Door Bumper Clear - Before You Blame Cody Ware, Tommy Wants To Speak

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

At risk of sounding like the well-overdone phrase from the Wizard of Oz, we're not in Kansas anymore — and the Door Bumper Clear crew probably couldn't be more glad about that. Freddie has read all of your tweets and messages, so he finally got his team owner to join the show! Sam Hunt, the owner of Dean Thompson & Harrison Burton's NOAPS ride, comes in to tell his story of going from driver to owner, how that transition happened, and what the day-to-day of his job looks like. After hearing from Sam, he joins in with the gang in reacting to the big moments from the race weekend at Kansas, including: Carson Kvapil's big flip, Corey Day's misstep & Cody Ware's race-changing spin out. In Spot On, Spot Off, we cover: - Denny Hamlin & Kyle Busch's back and forth stemming from Action Detrimental - The 11's lane choice for the final restart - Austin Hill's comments about the incident with Jesse Love - Is Ford falling behind? Our race fans teed off on the field in Reaction Theatre, although there was a common theme amongst them all... In S*** Show Hall of Fame, Bowman Gray rears its ugly head for the first time this season, and we don't expect it to be the last time this year. During Ask DBC, Sam Hunt answers questions about his moments that make him take it all in and what band tee he would wear if he could only wear one. And last but not least, everyone goes around and makes their picks for Talladega, shouts out their weekend winners, and teases a possible guest that Tommy might miss next week — stay tuned! Go get your DBC crew uniform at shop.dirtymomedia.com and tag us on social media in your favorite merch! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. What if we left all the spotters out of everything? That's a terrible idea. What page are we on? Why you cursed that? This is why I'm just you cursing to me. I think he's a whiny. That's what I think.

Next thing you know, I got no fire suit on. Routy nation fans are getting lucky tonight. Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome back to Door Bumper Clear. I'm Freddie Craft, spotter for Bubba Wallace, Dean Thompson this week. Thank God I wasn't spotting for Gio Regiro. Tommy, how are you today?

Tommy, how was your, could your weekend have been any worse this weekend? No. Thank God Jack didn't race anywhere. Yeah, no. You want to just move on? Let's get going on this show. Yeah, let's talk about it all. Carson, how are you today?

I'm great. Had a chill weekend. Watch Wyatt race at Tri-County. We have a fantastic guest in the house today. I don't really understand why. The last couple of years, people have been begging me to get my car on our on the show. And I don't know what the big deal is, but Sam Hunt, here you are. Jesus, Freddie.

The guy does pay you. I don't know. I mean, everybody's been just clamoring. We need your car owner on DBC. And I'm like, all right, I'll get him on here. Sam, you want to come in? Yesterday, they seemed upset. There's some other guy that I guess they meant MJ, but, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sam, how are you today, buddy? I'm good. Thanks for having me, guys. I figured it was maybe a slow week if you were, you were bringing me out of the bullpen, a B-grade Grand National. team owner. Grand National.

That's good. So, no, it's cool to be here. Yeah, we talked about this for a couple of years about you coming on. And just this is finally, it's actually worked out. Talk about your, your background in racing. You know, I know we're going to get in a lot of your story. Your story is maybe one of the more wild ones of car owners status, at least. But, you know, family background with people, anybody else in your family involved racing growing up?

No, not at all. You know, my family was more of a football family. My dad was a football player through college. really no racing in our blood anywhere. We lived in the Netherlands when I was four to nine and living over there, every kid plays soccer and races, shifter carts. So I started racing at five or six in carts overseas and kind of caught the racing bug there. Really had no knowledge of NASCAR.

Like back, that was probably late 90s, early 2000s. It really wasn't broadcasted a ton. over there at the time. But yeah, I had no racing history in my family. I mean, my family really still isn't a racing family. And when we moved back over here, stayed in carts and then, you know, got into having my own late model stock car and K&N car and kind of tried to race a little bit.

Myself, very much not talented enough to make it. And situationally, I was just very very, real with what my odds were to make it as a race car driver. So, you know, we made a connection with J.D. Gibbs, you know, years ago, my dad had a football connection with J.D. through his college days at William and Mary. So, you know, when my interest in racing grew, that was kind of the only relationship, you know, me or my family had with the sport. And I got to know J.D. a little bit. and he was just an extremely special guy that I recognized even at 17 years old when you're just really not mature and you don't retain as much as maybe you do now.

But he was really special in a sense of how he knew all of his people and he knew everybody on his shop floor. There was just something that struck me at an age that you really don't get struck by much on the sentimental, you know, why, you know, we're doing whatever we do with our life. But yeah, I went to college, went to VCU, studied finance, which makes me the biggest idiot you probably ever had on this show. That's not doing a lot of good. So I graduated college and had a few.

That shit. Not at all. Not at all. So, yeah. There is no checks and bound nuts. No. I graduated. and had some opportunity in the real world,

which probably would have made me a little bit better living and a little more comfort. But my heart's always been in racing and competing. So, you know, I told my now wife, Noel, we were, we had just started dating and I was about to graduate college and we were watching TV having a beer. And I just said, hey, what do you think if I, you know, what do you think about me starting my own race team?

and we laughed about it. And, you know, she was the first one to say, hey, like, you know, we're early 20s. You know, there's a 1% chance any of this will work out. At least that was my opinion. But I'd be really upset if I never tried. Yeah. So, you know, I had, I think, one old K&N car, which was a nationwide car from the storage bay of JGR. still had the Shore Lodge logo on it from Brian Scott.

And yeah, I moved. So it was wrecked when you got it? Everything I've gotten has been wrecked. But yeah, I, you know, had some relationships in Virginia. The Shane Lockhart, Peyton Sellers, had some short track people that looked after me and ended up just deciding to move here. I had a Dodge Sprinter van that I packed up and drove it down here with my car. The Robert Yates engine shop right here in Moresville was gracious enough to give me the corner of their machining area to set up my car and my van. And, you know, it just started with a car and some tools.

And, you know, there was no real place to stay. I didn't really know anyone. You know, I wasn't, like I said, I don't come from this world. So, you know, I wasn't familiar with the people. Was able to hire one guy, Clinton Cram. I'm sure you know Clinton, you know, Jack of All Trades, former DEI guy. You know, he's one of the few employees that has yelled at me a lot as an employee.

You know, like there were times because it was just me and him wrenching on this East car. And I didn't, you know, I knew the, you know, the basics. but he had raced a lot longer than me. But yeah, it started in the corner of that Yates building. And to be where we're at now, as much as I'm always, you know, we always talk about how we take the next step and we continue to improve. I should have never gotten to this point.

So it's also a big blessing and testament to a lot of really good people in this sport. because like I said, I'm not very smart. I'm not super talented. I've just put myself around some really good people. Well, that's key. And here I am. So, yeah. Obviously, at some point, you have to make the decision to stop driving.

I mean, you go O'Reilly racing at the time was probably Xfinity, I would assume. But how to, no, when he went, it was Bush. It's a great national. Grand National series. I'm actually 70 years old. The team ownership is. Exponentially. Times 10.

Just look at my hair. You know, how hard is it to make that decision to give up driving and just go to full-time in ownership? Yeah, I think my personality made it a little bit easier. I'm very much a realist and I don't have a ton of pride. And, you know, my, I was very lucky and, you know, racing K&N when I did 2012 when Bubba was racing and Larson was racing and Chase picked the absolute worst year to dip into that with that very humble operation. But it was also good for me because racing, you know, around a Larson or Blaney or those guys just showed me very quickly the level of talent. It was going to

take to just organically make it to where I wanted to be in the sport. And I was okay with that. you know, I didn't want to, you know, push sponsors or family or anyone to, you know, support something that didn't really have a realistic end goal. So I just said, hey, let me figure out how to stay in the sport and do what I love, but in a more, I say more reasonable. It's not more reasonable. But what I thought at the time was a little more reasonable. But it's hard because I think your identity and, you know, I talk about a lot of these young drivers or, drivers that, you know, come up through and might not have what it takes to get to Sunday, you know, your whole identity is a race car driver, you know, from carts all the way through,

you know, being a teenager and into your early 20s, like, if it comes your identity and you know everyone sees you as that, whether you're, you know, your top dog or you're just a local racer, It's like that's what your family supports. It's what everyone knows. So I think a lot of these guys, you know, struggle with identity a little bit when you pull the racing component out of their life. So, you know, I was I was pretty grateful like doing college and just going to business school and kind of leaving the racing bubble for a few years and just experiencing the

world outside of the sport. I think helped me a lot, you know, coming back into. at this role. Yeah. You know, I mean, Tommy fought a lot of these same battles, but, you know, we don't get a lot of car owners that sit here. And we talk about on this show a lot of times the balance between money and talent. And obviously, you want to get both, but that's kind of hard to find. How much, I mean, because we've had conversations. I mean, I know there's guys you have turned down that have money to want to come drive your race car, but there are probably somebody that you know you're going to put in your race car and it's probably not going to come back in one piece. How hard is that to balance where you need. You need. You money to obviously stay in business and operate, but you also want to put somebody talented enough in your race cars to perform and make your stuff look good. Yeah, I mean, I think it's the hardest part about this sport. And I think coming from other sports, too, it's like a dynamic that you don't quite see in the same way in other places. And, you know, for me, you know, just to run an O'Reilly team at the level we're racing at, which, you know, we're an independent team. We're

not affiliated with a cup shop, but I feel like we are one of the stronger, strongest independent teams. The cost to do that is just, you know, Tommy, you know, you guys know, like it's just so high and it keeps climbing. So, you know, for me, it's like, you know, how do we find a situation where, you know, there's, there's sponsorship that's going to allow us to keep growing, but also potential in a driver that maybe we can exploit something out of them that, you know, nobody's really seen yet. But it's really, really difficult. And, you know, it keeps me up late at night.

You know, when I had one employee and payroll was one guy. It's funny. That Clinton, he was working in a body shop part time and then coming, you know, I'd do all the busy work and then he'd come over. So, you know, that's why he was yelling. Yeah. What is that? Oh, yeah.

What the hell did you do? Yeah, my first pull-down rig was like a shock ram that you, you know, you bought. That's what you started with. So, you know, it's just once you have, you know, we've got probably 30, you know, people over there for, you know, two, two O'Reilly programs. And, you know, it's real, it's real business, you know, it's not, it's not what it was when it started. And for me, taking care of my people and their family. is just paramount. And, you know, I think this sport, the only equity you can build as your reputation.

And, you know, when you burn that, it's really hard to get it back. So it is a really tough balance. And I think, you know, Dean was an example of a guy last year that was down on confidence and pretty unproven. And, you know, we were, you know, we had our reservations bringing them in. But as far as last year goes, I felt like we were both very. you know, pleasantly surprised in what he was able to do, you know, almost made the playoffs in his his rookie year and, you know, just kind of showed these guys, you know, some of them thrive in a

smaller environment where, you know, they get a little bit more, you know, it's more of their team versus one of five guys. You get more direct guidance and influence. Yeah, yeah. How far ahead do you allow yourself to look? I mean, I know we joked around about the other day and You said, we're hope the shops here in 30 years. But, I mean, realistically, like how far? I mean, are you year to year? Or, I mean. Yeah, I mean, when I started, I was like meal to meal.

How many Mondays have you woken up and go, how am I going to get to the end of the day? I mean, people need to understand how hard it is. I mean, you've mentioned it's taking care of the families and your employees. I mean, yes, it was number one on my side too. But those Monday mornings when you woke up and go, how am I going to figure this out, man? and how am I going to get to the next race? I mean, I don't think many people understand that, you know? Yeah, and it's, I'm glad you say that,

because it's almost a conversation that you can't really have with people that haven't lived it. Nobody. Not even your wife sometimes because you don't want to, you know, you don't want to, unfortunately, my wife was working the books and stuff so she could see it. But, you know, you had to, and to show up with a smile and the confidence and what you needed to be done, but inside, man, you are like, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, there's just pressure coming from all sides all the time. You know, as far as a business, it's so hard to make it work. Like I tell people all the time, you know, if I took my business on Shark Tank and presented it, they'd ball it up and throw it in my face. So if I didn't have the passion I have for this and for the people and for the racing, it'd be extremely hard for me to do this. And I think sometimes you will see people come in because they think it looks fun or cool and, you know, they want to own a team and they, you know, they have, you know,

successful, you know, other business or, or, you know, whatever. And you get into it and realize it's, it's not quite what you think it is with what you see on the racetrack. I mean, there's seven days in between that, like you said, I wake up all the time, just staring at the ceiling. Yeah. And again, I think in like a sick way, I love that challenge and I love kind of having my back up against the wall and having to think about these things. I think now I think further ahead than I did. Obviously, you know, years ago, I think for a while it was year to year. And it probably still is. But, you know, I think I'm thinking further ahead than I ever have in my spot. and I just hope that's not a fool's errand

because this can all be taken away from us really quick, whether you're a driver or an owner. So, yeah, I think I think into the next few years. Yeah. And to your point, like, Freddie's just wondering about job security. Yeah, yeah, I got to start looking. You know, but like, you talk about, you know, wondering and stuff.

There's been times where I'll get a phone call from Sam and I'm like, what the hell is he calling me for? And it's just like, hey, bud, I just need to talk today. Like, I just need to get some shit off my chest. And I'm like, hey, buddy, I'll stop by the shop. I'll be there in a minute. Yeah. And it, you need that.

Like, you need those outlets. And even with my wife, you know, she's not, she's not really involved. And, you know, it's become a good thing for us and for me that, you know, she doesn't have some expectation on me financially or with the team or, you know, she, you know, for her, it's like, hey, you're a good husband. I'll live in a trailer or I'll live in a house on a lake, but like you can't let this stuff ruin who you are. And so I've been really lucky to have a, you know, a partner through this whole journey that has no expectation on, you know, where it goes. Yeah. Before we move on to this weekend, as a whole this season, I mean, I feel like we've been

okay. We've had some stakes at the end of the races that cost us good finishes. The poor 24 car's been just snake-bitten all year. I mean, obviously not meeting expectations at this moment for both of us, honestly. But, you know, how do we move forward from here? And, like, what's your expectations of the guys in the shop and me and... Jesus, we're not in the fucking conference room right now, Freddie. What happened? It's a Monday morning. They're doing that post-race. I mean, this is what we have to drive. So, I was like, as the owner. Like, how do we, how do you guys approach turning it around? Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good question. And I think for us,

It's, you know, our process has probably been better than it's ever been. I feel like our race cars are prepared further ahead than they've ever been. And I feel really good about the people we have in place. I mean, you guys know a lot of the guys that work at our shop. I think it's just, and Freddie, we talked about it last week. It's like, you know, executing, managing expectations and, you know, not pulling ourselves out of races trying to get more than. and we're capable of right now.

You know, I think this, the O'Reilly series, I've been in it for six years, and it's never been this strong. It's hard, man. And, you know, as a, as an independent, I feel like I'm one of the only independent teams left, really in the area we race. There's been a top 20.

A lot of guys that are now, you know, hoss cars or RCR cars that, you know, we managed to probably beat every week. last year. So, you know, I think for us, it's, it's kind of not, not losing sight of, you know, the process we have because we're showing up to the racetrack, you know, mechanically sound. You know, we're getting through tech really well. You know, I think it's just like the small mistakes this year with, with how the field is, you know, one small mistake, you just can't recover from like maybe you could in the past. And, you know, for us, when, when we give up,

spots, whether it's on, you know, make a mistake on the racetrack or pit road, you're not just going to go grab them back. So I think for us right now, and we had a good start with it in Kansas, with you guys running as good as you did. It's just, man, just execute every week. And if we just run right there, you know, we're going to have the days where we, you know, run in the top five or have better opportunities. It's just tough. Yeah, I mean, we can talk about our race this weekend was, you know, last week, Dean was kind of down on himself. And I think we all kind of just got together and we were like, you know, let's get in a room and talk about it because sometimes I just think Dean puts this heavy weight on himself that he needs to carry everything. And, you know,

and it's on, he shouldn't do that because we're all in this together. And we just kind of, like you said, we just kind of beat in his head. Like, if we just execute, I don't, I said, point blank told him in the meeting. I said, Dean, I don't care where you finish. I said, as long as you execute all race, don't make any mistakes. We have a clean pit stop. We're going to run on the top 15. I feel like if you can find yourself in the top 20 at the end of stage two on the lead lap, you're going to have a good day. You know, you're going to be able to find a good finish, especially as good as our cars have been. And that's what we did this week.

You know, he ran top 12 all race long, essentially. You know, he hovered around the top 10 and just executed all day long. There was no mistakes. Pipp stops were much better. You know, we were just kind of put it all together for one week and show you what, you don't show kind of what the team's table of. And that's all I tried to beat in Luke's head all week, you know. I did.

I mean, just just execute, run the laps. learn green flag pit stops, do all the things you need to do. And then what happened? Just somebody made a left on him. Yeah, that was, you know, it was right behind us, and I saw the 07 spin. And you could clearly tell he just could, I don't know if he didn't know Luke was there or he didn't care that Luke was there. But he clearly came from the wall and hooked the left like he was going to go to run the

bottom of one and two. And Luke was, you know, up to his quarter pound at least. And I didn't know who it was. I just saw the 07 spin. And then I saw a cargo up and hit the wall. And I looked up. And I was like, oh, no. like it's just snake pit right now

I'm sure kind of right front tire I assume yeah when he hit when he run into him I felt like Harrison kind of carried the banner early this year to in the sense of like anything that can happen is going to happen I don't think those guys ran a pit stop to like the fourth race third race

you know with just all the all the incidents on the racetrack and now I feel like you know he's being snake big in the same way and just can't catch a bit you know can't catch a break but But, you know, he still carries himself well. He's a great kid.

He's talented. Like, you know, I've been there, and I know he'll get on the other side of it. All right, quick question. How many drill bits have you guys snapped just by trying to finish one job? Yeah, same for me. Nothing kills you momentum faster. That's why I like hand-cut drill bits. They're American-made, family-owned, and pros have trusted them for many years.

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If I was spotting for him, we probably wouldn't have harpooned that poor girl down the front straightaway for no reason. That did happen. That did happen. I don't know what he was doing there. I mean, he won the race. I don't know how that plays out. But, yeah, I was.

She had a hell of a save, though. Not his proudest moment. She finished top top. And like when he spun her, she had a hell of a save. Yeah. Yeah, I thought she did a really good job. I thought all three, well, four girls, did a really good job. I mean, what's her name?

Lany and Jade, they drove their asses off, man. I mean, they were top six cars all day long. Yeah, I mean, it's good to see. I mean, Lany kind of surprised me a little bit. I mean, she ran well in the cars to herself. Last year, she did the same thing last year. I didn't see much of it last year. but, you know, she was passing Gio.

Yeah. She was getting ready to go. She was, like, a lot of bad shit happen. Like, she just would have, Lainey would have unfortunate shit happen to her, I think, really last year is all it chalked up to for cars tour. Because even when, like, I remember there was one race that she wrecked super early on and then, I mean,

drove back through the field with her whole front of her hood gone. Those two are serious players moving up. They are. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Cleetus and Squirrel. One thing.

I guess again Cletus blew up running 10th I think I think Squirrel ended up He was 14th Yeah I don't know where he finished 14th Can you fill me in

Squirrel? Squirrel McNut Squirrel McNus That's what he's So what's the connection Is he part of Cletus? Yeah

He's part of like the entourage there And I mean they race All things together So Yeah And he does I mean

He does a pretty good job For not having any Experience whatsoever He's where he's supposed to be Learning Yeah Yeah But the one thing

that drove me crazy on television was putting Cletus and Squirrel on the ticker. I saw them. Yeah, but that's how everybody knows him, right? I mean, that's how it might as well go. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, what are we doing here? There's probably people turning it on, like, who's Garrett Mitchell? The best part of the whole

thing was Hosevar and him in the interview. Yeah, I was going to go around those guys. Talking about the two goofiest people talking and having fun, right? I was like, God, oh, right, this is the world we're in now. I did want to give a shout out to Jack Wood. Poor kid was going to win his first race right up until Geo took care of that for him.

And then he got hooked on the back straightaway. It looked like, I don't know, looked like he maybe came up on somebody. But Jack, the Jack's a really good kid. I was kind of pulling for him to get that win. But unfortunately, but that 28 car, I mean, whoever gets in it just hauls ass. Huffman and Stevo got that thing dialed in over there. Yeah, Steveo. I miss him on the car store.

Shout out to Gavin Bouchel, right? He ran top five all day, right? He ran good. He ran the high limit race too? Yeah, I don't know where he finished, though. I've seen some pictures of it. He was having spelling issues. And the group checks?

Yeah, yeah, he didn't know how to spell Wednesday. And there was a lot of things going on. Oh, man. O'Reilly. Taylor Gray kind of sneaks went out at the end there, kind of short pit, got the lead, held on. Hirschman was kind of going crazy in lap traffic, yelling to people, which was fun to watch. Get out of the one.

I need you to start recording just for me because you guys get to see it like in the flesh that I want to witness it too. Garst Couple, upside the hell down. I'm not... Look, a lot of stuff happened in turn one. Yeah.

And I know we've been harping on throwing cautions and stuff, but Luke was in the wall. Right? And the 07 was a self-spin, yeah, but there was guys up in the wall. If they did throw that caution, none of that would have happened. Yeah.

Right. And look, it's the first problem was the problem, right, on turn one. And then I'm seeing a car flip. I'm like, I thought the caution would have been out. But I don't know, man. I don't think. I was, I almost, I mean, I was late. I was late calling the flip because I'm looking at the NASCAR radios have not been great for us to monitor NASCAR this year.

So sometimes they drop out. Sometimes they don't. Well, I see those. like I said, it was right behind us. So I see the 07 spin. I see Luke go up and hit the wall. And I'm telling Dean, I'm like, they're wrecking behind you. Just stay green.

Stay green for now. And I'm got one eye on Dean, one eye kind of peeking down at the yellow lights waiting for them to change. And I'm like, nothing's happening. I look up and there is a fucking car flipping down the back straight away. I'm like, oh shit, check out, you know. But yeah, like to your point, it was, it should have been thrown. That should have been a caution.

I mean, it wasn't a result of not throwing the yellow. It just coincidentally happened at the same time. But it was a really. result not throwing a yellow. But I'm just saying it wasn't because like somebody slowed down and other guys didn't. No, no, right. It was, if they weren't still green. If they threw the yellow, like it would have prevented that.

But it wasn't a result. But it was, it should have been a yellow. And I think, and I think at the end of the day, all you guys is talking about it. Right. So I think it kind of like when you guys are talking about it to the drivers and the crew chiefs, it kind of gives you a little, like all of a sudden you go from like, okay, there might be a caution. You never know what goes on right there.

So I think, I think that. was not a good call. Yeah. I mean, and listen, we can kill one of the spot on spot off right here, but, you know,

I saw people bitching yesterday that they threw the yellow at the end of the race when Cody spun. You know, that should have been a yellow, I thought. He spun in front of the leaders

as they're bearing down on him. I, you know, Sam has a race car driver or, you know, or an owner with your race car out there, you know, do you not want them to do, I mean, I know we'd be,

at Daytona, it felt like a single car spin was never getting the yellow flag for whatever reason. Atlanta was kind of similar. That's fine, but not when his car is up in the wall. Yeah. But, you know, but like in that instance, I mean, I think you agree that should have been a probably was a dervite deservedly yellow.

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, as a racer, you know, you just, you want consistency and, you know, I think safety too. You know, whether it's a massive problem or not. Like I know we were watching the 07 spin from the pit box to the point to where we had no idea. the one was rolling. They thought I was an idiot. They thought I was an idiot. I'm like, he started yelling flipping and we were watching the OSSA.

I was like, no, he's not. He's sliding. Are you? What an idiot. This guy is? That'll be a separate conversation. But then it just cut to the one mid-roll and was like, oh, my gosh. Which we were followed the entire time, naturally.

Chase the down the racetrack. Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I think you just, want consistency there, or at least that's what I would want. I thought the spin at the end of the cup race was warranted and, you know. Well, it was warranted, but it wasn't warranted. We'll get into that in a little bit. Yeah.

There was one thing I did notice in that race, Tommy, and I think it got foreshadowed the day before with one of the guys. Corey Day gets in the back of Sammy Smith. I had no helicopter today. It was just seems, just Sam's out there. I don't know if you saw it's homemade. It's homemade. It's got wood propellers.

It's not. DIY. But, you know, Corey gets in the back of the eight, turns him, almost hits us again. That was another one we just barely missed. But, you know, you're building up your stock here. Yeah, I'm doing. Yeah. Did you do that one too?

Without me. You already saw me call out of the wrong car flipping over. But, you know, I think Sammy maybe saw this coming a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, he mentioned, I've overheard him mention that it. kind of getting a little rough out there again, you know. And, I mean, it wasn't with, I mean, Day wasn't sitting there. We were all at lunch and he was just saying, man, he's just, it's happening a little bit again.

I can see it, you know, and then of course he's the one. Yeah, he's the guy to deal with it. Yeah, I don't know. Like, again, I can't imagine Corey has done any of these things like maliciously. No, yeah. I just think it's just racing hard, but he's got to slow again, man, slow down a little bit. Yeah, he just, I mean, and he unfortunately just gets in the back of the eight, turns him. I don't remember if he got more damage along the way or not, but, you know, just can't have those mistakes.

He can run 75% with that car and finish in the top eight. 75%, right? He can run 75% of the race and go 100 and probably win. What he really needs to do is just stop spinning out the guys. His teammates. His teammates are the one. I feel like it's a lot of defenders off it. We would greatly appreciate that.

the toe, you know. I feel like what frustrated, I mean, probably everyone, but, you know, with Corey, like in Atlanta, when we all wrecked on lap, you know, two or three, you know, I think is like a racer that never had that opportunity, or, you know, I'd say 99% of people won't have an opportunity to be in a race car like that. It's just, you know, when you make those moves, like understanding, you know, when you do wipe a bunch of guys out, you know, just kind of understanding how much has gone into, you know, even them being in the position they're in, you know, and I don't know. I've never felt like

he's been malicious with, you know, these incidents. It's just, you know, you don't want them too much at your own expense. I mean, I felt the same way Saturday. You know, Bliqi doesn't, Billickey never does anything wrong. I mean, that guy's a good race car driver. You put him into some decent stuff. He'll run good, right? I mean, he's proven sometimes with us in the Cup series in the past. It's just, same deal, man. You put a lot into that, man. You just, you just want everything to go good, right? It's just important, right? And just lap to something like that happened. It's like, man, who's fault? I want to know whose fault it is, right? What did the spotter say? What, you know, what, did he say everything right to him?

Did he, you know, did he know? I mean, what's going on? It's just, just aggravating. And To happen early and to do things and just, I know, man, I know you feel. The spotters never do. Never do. I watch you. I'm up there. They don't know if you ask. What you're talking about. Oh, gosh. All right. Cup race, Tyler Reddick. What's, uh, what do they have up their sleeve, Freddie? When are you going to start? When are you going to start bringing that shit over to the 23? I don't know. I will hopefully we find it soon. Yeah, it turns out

You ran good all day. Yeah, I mean, but we We didn't have anything for him. We were a fourth to fifth place car. I felt like we, Bubba was really confident in the middle of the race. We were running sixth or seventh and he was like, if I get track of position, this car can win the race. And we got up there and we drove to fourth on a restart

and it was the 20, the 11, and the 45. And I think we realized pretty quickly that we were a fourth place car at that point. But obviously that's not bad. It's a good day to have. And we ran consistently up there all day long, clean race. But Tyler is just, I mean, Sam, he's driven your cars before. I mean, how impressive is this guy? Yeah, he's, man, he's funny.

He's just a machine. And, you know, it's funny because, like, his personality is unique. And he's, you know, such a good kid in his own way. But I feel like whether it's racing or any sport confidence, is just paramount and just so valuable. You see him walking now? Yeah. Some bitch thinks he's like 6'4.

Yeah. He's not. I know. Yeah. I mean, he just, I know. Look at his some bitch. And it's great.

And I just think that's like the most valuable weapon you can have. And, you know, someone like him knowing he can and should win every single week. It's, I don't know, it's like you just watch guys like that or, you know, Corey in the truck series, like they're just a magnet to the front. and it doesn't matter the situation. They just, they get there. Obviously, they're doing a great job, and that car's really, really strong.

And I know you guys have a good team, too. I mean, Charles, like, just some really great people. But, man, Tyler's confidence has just got to be a huge component to what he's doing. Absolutely. Helps the boss man's there damn near every week these days. I think he's going to take a little summer break coming up. But, like, you know, it means a lot to those guys

when he got out of car and see Michael Jordan standing there. to greet you. You reminded how tall Tyler is. They should have stayed on the doortop. Blaney, poor Blaney. Pick crew finally busts off an eight-second pit stop, and he just needed a little slower one to get out of the box clean. You know, I think of, I seen Bozzie tweet.

He had like an eight-six pit stop, and he left the box and drives into the 16 and pretty much ruins his day. We never saw him again. I assume they must have damaged a splitter. That's 16's fault. It's a 16th's fault. you as a crew chief need to pay attention to that understanding that you're in the back

the guy's getting ready to leave if he's the jack drops you're going to have to be prepared to stop it's that's I mean that's just a it's a where they screw up because it was a green flex cycle so it you know they probably just need to run another lap you know what I mean right? Because he was probably I would assume he's two stalls ahead maybe

two or three stalls ahead of him so you don't really think about it I guess but you need to stay out of You got to stay out running on the lap there, right? When you're getting ready to pit, you're looking at the teams who have the tires and the guns and on the wall. Two stalls front and back at least. And you got to know and you got to notify them guys that, man, I'm coming in now. Yeah.

And then it's on you. It's like, man, okay, he told me, I have to, now it's my responsibility not to wreck that guy's problem. Now, if we're fighting for first and second, that's a little bit different story, right? but if I'm running 30th and I'm running 8th at the time, right, it's got to give these guys a little respect. Yeah. And it's one lap makes a big difference too. Like I say just you should know they run on the lap.

It was two seconds. But yeah. I mean, we had that at, I think it was Coda. You know, we were pitted next to the 47. And I look up at Eric Holmes and spots for the 47. I'm like, we're pitting this time. And he's like, so are we. And I'm like, oh, shit.

Like we're, and we were running, I don't know, top 10. and I don't know where they were at, probably not that good. And I said, Magic Mike's been on the last couple weeks, man. Don't get on to 47. No, no, no. I was just saying that road course. Ricky, Ricky Roadcourse. Probably not.

But, you know, but Mike, when he relayed the message of Mike that we were coming, the 47 stayed out and ran another lap. You know, and that's just the way, you know. That's what's supposed to happen. I just felt like poor Blaney's snake bit, you know. We kind of been fighting similar issues, I feel like. And, you know, you finally get a good pit stop, 8,6. Yeah, hell yeah, with New Jackman, and you go to leave the box and fuck here comes somebody. And now that ruins your day.

Like, just talk about, you know, shit that can go wrong. But I mean, yeah, I mean, we had a horrible, I think it was two or three years ago. We were at Homestead running, you know, eighth or ninth, having a good day. And the green flag cycle started, you know, and there was a car, you know, in a stall behind us that was struggling all day. And had, you know, we pitted off sequence or a lap or two after. And they, like, couldn't get the tire on. They couldn't, you know, they couldn't figure it out. And we, you know, we look over to them and just kind of say, hey, we're coming.

Just stay put. And they give us the thumbs up. And like clockwork, as soon as we turn in our stall, they gas up and boom, day over. And you just, I don't know, you want to, you almost want to fight at that point. But, yeah, those situations are pretty deflating. I had to give a shout out to both of my other teammates. obviously Tyler won, but Riley, I thought, had a really good race, ran, drove into the top 10 at one point, kind of ran inside the top 15,

I think all race, Corey was really good. I think the two of them might have been running into each other a little bit out there. They had a bad pit stop and went from 12th to the end of the last of the lead lap cars, and he couldn't rebound from there. He just could get to a certain point. Tires wear out, and then he was done and would fall back, you know, trying. But, yeah, they were, again, it's hard doing a part-time. deal right with with guys that aren't doing it every week that you know you know they're building the whole

program right you know what they got going on it's just like those are the kind of things they're gonna bite them this year you know those small little things but you know obviously yeah i mean i even thought cori you know qualified 24th going he went out first and he went out first and that's like you know something i don't think the the average person understands is is the deficit you're under when when when you do go out first or you're in those first few cars. I mean, there's almost a, you know, there's a line you're probably not going to cross no matter how good your lap is. So, you know, I thought he did a good job there too.

That was something we brought up last week with Dean, you know, talking about, you know, we were, there's a couple of these races where we were running in the top 15 or just outside of top 15 and something happens. And we end up finishing 25th. And now that sets you so much further back in the metric. And now it just kind of snowballs to where now you qualify like shit. now you're digging your way out of that all again. I just don't think it.

I hate that it's like that. I hate that the previous week determines everything what goes on the next week. It's just, I don't think it's fair, right? I mean, I think it's a new week, right? You go out there and you practice, you know, and you go on practice speeds, and that's how you should. But then there's so many things that can go on during that practice. And then, you know, the things that we could do,

and the more money that you spend, it's like, you know, to get that one lap to be. able to go out last. I mean, it's just, we're in such a box. And NASCAR has to do such a good job of keeping us, you know, rained in of not doing that stuff. You know, it's like, you're mad there and then you think about that on the business side. How much would it cost you to do that? And all the things you would have to do to unload right in qualifying mode and spend that money and get it sneakily out of it during practice. I mean, it's just like, fuck, I don't know what they do. It's never ending. And, you know, but you're right, it does compound.

You know, when you do have a bad finish, you know, it just, it carries over and it can keep compounding if you can't get yourself out of it. Especially, you know, you go to Martinsville or Vegas or somewhere where we start qualifying it at 6 o'clock or 6.30. And, you know, the first half goes, you know, with sunlight and, you know, the back 20 go with, with moonlight. Like, you're just, you're not going to, you're not going to beat your way through there. Yeah. Do you want to tell me now Why you fucked my boss over yesterday? I mean

Yeah, I mean I know Cody's getting a lot of flack But I'm It's my fault Right? At the end of the day it's my fault I mean that's what I get paid to do Not for him to make any mistakes

And Um We would just beat down man We run like shit all weekend We unloaded like shit We race like shit We did the drive around On the third stage

Try hopefully get a caution, get a lap back, try to get with, you know, the three or four guys that we can maybe race again. We were just deflated, man. We were all done, and it's, I'm taking the blame because I should have just said, you know what, I'll gamble lost, let's just come and put tires on and not make any mistakes, and I cause any problems because, man, it's an unwritten rule. You know, I feel in the garage area, you do not want to change, be part of change in

any outcome of the race, no matter what it is. I don't care if it's a manufacturer or whatever. You do not want to do that. I mean, again, it's all about respect and, you know, just – and I hate it because I'm sitting on the plane and go, man, I could have did one thing. I could have just come over to radio and, you know, told Jerry, I said, let's just pit. Let's just take our medicine with four tires on it. It's two seconds off the pace already.

Let's just do it. And we would just beat up, man. I was just sitting there. I was done. And shame on me for losing focus on the whole – the whole thing. And, yeah, I'm taking the blame, to be honest with you. Yeah, I mean, you talk about how far off the pace he is.

He is just hanging on. Yeah. I saw him. I didn't know if a tire went down because I saw him getting a fence in the front stretch. No, that was because the seven blew a tire. And the seven was on the end up and blew a tire. And right front tire. That's what happened.

And that could have caused some of it. You know, I don't know. But I seen the time, man. I know better, right? I mean, shit, I don't even think we were going to minimum speed anymore. I should have just said, bring him in, let's just put tires on it. And that's what I got paid to do to keep him safe, right? I mean, you know better that you're a spotter, right?

We stay out of everybody's way when we get in life. We're probably one of the best cars of staying out of everybody's way, not causing a fight for anybody, doing the best we can. You know, I know we're in that position a lot, unfortunately. But we've had a bad couple weeks, man. We have unloaded like shit the last two weeks. And I don't, we don't even know why. I mean, we're following everybody that we can follow.

I mean, I know that cars aren't running good either. Well, I mean, you know, I congratulated Austin Dillon last night because that kid is fighting. For what I know what's going on, that kid is fighting his ass off to finish where he's finishing every week. And I told him, I said, man, you're carrying this, man. You've got to keep that attitude because Austin's attitude is going to help. Kyle's attitude's not, right? Austin's attitude is going to help change the direction of what they got going on. And it's tough right now, man.

you know, we got to get better. And, you know, it's my fault. End of the day. Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think.

Send it. Why me? Denny Hamlin should have stayed in his lane about Kyle Bush, who responded to Denny Hamlin's comment to, quote, unquote, carry it better by saying I will switch cars with him any day of the week. Spot on, spot off. Tell me what you think. What was wrong with Denny saying what he said?

That's kind of what Denny. I mean, Denny tweeted yesterday and said, you know, I mean, I have a podcast where I have to talk about, you know. Forget about the podcast. He's asked the question. I mean, he knows exactly. Like, look, Denny's been lucky enough in his career not to have to struggle much, right? I mean, he's been in a good position his whole racing career. He started right into running his ass off.

right in the beginning, right, the first race. I remember him showing up with the 20 car, I think it was a Rockwell car, Darlington, and right in the Gibbs car and was fast. I mean, so he's been in a good position, but that's what you're supposed to do. He's supposed to put yourself in a good position, right? And look, Kyle has taken himself out of those positions

and putting him in his position. I'm sorry, man, I've watched it, right? I mean, he's had the Hendrick rides. He's had the Gibbs ride. He's in the RCR ride that's in the build, process of trying to accomplish something, and it's just not there yet. But again, he can't get on Denny because he's saying. He can't get on anybody. He's the one that needs to do the work, right, with his team. And I just, again, I said it last week. I'm saying this week, he has to

be the leader. He has to be. Yeah. And, you know, you're correct in saying, like, I listened, I went back and listened to it last night when I got home. You know, I didn't hear, I went to the whole thing, because I watched obviously the clips that we posted last week, but I went and watched the whole segment. And anything that Denny said wasn't wrong. You know what I mean? He talked about the last couple of years he didn't run as well at Gibbs. And obviously the first year he ran really well in RCR,

but that was also the first year of the next gen when people were kind of just starting to figure this shit out. Now we see the kind of the cream rise to the top. And I get where Kyle, you know, Kyle's Kyle. He's fiery and, you know, it could come off as kind of kicking a guy while he's down right now, which, you know, Kyle's going to lash out at that. But, you know, are you guys? got to be we talked about this with dean last week and it applies to every driver across the board

you got to be open to criticism no i mean the only way i ever learned to get better is somebody telling me i'm doing something wrong yeah i mean i think for me you know and again i haven't seen all of you know all of this but it is you know you got to embrace your situation at some point and like you said they're they're in a building phase and you just kind of got to understand that and be the the solution and be you know be the person that you know while on understanding gets them to where they want to be. And believe me, I live that as much as anyone. You know, there's, there's things I feel like I could do at a very high level if I had a, you know, a resource set or things were a little bit differently. But that's not my reality. So, you know,

I work as hard as I can with, with the cards I've got. And man, I really, I don't really listen to a lot of noise around me and I've got no room to speak on on Danny or Kyle they've both accomplished more than I probably ever will but I just know I live that in my spot

and you know you just you gotta be a part of the solution I don't know if you caught it yesterday he said he was going to make Danny's life a little bit of hell he did a little bit and he did cause him I watch he probably cost him about almost two seconds yeah I paid attention

Reddick was running him down. He cost him about two seconds. He was on fresher tires. You know, he put, I don't know. He was on fresh tires, but he still. Yeah, what I'm saying. He was still, but he just, he knows how to make it your life just difficult enough. Yeah.

Where it doesn't even probably come across to some people. No. No. But he literally cost them Lambert. So I was watching the fucking lap time. And it was just half a second, half a second. Half a second. Half a second. Here comes the damn 45.

And it's like, oh, man. And who knows when that's going to stop. You know, because unfortunately, that's probably going to be in that position multiple times where Danny's leading and Kyle's in front of them. Freddie, I've got a question. Yes, sir. Or even Tommy as a non-next-gen guy, the 45 car with one to go, just the afterburners, where do you pull that out of those race cars?

It's the lawsuit horsepower. Yeah. He flips that switch and hauls ass. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's just, again, the stars line up that the five was tight. Yeah. Right? And the 45 wasn't, man. and it's just when you're on two tires and I don't know, man, just it's their year right now.

Yeah. And when it's their year, when it's your year, I mean, I've been part of, you know, I've been on the good side of that, some part of my life. When your shit's right, you can't make mistakes, man. You know, you can't. And Tyler has the ability to make it look worse than it is where, you know, like yesterday, he just shipped it off into three. It stuck and drove away.

You know, remember he did that to Blaney at Homestead two years ago. go. He tried to do it to Busher at, I think, Darlington and wrecked him. So, like, you know, he, Tyler is going to commit, full commit, and not, he's sending, you know, he's going to, he's going to, he's going to, he's going to, he didn't want to two, honestly, to make up the ground, and then did it again in three and four. And again, I think it's his past experience with the dirt car of knowing what, you know, how to countersteer and how to do those things just slightly, right? So he doesn't cause a problem. I mean, it's just, that all goes back to his childhood, man. Imagine what goes through your head of, you know, how to.

of doing that, you know, of knowing what to do. I mean, it's, it's awesome to watch. Tyler is interesting because, you know, when he drove for me, those few races a couple years ago, you know, he was one of the, one of the few first, you know, cup level guys I was able to work with. And, you know, you always hear about what makes someone special. And you, you know, you grew up thinking you're special. But for him, it was like first lap, top of six, plus 11.

in my car, you know, and it's just like, what's going on here? Like, it's just like a, you know, with Corey or Christopher, you know, Christopher Bell when he ran Mexico last year, it's just, you know, I always say that I think, you know, on the development side, whether it's ARCA, truck, O'Reilly drivers, I think a lot of them, they think they want a cup race, you know, it's like they think they want what that is, but they don't really understand what it is. Just ask Conorzilich right now. And ask Cletus.

I mean, he's a, right now, he's the best person to ask of knowing the difference just between. One step. Yeah, just one step. I mean, he's been saying it's like, holy cow. We talk about it with the drivers that come on here a lot about, especially the younger guys, about racing against the Cup guys in the Xfinities or the O'Reilly series and the truck series. How important is this on the owner's side to get a guy like Corey or a guy like Tyler in your car to evaluate, you know, there's nothing wrong with Dean and Harrison's obviously been racing for a while now

but you know you put somebody like Reddick in there you know you're getting every ounce out of that car and you know kind of where your stuff stands yeah I mean I think it's a slippery slope man yeah it is in business for a business model it's a slippery slope for sure I mean I think there's there's good that you know comes with that and you know when Corey ran with me we did 12 or 14 races and he was he wasn't cup racing so um you know he was just a very special guy that was that was on his way. So yeah, I mean, I think it can it can really kind of show potential. You know, I do think my guys now are getting the potential out of the race cars that we're bringing right now. But, you know, like you watch Larson at Bristol, you know, it's, you know,

our strategy meetings before the race are all what lap is the 88 going to be? Yeah. Catching us. Yeah. And we're expecting to run. like 8th to 12th. Yeah. And our, like, our conversation is when is the 88 going to be there? So, you know, I do think it's good in a sense for for these guys to race around some of those, you know, guys and really kind of get a sense of, you know, what that level is. But I also think the grind of the back part of the cup garage, I don't think there's an

understanding of what that really is. And, like, you know, there's, there's days in Cup where Lugano's back there in that battle or these championship level guys, you know, have a bad day and are grinding it out. And Tommy, you know better than anyone. But I just, I think sometimes there's just not quite an understanding of, like, what Sunday is. And I think everyone thinks they want it because it's what we've all thought we wanted our entire life. but having, you know, a little bit of experience now on what that really is, you know, I don't know. It's the hardest it's ever been, man.

It's all I can tell you, it, all I can tell in everybody, it is the hardest it's ever been. And that's honestly, I mean, Sunday is one thing. That's a giant step Saturday is Sunday. But even everything is as hard as it's been. Yeah, the truck series has got 20, 22 good trucks now. The Infinity series has got 25 good cars. I mean, it's just like, I mean, you got, you have your groups, right? Let's, let's be honest, right?

You got your 12 and your 12, in my opinion. And you got the same thing in the trucks. You got 12 and 12, but it's just, you're fighting that 12. You have a, you know, the top 12, you have a bad day. You're going to finish 12th, right? The next group, you're either going to finish 13th or 25th, right? So it's like, you look at it. It's like, holy shit.

I mean, the Bristol truck race is nine cup drivers. Yeah. Yeah. Like, all right, where are you going to finish? I mean. Yeah. Yeah. I even feel like when I, when we started, you know, and I, not that I really have an idea what I'm doing now, but six years ago, you know, you built a decent car. You know, you had all the tires. You leased a motor and you're probably going to run 15th, you know, like you, it was just, it was just, it was almost fooled you into thinking like, oh, man, this isn't, this isn't as bad as I thought it would be. And now, man, it's, it takes everything we've got to,

you know, be at the front of our group. Okay. Next one also about Freddie's wonderful boss. You can read that. Denny made the wrong lane choice on the green white checkered spot on, spot off. He also said that there was nothing he could do to defend it and then he knew he had to take the top

because he knew what the five was allegedly going to do. Is that why he's made it? He was made at Cody because of that? Yeah, maybe. He's mad at Cody because he was coming to take the white flag. Oh, that's right.

But, you know, yes, spot on he should have took the other lane, but it's just hindsight. And it's, you know, you follow trends. You follow like the part of the research that I do is, you know, and I need not. The teams do is just kind of trends of what guys' tendencies are. And Kyle Larson won that race with Busher by running third at the end of Greenwhite Checker. And Denny was leading. Kyle was third. And Kyle took the bottom behind Danny, which the guy in third all day long.

long picked the top behind the outside car because the top was preferred after the front row. But Kyle knew I'm going to get a good run here. I'm going to split him at the start finish line. And then same way he won that race, he damned near this one too. Obviously, he got tight and Tyler got him. But, you know, I don't know how you, I guess, you know, you just, you don't know where the five is going to go. You know, you are going to guess. He's going to go wherever you're not.

No matter what, he would have went somewhere. Yeah, but I'm just saying like all day long, the third place cars took the top. And you would almost think in my mind, you know, you know Kyle won that race, but I would always kind of think that Kyle's going to take the top and try to get to the outside of the 20. I think it was in that situation. Or no, it was the 45 and maybe make that happen. But going off past history, he did this same thing two years ago. So you have to have that in the back of your mind.

The cleanest air is in the bottom when all that stuff's getting ready to come to an head. But, yeah, it was just, you know, I think if he had it to do back over again, he would go the other way. but and listen you know Kyle knows the game too Kyle didn't really push Danny they you know he creates a little gap as soon as they get rolling he gets a big shove from behind and that kind of propels him to the inside of Danny and then from that point on Danny's kind of a sitting duck but yeah I think uh I mean I don't know how hard is that to make that decision in the moment like you've been on the bottom all day long you've picked the bottom all day long but the whole most of the day

the guy's not in a hurry to get you he's going to push you down in the one race Bottom line, if Denny covers it, he goes, splits both of them and takes his right rear, fills his right rear up with air and it kills him anyway. So, I mean, I don't know, man. Those are the best race car drivers fighting for a win at the end of the race, right, in our sport. What? Come on my man. I think, I think Denny in this moment, like, you hear the frustration and Sam, it's like, you know, it's about preparation. And Danny is maybe one of the most prepared guys on the racetrack.

And I think in that moment, he realized I should have known exactly what the fuck was going to happen there. And taking the top, we would sort of put the 20 on his bumper. And the 20 would have gave him a better shove. Yeah, but would have the five taken the bottom if the 11 took the top. I mean, you don't know. I mean, you don't know. I mean, you don't know. I mean, you don't know.

I think hindsight's just always going to be 20. Always. I know I've fucked up. That's all I know. Me too. Yeah, good. Austin Hill has every right to feel, quote, unquote, dumbfounded by how Jesse Love raised him. Okay, ask somebody else.

Well, I was going to ask Sam, but it sounds like you, it sounds like you have something to say. No, I mean, Austin races like that when he's getting passed as well, right? I mean, I think he's done that to Jesse time for time and some other people fighting for a position. I don't know, man. You race how you get raced, right? And that's how. You hope that's how.

Right. And that's how Austin races. right he fights hard for every position and he does the same thing that jesse did to him and got him yeah as a teammate yeah i'm sure jesse's feeling bad but jesse's first reaction is like you've done that to me before yeah you know i it you watch it and you're like you know i thought it's it looked to me like uh jesse took all of his downforce dandy away uh i just got on this Where did this, Cleetus is representing them. Cletus is representing Stockman now.

Oh, down for us, Dave, boy. Next thing, you know, he's going to be crown Vic Grayson. But, you know, he just got down on his door and got him free and spun him around. But Sam, how do you approach something like this? Obviously, we've got two cars now. I don't think we've had any major issues like this yet. Have you had any SHR and SHR crime? Not, not really.

I mean, I've been fortunate, you know, a couple years ago. go. I think Corey and Kaz spun through the tri-oval or something just racing too hard. But no, I mean, we talked about it with Harrison and Dean just kind of the expectation, at least for our team, you know, race each other as hard as you want. But like to me and in my situation, you know, we can't be wrecking each other or, you know, obviously don't roll over and, you know, we're not ever allowing anybody to pass. But, um, you know, I think past the, the spin, it just creates a lot of internal, um, you know, yeah, intensity. It carries on. It does. And, you know, with that incident, I don't know what happened

before, you know, we just saw the, um, the 21 spin. Like, I don't know what, you know, had been happened before. I know the 21 races. really hard. And, you know, for me, I joke that our cars are like magnets, you know, this year, whether they're good magnets or we're struggling, you know, they just seem to be right on top of each other. And, you know, I know my expectation for our two guys is, you know, we're not, we're not going to do that.

And we can't, we can't afford to have that stuff happen. That, no one knows that group of guys in that shop, they won't affect them, you know, in that shop. That's a well-oiled part of RCR and that part of the facility. I can tell you that. So that's a very... A grizzled bunch over there. Yeah. Yeah, they've seen it all, none at all. They're working right now. They're getting ready for... Where are we going? Talladega. They're pretty good there. They're pretty good there.

All right. Last one. With only one win and two drivers in the top ten in points, the rest of the field is leaving Ford behind. Who can I ask? about this. What is it? Yeah, I mean, I'm spot off. I, you know, I think it looks bad sometimes, especially when you come off a day where Ryan struggles, you know, has damage. He doesn't, he's not competitive. You see Joey out there struggling. But I mean, RFK cars, well, three top 11, right? Yeah. And, you know, I was going to ask you about, you know, I think obviously Ryan is the best Ford. But across the board, RFK's got more consistent speeds than in that camp, right? Yeah, they're doing a good job.

Yeah. But you look at it. You know, you talk about the top 10 of points. But once you kind of break it down to the playoff guys, we're all pretty even. Toyota's got six in there. Ford's got five. Shevys got five. You know, you look at Brad could have easily won Darlington. You know, Ryan, the short tracks, they were really strong.

You know, so, I mean, I don't think there's any kind of panic button here, right? I mean, they need some speed. They need to find speed a mile and a half. Toyota is strong right now. Toyota is end of the story. Yeah. And it's not, but I mean, I don't think that I don't look at Ford as being any. They're the same as Chevy.

Yeah, they're not steps behind Chevy. Just Toyota's one step ahead of everybody. right now. Six steps ahead of them. Let's go. Okay. But, you know, like, it's, it's, you, you, you, we've had, we've had days like this this year already, you know?

Yeah. Like, you feel like you're just a couple steps behind and, and, but it's not as bad as it seems a lot. Yeah, I mean, we don't race around a lot of Ford's on Saturday. We don't, you're not racing. We don't, we don't, yeah, pretty soon you're not racing any of them. So I can't, you know, I can't speak for Saturdays. But, but, yeah, I mean, I feel like there's, there's, there's so many years where, you know,

you know, the Ford's, at least, at least, I, I, I, I see it, you know, you don't count them out, but you kind of start, you start to forget about him a little bit. And Ligano and Blaney and, you know, some of the guys that are struggling maybe on the front half of the season. And I swear every September, October, like they're just there. So I don't think you ever count those guys out. I feel like I have answered this question on this podcast, probably this time of year for the last five years. You know what I mean? It's like, when does Ford panic in November? They'll start panicking maybe. Yeah. No big worries. Hey everybody, this is Dale Jr.

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And is now time for reaction theater, where fans can call in and voice their opinions from the weekend's race. Do we have a good bunch today? Yeah, we had a bunch. There's a common theme. You'll see. And Tommy, I'm sorry.

Oh, God. Damn it, Tommy. That was the whole call. That was probably one of the better ones. He did say it was his fault. Cody wears been right round, baby, right round. Like a broken record, baby. Right round, round, round.

That's what happens when you, my dumb ass leaves him out for 64 laps. for one for you bringing out a caution that's what I've been probably one of the most boring races of this season so thank you Cody where well that's positive yeah

before like that was a pretty lackluster gen 7 mile and a half race do you think that's going to be the trend the more time we have to spend with this car like I hope not I mean it's just nobody the cars is just the tools are getting so good the cars are handling

halfway, all of them, halfway decent now and just, nobody's making any mistakes on restarts. They're stuck to the ground on restarts. It's just, man, I don't know, man. I hope not. I mean, it was a boring race.

Yeah. I mean, it was kind of just, and I don't know how well TV did it, but there was a glucks. What was Gluck's Paul? I haven't looked yet. But, I mean, it was kind of just run 35 laps, pit,

run to the end of the stage. Run 35 laps, pit. There was no, I mean, the 11, the 11 did, their strategy, was going to have them win the race if the caution doesn't come out. I mean, they pitted four laps, five laps earlier than the 45 took the lead. 45 had problems after he passed the 11.

Was he running out of fuel or something? That's what he said. I haven't gotten a job with me tomorrow. He got the wall there at one time. He said that it stumbled, so he was trying to flip the switch to get more fuel and hit the fence. And when he hit the fence, it kind of sucked him in. And then he passed them.

And that's how that was with two or three to go. and then they were going to, you know, they were racing to the end there. But, yeah, I haven't met with them guys yet to officially hear what happened. But, yeah, I mean, I just feel like we've made the window so small that it's going to be hard to. All the tools are getting refined, man, just like any other car that we have introduced into our sport. And like I said, you got the three biggest ones finishing and where it's supposed to finish. And then you got the rest of the group trying to hang on. I love Saturday racing.

It's, I mean, it's, it's way more fun. Like this, especially going into this weekend, I'm, I can't wait to spot Saturday's race. So far, I don't like Saturday racing. Saturday racing has not worked out good. He's got 33 laps. Would you tell me about tires yesterday? Like, he hasn't even used, like, he's only used one set for a lot.

Yeah, one, yeah. We bought, uh, 13 sets of tires. He's used one and a half sets so far, and three of them gone flat. It is cool, though. I mean, seeing, you know, what the CWs doing the TV numbers, like just the strength of what that's becoming, you know, even having, you know, friends or family or people that have kind of been brought into NASCAR through, you know, relationship with us or our team. But, you know, it's starting to almost feel like

college football a little bit. Yeah, it is. In a sense of, you know, there's NFL and there's college football and they're both great. And, you know, college football gets pretty good turn out. So, that's exactly right. doing a good job kind of growing an identity for it. If you, there, I think it was Daniel Sestpidus last week shared a graph of, you know, the, the viewership numbers like percentage up or down. And it is a pretty shocking graph to look at it. So if you get, look them up on X or Twitter, whatever you want to call it, and check that

graph out. And I think it's, I mean, I think it's a pretty simple formula. Better races, shorter races, easy to find every week. Same channel, every week, all season long. And that's not rocket science. Plus, this is what else is happening. It's getting tougher. It's getting the charter system with only 36 cars and so hard,

not paying, you know, the other guys. The field is set, the drivers are set. Now you have in this next group of drivers come in and the talent level now. And you're right, Sam, between the O'Reilly series and the truck series, the talent in the next couple of years is going to be filled up, man, right, waiting. And unfortunately, not a lot of them are going to get the next chances. So that money is going to get put into those two divisions. That talent is going to get put in those two divisions.

And the next couple of years, it's going to be hard, man, harder than it is now. Yeah, 100%. Well, I hate to derail us really quick, but I just saw on X that Daniel Dye is going cup racing starting this weekend at Talladega. Was it for the 78? Yep. I seen the trail all. Talladega, Pocono, Daytona, Talladega.

Live fast. That's good. Good for him. He came back this week. He ran pretty well in the Archeration. Yeah. He finished second. Yeah, he should have.

Yeah, he led some laps. Yeah. We all say stupid shit, man. Definitely. Yeah. It happens. We will all do it. If you haven't done it yet, get ready.

It's coming. Yeah. We have derailed. Actually, the end of the end of thought he'll going to kill us. But again, I'm sorry, next caller. I know. Let's keep talking. I think we're doing good, right? That's all the calls, right?

Glock's polls at 49% by the way. That's probably where it should be. My wife told me, Kyle Busch probably isn't going to win, so if he finished his last, then you could get some. And he couldn't even get that done today. So, thanks, Kyle Busch and Cody Ware. Couldn't even be Cody Ware at that. Yeah, we almost had his ass. I'm so glad Dennis Hamlin didn't win the day. Oh, Pookie Bear, he was so mad.

He had his boo-boo-boo face on. Pookie bear? Pookie bear? That's tough. Sam just looked at me and goes, are these real. They are. They are. And Tommy, we ran out of gas with 18 to go,

so I hope someone starts funneling me the hate because I know your spot. Careful what you wish for. I am scarred. None of this shit bothers me. 100%. Two more. Well, motherfucker.

I got to watch the jolly green giant and his little fucking leprechaun in victory lane again. If I got to watch this shit one more time, I guess I'm going to switch over to Indy car or some shit. Get used to it. Yeah. Wow, I'll tell you what. Nothing like the NASCAR Toyota Michael Jordan Cup series today.

Man, at this point I grab my wife's Toyota Rapp 4, take it out on the track and probably beat half the field. Maybe? Should give a shot. You should try it. Oh, gosh. All right. Well, if you want to leave a message after a fun race weekend or a boring one, you can call her number at 704, 802-9572.

And we'll play the best ones each week on the show. Shit shows. Shit shows. Oh, my favorite shit show is back this week. What, Bowman Gray? Oh, yeah, here we go. So this is, I mean, I don't understand it. So this is father and son.

I forget the name. I know it's A.J. Sanders. This guy's throwing a caution. What? The race is over. To get out of the way. Yeah. That was the one, like, I have been harping on this for years about, you know,

these guys can't be doing this shit because they're going to hurt somebody in the infield because these guys are just standing there. But the guys in the infield also have to fucking figure out. They can't get in the middle of this shit either. Like, the cop just runs in the middle of it. Like, get out of the fucking way. Oh, my God. Oh, my God just kicked the car.

He just kicked the car. But, I mean, it doesn't take much for one, you know, somebody on the other side not to see these guys and hit the other car from the other side and pinning that guy in between them. Like, these guys need to be smarter. Not to do this dumb shit and wreck your cars, opening night, of all things. But then these other people that are in the field also need to get the hell out of the way

and don't get themselves hurt. Yeah. And I mean, pointing them flags and hitting everyone's car with the flag. The cop kicking the car. And then you see the double birds down here in the left. Boom. Boom. Yeah.

It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It is. And hopefully, there set a precedent with throwing that guy out. They should throw it like, yeah, 05. I mean, it's just, I know, look, Paul McGrathes a show, right? It's not, they don't consider themselves much of racing. It's a madhouse.

It's the madhouse. I mean, that's what the fans love to do. That's Winston Salem loves that type of stuff. And listen, they got better last year. They cleaned a lot of it up. They still need to go further, obviously. You know, and they didn't have, the modified race wasn't great. You know, it was a lot of cautions in that one.

Do you remember when we east, raced at bummergrave? Were you there for that? Yeah. Our car needed a right side, a left side, a hood, a tail, and a roof, and we finished sixth. Yeah. I ran the entire race looking out of my left side window net because the first stack up, we were running steel bodies still.

I'm aging myself. You know, we all had our hoods folded up. So somewhere there's a picture of four of us, and we're all in the corner, and it's like, it's like an old picture. We're all looking out the left side window. Because the hood is just, each car has the hood pushed up. So fun memory from there. That's awesome.

I saw this one over the weekend of the parachuter at VT. Did he miss? He gets stuck on the sign up here. He gets hung on the video board. He's okay. He is okay. He is, hopefully. Yeah, he's coming down and.

Oh, man. Boom. Jeez, he hit hard. And the worst part, that's obviously hurts. But now this is the worst part. He just hangs there. He just hangs there. and hangs there.

I'm glad he didn't fall because that would have hurt. Well, I never watched long enough to see how they got a The parachute would not have worked after that. No, you don't think so. Right? That's a big fall. That's 30, 40 feet. Tommy, don't you feel like you felt that before?

Yeah. Like, we haven't fallen like that, but I've, I feel like I've been hanging off the Jumbotron before. Yeah, that was me. In the falls long. 10 o'clock last night when you guys were still texting and I was feeling the of the weekend. Did you have to get into the red wine last night, Tommy?

No, no, I went right to bed. Was this real? I thought this was AI. No, this is real. As far as I know, this is real. What it? Oh. So there's a robot.

Look at the stretcher. It's going to run. I swear to God, I thought this was fake. But maybe it's not. And maybe it's just staged. I don't know. But yeah, there's like a robot going to run a race, I guess. Look at a guy laughing.

The camera man. He trips over a little speed bump and game over. Spazes out, blows his arm off. Then they run out with a stretcher to get. It looks like a yard sale if you've like ever been skiing before. Like it looks like when you wreck and you blow off your poles and your skis are going five different. Apparently. There's a bad week for robots.

Apparently, there's like a race in China where they race these guys and they were just all over the place. There's one in the bushes. This guy's dancing. That's me last night. I'm not saying anything about these things. I'm not saying a word about him falling apart. One's going to walk in the room. No, guys, that's real.

I, like, sometimes, like, when I use Chad GPT to ask it something, like, I'll be, like, please and thank you. Like, because, like, if the robots ever take over the world, I want them to know that I was nice. I was kind to them. Dale is named his. Has anybody caught on to that? Dale, it's Chad, right?

What does he call it? Yeah, he calls it Chad. He calls his chat GPT, Chad. Yeah, he said, I asked Chad. And I'm like, who the hell's Chad? And he talks about it. So it's umbrellas assaulting fans at P&C Park. Oh, oh.

Oh, tornado. That was a tornado. That was a, they said it was a tornado there. There's patio umbrellas. That happened on the roof one time. Carl Miller. I lost an umbrella. And it almost took everybody's head off.

Damn. Did you feel the wind Saturday? Oh, yeah. Are you shit? I mean, we were holding the top of the canopy. The JGOL and flew off. I didn't feel any. It was no, there was no wind on the roof.

You're bigger. I mean, you've got a better base. I mean, I was hunkered down, but it was still fucking windy. He's not going anywhere. I don't know of Kansas on the spot of stand. It's windy. It could be beautiful. And it's still 20 to.

We had that conversation on Channel 2 because Chris asked me, which you get on on Channel 2. I don't think most of the time. But Chris, I go right up there. I'm like, yeah, I'm fat. He's like, no, you're not fat. I said, Chris, I'm fat. Like, yes. You're plump.

Yeah. How do you like working with Chris? I hate it. Yeah, I figured. I can't stand it. I told Sam when I went over there, I said, I'm, we're going to regret this, but I'm just coming over here to work with Chris and whatever. At the time, Chris Bowen. I spotted for him at when he was crew chiefing.

I spotted for him when he used to race. Just a great guy. And then, I mean, I mean, I don't know. You might not call him the leader of the shop down there, but I mean, I feel like he's just been with you forever. Is cram still work for you? Yeah. He's our shop foreman. Still cursing at you? Yeah. Still mad at you? Oh, yeah. No, he makes me better. But, yeah, Bowen's been with us for three or four years now, and he's really blossomed into a leader. You know, he's a racer. I think our place, I'd say I feel better about our people than even our equipment with the, you know, the Bowens and the Fuzz and, you know, some of the DEI guys. from, you know, from back in the day. It's hard to find like well-rounded racers anymore.

That want to just come in and grind and really do this. Was that another fat joke? Yes. Always. I mean, I was saying earlier, eventually I'm going to take on true team owner form. Oh, yeah. Put on 200 pounds, you know, just. Start wearing button down.

Colour shirts. Yeah, hair is already, like, starting to go. So Sam's, like a transformer. Sam's point about being over there. Like I went over there two years ago, part and part to spot for a Toyota. But I went there. We didn't have a driver when I went there. I just said, I'm coming over here.

I'm friends with Sam. I've known Bowen forever. I said, I just want to be somewhere where I'm having fun racing. Like I talked about this with Dean last week. I talked about it on here a lot. If you're not having fun doing this, then you're completely wasting your time. So it's just been fun to be over there. And I've had people ask me last off season to do it.

And I'm like, nah, I think I'm good where I'm at for a while. So I appreciate what you guys have over there. and it's just a lot of fun to fuck with Bowen all the time and watch him to get spun out. Talk you off a ledge once in a while. Talk you off a jumbo tron. All right. Last one for the shit show.

What is happening? Is that fucking sheep? Yeah. What? Are they, why are there sheep? Are they cutting the grass? Why are there sheep? Always rounding them up.

The baseball. Sheep dolls rounding them. Apparently they're not supposed to be there. You guys don't play baseball with sheep? I mean, I don't know. Typically, but I mean, I've heard about it before. It was a foul ball. That's what it says on this.

There was one. Damn it. I don't know where it's at now. We'd have to look it up. But I did have to give a shout out to the shit show. Trevor Ward. Did you see Trevor Ward win at South Boston? And I don't know if he was trying to show off.

Did you see this? Normally, you know, you try to spin the tires up. Yeah. He's coming to the checker. He's leading a lay model right to South Boston. I saw the reply. And he's, and I think he did. just wanted to like buzz the tires.

That would have been some bitch if some bitch stopped before, stop. If he didn't make it to the line. Oh my God. But he deserves a shout out for a shit show. I was going to get, he needs to be on the list. He's on the list for winners.

But we're going to add him. Yeah, yeah, we'll add him on there. He didn't just get free. He was a shit winner. Yeah, he's a shit winner. All right, well, you can check out those nominees in our YouTube description. And don't forget to vote on DirtyModemy's X profile.

And then now I think we also have a running graphic with each week's winners on it that will continue to update throughout the year so everybody can stay posted on who to watch out for at the racetrack or at a baseball game at sheep, I guess. Time to move on to AskDBC and these questions are submitted by our fans. Sam, what is a moment as a team owner? Hold on a second. What about the shit show what you talking about last week's show?

I've seen you talking about something, taking a poop in the woods or something. What? Oh, it was when I was younger, LW ripped his sleeves off his shirt and gave them to me to wipe. That is a literal shit show. Exactly. I just wanted to. I just wanted to bring that up. Go watch Rare Breeds.

I was on Rare Breeds, by the way. All right. What's a moment as a team owner that has made you want to look around and take it all in? The day he hired me. Oh, yeah. Jesus. Can we unplugged Freddy's microphone? The day he fired me.

He fired me. He's going to be the next day. Man, that's tough. I mean, it's easy to jump to, you know, good top five finishes or some of those special moments. But, man, I feel like daily, you know, when I started and it was just me and Clint, you know, I, we did everything. You know, we built the cars, you know, we set them up. Like I was still doing, you know, everything hands on where now, you know, my, my roles changed. lot and I'm in an office upstairs looking down at the shop floor and all the things I really fell in love with. But it's super corny, but I feel like every day when I leave, you know, to just be able to see all the people that have bought into the program, you know, and a lot of people that have left very good, you know, organizations that might be able to pay a little bit more or have a little more instant success. I, like, I've really, my mindset's changed a lot in the last

five years on, on why I'm doing this. I think when I started, it was all, not all about me, but I just wanted to win and I wanted to show everyone that I could, I could win and, you know, have the trophies. And, you know, I'm in a totally different headspace now to where I just want my people to win. Like, I really, I don't need the trophy at my house to be happy. or to live a happy life, you know, but if I can see these guys and girls that, you know, jumped on this half-built boat that's constantly taking water and, you know, if I can see them win, you know, and I see them, you know, win at work every day, but I'm kind of steering into a goal. Like I just, I want to see all those people rewarded and, you know, that's kind of become

my purpose because I think the process is the same. When we do win, you know, Monday's going to roll around and it's going to be on to the next race and, you know, we'll cherish those moments. But I've really learned to love the process of what we do and a lot of the process is ugly and challenging. But yeah, I think for me just, you know, seeing 25, 30 people that have, you know, dedicated their, you know, their living to working for me is when I really soak it all in. smile, right? Yeah. That's really cool. That's cool.

And I'm actually myself interested in the answer to this one. If you could only wear one band's t-shirt for the rest of your life, who would it be and why? So I think it'd have to be Blink 182. There's a tattoo on my thigh, college days. But, you know, it's funny. You want to explain? Yeah. I mean, it was.

I mean, it was. It was just a long night. I studied really hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were rewarding yourself. I was in the library. I was in the library nonstop. But no, it's actually a kind of funny story with, you know, Blink.

And I've always been kind of a rock punk, you know, listener, which isn't. You and Noel put me on my chemical romance originally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely went through those phases. But Blink 182 and 98, they released an album called Inima of the State. and the CD had a nurse on it that was, you know, pulling a glove on and, you know, a good-looking nurse for a five-year-old kid to look at. But we were, I think we were moving to the Netherlands or we were going overseas and somehow, I don't know, if I stole the CD or I ended up living in the Netherlands and having this

Blink 182 CD and it was like the only thing in English that I could listen to. So I had my Walkman and that CD. And, you know, I was far too young to be listening. listening to it. But, yeah, I mean, I think just sentimentally that that bands just, you know, I think for any 90s kid. Yeah. I would have a whole different story. Yeah.

No, I know. We're not. Yeah. I did get a live DVC question. Like, very randomly. Mike Ford just texts me and he wants me to tell you to tell your Battle at the Beach story. Oh, man. Battle of the beach.

If you don't know what that was, that was the race on the backstretch at Daytona with K&N car. as I assume, yeah. Yeah, so I guess this is kind of maybe my entry to team ownership unintentionally. So the Battle of the Beach was a short track race that they did on the backstretch, what, 12 years ago? It's been that long. It's been that long. Yeah. Anyways, it was live TV.

I'd never raced on live TV. I was in Virginia. I had my Canaan car with some family and friends that helped build it. And I was like, man, I really want to go run at Daytona. Like to me at that point of my life, that was still a pretty, pretty big deal. So we put this car together. Went down there to try and make that race. And I was just terrible.

You know, I think one of the springs wasn't sitting in the bucket. So the thing just never turned. Just full rear brake. But it was literally a, it was just two hairpins. Yeah. So I ended up qualifying for the race and making it, which was cool. And this was a little, you know, this time, was kind of before you had your phone everywhere.

So I went to driver intros, and it was me, Brandon McReynolds, Corey LaJoy, you know, we're all kind of talking, going to the stage. And I went out and they introduced me as the wrong driver. And I figured they messed up the rundown or whatever, but I didn't think anything of it. So then I walked back to the impound and there was another driver standing. at my car. There were seat molds on my roof.

And I had no idea what was going on. And I don't think, I don't know if it was my dad or my friend. Someone found me. And they were like, hey, Sam, like, you're, you're not racing anymore. And I was like, what do you mean? And they were like, yeah, someone showed up with, you know, a briefcase. And, yeah, we sold you out immediately. And, you know, you can go to college or something now.

but you're too sick to race. So, yeah, so I just kind of had to leave. They were like, yeah, we're going to say you're sick on the broadcast. It was another driver that was in a good car and didn't qualify for the race. And, you know, I don't know if they were obligated to run every week. But, yeah, I got sold out quicker than man, anything. And again, it's probably for the best because, you know, I watched that guy struggle in my terrible car. But, yeah, it was like the first time, you know, someone else kind of got in the car.

And, you know, Mick Reynolds always jokes that he, you know, they only lit up the part of the speedway that the track was on. And he always jokes that he saw me walking out of the, down the super stretch into the, into the darkness. And it was like, they sold Sam's soul. And he's gone forever. And, yeah, you know, so we obviously that. Those resources were valuable in my life. And yeah, a lot of crazy stories along the way. DBC picks.

Tommy pulled out a win this week. What do you mean pulled out? I won. All right. Guest pick first. So Sam, you can pick anyone on this. Jam, he finished seventh. Purple list, except somebody that's great out.

I mean, I've got to go with Reddick again. I mean, I just. No, I mean, that's fair. I just, again, as a business guy and looking at statistics, I'm going with Tyler. Okay. Where are the hell is, I go next. I am going to go with Carson Hosevar. I guess I'm picked third.

You are next, yeah. I will take, I'll take Kyle Busch. Wow. This week's the week he's going to turn it around. Kizelowski. That's who I was going to pick. But I felt like I didn't use him somewhere else. Well, shit.

Who's spotting for him? Nope, you already picked. TJ, sorry. You're fucked. You already picked. Fun deal. We got weekend winners. Weekend winners.

I got a shitload of them. Sammy, got any guys that won the races? You want to shout out this week? Me? No, I'll let you guys late off. He was a little busy this weekend. Obviously, we had Redick, Taylor Gray. Didn't talk about Taylor Rod.

He's doing really well this year. Geo, God bless him. He won. Trevor Ward, we mentioned already. I saw Old Sunshine won. The Outlaw Race last night. Maddie Hirsch won R.O.C. at Mahoning. Carrie Madsen won his first high-limit race at Lucas Oil.

How old is that guy? He's 87 years old now, I think. Kerry Madsen has got to be like 40 something. Yeah, he heard he was saying. Yeah, he's probably as 40s, I would say. I didn't realize that. He might be pushing 50. Maybe.

Tim Brown won the Hayes Jewelers 200 at Bowman Gray. I saw one of the Greggs won the sportsman race. I don't know who won the other races. is probably one of those guys barrel rolling each other. Back and into each other. Stewie won his hundredth race at Fonda, Stuart Friesen. Matt Williamson won the night before, right?

The dirt race, the dirt series. RJ Johnson won the U-Sex sprint car race. Tate Fulgeman won the R-H-A. I'm not saying that right? I-H-R-A race at Cordill. Somebody else won the pro race. Roteric. Roteric. Rhetoric.

Rhetoric. H. Rater. H. Laden Huffin won at Trag County. And Wake. And to back. Finally, I can't remember last time you won.

Emerlin won New Hampshire. And D.J. Shaw won New Hampshire. DJ Shaw won the race. I saw Connor Sousal won the act race. DJ Shaw won the pass race. I couldn't find results in the modified race. Emerling won. That's good.

Chase Burrow won Langley. Jeremy Miller won the Big Eight Super Spring Classic at Grundy County. Oh, Ashton Higgins won at Kingsport. There you go. Chrissy Wallace won at Shenandoah. Yesterday. See who her crew chief was? Was it Jeremy Mayfield?

No. Todd Parrott. No. Oh, that's right. He does that car. Yeah. Good for Todd. Todd is something.

Todd was at TBR when I was a TBR and it was fun. Jake Garcia won the Southern Super Series race at Montgomery and in the Rickware Racing late model. Oh, yeah. Michael Bumgarner won at Hickory. Yeah. For the 11th time in a row. For him?

They keep making him start further and further back. Hickory put like a bounty on him. Right? I think. Right? Well, they have a rule. Like a four. No, no.

This week you're going to start 10th, they said. Literally. They have to just keep bumping him backwards. Same rules and everything. Yeah, no, this week. Next week, you start in the pits. They're going to start doing that shit to Retic. Yeah.

I had a late model race at Shenandoah Speedway in Virginia, and it was my first full-bodied car race, and I ran the limited late-model race, and didn't realize we had a late-model motor in my car, and they just, I somehow got to, race, the limited race with the big motor and I wore them out. And it was probably the worst thing I ever did in my life because I left there just thinking, man, I, I, I, you were the shit. I can do this. They didn't check you. No, I don't know what happened. I just remember, you know,

rolling around everyone on the top and just thinking this racing thing was going to be really easy. I heard they're opening it back up or or have her on the way to. Maybe if they do, we could bring you out of retirement. Yeah. No, my guys always joke that if, you know, they, they win a race that I have to run an arc super speedway race as, you know, kind of satire. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He won a bunch of money, I think. Was that this weekend? Yes. Strickler was talking about that yesterday. You see a picture of him when it was young floating. Oh, my God. Tough.

They said he won like 130 grand or something like that. Yeah. 10, I think. Strickler was complaining because. Oh, that's right. He went. I think the night before. I forget.

He said it was $800 a start. He finished, I think, six to fifth. He got $8.75. And JD won like $20,000 to win or something crazy like that. He said, yeah, Dale McDowell is right in front of me. He got like $900. He goes, they were losing their minds. They were fourth and fifth and got the same money as the guy that started the race.

But, yeah, I don't know. Where are we going this weekend? You got anything going on? We got Wake County with the smart tour. Oh, fun. Is that the first time they've been to? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think. I hope you guys have a better time than we did. How many laps are you running? 99. Good, yeah. Don't do it 175.

And Jack makes his debut Saturday for you guys with the cars tour with the pro late model. He is? Yeah. At Carrows? No. At Carraway? At Carraway. At Carole?

At Carole. Is he running for? Lopez. I don't know. Somebody. Somebody. The Stoke. Stoke Shoes team.

Oh, oh, oh, oh. The 11. I know what you're talking about. Well, cool. Has he tested or anything? Testing all this week. Atute at night. Yeah.

Caraway. We're cars to a race Yeah, cars tours at Carraway this weekend New pavement Both series I guess Yeah, they repaved The corners Really?

They got When did that? Over the winter Like there's no curb down there anymore Right? I've done a really good job there They got one of those grants You know, to fix the track up

And he's put He really has Put more grandstands up Improved their tower And like speakers And all that kind of stuff Like it is really Sam's the guy

Since I got you out of the comp meeting What are you doing with the rest of your day. I'm going to see what happened. I've just been watching my phone just ding the entire time with questions, comments, you know. This son of a bit. Yeah, you know how it is, Tommy.

Yeah, we got Talladega this weekend. I joke that the plate races are kind of my taxes, like I pay my Speedway taxes, and I'm waiting for the day I get a tax return. And I've been waiting for a couple years now, but I don't know. I think Dean's become a pretty good. plate racer. You've helped them a lot with that. And obviously Harrison's got a lot of experience there.

Freddy's head's not going to fit through the door. Well, he paid me. I knew it. I thought I saw him slide something out of the table over there. Yeah. But no, I mean, it's, you guys know, it's an opportunity race too. So, you know, excited to kind of take a lot of variable out that we're working on and just, you know, go see if we can make it happen.

Hell yeah. We appreciate you dropping by today. we would love to have you back at some point. Maybe another five years from now. If I'm still here. Some bitch can be bald, gray, fat. You won't recognize me. I told him you got two.

You got two ways to go. You get like that fat car owner thing or you can go like the Harmon route and just start get a little bigger and start driving again. You get back in there. It is. I mean, it's funny, man. The people are like what keep you going. And even being in this building like shout out to Dale and Mike Baumgartner.

Like Mike. has just been so good to me, and he's a racer, and, like, one of the first people to always jump in and help however he can. So, you know, there's really good people in this building, too, that, you know, keep me going. Especially today with the four of us. Four of them. It's three. Well, there's more of it. And produces, yeah.

That guy that slaps the thing there. They're in a better place. Thank you guys for listening. we will be back next. Some of us will be back next week. Some of us are going on fucking vacation. Must be nice. And I hear that I'm going to miss. I don't know if it's for sure yet.

But this is not a setup and I don't want to hear anybody. Shit. Yeah, you did. You did bail on me before I told you who the guest was. Possible guests. So we'll see. Enjoy your. Am I going to want to be here?

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to drag TJ back in here maybe to fill in for you. Or maybe we might have two guests. next week, so we'll never know. I hate that I really hate that I'm missing it. Where are you going, Tommy? It's a wife's 30th, 30th birthday.

30th, your wife's 30th birthday? I told her on her for a 30th birthday that she can go, we can go wherever we want. She knows the racing schedule. She's like, well, after Talladega is probably the easiest for you. So we're going to go to Bahamas. Oh, awesome. First three days are going to be the family. Next three days, she's piling in her friend.

So she's going to have fun. Yeah. My oldest is bringing his yacht over and I'm going to go. Damn. It still boggles my mind that that kid's got a yacht. Two of them now. You see his new? Yeah.

The new one is. Is he single? It depends on what they is. Depends on what country he's in. Yeah. He's going to be in Monaco for the summer working. Anyway, thank you guys for listening. Some of us will be back next week.

Maybe with really fun stuff going on. And we will see you then. We're out. Bye. Peace out. See it. Check out Dirtymoe Media on Instagram, Facebook, X, and TikTok.