Doug Loves Movies - Brian Duffield, David Kittredge and Chad Opitz guest

Episode Date: October 22, 2026

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I've got three guests today that I think know a thing or two about horror movies. Brian Duffield, David Kittredge, and Chad Opitz. Hello, fellas. Hello. Hey there. Let's meet everybody. individually, alphabetically by first name.

He is the co-writer and director of Whalefall in theaters now. It's Brian Duffield. Hey, Brian. Hi, how you doing? I'm doing good. It was nice to meet you at the influencers screening of Whale Fall. Oh, yeah. Where I just have a question for you about entering the theater because, you know,

one of the entrances you have to walk through basically a simulation of the inside of a whale. Did you do it? I did. I don't think that was very accurate, but it was fun. Yeah, it was only accurate in that there wasn't a lot of room in there, and it was scary because it's just so dark and you just have to push your way through. And I saw people going in there with their cocktail in their hand. I was like, that's not going to work out for them.

Yeah, I did that for sure. Because you don't know how tight and crazy it's going to be. But kudos to them for having such a fun thing to go along with a fun movie because I love the movie. Oh, thanks, man. And, you know, I personally don't care for one person trapped in something films, but you nailed it. Or should I say, wailed it. Sure.

how did you I know it's based on a book but how did you come to direct this film and co-write it with the book's author yeah yeah

no Daniel the author I guess I followed him on on Twitter because one day I guess three or four years ago he tweeted out the publishing announcement for the book

and I'd never talk to him before but I DMed him And I was like, I really want to read this. It sounds right up my alley. And then we kind of struck up a friendship from there. And I guess like six months later or so, he sent me the PDF. And we were kind of off to the races from there. I just fell in love with it from the jump.

And I have to say that, you know, I love the tagline that you came up with, but that apparently was rejected by the powers that be. get swallowed, yes. Yeah, well, hold your breath is the worst thing you can do in a situation like that. Yeah, no, he truly needed to breathe. Fortunately, he had the proper apparatus. You probably died if you held your breath. So they didn't care about accuracy.

But, you know, I still think it's swallowed would have been a a more fun time. Yeah. Well, congratulations. It's, you know, like I said, it's in theaters now. It had a strong opening weekend for something that, you know, people were probably a little like, what is this, you know, but I think it really delivers. And I wish you ongoing success with it. Also joining us today, phoning it in from Boston. It's our comedy pal Chad Opitz. Hey, Chad. How's it going, Doug? It's going good. What are you up to in Boston?

Doing some shows over here at the comedy studio. Oh, I don't think I've heard of that one. My buddy Jeff is one of the, like, he helps manage it and stuff. Very cool. Since you're in Boston, let me ask you this. Have you ever seen the Boston Strangler? Holy Lord, the actual guy or the movie? Have you run into this character?

Damn. I'm glad I haven't run into him. No, I've not met him. The motion picture with Tony Curtis. I have not seen that. Oh, well, it seems like, you know, especially while you're in Boston, you should check it out, get some safety tips. Absolutely. I'm going to watch that tonight. Right on. Our third guest today is the director of a very popular documentary called Borman and the Devil. It's David Kidridge. Hey, David. Hey, Doug. Thank you for having me.

I wrote down Hey David in my script here Hi David rather I flashed on Griffin Don when he picks up that little Mickey doll and says hi David

I want to go back to the Boston Strangler because that is one fucked up movie That is a great movie It was it Richard Fleischer who did it It's like it has all these amazing Split screens And it's I have the Blu-ray in the other room It's a really cool movie if you haven't seen it.

All right. Well, maybe we could all get together and watch it when, you know, if Chad gets out of Boston safe later. Tell us about your, like, what made you decide? How did you get involved in making a documentary about Exorcist II, the Heretic? Well, I always kind of was fascinated by Exorcist to the Heretic because it's such a, it's such a bizarre movie because, like, a lot of people don't even know about it. but it was this big, big, big, budget movie from the 70s,

and it was a sequel, of course, to The Exorcist, which was at the time, the third highest grossing movie in history. And Warner Brothers hired a director named John Borman, who's amazing, one of the greats. He did deliverance, he did point blank, and after this he went on to do Excalibur and the Emerald Forests and tons of other movies, an amazing director. And they made a movie with the biggest budget at the time

in Warner Brothers history. and it was a catastrophe. It was just an absolute absolute catastrophe. And it was laughed off the screen. And, you know, the documentary is kind of, it's, it kind of uses that as a springboard to talk about like kind of, you know,

what it takes to make something ambitious and how to survive it if it all goes south, as this did. So yeah, it's, it was, I, I always thought that the story of Exorcist to the Heretic, maybe not the movie itself. but how it got made and and what happened to it. Like, you know, Borman was recutting the movie while it was in wide release.

If you can imagine, recutting the prints of the movie, like, you know, because it was the 70s and trying to rescue what box office you could get. It's, it was, it's just kind of, you know, I made it for filmmakers. And I think every filmmaker that has seen it has, you know, kind of loved it or been scarred by it or both. Yeah, I've only heard great things about it. And, you know, it's, to me, Exorcist 2, the Heretic is like,

it's the one that set in motion the ridiculous subtitles after the number. Oh, is, did it? No, no, no. I think, like, didn't, part two walking talk came before that, I think. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? I know there have to be some other thing.

But this was like, I mean, in the 70s, like, you didn't have sequels, like, as just a, like, a predetermined thing. Like, it wasn't like that. Like, they were just starting that stuff in the early 70s. And Johnfather too. Had the decency

to just end at the number and not have war work. And French connection as well. And then, but then Damien Omen 2 turned it on its head and just put something before Omen. And then yeah, yeah, the whole story of sequels

in and of itself in Hollywood is kind of a weird, like kind of, you know, snake eating its own tale story. Yeah. Me and my friends, like we made fun, the heretic was just such a funny thing

to say after, after anything. and then until, of course, Electric Bugaloo came along. Oh, yeah. We're going to get a sandwich to the heretic, that kind of thing. Yeah. But then people just really enjoy saying Electric Bugaloo a lot more.

So I'm glad you're reviving people's awareness of Exorcist 2. And it's available, your movie's available on demand now? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's on VOD. We had a theatrical run, and I think it's opened everywhere. at this point, which is really cool. Like, you do this tiny little documentary that costs, you know, less than a, probably a rounding error on Digger,

which is a movie that everyone should see, by the way. I'm firmly on the pro-Digger stance. And it's up for debate whether it's a horror movie or not, but it kind of is. But, yeah, it's, you know, you spend years making a movie like that, and you're just in front of your own edit and you forget people are going to see it. And then it comes out in, like, it gets this kind of reception.

It's, it's just kind of a, you know, I don't think I've really kind of fully processed, uh, the whole experience yet. You know, maybe I will, maybe next year I'll be like,

yeah, that was cool. Now I'm just kind of like, wow, it's like people know this movie and have seen it. It's kind of crazy. Well, I think it's also perfect for,

uh, you know, the month of October. Uh, so people should definitely check out. I can't wait to see it. I, I,

unfortunately, I bounce around so much that, uh, you know, I was never in the right place at the right time to see it on the big screen, but, you know, happy to check it out at home. Oh, and it actually premiered on Turner Classic movies, which is another mind melding, like, mind, you know, melting thing. Oh, yeah, that is why.

To hear Ben Mankowitz on Turner Classic movies say, my name, it's like, oh, dude, like, I'm, like, dream, I can't, I can't even, you know, all of these things that, like, I've always wished, you know, would happen and stuff like that. It's, um, it's kind of, kind of crazy. And it gives people on that channel, it gives you a little nice break from a black and white film. So you get a nice color film. Yeah. And I got and they ran Exorcist to the Heretic after it. So I have the dubious distinction of being a reason or the reason that Exorcist to the Heretic finally ran on Turner Classic movies. Whatever that makes Exorcist to the Heretic. Yeah. That's a, that's a great double feature. All right. Well, now before we play some games today, I would,

like each one of you to recommend one horror film. Chad is used to being asked this question during the October shows. Andy's also a horror fan, so let's start with him. Chad, what do you recommend today? Oh, I think I've recommended session nine multiple times, so I won't do that one. That is a Massachusetts set horror movie. I'm going to go with, I actually just saw a couple days ago. movie I'd never seen before called Screamplay, which was also filmed in Boston, but you can't tell that it's filmed in Boston because at a $50,000 budget, it's all filmed on like cardboard sets and stuff like that. So it's super low budget, really good, black and white. The aesthetic kind of reminds me a forbidden zone, if you've ever seen that movie. But I really enjoyed it, and it's very

funny, and it's got great acting. So check that one out. I guess I think it got like a trauma release like 15, 20 years ago. And how can people see it now? I think it just got a re-release on something. Because I watched it, the Alamo in L.A. Right. He had a new copy, like a new version of it. So it's out there somewhere now on, at least you can buy the Blu-ray or something, I think.

Or maybe it'll be on Shudder or something. Yeah, but it's really good. I really enjoyed it. And I never even heard of it before. Screenplay, yeah. As soon as you were like, like, oh, this is an obscure movie. you said the word scream i was like where are we going two three which which which screen movie are we talking about uh all right screenplay brian what would you like to recommend

i debated whether or not this was like a horror film but i think it is um but the film i think that's haunted me the most that i've seen this year is mother mary by david lowry oh yeah I think that qualifies. That's a good one. Yeah, I, um, uh, I love David's movies and I didn't, like all of David's movies, I didn't really know what to expect and I definitely didn't know that it was a kind of ghost possession movie. Um, I don't know if A24 knew how to market that and the, uh, pop star needs a new dress, uh, movie.

Um, but, um, it's, uh, it's really, I found it really effective, really haunting. and the actual scenes of the ghost or the spirit and the way that David shot them really got under my skin and they're really unique, I think, in terms of the design of that. And it's not like a jump scare movie. It's definitely just a eerie presence.

It's unsettling. Yeah, it's unsettling. And it's, you know, the two actresses are just Hathaway and Michaela Cole or just unreal. And it goes for it. And by the end of it, I think it's a pretty haunting and sad,

a little movie that I feel like probably would have done a little bit better if it had come out around spooky season or if they just leaned more into it being like a ghost possession seance kind of story. But I think it's a really cool movie that I feel like most people I talk to

to haven't seen yet. So that's my, my recommend for spooky season. I'm starting to realize that there's a lot of scary and disturbing movies with either mother or mommy in the title,

probably more so than daddy or father. Yeah. And all the psycho movies. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. David, what would you like to recommend? Well, I didn't actually know if this was going to be like in the theaters or not, but if it's in the theaters, Digger, of course, I think

you could make an argument. it's not really a horror movie, but people should see it anyway. It's horrifying. The Devils just got extended for a week. Yes. If you can in any way see that in the theater, see it. But I would say just for spooky season,

the movie that I always kind of recommend as just like a really great horror movie that not enough people have seen was a movie from 1979 called Tourist Trap with Chuck Connors. Have any of you seen this film? No, yeah. Okay, it's rated PG.

if you can believe that. But it's really, really scary. And Tanya Roberts is in it. And it's about this old creepy dude, Chuck Connors, who runs or takes care of this wax museum thing near a giant old mansion where weird stuff starts to happen and things move on their own.

And it's extremely creepy. It's like one of these cult movies. And I just find it weird that, like, you know, the horror community knows about this movie, but not a lot of other people do. And it's so good as like one of those gateway horror movies because it's PG and you can show it to like an 11 or 12 year old and scar them for life. And it's wonderful. Like it's such a good movie. So tourist trap. I love it. Yeah. I want to I want to check it out now. Do you know who directed it? Um, no. I can find out. Hold on. Wait, I mean,

you know, we have the technology. Hold on. Like I can find that out in about two seconds. Yeah, you can figure it off. David Schmuller. David. Oh, the great David Schmuller. The great David Schmuller, yes. He's still with us. He was born in 1947.

And he's done a bunch of other stuff. Oh, he did Puppet Master. Oh, all right. And a bunch of other stuff. So he's had a good career. But Tourist Trap is a creepy, creepy movie. And if you don't believe me, there's a trailer on YouTube that you can watch with all these creepy mannequins like flinging around and their mouths opening up.

And it's great. Oh, so you can, yeah, you can get a taste of it there and decide if you want to. I normally don't advocate for trailer watching because, you know, they just ruin everything. There's almost no way you can spoil this movie. It's so weird. It's like, you know, and I actually thought of like saying Exorcist 3 just because apparently I'm the patron saint of Exorcist 2 now. But, you know, it does have, Exorcist 3 does have the best jump scare in history, though. Like, of any movie ever.

Yeah. That's like I'll die on. I think that's reasonable. And the devils that you mentioned, you don't think, doesn't that qualify as a horror movie? Oh, that's a horror movie for sure. But it is the, as opposite, it is far from a PG-rated film. It is very intense. 17, yeah.

heavily edited at the time of its first release, right? Like they were scared to put it out the way. edited it in Britain and then they edited even more here. And then in 2004, I believe Ken Russell, who is the director, managed to put together through digabetas because apparently his cut was on a digabata, but they couldn't find the elements. But what happened was Christian Parks, who was formerly neon doing marketing, was given his own shingle at Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers' clockwork. And one of the first things he did, because he's amazing, was telling Warner Brothers

to unearth these elements. And so they did a proper amazing 4K restoration on this film. It is finally the way that Ken Russell wanted it to be. And it is a stunning experience to see on the big screen. I heard that they put like it was also a little judicious. It wasn't just throw everything back in. It was like some things that are still a little shorter than that initially were supposed to be, but not in a, you know, not in a way that, you know, the director himself would be upset about.

Well, I think what I read that was they followed Ken Russell's notes to a T. Wow. So this is literally, at least that's what they're saying. Yeah. This is literally the version that Ken Russell wanted out there. So, you know, take that for what it's worth. I don't work for Warner Brothers publicity, but, you know, I'll buy it. And Lord knows, I don't know what else you could put in or take out of this movie that would, you know, make it fundamentally better or worse.

Yeah. I think it's been through a lot of, you know. a alteration over over the years. But also, I'm, I got to admit, I'm, I'm a little scared of it. Oh, it's so good, though. Oh, God, you shouldn't be scared. And I'm not even religious. It's not because of all these nuns doing all these crazy things.

It's just more like, just something about what I've heard about it. Like, I, you know, I'm scared. It's political. It's a political film. And it's about mob mentality. It's about using religion to weaponize people. into doing horrible things that are against their own interests. And Lord knows we don't know anything about that living in the United States in

2026. No, not at all. It's not relevant. It's a phenomenal film. It's so good. All right. Well, Walt, I will take your double recommendation of the devils in the tourist trap. And this is a lot of options for people, things to check out.

But I would dare say also that a whale fall not only to me qualifies as horror, but is also something that you can, you know, traumatize young people with because it's not, you know what I mean? There's no, it's upsetting, but it's like, you know, not violent per se. Yeah, I wasn't going to recommend my own movie. No, I know. The trailer freaked me out.

I'm just saying like, yes, see screenplay, see Mother Mary, see Devils and Tourist Rap. But first see the Whale Fall and Borman and the Devil. let's like, you know, let's get their priority straight. I always feel bad when I bring somebody out to promote their movie and go, yeah, but recommend something else. Brian, we should have gotten together. You could have recommended my movie. I could have recommended your movie.

No one would have known different. Yeah. I loved your movie though. Oh, thank you. Oh, my God. I haven't seen Wellfell yet. I'm sorry. I haven't seen many movies recently.

But it is on my list. I do want to see it in the next week. Yeah. it was traumatizing thing about editing a movie that's currently running. You were right about but did you have to go back and do patches or something?

Not well, no, no, no, but just in just the idea of opening weekend you know it's not working and then you get sent back in to fix it. Oh yeah. That was stressful. Now it's like technically impossible or else I think studios would be

abusing that. Well didn't cats have the whole but that whole effects butthole thing that was like they did they did patches or something yeah I don't think that was like we're gonna I don't want to speak out of turn I don't think that was like we're gonna like make corrections I think it was like

they literally were getting new effect shots after the release of the movie yeah and putting it putting them in I heard from I've heard from people who worked on that movie that literally they were so out of time they were shipping out V1 shots which if anybody knows it or has worked with effects. Like you do not, you do not want to go to town with a version one. Like generally

speaking, there is a tweet like, I don't know a lot of, I haven't worked extensively with effects, but I don't know a lot of directors who have had movies go out with like shots that are literally V1. And to go out with that, that's like, ooh, that's a bad, bad scene in post-production land for them. Yeah, we might have like one or two version ones, but maybe they even might be like version two or three by the time I see for the first time. Right, right. Right. Totally. But yeah, typically it's,

uh, it's not what you do. Well, how much, how much digital did you use? Because I understand that well, fall used a lot of, like you built a lot of practical things.

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of digital, it's a really great marriage between, like we built real, not real, but like we built real whale sets. And,

and then, um, our lighting rigs were, well, basically almost all of our film gear is also inside the stomach, including our lights. We had to erase those in post.

And then we kept the illumination from the lights to make it look like bioluminescence. Oh, that's so cool. There's a lot of CG on top of the practical practical elements

on like wire removals and gear removals and camera removals. But yeah, we also built very realistic stomach. sets. So there's no shot that's like a purely digital stomach. And then even we have a big set piece that's,

I think everyone assumes is CG, but all of the, that's kind of a spoiler, but all the blood and the sound waves are all cloud tank work. So we basically have CG animals inside of a cloud tank. And yeah, we had a really great. team that was just like trying to do the best version of everything. Yeah.

So sometimes it's practical and sometimes it's digital and it's like the most cutting edge stuff and then the most like caveman shit too. I'll start. I don't know if I can swear. Yeah, you can. Okay, great. You could fucking swear. I was wondering about that too.

I was self-censoring. We get labeled as a for, you know, as an adult podcast no matter what happens in it because of just history of it. I don't have to censor anybody. Yeah, we have everything. Yeah. Yeah. But I,

ever since I saw Whalefall, I just keep in my head singing, changing the James Bond theme, Skyfall to Whalefall. We did that. Yeah, it's fun. All right, guys, we've got to play some games,

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Back to the show! We're back, the dinosaur story. Our first game today is called Count Me If You Can, which this month could be called Count Dracula if you can because we are doing a horror movie edition of this game. I will name a movie and then you have to tell me, you have to guess, how many credited cast members are in the film. Most of these have small casts, but exactly how small are they? you'll either have to use your memory from if and when

you'd seen any of these or just take a guess based on what you do know about it. For an example, though, how many credited performers are there in Whalefall? Do you know the number?

I know the speaking roles. Yeah. I believe, but then there's two or three extras that are probably like 11 credited? Yeah, so that's, you know, that's my point is it's more than you'd think

when it's a movie about one guy in a whale. Yeah. Yeah. And that's true of, you'll see as we continue to play this game. Brian will be up first. Oh, great. I'll name a movie.

Brian guesses how many performers are credited in the titles. and if he gets it right, he gets a point. If he gets it wrong, Chad gets a shot at it, and then David, and we just move along forward from there with a person with the most points after six rounds is our winner. All right, you ready, Brian? I guess. The first movie is Dead Palm from 1989

that starred Nicole Kiliman, Billy Zane, and the late great Sam Neal, but how many total performers are listed in the credits of that film? I'm going to say 10. That's a good guess because it is a number. If you just said something that wasn't a number, I would say, what are you doing? I saw this in the video.

This is a good movie. That's not the correct movie. I love Dead Calm. You know, it's another one of those movies where when Sam Neal died, I was like, oh, I got to watch Good Palm again. And I haven't gotten around to it yet because there's a lot of movies coming out all the times. It's hard. But Chad, how many people do you think are in Dead Calm?

I mean, I haven't seen this one in a while. I'm going to just three. Oh, you're just going for it. You're just saying those three people that I named and that's it. That's it. Okay. Wrong, David. Wrong?

Wow. Okay. So somebody has to be over the radio because it was Sam. It was Philip Nois directed it. That's what put him on the map. And I remember this movie so well. I'm going to, okay, how many people are on a radio? I'll say five.

Well, see, that's where this game gets tricky because it does feel like it should be five or three or ten. But the actual answer is 12. There's 12 credited performances, including Benji the Dog as Benji. Oh, man. I forgot there was a dog in it. No, it's, if we end up having to have a tiebreaker, it'll be closest to that going over. In the meantime, we're going to play that you have to hit the number exactly.

So we'll go back to Brian for this next one. It always starts with me. Well, if somebody gets one right, then the next person in line gets to go first. It's like Jeopardy. Kind of. but Brian

Mike Flanagan made a movie called Hush Yeah How many credited Performers Human or Animal In that one Oh or animal

Oh Because you got Gallagher And I'll say five That is the Exactly Correct number Boom

Wow Wow Is there a dog credited? No animals credited to that one. But yeah, John Gallagher Jr. I haven't seen this movie. Great.

And there's like a friend. And then there's like a couple like phone calls, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So it rounds it out to five people. He said, I thought you did do Jared. Gerard's game. Gerald's game. Yeah, which is also like a tricky one. but yeah

all right I'm glad I go I'm glad I'm glad I'm Hopefully Gerald's game won't come up later in this I'm gonna say my guess for that one but I was like well But now we move on to Chad Brian's on the board with one point And Chad What do you think of

This one I just saw it in a cemetery I went to Hollywood forever to see Whatever anniversary it is the millionth anniversary of the original Kerry from, oh, from 1976, so the,

I think easy math, the 50 year anniversary of Kerry, loved it as, as always. But how many people do you think get credit for being in Carrie, Chad? The care, oh, man,

that's a lot more. Yeah. There's a whole classroom full of people. Well, And it's the prom. But that was back in the day where just because you're running around getting killed, the prom doesn't mean you get in the end credits. Right.

Right. Really? Okay. I'm going to go. Oh, okay. 24. A 24? No.

David? I'll say 18. Okay. That's also incorrect, but at least it's a legal age. I'm not going to guess lower than 18 now. David? No, you got me. You got me.

I said 18. I'll do, all right, I'll do 15. There was kind of a bad clue on my part to say that, you know, 18 meant me and it was legal because the actual number is 21. Oh.

21 people got credit and carry. But lots of, you know, if you go to I and D.B, There's tons of people that says uncredited, uncredited, because they were just like at the prom or in the school or whatever. Okay. So we're back over to Chad again. And also I just want to quickly ask the three of you, have any of you seen this new Mike Flanagan, Kerry? I haven't.

Yeah, I'm about halfway through it. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's really good. Oh, good. That's good to hear. I just haven't had the time for it. And I'm also curious to know what a series version of Kerry, like, do they intend to do a second season or do they, you know, obviously none of us know yet, but how wrapped up is it?

From what I understand of people who have seen the last episode, there may be a second season. But I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know. but it seems like it's not impossible to imagine. Yeah, I mean, they already made it, Carrie, too. The rage. That's another one, the rage carry two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Chad, you're up first again.

The motion picture. This one, I think it's a horror movie, but some people may be big to differ. the Robert Eggers film The Lighthouse. With Robert Pattinson and Willem Defoe. How many credited people? Let's see. You know, it feels like a two-hander, but there's more...

There's got to be. Okay, I can think of one other one. Man. I'm going to say four. Good guess, which is what I think. say after every guess, but no. David? I'm going to say seven.

Also wrong, Brian. I'm going to say eight. You need it out two more. It's nine people are credited, including the mermaid and also a woman on the rocks. But sadly, Sully the Seagull appears uncredited.

And things don't. work out great for that seagull if I remember correctly solely needs a better agent is really what this is uh Chad you're up for round five a movie a classic horror movie that was remade recently but we're talking about the 2008 original uh how many credited performers in the strangers ooh the strangers um with of course another one that feels like like it's just a minuscule cast. Yeah, that's the idea. It feels like it is, but is it really?

Yeah. I'm going to say eight. Boom. It is eight. Wow. I was thinking of just like the two people and the three strangers and they're like stunt doubles or something. I don't think stunt doubles were listed, but there were just a couple other, you know, random. extra speaking roles for one reason or another.

I haven't seen it lately, so I don't remember exactly what was going on there. All right, David, this is your chance to get on the board. You get to go first on this one. And it is saw number one, the first saw movie from 2004. Elman. Terry Elwees.

Yes. I, yeah, what did I see? Did I see that at Sundance? I saw it, yeah, before it was a thing. And I was like, wow, that's a fucked-down movie. I don't know. God, I will say 15. Oh, that's an excellent guess.

Or is it? Brian. Apparently not that excellent. Brian for the win? Yeah, because I feel like they cut outside the room to people. I'll do 14. No, Chad.

16. We got there. That is the correct number. There you go. 16 credit people. Oh, I also forgot to mention that I didn't know this about the strangers. Glenn Howardton is in it. Oh, yeah. He's got a big part in it. Yeah, he plays Mike in.

in that movie and I, of course, didn't become really familiar with him until it's always sunny became a thing. But congratulations to Chad, you won that game. And you know what that means? It means you get to go first in our next and final game today that we'll play right after this. We're back, ADS.

Chad gets to go first in a game that I'm calling slash this. Rotten Tomatoes ranked the top 10 best-reviewed slasher films. They put out this list in November of 25. So put out of your minds anything that came out this year

or in December of last year. And what's going to happen is you're going to take turns guessing movies that you think landed on this list. Obviously you want to try to get like the number one movie and I've written down the top 10

and it's basically like family feud style you'll take turns guessing movies you think landed on this list and the higher up the list it is the more points you get after you've each taken turns and guess three titles I'll add up the numbers

and we will declare a winner make sense yeah can you define what a slasher movie is exactly though. Like, not to get too granular, but like... Right. That's part of the problem with this game.

It's very similar to Family Feud when they ask those poll questions. Oh, right, right. They give them... Sometimes they don't seem to understand exactly what... Got it. Got it. We're thinking for the Rotten Tomatoes crowd. I got it.

Okay. We're thinking not for the pop meter, but the, you know, popcorn meter, but the actual... The critics. percentage. And, you know, I didn't, you know, just out of respect, I didn't look up to review percentages on both of your films, Brian and David, but I assume they're both pretty high. I assume you're not angry about it.

We're pretty happy with the Rotten Tomatoes. I think Wellfall's getting really great reviews, too. Yeah, yeah. That's what I had, you know. I haven't read a single bad one. It's like, it's like I must see. Yeah, I bore me the devil. I feel like it's like 100%.

It's up there pretty high, right? It's 98, actually. Oh, I don't know. But it's like one of these movies, it's like made for cinephiles. So like, if you're a critic that doesn't like it, it's like, you know, what are you even doing? Yeah, kind of.

Like, it's like, it was one of those. It's like you can't really like, I mean, not to undersell the movie. I think it's great, but it's like, you know, yeah. You'd have to be kind of a, you know, whatever to. Yeah. They're great stuff to work with, but you still have to put it together. Yeah, yeah.

I'll take it. It's not a guaranteed slam dunk like Exorcist 2 was. Okay, so since Chad won that first game, he goes first, and then we flip the order around. So it's going to go Chad, then Brian, then David. But like I said, you're each going to get three guesses. And, of course, what you guess and what I tell you where it ends up. on the list could inform your future guesses to try to figure this out. So, Chad, what's your first guess of a movie that came out before November of 2025?

That is one of the best slasher films. Best reviewed, correct? Yes, best reviewed slasher film. What do you think that is? I'm going to say the original Halloween 1978. The original Halloween from 1978, thank you for making me not have to ask you which Halloween when you said it, is tied for number one. Whoa. Wow.

That was my first guest, too. Yeah. At 97% of Robb's tomato. So it's not as good as Borman and the devil, but it is close. Don't tell John Carpenter. He'll say something really mean about me. Oh, no. Yeah.

Who saw that? Nobody. Okay. He's fun, though. All right. Totally. I love him. He's great. He's got no fucks left.

Yeah. He's not giving out any. Okay. So that's since it's tied for number one, it's not worth 10 points. It's worth 9.5 points. And maybe someone else will name the other movie that's tied for number one. What do you think, Brian? I don't know if it's I don't think it's type for number one but I watched nightmare on Elm Street last night but I'm going to guess new nightmare because that got nominated for Best Picture, the Spirit Awards, which I always think is really fun.

That is crazy. Yeah, I'll go with New Nightmare, but I probably didn't make it. But I feel like that would be the one that critics really like. well i like that you'd you know uh had your bets by like saying you don't think it's on there before committing to that answer because you're right it is not on there it should have been it didn't make that's that's dumb it didn't make the top 10 but uh you know i i feel like most of the ones that did kind of deserve to be there but you'll see later when i reveal whichever ones we did not get but david what's your first guess for like

I don't. My first guess is like, well, my first guess actually was Halloween 78 because that is the ultimate slasher movie. But I was like, I'm really trying to figure out if this movie is technically a slasher movie. And I'm kind of,

I'm going to, I'm going to guess it anyway. I'm just going to say psycho. Well, that's the thing. It's like, what is the slasher movie? That's the thing.

It's like, because he slashes and he has the big knife. So it's like, I mean, I have a backup, but it's like, I don't, I mean,

if you're talking about being tied with Halloween, there's only one other movie besides Psycho that I can think of that might come close and I'm not going to say any other movie I'm not going to say it. I'm going to say Psycho I'm going to hold you to it all right tied for number one on the list there we no good okay

because the other two that I have written down here because I just took like I wrote down four titles the first one was Halloween the second one was Psycho and then I have two others but I was like there's no way that either of those two were tied with Halloween Halloween. Halloween is just you can't like if you're going to talk about

a slasher movie because I don't think Psycho is a slasher movie. It's a great film. It's one of the best films ever made. But like I would, I would debate that that's a slasher movie. Yeah, I would too. But for some reason, that's where it landed on this. So we have to. Hey, I'll take the points.

We have to roll with it. Yeah, I'm taking it. Okay, so let's see here. Where are we at? Okay, so we have a tie between Chad and it at 9.5 points each, but there's still eight more movies on the list. So we go back to Chad for Chad's second guess. Let's see.

Okay, I'm going to have to get specific again with the year, and I'm going to say Black Christmas 1974. Black Christmas, 1974, I don't know. That was on my list, too. That was like number four. I don't, you know, I don't know offhand how critics reacted to it, but it is not in the top 10. Wow. That's a crime.

That's ridiculous. No, that's a very scary movie. Has everyone here seen that, by the way, everyone on this thing seen Black Christmas because my God, that movie is, I just, why did Bob Clark not just do nothing but horror movies? The rest of his, I mean, I like a Christmas story. And I think that some, you know, some people somewhere like Porky's, I don't, I never really got it. but like, you know, baby geniuses. Like, that's what he left us with.

And he can direct Black Christmas. I mean, for, for fuck's sake, come on. Like, give us. Have he a death dream? No, I've never had, no. I hear it's terrible, though. It's great. Is it really good?

Good. Is that the same as children shouldn't play with dead things or is that a different one? That's a different one. Yeah. He's also called dead. He's got a, yeah, Bob Clark had a wild filmography. It's really, it's like he didn't want to do anything twice, so we had to do loose cannons.

with Dan Aykroyd, God's sake. My God. How do you screw up a buddy cop movie with Gene Hackman and Dan Aykroyd? Somehow he found away. No, there's a few of those directors that were just like, they just did whatever genre, like they almost didn't seem to want to repeat themselves. And, you know, it's with the very mixed results.

All right, Brian, what's your second guess? I don't know if I'd call it a slap. Sure, but I feel like I want to go to Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I mean, that's not a bad guess. And that's the part of the strangeness of this game is that, you know, you can name three classics and still, you know, this is only the top 10 of all the slasher movies ever. So Texas Chainsaw Masker did not make it.

Wow. They must not account it as a slasher. Yeah, that's probably... That must have good reviews. reason. David, what's your next guess? Oh, Scream. One. First one in the 90s. Absolutely. Should be on the list and it isn't. Oh, no. Okay. All right. I'm calling shenanigans on this whole thing right now.

That is ridiculous. Okay, you have, okay, I'm just saying you have a list of the highest rated slasher movies ever. And Black Christmas and Scream are both not on it. Like, that's crazy. Well, let me just say this. I think there's a recency bias because more and more critics every year there's more critics on Rotten Tomatoes.

You're right. You have a much larger aggregate so that's going to drag it down just because there's too many dickheads that just want to be negative you know, reviewing movies online or... How many are on this list?

10? 10 movies. We've got two? I dare to say you'll say most of these are good and deserve their spot. but there's a few that are like, okay, what's going on here? Chad, what's your third and final guess?

Okay, well, I'm kind of going to piggyback off Brian. I'm going to say Nightmare and Elm Street in 1984. The original Elm Street is, in fact, tied for number four. Or no, tied for number five on the list. Okay. At least it's on there. Yeah. At least it's on there.

Chad gets a few more points. And now, Brian, you're essentially just, you're, you know, too far behind to catch up and win. But you could be a spoiler for, you know, you could still want to David's final guess. Or you could try to go three for three and say something that's not on the list. I'll do Now of your recency bias comments in my head I'll do David Gordon Green's Halloween Oh boy

Oh interesting Did that get good reviews? I think it did Well Congratulations Brian Oh for three Maybe oh for three I just looked

I got 79% Which is pretty good That's not bad Not bad at all The lowest on this list of 10 is a movie at 86% is the lowest of the top 10

which you know I'm just happy to be seeing that there are you know quite a few critically acclaimed horror movies but David here's your chance if you can name the number three movie or the number four movie or the number those would

give you the win if you name the number five movie that's tied with a nightmare on home street that could tie you up gosh it's like okay I have two movies on here, and I'm debating if they're slasher's. I think they are, and I don't know which was better reviewed. I am going to say basic instinct. Oh, interesting.

A lady slasher. Because that got a lot of really good reviews. I remember it did. Yeah, it was really, you know, everyone was so shocked by it. And I can tell you my B-Chap choice, like, after I find out if, like, a C-V- been on the list. I don't know. I would love to hear your other answer because that one that you just said, Base Againstee, is not on the list. Oh, okay. Well, my backup is, is that, can I say this now? Like, my backup was Brian De Palma's Dress to Kill. Okay, not on the list as well. Oh, well,

I blew out anyway. I will tell you, right? I will say this, though, about what's it? Dressed to Kill is in the top 20 on the, it's, because they ranked, you know, they ranked 100 movies. and I just did the top 10 but Dressa Kill was up there so it's not a terrible guess I mean none of these have been terrible guesses like Dressa Kill was nominated for three Razzies including the Palmer for course

Yeah you know what the Shining was nominated for Razzies Those guys can bite me Yeah it's true there's like You know horror Horror movie acting is a real It's real tricky business Because people really love to walk away shitting on the performances

For some reason and I know I have mine that I like well that's a great movie but that person could have been better but Chad is the winner of this game and so as because he's the winner he gets to name somebody for me to call a shithead when I sign off at the end of the show

who would you like me to call a shithead Chad? Oh man should I get making personal? Nah just say Elon Musk No, make it professional. Yeah, I can say Elon Musk. Okay.

You know, I don't want to be like my buddy, Jim. Yeah, some people do that, but, you know, you don't want to get your friend's name on the podcast. You want to shit on Elon Musk, and I can't say that I want to fight that urge. What would you like to promote, Chad? Well, I'm over here in Boston doing some shows right now, and I'm going to be in a short film called Verifiable. It's coming out sort of soon.

It'll be semi-horror-related, so that's going to be worth a watch. Cool. Is that it? That's it, dude. Chadopets.com? Yes, sir. And Instagram all that business, chat opens comedy. Right on. All right.

Now, brace yourselves, gentlemen, because now that I'm looking over it again, this list isn't going to make you happy. you're going to disagree with whether some of these are top 10 slasher movies, but here we go. Number 10 from Tim Burton, Sweeney Todd, the demon barber of Fleet Street. Shenanigans. Call them shenanigans on all of this. That's absurd. 86% on Rotten Tomatoes for Sweeney Todd. Oh, the only musical on the list, though, so you can rest easy there. Now, I didn't even know that this was well reviewed, but number nine on the list is Terrifier 2. What?

Terrifier 2 got 88% from all the nerdy online horror critics, I guess. Number 8, now see, this is where the recency bias comes in. This is where our friends at Netflix put their thumb on the scale, because number 8 is Fear Street Part 2, 1978. from 2021 that trilogy that they did then number seven

is also Fair Street but part three that was called 1966 number the thing that was tied for fifth with the nightmare

in Elm Street is the movie from 2022 called Pearl Oh yeah yeah a Thai West movie and then

that as a slasher either though I wouldn't Yeah I wouldn't consider that a slasher Well, she kills some people, doesn't she? Well, I mean, that was after, yeah, I guess Pearl was more of a slasher than X or Maxine, right? X was more of a slasher, I'd say.

Well, then let me go ahead and say this. Number four on the list is X with a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes. So, Thai West, congratulations. And then, of course, we already know about Psycho and Halloween being tied for first. So then the next movie, the third movie on the top 10 list is called Peeping Tom. Oh, Michael Powell's movie. Yeah, from 1960. That's a good movie.

Yeah, I got to check that one out, I think, because that's the only one on this list I haven't seen. Oh, it's real good. Oh, wait, I take it back. I haven't seen any terrifier movies because I'm terrified of them. Not so much, like the guy, the name. guy is the character is scary and scary looking but I'm just more concerned with just how non-stop the violence is in terrify our movies it seems like I would get sick of that after after a little bit but congratulations again to Chad Opitz for winning today and

Brian Duffield your movie Whalefall is in theaters now yes so everybody buddy, please go see it. And then when you get home or vice versa, either order, David Kittred's movie is called Borman and the Devil and it is available on VOD.

Yep. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Great job, everybody. Here's my plugs. I'm going to be at the Comedy Fort in Fort Collins, Colorado, October 30th, and on Halloween, the 31st.

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