Door Bumper Clear - Iowa & Tyler Courtney: Aero Blocking at a Short Track

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Freddie Kraft, Tommy Baldwin, and Karsyn Elledge are back for another episode of Door Bumper Clear. This week they’re joined by High Limit Sprint Car Series driver Tyler Courtney ahead of one of the biggest dirt races of the year, the Knoxville Nationals. The crew recaps the wild sequence of cautions that helped William Byron save enough fuel to pick up the win, NASCAR’s decision not to throw the caution for oil on the track in Saturday’s Xfinity series race, and was Brad Keselowski’s decision to pit when he did the correct choice? Plus, Freddie drops some silly season news and Tyler breaks down Corey Day’s stock car racing career so far. All that plus #AskDBC, DBC Picks, and fan-favorite Reaction Theatre. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. Called me Frat Freddy the other day in a group tag. Or he just misspelled fat. Either way, he can kiss my ass. Let's fight. Let's get it over with us. Let's knock each other out and let's move on. I think he's a whiny.

That's what I think. Next thing you know, I got no fire suit on. Routy Nation fans are getting lucky tonight. You want to have gimmicks. Let's go all out. I would never, and here they come, never and like they never have before. Not enough, you love them. Hey, what's up everybody?

Welcome to Door Bumper Clear. I'm Freddie Craft, spotter for Bubble Wallace, Dean Thompson this week. Thomas, how is your, how are you doing today? I'm doing okay. I apologize already in advance because I probably sound very nasally. I can't breathe. It's a tough morning, but it's okay.

I know you give me shitter at this point. You've been running hard for the last week. It's been a long week. Listen, you partook in some of it. Once. Carson, you all. Also, partook and some of them, I apologize to anything to happen that night. I need you to not win for another 100 days, please, if you can help it.

Carson, how was your evening last night? I know you didn't have a late night or anything. I'm not ready to talk about it yet. I'm not ready to talk about it yet. I'm still recovering. Let's shout out the winners. Yeah, Spencer Davis in the pro late models. We don't talk about that one.

And mini Tyrell. We don't talk about that Spencer Davis win. Minnie Tyrell won in late model stocks. So that was, that was exciting after a lot of fucking carnage. You can't say that. Yes, I can curse on this show. I thought we talked about this. We're going to try not to say that word this show.

What, fuck? Evan, poor Evan told me last week. Evan partook in the celebration a little bit. He's like, yeah, we had 150 fucks and shits, apparently. Apologies. Anyway, guest this week, somebody I've talked about coming on here numerous times. And finally, he heard himself just enough to where he's got some time off on a Monday. What's up, Sunshine?

Hey, how are you guys? Yeah, I did, you know, fortunately, I did hurt myself enough, but not enough that you still get to talk to me. So either fortunate or unfortunate. So, yeah, no, I'm excited. Obviously, yeah, I've been friends with Freddie for a long time. I know Carson for a long time. This is my, I think my first time meeting Tommy.

Sorry. But, yeah, excited. And I was just telling your producer, I think I'm more impressed, one that you get Freddy there every week, but also from what I remember of Carson when she lived in Indy, her getting out before, you know, noon is quite impressive. So this is a, this is a good start.

I text Tyler today. I said, hey, you want to do the podcast? He's like, yeah, I said, well, we kind of record early. We did push back a little bit because you're in Knoxville, right? You're sitting in your truck like a weirdo. Yep. But I said, listen, he can give Carson all the shit he wants. Tyler is not a before-d-d-d-old guy.

That's what I was going to say. None of the spring car guys are. They race till 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. So I said, hey, we're going to do 9.30. Your local time is that okay with you? He's like, yeah, unfortunately, I didn't just break my back. My internal clock is also fucked up because I wake up every morning early now. He's getting old.

I got no choice. I woke up at 6 o'clock today. Just sitting there laying there staring at the ceiling because I can't get up and do anything until they tell me I can. So, but yeah, no, I definitely have no room to give anybody crap about what time they get up. But I'm on Tommy's side here. Like, we race, we race to way late. And then I got to drive to the next track. So sleeping ends, you know, just, you have to do that.

So I'm ready to go for the next night. Go with that. We were on vacation when you slept until dude. So I don't want to hear anymore. But that's an excuse, too. You're on vacation. Again, if they're with you on vacation, you have no choice because you're up until 2 o'clock in a morning. Correct.

That's early, you're saying I'm getting old. Just because you're old and you get up on vacation at 7 a.m. That's your fault. Tyler, first and foremost, how are we doing? We are, we're getting better. The pain is really, I think from what I've heard, just talking to other people, I'm in a pretty good spot when it comes to pain-wise because, like, obviously they, when they did surgery. So when they go up and cut all that, it's a lot of nerves that they cut.

So then like the nerve pain, I think is something that people were warning. me about and I think I've been pretty lucky with that really like when I talk about pain for me it's more just discomfort like getting myself comfortable or like you happen to stand or sit for too long is just kind of you know discomforting but other than that it's pretty good um most people that know me a lot of people watching that don't know me on the show I don't normally wear glasses so like I when you took a head trauma obviously too during this whole process and with that became a little bit of a nerve injury behind my eye. So like I see a little double vision and like my eyes are kind of off-centered, which makes me look no more dumb than I already did before.

Yeah. Hanging out with Freddie usually about midnight. We all get like that. So and that's an injury that's going to heal over time. My eye doctor said. So until then I get to wear some glasses with a prism lens in them to kind of help stuff straighten up. But yeah, other than that, I've got my first outpatient appointment Thursday morning to kind of figure out the next steps and know see what see what physical therapy is going to look like and what I can and can't do for I guess for the rest of my life really and then uh probably have him check out my head a little bit just to make sure that's still healing because I did get a a little brain bleed during that that whole thing so just uh it stopped before I left the hospital obviously or they wouldn't

let me leave but just uh just get that double checked and uh make sure I'm going on the right direction. And what's that time? I mean, I don't, I assume you're not driving the rest of the year probably. Yeah. Yeah, I would assume, I mean, I think even if they tell me, let's say I go on there Thursday and they say, hey, like, you'll be clear by end of September. Like, I'm probably still just going to take the time and let my body heal up to its full potential and not put myself in that position to get, like getting back too soon. I think one life, like, I mean, my life is racing, but life to me after racing is, is important as well. And I think, I think it'll do me and my team a favor if I, you know, sit out the rest of the year to just heal. And we've got a great replacement driver that is very capable to get us to the end of the season.

And I think it would just really not do any of us any good if I come back right in the middle of them getting comfortable with each other. and just for me to kind of show up just on a whim thinking I'm going to be okay to do it all. And but, but yeah, I think definitely, definitely going to be out for the season. My goal is to be back at the start of the year in Volusia and go from there. And obviously, if I'm not fully ready for Volusia, hopefully be ready for March when the high limit season starts there in Vegas. But I think with everything I've kind of been told and just talking with a lot of people that have had this injury before, I should be ready to go. by February there in Volusia. How hard is it?

I mean, I know you were in Knoxville this week. I mean, it's how hard is, Gio's great kid, Gio Salzy is filling in for Tyler for the rest of the year. How difficult is it to sit in that suite this weekend and watch the 7BC out there, Raisin? It's tough, and unfortunately it's not the first time I've had to do it, especially here at this track. But for me, I think, I think this time,

especially with how much worse my injuries were. and I know it's such a cliche thing to say, but like I'm just lucky to be here and it could have been a lot worse. So for me to be able to still be here and show people that I'm okay and I'm alive and that I'm going to be okay and I'll be back. Makes me feel good.

And I told Freddie this is my favorite place on Earth. He thought I was at the casino. I've never met somebody as lucky as the casino as Tyler is. Lucky. Listen, you must hang out on different days I do. Every time. Every year at Chili Boy,

here is something about him walking out of there with thousands and thousands of dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think I used up all my luck and turned one at Eldora. I went yesterday and they didn't win anything.

Oh, that's a good thing. Yeah. And, but yeah, it's my favorite place on earth. It's my favorite event. For anybody who doesn't know, the Knoxville Nationals is our Daytona 500. It's our biggest race of the season.

and it's the biggest purse of any sprint. It's not the richest paying race, but it is the best purse in sprunker racing. It's for us. So for us, a standard night is 12,000 win. Well, this race pays $15,000 just to start on next Saturday. So, like, just to tell you,

the purse and the, the atmosphere at this place creates is, is second to none. I mean, this is one of the few sprinker races in the world where you get 25 to 30,000 people in a town and, place of people that only, I think, has 10 to 12,000 people total all year around is pretty insane. Well, before we move on to Cup stuff, give me who's going to win the Knoxville Nationals? And I think the 24 Rico Abreu and 57 of Kyle, Kyle was obviously won the last two years,

and he's probably the favorite coming in just because he's a freak and it's Kyle Larson, right? And then, but Rico has put a huge focus into Knoxville this year. I think he's been here on every off weekend. I think he's won every off weekend here this year. I think last night was like the first time I hadn't seen him win a 4-10 race here in a long time. But Jack was a little different. Rico and his crew chief, Ricky Warner, has won 10 of them. He won 10 of them with Donny Scha.

Is that it? Yeah, just 10. And so I think those two are the favorites. favorites. Then I think, you know, beyond that, I, like, there's some that aren't really dark horses, but, like, for me, like, just to keep the answer pretty, pretty simple here, like, the 24 and a 57, I think if you ask anybody this week, those two are the favorites to walk out of here next Saturday and Knoxville National is champion. You really went on a limb there. I appreciate you.

Yeah. No, you're welcome. What is that on? No. No, it's not on it? No. We missed it. I can't believe he didn't say Chris was going to win. now he's going to be upset well all right here you can you can say it yeah I will

who's ready who's your pick to win him's gonna win the whole thing we're going we're gonna run the table win every night and win um Tyler I know you are a NASCAR fan

I know we have talked endlessly about NASCAR races Tyler actually did some spotting back in the day so he's welcome on the spotter podcast he spotted some Indy 500s right yes sir yeah I spotted, I was trying to count last night. That's probably why I couldn't really sleep.

That's one. I was so excited. Yeah. I was trying to figure out how many N8500s I did, but I think it was around six or seven of them. I think the most notable one I did was with James Hinchcliffe. We started on the poll of the 100th running, and I think we ended up six that year. But yeah, the N8500 is obviously another great event. I grew up in Indianapolis, so like getting to be a part of anything.

out there during that whole month is always special. And, you know, unfortunately for me, I got to be a part of James' lowest moment of his life and career at the Nd500, the one year he, we were close to losing him there in turn three. And then the next year we were on the poll. And like, it was just a, just an awesome experience. And, but I know just from my spotting experience and then like, turn it on the scanners to like listen to you guys,

you guys talk way more than we do at the 500. It's just, it's crazy how much information you guys put out. It's weird indie is like one of my new favorite tracks. I don't know what it is. Yeah. So random and crazy. Let's talk about some Iowa, Thomas. How was that race for you guys?

Man, we battled all day. We had, we practiced really well. Practice really well. We were talking some shit on the roof during practice. We were breaking Coleman's chops, the spot around the 22 telling me get out of our way. And we had a lot of fun there. But, yeah, car was solid.

it's hard qualifying first, right? Not knowing how hard to go speed-wise and again you're starting to back and it's a battle and we were in the lead lap until about 12 to go and lost the lead lap and ended up 32nd but again tough race. I mean, it's a race nobody fell out of.

Like for all the cautions that there were, everybody finished the race, I think. Like everybody was still out there. Like if you lost, I looked at it once in, we lost a lap. Well, we lost two laps. Two laps. Fixing the toe leg. and I looked down, I go, holy shit, we're last.

Like, we were like 35th, I have 37 or something like that. I was like, damn it, everybody's still out here. But a boy, did we? What a comeback, man. I was watching. I looked up, I'm like, oh, boy, he's going to, we're going to have to talk about this on the show. And all of a sudden I'm like, holy shit. Holy shit.

I looked at one time, and I was like, you know, you kind of see, look ahead and see where you can get to. And that last run was, I don't know, 60 laps, last six. And I said, I think we can get the 15th. I said, we're fucking coming. Like, we could drive the 15th. And then we got the 15th. And I go, holy shit, they're still 30 to go. We can drive the 10th, maybe.

And then we got the 10th. I go, we might get the top 5. You were a half straightaway behind the 2 in that next group. And I was like, all right, that's probably about as far as you're going to get. Five laps later, you're right behind him. I'm like, holy God. I don't know. All day, Bubba being Bubba, he's like, if you just tighten this thing up, we're going to be really good.

So then, of course, he does that. And he goes, I told you, motherfuckers, if you just tighten this thing up. We were going to be able to do this. But now, it was phenomenal finish for us. I mean, just piggyback what we did. We leafrogged Bisher, which, if you're not paying attention to the standings, that's a point. You know, we jumped in him for 10th in the regular season standings,

which, you know, the 10th place guy gets a point in the playoffs. So that was a big deal for us. But, yeah, the end of that race was, I mean, it was, look effortless. Like, the car was so good at the end of the race. Crazy. And it was, that's probably the first race I can recall in a long time that without a weather change, really, that track changed drastically about halfway through the race.

And we had a lot of people on their toes because, man, everyone all of a sudden just got so loose. And, you know, guys that were a little tight were better off, you know, in the long run. In the beginning of the runs of the long runs in the first stage, you didn't see that drop off, right? That last 63 lap, you've seen a lot of guys trading, you know, the, The seven was top 12 all day. He, you know, he was not on his fresh tires. He's everybody else. But the first stage, it didn't matter, right?

The third stage, that long run, man, it people would drop. You can see some guys fall. And it was a good race. I thought it was good. I mean, it was a battling for the lead, you know, a lot of times. And, you know, between the 24 to 6 to 12 and the 9. I mean, it's the probably, like, for me and Tyler, you know, you're watching at home, like, it's so hard to pass. it's like it's your arrow air blocking at a track that's less than a mile long Tyler what's it like watching on TV like is it frustrating for you as a guy that races you know and watching this yeah well like so like I'm I'm thinking about the like really last 50 laps here like like the 24 is not the best car by any means I don't think and but nobody could do anything once they got to him like like they told briscoe to go and he went and that was it like he he could once he got behind him

even like and then they got to to the lap cars too at the end and that just made all the air worse. So it's just, it's a little frustrating to watch as a fan because like I think the race could have been quite a bit better. Like just if they were able to move around a little bit more and be able to get air on themselves and do that. But but I get it too. Like if I'm the 24, I'm doing the same thing, whatever I got to do to win the race. And like it's just, it's kind of wild. And it is weird to think that when they're like you're on that short of a track. But like really in the grand scheme of things, it's really not that small track.

Like you're still building a lot of speed to be able to, you know, make aerodynamic things like that happen. So yeah, for us, because we have big wings on top of our cars, so we're doing the same thing. It's all about just killing the momentum for the guy behind you, especially if you feel like your car is not that great. You're just going to make yourself as wide as you can to disturb the air as much. and it's all part of the chess match. And, you know, I do wish as a fan, though, watching on TV that it was a little more entertaining sometimes. But I do like those long green flag runs that like places like that with tire wear. Like I miss hold Atlanta, like getting to watch guys, you know, come and go like the whole day where the driver is kind of making the difference at the end of the run instead of just how good your car is.

And I like that kind of stuff. But all on all, besides, like, you know, a lot of guys spinning out, but I think I just showed you how hard it was to hold on to your race cars. I thought Iowa was a pretty decent race, you know, besides, you know, at the end there when it was kind of tough to pass, but it wasn't tough to pass for you, Freddie. No, it was easy. It's a 26 spots last run, a piece of cake. But I really thought like, you know, like I'm watching,

I'm like, man, the six cars just going to drive back up through here and win the race. And he got behind the 19 and couldn't do anything. I heard, and Alex put this on the, sheet so maybe he can once i don't know Alex is fucking wandering around the room here god knows what he's doing um and Tyler this is for you too because you were watching I did see a lot of

negative feedback about the coverage of the race for whatever reason I heard they cut the commercials when they shouldn't have network TV but like I mean they were the middle of the stage one battle where Byron and Kislauski were getting held up by Gregson so everybody was catching them and then there was more lap traffic catching

Gregson and they cut to commercial and then we come back and it's all of a sudden It's all single down. All the momentum they were just building up just died. And we have no idea what happened. It was so annoying. It must have been when they were all like when the leaders were, it was a four wide battle in front of leaders for the lucky dog.

And then the leaders were on their ass. And I saw I was actually commentating this for Bubba. I was like, they're getting ready to wreck up front here because they're racing their asses off for the lucky dog. And then I think Ricky was the one that got flushed out. But like if they cut to commercial during that, like that's always the, I always tell everybody like if you want to watch something when you're at the racetrack,

watch the race for the Lucky Dog because they're racing harder than anybody else on the racetrack. So it's a shame that that I saw that. I think luck tweeted like, oh my God, they didn't just go to commercial today. And they did, unfortunately. Talk about Saturday a little bit. Sam Mayer wins the race. The only thing I want to talk about with Sam was obviously very talented race car driver. The way he's gone about business this year seems kind of under the radar for me.

Like, you know, the years, in the last couple of years, like, Sam was winning races, but it was almost at a point where I was like, man, I don't think I like this kid. Like, he's kind of rubbing everybody the wrong way. And this year, he's just kind of gone about his business. Now he's won a race this year. But he's been, I think he was third in points going into this. Like, he's had a really good year, kind of quiet, like kind of just toned down and just doing his job. I mean, what's that stands out to car owners, no? Yeah, no, he's, yeah, he's done a really good job.

And he's kind of like a been. and I jinx Dean Yeah, thanks a lot, asshole. You know, I mentioned to Freddy, I'm like, you know, Dean's just like a quiet guy, he's like, Harley never does anything. And next thing you know, this race, he's all over to, all over the place, but...

We're going to get to that in a little while. That was funny. One of fucking Corey's buddies fucking wiped us out a couple times. You're not supposed to curse. Oh, sorry. Since when are we not cursing? Well, Tyler's time we're just being an asshole. But, yeah, Sam's done a really good job this year,

and I think they're gearing up for this run for the championship. I think the 88 gave one away, to be honest with you. I think on that second and last restart when he decided to take the outside versus starting third with the guys on old tires in front of him. You know, like I told them. Yeah, like I told them this morning,

you know they're going to shoot up the racetrack. You got the freshest tires, you go by him. And that's what Sam was third. He was third on that restart, and that's how he ended up winning a race. But again, clean air is king. You know, I did notice yesterday in the cup race, once the leaders got to the back, they were the same speed as the back. Yeah, like, Priest took off from the leaders at one point.

Yeah, well, because he had clean air. Yeah. Like, he ended up with clean air and got there, and they flipped that one pick call there. They stayed out and got Priest to, got Priest to the top 15. Next thing you know, he's creeping up, creeping up, creeping up, clean air. And there he goes, top five. Again, we're not supposed to talk about priests. We're mad at him, right?

Yeah, fuck Priest. We don't like it. Sorry, I forgot those for the curse. Yeah. But he did a good job. No, the top five. But, uh, no, he didn't. He didn't?

No, he did. No, I'm saying we don't. No, he didn't do a good job. He sucks. Alex, I like Ryan Priest. Fuck, priest. He's an idiot.

So, Alex, I didn't see this happen live. Like, I didn't go back and look at the replay because I was out last night. But, uh, was it J.R.M. Craying. Like, did, did, uh, did, did, did, did, did Connor White adjusting that? You could say that. Yeah. Is that fair?

Yeah, it's very fair to say. How was the meeting this morning? Because their meeting, they probably met an hour ago. He had a little cut on his nose. Did he? You think Justin got a hold of him? I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Yeah, Connor was a little angry on the radio. Connor was angry. He wiped out Justin, didn't he? Yeah, but he was angry at himself. At himself. Oh, yeah, yeah. And dirty air, and he was... It's hard to imagine Connor angry.

He was angry. I know. He's such a little kid. He's like, just so imagine. He wasn't happy here. He let his emotions get, getting front of him I think. So congrats to Sam for that.

Before we move on the spot on spot off, I did want to touch on Stuart freezing. I mean, what a fucking hellacious wreck. We were out Monday night. It happened Monday night, I think, when we were out, right? Like, we saw the wreck and it was just like, holy shit. Like, thank God. Obviously, Tyler, I mean, I'm sure you got a chance to see it. Like, the wreck was just insane.

Disgusting. It was disgusting. And luckily, like, for some reason, like 10 years ago, I was team. mates with Stewart and a sprint car in California. So like I kind of have somewhat a relationship with him. And so I've messaged him. And I think I think he was on the same medicine I was in the hospital there. So he was he was making some pretty good good jokes back and forth to me. But he said, he said, luckily I've got some, you know, pretty good friends that are getting me to a great, great place in New York there that are going to, you know, take care of him pretty well. And,

yeah, his injuries were definitely, you know, pretty serious. But I think just, just like me, he was just super, super happy and, and lucky that it wasn't worse. But, yeah, I mean, I can't think of a crash that I've really seen that was more, like, brutal than that across any series than a long time. Yeah, I think yours was pretty close. I mean, well, it had the same type of thump thing, you know? I mean, it was just a, yeah, the energy just stopped, you know, when he hit that wall and yours was the same type of situation, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's what we're. hurt me was the energy going that way. Like a lot of our backcountry's last few years have been

all like after the landing and then like coming down where all the parts are disconnected and you're landing just straight on the frame rail. But mine was me basically trying to come out of the top of the car and then the top of the car getting squished into the wall. So yeah, then like, yeah, Stewart's was kind of the same way. And then and then he's upside down and gets hit on top like that too. So yeah, I was very, very excited when he when he, when he, messing me back just to kind of tell me it was all right and stuff and yeah just a brutal brutal

a couple weeks here in the dirt world for us and but we'll keep making it better that's for sure yeah and you know unfortunately I think Stuart I mean it's it's hard to imagine I mean broken pelvis you know fractured leg compound fracture it's hard to imagine him coming back this year

yeah so I don't know what they're going to do as far as waiver goes I mean he could he could kind of upset the apple cart a little bit Yeah, they, yeah. If he applies for a waiver, I can't imagine they turn him down, right? I mean, it's, I mean, they, have they ever turned a waiver down? But, you know, there's, I mean, there's a seat there to be to, he could take a seat. You know what I mean?

There's, there's a couple of forwards lined up in the next two spots to get in if he doesn't take it. So, I mean, they could, they could honestly, play some games as they wanted to, just keep some guys out of the playoffs. But what the interesting thing is, I think, and this new. may drop before we do this podcast, but there is a playoff driver that is going to get in the 52 truck for the rest of the playoffs. Somebody that's already in the truck playoffs

and another truck got fired today essentially or is going to get fired today. And just luckily for him, I think what happened was he's going to move teams next year and he informed the team that he's going to leave. You're doing a lot of beating around. I don't want to say the name. I don't want to say the name because it's their news to break.

but Cate and Honeycutt is going to he is going I think he's going to change teams next year and he's going to allegedly he's going to end up in the 52 truck I think for the rest of the playoffs but what about this weekend that's so yeah well Bells it's it's a weird

deal because I think they are the whatever niece motorsports I think essentially get rid of him for the rest of the year but the problem is you have to you have to start races like If you don't make an attempt to start the race this week, you're out of the playoffs. So now he's going to find a ride, which I saw Tyler Young was the drunkest human being on the planet last night. I ran into him at Big Al's.

He gave my ideas. And we were trying to put, we were trying to sneak, sneak him in there for a week. But yeah, so he's, I'm sure he's going to have a ride this week. Might not be the best ride. Whatever. He's just going to get out there, start the race and then put himself in position to getting that 52 truck, I think, for the rest of the playoffs and, and excel. I mean, it worked out perfect for him because, you know, everything that went down, he was going to be rideless, kind of knocked out of the playoffs, I think.

And now, unfortunately, what happened to Stewart, it opens a ride up for him where he's going to get in a good truck to contend for the championship. Yeah, so you have the potential of Stewart and Kaden not being in the playoffs and two extra drivers being a – the truck series is a little bit different. So the Cup series, you get paid off owner's points. The truck series, it's 50% owners, 50% drivers. So it's more of a business decision for what Stewart needs to do to end up there. So he's locked in.

He's won a race. No matter what happens if he gets a waiver, he's in the playoffs. And like you said, if he takes the waiver and he doesn't show up, he finishes 10th and points, right? And he collects his money. Well deserved, right? That's the system. That's what we're dealing with. But like you said, there's four drivers, four teams behind them as well.

And you've got manufacturers coming up with all these. ideas and what to do and shaking some things around. So it'll be, it's going to be an interesting week. Hey, it's Dale Jr. And for the latest DBC gear, we need you to go to shop.durdymo Media.com. We've got plenty of options, and we're adding new stuff all the time. Shop. Dot dirtymobedia.com.

Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first on this one? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think. Send it. Why me? All right.

You guys ready for spot on, spot off? Let's do it. All right. Number one, Dean Thompson goes up to... Spot on! Dean Thompson goes up to Corey Day after the Exfinity race, after the two make contact. Freddie, what the hell happened? Spot on.

Corey had a tough day with us anyway. He kind of cooked it in there underneath us one time and Rick. Spawn us out or spun us both out, really. And then later in the race, he kind of just, he was three wide. I don't know if he didn't know or didn't care, kind of ran somebody up into our left rear and cut a tire. And Tyler, I want to talk to you about this because I know you know Corey well.

You've raced with Corey numerous times. Like, for me, Corey is super, super, super talented. And he is on kill at all times. And that sometimes works great in a 40 lapper. But maybe it does not translate so well to these 200 lappers that we're running. What's it like race with Corey?

Yeah. And I, you said it right like Corey is probably one of the most talented kids I've seen and I've I noticed it when he was like 10 years old and a micro like he was just like one of like you know when you show up to a track and like you just like you can like go out and watch you're like yeah that guy's just like there's something different about him and like that's definitely Corey Day and um I would think that's probably the one thing that he that he's got to work on you know transitioning to the to the the longer race time

type deal is just just getting himself to the finish and keeping it all keeping it all together but I think he's going to get there and I think obviously he's got the right people around him to do that and he's definitely got the talent to do it and she's going to take time but I think what people forget to watching because like he's never driven anything with fenders until I think the end of last year to to kind of and then now it's just like in exfinity with all this all this stuff looking at him and all this kind of all that um i think i think that goes a long way it doesn't make it right to run into guys or anything like that but it's a it's a it's a huge it is a huge transition i i i've never done it but i would imagine going from a sprint car to a stock car to an

exfinity car to a truck to to i think they got them in trans and stuff i think they got them doing just a bunch of stuff this year so so i think he's got a lot on his plate and he's trying to make the most of it. And I think, you know, there's, there's times throughout a lot of these races that I've got to watch him be in that, like, all right, man, like, he's, he's getting it figured out. And then by the end of the race, something happens. And you're like, God, dang it. Like, okay, like, just, just growing pains, right? But talent-wise, the kid can make it.

I think, I think the rest of it's going to be up to him and how hard he wants to work at doing it. And I think he wants to do it really bad. He's a winner just like the rest of us. and he's not going to stop until I think he... Tommy, how is it to evaluate a kid like that? Like, you're watching from the outside car owner, crew chief, whatever it is. Like, you're watching a kid that you know has all the town in the world,

but you just can't kind of put it together right now. Man, it's tough because, like Tyler said, he's been hit or miss. He was struggling. The car wasn't at its best this past weekend. You can tell how free he was. But, you know, I even try to remind Luke every now and then. when Jeff Gordon first got in the cup, the first year, he went, what, he had, 13 clips.

Front rear clips, yeah. A total of front, you know, either front and rear clips. And, you know, then it just clicks. And, you know, hopefully, you know, they're investing a lot in that kid, right? They're doing everything. And quickly. Yes, they're doing everything they possibly can. Yeah. I think quickly is, quickly is the more part of it that I think is part of the reason that you see kind of the struggles, I think.

like even Kyle obviously he was he went pretty quick too but he did a whole year of canaan he did you know a whole year like half a year in trucks than a full year of Xfinity then you know ended up in the cup series which was quicker than a lot of guys but I think for for a guy like Corey coming fresh from sprint cars and he's 18 years old or 19 years old and getting thrown into the pack of wolves it's tough all right oh yeah what to fucking cut the guy I mean Jesus Tyler no that they cut me all right All the time. Just get used to it.

Moving right along. NASCAR decides to not throw the caution for the 99 dumping oil on the track, causing Brandon Jones to crash in multiple cars to get into the oil and lose positions. Did they just miss it, Freddie? Yes. This is spot off as it gets. I know, Tyler, you were in, Tyler just fell over, I think. Are you okay?

You'll break your back. Jesus. Yeah, we're good. We're good. We're good. I hope he didn't faint or something. We didn't flip this time. I know Tyler was at Knoxville all day Saturday,

so he probably didn't get a chance to watch this. But yes, they absolutely missed it. And it affected the race greatly. Like, it misses to the point where the 99, I don't know what happened. He ran in the back of somebody into one. Hard. Like, knocked the nose off the car.

We were giving Doug shit about it because he's one. He's no spot in some of a bitch. But it was bad enough to where my crew chief, I'm coming down the front stretch, and the crew chief is yelling at me. There's oil all over turn one. Be careful. Well, if my.

fucking crew chief knows this. The people in the tower should know this, right? It was on TV. You could see this. Like, the problem for me is, I don't understand why everybody but NASCAR seemed to know there was fluid over there. You know, and like I said, in a effects rate, Jesse Love lost the lead because of this. The 20 car spun out because of this, ruined his race. You know, this is the stuff we talked about, you know, you go back to Chicago and we're talking about corner workers.

Like, where's that guy in turn two that says, that says, you know, hey, there's shit all over the race. Like you got to throw the fucking yellow here. Like you, we can't all go piling in to turn one with oil all over the racetrack. It's like, you know, and you saw it. Like as soon as we all got down there, like, I didn't, I could not relay fast enough to Dean. Like, I just got out like stay tight to the guy next to you because we were too wide going in the outside lane. I couldn't relay like, you don't have time to go, hey, buddy, there's oil all over turn one. You need to like run a lane lower.

It's like, just stay tight, stay tight. And we still got up a little bit. And we lost 10 spots. Luckily, the yellow came out. and the loop was somewhere before that, so we got our spots back. But, like, I don't understand, and I know this is not an easy job from the tower.

I get it. But, like, if my crew chief knows there's shit all over the racetrack, the tower needs to know there's shit all over the racetrack. I get convulsions with that type of situation because we lost the race one year at Dover with Casey Kane. Actually, it's your dad's, your dad's fault. You blame Jimmy.

Yeah. He was the first, well, they just first came out with the battery-operated saws, right? so Casey Mears wrecked. So your dad comes over at Pitt wall and cuts the nose off. Well, he cut an oil line. So Casey Mears goes right up back. He cut the oil line?

Yeah. That sounds very Jimmy like it. There's 13 laps to go. We're leading by a half or straightaway. Casey's lead, Mark Martin's second. Casey goes right out, backstitch goes into turn three. Oil. And I see the oil leaving pit road.

I'm like, there's got to be on a race train. All of a sudden, is Casey spinning out. I can just picture Tommy just losing it. Losing it. Did you talk to Jimmy that day? Yes. Yeah, how'd that go? Brad Kozlowski and the six teams' decision to stay out at lap 206 ultimately costs him the race.

Spot on, spot off, Tommy. That was a tough decision. Tommy, like, the thing that for me is, I don't know that anybody could have predicted the way this race ended with as many cautions as there were. Brad... Yeah, there was seven in stage three. Brad was the first one to pit in the window to take a shot. it was the other guys that gambled that ended up beating them, right?

So, yeah, I thought at the time when the six pitted, I'm like, okay, they're going to be ahead of everybody when everybody pits because I never expected the 24 to go that long. Yeah, so, yeah, I think the 19 just got them. I can't remember when he passed him going through the guys, you know, the rest of the pack there. but I thought, I didn't think they really messed up anything. I don't know if he could have, I don't, I'm sure he was trying to get those guys once he got by Priest, right? He got by Priest, and I'm like, okay, he's going now because he let priest, you know, priest got him

and then he went by Priest and I was like, all right, now it's time to go. I'm going to, you know, because he was going all race long, and it just stalled. I don't know if he got loose. I haven't heard anything. It's just, man, it's dirty air, but like the thing for me, like with this, the decision at 206, which the, the stage was 2. 10. So the caution comes out right before the end of the stage. I felt like they gave up their opportunity to win the race right there because you got to like they kind of put themselves in a

box for me where you know at 206 where there's four to go at the stage. There's going to be a large number of cars that's flipped the stage. You know, the guy, the whole second half of the field is in or the second half of the lead lap cars, I should say, are going to pit there and stay out. Like that's just and I felt like once they stayed out, they kind of made their best. where they were banking on the fact that we'll stay out here. Now you have to stay out of the stage because you can't put yourself in traffic with two lap, better tires. Like that's not going to work. And I think their goal is we're going to stay out of the stage and we're going to hope to God to run halfway into this stage, get another yellow.

And now everybody comes back and we're still leading. But it's just like, man, they just put themselves in such a box where that's the only outcome that's going to work for them if they catch the right yellow. and I felt like they, as a guy that's just there to win, like flip the stage, get the track position, which is what the 24 did. And like I said, nobody could have predicted that the 24 is going to be able to make it on fuel from there. But you still at least open that option up for yourself.

And you've got other options to work with as far, you know, pertaining to the rest of the race versus I'm staying out here. Now when I stay out here, I have to stay out of the stage. I can't just pit and put myself in 15th. and now, like, you're just praying to God we get a long run and it's just, for somebody that I thought

was the best car all day, like I felt like they put themselves in such a box that they couldn't get out of it. I'm kind of disagreeing, to be honest with you. That's fine. You can disagree. Yeah, I mean, there was a lot going on. It was at that time, there was a bunch of cars a lap down, you know, that whole group of cars

top 15, the car should come out. I forget who it was for and put a bunch of cars during the pit cycle. SVG. Yeah, yeah. Fucking s. SVG spun out. Yeah.

Damn it. But, yeah. But that shook the race up a little bit. But when the six pitted, that forced, not a lot of people pitted when he did. Then the next question is some other people pitted, some other people pitted. So he kept moving up the way I think they planned. Again, the 19 passed them, right? If the 19, if it goes green, the six wins, right?

Because if the 24 doesn't make it unfit. fuel or the 19 wins because he passed him on a restart and did what he needed to do. So I don't know. I don't think they made, I think they made the right call at the time. I really did not expecting it to be, what was it, seven cautions for how many laps? I don't even know how many, but it was a lot. There's a, yeah. I mean, I feel like it took an hour to run 20 laps.

Yeah, I mean, we max fuel was maybe 120 laps, 120 laps, 114 last. And they went to 140? 144. Come on. I mean, that's just, that's, that's a lot of luck, a lot of that. Tyler, how nice is it not have to ever worry about this shit? Well, they run out of fuel.

You guys run out of fuel, but they get him a red flag to let them fill up. But one guy runs out. One guy runs out. The race is ruined for the guy. Okay, now's, okay, they're going to run out. Well, and didn't the 24 just run out trying to do the same thing?

Yeah, yeah, so I mean. Yeah. So it's all a gamble, but I think, I think with the way your guys is, you know, the playoff system is, like, It allows those guys that go and take a big gamble like that. Like, they're already in. So why not try it?

I know you want to get more points and stuff like that, but I think the 24 is in a pretty good spot, especially with, you know, what, three races left now. They can just go and, you know, make big gambles like they did this weekend to try and win some races and get more points than what they were going to get. They were really good in practice. Yeah. I mean, they were top three or four a car in a long run.

Yeah. They had a really good race car. And once they got, they actually got ahead of SBG and us, and they knew exactly when they did that, they could slow down. I mean, because number one, we weren't going to try to race each other and try to pass them back. And number two, once they got those two cars in between the 19 and the 6th, 30 air, it's going to slow them down. So he went in the, it wasn't a lot of laps to go in fuel conservation mode for sure, but it was enough, obviously, because he ran out as soon as he took the checker, that it was enough. Hey man, good job to the 24 guys. They took a gamble and it paid off for sure.

Next up, Tommy's favorite driver gets loose and takes out Zane Smith. Zanes Chris Wright. Worse. That's a different segment. Zane's crew chief confronted Hosevar after the race. It's acceptable for a crew chief to confront a driver after an on-track incident. Spot on, spot off. This is maybe more for you.

Have you? I mean, has this happened before? We're going to ask him if crew chiefs are a lot to confront somebody. Have we met him? Let's talk about like when you were owned. But the crew chief, why? Just straight up crew chief, maybe with Casey, because I know Casey's a huge fighter. Like, did you get in this position at all?

I always try to let the drivers start at first, right? I mean, the situation, just to see how the flow is going to be, right? I mean, they're going to argue or are they going to talk or are they going to fight? What are the other crew members going to do? Right? Because I always try to do it by myself. Yeah. Usually you're a cool comic collective.

No, I try to go by myself. In a professional way, I try not to bring, you guys stay back. I'm going to go. But then you got everybody else coming, so you got to understand the differences of what you have to do at the time. But look, it's getting to the point that everybody's getting aggravated at the 77. It might not be happening to them yet, but when it does, they're double aggravated because they've seen it. He's doing it to everybody. It's just, man, he had a really good car.

again yesterday, right? And he finished well. What did he finish? Either night of either. Yeah, right? But he hurt some people's feelings again on the way and I don't know, man, I just... Tyler, what's it like, you know,

you watch weekly. I know we've fought numerous times. Like, from the outside looking in, do you have to have an opinion about Carson and Oswald? Yeah. So, and obviously, so Spire is a partner of ours on our Sprint card team too. So, like, I pay attention to

Spire quite a bit. What is the deal with that? But let me cut you off. there. I get a ax all the time. Spires on the front wing of the car. What is the relationship there? So it's a lot with Dickerson, but we've grown to know a lot of other people there at Spire as well.

But it's basically just, I mean, it's just a sponsor really as of right now. And I think they want to grow into the sprint car side of things. Dickerson has been a dirt guy since he was well, he's still short.

But just a little guy yeah just a little guy since he was a little little guy but basically just it's been a relationship that i've had and that tim tim clauston has had with him for a long time and they wanted to be involved on the dirt side of things and so it just worked out to where they're a sponsor and becoming a partner of ours now i think it you know sooner or later

and it's just uh it's been a great relationship and um we actually carson was in our suite all week And obviously, do you wreck anything in there? No, but this is what I'm getting to. So, so Ricky Stenhouse is also a co-owner and Sheldon Honshild's car out here too. Well, so at one point this weekend, we had Ricky and Carson and side-by-side suites because of just how it worked out. And they did get along. So I think we got that, I think we're getting a little bit past that situation.

Yeah. So, but for me, like, I think Carson is one of the most talented guys out there right now. And I think he is, I think there's a lot of weekends that he outperforms where Spire is probably at at the moment. Do I think Spire has taken a big leap this year in performance? Yes. But I think Carson is also, I think he's helped that. I think having Michael McDowell there has helped. Justin Haley is from Indiana. I've actually known him since he was. He's still a little too, but he's a good little kid.

But I think they've got a great program over there. And I think they're like Tommy was saying, I think he's had great cars, but then he puts himself in these bad situations, and then he's pissing everybody off. So it's tough, man, because he's a racer and he's a winner, and he's won pretty much along every stage of his career. so he wants to make make this the next stop along the way to win a race.

And, you know, unfortunately, just kind of made some enemies along the way. But I think he's kind of shown he's not going to change a whole lot. And I don't even think this weekend was really his fault. Like I think just with the way how sketchy the track was. And I think he got the air taken off him. And he's skating up the track. And the 38 was the unfortunate, you know, bystander. This week was.

Yeah. This week was kind of kill or be killed. Like, it was, you had to be super aggressive. And that doesn't, that doesn't lend itself to a good scenario for poor Carson. But as far as like a crew chief, like, I think if the crew chief wanted to go to the other crew chief and talk to him, like, hey, talk to your driver. I think, I think that's what I agree with. I think it's, I think it should always be driver and driver. And if the crew wants to fight each other, then let the crew fight each other.

But I don't think, I don't think a crew guy ever needs to go down and confront the driver or anything. like that. I think you should let the drivers, you know, handle it themselves. And, and, um, I mean, they're the ones out there, they're doing. And I think that, I think crew chiefs have like, Tommy, if you're on the stand, you know, Carson's, Carson just crashed you. If you, like, I think if you want to go down and talk to the crew chief, like, hey, why don't you do something about your driver? I think that would go, go better than the crew, than you go into Carson. It might make you feel better. But I think it would go better overall if you go down to the crew chief instead of going straight to the driver. The problem with Carson,

and is the crew chief knows already. So, I mean, he does. That's fair. I mean, he does. That's fair. It's been a tough season for those guys. So he's got a lot of talent. There's no question about it.

Yeah. But I'm going to explain to the audience is a lot of other people coming up that also has a lot of talent and knows how to race better than him. He needs to be careful because things happen quickly on our sport. People, business people, sponsors get tired. tired of it. I'm telling you. As much as everybody wants to think about the situation with Kyle Bush at Joe Gibbs Racing, I don't care when anyone says they got tired of it. They got tired of the stuff. And they was decided as good as he was and how great of a race car driver as he is,

and as many wins as he's had, they just get tired of it. And he's going to get to a point that there's going to be an opportunity that they're going to go, oh my God, that guy's available? Do we really want to deal with this bullshit anymore? Right? It might not happen this week, might not happen next week, but it might happen. And it's going to give somebody an easy out to make a better decision for their business because of it. Mark my word. I know, Tyler, I know you're very confrontational guy. You love to fight. He fights? He's a fucking, he's a guy's a maniac. Yes. But how do you can how do you go about this i mean i know you've had run-ins with numerous drivers but if there's a guy you just continue to have run-ins with like how do you approach the situation um so

just just don't say anything i know you know you just not say anything so i mean so i just really didn't like that i think um i i think for me like man the the one situation that stands out to me and i don't know if justin i'll listen around but like i had dude i had like a year and a half like saying with justin grant when i was racing us at and we just could not get away from each other. Like it was just, and we were teammates at one point during this year and a half stint too, and we were still crashing each other. And finally it bowled up.

We were in an indoor race and not at Chili Bullard, a different indoor race. And it boiled over, and I finally went over there and just, like, said something to him and he, like, swung at me. And then I grabbed him. And then, like, we never, it wasn't really a fight, but it was a fight if you want to call it that. But pretty much ever since that point. Like pretty much ever since that point, like it was fine. Like we didn't like granted, I kind of moved out of USAC like a year after that. So we don't have to race against each other anymore.

But pretty much ever since that point after I like showed him, I was tired of it. Like we were done screwing with each other. All right. Last one. Arquipole winner, Brent Cruz was a tenth of a second faster than the cup pole winner, Chase Briscoe. Spot on, spot off. I know everybody wants to get up in arms about this, right? Like, I know this is like, and the optics of it don't look great because you essentially have your single-A series faster than your cup series.

But is this not what we want, Tommy? Like, the reason why he's faster is because the cup car is harder to drive. Like, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the horsepower is essentially the same now across all our series. And now you're, what the problem is, we're taking down force away from, you know, as we go up, like, you know, we're talking about, I don't even know what the Xfinity pole was. everybody rants and raised by how great the Xfinity car was. It was slower than the cup car, and I don't know by how much, but is this not what we want? We want the cup car to be harder to drive, no?

You do, but I think as the premier division, you want it to be the fastest as well. So there's a fine line there. I mean, years and years and years ago, the arc of cars were also faster than the cup cars, even at Daytona. So it's happened before. There's different tires that play a key role into it.

the engine's a little bit different, arrows a little bit different. It's all adds up at a place like Iowa. I don't know. I would love to see what we do being the fastest everywhere, but sometimes it happens. What's it like looking from the outside in, Tyler? I think I got to agree with Tommy here.

Like, I think you, obviously you, you, okay, Freddie, like you, it's your premiere series, and it's the hardest, right? You want it to be the hardest, but I think, yeah, you, as a fan, when you show up and watch the Cup series, you want it to be the fastest and the most radical thing you watch. I want them to be faster than the Arc of Series for sure.

I think when I watch, I want the Cup Series to be the top series to be the top series across the board. For sure. And listen, and Cole had a great tweet last night. I know if you're on Twitter. I know you have a Twitter, but no. He doesn't get it. I try to do it when you guys send me this stuff, but I can't do it. Cole Perrin had a really good tweet last night.

He said, working on Arrow Behavior. Of all the different series, it is beyond clear which rules package would create the best racing. Number one, hands down, ARCA, number two, exfinity, number three trucks, number four, Cup short track, and number five, by a mile is Cup intermediate. Like, do you agree with that? I mean, like, this is what we've been fighting with this car. And we just, and we saw it yesterday with how hard is the past. Like, is this where we got to, we have to figure out a way to get back there or are we just kind of stuck? We're never going to get back to that.

I mean, we're so far down the road of where we're at. It's a tough situation because a lot of racetracks that we are going to or go to, we're at, sometimes we're maxed out on our tires, right, as soft as we can be. And sometimes we have gone to multiple tests of trying to figure out the different packages of downforce, of what works and what doesn't, and just was kind of stuck in where we're at. And look, we were on a call the other day. And Kyle Bush mentioned it the other day about the package that were going to Bristol. Why don't they use the short track?

Well, once we got on the phone, nobody wanted to change it because we are, you know, no one wants to change it. So it's like, okay, well, I guess we're not going to change it. So I think before we got to this car, the last year with the other car, we were getting really close to where we were at right now as far as the amount of drivers. the amount of education we were all have, we were basically doing the same thing. So I don't know, man. I just, we're all getting really good.

Yeah. The thing that I took away from yesterday's race, and maybe Tyler, you can talk about this, but I'm watching the race. And you could tell arrow is just, we're so arrow dependent. And what everybody talks about,

we're beating a dead horse. Xfinity car, if you're the car behind, you can be on offense. You know, you can go up there and you can manipulate the car in front of it. You can either,

pack air. You can get up his ass. You can get him free. And you just like the guy, now it's flipped in the cup car where the guy in front controls everything. Like he can, I mean, essentially, we were arrow blocking yesterday at a short track, which you know, you can call Iowa short track or not. It's under a mile. But, you know, it's, it's so hard to watch that race yesterday and be like, this race would be so much better if like the second place guy would, I mean, the first stage, I forget who it was. It was leading. It was Brad passing somebody. And I was like, It would be, like, Brad would, like, in the other car, in the X-Findy car, essentially, he would go up there and just run up the guy's ass and just not,

the guy would free up and he'd go buy him. Like, that's such, that's the thing, I think. And Tyler, you know this as well as anybody with the wing stuff. Like, you're almost, you're in a deficit just being the second car in line. Yeah, it's, yeah, the second car in line is almost worse. It's, it's so tough, man. And the further we get along the line here with, like, everybody learning what works and what It doesn't work on the aerial side of things as drivers.

Like, it just makes it harder because, like, especially when you're at the cup level, all those guys are really damn good, right? So they're pretty damn smart at, you know, knowing, man, if I just move up just a little bit in front of this guy, it's going to really screw them up for two more laps. So I got two more laps to figure out something else before he tries to pass me again. All right. It's time for my favorite part, reaction theater, where fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race, hopefully not the car store race.

So we have good calls? Oh, they're pretty good, yeah. Pretty good? Okay. Yeah, there's a funny cars for a call. Oh, no. Can't wait. Y'all need to re-rack this race.

There's some shit out there that Briscoe and Larson didn't hit yet. Briscoe, I know there was some, we talked about J-R-M on J-R-M crime. Briscoe wiped out a couple of Toyotas in one shot. I think it was Bell and Redick at one point, so that was tough. We were giving sluggard shit on the ride home last night. I just got done watching the Arca race. and it looks like butter bean is on the same

diet program as Fredd What the fuck? Maybe that's why he's so fast, Freddy. That's what, yeah, we're all fat people are real fast. That's new. That's a good correlation there, Tyler. Yeah, that checks out.

He does love Waffle House. I can go for a good Waffler. Yeah, I know he was distraught because there was no Waffle House. Near the Rastuck? In Iowa, they had a plan. They had a plan. So I live in Newton There's zero wall pouses close

Nothing close How is how is living in Iowa By the way so this asshole I have to go to his wedding Wait did you get your invitation? Oh I got my invitation I never got mine Because you're not invited

That's fucked up You can take that up with Asia Carson But now I have to go to Iowa In the middle of fucking December For this idiot's wedding I'm sure it's beautiful there in December Yeah we went and visited that little town here

We're all, we're racers. So it's like it's really hard to really pick any other month. And the thing is, I'm still picking PRI weekend. So there's some people that still can't go. My favorite, one of my favorite texts. And I can't go anyway. It's good thing I'm not invited. I shouldn't say favorite texts because it was a, it was not a good week.

But obviously, Tyler gets hurt and a wreck. And he sends us a picture of his gnarly scar on his back. And our buddy Windham, who maybe the most driest sense of humor on the planet goes, I think we're going to have to cancel golf at the Bachelor, party. I'm like, that's what we're, this is where we're at now. That's what he's worried about. I was like, this is, okay, I guess, yeah, you're probably right.

I would imagine so. And I said, because Chris, he was, I think he was, I think he was talking about me, talk, I think it was at the hospital. I don't, I was at the hospital for five days. I thought I was there for two, so it was a whole process. But anyway, I think this was when Chris was there, and he's like, hey, we'll probably just cancel golf or whatever. I was like, I mean, if there's guys on the trip that's,

still want to go golf. They can't. I'm just probably not going to go golf. I'll play golf with you. Me and you will be car driving. Freddy's always good on the golf trips. Trust me. Yeah. Freddy's good at the drinking part of golf. I've got that part down pat. I'll shoot

10 under there. Tommy. All this ring we get in at the car's tour race is your fault. All that talk about over and under midnight, I'm blaming you. So I guess I'll watch it on flow. Speaking of flow, I believe You have a discount for us.

Is that right for? There you go. You got to hit it. Hey, yeah, you can get a discount on FlowSports. Dot link slash door bumper clear for 15% off. Hey, guess what ass while we still finish before midnight? 51 hours later. I'd say, technicalities and technicality.

Can you call Tommy names like that? That's not nice. Hey, my name is Connor Zilich, and nothing more than I love than winning races. It's driving down in the corner and working my fucking team-y! Woo! I got to be honest. I don't think that was Connor. No, it didn't sound like him. I don't think that was in.

That person sounded way too old to be Connor. We can check with him, no, because Connor's coming next week. He's going to be the guest next week. Oh, he is? Yeah. So I know he's got some news coming this week. It's going to be pretty exciting for him. But he'll be in here next week.

Hopefully he'll win that Wachin's gunner. I can imagine what that news is going to be. I mean, it's hard to even guess what it could be. Yeah, no idea. Well, the other night they were convinced that he was going to drive to 7NY at one race. Well, listen, there was a lot of news flying around the other night, Tom. I didn't know what to believe and what not to believe, but I'm sure we could sneak him in that modified at some point. God damn it, Chris Wright.

We took you out of the car for a little bit. You didn't cause any racks. It was real nice for a couple of weeks. And your ass got demoted. down to our gun and you're wrecking shit again. Go fucking pigs. Surely was a spotter's fault.

Who was spotting? Had to be Freddie. Yeah, it was not me. I think pepper, maybe. I heard, I don't know. I don't know. I have no. I wasn't there. 25 laps. He got 25 laps in clean. When is he going to figure out to stop? When?

When? The thing that like, it's a self-awareness thing for me because he tweeted out before the race starts. He had a picture of a fire suit in like a, you know, those shadow cases or whatever. Which should have stayed in the case. What do you think every comment was on the post? Like he posts like, didn't, I'm glad to bring this thing back out or I didn't know I was going to be bringing this thing back out so soon. And every reply was like, put it away.

Like, oh, I mean, I said a point. I almost feel bad for the guy. Like it's like he's just, like you said, just stop. Please stop. I tell you what, it's really nice to have NBC back in Lee Diffey calling the races. But man, they really need to start listening to y'all's podcast because I kept hearing, to your point, to your point, to your point, come on, guys, there's other phrases you can use. Clearly, y'all can do it.

They can too. Regarding your concern. They need your list, Freddie. Lee Diffy is the shit for me. And I don't even know if it's just the accent or what it is. But, like, I know you watch a bunch of race. He was IndyCar. Like, he's just.

Like I think he adds a lot to a commentary cast. Like, I think he's pretty good. All right, guys, thanks for calling in and saying semi-nice things about the car store. To leave an audio message 24-7, you can call our number 704-802-9572, and we'll play the best ones each week on the show. Did you intentionally get your nails to match your DBC sweatshirt, or is this just a coincidence? No, it was actually a coincidence. Are you sure? These are two weeks old.

I think that you, I think you plan this. Like you're like, I got this amazing door bumper clear sweatshirt. That what's the website, Alex? You can get this sweatshirt on. Shop.dirtymo.com. That's the one. Why don't you know that?

Because I'm an idiot. That was a free plug. All right. Speaking of plugs. Hold on. Speaking of plugs. Sorry. What is it? Shop sunshine?

Where are we at? Shop sunshine. You can, we got two shops in the shirt, hoodies, hats. Yep, yeah, it makes it It makes it real confusing Yeah, shop Drops Sunshine. Shop is my website

Go buy this hat Any merchandise shirt Yeah, you can buy that hat He's got on I've got a similar shirt Oh, hold on Easy, easy, don't go too low Similar shirt to this

I do have pain from today, Freddie, if that makes you feel better Today, that was a concern of mine Especially from the neck up All right, it's time for AskDBC. You can sit in your questions on X each week using hashtag AskDBC. Patrick would like to know, Tyler, what's the weirdest thing you have had to sign for a fan out of dirt race? Just keep mine.

You might hear this. Just really, I reckon. So this is, and this will tie in an ask cart too. So this works out perfect. So I won the Kings Royal at Aldora in 2021. So that day we had two Kings Royals because. the year before was COVID, and then we had a brain the whole week. So we ran two of the biggest races of the year in the same day.

So I win the first one. Kyle Larson wins the second one. And this guy comes up and wants me to sign his ass. And I'm like, if you go down and get Kyle Larson to sign it, I'll sign it when you come back. And this guy, no shit came back with Kyle Larson's signature on his ass. So I had to sign his ass. Oh, no. Same cheek? Wait, did you ask Kyle if he did it?

Oh, did they scam you? Did it look like Kyle's signature? You know, that's a good point. But Kyle's signature is pretty, like, his signature is pretty distinguishable. So, like, it was, it was pretty easy to tell it was his. Did you go, did you go same cheek or opposite cheek? Either way. Opposite cheek.

Opposite cheek, yeah. Did he get them, like, tattooed or anything? Do you know? I think that guy, I don't even think that guy remembers getting his ass tattooed. Okay, cool. So it was just like a drunken. I want to get my ass side kind of. You don't think he was sober doing this?

Well, no, but I'm saying, like, was he like, oh, fuck it, I'm going to get this tattoo? I don't know. Yeah. And speaking of shit shows. I think there's going to be a clear winner this week. It's like last week with the 21 right hook and the guy. I think we got a thousand text messages about this and tweets and everything else.

So clear winner this week? Yes. Oh, what is it? Who? Who do you think? Chris, right? Yes. He's back on the ballot.

I'll tell you who comes. could end up on the shit show list. And we got to give these idiots a little bit of shit for this. The fucking executive team at Brent Cruz Racing. Man, I did not get that whole press release. Well, I do because Jack is part. My son was part of it. So they, I text Jack.

There's another problem. That was probably the main problem. I text him, I said, hey, you're coming home for dinner. He goes, no, we're at Brett's, that we have a team meeting going on. So there's where it started. And I don't know if you've been You haven't been with this group of The goof I called the goof troop

Now it's so so accurate It's starting to make more sense in my head now Yeah there is so much shit that gets Grown out Because I'm just telling you a micro team does not Just go truck racing Yeah Well I mean the team is true

A micro team doesn't fucking Yeah But they they Just this I'm sure there was a guy there that just didn't completely understand just them, right, and took it all seriously. And next thing, you know, there's an executive, I mean, if you think about it, it was pretty smart to form an executive team, but not with those guys, right?

You know, that's Chevrolet supported, and it's a Toyota truck, and Jack has nothing to do it because he is not supported by anybody but me. So, you know, that's fine. So he's sitting back laughing at all these guys. Well, Jack's got some shit going on. He's trying to get an executive. job. He's going to become an executive.

He's going to become executive soon. Yeah. I just had to laugh at the press release. I think it's cool, obviously, what they're doing. But like saying, hey, we sold our micro team. We have a truck team now. I'm like, that doesn't add

up. You don't think one paid for the other? It doesn't quite add up to me. The math ain't math. Well, I will say, though, we make light of it now, but like put this kid on your radar because he is a very, very fucking talented race car driver.

Like he is, he's a name you're going to hear for a long time coming. He's got an announcement. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be, I think. He reminds me a little bit of Connor.

Sillich. Yeah, well, that's why they all, they all hang out. Unfortunately. I think you're going to hear a lot of him next year. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be Xfinity racing and

allegedly probably winning races. Yeah. I would like to nominate lap 115 of the late model stock race at Hickory. Oh, was that when they all knocked the tires over? Yeah. Who was it, Tristan got hooked into the tires?

No. Lofton was the one that blew the tires over. Carson Lofton hit a ton. And Landon Lewis. I'm assuming these guys are all okay. Yes, but you knew it was coming. Yeah, oh, fuck yeah. I watched one restart.

Like when we landed, Lambert had it on his phone. They were four wide for the lead. I was like, ooh, this is going to get a little exciting. Landon and the tire, Minnie had a little issue going on right now. Yeah, they've got some beef going on this year. But Minnie didn't really have much to do with that. It was McKee and Landon. I'm at Tommy's one night.

It was Luke's birthday. I can't remember recently. And there's a kid in the pool and I'm like, I know this kid from somewhere. I can't, I don't know. I can't place him. I don't know where he's at.

So they finally comes over and introduce himself. And it was the kid that was fighting Connor Jones, whatever that were. Parker Eatman. He was there? Jesus Christ. I don't pay attention. I was like, I note this kid from somewhere.

And I realized, I was like, oh, that's the kid that was, fighting Connor Jones the other day. Fighting is... Well, yelling at each other. Swatting each other. All right, DBC picks. Freddy, you won.

Here's... You said fuck Ryan Priest and he's the reason you won. I'm telling you, fuck Ryan Priest. He's on our shit list. Here's how I know Tyler is a little fucked up this morning. Like, I was worried. I'm concerned he might be more injured than I thought originally because he said, he sends me a text this morning.

He goes, so I can't pick any of the green ones, right? Look at the list and tell me where the green is. It has a hint. Are you colorblind? There's a one eye right now. On my phone. On my phone, it was like a hand. I'm going to give you a pass because you smashed your head into a wall recently.

But you get a little pass for that. But yes, I was concerned when you text me that this morning. Tyler, you go first. So you're going to lose me for a second because I have to swipe up to look at the list. Oh, Jesus. You weren't prepared. Come. He was.

He was probably more prepared than any guests we've ever had. Oh, he go. So Tyler, we've lost Tyler. Tyler's phone blew up. Apparently, the hot Knoxville sun beating through the dashboard of his truck apparently has blown his phone to pieces. Not good for the program. Tyler's broken.

The phone's broken. Everything's broken over there in the truck. Not good. It was good talking to you. It was nice to see you. It was nice to hear from you. Speedy recovery. Good luck with your team.

I hope. well. I hope you get fixed before the phone does. But anyway. So Tyler picked Bubba Wallace, which shows me for the second time

that he's broken. Yeah, he has no clue about... His head, he definitely has head drama, for sure. He's definitely smoked his head on a wall recently. What do I call him? On the road course?

Emerson. I was wondering why you hadn't said it yet. But, yeah, so... All right. Tom. Oh, I'm next. So knowing the thing.

things that you guys don't. I don't think this is... I don't think Zillage is running Charlotte, is he? So this is his last road course race. I think so. And all you guys have already picked SVG, and I haven't yet as well. So when I'm going to save SVG for Charlotte,

and I'm going with Zillage, and I'm blocking both of you. Thank you for mansplaining that to me. I appreciate it. That's the first time you've actually said his name, Zillage? Yeah, because it's usually Zillowich. Zillowich.

Zillowich. Well, that's who I was going. going to pick so that's fucked up but um i have royally screwed myself on my picks this year i don't have that much left i'm going to go with tyler reddick it's a good pick tell him not to let me down freddie i'll let him know um i really don't want to buy dinner is it my pick venmo request him maybe well listen if this is a deal if you tell him that you lost because of him he'll buy dinner i've seen case he do this before in the past okay all right i feel better about that i will take michael mcdowell um just i think he's Been really good on road courses this year and for his career, honestly.

So, yeah, poor Tyler. We just, I mean, we kicked him right out. I mean, the poor guy. Can't catch a break. Where are you guys going? Watkins Glen. We're going to Watkins Glen this week. Thomas, you going?

Yeah, man. You're going? Yes. Really? No surprise. We got Thompson on Wednesday, this Wednesday. What do you bring into Thompson? The old seven and why?

Luke. Tied for third and points. 28 out. See what we got. I'm trying to go over my notes to make sure that I've talked about everything that I talked about. There's one thing we didn't talk about on here. You hear any rumors about Haas factory team these days? There's some circulating.

Somebody may be moving into their shop. Allegedly. Allegedly. Maybe switching manufacturers to Toyota. Possibly. I don't know. There's a lot of stuff going out there. There's a lot.

There's lawsuits. There's lawsuits everywhere. You guys are in the middle of one. Apparently my team's in the middle of one. I did hear that about Hoss, though, like some kind of merger maybe or just straight up bought out. But I think there's,

well, there's only a handful of Toyota teams and it's not going to be 2311 or Gibbs, I would assume. It's another team that's involved in a lot of lawsuits. Sick. Anyway, thank you guys for listening. Thank you for coming out this week. I saw a bunch of fans out in Iowa again. saw a couple fans at Big Al's last night.

Thanks for showing up and buying more shots of fireball, which if you see me in public, please don't buy me a shot of fireball. Freddie likes Rumpelman's everybody. I'm retiring from Fireball, I think. I just can't do it anymore. And Tyler, it was very good talking to you. Tyler, it was very, thanks.

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