that a lot of race teams use, including Junior Motorsports, he got back and forth to the track. And so for his dad to be a team owner here and spend a lot

of money to be here, it's really cool to see a guy like that in Victory Lane smiling and winning with us up. He earned it. He earned that. He earned that. win. Totally. 100%. So I just think for the series, it's great. I mean, here's a guy that if you just said Spencer Gallagher is going to make the playoff.

You'd have been like, well, I don't know. But with the way, they got the rules aligned this year. Names are made here. Guess what? Spencer, you made your name. I will say, though, the last few races have been a blast to watch. I agree. They've been a blast.

I've enjoyed watching these kids, these guys that are trying to win. I've enjoyed watching them race and, you know, be in contention for wins. Well, it's fun to watch guys that their livelihood depends on that series. Yeah, so they know they're running, like, now they're racing someone, they're not worried about being a cup guy now. And they're making it more exciting racing each other for wins. Here's my thing, TJ. Like, I'm a little bit nervous before this Xfinity race because I'm like,

this is going to be a shisho. That's why I stuck around to watch this. It's going to be big. And those guys drove awesome. I thought they did a good job. We only had really one wreck. And if you had a cup guy, up there, they're coming to play with you.

They don't care about points. They only want to win. They'll screw you over in a heartbeat. So it gives these guys an opportunity to learn the integrity of the game because they're not going to take each other out because they realize. Spitzer Gallagher realized probably with about five to go, man, I can win this race. Well, now what he's going to realize from now until the chase starts, the playoff starts for Xfinity series, I don't really want to piss anybody off.

I don't want anybody owing me anything because if I make you mad Casey in the first race to playoff, you punt me and pay me back. my playoffs over. So I just think it's really good for the integrity of the sport and the marketing campaign for what they're ultimately trying to accomplish here to put these guys out there racing each other with their lives on the line. And you have to think the sponsors, I mean, Garrett Spidly, Matt Mills, they were all up front.

Yeah, they were going to run. They had a chance to dash for cash this week. Like, it has to help their sponsors heading into next year when they're trying to find inventory. 100%. And those guys are in the ballpark of one. people to just buy their tires. Let's be honest with each other.

If they can get 10,000 here and 20,000 there, that's a big hit for them. They don't have the marketing platform that junior motorsports have. They don't have the exposure. They don't have the cars. They don't have the engineers. We spend a lot of money here to run up front. Those guys don't spend a lot of money. So for them to have that chance, man, I think it's really cool.

Yeah. I thought that was okay the way that race played out. There was strategy. I thought it was pretty cool to have strategy coming to play like that, Talladega. I mean, one guy was going to look like a genius. Yeah. And, you know, and our guy looked like he was going to win by three quarters of a lap.

Even the guys behind him, though. Look at, I mean, it's awesome. But you had the zero and the double zero. And I'm like, man, these guys are going to do it here. They're like, what a good day for them. This is playing out like crazy. And, you know, it didn't, I was a little disappointed when the caution came out. You know, when you have a flat tire and you stay on the racetrack at Talladegh until you bring out a caution,

knowing that your day is pretty much over. Because if you're going into turn 1, You're not even to turn one yet and your tires blown out. That thing's going to rip the fender off before it gets back for sure. Yeah. So, or you're going to be two laps down crawling around at 15 miles an hour. For sure. So, I mean, get off the racetrack.

It's not your day. I was a little disappointed in that. I feel like there's been some selfish driving in that aspect from that car a little bit lately. And I wasn't very pleased with that because it was setting up to be, I like a finish like that. But every race, to me at Talladegh, it doesn't have to be four wide. across the line. You know, sometimes, sometimes we can get split up and we can have somebody outsmart somebody. And I thought it was cool.

Yeah. I think the funny thing is, you know, we're sitting there watching it play out. I had gotten a mess on pit road where they wrecked and we got a speeding penalty trying not to get wrecked and whatever else. So we're trying to come back and put ourselves in position to win $100,000 and then obviously transfer in. So you're worried about yourself. You're watching the race.

You're watching it play out. But then you see Algar got out of fuel and you're like, oh, this guy wasn't even going be close. Like, don't let those people figure out my fuel mileage to fly on my airplane this begin, you know what I mean? But then you see the 22 run out of fuel and you're like, oh, he wasn't going to be close either. So, like, you kind of, to TJ's point, you're like, man, if this had played out, I don't

know who was going to win this race because everybody starts running out of fuel under yellow. Man, did you imagine who would have won that race? Yeah, no idea. I mean, it could have been the zero, double zero or somebody. 100% could have been. I mean, that would have been awesome. Yeah. That would have been awesome.

It's cool to watch style of different. strategies play out, though. You know, the topping off. And we were four laps short, which is why we didn't pit when I got are pitted. And, I mean, four laps, it sounds like nothing. But at Talladega, that's almost 20 miles. Yeah. I think the 22 actually finished without pitting.

He was just on the banking, didn't have enough fuel in the pickup to take off. Right. So once he got rolling again, he was fine. I mean, he came back around, I was running down pit road and everything. But the way the banking is there was enough fuel in the pickup. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to see Dover because that just means all these guys. again, back at it for dash for catch.

I can't wait, man. It's been an awesome month. The product has been awesome. Yeah, it's been awesome. NASCAR buys ARCA. Jim France calls it a logical step in demonstrating our commitment to the next generation of racers.

Spot on or spot off. What do you think here, TJ? What's going on? I'm spot on with this because I feel like the K&N series and the ARCA series are almost the same thing. And I feel like if they combine them, could have an awesome. So you think that's what's going to happen? I don't, I'm, I'm hoping that's

what happens because they would have a full field of good cars. Um, I think you could take the best tracks of both series and kind of combine them. Um, and I don't think anything's supposed to change until after next year. Let me give you some financial information. I don't really have an opinion. And a TV deal. Uh, ARCA cost about a million dollars a year to go run every race. So that's a lot of money. K&N cost about $750,000 a year to go run every race. Now, the numbers that I'm giving you are numbers that would put you in a position to win races. That's a big enough budget to have good cars, two, three good people, and go out and try to win races. That's a lot of money. You know, I think what ARCA does really well is it's a lot of markets in the Midwest,

a lot of short tracks. They run on some dirt some. You know, I just don't know enough about what NASCAR is really trying to accomplish here. You know, maybe the ARCA guy, just want it out, you know. But I hope what NASCAR does with this is what Kevin Harvick was fussing about six weeks ago. It's almost like NASCAR heard Kevin Harvick fussing about. You need more grassroots racing. You need to be in the trenches. And it's almost like they said, well, this is an easy way for us to do this.

It's a way to start. It's a way for us to get back in the short track racing and to get back in the weekly. I mean, because Ark will run the middle of a week. You know what I mean? So I hope that's what their plan is, is to migrate back to short tracks. I honestly hope is it gives more opportunities for drivers to move up, like you said. I mean, cost is obviously a factor, but maybe it creates a- Don't forget, ARCA has a TV deal, too.

Yeah, they do. So if they could combine the series and have 20 competitive cars, that could be a lot of fun. And the K&N and ARCA, K&N series is a lot of young guys. It's majority young guys. So ARCA has a mix. It has some young guys, and it has some older veteran guys that, you know, They're just kind of doing it for fun. But if you could take the best of both there and put them in, you know, a race, I think it could be fun.

You know, the ARCA series has always been very friendly to NASCAR and vice versa. They've kind of... It's a fun series. It's a family, it's a very family-oriented series. Everybody... Yeah. These guys know each other. They know every...

You know the tire guys. Some guy's brother, this guy's cousin, you know, it's family stuff. And you can show up in an open trailer, an open-air trailer. Some do. You know, and go out and race and not be, you know, kind of look. that like what are you doing here you know what i mean and and i think there's a lot of positives but man you got to really sit down in the meetings and if i were nascar i would go to people like del junior and people like kevin harvick and say how do we align this to work for where you guys came from

when you were racing how do we make this better you know what i mean so i think there's a lot of opportunity i just hope that that we have a better understanding of what i hope it works out it could i think it'll work out i think if they're on the right path they're obviously doing something They're up to something, and I think it'll be good. Yeah. Before we take a break, we want to take a moment of silence for former NASCAR driver James Hilton and his son, James Jr., who passed away over the weekend. This is the Exalt to Race Center update.

I'm Natalie Sather. Both Cup and Xfinity competed at Talladega Super Speedway over the weekend. On Sunday, Joy Lagana won the Geico 500, making it his first Cup race win of the season. Kyle Bush still maintains the points lead. On Saturday, Spencer Gallagher bested the field and won the sparks. Energy 300 in overtime, claiming his first series victory. Junior Motorsports drivers Justin Algeyer finished third, Elliot Sadler 5th, Tyler Reddick 8th, and Michael Annette 14th.

Junior Motorsports late models were off this weekend. We want to send a huge congratulations to late model driver Josh Barry, who was married over the weekend. This has been your Exalta Race Center update. Exalta is the official paint partner of NASCAR, developing, manufacturing, and supplying coatings to all types of vehicles and industrial applications. For more in Exaltta, visit ExaltosCS.com. Cheer on Elliot Sadler, Saturday, May 5th at the One Main Financial 200 in Dover.

How about to cheer on me and TJ? TJ, are you going to be in this race? I'm not in this race. Well, then just cheer on me. How about me? I'll be there marketing. If you bring me... Go, Casey.

Go. If you bring me pom-poms, I'll cheer you all. All right, I will. You know, you can still get free tickets to this race by going to participating One Main Financial branches, and there's a bunch A roundover Delaware. Limit four tickets for a person. While supplies left.

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Listen, when you're playing a game and you're on a team of four and you're on the same team and you've got to work together, and three of you are right here and the other guys and, you know, Troutman from here? Yeah, no, like, literally, a half a mile that way. And he runs into another group and gets, you know. I think I just hit a nerve. He doesn't make it.

All right, back to the door. So what we're telling you is games are fun. Go to games and giveaways at one-line racing.com and get you four tickets to come cheer on Elliot Sadler, the one of main finances. And Brett and TJ. And you. And me. And Jason.

And Jason. And we're back. Let's head into Fast Lane. We're all give three topics pertaining to racing and one that is off the wall. Brett and T.J. both have 30 seconds to respond. First one, NASCAR changed the cup restrict your plate size on Friday after high speeds and a flip by Jamie McMurray in practice. What did you all think of that decision? I liked the decision.

We were getting a little... I bet you did. I love any decision. that happened at Talladega this last weekend. You are just winning right there. They were going fast, a little too fast, in my opinion. We were having cars, and Grant, with the new roles and stuff, we were having car. We had a car spinning qualifying because we're trying to get them, you know, so low and out of the air.

But, you know, there is a point to where we are going a little too fast, and NASCAR can change the speed a little bit without changing a whole lot. just get the cars a little so without making a big change by that plate. Yeah, I mean, you know, some NASCAR arrow guy that I've never heard of came at me on Twitter saying that they didn't make this plate change because Jamie McMurray flipped. For whatever reason, anytime we see over 200 miles an hour, we usually see them play with it to get it back down. And Jamie was going to leave the earth regardless. Newman helped him leave, but he was already leaving when Newman hit him. I think that decision was based on the faster we go, the harder it is to pass, and the cars are going to.

The last thing we need is a car or pieces of the car to go in the stands. Because looking at it from a fan, 180 and 200, you can't tell that much of a difference. So just make it safer. Yeah, like he said, slower. There is a threshold there where it starts becoming, I think it spikes and how dangerous it gets. And we don't need to be going, you know, honestly, there's been races that ran 180 mile an hour that were awesome. So, like he said, the faster you go, the more it's going to string the field out too. So, in my opinion, you're going to strain the field out more and it's going to be harder to pass.

I wish, and this is off topic, but I wish we could go down there and take the plates off these cars. And let us qualify with them off. Like, I don't want to race with them off because it's way too dangerous for everybody, the fans and the drivers. You would probably have to take out the first 30 rows of bleachers in the grandstand if you let us go around and unrestricted. Indie cars top out at 230 miles an hour. I bet our cars today would run 260, 270. It would be awesome to let them go down there, though, and just qualify them. One at the time, man versus machine.

Like, I think that would be so awesome. Ah, man, it'd be... Be scary. One of these genius engineers can tell us how fast these cars would go. It would be way faster than any car. If you know, tweet us. Yes. It would go fast.

I mean, we... These guys are smart. They know what they're doing. They know how to make these cars go real fast. So, yeah. But we... something, a freak accident happens when you're going that fast, that's big trouble. If Jamie McMurray cuts that tire at 240 mile an hour, holy cow.

Lights out, yeah. Yeah, I don't even want to know where he might have landed Annison. Might have. Yeah, yeah. And we don't need that. No. So. But it would be cool to see him qualify like that.

Just to see how fast they can really go. I would be okay with just a test. Like, let's just get out there and see one time. You know, what's it going to be like if we did take the plates off these cars? Yeah. You know, but. I did some stuff. with Jeff Burton a couple years ago for the NBC broadcast, and he was out there in his race car,

and his race car was unrestricted. And so he's out there, you know, and he's managing it. He's like, Brett, watch this, and he hammers it. And physically, you could see him going out of backstretched. It looked like he was going 240 miles an hour. But you could tell he was going faster in that, you know, kind of play race car than our cars were going, just because it was unrestricted. Like, it's crazy.

Yeah. Anyway, sorry, I interrupted your show. My show? Just glad you picked a good time for us to start today. Well, don't worry. I'll send you my schedule for next week. D.L. Where did you get that shirt at?

This shirt? That looks like some Myrtle Beach stuff back in the day. It looks like something from the 80s store. Tidei. Really? Absolutely. I just like, I figured I'd be pink today. I didn't know tie dye was back in.

I didn't either. Should I not be wearing it? Sure. I don't care if you're wearing it. I just haven't seen a shirt like that in a while. I got it at like a normal store, not on the beach. So I guess it's still in. Have you ever?

made your own tie-dye t-shirts. I have. I used to love doing that. Yeah. Make us some. I'm an extra large. I'm serious. I'll get right on it. Make me some. Okay. What else you have to do? Hey, me? Hey, listen to me. I'm nothing going on. I think we're doing a Fand-Day podcast here. Have we announced that? Yeah, it's online. Or do we just announce it? So we're doing a podcast for Fand-day here. Make us some tie-dye shirts. Can I put the logo on it? Do you? I don't care what you put on. Okay. I spell I'm serious. Can you do this? I can try my best. I'm not the most creative person in the world, but we'll work on it. I made this shit. I got to do.

I really got nothing going on. I know because Chad just wants to watch golf and stuff. He hasn't watched golf in a while. Since the Masters. Yeah, that's like the one. Like I want the bursty looking tie-dyes. Like I don't. Like, bam.

What color do you want? I don't like orange. Don't like orange. No, they're not wearing orange. All right. Make it all orange. No. I won't wear it.

Is that because of Clemson? I'll go naked before I wear orange. He doesn't. He hates Clemson. Yep. That ain't happening. That's why. No, they.

My kids came out one time for Halloween in an orange shirt. I'm like, where are y'all going? We've got some big Halloween party. No, not in them shirt. It's Halloween. I said, oh, what it is. They're not wearing orange. The rules you must have in your house.

No orange. That's it. Simple. We are way off topic here. I'll work on those tie-that shirts. Sorry. Yes. Please do.

I like your shirt. Thanks. Dale Sr. would have been 67 on Sunday. What do you guys think his role would be if he were still here with us? Man, I think we could probably, I wish we could ask Dale Jr. this. You know, maybe when, maybe we say this question again for when he comes on our show if he ever comes. Do you work on that for a hundred?

Sooner later, he's got to. He's got to bring his ratings up. I really feel like, you know, we just miss his presence. And I remember, you know, when I started in the sport, he'd walk in the NASCAR truck. and he'd go talk to Bill France, and we'd have a rule change, and it would be for the better. And I think a lot of these rule changes that just keep compounding, I think he would settle some of that down. I don't think he would have been a big advocate for us constantly changing all the rules. For sure.

You know, what drivers can drive on what series and what playoff format it is. And it's 12 drivers one year, and the next year is 16, and one year you can win on points. And the next year you've got to win a race. Like, there's a lot been going on right here. Yeah, I think he would still be, I think he'd be a successful team owner. I think, and I also think he'd be a very, very voice people would listen to in the sport, you know, on role changes and stuff like that. I think he would be, I think he'd be very knowledgeable, and I think he would do a very good job, and we wouldn't have had as many role changes and stuff like that. So I think he would be a successful team owner, though, for sure.

When you look at how quickly he built DEI, you know, they had three cup cars. They had their own engine program alliance going on with ECR, Earnhardt Childers Racing. He had a lot of really, really, really good things going on. Fast cars right in the beginning. I mean, you got Steve Park, who was being badass, you know, before his injury. Dale Jr. come on the scene. Winning races as a rookie. That didn't happen back then.

You know, Adele Jr. rolled in in 90, in 2000 as a rookie. Boom, he wins two races. And I think he won an all-star race rookie year. Yeah. Like, that didn't happen. So, I mean, he, the EI was doing such good things. Stop digging me. We're talking about Dale Earnhardt.

Okay, keep going. This is different. But, I mean, all the positive things that were happening with him here, you know, it's kind of heartbreaking because I still drive by DEI out here, you know, and it's still there, and, man, it just sucks. Yeah, it's an amazing building, too. And back in the day, it was an awesome place to go by, what they call it, the garage mahal? Yeah, garage mall.

Yep, glass fronts. It's built out in the middle of farmland. You've seen it, right? Yeah, it's actually a wedding venue. Is it really? There's a wedding venue behind it now. Yeah. We missed Dale.

I think he would do a lot for the sport. He has done a lot in sport even when he's not here. Yeah, I mean, I still, you know, yesterday at Talladega, there's a lot of Dale Earnhardt stuff still being worn, you know. Jimmy Johnson has won three of the last four spring Dover races. Will he return to victory lane on Sunday, T.J. You know, my gut's saying not yet. I don't know if I've seen the speed in the cars to quite, you know, get past. The 18 is going to be real fast.

The 11 will be good. But I don't know if I've seen that yet. Is Jimmy capable of doing it? Absolutely. Jimmy knows what he's just, that track fits Jimmy Johnson. There's four guys that come to mind when you think of Dover. It's Jimmy Johnson, Kyle Bush, Greg Biffle, and Carl Edwards in my mind. Those are the four guys.

You know, Matt's good there too, but those guys. Those four that I named there were the guys that were going to race for the win every week. And the three to come to my mind are Jimmy Johnson, Kyle Larson, Matt Kenseth. And if I add four, for sure, Kyle Bush, because he's so good on new tires there. But is this a place that Jimmy can win Sunday yet is if he can get track position and they get him comfortable. And he realistically, TJ, almost has to turn his season around right here. It's getting time. Yeah.

Off the wall topic. A bar in NYC is banning the use of the word. literally saying it is the most overused and annoying word in the English language. Oh, that's totally me. You say it all the time? What would I do? What overused word would you want to ban? So when you say literally, do you literally mean it as literal?

I don't know. It's just like a part of my vocabulary now. Yeah, it just like. It's like reaction almost now. Like I literally jumped over the moon. No, you didn't. You literally didn't jump over the moon. I think that's kind of Kristen Bauer, who was on our show last year.

she kind of brought that to my attention is when people misuse it now and the noise the hell out of me. Oh, I literally passed out. No, you literally didn't. You're still standing here talking to me. So it's really BS. You're literally calling BS. I'm literally calling BS. I meant that literally.

Yeah. Literally? Yeah. I mean, I can see that. I can see that for sure. Which word do you want to ban? Me? Yeah.

Hillary Clinton. That's not really a word. That's two words. That's a name. That's a noun. No, it's a verb. I stand by my I stand by what I just said

You know what about Casey what's your word Moist Oh I hate that word I don't understand what girls hate that Oh another one Another one I don't know I just got like goosebumps

When you said that I do not like that word What I did Not in a No I don't like that word Did you literally get goosebumps Now I'm actually not saying that word Moist? or the other one.

Say it. Or you got to say it. Girl. I didn't meet it that way. Can we go? Back to back. Why don't? So why do girls

not like that word? I don't know. What is the reasoning? So weird. No, it doesn't. It does. No, literally it doesn't. It literally does.

I don't even know. It's like one of those things where you can't tell why it bugs you, but it does. Like when you do something wrong or like your wife gets mad at you, but you don't really know what you did wrong. You just, it just bugs you. I'm breathing. At what age, at what age do y'all pull all the young girls aside and tell them to hate the word moist? Yes.

I think this is just a hand-ed-out thing. There's no, because nobody has an answer. Yeah, I couldn't even tell you. Like, I have no clue. Yeah, I just don't like it. Not a fan. Y'all think about something that y'all shouldn't think about when y'all hear that words, what's wrong with y'all?

I think it just like, enunciation of it. Do you use moisturizer? I do. But it doesn't sound as a thing. bad when you put it with the iser or I. Your eyeser? Yeah, that. Jesus.

I don't know why. We all know why. I'll tell you what. The only thing that could be worse is if it was moist Hillary Clinton. Then that word would definitely ban all three words. All right. So we know Hillary. What about Eve?

Do you not like some food to be moist inside? I just wouldn't call it that What would you call it? A pound cake, moist. Yeah, do you not like moist cake? I just like avoid using it. I don't know. I don't think about it.

What do you call cake that's not dry? Say it. I have no clue. You know you want to. I wouldn't use that. I would just refrain from actually saying it. Jason, what word are you banning? Yeah.

Like. Everyone says always like and then like and then like every other word. How many times do we say like today? And then like. Elliot says I say hot too. much. Why? When you're spotting? No. Just like, she's hot. That's hot. Isn't that what Paris Tilton used to say all the time? She's hot? Yeah, like 10 years ago. Maybe more. She's fatten. That she not I don't know, but she gets fattened cut her hair. No, she's still skinny. She has a really big diamond.

No. She's really rich. Her dad on Hilton hotels. Duh. I know. That helps. I imagine. I mean. That helps her hot meter go up even more. She's rich. She's moist. Casey, you have the power to move on. She's running the show. I know. That's just like, made me distracted. All right. Ask DBC.

Boyce. Producer Jason has chose a few asked BBC questions. First one at NK. Truninger asks, do upper tier team spotters at plate tracks try to work with other higher teams? as opposed to working with lower tier teams. Man, this guy's discriminating against those lower budget teams, DJ. It's a moist question.

Literally. Like? I mean, I don't know if we, I think the lower tier teams look to latch on to what some of the other. If you're forward and your lower tier four team, you look to latch on to what they're doing and buy into it. Because they're not going to be like, yeah, no, you're out. the more the barrier at like a track like that so um you know i i think i think they look to work with them i think it gives opportunity for it i think that fast cars want to work with fast cars at play tracks if i'm working for a fast car like clint boyer and i'm going down to talk to

someone who's spotting for col whit it's because i'm trying to use colwit to my benefit at no point do I have him as part of my strategy unless I'm in a bind. The fact that I'm having to work with a lower budget team at a plate track means I'm in trouble. You know, I'm trying to get a lap back or I'm trying to do something here that I need his help with. The fast cars align and stay in a group. You know, a guy like David Reagan every now and then it'll pull out a miracle,

you know, Michael McDowell. But for the most part, it's fast cars are up front. Well, I think, too, the teams that have alliances, obviously, coming to play, too, where you work with your teams that you support in general. They do, you know, but again, those cars are kind of equal, you know. So, I mean, when you look at RCR and say they're going to work with the 13 and the 43, yeah. I mean, but those are B minus cars, you know, they're not the D level.

I mean, if I'm down there looking at Brendan Gaughn and looking at the double zero and some of those guys like, T.J. I'll tell you, like, we're in trouble, you know. Yeah, but sometimes, I will say this, though, you always, you want them in your pocket sometimes because sometimes they're, They're the only one's there, and they can help you. And they want to help you because it helps them. If they help you, go faster, they're right there with you. This one specifically for T.J., Junior Nation Forever asks, now that you've got a few restrictor plate races under your belt with Lugano,

have you noticed any differences between him and junior? Both very good. Both very good. I think they both, you know, Joey trusts what I say. I saw him turn the wheel yesterday in some pretty quick reactions to things that were happening. And he would turn the wheel hard right or hard left when I was telling him something was happening. So that's good for me that I can see. And I had that same trust with Dale Jr. So that's, you know, that's one thing that I like to see. It makes my job easier knowing that

guy trust me. But, you know, there is, as far as differences, I think Joey is more, He's more likely to take a big risk, a big risk, you know, he's more willing to take a pretty, really aggressive risk than what I was, what I'm, you know, he's used to before. Like when he's leading or when he's, when he's where? Just to regret, like if he has no problem, if, you know, there's a hole and it's about three quarters of a car with wide, he has no problem. He has no problem making sure that it ends up being a car with wide. Right. You know, and sometimes that doesn't work out. You know, a lot of times that closes up and it doesn't work out.

Fast cars create opportunity. Yeah. And fast cars make spotters look good. Fast cars make drivers look good. I don't know if there's any big differences. Because when we had the car right for Dell Jr. at a plate track, he was aggressive and knew what he needed to do as well. So I don't think there's a lot of big differences between the two.

I'm fortunate enough to work with two guys that were very good at plate racing. Scotty Stiles 29 asks, what's with so many commercials on Fox during the race broadcasts? How would you guys fix the way the race is broadcasted? Dude, I saw a lot of people including guys like Jeff Gluck. I read that tweeting about the fact that the commercials were so bad. I saw it was like three minutes more commercials during the broadcast than the week before or something. Jason, what stats you got for us on this? Yeah, I just saw that there was a lot.

I didn't watch the race broadcast, but I heard there was a lot. There were a lot for sure. I mean, look, was it on Fox or was it on Fox Sports? Fox. So, I mean, people have to realize that Fox came in and paid a premium to cover our sport. And the way they recouped their money is by selling ads. And when you're on Fox, those ads cost a lot more money. And so Fox is able to recoup a lot of their investment that they've spent to cover our sport.

I get it. I also as a fan think, man, it sucks. They didn't have balance because we're at a place where lead changes happen faster than normal. Rex happen more frequently than normal. These stages have given them an opportunity to kind of take these breaks. And you just hate to hear that fans are saying, hey, man, this is going on too much. What do you do to fix it? Guys, you got cell phones.

You got Twitter. You got MR. you got the NASCAR app. You've got enough resources to where I don't really want to hear you bitch about the TV aspect. Because our sport probably has more going on on technology with a fewer fans that are actually on these platforms. You know, the NFL fans, they don't have the access that our fans have. The problem is our fans are older and they don't know how to access all this stuff. But I think there's enough resources now where I can say, maybe not at Talladega because I get it.

But for the most part, we got the stuff where you don't need to be fussing about this. call bill Bill is this Bill? Yes it is How's it going man It's T.J. and Brett And Casey

Hey what's going on? It's going good We just learned that Casey sang karaoke To sweet child of mine By Guns and Roses Well Nice

I mean I think I did I don't remember She doesn't really remember She blacked out After that I mean I clearly wasn't Blocked out Because I remember singing karaoke

So you got a good question for us Yeah I was just wondering who parties harder after a day go win. Well, who are we comparing this to? Me or Brad, are you talking about drivers or? Junior or Lugano? Oh, I know the answer to that. I know the answer to that.

Yeah, I think I do too. Yeah. But that might change here soon. Joey's already got a little one now, so that might. That might change soon. We've had a lot of parties after wins with D'L Jr. So, yeah, that's, yeah, we know the answer to that one. What he's not telling you, Bill, is Wendell Jr. has a party.

Nobody gets to go to bed. They don't, they just stay up all night. Yeah, you probably wouldn't have made it in this morning, the junior one. Yeah, I would have just wouldn't want to bed. You don't think I can stay up all night? He'd probably still be drinking. Yeah. I would have Ubered here.

would have to get an Uber. But, no, yeah, that's, we've had some good parties. We've definitely had some good parties back in the day. Where you from, Bill? Upstate New York. Oh, whereabouts? Steventown. Oh, I don't know what that's at.

It's about 45 minutes east of Albany. Holy cow, that's not upstate. It's not Albany, it's Albany. Oh, we're not getting into this again. What is upstate New York? I saw a map on this a couple weeks ago. So, what is considered? Western, I think.

Yeah. Okay. It's upstate. I'd say anything north of Poughkeepsie is upstate. Titi. What do you say? We know what Brett's on Brett's mind right now. What did he say?

He says to me, anything from Syracuse, north is upstate New York, roughly, in my opinion. Anything north of Syracuse is upstate. Well, Syracuse is kind of middle of the state, I would say. Yeah, but it's in the upper half of the state there. If you go any further on that. So, Bill, do you watch race yesterday? I sure did. What did you think, man?

Give us your 30-second version of what you thought about it. It was pretty good action-packed. I definitely missed seeing Jr. out there. But it's, I tell you, them Penske cars are the new, the new restrictor plates. I'm telling you. It was a good race. It was definitely a good race. I think it was a pency spotters.

You know. Well, yeah, when you got a good spotter jump ship, that's kind of what happens, I guess, huh? Yeah. You're going to any races this year, Bill? I... Hopefully, New Hampshire. That's about the closest one to me, so... I drink Mickleau, ultra.

See you there. How are you going to be from New York? Oh, I'm from upstate New York, but I'm going to go to Loudon. You got Watkins going right to your west there. New Hampshire's closer. Yeah. New Hampshire's all you're closer to me. Yeah.

Wow. I guess it's not as far as you think. With a newborn baby, it's kind of hard to go travel anywhere. Trust me. Get a hall pass, man. You deserve it. You've been doing all the work around there, I know. I mean, that's what guys do.

We pull all the weight. You know, we earn all the money. We keep the home fires burning, man. Hey, he'd be going. Hey, is it babysitting if it's your own kid? It is not. It is not babysitting. Hang up on him.

Yes. Hang up on him. You know, TJ, I love you, man, but I got to agree with bread on this one. You're still. You're still watching a kid. You're babysitting. It still counts. Bill, it's been real.

We'll see you in the afternoon. Thanks for the call, Bill. Thank you very much. Have a good one, guys. See you again. Oh, Bill. I want to know. Elliot is 200.

What turns you on? I want to know. Elliot is $200,000 richer. What is he doing with this money? Can you share? I don't know. It's a lot of money. It is a lot of money.

What would you do with $200,000? I mean, he's halfway. He's almost a quarter way to sponsoring a K&N car. Yeah. What would you do with $200,000? Yeah. If I gave you $200,000 cash, she probably has it.

Now you've got to realize. She probably has it already. You got to realize when you see a guy wins $100,000 that he doesn't get all that. Right, exactly. The team gets half. He gets half. Let's just say half. And then you have to pay taxes on that.

So now it's halft again. Oh, so he's sitting there with $75,000. Can we just start with $200? Okay, that sucks. Yeah. So let's just say, though, theoretically I walked in the day and said here's 200,000 cash, what would you do with it?

I'd pay off my mortgage because that sucks paying that. What mortgage? I own a house. You haven't moved in with Chad? Well, it's my house. I own it. Does he pay you rent? Yes. He does?

Well, it's okay, so this was a goal of mine. Now we're in Gage, it's a little different, but this was a goal of mine. She charges him rent, dude. Was a, I mean. She pays the mortgage. What the heck? A goal of mine was to own a house one day.

And so I saved up my money and bought a house. And this was before Chad and I were engaged. Now we're engaged and we're talking about all this like joint money stuff like that. Oh, yeah, that's fun. Don't join your money. Don't do it. Yeah. Don't join your money until you have kids.

Yours and a house account in the middle. Yes. Perfectly. Yes. You don't see his? He don't see yours. Nope. I agree with T.J.

I agree 100%. Until you have kids don't put your money together. Okay. Put your, pull your money together for those expenses and utilities and insurances and stuff. Mortgage utilities. And how all that stuff, you know, auto going in there. Well, we split. So we split the house because obviously it's like, we consider it ours, but it's in my name because I bought.

What is that going to change? I just never wanted to have the argument of where did you get them shoes from. Yeah. And I also never wanted to hear, oh, you're going out with your buddies again, drinking, going to beach, going golfing, you're going to ride jet skis? Is this something that you just feel? You're going snow skiing? How many times can you go to scores in a month, Brett? You're damn right, I am.

I guess who's money I'm going on? Mine. It's still mine. And that's still yours. If you want to go to what you want to do, please, dear God, go out of fun. Well, I will say Chad is pretty good about that. He does not question where I buy my shoes. You ain't got married yet.

Yeah. Let me tell you something, girl. I have a job, so he understands. I mean, when I don't have a job anymore, if I don't ever have a job anymore. Casey, you know what? You just live in this little. perfect nighty world. It's all going to be great. It's all going to be so easy. You're not going to have any fusses or fights about anything. I know we will. I mean, we definitely do. We're not perfect.

Should we like make one of them boards where you can buy a block and see what month it's going to be or how long it's going to be? Yeah, I'm just kidding. Yeah. I mean, at this point. Have you talked about him like taking over the mortgage yet? Um, we haven't yet, but I mean, I feel like we just got engaged. There's still about time to figure it all out. So, like, does he just give you cash for rent or what? We split it. Let's just say that. Equally.

So you have a mortgage and he's paying half your mortgage? I've always said, like, I want to be successful. I want to be able to make. I never thought I would get married. I was, like, single at the time. How old are you right now? I just turned 28. 28.

So the owner house, I feel like that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to be independent. I'm proud of you. Yeah. Thanks. I'm proud of you. Well, and then eventually I'll be a stay-at-home wife and go from there. Just go live in Billy Boats' house.

You know my boss heard me say that on the podcast because he listens to the podcast? Yeah, and he's like, so basically when you come in your review and say you're quitting because you want to be a stay-at-home wife, I'll just know what's coming. You can't be a stay-at-home wife. You can be a stay-at-home mom. You can't quit until you have a kid. Because that's called a lazy-ass millennial. Do you really think I'm going to quit? I don't even know what it is.

He obviously knew I was kidding. I hope your boss sees you and just says moist. $200,000. What do you do? I'll pay off your mortgage. Yeah, what do you do? I'm going to Vegas. Yeah, I mean, I'm probably doing something for fun.

I mean, just $200? No repercussions at all here? Yeah. Let's go. Um, and wait, because I know my boss is listening right now. I'm not quitting, I promise. What's your boss? I lose my mind if I quit.

Yeah, what's your boss is name? Who's your boss over there? Well, I have a, my VP, his name is Chris. And the other, my boss is Anna. Yeah. So if they're both listening, I promise I'm not quitting. I think I'll get too bored. Anna.

Yeah. Huh. Yeah. So I'm not quitting, guys. I promise before I get myself in trouble. Anything else you want to answer? about. What was that girl on that TV show on that movie Frozen?

Was that Anna? Yeah. Anna. It's Anna. It's Anna. Yeah. Anna. Anna.

She was the good one. Elsa was the mean one that had the fingers that could freeze everything. But then she was nice in the end. Who's hotter? Elsa or Anna? Depends. One's like the girl next door. Another one's like the hot one.

It's a crazy b***. Basically. Depends on your style. Elsa's like the crazy ass psycho girl. Yeah. Like the crazy one. Oh. The partier.

That's what you did with that. I'm on freezing and it's going to fall off. Else is the partier. But Anna did get engaged in one day. Yeah. So she's a . But poor girl. She just wants somebody ride our bike and run around the halls.

She just wants somebody to ride that in the castle walls. I think for the recap. I haven't seen it yet. Yeah. You've not seen Frozen? It's a classic. That's anti-American. You're a terrorist, Jason.

You got to go watch Frozen. I do not. I've seen Frozen. It's funny how we start off by saying he needs to go to a strip club to now you need to watch a Disney movie. Yeah, we need to have a weekend of scores. We'll rent scores and let them play Frozen. Actually, we can get Elsa to come dance for it. We could.

Yeah. There's a local Anna and Elsa that you can get. Like a character costume? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, you, you. For a birthday.

For a birthday party. So you know. Still, I will, Hey, I will say this. Your wife know about this?

She actually did it. Oh, I paid for it. I paid for it. But isn't that called an open marriage? It's called a fun marriage at least. Do you want to build a snowman?

Let it go. Let it go. Hey, that singing along at Disney is one of my favorite things. Disney does a lot of get stuff with it. Oh, we got to go. DBC picks. Who you got?

Dover, Delaware. The sleeper for all you fantasy players out there, the sleeper this weekend is AJ Almondinger. This is his best oval that he races on. No, Martin Zool would be. If his car's decent, he can be. Martin Zool is AJ's best track. He can do decent at Dover. I would think like a road course.

Did you hear what I said? I qualified the statement by saying oval. Sorry, I haven't got coffee this morning. Let me be. let it go um well I guess I will have to go with man I've used a lot of good guys though

I know I only got one guy that I'm using I know oh man well I need I want the lead again so I'm gonna go with Larson damn it I was hoping you I know but I was hoping you wouldn't pick him because I think he's going to win the race I'm going with Jimmy Johnson

he's got to turn it around he might as well do it now and if you can't win, I hope he can wreck Larson. So I can take the lead. Well, for all the fans who are going to do it for this weekend, we'll see you guys there. Yes. Tweet us if you want to say, hey, we'll figure out a way on race. Yeah.

We are around. Sunday morning is usually pretty chill. What times a cup race start, T.J. After our PubG match. Sunday, May 6th, 2. The cup race starts at 2 p.m. Or Friday or Saturday. You know, you never know.

Saturday. Friday night. casino, Saturday night casino, Sunday, not the casino. That's my plan. Just tool around there, play some blackjack. I'm there until Tuesday. I have to go to Philly. You do?

I'm not even going to be here next week. You suck. You're going to miss two out of three shows. But I've been to all the other ones. Oh, my God. And it's not for, if there were. Here's the puke button, man. Good Lord.

I'll be in Dover. That's what counts. It's been real. Yep. Thanks everybody for listening. Again, the T.J. Majors, winning spotter. Thank you for one mean, again, for sponsoring the podcast. And we like Chick-fil-A.

Anybody wants to send us, like, win-gifts or something? Biscuits and gravy today for some reason. Or if anybody wants to bring. Oh, that place is so good. Dude, biscuits and gravy from Sunup Cafe. Exit 301. Oh, and the new deal? Biscuits and gravy, dude.

They got the best. Hey, guess what, too? There's going to be a little surprise for Charlotte. Oh, I heard this on. Oh, boy. We can't tell anybody what it is yet. It has nothing to do with racing. Y'all will like it.

It's going to be a little surprise, and a bunch of people's going to get to have a real big time. I'm pretty excited about it. Yeah. I don't know exactly how this is going down, but when it comes out, it's going to be a big deal. Can't wait. All right. Thank you, guys. Have a great week.

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