DOUBLE COVERAGE PODCAST - Brez Scales On Why He Won’t Hire Fat People, His Relationship With TJR & His Real Net Worth

Episode Date: September 5, 2026

Brez Scales joins Double Coverage to break down how he went from playing Fortnite in a small Wisconsin town to becoming a 22-year-old millionaire running multiple businesses and generating eight figures in annual revenue. Brez explains how he taught himself digital advertising, built his agency from a one-man operation into a 40-person team generating seven figures per month, launched Advertiser.com and Trenchies, and turned his personal brand into another major piece of his business empire. New DraftKings Customers turn five bucks into two hundred dollars in total bonuses, paid over 21 days. The Crown Is Yours! Sign up using https://dkng.co/dbl or through our promo code "DBL". #dkpartner He also opens up about spending six figures on a five-day trip to Marbella, dropping $150,000 on a watch, why young entrepreneurs shouldn’t fake their lifestyle online, dating in Miami, his friendship with TJ, and how expensive cars can actually create social currency. Later, Brez discusses training in boxing, potential fights with Brand Risk and Misfits, the opponents he’s been offered, his physical transformation, how he fixed his thinning hair, looksmaxxing, and his controversial belief that physical discipline translates to business — including why he says he doesn’t necessarily want to do business with fat people. Subscribe to Double Coverage for more conversations with entrepreneurs, athletes, creators and some of the biggest personalities on the internet. #BrezScales #TJR #DoubleCoverage Time Stamps ⏰ 0:00 Intro 0:07 Meet 22-year-old millionaire Brez Scales 0:49 How Brez built his advertising empire 1:27 Fortnite → crypto → dropshipping → millions 4:57 His 3 businesses & launching Trenches 5:48 Responding to the “course seller” criticism 8:26 Managing 40 employees at just 22 9:19 Seven-figure months & an eight-figure year 12:17 Spending $100K+ in 5 days & buying a $150K watch 13:21 Why faking being rich online is a mistake 18:54 TJ, supercars & turning flexing into money 22:07 Misfits, Brand Risk & Brez’s boxing plans 28:25 Hair loss, Turkey rumors & looksmaxxing 31:30 Why Brez doesn’t want to work with fat people Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bro, me personally, like, I don't necessarily want to do business with fat people. What's up, guys, Mr. Zach here. Welcome back to Season 2 of Double Coverage, presented by Draft Kings today. I am joined by none other than Brez Scales. How should I introduce you? I feel like what people know me for is like 22-year-old millionaire that lives a cool life and runs a business. All right. I'm here joined by Brez Scales.

This is a 22-year-old millionaire who runs and, you know, operates a cool business. Yeah. We're here in Miami. your stomping grounds, right? Yes, sir. From Wisconsin. Originally Wisconsin. So a small town kid.

Yep. Now in the mecca of really, the mecca right now is Miami. I mean, we know L.A. and New York, but you're in this industry, you kind of have to be in Miami, right? Yeah, it's like Miami, L.A. or New York. But like specifically for what I do, I think Miami is like the best home base. So what you do is you have a company where you help scale people's advertising. Exactly. So we run ads for businesses like e-commerce brands across social media platforms.

So like meta, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Google, et cetera. So you just turned 22 years old. Happy late birthday. Thank you. When did you start this company? So I started this company when I was like 18 years old, but I started trying to get into the whole like online business world when I was like 15 or 16. And when you're doing that, you're 15 or 16, are you just like stuck in Wisconsin?

Like, I got to get out of here. That sounds like it's around COVID. I was like a, I would say like very normal kid growing up, like, you know, had friends, played sports, went outside, stuff like that. Those are good things to do. I was really into Fortnite though. And that's what kind of sparked my like vision for like the online world, you know, like the potential to make money online. So I started playing Fortnite a lot and then that transitioned into Fortnite eventually kind of dying off. And how good were you?

Not the best. Like I was trying to make money from it, but I wasn't, I wasn't good enough to like be like a pro, considered a pro, you know? But then that kind of like sparked my my vision for. the online world and that led me into trying crypto, NFTs, trading, drop shipping. And then eventually I started my own clothing brand, which I learned how to run ads running that clothing brand, scaled that to like multiple six figures and then realized like, oh, shit, I can run ads for other people's businesses. And then started a business doing that. That took off. And here I am. So are you doing social media content the whole time documenting this or when does that

piece of the puzzle come in? Good question. After I signed my first couple of clients to run ads for because I had, you know, like a network of other brand owners from running my own brand. And then I started posting content about my ads agency and how I was getting these brands, these results, which, you know, started to kind of go a little bit viral. And then as my lifestyle started getting cooler with making more money, I started kind of posting more like lifestyle types of content. And then it just like evolved into what it is today. Now, how does your family go from discovering Fiji water to Wisconsin?

I think they'd be in some crazy spot, but Wisconsin? I don't know, my whole family, like grandparents and everything, always were born and raised in that little small town in Wisconsin. So then my family grew up there and then I grew up there. And I was kind of the first one to like make the jump and like go live out on my own in the real world, I guess. So kind of broke that pattern a little bit in a sense. Did you ever picture yourself like saying that small town? Did you always know I'm going to make it and get out of here? I always wanted no matter, even before I knew like I was going to make money with online business, I always knew that like even if I was.

going to go down that traditional path of like college nine to five that like I wanted to get a job where I could go live in a big city. I knew that was like always kind of my thing. Wow, it almost makes me sick thinking about being in one small town my entire life. Yeah, no, it's awful. It was a population of like 8,000 people. So very like drama, gossip, like everybody knows everything about everyone. Couldn't sound worse. Do you still keep up with like some of your friends from high school or? Yeah, like here and there, you know, like the occasional, Oh, how you doing, bro, text? Like, catch up, maybe call, whatever.

Like, they text me happy birthday, but not, like, that much. Does it get harder and harder to kind of relate to what they've got going on when you live your life? Yeah. And I feel like it's hard for me to relate to, like, a lot of people in general. Besides, like, you know, in this bubble of Miami, obviously, like, a lot of people are doing the same thing I am. So it's easy to relate to them. But outside of, like, you know, this little cesspool of people, it's, like, very hard to relate to anyone else. So especially like back in my hometown words, very, I'll say normie, for lack of better words, but it's hard to relate to people.

Yeah, it's almost kind of like you go back to like that hometown or whatever. And it's like, oh, like, what are you guys up to? And they're like, you know, same old. And I'm like, damn. It's pretty dystopian. In the past year, like so much has changed for me. And like, you guys are the only thing this changes you're moving from one year of college. I couldn't imagine that.

I'd much rather give everything I could to try to get to the next level and fail, like miserably fall flat on my face than. and like just be stuck. Yeah, I agree. Talk to you about trenches and what that is and how that helps. To give you a better understanding, I have three different businesses. One is obviously the agency and that's what started and birth kind of everything else that came into fruition over time because obviously, you know, with the growth I've had, with the social media presence that I've grown, like a lot of opportunity has come to start other

stuff. So one, I've had the agency over the past like four years. And then as I was building my personal brand, that kind of led to the opportunity of starting an education company, teaching people how to do the same thing. So I have that, which is called AIAdvertiser.com. And then that also led to, like, being able to kind of launch my own physical product, which is trenches. It's an energy and focus, hard candy, like, supplement. And every single candy, like, has different supplements inside of it as well as caffeine to kind of give you that energy and focus throughout the day.

So are you, like, eating those all day? Yeah, I try not to take, like, too many because my caffeine tolerance gets, like, hell of messed up then. But they're pretty solid product where I definitely have my fair share of them throughout the day. All right. That's valid, valid. You talked about the education, the course, right? Now, you've gotten pushback from people that are like, hey, you're just a course seller, right? Like, if you're doing so well, why would you have a course? Like, why do you need the money if you're so good at scaling, people's advertising? What would your response be to those people? Um, I think, obviously, like,

anybody being in the position I would be where you grow to the size of personal brand that I have specifically in a niche of business, like, it's going to come other people wanting to learn how to do what you have done, you know? So I think in the end of the day, as long as you create a really good product that gets people results, there shouldn't ever be any sort of backlash about like course seller, you know, because, or if you think of it, the biggest course from all is college. Like, everyone is buying college spending tens of thousands of dollars a year to get an education from someone. And it's, it's realistically like the same thing at a much cheaper price, and it's a skill set that I think is much more valuable than anything college teaches you. Like,

in college, you're learning from a professor who's never done what you're even learning about. You know, like I went to college for two months to learn about digital marketing. And I was learning from a professor who's never touched an ads manager platform in their life. So I went and taught myself how to do that. And then I think it makes much more sense for me to sell education on something I have years of expertise on versus, you know, college sending you down the path of learning from someone who's never done what they're teaching. So I think like to anyone saying that, bro, in the end of the day, my product is always like my main focus and making, you know, my product that I sell as good as I possibly. possibly can. And I mean, the results from my program speak for themselves. You know, I've got kids from age ranges 15 to 40 years old, making 15 to $100,000 plus a month from the skill set that I

taught them. Have you ever had someone buy your course and then surpass you? I think, no, that's, that's yet to happen. I mean, people have done out and definitely done amazing things. And I think at some point that's bound to happen. But I wouldn't say necessarily surpass me. Maybe in like different ways, but overall, I think not yet. Because obviously I'm in a position now where, you know, I'm running multiple different companies. I'm not as hands on with the, with the agency myself anymore, you know, like certain areas of the agency. I'm more just overseeing and kind of giving, you know, my employees and stuff the roadmap of what they need to do for my company, rather than me in internally, like in the trenches, doing it myself. So, you know, when it comes to

different things like media buying, making ad creatives, like writing copy for ads, there's definitely students that are better at some of those micro skill sets than I am, you know? If you're less hands-on in that area, what is kind of a day in your life? I would say it's very sporadic. Recently, like I've been traveling a lot running. I mean, obviously I have, you know, the opportunity to do that, being able to work from my laptop, but also like content is a big priority for me. So, you know, going out making cool vlogs and stuff, cool YouTube videos, whatever.

Majority of my day-to-day, bro, when I'm in Miami, which is majority of the time, wake up, go to the gym. My business partner is in office downtown. So I go downtown and I work there every day. And it really just depends on the day. A lot of times it's filming ads, meetings with my team. I would say like majority of my workload is meetings with my team. Because a lot of my day to day now is just like having all of the employees in their roles.

And I just got to like lead them, guide them and tell them what to do. You know, I'm not in a position where I'm manually like doing that at work anymore. So a lot of it is meetings with clients, team or potential partnerships for, like, relationships, business, whatever. How big is your team? Right now, 40 people. Yeah. So it's up there for sure.

So 40 employees. Yeah. And how much revenue do you guys bring in? A month? Yeah. Seven figures. Seven figures now. I don't want to say an exact number, but yeah, it's seven figures.

But annually you're bringing an eight plus. Yeah. Yeah. In the past year, eight figures. And how fast is that scaled from when you began to now? Is that? I mean, four years ago, when I was 18, it was five figures a month, you know, or even four figures a month. So four years ago when I was a one-man team, I was making, you know, $2,000 a month. Then it was $5,000, then it was $10,000. And then after like $20,000 is kind of when I start to bring that team together and started to get some of those people on my circle that were really necessary in order to take it to where it is today. But I think like anyone in the beginning looks at someone like me now and is like, oh, he has a huge team and I want to be like that one day or whatever. But they need to just focus on like that one skill set. And then all of that will, you know,

know, come naturally. Because, like, if I think about my 18-year-old self, it was like I was a one-man show, and my only goal was just getting really good at what I was trying to do. And then eventually that grew into, you know, what it is today. His more opportunity came, more doors opened. Now, you pulled up pretty humble. You are pretty humble. We got, like, a normal shirt, pants, you.

You have a crazy watch. The watch is ridiculous. But, like, your social media persona is, like, the crazy cars, the crazy outfits, the whole nine yards. So what is that something that, like, you always liked just to have nice things? And now that you have it, you're going to show it off. Are you trying to show people like what's possible, maybe inspire them? Like, what is behind all that? For sure.

I think, bro, my main goal with social media is like when I was a kid, when I was, I've been talking about, you know, my 15, 16, 17, 18 year old self. And like, what really kept me going despite all the failure I was going throughout that time was seeing the people that were doing it at that moment, you know, like watching the creators who are like myself now. So like my main goal with social media is to be that person to the people, who are in the position I was once in, if that makes sense. So, like, be that role model to those people who are at that starting point like I was. So, I mean, any of my, my content, of course, you know,

some of it is like seen as flexing, whatever. But in the end of the day, like, I really just try to put out the message to, you know, the youth, to the people out there, to people maybe even older than me, no matter who it is that watches my content to just put into their mind, like, it's achievable for them, too. Because I want them to understand, like, I'm just a normal kid from a small ton of Wisconsin, you know, and I made it happen and they can too. So that's my main thing, But yeah, bro, over time, you know, I feel like I've matured a lot in the last year and and been less flexi and maybe a little more humble. Less, I've got less cars now.

I have like more watches. But like I dress a little calmer, popping my shit a little bit less for lack of a lot. Why? When you exceed so fast and you start to make so much money so young, you're very stupid with it. You know, like you've probably noticed that as you've met different people and interviewed people. I'm pretty stupid. Yeah, I spend a lot. Yeah, you got chrome jeans.

Yeah. No, and I went crazy. I thought you were going to come crazy. I kept it humble today. No, I mean, I went through that period where, you know, I was low in hell of money. Bro, I even still do. I just got back from like a trip in Marbea where I spent over six figures in like five days. On a trip?

Yeah. How do you spend six figures on a five-day trip? We were partying a lot. And partying gets expensive in Europe. You know, you go out to the club, 10K. Another night, 10K. You get a crazy villa 30K. You go to dinner, 3K.

You know, it racks up quick. And I took a lot of my team out there too for like my birthday trip and like to just give them that experience. You know, and that's what I like to spend my money on is giving other people experiences that are important to me. I think that's a cool thing. But yeah, bro, I went through the whole phase of like blowing money on really dumb shit. Like a lot of cars, a lot of clothes, stuff like that. And then I feel like over time I've just matured a little bit more. Not that I'm, of course, better than that in any way.

I still spend so much dumb money. Like I went and spent 150K on a watch like last week. In the end of the day, a watch isn't that stupid. It holds its value. But yeah. I thought you were the LARP and final boss. I mean, I thought you were the guy we're all trying to be. It's not LARP if you're living it.

What advice would you give to someone who doesn't have it but wants to look like they have it? Don't try to look like you have it. Appreciate the time you're in now and understand that you've got to appreciate the journey and accept where you're at now. Because even me being in the position I'm in now, I look back at the times where I was broke. Couldn't afford those things. It's almost like a bittersweet type of, you know, like nostalgia in a way. I feel like half of the success is enjoying the journey.

You got to appreciate where you are now and just accept where you are now. And instead of trying to act like somebody or not, just focus on who you are in the moment and do everything you can to get yourself to the version you want to be one day. This is how I think. But they tell me, Zach, I need the four-letter username. I need to post the cars that aren't mine. Can I take pictures of your cars? Because if people think I have the status, they're more likely to do business with me.

They, like, knew the truth. Like, they might not spend money with me. Maybe you close the deal. You start doing business with them. and then they realize you're shit at what you sold them on. So instead of acting like someone you're not under promise, over deliver. So it's like get really good at the skill set. They may underestimate you, but if you manage to close them,

then they see your service delivery and how good you actually are at doing what you sold them on. Brother, relationship's going to last forever then. Vice versa, if you oversell them under deliver, they're going to start working with you a month in. They're going to be like, this dude. Like he sucks at what he told me he's good at. They're not going to want to work with you anymore. They're not really thinking like that.

We got to tell, I got to send that class. What about just for the girls? Like, they want to look good to the girls. They want like a collage of photos where they're in some cool cars, some watches. Like, how would you go about that? If you're pretending to be somebody you're not, you're probably going to attract the type of girls you don't want. If you're, if you're popping your s s sht, you know, maybe you got a Richard Mill on, big chain. You got a Cuban on like you got. Yeah, no, this one's real. I have some buddies with some fake Richard Mills and chains. Yeah. Girl that's attracted to that type of stuff. It's not your wife, bro. That's not your wife. Yeah, not my cup of tea. What is your dating life like out here? Do you have a girlfriend? Are you single? I do have a girlfriend, yeah. I had a girlfriend for the past six months, and it's been amazing.

And you met her in Miami? Yeah, yeah. A lot of people would say, how do you meet a girl in Miami? Everyone's bad. It's all OF girls. You'll never find one. I thought moving here, I would not have a girlfriend anytime soon. Like, I was like, living in Miami, like, I'm not going to meet my wife there.

But the good one comes when you least expected, I guess. And ever since it's been amazing, I think she's making. She's made me a better man for sure. Friend of a friend or you just met her out? I met her on social media. Okay. Which sounds bad, I know. Well, at least you know you're the same interest, right?

That's a good start to me. I don't think that sounds bad. Yeah, I mean, it's today's age, of course. Like, a lot of people probably have the same story. I met on social media. I think that's just modern day. I told you, I lived in Miami. I lived in Brickle, 2021.

You're how old? I'm 24. L.A., Miami. I'm going to Vegas tonight, New York. Like, I'm in all the worst places. You've seen it all. I've seen it all and I'm attracted to the worst ones. Yikes.

Yeah, it's not great. As long as you know what you're getting yourself into. What's been the biggest surprise for you since you moved to Miami have became the breast scales of today? I wasn't nearly as big as I am now when I moved here. You know, I only had like 100K followers on Instagram, which is still pretty big. I would say like the biggest surprise would be bro, like how, I don't want to say how famous I am. that just sounds like, oh, I'm better than people. But like, how much I get recognized in public.

It's like everywhere I go. And that was like, now I'm used to it. But when I first moved here, it was like very foreign to me. It was weird. I don't know it's like cool. And I'm, you know, used to it. But when I first moved here, it was like, wow, this is like a lot to take in. Because were you going out?

I mean, I'm assuming you were going out before you're 21. Yeah. So you were like super young going to all these crazy spots, right? And there's like, you're just thrown to this like environment that's just not normal for someone your age, especially coming from Wisconsin. My version of like going out when I lived in Wisconsin was like going to a basement house party for the two months that

I was in college, you know, where it's like basically like a frat party. I went to like a couple of those and I was like, all right, no more. Like this is stupid. And then you move to Miami. It's like you're going out to a club. People are spending tens of thousands of dollars on bottles. There's some famous rapper on stage singing.

There's strips. There's money being thrown. You're like, what the fuck is going? Yeah. So, yeah. Definitely is like culture shock. What has been your dumbest purchase? Maybe something to do with cars because at one point I had like five crazy or like six crazy cars at once. But like I love cars.

So to me it's not dumb. Most people would would see it as dumb and be like, what the hell? Like why does 20 year old at the time I was like 20, 21 when I have that many? They were like, why would a 20, 21 year old kid need this many cars? But to me it was like, this is lit as fuck. Like this is my childhood dream. All these cars, you know, are getting me. me crazy views on social media, so like, I don't regret buying it. But other than, I mean,

the purchase, I would say I regret maybe the most is like clothes. Like I used to spend so much money on clothes. Like how much? I would go to my reseller and drop like 10, 20K a week on clothes. 1020K a week on clothes? Yeah. It's like half a mill a year. No, way more. It's like 100k a month. Or yeah, 40 to 80k a month. Yeah. Holy shit. I can't do that. Did you get rid of the clothes or you just don't buy as many anymore? I sold a lot, have a lot still. Gave a lot of way. But yeah, I don't buy as much anymore. Like my outfit right now, I mean, these shoes are expensive.

They're Margella, so they're like, I don't know, $800. But these pants, like $100, like $100, this t-shirt, like $10. I wasn't expecting that. I was expecting, like, some crazy chrome. I still got, like, some stuff, you know? But more, I like, more, like, subtle clothes now, you know? If it's chrome, like, it doesn't necessarily scream chrome. You know, it's like the calm shit, like, more rare piece with, like, couple patches on it, maybe.

That if you look closely, you see. Talk to me about your boy, T.J.R. How you met him and your relationship today. He was a lot bigger than me. He still is a lot bigger than me. But before I was anyone, he was like a pretty known face is what I meant to say. We ended up like following each other because he was seeing my content. And then like the first time, what was the first time we linked up? I think we went to dinner at Gecko, which is like a famous spot. Yeah, right here. Very cool. And then, you know, we kind of just became boys over time, hung out a little here and there. started making some content together. And everyone kind of knew him is like the face of trading. Me is like the face of like e-com and like running ads. You know, so it was like when we came

together, it was almost like we were the two like you even said it final bosses. Yeah, yeah. You even said it earlier off camera, two final bosses. And when we came together, everybody just loved that. So we made like more content. And a lot of our content together was like very humorous. And so it just went mega viral, bro. And then like over time we just became like, you know, closer, started making more content together. Made some pretty crazy like lore stories. And so it's and people just loved it. He's got a crazy app for Connie's sake. Yeah.

He doesn't have it anymore actually. But, bro, that was like the craziest car ever. I've never seen an influencer have like a seven figure car. Were you like with him when you decided to get that? Did he like ask you like, should I pull the trigger on this? I think he texted me, bro, because we went on a generational run together when he, when he bought that. Because he, I think he texted me like, yo, I just bought this. I was like, oh, bet.

Come to car week with it. it to car week. If car week's like a huge car event in Monterey that just happened in August. But last year, he bought that, shipped it there. We stayed together in a house and just like went all over Car Week and we're going so viral. I brought my porch out there and then he bought that. Yeah, bro, that was like the craziest car ever. Like he's the first like kind of influencer to like, oh, that's stupid on a car. Do you think he made the money back that he spent on the car in the social currency that he received from having that car? Yeah. Probably or at least over time he will, you know, because like, bro, that went so viral for him. Like, so many people found him

because he bought that car, you know, in the videos he was making. So many people have, like, this different perception of him now. Yeah. And are probably more likely to buy his course or listen to him or watch his streams because he's the guy who had the Carnix Day. I don't know if you've seen his watch collection. His watches are insane. Like, he's got multiple seven figures, I think, in watches, like crazy pieces. Now, is he trying to be more chill too, or no, he hasn't? He got rid of his place in Miami and stuff. So he doesn't have like his car here or his apartment here anymore or anything. So he just, he chills in PR, trades, lives his life on the beach. And yeah, then I think he, his thing is kind of, he chills in PR because he pays no taxes there. And then when he wants to,

he'll pop out to like Miami or I've seen he's been in Europe a lot lately and he'll like go pop his shit on it. That's kind of like how I am. You know, like I, when I'm in Miami, like I'm, I'm chilling. I'm working. I'm like in the gym, whatever. And then when I want to like really pop out, I maybe will on a weekend or like this couple days ago. I was just in Marbea. I was in other places in Europe before that. Like, I'll go out somewhere and I'll paw my shit and I'll blow bag like on a nice trip or whatever.

And then I'll come back and I'll walk back in. Have you been boxing? Because we've seen the video that you've hidden the pads. Have you been in the gym training still? I've been boxing for like the past five months. Honestly, we'd like to fight, like compete at some point. I just need like the right, the right fight. The right like setup for a fight and I'll do it.

But I've been having like shoulders. I don't know what the f f*** is wrong with my shoulder, but my trainer guy that checked it out said it might be like slightly torn. So I have to go get that's not a good start to the boxing. No, I haven't even fought yet. I haven't even competed yet. Injure before you fight is a tough one. But are you sparring? I mean, lately I've been traveling so much, so haven't as much. But prior to all my traveling, I was sparring like three or four times a week. Weight is over. Football is here and so is Draft Kings. The Draft King Sports app is now live in all 50 states. That means from Texas to California to Florida, every fan is in on the excitement.

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and free-to-play sports contest availability. Varies by state. Terms at dkng.com slash offer. Limited time offer. You had talks with like misfits, brand risk, like those type of companies, like about having a fight? Yeah, brand risk has reached out to me multiple times. Miss fits has also reached out to me, but brand risk keeps throwing me like these crazy opponents where it's like, bro, they wanted me to fight scam likely. And I'll say a lot unclear, but like, bro, I don't want to smoke. He's like 8 and 0 or some I'm not trying to have my first fight against somebody who's like eight and oh with way more experience than me, you know? No, you would need to fight someone way bigger that's like in like the e-com or like in the- Yeah. And I'm not saying I want to fight this an easy lineup because I'm down

for like a hard fight. The only thing is like, well, why would you in your very first fight fight fight someone with a lot of experience? That's the thing. Like I have, if I'm stepping in the ring, I got a lot to lose. Nobody, I'm a boxing guy. So I grew up in the boxing gym, my father in a gym, manage fighters. I box. Nobody in the history of boxing ever in their first fight fights someone that's eight and no. That's the most ridiculous. So I'm like, bro, if you if you guys want me to fight, I'll fight. You just got to give me the right like opponent because bro I got a lot to lose. Like if I lose a fight, my comment section for the next six months, my life is going to be filled with pictures, me getting dropped, you know? And you don't need the money. Yeah, I don't.

Like, of course, I don't need the money. Like I do it. Which is rare, right? Like most of the guys in that promotion, like it's probably real useful for them. Like I'm going to just do that shit for love of the game. So who's an opponent? If you had to pick one opponent. I don't know, bro. I mean, Aiden wanted T.J.R. And that's like, like, Trayorne's height. Yeah, he's really tall.

See, that's, like, tough, too. He's, like, he's huge. He said he would do it, and I'll say I would do it too. But it would have to be for the, he said, for the right price. Okay. Yeah, that would be, that would be a good one, though. I'd watch that. Better than Scam likely, for sure.

Say that. Well, I already said it loud and clear, but I don't want to smoke. Any other offers or just him? Yeah. Bro, misfits text me. they were like, you could fight Chase the Moore. I'm like, whoa, what? He's 220 pounds on one seat.

I think he's like 250, bro. Which I thought, I think they thought I was a lot bigger than I am, but I was like, bro, another one that y'all are giving me that has multiple fights and I have zero. Again, I'll fight someone, brother. He's just got to give me the right, like, the right. Chase DeMore scam, like, they're doing you crazy with these options. I wanted you to fight clicks. Does click strength?

No, but he said he would fuck you up. Really? Off, off camera, yeah. We were at dinner in Dallas and he was like, man, like, if I could punch up like one person. He didn't say this. He was trying to start. He was like in like a street setting. If Bres scales came at me, I'd crack a sacks.

And I'm like, dude, why are you being so aggressive? He's like, I'll fuck him up. I would, if I was you, I personally wouldn't let Clicks talk to me like that because he's talking crazy. All right. When I see clicks, it's on site. Yeah, no, I would agree. So you work out every day. Has that always been a thing for you?

Have you always prioritized your physical health or has that been a recent thing? Bro, when I was like 15, 16, playing Fortnite every day, I was fat. And then I got into decent shape. In high school, I got into the gym. I got in decent shape. And then I started my business and I stopped going to the gym because I just sat in a dark room for like 16 hours a day working. And then I got kind of fat again.

And then when I moved to Miami, I was like, bro, everybody is way too fit here. And like, I spend too much time outside here to, like, not be in good shape. So then I started like going to the gym when I moved here like a year ago again. So you're lifting every day? Boxing every day. And then like lifting after usually. Like some more body weight type of stuff, pushups, pull up, stuff like that. Recently, I've been lifting a little more just because my shoulder and not boxing as much.

But yeah, usually my routine is like boxing that lift after. What advice would you give as far as lifestyle goes to these young kids coming up or watching you? Maybe I bought your course and want to scale people's advertising. I mean, I feel like for the most part, how you do one thing is how you do everything. So do everything like to the best of your ability and give it 100% always. But bro, like to anyone out there that's, you know, trying to achieve the lifestyle you see people living online, don't compare yourself to those people because you're at a different point in your journey. The only thing you can do in the current moment is focus on your skill set and getting actually really good at the skills that are going to take you to where you want to go. You know, so for me, like obviously that was ads, you know, four years ago. My only focus was getting really good at running ads for businesses. And then over time, as I got better at the skill set, more opportunity came, more doors opened. And I think that's what, you know, every person I to do is focus on that skill set and just getting really good at it. And over time, you know, opportunity will present itself and that result will come naturally. How did you fix the hair?

Have you seen my hair when I was like ball? Yes. Because it was it was bad. I'm looking like intensely to see if it's like a perm or a two paces, but it's not. No, it's real. You want to touch it? No, you just have like a perfect kind of hairline. You can touch it if you want to. Yeah, let me. How did you manage to do that? So my hair was going bad. Like, my dad is bald. My oldest brother's, his hair's pretty cooked. And mine was going, bro.

Like, I got bad hair jeans. At, like, 19, it started thinning. And it was thinning like here, right? Not, like, receding on the corners, because my corners are good. So, like, pretty solid. It was just thinning really bad. So I went to the dermatologist,

and they prescribed me fanasteride and monoxidil topical cereal. And I just started putting that in my hair every night before bed and kind of rubbing it into my scalp. Bro, six months a year goes by. And my shi's, My shit is luscious, no. So you didn't go to Turkey? No.

I didn't get a hair transplant. So if people like dove into it, you never took a flight to Istanbul. No. Well, I did, but not to get a hair transplant. That's suspicious. I had a layover in Istanbul and then I flew from there to Mekanos. That sounds suss. What happened in that layover?

I went to see a church because we were only there for a couple hours because we got off at the airport and then we went and got on a jet to Mekinos. And you can go see it in my vlog. if you don't believe anyone that doesn't believe me. Yeah, a lot of people were met, like you went to Turkey, for sure. No hair transplant. Because if I got a hair transplant, you would have seen, like, they shave all your hair down and then like put stems in your hair. No, no, there is significant downtime.

Now, technically you could have like pre-recorded a bunch of content, saved it, recovered, and then came back with the first-shu-sh, don't tell them that, bro. All right, we'll cut that. What do you think about the looks maxing trends, so like the hype boosters, the makeup, you just said the hair? I think all that stuff is just like coat. But like I'm all for like looks maxing and like becoming the best version of yourself. You know, go to the gym, eat healthy. Maybe take some like supplements.

But what about like double limb linked in surgery? No, come on. That's OD. Like, and even like the peptide stuff. Like I don't take peptides. I had a like if you look back, bro, I was pretty chopped. I feel like I had a pretty solid glow up. And a lot of people comment about that.

And I just went to the gym, eat healthy. Take like some simple like base supplements. Get good sleep. or a year goes by, and it'll be a lot better looking. Not that I'm the best looking guy. Like, I'm not, but compared to what I was, I feel like that looks significant. So you wouldn't recommend, like, the, you know, like, jaw implants or... No.

Work out and get sun. Work out, get sun, eat healthy, get sleep. There you go. But, yeah, no, I agree with you. I think the basis of looks maxing, like, the wanting to look like your best self and, like, prioritizing that is good, right? And it is important. Have you noticed a difference since you're, like, glitism?

blow up in like how you're perceived, like in business or social media? Yeah, for sure. I think social media, it's like, it's a respect thing because it's like, oh, he looks a lot better. He must have to work hard to get that. And that kind of goes with my whole brand of like preaching, you know, become the best version of yourself. I feel like you're generally taken more serious too when you're a good looking person.

Like, it's the whole shit that Claft preaches is like, for me personally, like, I don't necessarily want to do business with fat people. Like, if you think about it, a person that's fat, they don't care about themselves. So how are they going to like care about their business at the level you want them to? So if someone wanted to like interview to be an employee or company, but they were fat, are they getting like rejected like off rip? I mean, it's not to say 100% because like, are there any fat people working for you? No.

No. No. But no, if somebody's fat, it's not that I'm necessarily not going to do business with them. But I will say like I do have probably a lot less more respect for them. For anyone trying to make a difference, just you're, you're not. not going to get to work with brez until you actually fucking make that difference. Bro, even if you just go outside and get steps and eat in a calorie deficit, like you'll lose weight. It's not that hard.

No, I got a friend Angel who like refuses to do anything and eats like Hershey's pies from Burger King. You know Hershey's had pies? Oh. The other thing is too is when you eat some shit like that, you feel much better about yourself if you worked for it. Like I love sweets. I love ice cream, you know, but like I don't let myself eat ice cream unless like I at least least somewhat worked for it. I'm going to send him this. Angel. Get it together, bro. Get it together. Too much Hershey's pies from Burger King. I didn't even know that was not.

Even Lacey didn't know that was a thing. And he's an expert. I can't say I've heard of a Hershey's pie. When Lacey's never heard of your item, you're in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, you went down a dark path. Anything else you want to get off your chest here? About fat people specifically. I mean, that's obviously the theme of what we do here, but like just in general. Don't be fat, work hard, get richer. Don't be fat, work hard, get richer. You heard it from Bred Scales. There we go. Thanks for having me.

Thank you.