Door Bumper Clear - Randy LaJoie: Life-Saving Seats, Cleetus, and the Car He Still Hates

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

It’s Door Bumper Clear’s 400th episode! So, we had to go big with our guest, and there’s no one bigger than Randy LaJoie, a.k.a. “Big Rand.” He joins DBC to talk about Phoenix, his racing se...ats, and the crazy stories from his racing past. To open the show, Randy takes us down memory lane with stories about racing Dale Earnhardt, the race car he still hates, and how he got into making life-saving seats. Then the gang dives into the race in Phoenix, where horsepower, tire pressure, and Ryan Blaney’s comeback became some of the biggest storylines of the day. In Spot On, Spot Off, the topics they tee off on include: • A crew chief’s aggressive tire pressure play after Stage 1 • Ty Gibbs’ post-race comments about being with “the right guys” • Cleetus McFarland’s breaking O’Reilly Auto Parts Series news • The reality of Chase Briscoe making the playoffs from 32nd in points We then hear from you guys in Reaction Theatre, where the toasters were put away, and the race fans were out to play. S*** Show Hall of Fame didn’t disappoint, with Oscar Piastri, Dirt Crown Vics, and an unfortunate cameraman leading the way among the nominees. To wrap up the show, Randy LaJoie tells the insane story of his scary Daytona flip and shares his best Buckshot Jones memories. After that, the crew makes their picks for Vegas and shouts out their Weekend Winners. Here’s to another 400 episodes. Thank you for all the listens! Don't forget to check out the merch at shop.dirtymomedia.com! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Carson Hosevar do an indie car Are you crazy? His head will stick way out. Forget about that. Imagine him. He'll be the only guy. Tires everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:12 They'll have to put two sets of tires on for him. He'll have them all knocked on. He'll be the only guy. He'll look like, I forget what the cartoon. It was, but the guy like his head will be out over the... I'm not even talking about that.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I'm talking about his driving stipe. Oh, you are? The following is a production of Dirty Moe Media. What if we left all the spotters out of everything? That's a terrible idea. You know what Steve? What page are we on? Why you cursed that?
Starting point is 00:00:38 This is why I'm just you cursing to me. I think he's a whiny. That's what I think. Next thing you know, I got no fire suit on. Grouty nation fans are getting lucky tonight. Well, I don't know exactly how we got here, but today is the 400th episode of Door Bumper Clear. Let's have a party.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Yeah, that's why we brought you. Listen, obviously, got to give a shout out to TJ and Brett. They started this thing. I don't even know how many years ago it was. Obviously, things have changed over a couple of years. We had Casey in here for a long time. We had Kristen, old Kristen Mingle, Kristen Bauer was in here for a while hosting. All the producers, Shultz, Tim's, Curlin, Jay.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Now, we've got Dalton back there. I'm sure I'm leaving some out, Josh, back in the day. They're all in a better place. They're all in a better place. And you may. And we're still here. We're still here digging and I'm having more fun than ever on this deal. So shout out to you guys for listening for all these episodes.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And we're going to keep cranking them out as long as you guys keep listening. So we're going to have some fun. All right. I don't even know how to open the show now, but I guess we'll roll into it. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway, speaking of fun, I am still Freddie Craft. I still spot for Bubba somehow.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Bubba, Dean Thompson this week. No, Gio. He was off. Tommy, how are you today? I'm doing good. A little tired? What time did you get back? Four o'clock.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Damn. Four o'clock. What the hell would you guys do? Our plane decided they were going to do a charter flight in between. Yeah, so when we got done, it was just leaving Oakland, California, and it had to go to Vegas and then to Goodyear. So we were the last plane to leave. I would say so. Carson, how are you today?
Starting point is 00:02:24 I'm great. I'm great. I had no cars for racing this weekend, so I feel rejuvenated on this Monday morning. Did you go race? Did you, were you with, did I see you with Wyatt? Were you racing with Wyatt somewhere? Kennedy, Wyatt ran the Southern National Speed Week all last week after Cars Tour was there. And Kennedy went down there. I did not go. Oh, God. She, I mean, she didn't punch nobody. No, no, nope, no, no scuffles in victory. Everything was, everything was all good. Joining us this week, I don't even know how to introduce this, man. He does need, really doesn't need an introduction.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But Randy LaJoy, welcome to door bumper clear, sir. How are you? This is an honor to be here. I've watched and listened to you guys forever. it's cool to be sitting here with you guys. Yeah. We'll see if you say that after the next hour and a half. I don't know who's, I don't know who, like, just like every time I run into Randy, it's usually at a short track somewhere or dirt track. But, you know, we've always talked about this.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Like, we need to get in there and do this. I used to live right next door and everyone over there. He used to get mad to me about that all the time. Field, fill of fair, ground days. But how's things? I mean, one thing, I mean, we'll talk about it now. How's things going? Obviously, you're about a little bit right now.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah, I got some prostate cancer. They told him about a year ago. and I feel the same as I did when I went and got diagnosed and they figured out what they're going to do to fight it and get rid of it. You know, they said it's a hormone-based aggressive cancer that is my body produces too much testosterone. Who would have ever thought? I could have told them that 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:03:54 30 years ago. So now I'm getting hot flashes here. I am sweating. It's hot in here, though. It is always hot. But, you know, the meds are doing their job. I'm on radiation. I got another 15 or 20 radiations to do.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You know, that doesn't, it's not like drinking a Red Bull. It doesn't give you energy. But to rejuvenate, you know, I got three grandkids and another one supposed to be coming out here any minute. Literally. Yeah, another miracle coming out. Yeah. So they are keeping me around because I don't want to. go nowhere because I'm having such a good time with these grandkids. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Talk about, you know, your family history in the sport. I mean, I know it dates back to your dad. Maybe even before that, I know your dad is the first person I remember. But just talk about, you know, the lineage of the LaJoy family in the sport. Yeah, my dad started, you know, up in Danbury, Connecticut, and that was a, I would say, a Bowman Gray of the North. Yeah. It was a closed club, 7,000 people a night. But the difference, I remember gray, and And Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, the driver there wins all the championship. Tim Brown, Tim Brown. I was talking to them in the pits when we were doing K&N race and practicing.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And I said, you know, Danbury, my dad made a lot of money. I said, because they race for 40% of the gate was the purse. Oh, gray, he, no, we ain't doing that. Yeah. And my dad would win a 25 lapar and come out, he were four or five grand. Yeah. Oh, a lapar. And he'd come out with five or six grand.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Like Randy said, Danbury, what was it, S Southern? Southern New York Racing Association, S-N-Y-R-A. You had to sign up. It was part of it. But I could not wait every week to get the racing paper because the Speedway scene was the only racetrack that was in color. And it was always in the center section of the paper because it was wrecks and flips and fights. Oh, my good. It was sections. I mean, like going to, you know, you got the.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You got the Tim Brown section. You got the Myers brothers. I mean, it was the same way at Danbury. You had the LaJoy section, the Stockwell section. Here's a funny store. We had the Stockwell session. You used to sit up behind us. Oh, check, 151 car.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Great guy. I mean, I learned so much from watching all these guys. Good and bad. You know, I mean, I had to get ready for buckshot. So I raised this guy named Wingnut. He was a wing nut. But that got me ready for Buckshot. But we had, we were down here
Starting point is 00:06:30 and me and a wife were down here and just had Corey. He's probably three years old. And somebody said, hey, we got somebody who can babysit for you. I said, yeah, send her over. You know, send her over. They said, you know, she's a family friend and this and that. Well, she used to sit up behind us in the Stockwell section. And my mom didn't like her.
Starting point is 00:06:50 My mom didn't like her. She had a name for her. I'd rather not say, but she had his name. Well, we're sitting there. We're ready to go out. Me and Lisa, and we're getting ready to go out. and the lady comes and open the door and here's this lady that used to MF my dad. I mean, and throw things at my mom, you know, and she's in a babysit Corey.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I says, oh, boy. So my wife's like, what's the matter? We're leaving. I'm not sure I want to leave the kid with her because she didn't like us. But it was a good night out. I was going to say, did it all turn out? Well, does everybody know Corey? That might have started the issues.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So then once Danbury closed, you know, on one hand, I'm glad it did. But what it did to that community up there, it heard it. You know, I mean, because there was guys from New York, Ridgefield, Connecticut, Norwalk, Danbury. I mean, all over. They had sections that pulled people in. Well, once that stopped, you know, we had to go to Stafford, New London, you know, Thompson. Well, it wasn't the same. And it was good for me because I got a ride when I was running New London.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I got a ride in a Bush North car. They were touring, and the promoter put me in one of those cars. And I would still be a Danbury if it was still open. Yeah. You know, I would have never left. So on one hand, I'm glad they shut it down because I wouldn't be able to do what I did because I still be there hanging out. And, you know, I still might drink a beer or two.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But that was just, it was. was cool to see growing up. You know, every other gas station in town always had a race car in it. Yeah. And that was fun to see. And that's gone. But, you know, and then I had a chance of Jimmy Spencer went cup racing. And Frank Sisi, I was down, went to Pocono.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And then Jimmy's like, hey, I'm going cup racing. You need to call Frank. And I'll put in a good word for you. He'll let you drive that 34 car. I said, okay. Put a good word for me in. And Frank calls, hey, come on down. You know, I got five cars and three motors.
Starting point is 00:08:55 and he had one car and one motor, but they were there, bits and pieces. And did Frank, I mean, first race run second, second race, run third? Never won with Frank in the 34 car. Damn it, I wanted to, but never did. But then somebody else bought the ride a couple of years later, and I said, okay, I can do this. I had a Ford deal. That went belly up. I got a couple of gaskets from them.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That was a little shy of motors and parts. We bought a couple of Moroso championship cars, turned them into Fords, and then we turned them into Buicks, worked out old Tiger Town Pistone shop. And, you know, it hasn't been easy. You know, I had it started a fab shop, and then family friend, Dick Moroso, my dad and him grew up together. He called me and said, hey, I need a driver for a handful of races. You want to do it? I said, absolutely. And run second to Big E at the Teladega, first time out.
Starting point is 00:09:54 and I thought he was cheating. We're going down the backstretch. Here I am. I'm just in high cotton. You know, I'm just, I'm racing with Senior. I'm running a second to him. And Schrader was right behind me. Shrader got in front of me, and we're gone.
Starting point is 00:10:09 We're looking at the mirror. There ain't nobody behind us. So we're cruising, and I look and I see seniors' fingertips out by his window net. I said, what the hell is he doing? So the next lap I look and his fingers are out and Schrader's fingers are out. and Schrader's fingers are out. And I was like, what the heck? These guys move in air?
Starting point is 00:10:27 What the hell are they doing? I said, oh, and here I am sweating my ganyoons off. I was like, oh, to get little, where? So the next damn straightaway, I put my hand out the darn window. I could have taken the gas cap on. Oh, my goodness. I said, what the heck did I do? I'd frigging hurt my shoulders.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I was like, okay, I'm not going to do that anymore. But that was cool. I ran second to him, and that was fun. and then went to Darlington run second to Mark Martin at Darlington. Which everyone did. Everybody did. I still look at a Win Dixie car. I still look at a Winnixie car, flip it off.
Starting point is 00:11:01 If I see a Win Dixie sticker, I flip it on. Aaron rocking him. Yes, correct. So, I mean, a Moroso deal was good. But, you know, like anything else, Dick, I've known him forever, because my dad and him grew up. And he was a different Dick Moroso after his son died. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Which, okay, I don't ever want to be in those shoes. And I hope I never have to be. But he was just a little different. And it was the end of the V6s, going to 9 to 1s, the V8s. And I think we only blew like 15 motors up. Is that all? Yeah, that's good. It happens.
Starting point is 00:11:41 You know, I was going to Michigan, leading Michigan, and the thing blew up, and I looked in the crankshaft, the front harmonic balancer was going by me. So this ain't good. It used to happen a lot with those. Yes. So one of the good things I did when Dick was going to put somebody a little bit more aggressive in the car, I called the Feina headquarters, the head hot choice. So listen, I said, you guys have been really good.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You guys do a great program. You bring in customers. You guys do it right. I said, don't get mad next year and quit. I said, because it ain't going to be pretty. What's going to happen to you guys? And it wasn't. I mean, and it wasn't pretty for me either.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I was going cup racing with Bill Davis, Bobby Labani. I called Bobby and want to know how things were. And if I was going to be okay there, he was, Randy, you need a job? I said, yeah, I do. He goes, you have one? He said, no. He goes, well, it's a job. Well, he didn't tell me it wasn't going to be a good one.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I said, okay, so we went cup racing, and that wasn't a whole lot of fun. And once we got done cup racing, I called Bill Bumgarner, because I filled in for Bumgarner when Johnny Benson was moving to cup. They needed a driver. And I run third at Orange County. And old man, Bumpgarden was so darn happy. He was hoarse. And he says, you know, I told you before the race that I was going to fire you after the race.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I said, yeah. I says, you don't have many straight parts on your car. He says, I can tell you one thing. You ever need a job, call me. So after I got fired about mid-season, I said, okay, now what am I going to do? So I called Bill. I said, well, first I call the lawyer. and he said, yeah, we'll get you paid, and I never, still waiting.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's coming. Too late. Yeah, yeah. So, which I'm lucky things have changed because Corey got paid last year. I would have never thought he was going to get paid because I had two or three contracts and I never got paid in any of them. But so obviously the sport has changed for the better there. And I called the boss man up at Fina.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I said, hey, listen, I got a chance to drive the cart. It's probably going to win the championship this year. Johnny's gone. Lippton T. is gone so they can have a we got a good package here and they agreed they said okay we'll do it and you know we had three or four great years there with fena and birdie and and that bunch of guys billy nazowitz i mean it was a a really good race team and it was it was fun to be a part of because when you're when you're in a race team like that the right hand knows what the left
Starting point is 00:14:12 hand's doing you come in the pits and you there's no you know uh everybody knew what what's going on There was no fire drills. There was nobody tripping over each other. So, you know, being part of a championship team was really, really cool. And got to do it for a couple years. And you really think you're never going to. Couple. Well, two championships, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And then the two kids come around named Kensive and Dale Jr. Yeah. And they changed things. They stepped it up a little bit. Yeah, they changed the series, that's for sure. And it was a lot of fun. And then I drove Harvick's car in 06, his second championship in the whatever the hell division. They call it now.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Bush Series. I drove his car nine times. And I drove another guy's car eight times. I had to use my champions provisional to get in the race with the other guy's car. And I never qualified worse than third in Harvick's car. And I was like, wow, this is crazy. The technology was coming in because that's the thing. That's what your brother brought in.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I mean, that's your uncle. But that's what they brought in was technology. And the guys that didn't have it, man, you're sucking wind. And so now when we didn't, the guy didn't understand the guy's car I drove, he said, how come you qualify good with that car and not this car? I said, really? Where do you want me to start? You know, and somebody had a pitcher going through the center or the corner.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And our front balance was, you know, when the cars were slammed on the earth, The front balance was three inches off. I said, I don't know how to get it down there. I was like, but I know if it's down there, it's a lot faster. And, you know, did Harvest Car nine times, practice, qualified it. He won six of them, run second in one, got wrecked in the other one. And it was a good time. And it was cool that no, I could still do it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. But I said, okay, times have changed. And I begged Richard, I went up after the year. And he said, come on up and took care of me. And he said, hey, the guys loved you. It was great. I said, Richard, you give me five races in that 21 car? Just five.
Starting point is 00:16:21 He said, why? Because I probably went all five of them. I said, that's a great team. I said, the only one that hasn't won in a 21 car is your son-in-law. So after that, you got involved in the safety seats. What made you want to do that? Well, 95, NASCAR coming to me and said, Randy, it was an old fiberglass, Mark Donahue seat that my dad bought from Mark Donahue in 71.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And so when I started, I started using that seat. He made it fit into the modified. So, okay, I said, okay, and I might have cracked a couple of them. So we would put a steel frame around them. Went to Daytona in 84 with a steel frame around the seat. And they were like, what are you doing here? They made me sign releases that I'll be okay. It's my seat.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You know, they didn't have the inspections they kind of had. And they're like, this thing looks like a bathtub. You know, I said, it's a comfortable bathtub, I says. And I done flipped everything I had at Daytona. And they said, as long as you want, you could run that seat, you know. And I had a steel frame around it. Well, 94, 95, they said, guys, we're not doing fiberglass no more.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I said, okay, now what? So I brought my seat in Concord. There was Richardson, and there was Butler, and Richardson was right next door to me. So when I was renting and went and talked to Steve, and then we built one, and it wasn't. as good as it could have been. Went to Butler's, and O'Brien says,
Starting point is 00:17:50 that thing's a piece of crap. I'll build your custom C. I was like, wait a second. I've been racing won a couple championships up north already. And I was like, golly. I said, I've driven in your seats, and they're not that comfortable. I said, well, okay, so I took the part and went down to carpenters
Starting point is 00:18:06 right next of the racetrack down there. And they do stampings because that's the only way you're going to get the round bottom out of a flat piece. And then the guy said, yeah, I can do that. He says, but you're not going to like the cost of the tooling. Yeah. So, okay, I met a guy through Carpenter that worked there, that knew a guy in Ohio, and he's been my saving grace because he was a racer,
Starting point is 00:18:28 had one of those marked down here seats in his Porsche. And he's like, okay, we can do this. And he built a fixture for me to hold the product so I could wall them together. We could size up at Jimmy Spencer down to a Mark Martin. And I said, okay, you know, everybody's going to buy this thing because it's more comfortable. And I was a little bit wrong because you have to convince them to spend money. So that got the ball rolling.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It was after the championship years that I said, okay, you know, I'm not going to be racing forever. So how can I help, you know, after senior past, you know, we haven't lost other than your dad, you know, a couple years later, you know, the industry hasn't lost anybody, which is, it's too bad that we had to lose senior, you know, because it was five guys before him. Same thing. Yeah. And your dad as good as he was, or your granddad, as good as he was, I mean, he changed racing to be safe.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And that needed to be done. Yep. You know, so that's a kudos to him, and he was quite the guy. I mean, I'm a Yankee from Connecticut, and he liked me. That was fun. And more so, even on the Cups, I don't know Tommy. you want to get this a little bit, but, you know, you've done a lot more, I feel like, for the short track side of things. Like the cup guys kind of all kind of converted in a certain way, but the short track guys were behind the eight ball, right?
Starting point is 00:19:53 I mean, it took them a while to catch up, I feel like it. Still. Yeah. You're still way behind. And that's, you know, in 01, 2002, the safety of NASCAR got ramped up. You know, okay, guys, we're going to be doing some seat testing. We're going to be doing this. We want this. We're going to go certified seats.
Starting point is 00:20:09 And I said, why? You know, and I didn't under just going through all the meetings and stuff. I was like, okay, you know, we could do this. Because I bent the seat and Tom Gideon and Dr. Melvin. They took one of my seats I built and they sled tested it. And they brought it back and I had a TV in the shop and we put the tape in and the dummy. I mean, the guy sitting in my seat. So it was either that dummy or me.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I mean, and they hit that thing at 45 mile an hour, 90 degrees. degrees and I my stomach turned I almost puked they're like what's the matter I said I'm I'm going to sick to my stomach I was I'm going to kill somebody and they said no no no you got a good one what do you see the other ones you know by being held by your shoulders and your hips it saved your body a lot but I said oh boy I'm going to have to make these things a lot stronger so that's when I went to the strong side and you know I got a scar on my knee I blew her right front out here at charlotte the old tire war wide open hit the fence a couple weeks later hopping around x-ray the guy's like look at this and it broke my kneecap but it was a 916th bolt
Starting point is 00:21:17 you can see the hex head on my kneecap i was like how and the heck did i do that went back to the car 14 inches away from my kneecap i hit a bolt and i was like how did i do that but and then you start sled testing and i started going to sled test and seeing how the bodies react and the belt stretch and the move, and we're trying to contain jello, you know, because we're body 60% fluid, and I was like, oh, my gosh. And I was like, okay. And I kind of took it as my vision, my passion, to teach short trackers. I'm just a race fan, you know, and nobody.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I said, okay, NASCAR 2011 went to certified seats. And I said to myself, now being out of race in a couple years, I said, okay, you know, short track guys will have a certification soon. within five years. It's 15 years later and they're still not using it. And it aggravates me. It hurts my heart because the industry knows a safer seat is better. And man, we were almost there.
Starting point is 00:22:23 All the dirt guys had it in the rulebook. 2025, you're going to have certified seats. And I just don't understand why. You know, I mean, I'm pushing the short track series, all the short track series to, they don't have the people that NASCAR have to look and inspect seats. So if they see a certified sticker, an SFI certified sticker on a seat, okay, it's a good seat.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And you could grab hold of that seat and try to move it. And if it don't move, it's mounted halfway decent. But golly, it's, they, they've stopped pushing for certified seats and it's. I think safety in general is just hard to pound into short track racers minds with everything. I mean, it's, we deal with it all the time, car stores. You don't want to spend the money on something to make them a little bit safer because if they got that extra change to spend, they're going to spend it to make their car faster.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah, well, races will sit in a five-a-pound bucket if they had to. Yeah. You know, I mean, I did a double header up in Oxford, Maine. It was a Bush North race driving a guy's car. Go up there, the guy says, hey, calls me like on a Wednesday. Hey, I fired my driver. You want to come drive my car at Oxford? I said, hell, yeah, I chased that sucker at Oxford.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I'm going to go drive that thing. Hall ass up to Maine, get there, get to the cars. Oh, boy, you know, the guy was driving 160 pounds. and I wasn't. And I was like, okay, how's this going to happen? So I practiced, opened the thing up. I practiced and it was a bad fast car. I said, oh, this thing's quick.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I said, but I can't drive this thing. The seat's got a kid seat in it. And luckily, the modifies were there. Jimmy Spencer's reigning modified champ. He's got two of them sitting there, one on the trail. So I went and seen Jimmy and his brother Eddie. I said, Eddie, I can take the seat out of your backup car and put it in this car? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Four bolts, boom, went and put it in. Finish second. Well, as we're doing pitchers, Eddie comes on the racetrack. Modified distilling the pits, warming up, ready to come out. Eddie says, come on, Randy, get your stuff. I said, get what stuff? I said, I take the seat out. He said, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Get your helmet and gloves. Okay. I grabbed the helmet and gloves. We were running across the racetrack. I said, what are we doing, Eddie? He says, you know, I entered you. 600 bucks to start. They didn't have enough cars.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So he's sitting there, the brand new car, brand new hutter motor, brand new tires. He throws me in the window. I get in. the belts on and I kind of get strapped in he's putting the window net up I said Eddie and cars are pulling on the racetrack I said it doesn't have a seat
Starting point is 00:24:42 he clicks the window net they ain't going to check oh my god it was just to start just to start apart yeah well after about five laps they threw the yellow because Eddie was on the racetrack I was still going so here I'm trying to sell seats and you know been to 180 race tracks now.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah. Slowed down a little bit since COVID. I think Tommy pretty much lit the fire under me to get going to these short tracks. He brought me up to Lenny Sammons' show, and we did a safety seminar up there after his dad passed. And it was a huge need to let these guys know because short trackers don't know what they don't know. And I would be at the R&D center testing seats. And you learn a lot. NASCAR is at R&D center is amazing what they can find out and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So being in their court and kind of hearing all this stuff, I said, how come nobody's taking this to the short tracks, whether it's a NASCAR home track or, you know, all across the country? Okay, I loaded up my trailer and, you know, started going. So, I mean, I would go, you know, Corey had told me this about three years ago. He goes, I ain't going to do what you're doing. You're working harder than you ever have, you know, going to all these short tracks. and, you know, and my wife would get mad at me because you go and you spend two grand
Starting point is 00:26:07 and you don't sell nothing. I said, all I'm doing is planting seeds. That's all I'm doing is planting seeds. You show them, and I've never seen something like this. This is nice. Oh, but it's $500 more. Oh, what the heck? Now guys are paying, you know, $1,500 for an insert.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Yeah. Well, I mean, at the end of the story, end of the deal, Randy, you have no idea how many lives you've saved. Yeah. And that's a good thing. Yeah, correct. Right? So everything that you've done for our sport,
Starting point is 00:26:35 we all are going to thank you for many, many years. Let's get going, man. Oh, I know one thing, one more thing. I know you got to deal with ASA. Talk about giving back to the races. You got a good deal going to the little short track program for these guys. Yeah, I don't have a lot of seats in the late model stock, late model, super late model division.
Starting point is 00:26:55 We should talk. Yeah. Oh, I know. That's next on my list is the car store. I've talked to Kip already last year. Cool. And I'm trying to get these guys to go to certified seats because there are seats out there that are worth a darn.
Starting point is 00:27:11 You know, they break when they hit stuff, and that's wrong. They shouldn't, seats shouldn't break. And that's just because, you know, the person that builds them, whether it's a carbon fiber seat or aluminum seats bend, they don't break. But these carbon ones break. And when you can move it while it's sitting in, we're just sitting in the car, you grab it and you move it. That's wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:31 It's not strong enough. So my goal, the ASA guys, I jumped in with those guys. I said, okay, here's, we go to the running Hickory on the Thursday, and then they go on a Saturday night to Tri-County. I said, okay, I'll put up a $5,000 bonus. Somebody wins the race. I'll give you $5,000, along as you're in my seat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You know, I'm trying to move some seats. I think I sold two already for that, but I think I had to sell about $10 to pay for it. I'm just trying to help. Yeah, but you're back a little bit. It's more about helping people than anything else. The short track world, if they've seen all the videos and they've understood all the safety things that we know, yes.
Starting point is 00:28:15 They would be in a certified seat. Oh, absolutely. They would have the seatbelts in the correct spot. They would have, you know, no bolts sticking out. They would have, you know, they would have all these things. And they just, yes, we've come a long way in our short track world. of safety. But there are a lot of people still that don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You ain't good. I want to say this by 30%, 30, 40%. I mean, I still go to short tracks and I look and we were down at the up at Langley, I do believe, the stock division. Corey's running the K&N deal. I'm just walking through the pits looking. A guy has a car sitting there. It's a nice car.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You got some wind stickers on it. And I look in the left side lap seatbelt is pop riveted. That's good. Into the car. Yeah, that's good. And I said to the guy, he says, are you kidding me? He says, why? I see, that's pop riveted.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I'll say, I'll go get a bolt. I says, I'll get some tools. I said, we've got to change that. We got to, you can't happen. He said, but it's a steel rivet. Friggin racers. Freaking racers. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Weight. It was weight. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Saving three ounces. Anything good happened to you guys at Phoenix this weekend? Did you enjoy your weekend? I did.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah, we had a pretty good run. We had a really good car. We started deep, Bubba, Bubba, qualifies about as bad as you possibly could at Phoenix. He's got a, I think we average about 85th place starting spot there. But he did a really good job. He drove up into the top, I don't know, 15, 12. I think we got to 10th because of a couple guys got flats on that,
Starting point is 00:29:49 no a caution. So we're sitting there going to be 10th, come out of the pits 10th, and dumbass sped on pit road. So we went back to the back. That doesn't help. We went back to the back and came back up, actually got stage points in that stage. And then just hung on.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I thought we were probably top five car. I don't think we had anything for the 12 or the 20. Those guys were class of the feet. field. But I thought we could have run top five and we ended up, we finished six. We ended up getting beat by a couple guys that took two tires there and I lack caution. But yeah, overall, a good day for us, really good day. We're staying up there, I think it's still third in points. So you mentioned all those blown tires. That was crazy. I was like, in and out paying attention, you know, just sit on the couch watching it and Noah's caution came out. And the
Starting point is 00:30:25 next thing, you know, it was like five or six different people on the screen, just blowing tires. Yeah, I assume I didn't really go back and check, but I assume he must have brought up a rotor when he hit the fence and just there was probably rotor pieces everywhere. I've seen them pull a piece out of somebody's front grill. Yeah, he blew it. It was like the yellow come out, and then it was four guys instantly, just one after another coming down pit road. Yeah, but, yeah, other than that, Tommy, I mean, how was your race?
Starting point is 00:30:50 I mean, I know I knew you were on lead lap all day because we were pitted. You did us a favor all day. You were kind of giving us a break and pitting the second time by, but I knew you were lead lap because you could have pitted right on top of us all day long. Yeah, I mean, we struggled all day. obviously we had to pretty much the same setup as the 8 car and we
Starting point is 00:31:07 did a pretty good job running with them all all day but yeah we ended up 24th I think on the lead lap with what we had going on which we there was a visual issue I mean we could see it we just had to just get through the race and like I told Cody
Starting point is 00:31:24 after the race I mean for what we had and still running with the group that we were racing with and finishing the lead lap let's take it and get out of here and get on the Vegas So, yeah, it was a solid day. I thought it was a really good Phoenix race. I mean, I know you've, I mean, Phoenix usually kind of puts a snoozy around. But, I mean, I thought yesterday was kind of entertaining to watch.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I had soon for home. All weekend was. I mean, the Indy car deal was cool to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I watched that one from the grandstands. Yeah, me too. I had no idea what was going on the whole time. This pitch strategy is so kind of, I don't know what. Like, Paddo was running sixth, somehow pitted and came out of straightaway ahead everybody. And then never really gave it back. I was like, I don't know what happened, but good for him. But yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But yeah, it was fun. The one thing I did not like, I don't know if you ran into this at all. And I tried to talk to Mike Ford about this. I never really got a straight answer because Mike didn't really know exactly who to talk to. But like we run these combo weekends, you know, where we got IndyCar and NASCAR together. And we're not even allowed. And you're not even allowed to go in their garage or they're not allowed to come in our garage. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:20 It was like Fort Knox. Like don't dare go in either. And I don't think it was NASCAR side really, but I don't know. So I don't want to. But like, just the fact that I was like, I'm going to walk through their garage and like just take a look around. You're not. No, the hell you're not. You know, I went over to see Georgia and they're like, nope, you're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I'm like, she's right there. I'm going to walk right here. She's like, all right, whatever. But still, like, I would think we should be inviting them into our garage to look around. We should be allowed to go in there. It's like, I think that's the whole point. I was going to be at, having these combo weekends. One of the points of the combo weekend is for everybody to enjoy each other's company.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I couldn't even walk out on pit road. I mean, I got a hard card. Like, when they were racing going on, you were not allowed to walk on pit road with a NASCAR hard card. I was like, I mean, I get it. Maybe some of the VIP guests from NASCAR and you don't need to be like, if you've got a credential from that series, it makes sense to me that you should be able to like go intermingle with each other. They've been like that forever.
Starting point is 00:33:06 We did a, myself and Tony Stewart, flew from Pike's Peak to Michigan, IndyCar and I Rock. We're at Michigan. We're in the I rock deal. And I ended up winning that day. But same thing. Here we are. And the Indy cars are there.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And you're walking around and you can't even get into Indy Carriage. I was like, wait a second. I'm an I rock guy. You know, they didn't care. They had their wine and cheese set up. I wonder if that has to do with, like, insurance or something. It has to be. Yeah, when they had it at Texas years ago, they didn't have that.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We could, we could, because, you know, I got some friends in the Indy garage there. And I tried to go see if they were there still, you know, because I've lost contact with them. Nope. No. No. No. Tom, we were talking about this before the show started Blaney. Just unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Yeah, I don't think he's impressive yesterday, right? I just don't think he's getting enough credit to what he did yesterday coming from the back. twice, you know, last twice. I don't think, would they get caught speeding both times? No, I know he had loose wheel. Both left sides, I think were loose at one point. But, yeah, I know he was getting a little hot with the pit crew. But, you know, that's, I mean, when you're the car's that good, it's hard to swallow when you're losing spots.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Just watching him, just how he just does it, man. It's just, it's different. It's different. He's just. You don't use the bumper either. No, he's just never. I mean, very rare. I mean, again, I'll keep repeating it when he first did.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He's just, he's going to go down as one of the best race car drivers there is. I mean, there is. End of story. Yeah. I mean, what he did yesterday, like you said, just coming from the back and to Randy's point, like never, doesn't touch anybody ever. Like, he's the only one that I've noticed in the last two years that just gets through traffic. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:43 That car, anywhere we talk about struggle to pass, this, that, and the other, no matter what he's a guy that can make passes. Well, I don't know, you know, maybe he needs to step as qualifying up, so he doesn't have to make so many passes. But, uh. He finished. Every time he's got to do that, he's, there's a penalty. He doesn't. So if you have a passing cars, it's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, yeah. That's one of the things being a race car driver, you don't mind doing. You know, you pass a car and then you tell the guy he's number one. See ya. See ya. Yeah, when he went through all those guys at one time, there was a whole gaggle about 10 cars. I mean, three wives. It was impressive to watch for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Justin Allgaier wins on Saturday. Grass is green and sky is blue and other breaking news. I mean, he's just, that's just one of his places, man. He's just, Brandy, do you have a place like that where, you know, you just went there knowing, like, these sons of bitches got to beat me today. Danbury. Danbury. Danbury. I run one on Dover. I won four races at Dover, and that's just, that place is cool.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah, what's it like walking in a place like that? You know, like, you know, your chest is out three degrees. I mean, you're just kind of always out. Bring it. Bring it, boys. Let's go. That was a really good race. I thought Carson was in position that not you.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I haven't gone through the approval process. You could get approved, though, I think. But, no, I think I thought Carson Cople did a really good job in that race. He lost a low track position on the pit cycle. And then as he was going back by Creed for the lead, the yellow comes out. He kind of gets swallowed up on a restart and tries to battle back from there. I think he ended up third. So he did a good job.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Hell, I was saying, I was like, where was this in November? We were trying to win championships. I'm like, come on. They knew you were there. They didn't want you to run too hard. Yeah, they didn't want me to have to party, burn the place down. Penske sweeps, yeah. New Garden won on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I didn't know where. I was downstairs watching on TV with my buddy, Brian, and I was like, ah, this is kind of over, I think. And I wasn't paying really attention because they were only focused on a leader, and it was that Rasmussen or whatever that was leading. Kirkwood. Oh, Kirkwood, yeah. And I said, oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:36:40 He's going to, he's going to, this is probably over. And by the time I got to the roof, Jefferson Hodges was spotting for him. And he's like, fist bump and everybody. I'm like, what happened? I was like, where the hell did you come from? You already on the TV? I guess he just turned it up late and just like, like drove through the field. I didn't, I didn't see any of it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 It was all, he did good. Yeah. I mean, that other cat was a Matt Rasmussen. He got stuffed in the fence. Oh. Yeah. So he didn't, that usually doesn't help. Yeah. I kept spot. I mean, texting you guys is like, see, spotters? But these guys? Yeah, correct. Yeah, the, the, the, the pullo was early, right? And then, and then the one with Willpower and Rasmussen there, that was, and listen, those are, it was weird to me because, like, we, I was watching up there. me and hersman, Corey Hine, we're watching up on the, like, spotter stand, but there's a grandstand over there. And we're right above the star finish line, so you can't really see down on the star finish line. It was blocked out by the grandstand. And I saw a pillow coming up, and I'm like, well, surely he knows he's out there, right?
Starting point is 00:37:32 Like, I'm like, he's going to know. And then they disappear. And the next time I saw him again, he was in the fence. I'm like, oh, I guess he didn't know. But then there's, like, I saw like the Indy car. People were like, no, that was, I think it was maybe VK that happened. He's like, no, that was his fault. And I'm like, how could that be?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Like I guess, I don't know, they have different rules in that racing. But, yeah, they definitely had some issues with clearing each other. Yeah, I think they need to revise the spotting theories in Oval Track. I think they're used to road course stuff. Something. Yeah, yeah, because there was a couple crashes that shouldn't have happened. Yeah, for sure. That's all spotting number one, right?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, yeah, that's one. That's your ultimate goal is safety. Like, no, do not let them crash. Tommy, obviously the first race at Phoenix with the increased horsepower. We had a tire that wore out. Who knew that worn out tires and a little more horsepower is going to make for good racing? Yeah, I don't understand it. I just, you know, just, oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, I mean, the couple things that stood out during the race, a couple of guys tried to stay out after 10, 12 laps on the tires, right? And last year, you could do it. Yeah. Right? This year, no. They both times went to the back. And I was a little confused when, who did it the second time?
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm like, didn't they just watch? Yeah, the priest and priest and Brad did it first, I think. And then maybe the 21? 21 and somebody else? Nine. Yeah, did it the second? I'm like, didn't they just see? The only thing I could think, I mean, I know they were trying to bank a set of tires hoping for the costs to keep coming out.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Because we were pitting. I mean, we were out. I mean, that was it for us. That was our last set of stickers we put on with whatever it was, 25 to go. and then we had one more set that we could put on that had like 12 laps on it but we were like before the race they said basically you have three starting to race you got three extra sets if you pit on schedule leaves you with three extra sets to potentially pit twice in the last two stages but they said that's it then you know so if we get a rash of cautions
Starting point is 00:39:24 we might be in trouble and we started having all these cautions and I felt like we were coming back to pit road every 15 20 laps and I'm like we got we got we got one more because you had your qualifying set with this whatever lap on them and then you got sticker sets and I said we and they said yeah we started the third stage I said all right we're putting this set on we've got one qualifying set and we've got one sticker set and then but I mean it just worked out perfect for us but yeah there was getting but those guys I think some of them guys were banking on kind of like a darlington which is weird to see a phoenix but you know you're trying to put that set in the bank for if you know we run 25 laps and then you're the only one sitting
Starting point is 00:40:01 there with you know you get a caution you're the only one sitting there were tires with 10 to go you're going to blitz through the field and probably win the race but it just didn't work out for guys unfortunately. When did they stop? Remember, that used to be fun to watch was when the guys run out of tires. Guys go down to this guy. Hey, we're buying that set. No longer. No longer. It's a number, right? You just get those sets and that's it. Do you think, I mean, that's, but I love that about the Xfinity series especially because obviously it's less there. You know, I like yesterday, like where you had to, like, some guys can take that. You know, you have the option to,
Starting point is 00:40:31 I don't like the places like, I forget where we can't think about it right now, but like, we go someplace and it's like, you could just come down pit road and put time. on every time you want and you're never going to run out. I like a deal like yesterday where it's like, yeah, we're going to keep firing tires on it, but, you know, I don't, I don't, we could run out. Or you can bank a set and hope to catch it. If you do catch a late caution, you're going to have an exciting finish. But Blaney survives the Joey Lugano Fury on the Penske cars.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. I think he wiped them all out except for Blaney yesterday. Correct. He got, he got, I don't know what happened. I guess did he just turn, Ross? Like, look, did he just knock him out of shape? I didn't get a good look at it because we were in that. Hit him twice.
Starting point is 00:41:09 First he gave him a little shot, turned him. And when it turned him, he'd come back up and then he got him again. And they kind of got hooked together. And they both went. He had trouble. He had trouble on that straightaway. That was his Achilles' heel yesterday. I guess it was AJ, I think, turned, ended up turning him down into one.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And he slid back up and cleaned out the other Penske car, Woodbrothers, whatever, you want to call it. So, yeah, he did some damage in the whole Penske's shop yesterday, but Planey survives to win, of course. We talked about this before. SVG, Tommy. Really impressive yesterday, I thought. Ran up front all day. He had a couple spins. Still came back for a top 10, I think.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Sitting 15 points. We talked about this guy being improved on ovals. And here he is. Obviously, we've run two plate races and on a road course. But, I mean, to be sitting 15 points after these first four races is pretty impressive. Yeah, and still having more road course races, right, to gain the max points, right, which he's probably going to get. So I think he's going to be pretty tough this year.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I mean, that team is rolling. You said you saw this coming last year. You know, he kind of raced around you guys the first half of the year, and then you said like it's like a light switch. All of a sudden, you never saw him again. Yeah, it's just, you know, and when I asked, I said, all right, after our conversation, because I had a conversation with the competition director.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm like, you know, both our cars look exactly the same, every race. And then two weeks later, all of a sudden, I don't see him anymore. I'm like, all right, after our conversation, what did you do? He goes, nothing. We did nothing. same setup, same stuff, he's just getting better. I said, okay, you're full of shit, but okay. Oh, he's world-class.
Starting point is 00:42:44 He's a world-class driver. I mean, he's talented as hell. And he's not going to put up with anybody's crap anymore. I mean, you can see it out there. I mean, you know, just, yeah, he's good. And his teammates struggling a little bit. Yeah, Connor. Yeah, he's having a hard go out.
Starting point is 00:42:59 He's learning this cup racing is a little different thing. Big time. Yes. Yeah, it's a big step, man. You can't, it's put into words. I don't know if I told this story on here before, but I talked to Jesse Love, you know, I think it was at your house. But we were hanging out over there, and I said to him, I said, what did you think, you know, he ran Bristol last year, which is, I think his first cup race. And I said, where did you think you were going to run when you went to Bristol?
Starting point is 00:43:23 You know, I said, honestly going to, because I know Jesse's kind of very confident, which he has every right to be. He's like, man, I thought I could go in there, a good RCR car. He goes, I thought I was going to run top 10. He says, and I couldn't fucking run top 30. said I was hanging. He goes, I do everything all I could. And he goes, it's unbelievable how big that leap is from the Xfinity or O'Reilly series to the Cup series. You can't put into words.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And I think, and Conner's running well. I mean, he's got speed, but he's just those, you can't make those little mistakes. And it's all the things that matter. It's just like you, it's like you got to grow up, right? It's all of a sudden it's like, okay, now you're an adult now. Good luck. Go out there and see how you do. You know, it's a whole different world, man.
Starting point is 00:44:04 series is no joke you know those guys put their helmets on that they they're ready for battle yeah yeah and then they're the they're the best that you know we got is in the cup series yeah and uh you know Connor did a great job by he got messed around a couple times there at coda you know he well he passed a hundred cars out yeah he might have won the race in he's uh he definitely not doing what he did in the Xfinity series it will it'll again there'll be a switch yep and he'll be fine he just he's going to have to have to go through this stuff, you know? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think. Send it. Why me? All right, we'll get into spot on, spot off.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Tom, I know you love to talk about tires. So crew chiefs got too aggressive with tire pressure after we saw no issues in stage one, spot on, spot off. And then this is also when Goodyear tweeted before the race, They said, before we go racing, the recommended pressures were not guesses. So are you spot on, spot off for them getting too aggressive after stage 12? You know, I thought that after practice, you know, let's just use RFK as an example, right?
Starting point is 00:45:21 The 17 and the six had issues. They didn't have issues in the race, right? You can't change the cambers. You can't change anything after inspection. So the only thing they had to change is air pressure, right? Well, they were probably way too low, right? But a lot of it has to do with the brake cooling, too, stuff that goes on there. But, yeah, I think some guys were a little aggressive on that, you know, and it matches the camber, right?
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's a whole – you got brake temp, you got camber, and you got air pressure. Those three things cause a tire to blow. And I think the six and the 17 did it within one lap in practice of each other. So that tells me that was definitely an air pressure issue. Even the, we did watch the six car do an install lap, right? They did a slow lap and then, you know, took off, which usually fixes that type of issue. But, you know, they had an issue there. And the eight car had a couple issues, which is weird because we were same air pressure, same cameras, same everything as them.
Starting point is 00:46:23 But we did have different cooling package. The three and eight had their cooling package set up in 33. and 51 had a different one we were testing for, you know, for the future of stuff. So it could have been something to do with that. But yeah, I mean, we know going in that, you know, it's going to be an issue. It's always been an issue at Phoenix, right? Yeah. We've always had issues.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And you've got to be careful there. How much, what's the window we're talking about? Obviously, you know, you want to, if you don't have an issue, you're going to creep it down a little bit. A quarter pound. Is a difference in blowing a tire or not blowing a tire? Yes. Yes, if you are a quarter pound too low of where you are, probably less. Let's do two tenths.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Right, well, it's just quarter pound. A tenth of a pound. If you are lower than that, you're going to have an issue. Yeah, that's crazy. That's small. Because you, like, you saw no problems in that first. We all ran 60 laps, no issues. And now, you know, you know there's a little speed there.
Starting point is 00:47:25 If you can get a little, you know, you can, you know, get that air pressure a little lower. Randy, how, and as a driver, how much do you want your crew, chief to push the envelope. Where's the risk versus reward for you of, you know, I'm a seventh place car now, but if I get, you know, a couple more tense, I know I can go run top two or three and maybe win this thing, but I'm also at the risk of blowing my tires out. Do they need air?
Starting point is 00:47:47 The less air makes me go faster? Take all air out. Let's go. As far as the driver, you just want the fastest thing, and you don't know what you don't know. So you're like, okay, I don't know that, you know, 18 pounds is going to put me windshield deep in the fence and if I would have had 18.5 I would have been okay.
Starting point is 00:48:07 You know, it's the dry ride. I don't think they, whatever makes that car go quicker. That's what they want. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's how hard is it on the box for you? Like, you know, you're sitting there going,
Starting point is 00:48:19 I know that if I dropped this thing a quarter pound, we're going to pick up a little bit. But, you know, how hard is it to make that decision? I mean, especially like you said, after the first segment, nobody had issues, then you're like, okay, The tracks rubbered up a little bit. There's more rubber on the track.
Starting point is 00:48:36 We didn't see any problem. All right, let's go down a quarter pound, right? Boom, boom. You know, it's like, oh, shit, you know? But, yeah, I mean, it's a tough call. We, you know, like Goodyear. Good Year does have recommended air pressures. They do their extensive testing.
Starting point is 00:48:55 They give us reports. Each manufacturer breaks down those reports. if they think they're wrong or right or indifferent, and we go by that, some of it's different than the Good Year Report, right? Some manufacturers break it down a little bit more and say, you need to go lower or you need to go higher. You know, again, we are going to test the limits,
Starting point is 00:49:17 and Phoenix has always been an issue there. Yeah, I mean, we saw this last year, essentially. You know, with the rig, oh, the car. I mean, you see it all the time. It's just... How far below recommendations? Pressures, would you start a race? I mean, like, is it a lot?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Or is it? I mean, I'm saying, like, I don't need you exact numbers, but like, you're not running recommended pressures. You try not to, I mean, but you need to. I mean, you know, there's a, there's a thing that we look at is, there's a limit of grip at the end
Starting point is 00:49:49 of a run where the air pressure's at. And if you go over that air pressure, you're going to lose a lot of grip. And that air pressure buildup happens pretty quick, right? 10, 12, laps, you're almost at max air. Well, if you're over that limit, you're losing grip for 40 laps of a run. So it's our job to try to hit that point of max grip of that air pressure at the hot pressure is where it needs to be. So if we come in and practice and we have a run and it's two
Starting point is 00:50:18 pounds over, right, that run of a 15, 16 lap, oh, shit, man, we're going to be really over the limit the next day. All right, let's go down a half a pound. Let's see what that does. And Capao, you know, and that's what happens. And then there we are. All right. That'll be got on tires. Anybody else can you say? All right.
Starting point is 00:50:37 After back-to-back top five finishes, Ty Gibbs says, quote, I'm with the right guys, end quote. Spot on, spot off. Freddie, why are you making those wide eyes? Listen, you know, I think Ty, I'm spot on for Ty. I mean, he's coming off two really good runs. I'm glad to see him running well. You know, he's had to read a lot of shit about himself
Starting point is 00:50:56 in the last couple weeks that's kind of getting dragging his name through the mud a little little bit and I think he's kind of letting his results through the talking right now. You know, he hasn't really said much until this and he didn't really say anything except for I'm with the right guys now. And it's essentially a lot of the same guys he had last year. So, listen, he might be talking about the guys he's racing with
Starting point is 00:51:13 too. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, yeah, because yeah, you're running up front with guys you should be racing with now compared to the guys in the back. But listen, you know, I don't know Ty really well. I know him a little bit. I got to hang out with him. We, he was filled in for Kurt the second half of that year. Kurt got hurt. So we had him around
Starting point is 00:51:29 some of the meetings and stuff. And he was a fun-loving kid that seemed like he was having a lot of fun and was joking around with Bubbo a lot. We were joking around. You know, we'd have these meetings and he'd come and be ready to go, Rip. And then I felt like last year I didn't see that same guy. Like, you know, I mean, it looked to me like a guy that wasn't having fun racing. And I feel like I tell all the young guys that I work with, if you're not having fun doing this, you might as well quit because it's not, you know, it's going to just drag you down and beat you up a little bit. I'm sure he's got a lot of like pressure on his shoulders and stuff too.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Oh, for sure. He, you know, but it looks to me, like this year, it's kind of, the little bit I've solved in this year, like getting in that dirt car, I think has helped him. He's been running with Chad a little bit, and he rips in that thing all the time. I think he's having fun again, and I think the results are starting to show. Yeah, I agree with that. I think once you get in a position that you get comfortable with the people you're around and without distractions, maybe he was, you know, it was a distraction last year, right?
Starting point is 00:52:24 There was a lot of stuff going on behind the closed doors that nobody knew about. So I think he's in a good place. And when Randy can attest to this, when you are surrounded with people that will go through the wall with you, it changes, right? It's worth a couple tense. It is. It does. It changes your whole outlook on stuff. And a lot of drivers are like that, man.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They want the confidence. They're the ones that are getting in that car going 180 mile an hour, right? So they got to rely on your confidence of knowing that their confidence needs to be up, right? So I think he's at a point now that he's getting finishes. He's learning to finish. That's a big thing. He's learning not to run into anybody for the finish, right? He raced a clean race yesterday, didn't have any problems.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And all of a sudden he's going to sit back. Man, that made a difference. Wow, I finished there. Wow, I didn't run into anybody either. Wow, I didn't cause any cautions. Okay, there might be something to this, right? Yeah. He didn't even race Danny Hamlin when Danny come past him.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I was like, oh, this is going to be interesting. And, you know, within a half a lap, Danny got back around him. I said, oh, the kid's getting it. Yeah. And, you know, he's, listen, I think he's a playoff driver. I think he's going to make the playoffs. I think he's, I think there's a good chance he wins a race, maybe two this year. He's got enough speed to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Like you said, he's got to put the races together. But, like, how big of that is just, like he said, Randy, his confidence, you know, you got those people around you. And then, you know, he made a mistake in Atlanta. He tried to make a move that wasn't there, got him. self-wrecked, bounces back two weeks later now, back-to-back top fives. You know, you just carry that confidence with you, and I feel like momentum is a big thing in our sport.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Oh, huge. And I'm not sure it was a negative or a positive, but back in my day, we didn't have social media. So you weren't being slammed on social media. You didn't have to read all the shit afterwards. Yeah. You know, I mean, we had a couple newspapers and you would go see the guy if he wrote something, if he trashed you or something, you'd say, hey, what's up with you?
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah. You know, and but nowadays, the social media is just, is brutal on these guys. And if you play that game, it could beat you down. Yeah. For sure. Speaking of social media, I think that's coming out. Oh, that's great. Well, no, let's just get into it now.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Go ahead. Fire it up. Do you want to fire off the top? All right, here we go. Cleetus McFarland to make his O'Reilly Auto Part series debut for RCR after only one start in the Craftsman Truck series. Yes. Thomas, you have the floor. Yeah, I mean, it's great.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I mean, I can't wait. We're going to be good. We're going to be good. It's going to be good. Then you have Kyle Bush who says that my son has probably run more races than he has and he's 10 years old. Which he has. He has. But he don't have the following that Clea.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. I mean, hey, man, like what did you say, we need to bring that. I would bring everybody. Mr. Beast. He's got, Clears got four. This guy's got 400. 400 million? Yeah, we definitely need him.
Starting point is 00:55:23 But yeah. Randy, I mean, I mean. I'd like to get your take on this because obviously you've been through it. Your kids have been through it. The approval process of having to move up the ladder. And now you see a guy that's going to just get to skip basically every rung on the ladder to go racing. Is it a good thing? It's a different world, you know, and it's about those likes and the people and the followers.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Tic-tacks. Yeah, whatever all that stuff is. I don't mind because, hell, I'm building them a seat. Yeah, you're making a thousand. You're going to try. So I'm okay watching him. I know he's going to be safe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Because I do believe we'll get some crash info from him. So we'll get some data. We'll get some data. And we can learn stuff. But he's a good kid, good guy. And, you know, what a deal. I mean, who would have thunk whatever he's done, you know, just, okay, I'm going to buy me a racetrack. And who would have think that YouTube and whatever that stuff is that he does makes him a gazillionaire?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know. And that's, sorry. Yeah. No, I was just going to say, I mean, that's, to me, I read all the things and agree with people that say, like, the sport needs him for the sake of bringing a fresh new perspective and just someone else to watch and bring viewership and bring people out. But, like, I mean, like, we just keep beating to death and probably what you're getting ready to say. It's just.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah, but that's great. We're not against Cletus. No, I know. No, that's what I'm saying is. Everybody's like, well, F you, every you guys, you know. It's not about Cletus. No. Like, he can still bring those followers, but why don't, why don't you bring you?
Starting point is 00:56:53 those followers eight months later, right, when you are a little bit more vested into the, you know, I mean, and what a journey would be for his followers to go through all that stuff, right? Yeah, that's a great point, you know what I'm saying? Do that YouTube video. Right, yeah, do all that of everything that you really got to do. I mean, a guy don't even know a difference between a pro-late model and a super late model, or there's two different divisions.
Starting point is 00:57:16 It's like, you know, this is what you need to be driving. This is how you need to be starting. These are the things that you need to be doing. It's like, trust the process, man. You're only going to hurt yourself. I'm sorry. He's only hurting himself by doing what he's doing. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I'm not going to worry about all this. It's all cool. I'm going to be back. Yeah, you're going to be back, but you're not helping yourself. Yeah. I think that that's been lost on people. Like, they read that we had a negative opinion about. They don't read the actual opinion.
Starting point is 00:57:44 They just say, oh, these guys don't like Cletus. No. There's nothing to do. Cletus. I've never met him. Totally love Cletus. You were in the lobby the other day doing a video with Wyatt. Hey, what's up, man.
Starting point is 00:57:51 moving on. Like he's, it's just, you know, I said this on that overdrive video I did the other day. Like, he's not ready for Xfinity series. Like, he's going to go to Rockingham. And the best thing that's going to happen to him is run last and not wreck. That's the only, that's the only win that comes out of that race. He's not going to go up and contend at all. You know, he's just hoping to get through that race without any incident so he can go run to Aldeagan.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And I'm fine with that. You know, keep yourself out of trouble. But like, you're not ready to be out there with the Xfinity guys. I'm sorry. That's just the end-all be all to. And there's a couple of guys out there are squirrels. There's a handful. I mean, there's a, listen, that's what that was going to be getting at with this approval process.
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's like, there's guys out there that don't belong out there. And there's guys sitting at home, Corey, you know. Or guys that run the car store. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't understand doing it just for the sake of fucking doing it. Like, to say that you go and ran a NASCAR race. Like, call me different.
Starting point is 00:58:41 But I would want to go do that and put my best foot towards it and know that I could, something could come out of it. rather than just getting to make a YouTube video and say I ran a fucking NASCAR race. Yeah. Well, listen, I think he wants to be good at it. He does. I just think that he can't, you can't skip that many steps. You listen to him. And expect to be good at it.
Starting point is 00:59:03 If you listen to that Dale Jr. download, he doesn't know. Yeah. He has no clue yet. Yeah. There's no, he has no business of running Rockingham and an old Riley's race. He has no business. I'm sorry. And again,
Starting point is 00:59:18 has nothing to do with him, right? Yeah. Has nothing to do with him. You'd say the same about anybody. There's a lot of people in that race that probably have no business being in that race. I visualize coming out of turn two, hitting the outside wall
Starting point is 00:59:31 and then going down hitting the inside wall. It's good data. Good data for you. A lot of people have done that. Yeah. You know, it's just I don't understand why, like I've said a thousand times and all these opinions that we need them.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Like I think he can help us a lot. Put them on the broadcast. Let him do the pit walk that MW. Michael Walter does. like let him do shit like that and that'll bring this as many eyes people want to hear from him they want to see him so they'll bring that he's gonna do better for us doing that than he does run in an or rally race so you know i don't know and like i see you know dale i don't know what happened to dale three weeks ago he said he wasn't ready to run a truck now he's got him in an or rally race you're all good buddy go get him yeah um you know and then mark martin like some of these guys i think they're coming to keyboard warriors that's what you could do they're like am i going to get my everybody to hate me on social media or are they going to like me and am I
Starting point is 01:00:20 am I going to get some Eccleous followers? Come on. You can tell people what they want to hear. Or you can be honest and have four and a half million people hate you. And I found out, I found about three million of those people the last couple weeks. But I don't care. I'm going to say what I think is right. You know, what I believe. He calls himself out
Starting point is 01:00:38 when he screws up. Yes. And it's good. I mean, he's definitely not vanilla. There's no. You know, we saw it with Catherine last year. We see it with people like Natalie Decker. You know, we gave her shit about that Daytona wreck, she's in a lose-lose situation in that race. She's either going to run last or something stupid like that's going to happen. She's not going to go contend. So why are you even in the race? But, you know, I get it. The money for sponsorship is better in O'Reilly than it is in
Starting point is 01:01:03 ARCA or whatever. And even if they did approve him to go, he should not be approved for Rockingham to start. That's a place. Who come up with that? I don't even understand. I don't understand what Rockingham, running at Rockingham correlates to Talladega. Like, I'd almost rather him just go to Talladega. It's safer. It's safer for the people around him.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah. You know what I mean? Maybe if he's not in the pack, maybe not. But if he gets approved for Talladega, he is going to qualify in a top five. Oh yeah. And then look the fuck out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Because I don't know what's going to happen at that point. You know, so it's, you know, that's the stuff. he is fine. Like the guy, if he approached the right way, like if he went to Daytona and Randallarice like Pastrana, I would be like, okay, this guy gets it. He's not ready to be in this pack yet. He's going to take what comes.
Starting point is 01:01:57 But he just injected himself into three wide races. But it's not his fault. Because if someone said, look, man, sat him down and look, man, this is really the right thing you need to do. These are the processes you really need to do. No one has done that. Everyone's like, rah, rah, rah, go do it. Go show everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:16 You're wrong. They're going to be wrong. Yeah. Right? I mean, hey, look, he might set the world on fire. And we might just come into the show on Monday after Rockingham. Are we doing the show after Rockingham? Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:27 The next week. The next week. And we might say, swallow, you know. Yeah. And I'll be. And I hope. I would love nothing more for Cleetus to go out at Rockingham and make me look like a fucking idiot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Because if he runs top 10, the world is all great. Yeah. Because he did exactly what he's. supposed to do and he's approved for Tal Daga and he was competitive and now the sport's going to blow up because of Cleeds McFarland. Unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen. We'll see. We'll be wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:54 All right. At 53 points back from 16th Chase Briscoe is too far out to make the playoffs. Spot on, spot off. He's currently 33rd in points 178 back from the lead and he's finished 36, 37th, 37th, and second. He's got a good run to go. At least he's consistently 37. Gosh, man.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah. I think it's, I honestly think it's easier this year than it has been. And you saw last year at this point last year, there was two guys that were in the same ballpark that both got to the top 16 in points. Cendrick and Gibbs. Gibbs was 34th in points with 41 points at this point last year. Cendrick was 32nd. He had 52 points.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Brisco is whatever he was, but he's got 43rd. They both were able to point their way in. They've got enough speed in that 19 car. That team, if James can get him a map to the promise land. You know, he can, I think they have enough speed to wear it. And you saw, like yesterday we talked about it, you know, that win bonus is making a big difference. Because Blaney, you know, years past you would have maybe, like I talked about last week, it's smaller gap.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yesterday it was 11 points to second. But then it was a 30 point gap almost to the guy that got fifth place points. So if he goes and wins a couple races, he's going to make a jump. But here's the problem. 14th to 22nd place cars have gotten better. Yeah, for sure. Right? I'm telling you, this Cup series has gotten way harder this year.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Everybody is running really, really, really good. And it's all going to be about execution, man. That's all this year is going to be about of the 25 guys that are really fighting to get into the top six team. It's who's going to execute, who's going to get in there. And so far, unfortunately, it hasn't happened, right? You know, things have happened, yes, but they need to, like, get on a roll.
Starting point is 01:04:46 They need to get on a Tyler Reddick role, right? And I think, you know, Blaney said this. I heard Blaney said, and I think he attributed to the Lugano. He said this year the standings are going to be, you take an elevator down and a staircase back up. You know, you have a mistake. You're going to plummet, and then you're going to have to work your way back up. Randy, I mean, you won two championships in a 36 race format or whatever,
Starting point is 01:05:06 how many race would be running back there? But every race mattered. And, you know, how hard, how much, how hard is it to approach that when you have to, You know you got to execute every week in and out. There's no more winning in and I take up, I take them a month off. They start counting points at Daytona, the first race. And if you give up, you know, it's hard to give up the beginning of the year because you can lose a championship in the first 10 races. You're not going to win it, but you definitely can lose it.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And they, I think the 19 is going to be safe, though, because they got too much speed, you know. And I don't know. What happened to them yesterday? That was a car problem. Yeah, blue tire. Blue right front. Okay. Yeah. I think it was the same thing we talked about, you know, maybe push the issue a little bit.
Starting point is 01:05:47 But that goes back to execution, you know, and, you know, we saw big jumps yesterday. You know what I mean? We saw guys, Abel, shout out to Taylor. Yeah, but the thing is, reason why it is big jumps is because it's the started year. The points are closer. Yeah, yeah. Every race, the points are going to spread out, spread out more. So the more mistakes you're going to make, the more further you're going to be back.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So, yeah, it's easier right now. Yeah. But in about four or five races from now, it's not going to be. But, oh, my God. It's almost halfway then, right, until playoff. So it's like, holy cow. Yeah. Shout out to Taylor Kitchen.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I saw her tweet this this morning when I was half asleep still. Bell, he gained 18 spots yesterday. Then he gained 11. Even Eric Jones, who only had a 27-point day, gained seven spots in the standing. So, you know, like you said, at this point, if they can go out next, Vegas, they'll run well. Darlington, they'll probably run well. They'll get a good jump. They'll probably be in the top 20.
Starting point is 01:06:37 The problem's going to be, can he contend for a championship? I think he's going to make the playoffs. But now he's going to, if he gets a. gets to the playoffs, he's not going to, I don't know, it's going to have a hard time getting to the top five, top ten, you know, so now he's going to start the playoffs 100 points back of the leader, then that's going to be a hard margin of glass. So I think he'll make the playoffs. I think he's, they're going to have a hard time contend for the championship.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And he pissed me off because I picked them yesterday. So now you're going to wreck him? No, I just pissed me off. We finished 37. I was on his team yesterday. All right, DBC fans, it's time to read. All right, it is time for reaction theater where fans can call in and voice. their opinions from this weekend's race.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I hope we got a good amount of calls this week. Dalton, are we looking okay? We need to bump the numbers up a little bit. We got to, do we need to do some sort of like sweepstakes or some sort of shit to get reaction theater popping back off? Like, do we need to come up with something? Not sweepstakes to date me. I get it.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I can come up. I can come up with some shit. No, no. The sweepstakes cannot be, have nothing, they can't have anything to do with me. Oh, okay. All right. We'll figure something out. I think we'll probably get some Ryan Blaney once today, right?
Starting point is 01:07:58 You would think. No toaster baths should have been happening. Well, they take the toaster out and just celebrating the baths. We got Kyle. Bronco, Kyle's rough. Oh, Kyle's stuff, yeah. I sit here as a Briscoe fan. I just wanted to end.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I'm happy for the Blaney fans in their toaster ovens. But please, man, give me something. I want to get bricked up again. Is that how you felt on me yesterday? I was trying to cheer for Briscoe? Every time I lose, it's like 20. Why you're waiting at when I landed at 4 o'clock. While you're waiting on the plane at the airport,
Starting point is 01:08:28 come on, Brisco. He got bored. It is an absolute shame that half of the number 12 Ryan Blaney fans couldn't even see this victory because they already threw that goddamn poster in that bass. Go 12. Go 12. I would just like to congratulate Ryan Blaney
Starting point is 01:08:50 on making history and being the first NASCAR driver with a llama to win a race. Hey. Hopefully he didn't have to go home and box the lawn. Are they good stakes? Why else would dabble? He said they're pretty cool. He said he's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:09:05 He's scared of goats. It protects his goats. Hell if I know. You ain't got a llamas over there in the field filler? No. He's got a bunch of shit. He's got a bunch of shit there.
Starting point is 01:09:14 There might be some out there. It could be, yeah. So I'm just sitting here thinking about Cletus running for RCR. and I just wanted y'all to know that I have about four years of mini stock experience and I have 11 subscribers to my YouTube. So if anybody's looking to hire a driver, I just want to say my services are available. Well, the problem is you have too many races and not enough subscribers.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Yeah, you need less racing and more subscribers and we can get you out there. Oh, yeah, aye. Hi, guys. I'm just here assemble on my son's three-second engine in my garage here and got the race on and just saw Joe Lugano cause his second wreck taking out a bunch of the field. And I'm kind of disappointed. I thought you guys would have told us if T.J started spotting for him again. Oh, T.J. Poor T.J. is going to have a good day tomorrow. They are going to announce us for their jobs, right, Dalton?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yes, C.J.D. Yeah, Brad is the fill-in. host for Dale tomorrow on their Dale Jr. Download. So TJ's going to have his comfort zone back. He's got to have his head directly up to host's ass. So he's just going to go from Dale to Brad. If he's not kissing Dale's ass, he's kissing Brad. So it'll be a natural progression for him. So he'll be very comfortable for DJD tomorrow. I'm glad to hear that. But yeah, old TJ, he's, he's something special. He stands next to me at Phoenix. So he was early in the race. He was tapping me on the shoulder because we qualified. I like shit. He's like, what happened to you guys? You suck.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I said, yeah. See in a minute. See you in a minute. No, we started dead last. Yeah, yeah. Never saw. We did race in one time. You got Bion as a restart because we got shuffled and he was talking some shit. But that's typical for T.J. Well, to leave an audio message 24-7, you can call our number at 704-802-9-5-7-2 and we'll play the best ones each week on the show. You guys would be disappointed in me actually. The other day I was going to tweet the reaction theater phone number. I think it was after last weekend. And I couldn't remember. remember it off the top of my head even though I read it every week. What is wrong?
Starting point is 01:11:24 You guys say it. I was like, 704, 802. I could not remember it. I'm like, I read this off the sheet every week. If you ever run in that problem again, just tweet Tommy's number and it'll be fine. It doesn't get better as you get older. Yeah, no shit. I know.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I'm too young for this to be happening to me. You were talking about hot flashes earlier. I'm like, me too. All right, shit show Hall of Fame. It never fails. can't go a weekend without some shit shows shit show yeah um all right
Starting point is 01:11:54 what do we got first I don't even know what this is I saw this is the crown Vic race at Colden Isles watch this guy come from second this poor guy in the 125 Collins is leading is this coming to the checker yeah this is coming to the checker Randy ever done some shit like this
Starting point is 01:12:10 is that like a buck shot right from a mile back one of our juniors guys did that a couple years ago that Sammy Smith did that Martin'sville Yeah. I don't know. That ain't racing. No, no.
Starting point is 01:12:24 He did get this. He got disqualified. They took the win away, gave it to the third place guy. But, I mean, come from three cars back, just wiped the guy out. Look at him. He's bad. Man, I won. Yeah, no, you didn't.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yeah. Get your ass in the end field. Take her on back to the trailer. Great racing at that place all week. Oh, my gosh. Yes, it was. It was incredible. Those late models put on a show all week.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Oh, Davenport. on a clinic first three nights. Him and O'Neill. A couple of them guys started in the back every race and just it was great racing. I hate to do it, but oh, our girl, Taylor. It was, uh,
Starting point is 01:13:03 and listen, it wasn't just Taylor. I mean, she might have been the last one in there. And I'll say, here's what I'm going to tell everybody. I know everybody wants us to, like, bash the hell out of these girls because of the way we handled the Decker situation. First of all, none of these girls got out and blamed everybody else put themselves in this wreck. I think Taylor
Starting point is 01:13:18 would accept. have full responsibility. I know Isabella, but it's hard to tell people sitting at home how hard it is to see this time of day going down that back straight away at Phoenix. The sun is setting right over that grandstand. And when that, you can't see. You know, it's, it is a blind spot. You see that 55.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Here's how much you can't see. The 55 misses the wreck and then drives right into somebody. It wasn't like she slid into something or, you know, was just going through fast. She's through the wreck right here. You watch the mobile one car. She's through the wreck. and just drives right into somebody because she can't see them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:52 You know, and I'm sure the same thing happened to Taylor where the tracks blocked, you know, like the Decker Those cars also don't stop on a dime either. No. And like the Decker wreck, the track wasn't blocked. You know what I mean? Like so it's not a fair comparison, but, you know, it wasn't a good look. But I think there's some reasons why it happened. And, you know, I don't, I'm not going to sit here and bash to hell at anybody because they
Starting point is 01:14:13 make a mistake. But it's just, it happens in a hurry to me. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, and there's ways that, like, I think that, I think had Natalie get it all, man, I screwed up, then, you know, probably she didn't get so much heat. But she blamed everybody but herself in that scenario where these girls... Nine times out of ten, cars usually don't go up the bank.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. Yeah. That was a weird deal because cars always get. Especially at Daytona. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody ever goes up the banking. Yeah. Everything comes off the bank.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Yeah. Obviously, you want to see something different happen there, but there's a lot of factors that contributed to that happening. I didn't see this outlap. Oscar what Piastri F1 right F1 he reacked on the outlet
Starting point is 01:14:53 yep crash and his like this is just getting him to speed didn't even make the race oh shit oh looks like Scotty Mac
Starting point is 01:15:01 correct yeah right the Indy 500 they said they have well battery power now and it's a big boost and it's not as smooth and it jumped into power and it spun them out
Starting point is 01:15:13 damn there's a lot of I didn't see it Talk of what's going on in that series right now. I didn't either. I know people that, like, followed it. Like my engineer, JR, he loves F1. He didn't seem happy about it. And then other people that really don't watch F1 were like, it was great.
Starting point is 01:15:30 The beginning of the race, they were racing all over each other. So I was like, I don't know if it's the purist. I don't like it because it's not, you know, it's less about the driver and more about the car. I don't know. But it would be interesting to see. A camera guy getting kicked out of a baseball game. Basketball? Basketball.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Oh, no, he didn't get kids. kicked out. He got kicked in. Just kicked. Oh, right in the nuts. Yeah, he didn't wear a cup. Right in the nuts. Who knew that was going to be a full contact sport?
Starting point is 01:15:56 She didn't even say sorry. No. That's ridiculous. The grandkids. Shout out to Ram. Yeah, nothing stops. He got rammed. Right in the dingleberries.
Starting point is 01:16:07 You can check out these nominees in our YouTube description. And then don't forget to vote on Dirtyymo Media's X profile. Ask DVC. These questions are submitted by our fans. Randy, so I'm sorry, in advance. What do you remember about your crash at Daytona in 1984? And do you have any artifacts from it or other wrecks? Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:36 What I remember is... Nothing. Yeah. Well, a little bit. Very little. All of the rookie meetings that you had, you know, Petty, Richard was always one of the guys doing it. And he's like, hey, you're going to crash here, Daytona.
Starting point is 01:16:52 two ways. Either you're against the wall and you're going to crash right into the wall and then you're going to slide or you're going to slide a long ways and hit the wall. And there's a couple things you need to do. Before you hit the wall, remember to tighten your belts. And if you remember to take a deep breath because it'll blow the air right out of you. So I remember coming out of turn four, we had blown a couple motors up, a home-built motors. We bought a motor from Richard Petty, oh, Kenny Wilson motor. And I thought we had a broke axle
Starting point is 01:17:27 because I'm spinning the tires, warming up the car. You know, for the 125. And I was like, what the heck is going on here? Well, that sucker had some power. Boy, that thing had some power. So I, okay, you put it to the floor and hang on. And that's what I did. And I remember I come up on Sterling Marlin.
Starting point is 01:17:44 He was in that 17 Hesco car, and I was going to run over him. Well, I turned left, hit the bump, started sliding, and I'm sliding. I was like, okay, I think it's time to pull the belts tight. And I pulled the belts tight. And my dad always taught me never to let go to the wheel. So I grabbed that steering wheel.
Starting point is 01:18:02 And when the thing picked up and I started looking at the sky, I said, okay, I need to take a deep breath. And I didn't wake up. Yeah, I did. And I woke up in the hospital that night when I started to remember. And I was like, holy shit, you know, watching. the news and that's me oh my god you know okay i think i feel okay you know had a headache for ever and uh i went back to the track that was the thursday i went back to the track on saturday
Starting point is 01:18:33 watching the bush race and a fireman come up to me he was all decked out and fire gears you know i am i said no i don't he's well we're at your car you know we got you out of the car and they'd laid you on the stretcher he says and you weren't you weren't breathing he said you were just laying there i said okay and then what He says, the microphone, open face helmet, the microphone was stuck in my mouth. He says, I reached in to get the microphone out of your mouth. And when I did, he goes, hell, I pulled a column of grass about the size of a tennis ball out of your mouth. And he says, and I did that.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Your eyes opened up and you started moving. Holy shit. I said, so, hell, I was vapor locked there for a little while. That looks good right there, bud. Yeah. Wow. So I did take a deep breath. Your vertical.
Starting point is 01:19:15 You're vertical. You're usually, I think we try to stay horizontal. I still have the helmet. The helmet has a scratch on it From one of those pieces of tin Ray Everham was sitting in the IROC garage And a windshield landed in the IROC garage Yeah, he said it was amazing
Starting point is 01:19:31 The grass is crazy I've never heard anything like that That was a brutal wreck Hold on before we move on I'll have my own to ask TVC Give me your best buckshot story If you don't know There may have been a small rivalry between
Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah I mean we just kept running in each other You know, and he said it started over a rental car thing at Talladega, which I might have. But here we were, Talladega, in line. We had a head of steam, and I was never a big buckshot fan. So, okay, he's in front of me. And if I'm going to get her, I backed up my line, you know, down the backstretch, I trail break, trail break. Okay, they got out, okay, I'm going to get him around the tri-oval. And going into one.
Starting point is 01:20:16 And I said, okay, you had it all planned, and we were coming. The train was coming, and he jumped up in front of me. Somebody was going to wreck. I mean, because I said, okay, I'm not lifting. Because if I was lifting, the guy behind me wasn't. And so I got him, and he went off to the infield. No big deal. Well, after the race, we're going along.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I run out of gas, I think twice during the race. I'm not sure what happened there, but run out of gas. So I really wasn't happy. Ended at a race. I put my helmet up. loosen the belts going down to backstretch, going into turn three. He comes off the apron and T-bones me. And I was like, you son of a God.
Starting point is 01:20:59 And it started. That's not what you said. Right now, yeah, correct. So, I mean, we were pretty, ever since then, I mean, okay, he got me there, said I caused it. We go to Bristol. Bristol, here I am. We're watching the scoring monitor.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I'm running fifth. Caution comes out. What happened? I had Buckshot turned somebody. And there's all of the guys he turned, pick group, you know, flipping him off. Well, okay, I see him up to the ninth on the list. Okay, get going. Another caution.
Starting point is 01:21:30 McLaughlin's guy, big guy. Everybody's there flipping him. What happened there? Buckshot, you know, got into this guy. I said, oh, imagine that. Okay. And I always told him. I said, don't, you hit me once.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I'm going to hit you twice. Just don't hit me. You know, it was probably a little bit of jealousy because they had really good cars, really good team. You know, and he had a pretty good gimmicks. A lot of T-shirts. So I was like, okay, he'd come in, he got into my left rear, moved me up. I said, this, sucker, I ain't.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Okay. So he moved me up in three and four, and he come right up in front of me. And right to start, finish line, I got to his bumper. And we went into three. I don't know. I think my gas pedal stuck, you know, and it sent him a little bit faster than he wanted to go, and he backed it in the fence. And the spotter says, Randy, better look out.
Starting point is 01:22:17 He's looking for you. So I tried hiding alongside of Presley was in front of me. So I tried to hide on the outside of Presley. He wouldn't let me up. So, okay, I gave myself some room, and he gassed it up going down to backstitch. He looked like a gremlin. The thing was tailgate on the ground. And he gassed it up.
Starting point is 01:22:35 And I was like, oh, shit, I gassed mine up. He misses me and drove straight into the fence. The place went nuts. It was insane. I mean, we hauled out of there. I mean, Corey and Casey, they hauled us out of here with the state cop. I'd say, this is pretty cool. You know?
Starting point is 01:22:53 And the souvenir people from Buckshot, they thanked me the next week. They said, we sold out of souvenirs. Thanks a lot. Then he got me at Nazareth, junked me at Nazareth, junked me at New Hampshire. And I was like, oh, boy, oh, boy. It never ended. No. Well, it happens.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Always one guy. Yeah. Still does to this day. Oh, yeah. All right. DBC picks. you pulled off a win. Duh.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Having Blaney. I was close. Joe Lugan will let me down, though. Who goes first? Probably Tommy finished last, it sounds like. Yeah. Busher. I'll go with Chris Bush.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Busher at Vegas. Who's next? Probably me. Carson, yeah. I am going to take... Shit. I don't think he's racing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:46 C-Vell. C Bell. I ran, you can pick anybody off this list that's not grayed out on yours. So, like, this is the purple column. Yep. And then whoever's not, like, highlighted. So, you got to go with Lugano, I think. There you go.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I mean, he's, that's a place where he's been really, really good. I don't know who the hell I'm going to pick. I'm going to take. I'll take Ty Gipps. Okay. Wow. I'll run the hot streak for a little while. See if he's got anything.
Starting point is 01:24:14 We didn't do Waken. Well, we're getting ready to. I don't know. It's always at the end, buddy. Weekend winners. Always at the end. Yeah, let's see. I got a big list here. Tommy, you got anybody you want to shout out that stood out to you this weekend?
Starting point is 01:24:26 Danny Bone, smart tour, beat Luke. Harry put a number on him. Luke was on a pole, right? Qualified Paul. Set fast time and finished second. It was a good race for him. Jack struggled a little bit, a little too tight. But, yeah, Danny Bone won that.
Starting point is 01:24:40 I really enjoyed all week. Golden Islands, the late models. We talked about it earlier, but what great racing, man. That I felt. So Davenport won Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Devon Mirren came to Wednesday, Thursday. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And then Devin won Saturday from, I think, 22nd.
Starting point is 01:24:55 But shout out to that kid, Trey Mills. He was putting on a show on Saturday night. And he just kind of overcooked it to one that time and flipped up on top of the wall. And I hate the people gave Davenport so much shit for beating, tying Blune Quest and beating them and saying about all these half races. It's like, come on, man. give the guys do. I mean, yes, Bloomquest is one of the best there is, but Davenport's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I really appreciated Davenport getting out and doing the old cross job. You know, like that's so far out of his personality, I feel like, for him to get out and do that was really fun. Carson Brown wins that arc of race. I do want to give a shout out. We've been critical on him here before. McKee could have wiped him out in that last corner, got in there. It could have easily just, like, chase it up into him, didn't do it. Ran the right race.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Didn't run him over obviously his teammate, so he's going to give him maybe a little more slack. But I thought they did it the right way. flatjack motorcycle. I saw Cody Cop won his debut. This was on Flow. Everything we were watching this week was on Flow, basically. Davenport we talked about was on Flow. And if you want to watch Flow, you can go to FlowSports. Link slash Door Bumper Clear to sign up and get 15% off. Yeah, absolutely. Austin Wood won the Silver Cup at Silver Dollar, also on Flow. Donnie Shots.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Comes back and wins. Did he? Yeah, he won Friday Night at Talladega. Awesome. Yeah. So that was why. I've seen him lead, and then I probably fell asleep. But I was good for Donnie. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, just that stuff with, like, that guy, I mean, just a legend of the sport to come back.
Starting point is 01:26:25 And new team this year and they go out and win, I don't even know what, the third or fourth race out. Just really awesome to see. What's the future hole for Randy LaJoy? Can you keep building seats? I hope to be. Yeah. Keep having grandkids. Yeah, your grandkids, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Grandkids are us. Yeah. And they are so much. where I see one's going to be six in two days. Wow. I call him Mo Larry and Curley. And they get so male, I'm not Mo,
Starting point is 01:26:51 I'm not Larry. Oh, it's a good time. It is, it is a, what's different is, you know, you get customers come into the shop.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Okay, Lugano brought Hudson in, you know, last year. And he's like, oh my God, this place hasn't changed in 30 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:08 You know, he's like, I think I might have put the hole in a wall because Corey would have a, with all a kids, It's Bubba and Skip and all that. All those guys. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Oh, he did. That's right. Skip, he did win. He won't carry away. That's that car been in your shop? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, he's finally getting a shop now.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Yeah, he's finally. Yeah. So he's in his own shop. But set up, he comes to the plate. I know. I forget where he was going, Randy's like, I don't know, some bitches in my shop all night. Like, they're working on the thing until three in the morning. Oh, that TQ.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Oh, that TQ's his little baby. Yeah, he did. He did a good job. I mean, he did a good job at Smyrna. Yeah. It went down to Smyrna. And I mean, the guy that he was racing didn't like it. But, you know, it's racing, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:53 And sometimes, you know, sometimes you're the windshield. Sometimes you're the bug. Amen. Yeah, for sure. Thank you guys for listening. Randy, thank you for coming by. We appreciated it. I hope you enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:28:04 We'll try drag your ass back in here time to time. It's always good to see Big Ran. Again, again, thank you guys, 400 episodes deep. hopefully we do another 400 more Have you been everyone? No, no I took over I don't know somewhere probably After a hundred or so
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