Door Bumper Clear - TJ's Back & The Southern 500: Is Briscoe the Favorite?

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

TJ Majors joins Freddie Kraft, Tommy Baldwin, and Karsyn Elledge on today’s episode of Door Bumper Clear. TJ picks up right where he left off, immediately bringing the energy with some light-hearted jabs at the DBC crew. They debate if Chase Briscoe’s Southern 500 win makes him a legit Championship contender, Chandler Smith’s comments on perfecting his craft, and penalties should have been given out on the final restart in Portland. Later in the show, one of the best S***show Hall of Fame segments of the year, Reaction Theatre has Tommy hot under the collar, and which Playoff drivers should be hitting the panic button after Darlington. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. Called me Frat Freddy the other day in a group tag. Or he just misspelled fat. Either way, he can kiss my ass. Let's fight, let's get it over with, let's knock each other out, and let's move on. I think he's a whiny. That's what I think. Next thing you know, I got no fire seat on.

Routy Nation fans are getting lucky tonight. You want to have gimmicks. Let's go all out. I would never, and here they come, never and like they never have before. I did not for you Mother fucking Hey everybody I'm TJ Majors

Spotter What the fuck What the fuck? Say you're a fucking show no more Hey man Sorry I'm You abandoned us And you can't come back in here

And fucking just think you Take it back over again I probably can Oh my I probably can Welcome back Welcome back What's up everybody

Welcome to Door Bumper Clear As always I'm Freddie Crafts Spotter for Bubba Wallace And Gio zero this week. I had nothing to do with Dean Thompson. I've seen a lot of text messages. I don't know if Dean had a bad day out there or what. But it wasn't your fault this time. I just kind of slept too far up on them. I kind of I text the guy they said a wire and a dash burn dump, so I don't know what the problem on Dean's end was.

But joining me as always, my co-host Tommy France, I mean Baldwin. That's actually pretty good. I like that. That is some bullshit, man. Do you get that a lot? No. No. You know what I see you. I don't know if you've been listening, but Tom. He just picked up the mantle of TJ, you know, like the NASCAR defenders. Oh, okay. Welcome to the club, Tommy, France. Yeah. Jesus Christmas.

How are you, Tom? I'm doing. Have you done any driving this week? Oh, my God. Yeah, I figured out it was 14 and a half hours in two days. So to break it down, you race Friday night, right? Race Friday night down in coastal plains down by Emerald Island. and then woke up 4.30

Saturday morning drove to Darling for practice and qualifying. Got back in my truck, drove back down to Emerald Island to Carteret, Speedway, and raced, and then got up yesterday and drove back to Donaldlton. At least it was worth it on Saturday night. Yeah, I think you got the one. How did he do? Jack finished fifth on Friday. Luke struggled, and then Luke won Saturday and Jack finished second.

That was cool. One, two, Baldwin finish. It was awesome, awesome. And Saturday was that? Carteret. Okay, how was that track? I've ever been there. Both tracks.

That Coastal Plains, Carteret, they're really clean. That Carteret, great crowd every year. They do a good show there, man. They got a lot of cool things going on. It's down right by the beach. And people, the fans enjoy it, man. It's a fun show. That's a good weekend.

Like, that's a cool week for you guys. We need to have more of those. You know, short tracks need to have more doubles. It's cost effective and you have a lot of fun. And it seems like the racing's a little bit cleaner. especially on the first night because everybody knows that, you know, they have to race the second night, so you have some really good race. Carson, I know you had a big event down in Florence.

I got to thank you for taking care of me to come and hang out with you guys. Hey, I got a question for you. What? If you were athletic, what sport would you play? Wow, you were hard on some people. Well, I was saying, like, the funny part about it is, like, that's how I talk to them regularly. So, like, oh, she's natural. I'm like, yeah.

She's naturally how. So what's the part would you be? You gotta give us an Ager. Probably volleyball. Volleyball, really? I did play a lot of sports when I was younger, but I have old bones now. How was your... 25.

You have no idea what... Yeah, you're in for a long haul. I thought the show, I could see... I was hanging out in the pit area for a little while, and during maybe the legend car race or the Banderloa race, I could see some smoke starting to come out of Kip's ears because I felt like they were running a little behind schedule. But it seemed like everything went off, especially, you know, during the two races,

your two races, the pro. Pro race kind of flew by. It seemed like there was only one or two cautions. And then, you know, a bit of a shit show with the tow truck being towed off by the other tow truck. Oh, my God. That was so far. Yeah, that was at the horns.

That was awesome. I'm not going to lie. The best part was the driver and the passenger still being in the truck just going down the front straightway. The guy in the passenger, he was waving at the fans. We were in the booth with Steve. Zacharias and we were like, hey, can you get, we can answer a question for us?

So it was the cleanup truck, technically, not the tow truck. Did you know it ran out of gas? Really? Is that what it was? It didn't break down. It ran out of gas. One of the guys in the booth thought that the battery died. But so it's on the back of a flatbed. And I'm like, Steve, if somebody blows a motor, are we just going to leave the cleanup truck on the flat bed?

Like, TJ's like, yeah, just tilt the bed up and we'll let this shit run out. I was actually just going to, I was going to joke with Tommy here and be like, yeah, they had an oil spill and they left. They tip the bed up and see if Tommy would believe us. Hey, but you know what? We were done by 1030. It was early. It was good.

I was actually surprised at how fast, like, the show went. I think, did you go to the 400 last year there? No, I haven't been. That was one that went like, oh, that was late. Yeah. Yeah. But, no, the show flowed well and see how to flow. Yeah.

Thank you, guys. It was all me. It did. It flowed good. The racing was good. The track always, the way it widens out. and the different grooves you can run are always like,

it's just a good race track. I tell you he wasn't very good. Oh, I know, because he qualified good. Maybe the trend is if he qualifies good, he's going to run like shit. Yeah, because last time, last year there, at the end of the year, he qualified like 84th and out of 43.

Drove to the front. I think he needs a longer race. It was weird, you know, and listen, watching it a couple times on, I don't want to talk about this race forever because Alex's probably freaking out in there. But like, the tire wear wasn't what I thought it was going to be. Like it seemed like tireware wasn't as bad as...

No, they changed... They're in a different tire this year. Yeah, it's an F-45, but not the same one that it used to be. Yeah, it's like a harder tire, and now you can't save tire. Now the old guy can't save tires and drive up at the end. Now he's got to run hard. He probably got tired. I mean, to be honest.

I will say the pace of that race from the beginning was insane. It was fashion I expected. Yeah. Anyway, TJ, how you been, buddy? I mean, has life at the other table. I mean, it's not bad. It's pretty fun, yeah. It's fun when, uh, it's fun when, um,

Dudjinger stops talking for a minute. We can get some words in every now and then. I was going to say most clips I see. You're not talking. Yeah, he tends to get rambling on, but it's fun. We have a good time. And I usually find a successful show when I can get him to cuss at me. And that's what my goal is most time.

Every week. When I get him wound up, he normally goes on rants and stuff, and he really gets going. So that's my goal. That's funny. Season, obviously, it doesn't make the playoffs. It's been a rough year. It's been a rough year for you guys. Yeah.

I think, you know, somebody put out a thing last week that, like, plus and minus, you know, the points. And Brad was obviously much, I think he was probably the biggest point loss from one year to the next. So, I mean, and it's a lot of it's just been out of control. Well, I wrecked him the first, like, six races of the season. So that probably didn't help. I mean, I mean, we're at Daytona twice. I mean, we went through two or three cars of Daytona and Atlanta wrecked. Phoenix, the big wreck off of two.

We got, I mean, none of us. We T-Bone Chase. Atlanta when he wrecked in front of us. We were just driving into stuff. Yeah, mainly me. It's good work. Yeah, sounds like they need a new spot. I'm surprised I was still there. What did you take like a month and a half off? Well, then I went to Darlington the first race this year

and ended up getting a tour of the emergency room for a few days and got ahead and extended stay. And that led to having about a month off. So I missed Mexico, which is terrible. I hated. I missed that one. I was like, I was like, I probably would end up in an emergency you know, like honestly that was, you know,

Brad was very adamant that I was going to have the surgery in December. I ended up having it in May, but it was November. I think I was going to have it. But when Darlington hit, it was like, okay, well,

luckily you're not too far from home if some, you know, but Brad's like, look, don't quit messing with it. Like, just get it done. And you don't want to go to a place like Mexico or somewhere and,

or anywhere, really, any, and have an issue and be stuck somewhere. So, uh, no, it's been,

you know, Once we came, you know, I got back at Pocono and I sent Brad down her close pit road. Yeah, you're pretty spot on this year. Yeah, no. I mean, yeah. I don't think glasses matter. Jesus. Yeah, I don't think glasses matter.

Your ears clean. I mean, what? What? It's been rough, though. But we have had a pretty good last month and a half couple months, so we've had really good speed. We're in contention to win at Iowa. Well, if we didn't have the nine cautions in a row there, I think we probably have a really good shot of winning that race. And there's two or three others in there that we were really competitive at.

And we always have a really good summer, it seems like. And then last night was, I mean, we battled back to a 15th from being two down, sometimes three down during a pit cycle. You're pretty lucky to get back to 15. Yeah, you said you guys had problems on pit road where you had to come back in and kind of do the double pit stop and then serve a penalty, like just set you back so far. Yeah, especially as hard as it was a pass. last night that, you know, you're just to battle back to where you were. I don't even know if we saw you last night. Did we were maybe once?

No, I don't think so. Or if we did, you'd know it because we probably wouldn't have ran India, I would assume. Yeah, we would probably have hit. Yeah, that's a good point. It's been a while. I mean, and talk about that from your standpoint. Obviously, we'll get to chase dominating the race here in a little bit and spot on, spot off. But, you know, I don't, it's weird to me because there was some racing going on.

But again, it was, even with the fall off where it was, it was still. super hard to pass for us, even for us towards the front, how was it mid or back to the back? I was really hard, but you, like, there was probably a little bit more, there was a little bit more coming to go in there, like you could Brad say, Brad's pretty good about not

using his tires up in the first 15 laps of a run. So we were able to make some moves. We actually had really good speed and we were able to make some passes, but where we were at, you weren't really, you weren't really pass and you know, really, really, really good cars. We, once we, we would pit and go through cycle and we would come out and be past an eighth place car and so I knew our car had good speed but

it was not I don't feel like there was as much fall off probably as what I you know I don't know there wasn't as much separation in the cars every time I glanced around it was like the field was pretty much the same yeah I felt like we had fall off but we all had fall off like together together and it never you never really could manage your stuff Tommy I know you know obviously you're on a different side of it. But, you know, even like taking somebody like Danny for account, like he had a bad pit stop. We know how good that car was early in the race. He was up there battling with the 19. He gets, you know, it's a bad pit stop. He comes out last essentially, you know, off that pit cycle. So he restarts mid-20s, I would say. And it really took him all race to get

back into the top 10. You know, you can see him kind of methodically picking off one car, two cars on a run, but it's just so hard to pass it. Is that just arrow at this place because it's so narrow? Well, once you get, once we all got to probably lap 20, 25, the whole feel is pretty much the same times, right? Give it take a couple tenths. So that's when it was so, you know, so hard to pass. So the trick was who was going to pit early and who was going to pit a little bit later to either try to gain positions, you know, on the late end or on the early end.

So it was a couple different interesting strategies in the beginning of the race with, you know, the 42 shows. Yeah, good job by them. Yeah, I mean, they're the only ones that made it work. The other one, I think the 99. 99 did not make it work. did not make it work. So, yeah, they had a good night, the 42. A little num chucked.

They're good there. But, yeah, it was pretty, it was, I thought it was an okay race. I thought the end was, was shaping up to be a pretty good race. And Reddick really tried at the end there. Just couldn't get enough to the side of them to kind of move them up a little bit. You need to drive in a little bit harder. Yeah, I don't. Kind of like you did with Chris Busher.

Yeah. Well, he said, he said he. learned. Learned from the last time, so he didn't want to do it again. Chase isn't as big as Chris, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's still bigger than Reddick, if I had to guess. Most people are, there.

You know, what I think I need. You're big toes bitter bigger than Rick. I needed it to stay about 630, I think, for the entire night, and I think we would have had a really good shot. Our shit was hauling ass at the beginning. Numb Numb Nuts kind of did drive in defense a little bit harder than he needed to at one point. And from that point on, I think we were hurt a little bit. I haven't heard for sure if we had damage.

or not, but I could tell like one time there was twice yesterday I really wanted to smack the shit out of him because he he's, I said something about what's going on around us like pace wise and who's running where and whatnot he says, I'm good, I'm just riding here literally goes into one and two the next corner and fucking smokes the wall and I'm like, okay, great, perfect.

And then there was another time John Hunter was kind of bonzine the bottom just trying to get to our left record. Shocker. And I said, all right, 42's just bonzine. He's getting about half back in the center. He's like, I ain't worried about him. And literally, I said, all right, inside off of two. like twice just he was out of I mean after the race

he was saying he won the Indy 500 and yeah it's like Bub are you okay where'd you end up sixth that's really good I mean I think we had

fourth place fourth best points I've just really we talked about just just if you could have a clean day get stage points in both stages and now I think we're plus 25 over the cut line

so that puts us in a good spot moving forward obviously you can't have any issues you still got to do the same thing we were talking about Bubba's been saying base hits, just base hits get us through this round. So we don't need any home runs. And I could see yet last night, like we're running AJ down at the end,

which again, AJ really, really good race for them guys, top five. It was an odd race for the top, some of the top 10 with AJ up there, like all night, both legacy cars. Yeah. Which Eric's always been really good at that place. And they were, but they were both hauling ass. But as I could see Bubba like creeping in. And it was like, in years past, I'd be worried that like, we're going to throw away this six place finish trying to get a top five.

And it's just like, hey, buddy, remember base hits? We don't need sick. We don't need one point. Don't throw away 20 of them for one. So it was been a really good night. Executed really well. We had one mishap on pit road where I fucking, I thought the 38 was the pickle car and the 34 was the other car. And I lost them coming down pit road.

And we just timed it to where our green flag stopped. We're leaving as they were coming in. We kind of ran side by side out, but we didn't lose much, but maybe two spots. Truck race. Heim. So pretty good. Yeah. I mean, there's not much else to say about that.

He didn't slow down. after making playoffs. I mean, that's for sure. I think Lane, I thought Lane was pretty close or as good, you know, long run-wise. I think Lane was probably the fastest truck. He was, but, you know, it's just that 11 team, they just, the whole day, they just look calm, right? You see the other guys go, you know, in the back, and the other guys just chugging right along, man. And next thing.

He doesn't overdo it. Like, just didn't make any mistakes. He was there at the end. He let, like you said, let everybody around them make mistakes. Yeah. I mean, it's a good race team. I mean, a solid little Zippy. You can tell.

Little Zippy does a really good job over there. Lane still has that want to try, still want to win, lead every lap that he can, and sometimes that'll bite you still. He ended up getting in the fence, right? And put the tire or something. Yeah. Yeah. That happened a few times.

Yeah. Next, I mean, they're going to battle this year. Don't get me wrong, you know, that truck. But he's going to have a winter, I think, to think about this year, right? Just like he did. Tell my lane. Yeah. The year before.

Right. Look at the growth he's done this year. From the beginning of this year, though. Yeah. Like, where was it, Nashville and somewhere else where he, like, two weeks in a row, Wilkesboro, remember he was getting into, like, side jobbing, but not really completing it? Yeah, that team is going to be the team to beat next year. It's, I don't know if anybody's going to beat the 11 truck this year. I mean, there's too solid.

They're going to have to have a mistake. From top to bottom, they are just a well-oiled machine, man. I mean, it could happen, like, what was it last year? Was it last year in the trucks or no? You hear two years ago. When did he get taken out? That was two years ago. Two years ago.

Yeah. Was it a hostvar? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's no. Imagine that. I know. I'm shocked.

He was the 42 driver then, Tom, not the 70s. Yeah. But he, like, it's going to take something like that to derail that. Yeah. You know. The, I wanted to choke my poor driver on Saturday, whatever day. That was Saturday.

Poor G. ran if that race was 147 laps he ran a 143 flawless laps and unfortunately got into three a little too hot race in the 98 trying to defend fourth or fifth place he ran top five literally the whole race finished fifth post stages and just overcooked it one time in the three gets in the fence ends up right front going down I don't even know where that was finished first time there right yep first race there I mean he did a really really good job executed pit road all day long like there's a lot of shit that goes into that place and just to have such a good ad I tried to harp on that like Like I said after the race, I said, I would like to choke the shit out of you right now. But don't harp on, I said, take that mistake, learn from it, be better next time we come back here. But it was, don't hang your head on that one mistake. Don't let it ruin your entire day that you did unbelievably well. So, but yeah, I was, I was ready to kill him at the end of that race. I think slugger on.

Are you already there that you can say those things? I mean, you only four five. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. I told them for day one when we met, I said, listen, I mean, I'll be your best friend, but I'm also going to be your harshest critic. And, you know, it was, it was, that's it's it. You know, if you're not honest with these people, then you're not, you're doing them an injustice, you know.

And, and he's a good kid. He takes criticism well. He knows, he's like, sorry, man. And it's like, I was like, man, I'm just fucking with you. You know, when I said, I'm a joke. But, you know, it's just, he's still a young kid. You got to remember these guys are all, I don't even know. It's just his birthday there.

They don't even know how old he is, 18, 19, probably something like that. Yeah, I think he's like 19. But, yeah, just good. I mean, good kid, really super talented race car driver. And he'll be, I think he'll win races next year. It's another one that's going to take all winter long It's amazing what a winter does off To allow to these good race court drivers

And I think he'll be good next year as well It's in fast trucks Yeah, which help for sure A lot of actually go back to the cup race I don't know that anybody didn't have a problem In the playoffs last night You want to step it in 19 19 well yeah

He didn't have a problem He got the fence a little bit I saw the right side was scuffed up Which everybody gets in the fence there But TJ what you think Coming off a turn two on the first lap well I had a lot of time to think about it before we got there so I was uh we uh we didn't have we had a problem in qualifying but so we were back pretty far

I saw it happen right when it did and I mean first of it caught me off guard because you don't think them the top in the front like that are going to wreck but you know I when I saw it happen I was like oh boy and it was like in a spot where it could have it could have easily got a lot more cars it was amazing it didn't yeah no I was actually impressed that everybody kind of got through it like they did Yeah, I think the only car with pretty significant damage ended up being the 21. Yeah, I don't know what spotter was like directly behind him, but whoever that guy was, he did amazing. I think he just bottomed out, probably. He did.

He said after he looked at the in-car camera of Chastain and he's... And that sucks for the... I mean, Josh really talented race car driver, obviously, you know, and he's good there. He qualifies good. That's a place that kind of lends itself into Josh's strengths. Like, he's good there. Taking care of tires and managing the race, and it just sucks that they qualified so good. and now, you know, that you're putting yourself in position to maybe have a night.

Like we had last night where you come out of there 15, 20 points to the good. And now he's, I don't even know how many points out he is, but I'm sure he's last. I need to apologize to John Wood because I saw him before the race. And I was like, man, I think you guys could have a really good run here. And last time I saw him was Richmond. And they had a good run in Richmond. And I was like, I think you can do it again here. And I'm like, if you win, you better text me.

And he's like, oh, I'll be texting you. I got a text. I got text not long out of that. Did it say fuck you? Something like that. Not quite that harsh. I decided I hope your grass is good. What did you think?

What did you make of Hendrick Motorsports cars last night? I mean, it seemed like obviously Bowman had his own struggles. That was separate of that. They had a bad pit stop and they just never. Yeah, but they weren't really. They were, I mean, they were going to run in the back. Anyway, they were like early in that run. The first run I saw them towards the back.

Like they were going to be one of the first group of, you know, we were going to lap. And then, yeah, he was really early to pit road. And then they obviously had problems on the second pit stop, I think. But as a whole, they just, you know, Byron led, but I think he won both stages. I think he won both stages, led like 250 laps there in the spring. You know, and then they come back and they're just kind of a, you know, average car all day long. We passed. We passed the five, the 24, right at the near about last 15 laps, something like that.

We passed them. They were nine as well. They were all falling off pretty hard. I don't know if the track, they looked, they looked okay in the beginning. Like, I mean, not like win the race. More competitive. Yeah, they were competitive. But, like, I don't know if when the track, the sun went down, they, they got.

got worse as it went along there or something because they definitely weren't. Yeah, that's true because the five kind of was matching us early in the race. And then I never really saw it again after a couple of the pit cycles. 24 was what, between 8th and 12th most of the time there somewhere in that area? Yeah. I think we'll get to pit road later. There's some shit shows there, especially one in particular. Portland, old fucking Zilovich, your boy does it again.

One-armed bandit, even winning races. Goes through the barricades and still wins. Yeah, we will definitely get to that and spot off. Good Lord. He had plenty of friends when he did it. Actually, he was the only one that went through the barricades. The only guy that ran the racetrack is he. He's in here right now.

I mean, and he gets penalized. Thursday was an interesting day on social media regarding the old lawsuit, Freddie. I thought I was catching an episode of rare breeds there for a second. There was some text messages flying back and forth. No, not yet. I'm coming soon. Coming soon. Some interesting messages there, too.

Yeah. Obviously, I don't know. Obviously, I can't talk a lot about it. But Tommy, there was definitely some interesting back and forth coming from both sides of that deal. Sounds like Big Al's conversations. Yeah. If either party thinks they're going to win right now. That's basically what the judge said.

Yeah, I mean, it's just like it's 50-50, it seems like. I mean, you hear things. Then you ask questions to some people and you walk away, go, hmm. You talk to other people, you hear things, you're like, hmm, like you, I mean, it's, oh, I know. Yeah. Do you think they're leaning towards, do you think it's getting further from settling? I think. Or does it get just so bad where they're like, look, why are we doing this?

I think you have two sides that are very strong-willed groups, and then you have two lawyers that have gone against each other many, many times in these type of situations and don't like each other. and I unfortunately I think it's going to get worse a lot worse before it may be going to get better I don't think personally if it goes to trial I don't think anybody is really going to win win so we'll see I mean NASCAR has a lot to lose right according to the judge's comments he could do anything he wants to do where he wants right and the our sport could change because of this lawsuit. So maybe that's what the other side wants, right, for it to change.

Obviously, that's why they're suing and didn't sign the agreements. But it's pretty interesting at NASCAR now is, I think, holding those six charges until after the lawsuit now. You know, the judge asked them to think about that and they did. So now it's like what they're going to do with that party that they say wants to buy one. And, you know, it's always my impression that those charters, the extra charters from 37 to 40, were always going to be held for new manufacturers. That's, you know, in our meetings in the beginning of building this charter agreement

and forming these charters, that's what we all probably, I think we all agreed on. That's what we wanted them for is for new manufacturers to come in, you know, to, you know, hopefully, you know, dodge like they're coming to. to save those for new teams and do the things that need to be done. But it's going to be interesting, man. I just hope it all comes to everybody meets in the middle and we can move on. Yeah, there was two things that one quote that had two things in it that I have a question for each of you on. First of all, let's start with the cost efficiency of the new car.

Full of shit. Are you happy now? I'm happy I'm not france in it. It's full of shit. I mean, it's not. It hasn't saved. No. Anything, essentially. No. These things are so expensive.

I mean, look, we have less people now, right? But they, well, they think we have less people, but those, maybe we got rid of fabricators. But now we had to move those number of people to the engineering side. Yeah, now you got more engineers. Right? Then we have to spend more money on engineering tools. And then the cars get wrecked. And, you know, one wreck is a potential $100,000 wreck. You know, it's just a normal service.

You're not making me feel any better over here. Yeah, well, you're, yeah. Think about all the money you've cost R.K. this year. A normal service every week without any damage is $25,000. A normal service. Just replacing the parts that it get worn out, you know, at the bottom of the car, the fenders, you know, the noses need to get replaced almost every race because of the pitting.

And, you know, you just... It's just, it's... I don't know, then. And for the racing side of a T.J., I don't know. I don't know how we can say I mean some of the racing has been good but I can't say that it's any better than what we had before

like just this new car versus the last card it's just different it's got it there is some good parts there is some good racing with this car there are there are some TJ Franks well I mean we have had some good races

you know but they're it's going to continue to evolve I hope a little bit maybe they're I know they're always working on it and looking to try to improve different, you know, like short tracks and stuff. There's been a lot of, there's been a lot of things done, and I hope they just continue to evolve and make it better. And I think there's, I do, we did talk about this on the show a couple weeks ago that, you know,

Richmond was crazy, it was a good race, but I asked, you know, I asked Dell Jr., like, he thought it was an amazing race. But if you, why was it amazing? Because we had cars running so much different speeds at times, like different, different strategies and stuff. If everyone was locked in with each other, are they really going to be all over each other? And I do wish there was still

some more offensive passing techniques to use, like get taking the air off the guy, spoil it a little bit. I wish you could do things like that still because it's just so hard to pass, man, the guy in front can manipulate the air so bad, and you can really hold a guy off. You need to be three to four tenths

faster than a guy at some of these places to pass them. And it'd be nice to be able to drive down off into the corner and and get to a guy and make him struggle a little bit because that's going to enable a lot more passing. But there are, the car does put on great shows and these drivers are figuring it out. And sometimes I wonder, I wonder if these drivers sometimes are just too good at it, too. They're so good. Loose last night.

Who? Preyce. Never heard of me. He got us loose last night. He might have been loose before he got there. No, no. He got us loose. Oh, yeah.

You're talking about down the back shot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was pretty funny. It was right behind us. It wasn't very funny. It was funny for me. I was laughing only because I have to touch on something else

with you said, I just talked about, but poor Wence was getting screamed at all night up there. That's such a hard place. I don't know what the hell Kraus and the 66 wanted to do running that race because there's nowhere to hide. Like, you know, some mile and a half,

you got four or five lanes to work with you can get the hell out of the way. That place, especially one and two, like, there's nowhere to hide. And there's a numerous times where Cody would kind of enter low and then you'd commit, like you'd see them on the bottom, so you commit to going around the,

outside and then he'd watch up in front of you'd have to stop and Ryan I think I think he got tied off of two in front of Ryan and I think Ryan just was had enough because he had just run us down and that was going to cost him probably any chance of getting us maybe before a stage or something like that but you know the one thing I wanted to talk about with you with evolving I'm afraid that the more we evolve the worst the racing is going to get because we're just unless they have you know some changes to the car because the great the racing was phenomenal I'll bring that old word back while TJ's here, the first year. You know, the mile and a halfs were great, as everybody's learning the car.

But now, Tommy, even a place like this, we see so much off throttle time, so much in the driver's hands, and we're still all over each other running the same damn speeds. Like, the more time we get with this car, are we not just going to get that window even smaller? Yeah, you are. But that's why we're going to have to lean on, you know, the four things that are hitting the racetrack, right? And when we're all buying the same parts and all the people are moving from team to team,

team and all the ideas are getting shared and shared and shared and our engineering tools are getting better, better and better, the cars are going to run the same, same, same. I mean, it is what it is. It's just, we don't have a choice with that, but it's just... But does the racing get better? So, you know, like, you know, JGR, Hendrick, they go to the track. They do their 20-minute practice. Does their car, how much better do they make their car from that? Just ask Chase Briscoe. What? Yeah, they were. Chase Briscoe from last year

driving Stuart Haas stuff Yeah, what the differences are. All right, are you guys done? Can we go to spot on, spot off? One thing. One thing in my note is shout out to Timmy Hill. I mean, that kid had a hell. I'm a kid.

He's probably fucking 30 years old now. But he really good run. He finished 8th Saturday and straight up. Finished 8th. No crazy tire strategy. No bullshit cautions. Just did a really good job. by seeing even, like obviously they don't have the best pit crew.

So he was, I think, six or seven seconds longer on pit road than the guys he was racing and would come back to the field. And he actually ran good there last year. I noticed going back and watching the race from last year, he was a decent, you know, top 15 car or truck. But, I mean, qualified well. He was fastest in practice. Group one is always faster than Group 2 there. But he was fastest in practice.

And then he goes out and performs against the top 10. So good for him. I mean, that's a guy that's always just a good dude in the garage, like hardworking family. They've always put decent stuff. on the racetrack and it's good to see them get rewarded with it. Timmy also is the guy that calls you about your car's extended warranty. He looks like that, don't he?

He's also put the poor guy that came on DVC that time. Remember during COVID? He talked there were, they were all, it was like the ir racing days when we were like during COVID and Timmy made a comment about his small unit and it didn't go well for him on on DVC. He had like a little brinky ding eye racing setup. He's like, yeah, I got a small unit over here. I was like, yeah, that's probably not the word you want to use.

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Spot on. Did you want to go first on this one? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think. Send it. Why me? All right, moving on, spot on, spot off. Chase Briscoe leads over 300 laps to win the Southern 500.

He should be considered a championship contender. Spot on, spot off. TJ, we'll start with you. I'm sure you've missed doing this. I mean, Chase has had a lot of speed this year. I do wonder if the consistis he can stay there all through the playoffs. I think he's proven. I mean, there was a lot of unknowns about Chase going into this.

Will he be able to run as good? And obviously the 19 car has been fast at a lot of these places. and Chase is holding up his end of the deal now. And I feel like he's developing a lot this year. And he's taking advantage of it. And I feel like him and James and the crew are starting to really hit their stride. So I think Chase has a good shot at it. He just needs to, when that race comes around,

when he's going to be an eighth place car, he needs to try to run eighth and take his fifth or sixth, seventh like that and not try to not try to force something and get himself in trouble. And if he can do that and manage him situations, Chase could really make a deep run on this playoff. That car is a really good car. Yeah, I mean, Tommy just dominated. I thought early in the race, they took off.

They, you know, they took off led the race, and they started bleeding early, like maybe 25, 20, 25 laps into that run. Danny ran them down. We started running the both of them down. I think we passed Danny, and then they pit right before we got to them. But he was bleeding. I was like, oh, maybe he's just going to be a short run car tonight, you know, and he's going to be the one that's going to be short pit and trying to build a gap

and you're going to try to run him down. But after that first cycle, I don't think anybody ever saw him again to the very end. He was, you know, he was blistering, fast. in the middle of that race and Tyler ended up getting there at the end of the race. I don't sure how they, a balance affected them later.

I know he had some scuffs on the right side, so I don't know if he maybe hurt the car a little bit, but, I mean, that was just dominance across the board. Yeah, I mean, they executed all night long, right? And it came out first every pit stop, right? I've seen Bozzi tweeted like every pit stop was under 10 seconds or something like that, which is unheard of at that place. Yeah, and now look, hey, now they're looking three weeks down the road now.

Right? Now they're looking, what's the next, the first race. First race for them would be Loudon. All right. So now all focuses on Loudon. So how much better do you think they're going to be? Another good track for the 19. Right?

Yeah. How much better they're going to be just focusing on that car? I mean, I think usually go every, let's see, three, four, maybe five races a car, every team, because the amount of cars we have of preparing. Maybe this car is that New Hampshire car. I don't know how they work, but if it is, they're going to, polish on this thing a little bit more and uh chase needs to work on his end he needs to prepare himself and and do his end of the deal and when they get there be fast from lap one on yeah so they're

going to be there right now and and like if it was me and i'm sure he's you know the crew chiefs doing the same thing it's like all right we're working on new hampshire now and that's all we're going to pay attention to he's good at gateway though yeah he's good i mean they're going to be fine don't don't me wrong. But now the focus is on New Hampshire. Yeah. And in reference to what you were saying, T.J., you know, this kind of validates to his point.

Validates them putting him in his car. You know what I mean? There's two guys this year that I think had to prove something. One was Briscoe. The other one was Priest. Kiss my ass. But they both have done what they're supposed to do this year. And funny thing is, I don't think Priest was very far from possibly getting in this

car. You know, I think that deal was on the table and getting close to being done at some point. It was him, Josh Barry. I mean, it was, yeah, too. I mean, but I think there was. I think they all ended up. But everybody, yeah, where they should be.

But you look at the numbers this year for Chase, you know, six polls, which was ridiculous. If he doesn't screw up three and four a little bit the other day, it's going to be seven. He killed everybody in one and two in qualifying this week. Two wins, 11 top fives this year. I mean, you go back and look at Martin's last couple years. He had 14 top fives combined in the last two years. he had five last year no wins no polls so i mean i he's jumped in this thing and and is actually

outperforming martin who you know was a championship contender it seemed like year in and year out so obviously they hit the nail on the head with chase and you know he's obviously i think he was in a lot of top final fours last week we were talking about it and and he's showing rightfully so he's performed when he when he's supposed to especially like remember when he said he needed to win eight xfinney races then he what did he win yeah i think he won that man with you at least eight yeah and then even in the truck series he was going to to be a championship contender and had a motor issue at Talladega and ended up winning Homestead, you know, that year, I mean, the motor deal kept him out of the, bumped him out, and still won

Homestead. So he could have been, he's been in contention for championships in every series that he's ran. He's pretty good. Yeah. And he's a good dude. I don't think he gets, I don't think he's gotten quite the credit probably because of his past few years where he was and stuff. I don't think he's gotten quite the credit, you know, to how good he probably can be. Yeah. For sure. Sure. Chandler Smith says, quote, we're in steel-bodied race cars, and when you get into the fence that hard, you cut a tire, you're done for the day. You're used to Xfinity cars where you can actually go out there and learn and run the fence and develop your craft, end quote. We just asked T.J., but T.J. seems like he has opinions already. Don't hit the wall.

Thomas, Thomas, what do you think? I mean, yeah, I mean, T.J. is right. I mean, your craft, the development, your craft is not running in the wall. But I think the point he's trying to prove, not prove, but what he's trying to say is that every time you do touch the wall with the truck, you end up with a right front down. It's getting a little bit, it is getting a little bit ridiculous with those trucks. And they definitely need the composite stuff on them to help.

Now, composite stuff does help, say, It does help the race teams. It saves them money for sure. It's a little bit of an expense in the beginning to get all the trucks up and going. But if you put composite bodies on those trucks, they are going to save, and you're going to have less issues. You're going to have less cautions. You're going to have less damage on your trucks. It's going to be more cost effective for the team.

So I think that's what he was trying to drive. But, I mean, to learn your craft. I want to be able to drive into the defense and not penalize for it? I don't think that's correct. side of Corey Hamshark look like. Yeah. It's clean, right? It's pretty clean.

Did he win? I wonder, oh, that's how you do that. Yeah. It's just, that's, you know, that's what you're dealt with. Like you said, TJ,

like this is a focus thing, too. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That was a little early to be yeah, perfecting your craft. Just,

just so you know. I don't know what lap that was, but it was early, yeah. It was really early. I mean, it was in the first 10, 15 laps, I thought.

you know, like you said, it's, there's got to be penalties. Like, if you know what, you got to know what you're driving. Like, you know he was in the Xfinity, which is funny because when I spotted for him in Xfinity car, he wouldn't never get near the fucking wall. So I wish he would have learned his crap. Are he getting there, Josh Barry? Yeah. But, you know, he, I get, like you said, I get what he's saying, but you got to know what

you're driving. And you know, you got to know that you can't, in that truck, you can't touch the wall. And he, unfortunately, overstepped it. You know, Gio did the same thing. We saw a lot of guys. Honeycutt, I think cut a tire before you think he ran something over and from the 38 wreck. But, you know, 34 got into fence. He had an issue. You just got to know, like you said. And it's Tommy, is there something you can do to help that?

Or is it hurt your truck too much performance-wise to... Well, you lift earlier for the corner, Freddie. I'm just talking about, like, with the truck itself. Like, there's nothing you can do really to make it easier, like, to they will withstand any kind of contact. You can do. zero. You know what? You know what he's going to do next time there?

He's not going to, he's not going to barrel it off in there and take them risks next time. And to me, that's perfecting your craft at that point. Do you think he will? I think he'll learn from it. I would hope so.

I would hope so. I mean, but that's, I know he doesn't like it at the time, but he's going to, he's putting that in his memory bank and he's going to learn from that. So that's perfecting, you know, to me that's perfecting your craft still.

Yep. All right. No penalties were handed out for multiple drivers missing turn one on the final restart of the Xfinity race in Portland. Freddie, spot on, spot off. Yikes. I mean, this was, this was... You get paid from this place, Freddie.

I know, I know. Different company. Yeah, it's different company. Sister company. Listen, Connor took advantage of them. You know, I think what happens here, the restart before this, Swalich comes from 14, goes back and almost wipes everybody out.

But he gets into Connor. And when he gets into Connor, it knocks Connor offline. And Connor runs this, this line through the little Joker deal there. The Joker deal there is in place. If you look, it starts much,

Connor only runs half of it. Let's be honest. And he only runs the half that really doesn't slow you down. Like there's a, if you go straight, there is a much more defined chicanan, we'll call it.

No, there's a whole other corner. Yeah, it's basically a whole other corner. But because I think, he got away with it on the first one and there was no penalty for contact. I think once he felt anybody touch him,

he was, and listen, this son bitch talked about running it in practice to figure out how much faster it was. And if you look at it, from above, it's faster. You know, if you can, if you don't have to run that first half of that chican, it's going to be faster. But my problem is, at least Connor ran the chican.

The next four guys in line all just fucking hooked the corner. Don't even go anywhere near the racetrack and just keep blowing right through. I think he was the 18, the 21, the 16, and somebody else, I guess maybe the 48, like the 48 at least turns out, but these guys just all go left and then just go straight through. And you know what? It's just, I don't know, you know, Connor didn't do anything wrong.

He took advantage of a screwed up rule. He gets, like he does, he messes up and he's lucky that he mess up under braking and locked him up, started wheel hopping. his him he was going to get wrecked if he doesn't he comes out with a bigger league did not get pedalo? No nobody did nobody got pedal on that's what I'm saying how is the only one it did it right well no he did half right and like

Quoppel's the first car that actually runs right on the curb Tommy watch watch Cople back there he goes in right's on that curb the one car yeah left on that runs the corner is fine he's the first car across the line that ran the whole racetrack with two to go. Did he get penalized? No.

No, nobody did. Nobody got penalized. There was no penalties. No penalties anywhere from anyone. Was there any officials over there? I, you know, the thing is,

I think that, obviously we're not going back. So there's no point in talking about it. Tommy's dying. I don't know why you get away from the stop. If you cut it, you got to stop. Do you think that if,

because Connor missed the first half of that chican, should that have not been a, if you're not running the full shickpan, penalty chicane there, it should be a stop and go, no? I think if you don't... All you had to do is zigzag and so it didn't matter which way you had to zigzag. It starts on edge rate. There's another sign back there.

So you can't really see it there, but there's a more defined. Like it starts way back here. You got to go straight. Like, so there's a thing there. There's a thing in the middle. So you'd have to like zigzag around. There's a black thing right there in the middle. They're running it correctly.

Those guys are running it correctly. But so, but if you cut it should be some kind of stop and go, no? You've gotten penalty at the roval before. for what, six inches too far in the curb? I don't know, like, I'm just saying. I just don't know how, like, you back that up, Alex. Like, you guys go back and watch this. Like, the, I know maybe the 48 and the 8 got into it.

So that, that accident like that. But the 48. But the still cut it. You're still gaining. Like the 18 is one of the ones I thought was funny, which I'll give him credit because he blew the corner and could have wiped everybody out and he didn't. He learned his lesson from the first time. But he just goes in here and, if you watch the 18, he just goes here and goes,

all right, fuck it, I'm going left right, here seems good there's no penalty that doesn't even attempt to run the chicane at all and no penalty whatsoever. To me, but I think you're teaching all these guys the bad habits. Yeah, absolutely. Now they don't

think they've got to make that corner. I think what's going to do is put a fucking wall there. Well, there should be one. We're not going back. Put a wall there. There used to be grass. I guess it used to, like I'm looking at all videos, they said that was all grass. So it would deter anybody from wanting to run through there, which I don't know why they would get away from that. because you're not going to really get stuck in there.

Put a sand trap there. Yeah, something. Like, you can't have that. I don't know how other, like, I guess any other series doesn't have a shit show like we do. But, like, we're not going back there. But still, like, this is, but I think that Connor should have had to do a stop and go. I think Connor did really good.

I give him credit for at least admitting that he practiced it and knew it was fast. I think all the cars inside that curb should be stopping goes. I heard a rumor. I would have to go back and watch the whole race to fact check this. Right now, the one car should be the winner. That's what I said. Exactly right. It's the only one.

But somebody told me, I think it was J.R. on my team, said the 70 car ran the Joker all day long. Never even tried to run turn one. Just ran the chicane all day long and was like plus 20 spots on restarts for the day. I'd have to go back and watch it like on SMT to see if that's true or not. You can't. Oh, that's right. There's no. Yeah, there's no.

So this reminds me of indie, the road course. Remember the term one down there? Where it was just faster to blow straight through and then Just make the left and go Make the right and go It was just you know Shout out to Carson Quappel for doing it right Jesse Love

He's doing it right there Oh Jesse he's just avoiding the wrong way He didn't realize he could have made a left there He would have been over here with Connor Trying to go through this other thing Did you see Nick Santos' interview? I did see what he'd talk about Yeah

And Sammy had beef right Hypocrine or something Yeah well yeah Because of that Sammy's drove in obvious on resource And hit some people Really? You know and yeah

But Nick, like, Nick, Nick said in his interview that you have to, you either going to take somebody out or you're going to get taken out. That's basically what he said to me. Tommy's going to watch that video 800 more times today. It should have been a, it should have been a penalty for Connor, even for Connor. I'm thinking you penalize all of them. The last one, maybe not so much the first one, because the first one, he definitely got knocked off line. What's the shit show about the way NASCAR put that, set that up?

Yes. So let me ask you another thing on this. Why we put the restart zone in that corner back there to prevent stuff like this? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well? Yeah. Oh, that's funny.

All right. Last topic. Playoff driver panic level. Christopher Bell finished 29th. He is plus 11 to the cut line. And Chase Elliott finished 17th, and he's plus 9. Should they be worried about moving on to the round of 12? I think, yes.

I mean, you've got to be worried because you're only 10 to 11 points of the good, whatever it is. Again, this 20 car, obviously, they had issues. They were fast in the beginning of race. They had issues on pit road, which was talking. about a minute. But the, they just haven't been the same since, you know, the beginning of the year. Like, I felt like beginning of year, they rattled off three or four wins in a row. Yeah, yeah, it's all spotter.

Yeah, it's all right. I was waiting for you to say that. You can talk about it. You can argue if you want, but they had six top fives in the first 12 races with St. Spanner and they've had three in the last 15 since then. So you think the first spotter was in the engineer room making the calls? He might have been that much better. I don't know.

Execution. Execution. You know, not making mistakes. But they... I read about your spot on the news all last week. I mean, dang. Which one? I don't know.

Apparently it was some pit command or pit... Oh, and where was that? Daytona. Yeah. It was... Misscommunication. Channel 2. Just like Bono and Eddie.

Did you hear Bono and Eddie yelling at each other this week? Bono being perfect bono. And Eddie with his... Oh, both of them, you know. Eddie defusing Bono like he's had to for the last 30 years, you know? Bono just unraveling. I love it. The best part about that, you can find it somewhere.

I forget it was like Bleacher Report, I think has it. And it's so Bono spots for the 71 truck. Eddie. Eddie spots for 71 truck. Bono is a crew chief. And Rajah must have hit the wall or something and fuck the truck up. And he's like, all right, buddy, it's not that bad. And Bono just loses.

He's like, it is that bad. And he's just going nuts. He's like, I told you to tell him, take it easy, take care of it, whatever. So they go back and forth And Eddie's like, all right, you don't yell at me And he's like, just going, they're going back and forth. And the phone all going on ravelin is the best. It's so much fun.

I don't think I've ever heard it. Oh, when he on corks, it's awesome. The best part about this video was the first comment After he just gets done berating Eddie about not telling Raja what to do and the first comment was like, does his button not work? Can he not tell him himself? That's true. But, yeah.

I don't even know what they're off. Bell. Bell's got enough speed. I don't think their panic meters probably somewhere in the middle. I think the guys that are in the bottom four, except for Bowman, I thought he was going to have a better day. I think the other guys were the guys that I think are going to struggle. And I think the nine is close to struggling, man.

I just, I don't know, man. We'll see. The five car is going to be the one everybody's going to watch because I keep saying it, ever since the Indy 500, they have not done much, right? Since he started driving that Indy car and I don't know what's happened. I'm not saying it's... It could be coincidence, but...

It's a coincidence, but since then, they have not run as well. And he took his spotter to the indie side, too, so it's not... You know, it was... I don't think Bell's in panic mode, though. No. No. And, you know, the guy that's got to be... He's one that could pop off a win at all. I'll tell you who's in trouble already is SVG. Yeah, that was a guy that was...

He couldn't afford to have that night. No. You know what I mean? That was... He was one of the guys we talked about. He had like a 16-point cushion or whatever it was coming in. And he could... If he could run top 15, top 20 every week, he could use that...

And he's still in right now. I think he's like plus three. But... He won't out race Joey. But not now. No, you know what I mean? You know, no. You know, no.

You can... That's one of the guys that there's all the guys needed for... Oh, yeah. to have a bad day. Yeah, and he did. And he, you know, he wasn't going to have as bad a day. He was going to run, I think, 25th maybe. I don't know.

I think he ended up like 31st. He was going to run around 20, 25th. Yeah. And then he got burned on a car. You know, he pitted and they got burned, like, one of the caution. I think when the 44 blew up, maybe, they were just on a different strategy. And they got burned by that. And that was really the end of their night.

But, yeah, that was a guy that he just, TJ, he couldn't afford to, he couldn't afford to have that. No, he needed all the buffer. He really needed a top 15 here. Top 15, 20 at the worst. And he ran good there in the first race. I think he ran top 20. I think he finished 20 at the first race, something like that, because I was going back and looking.

You're talking about the 20, right? I'm talking about the 80. Yeah. Yeah. 20 had that little right front damage from the first stop, right? And the 88, yeah, they seemed to struggle a little bit all night. But I thought once they, I think they finally got back in the lead lap when. They got a free pass at one point.

Well, I think that's when we priest wrecked us. And then it was a short stint to the second stage, and everybody did to drive around, so everybody made up a lap there. And you look at, like, there's nobody really. I mean, you look at, like you talk about Chase and SVG. I think Joey, like you said, I think Joey can outrun SVG for the next three weeks

and get three points on there next two weeks. He should probably have that by the end of the first stage. Yeah, Joey's going to have a good week this week. The Penske cars were really good here last year. Bell's been really good on these flat miles So he'll be really good He was really good there last year at Gateway So he could be easily just pop off a win this week

And not have to worry about anything So like for me, panic meter on them guys It's kind of in the mid right now It's not full-blown panic in after one race I don't think All right well that is all from reaction theater Wait no I'm Never mind that is all from spot on spot off

All right anyways it's time for reaction theater Where fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race. Alex, please hurry up and play the first call so they can't keep talking to me. The first one, actually, I don't know if you guys said. Jeff Gluck was on our guest last week, and he said he was going to ask Chase Selead about Chase Sexuals on Playoff Media Day, so here's his response.

I have probably the most important question of the day to ask you. Are you familiar with the term Chase Sexuals, and what do you think of it if so? The only reason I know what this is, or I've heard of it, is because Bubba has said that to me before. And I don't know, I don't know the meaning behind it. Like some sort of a fan. I mean, some of your fans are openly calling themselves that. Okay.

That's kind of what I thought based on the context of how he said it. But, you know, that's okay. That's how they want to roll. Definitely not my role. I'm happy for him. He said I'm happy for him. This guy actually, he acts like he doesn't listen every week. Yeah, he knows.

He was trying to be nonchalant. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, I can't wait for Tommy to. yell at priests. Come on, baby. Hell yeah. Doug was trying to get me.

I was stirred up last night and... I text the group guys says, thank God, Ryan. Because it was just after that. Poor Brent was getting screamed out there. He put eyes on. Maybe he put Brent out of his misery. Then of course you get four flats and now you're beached. And, but I mean, like you said,

like we talked about your day or your weekend went downhill in qualifying, essentially. Cody got in the fence pretty hard and one and two. Yeah, we had a good car in practice. thought we were pretty decent. And, yeah, I got in the corner a little too hard and turned one and hit the fence. And look, I don't care where you are, but off or two, when you're getting lapped, you're up top.

You're not moving over on the bottom to get lapped off. If you're going to lap somebody off two, where are you going to lap them? Okay. Well, where was Priest? Well, where was Priest? He was on the top. Okay. But because it was two seconds, he's had three, four laps to catch the 51.

on two second difference now because we're on old attires. Do you think he would figure out before that where to go? Listen, I don't always defend priests on here because I think he's an idiot. You're off of four. Where are you going to be? Wherever they're not. The problem is Tommy, this is what I was trying to tell you on the way in here today. All we ask is, and yes, that's fine because you know.

But if you know that we have to pass you off the bottom of two, you need to be up. He was. No, he wasn't. That's what the problem was. He was coming off the bottom. Like that's the, like that's, he goes in low, would drift to the top. So he goes in, he's showing you the top on entry. So you're like, oh, he's going to give me the top.

Well, then he fucking comes across your nose and parks in front of you. So then you got to turn underneath them. So then, but then he's turning down the hill also. And like, he just, he just wasn't doing a great. And it's not easy. It's not. On old tires. Old tires.

It's not fucking easy. I'm not saying this Cody could easily just do this. But like, you got to do a better job of showing us where you're going to be. And we could all figure it out from there. And he just wasn't doing a great job. of that in the race yesterday was like you couldn't predict where he was going to be at so then you know like TJ knows especially

one and two like if you're showing the bottom if you're showing me the top I'm going to go out there and then oh shit here you come and now now that's where that's where I think the guys were getting frustrated with him and and I think Ryan just kind of like the 44 66 when you got to them and one and two they were going to be up top

but as soon as you got as soon as you got position on them they were like okay go ahead and you both went off the corner single file I can tell you that if they were on the bottom I know when you get to that late exit If they're still going to be there It's going to be a sketchy situation So you don't fucking spin the guy out

Yeah I mean at that point Yeah I mean you can be frustrated You don't have to wreck the guy Right exactly Yeah he doesn't have to He doesn't have to force you a chance No not one fucking chance

That's why I've been talking shit about him on here I knew this was coming How's your blood pressure It's no matter what my blood pressure stays the same 127 He's over 76. Welcome back, TJ.

Kyle Bush fan here. Question for the boys. Top 10. Does that mean over the pants and stuff? What? Please say, yes. I don't know. I don't know if we can sign off on that.

It's up to the wife, probably. Oh, nah. You got to hold out. It'll be better. They're ruined it out of weeks, man. Then they're going to have a three-month break. It's going to be tough. I think rowdy fans are in trouble for a long time.

Hi, my name's Carson Hosevar, and if you're in the playoffs, I'm going to fuck your day up. Because my name's Carson Hosevar, and that's what I do. Well, we'll get to the pit road stuff here in a minute because I know that's one of the ex-DBC questions potentially. But I saw one deal with the nine, where him and the nine are kind of door slamming down the front straightaway, and I didn't really think that that was Carson's fault. I looked, you know. I don't know what it's going to be car. Yeah, that's true.

But it looked like they were just running out of front stretch. And there was somebody backing up in front of Chase that Chase didn't want to be behind. So he just kind of was trying to ease the 77 over a lane and they just rubbed doors into one. And I can't remember. I don't know if it was. It looked like a restart even. But I don't, that was the one I saw. I don't know who else he had run-ins with.

I know that's one on pit road we'll talk about. But listen. And I always talked about this modified racing especially. You know, you've dealt with it on. there on the roof, TJ, people come over to you and they're like, hey, you remember we're point tracing. And I always say, well, you remember, I'm not. So you got to fuck away from me then. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't want to hear that. You got a lot more to lose than I do. Yeah. So like, I'm not, you got, you better cut me a break because I don't care that you're,

I'm not raising points. I'm racing for wins. So if you're worried about that one spot, you better let me go. And like, so, um, that's the guy you got to know what you're dealing with. Carson's going to give 110%. I watched the last run, him and Ross ran side by side that seemed like for five laps and that dragged Ross off the back of us, so I loved it. But you know what you're dealing with a Carson. You're getting 100% every lap and whether it's right or wrong. That's what you got. That's what you got to be ready for.

That's probably the best way to put it for him. And that's not a bad thing. No, it's exciting for... It's just everything that happens after that. It's exciting for NASCAR. It's when he goes 111%. Yeah. You know what? He's exciting, man. Carson's fun to watch until you're involved with it.

You know, I'm thankful for the new qualifying line that he showed us at Watkins Glen. You know, I'm thankful for that, looking forward to going real fast there next year and probably getting the pole. Was that the fastest you've seen Brad running a long time? Where? Watkins Glen. Might be the only time I've ever seen Brad run. I don't know. Yeah, Brad doesn't get mad.

Like, during races, like, it's once a year. Maybe if that. Brad's really, really, really good at keeping his cool. And I don't know if I've ever seen him get out of a car that fast. I was that was a surprise. It was impressive. Yeah. To leave an audio message 24-7 for reaction theater, you can call our number at 704, 802-9-572,

and we'll play the best ones each week on the show. And it is now time for AskDBC. You can sit in your questions on X each week using hashtag AskDBC. All right, Mike wants to know, what are the rules of ride-of-way on pit road, what Bell was complaining about the 77, and I thought the 77 had the right-of-way. So, T.J, you correct me if I'm wrong. The right away usually is the guy in the box

I would say you would hedge giving him the right away, especially in the scenario. I think the way, if I know the scenario correctly, 77 spun out. He drew the caution. So he's basically going to be the last one coming to pit road, I would assume. He's not going to be really racing anybody off a pit road

because he's probably too far back to gain any spots. If the 20, who is probably in the top 5 or 10 at the time is getting ready to leave, it's on the 77 to let the 20 leave at that point, correct? 100%. I'd have to go back and look at it to be sure, but it's from what you just painted right there.

If you're already, if you're already a call, if you're the reason for the caution, you're probably already not, you know, in contention right there. So if it was two cars, you know, one guy's battling for their free pass or, you know, trying to, everyone's running their own race. But at that point, I think you've got to yield to, you're going to want that back at some point, you know, to me. And if you're not in, I don't know, just. don't start, I don't know, don't fight battles.

You don't need to fight right there and take some, you know, at some point you're going to want that 20 to let you go and you're not in the right position. It's not time to be collecting on that, in my opinion. Yeah, Tommy, what's that communication like box to box down there? Well, I always tried to right before the race, you know, a guy in front of him, and got make contact, eye contact, you know, hey, let me know what you're doing. You know, I know it's hard for some crew chiefs to, you know, lead in, but look, it's important that if I'm the guy in the middle, I need to know what you're doing so I can help you, right?

I'm not trying to, like, outsmart you. Like, let me know if you're coming in for fuel only or two tires or four tires. So I know what to do. I mean, sometimes I'm going to play offense on that situation, and sometimes I'm going to play defense on that situation. So I think it's important for the three crew chiefs, you know, the one in the front, the middle, and behind you to always have communication so that doesn't, that type of stuff doesn't happen.

And some of the crew chiefs don't want to do that. some of the crew chiefs don't even want to talk to you. And when that happens, I'm like, all right, okay. Yeah, you tried. You asked for it. So here's the deal. Did the 20 have a conversation with the 77? Those guys talk.

If they didn't talk, it's on them. It's on those two guys. It's not on the drivers at that point. It's on the crew chiefs by not communicating on that situation. And some of them don't want it. Some of them are dickheads. They are. We've been lucky enough, and I don't know if this is by design or not,

but the 47 has picked around us a lot this year. And Mike is obviously, we love Mike on here, Magic Mike. And we got-Moggish Mike hasn't been doing Magic Mike things. Why not lately? He's lost as one. I don't mind. But, you know, we got to one point last night where they were, they had just got a lucky dog. So they were like the tail of the lead lap.

And we were running top five. And Charles came on my radio and he said, hey, just so you know, if it's close, the 47 is going to pull. We had an opening behind us. He said the 47 is going to pull to the. opening, wait for us to leave and then do his stop, which is what you want. That's what it's supposed to happen. But at the same time, it's also hard to do that sometimes because they had an opening. Like, they had an opening to pull in behind us. We had like the garage opening was behind us. So they have a spot to pull in. Sometimes you get yourself in trouble also

stopping and waiting because, you know, if the 77 stops and waits on the 20, he could potentially be screwing somebody else up behind him. So it's just a, it's, it's a lot of moving pieces. You try to choreograph it the best you can, but sometimes in that situation, there didn't need to be communication, like you said, the 77 should have yielded to the 20, but again, does that put the 77 in harm of stacking somebody else up behind them?

So you don't know, I'd have to go back and look at the whole thing, but to your point, Tommy, there's some guys that work with you and then some guys that just don't want to. And at the end of the day, those guys they don't want to a lot of times, they just end up hurting themselves. We were one, the two down, and we were waiting for, we weren't going to pit until the first. 54 pit who was pitted right before us, you know,

were behind us, and we didn't want to cross. So Jeremy was like, hey, 54 is going to come in. We're going to come the next lap. But that's how you work with each other. Like you just, you work with each other like that. And you just try to be as efficient as you can with each other. Well, it's time to talk about shit shows. Apparently Pitt Road was a shit show a little bit yesterday.

I don't think anybody's going to beat that affinity. Freddie, you and Bubba's wreck tied with the four-wheeler fire last week. Way to go for us. I thought you guys were going to blow it out of the water. We had some, what is it? Oh, I saw this guy jumps the wheel on. Oh, man. We have a lot of full wheel.

Holy shit. Holy shit. Where is that? I don't know. Canada. I had a bad day. Canada. Everything's in Canada.

Did you see the other four-wheeler wreck where the guy was a sprint card flipped over? Did you see that one? I saw, yes, I didn't see the clip. Somebody sent me the clip. I'm sure Alex is probably not. Yeah, it's right here. Holy shit. Hang on, watch the full wheeler on the left.

They're going to go to, they're going to pan the camera. Watch, there he goes. Oh, slow rolled it. Oh, that slow roll is even worse because then the thing lands on top of you while you're doing it. It doesn't fling you off. You need to get thrown off. You see, you get ejected. That's why I don't drive those things.

Same. The first guy got ejected. Yeah, the first guy got ejected. I mean, that was a hell of wrecked them. They like flipped in sync. That looked like the first guy wrecked on the four wheeler. Yeah. Oh, God.

That's hilarious. Go back to the other one. I got to see that again. I think four wheel of shit shows are dominated. Four wheel or shit shows have been this guy you want to see this guy again. Four wheels are not in right now.

By the way, everybody's been asking me. This guy's got to stop wearing helmets. Everybody asks about these clips. You know, we try to cut them in when we can. Sometimes we don't have permission to show it. If you do, if you are looking for these clips

that we're talking about right now, they are on the Dirty Mode Twitter timeline under the shit show poll. You can find all the clips that we talk about here that end up on the poll anyway. And it's worth it. this week.

Oh my God. So the Exfinity Rack has to be on there. Old work area four-wheel guy here. I don't know what track that is. We've got to get more information, but he bust his ass. What's that white thing that went flying? Sounds like Clutch Studios should be on.

Was it? Oh, yeah. Or just something he probably had on there. No, it's something. It's like a water bottle or some. Beer. Is his beer? Are he still looking for that as a tow truck driver?

Yeah, I don't know. I haven't heard anything about him. He's still at large. I think we should, maybe Clutch studios could be on the shit show. It's closed. I want to go on be undercover boss.

That does look like a beer. It looks like Connor falling out of his car. That arm's really going to help him right here. He's got a broken comical. What do you leave the guy driving the sprint car is thinking right there? Because you know he can see him. Well, all you can see right now is the bottom of a four-wheeler. Oh, that's so funny.

All right. So that, turn one at Portland. It's a shit show. And I don't, this is not really a shit show. and I felt bad for the guys. Maddie D. His feet were on fire or something. His feet were burning up.

He gets out of the car. What he's smoking? I don't know. He was ripping his shoes off. But it took forever for the help to get to him. Like, they went to a commercial, came back. The hell still wasn't there yet. He's still laying on the ground, rubbing his feet,

taking his shoes off. Unfortunately, I have to call out our lovely home track of Riverhead. They managed to fucking make themselves look stupid this week. Tommy Rogers went nuts and was driving into people. You know... Well, here we go. No, I just hate... Look, Tommy Rogers is the all-time winningness modified driver ever.

Ever. He is ahead of Charlie Jazambach, the great, late-great Charlie Jazezambach. It's... I feel... I hated that he's not... He's... He's probably cost himself. How many championships? But I hated that he's not that guy that... You know, not... not the guy you don't want to model yeah he's he's he's the other way right and it's a shame because he's earned he should have earned that respect to be able to say you know what i need to keep

this going i need to be the next model of and he hasn't done it he's a good guy great great bunch of guys right i mean it's just he just hasn't done the right things the last three four years well maybe longer because i i was you know not paying attention for a while there when he's winning all those races, but he just hasn't taken that mantle, right? And shown the rest of the right way to do things. And that's what you need to do, right? When you're out there winning all those races and you're doing those things, you need to have that show what you're supposed to do and how you're supposed to do it.

You need to be the leader. Yeah, I hate it because Tommy, my dad and Tommy really close. Tommy helped me out a lot when I was first started racing, just trying to act like my dad did with him, like, trying to knock me around a racetrack when I did something wrong. I love the guy. It's just, like you said, and he's probably cost himself over the years. He's probably cost himself three or four championships just by kind of losing his cool and getting himself suspended for a couple weeks.

And then, you know, obviously that knocks you out of the points. But that played a note with this week. What? Did he get into it? So Chris Young, him and Chris Young got into it or him and his nephew's out there and I think they got into it. And Tommy ended up collected in it. But then he went full Bowman Gray and he's running into him under caution,

backing up and hitting him again. A lot of that's been happening lately there. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, And they only have 13, 14. By the time they get done, they're going to have six. It's just, you know, I love that place. Race. Like, do something different.

Johnny Kay, we have the Johnny Kaye clip on here, Alex. He went nuts. My man, Johnny Kay. I meant to send it to you. I don't know if it's on flow. But if you get a look at it, was it Friday night or Saturday night. Do you remember? Saturday night.

Saturday night. He gets wrecked. Jack was behind him at the time. I saw Jack in the clip. Was that the guy that was spiking his Hans? advice, yeah. So if you find it on flow, I'll send it to Alton here, but.

That was with Colter? Yeah. It's, yeah, so he goes across, he walks, somehow wreck on the backstretch, him and Joe Colter. And he comes to, he walks across, and he's an older guy. Like, how old is Johnny?

I just got to be in his 50s. I would say, maybe. Really? No, Jesus. Oh, my God. But I say he's in his 50s, and he walks across the whole race track,

goes across the front stretch wall, and everybody acts like nothing. is going to happen. They're just letting him go. And he goes out there and he just starts beating the shit of this guy's race car with this island's the fire. They should have stopped him way. I mean,

Dilton is doing play by play. And here he comes running. He's running across the pit area. Oh, he's jumping pit wall. Oh, here he goes to Joey Colter's car. Oh, he's beating Joey Colter's car. Where was security? The first two guys, like, after he started doing the security got there like they were mad

at him. No, that wasn't security. That was the O2 crew. Oh, was it? Yeah, security wasn't even in there yet. Yeah, I mean, he's out of the car. He's just relaxing and sitting there. And Joey was there.

I don't even know what happened. Well, going into turn three, the spotters, see that black trailer? Yeah, it was couldn't see. The spotters cannot see that area. So it's very hard to say, hey, he's diving in there. And the reality is the only, here he comes. I mean, he's just joking. I mean.

He's just gone for a job. And towers right there. Nobody's like, hey, somebody grabbed this guy? You think Hooch would go, hey, someone grab Johnny, please? No, look at the officials sitting right there. Just watching it. Oh, yeah. Where's he going? Oh, is he going over here? I'm not even turning it around.

Up, here he goes. Oh, what are he going? Think he's just going to say hello? Probably out of breath now. Jack's going. Oh, shit. Here he goes. Oh, no. Is he hitting the roof on the windshield? Yeah, he puts his whole body into it. Oh, almost lost a foot there. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. One more shot. That's the who's that. That's your two crew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think Johnny Kay. Johnny Kay might have something. Yeah. The official might be the shit show. The guy just watching.

Yeah, look at him. What do you do that guy right there in the walls thinking? Like, look at that guy right there. I mean, the great, the thing is, look at all the people, just watch it. And Jack was commenting. Johnny's gas. By the way, Johnny's gassed right there. Oh, you see him talking.

I wish we could, I wish they'd pay into the camera. Look at all the people in the stands. Look at them. All right. Well, we have plenty of good shit shows this week. So make sure that you go on X and vote on our shit show. of Fame and that's where you can also see the videos that we have been discussing.

DBC Picks finally whipped y'all's ass. Wip my ass. Finish fucking second. Wow. I should have told Tyler that I had him and he would have wrecked you guys. Good old fashion. No. I can't have this shit on the same page. Oh, here we go. What does it matter? You just got to look at picks.

Who goes first? Gluck. T.J. I'll take Kyle Larson. Where are we going? Gateway. Gateway. I'm going to go with Blank. I'm going to go with... You're going to do the fuel mileage for him?

Yeah. You run out one time in your... You can build a thousand. There's some other sayings to go with that, too. You know what I'm saying. I just said it. Where are we going, Gateway? I will take...

Damn, you're getting worse. I'll go look on them. Sounds like me. Oh, my God. You guys both picked people I was going to pick. All right, I'll take Denny Hamlin. Denny Hamlin. Thomas, I did hear some interesting stuff, which we had heard about a month ago.

I think I said on here that SHR was potentially going to merge with Legacy and some sort. I heard that deals out the window and SHR potentially going Chevy. I don't think there is an SHR. Well, whatever they are, Hoss Factory team. Is that floating around? They can do whatever they want. That is the rumor I heard. and the other thing like I think came out this week was no full-time ride for Hymn.

There's rumors about that. How does this keep happening? I think that's true. I think that's true, unfortunately. And it's crazy. It's not true. That he's not going to have a full-time ride next year? Not a cup ride, but just a full-time ride seller. Where?

I don't know that I agree with him. I mean. He should. He absolutely should. It's just, it's still insane to me that he's not driving a JGR. Xfinity car at this point. Speaking to which, why is he not driving that car? One of the people there don't like him.

I don't think. Maybe somebody. And listen, Slugger, this is a meeting when I first sat down with Gio. We talked about this and Slugger said, you know, you got to always think long term. You don't know the things you do, how it can affect you down the road.

And, you know, listen, I think it's no secret that him and Ty don't like each other from their days racing each other in ARCA. And I can't imagine that that's not what's keeping him out of a JGR car at this point. because there's no other reason. Like what could the other reason be?

He's in the Toyota pipeline. He's won a thousand truck races. At what point does Corey just say, you know what? I got other, I could do something else here. What else? Yeah. Like he's got a really, I think he's got a good deal with a, like, what 23-11? You tell me right now, somebody, there's not a cup team that wouldn't put him in there?

There's not a cup team and I don't think that doesn't have a driver's sign for next year. But I'm saying this has been going on for a while now. I mean, this isn't the first year that we're surprised Corey Hymn doesn't have something else. I think there's going to be an opening for 2007 for him at 2311. The funny thing, the thing that always... They're still in business. I'll let you know December 2nd. Oh, I'll be in the parking lot, don't we?

Yeah. You know, the one thing, it's just funny to me because, you know, you hear... I think Cruz is the next Toyota guy, and I think you're going to see Cruz probably in a Gibbs expanded car next year. probably full-time, but if not, majority of it. You know, that's the seat that I think that's, you know, if everything is co-pacetic, that's where you would think Hyne would end up. But, you know, I think it's going to be. Where's Cruz going from there?

Well, that you would think, listen, if he's the guy, you know, if he's the guy they have pegged, the Toyota pegs these guys that are, you know, their pipeline guys, Bell, you know, those guys, if that's the guy, then that's, you know, you set that timeline up to where, is he Denny's replacement? You know, Danny's got, he just signed a two-year deal. Is he going to sign another one? Who knows? So if you got two years of cruise in Xfinity

and he does really well, is that the guy that goes in the 11, possibly? But, you know, it's just funny. It's just so weird to me that Corey for, you know, such, I mean, he's got to be, him and Zillich, Zilich got his deal. So now Corey's obviously the number one prospect out there, right? I mean, it's just. But I think it's.

Denny has. Yeah, he's got. I'm pretty confident Denny has a path for him. Oh, yeah. So I'm not, like I. I don't think Corey's very worried about it. It's just so crazy to me that there's potential that he doesn't have a full-time ride next year, you know? And then you heard the other rumors this week about Suarez, potentially getting in the seven. I don't know how close that is.

I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. Stanhouse. Stanhouse, but Stanhouse kind of came out and said that he was under contract, which is funny. And knowing the business side of things, Stanhouse is under contract next year at Hayek? I don't even know how you say it. Hayek, yeah. If would Hayek not let him out of, because I don't know how much money Stenhouse has attached to him.

I know he's got some sponsorship. I know Noss, some of these other stuff, this comes with him. But I don't know how much that is. If you've got Stenhouse there with X amount of dollars and Suarez with probably considerably more dollars sitting there, would you not be like, okay, Ricky, if you want to go somewhere, like, go ahead. We need, like, because they're the team that need money. You know, I would say they're a team that would definitely take a driver that has more funding over somebody with talent, just like we've always talked about.

But, you know, so him being under contract really doesn't just, like, affect anything, I don't think, because they'd probably be like, okay, like, if you want to move on, you can. We'll have somebody come in with some money. But I think it's getting, I don't know, like, it seems to me, like, I feel bad. I feel bad. I love Justin Haley, like the kid's such a good kid. But listen, he just didn't perform as well as the other guys did this year.

And if I don't know how that works, but Suarez is sitting there available. Would you make that change, you think? No, I would. I think Justin's good. I think they got a, they had a lot of moving parts from the beginning of year, right? And then they moved them again. And, you know, I think, I don't know, Justin is a really good race car driver. He is.

I put him up against, I think he can run consistently in the top 15 every week if everything goes right. I mean, can he win every week? No. But not many people can, right? I mean, there's four or five guys that are capable of winning every week. So I don't know. I think the only thing that would get Justin out of that seat would be money. Because, look, let's face it, everybody's going to run out of money sooner or later, right?

And, you know, you see a lot of the owner's names on those spire cars, right? The game bridges. They don't want to be on there. Yeah. Right? They'd rather have sponsors. So I don't know. You might see some movement and shaking,

but I don't think it's because of the talent of Justin. Agreed. TJ, thanks for coming back, buddy. Yeah, it's been fun. We were looking. So what happened was we hadn't had a spotter on a while. And I knew I wasn't getting the driver to come in here at 9 o'clock in the morning after the Southern 500. That's probably not happening.

So I was like, we'll get a good spotter and unfortunately none of them were available. So, yeah, good anybody. Well, it's fun to sit with Tommy Frank. rants and you and Carson. I'm glad Tommy fills that role a little bit here. You take a lot of shit at times for it. We're just glad to give you an opportunity to come on a show and actually speak. Yeah.

You've been boring. Did it feel good to get some of your opinions out? I watched Taylor Jr. show only one time so far. I didn't even see you in it. That's probably accurate. I didn't even see you in it. Yeah, he gets to rambling on. Two things I wanted to touch on right before we left.

I ran into somebody at the pit area at, Florence and he wanted us to give a shout out to Carly Matthews is a listener of ours not doing so well he's down there at Coward County South Carolina so we want a shout out to him tell him we're thinking about him and Tony Hamberry unfortunately he passed away this week I some kind of accident I guess I don't know a couple weeks ago yeah I heard about him I didn't know him but it seems like he was a well just a racer's racer man yeah that whole group of racers up there man it's so close close net and I saw Andy Jay post something about it.

Yeah, he's just a racer's racer, man. And like when he wasn't racing, he was crew chief in other people's cars and just a really good dude and he's got, you know, family up there. So we're thinking about them. And so rest of peace, Tony. And thanks for listening, everybody. Where are we going to go racing this week? We've got to go flow.

What's on flow this week? Anything. What do you got? Carson's the link. You can visit flow sports. Dot link slash door bumper clear and sign up and get 15% off. I'm sure there'll be plenty of racing. Riverhead will be on there.

We got Riverhead Tour Race. Riverhead Modified Tour Race. We got the Smart Race at Carraway. You're not going to Riverhead, right? Not going to Carraway either. I got to go to Gateway. Oh, I'm saying, but the car, the kid, well, Luke's going. No, Luke's going to Carraway.

And Jack. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not doing anything this weekend. I don't know. Scott? Scott's going to take them, yeah, Scott. So the kids are going racing without you. They might.

I got a funny tweet this week. Somebody said, the boys finished first and second on Saturday night. And somebody said, I guess, Tommy didn't have to yell about anything, and Jack said, no, he was still yelling. Some bitches, after the race, right? They're all first and say, guess who's the only guy that's loading all the shit and doing all the shit? You and your 90-year-old?

Yeah, we got an 84-year-old guy dismounting tires, and I'm loading the rest of the shit, and the kids are just bouncing around, TikTok, and I'm like, TikTok. I'm like, would you guys help me, please? And it was funny, it was a guy next to me was like, you're the only guy that's doing? I said, you see all these clowns? Man, should have got the Hans device out. Well, because didn't TJ and all these kids come over from Florence?

Yeah, T.J and Lofty, they came over and it's like, okay. Just hanging out. Forget about it. Carsonel racing this weekend. Nope, we're off this weekend. Back out at the next weekend at South Boston. Birthday month. Yeah, birthday behavior.

Yeah, you guys need to start thinking about what you're going to get me. I've been thinking about it. Trust me. I'm sure. T.J, thank you for coming by again, buddy. Appreciate it. Thanks for being available. And showing up on Labor Day Monday morning.

morning. Thank you guys for listening. I saw a lot of fans at the Florence race. Obviously saw a lot of fans at Darlington. But thank you guys for all for listening. We'll be back next week. Peace out. See ya. See ya. Check out Dirtymo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.