Door Bumper Clear - Debating Darlington Fall Off with Matt Weaver

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Your Monday just got a whole lot better - Door Bumper Clear is HERE, and we have Matt Weaver joining us to talk Darlington, short tracks, and ... pizza? In the opening segment, we cover the whole wide world of racing, starting with the situation surrounding Matt & the Rattler at South Alabama Speedway. The crew then dives into whether or not the race at Darlington lived up to the hype the drivers have been hinting at. They also discuss Corey Heim's realistic chances to run well in the Cup Series and why it's not as easy as fans think it is. In Spot On, Spot Off, the topics covered were: - Tyler Reddick's chances to win the Regular Season Championship - Should Hendrick hit the panic button? - Justin Allgaier winning the NOAPS title before Homestead - The Chase Format vs. The Playoff Format Reaction Theatre did not disappoint, with Blaney fans calling in, people calling for Freddie to cut his hair, and a fan who is rather enthusiastic about his wife. In S*** Show Hall of Fame, we dive into the world of cycling, on-deck circles, and Max Verstappen's disqualification. This week's Ask DBC gets to the real nitty-gritty with Matt Weaver, with a debate about Chicago and New York style pizza ... oh, and which short track more fans should go visit. Finally, we wrap things up with DBC Picks and our new favorite segment, Weekend Winners! Don't forget to check out the merch at shop.dirtymomedia.com! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. What if we left all the spotters out of everything? That's a terrible idea. What page are we on? Why you cursed that? This is why I'm just you cursing to me. I think he's a whiny. That's what I think.

Next thing you know, I got no fire suit on. Routy nation fans are getting lucky tonight. Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome back to Door Bumper Clear. I am still Freddie Kraft, the spotter for Bubba Wallace, Dean Thompson and Gio Riziro this week. Dean, my whole week was not great.

We didn't run very good all week. Gio. Gio finished okay, but we didn't run very good. How was Thomas? How are you? Absolutely terrible. You're all, Jack Randall good. Jack ran good, yeah.

You're still Tommy Baldwin, correct? Still, I'm a little tired because people were texting at three something in the morning and they woke me up. That's what started my day. We got to prepare for this show, whether you like it or not. Unfortunately. But you are still the competition director at RITDA for now. It's going to be a rough tomorrow.

Sorry to anyone. Tomorrow meetings are going to be rough. Has to encounter Tommy over the next 24 hours. Don't text Tommy. Because if he has his dinger on it at 3 a.m., I apologize. We've got kids. You got grandkids now. You got to have it on just in case.

We discussed this. You turn the text off. You think I know how to do that. Give me your phone after the show and we'll do it. We'll fix you up. Carson, how are you today? I'm good. I'm a little worn out because I've been moving all weekend, and my mother texted me Friday night and was like, rest up.

We're working hard this weekend, and she meant it. Did she? Because the picture I saw was you guys sitting around drinking wine or beer or something like that. Yeah, I saw that they need a break. That was around 1 o'clock on the first day. We needed a break. Wait, in the afternoon? Yeah.

One o'clock on the first day. And you worked hard. What time did you start? 12? No, no. We started at like nine that day. We got it done. We got it done.

I'll let you guys know when the housewarming party is. Yeah, we'll be sure. We'll bring plenty of gifts, I'm sure. Joining us again, welcome back. Matt Weaver. How are you today, sir? Not banned from the studio. I'm two for three of places that I would like to go this week.

Well, we appreciate you joining us. I'm sure we will get into it right now. I think that's what the people want to know. People want to talk about this right now. And I think you kind of cleared it up a little bit. bit on social media this week, but we're at a resolute plate now with Southern Alabama Motor Speedway. We are. Listen, I feel like once a decade, I've got to show my ass for short track scene. Remember, we're 10 years removed from me being kicked out of Nashville Fairground Speedway.

So I feel like every 10 years rolls around, I've got to fight someone just to let them know I'm that guy. We have to learn to separate sometimes In short track racing Because we're way better at this in NASCAR That you're going to make people mad You're going to upset people on a personal level Tommy never does that Never

But then you've got to do business And the short version is Is that I wasn't even upset about the logo Everyone's seen the logo by now South Alabama Speedway Did a fan contest to where we're going to pay $500 to our favorite design that a fan submits. And it was so clearly dropped into a chat GPT prompt.

And all I said in response, I did not say that this sucks, this is stupid. I said, hey, if you designed a logo yourself, send it to me. I'll use it on our website's coverage of the Rattler that weekend. And the comment section devolved into just the roughest thing you've ever seen, you know, start your own race track and you can start whatever logo you want. And I'm like, that's not what this is. Like, it's not even about the logo. People missing the point. Imagine that.

100%. And I thought this thing was done. Like, this happened last summer. They picked the logo for the March race. And my staff, because I was at Darlington, shows up to the back gate and they go to sign in and they're like, you can't create content for short track scene until Matt Weaver calls me and apologizes. And so to me, then that creates, that's an ultimatum.

Yeah. Like, you cannot buy access in exchange for an apology. Yeah. Like, we can have a human conversation and say, listen, if I've offended you, my bad, let's talk through the process that got us here. But, you know, when you withhold access in exchange for a personal apology, that's not business. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, we're all good now, we're all good. We're all good.

You're going to back. We are back, and I just, I needed to remind them that if you want to shit show me, we can ask a show. I'll listen to this shit here that you just said. So you just didn't say that with a little dig in mind. Which part? Just now? No, no, with a little dig of say, send me your what you make. Like, first, you already knew this was AI.

Well, I think the problem was they got paid for it, right? Somebody won money. Someone got paid. And in their initial comment section, there were a bunch of people that said, says, hey, this is AI, but I actually made mine that's not fair. Yeah. And so I wanted to, in good faith, actually just give them a chance to show their work and an appreciation for the hand, I don't say hand drawn, because it is computer-aided.

But the artistic ability to create something. It wasn't, the initial spat was not me trying to poke a bear. It was like, hey, we've got six of people. Bullshit. Stop. Stop. That came later. Obviously, short track scene, what you're doing now.

How has that going? That and Motorsport, right? I want to give them credit. I mean, I have my dream job right now covering the Cups series at motorsport.com. And it's actually allowed me the ability to hire a staff. I still very much care about the short track scene, you know, lowercase and uppercase. And that business is doing well. I mean, people are really into short track racing right now in a way that I feel like it's never been before.

Streaming has helped. There's far more interest in the guys who are coming up and knowing their backstory. So super stoked about that side of the business as well. I agree with that, but it's also, there's too many other things going on with the social media that are affecting, and not in a good way in our short track and our stuff. You know, I just feel people, it just feels just so. freely just to spout out whatever they want to say, right? And they don't really understand the consequences of what that affects. You know what I'm saying? For what, you know, people's thoughts that

really don't really matter, right? But they spout out all this stuff and they don't even know anything about the situation, you know? So I think, yeah, it's great that we're doing, you know, can we do the flow commercial now? But, you know, that we have a place, you know, like flow. and all that stuff is great, and we've got all these people involved. And I really feel like the short track industry is really growing now, more than ever, because of it. But to give these people these free will of just writing whatever they want and saying whatever they want, it's just, it pisses me. It's far more than a short track problem. Yeah.

That's just the difference between credible journalism and people that have a Twitter account. The problem is, and I had this association with priests. I think it was last year. You know, like, he was responding to people that were saying ridiculous things. And I'm like, Ryan, please stop talking. He's like, you don't understand what they're saying is ridiculous. I go, I know that. I said, and they're saying it, the more ridiculous they get is trying to draw you into engage with them.

That's all they want is to say, look, I got Ryan Priest to respond to me. Yeah. I don't even. It's so hard. Well, and you're never going to get your point across because they clearly already don't get you. We saw it here with, you know, what we talked about with Cleetus. Like, we are plain point blank saying we have no problem with Cletus. And everybody's like, you guys hate them.

You hate them? No, we don't. Like, it's just, but it's just you're never going to get past that. I get to the point with people that I'll just DM them or I'll just write on, I give him my address. I just give them my address. Just come see me. And it stops, but it's like, why? What gives these people this to?

Because there's no repercussions. They can say whatever they want. That's why I give them my address, right? It's just like, there should be repercussions. It should be like, it's aggravating, man. And I know you probably deal with it a lot more than we do because everyone's going to comment on what you do, right? I mean, the journalism part is probably the toughest part right now

of dealing with that, you know, the pluses and minuses of things, you know. I try to roll with the punches in the sense that, It goes back to the Dell Senior thing where it's like, as long as they're making noise, you know, it's good for business. I appreciate intellectual honesty. Like if you're going to engage with me and I try to seek out people who are having good faith, you know, conversation, which is harder and harder to find. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But it teaches you to have thick skin and to not take it seriously because there's some people who, like Freddie's saying, they're trying to sucker you in.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And so you just have to keep scrolling. It's so hard today. I don't even scroll. I don't even look. I don't even care. I enjoy it. Like, I love to fuck.

Like, the people that are just saying ridiculous stuff, I just like, my favorite thing is just like their comment. Because that means I saw it. They know I saw it. But you're not bothering me. I don't care what you say. Like, you're, especially like the fake. No. No.

I will engage. I'm like, ha. Hell, honestly, sometimes people say mean shit about me. And I'm like, I agree. Like, I agree with you. Anyway, Darlington. Weaver, what did you think? I know you were in touch

for a lot of drivers this week. We let it up to it. I hate to say this because it's going to sound because I'm sour grapes because we ran like shit yesterday. But you didn't run like shit. We didn't run like shit. We got wrecked and we ended up running like shit.

But I thought the race was a bit of a letdown from what we went into the weekend expecting. I mean, we had the fall off. We had everything we expected, but it was still very hard to pass. It was still like, I mean, it was a purest race of worn out tires hanging on. But the problem was they were hanging on too much. It was so hard to drive that I feel like they couldn't really

attack. You know what I mean? I don't think so. I think the last 10 laps of every run was incredible of the falloff. And I think the pitch strategy, the four or five of those guys got, I mean, just think about, I mean, the 45 group, whoever just did all that figure on the first run and only to be one lap off of when they pitted, you know, to pass the leader was like, that was incredible. I mean, it was like the 11. Yeah, you know what the 11 used to do. I mean, they got, they had to figure out. And in the last run, they were like, yeah, we're going to pit seven laps earlier than that.

And we're going to blow by you. They almost like, I'll get to you second. But like, it was almost like when the six pit, they probably were licking their chops. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, we're not coming now. No. You know what I mean?

The sixth pit to jump them guys to get track position. And then you're like, well, if we just run. Well, it is a gamble, oh, Freddie, because if Akasha comes out, you're stuck in dirty air, you know. But just there was a lot of strategy going on. And there was a, I mean, Hosevo put on a show at the end, too. I mean, he'd come out 17th, right, and drove all the way up to fifth there. He put on the show, and kudos to him, didn't touch one car doing it, right? Gotting a little scramble there at the end.

And I think with the 54 and somebody else, fighting for fifth, sixth and seventh, which, okay, you know. but Ron Blaney You know Pit problems all day long right 45 fighting alternator problems Pit problems I mean it was a good race Blaney was somebody I wanted to talk to you about

because I think he was the one that said Like it felt like old school Like where you could let somebody go right Listen I'll say this Everyone says they want 1999 Winston Cup racing Until they get a Jeff Gordon Ray Everingham asshole

And that's what happened on Sunday This race felt like very old school. You take those stage cautions and you call them in your mind debris cautions. That race was very much back in the day. My favorite thing was, and visually, if you know what you're looking for and everyone here at the table does, is the way that you could just drive up behind someone and follow them through the corner and set up your pass in the next corner. You could not do that last year.

And they've made it incrementally better with the tires. And I'm not saying that this is a finished product yet. But there were a lot of things that I wanted to see that I did. And I think that when drivers say all week that it's going to be harder to drive and that's going to make it a wild race, I think fans didn't fully know how to digest that. Like it was harder to drive, which is why it was not chaotic. They're trying to take care of it. You look at the wall.

The wall was way dirtier than it's been the last couple of years. I thought the racing was fantastic, even if it wasn't like, a demolition derby like we saw at Phoenix. Yeah, we didn't want that. We had, that was really good racing. For a purest standpoint, I thought that was exactly what you want. You know, that was the comers and goers. But you needed the problem that we, that I saw that from where we were, you know,

we would, the first stage was the only stage we were actually competitive. So we pit, a couple guys beat us a pit road. We pit a lap after them. We ran them back down. We, on equal tires, it was very hard to pass. You know what I mean? And that's still, you know, it's just going to be the nature of the beast with this car, I think. But, you know, that's what, you know, maybe it was our mistake.

We should have probably run the extra five laps like the 45 did. Because when the 45 came out of pits, I was like, oh, shit, they must have a bad pit stop. He's never going to get to us. He's a half a track behind us with, whatever, 20 to go, 30 to go. And he passed us with whatever, two or three to go. So, you know, it's exactly what you wanted. It's just, I didn't, I don't know. I was, maybe I was expecting more.

it was still it was still just a little difficult to pass if you were equal tires to the guys around I mean you got you got to remember freddy there's probably 25 equal race cars and teams and you know and it doesn't the talent never comes out the first 10 12 laps 15 laps it never comes out because it's you're riding on the freshness of the tires right right so none of that really comes into play until tires started getting worn out and how hard you run in the beginning first how you know how hard you run in the middle or towards the end of the run. It's just if you watched the guys that knew what was going on and how to do it, you respected that.

You know, what was the, what was the post? The poll is, I think about 75%. Is that good on what? I don't never pay attention. It's probably, Darlington. I mean, it's probably average, I would say. We have a spec car. And I think to me, if you can add as many variables to a car that doesn't,

have a lot of them by itself. The tires, you take some downforce off the cars. It just opens up a little bit of disparity that this car desperately needs to put on good racing. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, our race yesterday was simply made by one bad pit stop. You know, like, you know, we had a bad pit stop. We got, we were running third or fourth, I think, at the end of the stage.

We have a tough pit stop. And we come out, I don't know, 16th. We're trying to get back up there. I think we're back to 12th or 13th. the boss man decides it's a good time to dump Eric Jones right in front of us for some reason. So we end up wrecked and then like the, but that's like so like I just, I don't know. It's just one of those deals where I don't know. The race was a letdown for me.

What I was going into, I didn't think we had as much fall off as I thought we were going to. I thought it was, I thought it leveled out around three seconds. We were talking about over four seconds. Yeah, but the last 10 laps, it was another second on half the field. Yeah, but just be like, you're just mad because you run, you finish that. That's it. No, no, I'm not. I mean, I was just hoping for, like, this remarkable race.

But what did you, what did you expect? People spinning out and a hundred cars and people pissed off? I thought we could, I thought we were going to be able to pass. With that package, I thought, not that it would be easier to pass. Like, pass, like. So we came out of pits with a two-lap advantage on Blaney. Couldn't touch him. Like, you know, we were, I think we had a better car than Ryan, but we couldn't.

Apparently, you didn't. I thought we did. Apparently, he was saving. No, he was not saving. You see what he did after the first stage coming? What he did? I just, my point is, I thought we, I thought it would be racier in that practice. Even practice.

You would run somebody down, couldn't get around him. We ran up one down in practice and then they got stuck there for the rest of that until he pulled off. Like, it just, I don't, it was great. It was a huge step in the right direction. I was expecting more. Okay. Whatever. Go next.

Go next. I was your race, Tom. Mine suck, but go next. Tommy, it doesn't have a whole spiel for why he has sucked. It just sucks. But listen, the guy that was the class of the field all weekend. Yeah. I knew on the first lap of practice at some bitch.

Who? Ripped the top. And I was like, holy shit, man. His qualifying lap was unbelievable. I thought he wrecked. In the one, I'm like, oh, you wrecked? Oh, nope. He just throttles up, drives out of it.

He's on the pole by what, at that point, what, like three or four tenths if it was? And I said, man I hope we can run something similar to that because there's like a 3-10th gap from first to second I go as long as we're in that gap we'll be second and we did but yeah I mean and we talked about this last week like somebody was going to get it right

you know because it was a guessing game going in there right I mean for you guys it was you didn't really know exactly what to expect you know you're making a huge swing and hoping you hit it and obviously the 23 11 cars were were really good on two of us ruined our own days but like they were I mean the thing with 45 was

lights out. Yep. Yeah, it's just, they're on it, man. How was the, how was the driver reaction after Matt? Like I, you know, it was very mixed. I think there was a consensus that they wanted more. I talked to Priests after the race and he's like, I still think we have

way more on the tires. And it's funny because good years like this is as much as we can give you. And it seems like they keep finding another 10th they can take away every single time we come back to a new package. Everyone agreed that you could follow in ways that you couldn't. They thought that if you got your setup right, a good car could make passes. I just think

everyone thought there would be more, but I don't know what that means either. I don't either. I'm with Tommy in the sense that you saw a good car. Here was the stat for me. At the end of the first stage, we talked about it a little bit, but the 45 was 13 seconds out with 30 to go and had to pass 15 cars. With a different package, less power, more down force, you get stuck behind every single car, every single car you try to pass as hell. And it wasn't for a good car. And so I think that this is the old adage in racing. If you talk to a driver that had a good car, they're like, oh, this package is better. Hosevar is like, man, I was making passes at the end. I think it's better. If you had a guy that didn't hit it, that's the driver who said, we still need to

do more. I don't think it was really package dependent. I think it was really their team, their setup dependent on how they felt. Yeah, I think it's just this car, I think. Is we, we, This is what we have. And it's just going to be at times, if you don't have a tired advantage, if you don't have an exceptional race car, it's hard to pass. Yeah, but that's what Darlington is about. It's narrow. You have to take all that into play of figuring out how to beat the other team. Like it's not a Vegas where it's a lot of equal.

It's not a, you know, Kansas is a little bit more wearing now. but when you get to a point at Darlington, you always have to try to outsmart the people, right? You always have to take a gamble and say, if I have five lap better tires, I'm going to end up here. You know, all the metrics are looking straight at us. So that's part of that race.

It's not just, well, we had to do that to make the race and exciting. No, it's, that's part of the strategy of Darlington. And we see that I feel like every week, even like a mile and a half, you have a number, whatever the number is, this is the optimum lap to pit. And you always end up pitting, what, five laps before that optimum number because everybody starts coming and then you start panicking a little bit. Like, oh, shit, we got to, we're going to give up too much time.

The 11 was great at it with Gabe Hart crew chief. And like, they would just always come on that number and blow their way back through the field and either win their race or gain, you know, net positive. And I think that's what the 45 just did yesterday. Like they were just, we're going to pit the first stage. They pit on lap 45. It was 90 lap stage. We're going, we're going 45 and 45.

Everybody else came 37, 38, whatever it was. And I thought there was no way they were getting back there. And they did. So, you know, that's, that is what I hate to say that I don't, I'm not happy about it. Because it was a great race for, for what we want. It's just, I was hoping for more of what, I don't know. I don't know. You guys have already argued about it.

I know, but what is he hoping for? He doesn't know. He just wants to be argumentative. That's all. You think so? Yeah. All right, fuck you. Let's go next one.

No, anyway. What else happened? Let's talk about a different series or something for a minutes. Hold on. Let's say, DW gave a, oh, go ahead. Boogie-Buggy-Buggy. I was going to say he gave the classic boogity, boogiety-bugity at the beginning.

I just saw that this morning. I got a question for you, Freddie. Yes, sir. The late cover by Scott Graves. I mean, is it pretty common to not wave? Like, when you're trying not to tip your hand, like, does that surprise you? So we all have, and, and Herm was standing next to me. And he there was, I think for me, I'm always going to wave because I'm trying to avoid what happened in that scenario.

You're also trying, there's gamesmanship. You don't want to let them know we all have codes. I have, you know, the 23 car has a code that means pit, this lap, you know, whatever that code is. So you're, you're protecting the fact that you're pitting because it's such an advantage there. I mean, it's what, three or four seconds. If you could beat the guy to pit road by a lap, it's a three second difference. So there's there's you know it's it's half a dozen of one six of the other but it's it's you know the the risk is not worth the reward for me of you saw what happened to them. They made a late call to come to pit road.

No waving. I know her. I didn't see Herm wave. I know Nick that was six people down for me didn't see Herm wave. They kind of came from the second lane almost. Like it was a it was a late call and they ruined their day. You know, so. I get what you're trying to accomplish,

but now you just ended your chances to win the race because you were trying to have some games and shit to beat somebody to pit road by a lap and didn't tell him you're pitting. You know, Tyler had no idea they were coming. He runs, I mean, I've seen Scott's comments like, oh, he ran in the back of us like he always does. And I'm like, well, if you don't tell him you're pitting,

like he's going to drive in the corner like he always does, why would he think anything differently? And then you stop in front of him. Yes, yes. He's going to run in the back of you. And that's why I asked is like, I thought Chris was like we were trying to win the race. And Scott was a little bit more abrasive and in real time because I asked him that. I was like, he's just frustrated that it didn't work out.

And I don't think that was with respect to him, an intellectually honest response. Yeah. Because he cost them the race. And honestly, it wasn't going to make a difference. Like Tyler was not going to come. Tyler had they had the plan that they were going to kind of run longer. And even if he comes that lap, I think Brad, came maybe the lap or two after that.

So even if he beats him to pit road, he's going to have that gap on him like he wants, but Tyler was still going to run him down. You know, Tyler pitted however many laps it was later, six or seven, and was still going to mow them guys down just like he did the six cars. So at the end of the day, it didn't really cost him to race because Tyler was, you know, probably four or five spots. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Well, the damage, you know, the car was wrecked. So, you know, it hurt them. But it's, yeah, I don't, I'm of the, like, I know up there, like on the box, they want me to be very secretive, but if I'm coming to pit road down the back straightaway, I am letting the guy behind us know we're coming.

You know, if they can react that fast, kudos to them. But like, I don't want that to happen. You can't, you have to avoid that scenario. What do you got out? What else you got? Oh. Was there another series you want to talk about?

No, I was just, I was going to get you guys. She was like really listening to that. She was in tune. I was locked in. No, I was trying to get you guys away from the same road, like, Rotating conversation. I'm just kidding.

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I don't know. I'll let you know. I haven't seen it on the breakroom TV yet. Justin Allgaier, I mean, the 88 was the dominant car. They have, I guess, a bad pit stop. I didn't even see. But they came out of the pits. They saw him come out of the pits fifth or six, and that was the end of their race, essentially. It's so crazy how he could be so dominant, Kyle, in the 88 car. And then he comes out of the pits fifth and you never see him again. It makes up for the week before because he shouldn't have won that race, right? So they're even, right? To your point, Tom, that's just Darlington. The Cup car, the O'Reilly car. If you give up track position, it doesn't matter how dominant you are.

It's, it's, yes. But it's still incredible to me that that is the case. You know what I mean? For a guy that, I mean, you would have thought two-thirds of that race, Larsen's untouchable, we're not going to beat him. He comes out of the pit's fifth. And it's not even like he got to second. You know, I don't even know where he finished third or fourth.

It wasn't like he couldn't even get past the row he was in for the restart. So it's, it's, yeah, it's a, it's a shame. but they, they, Larson, I don't know what the fuck I was getting ready to say. I got lost because I've seen Dean Thompson. Dean, the one thing, there was two things we couldn't do in that scenario. We were awful on a short run and we obviously, you can't damage your race car. And we accomplished two things. There was 15 to go.

So we damaged our race car and gave ourselves a short run to the finish, which was the worst case scenario for us. So, you know, we've now, two weeks in a row, we've probably given away top 50. 15 finishes and ended up wrecked at Vegas and finished 31st. And then this week, I don't even know we finished 22nd or something like that. We just, our racecraft needs to improve. You need to get him back on. Yeah, we're trying, buddy. We're working on it.

Truck racing. What else? What truck race? Who hell wanted to do. Coreyheim doing Coreyheim things. That guy's pretty good. I don't know if anybody's heard that or not. I think the crew chief should get some credit there.

Yeah. And it's talk about that. How hard does that decision make? because you're not coming putting stickers on. You're putting, what, I think there were like six, seven laps scuffs. Still better than. Yeah, obviously they're better. But like how hard is that to sit?

Because we had them too. And like Jeff decided to stay out. It benefited us too. And one thing to give Corey credit, a lot of guys did that. Even the 56 put stickers on. Corey was the only one to get there. Yeah. You know what I mean?

He executed those restarts being there flawlessly to get there. And I think Ross was caught by surprise. Like I know Brandon just said, Brandon said he's fast. coming down the back straight away because he wasn't sure. It's hard to tell. You see guys some bed pit road. You don't know exactly what the hell's going on.

But I mean, to execute that with a little fresher rubber, like the move into three, I think, they said, they said, Ross, when did you know you were cooked? And he said, when I've seen the five in my window net? The restarts were pretty insane. You know, them guys going to the bottom there. And I figured I would have seen that in the other series, but it didn't happen.

the trucks yeah it's just it's i don't know the truck series there is i feel like pretty racy as far as you can kind of get up on a guy like you you make the bottom work and you get off a two and you just kind of just put them in a bad spot to where they kind of have to lift and you're in good shape but yeah core you know i saw i feel bad for i feel bad for riley in this scenario because all you see when cori goes out in wind races all you see is he should be driving the 35 and like we were going to talk about this. I think, you know, I told you last night or this morning when I text you whatever time that was.

Is that 3 a.m.? It was about 3 a.m. Thank God my phone was on D&D. And, well, it should be. Like, I'm hoping you guys get that when you wake up, not at 3 a.m. But, you know, listen, Riley had a really good race going this week. You know, he's been better this year.

This was his best weekend, I thought, in the race car, practice, qualifying, running well in the race. He ended up getting wrecked. But why did he get wrecked? But I didn't see him. I didn't even know. What happened? He tried pulling up on Connor, coming off of two, cutting him off.

Coming off of four? Off of two. And then Connor wrecked him? Yep. Oh. Damn it, Connor. Damn it, Connor. No, he's going to put up, like, you got to set a tone, right?

In the beginning, you know, like, don't do it. Like, he's a rookie. No, that's not going to happen. And just, that's... Anyway, well, now that I know that I'm going to call Connor, but... Why are you going to call Connor? It wasn't his fault. Yes, it was.

Why? He wrecked him. He should, the 35 should know. Man, you are, you are different today. You are different today. I just like cranking you up this morning. I'm sorry. You know I'm already not in a good mood already.

But like for, listen, you can say whatever you want. And you can talk about Corey. Tommy or Matt, whichever one of you want to answer this. Is this a spot on? No, not yet. No, but we're going there next because you guys have said too much already.

I like this. We're going to be on forever. Corey is a very good race car. driver. Conor Zillich, extremely good race car driver. Both of them, same level. Conner's, I don't know, 50th and points at this point. He's moved up. Did he move up? What do you got?

What do you got? Thirty-thirty. Like, everybody thinks, I mean, how many cup drivers would you get rid of for Coreyheim? The bottom 10? You know what I mean? Like, you look at the standings, and I was trying to go through it last night, and I'm like... Probably not

even. Not even. You know what I mean? You look at it, and you're like, I would not get fired this. guy for Corey. You know, because... Well, your bottom ten in points includes Coreyheim. Well, yeah. But, you know, it's... I don't think people appreciate how big of a jump that is to go from that O'Reilly series to Cup. And, you know, like, Riley can go back and win O'Reilly races with his eyes closed right now. You know what I mean? Like, it's... That jump is so substantial. Like, we talked

about Jesse. Like, you can't, like, Corey's going to have a cup ride. whether it's next year, whatever. But he's not going to just jump in a car and start winning races. The problem with Riley still is he's still making mistakes. He should be done with that, right? He should be stopped with the games of trying to do the things he's doing and understanding that it is the cup. Is he running better this year?

I picked him in the beginning of the year as probably being the most improved driver of the year because I know he has talent. and I know he's capable of doing things. He's obviously with a really good team, right, with good people around him. It's just, like, people are at the point that they're not going to put up with what he does,

and he's just got to stop. And he's, I mean, look, Josef has stopped. Pretty much has stopped what he has done. Look what he's doing, right? Because people are going, okay, now we can race the guy. Now we can do things with the guy. Now we can respect the guy. Now we know what the guy is capable of doing

without running into people. It's making a difference. So when Riley gets to the point that he starts to figure out his awareness a little bit better of on track and what he's got going on and what he's doing, he's going to start finishing better. And he's going to start racing guys the next group of guys, right? And then he's going to be racing those, and he's going to race those better. Then he's going to get to the next guys and keep doing the same thing.

He just has to work on his craft a little bit better. But by the end of the year, I think he's going to be, a solid, solid cup driver. And this is what you taught me back when we were racing. You know, by the way, shout out to the 35 car. Had a Tommy Baldwin throwback this week. Yeah. They didn't make the race.

Sorry, I bang the table. But, you know, this is what we talked about. Like, you got to go from, and people don't realize how hard it is to go from 30th to 25th. And then from 25th to 20th. You know, you look at the guys you're racing around, Matt. you cover it on a weekly basis. Like to see a guy improve their average position by two or three spots, everybody goes, whatever.

They don't realize what goes into that. Freddie, before our pit stop problem yesterday, we were, we just passed a 22 car. Yeah. The 22. For 30th. Yeah. Yeah.

You look around who you're racing. When you're running 20th, you go, oh, I'm back here with whoever, having a not great day that day, whatever, all the trackhouse cars, the Spire. Todd Gillen, Joey Lugano, they're behind us, right? Cole Custer, I mean, you know, what? Like, it's hard. Can you put into words about how hard the Cup series is? Like, it's hard to quantify for me, like people just saying,

oh, this guy's going to jump in and win races. Well, it's harder with this conversation because it's a nuanced conversation. I think that if you're looking at it as a binary equation of would you rather plug in Coreyheim into that car, over Riley Herps. I think that's a no-brainer decision. I say that as a Riley believer, Riley got a late start driving stock cars, and he's a decade behind drivers

that started racing late models at 12 and 13 years old. People don't realize that about Riley. Riley started so late. But at a certain point, once you get to Sunday, you are what your baseball card says you are. And to Tommy's point, he's still making some decisions that he shouldn't be making at this stage of his career that I'm not totally sure that Corey would make if you plugged him in immediately right now.

And at a certain point, like, you've got to execute. No more excuses. I think he knows that. I mean, his feet, his foot to the fire this year. Like, this is, this is it. This is your make-it-a-break-year, and hopefully, listen, the kid is such a good kid. Like, talk to a big, being in the past. They love racing.

He works hard. every meeting, asking questions, asking the guys what he can do better, you know, restarts, whatever it is. So I want him to succeed more than almost worse succeed. You know what I mean? Like, every week I look up and see where he's running. Just like, I just, he's such a good kid. I just want him to do well.

And I hate that he's getting dragged down into this because Corey is doing such a good job. Like, who's dragging him down? Like, your buddy's on the internet. You know, it's just, it's rough. It's rough. It's rough for, right? And I just, like, I don't, I want to, like, shake people, be like, it's not easy. And you can also, you know, promote one driver without using another one to destroy it.

So do you think also, like I was thinking about this way you guys were talking, like, it's already a hard jump to go from O'Reilly to Cup just in general. And then, you know, all the facts that you've stated about Riley's career, Riley's career. For Corey kind of being not full time this year, you're still running a lot of different stuff, but like how much harder is that going to make it, in y'all's opinion, if anything? You know, Corey's going to be fine. It's, you know, you see now he's going, like, he's, I think he's going to almost, he's not, I think he would obviously rather be full time, but, you know, he's going to go run some Donnie Wilson

late model races. I think he's going to get to do a lot of shit this year that, like to fill it in, and stuff he's going to enjoy doing. He's going to run good, whatever he gets in, whether he gets, I don't even know if he's going to get a couple of Trinity races at this point or not, but he's going to go content for wins in the truck races. He's going to go content for wins in late model races, fill out his schedule and then see what happens next off season, you know, and hope for the best for him.

And I'm going to, there's a reason why he's not racing all the truck races. Do you know why? He has no money. Yeah. You have one of the most talented race car drivers that needs to be moving up and doing things he needs to do, which he will end up being. But right now, he is not racing because he has no funding. Yeah. Which sucks.

It's insane. That that's, that's what. way this sport grows. By the way, the great thing that, one of the great things that came out of the trial in December is that we got access to emails between Tenney and MJ. So if there was ever a question of whether or not there is conviction or belief that they need to find a way to get him into the system that was answered very honestly. They clearly want him there. So it's not a matter of, you know, do they believe in him enough to give him a full-time spot? There's just financial decisions that come along with that. Parts of the business that people don't always

No, we're thinking about. Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first on this one? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think. Send it. Why me?

Well, we're going to keep talking about our friends at 2311. And roll on into spot on, spot off. Tyler Redick is 95 points ahead of Ryan Blaney in second place and will not be challenged for the regular season championship. Spot on, spot off, Matt. Uh, spot off. I don't think it's a given he's going to win the regular season championship. I think that this sport, and I'm not saying anything that you guys don't know, is a matter of the hot hand exchanging hands multiple times. And I still think that eventually the Hendrick guys are, we're going to talk about it, are going to figure out that new body. I still think the two other legacy teams, you know, Penske and Gibbs are going to give a hot hand at some point. This is not over yet. It's a long regular season to go. Yeah. Yeah. It's spot off just for the fact that there's,

you can jump with the, with the amount of points you get for winning a race now. If, if Tyler has a bad race and somebody goes out and wins a stage and wins the race, they're going to make up 60 points on Tyler that race, you know, so 90s is not a, I mean,

if he continues on like this and continues to build his cap, I'm tired of it. But, but, you know, but I think it's, it's too early to say he's not going to get challenged because you can make up so many points.

in one race. Do they have any weak? Tyler doesn't have any. Like this is, this was what the problem was last year, where everybody was so surprised that he didn't win a race last year is because I thought Tyler was,

if you asked me who the two, a couple of the best drivers in the sport where I would say Larson would be the number one. Tyler's right there in the top three to five, you know, like, and he doesn't have a weakness. Road courses, he can run the wall as good as anybody.

Short tracks this week might be, this week is maybe his Achilles heel of places that he goes and maybe he's not, and it's not so much that he's a weakness. It's places where he doesn't feel comfortable, I feel like. You also got to remember he was going through a lot of personal stuff last year. Last year, yeah. That's true, too. I mean, it's.

Your environment's everything too. Yeah. Yeah. All right, this is the furthest into the season without a win for Hendrick Motorsports since 2019, and it is officially time to start worrying. Spot on, spot off. Freddie? Spot off.

Does Hendrick ever worry? I think they are? Do you think they are right now? I think they are. You would know more. You would know a little bit. No, I mean, I just think they are because of their past history, right? I mean, I think they're all very competitive people and have won a lot, obviously,

tons and tons of races. And they are probably feeling a little bit of the pressure, right? I mean, but they know, again, to Matt's point, it's a long year, right? And a lot of things can happen. But they know, they probably know they should be better than they are. now, right? And there's some things that they need to figure out. So, yeah, I think

they're a little confused and a little worried for sure. I mean, they're going to figure this out, right? Sometimes, sometimes with a situation, you might not be able to. So we'll see. Yeah, I would say spot on

because I think you can't give up races anymore. And I think with the old format, if you get off to a slow start with a new body style, And they are going to figure it out. But back then, you could win three or four races and set yourself up with playoff points to be in a really good spot. But the thing that I think they should worry about, not that they're not ever going to figure it out, you have to be, I think, top three, maybe four in regular season points to win this championship. And these are three drivers now that have expectations of winning the championships.

And if they don't get to the top three, that's a long shot. Yeah, and I mean, we're talking about them maybe being in panic mode because they haven't want to race all three of the guys that have been running full time are in the top 10 of points. So it's not like, you know, they're still competitive. They're still running. They just don't have maybe race winning speed right now. The five was pretty good yesterday. I saw him. He ended up back by us about eight or nine, so I don't exactly know where he netted out.

But like I got in the wall. He fell all the way back into it. At the end, he broke. Yeah, I think he broke a toe link or something, right. But yeah, they have speed. They're going to, they still can, are capable of running top five. They just have not been able to have that race winning speed that we've seen from them in the past. Are there any 2025 playoff drivers that you guys think should be worrying at this point in 2026?

You got Hamlin, Briscoe, Christopher Bell, all the Hendrik guys. Well, Josh, I mean, Josh Barry is the guy that's, you know, stands out. He's not, he's not going to make the playoffs. I don't think at this point, they just don't have the consistent speed. Who else? but Gano's right on the Cups right now, right? Yeah, he's 16th right now. But, I mean, he'll, they'll, them guys,

if you talk about anybody that figures it out, like they'll Paul pull some shit out of his ass, and they'll be top 10 in points before you know it. Briscoe's making his way up. You know, we talked about yesterday, a couple weeks ago, how he was, he was buried in points. He's up to 22nd.

He is only, I don't know, 30 something out, maybe 31 points out of the playoffs. So the guys I'd be worried about, though, briscoe's not going to make i mean i'm sorry not briscoe barry's not going to make it awesome dylan's going to have a hard time making it um of just of the playoff guys from last there syndrick is another one you look at the guys that probably won their way in last year matt that are going to probably have a hard time making it on a point yeah i think there's there's two conversations we're trying to have right like worry to make the chase i mean yeah

josh right but i also i go back to again you want to be top three or four in points with the slow start that Chase Briscoe had, he's going to make the chase. So it's not a question of whether or not he's going to race for the championship. But I do think that, you know, everyone said we wanted points racing again. The consequential nature of these first six races have likely cost Chase Brisco unless he goes on a Tony Stewart tear a chance to win this championship. Yeah, because he's going to... What about Tyler Reddick?

Well... But, you know, he... Yeah, like, we talked about that a couple weeks ago. I was like, you know, he's buried, like at that point, he was 32nd or something like that. It's like, yes, he can get into playoffs, but that's not going to be enough. Like, it's not like the gap in the playoffs used to be from top to bottom was 20, 30 points. You know, now it's going to be, it's like 160 or something like that or whatever it is, 125 from first to last. So you're not making that deficit up.

If you're able to sneak into 16th, you're not. So you need to, like you said, you need to get in that top five to have a legitimate shot at it. Spot on, spot off. Justin Algar will clinch the NASCAR O'Reilly Auto Parts Series championship before we get to Homestead. Tommy, what do you think? Man, it keeps running the way he is. I mean, I don't know. I don't know who's going to be.

I'm spot on. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Anyone was curious. Well, go ahead. Go ahead. No, that's all I have to say. I'm spot on.

Well, go ahead. Hit us with it. That's what. That's all I have to say. That's all you got. know who's going to be consistent enough to compete with him in a 10 race stretch. You know, we, we saw in the last couple of years, he had a 50 point gap on the guys. Obviously, Connor was exceptional last year.

But, you know, aside from Connor, he had a 50 point gap on guys in three races, in three race rounds. So if you give him a 10 race round, all he's got to do is be up by, what is it, 75 points or something like that. By the time we get to, by the time we get to Homestead, I, I just think that it's going to be hard to beat him. I hate to say this. The team that's best beating,

the best that beating the seven is the seven. Usually. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, if they don't get in their own way, I think they're, I think they will have it locked up before we get to.

Well, that's kind of what I was going to say. Like, I feel like Justin has a really good knack for like making shit happen when it needs to happen. Like when it's crunch time, um, like Phoenix,

for example. Um, but then also, it's just the stupid shit like that that, that would prohibit, I think. I mean, even the year you won the championship. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

It was, so, like, that whole race, I'm like, there's no way. There's no way. There's no way. So I think. I think Jesse probably be the only person at the end of the day that will probably give him a little bit of fight. That's either Jesse or does Carson and Rodney come into their own? Yeah.

Because they're in the ballpark. They race the one in the seven a lot. And can he just survive enough in the races he's not in that car? and then start to roll off some wins in those last 10 races. Yeah, I thought I was talking to Carson yesterday, and I thought he gave Rodney one of the best compliments you can give a crew chief of, he's talking about Phoenix, and he was saying, like, I did everything I did last year, and my car is just faster.

He said, I didn't change the way I drive. I didn't change, but he said, now my car is just faster. He said, whatever reason, you know, whatever it is, whatever Rodney's tuning on, he said my car is just better now you know we we I've talked to other drivers where they go from team to team and you're like oh wow you really stepped it up this year and he goes I didn't really change anything about the way I'm doing like I said earlier your environment all right last one after six races the chase format has produced a more engaging product than the playoff format spot on spot off I'm going to start with Matt because you see this stuff all day long I have unpopular opinions I'm I'm

I'm pro playoff what we used to do up until the end. I loved everything about the consequential nature, the importance of winning up until we just had one race to have four guys come down to a crapshoot lottery. And I hate that that's the way that format had to end. I think the races feel less, it's weird, I say less consequential. And I'm talking about how Chase Briscoe is no longer a championship contender. But I will tell you, when you watch the. end of the races the last couple of years and you know what is at stake, the value of those playoff points, it felt so dang consequential in ways that it doesn't feel now? I mean, we're back

to- How do you know? We haven't even got to the point for you to know that yet. You're like Freddie. You guys don't even know yet. I will tell you that. Wait till the playoffs happen to make a decision on that. It's not the playoffs. It's the chase. Whatever it is, Chase, playoffs. It's fair, but I would say I've always hated good points day. that phrase, and I didn't hear that phrase for 10 years, and I talked to a guy that finished 7th. They're like, this is a good day. And I'm like, no, it's not. No, like for you and your stories, you're like, be mad. But at the end of the day, with Tyler winning four of the first six, they'd be saying that now, even if it was the old playoff format, because he's won four out of six.

There's only been two other winners. There's three winners, so everyone is vying for the point. So, like, the thing, I was, I hate to say this because you just said it, I'm walking out with TJ out of the racetrack last night. Last thing he said to me, good points. You know, they win two stages. But if this, he would feel way different if this was last year because they just gave up their opportunity to make the playoffs. You know, in last year's format, we didn't execute the end of the race.

Now we may not get in the playoffs because we didn't win this race. So I'm still, I'm a points guy. I'm always going to be a points guy. I think you should be rewarded for consistency throughout the season, not so much one race. we talked about it. There's going to be a handful of guys that don't deserve to be in the chase

because they don't run well enough on a weekly basis, but they got in last year because they had one really good race or a couple really good races. So I'm always going to be a points guy. And I think that we have a better discussion about who the deserving champion is now

because of a guy that is going to be more consistent over the course of a full season that's going to put him in a position when the chase starts to, to, you know, Tyler, say it's Tyler, you know, he's, he's earned that 25 point gap right now that he would get when the playoff star. He's earned more than 25. That's the really unfortunate part.

That's what I said. I said, you know, the guys that are, the guys that are, you know, 15, 16, they're going to be happy about this. They're going to happy to close the gap. The guy that finishes second in points is, or Tyler, you know, he's going to, if you got a 100 point lead at the end of the regular season, it's getting shrunk that's 25. Or if you're a guy that loses the regular season by three points, yes, we just lost regular season championship by three points.

And now my deficit just went from three to 25 in a week. So it's, it's, but I just think, you know, rewarding consistency for me is how you crown a champion, and I think that's the way it should be. I want to say this. Four wins in the regular season championship nearly guaranteed you a chance to race for the championship come race 36. And right now I don't know that that's really given Tyler Redick on 45 that opportunity yet. And that's kind of wild to me. And I don't think there's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what we wanted. All right, DBC fans, it's time to react. All right. What we do want to is some nice reaction theater calls. So I'm hoping that this week was a little bit more exciting, hopefully. Was it? How was your date last night with our 109 callers? It was long. Yeah. It was like speed dating.

You know, you just kind of get to know somebody and then move on quickly when they're boring. All right. Well, this is Reaction Theater where fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race. And I'm excited to hear what they had to say. My goodness, y'all. I wouldn't trust Blaney's pit crew to plug in my damn toaster. That might be one of the better toaster jokes. I know that was the same time we had a bad pit stop. I saw they stopped in a two box, got a penalty.

Did they just have a bad day all day long? Yeah. Just. And look, Darlington's pit stalls are very finicky of plus a minus. You can have a good pit stop, but you might still lose positions because of the pit stall you're in. That place is one of the most.

like you have to make sure you pick the right pit stall there else you will i mean again we all have metrics of all that stuff for the pluses and minuses but i don't even know where they pick but i'm thinking some of it had to do with it let me ask you this and this is not a knock on anybody please dear god um obviously we go into the weekend and it's usually we're trying to qualify in the top 10 to 12 because those are the you're going to have an opening in those in or out on those spots, obviously you're not going to qualify in the top 10 or 12. How do you guys decide, like, where to pick up in a group? Obviously, you, like a lot of times you probably don't have a lot of options. But, you know, like, how do you decide who you're picking around? Like,

how does that? Yeah, I mean, we, we, again, we have to go on defense a lot because we have to say, okay, what are the chances of this guy going to, in the first run, going to be in the same lap as us? Or are we going to, you know, have to come around this guy all day long? Are we going to, you know, be stuck behind the guy that's going to be in front of us. So, I mean, everybody's thinking of that, but we're at the point now, all of us that I think we pretty much all work really well together in those situations of, you know, I always try to ask the guy in front and the guy in the back, you know, hey, let me know what you're doing, like, because if you're going to be.

So you can help each other out a little bit. Right. Because if you're doing two and I'm coming in, I will stop. And I will, I will make sure that you don't have to worry about that. But if you're not going to, if you're going to keep it secretive, I'm going to, I'm going to to run into you. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. So, I mean, it's, I think we all do a pretty good job on pit road of

trying to help each other. You guys are great. Where was it at? Phoenix. I loved you guys in front of us. You came to second time by every time. It was heaven. Freddie Crafts. Yes, sir. I was calling to tell you, I'm coming down to Danton this weekend. Listening to the podcast as I'm pulling

into McBee, South Carolina, literally the very second. You're saying, watch out for that. 25 minor speed limit sign at the railroad tracks. And motherfucker, there it is. By God, there it is. I slowed my ass down to 25 mile an hour. Thank you, Freddie Kraft.

Motherfucker. We're glad we can help. I'm still spotting. I'm spotting even on the radio. Yeah. Hey, that's one place you don't mess around. Don't speed. Don't speed and big be.

The sign's gone. Which sign? The sign. You remember the old like finger point? The point. It's gone. It's at 30. I wouldn't take a picture of.

and it's not there anymore. I don't know what happened. They probably can't afford it. Somebody tweeted, I forget who I saw. They said they have Hellcats. You know, the Dodge Hellcats.

And I said, what do they need them for? The speed limit's only 35 miles an hour, 25 miles an hour. They can't get away from each other. Tyler Reddick, such a little weasel fucker. What a bitch-ass fucking move.

Wrecking Busher again. Hey, Freddie, shave your fucking head. You suck now. Oh, my God. They're on you today. That's okay. Yeah, well,

he did wreck him because he stopped in front of him. I love calling people. He was just like, I don't know that you can blame Tyler for that very well. But I promise you, I will get a haircut this week. Do you got to clean your beard too, man? Yeah, you got one that's like, you look like shit. Pointing at me.

So I think I'm going to invent a hot suit instead of a cool suit. And that way, when it fails, it will cool to drive her off. Did somebody have a failure this week? We did. Tyler did? Redick did? Yeah. Well, Ray probably just had to shut his off because he was probably trying to conserve energy.

No, he pumped all the water out. He had a pump, pumped all the water out. Really? I think when he had alternator issue. They had a little extra time there. No, no, he was doing it on the track during a caution. Yeah. Track house?

We're like fucking slack house. We're like fucking whack house, dude. I thought track house had the dream team. More like the scream team because every fucking Sunday I'm screaming at my fucking TV. They had three top 20s. What is wrong with that? guy. I'm mad at Track House and Ross Chastain this week too because I picked them for my...

They weren't very good. They were not very good. He struggled. I mean, they're struggling as a whole and Daniel's not. Trackhouse is struggling and Swarra is doing a really, really good job in that Spire car. Man, I swear if Tyler doesn't let Bubble win a race soon, I'm going to French kiss a fucking bear trap, man. Was that you, Freddie? That was me.

I was at 3 a.m. That was why he was up at 3 a.m. After I text you guys, I went and called in. Yeah, we don't want anybody to let us win. That's okay. I'm just glad. It's funny how things work out. This was the due date.

Obviously, Bubba, congrats to him and Amanda. They had a beautiful baby girl on Thursday. This was the race we were worried about him, maybe missing, because the due date was right around. And it turns out we just took this race off anyway. Well, you get some points. We got like eight points, yes. That one was a throwaway week.

It's okay. It's okay. was not a good point today. Hey, Freddie, you want weekend winners? Yeah, well, I was rooting for Bubba, but then you fucked that all up. My wife's got big kits, so I guess I'm a winner.

See ya. Oh, my God. Congrats, I guess. I mean, how did that, how was that part of the equation? That was a long way around to tell us that his wife is well in doubt. No, no correlation. So leave an audio message 24-7.

You can call her number 704-802 at 9572, and we will play the best ones each week on the show. Another show, shit show. What did you guys see going on? Did you guys? This was, we have determined that this person's okay, right? Oh, man. That dude is not okay.

He's asleep. It might be, is this men or women? Oh, his legs moving. I don't know if this is men or women. I can't remember right. All right. So this is some sort of bike. I think it was Italy.

Oh. Some sort of bike thing. That one, the bad one. Oh! They all pile up and then off goes another guy over the, guardrail and he's taking a nap he ended up going to the hospital that was good does that hurt the bike that I mean how did he even he fell over the guardrail before the bike even like went over that hurt okay we got to stop watching that yeah it's like that happens to me every time I ride my

bike that's what happens to me when I ride lime scooters in Charlotte that's why I don't ride those everybody's like let's take a scooter I'm like yeah I'll get an Uber this is my favorite one of the week. Watch this guy. Oh, full commitment. He's going to win that race. Don't know.

He's not in the check. poor guy. Oh, my God. How do you pass? Oh, my God. How do you? If you're the guy in the silver car. How about the flag?

He's like, uh, uh, and he still gets out and survives it. This thing's burned into the ground. I wish I had their names. I can't remember what they were. But, uh,

yeah, this was. Was that dude ready to want to win that race? That was a Cherokee. He was all in. Comes off before. It comes off four. What blew up?

Burst into flames. I don't know. The car bursts into flames. I don't know. You would know better than me what's in there. Maybe a fuel line. I don't know. It's only two cars.

But what an asshole this guy in a silver car is to pass him? Did he went? The silver guy. That was a photo finish, literally, in more ways than one. That was my favorite one of the week. Oh, Brendan Green is the one that. He's the one that car was on fire. So shout out to Brendan.

Yeah. He was full commit right there. I told Tyler Young last night, and for all the people you put in your race car, you need to put this guy in a 42 car. Just one week. He's full commit. He earned his ride.

I have an update on the biker. She was transported to the hospital. And she had five broken ribs along with a micro fracture in her shoulder, but she's okay. I'm glad she's all right. Thank goodness. What do we got live?

Live on deck. Oh. Did Max? Did Max? Oh. Oh. Tell me that hit his helmet. I don't know.

I think it just missed them. That could have. Holy cow. That could have been. Because the Yankees. Yeah. F the Yankees. What else we got?

MotoGP. Sinkhole. Yikes. What's the T? What happened? They were racing when this happened? No, I don't think so. There was no fans in the stands.

Halted all on track action. There's no grandstands. Right there. Those are. understands. It's a wall. I can't see. I know. Me either. I'm trying to help. All right. Did Max really get disqualified? I thought that was fake.

Max for Stoffman's team has been disqualified. He had too many sets of tires. After exceeding the tire limit. Tommy probably doesn't have a modified race for it. Short track scene doesn't cover that. You were banned from that race, whatever that race was. Drag race air save. Last one.

What do we got? Oh, oh, oh. Oh, shit. No way. He's flying. And then he's. If he didn't go over the line, he would have won. The rule is all four has to say on the track, too. So there was like a double disqualification. He crossed over.

They should have gave him the trophy just saving it. Where did he save that, though? What does he do to save that? I remember my dad, my dad jumped a wheel. Actually, it's very funny. It was at DeSoto Speedway, which is now the Freedom Factory. But my dad jumped a wheel, and he lands. just kind of goes, bounces off the wall a little bit,

not a real lot of damage. He comes in the pits and we're like, you're good, go back out. He's like, no, we're done. I go, no, you're fine. The car's not. He's like, no, we're done. I go, what do you mean?

He goes, I broke the brake pedal off. He said, I had both feet on the brake pedal. And when I landed, I snapped it off. So he goes, we're done for the evening. All right, you can check out those nominees in our YouTube description, and then you can also vote on Dirtymo Media's X profile. We hear you that it sucks to listen to us, watch videos. We will figure something out.

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work on it. For now, YouTube description and Dirty Mo's X profile, you can find them. And hopefully they have a better report soon. Time for AskDBC. These are questions submitted by our fans. I would like to start with the most fun one. And that is Fuck Mary Kill, Chicago

Pizza, New York Pizza, or Detroit-style pizza. New York Pizza. Marry New York Pizza. What is... What is a Chicago pizza? Because I'm here to tell you... It's the Pan. I love a D.

dish, but no, Chicagoans will rip you apart. Tavern style is true Chicago. The flat pizza. Thin crust tavern style is what would, like, Vannarini taught me that a long time ago. So deep dish is, this is the first time I'm learning of this. That's for tourists. I would have considered deep, I would have thought that was Chicago style.

So that's what, I mean, that's kind of what this question is probably referring to as Deep Dish. Detroit style is, I don't, like, I, it's like a square pizza, right? I'm fucking New York pizza. I'm marrying Chicago pizza and I'm... You're marrying deep dish. I'm killing Detroit-style pizza. You're marrying deep dish?

What? So that's the game, Tom. You've never played the game, fuck-man-kill. Tommy's 87 years old. He's never even heard of this game. So you have to pick one you want to marry. You have to pick one you want to F. And you have to pick one you want to kill.

Oh, I thought that was a lady calling it in. You thought that was her name? Yeah, I thought that was her... I did. At this one I thought that was at I can answer for you Tommy We're going to marry New York pizza

Because we're going to We've That's our lives And then you got to decide If you want Chicago or Detroit I don't care After New York

That's really matter I don't care And the problem is We can't even go back And get really There's just all the good places Closed down Yeah they're all gone

All right Matt this one's for you What local race track Well I mean I'll ask the other two But I really care What Matt has to say about this one What local racetrack do you think more people should go take a trip and see?

Wake County on Saturday. You fucking holler. What a great answer. Are you going to be there or are we staffing at this one? I'm so torn. I need y'all to find some way to delay this race an hour. I'm in the same boat. I'm so sad that we can't go to Martin's zone.

One, Lee is racing in the O'Reilly race. I know. Two, Lee is second in points. I want both of these things to happen. I know. I know. I did tell Lee, though, if they went. that merchandise trailer is coming to Martin's Valley and I'm coming to party all night long. Like that's going to be the deal.

But, okay, seriously, is that, is Wade County your answer? South Alabama Speedway. See? He can't go. He can't help himself. Matt can't go for you guys can. Just got to dig. He can't go over.

No, I sincerely want people to go and support that event. Seriously. Yeah. Tommy, what you got? Race track, short track. Give me a short track. Some people should go see. Aside from Riverhead, we'll hand up, we'll

tell everybody go to Riverhead. I think Stafford's maybe the best short track in the country, in my opinion. They do the best job on Friday night. It's got great racing. I mean, it's something to look forward to on flow. On flow. I've said this enough. I should have it memorized.

FlowSports. Dot link slash door bumper clear to sign up and get 15% off. We're getting ready to get rock and rolling, right? Stafford's probably about a month out, I would say. As soon as the snow disappears. Yeah. God of mighty. But you can watch Stafford Weekly.

You can watch Riverhead Weekly, I think, still. Just we're getting ready to ramp that. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. I want you guys to take me on, like, a modified racing weekend field trip once. Unfortunately, we're a little busy on. Well, Tommy can maybe. Well, no, like.

Well, yeah, I guess you. Do you want to go a turkey derby? You want to go turkey derby? Yeah, when is that? Thanksgiving weekend. Okay. No. I don't think so.

Is he even changing it? Mm-hmm. All right. Let me know when. All right. DBC picks. Our guests got their first win of the year. Hey.

Who did it? John Wood. Of all the people, John Wood. Who did he pick? Pick Brian Blaney. John sent me a picture of that lawnmower that he's got that he talked about. It is ridiculous.

The fact that he has this lawnmower for like a third of an acre. His fourth one. His industrial mower. He said, here's my $30,000 lawmower. So, crazy. I go for, oh,

where are we going? John Wood is the best example of just fully exercising free will 24-7. Like, he's the best use of free will. I wish we could do a better job

of just letting him talk sometimes because if I, the more you let him talk, the more crazy shit comes out of his mouth. Well, we had to do that on purpose because his dad,

his dad would have. They came up to me, they come up to me last Sunday and said, don't you get him in trouble. I'm sure. Denny Hamlin That's your pick

Wait where are we even going? I don't know why I pick Oh Martinsville Carson you're up I'm going to pick Willie B I'm going to pick the same guy I pick At every Martinsville race

Bubba Wallace Chase Briscoe All right That's a good pick All righty What else we got? What else? Weekend winners

Thomas Got any winners I know you're at a rate, or do you... Ronnie Silk won King and a Modified. He did. Lee won the late model race, right? He probably won the late model race. Shout out. Shout out. Ronnie won the late model race.

I'm sorry. Jack, top five. Luke sucked. So we were going to talk about him. Elliot Sadler. Yeah. Came out of nowhere, man. The last 15 laps, man. Finished fifth. So badass. He didn't, he started last, right? He didn't even qualify. He went to his son's ball game on Friday. He didn't even qualify. He started dead last.

Weave through all the wreckage and the carnage, and then, yeah, he did good, man. Matt, by any chance you know who won the Rattler? For the 100th time, Ty Majeski, does anyone else win the Rattler? Yeah. That race, I almost wouldn't want to win. I mean, you've got to go in Victoria Lane with that damn snake. How many people are like, you know what, I'm out? I've seen Stuart Freezing won Big Block.

Big Block race. I did see that. What was that at Georgetown? You said they were early ready? Bridgeport. Bridgeport. Doug the Hoff Memorial, I think it was. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I've seen Joe Toff won the sportsman race the same night at the same track. I see someone get hurt at Bridgeport. Someone got hurt. I don't know. I did not see that. Rico won his first race with Tony Stewart on Thursday night. Tanner Thorson won high limit.

Dorson won Friday night. I think McFadden won Saturday night. Is that right? Gravel swept the weekend for the world outlaws. Majesky one. We talked about that. Lee won the late model race. I try to put out a tweet for people who sent me some obscure winners and I got IHR.

IHR. Who won that? Kyle Dudley. Kyle Dudley won the late model sportsman and whichever one of Setser's latest projects won the pro-late model race. Was it Mason Malters? No, no different one. I saw the name and I can't remember it. You'd be the guy to add. Like what else stood out to be winners this weekend?

Do you have any off the top of your head? No, I think we wouldn't throw them all. Yeah, it's still, like, it's still early in the year where there's not a ton of, it's mostly dirt dirt late models this week. I can't remember. But, yeah, the one thing I wanted to ask you, Matt, you're much more in tune with the short track world. Give me a couple guys. We talked about last week we see Carson Brown's name pop up a lot, kind of across the board. Give me a couple guys that we're going to hear from that maybe people don't already know in the next couple years. Yeah, you know, obviously Carson is off to a really hot start and he's running. Everything, supers, late model stocks, Arca cars.

I am such a huge believer in Jada Avedisian. Everyone's looking for that female driver who could carry the banner. And I hate even playing that card because you're a race car driver when you put the helmet on. But she's going to carry extra attention because of her gender and the fact that she is extremely talented. She is good. She is the, I would say, the best female driver I've seen since I, got involved with this. The most talented, I should say.

And when I say no fear, I talked about this on here before. Oh, my God. When she ran those dirt cars for like Chad and when she's coming through the ranks, like it didn't matter. Like she was going to let her, she, somebody else I know didn't have any fear either. She flipped over a lot though. I don't know who that. Yeah, Toyota didn't want me.

But, yeah, Jade is super talented. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's, we're always going to see the next crop of young drivers come up and she's definitely one of them. Like I said, Carson's another one. But yeah What else? Tommy, where are we going this week? We got Martinsville. Oh, son of a bitch.

Tor race. Oh, you do. What time is this air today? Five, six o'clock. What time you got a big announcement? Luke's going to drive the O'Reilly's Martinsville Saturday for Headinger racing. What time is that announcement?

3.30. Okay, so we should be good. We're good. That is... Is he approved? Holy shit. That's the proper approval process. Here we go.

started a half mile and get to a mile and a half. And then you're approved. How did that fucking bum get approved? He runs 40th in a modified race. How many YouTube followers does he have? Not enough. Not enough. But no, that's an awesome opportunity for Luke.

Yeah. Look, it's just to get some laps and to learn a little bit. I mean, our main focus. Great. Now I'm double pissed that I can't go. Our main focus, obviously, we start the truck series at Rockingham there, Rockingham Bristol. And by the way, thank you very much for the Rockingham race.

Because you know what happened? What? You have to do it. I am now Father Fred. I have to... Did you apply? Oh yeah, I'm done. I've got everything.

Yep. I'm an ordained minister now because I have to marry... I have to marry Doug because Pastor Tom had to bail out to go watch. And he's mad. I'm like, I got kids racing, then I got to go Dominion the next day. What do you want me to do? Oh, you can... You don't have to go.

So you'll officiate mine now since you haven't got to do one? Well, we got to... You are never getting married. Whoever marries you on... I'm going to just the night before he's disappeared. Tommy's going to be the one to object. When you say speak now? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

I object. For his, for him, for his health. Oh, man. All right. So Martinsville and then just that's it. Jack and Luke.

Jack and Luke. He's running. Actually, he's running for Luke's team. Jack, Jack called me. He said, you're spot in Martinsville.

And I go, uh, yeah. I said, what? You're driving? I thought Luke was driving. He said, no, no, we're both running.

I said, whoa, I think I might be spotted for Luke then. I said, I'm spotting for the seven. Whoever's driving is, I'm going to lose another race for the seven, whatever that takes. I haven't won a race. No, we're not. Carson, where are we going? Wade County. Wade County.

Cars tours back in action. Just the late model stocks? Just late model stocks. And they are racing for an extra 10K on top of the regular race purse with the floatium bonus. Night race? If you've never seen a race at Wake County I promise you We go there with the smart tour

This year I've never been now I'm coming to that That's gonna be good Right off a car Right now Just go ahead of yeah Don't tell me that

Matt so you're you're gonna bounce around this week Where is he allowed That's what I mean? Yeah I was I'm just going to say for the record Matt Weaver is allowed at the cars tour races I'll call Clay and make sure you're allowed at Martinsville this week Martinsville Friday, Martinsville Sunday, Saturday, I need that one hour delay.

I know. I'm begging publicly on the record. All right. Give me something. Give me a legends race. How are you not going to schedule? I'm not going to publicly on the record to say that I'll see what I could do. Is he going to go and start last Lee or no?

At Wake or is he not going to Wake? No, it's crew chief for that race. Phil Bell was like, we plan on partying deep into like five in the morning on Saturday. So that's why when Weight counting leaves, I'm loading up that merch truck and trailer and we're going to Martinsville if the nine wins. On Sunday? No, on Saturday night to go party. Oh, I thought you're going to sell some merchandise. I'll open the bitch up too.

Oh, here we go. Let me make sure. One thing I did want to ask you, because I know this one around this week, your sense, is Danny Dunn after 27? Well, you know, he says never say never, but I think he's pretty resolute. I mean, there's so many variables. Like, I still wonder if he wins this championship. Last year. Yeah, you know, just check out then.

And I think this is well too thought out, way too methodical to do anything other than that. But again, like Denny said, you never say never in this industry. For sure. The one person I wanted to give a shout out to this week was Retzloff. That kid is succeeding expectations. Him and credited Danny Eflin, too, the crew chief. Danny was out the 25 car last year, got that team in the playoffs. They're performing again.

I don't even know where there are. It's probably eighth or ninth in points. You look, I think he's, he's, he's, one point from being ahead of all the JGR guys in the standings right now. So, I mean, Parker, I noticed Parker back in 2020 in eye racing. And I was like, who's this kid that just keeps showing up in front of all these races? And then he just continued to overachieve, essentially, every time he gets in something, he just runs better than what you think that car's capable of.

And obviously, Vikings, they're trying to build their program over there, doing a really good job. Alfredo's not doing bad either. Like, they're pretty competitive. But the fact that he's up there contending in the top 10, almost every, every week. Qualifies well, race as well, yeah.

He got, I was laughing, Doug, the buddy of our spots for him. And Parker, like he finished his qualifying lab during day. He's like,

ah, fucking lap sucked essentially. And they're like, oh, yeah, that's your, you're first right now. You know, I think he ended up,

whatever, fourth or fifth. But it's like, you know, but that kid is super talented. And another one, though, you know,

he's going to have to find some, some money to, uh, to advance, unfortunately. But, but, but he is,

he needs, He needs a little light shine on him because he's doing a really good job this year. All right. I think that's it. We will be back next week. We are bringing back an old-timer. Oh, Casey Boats can be back next week to fill in for Carson. Todd Gillen will be the guest on the next week's show.

We will be looking forward to talking to you then after Mortonsville. Hopefully me and Tommy will have a clock in our houses from the modified race on whatever the hell night that is. Sunday, maybe. Yeah, I picked them in the race. So, but yeah, hopefully there's some clocks coming our way next week. Thank you guys for listening. Matt, thank you again for joining on late notice. I didn't call Matt until maybe Friday or Saturday.

When he got thrown out. Once he got banned, I said, this is a good week to have Matt. Since you don't have anything to do. Since you're not going to be driving back from Hop, you might as well come back out with us. But Matt, thank you again for coming. I'm sure you'll be back numerous times. But thanks for listening. We'll be back next week.

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