DOUBLE COVERAGE PODCAST - NFL Legend Cris Carter GOES OFF on Jerry Jones, Rips Ceedee Lamb, & Picks Packers To Win Super Bowl

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

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Haven't you been seeing all these things going through the news, especially in entertainment and everything, people compromising their self for the sake of money or fame? Be careful what you say now. Because the first thing is let me spit on you for that. And then next thing is, hey, well, shit, if I sent you down there, well, what else would you do for money? No, I don't know.

No, I'm not thinking like that, bro. No, no, no, no. Oh, now you're a finish. Yeah, bro. I just spit on you. And you didn't say nothing. You was good with it. You right.

You right. You got me, bro. You got me. What's up guys, Mr. Zach here. Welcome back to double coverage. Love the intro. What's up, guys? How y'all doing?

So, man. How are you? Doing well, bro. Pretty sad from last week. But, you know, I'm hoping to bounce back this week. Because, bro, it was a very interesting week. It was. It was really interesting.

Why historic? The closest batch of week one games we ever had. What was your favorite game of the week? My favorite game of the week was definitely Bill's Ravens. I couldn't watch it. I was streaming. But I did see Derek Kennedy phone with the ball. It was fucking crazy.

I wish I bet, bro. Like in the fourth quarter, I wouldn't want a shit ton of money You would have a fuck ton of money if you bet on Buffalo's money line in the fourth quarter. Josh Allen, the goat. Also, the best offensive lineman to ever touch the game, Dion Dawkins, I love you, bro. It's a goat, and Dion. They subbed him out, but... Did you?

Yeah, no, they subbed him out in the game. But it was just like, it was bullshit. They shouldn't have subbed him out. Yeah, how about Zoe posting, I can't believe how bad the Ravens killed the bills. He was doing security at the time, so he didn't really see what happened at the end of the game. But it was a fucking crazy one, bro. I would have paid to watch his face. you read the box score, though.

I was in front of him. He was like, how the fuck is he even possible? Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of people, like, fell asleep at halftime, woke up to see that, a lot of shocked faces. Yeah. How about the start of the week? Cowboys Eagles gets chippy. We got linemen throwing punches.

We got Jalen Carter spitting on Dak. That's what makes a sport fun, though. I'm not a football player, but looking third person, like, bro, shit, it's very entertaining, bro. And then you come later and you see Dak spit on him first. No, he's spit on the ground. Well, all right, if a guy spits on the ground next to, what are you doing? Nothing. You serious?

Yeah, it wasn't targeted at him. Yes, where he looked him in the eyes and spit right on the ground. Yeah, but it was like to him. He's always spitting. Even when he was a basketball game, he's got like a spit cup in front of him. For real. Yeah. How do you know this much, bro?

Yeah, well, Dax's like, he's a Walter Pate Man of the Year winner. He's a good guy. He's not trying to spit on anyone. Shouts of Dack. Yeah. Jalen Carter took it very far. Very far. We got our upcoming guests pointing at me making me feel good.

He liked that little knowledge right there. How do you know that Dack has a spit cup in an NBA game, bro? Are you a freak? You gotta do your research. I'm a freak. Yeah, bro. It's like some, like, you're like watching him court side? Crazy.

I'm not a freak. That's crazy, bro. That's crazy. But yeah, obviously, Dax not ever going to be an ill-attending guy, you know? Yeah, for sure. Yo, Dac, hop on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, Dak. We're trying to get you on.

We even defended you against Shady, who looked a little silly after that game. True. And I was supposed to have Dack in fantasy. I didn't have him. Bro, real quick, now that we're talking about the Cowboys. Michael fucking Parsons, bro. That sack right there, he probably felt like crazy after that, bro. He did.

But you got to remember it's Jared Goff. It's blinds up, right? He can't. Do you think Jared Goff's a good quarterback? He's a system quarterback. There's like a stat. He's like 0-19 under certain, like, without getting play calls from certain people. I don't know.

He's great in certain conditions. Yeah. He's great with certain play callers. He's great in certain situations. If he has a strong run game, he can get the play action going. He can get in a rhythm. But under pressure, under duress, he's not the quarterback. So who do you think played the best last week?

Who was I the most... You know I benched Herbert? Impressed by? Why would you bench Herbert? Because my fucking chat, bro. No, my chat. They were like, oh, play Stroud, you're a Texans fan. We got shit on, bro. You think the neon chat should decide?

No, they're done. They're done. They suck. They don't know what they're doing, but they're done. Yeah, I don't know what the average age or football knowledge is. It was just... Here's my thing, bro. As the Texans, we don't have like targets, bro. Like, we don't have enough receivers for us to even fucking have a good game,

bro. Offensive line sucks. It was just terrible. We're so sad. I was supposed to go to the game. thank God I didn't. Yeah, I think the most impressive, I mean, you've got to give it to Daniel Jones and the Indianapolis Colts. Going out there steamrolling the Miami Dolphins like that.

Daniel Jones silencing all the doubters, probably been more hated on than almost any other player in the NFL. I don't think anyone expected him to come out like that. It is one week, though. It's one week, but I think he's probably the biggest winner of week one. Okay. Because all of a sudden a guy who has been, shit on by every single analyst, players, etc., goes out there and does that, right? Especially after the coach. Granted in the starting job over Anthony Richardson, which also got a lot of hate.

Crazy. I bet on the Chiefs, and they lost, bro. How did that even happen, bro? Yeah, also, Wu bet on the Chiefs. I know. That's how I got the bet from. Why would you take a bet from Wu? That's worse than your chat.

Yeah, no, it's pretty fucked. Wu? Can we put up a picture of Wu? Thank you. It was a bad bet, bro. It was bad. Shout to Wu, though. I kept giving him winning picks, and then he would blow it all on his picks.

I'm following your shit next week, bro. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm only going to listen to you, Zach. You're the best. And then he's like, I bet it all in the Chiefs. I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, bet on the over. That seemed like a good bet, bro.

What about that was good? I didn't think the charges were going to come out like that at all. They're a well-coached team. They got a great quarterback. They have, they, the charges are dangerous. You think so? Yeah. Who surprised you?

Herbert, Harbaugh. They draft Hampton. Like, there's a lot of pieces there. Who surprised you other than the Colts? Oh, man. The Colts shocked the hell out of me. Who surprised you? Let me think about this.

The fucking Texans, bro. That we lost. That was shocking for you, huh? It was pretty, bro. It was low-scoring game, only field goals. I was pissed, bro. Were you? I mean, yeah, bro.

No, I know. I was so happy. Because I had the Rams. Yeah. You told me to even, like, look to the camera and smile and pose. Remember that? I do remember that. Yeah.

Didn't age very well, huh? Not at all. Fucking Years Falcons. That was a classic. Yeah. Good games. Browns almost knock off the Bengals. What a week?

I had T. Higgins and fantasy did not do good. My fantasy team shit the bed, bro. Shrker. I'm shocked You didn't draft a good team Well, you didn't help me, bro You didn't ask I was using my fucking chat

Yeah, well maybe you need to You know, do fantasy for a different sport Yeah, I lost 5K Yeah, it's all good I need to take a bet for 5K You lost 5K? Yeah, bro, where a winner gets 60K

You had to put 5K in That wasn't my sponsor I didn't pay yet though So I'm not gonna Yeah, no, don't pay it Yeah, no Well, it's other streamers I don't want to like, you know

Piss them off but Yeah, nah You're good They were probably featured on the Friday night game though Had to bring it up, huh? You know, I'm seeing everyone. You know, motherfuckers sitting there with the commissioner and shit.

I'm just sitting at home watching. It's kind of, you know, it's fucked. Yeah, they didn't show any love the double coverage this time. They got to bring us out. Yeah, next time. Yeah, yeah. We're going to email Godell. We're going to make sure double coverage is live.

I don't think he's reading our email, bro. He might read our email. We got to, like, send a note to his house. That's true. That is fire. Yep. Congratulations to us and the team. We put it all together and we did our thing.

One episode in. I'm still learning. You do it. Bro, you've done a thousand of these. I've done 10 of these. I'm still learning. Thank you to my bookie for believing in us as well. We were talking about it.

Like streaming compared to podcasts is so different. Like streaming, it's, to me, easier to you, it's harder. Yeah. Podcasts are, it's like, I don't know, it's more chill. We have the gift of editing. Yeah. They have no idea what we said that we cut out. I don't like that, though.

I mean, remember the last episode? I cream they could deal with no cuts. You smacked the producer and we cut it out? Yeah. Yeah. And you yell those expletives at them and we had to cut it out. Let's make a deal. We can't cut anything from now on.

Okay, deal. This is like the most natural, organic shit ever. We can't cut. No, no cuts. Okay, cool. Yeah. Last time we opened up the show, like, they messed up your drink order and you started like smacking.

I was like, too, chill, neon. You're like, we're going to cut it out. How do you lie like this, bro? What? Now, have you ever spoken to an NFL Hall of Famer, an active one? No. I have not. Today's the day.

Wait, Lechon McCoy. He's not a Hall of Famer. For real? Nope. Oh, that's fucked. He's actually eligible this coming year. Yeah, he got to get it. He could be a future one.

He's on the cusp. But the guy we're having on was more of a surefire one. Let's bring him in. Let's go. Eight-time pro bowler, NFL Hall of Famer, Mr. Chris Carter. What's up, guys? It's Ms. Exact here from the double coverage podcast. Our lead sponsor, MyBooky.orgia.orgia is running a promo right now

where you can deposit up to $500 and get a bet-backed bonus token. That means if you make a play and it doesn't hit, you're still in the game. But I've got to play for this Saturday that I think will help ensure that you stay in the game. When Saul Canel Alvarez takes on Terrence Bud Cross, Connello is a 16 time world champion. Crawford, a 13 time world champion. Both these guys are pound for pound giants and they're colliding for an epic clash.

Crawford, the champion at 147 pounds, 140 pounds. Canello, the current champion at 168 pounds. Crawford did last contest at 154 pounds, so it is a two-way class jump for him. And I think that's just too much. Canello for this camp seems very locked in. He brought in boots Ennis to help ensure that he gets that best look for Crawford.

for Crawford. And when I look at these two guys, I see Kennell Alvarez coming out on top. And when you make that bet, use code double. That's D-O-U-B-L-3 at mybooky.orgie. And that's endorsed by Mistyxac from double coverage. And now we are welcome by The Man, the Myth, the Legend, eight-time pro bowlers, 130 career touchdowns, NFL Hall of Famer, Mr. Chris Carter. How are you doing? Very good. How you guys doing? Let me get one. Yeah, get that doubt.

I've never been around the Hall of Fame. ever okay well you said you were doing an interview with shady mccoy yeah potentially eventually he'll be a hall of famer for sure but current yeah right it's in that discussion for sure yes i live in florida but i sleep in canton yes okay that's where the hall of fame is oh shit yeah NFL hall of fame's in kenton ohio cool birthplace of football speaking of hall of famers i want to ask you this off the bat we're gonna go we're just gonna get right into it okay i saw a post asante samuel had some choice words And then I saw Mr. Terrell Owens chime in and agree with him. Well, me and Terrell Owens have never been friends from way back in the day.

And Asante Samuels was basically trying to come to the rescue of Chad Johnson. Because I had said Chad Johnson was not a Hall of Fame. So then all of a sudden Asante, who never played against me and no one ever told him that, that Chris Carter was overrated, then he chimed in. so he's trying to fight a fight for Chad Johnson but which was really child's play because the facts are what they are but why is so you and Tio have never gotten along no so if you saw him right now like it wouldn't be like a tap up handshake no no no we wouldn't speak to each other seriously yeah this should get deep oh my god it ain't no problem I mean the whole world it's 350 million people in the United States

yeah function without one person now he might not think so but it's still spinning Damn. Hall of Fame dinner. If they sat you guys next to each other, would you be like not? No, we wouldn't sit next to you. And he doesn't show up to Hall of Fame. Like, he doesn't recognize the Hall of Fame. But you do that.

Oh, absolutely. That's some real shit. Yeah. It's the greatest honor as an athlete. Yeah. It's the most respectful thing that anybody can say. It's the answer to all the questions at the barbershop. When you go get your hair cut and ask, hey, man, how good was that guy?

Oh, he was a Hall of Fame. Oh, okay. And that goes through any decade. that goes through any conversation that makes it simple enough. Is there like a Twitch Hall of Fame? We should make one. Eventually there's going to be one. Yeah.

Are you tapped into streaming at all or not really? Not like you guys, no. Okay. No, not like that. Would you ever like do your own stream? I wouldn't do it. I'd have to be drug into something. Okay.

Like you guys were talking about doing like McAfee. Yeah. Then I'd like to be one of the old OGs on the side and everything. Been like, oh, now that was stupid. You never should be fired. We got a weird random question for you. Go ahead. Now that I have you here.

Like, who's the worst quarterback you had to play with? Like, in my last year with the Vikings, his name was Spurgeon, when? I think he has the lowest quarterback rating in the history of the NFL. Damn. And my last game with the Minnesota Vikings, we are playing the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore. And we put a play in, the coach swore up and down. I was going to be open, going across the middle. They happen to have a linebacker, though, by a number of 50s.

by the name of Ray Lewis. And I knew Ray when he saw the play, he would recognize it. And he wouldn't go on the undercoverage. He would come on me because I'm a primary guy. And Spursy win. I told him when they put the play in, don't listen to the coach. Do not throw me the ball on that play. Go to the underneath coverage because Ray's going to take me.

He didn't listen to me, looked away from the undercoverage, threw it right to me. And then Ray Lewis smack me right across the face going across the middle. Hardest you've ever been hit? It was definitely one of the hardest. When I got back to the huddle, I had a few choice words for Spurgeon win. Has there ever been a defender that you or your teammates feared more than Ray Lewis? I don't, I think that respect would probably be the right word. There's not a lot of guys playing in the NFL that are fearful.

You have to be able to respect their talent. You're able to put in a game plan to make sure they don't wreck the game plan. But he is a ridiculously great player. even amongst great players, he's a great player. Like if the Hall of Fame had an extra level of Hall of Fame, I think he would... I mean, you can say that. We don't like to debate at the Hall of Fame

because we're all on the same team now. Yeah, like all centuries. We let other people, you know, do that, but there's no doubt that Ray Lewis was a special, special football player, and that's what the Hall of Fame, the recognition for that is worth it. Nowadays in the NFL,

who do you think is like the most underrated player on the defensive end right now because there's a lot of people that like their names go unknown but they're doing really good word okay as far as the the most underrated it's hard to be underrated in the NFL you know like especially now because there's so many sets there's so many people looking at the game and there's so many coaches that will get you in a specific situation for the talent that you have and be able to isolate it now there might be a couple guys that you didn't necessarily know about and then they pop on the screen and they end up having a big year

and they end up having a good career. But that's what the NFL is about, accumulating the maximum amount of talent and then highlighting that talent by seeing what you can do, what you can't do, and then putting you in situations with the things that you can do and do them well and try to get you to repeat that.

So it is a, it's a, I mean, there's still underrated players. I would say Baker Mayfield is an underrated. player. I mean, there's even players in the Hall of Fame that I do believe are still underrated players. Receiver Isaac Bruce, underrated player. Defensive back, Rhonda Barber, you know, underrated player when they played in the

league, played on big, those teams that accumulate a number of Hall of Famers, Troy Aitman, underrated, you know, as a Hall of Famer. So they're still out there. And there's still a handful of guys that you target. I believe that Danny Dimes, you picked him up Indy being the best quarterback this week. He looked like a totally different guy. Yeah. Totally dropped back, not the dual threat that they were trying to do with the Giants.

He looked like that game when the Giants beat the Vikings in the playoffs. Like he looked that good playing for the Colts. But there's a few guys flying under the radar, but those are a couple offensively defensively. Yeah. I rate you, Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, and Michael Irvin as the four best receivers. to enter the NFL in the late 80s. You guys came in, had instant impacts, lit it up. Who would you say are the top four guys in the league today

at the receiver position? Well, first of all, I appreciate the compliment. And all those guys, great guys. All the, myself, Tim Brown, and Michael Irvin were all on the same high school All-American team. Are you serious? Yeah. That's crazy.

That's crazy. Yeah, USA Today, 1983, December, like the second week of December. December edition, we were the three receivers. And then when we went to college, Timmy at Notre Dame from Dallas, Michael from down here, Fort Lauderdale, went to Miami, and me from Ohio, went to Ohio State. We were all American, first team, All-American.

Imagine having that newspaper. Fuck. With those three names on it? And then we had multiple Pro Bowls that we were together, and then now teammates in the Hall of Fame. But today's game is really centered around, okay, who are the other two? Because Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.

you boys are clearly the best two receivers in the league now to me there's a handful of guys after that that you know amon st brown um tyreek hill a j brown you know those guys right there are kind of in that collection of you know the next guys those are the guys depending on what kind of flavor ice cream um that you like but those are the guys when i look at and i talk about and when I watched them week in and week out. Those are the guys, to me, that have the highest skill level. And a lot of young receivers coming up. You omitted a name.

He had a really rough week one, C.D. Lamb. Yeah, C.D. Lam's in there. Okay. Yeah. I didn't admit him by, no. It wasn't by choice. No. He's definitely one of the top ones.

What did you take? This is a bad week, bro. Yeah, what do you take away from his week one? I mean, every receiver is obviously. No, I've never had no game like that. You've never had a game like that. No. Well,

So, so, who did not. I mean, he didn't have one crucial pass. He dropped two crucial passes. He's going to come back strong, though. But we weren't talking about that. We were talking about what he, what happened in the game. It's a soft subject, my boy. But, no, I mean, if you're going to be a player, like, it.

They were brutal. They were brutal drops. That's unacceptable. Dropping the football is unacceptable to me, because that's all you learn from dropping the ball is how to drop the ball. Like, it's against the law to me. Not loud. So he has two big time drops.

Myself and Larry Fitzgerald, I know you don't know this. We're the only two players in the history of the NFL. Have more tackles and drops? Yeah, you knew Larry. You didn't know I was in there because someone printed Larry lately. Yes, we have more tackles on interception

than we have drop past. There's levels to this. So when you see a guy have dropped, are you just like trying to wrap your head around it? No, I know in the moment there's two things that happened. And one, he saw the other defender and he took his eyes off the ball.

And the second one down the sideline, like, that's just, if you're going to be an all-timer, you're going to make that catch. Like, you're going to make that play because his arms weren't totally extended. If they're totally extended, no. It's like only maybe a 5% chance.

But his arms were partially extended, which meant he had enough margin on the ball in judging it that he could have pulled an end. and he hit both of his hands. He can go off his fingertips or anything like that. Like, this is just to fax it again. Like, it's done again. I love CD.

CD came down here for his pre-combine workout, and we got him ready, did all his drafting, did all his interview, did all his coverage, got him ready for his interview, everything. Got him in shape, put some extra pounds of muscle on him. Like, CD, he's a baller. No, no, he's a baller, but he had a horrific game because he had the chance to be the hero.

Like, yeah. But he said after the game immediately, he said, no, I dream about it. Like, I want to be in that position.

No, like he's a stand-up guy. Like, he, yeah, he's not trying to hide from it. They said he was, after the game,

he was catching passes from the drugs. Absolutely. He should have. Yeah. It'd been like Steph Curry. If Seth Curry had gone five for 30, like, I guarantee the,

damn, that's a quick, would, if you drop two deep passes in the four-quarter, that, what do you think that is? You think that's five for 10,

five for 15? That's five for fucking 30. You're right. Let's go. Get back to the gym and get some J's up. Facts. Yeah. And you want to get those bad thoughts out of there.

So he didn't want to go to practice. He don't want to go. I'm getting this out of here right now. See the ball, catch it in your hands, all those things. That's a professional approach about it. So prior to the game, we spoke about us a little bit, but I want to get your take on it. Jalen Carter spits on Dak Prescott. Do you ever have an incident like that?

And what would your reaction be if, like, a DB came up to you? before the game and spit on you? No, if the, first of all, if the DV would have ever done that, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have made it to the Hall of Fame. Like, I would, I'd still be looking for him. Like, no, that's not getting ready to happen, man. Like, you're not getting ready to spit on me. But also, I'm not ready to get in somebody's face

that they're going to think that spitting would be appropriate, or I'm not going to make any gestures that they would think that I was spitting on them. Because it's probably the nastiest thing you can do as a human being. Yeah. it's like the biggest line of disrespect. Yeah, like, so, you know, that I thought the league should have suspended him another game. Even though he missed this whole game, they should have suspended him another game because you got too many people, you got too many young people watching the game.

And shit, guess what? Florida, look at what, three or four days later, kid from Florida spits on a kid from South Florida in a game in college. Damn. So they could have, they could have, if they were giving him a two game suspension, send down the hammer, because all these kids looked to the NFL for everything, Yeah. Then maybe this dummy at Florida wouldn't spit on this other kid from South Florida. Like, no, that's this.

If someone tried you like that, there would have been no stopping you from. No. No, absolutely not, man. Like, no, I would never do anything to deserve that. Yeah. Even if I had done something to deserve that, you shouldn't have done that to me. I'd still be looking for you. Respect.

I mean, no, no one's, no one's spitting, especially on a quarterback, man. But I was looking at it and it's hard to see really on the video and everything. But Dak on his jersey, he's got the NFL logo right there in the middle. He's got the captain over here on this shoulder on the right one. And he's got the NFL man of the year logo on the other one. Dude spit right in between them, everything we stand for. Jeez. You literally spit on the NFL.

Yeah, this is one of our pillar citizens in the NFL. He did get fine, though. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that's a lot of the NFL. these guys got money. They don't care about the fine. I mean, money is money. It still hurts. No, it doesn't. But the money doesn't go to DAC. No, no. Wait a second. Just wait a second. It's different.

If you have to take money, say, out of your pocket, okay? Let's just say this. I just happen to have a little money. God damn. Let's just say this. Let's just say, okay. Let's just say, Chris, we're getting ready to fine you for being late to the show, $1,000. But I got to. count it out. Oh, shit, man. Oh, man. Oh, there you go, Zach. I'm sorry. I'll hold that.

I promise next time, you know, I'm going to be on time. Yeah. Compared to electronic withdrawals and this is what they take from your check. So when you see your check stub, it's like, oh, they find me, you don't necessarily see the money coming out. So it's not quite as painful, even though it's gone. Yeah. It's not quite as painful. That's why we have seen through the years when you find, guys, sometimes it doesn't have the sting that it really should have because they don't see the money anyway. No, they don't. Like, it's just like basically an editing on accounting error.

Like, they don't see. If it was physically like coming out of their pocket or it was amount 100,000, 150,000, 200,000, that would get their attention. Yeah, would you get spit on for 60K? Fuck yeah, bro. What? But like, oh, my bad. Are you looking at me like that?

Like, not on my face, like, my hoodie, pants. If I know I'm getting money and it's like, you split the money, you know, it's not like that. There's other ways to make money, man, then degrading yourself, bro. How old are you, man? Yes. No, how old are you? 21. I mean, you're going to have to make up, you know, haven't you been seeing all these things going through the news, especially in entertainment and everything?

People compromising themselves for the sake of money or fame. Be careful what you're saying. say now because the first thing is let me spit on you for that and then next thing is able to shit if I sent you down there well let us well what else would you do for my no no no no no no no I just spit on you and you didn't say nothing you was good with you right you right you got me bro you got me shit come on what you got me damn that the extra couple stacks and a couple thousand I mean come on bro no no no quick question man you know you obviously more knowledgeable than me. I'm a diehard Texans fan. Die hard. Do you please tell me what went

wrong? They didn't rebuild the offensive line, right, this offseason. Now, when Joe Mixing comes back, things will be fixed a little bit better. But don't panic. C.J. Stroud is that guy. I'm panicking. He's an Ohio State guy. C.J. Strau's that guy, man. Great guy. Great character. man, his family, his dad being locked up and being away, like he is a grown man. He's maturity, been through some hard stuff. This is not going to alter his career. It's only going to make him better. But you've got to be able to protect him up front.

They got the right guy. Joe Mixing gets back, be a little more physical, but that division's up in the air. Watch out for the Colts because their defense is underrated. Watch out for the Colts. If we don't make the playoffs, I'm going to be hurt, bro. Just watch out for the division. Tank, that was out for the season, too, right? Yeah. Yeah, his career is getting hurt.

Yeah, 165. It's like small cars don't get in accidents and do well. What's the worst injury you had when you're in the league? I was very, very fortunate that in my 16 years, 13 of those years, I played at least 15 games. That's crazy. So I broke my collarbone, and I was out four weeks. That was the most significant thing. Wow, only four weeks.

Yeah. Great conditioning. Genetics. genetics, and you got to get lucky, but genetics. You got a good genetic. Yeah, you coach a team, correct? Yeah, I coach at Florida. How do I apply to be a walk-on?

I think you're going to do better in the getting spit-on business and other things. I can't be the one to hike the ball to the punter or the kicker? The long snapper? And then what are you going to do? I'm going to hand out the waters to the team. Hypo-law. But when you hike it, the play is still going.

How are you going to protect yourself? I'm just hope for the best. I think there's a lot of... I'll love to come to a game, though, and watch. Yeah, yeah, that would be... You should come to the game, maybe stream live or something like that. That'd be cool. Yeah.

You might be a better fit for, like, computer programming. Yeah, that football's not cut out for everyone. Then Helm is going to mess up your hair and everything. Like, you're not going to go to wear your hair like that. Okay, I like that. Yeah. One day, if you would be down, if you could put us through an NFL workout, I think that would be, like, just so people can see, like, how intense it really is.

Or NFL professional. practice, that'd be cool. Pad's helmet, whole nine. I don't think you want. Do you have insurance? Where your parents live? I use my mom's insurance because she has benefits. Okay.

But it just expired. But it's okay. I'm just worried about the death benefit. You feel like to die on me. Damn, man, you don't have faith in me, bro. No, no, you don't have faith to yourself. When's the last time you ran full speed? That's too long.

That's too long. Anytime you have to think about, that's too long. But would he be allowed to bring his inhaler? And hey, you can do anything you want. Bring your vape pen and do whatever makes you get down. It's a vape. It's a vape. Do a lot of people in the NFL smoke, smoke weed?

Of course. Seriously. But then, you know, with your lungs and shit, don't you... Where have you ever seen a study that says marijuana smoking hurts your ability to build to breathe? Just experience. No, I mean, where have you ever... Well, I already have trouble breathing. I have asthma, so.

Yeah, okay, so that's different. Yeah. I mean, if you have a condition... Yeah, yeah. I mean, yes, but I think for not only the medical reasons, the ability to be able to relax and get away from the fame and everything at this point in this stage I think with so many states legalizing it the league is looking at more of the benefits for the players compared to the old stereotypes

that society and other sports teams have did you smoke marijuana during your career earlier in my career I did and then my last 13 years I didn't didn't drink didn't because I couldn't handle it I couldn't handle it I didn't do well drugs of me didn't do well at that stage in my life. Yeah. What was your favorite part about being in the NFL? Like I've asked a lot of NBA players, they say like the money.

Other than the money, obviously you made a lot of money. You're very rich and successful. But like other than that, what did you enjoy? I mean, first it's the money, though. You got to talk about the money. Yeah. Because, I mean, the money's life changing. So which in turn, your brain changes.

Like the things you think about. change because what's actually capable now has changed and I think that it really allows you to dream or visualize all the things you saw as a young person that I could actually do this like because a lot of famous people I've talked to they visualize their life and their life is a very similar to the life they're living so but once you see it happen you get a picture of it a snap It's like, wow, I've seen this. Like, I know this can happen.

And then let's just give you enough energy to keep grinding at it, whatever the craft is to become better at it. And then which in turn is going to bring you more success, which brings you more confidence. Confidence breeds success. Like, if you want to get, you need success. And if you want to, as far as if you have a team of people, if you want them to have more confidence, you need to make them successful. A player, Nan and I talk about a lot, was a former teammate of yours. He was very confident, very successful. Mr. Randy Moss.

What's your best Randy Moss story? Oh, man, Randy. Randy, it's a, he's truly like an American sports legend. Like, he's, I've never really seen anyone that has that size. He's six four legitimate, six four and a half, and can move laterally, jumping ability and pure speed. Him and Dionne Sanders were the fastest two football players I ever seen. And seeing that and seeing how different it was in the NFL,

like it was just so fun to watch. Like football was already fun for me. I was already very successful at it. But to see him and to see what level he could take the wide receiver position, like two, like he's one of the guys that I openly admit was a better receiver than me. Like he was that kind of guy. and I have no problem in admitting that.

But that's my, I mean, his pure talent, I mean, he's funny to, oh, my God, he's country funny. Randy Moss, legend, legend, great actor. He's one of the only few that you would put ahead of yourself. Yeah, there's a handful of guys, yeah. Who are a couple others? Jerry Rice is definitely, I always say Jerry Rice. I would say, um, uh, Larry Rice. Fitzgerald.

Larry Fitzgerald. And then I think all the rest of us are very, very close together. But not Terrell Owens. Terrell Owens was very good receiver. I don't think it makes sense to me. Like his numbers and minor numbers are very, very compatible. Like I don't get anything in life but telling the truth. Like I'm not going to.

I like that. I'm not going to be like, oh, no, Terrell Owens was not. No, he was a great player. Yeah. Like people, he, people had to create a defense around him. Like, Terrell Owens. is not Chad Johnson. Okay.

Like they did play on the same team, but they are not the same species of beast. Like, Terrell was a special, special player that big, that fast. So Chad Johnson's not a guy that could ever, you could see could make in the Hall of Fame. No, there's a better chance that you guys get in than him. Oh, wow. Wow. I'm triggering him in like a week. He's not going to get in.

It's not my fault. It doesn't do with me. It's a numbers game. Yeah. Because when the people talk about them, that they kind of hold them in, like, very high esteem, do you think that's, like, perhaps too high? There's rooms in every building.

Yeah. But he's just not in the top room with the Hall of Fame. He's in the building. Yeah. But you're downstairs. Podcasting? Whatever. I don't care.

I don't know. I ain't got nothing to do with the football. Yeah. This is about what you did in your NFL career. It has nothing to do what you do on the mic or anything else. No. Zero. Zip zero.

Am I have to ask him that in a week? Yeah, I'll bring it up. I mean, it's not, it's, Chad knows there's not any debate. Now, Chad might try to create a circus type atmosphere to create something, but just look at the numbers. Look how many seasons he played. Look, how many balls he called,

look how many yards he had, look at how many thousand yards he had, looking how many touchdowns he had, look at how many seasons he had over 10 touchdowns, which was one, I had 10 touchdowns, six seasons. How many pro balls he went? Just look at it. Yeah.

There's a guy who plays in the same division as him. Nian was asking me why he's not getting on the field. Cedar Sanders for the Cleveland Browns. Well, for one, the draft situation put him in a bad spot. Like when you mess that up, because now they're like lane assignments. The draft is just lane assignment. The people drafted in one, round one, and round two, they're going to have the best lanes.

The people in lane three are going to have a better assignment. than people drafted in round four and five. So if we're running the 200 meters and it's on a curve, the people in the first round are getting lanes four and five. And the people in the other rounds are getting lanes one and two and seven and eight. And they are not going to have, they're not going to win the race. It's the same distance, but it's a tougher race.

And his race is going to be tougher. He can get there. He's going to get a chance this year to play because I do believe they're not going to be successful and get off to a bad start. They're going to pull flaco. they're going to put Dylan Gabriel in. Why?

Because I paid him more money than I paid you. And I drafted him higher because supposedly I had a higher draft rate on it. Now, we don't know that. I don't think he was on the Brown's draft board when they got to the third round because I don't think the Browns would have drafted Shador behind Dylan Gabriel if he was on their board. And I do believe when they got back to the fifth round, they put him back on the board. Yeah. And they said for draft capital, he's too good of a player.

we should take them. What did you think of his performance in the preseason? It was up and down. What really hurt him was that he couldn't follow up the great performance in Carolina the next week because he's heard. So then he sits out practice, then he misses the second preseason game, and then he comes back in the third preseason game and it didn't look good. Everybody wants to blame everyone.

Oh, it's the coach's fault. Oh, it's the third teamers fault. Man, you're a backup in the NFL. Those guys aren't any good. That's why they're backups with you. but typically the best of the backups look the best. Yeah. Yeah.

A lot of people were like, oh, he had the third-year-offensive line, but they also have the third-string defensive ends in. People are stupid. At the beginning of the day, people are stupid. They're idiotic. They see what they want to see, and they wanted him to play well. But he didn't.

So that's what you typically see in younger players. Their performances go up and down. Now, it's only the preseason, and because he went in the fifth round, You don't have a voice. He can't go to the coach office and be like, man, I really didn't think you guys gave me a chance. No, he can't do that.

So Dylan Gabriel's going to get in. I think between weeks four and six, they're going to give him a chance. They're going to give him a few games. And then Chador is going to get a chance before the end of the year. Like, it's not the best look in the world. And then the Browns are going to be right back in the draft next year with a very good group of college quarterbacks

coming out to see, okay, do we take one of these kids with these other two kids that we have that we drafted from last year? That's what the Browns are going to do because that's what the Browns do. What's up with the Chiefs? Do you think they're able to bounce back? Could this be another Super Bowl season for them?

Do you think they took a step back? Well, people are overreacting to a very good loss to the Chargers. Now, what happened to them in the Super Bowl, we hope they got fixed as far as their offensive line. But when you lose Rice six weeks, suspension for something that he deserved. Something happened about a year and a half ago.

It's finally got adjudicated and everything. He finally got suspended six games. That's going to hurt him because he's their best receiver. Then the second, third play of the game, you lose worthy. You have a whole game plan. Kelsey takes him out. Yeah. So he has a whole game plan and wrapped around him.

So you really can't judge them on this game because they had to adapt in the game with the short receiver list. So no, I don't think it's Kansas City. They have the best coach in the league and they have the best individual player. That's in Andy Reed and Patrick Mahom. So they're going to try to figure out. Now, when the receivers aren't doing well, Travis Kelsey can't dominate the game. Like he does not have that skill level that he used to have a couple of years ago

that he could take over the game, have $150, $1.502. His game is not quite right there. We kind of like ranked our top five quarterbacks going into the season. I had Mahomes number one. neon had Mahomes at five and C.J. Stroud at four. Okay, so who's two, three, four? Jane Daniels up there. Yeah, number one was, I think, we could have a number one.

Josh Allen. Josh Allen. Two at Lamar Jackson. Three, you had Jane Daniels, four, Stroud, five Mahomes. What would be like your instant reaction to that? Well, I'm not going to overreact to you kids, child's play. But Patrick Mahomes is number one because of his accomplishment and his head-to-head against all these guys.

He's number one. And then immediately you've got to go to the previous three MVPs. Lamar won two of those and Josh Allen. I believe Lamar is a better player than Josh Allen. His ability to throw the ball anywhere on the field and run, respect to the tech. Now, Josh Allen, being the third quarterback, we're in the age where this might be the best group of quarterbacks

that we've ever had top to bottom. So being number three, you know, it's not a bad thing. Now, after that, you're really going to start to have some real, like, real, real problems. To me, you know, I'm going with Jalen Hurts. All right. He's won at every level. And it's not going to be a numbers game. It's about the quarterback.

The number one thing is, do I get my team on the winning bus? Do they have a great roster in Philly? Yes. Do they have great personnel offensively? Yes. So if you were starting NFL franchise, you would have Jailen. hurts leading your team over Joe Burrow? No, no, I didn't say that.

I didn't say that. We're talking about, like, right now. I believe what he can do in his effect on the game. I do believe Joe Burrell is a top five. And Joe Burroughs is one of the most spectacular throwers ever, but it's about where do you work. But Jaylen Hertz is getting on the winning bus more. It's about where you work.

It's about, okay, Howie Roseman works in Philadelphia. Yeah. Where Jaylon works. So guess what, how he works? But he's going to give him better groceries and better talent to be able to work with. shop with than the Bengals. The Bengals spend less money than anyone on scouting and going out and searching for players. They've always been one of the lowest spenders and one of the worst

as far as overall facilities and taking care of players. So it's not the Joe Burrow, man. I love Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow reminds me of Troy Aitman. That's what Troy Aitman used to look like. Straight drop back and that ball coming out night. No, I love Joe Burrow, but I think that Jalen, people don't respect his game. He's been the two Super Bowl. Joe Burl's been to one. Jalen's been to two, and then his resume is a champion.

Joe in college, Jalen in college, what happened to him in Alabama, getting bench, going to Oklahoma. That resume, I mean, that's a strong, strong, at some point we've got to give the kid some credit. Yeah. Like the kid has a champion championship mentality,

and he should be, not based on the stats, in the top five quarterbacks that we have in this league. Is quarterback the only position you evaluate that way with getting on the winning bus? It has the biggest. The quarterback has the biggest role in wins and loss. Well, he's the only one that you can really talk to about that besides the head coach, because he's the only one that touches the ball every single offensive play.

So say we have 120 plays in the game, maybe 135 given special teams. Typically, you're going to have 60 plays offensively, 60 plays defensively, 20 play, 15 plays special teams wide. If I touch the ball every fucking time, yeah. Yeah, you're going to get more. credit and more blame. Yes. Yeah, you should. I'm a white out. I'm out way there. I might touch it seven times, five times.

No, I can't get all the credit or to blame. I mean, we'd like to. We talk about it like we are, but we'd not. And they make the most. We make the most noise. Yeah. We like the little yard dog. Gag, gack, gack, gack, gack, gack, we make the most noise. What's up with your dog? You were telling me a little bit about them.

Oh, yeah, I got a couple. I got a little, I got a dog out of Russia named Pablo, Pablo Escobar. We broke him out of there. Oh, shit. So, yeah, he's a little mini, palm he's probably he worked like 25,000 look no he he's he's bad dog I felt treated you right yeah and then um oh they're just dogs and then I have another one Lola that's my wife's dog we got him during the pandemic and she's a normal palmering in both of them white so yes love my dog what did you do with your

first NFL check in my pocket watching um no no you could um actually I tried to go through one of the sponsors of the team the bank was drawn on that sponsor so typically in NFL you get paid on Monday yeah so we practice got our paychecks I mean we're young 21 we heading down on Broad Street and Philly we I tried to go through the drive-through check was 14,000 not my signing bonus this is just my work my first weekly paycheck it was 14,000 back then it was worth a lot more too and um lady was like sir you can't cash just kind of check coming through the drive-through. I said, well, and you have to have an account.

No, I said, no, this bank, this name is on this check. I know I play for this team down the street. You guys got the money? They told me you come down here and get it. So then I go inside, meet the manager. He tells us, Mr. Carter, can you open up an account? I was like, yeah, I can open up an account. He's like, what do you want to do?

You want a deposit. I was like, no, I want all cash. Straight up. So I left just a straight cash, homie. Yes. I just leave a little bit just to have the account open and everything. I said, I need all the cash, for the most part. Leave a little bit the account.

Because I'll be back next week. We get paid next week. I'll be back next week. We'll put that one in there. Yeah. I went straight to Atlantic City. Man, we got one of the nicest rooms, Atlantic City, a big heart-shaped bed, all kind of mirrors, apparatus is up in that thing.

Like, Atlantic City. When Donald Trump was spending the money to revamp Atlantic City, we was trying to help them, too. So just a short car ride from Philly there. that's the NFL first check. Yeah. Interesting. That money got spent fast. Not that much changes in life.

You either go by a house, go buy a car, and then somewhere along the way some ladies are involved. Nothing changes. Nothing changes. We appreciate your time. Any closing thoughts? Anything you want to get off your chest? No, I'm looking forward to the NFL.

There's definitely some trends out there that I believe can help people. I know this is a betting. show, and if you're trying to bet, a couple things that you should watch. The running game has made a resurgence in the National Football League because the scouting services have seen that the defenses are very undersized now. They might have a couple big guys defensive tackle, but the linebackers are smaller so they can play more pass coverage. So now you can run on them.

So especially at the beginning of the season, watch for the unders. I know everybody likes betting over and everything. Watch for the unders in the game. And then also watch for if there's one more time in the game where more points can be scored, watch the first half. Because field position has changed with the new kickoff rule. Yeah. Like they're starting closer, a better possession. I think that, did you mention that?

They're starting at the 29-yard line historically. Oh, you mentioned the margin being closer. But this is one of the starting for the offense at the 29-yard line is probably the furthest offense have ever started NFL history. Now, they're not scoring more points, but it's allowing the offenses to be on a shorter field. So you get two first downs, you can kick a field go. Yeah.

You know, so that's something to watch. Kickers are better than ever. So watch teams try to get better returners in the return game to take advantage of the new rules and kicking. I think Jacksonville traded their running back and a returner to Philadelphia. Yeah. And people say, why are they trading?

They got Barclay. No, they traded for the return of the, ability. Yeah, so there's going to be a few things going on this year. I do believe there's going to be a few teams of sleepers. Watch the Colts. The Colts have been very, very good the last few years defensively. Now with Danny Dimes, with their new coach, they seem like they've matched up a lot like Baker Mayfield is done down there in Tampa, and that's going to be interesting. I believe right now Green Bay is probably the best team in the NFL. And a lot of people don't want to hear that. But Green Bay, the youngest team, Adam Michael Parson, that young receiving,

core starting to come along and i do believe that love is going to play a full season but green bay to me that's a hot take the eyeball test and michael parsons is only going to get better thanks to jerry jones you didn't like that trade for the cowboys it's one of the worst trades in the history of the nfl if you were going to trade them you should trade them before the draft where you could have gotten multiple there's a guy um seattle the jets remember the jet safety adams he got traded for three first round picks. Small Adams. Yeah.

Three first round picks. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Safety, less valuable position. Now, Jerry keeps it, because he's the carnival act, he's the circus guy. Hey, come look at the lady with three heads. Hey, don't look at our team over there.

Come over here. Hey, look over here. Distraction. That's an awful trade. And to do it in the NFC, like, you're going to make another team better, another franchise better that's going to be in your way of going to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Yeah.

Like, it's crazy. You do not let that kind of player go in his prime. And now the Packers, like, I'm with the Vikings, man. We play them twice a year. And I was not happy at all. I was not happy because Green Bay is legit. And if you've never been to Green Bay, you're talking about a home field advantage? Like, did you see them get off the ball?

The offensive line was slow getting off the ball. And then Michael Parsons was. I mean, he made Sewell look, Sue's one of the best tackle. And he's after missing all the training camp, when you get that crowd, he's going to be coming off that edge. Like, I couldn't, man,

if I was betting money, I'm betting money on Green Bay, Green Bay, Green Bay, Green Bay, especially for the first half of the season. Hear that. And then when it gets cold, and then when it gets cold, bet the under. Yeah, Green Bay isn't in that very top echelon. They're under Buffalo,

they're under Baltimore. Oh, yeah, you can still get them over at my bookie. Yeah, you can still get them. Absolutely. And the Vikings have a really good team. Yeah. Well, I love what Brian Flores does with the defense. And watch out for Hargrave.

Did you see him dominate the fourth quarter of defensive tackle? I'm blanking on the exact pronunciation of his name, but the Viking GM and the talent that he's brought in, Javan Hargrave, was a great signing. He does a great job. Yes. Yes, he really does. Him and the head coach, KOC, they do a great job there. But them of them, Indianapolis, Minnesota, people.

will say oh Chris is on the purple yeah I'm always on some purple drugs always yes and green bay packers those are teams I'll be putting a little if I had a couple shuckles or something yeah and you wanted to use code double that yes yeah go ahead yeah fire away yeah fire away appreciate you so much man no no you guys got to get me get me back I got to come back here we got to do something we got to stream all three of us we got to do that workout I'm I'm gonna really lock it I'm down okay get your insurance paid up okay tell your mom make sure her sign a waiver yeah make sure her black dress is ironed and dry clean because she might be going to her funeral.

God damn. You got a dark mind. Holy shit. You said an NFL workout, man. Do you think? I just did an NBA workout with Patrick Beverly and I felt, I felt great after.

I need to talk to Patrick Beverly because Patrick Beverly did not give you the fool Patrick Beverly. No, he was screaming at me. He was on my ass. He didn't give you the whole thing of him because, man, that dude, he could be playing in the NFL.

Patrick Beverly. Like, he has that type of mentality. There's only a few. NBA guys. It's not the body. Yeah. But he has that mentality that, hey, I'm better than you. Hey, I can stop you. He's one of my favorite players. You know, as you watch the NBA through the years

and everything. Because he's self-made. Yeah. He got it out the dirt. Fact. That's great. A rock with Patrick Beverly. Shout to him. Plus this, you know. Yeah. Shout out.

Oh, that's nice. Oh, thank you. What does it mean? So the Hamza is like the hand of peace. Okay. And then in between I got the star of David. Okay. Yeah, I saw that. Okay.

Yeah. Nice combination. Very nice. My boy Pat Bad was playing over there. Yeah, he was. He told me he was about to get signed to the Rockets. For the last two weeks, he was in Houston,

and then he just, it didn't work out, didn't have cab space. Crazy. Mm, they got a good squad. Now, that's a Houston team that's winning at all. I know this isn't an NBA thing, but like...

Hey, man, you need to stop winning at all. What about they're going to be much improved? What about they got a chance to compete for a chance? We're winning it all in. I'm going all in. I'm betting on the championship. It's guaranteed.

That is financial advice, by the way. That's not financial advice. That's what you might as well get? Where's my lighter? Just might burn the money. Like, I think the better bet is for them to make it to the NBA finals. That would be a nice wager in the offseason. Yeah.

The Rockets? I love their owner. Fetada, he does it the right way now. He does it the right way. Love their coach. His resurrection there, they got some good players. Oh, yeah. I love they made that trade, though.

For sure. I love that. God to KD. Man, KD. We were late. Legend, man. We get the same attention. Legend, legend, legend.

Yeah. I appreciate it, man. Of course. It's been awesome. Yeah, you're always welcome. Now it's time for us to give our mybooky.g. Picks of the week. Neon Thursday Night Football, we're starting with Chris Carter's Super Bowl pick.

We've got the commanders taking on the Packers at Green Bay, Green Bay minus three and a half. The total is at 48.5. What do you like here? I'm going to be honest. I would personally go Green Bay Money Line. I hate the spread. I hate going spread. Unless it's like a plus.

The minus, I always get fucked over. There's always this one bad, I remember. The kicker missed the field goal, and I had the spread, and it just fucked me so bad. So I'm never going to spreads again. I would just go straight up Green Bay Moneyland. Yeah, I'm going to go with a teaser here. I'm going to tease Washington,

and I'm going to tease the under. So I'm going to go Washington plus nine and a half. We're going to give Jayneals a lot of points, and then we're going to go under 48 and a half, 54 and a half. Okay. So less than 54, Daniel's from nine and a half. I think it's a safe bet.

Are you always going opposite, bro? Sometimes. Well, we can still both win. Yeah. Well, this next one is the one where we both agree. Okay. All right. The Super Bowl rematch, Chiefs and Eagles,

Eagles minus one and a half. The total is 46.5. I think we both see these offenses doing a lot better than last week. So we want to tease the Chiefs and the over. So you're going to get the Chiefs plus seven and a half. So that way they lose by a touchdown, you still cash out. We're going to take over 40 and a half. It's not a lot of points.

Both offense is slow. I think they heat up this week. I like that. Yeah. We go to the Texans game. Yeah, Monday night football. Bucks Texans. Who do you like here?

I'm going Bucks Money Line. All right. The Texans fuck me last week. I still love you guys so much. But I think the Bucks will take it, you know, Baker Mayfield. Texans defense is very good, but our O line just sucks dick right now. No offense to all of them. My bad.

Shit. Probably shouldn't have said that. It's okay. But, yeah, I'm going to Bucks Money Line. I know it's like minus 140? Yeah. Still going on them. Yeah, yeah.

I think they take it. Yeah, yeah. Texans are favorite here. I'm going to take them. I don't think Houston starts off 0-2. I think they get it back on track here. We'll see. To conclude, we got to go with the drip jack.

I'll go first. Let me know what you got on. Did I wear these slides last time? I think you did. This is my favorite slide. The most comfortable slides, not a sponsor. Mary slides are great. Target pants.

I got this hoodie for free. And then Target black shirt under my shit. Your turn, bro. Yours is a lot more extravagant. Yeah, I got. The Rough riders pooled Kai T. I got these Zs. I don't know what they are.

I want APs be on all. I just hop. They're not over. How much are those costs? Oh, like 12. Seriously. Yeah. I just would never, like,

why put 12K to step on fucking the ground? Well, we'll just make it back this week on MyBooky. That's true. Tap in. My bookie. Tap in. Appreciate y'all watching. God bless.

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