Doug Loves Movies - Bryan Fuller, Nick Kocher and Brian McElhaney guest

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

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Because I'm going to fly to Key West tomorrow So if you're in or nearby Key West Florida I'll be doing Douglas movies as part of the Q West comedy Escape this Saturday. I think it's sold out already, so let's get to today's guess. They are Brian Fuller, Nick Poccher, and Brian McElhaney.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Let's meet them all individually, alphabetically, by first name. This, of course, is a squeaker, but since he uses an I and not a Y, First up is the co-writer of Over Your Dead Body in Theater Soon

and co-writer director of a pizza movie on Hulu and Disney Plus Now. It's Brian McElhaney. Hello, Brian. Hello, Doug. How you doing? I am so good because your cohort colleague partner taught me how to say your name. Yeah, most people never say it correctly with such confidence on the first try. you came in guns blazing and nailed it.

No, I'm very excited about it, you know, because in my head I kept thinking like, you know, like McLemore. I kept saying, I kept saying to myself, don't say McLean. Prime McElmore. But thank you for joining us. And since last week, you know, Nick was on last week, I hadn't seen pizza movie, but now I have. Oh, boy. say I've never regretted a booking as much as this one. No.

No. It is very funny. Somebody twists and surprises that I want to recommend two things, that they go into this movie cold and that if you are watching this movie, since it will be at home on the TV or a device, eat, have cold pizza. Yes. Why do you watch it? Pizza and maybe a substance of your choice.

will help elevate this film. Yes. I think cold pizza is good because the characters are trying so hard to achieve pizza and I feel like as a viewer you shouldn't get

you shouldn't get what they're trying to strike. Totally. Yeah, exactly. Cold shitty pizza. The way that they're going to eat it at the end of the movie. Exactly. We also get the impression they're not getting the pizza in a timely manner. Not at all. And also, I don't, you know, the robot,

The pizza delivery robot, I don't know. It doesn't feel like it has a heat component on the inside where the pizza is. I'm not sure how technology advanced McAtrane is. That's left up to interpretation, honestly. We don't like to spoon feed the viewers everything. We like the discourse around how technically a little Snacketron is. Yeah. You know, some questions we just left unanswered as we wrote this movie, and that had to be one of them.

You know, it's like, what do the frogs mean at the end of Magnolia? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. What is the final scene of 2001, a space audacity about really? Yes, it's all sort of in the same wheelhouse, those questions. No, that's clearly what pizza movie is all about.

And I do wonder what people are thinking hearing the word snackatron out of context. I mean, if I had a snackatron and an orgasmatron, I'd never leave the house. Yeah, that's all you need. All right. Thank you for being here. We'll discuss your other film when we get to your partner, colleague, cohort. But first, hashtag, but first. Brian Fuller is back. Hello, Brian. Hello. Your delightful movie, Dust Bunny, that shares my initials DB, is coming to HBO on April. I hope I get this right, 17. That's what I've been told. Yay!

I wasn't sure, but I knew that you would have an idea, and that's very exciting that people, you know, could see this movie at home. Will it be like, you know, Letterbox style on the screen on HBO? You know, I'm not sure. I know that I read in the same article that I read that I found out it was going to be on HBO that they were also doing

a bunch of Sigourney Weaver Alien movies this month on HBO. So I just hope that I get to see the title Dust Bunny in a row with Alien and Aliens because that would make me super happy. Yeah, they should have a Sigourney Weaver section. And it'd be aliens, aliens, aliens, aliens,

you know, all the different... Was she in four of them, you think? Four. Yes. Alien, aliens. Alien, uh, Cubed and Alien Resurrection. All right. You don't get any points for that, but great job. Thank you.

And finally, not finally. That's a weird way to purport when you're just talking about three people. Our returning champion is here. Nick Coacher. What's up, dude? What's up? You can't see me, but I'm shaking my hands above my head like a baseball player in the old timey way. Oh, okay.

Or Rocky and Hail Mary. Yeah. Oh, sure. Absolutely. Or sign language for clapping. No, not like that. Over Your Dead Body is in theaters on April 24th. That's correct.

Now back to Pizza Movie. First of all, who knows? Thank you. I'm glad we've covered that in depth. It's another over your dead body. I mean, I guess I say this about most movies these days, but every once in a while I see a movie where like a synopsis wouldn't kill you to hear it or to see the trailer. But a lot of stuff like over your dead body I got to see, you know, almost entirely cold.

I already complained last week about how the opening credits gives away there's more people in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the trailer did too. So anyway, I just want to say thank you for pizza movie because I, they sent me a, you know, a link to watch the movie. I have Hulu, so I just watched it on there. But they sent me a pizza.

Oh, nice. You got one of the pizzas. You got one of those cold, chucky cheese quality, thin, terrible pizzas they sent out. I said that's your reaction to it because, you know, that's what gave me the idea to eat shitty pizza while watching the movie. Because you did. Because I did it.

Did it also arrive at 11.30 a.m.? It got there. It did not get there at the time I was planning to watch the movie. That is true. Yeah, yeah. So, but it was, do you think they intentionally, like, they thought it was funny to send terrible pizza? No. I don't. I, we were all excited about sending pizzas.

I don't know whose idea it was to send that pizza or where that pizza was even from. I wish they had spent three. extra dollars per person and gotten them like a slightly better pizza because I was worried when I saw the because we were also given these marketing pizzas and I saw the box and it has a pizza movie cover on it and we were like oh amazing this is so cool and then I opened it up and I was like oh come on this is going to upset people yeah I feel like they're being pranks it's like around April 1st and you're getting said this weird ass pizza but I mean you know it's still pizza, so I did. It works. It works in the end. I didn't like the crust, but my girlfriend did, so we worked that out. Congratulations. And we had a dog that we didn't give any of it to because we didn't take care of this dog. So, but thank you for just, just making a movie called pizza movie so that that happened, that I got, that a movie gave me a pizza to eat or, you know, Or set aside and see what happens.

Was the alternative marketing campaign, the drugs? Either pizza or hardcore hallucin drugs. You either got pizza or LSD. And, you know, some people, the people with LSD did not tweet about the movie, though. We don't know where they are. Yeah. Yeah. And also, you know, not to spoil the movie, but, you know, LSD is really,

really quite an individual experience but in the film it's more of a group you know it's a drug where people are all reacting to it the same way at the same time binds you together if you take it at the same time apparently yes

LSD would be kind of a walk in the park compared to the drug in our movie it's a much more intense trip yeah LST doesn't usually come with like instructions of different you know what all the levels are going to not that I've seen It doesn't typically come with a classic three-act structure alongside it, no.

Well, thank you to all three of you for joining me today. And before we play some games, I would like each one of you to recommend a movie that strikes your fancy, starting with Brian with an eye. You know, I was thinking about this just like because we just have pizza movie coming out. And I was like, oh, what's a good movie to recommend alongside that? And I've been thinking a lot about the Cohen Brothers movie, The Hudsucker Proxy, recently. I think it's like often a not as talked about Cohen Brothers movie. And I don't think it's one of their best necessarily.

But it's so goofy and wild. And it's shot, it's just amazing to watch a movie that feels like a Bugs Bunny cartoon in so many places. But done by these Academy Award winning filmmakers and Roger Deacons like at the top of his game, but shooting something so like silly. and wild and we sort of pulled a little bit from it for art film. And I think it's just a great movie to go watch for like, if you want to have a good, silly time, but in a really heightened, elevated, attour kind of way. So I'm going to recommend Hudsucker proxy.

I mean, just the nerve to have the word proxy in a movie title. That was like, the studio must have just been, well, these guys, you know, they're hitmakers, so here we go. So I think I didn't watch it for a long time when I, I was a teenager because I was like, what does this, what do these words mean together? I don't even understand what I'm looking at here. But it's a good time. And Jennifer Jason Lee is so stylized in her.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's so funny in that movie. What a voice she's doing in that. It's great. Yeah, I remember dope's like, you know, bagging on her performance because they just didn't get it. Like she, she like really nails that style. And it's like, you know, it's weird to the, you know, to somebody just wandered in of the hud sucker proxy yeah yeah expecting you know raising arizona yeah they just came off of like

you know miller was crossing and barton fink and then they went to fargo afterwards so it's like such a weird movie to put in the middle of all that um but uh but yeah it's really fun it sparks a discussion i mean they're there those those guys uh cohen brothers you know if all four of us wrote of, you know, our top five Coen brother movies down, you know, wrote it down and then shared it, you know, wildly different positioning and choices.

Yes. Are we getting to do that? No, that does sound fun though, right? Yes. There's a so-called All Fantasy Everything where that'd be a good, that'd be a good thing for them to rank, you know, to go around and discuss which ones are their favorites because it really

does vary from person to person because also the tone of their movies, while still managing to seem like a Cohen Brothers movie, you know, they're wildly different. Yeah. Okay, so Brian F, Brian with a Y, what do you recommend?

I'm trying to remember what I recommended last time, and I think it was the 1978 Battlestar Galactica. I think it was, yes. Oh, wow. So I'm going to go back to another 1978 great, which is Philip Kaufman's Invasion, of the Body Snatchers with Brooke Adams and Leonard Nimoy and Jeff Goldblum and Bronca Cartwright as a story in the in the in the in the in the in the

in the in the in the thinny novel that never gets old as it focuses on paranoia and the thought of everybody around you is out to get you is such a great place to tell a story whether it's, you know, Rosemary's baby or any parallax view or any sort of paranoid thriller. But I think one of my favorite paranoid thrillers is Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and it is a perfect movie. Yes. What a haunting final image, too. Yeah. It scared the bejesus out of me, that final image.

Yeah, probably, you know, probably the best hard out in a movie, like where the credits come are still like, what? It's sort of a soft out because you get deep-throated as an audience by Donald Sutherland. You just sort of like slip and slide down there. So it's less hard than it is a Looney Tunes Iris out down the throat, the guy from Cree. Yeah, they should play the Wilhelm scream when that's a little shot. That other thing about that movie that always flashed. Well, two things. First of all, Robert Duval on a swing in a priest's outfit, priest robes, is an interesting touch.

And that crazy dog with a man face. I love the banjo dog. Is that his name in the credits, Banjo Dog? That's what I call him. that thing is that's you know worth the price of the name so he had to choose a different name that I remember seeing I saw that movie in the theater as an eight-year-old and it was it was PG and when the banjo dog came around the corner and licked its chops I was aware of such a a tonal kind of

collision of horror and absurdity and it was simultaneously horrifying and funny and odd that I felt like I have never seen

anything like this that was striking this tone before in my eight long years of the Disney library So it was definitely a point where I was like, this is something that I hope I get to be able to do, which is something that nobody has ever done before. Yeah. And since, I don't think I've seen an effective man-faced dog.

No. Everybody's walking away from that one. They're not like trying to remake it. there have been a few remakes how many body snatchers have there been since that body snatchers three like they're like so there's 78 version it may just be too there there was the able for our movie in the 90s

that I think an even better scream than Donald Sutherland with Meg Tilly unleashing that shit and she's so good in the scene right before she raises her finger and shrieks where she's giving him to like, where are you going to go? There's no one like you left. And it's so terrifying. But the movie as a whole doesn't hold up to that moment.

But it's still a pretty good movie. And then there's the Nicole Kidman Daniel Craig version. And I feel like for the last few years, you keep on hearing from reps saying, well, you know, Warner Brothers has invasion of the body snatchers. If you have a good take on that, they want to hear it.

But we haven't seen anything since. So I think there's just been two official ones. Okay. What was that Nicole Kibnman one called? Was it, well, the Ableferr one was called body snatchers. And I think the Nicole Kidman one was called invasion. Yes, yes. Because I think I never,

I didn't get around to seeing that movie. And I really, I never, I think I never even heard that it was a body snatcher's thing. I thought invasion was like aliens or something. It's not marketed well. No, no. There's some interesting. I haven't seen it from beginning to end because it was kind of panned when it came out.

So I think it's got like a rotten tomato score in the 20s. Oh, they went back that far in history to find a score for it. the 1920s. Well, thank you for that one. That's a great recommendation. Nick, what are you got for us? So last week I recommended hundreds of beavers. This time I'm going to recommend Splitsville.

It's a movie by these two guys who did this other movie, The Climb. it's got Dakota Johnson in it and Adria Arjona and then the two guys, oh God, what are their names? Michael Angelo Covino. Then there's another one whose name is something that I'm Googling right now because I better get this right because I've got everybody else in the movie. Vamp, Vamp. Kyle Marvin. Michael Andrew Covino and Kyle Marvin. in the show.

Oh, that's great. I love that movie. Splissville is so fun. It's got like, I think one of my favorite fight scenes I've ever seen in a movie. It's like so impressive for whatever, you know, they can't have been like a very massive budget that they had. And it's like, we've got a fight scene and pizza movie. And I know how difficult those are to film. And they did such a good job with it.

And it's so funny. And it's great. I really loved it. It's Kovino. Martin who are doing or Marvin who the yeah they there's no stuntman oh yeah I I mean that's even more impressive if there's no stuntman because it's they really go for it and it's such a funny like the fight is I mean the whole movie's great and but like they do these fights that are like so intense and it's like two people who don't know how to fight fighting each other and

it's it's great they really go for it and it's I really I really love it Yeah, other characters just kind of stand around, like, watching them do this. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for those recommendations. That's three interesting things that people can seek out and check out. But, like, also, you can wait on those if you haven't seen Dust Bunny or a pizza movie and see the other one over your dead body. Yeah.

All right. In theaters. Yeah. That's right. In theaters. It's a good theater watch. I got to see it over there at the Vidiates premiere. And it was a fantastic big screen experience.

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In this game, I'll name a movie. And then three of you will be guessing how many credited performers appear in that film. Wow. Brian will be up first. If he misses it, then Brian gets a chance. And if he, ha, ha, Brian Y is up first, then Brian Y. And then on to Nick, if they both miss it. And then, of course, every time someone gets one right, the, you know, the next round, the next person in line will go first.

Any questions? Got it. So accredited performers, basically anyone that would just appear in the cast. lists on IMDB, like probably with a line or, you know, above a background actor. You know, a lot of times they'll figure out various people that were in something that didn't get credited and they'll do uncredited. But that's like, you know, at the bottom of the list, I'm not including those. But I am included, including like the reason I say performers is because I'm including credited animals. Okay.

when that happens. I hope one of these is Day of the Animals with the Georgia. And are we going for closest or a direct hit for numbers? Direct hit. Okay. And what you should have, I didn't pay close attention to all of the end titles, but I do, I am an end titles watcher. And it's been fun to say Snacketron and then a name of what, who played Snacketron.

Yeah. Mr. Bobby Moynihan. Oh, well, so is he credited for the voice of it? He is. I believe so. He should be or we're going to get a letter from SAG. Right. Well, you know, sometimes it's fun to make people, you know, have to guess who are voices.

And now that you say it, I'm like, of course it was Bobby Moynihan. He's great. Okay. I think we answered all the questions. Brian. in Europe with an eye. The movie is a story. Sometimes I'll give you a little bit more information than just the title.

It's the story of a man trapped on a boat, a small boat with a tiger. It's called Life of Pie. How many credited performers are in Life of Pie, Brian M. Great question. I saw this once at the arc light when it came out. I know that the movie is really known for how it's pretty much all CGI. Aside from the other animals, what other people do I remember in this movie?

I don't know. I will say, I'm going to say, I'm not going to say one. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, is there someone at the end that shows up? I don't know. I'll say three. I'm going to say incorrect, but I enjoyed hearing your process. My process? Thank you. Brian F., what do you think?

Well, okay, we had the guy who is in Prometheus who tried to pet the weird viper snake at the end. He was the guy interviewing him, right? He was like that. The son of the guy who turns into the rat and Harry Potter. and so we know there's at least three but wasn't his family in it? I saw it like I too saw it once in the theater

but I feel like there were people on the boat before he got into the boat or am I misremembering that weren't they like weren't there weren't there a bunch of people on the boat before the boat sink? I'm going to say 18? No, but again, I love how you got there. Nick, what do you think?

It's not 18. It's not whatever. I mean, I know there's the older him. There's the guy interviewing him. There's the younger him on the boat. I imagine there's some Andy Circus type who is playing all of the, who is playing the lion. so that's four. There's there's like, isn't Gerard Depardot in it or something

as like a weird French evil guy who gets killed or there's, I know there's a guy who gets killed. That's five. I do think there are a bunch of people on the boat. But my guess is, I could go for it. I think like,

God, there's probably like, I'm going to go eight, eight people. No, that's not it. You know, it's funny. I think you probably though remember it the best of

any of us, but it is also we've all seen it. We all love movies. We all should know that 41 people speak in that movie. So three was a little bit off, I would say. I thought it might be, I thought all your guesses were great. Like, I was like really

came into this like, well, Life of Pie. It was the guy in the boat most of the time. And no, it turns out. there's a lot more action going on so funny my memory just like remembers the kid in the boat

and like that's sort of where it ends with that movie I'm due for a rewatch aren't there like four or five different versions of the kid in the boat like is it like flashback when he was like younger

and he's like older and and wasn't like Gerard Depperd Deppard deppard deppard do like a chef didn't he have like a cleaver or something at some point yes

He definitely had a cleaver. Was the cleaver credited? It's just like, I'm not that clear. I mean, I know what happens at the beginning and end of Titanic, but I can't picture it because it was the least interesting. You know, to me, the movie is just about the boat sinking, you know? Was every metaphor in the movie credited as a performer? All right.

Let's move on to another one. Maybe this one might be easier. because from the title, we know there's at least three, well, there's at least two, maybe three characters, depending on when all of this takes place. The movie is called The Man Who Killed Hitler and then the Bigfoot.

Ha ha ha. Oh, yes, a classic. Yeah, unless one of these guys was off screen. Yeah, I don't know if they just talked. I never saw this movie. I don't know if they, it's been recommended to me. Like, people seem to like it. But, yeah, I don't know if Hitler is not alive anymore,

and this guy's just, like, claiming he killed Hitler, and then he kills Bigfoot. I don't know what gets killed in the actual film. Could just be about a guy who did both of those things. I think it was, like, came out maybe, kind of, maybe pandemic-y time. It starred, um, Sam Elliott.

wow yeah and like i said i've i've heard good things so but what's your what's your educated guess um i would watch a sam elli if it doesn't change the accident at all does he change his mustache that'd be probably the hardest sell to him yeah yeah yeah it'd be cool to see like nice nice gray you know white gray and bittler mustache um um Brian M. Okay. Just take a shot. Yeah, yeah.

I've never seen a trailer for this movie. I could stay consistent and say three, because it feels like there are definitely three here, but I'm going to bump it up to six. I'm going to say six. Okay. That's not the number, though. Oh, fuck.

Brian F. I'm going to go since I've never heard of this movie before just now. I'm going to go back to my days as a Star Trek writer. And the number that kept on appearing that everybody sort of loved to hate and also was the year of the Roswell alien landing was 1947. So I'm going to say 47. Probably the best reason to say a number out last. out, but that's not the number I'm looking for.

Bullshit! Nick? Okay, man who killed Hitler and then Bigfoot? Then the Bigfoot. They even have one of... Unnecessary, I mean... So there's a lot of Bigfoot's... This is also a cross-continental

movie, I'm imagining, because Hitler would have been in Germany and the Bigfoot would be in the Pacific Northwest. Is that where Bigfoot is? Or I don't know. Maybe he's in the Swiss Alps, the Yeti. So, I don't know, since we're just choosing numbers, there's the number 89 on my desk here.

I'm going to go with 89. I love this is a great style of play because it really is like, you know, none of us have even seen this movie, but allegedly 29 people have things to say. you know, recognized by SAG as roles in the film. All right, this next one, I think I'm really just giving, I'm just handing this one to you guys. Somebody's definitely going to get this one, I think.

Even if you don't remember the name of this movie, because this movie was the great Alan Rickman interrogating the not as great, but certainly was good in the work that she did get Madeline Stowe. This is a movie about Alan Rivman interrogating

Madeline Stowe and it's called Closetland. Okay. Was it 90s? Was Closetland the 90s? It might have been, yeah. I feel like I saw that in college. Yeah, that sounds right. Sounds like

a lot of people didn't make the effort to see this movie. But Brian, Brian M, what do you think? Yeah, I also did not make the effort to see this film yet. I've been way undershooting it, thinking that we've been maybe doing these small little domestic dramas. We haven't been so far.

I don't know if I should stick with a small number to see if I finally get one. It's about an interrogation. It's called Closetland. It feels small in nature to me. I will. I'll stick to the number, I'll say five for this one. No, I'm sorry. It's not five.

Brian F. I've seen this movie? I... Is that a question? I'm pretty sure I've seen it. I'm going to say two. I think it's just... I think it's a two-hander.

I think it's just them in the closet. It really, genuinely is just two people in the interrogation room for the entire film. So, Brian gets a point for that one. Great job, Brian. Thank you. Nick, you're... were up first for this next one. We've got movies

nobody's ever seen, but movies, a movie I think we've probably all seen that on the face of it is just a guy talking to a rock, but how many people are credited for acting in Project Hail Mary? Okay.

All right. Well, we've got the rock, Rocky. We've got Ryan Gosling. We've got Sandra Huller. We've got the guy from the bear we've got Milana Weintraub A friend of Brian and I's

We've got Liz Kingsman Who doesn't have any spoken words But is another friend of ours In it as accredited She probably is She's probably credited So that's six Then there's the guy that Liz Kingsman

Is dating Who also doesn't speak That's seven There's oh God The class There's like two kids in the class that talk? That's nine. There's

there's there's sure. Oh, there's like two people in that big conference room, I feel like, that talk, that's 10, 11. Oh, God. What else happens? There's like a flash.

Do we see him? That's 11. I'm going to just add three more to that arbitrarily and say 14. No. Okay. I think it's more because I think there's like more small one-liner parts from like the generals and the people. I'm going to say 26. No, Brian.

There's a lot of people talking in that movie. And, uh, 43. again you know this is such a crazy game because you know it turns out that you know more often than not there's a lot more roles than you would think but 26 was just one off it's 27 oh wow so close right there all right i got i got one more for you and if uh nobody gets this one Brian will be the winner of this game. But, you know, there's a chance. Somebody could get this.

So, Nick, the movie is The Hitcher from 1986. If you don't recall, it's Rutger-Hauer stalking C. Thomas Howell. Okay. And the aforementioned Jennifer Jason Lee is in it as well, I believe. Yes. But in addition to them, how many more people do you think are in The Hitcher? I mean, I haven't seen the original. I feel like I maybe saw the remake.

Three. I'm going to say seven. No, Brian M. Four, the tie, if you get this right. Haven't seen it. But Nick said seven, so I'm assuming he knows something around where they are. So I'll say, I'll say 10. I'll say 10.

Brian's other Brian. Okay. Does this include, like, people on the phone, like, when C. Thomas Howell is calling various folks? Yeah, I think so. Okay, because I know this movie very well. I love this movie. Yeah, it's great. And, okay, so there was Rudger Howard. There's C. Thomas Howell. There's Jennifer Jason Lee, of course. there's the Frank Darabont Stallwart

Jeffrey Demand who is in it and there's like a bunch of cops there's a bunch of people who are like you know they capture him and they interrogate him and like they keep on putting that putting Porc Thomas Howell in a car and driving him away and then Rudger Hauer takes care of them.

So there's a bunch of cops. There's like guys at the diner, like when he eats the finger and the French fries. There's like people on the bus that get off and get on the bus. There's a lot of folks. Let me give me a number. I don't say 27. That was Project Hell Mary.

You were right about how there. You know, there's certainly a lot more people than the three main characters, but the number is just 14. Really? 14 total. But also, you didn't need to get that right because you were the only person that got one right, this game. So you win, as Nick knows from last week and as Brian is about to learn,

the only thing you get for winning the first game is having to go first in the second game, which we will play. After this break, we'll be right back. We're back at Dinosaur's Story. And Brian Fuller gets to go first in our next and final game. We're a little behind Skedge. So, you know, just a note to like shorter answers. I feel exactly.

Get through this next game. This one's going to, you know, compel people to discuss things even more because it is a really interesting list that I've compiled. The game is called Mr. Scott. I wrote down the top test 10 best reviewed Tony and Ridley Scott directed films according to Rotten Tomatoes. They both have films that are, you know, heralded enough to be in their shared top 10. and you're going to take turns guessing which films you think are on the list

the higher ranked the movie you guess is the more points you get and of course some other films did not make the top ten list we start with Brian then we'll go to Brian F and then we'll go to Brian M

and then Nick Brian Fuller start us off with what do you think is the number one best reviewed movie by Ridley or Tony Scott. I'm going to say, I'm torn between

Thelman Louise and the Martian, although Gladiator is up there, I'm probably giving everybody too many things. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Gladiator. You're going with Gladiator as the number one, best-reviewed movie by one of those two dudes. Best Picture

Winner, Gladiator, and a few other awards, I'm not mistaken, is number 11. Bullshit. Oh, wow. On the list. I was going to guess that. That's crazy. Right.

Really, you know, according to critics, there's 10 movies those two guys have made that are, you know, better. You know, by, not by a huge degree. Like Gladiator got 80% on Rotten Tomatoes. So all these other ones got between 80 and 100%. So Brian McElhaney, what's your first guess?

This is Brian McElhaney talking and I'm going to guess House of Gucci. Wait, hold on, hold on. I didn't even look to see what number House of Gucci got. But it might be the, oh, I don't know. I don't know for sure, but it could be the worst reviewed movie of the two of them. But I don't know, because some people liked it. It got a little bit of awards attention. But Brian McElhaney is his turn to speak.

What would you say? Okay. I think Alien seems like a good guess that feels safe. Right. So did Gladiator. and right here's the news about alien number one all right so that's worth 10 points for brian m and uh if you're curious

just to see how high their uh their you know their rankings went or their ratings went uh 93% is what alien got so between the two of them that's the highest peak they've ever reached with uh you know with these things uh okay nick what else what else is uh i think i got to go with uh felman louise love telman louise uh kind of an outlier of uh ridley scott movies you know not not a typical one especially at that time it was a big twist for him and it turned out really good and uh I forgot to mention that Alien was tied for number one. So there's one other movie that also is also in the one slot.

But that being said, Thelman Louise tied for number six. Wow. Yeah. So Thelman Louise is worth five points to Nick. Still anybody's game. That's so much lower than I would have thought for Thelman-Lews. Yeah, 87% on the tomatoes is fairly impressive number, but there's ones that did better and one that tied with Delma Louise. But let's see what Brian F has to say.

I feel like in terms of, Rickley Scott feels like he has had more of the bigger critical successes. but you know, he didn't make the hunger and Tony Scott did. So I'm going to pick a Tony Scott one next and say it's got to be either Crimson Tide or True Romance. So I'm going to go with True Romance.

True Romance is the film that tied with Alien for number one. Wow. Well, that was a huge score for Brian. Tied for first now. with other Brian not a lesser Brian Thank you

but the other Brian What's your second guess I'm kind of split between two Because I remember the Martian getting really good reviews but I think Like Alien Just because Blade Runner has become so iconic I feel like it's going to have a high grade

So I think Blade Runner Blade Runner is number tied. There's a lot of ties in here. Tied for number four on the list. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. And it's,

so that's worth seven more points for Brian McElhaney. Cool. Nick, you've got, you've got to get in here with the number three or four. I mean, I was going to go with the Martian, so I'm going to go with the Martian. Yeah, since you were going to go with it, you might as well go. Yeah.

I just want everyone to know that I'm not going with it because Brian just said it. I had already had that locked in the chamber. I see, I see. What about, so like, do you ever sit down and watch one of your movies with some other people and then cherry pick? Well, I want to know I wrote that joke. We never remember. Yeah, it's always becomes a mush by the.

end. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's good. That's really good. That's a good way to operate. And the Martian is number three on the list. Okay. Yeah. So that's worth eight more points for Dick. This is really, this is turned into quite a match. Brian Fuller gets his third and final guess. Okay, I'm, since the Martian was taken, and I feel like I mentioned it first and should get some points, even though I didn't choose it. But I'm going to go Tony Scott again with Crimson Tide. Crimson Tide is the other movie tied with Blade Runner for fourth place, and that is worth seven more points for Brian. We now have a tie

for the lead. Is it a Brian off? No, well, Nick still is in this too. So, but for now, it's a bryan up because Brian M is up next. Oh, man. What do you think came in at, there's a tie at number six, and then there's seven, eight, nine, and ten. If you get any of those, or, yeah, if you get any of those, that'll be enough points for you to surpass Mr. Fuller. Don't do it. Don't do it.

Watch it Okay, so since I've been going for old ones that have become Classics over time, I'm going to do it again. I don't actually know if this one is well reviewed or not, but I'm just going to say Top Gun. Is this like, yeah, Top Gun. I'm loving how this is shaping up because I know Top Gun wasn't really a critical success.

So they fell all over themselves with the Maverick movie, but the initial one, I think it was maybe fresh or close to fresh, but not way below these other movies we've been discussing. So now we've got a tie between the Bryans, and Nick currently has 13 points. So if you can name the movie that is tied for number six, you will sprint into the lead and win the game.

Oh, God. I don't know. I feel like, I mean, it's like I'm also now exhausting my knowledge of what movies they did do. So I'm kind of just going to go with, I want to go with something I know one of them did, which is American Gangster. Mm-hmm. One of them did do that. That's your answer? Yes, that's my answer, yes.

That's your answer, Gangster? American Gangster. American Gangster. Thanks, der, number 10 on the list. So only worth one more point for you, so you're behind both of the Bryans. But thank you for being here, and please do stick around for the part at the end

where we talk about your movies again. Now we go to, here's how this works. Brian M is going to, I'm sorry, Brian F is going to guess a title, and then Brian M's going to pick a different title, and whichever one of the two of you, whichever one is higher up on the list, because I'm sure you both still have at least a few answers.

Yeah, I got like one there. Hopefully Brian won't take it. Brian, what's your guest to break the tie? What movie do you think would be up there? which Brian Brian F oh I'm gonna go

with I think this is Tony Scott's last film I'm not sure but the the choo-train with Denzel Washington that was the working title it's called the The Unstoppable Choo Train

with Denssel Washington I mean that's one of my favorite movie titles, that's a lie. Because once you've seen the movie, you do see that it is stoppable. You know, it takes a lot of effort. It's like the never-ending story.

It's a lot. Yeah, it does end. It does end. You nailed it, dude. It is definitely on the list. Brian, what's your pick? I don't think that is going to best that, because it's the only one I got in my head right now, but I'm going to say Prometheus. Yeah, Prometheus.

I don't think I was going to win this. It came in at like number 14. Yeah, yeah. What was its score? What was Prometheus's score? I didn't write that down, but, you know, not as bad.

I feel like film nerds kind of hated on Prometheus more than anybody else. Like, everybody else was just whatever about it. But I made a reference earlier about the snake creature. Yeah, yeah. I feel like people like. it more in hindsight. I feel like I feel like that's what's happening. Yeah, for sure, for sure. But Unstoppable was the one that was tied with Thelma and Louise for six place. So

there you go. Between the three of you, you got eight out of the ten possible answers and all the top ones. But really quick before I reveal the other answers, Brian Fuller, what would you like to promote Dust Bunny HBO Max? Yes. Watch it on HBO next week or you can download that shit right now. Yeah, VOD it right now.

VOD, which is not an STI. Get on that, everybody. All right. And here's the rest of the answers. number eight or sorry number nine was kind of a delightful surprise to me because it's an interesting movie matchstick men oh yeah little dakota fanning yeah and then number seven was a movie that i thought uh or number eight rather is a movie i thought was sort of uh i thought people had mixed reactions to it but i guess critics really liked it uh the last duel

Oh wow I enjoyed the last duel Yeah there you go So like Was it good? I never saw it Um That's the thing is I never saw it as well

I saw a house of Gucci And that sort of I lost a team on last duel Because everyone was online talking about Each person you'd see Would love one and hate the other And they'd kept flip flopping And I was just like

Well I don't know what to do do now because also I don't have a thing against Ben Affleck and Matt Damon but I'm also not like you know can't wait to see their collabs you know like especially the idea of them running around in

armor and stuff was kind of silly to me but 85% on the old rotten tomatoes so they must have done something right thank you Brian and Nick for being here

Let's have each one of you to plug a different movie. Brian McElhaney, tell us where and how people could check out Pizza movie. Pizza movie is on Hulu right now, also Disney Plus, especially if you're international. I think you must watch it on Disney Plus. And it's a breezy 92 minutes, and it's absolutely insane. And it's available anytime you want. I just realized that pizza they sent me, it took me the entire movie to, like my girlfriend and I shared it, but it was so chewy that it kept us busy the entire night.

The entire time. Yeah. It was a breezy mouthful of food, 92 minutes. Beautiful. And fun. Also, remember that the song at the end is fun. Oh, good.

The end title song is fun. Oh, everything's happy. Everything's nice. That song? Yeah. Are you making fun of the Lego movie? No. I just realized that.

We just did too, actually. It was more inspired by the Renan Stimpy Happy Happy Joy Joy. Yes, yes. It's got a very, it's got that vibe to it too, which I'm always down for. I'm always down for a children's song that sounds like there's more going on to just being a children's song. Also, like children's singing is always creepy no matter of what. Always a little creepy. Yeah.

Okay. And Nick Kosher, what would you like to say about over your dead body? Over Your Dead Body, so fun. It's very big and in your face. It's a great movie to watch in a theater because you want to be around everybody laughing and gasping and hooting and hollering. And you can watch it at home and you'll have fun,

but you'll have to do a lot of that yourself or play audio of other people gasping. So I'd just recommend going to a theater and seeing it on April 24th. Nice. I recommend it as well. I recommend all three of these movies we've discussed. And, oh, that reminds me.

I don't know why I said that reminds me. And this is just something I need to do. Brian, since you won, you can come back as soon as you want, but also you get to name somebody for me to call a shithead here in the closing moment of the show. Who would you like me to do that, too? Well Could be a thing, doesn't have to be a person, could be an idea My first thought was Trump

Because, you know Yeah, wow But I'm going to say Sister Kateri, who was my Catholic school Nun teacher I love that I'm going to be doing Douglas movies at the Moon Tower Comedy Festival in Austin, Texas on April 17th at the Creek in the Cave downtown.

And the Benson Movie Interruptions back at Dyrus C typewriter in Los Angeles on April 21st. Thanks again to my guests, the Brians and the Nick. And as always, Sister Cadbury is a shithead. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talking. Eyes of gold is viewing promise makes it cocky. There's no room in his heart for you because the... Hi, I am Mandy Moore. Sterling K. Brown.

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