Door Bumper Clear - Why Did Jon Wood Say He Would Shave His Legs?

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Making his triumphant return to the guest seat on Door Bumper Clear, Jon Wood, President of Wood Brothers Racing, joins the crew to discuss the race in Las Vegas, speeding tickets & the end of throwback weekend. After catching up with what Jon's been up to, the usual suspects, Freddie Kraft, Tommy Baldwin & Karsyn Elledge, kick us off with what happened in Las Vegas: speeding penalties galore, Denny Hamlin's dominating performance, and some post-race beef between ex-teammates, Ross Chastain & Daniel Suarez. In Spot On, Spot Off, the crew discusses: - Denny Hamlin's chances of breaking 70 career wins - Throwback Weekend is coming to an end after 10 years - How soon will SVG win on an oval track? This week's calls in Reaction Theatre were something to behold, with fans crushing beers and commenting on Freddie's uncharacteristically wild hair, and he reveals the reason behind the long locks. There were so many nominees for S*** Show Hall of Fame this week that it was hard for the crew to remember them all. And in Ask DBC, even though we are only 5 races into the year, you guys asked about silly season, so Freddie talks about some rumors he's heard around the garage. We wrap up with DBC Picks, Weekend Winners, and what we're looking forward to heading into the race weekend at Darlington. We will see y'all next time! Don't forget to check out the merch at shop.dirtymomedia.com! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. What if we left all the spotters out of everything? That's a terrible idea. What page are we on? Why you cursed that? This is why I'm just you cursing to me. I think he's a whiny. That's what I think.

Next thing you know, I got no fire suit on. Grouty nation fans are getting lucky tonight. Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome back to door bumper clear, a little day late. I got stuck, quote, unquote. stuck in Vegas for a day. Is it daylight and some dollars short from Vegas? Yeah, we are.

I did really well, not gambling much the two days that we were there. And then the extra day, you said in hell with it. I said, well, I didn't say hell with it. I was, you know, let's do a little gambling. So you were at. What casino are you guys at? Well, I don't even know where we were. I ended up, we stayed and hung out with like Eric and Holly Jones were there.

And they were like, let's go to Fremont Street. And I've never been to Fremont Street. So I was like, let's go. Yeah, I've never been down there. And I never saw Fremont Street. Street. We went to some casino. I lost we lost some money. I don't know how they did. And then I'm like, all right, we're going to

Fremont? We're on Fremont. I'm like, yeah, but this isn't, I didn't want to go to this random ass casino that I've never heard of before. So then we just left there and I still haven't seen Fremont Street all these years later. Thomas, how are you? By the way, I'm still Freddie Craft. I still Spockerbaugh-Wallis. Tommy, how are you? I'm still Tommy Baldwin.

Good, good, yeah. We got stuck in Oklahoma, Sunday night. Got home about four minutes after you yesterday afternoon. You guys left, what, Vegas is 7.30 in the morning, right, the time. We left 12 o'clock Oklahoma time and met here. Met here. I, yeah, they were, I don't know if they were fuel when you're playing up to take back off or something, but with the wind and everything, I got in the truck yesterday,

and I think I took a bath and jet fuel somewhere because it was a stunk. I stunk. Oh, Carson, how are you? Good. So, Carson, not much going on this weekend. We haven't been racing, so. What did you do? Anything fun?

I went to Indianapolis for Logan's daughter's first birthday. And had a good old time. My gift was her favorite. You like doing that anti-stuff. Huh? You like doing that auntie stuff. I do. Because I can just give the kids back.

I don't have to keep them, you know? And they start crying, I can hand it back. Making his triumphant return to DBC. Now president, I don't think you were the pres last time you were here. I was just a piss aunt. John Wood, welcome back, buddy. How are you today? Good, good.

You sure? Yeah. Are you okay? Yeah, he didn't go to Vegas. He's fine. Nice and rested. You sent me that text and you're like, hey, can you come and do it Monday, 10.30,

we'll all be dragging ass and hung over. And I'm like, I'll be fine. Yeah, I'm going to be okay. You might be tired, but I'm fine. How is the new role? I think you're over a year into it now, right? How's things going over there? I know you were doing a lot of the same things before.

Like, how much is the role changing now? Not much. I mean, I get the blame. from people that don't know any better and think that I'm the one that's making us run bad. Why are you doing that? Yeah. You know why?

Because you're working on that grass of yours at your house, I hear. Like, is this... Why? Like, I thought this was supposed to be friendly. Listen, this is pretty friendly. Yeah. No, I mean, it's... Not much has changed.

It's like a title thing, but... That's about it. I mean, we're... With our family business, And when you walked in, we were talking about it. My dad and uncle, they've done the same things, the same ways for 50 years. And sometimes what they do is right. Sometimes you need to adapt and adjust and do things a little different.

But having a different perspective from a younger person, I think, isn't wrong. But they didn't get where they are now by making the wrong choices. Right. Yeah, I mean, they're creatures that have. right now and you know i i i applaud him because it's really hard for a family to say okay we're going to let the younger younger one take over and look at his ideas and see what he's got to offer and see the things with his visions right because you're you're only going to grow in life and you're programmed by different visions right if you keep doing the same old thing you can't you will never grow if you're

not growing you're dying exactly so i you know they're obviously the woodbrother those are very smart individuals, and I'm glad that they put somebody, you know, in the family in charge instead of bringing somebody else in to do it. And Wood Brothers is alive and kicking, man. Yeah. Obviously, probably season not off to the greatest start for you guys. How do you turn that around? If I knew he wouldn't be doing it.

You just flip a switch. Two years ago, the deck was standing. act a little bit more where it was the what do they call that the metric and it was like split points finished position whatever and if you didn't have a decent points position you were toast at least now it's more about the prior weeks finished now i say it that way our prior weeks finished for the last five weeks i think has been in the 30s so it's not like that's changed or helped us but eventually when we don't finish 30th we're going to be able to have a better starting place in qualifying a better in the order, in the qualifying order, and that matters.

Because when you're going out second, that sucks. Yeah. Well, here's the problem, and it's going to get worse, because the next three weeks, going out early, sucks. Right? It's the worst. So you're never going to be able to – you will never dig yourself out of this hole unless you do get a good finish, else you are going to be in the hole for the next three or four weeks

because Darlington stinks going out first. Martinsville is absolutely horrible going out in the beginning. and forget about Bristol because, you know, they clean the track, they get the rubber off it, it cools down, that place changes with these cars like you have never seen before now. So, yeah, it's a big hole to climb out of. Qualifying is everything now. And my, you know, if you're a mid-range car and you qualify and you can hang on the first stage and where you started, you're going to have a good day because by the time the second stage is over.

Those guys are two down. Two down, 27. second is a lap down, you're 17th in the lead lap, 15th on the lead lap, now you can fight, right? Now you have a, your driver has like, man, I'm in this already, right? The confidence level goes up, right? I got a chance. The team, I got a chance. But when you kept getting beat down, man, it's just, it's hard for you to, like, come back. You got, you got to have that strength within, you know, your driver's got to have that mental ability to go, I am not, look at briscoe right sunday he could have gave up right right he didn't they fought back they ran had a

really good car obviously but fought back and had a really good finish but you got to have that mental stability to want it all the time else you toast and not make mistakes yes exactly we were we started off really bad and made it better and at one point in stage two we're ahead of the 19 so we're both a lap down but we're holding on like he's behind us then we speed on pit road yeah so when you're two down, it's game over. Like that's, there is, there is some fight. And, and there is a way to come back. But when you're two down, midways through stage two, just like, turn the TV off.

How much? And this is kind of for both of you, really, but how much do you have to adjust your goals? Obviously, you start the year one mindset, you know, we're going to go contend for playoffs. We're going to go hopefully win races, you know. And now you said, you know, four or five weeks a row in the 30s, how much do you have to adjust your goals of, all right, let's just get a base hit here somewhere. Like run and lead lap all day one day. Like how much do you have to adjust that going into a weekend?

That was the plan this weekend. Yeah. It was to have a base hit after Phoenix where we one car wrecks and somehow we figure out a way to wreck with him. And like it's just, and it's not Josh. It's just like when bad luck starts, it just doesn't quit. Snowball. At least Darlington, I mean, you're sitting there saying all this stuff and I'm like, damn it. Make it his morning worse.

Jesus. But at least Darlington, you start last. 15 laps into the race, you can be 20th. Like, you can pass there if you're good. And Josh will be good at Darling. Now, looking back the last two times with him that we were at Darlington, we've made a total of, I don't think we made it to the first pit stop worth of laps. The second race, which was the start of the playoffs, we wrecked lap zero.

Yeah. Like, turn one wrecked. Wasn't his fault? Just missed it on setup, hit the racetrack, wreck. The spring race, it's something. Same thing. Running forth, fast, wrecked with the, um, Reddick, what numbers? Yeah, 45. Yeah, 45.

Rec with 45. Stupid. Like, just no reason to do that. But we didn't get a lot of laps at Darlington, so I don't think he knows what to expect long ways into those races. But I do know from my experience and experience is watching forever, you can pass there. So even if qualifying goes bad. Yeah, I mean, the first run, the first run is the most important to stay on the lead lap.

That is the most important run to not. be able to fade. You know, we all shoot for trying to get a caution for like lap 30, 35, for everybody to reset, right? Because it's hard for the guy's 27th on back is usually the metric of where you're going to get lap from the, on the long run. 27th is usually the, where you, you got to hang on to not get lap. So we all have different, like you said, we all have different objectives, what we need to do to get through the race and what we need to do. And yeah, I mean, you got to shoot for base hit first, right? Like Freddie said. And, um. But, cars aren't falling apart at the beginning of the race like they used to either.

Like you used to count on a wheel, like a fender flying off or just something dumb. That's not happening now. Like you're going to the end of stage one caution free. Yeah. I mean, I think you look at Sunday, there was only one caution, right? I mean, the stage breaks obviously, but I think it was Zillich, right? When he spun with Pitt Road was the only caution of the race. So, yeah, you're not able to rely on, you know, some dumb shit happening to get yourselves.

So, yeah, it's, it's, and like you said, Tommy, that it's a snowball. Like, if you get lapped in that first run, now you've got to start last in the second run. You're probably going to get lapped again. Now, once you're two down, like you said, it's game over. So it's just, it's an uphill battle, but we're pulling for you, buddy. I hope you know that. I want you to run second every race. Or like third, fourth, actually, yeah.

It felt good last year when you're like, don't win. I texted him after it was Vegas, right? You won Vegas, and then somewhere else you were fast as fuck. And I was like, all right, that's cool. cool, but like I had enough. Please go in, yeah. Speaking of this week, speaking of fast, Danny Hamilton was pretty good.

Yeah. They were pretty fast. Yeah. It was impressive starting getting a penalty. Did he get a penalty? He got a penalty, yeah. A lot of people did. The reality is when we all went through before the green flag,

there was a lot of red on that screen. Yeah. So a lot of guys needed to adjust. There were a lot of guys also. you know, we usually shoot if it's a 50-mile-an-hour speed limit. We want to be around 49-5, 49-7, just to be safe. But there were a lot of reds, which was over 50, is showing. A lot of 49, 8s, and 9s on a lot of teams on Sunday.

So it was all about catching that, adjusting it, and not making mistakes. And some of them got caught. We did. I know that we were going to talk about this in the spot-on, spot-off, but we can go do it now. you know, is that all in the driver? Probably not all. I mean, 99% of the time it's the driver,

but it's also setting the lights. And to your point, you know, we, for some reason, I feel like you roll faster on hot tires, you know. So if we come down pit road and we usually see, if we see a 90, 80, you know, 4980, 490, we'll bump down a lighter of the page just to be on the safer side because you're, whatever reason you come down pit road again,

you know, out on your green flag stop or after the first stage, whatever it is. And it seems like you just go like a tenth of a second faster. Oh, adrenaline, too, right? I mean, just, you know, you're in that hot car. And then I thought it was interesting that Ty and Danny both got the penalties together and they were following each other down pit road. And they ran the same exact seats, 50.03.

So that's how much they can just mark off each other. But yeah, I mean, how much, John, this is for you. Because obviously things happen so fast on pit road now. Pit road is so tight where if you, you know, if you're a couple tenths a second, slower pit stop, you're losing two or three spots probably. You know, where is the risk versus reward with that? You know, how hard do you want these guys to be pushing? Like, push the envelope to get it.

Yeah, get me. I want to run 49.08, but don't dare run 49.50.01. You know, how hard is that to balance? If we would have been a mile an hour slower all day long, our day would have been better. So I think the risk versus reward, yeah, I mean, you go to Martinsville, Bristol, some of those places where it's really, really close and really, really tight. That's a big difference. Longer pit roads, Talladega.

That matters more, but I don't really know that a tenth of a mile an hour is going to gain, what, a car length? That's a little bit more, especially on the takeoff, leave and pit road, you know, at that point. But, I mean, you know, to Freddy's point, every tenth of a mile and hour counts now because of how close the field is. You know, I just think there are some racetracks that read a little bit faster or more accurate than we know. But that's our job to adjust that. Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's some sections, like there's a couple sections at Indy, right? There's a couple sections I think of Kansas.

I think there's a couple of seconds. Yeah, like Darlington, especially around the corner, you know, that you really have to pay attention to and watch and really put it in the driver's head not to make mistakes. And, you know, Darlington is going to be one of the toughest, obviously getting on pit road, right? There is, right? I think Darlington and Dover are always the two hardest to get on pit road and all.

But, yeah, I mean, you just, man, you just, you know, we got caught speeding on the last stop, right? I mean, we were, we pitted with the group of cars that we were racing. We could have finished 27th or 35th. That was our window of who we were racing against. And we made a mistake at the end, finished 35th. I mean, just like that, just because of speeding. And it's, and it's, people don't realize sometimes how much it can change, especially at places like Martinsville, Phoenix. We got a penalty last week of Phoenix, and it was, you know, we were, you know, we were,

were pitted on the corner. So we left and like it's a pan, you know, if you can't, like, everything's measured outside against the wall. So like if now you leave pit road and you're side by side with somebody, all right, you got to bump down one light or is it two light. So, you know, the first run, we weren't sure because it was kind of a new, the way they like red Phoenix trying to change a little bit. So we leave pit road. I'm like, we're going to run four red here still or whatever the number was. I can't remember. And we run out and it's good. The first pit stop. And we're like, all right, good. We're safe. Well, it turns out Bubba didn't max out his lights on the first one. So the second one we leave, we run four red again, and now he's

side by side with the 17, so he's maxing out his lights, and we speed. And it's like, oh, shit, you know, oh, we didn't realize he didn't max him out the first time, because we never thought to ask, because it was good. And just so everybody understands, we only see the speeds before the green flag. We don't see them after every pit stop alive. So we don't know. We can't, we can't adjust during the race because we don't know. Like, we can't communicate to the driver, okay, you were 49, 8 there, what light were you at during the race? I mean, we only have one shot to make an adjustment. We don't know.

You know, it could just take somebody in front of Bubba, getting on pit road before the green flag of being too slow. And that messes your whole, your whole plan up of the guy that did the lights all week that worked on it, right? Yeah. And not to overdo this pit road thing, but last year, we were fast. you make a mistake on pit road, you lose a lap or whatever it is, you can bounce back. When you're not fast, that's when it really hurts.

When you're mid-pack struggling, you're already lost one, if you've got the speed like the 19 did, you know, you screw up from the front part of the field, you can fix that. Yeah. But you screw up from the middle of the field, you don't fix it. Right, yeah. And it goes back to base hits. You know, what is your goal that day? Just have a clean day. And if you don't execute, you know, you're going to find yourself in the 30s again. He said, somebody's going to have to explain what the hell happened with Suarez and Ross to me.

I don't, I didn't see. Who is the lady in the hat? That's Ross's PR person, I believe. Was it fighting? Oh, they were, they were jaw at each other. If she wouldn't have been there, it might have been a little more interesting. Yeah, she kind of got between them.

Ross gave me a little bit of a shove and then she jumped in there. But I still didn't, it looked to me like they just kind, I know they'd bang doors like on the first or second lap. And then I saw where Daniel, like, squeeze Ross in the fence. But this seems like some pent-up shit for maybe from the last couple of years. Maybe it did see.

Yeah, this goes back further than... I mean, I didn't... Rush doesn't forget much. No. But, like, he, like, I didn't... I didn't know what I saw on the racetrack didn't warrant anything. That kind of...

And then, I mean, Ross, like, door slammed him after the race is over, and I think that's what led to the pit road. But I didn't see anything on the racetrack that I thought was that egregious where it was... Yeah, I don't know anything about it. I know you handle a lot of...

A lot of social media over there. And you get to have some... fun at times fun? Wait, I've always this might be an ignorant question but I've always wondered is it you all the time on the

Twitter or just when it's really funny? Oh God. When it sucks it's not me. Well no, because like I've seen some stuff and been like oh shit that's cheeky for a team account and then once I learned that sometimes it's allegedly John. If it's cheeky it's John.

I promise you that. But I love it. Yeah, it is, typically. But, like, what's hard for me is having, like, equity in this team. When we're doing really bad, like, the way things have been going lately, I have a tendency to just disappear and not post stuff because there's so much clapback. And no matter what you put just a picture, like, looking forward to Darlington. And it'll just be...

Oh, you're going to run better than 30th? Yeah. Y'all suck. Why even go? Y'all suck. Keyboard warriors. Like when you see that over and over and over, it's just like, I'm just going to just not do it and pretend like I forgot. It becomes not fun.

That's why I don't have any of that crap. But you got to do it. Imagine me on TikTok. That's the thing that sucks about it is in this day and age you have to. You have to have it. No, you don't. I love it. For our industry, yes.

Not for you personally. You don't need to be allowed to log into a social media account. You stay a fuck off of social media. Don't text anybody. We're done with you for a little while. You can barely handle a group chat. But I just saw the other day, I found some hidden folder or something that has, like, message requests in it that I didn't know that was a thing.

From people that are probably being mean to you. It's like it knows how to filter that. There was one guy that was funny because I saw one guy that posted, like he sent me a DM. I guess last year again, I never saw it until now. I just found this on a plane the other day when I was sitting there waiting. and I'm like this guy's like last August it was like

hey man you know that's fucking awesome you guys won indie you know it's really cool whatever and then he must be a cleetus fan because the next one was like fuck you you fat piece of shit like boy things change I know

that's my favorite when you go back through the message request and you can see like the progression of where they all of a sudden just got mad at you somewhere and then if you engage if you're responsive and then you don't be

respond, like you're always expected to be on that level of the beginning of accessibility. And sometimes you just can't. Sometimes you're busy. And if you don't, where have you been? I see how you guys treat your fans. Come on, like, we're the same people we were a year ago. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, I just, I enjoy every, like, I just like, I just like to clap back. That's because you have nothing else

to do. Yeah, I'm just sitting, sitting around all day, just fucking. And you got a new puppy, I see. Yeah, I got a new puppy. Hank, Hank came home yesterday. What kind of puppy you got? So, they don't really know, they found him and his brother in the somewhere. So he's eight weeks old now. And he's, he's some kind of lab, like a lab, maybe pit mix or something like that. So he'll, he's going to be a terror. He's already running around the house, pissing everywhere. Nice. I love it. We haven't had a puppy in 17 years. So it's, it's a, Mo was maybe the easiest dog on the planet. So now we've got a, now we've got a lot.

Yeah, we've got a, yeah. Not me. Meg's going to deal with him. He's, when I left, he was up in her office sleeping. So he's going to, she can handle that. But yeah, it'll be fun to have him around. Wait, and Tommy's officially a grandpa now, right? Tommy is officially a grandparent. We can talk about it now. Baby Joelle was born. What day? Thursday.

Thursday. 109. What's the, what was the date? What was the birthday? Do you remember? No. Last Thursday. Last Thursday.

Last Thursday. Whatever that day was. Sometime in March. March to 12. March 12. March 12. Yeah. That's exciting.

How's everybody doing good? Everybody's good, yeah. They went home right away. A couple days. Yeah. Two days later. So exciting. The thought of just.

handing Jack a baby and telling him to leave. It's terrifying to me, but I'm sure he's doing a great job. He'll be just fine. They said the same thing about me, and my two are still alive. If anyone of my kids could have the baby, it's him. The other two? I would agree with that. One of them I think still, Luke, we still were waiting on him to grow up.

Luke still is a baby. I thought my mom was going to have to end up at the home after she found out that I'd got my wife, which she wasn't my wife at the time when I got her knocked up. She was like And so the funny part It's not funny It's funny now

It wasn't funny then I think I wanted her to find it out But I didn't want to be the one to tell her So when my grandpa's Hall of Fame induction happened That's around the time that I found out So I made sure Just enough of her friends at the Hall of Fame induction knew it

So that they would tell her And then I wouldn't have to And that's how it went down Yeah I was the last to find out Yeah Let me tell you how Let me tell this story about how Tommy found out. I was honored to have been there.

You were that Carson was there. Was that after Indy? No, it couldn't have been. It was after you? Oh yeah, it wasn't after Indy. We went out after Indy. We were celebrating. And it was Monday after the show. And we went out. And then we went to somebody's house. I can't remember who's. Zillage's house to meet and see him to his dad and everybody over there. And I walk in and I am under the weather to say the least. And the boys come to me and they're like, hey,

we got to tell Dad something. And I don't know how to do it. I was like, I Well, just tell him. What do you got to tell him? He's like, well, Jack's girlfriend's pregnant. I'm like, fucking don't tell him. I was like, don't tell him now. We're shit-faced. I was like, oh, my God. They tell him.

And I'm like, the whole time I'm like, you guys are fucking around. Yeah. This is not funny. For two weeks. For two solid weeks, I was like, there's no fucking one. Tommy calls me the next day. He's like, did Jack really tell me he was having a baby last night? Did I imagine that?

I said, no, he told us that. I just don't know if it's true or not. And then turns out it was true. Yeah. Beautiful little girl. I can't wait to hang out with her. Yeah. More.

That'll be fun. Are you babysitting yet? Change a diaper? Tonight? Tonight? I'll be babysitting tonight, yeah. That's good. What else for this weekend?

Anything. Larson won. Pretty good race on Saturday. I liked the way day raced all day. He's seemed like... He led labs? Well, it seems like since that helicopter was here a couple weeks ago,

things have changed a little bit. And it's good. Yeah. I mean, and I've seen him outside. side a couple weeks ago. He made that last quote there on his accountability of things and what he needed to work on. And I told him I really respected, you know, him saying that and doing that. And, you know, they battled not only on Vegas asphalt, but Vegas dirt for two nights, three nights, too. So it's...

Yeah, they had a really good race Thursday night. I think it was. But yeah, that kid, I mean, he's got all the talent in the world. It's just a matter. Like, and somebody like as a team owner, team president, you know, you're looking at guys, younger guys coming up to the ranks like what do you notice about a guy like that where obviously he's had some on track issues but he's got all the talent he runs top five damn near every race like where do where do you find that balance i don't know i mean you can kind of tell like you can just kind of tell i mean you know the ones that are gonna gonna gonna have it and the ones that aren't and we live in an unfortunate time where that doesn't always matter um being able to do a podcast is equally as important as

winning races. I mean, it's the truth. Or having some kind of relative that has money. I mean, any of these things they all matter now. And that's not the way it was in our time. Yeah. Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first on this one? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think.

Send it. Why me? All right, ready for some spot-on, spot-off? Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, Denny Hamlin will reach 70 race wins before his career is over. Spot-on, spot-off. Tommy.

Absolutely. No question about it. No question. He also passed Kevin Harvick on the all-time. What numbers he at now? 61. Yeah. Well, you know, you put this time frame on because he keeps saying that he's going to quit after 27.

I just can't see that happening if he's winning five or six races a year. Now, like, so if he gets it. The only thing that's going to screw us maybe is if he doesn't do it this year and he wins a championship and then maybe he like. Maybe he quits. But then now most guys don't quit and quit. Like they quit and they come back. Yeah, they run 20 race. And he's got a race team.

So he can probably do whatever he wants. Yeah. He can pull a Dale. He can retire, but then she'll get to come back and run a couple for some sponsor commitments. He will definitely win over 70. Yeah. I mean, you're looking at five a year. He won six last year.

if he sticks to that 27. So I think he's going to win that by, you know, next year. Like you said, though, Tommy, if he does win a championship this year, that might just put an end to everything. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, yesterday, or he might win 80 if their cars are as fast as they were on Sunday. Because that thing, you talk about speeding penalty, I look up. You know, he, get him in the 54, get a speeding penalty.

I look up. He's running us down for fourth at the end of the second stage. You know, he got the, I think he got the penalty for the start of the stage. And by the end of it, he was back in the top five. I was like, oh, this guy is going to be. hard to handle the rest of the day here. So, I mean, whatever they found they hit on, and it looked like your car there last year. Yeah, the only thing that I would say on that is, and I can use us as an example, there are, like, two different phases of a season. You start

out and the tracks are cool and a certain type of car, certain manufacturer does well, and then you get to the 600, and that seems to be the cutoff point, and then something changes. In a different manufacturer, a different organization, they start dominating. Yeah. So it would be interesting to see if they stay where they are three months from now. Yeah. And like that, I feel like that's one of the things that this format, you know, season long, if you want to call it that, you know, format changes to where, you know, we always saw guys, you know, you'd win a race and you could take a little low and kind of build up for a summer, a summer push or getting ready for the playoffs. But now, I mean, right now you've got to be on it every week.

So, you know, you're not holding it, but yeah, like John said, you always see that, you know, right now, obviously Toyota's are running really well. I thought the Chevys were pretty fast yesterday. the 24 and the 5 are pretty good. Or Sunday, I keep saying yesterday. If you look at the points, though, I mean, everything's aligned. Yeah. All the guys are pretty much where it's supposed to be, where they're going to battle. You know, I mean, it's exactly what everybody expected, right?

I mean, effort equals results, right? And the finishes equal results. And that's, you're looking into points right now. That's where everybody's at. But I'm going to tell you guys, you're going to have your hands full on Sunday. these cars are going to be out of control. Out of control. Fun.

Yeah. The, I mean, what do you think? I have it. I got my analytics meeting this afternoon. You think over four seconds? Absolutely. Over four seconds of fall off? Absolutely.

I see, you know, everybody I talked to, like everybody that we saw the comments from this week with Danny, I think was one of them. Briscoe was another one that did show last week with Jeff Gluck's, the Gluck cast. What the hell of me? we call that show, the black, I think it is, and they're just excited. You know what I mean?

That's what these drivers, like, you know, you look for these races to where, this is where it separates, you know, the men from the boys,

as they say. And that place always has. Yeah. And now, and it, for a couple of years, two, three, the last two,

three, four years, it hasn't, right? I mean, it's still, Darlington, right? But now Sunday is going to be a blast. It's going to be fun to watch.

What do you think, though, historically, drivers have been more horsepower, less grip. Do you think that equals a better show? Like, if they got their way? I think it does. I think it does because it just, it brings out the talent,

and it brings out the comers and goers more. You know, some guys are not going to realize that how fast that car is going to fall off, right, and go, right? Because it's going to be all new, right? This is going to be a different type of race. And so, yeah, I think you're going to see some guys. I think you're going to see people like the nine car. At the end of the race, he's going to be there.

He's one of the guys that know how to manage a race. The 11 car, obviously, knows how to manage a race, the 12 car. But you're going to see some other guys going, and then the side knocked off of it. Yeah, yeah, because all of a sudden, the switch hit on the car. You know, they lost a little bit of grip, and maybe I'll be all right. You go into one and boop, you know, off of four, you know, so. But I mean, like, overall, like, let's say you go to a mile and a half

package, less grip, more power. That's what the drivers have been screaming about forever. Do you think that equals a better show? Yeah. Yeah, it has so far. So far this year, I mean, I think it has with the tire and the short track package put on these type of tracks with the horsepower. I think it's been good.

You sound skeptical. I'm talking about like a Vegas. Well, Vegas wasn't the full. Right. Vegas was it probably be a little bit better if they tried it there. Yeah. No, I'm not skeptical. I'm just curious what your thoughts are. Yeah, I mean, you have some off-throttle time there, which would affect it for sure. But, yeah, I think by the time they get done at the end of this year and they look at the tracks

and look at all the analytics of what went on with the horsepower and the downforce, they're going to get to the next steps, right, of making another jump, I think, and helping us, you know, helping us as a sport as a whole. but yeah I think there's you know I kind of laughed when they were doing all the testing that you know when they were testing with the adding 100 horsepower and going back out there we don't feel nothing we didn't feel anything and I'm like man a hundred horsepower I know I you know I can only go back to when they put the restrictor plate on at New Hampshire right when we had all the horsepower we wanted and then we put the restrictor plate and look at the boring race it had I can only keep going back in my head of going, host power makes a difference, man.

I don't care what you say. But I think places like Darlington, Bristol, even Martinsville, Richmond's going to be. I totally agree on those. Awesome. But if they open it up a little bit more on the bigger tracks and take a little bit more downforce away, it's going to be a handful.

We were, like, as good as that race was yesterday, and it's hard to say they couldn't pass Sunday, whatever the fuck day it was. As good as that race was, you know, Danny obviously blew through the field. The Gibbs cars that had issues came back to the field. But you could still really, if you wanted to do a good job of it, you could really just block the shit out of people.

Like, you know, we arrow blocked both the six and the 60. Like they were considerably better than us and couldn't get around us. You know, they just, they just try, try, try. To priest, we made him burn his tires off trying to get us. He fell back a couple spots. Then Brad, the last, I don't know, 15, 20 last. hounded us and you can just still manipulate you know like the guy the guy in front still has all the control it seems like it's you know what cars are more equal then he was really good you couldn't

weren't holding him off but you know it's that's the stuff i think we need to fix and maybe that helps but the less down force it's going to help yeah you're not going to be able to hold them off that long as long as you are with the car stuck in the racetrack if the car's not stuck in a racetrack and you're playing with air and that guy's moving you around a little bit more it's going to change yeah because yesterday like what we like one of the moves like we were executing pretty well on Brad and I know I know we pissed Ryan off so Brad was probably in the same boat but like

Bubba would just kind of leave a lane on the bottom and then right in the center of the corner just turned out across their nose and they would plow like a dump truck, lose five car lengths burn the tires off of it. Take three laps to try to catch us back up to us and we would do it again like I feel like if you have a different arrow balance there and they're because they were on our left rear quarter you know like if that was an expedity car

we'd be up in the shit because we were getting you know we just get super free but this car you like the guy in the front just has all the control seems like. Yep. Exactly. We started all that by talking about Denny Hamlin reaching 70 wins. Yeah, how do we get today? We sir, I don't know, you started, I don't know, somehow you just went from that to the Darlington.

No, he did. Don't why you blame me? I did. Tommy loves to talk about tire fall off. All right, speaking of Darlington, Darlington's throwback weekend is officially going away after 10 years, as some say it has, quote unquote, run its course. Yeah, we sure off on here. My sheet in front of me says 10. It was 10. It's probably not so. Coming from somebody who can't see without your reading. That's far away. This isn't. I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know

20 years would be the beginning of throwback. Yeah. That was the throwback. I mean, how many... Can I finish my thought? Some states run its court. And I wasn't even going to ask you. Don't ask you. I don't want to know.

Whatever. Go ahead. Ask John, they run a throwback every week for like that. You're right. We don't run out of throwbacks. We have them forever. They got their own throwbacks. Constant throwback. Not joking.

around but you know I mean the 21 has looked the same essentially for the most part I mean obviously there's some races here and there where you have a different sponsor on there but is there any I mean the motorcraft stuff has kind of been the motorcraft stuff I don't know like if they're still there I can't remember but um you don't remember if motorcrafts I mean I know they're still there but I don't know not on how much they're there um but but uh you know how much like you have to say had the same pain scheme so like finding sponsors like is that does that play into it at all like there's sometimes their cars might not line up Some sponsors are cool with the split, whatever we call our thing where the hoods are in color.

But they'll do their own color. Like we did an SKF scheme a couple of years ago. It was blue on top and then white on the doors. So sometimes they'll go for that. Sometimes they elect to do their own thing, like ERO. They have their own color shade of blue. So the whole car is blue and it looks really good. But we don't encourage it or discourage it.

It's just, you know, it's your car, do whatever you want to do. Yeah. And I think that's the problem with it. you've been on the business side of it, Tommy, you know, it's, it's changed a lot because of the amount of races the sponsors are doing, I feel like, you know, if you're, if you're a sponsor and you're only doing three races a year and Darlington happen to be one of them and you're paying a premium price for that race, you know, you're not going to want to run some other color scheme that's not your colors or, you know, and I think that's the only way, if you're going to do a

throwback, you have to do it right. It's got to be the same colors, the same number, you know, like, you know, we threw, I mean, there's some, I remember we did one. that was like a throwback to Bubba's legend car, but it was the company's colors. So you didn't know it just look like a paint scheme. Well, that's the point. I think it's run its course. I think everybody's out of ideas, right?

It's like we need to do it another 30 years from now, right? To create. Yeah, unfortunately. If you're not growing, you're dying. Yeah. And like, unfortunately, the Woodbrothers still be the same color, so they can keep doing in 30 years. So it'll be fine.

But we do different ones too. We've had all sorts of. He's like, come on. Yeah. And like, the other, the flip side of that, Motorcraft is cool enough to say you come up with a different one, go do it. Like, we're cool with that. As long as it's our colors, whatever you want to do.

And so for Daytona, we did a tribute for David Pearson's 76 win. And they didn't care. They're like, yeah. And when you do that, that's an opportunity for broadcast to mention it. So like if the colors line up for the sponsor, why not do it? Yeah, why not? Why wouldn't? Let me tell you something.

They're going to talk about the 21 colors no matter what, because it's the Woodbrothers. Well, I don't want them talking about it now. Let us get a little closer. Let's figure this out. You know, I think that like leaving it like this, leaving it up to the teams, because I feel like, you know, it would say it was kind of forced. You know, I don't think anybody told you how to do it. But, you know, it got to be the point where it's like, I don't even, like, there was multiple times you see a car and I go, I don't even know what that is a throwback of. So you were getting really bad ones.

It's reached its course. So now I think like letting the teams do it. They do whatever they want. And, you know, I saw yesterday, I think it was, Hosevar has a chill. branded looks like the Wrangler car or whatever. So, I mean, I think that's what you're going to see now. You're going to see better ones because it's teams that, like, have time to come up. I know my Exfinity car this week or my O'Reilly car, listen, this is going to be hard for me, this O'Reilly

Xfinity thing, especially because Xfinity is on my car every freaking week. Yeah. But, you know, so, but we have a biffle throwback this week on the 26 car, which it looks good. You know, it's a 3M car with the 26 looks good. But, yeah, so I think you'll see better ones now by not saying, you know, you guys got to do this. I think there's like 30 biffle cars. There's going to be a lot of biffle this week. Which is awesome.

I mean, hell yeah. I think that's true, though. Like, we've done a cars tour throwback weekend for as long as it's been around. And it kind of started to get more difficult the last couple years. And since we made it to where you can just do what it, I have them calling me now asking me, hey, is this okay for a race that's in August? But before it was like harder to get. And like you said, we see better ones now because they have more time to plan.

They can do what they want. Like there was some I just like when we moved the numbers also kind of like there was there'd be a throwback to like I remember like the Mark Martin Viagra car so the Viagra car had like a big circle on the door that looked like the pill but you know the six was in the pill well the scheme was the same but the number was in front of the circle so I'm like this looks idiotic you know like so it's like if you're going to do it we got to do it right or just don't do it at all so if that if we're leaning towards don't do it at all like let's let's go that way then let teams decide on their right. road. Bubba Wallace tells Jeff Gluck that SVG will win on an oval soon. Spot on, spot off. Tommy? I don't know. It's hard.

This is hard. People don't realize how hard this is. Yeah, I mean, is he running better on ovals? Absolutely. Is he ready to contend for a win? No. No. I don't, it's going to happen.

Yes. I don't know if it's going to happen soon. You know, to your point, you can't oversteen. state how hard it is to win a cup race right now. Yeah, typically you have to lose one, at least one, before you're ready to win one. Sometimes it doesn't work that way, and you just... Yeah, well, he won on his first one. I'm talking about a road course.

That didn't count. That was our first one. He had an unfair advantage. There's rain shortened, and then there's road course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, for real. Is he running better? Absolutely.

I mean, but look how far back. I can't believe how far back he fell in points, right? He finished last, right? Yeah. It's like I can't believe. I referenced it last week. I think it was Logano said originally. Blaine, he said it where I heard it, but he said,

point standards are going to be an elevator down this year and a staircase back up. But once you have one bad race, it's, you know, especially we talked about it last week, you know, now early in the year when everybody's so tight, you can't, you're getting with those stage points and everything else. I mean, we had a 40 point day the other day and ran ninth. You know what I mean? So that's, you know, that's 40 points we're gaining on him right there.

So, you know, it's. Right now it's over, right? It's spreading now. Yeah, it's starting to get a little spread. But yeah, I mean, it's he is, it's noticeably, though. I mean, how much better he is. And you knew it was coming. Yeah.

I mean, I saw it last year. He was racing with Bubba at the summer shootout. You know, they were there all week. In the first weeks, the first couple weeks, him and McLaughlin looked like, oh, shit, this is going to be exciting to watch because they're probably going to do some dumb shit over here. And then he went out and won the last one, you know? So in an eight-week period, he got better so good in that. that he went out and won.

So, I mean, how impressive is a guy like that to come over here? And, you know, obviously, the road courses is one thing. But for no more experience that he has in an oval is really impressive. Yeah. Like this, again, this is hard. And to have a specialty of road racing like he does, and not just road racing, but like street course type racing. Yeah.

And then race at Charlotte or Darlington. Like, that's different. It's really impressive. And I think he, like I said, I think he wins soon might be, soon might be aggressive. and Bubba is an idiot so anything Bubba says Don't believe anything Bobba says You're eating at first

All right DBC fans It's time to read All right well I'm ready to hear What our fans had to say About the weekend It's time for reaction theater Where fans can call in

And voice their opinions From this weekend's race Do we have some good ones Or Yeah we got a couple good ones Do we need to start Like a sweepstakes To get our

I like that idea We'll definitely We'll play around with it Not me though can't sell her can go on a date with Freddie and Tommy hey that's a fun date pending Meg and Beth's permission

Meg and Beth would sign off on that they'd probably be like yeah take them please get them out of the house Hey I saw Freddy doing a video the other day or promo or something and he didn't have his hat on and I thought my God I thought Wolfman Jack was dead

But then I got to look into that full head of hair And I thought my God I wish I had that hair. I had that much hair and that beautiful head of hair. I'd be getting more ass and a toilet seat. Somehow I knew that was coming.

You kind of like broke the internet with that photo of you. I mean, I don't know what the problem is. It looks like the baby Grinch. Tell them why. So my dad had a superstition when I was growing up that every year on opening night,

you had to have a fresh haircut and a new pair of sneakers. That was their superstition. Whatever it was, him and Tommy Ryan had the same thing every year. I never seen Tommy clean. So, right before we leave for Daytona, every year,

I always go get a haircut the day before. And that's like been my good luck charm, and we've always run fairly well, never won. So it's obviously not that good luck charm. But so this year, I couldn't go. The girl canceled the day before or whatever. So I was like, oh, no. I'm not going to get a haircut before Daytona.

And then my lovely wife, Megan, knows how superstitious as I am. She's like, well, what are you going to do if you guys run well? You know, like, you're going to have to keep, not be able to cut your hair. And I was like, well, that's not, yeah, whatever, it's fine. So here we are six weeks later and I'm second points. And now I'm I'm not going to be able to cut my hair for a while, apparently. So hopefully, I mean, hopefully I don't cut it for the next, I don't know, six months. We'll see what that looks like. That'd be great. I would imagine, I'm waiting for, I think I'm, I've decided, I think, like, if we don't have a top 10 points day is where I'm going to draw a lot. That's where you're

all the line. So hopefully we keep it up. Top 10 every race so far. We finished 11th at Coda, but we had stage points. It was like we were like 7th or 8th and points that day. So you're going to count that one. Top 10 points. If we're in the top 10 points. Did you get new shoes? I get new shoes all the time.

The company I work for has a pretty good shoes. That's right. That guy's got, yeah. That guy's got sneakers. So a haircut is the secret. Oh, here we go. That's how we have. John's going to leave here.

When we go to these meetings, the analytics meeting and stuff? I'd shave my legs to not be where I'm at right now. Everybody heard that, right? Let's see a video that. Absolutely. You're going to shave your leg. Top 10th at Darlington? All right, here we go.

I'll shave his legs. You heard it here first. When we go to these analytics meeting, they're talking about all these numbers. I'm just rubbing my hair. I'm like, guys, I don't know if you know this is where it's at. You can talk about whatever you want. As long as I don't cut this, we're going to run good this week. If you think you're having a bad day, just remember Jeremy Clemens,

probably had a worst day. Jeremy Clemens is fast. Yeah. Right now he is. I mean, I know, and poor guy are, our adopted child there. Connor just wiped him out pretty early.

Was that what happened? Oh, yeah. Connor, I don't know, I kind of just missed the corner, lap one, I think. And he ran into the side of him and turned him around. And then he had more issues later in the race.

I can't remember what happened. I think he got turned around again. But he's fast. You know what I mean? Out of that alliance, whatever they got going on with, Haas has seemed to help him a lot. He was fastest in practice, qualified top 10 again, ran up front.

He was running when the top 10 got spun out. I still saw him come back through the field one time, but I know he had more trouble later. He had a long day on Saturday. But he's, it's fun to see him running well. Oh, Zilly had a rough weekend. Zilly did have roll. The cup thing wasn't his fault. The damn 47 pit in front of him stopped in front of me, run on the back of him.

And I don't think there was a wave or anything there. Luckily, it didn't happen. I'll tell you the one that I saw. Was you guys. I thought the 34 was going to drive straight through the back of the 21. I saw like Josh checked up to come to pit road and you got that like little slide where you go up a lane. And the 34, how he missed them, I don't really know. I just know that it was going to be tied Dylan, William Byron big if he didn't miss.

And thank God he did. I texted Gillen the other day and I said, the only thing I took away from today's race was that you probably shit your pants. And he said, bro, it was as close as I can get it. All right, Austin Powers. We won a Riley race and you start putting people into the corner like your Dr. Evil or something. Should you be penalized for that? Yeah, baby, yeah. He's talking about Sheldon Creed.

Oh, calling him Austin Powers. Are these real calls? Yeah. Yeah. That's Dawson. You guys got quite the production. I don't know. Yeah, I did see. I didn't know what led up to that.

Like if it had happened multiple times in the race, it looked like a little bit overkill to me. I don't know if you saw it, but the 54th or a little bit of a black. and Sheldon kind of just went in there and wiped him out. I don't know that that was necessary, but again, I don't know if it happened five, even if it happened five times in the race, like, I still don't think you need to wreck the guy to get your point across, but whatever. I don't, you know, maybe he didn't mean to do it. I don't know, maybe he probably hates that it happened like everybody else does, but.

Yeah! Fuck you, chase sexualist. Fuck you! What do you say? Chase sexuals. F you, he said. Yeah. He must be happy.

Chase for the second. Oh, Denny beat him? Oh, no, wait. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He mad that Denny won, so he's talking shit to the Chase Sexualists. Oh, okay. Okay. I think I think I piece it together now.

Can you play that again? Sure thing. I didn't hear what he said the first time. Yeah! Fuck you, Chase Sexualist. Fuck you! Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a Denny fan.

Yeah, yeah. You know what a Chase sexual is? I don't. It's a Chase Elliott fan on Dope Clear, apparently. They've named themselves over here, so it's a, that's like he said. said, our crowd is a little different. I mean, I'm talking about shaving my legs. Yeah, yeah.

Not one to judge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've been here an hour and now look at you. 98 straight race weekends. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut more often than Kyle Bush wins a race in Cup series. I'm just going to go ahead and look this battery charger up to my nipples and get this shit over with. Has it been 98 races? I guess, probably, yeah.

It's over two years. It was four. Yeah. Four Kyle Busch fans. Yeah, and he wasn't very good Like, I mean I guess you kind of know You're over there now

You know, what's the I mean, what's what you guys got going on? Can you not figure this the fuck out? I guess not. I mean, Jesus. There's just a lot going on in this one. Oh, boy. Here we go.

Yeah, we're about 34 bushlights deep And we're just wondering about the race, you know? I would say hung money has stepped on his pecker for the third race in a row and what would you say about Denny Hamless? I think Denny Hamless. He had a good race, you know.

But, you know, I wish you little Kyle also had a little good race after yesterday. But, you know, it's okay. That is what reaction theater is for. That's reaction theater right there. Getting hammered, drinking 34 bushlights and calling in. Denny even won? That sounds like a mid-race. That was a mid-race call, I think.

That's what happened. What did Larson do? I don't know. He was leading, then he fell back. I mean, I was saying he didn't. I don't remember him. Once they got him fourth or fifth, I think he's gotten at a little air and it was over. I don't know. I'm not sure.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't see him step on his pecker, as they said. To leave an audio message 24-7, you can call our number at 704-802-9-572, and we'll play the best ones each week on the show. I am personally excited to get into the shit show because we have our very own literal shit show that happened sitting right here next to us. I'm on it. What'd you do?

We got stuck in Oklahoma, right? So I woke up yesterday morning. It was a cracker barrel. It ended up being, ended up, it was 18 degrees. It was freezing. Still wind blowing. I walk outside. I'm walking. All of a sudden, I feel, boom. A bird shit on my head. So I'm like,

man, is that a piece of debris? A piece of debris? Two pieces of debris is crazy. I'm looking around. I said, something for you. fall, you know, because of the wind. So I went like this, I went, ah, man, so I had to walk halfway back already, back to the hotel,

washed, I had a hoodie on, thank God, right? Because it was cold. I washed my hoodie, cleaned it all up, and had to go back to crack barrel. Yeah, I got shit on. How much, I mean, was it a, was a healthy one? A healthy one of them. Like white or red berries mixed in? It was brown shit. It was like one of them black, blackbird shits. Relived the brown bomber

from the, from the Yeah, there's the text. I literally got shit on top of my head by a bird this morning. I guess Luke put it on his TikTok. I did see that. Yep. Big old brown shit. What is tick tag? That's Twitter. That's Twitter. Tommy thinks Tommy thinks we're all just hanging out with boxes of candy.

Thought was debris touched. It was shit. Let me tell you something. Tommy. Talk to text is exciting. Talk to text Tommy. Tommy is somebody said I've seen somebody say something about wanting to see me and Tommy's phone conversations. I don't know. No, you don't. They don't exist.

And I said, it'd be very boring. It is consisted of you at no. Leave me alone. I know the most that I, the most responses I've gotten out of him was when I texted him about the baby being bored. That's the most he's ever texting.

He's happy about it. I said the first time I've seen him smile in 25 years. Hell yeah. All right. So Tommy got shit on. What else? Other shit shows. We were sending a lot this weekend.

There was a lot this week. And I saw a Strickler flip somewhere. Well, NASCAR created an AI commercial. An AI. They got another one this week I saw with the 22 cars. It's got like four different generations of car. What's up with the spoiler? Oh, that's a COT car.

And it's got working taillights. What is that? That's an AI generated commercial. That's Fox's commercial for the Vegas race. That was a real ad? That was real. It had door handles on the door. You know, how do you think

How would the arrow be affected by that? Were they incorporating a drift? How many approvals did that go through? It must have had something else they were they were mixing in with it. No, that was it. No, that's for the Jiffy Loeb or the Pins Oil 400 presented by Jivey Loop at Las Vegas.

There's a couple. I mean, I don't know if you've made attention to you. People are even fake up there. Right. The sponsor that's on that car is no longer part of our company. I don't think. or at least not on that car. We have a COT

spoiler on it. We have working tail lights. We have a side view mirror. Door handle. If they only had footage of Reddick winning recently, you know, they could have used that. But it hasn't happened. Yeah.

Hasn't happened in two weeks. So the footage has already been archived. So that one, for me, that's the top of the shit show. I agree. How did I get flushed already? This isn't on the shit show list, but I have noticed that the F1 fans are getting a little taste of what our fans, like, mad all the time. Yeah. We were going to drag them down to our hell before long, and here they are.

I'm not saying that I'm wishing that on them, but like it's nice to have company. Right. It makes you feel a little less crazy over here. Yeah. I saw that last week where they were like they were they're mad. They're mad at the sport, and then the sport was weeding out some of the bad comments, and now they're even more mad about that. So that's good. Good to see. I like it.

If we're going to be miserable, everybody else might as well be too. Right. We're not miserable right now. I'm joking, Tom. We'll calm down. Oh, I was watching this live and stereo. Well, on the TV.

Live and stereo. On the TV. Crazy. He just like straight through the fence like it was paper. Yeah. I've seen a guy. I wish I could remember his Twitter handle right now. It's somebody that he has a Twitter that's associated with the 54 car or something like that.

I can't remember his name. but he was filming something from the front straightaway earlier that night and the guy was like, sir, you got to get away from the fence and he was kind of, thank God. He was kind of like, well, you know, I'm behind this fence, I'm behind this, I'm fine, and then an hour later that happens. He goes, okay, I get it, you know, like. A fight broke out at volunteer speedway.

I've seen these guys throwing haymakers at each other here. Oh, in the infield. Oh, he's still in his car. They need me and Kennedy. Yeah, where's Kennedy, there's Kennedy right there. Here comes this guy in a white. Oh, yeah. He squared him.

up too before he hit him. He's down. He's down. He better get out. Oh, now he's getting hit. Oh, yeah. He tripped over the fender. Damn. Then you got a dude recording it. Yeah, you always, always. Always got to have the. Oh, now buddy's getting out of his car. All right. Fight's over. Get back in there. Stay in there. Fight's over. Volunteer had a big week. I don't think we got a clip of it. Strickler. Strickler went for a barrel roll this week. Yeah, I sent you to ask him. Poor Strick. He's, we're going to, I'm going to see him later today. I said, I say, hey, we're going to go out on Tuesday if you want. If you're right side up. by then.

So what else we got? Oh, this was, were you up there for this? I heard a bunch of the fans going nuts. I'm like, what time is it? I saw this guy coming. This is before extended practice and or during extended practice, I should say. And I see this guy come hauling ass off the quarter mile in the safety truck and he is dead sideways. Like in the center of the corner.

And I'm just up there like. Do you think he practiced that? Like this is what he was going to do? I think first of all, it was a she. I believe a female driver is what I was told. I don't know. Awesome. But I think, I mean, it's got to be hard.

How much weight things in the back of those things? They're full of speedy dry. And that takes like a pendulum back there. I heard the crowd. I mean, not many people, the fans were going nuts. I'm like, what happened? That. That was, that was.

And I did say there was good news that that driver has now approved to run Arka. next week. It's going to be at, they're going to be at Hickory in a couple weeks. That'll be exciting. Oh, Chase Briscoe got pulled over outside the track. Did he? And then got a speeding penalty.

Sorry, Chase, your wish to that come true. That looks like the track in the background. It is. He got pulled over. That close? My only time getting caught speeding today, but... Hopefully. But then it wasn't. So he got speeding penalties on and off.

That's a race. a tough day. What car or driver announcement are you predicting will be the first domino to fall in the 2026 silly season? And follow-up, are there any silly season rumors starting to spin up? So, are you guys hearing

anything in the... It's March, so it sounds crazy to me that that would be happening, but I guess it is. I don't... I mean, you... I mean, even if you do know, you probably can't talk about it, but I think Kyle Bush is a name to keep an eye on. There's a lot of guys in contract years. I mean, Reddick is in a contract year.

Blaney might be. I don't remember if he resigned last year, but I know his was coming up. There's a lot of guys that are in contract years that'll be interesting to see. But that's like Kyle Bush is one. I think you've got to keep an eye on. I think there's places like Spire or somebody that might be after him, whether they get him to leave over there. Jesse Love is a name to keep an eye on.

He's got some, you know, he's got some stuff that, you know, he could potentially do. The legacy charter is going to be interesting to see what happens with that. Who goes in that car? That was a rumor for Jesse. I've heard that one cool down a little bit over the last few weeks or month or so. You got anything you want to announce? I mean, 21 cars. I'm trying to figure out what this means.

I guess I'm just stupid. The bottom is just, that's something different. That's later. We're going to go. You're going to get you. Oh, okay. He's looking at the driver's going on. What the hell's going on? No, no, no, no, no. We're on DBC. Well, then I wasn't listening.

What was the question? It was just silly season and announcements. We're talking about that now? That's what I said. It's funny, buddy. It's going to be, it's always. Somebody asked. We didn't bring it up.

They asked about it. I mean, you know, 21, you know, we got to get some good shit going on here, you know. Is Josh's contract up this year? I'm sitting this one out. I mean, you're the president. You got to tell us this stuff. Sitting this one out. Yeah.

My dad said, do not get in trouble. Yeah, I know. And he told you that. Well, he told me that, too. He goes, don't get that boy in trouble. Don't ask him. of dumb questions. Yeah, so we'll let you skip that one. I don't want to get you grounded. Yeah, I mean, that's really it. I mean, there's going to be a lot. I think that happens.

I bet you there's four to six seat changes for next year. Yeah, it's just going to be, like, and you're waiting for the first domino to fall to see what happens in that, you know, so if it's just hypothetically speaking, if Kyle were to leave the eight and go to the seven, what does that mean for Suarez? What does that mean for the eight car? Is that, you know, is that Jesse going up into the eight or? So now you're like, you just wait for one domino to start setting off other ones. And, you know, so. The biggest thing to me is where, where Corey Hym's going to end up.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I obviously, I probably need to sit that one out myself. You know, he's at, I don't think he's leaving 23-11. Now, what are they at? In a part-time role again? Like, it's hard to imagine that. How can you do that?

It's hard to imagine it. You're just wasting the kid's life of years of talent. I mean, look, you are. Well, no, I agree. He goes and wins a truck championship and then doesn't have a full schedule to race anything this year. Massively wins it, massively.

Not even close. And gets in the cup car and proves that he can race with them right away. And then he gets to sit on the fucking curb for half this year, which I think is just crazy. Yeah, I think he, yeah. I don't make the decisions. Don't worry, we'll say it all.

You don't have to. You just sit over there. We got one guy makes decisions. Don't want to say anything. One guy doesn't make the decision. You don't want to say anything. You got you just running your mouth. We're in good shape.

Yeah. You over there making Tic Tacs? Corey's great. That's all I can say. All right. Well, that is it for AskDBC. Now, John, you can look at the fancy charts that we have. It's DBC Picks.

I think you go first, too. I finally won. It's on this sheet. Find your page here. Find your page here. Find your page. Get on the right page. You guys.

I can't believe where this one you race is in, and the guests haven't won a single one yet. Thank God. Oh, this is for this weekend? Like picking this week. Yeah. So you just can't pick the guys that are, like, grayed out, like Denny and Hosevar. This is a winner?

Yeah, whoever. It's just against each other. So, like, you just got to have the best guy of the four of us. I'm going to pick Blaney. Okay, good pick. Who goes next? I didn't you pick Josh. I'm going to pick Blaney.

Base hits, Tom. Oh, yeah. That's it. That's a, to your point with the haircut and me shaving my legs, I don't want to, don't want to jinx it. No jinxing. I go, right? Yeah. With your six-place finish.

Six-place finish. I'm going to pick Bubba. Bubba. Yeah, I can handle that for you. I am going to take Chase Ellion. Oh, I didn't see that he was available. Take Chastain. Chastain's another good pick.

He's always been fairly good there. Yeah. Freddie, we're tied. Two and two wins. I know. I thought I had a shot early. I thought Ty was really good. Ty had a really good weekend. Where did you pick Custer at? Does that what that means?

I said it was a throwaway. I don't remember where it was. Oh, yeah. She says, oh, it's a throwaway. I'll pick Cole Custer. What's Cole Custer done to anybody? Well, at Cota, it's... What a nice guy and you say. I just, fine. I'll just pick this guy. So this is like those pool things where you can only pick one driver once. Yeah, don't let it. All right. We got a little controversy from last year.

We screwed. Tommy saved SVG all year and that he didn't realize we reset when the playoffs started or the chase. I've gotten more hate on the social media over saying playoffs versus chase the last three weeks on their show. People are going nuts about it. I don't understand. It's not that big a deal. The more you complain about what I say, I'm going to continue to say the wrong thing just to bother people. Winners, Tommy, you got any winners?

Who won? Carson Ware won. Pro late model. Did he win it? Yeah. That's good. There was some. Lofton won the modified portion of it at Carraway.

It wasn't really much going on in the Caroliners. Most of the stuff happened. Caroliners. Caroliners. A lot of stuff happened in Vegas, right? Who won the sprint car? Sprint car was Larson and Day had that really good race on Thursday night. I was there Friday night, day one.

He won that one pretty handily. And then Reitzel won Saturday night, I think. Yeah, I had Lofton. down. Jace Hansen won the Cars Tour West race. Harve was leading that one. Cut a tire would look like seven or eight to go or something like that. Kevin was leading. And then Jace Hansen held off Keelan to win the race.

Carson Brown is a name that we keep hearing a lot. He won the ASA race this week. He won the Arca race. I think it was Arca West. No, that was just a straight up Arka Race, Arcana National Series. Phoenix, yeah. I don't know a lot about that kid, but his name's popping up a lot lately, and that's a good sign. Yeah, he's getting himself putting good positions, a really good late model team

with the Campy brothers. Originally, that family's from Long Island, just so you know. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, they got a new chassis manufacturer, new car manufacturer, and they are wearing them boys out. Preston Peelette. Peltier. Yeah, from out west. He used

to work for Hendrick. Really good fabricator and building a badass hot rider. I saw him at the derby, and he was talking about maybe not running just because he was trying to focus on building race. But he still fast. he drives too. I think he's on a poll.

Yeah. This year at the Derby. Our buddy, Austin Reeves, who won the Crown Vic race at Montgomery a couple weeks ago, tagged us all this week to let us know that he also won the Crown Vic race at Five Flags. They must run with ASA or sometimes. So he back to back. Does he do Cletus's tour?

I don't know. He, he, the Crown Vic is, like, doesn't look like it's got a ounce of pain on it. Nope. It looks like a shoe polish number on the door. and wears him out and wears him out. So good for him.

Who won the late model races? World Outlaw. Somebody. I don't know. Somebody. I went back. Oh, didn't J.D. win this weekend?

Jonathan Davenport? He won last week. I don't know. I didn't. We're not doing it. We have done a terrible job for today. Here's what I will say. By the way, a lot of the stuff we talked about, you can watch on Flow.

Which you can get 15% off if you visit flow sports. I was waiting when that plug was coming. I saw that at the top, highlighted in yellow. One thing I'm going to have to get on Flo a little bit about. I know that they are, I don't know if they're part owner in the High Limit series, but I need you to help me out a little bit because when I go back to refresh my list at the end of the week, make sure I got everybody from Flo, all the big races. We said that a couple weeks ago.

I know. But this week I went back because this was the first high limit race this week, that's all there was. It was 500 posts about High Limit. So it's a little harder to weed through. But, I mean, it's awesome for High Limit there. I think that's a really cool series. They're trying to do a lot of cool things for a sprint car racing with Brad and Kyle and Flo.

So that's cool. But I need you little help. Like, tag some other videos. I think what really screwed us up, West Coast time. We just lost a lot of West Coast. I mean, yes. Plus, you were stuck in Oklahoma. Oklahoma.

Yeah, you were in Oklahoma. I was a mess. Can't think of any worse places to be stuck. John, you plan on going to the racetrack this week? When are you coming to see us? Have you been there at all this year? As a president, there's some bitch don't even go.

That's because he's working on his yard. He's got issues with his yard. I got to have a backup plan. Let me hear the yard problem. What's the story about it? I didn't hear this before. He is like OCD on his grass. It's not a problem, but like I'm just really, really bad at,

I'm good at making it green. But what I'm bad about is like making the money part of it makes sense. And I'll give me an example. So I got tired of using a push mower And I don't mow anybody's yard I do treatments commercially But I don't mow So I get tired of mowing my own yard

Because I don't have time with a push mower And I'm certainly not going to let some idiot do it That's not me So I go to the commercial mower place And I'm like hey I need a commercial mower And they're like how many yards you're doing? I said one One?

Like one a minute And I said no like mine Oh you don't need that And I said yes I do So I bought like a It was like a $10,000 standard on commercial mower, take it home, use it once, hate it. So I called him, I said, hey, do you have like a buyback or a trade-in?

They're like, we'll just bring it, and we'll take care of you. Okay. So I go, and they took care of me. So that $10,000 one that I paid was $4,000 trade in a day later. So I'd get another one for like 10 more, paid it. But I kept it for like a month. So I've had three mowers. I've got like $25,000 in mowers.

And the third one is worth like a, third of that. Yeah. And it's for me. Now we've got that one. Well, we need to recoup some of those costs. I recently,

I now have a yard that I'm responsible for mowing and I don't want to do it. So if you want to come home. Can you bring your trailer down? Can you bring your commercial mower down? Aren't your kids old enough yet? No. I can't trust that. I can't trust in to brush their teeth.

Trust them with a mower. Oh, I'm the same way already. I mean, still. Not already. Oh, Tommy, where are we going? This is anything good? South Boston. Modifies

This week. Biggest paying race Monified race of the year. If I remember correctly, that was an exciting one last year. Oh, it was. Was it?

I was just I don't remember. What was last year? Something happened. Oh, yeah. Motherfuckers. Tired of you, motherfuckers. That's where that picture back there

came from. The King of the Modified. That was gone. I thought we replaced it. We were supposed to be known it with Carson and Kennedy. Yeah, that's all right. It's a fun.

But that's a really cool event. And Elliot Sadler's running, that's going to be cool. Luke's teammate, yeah. Did he test yet? Yeah, last week said he loved it. Yeah. I seen a picture of who drove it the last one, Connor Hall. Yeah.

And the picture I saw, he's over the curve. Oh, yeah. The left front lower, just dragging the curve. He said he got a little bit too much, he told Luke that lap. Yeah, I would say so. I'm begging LW to do it. I'm begging LW. And everybody out there is begging him not to.

So, yeah. I think if you get him and Savali in the same thing, 79 together. Let's do it. I race with LW a little bit in the truck series. Yeah. Was he crazy then too? Well, the thing he was, the thing, the thing truck that he was driving was, it was a turd.

It was not good. No. So like in his defense, like, that's not really fair. But I do remember him. And yeah, he's colorful. He was good to modify it. There's a Facebook memory that pops up every year from when him and Savali got into it. I think it was at Carraway one of the times.

And I was. Too young to have Facebook, but I did. And, like, it comes up every year, and it's me just MF. I mean, not obviously, but, like, just bitching about James Seval. I'm 12 years old. And I'm, like, stupid James Savali only cares about himself. Like, the most 12-year-old way to say it. But, yeah, I keep asking me.

Savali is Savali. I love Savali. He was, they said he led a bunch of that race on Saturday or something that happened. I don't know. I didn't see any of it. He blew up for his six time that week. Have a lot of problems with that. car sometimes.

So that's it for you this week. And then we're running in Darlington. And then we're running Martinsville the next week with the modified rate. Is that next week? Yeah. Yeah. Fun. Those are three races I can go to.

There you go. They're all driving distance. You son of a bitch. Barton's Bill Bristol. I'm there, baby. John's going to three in a row. He's checking them off the list this week. All right.

So your dad and your uncle. Yeah. They're creatures of habit, right? Absolutely. I mean, they're at the age. they wake up at the same time. They dress the same way. They do the same roots to the track.

They're going to Darlington. Where do they stop? Tell, like, what's their routine? Darling? They have a restaurant, special restaurant they go to. They all have, all the old people. They know these. All the old people.

All the old people. Careful, Tom. I mean, the older people, they have these places that they go to. What are yours? Well, the one that we always used to go to, down right next to the track they used to have you know the hamburger hamburger and onions there glover turned me on to that years ago but you got redbone alley right still and there's a great brewery right down the road from there that that opened up a couple years ago it's got good band

a lot of TVs so we can go watch a lot of sports that I go to I can't even remember the name damn it but great place the thing that's disrupted them though is now they fly race day instead of going out on Wednesday when the truck leaves the shop they now go on Sunday. And so that's... So what do they do those days? Who do they bother? I mean, they got it.

It's different for them. Did they bother you during... Well, but like I told you earlier, so anytime I'm there, they can rely on me to, like, elbow my way into the racetrack. And they don't... If I get bitched at by somebody, an official or, like, the track worker that says, let me see a hard card. That type of person, it's fine if I do it.

But if I'm not there, there's nobody to, you know, that. So they land in Vegas this weekend and I get a text and I'm at baseball practice, my primary job. And I look down and it's Lynn and he's like, no rental car. Well, like I just, it's like I can feel my body going into the ground. Because I'm not there and I know it's going to be my fault that there's no rental car. Somehow they got another one.

I don't know how they did it. But point being, I help them out. That's my. role. Yeah. The one thing I can tell you that's traditional about Darlington is do not speed in McBee. Don't. There's two spots, man.

You can't speed. And you can't get out of those tickets. No. I've gotten them in both spots. I've gotten tickets in both those spots. My wife got one two years ago and I text Josh, the track president. And I'm like, hey, you know any about it? No, man.

Yeah, we do, but you're not getting out of that one. I got pulled over there one time. I didn't get a ticket. I got pulled over there. It's right by the train tracks there. It's 25 miles an hour. I was running 28 and got pulled over. He's like, you better watch your speed.

I'm like, bro. And it's like 45, 35, 25, 25, 25 within 100 feet. It goes from 55 to 25 and 100 feet. Another one is where the Exxon is on both sides of the road. You have your choice of Exxon or Exxon. That one, there's always a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, you got another spots.

They hit their quota for the year during Darlington Week. I got a ticket there leaving through there leaving at right over to railroad tracks, right? It's six miles down the road and I get pulled over again. I'm like, no. No. He's like, I already got mine for today. He's like, no, I just got pulled over.

Yeah, I am not getting another ticket. I'm good. I got it. So you didn't learn from the first ticket. That stretch of highway, whatever that highway is called, you know, it just runs through all those different towns. there's no road in America that changes speed limits more. It's like 55, 65, 65, 60, 45, 30, 15, 15, school zone.

The school's been out of business for like 20 years. That school hasn't been open. You still got to slow down in the school zone there, though. Oh, boy. And last point, not to keep, but if you get the ticket in a certain county or whatever it is, you go to court like eight counties over because they don't have their own courthouse. so you don't know who to call to get it straightened out

or what law year. But that's fucked up that they're the ones that are giving the most tickets and the most things and they don't even have their own courthouse. They got to make them, this is the only time

they're going to catch us all. I know, but they don't even have their own courthouse to... Yeah. So if anybody's listening out there, whoever gets caught, send us a picture. Yeah, yeah, you're going to get caught.

You'll see, you'll know, there's a sign still there. There's always a sign is like pointing at you. Like, don't speed. For next week's shit show, let's just see how many pictures we can get from people getting pulled over and make me. Now people will be doing this on purpose.

There's going to be an abundance of speeding and be this there's going to be a lawsuit. It's fucking podcast. It's Freddie and Tommy's fault. Oh, not mine. And that damn John Woody. Okay, we can't even get a court date now. Because like you always call the old man

lawyer that walks with a cane in these parts. It's right beside the courthouse and he just goes and makes it disappear. There is none of that. Because there's no courthouse. Oh, John, what's that? So you're going to go to Darlingville? I will be there.

What's your week look like here preparing to go to Darlington? I know you probably have meetings throughout the week with different departments. I have meetings. I will assume you call, I mean, the press, can you call one meeting? Do you have a meeting? You texted me Sunday night and said, hey, I'm not going to be back Monday. Can we do Tuesday? And I'm like, let me check my schedule.

Yeah. So that was just a pause? Let me pretend that I'm busy. As you can see, it's big. his dilemma has been the lawnmowers. Which one do I not like the most? So far as the lawnmowers rental cars on social media is where we've narrowed down baseball. And getting out of tickets.

Getting out of tickets. But anyway, yeah, I think that's it. We will be back next week. I don't remember who I have lined up or who I talked to to to come on. I think it's going to be a spotter. I'm trying to get one that may be racing next weekend or the we following weekend. We're seeing what that he's testing. but thank you guys for listening.

We'll be back. Happy St. Patty's Day. I did want to say our condolences to those officials, the safety workers. What a shame, the one gentleman I didn't, I didn't get their names, but he was from the racetrack, I think.

He passed away, and then one of the world outlaws officials, what a sad deal, man, just responding to try to help somebody else out and something like that happened. So really sad to see that, and we're thinking about them and their families. But thank you guys for listening.

We'll be back next week after Darlington. Hopefully with another good run and I'll still look like an idiot. So have a good one. We're out. Bye. Check out Dirtymo Media on Instagram, Facebook, X, and TikTok.