Door Bumper Clear - Preece & Tommy Don't Quite See Eye-To-Eye On The Blaney-Hocevar Deal

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

Welcome back to Door Bumper Clear — your source for hot takes, raw emotion & occasionally a string of words you never thought you'd hear put together in a sentence.This week, Freddie Kraft, Tommy Baldwin & Karsyn Elledge were FINALLY joined by the incomparable Ryan Preece. He shared some insight into his Northeast racing roots and dug into his race at Bristol with the gang.In Spot On, Spot Off, the topics included:Carson Hocevar wrecked Blaney ... twice.The Joey Logano Even Year Myth is REALJustin Allgaier on Jesse Love's "egregious" moveDid Bristol prove the need for stages?The ARCA series optics were toughDuring Reaction Theatre, we had what we think is an all-time high for callers with 743 voicemails left during the week! Wonder why...As we roll through SSHOF, Ask DBC & DBC Picks, we finish up with Weekend Winners, where we talked to Fonda 200 winner Stewart Friesen about his race weekend.Another phenomenal show is the books! Catch y'all next time on DBC. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Bowie. Is this the first time you've read the fucking sheet all year? A bird's shit on my head. That is what reaction theater is for. Getting hammers and calling in. What did they speak? Go. Wax and Crescent. It's going to be gripped up.

Absolutely. These two idiots. Bubba did not do shit, unfortunately. Period. Period. Hey, what's up, everybody? Jesus Christ. You do it.

Somebody do it. Tommy, you always want to do it. Hit it up. What's up, Hey. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to DBC. Freddie.

Hey. How was your weekend? My weekend's great. I have no voice whatsoever. I apologize. This show is going to be rough, but I will get through it. Okay.

All right. A lot of spotting this week. Yeah, a lot of talking. Plus, you had the day off. Yeah, that didn't. It was already gone yesterday. Okay. All right.

Let's get going. We are going. You're in charge right now. You got to go. You got to go around the table. Tommy, how are you this morning? I'm doing well, Fred. I'm doing well. Carson has things.

I'm great. It was my birthday weekend, so I had a great time. What did you do? She left with different hair. She got different hair. Something happened. Friday, I had fun. Just boozed around town.

And then Saturday and Sunday, Mom and I went to a winery. So that was fun. Fun. We've been trying to get this guy in the room for quite a while. He's finally here. He finally agreed. He's regretting it right now. Ryan Priest, welcome to door bubble clear.

I was regretting it until I heard your voice. No, I know you're not going to talk a whole lot. So I'll be all right. You'll be safe. Yeah, there you go. Talk about, let's rewind a little bit. Daytona, like winning that race. Like, what's that mean to you?

Especially, like, from where we kind of all come from, short tracks of the world, like to win out a place like Daytona. Yeah, I mean, you definitely remind me of that week after because my voice was exactly like yours is right now. But, yeah, it was like a big week. You know, I still, even though everybody on, you know, Twitter and all that, they don't look at the clashes like your first win. I still do. The fact that it didn't pay points doesn't mean it still pays out like money and the trophy and all that stuff. So I didn't quite get to celebrate that week because we drove down to New Smyrna. Like that's a big week for all of us, right? And but after Daytona being able to celebrate it and it was it was pretty surreal just the whole moment on how it happened and, you know, kind of. kind of getting rid of that points penalty and everything that had happened, it felt really good and like a weight that's lifted off your back.

Talk about your season. Obviously, you're in the chase. What is a successful season for you? Like, is it making the chase enough and now you just want to capitalize from there? Or do you want more than that? I mean, you want more than that. Like, as a racer, I think a finishing 10th or around that area is probably ideal. it's definitely realistic, I think, especially the way everything's going down, kind of all the excitement that's been happening this year.

And, you know, for us, to be a contender to win championships, you need to finish top five in stage points like every stage. And then you need to contend for a win. Like that right now, if we're being realistic, we're just not entirely there. We've got to continue to work on it. And that's the part that I love about racing. I mean, Tommy, you've been around me. You're the reason, you know, you, Al Hanke, are the reason that I got in an Exmini car for the first time.

And so you've been there through the days of seeing, not knowing a whole lot to thinking I knew everything and just kind of doing my own thing today. And you're growing up in my right in front of me. Yeah. I'll be honest with you. I mean, it's just like, and the biggest thing that you're saying that you're saying. still doing from when you were a kid is fighting. Yeah. Right?

You are, is that the topic of the show today? Could it be? But anyway, just even during these cup races, that's all I watch you do is fight, right? You are fighting all day long at the end of the day. Oh, when Ryan finish? Oh, top 10, top 12, top 14. It's just, it's a grind. And that's what you've been doing your whole life, right?

It's a grind. And, yeah, I mean, to me, finishing it off at Daytona where you had all the issues, right? Bad crashes and that getting your first official win. But winning on a short track and battling the way you always battled your whole life at Bowman Gray and winning that race. I mean, it just, it's the best, right? That's what he does. Yeah, that's what you do.

You talk about him growing up. Like, one of my favorite pictures is, I mean, I went to Victory Lane. You won in your grandfather's car in Samerna. Yeah. And, like, how old are you? Like, fucking 15 at that time. Well, he was saying it. He was saying they were...

What year was that? Was it 08? I think it was 08. I was 17. So I started racing modifies at 14. Yeah, New Smyrana, though, when you were running those... I remember, Tommy. I was there.

14? I was 7... I started racing and modified it at 14. Yeah. I won the Florida modified the skinny tire race when I was 17. That picture is always fun for me because it's like... It's just like me, you, Herman, Kelly. And you're gonna find your grandfather.

Yeah, but it, yeah, I mean, long road, right? And, yeah. Talk about your race the other night. I know, like, obviously I got a lot of shit going. I can't, like, I saw you get a lap, Lucky Dog, like late, got back in contention. Well, we were on the lead lap. And honestly, what had happened,

and this is where sometimes, you know, that when you have the stage break, or not the stage break, we had that competition caution, and it kind of changed strategies and it opened up. And then there was a caution with how many to go, like 20 to go or whatnot. And it created an opportunity for guys up front to pit

and kind of flip the stage, which is you never really see that at Bristol, right? But then you had an opportunity for the guys that were probably in the, you know, where we were, 16th to 14th range to, you know, try and get track position and get stage points. And we were on the tail end of all that for,

for, you know, the guys that didn't take tires versus the guys that did. We didn't get stage points. And then we lost all our track position. So during stage two, we were able to drive from, you know, 26th to I think 14th or 13th, we actually stayed on the lead lap. And then in stage three, we got caught on the pit cycle

because we were one of the, we were probably, we pitted three laps before that caution came out. Yeah, I mean, obviously you guys were probably half track ahead of us at the time. Just in front of Ryan when we came off the road. And that just, you know, from there all the way until 10 to go or whatnot, it took us that entire time to get back on lead lap. And, you know, that's the challenging part. I enjoy strategy, but at Bristol, at Martinsville, where it's like, you want to pit because your car's not driving great, 100, 130 laps into a run.

But you know, if you pit and the caution comes out like it does, your race is over. So race car drivers, like, pit me now, probably 30 laps before the crew chiefs even thinking, we're going to pit. I saw it, like, we started to bleed a little bit and I'm like, we got to be getting close. Like I knew like the windows and they're like, all right, we just need 40 more. And I'm like, oh shit. I was like, oh, boy. But I'll tell you, I mean, the race was a really good race. I mean, they were comers and goers.

Both groups were working. The middle group was working at times too when you would have a little bit of slow pace. But Bristol's back. I mean, I think as a whole. I think the cup race was really good. I was surprised. Like, I felt like the other races kind of got single file to the top a little bit fast than I expected. And they,

that race has kind of suffered there, but like I thought a cup race was much better than the other two races. So it was, Bristol was different this time. The outside really, and I'm sure you saw Exfinity or O'Reilly and, uh, and the trucks do it as well. They could go above the black. Like the closer you got to the fence, the more grip there was to a certain extent. And it even started to rubber up right up against the fence. And, um, it just made it to where the bottom and the top in our race anyways was like incredibly close. You know, I felt like the outside was dominant on entry and exit. But if you could be disciplined enough to wrap the line on the bottom of one and two and

three and four, you could just roll so much speed. And this is, yeah, to your point, like Bristol. It's, this is one of the, I would say the best bristles we've had in a long time from a driver's standpoint of, you know, all the discipline it takes to get around there. At one point yesterday or Saturday, he was, he was, he was, he was, not happy with how our car was up top. So he's like, I'm just going to have to run the bottom. Sorry, I got a one lane race car.

I just have to run the bottom. I'm like, right. We'll fucking run the bottom. Like, and we hit all of a city. Discipline. Wrapped the line. We drove by like three guys. I'm like, it's fine.

Past the bottom, Bubba. I was like, just run the bottom. Yeah. Looks like it sucks so bad. Wild finish, obviously, before we get to the other bullshit. Legano, just right place, right time seems like. freshest tires. Was he,

he had the freshest time. He had two, right? I think he put two on. Yeah. Yeah. And like, one of the biggest

takeaways from me, I was talking about this yesterday was, was, Carson's Carson. Like, we'll talk about that a little while.

But like, one of the things that I laughed about was, it looked to me like Ty Gibbs was like, I don't care. I've put myself

in a position where I'm lost control this race. I'm making sure you don't win. Like, I don't care if Joey passed me on the bottom.

I'm just going to run you in the fence. And, Because, like, that's what it looked like. No, I don't think so. I think they were racing hard, and I think, I think Ty could have really run him into the fence, like the guys did the night before, right? But he didn't.

He still salvaged a good finish, right? Yeah. I mean, but I think they were racing hard. I mean, I don't think it was no different than you guys battling Bowman Gray. We were using each other up to the top, right? I didn't see anything bad. No. As bad as Saturday.

Saturday. Friday night's race, you know, which was horrible. Two guys were terrible doing what they were trying to do. Terrible. Terrible. But I just think, I think they were racing hard. I think that was just hard racing. And I think it just slowed up not only their momentum,

but the five's momentum a little bit, allowed the 22. I feel like that's just the MO of the 22. Like, be there, be there, be there. Oh, shit. Like, shit falls in my lap sometimes. It doesn't take himself out of the races. Yeah, that's just there. He puts himself in position.

Yeah. That's half the battle. Took a lot of years, too. Did he do that back in the day? What the hell was that quarter major track? Silver City. Silver City? I think we all did at one point in time in our careers,

especially starting out when we're seven or eight years old. Yeah. What else we got from that race? From the cup race? Fucking Riley. God damn it, Riley. Like, we come off Pinroad, like two laps later. Like put it out.

Yellow's out. I'm like, who spun? I looked down, I'm like, fuck. And I think he did it right in front of Danny, which is probably worse for him. But that, like you said, that flipped the race. Like that flipped kind of the entire race right there because that trapped a lot of guys a lap down or two laps down, like that were in contention. Well, and I think the, like in my mind, right, all we can see is what's it like one or two cars in front of us and kind of know who's behind us. Right.

So we don't see the 36 cars, the entire, the entire race. playing out. And for me, in the moment, I'm thinking to myself, because if I was a car that was two or three laps down before I had pitted, I'm running as long as possible and hoping for a caution. I was concerned that some of those guys were going to wait, you know, and stay out. And then they were actually going to get on a lead lap and then benefit from this caution. And it completely changed the, you know, their entire races. So in the moment, I'm like, great, here we go. You got guys that ran, you know, 25th and took a chance and it all worked out for him. And that didn't It didn't necessarily happen, but still, it's like, yeah, there's a lock and change.

It flipped it for about 100 laps, right? But after that, the same guys were in the same positions when it was all said and done. I mean, you know, the last couple races, if you think about it, when you're as a crew chief or, you know, when you're out there racing, there's only been a set of three or four guys that are capable of winning. You're getting to the point of last 100 laps. Like you're gambling on those guys, right? So the biggest beneficiary of that caution, I think, was Carson. Yeah. Because, like, Carson was, he was good.

He was like a top five car, but he wasn't, like, in contention to win at that point. But him and Blaney were the only two that stayed out. And he restarted up front. He never gave that track position back for the rest of the race until, you know, the very end. But, like, that he was, I think, one of the biggest beneficiaries of that caution. Yeah. And honestly, so I went back and watched the race. He was floating around, what, seventh to tenth to ten?

Yeah. kind of in that area. And, you know, when you put a car and drop them in, in the lead, it's, especially with the speed they have, it's hard for them to go from first back to 10th. Like, I just don't see that happening. So that's when kind of, you know, the chaos started happening is because you're racing. You're racing really hard. And he's definitely not going to give an inch.

So that just makes it that way. Yeah. And I feel like that a lot of times. I feel like even with Bubba, like, we're running 10th or 12th and up. And Bubba's like, if you put me in the lead, I can lead the right. You know, he's like, wherever you put me is where I'm going to run a lot of times. You know, wherever you come out of the pits, whatever it is. Like, wherever you put this car, that's where we're going to be.

Like, shake out after a restart if we're 10th. See, the fun part about Bristol this time was in stage two, you saw. I don't want to, I don't necessarily know if it would be tire fall off. But because the run was, what, 125 laps, green flag, probably the last 25 laps, like you were talking about. Some of those guys were, we were one of them. Yeah. Well, and that's what kept me going forward. Yeah, because we were going to a long run.

You had a two-groove racetrack that was two grooves far away from each other, so Arrow wasn't playing as much as a factor, right? And plus it was a short track. So all that came into play. And, I mean, look, I thought it was a good race. I mean, what was the poll this week? 73%? Yeah, so, I mean, it was good.

Sheldon Creed, again. Good for him. He's making me nervous. I wish he would get a little more excited in his interviews, though. Oh, you do? I mean, you know. I mean, just, I don't want, I haven't seen his interview. I think he's too much like Tristan McKee.

He's just not excited at all. Tristan McKee did not give one fuck about one of that championship today. Even in cars tour, like when he would win, we're all kind of like, oh, well, this should be an easy victory lane. Like, he just, no, Sheldon's fun. It's fun when Sheldon wins because you get content for a few days. He's, uh, he's on. it right now.

Yeah. And that point leader right by 11 at which. Yeah, he's 11. I don't think anybody saw coming. No. Before this. They just, just the way it goes.

You know the point system and everything the way it is now, you just have to peak at the right time. You need to win races. You need to get stage points. And if you do it, especially right now, the last, I think they are, what is it eight races, seven races, their playoff or chase format is, that's all it is. Well, not all it is, but you need. to peak at the right time.

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here at Dirtymo Media. Go check it out now. Truck race. Who the hell won the truck race? Garcia, man. Oh, yeah, first time winner. Congratulations. No tires.

That truck was fast. It was fast in practice. It was because Tim Dugger was sponsored. He had a lot of downforce with his big ass head on the back of it. But he was he was on the pole when it rained out. Like he was fast in practice. Like he was really good all weekend. It was good last year there too.

And they put him out front. They made it called no tires. And I was like, ooh, like this guy's, we'll see what happens here. And he just fucking took off. I was like, okay, see you later. I missed the end of it. How did Lane Riggs end up? So Lane had a loose wheel.

He came down at pit road for something. The one car wrecked him too. Then he got to him. He got to a mess with a one. Gotcha. But, yeah, he had an issue earlier, put him back there. And then he got, trying to come back through, he got torn, taken out. I didn't want to give a shout out.

Bailey Curry, I think, did a really good job. He's really good there, man. And, I mean, that kid's pretty good everywhere. Like, he deserves a shot in something decent. You know, everybody does. Like, everybody does? Not everybody. Definitely not everybody.

Some people can't even back up. But other than that, like, he's a guy that I feel like when he gets and stuff, like he elevates whatever the hell he's driving. He did a really good job during night. And didn't, it's very easy in those moments, Ryan, you know, like, you only get a couple of good shots and he could have easily like wiped guys out for the lead, trying to go for a win.

And he never stepped over the line. He just took his whatever he finished second or third. Well, I thought he did a great job. For example, on that restart, when he was, you know, potentially almost going for the lead in the middle of three and four and he came off the PJ1, that in a moment, like if he wasn't composed, yeah, he could have slid up. up, then took all the side force off his truck, and then he could erect. But yeah, I mean,

those are the moments that define people. And, you know, guys like him or kind of the whole thing of what I went through, it's like, sometimes you just need a chance. And just because you're running in a car that's running, you know, 20th or 15th, I mean, Luke's going through it. And it's nothing against those teams. It's just the resources that other teams have. Like, how do you, how do you compete against, you know, certain organizations that get all the wind tunnel time or the money to to do that or buy all the tires. Like, I remember when I first sat down with JTG in 20, you know, 19 and I said,

do you guys buy the full tire allotment? They, you know, Tad looked at me like I was like, like I had 10 heads because that was not probably one of the conversations that most drivers had had. But I came from, you know, Tommy, you know, you struggled, you fought your entire Cup series career. It's like, show up.

You'd get the, you know, the number of tires that you could. and then you'd try and go buy tires from other people. And it's just like, there's a whole different world to the cup garage or there used to be. It's not as much anymore. But the cup garage that I first came into, it's completely different than it is than it was. So seeing Bailey go out and doing what he did, I was pumped for him. I mean, he's a mechanic there too, right? He's a car chief, yeah.

Exactly. He's been running pro late models with us too lately and has been doing really well. Yeah. And it's just been nice to have him. And it's with it, again, a number. team that is trying to build. That team is literally the dad and his daughter and like one guy that they can sometimes bring for help sometimes.

Like it's not like he's there running with Donnie Wilson. Yeah. And somebody like him immediately, they have the respect of the garage. Yeah. Right? You got the respect of myself. You have the respect to the people working on the race cars. And to me, that's a big deal.

As somebody that kind of went through all that, like what stands out to you about drivers? Like, what are you looking for? When you say, like, we talk about Bailey, we talked about Honeycut like this a couple years ago. Like, you watch guys and like what, it's not winning races so much. It's what? Like, what do you see? Respect. Yeah.

I mean, there's, I mean, it's, to me, I feel like I have to earn the respect of the people that I was racing with, right? And then once you have that respect, it's just, it's different. And that was the old school racer, I think, the way I was brought up to race. You know, my father made me, you know, and I'm not saying because you, you know, and I'm not saying, because you've been around for a long time. I pissed a lot of people off. But at the end of the day, it was always like you tried to race

or have the respect to the other racers that you have. Yeah. And I feel like you're one of the biggest guys on just I'll race you. Yeah. Like we've had a lot of battles with Ryan over the last couple years.

And like I feel like you and Bubba raced the hell out of each other. But it's never, I don't feel like we ever have an issue. Like Bubble air block the fuck out of you like he always does. Or like, but you guys will race hard. But it's never crossed. line where it's like, all right, we're

gonna take each other out or something like that. It's like, you're gonna be mad maybe, but like, it's never, like, it's just, you're frustrated. It's more than man. Yeah. What else you got? Luke finished 19. Oh, yeah.

Hey, Luke had a good night. Like, a quiet, a nice quiet night. Like, just nothing went wrong. Yeah, I mean, look, and that was the goal from the beginning of this year, right? We started off a rocking him. Same thing. Nice and quiet.

15, what was it? eight, nine cup drivers in that race. He finished his 22nd, lead lap. I thought it was, one lap down at Rockingham first time on a big track and had some other good runs. And, you know, I was having a good run at Bist, Dover, having a good run of the first Bristol, got spun out. And, you know, just things happen and just, you know, I just think he just got down

on himself for what was going on. But it's like, like Ryan mentioned before, it's, you're battling, you got to, that's a win, right? to finish 19th on the lead lap with the team that's really working hard. I mean, and kudos to Josh Riyom of stepping up after our issues in New Hampshire and really getting on Luke and making Luke do what he needs to do for a race car driver. Because as a dad, you can – and I see Ryan and his dad all the time going at it, right? It's like –

No, never, not those too. As a dad, you can only tell your kids enough times. They're not going to listen. Yeah, and somebody else could say the same exact thing. Right. It's like, yeah, whatever. I'm like, I can't, I can only tell them what I see. And if you don't believe, but when other people start telling them, then.

There's a thing for learning for yourself, Tommy. That too. Just like you went through it, I'm sure at one point. And I did. And Freddie did. And you did. We're all stubborn in that way. There's a couple of you guys had a really fucking stubborn, Ryan.

A couple of you, Ryan, that are really stubborn. Right? And Luke, and, you know, it's just, look, like you said, you're right, Ron. I mean, you've got to learn on your own. And I think it was a big step. I mean, and you do go through a phase. Like, I mean, maybe I was just a brat, but. Yes.

Or not. But, like, you do go through a phase where, like, no matter what anybody's telling you, you're at the age 18, 19, where you think no matter what anyone else is telling you that what you're thinking is right or what you're doing is right or that you know best. And then eventually you turn around one day and you're like, oh, shit. I should have listened to what they were telling me. My dad's been gone for over 20 years and every day I'm reminded that he was right. Yep.

Tire policy, obviously. That's what you guys wanted, right? Yeah. That's what we want, right? Just put in our hands, the wet tires, like, let us change the fucking tires whenever we want to. Like I did a video for Dirty Mill overdrive the other day. The only thing I question is the, like, just letting Pitt Road be. wet and under green it's kind of free for all.

Like it's still normal rules. Like you can run 100 miles an hour down on 100 miles. You can run normal pit road speed. And that's still maybe a little dangerous on a wet pit road. I'd be concerned about that. But at the end of the day, it was a step in the right direction. Hopefully everything goes great. I think that that's what everybody wants.

Like as a crew chief, that's what you want. Right. I mean, everyone fought forward at NASCAR said, okay, here you go. Well, oh, pit road. Well, here you go. You guys are going to have to manage that yourself. You're going to have to decide. whether you want to go down pit road speed at 35 miles an hour

or 45, whatever, the short track, you know, where you're running, or you want to go down at 15 and not hurt anybody. It's going to be your choice. You want to spit out on pit road? You're going to spend out on pit road. Ryan, I feel like, and he's been around long enough to note, like, now to compare it. But I feel like this new regime of O'Donnell and these guys are listening to the drivers, listening to the fans.

And if people want something, they kind of make it happen. I mean, that seems like the way this year's going. I'm making, that's why you've seen some of the excitement we've had this year, right? And I don't know, man, I'm just, I like, I like the fact that we're not just kind of being coddled anymore, right? Like, and I think that's what made the sport great for the longest time. And, yeah, that's all I got on that. But, no, I'm a huge fan of where, we're, we're, I don't know. I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but it's, um, I like the fact that we're not,

You know, before in interviews or in other moments, you felt like you had your hands tied behind your back on things you could say or not say or do. And now I feel like you can show emotion, right? You're not going to be penalized for that. And I'm okay with that. Some of us get penalized for it. I won't say anything. There's a... I don't think you would anymore. I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about... Yeah. The guy next to him. I mean, I think both people. Both that you've been in panelized. I mean, I've been, yeah. I got to spend that you didn't get to spend it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think looking at both of you.

Yeah. Yeah, well, I'll be honest with you. As long as I know where the line is. And the line has been set. So that's fine. I'm okay with it now. Yeah. Not okay with it, but I'm okay with it.

Okay with it a little bit. More okay. Yeah. More okay then. Yeah. Bob Pockris tweets that NASCAR would rather do a short track test than a Daytona test in January. Why?

I'm going to tell you right now, this is, here we go. Don't get fine. This is the time. He knows where the line is. We're good. Go ahead.

You're allowed to say anything on this podcast. Yeah, I believe it. It's, uh, tires are the biggest thing that's going to fix everything. Well, yeah,

I know. I've been, okay. He preaches about tires. Yeah. You can, you can give me a thousand horsepower and I'm, I'm somebody that wants more horsepower.

I like that. I don't know what it takes to do that, but it's not a, man, we need to change all this, you know, suspension geometry and all these other things. If we have tires that, and we've seen it happen,

we saw it at Martinsville last year, like if we have tires that if you beat them on a restart for 20 laps, guess what, lap 40 to 60, you're going to start paying the price. Lap 70 to 100, you're going to be wishing that you had that restart back. That's what creates great racing. It's no different than Bristol. It took 80 to 100 laps to get there. But once we got there, you saw guys.

start to struggle. I don't want to see guys go out there and run a hundred laps like they're qualifying every lap. That's not fun. There is no strategy to that other than you did the best job in the shop making a car as fast as possible, which is great, which is what you're supposed to be able to do. But I don't want to get beat by another car. I want to get beat by another driver. Yeah. Yeah. And like... Like you think because everything is so close elsewhere with, you know, the cars and the competition and everything, like you got to have something like that that provide some strategy and some variables. It's so close in every racing division that we have.

I mean, it's just, and what separates it is, it's a tire wear. I mean, it's the, who beats the tires on, you know, it's, it's, it's a little bit of difference between Jack and Luke right now, to be honest with you, I mean, if Jack just isn't as good as Luke right now of controlling the throttle on the first 40 laps, right? It's like, you, it's, you said the same thing. It's just like all about the tires, right? And I think what you started saying was we need to work on a tire for Daytona, right? We need...

Anywhere. We need to work on the tire for Daytona. We need off throttle time. We need those guys. Remain calm here, Tommy. We went in August at night. There was no son. I promise you, handling is going to be a problem in February.

Still needs to be... We need that on a T-shirt. Remain calm, Tom. and then it's got his blood pressure 127 over whatever on the on the sleeve. Honestly, there's three things about racing. Horsepower, aerodynamics,

tires. No shit. Well, we took all the... You're telling the people, not you stupid. Oh. Yeah. But I'm just saying,

you want to have the biggest impact on what happens throughout around. We just keep getting aggressive on tires. And kudos the good year because they did. They went down that path and they've gone down that path. And we have seen, Like Martinsville, I thought, I thought Martinsville's been awesome, you know, and we've seen people have to pit during a run, not because, not because they wanted to, but because they had to. That's what's going to create the different racing. And then even Richmond, I mean, I think Richmond's always a great one. So I'd love to know what, I don't know. I get frustrated on that.

I mean, what are they going to test, Tom? Like, what are they going to change? Like, what can they change at this point? You're not going to put new motors in it. I mean, different, you know, we're not going to go test and put three different motors in and try to know, like, what can they change? Do you know? I mean, yeah, I mean, I, you know, the engine stuff's a little touchy because you got, you get to a certain point on the RPM stuff, which, where you need to run. And it, it does become excessive on engine parts where, right? And what we tried in the beginning years ago to make sure we get a certain amount of races on these engines, it is, economically it's worked, right?

Getting to the next step of the horsepower that they gave all the guys this year at certain tracks has worked, right? You disagree or agree? It's worked, right? You think inside the car, driving the car, has that been better for you to control the car? It shows up in Martinsville and it shows up in Richmond. Outside of those places, you know, in Iowa, the track's too big, to be honest with you. The gear probably wasn't necessarily where we needed to be because you were probably trying to get full throttle at 5,600 RPM, where Martinsville, Richmond, you're at least downshifting and you feel the torque of the engine. So, yeah, I mean, there was a difference there.

So. And Bowman Gray. Yeah. And those are the places that Goodyear has built the softest tire they possibly can at this point. They're still trying to get to the next step. They have a lot of work to do in their company to try to get to the next step. That's as far as they could go for a while, right? Remember tire wars back in the day?

They all just kept pushing each other, you know? Yeah, but that was way – I mean, then you – they – the tire people who were so worried about it back then at blowing tires. Because we were over Cambered and over, you know, these wider tires aren't going to do this. We're not going to have this issue. We're running. Sure you want to put that out there? No, I mean, at this point in time, I don't think we're going to have.

We don't see that where. We don't see that issue. So it's the wider tires definitely opened up a whole different world for them. Yeah. So they're working on it. I'm excited. It's going to be pretty. Why don't you go help them now that you don't have a job?

go. You never know, right? Never know. Oh, you've already been in, you've been in the factory. You've been in the factory. Oh, I've been in there. You've had a hard hat on. I've been to all the factories.

I've seen, I've seen them all being built. It's, uh, it's, uh, pretty interesting. Yeah. Tommy walked in there. I was like, hey, you just got to get some Tylen, Zionian, mineral spirits and throw it in the blend. It'll be just fine. Yeah.

Oh, boy. Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first? I think he's a whiny bitch. That's what I think. Send it. Why me?

Well, I'm dying to get to spot-on, spot off. Are you guys ready? Topic number one, Carson Hosevar, Rex, Ryan Blaney. Twice. Spot-on, spot-off. Well, he did, but it was Ryan's fault. Yeah, yeah.

I don't, how do you, as either side. I know it wasn't his fault on the racetrack, but I'm just glad somebody finally walked down there and at least tried to knock the shit out of him. He didn't do anything. Just because? Like, he was just fed up. Finally, like, just fed up.

For what? You've taught Ryan a lot of things in his career. You need to teach him something else. After that, I'm, I mean, a host of ours said, I never threw a punch of anybody. But Ryan, I can tell you, the only people he's ever fought is his two sisters.

Right? I mean, that poor kid's never, Never thrown a punch in his life. And look, it's just, I don't know of the frustration. You know, Ryan Blaney does not race like that, right? He always give people room when they're passing and when it's happening. I don't know what happened. I don't know if he just said, you know what, ah, you know, and just took a shot.

But it was Ryan's fault. At the end of the day, he's the one that came down on him. There's two grooves, right there, especially there. And look, I counted, you know, I got like 12 guys on my list that in all reality, you don't make those decisions on these guys, right? Because they're not going to lift, right? You got the Stenhouse, the Zane Smiths, the Ty Gibbs. I mean, you got this, there's 12 of them, right?

And Hose 4 is another one of them. It's just... And he's probably the top of a list. Yeah. Well, there's... I would say Stenhouse is the top of the list of that of not giving anybody an inch when you're pulling in... That's just because he wrecked you 25 years ago.

No, no, it's happened... It happens a lot. And it's not like... I'm not saying anything. bad about Ricky. It's just like, you should know. You should know better. And listening to the audio from the spotter, I mean, he said, cross over, inside, inside, you know, I mean, he gave him, yes, things happen fast, but I've been watching Ryan Blaney race his whole life, right? He's never done that before. He's never, you know, he's always past people clean. People always give him the

respect. I feel that when you're racing Ryan Blaney and you, you're, you're, you're, you're tell me if I'm wrong or not, it's easier for you to let him go because you know when you're racing to get him, he's going to let you go, right? He's probably the mark, the easiest guy on the track to race against, right, of not feeling the pressure of, man, this guy's going to give me a hard time or, you know what I'm saying? So I just feel that he made a mistake. And I don't know why he was mad. Was he just figured he was just going over there and going to fight for everybody? That's, you know, that's...

Maybe it wasn't, like, particularly just about last night. Like, maybe it was just, like, compounding from all the issues that everybody's and you're just like, you're just over it. And that was the time that he chose. Was it the greatest choice? Probably not. But that, I mean... No, still, it's just...

Real quick. Go ahead. Have you ever been in a race car? Yes. When? 2000. Figure eight, man. Two.

What was the last time you drove a race car? I never drove her. There we go. Okay. Have you driven one? Yeah. There we go. Yeah, that's right.

Micros and, yeah. She flipped all of them. There's a lot going on in your head in those moments. And when I watched the three laps before and Ryan was running the top, went to the bottom. Carson tried to run the bottom in three and four. He missed it because you had to be really disciplined. Ryan got under him and then they raced through one and two.

He cleared him in three and four coming off. got up and then, you know, that was where Carson, you can make the decision as a driver to say, okay, he just passed me clean. I'm probably not going to hold them off in all reality. Like the 12 and the 54, I thought, were the fastest cars that night. He's going to drive away. Unless you start knocking them around or doing things, but with that long, you know, in the race left, you're just not going to. That's the racer sense. Like, that's the smart part, right? Carson crossed them. And yeah, Ryan, Ryan started coming down.

But there's like a both sides thing. There is both sides. Hold on, Tommy. Calm down in your Long Island. Put it down for a second. I know, but it depends on who you're racing, Ryan. It depends on that, like I said, there's a certain amount of people that you know you can't do that. Right?

I'm just talking about it in general. I know. If you're treating everybody. You can talk all in general you want, but there's a group that you can't do that. Carson could have lifted. Ryan could have not come down. To me, it's just, it's, it is what it is. That's racing.

That's frustrating. The difference is how many times has Carson been in an incident this year? Quite a bit. So the benefit of the doubt, it's like, you know, if, I don't know, if whoever does it, you're probably not as pissed. So I don't know. I'm not really going to speak a whole lot on it other than that was probably one of the most racing incidences. that I've seen to this point.

It's just, it was Bristol. That's one of the most, the hottest races that we go to, one of the most physically demanding, for sure. And, um, you know, I think it's just,

like you said, Tommy, I think it was just a poor decision. Because I think if Ryan just goes and runs the top, like, he gets him off at two he's gone, right? And I think it was just,

and that's not like Ryan doesn't race like that. That's what I'm saying. And I don't know if he, you're, you race him hard. because that's how he races everybody else too. You know, like he, it's just, it was a, it was a bad decision on Ryan's part. It's going to probably cost him a shot of the championship, honestly, unless he goes on a hell

of a run here. Like, it's, that's going to, that's made derail his whole season. What about, can we talk about Ty Gibbs's water bottle throw real quick? I mean, that was funny. We do, but we, let's talk about that second part. Like, we're going to have to take this guy to, like, Belport and teach him how to fight. Like, you can't walk up and get punched in the face. Like, you can't do that.

If you're going over there, you better swing. Like, always swing first, right? I wonder if his plan was to even swing because he just kind of walked up and shoved him and then like it was on. If your plan wouldn't the swing, don't go over there. That's not, yeah, that's not how you do it. I mean, it's just, you know, it's a lot. Not that Tommy would have any idea.

A lot of technique involved. He didn't have any of them. I think I saw him trip over a tire or something maybe. Yeah. I was just glad Phil was a little shorter so he didn't get hit in the head. Dude. The thing is now, like, the biggest thing I took away from this, Like Carson's reach is going to be a problem.

Like he could just kind of hold you at arm's length and just hit you from 40 feet away. And that was the problem. Ryan stayed at his reach. Brian needed to be inside. You got to get in. He didn't do it all. The technique was completely wrong on how you're supposed to fight.

I'll give it to Carson like the collar grab and then the right hook. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Ty Gibbs won the fight for me, I think. Ty Gibbs throwing the water bottle was funny. All right. The Joey Lugano Even Year myth is every bit as real as the door bumper clear guest bump.

Spot on, spot off. Hard to argue right now. We said this guy I said on here that I didn't think he had a chance. And here he is, whatever, 15, 16 points out of lead. And just, you know, now, but now is when we're going to find out, I think. Now we're going to these mile and a halfs. Like, can the Ford's show what they've showed the last two months? Can you win Kansas?

I can try. Yeah, I think so. Honestly, I'm going to tell you right now, you got Martinsville, you got Phoenix, you have Talladega, and you have Homestead, right? Take out those mile and a halfs where Denny's been extremely dominant and, you know, Toyota's and all that. But Ryan's been just, Ryan's been pretty fast. It's not, it doesn't come as easy as at times, but Blaine is fast Kansas, right? So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think, I think Joey, you know, he's, you know, he's, He's got everything going, peaking at the right time. He's just like the race is like his season. You know, he's just in the right spot at the right time. It seems like almost all the time, whether it's Paul puts him there or whatever it is.

He's just never out of it. Like you never feel like he's just never a factor. Scrappy. Yeah. As an organization, they do this every year, man. They just roll right along. Roll just until then the playoffs, about the last 12 races, 14.

Right. All of a sudden it's like, oh, they're right. running better. I mean, what was it? Five, six, seven weeks ago, we were talking how bad the forwards were, right? I mean, look at you guys. You got to look at the trash, got to look at the package. There's a lot of things that play into why, you know, the beginning part of the season, it can be a grind if you're not good at mile and a halfs. Like from April till June, the middle of June can be an absolute grind. And then you really don't go to a true mile and a half for a while. So it's, our season is, is a grind.

Yeah, for sure. Another good run for Josh Barry the other night. He was, he was fast. You know, like, he's just clicking. Like, seven top tens in the last 10 races or something crazy like that. So he's done a good job. I saw the 42 race of shit out of him, ironically enough, for some reason. I don't know.

I think, do you think as a driver, Ryan, and as a team of all the things that you've been through, what Josh has done, how he's been driving the differences. Have you seen a difference of, like, if he applied that last year, would... I don't think he applied anything different. Okay.

I think Josh Berry is a great race car driver. Yes, I do, but don't you think his intensity level has picked up a little bit behind the seat? Or, like, what do you see out there when you're driving around that 21 car, the difference from they were running 25th or worst 11 weeks ago to now? What do you see?

Not much different. Yeah, speed, man. I mean, it's, it's, Josh has always raced me a certain way, and he gets the same respect in return. And, you know, I see the same Josh Barry that wins car store races and wins races and everything he gets in.

Like, you don't just get in a race car and forget how to drive. It, the difference, um, this, this level is extremely challenging. And, you know,

he, he, his career path. just like mine has been a grind. And I don't think Josh has changed anything of what he's done other than maybe be more vocal. Because there is a part when you get into these, you know, organizations where Ryan Priest's what he says to his father racing is modified, isn't what I'm going to sit in a room on Monday and say it is direct. And sometimes you just got to think about, you know, how you're delivering the message of what you need in a race car.

you and I, I could sit here and yell at you about what we need for springs and bars and trailing arm angles and all this funny stuff. But I can't do that, you know, with how we set up our race cars and, you know, everything in the cup series. It's just completely different. It's grassroots first going, you know, cup racing. So it's a little bit different. I think that has probably changed a little bit of everything, right? And we talk about here a lot. You start running better. You go out later in qualifying. You qualify. better, like, when you're in that hole, when you go out in the top five of qualifying every week, it's hard to dig out of there.

He started in the back. So that, I mean, you didn't see any personnel change, right? There was no personal change. And it's, like Ryan said, it's also a tracks. It's a second year working with miles, right? Yeah. So, like, things take time and more time than they ever have before. Like, right now, we're expected to go out and win and do all these things in the first year.

We don't get to test. Like, this isn't 1990, where you could all of a sudden spend, you know, when you were done on Sunday, you were at a racetrack on Tuesday and you were testing until Thursday. And like, I'm sure if you ever brought on James McMurray, you know, Mark Martin, all those guys and talk to them about the stories of when they ran and how hard they ran back in the day of, you know, going and testing and learning and all this stuff, we don't have that. You know how many times I've tested in my national series career? I think I can count on one hand, five.

We were gone one year, I think, 280 days. Yeah. Between testing and racing. 280 days just in the Cup series. Yeah. So how do you develop a what you want, what you don't want in,

you know, a race car with your crew chief and your engineers that are, you know, staring, you know, at these squiggly lines that are telling you if it's going to drive good or not. Like, it's just, this is, this is a period of time in racing where as much as you want to say a driver needs more seat time,

it's like, no, I need more seat time at the actual racetrack working with my crew chief and my engineers and my team at the racetrack, not just going in a simulator that, you know, what happens if your arrow model is off or your tire model or, you know, that's a constantly, that's a tool that is constantly needing development. And if, you know, if Goodyear changes their tire, now that needs to be changed in there. that's not right. It's just like now you're setting up a race car for something that might

not necessarily be what you're going to be driving at the racetrack. It's incredibly, it can be frustrating. And I know, and I thought about this yesterday, I know we've been fighting that we want more, you know, everyone wants more practice and that 50 minutes is good, but we didn't get anything. Ah, you got something. Hold on. Beggars can't be choosers. I'll take two sets of tires and 50 minutes. He's just saying this weekend. This past weekend. And look how good the race was. I mean, so it's like, God, I mean, what's... You want that because, you know, as a crew chief, you know, you want to make the car better. Oh, yeah.

As a driver, I want to give you feedback to make my car better. I want more practice, but all I'm saying is... Every time we... More practice makes the box smaller. It's always... Like, it's just the way it goes. Like, it's just... We went and tested.

This car came out, we went and tested Martinsville, like, three times a year. It felt like, and we just kept getting this... Like, we just made the box. smaller and smaller. But it depends on which side of that garage you're on. Yeah. So I'm neutral. I've been on both sides right now.

I've been on the side that, hey, man, I don't, we don't need practice. But I was on the side that if we didn't get practice, that first stage, if we didn't go lap down, it was a miracle. Yeah. You know, and it's just, that's a, that's a, it's a nice topic to think about. Oh, it's a nice topic to think about. It's an idiot. after contact with the number two forced him into the wall Justin Allgaier calls Jeff Jesse loves

Jeffie Love Jesse loves move egregious But at the end of the day it's Bristol Spot on spot off Yeah you want to snap out about this I mean kudos to Justin to being so nice right I mean Tyler Green said this yesterday He said Justin is like the disappointed dad

In the O'Reilly series Yeah I mean He's like I love love you. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I mean, yeah, I just, God, I hate it for him. And, you know, I hate it for Jesse. I mean, he just made a bent bonehead move. I mean. But it's a stupid move. He shouldn't have done it. But like, at least he owned it. Like, he didn't get out and like make excuses. He said, man, I fucked up. Like, I fucked up. I made an enemy I didn't need to make. Like, it's going to

come back on me. I deserve it. Like, at least he owned it when he got out. Like, you don't see that a lot, I feel like. I mean, he heard himself. Now, that's a really great topic to think about responding in such a mature, grown-up way. It's fine to respond that if you don't do it

anymore. Yeah. Do you actually learn from it? I mean, we can all say a lot of things to get out of trouble at that point. You've been in this position in different race cars throughout your career. How hard is it when you're battling for a lead to not

cross the line? You know what I mean? Like you obviously are giving 110% pushing the car as hard as you can trying to pass somebody. Like how fine is that line that you like can't step over it? I mean, I did it to Todd Zeggity in 2008. It was unintentional. I remember when it happened and I couldn't believe when it happened. But Todd and I are friends. Like even before that we were friends.

And you morally like it was like when I won Daytona, I didn't want to ship somebody on the last lap to win my friends. first race. Like, it wasn't going to be okay getting out of a race car just because I shipped a guy out of the way, winning that way. I wanted to win a certain way. And same thing. When you go into the last corner, anyone can just drive it in three car lengths, four car lengths deep, and ship somebody to the moon, right? It's not hard. So it just depends on the type of racer you are. Some drivers don't care. I do. And I try to have the respect of the ones that I'm racing. if you want my respect, you race me the same way.

And it's just, I mean, then it got snowballed from there because then I think who was a Taylor? The Taylor stuff, Jesse and the fans, like it's just the end of that race kind of got a little hodgepodge there for a little bit. I think both guys. I mean, the 54, he had a chance to win right there too, and he did the same thing. It's just, yeah, I mean, he learned. Hopefully they both learned, and next time they're in that position, I mean, probably cost Jesse, how many spots? Yeah, he fell. He was behind us, I think.

Yeah, I mean, so it costs him a lot of points of making that decision. So, yeah, I hate it. I hate it because he's a good kid. Obviously, he knows he's smart. He does all the right things, you know, out of the race car of working so hard. He's got a lot of things to look forward to getting into that fast 21 car, right? Now it's like, okay, I'm getting into a fast 21 car now. I can't just say, well, they've been struggling.

You know, they're not, the 21 car is not. struggling. You better be ready, Jesse. All three races at Bristol highlighted the importance of stage point. Spot on, spot off. Fred? Yeah, I mean, it's like, this is why I've been hard, like, people are like, get rid of these fucking stages, and I'm like, no, you can't.

Because I like the reward guys that are fast. And if you're, like, you look at the other night in every race, Lane Riggs, was you know, I think he won both stages, finished 32nd. But he got 25 points.

And that's the same as 10th or 12. I would argue this then. I'll let you finish. I'm just saying every race had, it was Lane. It was Justin. I'm sorry, Quaple in the O'Reilly race. Like guys that ran off front earned some points. Like where you can like, and it's obviously like sometimes it's self-inflicted

where you put yourself in the back like Ryan. And what happens when you do one of those? I'm just going to say what happens if you win two stages? So you get 20 points. And then in stage three, you just, you know, a caution comes out after the laps. You make a dumb move. You wreck. Now you finish 36, but you still get 16th place points.

So you didn't finish the race, but you still get the reward of that. Like, that doesn't make sense to me because the whole point of racing is to be there at the end and finish the race, right? Like, to me, I feel like we do overvalue stage points, in my opinion. and they are, they reward stage points too much. Like, I wish they were less, but that's just my opinion. Nobody cares what you said. Because you don't start racing until the last 50 laps. We don't, we don't.

Hey, I've not heard that form of it, a perspective, and I welcome it. The sticker is, whatever what they say. The sticker, 50 to go is 25th. All of a sudden, the check a flag, he's 10th. Like, so he wants to do that, right? I just, and it, for me, it's, you know, how many times. And listen, it's racing. But I like that, like, you're getting rewarded for running well.

And then something happens. A loose wheel. Whatever takes you out of the race, essentially. You end up losing three laps. Now you finish 32nd. But you're not going home with nothing because you earned, you were leading to race. Did you just say you had a loose wheel? No, no, no.

If you had a loose wheel or something? Yeah, yeah. But that's self-inflicted. So you guys took yourself. I'm just saying you took yourself. So I still think this is just me. I mean, the whole point of racing is to finish the race. Like that should be the main reward.

Everything else should just be like little snacks here. Yeah, but the whole race strategy in the thought process would change because you're not no longer racing the whole race. I wouldn't, I don't, I wouldn't ever say because you didn't give me stage points so they weren't as valuable that I wouldn't drive any different than I would do right now. You wouldn't, but you, you, you, the strategy would be changed during the race because everyone would probably be starting to do the same thing now with the, because, because, because, because you don't have...

I'm not saying take them away. I'm saying make them a little bit less valuable. I don't like 10 points to win. Per stage. 20 points. I think there should be more stages. Cobble finished 24th and got fifth place points yesterday. I mean, I think that's right.

For me, like, I know you disagree, but I just feel like he was rewarded because he ran well and then got, you know, had an issue, whatever broke on their car. Like, I know I'm saying, but it's just... So what do you think the points should be for? Oh, I don't know. I'm not. No, I mean, come on.

I mean, if you're going to say it, it's too complicated if you want to do it the way I'd want to do it. Well, let's hear it. No, I'm just saying like, they're just, they pay out too many points. To me, it's, it's, like I said, it's just my opinion. It's just my opinion. I have to think about it. It is Ryan, and it's just Ryan thinking. So let's move on.

It's almost like the whole point of this segment is to debate topics. It's weird. Jack Baldwin tweets, Parker, please get the cars going a lap down off the track, please. It is dangerous. Listen, this is, this was the most entertaining. It's always the most entertaining race of the year because there's guys out there that have no business being on the race track.

And it's, I laugh about it, but it's not, it's not right. You know what I mean? Like the guys that are up front don't get to race each other because all they're doing all race is dodging these pieces of shit that are rolling around the bottom. Literally, one guy lost 20. one laps in a I don't know they were probably green for 150 of the 200 like

like get I saw Charles Crawl the other day he's he works from ARCA did they not have like a minimum that's he's like what's the solution the solution is set a fucking minimum speed and enforce it like that's what's so hard about that we do it in cup we do it in every other series like I get it you want to give these guys an opportunity

but it literally looks like the Richard Petty driving experience with 10 cars out there. Like, you know what I mean? It's, it's, we were in the suite. I don't know if you were up there for the start of that race, but like, yeah, it got left on lap three. Like, lap three, the guy's getting laughed. Like, what are you doing on the racetrack? You don't belong out here. I'm sorry. That's just, in my opinion, listen, I made a living in ARCA for two years. I did full-time ARCA racing. Yeah, back when there was 20 cars that could race. But it's now, it's become, like, the guy that I'm talking about that lost 20 laps on the green the other day. It's fifth and points.

Yeah. Like, I just, like, it, for me, the biggest problem is watching the guy, it drives me crazy as a driver rank is like, you're, you're sending, you're spending laps trying to set up a pass. And you can't do that in that race because the second you go to the bottom, every three laps you're running into some guy that's running 50 miles an hour slower than you are. I just, it's, it's frustrating to watch from a competitive standpoint. I think it's entertaining. It's very, it's, I tell you, I said the other day before the race, I said, this is going to be. The most entertaining race of the year. I give the guys credit, though.

At least they're, you know, those are home-built, you know, they're preparing their own cars and they're coming and they want to race Bristol. I get it. I agree with you. It probably need to be a little bit faster, so you're not going a lap down every seven laps, eight laps. Stop trying to be so nice. It's fucking embarrassing.

It is. It is. It's embarrassing for all of us racers. That's why I don't put Luke in there. That's why I will not, I don't care. Because, you know why? Because the first five, or six guys that are racing, it costs just as much to run those cars and race against

the motherfucking guys as it does to run a truck race, right? So it doesn't make fucking sense, right, to do that. What are you learning? Do you guys have a swear jar for Tommy? No, what are you really learning racing in the ARCA series right now? Yeah. Like, we, Tommy knows this. We have us, like, they give us a room up there to hang out in families and go, watch the race and stuff.

like the spotters that aren't spotting, we're all sitting in there and we're laughing the whole race. Like we're laughing at these guys. You know what I mean? That's, and like you said, it's embarrassing. Like it's, it's, I get it. Do you want to let them go out there? Go ahead.

Go out there. Take your call, fine laps. Go run five laps of the race. If you're not fucking within three seconds of the leader, get off of the racetrack. Like, just like it's not safe. Whatever, I'm saying, that I mean, that's where they were. I mean, it was worse than that.

Yeah, the guy that was saying. There was one guy that was like seven seconds off the page. You don't belong out there. It's not for everybody. Sorry. Like, it's just the way it is. Period. Oh, well.

Yeah, clock. Yeah, you did it. You did it. It's time to read it. It is time for reaction theater where fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race. I'm interested to see what they had to say this weekend. It was pretty quiet, not much going on. So I'm wondering.

So on a weekly basis, we get about 150 calls. Do you guys want to guess how many we got this week? 300. 770. Freddie? 250. Ryan Priest is our winner. We had 743 calls.

Shut up. 743. Boy, you must have had a whole time from listening to all those yesterday. Oh, my God. I think I read about 600 transcripts and I probably listened to about 300 of them. I think in order to be fair with the fame. Just play them all? Well, I think we just leave.

I think what you need to do is just break down another good 15 to 20 and let's play them during the week for everybody. We could try and do something like that. Let's do something different here with that. I will say about 500 of them were people going, I can't find my toaster. And the other half were calling Blaney said that they had a two-piece and a biscuit for them. So anyway, thank you guys for calling in.

But a lot of them were about the same. Yeah, exactly. All right, here we go. I don't know what was worse. the tire that Goodyear brought to that race or Ryan Priest's facial hair. What's her? I got those days. You still can't grow any, can you?

No. Babyface. It's probably four days right here. Got on. Four days. Good one. Yeah, real nice. Yeah, downloaded NASCAR 26 over the weekend.

Playing the career mode made the mistake of making Freddie, my spotter. I think it's really ironic that last week he wanted to defend Emerson, you know, sticking at four wide, calls an erect. This dude clears me at Daytona. I calls a wreck. And then he talks shit about me on the fucking podcast. You can't make this shit up. Shout out. Get your copy on NASCAR 26. I didn't think about that part, though, that you're, it's like, since you're spotting in it and our shows in the career mode, like, you really could, like, get somebody into a mess and then talk about them.

That's awesome. Your show's in career mode in that game? Yeah. No, no way. That's so funny. The guy, like, you clear him and cause him a wreck, and then you're like, that guy's a new spotter. What's he doing? That guy is a new spotter. Oh, you said that at Gateway, too. You know, Planey fan, host of our fan, whatever sides are on. I'm glad everybody at Bristol could agree on at one thing.

We all hate Joey Lagano. I heard, so we haul ass down to the car. and like so I don't we don't see any post-raised stuff so we I'm like going down the hill back there to the TV lot and uh I hear booing and I'm like oh joey must have just got out you know he probably did something and then as I'm getting in my car I hear the fucking place go nuts and I'm like oh somebody's fighting and I thought it was like tie and hosomar and I was like oh boy and then we got the car and Meg's like I think Blaney just got punched in the face I was like oh shit I think it's some serious bull shizzle what that plot waffle hosa pussy pulled on blaney guy swing me twice and then his two crew guys tackle Blaney before Blaney can go Huna McFuck it on that old poser. Crew guys, let him fight jumping in like that bitch-tastic.

Carson wants to act all tough but can't hold seniors jockstrap. All host of our is is a shit sprinkler. Go 12. Shit sprinkler. Those are some of the most spirited choices of words that I've never heard in my life. They were all wrong.

That dude was talking in a different language. Yeah, he was in space. Where do you think he was from? Wisconsin. Wisconsin. It's got to be somewhere over there. It's what it sounded like. Yeah, he had a totally different view.

Minnesota, Wisconsin. I see. The one guy in a teal shirt works for NASCAR, right? The first guy in there is the NASCAR guy. And then, yeah, I would, I agree. I would rather see the crew guys just. Go away. Let them go to the ground.

And then when they get to the ground, you can break them out. But it's like a hockey fight. I mean, I thought they really emphasized NASCAR did of letting the security handle it. Right? I mean, and the whole goal was for let him juke it out a little bit, then separate them. So, I don't know. I think it's, yeah, let him. Let him fight. You want to fight, Ryan?

Do you want somebody to jump in there and break him? I can't see you punching anybody. Yeah, it'd be like Ryan. You didn't have a sister, do you? No. Yeah. You had two brothers. You guys fight?

I can't tell you. When we were younger. So Ryan's brother, man. So you haven't fought in how many years? A while. Yeah, don't, don't fight. I won't. Ryan's brother Matt, if nobody's ever seen it before, looks just like Ryan.

Like exactly like Ryan. You're going to tell the new Smirner story. Oh, no, no, no. New Smirner story is something else. But I was going to tell Dover. So we're sitting in Dover. And Matt walks in, head to toe, fucking RFK, everything looks just like Ryan. We're sitting in the bar drinking.

And I just notice everybody's like staring at us. And I'm like, everybody here thinks Ryan Priest is getting shitfaced at the are right now and it's not even Yeah, I had to tell him he had He's proud, right? He's a proud brother and told him, do me a favor, just wear like something else. Because it is, I mean,

if you don't know that I have an old, you know, I have two older brothers, Sean and Matt and if you've ever met Matt and you didn't, like, you were just a fan and you saw him, you'd think he was me. Yeah. Like, we're that close. So we have finally figured out what Ryan Blaney

does with the toaster. He doesn't take a out with it, he uses it to make a knuckle sandwich, but little did he know was going to be the one eating the knuckle sandwich. Go nine. Woo! Go nine. And he struggled all night, huh?

Yeah, they're very good. I'll give Ryan credit. He did at least come back. You know, he took two punches. And it's always easy to come back when you go in people in the middle. The little sneak through is funny as. When you got in the middle, it's always easy to come back and know you're not going to get. He got in there.

He got in there to be held back. He wasn't. No, he was. No, he was. He literally charged. out him like underneath the people and fast as he did. Let's talk about your fights back in the day.

Tommy never had any. He never had a name. He never fought. Remember when you tripped going into a fight? I wasn't fighting. Cue the Stafford clip with him the last fucking fight I was in. With Tommy. I said the last fight I was in was with Tommy. Like fucking Riverhead we had a

40 on 40 brawl with the Fortins. I'm thinking kind of a NASCAR rom-com where Natalie Decker and Patrick Sarpoli both crash into the same wall and fall in love. I mean, know what Disney thinks. I think my favorite line of anything from the weekend was Parker Cligerman on that broadcast,

but he just said, it's down into the right. She had an explanation yesterday. The clutch was slipping or something. I don't know, whatever. She couldn't get it in reverse after she was. I don't pay attention. Move on. Next.

Speaking of, don't be out there. Last one, and this guy was really excited to watch cars go around. You know, I can't be the only motherfucker that gets a rock

hard on just to see a bunch of grown-ass men going circles around the fucking track. Let's go, baby. Go 12. You might be

the only one. Honestly, actually, now that I think about it. I hope you're the only one. I don't want to. It's, it's... We have some fan, good fans. We have great fans, man. Exciting fans. They're excited. It sounds like they're, they're pumped up to watch these races. Come on, guys. You got to spice it up. You can only say you drop the toaster in the bathtub so many times. Yeah, that's only funny in a couple different forms.

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Whoa. Is that a quarter midget? Yeah. This clip is, holy shit. That's wild. Is there people Santa back there? Everybody was okay and they ended up finishing the race. That car did?

Yeah. Nice. Wow. Good work. Get it back out there. Imagine just having a, you know, 300 pound missile coming at you. Just on the other side of that fence.

Yeah. This is a hell of a wreck. The cars to our West Race. Oh. Yikes. That's tough. Will you flip a late ball over? Is that?

Are they at Winachie Valley? Yeah. Yeah. Who's the, do you have any idea who these people are? I don't have been. 32 is upside out. Yeah.

Being a modified guy and just like in, you know, Our body panels and our fars and everything are so easy to change. Oh, yeah. I cringe watching this. Somebody that has to hang that body now. Good luck. Is that guy in a 32 okay? Yeah, everybody was okay.

He got drive aside hard. Watch this. Watch him come in. Boom. That's what flipped him. Yeah. That was crazy. All right.

And the big crash at Lucas Oil. This got hurt already. Oh. Oh. Those sudden stops are what always scares me with these things. And cage first. Yeah. Oh.

I hate that. I hate that. He was okay. Look at those people. They were like, oh. Who was it? Dean Bowers, I think. Dean Bowers.

But they said that he was okay after this. Same thing. Just jumped in the building. God, I don't like that. Look at that guy in his tank top. He was like, oh. That literally makes me like. Carson, how many times do you done that?

Maybe not Cage first. Yeah. You've done some flipping. I've had a few. Like up until he hit the wall that looked like me going down the front stretch of Arizona. Yikes. Oh, I did want to give a shout out. My shit show, I had a neat weekend winters on shit show.

Did you see the guy running on three wheels at Fonda? Oh, yeah. The guy left front, can you pull that up? Yeah, I think he ended up having it faded. But he was running third in the Underdog 33, I think is like the prelim night for the Fonda 200. And my man is just hauling ass with no left front tire in a modified. I was like, this is pretty impressive. Have you seen the video that was circulating over the weekend?

His name is Darwin Green if it's easier to look it up that way. Where people are trying to drive like four bangers onto the back of like an open trailer that's driving around a racetrack. Yeah, here it is. Look at it. No one. He's got nuts. That's cool.

He's around the third. That is the definition of leave the left front of home. Don't even need it. That's crazy. Oh, that's sick. That's funny. If he could just figure out how to get it to set and turn better, it would be good.

There we go. He gets through three and four a little better than one and two. That's fun to watch. Do you know how bad it would piss me off if I was the guy in second? I can't get around this fucking guy and he's got one less tire than me. What would your dad say? That fucking guy had three wheels, Ryan. You couldn't get by him?

What is wrong with you? Yeah, there's a lot of things he would say. Oh, gosh. And that was nice. That was very nice. That was a PG version of it. Yeah. If you find a shit show out in the wild or on flow, make sure to tag us and send it our way on social so we can laugh along with you.

Time to move on to AskDBC, where we ask the questions you've all been wanting to know. And Tommy wanted to know this one earlier as well. What did you say to Carson Hosevar on Pit Road when you and Josh were like hitting him with the blah, blah, blah. Josh hit him with that. I think I said, do you think your car insurance knows what you do for a living? That's it. That's all. I just, I laughed.

I really laughed at Josh. That was funny. That was just, that Josh, my very part about it was Carson walks around. He's hyping the crown up. He's flipping Blaney off. Looks like an idiot.

And then Josh starts doing the same thing. Josh's like, yeah, you're mocking him. And I was like, oh, this is hysterical. I love when Josh gets spicy. Josh is,

He's super funny. He's so funny. He's hilarious. And like when he eventually, like when he decides to get a little like that yesterday, I'm like, I love it. Oh, him at my shop after Daytona, he did just one beer after another. And the next thing I know it, I mean, we're both kind of looking at each other like at eight or nine o'clock. And like, boy, this party needs to shut down here. Can you give the listeners a tutorial on how to do a burnout?

Don't do what I did at Daytona, where I started it in first and tried to grab second. and couldn't get it there. But yeah, just put it in second gear and let it rip. That's it. It's easy as that. What do you think? You tell me. I don't know.

I never done a burnout. Well, you tell us how to drive race cars all the time. I figured you know how to tell me how to do a burnout. I don't know. I don't know how to fucking do a burnout. I don't win races. I didn't say I was good at it.

I just said I ran. I drove them. I want to know more about like the die cast collections that you're getting from fans and stuff and like what that's been like and everything. Yeah, so I don't know. When I won Iowa back in 17, you know, there was an opportunity to get a diecast made. So I remember I had to buy like, I think, 200 of them. Yeah, you had to buy a lot.

I had to buy a lot. It's like $2,500 or something for the minimums. Yeah. Yep. So I had to buy a lot of them. And I just remember going through it. And I was like, oh, what's this, you know, back number? And then I found out they call that the DIN number, which is the number it was produced

during the process of when they're doing it. And then I found out that it's valuable to get number one. and then whatever number it is that matches the door number. So ever since then, I kind of, you know, I sell a lot of my own stuff on my website. So I sell, you know, cars on there. And I try to look for that door number. And I put it out there this year that, you know,

anybody that has a door number, you know, I'll trade you something. I have a lot of stuff. Like I get, I get things as a race car driver that, you know, fans can't get, right? Like, we all know, we all get stuff. And so I try to trade them something that, that to me is memorable

and something you can't buy. So this past weekend, I don't know, a few of them thought it was weird, but I have, you know, from the Daytona 23 wreck, you know,

I have a steering wheel that's mangled in like a pretzel, right, from that wreck. I had a cool shirt that, you know, if I pulled up a picture from when I was in the hospital that night, you know,

that them, you know, I had it on. And so I gave them this. I bought them shirts. I gave them a, hat to trade them for this diecast. So between that, I've given out fire suits at North Wilkesboro.

I gave, I forgot which car it was, but I gave one of the guys, the Wonderbread suit that I wore at Taldaiga. Yeah, so I try to do different things. That's cool. I don't know, things you can't buy. What's it like driving your duly around town? I'm not driving it today. I got my 150.

I noticed it wasn't out there. Yeah. You get any funny looks. Well, now I get people coming up to me like, hey, I saw you here. And it's just like, okay, maybe I need to take this thing. Yeah. A little loud.

That's why I drive around on nothing, no decals on my vehicles. That's why. Yeah, that's why. There's a reason. But I don't know. Chris, we, he thought it was going to be, you know, something that wasn't going to be. I wouldn't like it. But I've been ripping it for the past, what, three months?

It's not a big deal. You have a daughter, so it doesn't matter. Exactly. My daughter loves it. Yeah. I'm like number one dad. She runs up to that thing. We got a funny episode coming out with social too.

We've done a few things since we've shown it. It's gotten a little bit of a lift and some different wheels and tires. Oh, no. We got, yeah. Pimp my ride. Pit my ride. Pit my ride. Pit my ride.

Pimp my ride is what sounds like is happening. All right, guys. Don't forget to leave us questions on social media using the hashtag AskDBC to have a chance to get yours asked on the show. Where are we? Kansas. I will take Bubba. Good pick.

Priest pick. You pick yourself if you want. I know my strengths. I'm not in denial. I will say. I'll try to run good. We'll try to win. What are your upcoming strengths on this list, though,

so I can pick you at one of the rest of them? Probably Martinsville. Okay. Or Dega. I'm going to go with C-Bell. I got Bubba. I already picked it. Oh, where was I?

You're sitting there not paying attention. Like usual. Brisco. I'll go with... You shouldn't be able to pick a Toyota, apparently, because three of them have been picked. Why not? I'll take Denny. That's while we're at it.

This should be a good, a good week of... It could really be probably most of us, except maybe Tommy. All right, y'all, it is time for our weekend winner's segment. and like we've been doing for the past handful of weeks, we've been having a winner from local short track race. Well, not even local, just all kinds of short track racing all over the place going on. So we have Stuart Freezing, Fonda 200 winner. Welcome to Door Bumper Clear.

Thanks for having me on. Hey, buddy. This race, I know, is probably one that you have to circle just about every year. What does it mean to win this race for you guys? This is tough. Yeah, this is a big one. Fonda Speedways are, you know, local dirt track up here. When we're not truck racing, we try to be there as much as we can.

And this is the biggest race of the year. So 200s are very, very challenging to win, very grueling races for our dirt modifies. And yeah, we had a great car, some good strategy. And we're able to, you know, stay up front and clean air and pull it off. What is this? What's the strategy look like? How many times you got a pit in a 200 lap or with a dirt with a big block? So this one is a controlled stop, kind of a halfway break.

But they give you an option. So if you go to the hot pit, which is outside turns three and four, you can have basically 10 minutes to do whatever, change tires, change shocks, put fuel in. If you elect to go to the infield, you can just do fuel only. But the kind of the mix is if you pit before lap 100, you could just pit under a yellow and take your fuel, or I'm sorry, take tires and then go to the infield and jump all the people that go to the hot pit. So that's what we did. The caution came out on like lap 77. We were a little bit prepared for it and came in and took a right front and a set of rears. And then kind of nursed it, you know, like Matt Hirschman style for a few laps.

And Old Mainfield got our fuel and restarted second and were able to get control and leave the last in our laps. Good weekend overall for you. I was in a truck race. I think went really well. I was, you know, practice. It looked like maybe a little bit of a struggle there. but then like once you got, felt like once you got track position,

like you guys were able to maintain the rest of the race. Yeah, practice was tough. We had some break issues. We had to bleed brakes twice during practice. Not sure if we ever really resolved that. Just had a long pedal, had to double pump it a little bit. So not sure if we had just a loose hub or some,

for some reason we were getting some, you know, some pad knockback. But in the race, it was a little bit easier to deal with. And qualifying got canceled halfway through, which was the benefit. I got to go off the metric and restart fifth or start the race fifth. Came in and took four tires for a segment and then came in again for rights only and kept track position and some clean air.

And yeah, had a really good run. Got to lead some laps, which was really, really awesome. But then we just got a little bit too tight as a fuel burned off there in the last stage and held on for a third. But definitely a good night for us. Yeah. I have to ask, who's it worse to lose? to Shepard or Jess? Definitely.

Definitely Shepard. That's a good one. Like, if I lose to Jess, we're on the same team, right? So we both, we both pay envelopes come back to the same team. So that's not really a loss. But when we lose to anybody else,

that pay envelope goes out the window. So when Jess beat us the other week, that was a really, really good run and a really big night for the team. But yeah, Shepard, that one stings, Freddie. What is it like being out there? Like, Jess is a badass race car driver.

And you guys go at it. You know, there's no like, you don't cut either one of these, cut anybody a break there. I've watched numerous races where you guys are side-by-side, multiple laps. Like, what's that like being out there racing against your wife? Do you have to tiptoe so you don't have to sleep on the couch? Like, what?

I think this is why he's out in the car. Something's happening. He's having a car with headphones. Yeah, her car wasn't that great. Saturday night in the 200 so that's why I'm out here that's the thing I got to worry about more though it's not it's not you know

kind of hooby too it's like if her car's not right man shit runs downhill and it comes right to me like directly so if if her car's right and something happens and you know she doesn't have a great run it's okay but if the car's not right um you know here we are you guys got anything um the i did want to ask you obviously um really really bad wreck last year what

how difficult was it to get through that and then just have the mindset to get back in a race car after something like that happens yeah it was it was tough um i had a lot of support obviously jess being number one um the other side of that sword was she you know was a superhero when i was banged up you know took good care of me made sure i got to doctor's appointments made sure I was doing my physical therapy, which was key. I think I started that about this time last year and then went all the way through the winter. So that was key, you know, getting back into racing shape. And yeah, it was, it was tough.

I think, you know, the anniversary of the wreck this year, you know, going up to Quebec and racing again, that kind of hit me a little harder than I thought it was going to because, you know, I'm like, oh, man, there's a whole other, you know, a whole other month left of summer and two months left to race in that that I'm going to get to participate in that I kind of missed out on last year. So we're in kind of bonus time right now, and it's been good. But it's all behind us, healed up as best as I can be, and we're rocking and rolling. Aside from the truck schedule, what do you got left? I know Super Dirt Week's got to be coming up soon.

What else you got left on the dirt side? Yeah, next weekend we just have Kansas with the truck. After that, we have the Fulton 200, which is an open weekend for the trucks. That's a big one, modified race. of Super Dirt Week. We'll go back and forth between Oswego and Charlotte for the truck race Friday. But, you know, as long as there's no weather interference, we should be able to qualify the modified on Thursday, fly to Charlotte, and then fly back up Saturday morning for the big one up there, which is 54,000 to win, I think it is this year. So that's a big one. And then kind of do the same

with the Eastern States 200 down in the middle town the following week. How's my buddy Parker doing? He is good. He's good. He's picked up a little bit of golf. this summer. He did a couple golf camps and we've been hitting balls. So he's going that route rather than racing right now, which is a okay. Can we tell

the story about what he wanted to combine a couple weeks ago? Do you remember this? He text me? Strippers and racing. Yeah. He doesn't like the on-track racing experience that much, but he is

all about the social activities that might happen in and around motorsports, speed weeks, being one of them. He has a good time. The social ends right up his alley. Fred,

I'm leaning on you a little bit more experiences as you can go on you. Oh, man. Hey, man, thank you for jumping on here with us. Congratulations again. I know that's a big one for you guys. Good luck the rest of the way. I hope you don't want any more

truck races because I'd like to win the rest of them. So, but good luck this year. We've been one one yet this year. We haven't even won one. We finished third and everybody's all excited. It's like, good. Just don't win it. We had our meeting this morning and it was like easy boys. Like we didn't get the checkered flag. We just got a podium here. So we got to keep digging.

All right, man, I'll see you. I guess we'll see you out in Kansas. Good luck this weekend. Thanks for jumping on. Yeah, thanks for having us. Great job with the show. It's always always fun to watch and awesome to be a part of. Thanks. I appreciate it, Bob. All right. Shout out Stuie for joining us today for kicking off our weekend winner's segment. And I know Freddie doesn't have much of a voice,

so I don't know how many he has to read, but for sure we'll have the scroll and all those fun things. It's right here. It's right here, happening on your screen right now. Freddy, take it away. Do you have any, Tommy,

what did you see this weekend? Modified racing all over the place. Who won Orange County? Caden Lapsovich. Kicked her butt, man. Clark was badass from the beginning. I turned it on right as Lofton and Bone Wrecked. Is that West Salmon's car?

Wesley Simon, I think. I did somebody, I'll give you a weekend winner. This is very nice. Somebody finally had something nice to say about you, so I'll tell you. Mike Robertson said that they would not have been able to race that day if it wasn't for you. Like I must you want to one over there. And he said, Tommy said, in very Tommy fashion,

he sent me a picture of you working on a car. And I said, what a guy. And he said, yeah, he told us he'd fix it if we just get the fuck out of his way. I mean, well, they, well, yeah, that's the only part of the story. He's like, well, we're not going to be able to make it. I'm like, if you get the fuck out of it away, you'll be able to make it. Just let me fix it. Yeah.

That's like a nice way of time. You've been like, yeah, I'll fix it for you. Yeah. And I shouldn't have. Oh, God, did they get into it? Because, well, I told Chase I was going to make him part of the shit show a week because that card I came in 12 seconds after the 15. Well, that was him.

I'm like, well, if I didn't, I probably cost the guy another $15,000. Because if I didn't fix it after he wrecked the practice. He wasn't a pile into that. Oh, man. He asked for the list of parts today. He also had to borrow all the parts from me, too. Hey, that's all that is. It was fun.

It's all good news. What a guy. You love doing that. Patrick Ramaling won the Riverhead Tour race, Ryan. That's the one. That's the race. That place looks so different now with the, with the wall. With the wall.

Yeah. It makes it look big. Yeah. It's, that race is always fun. Like that 200 lap, I mean, we've dualed there with Jimmy and you or Jimmy, whoever. But, Nothing better than winning a Riverhead Tour race. Justin Sanders,

last corner pass to win the World Outlaw race the other night on... Poor Emerson. Right? It was Emerson. $83,000. Decent payday. Wow.

Tanner Thorson won the Jesse Hockett and Daniel McMillan Memorial at Lucas Oil. Sunshine finally remembered how to win a race. That was good to see. KTJ won the Hobstot Hustler for the sixth time. Caden Labs, which you mentioned. I had Darwin Green here as a weekend winner

for running around with three wheels. And two kids, Lyle Seitz. won his first race the other night at Millbridge and then Landon Salamito wrapped up. And the championship at like ninth one of the year, something like that. Shout out to them and then obviously we'll have the scroll

of all the winners here. But yeah, do you see anybody, any wins that stood out to you this week? Oh, Rye, Rai? That one. I honestly, I wasn't able to pay attention to a lot. I mean, did Stafford even race? They were off this week. And I was going to say it didn't pop up my timeline.

But yeah, no, I saw Patrick won. I saw that Justin had finished third, so our group chat was lit up yesterday on that one. He's got like three or four different group chats. We got a few. Tommy went off on Justin on here a couple weeks ago. It was pretty funny. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

When he wiped everybody out of Stafford on the first lap. They still bring their trucks over to the shop to get worked on? Yeah, he put me in timeout for a week. But then he couldn't find no one else to fix his shit, so he had to bring it back. Then I charge him extra 10%. So I got him. I needed my tires paid. What are you doing this weekend?

Grace, where are we? I don't know. I'm in Kansas. I'm off completely this weekend. My mom's coming in town today for the week. Really? Come to see the great grandbaby. Great grandkids.

I'm going to hang out with mom and work. Carson. This weekend, I think I worked the JARM retail store on Saturday. And then I'm going to Martinsville. Boy, what an exciting day. Yeah. Bardsville is always a fun. That's going to be a fun.

I just seen 87. That'll probably be the weekend winter next week. Whoever that race will probably be on the show next week. Unless it's like Connor Hall or something. Yeah, yeah. Somebody we don't want to talk to it. Kind of what happened with the modified race. Right.

You do it. Obviously, I know what you're doing this weekend, but you got any short track stuff? Are you going to run derby? You're going to run any modified races? You don't know. I was actually changing an air hose reel up on,

up in my shop this morning before I came here. And I was looking down as I'm on the ladder. and I'm like right above the late model. I'm like... Brand new. It basically is. Brand new. One race.

Yeah. It has one. It has... How many bodies is it have? Two? Yeah. I have the other bodies sitting out back.

No, you didn't even race it. You could trade that for some more die-calf. Hold on. You didn't race. You just tested it. No, I raced it at New Smyrna. Finish six. Oh, that's right.

Don't take that from me. Yeah. Honestly, I like, I'm so conflicted. I was talking to Heather about it last night. I'm like, I really want to go do this race. But the season ends a week later. and there's a whole bunch of stuff we have to do the week after

and then it's like if I'm going to go run this race like when I do something I'm going to do it 110%. So it's like I want to spend testing. I want to do all the testing because all these guys they race all year so they're testing all the time essentially right. You're talking about the snowball. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about going to do the snowball

but right now I just I don't see a world where I can commit to going to it and not have something like if it rains out and moves the Monday it's like, I'm not doing what I did last year. So that puts up like... What if theoretically speaking, there was, is a pro or super? It's a super.

Oh, then never mind. I was going to say, theoretically speaking. What if there was a pro race that was happening before that one and you could come get some reps in there. Yeah. I just want to, yeah, I don't know. I mean, the other thing is I like racing with my father. Like, I like racing with my friends.

I don't hire people to go do all this stuff. You want to go do it just for the sake of going to do it. No. I do it. it's a good time. So like when I go to Speed Weeks for the modified or running the super, it's like, so right now the thing that I have is like I have a race car. That's probably worth when I built it, the bills to pay it and no labor was like,

I want to say it was 130,000. You know, if I added up every receipt to build that race car, like I have 130 grand less depreciated, but like it's sitting there. Yeah. And I just, I don't know. That and, you know, the way things develop, something new is going to come out. That's why you always used to bust, you know, give me crap that I'd build a car every year.

And then I'd sell it at the end of the year. It's like, yeah, because you want to keep up with everything that's changing. And right now I've had a car that I've run once with two bodies. With two bodies. And everything's absolutely. It's just sitting there. So I don't know. Before we get out of here, I think people watching would be upset with us.

If we didn't talk a little bit about Eddie Partridge, I don't think I know I'm not sitting here without Eddie. You're probably in the same boat. Like just what, I mean, what do you mean? what do he mean to your career coming into the time he did and all the help he gave you? Yeah, I mean, without Eddie,

without Eric Sanderson, but Eddie, without a lot of people, but Eddie specifically, you know, when people hear the story about mortgaging your house, I borrowed money.

And one of those people, it was two people. One of those people was Eddie and Connie. And, yeah, I mean, he made it to where he loved racing. I moved back

from North Carolina to Connecticut, because he called me and said, hey, I know you don't want to run 15th or 20th. I know you want to win. I want to win. I'll pay you to work on these cars. You could still be a driver earn your percentage, but you're going to, you maintain them. We're going to go racing. And I remember he was like, hey, let's go do the Chili Bowl. Hey, let's go do this. The whole reason I ended up building a late model four years ago was because Eddie said, he had, you know, he had a lot of free time. And he was like, hey, let's go to the snowball derby. So I started building this race car for that.

So we had a lot of fun. There's, yeah, great time. It's, it was impossible not to have fun racing with Eddie Partridge. Like it was like when you say a lot of free time, that he's just,

he was, he enjoyed everything. He loved racing. He loved the people around him. He just made everything fun. And we certainly miss them. Yeah, I loved whenever,

you know, I'd call or he'd call. I'd be like, yo. Yo! We used to follow him around the casino, know, me and Jimmy, so I spot it for Jimmy. I spot him for Ryan a little bit.

I love this story. We used to follow him around the casino. And every time, it didn't matter if he won a dollar, a thousand dollars. Anytime a bell went off, me and Jimmy would just be saying behind him, big money. And he's like, you two shut the fuck up, please. But yeah, he was awesome. All right, we're, we back next week. I don't, we're, Kansas, do we confirm that guess?

Can I, can I talk about it? Should I wait, don't? I would, maybe, maybe let's hint at it. somebody that we're going to have another Hall of Famer on next week. Is that good? Is that good enough? I think that.

First appearance Hall of Famer next year. If it makes y'all feel better, I don't even know who it is. That's how good of a secret we are. That's how much I don't read the group chat on Sunday nights. Yeah. We'll be back next week after Kansas.

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