Doug Loves Movies - Eric Edelstein, Bryan Miller and Ashley Ray guest

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

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Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming baby, sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies. Hey, hey, hey everybody. My name is Doug and I love movie theaters and I miss them. This is Doug Loves Movies coming to you once again from dysfunctionalopia with another Homes Alone edition. It's Wednesday, October 21st, 2020. And my guests today are Eric Edelstein, Brian Miller, and Ashley Ray. Hello, everybody. Hello, everybody.

Hi. Yay. I like this part where everybody responds at the same time. and Ashley Ray. Hello, everybody. Hello, everybody. Yay. I like this part where everybody responds at the same time. Let's meet everybody individually, starting with our first timer today. She hasn't been on the show until right now. It's comedian Ashley Ray. Hi, Ashley. Hey, Doug. I'm so excited to be on the show today. This is just a dream come true for me. Oh I love hearing that. That's uh it's you know I gotta say like I'm the people out there know I'm a big stoner for 420 weed head. They I think out there they call me the black bisexual Doug Benson actually. That is what they refer to me as. So real honor to be here. That's an interesting title.

It's hard to fit in on stationary, though, you know? I keep telling them, please stop calling me that, actually. I'm going for more of an Arj Barker thing. They just aren't getting it. Ashley has a new podcast starting October 23rd called TV, I Say. And I'm already uh into that how how is that gonna go what's the podcast gonna be like yes so I think you know the way you love movies I love TV I'm a real TV crowd person TV club over here so it's really my my chance to talk to my friends my favorite comics people who write TV not just you know, what they're watching now, but their favorite overall tropes, their favorite bottle episodes, their favorite sitcoms.

We're going to have people like Steven Weber on the show to talk about Party Down. So it's just going to be fun. It's just TV, whatever I say it is, reality shows, true crime, everything. And you'll be like making episodes on a weekly basis. Yes. Weekly. Right. That's you have to tell people when it comes out every Friday. Yeah. Starting Friday, October 23rd, which is this Friday. I'm learning so much from you right now, Doug. So much. Well, thank you for being here. We've got two veterans from the show. I, you know, I did some scrambling. I'm not going to lie. We had, we had a show all set to go on Sunday and I had some tech issues. So we put together this show and I rescheduled the other guests, but these two fellas were able to step up and I appreciate it. Starting with, let's say hello to Eric Edelstein.

Hi, how are you? I'm good. I'm, you know, I'm proud to say that I won't call you Edelstein ever again. You can, you can call me anything. I know you, you say that I can call you either, but I really think you should stick with the correct one. OK, I will. It's Edelstein. And I would say I'm a big fan of Ashley on Twitter. She's hysterical. Well, that's, you know, part of why I make sure that everybody's going to get along. And Twitter is a great way to see like it's so funny whenever somebody writes something shitty on Twitter and I click up their account.

It's so funny, whenever somebody writes something shitty on Twitter and I click up their account, it makes my heart swell when it says, you know, right there, no one you follow follows this. True. It's always like, okay, good. Nobody I like likes this person, so I don't feel so bad. What have you been up to, Eric? Have you been doing any acting in film and television, you know, safely? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's wild because I built a recording booth in what was a coat closet before COVID.

So it's the weirdest experience, like make coffee and then go into this closet to work every day. And it's bizarre, but I love it. And then I just got back from Atlanta, which was definitely very interesting because I'm pretty paranoid of this whole thing. And Atlanta, don't give a fuck. It was amazing. But yeah, I did an episode of Creepshow out there

with Joe Lynch, one of my new favorite directors. And it was so much darn fun i've never gotten to play a part i got before and i i'm really fired up all right when is how long until we're gonna see that i don't probably i don't know four to six months who knows how long it it takes to edit all that stuff but it was just funny because you know you never think about the mom of a character actor but she was just shocked i don't die in it and then and then i'm like i'm playing a plumber and she's like oh so you're like an evil plumber i'm like mom i don't die and i'm not evil for once she's like dan he doesn't die starts yelling at my dad how did

your mother react to you being in the the uh juggalos movie family. She loved that because she would love to see more nice guy dad parts for me and less neo-Nazis and kidnappers and killers and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, we're taking baby steps here, Doug. I love it. And you are in a short film with our friend Ricky Lindholm. Oh, yes. And it's called Now I'm Alright. If You're Alright, it premieres friday at

the austin film festival and ricky's one of my favorites because she's so nice then they yell action and she's just so mean and horrible to me and then they yell cut and she's sweet again and we're going to get craft services together so that's a lot more fun people that are method that are mean to me during lunch and make me feel like i'm back in junior high again um so people can find the austin film festival just by googling it and then they can see my bio on instagram at eric j edelstein i love it um also joining us and very last minute so i really appreciate it brian miller is back hey brian i'm always free how's it going that's what i think of how i think of you it's just that you're just standing by uh right in my club of veils it just says yes yeah and you're holding it down in minneapolis

how are things over there in the twin cities overall okay we got uh eight inches of snow last night that was a little rough didn't love that but uh so but other than that it's good i'm not in creep show but i'm planning to watch it so that's exciting everybody plays a part in this whole thing it's this show business thing and exactly and i i do appreciate i didn't know you were snowed in so that makes it you know i if i had known that i would have even expected a yes even quicker than the one i got but it was still you're you're a fast responder i'm a yes yes not often correct but often fast i appreciate that i've uh you know back when we used to do this show in, in clubs in front of an audience, I never had the,

I never had the excuse 10 minutes before our show's going to start that they couldn't find a babysitter. But that's what happened to me today. And we'll reschedule that person who has a baby. That's all I want to say about her. I'm childless and lonely and snowed in. So man, I am ready anytime. I'll clean gutters, whatever people need done. Well, the first question I want to ask everybody before we get into the game

portion and we can go in any order as long as you have an answer. I assume my listeners all love movies, so can you recommend an undiscovered gem that might be streaming right now and people can

check it out? Does anybody have a... Yeah, I'll go a flashback. A movie I've always wanted to see since coveting the great VHS box art in the 80s. A movie called Blood Diner. Look up the poster. It's got just a gorgeous poster.

And I remember seeing it as a kid and always wondering, like, I gotta know what's in that Blood Diner. And Blood Diner came on Hulu. And I watched it. And it's a really great mishmash wondering like i gotta know what's in that blood diner and uh blood diner came on hulu and i watched it and it's a really great mishmash of like every 80s horror trope in one movie made in the 80s so blood diner yes blood diner and what's so what's so why you make it sounds like the poster would be something gross or bloody, but it's a beautiful poster.

Yeah. It's a, it's just like a really cool like diner, you know, kind of almost like an art deco thing with, but then in the background, it's sort of sort of smoky and Gothic. It's just really striking and it doesn't really have much to do with the movie. There is a blood diner of sorts in it, but there's possession, there's slashers. I mean, it's a completely nonsensical movie with almost every possible horror trope thrown in, but that's what makes it so fun.

That reminds me of, I was in a horror movie, Return of the Living Dead Part II, and the poster just looks like that demon thing that's on the poster for the original Fright Night. And it doesn't, you know, it doesn't look like a zombie at all. It just looks like some sort of spirit or something. That's where horror movies, I think, probably have the most misleading posters of any genre.

Absolutely. Blood Diner. Blood Diner. Everybody watch Blood Diner and then reach out to Brian with a Y Miller on Twitter and let him know if you didn't care for it. Who's next. I'll go.

I, I would recommend unpregnant on HBO max. It's a movie that came out. I think this last September, I just got around to watching it really fun. It's about this teenager who, who needs to get an abortion. She lives in Missouri and they, she can't get it there, you know, fun it's about this teenager who who needs to get an abortion uh she lives in missouri and they she can't get it there you know because it's missouri so she has

to go to new mexico on this like fun road trip it really is funnier than you know an abortion movie should be yeah absolutely the other road trip abortion movies are not laugh right yeah this one oh the just the hijinks the hijinks that occur with this abortion but i did find i found both of the leads in this movie the two girls that go on this road trip i found them extremely appealing and uh yeah the whole thing is like you say way more fun than it should be uh but also it's got the, the pointed statement to make about how ridiculous it is that one would have to travel so far just to get an abortion without, without having to run it by her parents is is the key factor there.

Yeah. And Haley Lou Richardson and Barbie Ferreira, they're the two lead girls, just absolutely so funny, comedic talents. I think, you know, it would really be this kind of heavy handed political message. But they just like I said, the hijinks. Oh, these two. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a wackier Giancarlo Esposito than we're used to. Yeah, it would almost have to be, wouldn't it? Yeah, well, he's always the villain you know and uh

lately and um in this one he's uh he's just a fun guy that uh lends a hand helps out just yeah yeah you almost think like oh no this is gonna be bad and then you're like goodness great what oh wow he's just being a nice creep this time yeah real twist for him it's crazy that bugging out from do the right thing has become like the scariest person in american movie culture yeah it's yeah between the boys and uh better call sol and breaking bad he's just like he shows that's all that's all it's okay um eric edelstein hi and i also got to say gene carlo is unreal in bob roberts which is an incredibly prophetic movie everybody talks about facing the crowd bob roberts and he plays an independent journalist named bugs raplin who's determined to bring down tim robbins but the unknown movie i love and i

don't i hope it's not unknown much longer it's about to be streaming i think right now it's just on dvd have any of you ever heard of from the head no. Yeah, it was waiting. Seems like there should be more words. No, from the head, because it's from the head. It is written and directed by George Griffith. The entire movie takes place in a Philadelphia strip club bathroom. And it is based on George Griffith's real day job where he spent years working as a bathroom attendant in a Philadelphia strip club bathroom. It's like no other movie I've

ever seen, and George is just amazing, and weirdly, if you know George, he was the bad guy, Raymond Rowe in Twin Peaks The Return, and that's only because David Lynch saw from the head, reached out to George, I just think this is fantastic, and George said,

can I put that on the DVD? Oh, please do so. Yes. And then he wrote that part for him, but it's all because he saw from the head entire movie in a Philadelphia strip club bathroom. We've never seen anything quite like it. And I love this movie so much. How old is this movie? It's maybe seven or eight years old. And it's, it's a, it's a really stunning work of art i love it undiscovered gem that we can yes find it on dvd but it will be streaming soon okay well these are three uh three excellent choices and uh i appreciate uh everybody on the show usually starts talking about you know tv show TV shows. They change the question on me.

But you all just gave me one movie that you recommend. Yeah. This segment worked out nicely. So now I'll say let the games begin. There's no prizes. It's just for fun and for that pride that you have from winning a silly game. And, you know, these days I make the game so that anybody can win. I'll start with something called Josh Chris Charles O'Donnell.

I confuse Josh Charles with Chris O'Donnell all the time. I don't know if that's a problem anybody else has, but I'll name a movie. I'll go to you one at a time and I'll name a movie. And you tell me if it's got Josh Charles, Chris O'Donnell or neither. And if you get it wrong, the next person will go in alphabetical order. The next person gets to take a crack at it. And after we do a few of them, whoever has the most points wins. Eric Edelstein, Josh Charles, Chris O'Donnell, or neither.

The movie is called Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead. Josh Charles. That is a fast and confident answer. And you are correct. Yes. How did you know that? I remember watching that, and I remember not seeing Chris O'Donnell in it, And you are correct. Yes. How did you know that? I remember watching that and I remember not seeing Chris O'Donnell in it.

So I got to assume it's Josh Charles. That is an interesting way to approach it because apparently Josh Charles, his part in this movie was so small or he was almost like an extra because IMDB says he's uncredited i've been there they'll cut you out in a second but sometimes have you been in a movie where they cut you out and then your name's still in the end titles yeah the main thing for me just you know nuts and bolts here friends is if i still get residuals so truly i did one i got hired signed the contract and then they replaced me before my first day of work with danny trejo which i would replace me with danny trejo no beef there but they still got me residuals and that meant the world to me so yeah sometimes you the name's

there but i don't like it if it says uncredited because then i'm like oh you're letting everybody know i got cut out. And of course they always say it's not your fault, but I'm an insecure actor, so I'm like, it was my fault. I did a scene with Ed Asner, and I think about all the time it got cut out, and I know it was my fault. I wasn't quite ready for it. Do you think Ed Asner thought you were like a hack?

Yeah, I think he did, but he gave me like a – he's like – he was really into a Laker game, and he loved Kobe. And then when I got done, he's like, Hey, don't lose your effervescence. They'll try to take it from you. Don't let them. Did he accuse you of doing nine 11? That's kind of an incendiary device in the third tower. I don't want to get too much into it right here. You know, Ed's got some opinions, man.

Okay. So Eric's on the board with one point brian miller are you ready i am uh charles o'donnell or neither don't tell mom the babysitter's dead josh charles that is correct as well i I stole Eric's strategy. I was like, I would have remembered Chris O'Donnell in that, and I don't remember Josh Charles in it, but I would have remembered Chris O'Donnell. Yeah, I guess I don't remember what Josh Charles does in Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dad. I saw it once in a matinee when it opened and then continued to live my life without it.

Ashley, you ready? I guess so. I feel like I'm at a real disadvantage because all white men look the same to me. So. Right. That was sort of the joke I was trying to make. Yeah. Yeah. I backfired against the one contestant of color. Yeah. This does feel targeted actually. So, but I am ready, Doug.

I'm ready. I was just trying to make the point that all of us mistake a lot of white guys for each other. Yeah, I, you know, I think coming from my TV background, I know one of them, I think, from TV. So I'm going to try to do this. I'm going to do my best. All right. And it could be neither. Charles O'Donnell or neither.

Dead Poets Society. Okay. Josh Charles. That is correct. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

You're on the board. You're on the board. I was like the guy from ncis los angeles he was not he didn't he doesn't have that range yeah there's no way he could stand on a desk and recite poetry the way those fellas did um all right we're back to Eric Edelstein, and the movie is called Cold-Blooded. I'm going to say Chris O'Donnell. Well, finally, we have an incorrect answer. So we move to Brian. Is it Charles or neither?

I'm going to say neither. That is also incorrect. Ashley? Hey, well. I'm going to go neither. That is also incorrect. Ashley? Hey, well. I'm going to go with Josh Charles then. That is correct. You are in the lead with two points. I want to say thank you for setting me up for that one, you guys.

Thank you so much. You're welcome, Frank. Back to Eric. The film is called The Drowning. The Drowning. The Drowning. I'm going to go Chris O'Donnell. That is incorrect. Right?

I'm going to follow a trend here. And all white guys do look alike, by the way, because I was brushing my teeth this morning and I looked in the mirror and I was like, oh, shit, is Josh Charles here? But he wasn't. I'm going to say Josh Charles. That is correct. I don't know what the drowning is.

It doesn't sound fun. No. It doesn't sound like it would fill a whole movie, to be honest. Yeah. It just sounds like an incident that they should just figure out what happened and then move on. Is he the one who drowned in the movie? I don't know. I don't know what happens in the drowning there's a mystery to me it feels like a child drowned and then and then like a child ghost you know haunts the maybe a new family moves into the

house and the child ghost haunts them i'm just guessing i don't know what it's about this sounds great i i believe this is probably better than whatever the movie is actually about eric what would the movie be about if it was a david lynch film well the thing you have to understand about drowning is it can be absolutely beautiful there's about seven seconds what i've heard before you break through the other side where you can attain true transcendence without a mantra and without going into 20 minutes for bliss. So we're just going to have that sucker drown for about an hour and a half and then really get into the bliss. Thank you, David Lynch. Fantastic, Douglas.

Now I live to meet David Lynch lynch and be called douglas by him okay so we're back to you again eric okay this is your chance to uh tie it all up if you know the answer brian has two and ashley has two uh the film is called The Darwin Awards. The Darwin Awards? Mm-hmm. I'm going Chris O'Donnell. Incorrect. Brian.

I sense a trend. I say Josh Charles. That is correct. Wow. That makes you, Brian, the winner. Congratulations. Yeah, it was Josh Charles was the answer every time. But I found it intriguing that he had so many movies about being dead or dying,

which I consider the Darwin Awards about dying as well. Absolutely. I have no idea what that movie is either. It sounds like a strange one and then josh charles also has the distinction over chris o'donnell of having appeared in uh muppets in space in case anybody was wondering um but yeah i went with josh charles is the correct answer every time mostly because i I prefer him over Chris O'Donnell. Yeah. Only really only know him from NCIS Los Angeles. Really? He was in Batman and Robin, right? He's, he's a Batman guy.

Chris O'Donnell was Robin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of a woman, that's his best movie, right? Charlie my boy. Great. Yeah. That's, that's an interesting movie if you go back and watch it. Oh my God. You know what? Josh Charles is also an incentive woman. I'm pretty sure. Wait, they're both in it. I think Josh Charles is a small role instead of a woman as one of the other students.

I did not notice that in my research, but that would be fine if it were true. It should be true. Tell that Asner it's true. I could have done Josh Charles, Chris O'Donnell, or both. Yeah. I would have been in the same thing at some point. Yeah. All right.

Scent of a Woman. I'm writing that down because I'm going to look that up after. But in the meantime, congratulations to Ashley. You won. I'm writing that down because I'm going to, I'm going to look that up after, but in the meantime, congratulations to Ashley. You won. I'm sorry, Brian won, but in my heart. And I was at a disadvantage and I think I did pretty well. I think so. I really do. So, um, we will be back with, uh, the second and final game of today after these messages. We'll be right back.

We're back! And now it's time to play Weird Algorithm. I think Brian might have played this before. You remember playing this, Brian? I don't think i have done this one all right we're good then i'll explain it to all three of you

it's called weird algorithm because uh the imdb website the international movie database has this thing now where when you click click on the cast of a film it'll list them in the order that they're billed oh yeah then you can hit refine by popularity and it reorders the entire cast if it's a cast of 200 people they'll all be on there but in order of their popularity according to IMDB. And this is very fluid. People's popularity changes from day to day based on whether or not they're trending on the internet or what have you. So the answers get quite tricky, and so anybody can win.

I will name a movie, and since it's October, it's all scary movies because Doug loves scary movies. And we'll start with, again, we'll go Eric, Brian, Ashley, but each of you will get a chance to go first and you can have the same answer. You don't have to have different answers if two or three of you think the same thing. I'll name a movie. You tell me who you think is the top-billed person according to this popularity index. And then that's worth three points if you nail it. You get two points if the person was second-billed and one point if they're third-billed. Most points after three rounds wins, and everybody gets a chance to go first.

And you can also discuss your answers out loud. You can walk us through your thoughts. Ready, Eric? I am. The film is Black Swan. Boy. Not a conventional horror movie, still very terrifying but very horrific yes lots of lots of violent imagery and behaviors

what do you think who do you think in that movie would get the number one spot once again between portman and kun, it's probably neck and neck. I'm going to go Natalie Portman. All right. Eric thinks Natalie Portman would be number one. Brian? Yeah, so I have played this game. And the thing I remembered about it is that it is very tricky because it's,

it's, it's always like, Oh, someone was in a state farm commercial yesterday and their popularity is really high. There's some strange people in this movie. I think I remember one of the Marvel guys is in this movie. One of the, the winter soldier guy. Yeah. Sebastian Stan is in black swan i do not even remember him in it i i remember his face because i just i and i just re-watched black swan and i was like oh yeah marvel guy um i'm gonna go with that just because sebastian stan is in marvel

movies a lot and he's he's in the new disney plus show that's gotta help oh he is yeah i think he's a winter soldier right i think he's a really good actor. His appearance is very different every time you see him, so it's hard to nail him down. He's also Jeff Galooly in I, Tonya. Yeah. Very good as Galooly. So good as Galooly.

Yeah. Almost unrecognizable. It's how good he is in that movie. Wow. Okay, so that's where you're going with Brian? yeah all right what do you think ashley okay you know i'm i'm gonna go a little different i'm gonna go with winona rider oh yeah that was my second that was my second guess yeah because i was like i was gonna go superhero guy you took that i'm gonna stick with the women and go with Winona okay let's break it down uh starting with I'll go all the way back to fourth place since her name did come up uh Mila Kunis is listed fourth she needs to get out there and do something

there you know when's bad mom's three gonna come out you know she'll she'll rock it to the top of the popularity index if that trilogy gets completed uh coming in at number three sebastian stan nice all right on that one that's uh one point for brian and then number two is natalie portman so eric picks up two points for that and the number one person in black swan come on is the title character no it's uh winonader. Yes. You did it. My girl. That's my girl. Always trust in Winona.

Trust in Winona. That's a good way to live, I think. But she, I guess she's, obviously she's still on Stranger Things. It's still an ongoing smash success. But what else would make her more popular today than natalie portman is there something else that happened with winona rider lately i wonder if it's just beetlejuice traffic you know like oh yeah i think there's beetlejuice there was something with like uh some johnny depp drama with her and then she dated keanu reeves or something and he was back in the news see she dates a lot of famous people.

I was banking on that too. Yeah. She's been with some of these, uh, some of the, uh, bigger male movie stars. And, um, so I hope that's not the reason she's number one. I hope it's just because she's great. And, uh of course on stranger things she's uh you know she's the top build uh person in that david harbour was a character actor people weren't that familiar with they just sit around confusing him with eric edelstein you've been reading my mail has anybody ever thought you were david har Yeah. And it's a real disappointing feeling when people realize that I'm not,

I'll just say that. And I can almost tell now, cause it'll happen a couple of times depending on facial hair. And I kind of know where my level of excitement, if somebody comes up to me, which is, you know, a medium like, Hey, and then there's been a couple of times where they're like shaking and i'm like oh man this and i'll kind of be like yeah i'm not him and like you're really not and even once in europe someone kept thought i was being difficult and denying him and i'm like i swear i'm not and then

i had to pull up my own imdb to convince them and then they kind of went oh okay and then i had to walk them through what they might have seen me in and And then they remembered. But I'm great with it. It's all good. I mean, at least you're not a guy walking around getting mistaken for David Harbour they can't back it up with. But I am in these movies. Doug, you'd be surprised how little people care if you die and stuff. I learned that the hard way at the first convention. I'm like, these autographed pictures of me getting eaten by a dinosaur are gonna fly out the window but like people are fired up to talk to you for a second but not to like commemorate your death

yeah death is a sad sad thing it's a weird thing actually i the i had a really awkward experience like that based off doing doug loves movies it was like right after the first time I'd done the show. And it was like three nights later and I was in a bar in Fargo before a show. And the guy goes, Hey man, I recognize your, your name. You were on Doug loves movies this week, man. That is my favorite podcast. I love that show. And I was like, Oh, that's great. Can I get a free Miller light? And he goes, nah, it wasn't even worth one free Miller light. This guy's enthusiasm for me. I love your attitude. Just like, Oh, this guy likes me.

What can he give me right now? Yeah. That was what I had saw immediately. So I was like that point me to that. I mean, as a black woman, I'm mostly just confused with pretty much any other black woman at any other time. I get Raven Simone a simone a lot uh so you know yeah i don't know what you're gonna get from from people thinking you're raven simone but i maybe some sympathy yeah i hate to do it can i drop a quick raven simone covid story please i mean i know it happens a lot very timely no for real so so i was i'm totally and was

like hyper vigilant with covid and as you know you may or may not know my wife is a dog groomer and she's now moved to larchmont but it was at our house up until the end of august and i was like please we please just make sure people wear masks dropping off their dogs we have a fence they can stay 10 feet away i look back one day and there's somebody not wearing a mask and it's raven simone like well and on this can you cut the poodle this way and i mean i like i i was seriously upset and i'm like how can she not wear a mask and again my wife's like you're crazy she's 15 feet away i'm like well i know i'm probably crazy but let's get a mask on raven i know why she doesn't wear a mask.

Who would know it's Raven Simone if she wore a mask? I think you're on to something. Because I will say, I told my wife recently, because so much of any time I go out, and I'm thrilled to do it, is people going, where do I know you from? I go to high school with you, and I'll walk them through it. And now, just nothing. Nothing at all.

And I'm like, hey, this used to be a thing, friends. No one. Yeah, actually. You should get a mask with your IMDB credits on it. I know. I want to apologize to Raven because, Eric, that was actually me that day. Oh, my God.

This is so. It happens all the time. Like I said. Oh, no, Ashley. I'm so sorry. I'm part of the problem. Yeah. I'm definitely going to start saying when I see somebody without a mask,

that's so Raven. But I have to say she should not, she had no need to wear a mask. She was 15 feet away. This was my hypervigilance and Raven, I'm sure is as, as afraid of COVID as we all are. She probably had a mask in the car. Oh, I think she was holding onto it. I have real problems. I have a lot of people really,

really cling to this idea that having a mask nearby is enough i see so many people walking around holding their mask in their hand yeah i had a guy just wave his at me one time he was walking pat and he just waved it like i have it so you know like it's a talisman or something like it's here it's ready to be put into service if you know if we're gonna be all right time for round two ashley is uh in the lead with three points eric has two and brian has one brian gets to go first this round and the film is another not necessarily a traditional horror film, but it's still disturbing enough to make the cut in my mind. American Psycho. Oh, gosh.

Yeah. Who do you think from American Psycho is the most popular right now? Man, there's so many actresses in that. Briefly, thanks toian bale's character um i'm gonna i'm gonna say batman still keeps bale up top that's what i think you're going christian bale i'm going christian bale okay uh ashley you could uh ashley you could also go christian bale or come up with uh somebody else uh okay i haven't seen this movie in a long time but i reese witherspoon is in it right oh yeah okay that because i'm going her she just she just had this phenomenal run of tv shows that came out nominated for emmys i gotta go with reese that's the answer. That's going to be the answer.

She's really been, she's been, she's been working and and producing like she's guiding her own ship. She's like turning every book into a TV show that she can make herself the star of. And they're all so good. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. That's going to come up on your new podcast oh oh yeah we'll be talking about big little lies i should just do a whole episode for reese witherspoon honestly did you enjoy big little lies i you know uh yeah sure i guess it's pretty. I, they all definitely were acting very good. I love how beautiful it was.

I can't say that I cared about these like incredibly rich white women, but goodness, were they nice to look at? Yeah. It had a real, it had a mood. The soundtrack was good because they had that, they had that little girl character who was precocious and loved cool music. Yeah. I always love a precocious little girl character who's just like, I get it. My parents don't.

And because you know, that little actress is pretty much that way off camera as well. Like she's got it together, even though she's 10 or whatever. And that series, I like the second season better because they got rid of that that thing where for the entire first season, they kept just showing glimpses of people talking about what had happened. Yeah. They were being interrogated. Yeah. And I that was I didn't liked that device though like oh revealing eventually people are going to be you know interrogated in a prison room it's like okay you're taking away all the drama of whatever happens but the second season i was just like i don't know i feel like like the police would just

be like come on we have questions i just was so suspicious all the time and you're just like it's very clear these women did something right like everybody like are they just that beautiful that people are like their their body weight index is too low they couldn't murder someone yeah well their their biggest foe in that second season is just uh meryl streep as a you know nasty old white woman and so he's just not impressed by them so like her biggest thing is she's just like i'm not impressed by you and i think you killed my son yeah she's like um she's like the shania twain of the situation you killed my son and that doesn't impress me don't impress me much um uh so eric you're left to to weigh in on this one.

I'm just going to have to bank on all the kids that fetishize the Joker and his worldview and hope somehow Jared Leto crack that top two. That's an interesting one. Okay. So Brian, you want to stay locked in and Christian Bale or do you, you know, your second, I'll stick with, I'll stick with bail, but I do think Reese Witherspoon's gonna be the answer okay and uh so Ashley's going with Reese and Eric's going with uh Leto and interestingly enough out of the entire cast coming in at number nine for I assume just an appearance like in a picture or something on screen,

Ronald Reagan. Cause I guess I, I seem to recall that Patrick Bateman character was super into Reaganomics and Ronald Reagan. So he probably had like a framed picture of him in his home or something. Jumping ahead to number seven. Cause I just thought it was interesting. Willem Dafoe. And then number five, sorry, Eric, number five is Jared Leto.

Fair. And then coming in number three was Chloe Savigny. Ooh, I almost went with that one too. She was on that TV show, what was it called? Big Love? Yeah, she was on Big Love show. What was it called? Big love. Yeah. She was on big love, but I couldn't think of anything recent that she's really done, but she did just have a, a, like a photo shoot come out for something.

Yeah. She just played like a supportive mom and something. Yeah. I feel like she's reaching that age as like an actress where she's coming up as like the supportive mom, like, you know, where Winona was with Stranger Things. Yeah, and she had an arc on Justified where she played some trailer park trash. And, you know, she works pretty consistently and I always like her. But that big love show, I could never get into sympathizing with the concept of, uh, a guy having multiple wives. Yeah. It's, it's not a very good show. Of course I've seen it cause I've seen everything, but it's, it's not worth it. You're not missing anything.

Um, yeah, it just doesn't seem to be one of those shows. People are like wishing, you know, that there'd be a reboot or something, you know? Yeah, no, it's, there's no one to root for. It's like, Oh, is it the guy who has three wives and wants to make, I don't know, mainstream cult polyamory or the people who are like, we just want to marry our daughters. Those are the, the, yeah, the heroes and villains and big love. So it was weird. It was a weird show. Number two, who said Reese Witherspoonpoon i did two points for you ashley how is she number

two because number one is i assume the title character the american psycho himself christian bale people love batman they will not stop talking about Batman ever. Yeah. I don't know. Like is, uh, is the new Batman with, uh, what's his name? Pattinson. Is that gonna, is that gonna make people forget Christian Bale or is he just going to be the, the most, the biggest Batman of all time? I don't know. Those Nolan people are just, I'm not like Christopher Nolan movies, but they, you know, they're a loud group on the internet. So I assume they, they do a lot of clicking.

It's true. They get really mad if you don't, if you, uh, you know, don't understand tenant or find Inception to be absolutely lacking any heart. I feel like Christopher Nolan people are people who have pretty good taste but have never seen any other movies yeah you're like yeah it's good but you know there are other there are other things there you know there are things that that are better than this that came before this and they're just not really interested in in going there like if somebody's crying in a christopher nolan movie i'm not crying along with them i'm just watching somebody cry you know like i don't get into the characters and what they're going through

even though he does do some cool stuff probably making people angry right now yeah i i don't know i'm a little disappointed that that my girl reese wasn't number one this feels a little like sexism that my girl Reese wasn't number one. This feels a little like sexism. Who's your guys' favorite Batman, though? Like, mine's Michael Keaton, not even close, but I'm probably dating myself. Who is it for you all?

Well, I mean, I'm very young. Like, I'm very young. I'm not even in my 30s. So I have to go with Christian Bale because that's the one that came out, you know, for me when I was in high school, and it was was so hot and his voice was all dark and scary. So Bale's my Batman, I got to say. Adam West all the way. Respect, respect.

I don't think I was alive when he did that, right? I wasn't either, but it doesn't matter. It's so great. That show, I thought I didn't realize how much until I rewatched it recently that it wasn't an accident. It's so great. That show, I thought, I didn't realize how much until I rewatched it recently that it wasn't an accident. It was so funny. It's a really, really funny show for adults wrapped in a silly kid show. Yeah, they definitely went for jokes and stuff in that show and had a lot of really excellent character actors playing all the villains and really like seeming to have a very good time doing it.

Yeah. The color schemes are just popping everywhere. And then you'd be watching and it's like, Oh, it's Vincent price. You know, or Ben Johnson is in this episode. All these old actors. I love it. Yeah. Ashley's probably a big Ben Johnson fan. Is that the guy from Gandhi? Gandhi. But that's Ashley. Do you have to tell people on the phone that do you have to say often I'm not 30 yet because you sound older than you are? I think I do have to tell people my age all the time. People always think I'm older. I don't really know why. I guess I do have like a long

career or something. People are always like, oh, you've been doing this for so long. So I think I'm older. I don't really know why. I guess I do have like a long career or something. People are always like, oh, you've been doing this for so long. So I think I always have to remind people. But for a long time, I was lying on the internet and saying my age was 25 just because I thought it was funny. And then one day I was like talking about some show and people were just like, you don't know anything about that. You're too young i was just like what are you guys talking about i'm like 29 years old like yeah so you know but in the in this in the context of this conversation just really want to point out how much younger i am than all of you that really was my point it's important i do look like a young josh charles so there's that a young a young josh he's an age He still looks the same.

Yeah. I forgot to say when, when people say I look like Raven Simone, they mean from the Cosby show, actually. Okay. So Ashley gets to go first this round and, and is leading with five points. Brian has four, Eric has two. So Eric just even Ty has to really come on strong here. Wow. Okay. And since it's almost, you know, it's October

and also Christmas is approaching, I went with a fairly recent scary Christmas movie called Krampus. Oh. Huh. What do you all know about Krampus? I saw it. I think Adam Scott's in that, right? People liked it, but I was kind of, I didn't like it that much. But it's got some solid people in it.

Dave Keckner, Adam Scott, Tony. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Tony Collette. I was going to say, I think I remember her doing a weird Christmas thing. Yeah. She's in there. Alison Tolman from, from that first season of Fargo. That was so great. It's not a bad movie, but it's like, it should have been a little scarier

or a little funnier. Either one. It was kind of too much down the middle. Yeah, it had too many comedic faces in it to be like not, it should have been more comedic. When did this come out, recently? It came out in the tens.

So I think around 2013. Okay. David Koechner is just like in a different movie than everybody else. He's in like the Will Ferrell, Adam McKay version of the movie the whole time. That's the king right there. He's very funny. There you go. No, but it could have been,

it could have been like the movie Koechner was in, or it could have been the movie Tony Collette should have been in, but it was both at the same time, you know? Wow. Yeah. Tony Collette is, She's amazing. She commits.

That movie that's streaming now, I'm thinking of ending things. Yeah. Yeah. She gives a really wild performance in there. She was my favorite part, probably. It got more interesting when she was around, like it was easier to watch because at least something was happening.

It was such a, such a slow movie. It's that's, that's an example of a movie where I was, it was torture to sit through, but then once it was over, I was happy to have had the experience. Yeah. It was one of those movies for me that made me go see, this is why I'm TV Club. My attention span doesn't work like this. Yeah, it was a real brain buster

because it's just one of those movies where you spend most of the time trying to figure out what the heck is happening, but it also is very slow. All right, so what do you want to commit to for uh Krampus I mean I actually I'm gonna have to go with Toni Collette because she is the only person I have heard of who's in this movie and I don't know anyone else in it so yeah Toni Collette you know Adam Scott from uh oh yeah Party Down

yeah yeah from Party you know actually I going to change my answer to Adam Scott because I personally was recently tweeting about Party Down, and I believe that I have that much impact on the Zeitgeist. So I'm going to go with Adam Scott. Okay. What do you think, Eric? Well, let's see. I'm very biased because Alison Tolan played my wife and family,

and David Koechner, my brother in twin peaks, but is the popularity the most up to date? Like as of today, people searching, I guess so. I mean, as of when I looked all this up, which is okay, well, I need a hail Mary here because I'm way down. So I'm going to go based on, because she sadly recently passed away, Conchata Farrell from Two and a Half Men.

Oh! So I'm going to say that there is the, and every character actor doesn't look forward to this, there is the inevitable IMDb death bump. And so I'm going to go Conchata Farrell. She's great, by the way. She's amazing in everything. Yeah. Amazing in everything.

Amazing in everything. Yeah, she managed to be... She got out of that whole two and a half men thing without... She got out unscathed. Yeah. Yeah, she came out probably ahead of everyone on that. I mean, she was the best character because she's the only person that would tell Charlie Sheen what a piece

of shit he was. Yes. Okay. character because she's the only person that would tell charlie sheen what a piece of shit he was yes okay um uh brian what do you think well that could try that's that's the answer that is a genius and i wouldn't have thought of that so i'm not going to steal that answer um i was going to say tony collette i wanted to say tony collette for sheer game purposes i need to beat ashley by one point so uh i was going to say Keckner just to be different. And then thought, but maybe snag a point, but since she changed her answer, I'm going to go Tony Collette. I think she's going to get the Halloween bump. I think everyone's talking hereditary. Everyone's Photoshop pieces of pizza into Tony Collette's mouth.

Have you seen that? Yeah, that's pretty funny. Yeah. Why are they doing that that all the smooth scenes where she's screaming if you photoshop hot pizza into her mouth she just looks like somebody who took a bite of really hot pizza and it's surprisingly effective yeah she screams a lot in her movies she makes the greatest like disturbed face you know like that that that face she makes when she's like too terrified to even make a noise. Unbelievable. Yeah. I'm going to shout out United States of Tara. Cause TV fan here, that show was so good. Her range, just what she could do.

It was insane. It was the, the ability to play, you know, all of those characters and move from one to the other, even, even without costume changes in some cases, because sometimes she'd change personality mid-sentence yeah and uh yeah she was so good on that show i got tired of it being about her you know her having the multiple personalities because the show was so well written it breathe larson's character and uh her brother like all the other characters were so well drawn the show became kind of interesting aside from the the multiple personality

hook yeah and they kind of were relying on it more with like oh maybe she's gonna have a gay lover personality and all this stuff and it was like you don't have to do all this just just lean into the show it's a good show yeah it was good okay um so ashley's going with. I'm not. Oh, not good. Not a good enough show to get me to change my answer. It's still Adam Scott. Okay. And then Eric's got Conchata Farrell and Brian has Tony Collette. Yeah.

Very interesting finish here. Unfortunately, Ashley, Adam Scott came in in fifth place here oh that's worse than i thought that's i thought he would have done better because he had that show that was played this summer on abc called don't yeah and he he was in the parks and rec they did a COVID episode. Fourth place was Alison Tolman. In third, the voice of a character called Lumpy, Seth Green. Do you remember a character named Lumpy? There's also a character named Clumpy that Justin Roiland was the voice of. So I guess a couple of weird.

Oh, I don't remember that at all. Yeah, I don't remember it either and uh coming in at number two is tony collect nice so that gives brian six points total and eric that was a really amazing move you pulled right there. You really did almost come from behind for a time because number one is rest in peace. Conchita Farrell. I mean, that's the thing that all of us character actors have to look forward to is one day we will have a death bump and we won't be around to enjoy it, but that's the life we chose and that's Hollywood.

Well, I hope I go before you, Eric, but if I don't, I'll play this game with something you were in. You promise? okay thank you thank you doug in tribute we'll do eric edelstein or josh charles i'm a bear i i self-identify as a bear so they confuse me with drew powell a few other a few other bears uh so that means that means that Brian managed to pull this out with six points total to Ashley's five. So congratulations, Brian. But also very strong showing, Ashley, especially considering that I just picked a bunch of movies

full of white people. Yeah, yeah. You know, I should have stuck with Tony. It was hubris that got me in the end. My tweets about Party Down did not give Adam Scott the bump he needed. I should have stuck with Tony. It was, it was hubris. That got me in the end. My, my tweets about party down did not give Adam Scott the bump he needed. It should have. So congrats to Brian. And like I said earlier, there's no, there's no prizes, just pride.

But I hear that that helps you to have more COVID immunity. If you're full of pride, personal pride, you're full of personal pride. Ashley Ray, first time guest, her show that I'm looking forward to, TV I Say, will be available wherever you get your podcast starting this Friday, October 23rd. That's right.

October 23rd. It's going to be so fun. Please listen. You can check us out at theashleyray.com slash TV. I say pod or at TV. I say pod on every, you know, Instagram, Twitter, all that stuff. Oh, you got accounts for the podcast. Oh yeah. I got accounts. You can subscribe already on Apple podcast, Google pod. You can, as soon as the first episode goes live on live on Friday, you can know. Yeah, that's smart.

I, uh, you know, I finally made a Douglas movies Twitter and I, I love it because I just, I can just go there and just talk movies. And then my regular Twitter is just full of, you know, political nonsense. Yeah. That's, that was what I kind of had to do. A lot of people love my Twitter feed. Thank you everyone who does, but I will admit it gets pretty crazy. And there the people who are like i just want your tv opinions not you know whatever you're like doing with cum and breast milk today so uh brian miller yeah uh i'm going to be recording uh a project for helium records it's going to be november 19th 20th and 21st at acme comedy company and uh It's going to be November 19th, 20th, and 21st at Acme comedy company. And, uh, it's going to have a tight turnaround. We're writing it now. It's supposed to be out early December. So, uh,

I'll be posting some information about that. Once we get the, uh, the contract signed and everything underway. What's your Twitter handle? At real Brian Miller and a spell with a Y Brian with a Y. Yeah. It's a weird way to spell real, but it's real. Thank you, Brian. And Eric J Edelstein on the socials. Yes. That's it. That's it. So everybody check out. I'm all right. If you're all right, Austin film fest,

and then I have a new show coming out that I'm not supposed to announce yet, but it's for kids and it will be a lot of fun. And then creep show. And then Ashley, bring me on your podcast. Oh my gosh, please. I was going to ask. Oh my God. I was going to ask. You want the real truth on Chris Pratt, one of the greatest human beings in the world. I'm right here. I want to defend the man. Twitter was annoying me to be continued. Okay. I'm so ready for this whole conversation. Oh friend. It's on. That's awesome. Um, I will be doing a, uh, sit down internet standup show on November 7th at four 20 Pacific time.

You can go to rush ticks.com to sign up for that. It's only 10 bucks. I'll have a couple of special guests and should be a lot of fun. Thank you to all my guests today. Eric J. Edelstein, real Brian Miller and Ashley Ray. As always, I always end with the last line from a movie. And in this particular case, it's since it is October, I'm going with the last line from the movie practical magic. There is no man,

Jilly, only that moon. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. that moon.