Door Bumper Clear - Indy & Mark Martin: Freddie is a Brickyard 400 Winner

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

Mark Martin joins Freddie Kraft, Tommy Baldwin, and Karsyn Elledge this week for a brand-new episode of Door Bumper Clear. Freddie is fresh off his first Brickyard 400 win as a spotter and tells us all about the post-race celebration that went deep into the morning. It was the perfect week for Mark Martin to join the show, as JR Motorsports celebrated its 100th win on Saturday. Mark was the 1st driver to win in JRM equipment, and he tells us the controversial ending of that day in Las Vegas. Plus, the crew debates whether a season-long points format or a playoff format is the better way to crown a champion going forward. #AskDBC, Reaction Theatre, DBC Picks, and Shitshow Hall of Fame are also back this week! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. Called me Frat Freddy the other day in a group tech. Or he just misspelled fat. Either way, he can kiss my ass. Let's fight, let's get it over with us. Knock each other out and let's move on. I think he's a whiny. That's what I think.

Next thing you know, I got no firesuit on. Routy Nation fans are getting lucky tonight. You want to have gimmicks. Let's go all out. I would never, and here they come, never and like they never have before. Not enough, you love them. Yo, what's up, everybody? Welcome to Door Bumper Clear.

I am Freddie Kraft. Are you? Still, I think, the last time I checked this morning, Spotter for Bubba Wallace, who had a decent weekend. Decent? Come on, man. Let's go.

Big winner. I also had Dean. Dean had a good job. Yeah, top 10. I tell you, he was running well. And then Gio, I had him on Friday night. That did not go well. We had a long night Friday night.

But yeah, Tom, we won the brickyard. Yeah, man. How awesome is that, huh? I can't really put in the words at all. It's a special deal, man, winning those type of races. And congratulations to you and your team. And, yeah, how's it feel to be like an outsider and coming into NASCAR and winning a race? Yeah, we just showed up this week.

Yeah, you know, we don't normally run, but we just figure we come out of the woodworks. It looks like it because all of a sudden, here you are, right? Oh, man, I'm sure we'll talk all about that. Carson, how are you today? I'm great. Didn't have near as an exciting weekend as you guys probably. But yeah, I'm pumped for you, Freddie. I'm not going to lie. I shed a little tear last night. I did. Yeah, I might have shed a couple myself. But I'm not the only guest in the house that it had a busy week last week.

Mark Martin, welcome back to door bumper clear. Well, thank you, Freddie. Monumental win, man. You know, something I wouldn't know anything about. You want plenty. I don't want him to hear your shit. We've won plenty. Yeah, it was, I'll tell you, there's not, it's not all sunshines and rainbows when you win this race. My knees are fucked up. I know if you're kissing the bricks.

Yeah, yeah, I know. It hurt, right, yeah. You're not used to that type of exercise. My shit is scratched up. I was like, God, we were doing it. And you got to take a different picture. Oh, yeah. It's a real pain.

It's like exercise almost for you. Oh, yeah. We can't have any of that. I really, I did have that thought. I was like, it does. It can't, it can't feel good. I bet you burn like 300 calories to that. I don't, yeah.

Well, I got them back later. You're basically doing squats. Talk about the race, because obviously I was kind of tuned in to just our race at that point. Probably not the best race that we've ever had there. It's probably not a lot of passing, clean air, but it's always been indie, you know. And I don't care how that race is. That race on the Oval is a thousand times better for me than the race on the road course mark. I assume you would agree with that.

Yes, I do. Yeah, absolutely. Need to be on the Oval. It's a fantastic racetrack. And there is some good racing, you know. All through the history, I expected that racetrack to not race well when we first went up there and checked it out because of the nature of it being flat and everything. But it turns out to be some good racing. Just look at Saturday's race.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That seems to be the case a lot. The Saturday races tend to be a little bit better than the Sunday races for some reason lately. But, yeah, again, and shout out to junior motorsports. I can't talk today at all. You get a free pass.

A 100th win. Carson, I know you had your hands and all that. Yeah, yeah. Did you set the car up this week? I sure did. And look, on that topic, I will never, when I tweeted this week, I was like, 100 wins for J-R-M. I was never going to say we ever again after Daytona.

I got my ass jumped for saying we, and they're like, what the fuck did you have to do with it? Zillich. Nothing. Zillet just walked in and I was trying to get his attention to say hello to Marcus. You had number one, the first winner of Junior Motorsports. Yeah. Right? And then 100th.

And he just, he got nervous and he scooted out. I don't know what happened. Mark, you were like, as Tommy mentioned, you were the first winner for a race here at Junior Motorsports. I think you said it was Vegas. What was that day like, you know, getting that team their first win? Well, it was really cool. And they were on the verge.

Actually, the story is Brad Kesslowski thought he was going to deliver the first win. Even though we were probably had the best car, but we had a pit stop. and after the pit stop right at the end of the race, Carl and Brad were in front of me. I had better tires. And Carl and Brad were running side by side. And they kept running side by side. And I'm like, y'all sort this out so I can go on up there and win the race.

So I thought I would give Carl a little push. And it wiped out Carl and Brad. Good job, Mark. Good job. Yeah. So it wasn't too pretty. And Brad has never forgot it. but yeah

Did he send you a text the other day? Did he send you a text reminding you? That should have been me winning the first one. What were you running for springs in that car, by the way? Yeah. How do you, I know you've posted stuff like this on the internet. Like the memory you have, I've heard you talk about, you know, some of the old setups and stuff.

I mean, how far back does that go? Well, you know, because I did the setup, on all my ASA cars. You know, I remember if you can show me a picture of 1978 or 79 or 77 or 80, I can tell you what's in the car. I didn't keep notes back then. I just remembered it. And just John Martin, most of you guys don't know him, but he was, he did some indie car racing

and stuff. He bought a Dylan car when I was up at Dylan. And I heard him tell my mother a couple of times in the background, he'd point to his head and say, point to me and say, steel trap. You know, like my mind was a steel trap. Well, it was for racing, but I didn't let anything else into my brain except that stuff. Exactly. The stuff that won races were tires and chassis set up and arrow and body.

And those things, there was nobody at the racetrack that knew more about that than I did. you know, maybe Gary Ballou, maybe Junior Hanley. But, you know, beyond those guys, I was on top of it. Yeah, for sure. It's going back to yesterday. It's just the race played out perfectly for us. Charles and the guys on the box did an unbelievable job calling that race. You saw, we talked about it.

You know, we're not a lot of passing for the lead. So if you can get clean air, you know, it was kind of king at that point. And they just did a really good job of running a little bit longer in that second stage. so that we had to take a little bit less fuel on the final pit stop with two tires and we cycled ahead of, I think we were running like fifth or six at the time. We cycled up to second behind the 22,

22 blows a tire and now we're kind of in position to win the race. And thanks our buddy Tyler was back there with his nose kicked in, holding up the rest of the line for us to get away by five seconds. And then Larson was coming. I don't know. I think he was going to catch us at the end,

but it would have been a hell of a wreck when he's trying to get around this. But yeah, but then it's almost better because I you know it's and it sucks to think about this stuff like afterwards but you know you don't want to cater to the people that are the haters of the world or whatever you wanted to cater more to the fans but you know I was like I was almost better off like obviously in the moment I'm like please let this fucking thing stay green like he I think he's gonna get us but I'm not sure and then it starts raining and I'm like son of a bitch now we're gonna have to beat him and at the time he was he just ran us down from five seconds back so I'm obvious he's obviously got a better car than we do at this point and I'm like now we're gonna have to beat him on restarts. Charles tells me, he's like, Freddie, we only got enough fuel for one restart. He goes, if they wreck on this restart, we got a pit. And I'm like, oh, so of course, we go down a backstretch and here they are all wrecking each other.

I thought it was Redick. I was MF and Reddick to no end in his spotter. I'm like, did you guys cause this wreck that's going to cause us to race? And up until off a turn four, we were coming to Pitt Road. And I think they opened pit road so fast that it caught Charles unexpected, you know, kind of caught him off guard. And I was like, I said, pit road's open. And usually you get the response right away. all right, we're staying out, we're coming, whatever.

And it was, pit road's open. And it was silent. And I was like, all right, they're thinking about it. And then, right, we got up a four, in the four. He's like, fucking stay out. And I was like, all right. What else are you going to do at the time? I mean, the thing is that our stuff is so accurate now.

I mean, they know exactly how much throttle bubber is applying every second of the race. And to be six miles off. I mean, reality was there was six miles off any day to burnout, and he did a burnout, multiple burnout. So it ran out backing up onto the platform to go up in victory lane. Perfect time. Yeah. Yeah.

So, you know, I mean, either they were bluffing, which, you know, it's been, you know, done time to time. Yeah. I'm guessing maybe. No, I don't. Come on. Six miles off. They were not bluffing. I assure you because they were, I was getting text messages that were not, you know, the text message would usually come in and say, we're good, just manage it a little bit.

There was, we were not good. The number one question there is, is how much conversation did you guys have after, you know, why it was raining? Where were you going to start? What were you going to do? Because you had teammates. You know, you both had teammates behind you. So, and it was crazy that once you guys picked your spots, your teammates went the opposite way. It was like, I don't want to mess his race up.

I don't want to mess his race up. Well, I think it was, it was, it was so the way the thought process for us was, we're taking the bottom, no matter what. You know, that was just where we're going to go. And we expected the five officers to take the top and the 24 to pick behind us and not push us. And then we were trying to figure out. Then it's another game within a game where does Denny now pick behind the five? Well, I'll tell you why. So does Denny now pick behind the five and not push the five and just let us go side to side?

Or does he pick behind the 24 and try to shut the 24 to make him push us? So that's kind of why he did that. Plus it's helping his race because to his point, you know, if I'm not going to push him up there, I'm not like I have a shitty restart for myself and now I'm going to be at the mercy of all these guys behind me. So it was a little bit for him, a little bit for us. But yeah, it's just it was nice that I was worried that he didn't pick up there because I was like, pick behind him and don't push. Like we're not going to get a push.

And it's even. I was worried that 21 was going to push to five by us. But Bubba just had two really good restarts and then nailed turn one. And the rest is history. Thank God. I was screaming at that car down the backstretched, don't run out. You son of him. Yeah.

Yeah. And everybody else that said they were going to run out, ran out. I mean, the 24 ran out. So Blaney was there last night. And he's like, you know, they told me coming to green. He said there's three guys that are in really trouble. The 23, the 21, and the 24 are the ones that are in the word shape fuel-wise. So he goes, you know, we take the white.

And I'm like, oh, we got the white. I don't know. He just in the top 10. Somebody's like, I got the white. He goes, I go through one and two and the 21's out. He's like, I come off a two and the 24's out. He's like, and now I'm trying to look up around the corner to see if I can see if Bubba's going to make it or not. And he obviously we did, but it was fun.

He's just, you know, the fact that these guys are that in tune during the race, right? We're trying to find their buddies and stuff. And you mentioned that the race isn't very exciting. It's a lot of passing. But to us, crew chiefs and the people that are involved, that is probably the most technical, strategic race that we do. Because, I mean, the 22 and the two seemed like they had really, they were off strategy, but it ended up probably going to be the best strategy.

unfortunately it didn't play out but yeah it was a lot of different thought processes during the race and it you know what it all it all stems on where you're running right and what you're doing and who you're racing against and what you want to do and you know the 11 they had to do a whole different deal right from start and last to get to that and that's hard what the 11 did yesterday at a place like Indy is really hard and another good like checkpoint for them of building what they're getting ready to do in these places. So, oh, yeah, you made the playoffs, too. No more of this.

Now you don't have to worry about this. I said, nobody say the fucking word points to me for at least four weeks. You don't need to. And you moved up like four or five spots. You know what happened? I get to the party last night and Wheels goes, hey, we're only a few points at a tenth. That's another playoff point. I said, we'll shut the fuck out.

Yeah, yeah. No more. I had enough of this. But talking about that way in letting strategy play out, Mark, how, how difficult is that sometimes in the seat where you just want to go, obviously, blitz up through there, but you have to run a little bit different pace or a little bit different strategy in your own in the seat to let the strategy play out. There's a lot more strategy now than there, you know, you never had to do that.

Yeah. You know, back when, when I race, there were two or three guys that maybe would do something strategic, but your main thing, your main strategy was have the fastest car and drive it to the front and manage things, manage the tires and whatnot. But, you know, you had times when Jeff Bodine, for example, taught us a lesson at Watkins Glen, you know. But now there's so much analytics and, you know, so much going on. Plus, a 20th place car, as I don't know, let's say he's three-tenths off the top car. Well, when I was racing, the 20th place car was three-quarters of a second off.

Yeah. So you put the 20th place car in front of the fastest car. and he wasn't going to last very long up there, even if you had an arrow, you know, stuff coming into play. But the real problem of passing today, even though we do have arrow issues, is that the 20th place car ain't that slow. And so it's hard to pass. So all this analytics has come into it and strategies and everything.

But the cool thing that I like seeing about you guys win is you're making a big. big deal out of the win. And that's what I want to see. Somehow or another, making the playoffs has overshadowed the wins. Every single win is huge. And we've lost that. Somehow with this win and you're in, the attention is shifted. And I like seeing it be a big deal when you win a race.

Because when you win a race, it's a big deal. and you're a bad mofo and you should get credit for it you your team and everyone well actually they do right they're into playoffs which i mean i know it's contradicting to what you're saying because you don't like this format at all but but really it's catering to the guys that are winning right mark i mean every every other sport that we watch or deal with right you're placed off your wins right i mean whoever wins the most i mean and everybody's like well you know you're you win one should you be in? Well, the consistency. Well, consistency does matter in the other sports as long as you're winning, right? And you're above the other teams that are above 500. You know,

most sports above 500, you're actually doing well nowadays, right? I mean, because it's the parody in other sports is just like our racing now. I mean, with all the free agency and all the stuff that's going on and all the other, you know, categories, baseball, football, you name it. It, it, it's evened out the team's more, like what you said, it's gone from three quarters of a second to three tenths of a second. Well, it's the same thing in the other sports, the way all the other stuff's going. So, man, I don't know.

I love winning races, right? We all love winning races and doing good. And you've been the most consistent person, how many times you finish second in points. But think of the times that if the points, did you ever think of where you would have been if the point system was like this? how you would have finished, how many championships you might or would have won.

I don't know. I mean, it's just like it's a tough deal, but unfortunately it's today's world, and we have it, and hopefully to critique it a little bit. We'll see what happens, though. Well, discrediting the champion, the current champions, is wrong. Yeah, I think they should get more points and more, you know, towards the playoffs. I know they get a big chunk, but they should. start first, far enough ahead that they still have to chase them. You are correct there.

The argument that, you know, Blaney's championship or, you know, one of these in the playoffs isn't as big a deal as Richard Petty's or Dale Earnhardt's, you know, that's not true. It's still hard, and they're racing in those rule sets, and you race somewhat differently under those rulesets. So I still, you know, obviously I'm leading the charge for what I believe, I know the majority of the fans won a 36 race season championship. That's a fact. And then that's over 50 percent.

And then the next 30 percent won a 10 race chase. So it's an 80-20 issue, whether it's a playoffs or not playoffs. for the fans. However, I'm also smart enough to know that, you know, the TV broadcasters and NASCAR and the owners are all addicted to the revenue that they bring, whereas in my day, the revenue came directly from the fans as, you know, from ticket sales and whatnot. And it's a different day in age, but, you know, I just, I will shut up leading that charge when they tell us the truth. And I know what the truth is, but when they tell, we'll just come out and say, hey, look, we know the majority of the fans would rather see a full 36 race, you know, championship.

But here's why we're not going to do it. Just do that. And that's enough for me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, they can't even do statistics-wise because. The viewership and everything was so different on how we look at things back in those days. So I don't even think they can really give you a solid answer on that, unfortunately.

I mean, it's just, I don't know, man. I'm going to go with the flow with this type of situation because I know they're a lot smarter than we are of diagnosing, attracting the people to watch the TVs. and unfortunately, again, I'm saying that word a lot so far this morning. To your point, it's more important TV now than getting the fans in the stands. It is. And the crowd yesterday was, it was a good crowd, but it wasn't a normal, you know, I think it was better than last year. Yeah, I don't remember.

You don't remember much today. I'm doing all the talking today. Do you handle it? Yeah. You just hang out. today, Freddie. But yeah, I think, you know, all of it is a part of the TV viewership. And look, we're creating excitement this year. I mean, we are. But to your point, maybe some stuff needs to change. I, you know, Mark, I thought, I'm sure, I don't know if you saw it,

but Chase Elliott had, I thought, a really good media availability this weekend when he was talking about it. And he said, you know, because you hear all these fans and you're like, we don't want the 36 race schedule because, you know, somebody's going to clench a championship with three races left or something like that. And I mean, I'm sure that has happened, yes, in the past. But it doesn't happen every year. And Chase brought up the fact that we've had unbelievable regular season points. I mean, Larson and Redick were separated by a point for the regular season championship last year.

So, you know, I think that that lends itself to, you know, the parody like you guys talked about is so much closer now that I don't know that you're going to see somebody get up by 300 points like they used to. You know what I mean? It just seems like. Well, you've seen a good one now. I mean, Chase is over 100 points now. Right now he is? Yeah. But that's just, you know, he could, that with the playoff points and everything,

with the stage points and everything, it's a 60-point race. You could have a swing, you know. And to his other point, if somebody does do that and gets a 300-point lead, well, fucking good for them. They deserved it. They just kicked our ass. They deserved to win the championship. Yeah, but again, that's not what the people that are spending all the money are looking for.

Unfortunately, I mean, that's, You know, we just live in a different world right now. Yeah. Well, you know, don't forget about, you know, under the old system, 1992. I mean, it came down to Alan Kowicki leading one more lap. And so we, it's just like, and I say this all the time, it's just I don't watch any other sports, none, except for the Super Bowl every year. I watch that. And I thought this was a snoozer last year.

But it's not going to stop. It's not going to stop me from watching it next year because it might be incredible. And that's how racing is. You'll have a runaway. But if you lined them up tomorrow and ran the same race again, you know, it could be a whole different game. So, you know, people have to be patient. You can't just say, well, you know, we had one runaway championship. And, you know, that's it.

It's just the same point being. with Lugano's championship last year. Not ever championship is going to go down the way it did last year. You know, they're all different. For sure. Hey, it's Dale Jr. And for the latest DBC gear, we need you to go to shop.durdymo Media.com. We've got plenty of options, and we're adding new stuff all the time.

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We didn't even talk about. Who do you want to talk about? We got all of stuff. We got limited time with our guest today, Tom. Yeah, we only have. Catherine. Congratulations to Catherine Legg, top 17. Moving on.

She did a good job. What about Zillage? We talked about Zillage. We did three in a row. Fitted a C's. Why don't you just read that whole block right there for us? No. We can come back to it.

I can see this show is all about Freddie getting home and taking a nap. My head, course. Oh, God. Tommy's ripping his papers apart. He threw the first paper on the floor. Oh, this topic one. I love it. I feel like we're going to have some things to say about this.

Okay, I'll pick you. Me, me, me. Austin Hill appears to right hook Eric Amarola in Saturday's Exfinity race. NASCAR penalized Austin Hill, five laps for reckless driving. Should he be suspended? Take it away, Tommy. Spot on, spot off. All right, Mark, go ahead.

You said pick you. No, I want to hear him first. And don't be you. Don't do not sugarcoat this shit. So I'm a big proponent of handling your business personally, man to man. Okay, if I would have been in the 19 car, Austin Hill would probably, with one punch, knock me in the middle of next week.

I'm not sure how to handle that situation if I'm in the 19 car, because, like I say, I'm a believer in handling your stuff face-to-face. I don't know. That wasn't good. It was bullshit. He should be suspended. Listen, this happens all the time with Austin. He loses his cool.

As soon as somebody messes with him a little bit, he should be suspended. That was completely intentional. They can come up with all the ink card. I don't give a shit. That was, could have been devastating. That's a place that. That can't happen.

No. Well, and Eric even said he said that hit was on par with the one where he heard his back. And to your point, Mark, if it's Eric against Austin and if it was the same boat, I would start running from here, find his address, start running from here and gear up every piece. And when he just looked, I would just clock him. So to your point, to your point that it was a terrible, terrible thing. I mean, the guy should have gathered up his stuff up. and raced and he never does this happened at martinsville right he he caused a lot of that issue at martinsville and the infinity race there when that was a shit show he's doing it again and just because

he's a big guy and thinks he can get away with this shit he can still get knocked out right right right he can still get knocked out and on top of that he doesn't need to do that right and then for richard chilis to come to to stick up for him that's bullshit the richard children should be today should be sitting him down and going, man, that shit wasn't right. This is not how we race. Well, you hit the nail on the head. That was emotion. He reacted with an emotion that he should.

A great race car driver that he is. But, you know, a total package race car driver has to tape, you know, has to handle his emotions. Exactly. And that was an emotional move. He did it snap without thinking. And you've got to be better than that. Yep, he has gone way down on my list of race car drivers after Saturday.

That's for sure. Until he gets his shit together, go see therapy, go do something, go see some sports psychologists. Go figure your shit out of not snapping because he could have hurt somebody there. And it wasn't a good deal. Freddie, you're allowed to have your opinion now. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I agree with you. A buddy of mine had text me and he said, you know, it was, he said,

Do they have SMT? Can they figure that out? I said, y'all, yeah, they have old school SMT. He was wearing white gloves. Yep, exactly. You see him hooked that thing to the left about as hard as he could. Yeah. And Mark, maybe I just wasn't paying attention enough back in the day, but I feel like we never saw this. I mean, it was very rare that somebody would ever right hook somebody in the fence.

And I feel like now it happens three, four times a year. Is it just lack of respect for the other drivers? Is it lack of respect for the equipment that people are putting out there? Like, what do you think attributes to happening more now? Yeah, you know, it's the closeness of the cars. And I think that's why the right rear hook happens so much because rather than getting in line back behind the 19 and being able to give him a shot back, which, you know, you know you can't do now. So it was his shot to get, get him.

Right rear hooks are not good. Listen, a driver acting on a motion happens. Nobody's perfect. I've even done it in all. But I didn't right rear hook a guy. And I think that it's good that NASCAR and the whole industry's taking a stand because when you intentionally wreck somebody, we don't realize that that could kill that person.

Honestly, stop and think about it. Think about how your life would be affected if that person died. It would be horrible. So, you know, I think it's good that NASCAR taking a stand on that and the industry as well. It's not acceptable. And I'll tell you what's a really good idea, I think, anyway, is, you know, once you get done right rear in somebody and you're sitting there on pit road and NASCAR relays the

penalty to you, you tell them to go fuck themselves. You should shut the fuck up. That usually works out really well. Anytime you say, fuck you NASCAR, go fuck yourselves. I don't care what they say from this point on about the situation. They have no explanation. No. Right? If they're sitting in a room and trying to come up with all this bullshit that they have reasons why to do this, and like you talked about, Marr, it starts early. This type of shit starts early. This start when they're in these legend cars and doing all these things and not having somebody right then and there telling them that's wrong, right? These guys that constantly do these things, and it doesn't matter what division we run in, they're not being taught.

Right? And obviously, this has happened more with Austin than we know, right? It's, we witness, again, my Martin's, we listened. I mean, Saturday was terrible, man. It just, I don't know. I don't. And, you know, I don't know. I can't imagine that it was intentional, but. What do you mean? No, not that. I'm talking about yesterday. Bell right hooked the 38, and I don't know if it was just he misjudged. It was, I mean, I mean, it did.

There's nothing leading up to it that tells me that it was intentional. so I can't believe it was, but it was not a lot different that he just kind of turned into his right rear and hooked him across the back straightaway. I think he was trying to get behind him quick and misjudge. There's no way he would do it.

I don't think he's the kind of raceguard driver that would ever do that. No, and all the footage I tried to watch, I didn't see anybody if he was getting pushed behind when he was trying to do it. I did not see it. I did not look. All right.

Next up, Justin Allgaier decides to take the outside lane on a late restart, which ultimately ends in him being taken out by a loose Kyle Larson. Spot on, spot off. Mark. Ooh, yeah, that's, that, that, that, that was not good either. And, um, especially, you know, under the circumstances, um, I hated to see that.

And honestly, I'm a huge Kyle Larson fan, but I would have liked to have seen him take a more ownership than he did. He didn't, you know, he didn't take enough ownership for me in that accident. because it was that he missed the corner he missed the corner I mean just and he missed the corner on the last restart with you guys yesterday it's just

I just don't you know for me the biggest thing like I don't understand and I love Justin the death like what why is he taking that I know you probably just just took the lead from there you are trusting Larson trusting Larson trusting a really really good race car driver

still you're not I the bottom is so much more preferred I you know I have to go back and see how he got the lead if Larson didn't get a great push on the bottom or whatever it was to let him get the lead from the top. But Mark, how difficult would that be? I know you obviously didn't run many, if any, choose Cohen races in your career. But, you know, how difficult would that be if you take the top, you know, the bottom is such a preferred groove there, but you get the lead from the outside on the restart prior to that. How difficult does that decision become in that moment? For me, it would have been really incredibly difficult because you see so much momentum on the

outside nowadays on these restarts is preferred in many ways but you have to be able to count on the guy on the inside not running you up and that that would be my biggest concern i felt like justin had starting on the outside he had the upper hand uh but you know you're vulnerable to being shoved up there or you know a guy losing it on the inside of you so uh you know it's It's, you know, it's just a difficult situation. And I don't fault Justin for the choice to go into the outside. I think that was the best momentum, even though the inside did show to be better a lot of times, especially with those cars and the power.

Yeah. I think the outside was a good choice. Yeah, it's, it's, you're just like you said, you're just putting yourself at the mercy of that other, you know, like you're not really, you're not really in control your own destiny as the control car. You know what I mean? because you're just, if that happened, you know, you're done. Your day's end. I think if he takes bottom, he gets beat anyway. You think so?

Yeah, yeah. I think with the Xfinity cars, I think the momentum because of the package was better for those two corners, maybe three corners. It was just too much energy there. Unfortunately, you know, 17 got free again. Free again. Free again. He's gotten free a lot there lately. He's gotten free a lot.

Since May. been getting free in those areas. Oh, man. All right. Austin Cendrick and Joey Lugano both have right rear tire failures while leading the Brickyard 400. Freddie? Really, I want to go to Tommy for this.

I assume low air. Is that what we're thinking on like the tire issues? A little too much camber. We're on the stops a lot down the straightaway, a lot of energy. I think it starts with the air and the stop. early and then the camber take it's all all of all of the above the amount of laps they've run on it because they did run you know longer laps at times yeah yeah I think all of it contributes there I think at the end probably they were a little

over Cambered and wore the inside of the tire out and then it then it goes mark as a driver you know I know you were probably in that era of everybody putting camera in the right front blowing right fronts like where did you want to fall on that line of, you know, do you just want all the speed you can get and try to manage it from there? Or do you want, did you want your guys to maybe back up just a little bit to have a little bit more, you know, room for error on the, on, you know, tire side of things? Dude, I wanted it both. You know, I wanted my tire to last and I wanted the camber two.

And it was a, it was kind of a double-edged sword just like it is today. A little short story, Carl and that bunch, you know, uh, um, They ran straight up right front tires. I mean, no camber at all. And still outran us, so it really pissed me off because we did sit in there on the knife edge with the camber and they outrun you. So, you know, it's just the whole package.

That's racing. Tommy knows that's what you do. You cut it, you slice it on the ragged edge. Yeah, I mean, back in Mark's days, I think the max camber we were, allowed to run on the right rear was two degrees, maybe 1.5, then they increased, or it was two. It was around two. We could run almost four now, you know, with the rule package. So we obviously we run a lot more. And with the cars being so low and not going up and down, like back in Mark's days,

you know, in the beginning, it stays. So it's constantly on there, on that tire and the way it runs. So the heat gets generated on the inside of the tire a lot longer, and especially a place like Indy and Pocono, where we always had right-front tire problems. You know, and so, yeah, it contributes, all that contributes to it now. And, yeah, it's about how far you want to go, right, Mark? It's about what you want to do. Yep.

It's fun. Yeah, it's, it's, it's 43 had a camera. No, they didn't have a, they had a, they had a lot of, they had a lot of, they had a lot of camera, and I think coming down at the road when the wheel was filed, fold it up into the and man you know that was just another and that you know I was talking

some of the picker guys on our plane last night obviously loose wheel falls off he hits the fence that's a stop they're waiting on fuel on that stop you know so it's like you know how does that happen but you know I talked to Eric last night and thankfully he's okay because that was a big hit he was running

really well he had a really good weekend you know good strategy they were pretty good yeah he was right there I mean he was top five he was right there with us all day pretty much. We chopped the hell out of him into one and he pushed like a dump truck. Poor guy. Sorry about that, Eric. Is that your call? I think

Pubba was probably going either way if I said it or not, but I did say it too. Well, it's always great to hear Mark's opinions and spot on, spot off. I'm super glad he could join us this week. And we also again want to thank our friends at Fox Factory Vehicles. Welcome to the Fast Lane with Fox Factory Vehicles, delivering the thrill

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which I'm also glad he asked this because I was going to ask you the same thing earlier, Freddie. Oh, God, I didn't look at it. Genuinely, what's it like getting from the spotter stand to Victory Lane? Are you like on a full out sprint as soon as the checkered flat?

Well, we know you, we know you're not sprinting. I mean, but like, what are you, what's it like getting? Because I was watching yesterday and I'm like, where's Freddie? Where's Freddie? Where's Freddie? And I didn't see you until they were like actually in victory lane.

It's like, what's that journey like? Yeah, so it's obviously a little bit different then it's kind of a little bit different everywhere. Like when we won Talladega, I went to my car, drove the car into the infield and got there. It was also raining, so that helped. Kansas, I think we drove in there to Jason Jarrett drop me off Victory Lane. Yesterday, traffic kind of gets jammed up around there.

I was going to drive in. I was like, this is probably, I probably don't even know from the parking lot of men. I don't know if I can drive in that. I can't go that way down 16th Street. So I was like, I'm just going to walk. So I went down the front straightaway, and I'm like, I don't know how to get in this.

You know, I see some photographers, and you get, like, crawl under a gate to get there. So I just, I mean, there's no, there's no, there was a lot of exercise. Believe it or not, believe it or not, there was no sprinting. I got to be honest. But, you know, it was kind of a way to get down off the roof that kind of gets jammed up there, leaving the spotter stand.

So we got down there. So I walked down the front stretch and it's funny because I see the photographers and they're walking along the fence. I'm like, oh, they know where to go. I'm going to follow these guys. So there's a little hole in the fence. So I am, there's a person standing here to my left and I see the hole and there's I don't see a gate.

And I'm like, I'm going to fucking have to jump this fence. I don't know if I'm not that. I'm not that. I don't know if I got that much. Holy shit. I don't know if I got that much athleticism in me. So right as I'm about to jump the fence, the guy next to me, steps back. He's like, you want to just use this gate right here? I was like, whew, thank God.

So we went out through there and, you know, and then met Bubba on pit road and went with the guys to victory lane. And it was, it was really funny. Shout out to all the DVC fans because there was there was Bubba chance. There was Freddie chance. There was shit going on. I wanted to be like the maestro on the orchestra like everybody, I guess. and then bring them back down. Soke it up, man.

It was something to see. There was some MAPES, I think, tweeted it from the Xfinity account. There was somebody screaming, I mean, take it off while we were standing on the bricks. And I was like, somebody, come to the crew guys, like, do it, do it. I'm like, there's way too many cameras for here for me to lose my shirt. And sure enough, as soon as I went home, I was looking last night, MAPS tweeted it. So I was like, yeah, there would have definitely been a video of my fat ass running down to frustration. On the Xfinity account.

Nobody wanted to see that. Your dad's race was Saturday night, right? Yeah, so that, you know, I tweeted this out last night. Kevin Hamlet actually posted a funny picture of it. I'm probably going to start bawling, a little kid here. You know, yesterday was probably the last time I talked to my dad. That day, you know, he died tomorrow is the day he passed away. So that was a lot, you know, in that moment.

I'm like, you son of a bitch, do not let me fucking run out of gas here, please? Maybe that's why you guys didn't run out of gas. I was pissed because they put out a post that racing was canceled until August at Riverhead. Oh, really? Yeah. But it was Sunday's race. But they put it out Saturday, and I don't know the date. You know, so I didn't even turn on flow.

Flow. Go ahead. Flow. Oh. If you would like to get 15% off of your subscription, you can go to flow sports. Dot link slash door bumper clear. Yeah, so I don't turn it on, right, for that reason. And all of a sudden, I'm hearing some stuff on, on.

some chatter. I turned it on. I missed everything. Yeah. I haven't gone back to watch yet. My cousin was announcing, I heard, so I got to go back and see how he did. I told him if you don't do Bob Fine and's figure 8 call, you know, the intro that he always did. You've seen him on Wide World of Sport. And unfortunately, the kid that

we were probably the closest with in the field, Ryan Warren, who drove from my dad for the last years when my dad's owned the cars, he led the whole damn race and got wrecked in the last corner. Wasn't in the figure eight. Wasn't in the cross. No, no, no. He just got run. I shouldn't say he got react he got knocked out of the way in the last corner to win the race um so it was i mean congrats to all the guys

they won we put up some money for that and it was it was a it's a fun weekend shout out to my cousin erran she kind of handles all that and gets everything prepared so uh yeah cool weekend for that uh interesting weekend it was uh it hit home i was i was all weekend it was it was one of those weeks i don't know you guys have probably had this mark i'm sure sometimes you just feel like some shit's going differently and uh got to the hotel my was on i was on the ninth floor you know it's just one of those week. So, it was just, it was, you know how my week went? Oh, shit. Everything was shit all week. Well, I'm going to blame Luke for that.

Don't even talk about it. All right, DBC picks. Tommy won with Alex Bowman and guests are still whooping our ass. No. They're not whipping our ass. I mean, okay, they're still whipping my ass, not yours. All right, Freddie, you're first. Go ahead. I will take my buddy, had a good day yesterday. Sorry, I

overshadowed it. Sorry, I probably ruined his day with us winning. Ryan Priest. That's a good pick. Is a good pick. Am I next? What's happening? Iowa. I'm going to go with John Hunter Nebuchack. I don't have shit ass left.

Shit or ass, huh? Nope. That's good. All right, it's Mark's turn. Mark, you're up. Anybody that's not great out on their guest list there. I'd like to see Haley. He hadn't shown much this year, but it would be really, really cool to see them hit it. Yeah, we ran good with him last year. That's a good, that's a good pick. All right, maybe one of us will win this week since the guest picked Justin Haley.

I wasn't saying we were done. He said one of us. Tom, you're one of us. Oh, I am one of us. Who am I? What page are we are? I'm going to pick Catherine Legg. No, she's not racing this week.

I'm going to pick Eric Jones. Oh, me and you. Legacy Motor Club. Oh, you said it right. I know, Mark, you kind of chimed in there when I picked Ryan. How much do you relate to a guy like priest that's, you know, he's not, you know, he's not a, just, you know, buy a ride kind of guy. You know, he's a guy that works on his own shit.

He goes racing as much as he can with his own stuff. You know, how much do you relate to somebody like that more so than some of these younger kids that are just coming into with money? A hundred percent. I love, you know, I love to see someone that, you know, can build their own race car. And Ryan is so happy to see him running so good this year. really didn't see that coming with a new team and with where RFK has really been. You didn't expect that.

So I really hope that he gets a win. That was a great pick. He's been running great. But he's a good dude, and we need some of that. It's all, you know, you need variety. And I like the fact that, you know, he can work on his own stuff. He can build his modified. He can race it, do it all.

you know that's kind of like Busher was for the longest time you know Chris would come to RFK and work on shocks build things you know Majesky is another one I like you know I like those guys and I'm an underdog lover too

you know because I was an underdog once and so you know I always pull for underdog so that's why I was so happy to see BJ McLeod and Catherine have a great another great run.

It's because I'd love to see BJ have more success. He's had plenty. He's got plenty of money in his pocket now. So he's doing just fine. He's just playing right now, Mark. And they're doing well. So don't ever feel bad about BJ from this point on. Tommy, how much, you know, you lived that side of things for BJ.

But, you know, I know to some people from the outside looking in, 17th might not look super impressive. but it is, I think, really, really impressive that, you know, how hard is it to run 17th? You know, you're back there fighting for your life as well every week. It's hard. And from how she started the weekend to where she was probably by lap 20, it was probably a two and a half second difference of what she was doing, really. And look, they played it right.

They weren't in the wrecks. They played the little strategy right. I think she finished on the lead lap. She's quietly, I mean, Mark mentioned earlier off camera when we were talking about her. You know, Phoenix, she had it rough, right? But from that point on, she's learned. I mean, she's only, what, five, six races in? And she's finishing 17th with the 70th team that hardly has any help, right?

It's the same old group that they're a bunch of racers, right? And unfortunately, they're another open car, right? So it didn't make, you know, used to make that race. it was $130,000 just to make that race and obviously they didn't make that much. But kudos to Catherine. She's doing it quietly, right? There's no big, big thing, a big splash. She's coming in.

She's working hard and doing well. Kudos to all of them. She earned a badge of honor yesterday because I definitely MFed her at one point because it was like, you know, and Mark you'll know this, obviously like kind of racing it again, especially at a place like that. You know, people, everybody really cut us breaks yesterday when we were lapping them. They stayed up, gave us the bottom lane as we got there sometimes. And she, and it's not really her fault.

It's just what you become, you know, you get to expect. So we ran her down and she pulled over down the front stretch to the bottom. And I was like, all right, good. She's going to give us the top here and we'll be able to. She was racing for the lead at that point. She fucking drove into the court. No, I just after her pitch stop, I think. And she drove into one and raced us through one and two.

So now we're like, like, Bubba committed like expecting her to like lift on entry and let us get clear. And she didn't. And we fucking, we had to rip the second lane there. And I was holding my breath. And I was like, son, I look, it costs us like a half a second. That's all I could think about is Larson's running this down. I'm like, I'm like, I'm a bitch, we're going to need that half a second back. But, yeah, like I said, she, obviously would wish that she would just kind of let you have the corner and get gone.

She was trying to stay on the lead lap. We were alone. Listen, but listen. Don't just think about you at that time. Stop being a woman hater, buddy. It's a badge of honor for me to start MFing you up there. Mark, I know you got to get out of here, man. We appreciate it.

please keep beating that drum as somebody that I know it's probably very unrealistic. I would love to see that 36 race come back or some kind of 10 race, but something. So just I know you probably take some heat from it. People start talking shit about you that doesn't want to admit it. You think he cares. I know he doesn't care. That's why he's here today. You think Mark Martin cares about that.

Hey, man, thanks for having me on the show. You guys got the best show going. I appreciate that. Thank you for joining us. And we will see you the next time, which hopefully isn't too long from now. Sooner than later, for sure. Sounds good, guys.

Thanks, buddy. Thanks, buddy. All right, it's time for reaction theater where fans can call in and voice their opinions on this week's race. I'm sure we have lots about our friend Freddie here. So let's get into it. That was one.

That was it. Well, unfortunately, now I can't hear the rest of them. I got news for you guys. That was me. Sorry. Was it? No, it wasn't. Did you call it?

Yes, yeah? You showed up. Is this all of them? Everyone just screaming about Bubba and Freddie? There's a lot of them. I'm already done with it. Don't we have Iowa this week? You were just saying?

I'm over with it. He changes mine. Oh, wait, hold on one second. So I talked to Kyle Busch and he has committed to his fans that he has won six Legends races and it's equal to a cup win. Oh, so he's given the fans. Good news, everybody.

For all the guys. All the guys to go for it. And he said it with his smile. He went, Look, and that's the inhale. Let's go. I'm going to assume that was a gentleman that was screaming. Had to be.

Had to be. They were very disappointed in me. I was like, they wanted you to drink a beer. Oh, yeah. I couldn't find. You don't have any idea. No beer. No beer.

It never is. You got to be prepared for that. I know. There's only one truck that has beer. Every time J.R.M. One truck that has beer. It's the one truck. and they were already packed up.

Everybody, I got back to, I'm like, I haven't seen a beer yet. Like I said, we need a beer sponsor. We have to go out and try a little harder. And I don't know if you're going to do it with an open team. Yeah, it's going to be hard getting sponsors with an open team. Well, I'll be, Bubba save that fuel, and he's got a win and in the playoffs, I can assume Freddie's check liver light will be on soon. Checking light.

It was, I honestly didn't go very hard yesterday. No, I didn't do any fireball. I was, it was, honestly, it was, it was really, really hot yesterday. It was, and, you know, and I just, by the time I got to Bubba's, I mean, I, trust me, I drank my fair share of beer, but I did not go full ap shit. Full tilt. Like, we're probably going to go tonight. I would imagine. But, yeah, so I, Dougie, I had to give Doug a one day reprieve.

Oh, you let. So he got one day off yesterday. He was like, I was like, I said, don't call me when you get home. I said, okay. That was the first text in a group text. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck.

And we knew exactly what that. You knew exactly why he was saying that because it was going to be a long night. He said, I need a day. I said, you get one day. We're going tomorrow. Where are you going? I don't know.

I haven't made any decisions yet, but no. You're coming. I mean, so. I hope you guys have a great time. Carson, you might be invited. We'll see what kind of established. I don't know if auntie is allowed in this type of environment. What kind of environment?

You never know. We might end up at Ruth's Chris. Ruth Chris. What are you fucking saying? I'm not classy enough for Ruth's Chris? No. No, it's, it's, I don't know if we can tell that story. What, is it a strip club?

No, of course not. It's a steakhouse. Anyway, in to plenty of shrimp clubs, guys. Bubba won the brickyard. Does that mean he gets to motorboat Freddy's big old kitty? You know, I don't appreciate. Why did I envision her? I don't appreciate.

I just envision Bubba because that's bad. Alex, I don't appreciate the, I don't even know what the word. You don't even have manned. Sex. Yes, I do. You know, I feel like I'm being objectified here, Alex. I don't appreciate this. How's it feel? How's it feel? How's it feel?

Yeah, yeah. I hate to sound too much like Austin Hill here, but get fucked NASCAR. When's the last time I opened cars won? And a crown jewelry? Oh, it's going to be good. Still no bonus for you. Hopefully we get that bad. They retro pay that stuff?

Nope, if you win. No, you're done. You got a whole $23,000 for winning. That was all the calls. That was all the good. That was all the good. That was all the good. That's good.

Congratulations. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. My favorite part of the week, shit show Hall of Fame, where we nominate someone and fans vote on Twitter or X,

whatever the hell it's called, on who gets inducted. Last week, the Coldplay couple obviously won. Really? Yeah. I think we're going to have another landslide this week, too.

Yeah, I would say. There's actually, I didn't think this first one was going to be beatable. Are we allowed to watch, show this? No. Since it's FS1 or was it flow as well? FS1.

Can we pretend it was flow? Can we just cover it there a little bit? Just go to our, I'm sure we'll tweet all this video's out. The Archer crash was the where I started. I did not think the Archer crash was going to be beatable. They don't call it Arca Breaks for no reason. This thing is going wild over here. It should drive me crazy.

Um, we got a fight. Oh, this was a big fight. Boo Carlisle sent me this video. So I sent it to you guys already tagged me or somebody in this video. These guys are swinging on each other. We'll tweet the video out. These are haymaker. I got caught right there.

That I heard a lot. But wasn't it that this racetrack, they said if you fight on the front stretch, we'll pay you. But if you fight in the pits, we'll find it. Oh, yeah, maybe. And this is how every fight should be. Get away from them. And once they go to the ground, now you can. Just like hockey.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, you let them fight and then they get paid an extra $50 from what Boob was told to settle their differences in front of the fans. And this guy came running from across the racetrack. They should get more than $50. Oh, he put him right down to his knee right there. And he got up, man. He's still swinging.

That guy's got an iron jaw. But, yeah, so he, that was one of my favorites. Oh, my God. He took that hit and still got him. Tommy, what would you do in a fight like this? Tommy. Tommy. Hey, I will say, I got to tell you.

you something. This is going to be unbelievable. You know Foster from JGR? I know you know. If you saw him. He confirmed to me yesterday on the plane that the Chicago incident was not a fight. I know.

I'm just trying to back you up here. I don't need any backup. I know. I'm talking about for the people out there that don't believe you. I don't care. I'm just, you know, Foster said he said, you want to know the funny part about that was he goes, wasn't even a fight. He goes, Tommy come down there and he was just yelling at Zippy. and they're...

Did he even yell? He's like just going back and forth. He just wanted to talk to Zippy. And he said as soon as he came down off the ladder, he tripped over a tire. And then everybody just thought we were fighting. So it got out of hand. Did you guys see this?

The photographer that falls off the... Yeah, just walks right. Watch the guy in the right corner. He's working, man. Yeah, he's working. Yeah, watch this. Good job. Let me get this good angle right here.

Oh, shit. Let me forget him on a barge around water. I wonder how his electronics are doing. Oh, I like how the mascot Did he throw a live preserve out? Did he? Is it the Do you life's thing? No, watch the mascot.

What does he throw out there? Oh, he grabs the life preserve. Watch. That makes it even better. That makes it even better. So the Archer X definitely got to be on there. Yeah. The fight definitely has to be on there.

There was another one. I don't think the fight's a shit show. It is a shit show. Like, it's not really, you know. This is the shit show right there. 21, right-hooking. Yeah. Armadillo.

Amadillo. Yeah, and there's not even a lot to say about it because it's just, it can't happen. We've said it on here a thousand times and it's awful. Shit show nominee number one. It probably shit show doubled down because after that shit show, you'd call another shit show on the radio. Fuck you, NASCAR. Go fuck yourselves. Here's white hands.

And here I thought without Chris Wright, we'd have. Oh, they turn left. So definitely for sure. Austin Hill will be on there. The Arker Rec. That guy, we didn't talk about it really, but that guy spun out and I was there watching. I was getting ready for truck race.

Somebody said, how long was he sitting there? Break hard had tweeted like, how long was that guy actually sitting there? I said, long enough for me to get about 12-0-nose-out. And I saw somebody, I don't know exactly when they threw the yellow because I wasn't spotting, so I didn't hear the radio communications. Somebody I thought had said that they thought they took to a while to throw the yellow, but still, like, it doesn't matter when the yellow is out.

There's still a car sitting there for five, six seconds. He criss-righted it. And here I thought without Chris Wright racing, we'd have... 21, host of Ard. And the other guy Chris righted it. Oh, man. All right. So, Arka, Exfinity, and then fish fighting on the front stretch.

So what we got? I mean, the 57. Fish fighting is not shit show. I mean, it's a fun shit show. It doesn't have to be a bad shit show. It doesn't actually have to be, like, awful. Shit show. Oh, I got a shit show for you right here.

Luke just tweeted it, actually. What did he tweet? You're supposed to be working. He tweeted, I will give $100 to anyone who can decode this message. And it says, because I've gotten these texts from Tommy, and it's fun. Figure it out, write bolt I drilled, goes through, copy that, and put new bolts. Exactly. My favorite is.

Tommy's got to fix the trailer. And he knows exactly what he needs to fix. Can you tell me what you meant so I can reply and get Luke's $100? Don't get me started. Is he on the shit list this week? Can we nominate luck? Can we talk about, can we put Luke's driving on the shit? What's driving?

On the road? The one where he sucks at. His civilian driving. The one off on the streets is questionable to say the least. But I love Tommy. It's always fun texting with Tommy sometimes because sometimes he's busy and I can tell he's talked to texting. Yeah. His accent is a little bit thick so then words get screwed up in the middle and it's, it can be quite comical.

So Luke, I feel your pain. I'm learning this AI thing. and I'm going to put it in my... Tommy. It'll fix it. So I'm figuring... It's called spell check, Tommy. No.

Listen, Tommy has been freaked out now. We, this, for like a week and a half now that his phone and his truck have figured out where he's going. Because when he gets in in the morning, it takes him to work. When he leaves first job, it takes into the modified shop. So now he's... He thinks somebody's fucking with him. The third one takes me to Iron Thunder at 6 o'clock. It's like, how do you know I even want to go there?

Tommy's like, I wasn't going to go. I'll go for one. All right. Well, remember to go vote on our shit show Hall of Fame Twitter poll on who you want to see inducted this week. Yeah, so we are going to Iowa. Thank God. I looked at the weather.

There's a, no, there's a big break in the weather. Like, it was been 96 all weekend. It goes right to the 70s for the next like five or six days. Oh, that's beautiful. In Iowa? Yeah. No way. No way.

I don't believe. it, but I look while we were there, the heat index there was like 113 degrees or something like that, and I was like, I'm going to die next week. And then we were on the plane last night. And it's hot on that spotter stand. It is just that place in general. It's down the middle of cornfield. Yeah, it is so hot.

But heading Iowa, what you get? One car this week. How would, did you guys end up out of the race yesterday? Yeah. What happened? Oh, yeah. All kinds of shit. Oh, is that why you're going to be.

Oh, so that's Tommy's being Tommy today for partially. He's got a rough day. What else is going on? The 360 nationals are out there this weekend with us at Knoxville. I was going to go over there, but unfortunately, my buddies are not racing now. So I don't think I'll make it over there. Just probably for the fact that it's going to be hot, I assume, even though. You're going to have a rough week.

I mean, you're going to have a, we won, we won, then it's like, oh, shit, I don't feel good. And then, oh, shit, it's Iowa. and then you're going to just sit on your ass when you're not spot. The truck spot racing? No trucks this week, just Xfinity. That was a very emotional day for you to trucks. You were not happy. You and Doug were racing.

Yeah, I think they ended up. They found an issue with two of the trucks that we were just struggling really badly. And I was slugger is part of the reason why I'm doing this truck. And I was not being very kind to him in text messages. He was in Sonoma with the drags, right? Yeah. But yeah, Iowa this weekend again, shout out to all the DBC fans yesterday. You guys were, I was really cracking up, walking around there.

Victory Lane, they were going nuts. Jordan Bianchi's like, this is ridiculous. He was walking around with me. I was sitting, I was in Victory Lane. And it's kind of a weird deal. They go up on the platform there. But then above you is another platform. I assume it's on the pagoda.

And that's where TNT was set up. So I heard somebody like, Freddy, I look up at his Dale. Like, he's pointing down. I was like, hey, man, what's up? I should have went up there That's probably where the fucking beer was I guarantee it They always have drinks on that after

I know I didn't think about that Amazon It's the same group of people I don't know if they can drink on On network TV probably Oh that's fair Hey I will say congratulations Ty Gibbs I thought

Oh yeah we forgot about it It was so hyped on Ty Dylan Ty Gilles one We said fuck it Hey it was pretty cool though He gave 10,000 dollars To Ty's charity Yeah

He said Ty can do whatever he wanted That's awesome, man. On the way. And listen, I thought that some bitch is going to pull it out again because I looked up on that last wreck and Ty was in it. And I was like, Ty Gibbs was in it. Yeah. And Ty Dillon was three laps down or something like that.

But I was like, holy shit, this 54's in this wreck again. Just kidding you going to pull this out for a million dollars. And unfortunately, they got, well, not unfortunate. Unfortunately for Ty, they got the thing back out there and rolled around for the last restart. It was so cool all and all, though. Just everything surrounding it. And Ty was hype. Did it do what you expected it to do?

the in-season challenge. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's what you expect. You know what's really funny. I have to go back and look. Oh, for sure. If they had seeded it, let me just confirm this with the finishing. There's a finishing order in here somewhere else. Yeah.

So as I was screaming for them to seed it by the points, do you know who would have been the million dollar winner if they would have been seated by points? If you say 77, Tommy's going to flip this fucking table. So it's a deal because if where they cut the seating off, you'd have to, Bubba would be the winner on one of them if they had cut the seating off three races before like they did. But if they had seen it the week before Atlanta and went straight off the point system, Chase Elliott would have won the million dollars. And you think NASCAR would have enjoyed that? So screw around the city. Is it exactly what everybody that's in the room thinking about it? It's brought up people that you're normally not going to talk about that people have interested. And that's what we don't understand. And it's like the meetings that these people have and think about this stuff,

it's a whole different level, right? And sometimes you're like, are you, what are you smoking, right? What are you guys doing in there? And all of a sudden it's like, hmm, that was pretty cool. I guess they were right. So are you a proponent for doing the same way next year? I still think you should see it by points. But even if you see it by points, it would have brought the same,

because the same guys kind of made it. It would have been Chase versus Ty Gibbs. but the other guys would have went more round so you'd have been talking about them and then you would obviously have the most popular driver in the sport in the finals to draw even more attention to it and then ultimately would have won. But yeah, I think it's a great idea.

I love the idea. I think I would like to see the seating a little less confusing for the fan to follow. But it made it interesting for sure and there's nothing, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on. Like, I don't really care that much about it. I just thought it was, I thought it was. I was just because I don't like when shit's confusing

for our fans. And if I don't understand it, if we don't understand it, we're in the group test trying to figure it to fuck out. Yeah, but once they had the first setting, it was like, okay. Yeah, I mean, once you get to that point, but it's hard to figure out what the hell is going on to that point. But hey, listen, it worked out. Everything and all that's hard to figure out to that point. Well, y'all's age of candy. To your point.

What do you mean to our age? Yeah, I'm nowhere near as old as that fucking guy. I've seen you. You work on spelling, and then we'll talk. Spelling's not the problem. It's been my issue since third grade. Oh, man. I think we just have to leave.

I need sleep. Yeah. Freddy needs a nap. Tommy's got lots of things to do. I will say shout out to Lane Riggs. Did whoop the shit. Oh, yeah. Finally.

Carson, anything? We, cars to her Wednesday? Yeah, no, we're back this weekend. We got our throwback classic. $50,000 to win. Late models, $30,000 to win pros at Hickory. Luke will be in the 51. Luke's driving the 51 pro.

Are they still leading the owner's points? Yep. Who's leading lay mal stock points? Connor Hall. Him and Landon are in a pretty tight battle. So it should be getting good. We have six races left, which is hard to believe. How cool is this event for you? Seeing some of the paint schemes. I seen somebody I said to Bubba. I said, damn, I didn't realize you were old enough to have a throwback. I think, is it Kitz Miller?

Yeah, Kitz Miller's got above a throwback for the late model race. It's just really cool to see all those paint schemes. Huffman's. I like Huffman's. Yeah, there's a lot that are doing like throwbacks to their dads and stuff, which is cool. I just love seeing what everybody comes up with. And like, we've been doing it for eight, seven, six to eight years. I don't know exactly how long, longer than I've been around the car store. But,

and it's, it's cool to see what people come up with year over year. Like Parker Eatman's Miller, genuine draft car is beautiful. And they made merch, so you can come get it in the merch trailer this weekend. But I'm excited.

I'm ready to see everybody's stuff on track and see what these assholes do for 50 grand. I'm sure it won't be a fun day to be a car store official. Over under on midnight? Oh, don't know. Are you going to be there? No.

I got to go to Iowa. All right. Well, and I don't want to hear shit from you. Now, over under on midnight. We'll get done before midnight. Done. Both nights? I'm standing on it.

Both nights. Yeah, because we're qualifying Friday night and then all we're doing on Saturday is racing. So where do people go find you? Are you in the merch trailer there? Are you just bouncing around? I'm here there and everywhere. Every time I see you at these races, you look like you're going to kill somebody. That's like she's focused.

I'm in the zone. It's not anger. It's just focus. Focus. Because I get scared. I don't even say hi to her because I think I'm going to be slacks. You got to walk right by. Just go like this.

I say hello to you every time. Quickly. Quickly. Boom. Anyway, thank you guys for listening. Let's get out of here before Tim's kills us. I'm going to go get some much needed sleep. And then I'll call you guys in a little while.

I don't know. My numbers disconnected. I lost my phone. I won't hold my breath. What time are you, what time you work until today? Five. We'll be passed out by five. Could be a little early.

If we have an emergency, can you help us? Sure. I thought you had a lot of shit to do today. Well, I might, but I might. Could be a tomorrow problem? I might have an emergency that I'm going to need Tommy's help with. And then Tommy's going to have emergency. He's going to need your help with.

All right. You guys. You guys can call. Call Auntie. All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Thanks again for everything this week. Congratulations, Freddie.

Thank you very much. We'll be back. Much better shape than I thought you. Yeah. I wasn't expecting a full Freddie today. I really wasn't. Trust me, it'll come. Thanks for listening, guys.

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