Doug Loves Movies - Geoff Tate and Troy Tate guest

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Doug hates candy rappers screaming baby sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see because Doug. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. My name is Doug. Still Love Movies. This is Doug Love Movies recording on Wednesday afternoon, June 17, 2026, the day before I start my three-night engagement at the Funny Bone in St. Louis. but this right now is a very special episode with what was going to be two returning champs going head to head. But one of them was replaced and maybe you'll figure it out, as I say it.
Starting point is 00:00:48 My guest today are Jeff Tate and Troy Tate. Hello, gentlemen. Right. Sam Levine was going to join us today, but he was. He had, for personal reasons, he had to back out. And I thought, well, I was going to have this special one-on-one, you know, Jeff and Sam going head-to-head and finally settle once and for all. Who's better?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Even though they've gone head-to-head before in the past, but it's always fun to bring it back again. and especially since he won on last week's show, it's Jeff Tate. Hey, Jeff. Hello, hi, Doug. Hi, and Troy, is it? Yeah, it's Troy.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yes, your boy, Troy. The easiest last minute booking, who is also, you know, maybe not Sam Levine level, but at least also being a Tate, I don't feel like it's completely unfair to put. the two of you up against each other. But I have a question for you, Jeff, before we talk to your brother. I know you're the type of person
Starting point is 00:02:08 who'll see a movie, you know, multiple times while it's playing in theaters. But as that window closes, that becomes harder to do because movies aren't in theaters for so long anymore, you know, unless it's a huge blockbuster. And then even then, it's probably only there for like three months.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So my question to you is, What is the most recent movie you saw more than once on the big screen? Okay, it is Michael. Okay. How many times did you see Michael? I saw it two times, but it's because Claudius boys love it. Like, they've seen it four times. Why do you think they like it so much?
Starting point is 00:02:56 They like the songs. Yeah. A lot of the songs are in it, yeah. The music's good. There's lots of other places. they can check out the music. They must really love a origin story with a lot of holes in it.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, well, they don't know about the holes, and I'm just trying very hard to keep them liking going to the theater. Well, you know, they have announced that they are going to go ahead and make a sequel. A lot of it's going to be footage they already shot that, you know, Fuqua,
Starting point is 00:03:31 Antoine Foucault wanted the movie to be, and then, you know, he got talked in to taking a bunch of stuff out. So I don't know if the second movie is just going to be super bleak and courtroomy or what's going to, what it is they think the story they're going to tell. I was disappointed. Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to take them to see the second one. I was disappointed that, you know, that they didn't really get to the bad album, the song Bad and that album. Because for some reason, that was when I hit my peak, Michael Jackson,
Starting point is 00:04:13 enjoyment of his music is around the time of that album. And, of course, his video is hilarious where he's, you know, trying so hard to be a tough guy. directed by Martin Sorsese I hope I hope the sequel focuses heavily on those two white dudes and his dance crew when he went and met with the Bloods and the Crips to make the beat it video
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yes I would like to see how that day played out for those two fellows Yeah that would be interesting But that was a surprising answer I didn't expect you to say Michael but it was and also it's only two because there's just not that much time even with michael time must be running out
Starting point is 00:05:00 it must leave theaters sometime in the next couple weeks right yeah i mean it's already available to purchase the last movie i saw on my own volition multiple times was the nice guys i saw that four or five times yeah but that was also years ago yeah yeah it's like 10 years ago man yikes well let's say how long to the man who is filling in today, but not always, for Sam Levine. He's got his own life, this guy.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And his name is Troy Tate. Hey, Troy. Hey, Doug. It's some big shoes I got to fill today. Well, small big shoes. Small big shoes, but, yeah, metaphorically. It size eight big shoes.
Starting point is 00:05:53 whatever size he is. I'd be just guessing. I wasn't going to take a stab at it. No, that's fair. He's probably going to listen to this episode, so I should probably stop dogging him. Yeah, and I'm going to try to make him proud. And I was, you know, this is an example of,
Starting point is 00:06:15 I was going to show that Jeff likes to see movies in the theater a bunch of times, and that Sam is a snob and probably doesn't. But we didn't get, we're not going to get that answer out of him. But what was the last movie you saw more than once during its theatrical run trying? You know, it was a Top Gun Maverick. I was keeping going to guess that Maverick would be one that Jeff saw several times. You only saw it the time, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, I always saw it the one time. You liked it. I didn't, yeah. Not as much as your brother. there. I'm better. I'm better than not. It was a good two-timer.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And it was like a deal of the day or something for a $5 ticket. So I went back and saw it again. There you go. That makes a lot of sense. I, of course, you know, since I'm constantly trying to keep up with all the new movies, I really generally don't see movies more than once on the big screen unless it's like years later, you know, at a repertory theater or something. If it's a revival house, obviously I'll see something on the big screen again.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, you'll go see Michael when John Travolta plays the angel. That makes the circuit of the revival house. When they show that on a double bill with the whiz. Phenomenon. Oh, that would be really clever. It's going to go with the movie that's not called Michael, but does star John Trevoli. vault uh who plays my call that's deep i saw uh sinners in one battle after another multiple times in in screenings because i got invited to you know award consideration screenings and i like both
Starting point is 00:08:08 of those movies enough uh especially sinners to uh see them in you know i got to see them in multiple formats by going to multiple screenings because both those movies came out in so many different versions. But the last time I paid to see a movie twice, and again, I'm a member of the A-list AMC thing, so I could see up to four movies a week, and so it just feels like most of the movies I see are for free, because, you know, after like the first two movies in any given month, the pass is paid for itself, and, but last summer I saw Superman twice. It's good. I like that one. Yeah, I think I saw it the second time because it was like, you know, about to leave theaters.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And I was just like, you know, I'll watch this on cable or whatever on streaming. But I would like to see it one more time on the big screen. And I have very positive feelings about this Supergirl movie. I feel like, you know, based on what I know so far, I might like it even more than I like Superman. It looks good. It looks like it's got personality. Yes. Exactly. And that's going to, you know, that's going to piss off some idiots who, you know, have decided to make these superheroes such a, you know, political thing, even though it's funny that I'm calling it a political thing because, I mean, hasn't fighting injustice always been political?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah, yeah. I'm superheroes essentially. There hasn't been so many people against it until now. Yeah. No, it's very strange. Like, why, you know, just the whole backlash to the last Superman, like, why is he helping people? All right. A real libertarian stance.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Before we get to the games today, to determine exactly who is the best Douglas movies game player in history. See, I should have changed that. let's visit recommendation station that's where we make one stop to recommend one movie Jeff go drop dead gorgeous I just did it on my podcast and I never seen it before and it was so funny for your show yeah and you loved it I loved it now did it just get lost in the shuffle of time for being too
Starting point is 00:10:47 similar to miscongeniality? Is that what happened? I just don't know. It was, you know, 99 was a bit of a blur for me. And there was a lot coming out. If you ask how many movies have you seen more than once in 1999, I'd have a long list.
Starting point is 00:11:04 But I just missed this one somehow and never, like, I don't even think I knew about it. I kind of thought it was like, I think I would get it confused with a red-uporte. Really? Yeah, they just there, because I was like, it was just like I was reaching back in my memory for it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And they both feel like 90s fashion show type things. Yeah, but Drop Dead Gorgeous is a beauty pageant though, right? Yeah, yeah, but I didn't know until I watched it. And then, like, there wasn't a lot of mockumentaries yet. Like, Guff, waiting for Guffman had come out like a year or two before, but it's final tap. But the whole thing was. Oh, Gorgeous is supposed to be a, look like a documentary? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is. It's a straight, like, it is made like a documentary as if it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Oh, I haven't seen it in a second. I didn't remember that that's how, but it's like Kirstie Alley's in it? Yeah, Kirstie Alley, Kirsten Dunst, Brittany Murphy, the lady who saved Silverman and saving Silverman. It's other people, lots of people. Lots of people, you recognize. Will Sassau was in it? I know Will Sassau. He's in a commercial for one of the podcasts that he's on, that plays on Pluto constantly. It's one of the worst produced commercials I've ever seen,
Starting point is 00:12:31 and it's been playing nonstop for years. I only get the Brendan Schaub one. That's what I'm saying is Sassau's in that. There's a sequence in it where he's like, you're going to use that boxing you've been learning to do? like you know which is you know context it was probably funny but in the commercial it's just like what's he even talking about you know
Starting point is 00:12:53 and the whole commercials like that it's all just like people saying things like well you know me and I'm blah blah blah it's like with this ad where most people are finding out about you for the first time and you're starting with well you know me and now I am most people are finding out that there's ads
Starting point is 00:13:10 um All right, drop dead gorgeous. I feel like I watched it again recently, but then I also feel like, well, how good a job did I do if I didn't notice that it was documentary style? Maybe you're thinking of Predoportech. Is William Shatner in it? No, no, no, that's miscongeniality.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, I really do, I think, get those two mixed up crowd a bit. All right, Troy, what have you done? for us. I just watched Wake Up Dead Man that latest
Starting point is 00:13:53 Knives Out movie. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not that old. I'm a little late to the party as usual, but I really enjoyed it. Really, it might be my favorite of those three movies.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Well, I don't think it's ever too late to bring up this movie because it was kind of strangely looked over. I think part of it is that the whole thing of, you know, the whole Netflix thing where a movie that big just, you know, is in theaters for a week or two and then is on Netflix. Yeah, yeah. Just makes it feel like it didn't even happen, even though I agree with you. I think it might be the best in this series.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, there's no urgency at the beginning. And then, yeah, I remember anticipating it, but then I don't know why I didn't watch it. They came out right around Christmas or whatever, so I was probably just busy every day. And, yeah, I'm glad I finally got around to it. Yeah, good mystery and real funny, too. That Star Wars joke he put in there. That was top notch.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah, it's silly. I really, I think Joshua Connor is a great leading man. I thought it was balzy to have the story kind of be more focused on him. Like, you know, the detective is more of a supporting character in this one than the previous two. I like that.
Starting point is 00:15:22 He's a great character and really held his own in that big cast with a lot of heavy hitters. Yeah. Yeah, it was very extremely intimidating at Josh Brolin in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It was good. All right. Well, I'm just going to have to say, I like to kind of throw in my own you know, put my thumb on the scale, if you will, after the recommendations. And I'll tell you, in this case, I'm probably, I'm going to, I'm going to take another look at both of those. I'm going to look at Dr. Dead Gorgeous again to see if, you know, I've been wrong all this time and it's better than I thought it was. And I'm going to watch Wake Up Dead Man again because now Troy's got me thinking maybe it's not as great as I thought it was.
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Starting point is 00:19:49 Hell, sounds easy. Anybody could do it. We're back, a dinosaur's story. Our first game today is a timely one. And I wanted to play this game with Sam because he, of course, introduced me to the great Leonard Malton, who now by my count, is the last remaining famous movie critic,
Starting point is 00:20:21 because last week we lost Gene Shalett. Did you guys even... How much awareness did you even have with Gene Shalach? Because he hasn't reviewed a movie. He must have been retired. He's 100 years old. He died in 100, and I think he retired in his 70s. So have you...
Starting point is 00:20:41 Are you even, I'll start with you, Jeff. Are you familiar with Gene Shalett? I could draw him. Right. You know the crazy mustache, and you might know, might know him more from, like, like somebody like David Letterman was always having him on for bits and stuff, because he was in New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I mean, it's probably Letterman, yeah. Yeah, right? But you don't remember, like, you never saw, like, one of his, quote, unquote, reviews. Was it on the Today show? Yeah. Yeah. It was Critics Corner. He would, you know, because it's a short segment, you just get to the point,
Starting point is 00:21:22 but he'd get to the point, you know, with silly puns and stuff. Like he was really into wordplay. And I looked up like, well, let's see what some of this more known quotes are. And they're almost 100% terrible, like, terrible. like terrible puns, terrible commentary on the movie he's talking about. Like, just, it's awful. And I think that, like, you know, we put up with more dumb shit at the time. So he's not remembered.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He's remembered more for the mustache than for how stupid his reviews were. But he was a fan of movies and clearly had fun being a critic. He was more into books, I think. he reviewed books as well but so I put together this little game called RIP Jean Chalett and in this game I'm going to
Starting point is 00:22:20 tell you something that he said about a movie and you have to try to guess what movie he was talking about and I'll start I'll do the first one for Jeff if Jeff doesn't get it then Troy gets a shot at it if neither do you get it nobody gets a point for that round and the first person to get two points or most out of five will be the winner. Ready?
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. Jeff, what movie do you think he said about, I'm going to go ahead and be more specific what he was talking about, he was talking about an actor in this movie? What movie do you think brought him to say the words, spastic, elastic, iconoclastic. what actor or what movie what movie
Starting point is 00:23:12 the mask incorrect Troy I was thinking along the same lines as you so how about Ace Ventura that detective
Starting point is 00:23:25 well you have to remember first of all I'll say wrong and then I'll say the Ace Ventura was very much disliked by the critical body
Starting point is 00:23:37 Was that a good review? Well, I think it sounds positive. Iconoclastic. I don't think he would say about something he thinks sucks. But you're both on the right track, though, because it is a Jim Carrey movie. He said that in his review of Liar, Liar. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. Because by that point, Jim had managed to figure out a little bit how to steer it a little bit more towards not being, you know, hated by intelligent people. Although I think I bet most critics like them bask, too, though, now that I think about it. All right. So nobody got that one, but there's plenty more to go. Jeff, what movie was he talking about when he said,
Starting point is 00:24:30 A Brilliant to Logical Humor? Oh, my God. a brilliant logical humongousness I don't even know how he pronounced this word humongousness
Starting point is 00:24:46 of uh marvelosity all right let me say the whole thing again a brillilatological humongousness of
Starting point is 00:24:58 marvelosity what the fuck um uh Star Wars No before trial answers
Starting point is 00:25:16 I just want to say that part of the part of the strategy behind this game the prep of this game was how mad it makes Sam when he when it's just something where there's a million possible answers you know what I mean he doesn't like where you just have to take a wild guess
Starting point is 00:25:32 he likes trivia that's you know it or you don't know it and it's not insanely difficult okay but Troy do you have a guess yeah yeah i was gonna guess star wars so uh out of the one billion guesses possible um how about the empire strikes back no
Starting point is 00:25:56 sorry this was for the 2005 version peter jackson's king con wow yeah so i think he was kind of trying to respond to the largeness of the effects and the monsters, which I'll never, when King Kong comes up, I never get over the fact
Starting point is 00:26:19 that the entire movie, everybody's like, look at that gigantic monkey, we've got to take that gigantic monkey to New York. People have to see this gigantic monkey. And they're saying all this while being attacked by giant prehistoric bugs. Like nobody would be interested in those. Right. Nobody would care that we had to fight giant bugs
Starting point is 00:26:41 to get this giant monkey. All right. The scale of that movie, it is brilliant to logical humongousness. Now that you say, that sounds like the way they would like, in that old time, like the way that they talk like
Starting point is 00:26:56 because it was a hundred years ago or whatever. Like that's how they would advertise the show. Like the guy off front barking. No, that's how they'd advertise the King Kong's appearance. In a Broadway theater, there's no door. are big enough for the fucking monkey to even get in the building.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Do you know how they got their monkey to Broadway? No. Practice. All right, round three. You guys are doing great. Jeff, you're first. What movie do you think he said, Go, don't forego.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Fargo. Exactly. That was his review of Fargo. So, okay. Forgo, Fargo. Of course, he's a puppet. He looks like a Muppet. Yeah, he really does.
Starting point is 00:27:52 He's so Muppet. All right, here's one for you, Troy. There's no bones about it. No bones about it. Yeah, there's no bones about it. I feel like it's either two on the nose, the bone collector. Jeff, for the win. It's a little too whimsical to be the lovely bones.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Is that your guess? No. Yeah, the lovely bones is my guess. Final answer, lovely bones. No, he was not afraid to be whimsical about a movie featuring child abduction and all sorts of formleness. That's what he said while reviewing the lovely bones. There's no bones. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah. So that's how nutty it is. Alarious. Lo-lo-the-bones. Four stars. Hilarious. Yeah. And now we just all have to imagine how Sam would be that you won that game.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But here's another one, Jeff, that, uh, now that I'm looking at it, I think you, this one you might know. But let's see. Uh, he says about a character in a movie. he even sings in the bowling alley spare me is it the big labowski
Starting point is 00:29:42 i don't think anybody sings in that movie no but you know who does sing in a bowling alley uh jeff bridges in crazy heart i got yeah oh my god you're right the course as you could get without getting it that's another Jeff Britson's bowling movie but that's just like that movie crazy hard everybody loved that movie I thought
Starting point is 00:30:10 it sounds like he's just he's just saying something negative about it just to have a dumb pun about spare me he was all he was bummed out they found the kid I still go back and watch the scene where the kid disappears that could happen to
Starting point is 00:30:28 person, you don't have to be a drunk who's not paying attention at the bar, that kid, it's a magic act that kid how fast he disappears. Yeah, he took off. It's not his fault. He just fucking takes off. Like, it could have been
Starting point is 00:30:43 anywhere. They could have been anywhere else at the mall. Just so happens he was at a bar trying to get his drink on. Give the guy a break. All right, Jeff. You're our winner so far, but we're going to see. if you can keep this momentum going
Starting point is 00:31:00 when you go first in our next game after this break. We'll be right back. We are back at Dinosaur's Story and in honor of, as I mentioned earlier, the last living famous film critic
Starting point is 00:31:16 because they just aren't any anymore. Richard Roper, I guess, is pretty well known. That guy from Ben Mankowitz from TMC, people sort of know him. But can you guys name, do you know any other film critics by like if you saw their face? No.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It's just not a thing anymore. TV film critics just went by the wayside. We just have Rotten Tomatoes and just a ton of critics who, you know, just, you know, get to put their reviews on Rotten Tomatoes because they have a blog or something. But anyway, this is all a long-winded, way of saying that special just for today, I brought back the Leonard Malton game. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yes. And that is why that's what I was hinting at when it comes to last minute replacing of Sam. I'm like trying to think of guests who would even know the rules well enough to be able to go up
Starting point is 00:32:22 against Jeff without me having to explain everything. And if you're a regular listener, to the show but you started after the Leonard Malin game was a thing. Just you know maybe go back and you know
Starting point is 00:32:38 listen to some old ones where I explain the rules if you find this confusing but hopefully the people that aren't aware of it can just play along so I don't want to take the time to explain it. I will give you three categories to choose
Starting point is 00:32:54 from Jeff and you will pick one and then we will play and the first person to three points will be our winner today. Which category would you like to play, Jeff, between these three choices? And I'm not going to tell you what the category,
Starting point is 00:33:18 you know, what the title means. This is like how they do this on a $100,000 pyramid. Or is it the $250,000 pyramid? I think it's back to 100. When's it going to be the $250 pyramid? There's a Dr. Dre Skit on the chronic, the $20-Sack pyramid. Oh, that's right. Okay, Jeff, here are your options.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Would you like to play a category called TomTom Club or? It's a wonderful lie, or your third option is, give me that THC. Ooh. Look, just in case it has something to do with Tom Petty, I'm going to take to Tom, Tom, Tom Club. It doesn't have anything to do with Tom Petty. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:34:26 These are the movies. these are movies with Tom Cruise or Tom Hardy Oh Yeah Either Tom Cruise or Tom Hardy I don't believe
Starting point is 00:34:41 They've been in a movie together But I don't believe in a lot of things 2012 is the year Of this movie that's got Tom Cruise or Tom Hardy in it Leonard gives it two and a half stars he says about the film and it features an actress whose beauty
Starting point is 00:35:04 and wardrobe are distracting and he also calls the movie at turns ridiculous and exciting well this that describes every
Starting point is 00:35:22 Tom Cruise movie and he names 10 actors how many actors how many actors names you need to figure out which movie this is, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:35:38 10 actors, 2012, one of the tombs. I will say three. I need three actors. All right, so you're going to get three names reading from the bottom up
Starting point is 00:35:54 unless Troy wants to bid lower. How? don't know. This is my very first introduction to the Leonard Maldon game, at least was any stakes. I mean, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to say name to that movie, Jeff. You played amateur versions on it, but this is your first pro. Totally, totally, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Pro attempts. He's saying name it, Jeff. All right. So you get three names. And here they are. These are the 10th, 9th, and 8th build people in this movie that has Tom Cruise or Tom Hardy in it. And their names are Alexia Fast, Michael Raymond James, and Joseph Sequora. Oh, man, Troy, you're going to be so bummed.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Why? It's Jack Reacher. How do you know that? Because, uh, a, because it's Jack Reacher. and B, I actually know Michael Raymond James. You know him personally? Yeah, yeah. He's friends with Aquaman.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And so, like, the times of Tom and, like, the times of Seguera and Momoa were together. Cigura and Momoa get together and make Samosas. They make Samos. Then I get to hang out. Then the tag alongs hang out together. And that's the only movie. that guy's been in with Tom Cruise that you're aware of. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Plus 2012, one of those two. It was like, if it wasn't Jack Richard, I was going to say Jack Reacher, no matter what. Yeah, which I mean, I know that's your go-to. So I was excited that you bid so low because I really thought Troy would have a shot at this because I, you know, I thought you'd find those lower names to be, you know, the fourth name is Jai Courtney.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Then it starts getting into, oh, well, of course, it's Jack, you know, Werner Hertz on, Robert Duvall. I mean, those names really, really start giving it away. But anyway, you got it. Jeff's on the board with one. And how do I say we're going to play to three points. So you're still in this, Troy.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I'm feeling good. Yeah. And now I'm forgetting, how did I used to do it? Like, did the person who, the person who wasn't part of the challenge got to go next when we play three players? So I guess the two players, we should just let, Troy should just get to pick the next category. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Okay. So, would you like the aforementioned, it's a wonderful lie, or give me that THC, or titleist? Like the Godfall, titleist. Which one of those do you like? I gotta say I like, give me that THC, done. I mean, it's such a great... I'm not much of a golfer, so... Obviously.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Give me that THC is Films featuring Thomas Hayden Church. Yes. Troy the year is 2012. Leonard gives this film three stars, and he lists five actors slash actresses who appear in the film. And he says that it is violent,
Starting point is 00:39:52 sexual, and intense, and not for the squeamish or easily offended how many names do you think you need to figure out what this is? What year did it come out? 2012. Yeah. I'm going to go. They're opening one name.
Starting point is 00:40:28 You only need one name to figure this out. I was only five, right? I'm as stunned as you are, Jeff. I say name. I think I got a good idea. All right. Jeff says name it. And your one name, the fifth-billed person in this movie, is Gina Gershaw.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Gino Gersh. All right. So what is it? Is it a green room? Did your pretty good idea get crushed by? I don't know. I can't remember for sure. I'm speaking with it. Green room. Green room is incorrect. Do you know it, Joe?
Starting point is 00:41:24 No, I have no idea. It was, it's not Spider-Man 3. No. In the two slot was Thomas Hayden Church. Third builds Juno Temple. Our second build is Emil Hirsch and the number one build actor and the title character, Killer Joe. Oh, yeah, that movie. Yes, you're right. Squeamish. That movie, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I understand the review now. It's rough, yeah. It's a rough movie. Unless we talk about it, the better. Jeff is continuing to prevail. Gets another point. All right. But never fear, Troy.
Starting point is 00:42:13 because you still have another crack at this. Once again, your options are the thing about a lie. It's a wonderful lie. Or your other options are tidalist. I still don't know anything about golf. And matriculate for class. matriculate for class type list or
Starting point is 00:42:52 it's a wonderful lie matriculate for class that was Troy that said that nope that's what I thought did Jeff didn't we decide then whoever gets the point the other person gets to pick the next
Starting point is 00:43:15 Oh yeah no yeah I thought we were just alternating so now you know Now you know which one Jeff wants. Let's go with it. Matriculate for class. I like it. Okay, matriculate for class.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And this is college movies. Movies that are set at a college. And the year is 2013. Leonard gave this movie two and a half stars. And he says about this movie, he calls it amiable. And he also says it's thick with plot, but pleasant enough to watch. Thick with plot, but pleasant enough to watch. And he lists 20 people.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Wow. Yeah. How many names do you need? What's your opening bid, Troy? 13. 13 names, please. See, that is a much more reasonable bid than that one bid on the last round. 13, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:44:34 12. All right. 11. Name it. Whoa. Oh, wow. All right. All right, you get 11 names.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I'll give you the clues again. From 2013. Two and a half stars from Leonard. amiable, thick with plot, but pleasant enough to watch. You can get over all that plot thickness because it's so pleasant. And 11 names, is that what you said? 11, that's right. All right, here are your 11 names reading from the last cast member listed all the way up to 11 of the 20 names.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So nine people at the top will be left out. We're starting with John Ratzenberger, then Bob Peterson, Beth Bears, Bill Hader, John Krasinski, Bonnie Hunt, Julius Sweeney, Aubrey Plaza, Nathan Fillion, Tyler Levine, and Alfred Molina. A bunch of losers. No, pretty amazing cast. There's still nine more names.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Wow. What do you think it is, Troy? Oh, man. Takes place at a college. Takes place at a college, 2013. I'm going to get something that's way too old, probably. long ago, 2013 was anymore. But is it
Starting point is 00:46:50 stealing Harvard? Am I even close on that one? When did that one come out? I don't know, but it didn't have a stacked cast, like, you know, Haydor and Kaczynski and Aubrey Plaza. Yeah, it didn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:14 No, what kind of, Jeff, what kind of movie would have all those people on it. Well, the first thing you said was the giveaway. Yeah, right? It's a Pixar thing. So which is it the Pixar movie where Andy goes to college? Is it the Toy Story 4?
Starting point is 00:47:35 Or three, Toy Story 3, I guess, would be back in that era. Well, you know, I wish I could say, well, actually, I'm going to say you're wrong, Jeff. And Troy was wrong also. But let's play another round, though, just for fun. But the Pixar movie is, I believe, I could be wrong, the only Pixar movie that takes place at a college. And it's Monsters University.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Oh, Monsters University. Yeah. You know when they total up, like, an actor's box office and there's like Samuel Jackson has 20 billion or whatever. John Bradsenberger has like 45 billion. No, it's crazy. It's crazy. Like, you know, he can't really acclaim like actor and the most, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:31 the most money-making actor still probably be, I think, Zoe Saltana, because she's in, she's in Guardians and Avatar and Star Trek. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, and Ratsenberger sometimes will only have like one line in some of the movies and it's all off camera but still still pretty impressive just just being in every Pixar movie
Starting point is 00:48:55 and but also it's wild that you know that key clue Jeff that it's John Ratsbyr you figured out it was a Pixar movie but you still don't know enough about Pixar movies to know that it was Monsters University and I think the
Starting point is 00:49:11 did they make like a TV series version of Monsters University I think that's happened. It's like the wind's saved by the bell went to college. Well, this is a, you know, this is a prequel to Monsters Inc.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And it's, it's cute. You know, lots of fun people, like, listen to the rest of the people who do voices in it. Charlie Day, David Foley, Sean Hayes, Joel Murray, Helen, Miren, Steve Bouchemey, John Goodman, and Billy Crystal. Yeah, oh, man, I should see that one. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It's fun. Like, there's just a bunch of cute little monsters running around like like like I don't know what Leonard meant by thick on plot I thought it was like light on plot but uh you know maybe there's too many too many different characters or something uh for Leonard to keep up but um yeah and also like it's a prequel to Monsters Inc did I say that so like
Starting point is 00:50:11 I would have the clue would have been amiable prequel uh to Monsters Inc but I thought that would make it too easy. All right, let's do one more, Troy. All right, I'm ready this time. You get a pick between... Oh, you weren't ready the other times. Which ones have I said already?
Starting point is 00:50:35 It's a wonderful lie or a titleist? Titleist. Okay. That's nice to be to not make me read another new category. Right. Because I'm saving, you know, I'm still going to bust this out every once in a while, you know, just for the fun of it. And maybe even, like, since Jeff won today, I guess we could just, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:01 sometime soon, you know, wrangle Sam and have you go head to head. But in the meantime, let's play this one real quick. Titleist, like the golf ball, is titles that end with Ist. I-S-T. This movie is from 2004. Leonard gave it three stars. He calls it compelling, weirdly compelling, and beautifully designed. And then he names eight.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Actors, how many names do you need Troy to figure out what this is? I'll start with eight this time. Yeah, go the full eight. Yeah, give them to me. Hey, Jeff? Seven. Jeff says seven. All right, I'll go six.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I will go five. All right. I will go four names. on this movie. Name it. Your voices are so similar, it just sounds like a guy just playing against himself.
Starting point is 00:52:37 We're like, we're the bad Phil Hendry. If I hear full sentences, I can tell the difference, but you know what I mean? If you just say like one word really quick, it's like, which one was that? All right, so you said name it for three names.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Troy has, Troy gets three names? No, Troy gets four. No, Troy gets four. Okay. Well, that's really going to help. All right. Here's your four lower build names. Anna Massey, Reg E. Cathay, Larry Gileard, and Michael Ironside. Michael Ironside. See, I'm glad I got that fourth name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:23 That narrows it down to quite a few of them. movies, but 2004. I think Michael Ironside hit his stride earlier, like in the 90s. And it was what did Leonard have to say about it? He says that it is beautifully designed, weirdly compelling, three stars, 2004.
Starting point is 00:53:47 That's three out of four stars, right? Yeah. That's a pretty solid rating. Not bad. Not bad. All right. So now, do you have it? Have you thought of any movies that end in Ist? I have a couple.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Okay. Let's try one. All right, I'm thinking the pianist. Oh, no, that's not it. Jeff? Until you said Michael Ironside, I was going to guess in the mist. That would be true. So now I just know I'm wrong, but my guess is still the mist.
Starting point is 00:54:27 No, this was. The rest of the names were John Sherian, Alana, Ateana, Sanchez, Guijon. And then the Tom 2 names will give it away, if you're familiar with this movie. Jennifer, Jason Lee, and Christian Bale. Oh, the machinist. The machinist. Yes. That is it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Well, congratulations, Jeff. For anybody out there that's been wondering how you would do against your own flesh and blood in a dusted off Leonard Moll game. They now have their answer. You are the winner. You get to name a shithead for me
Starting point is 00:55:13 to say at the end of the show, who would you like that to be? I know. Last week I said, I meant I went Homan last week, so I'm going to go with that. Tom Homan. Oh, okay. You said the wrong name instead of Tom Homan?
Starting point is 00:55:35 I mean, I don't think I didn't say a shithead. I just didn't say the one I meant. All right, Jeff, what dates do you have to promote? All right. It is July, July 9, 10, 11, I'm in O'Clair, Wisconsin. 23, 24, or 24 and 25, not the Comedy Addict in Bloomington. July 30th, hashtag, or July 31st, hashtag comedy club, in Columbus and August 1st, Commonwealth Sanctuary
Starting point is 00:56:08 in northern Kentucky, greater Cincinnati area. And I have a podcast Saturday after a movie club. We just did Drop Dead Gorgeous. It'll come out, I think, next week. Oh, great. Some people can hear more about that movie that I was fuzzy on. Troy Tate, what would you like to promote?
Starting point is 00:56:30 Go see Wake Up Dead Man. I'm going to go. I'm going to go watch all these movies, Monsters University. I got a list now. It's a real double feature. I mean, I wasn't recommending those movies. I'm just, it was just a game.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I'm going to be at the Funny Bone in St. Louis this weekend. Like, if you went tonight, I'd be there. And then I'll be at Souljols in Potsdown, Pennsylvania, June 26 and 27. And the Benson movie interruptions back at Dynasty Type, in LA on July 7th. And Doug Loves Movies is back at the American Comedy Company
Starting point is 00:57:10 in San Diego on Wednesday, July 22nd. For details about all of these shows, go to Douglovesmovies.com. And thank you once again to longtime guests, last-minute guests.
Starting point is 00:57:28 You've done it all, gentlemen. Troy and Jeff Tate. Thanks, man. Thanks, Doug. Bye. As always. Oh, who is it again? Oh, yeah.
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