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Doug hates candy wrappers screening baby sticky seeds with 50 as a pop or kernels in his teeth
They're still not one that he won't see
Hey, hey, hey everybody, my name is doug and I love movies
Uh, i've said that approximately
1,573 times I've said that approximately 1573 times. A pedo account, you know, just practicing in the mirror.
And I still love movies.
This is Douglas Movies recording on June, Thursday, June 12th, 2025.
My guests today are a returning champ and two chumps.
I mean, favorites. Joe Quasale and Dan Siebre and two chumps. I mean favorites
Joke was awful at Dan Seabree and Ellery Smith. Hi
Whoo. Hey
What's up?
Well, you know, you know how it goes. We're gonna meet each of you individually and
alphabetically
By first name. He is a returning champ from the show at Commonwealth Sanctuary in Cincinnati.
It's Columbus comedy phenom Dan Seabree. Hey Dan.
Hey Doug, how you doing?
I'm doing okay. You know, just hunkered down in Los Angeles where, you know, the news is portraying us as being quite a lot of turmoil, which is
just absolutely not true.
I think it makes sense though.
I mean, you live in LA and I've always thought you as a rabble rouser.
Yeah, I'm out rambling, arousing, and then I come inside and podcast for a bit. Since Wide World of Dugs, which all, two out of three of you, I think, have participated
in, but we'll talk more about that later.
But thank you for joining us today, Dan.
She is a three-time Emmy nominated writer and stand-up comedian, Ellery Smith.
Hey, I'm excited to be back.
Well, you know, thanks for doing the show.
I assume you're also in Los Angeles.
I am in Los Angeles.
Are you somewhere safe?
Are you in a bunker?
Oh man, it's crazy.
I'm in Hollywood and people are gardening.
Yeah, there's a lot of dog walking.
Lots of dog walking. There's a farmer's market going on. I don there's a lot of dog walking. Lots of dog walking.
There's a farmer's market going on.
I don't know how I'll survive it.
I was chatting with Dan before this taping started,
and I swear to God, it's been quieter in LA than normal.
It's the opposite of what's being depicted.
I mean, obviously, there is some unrest,
and there's some situations downtown Santa Ana, but
You know it's not
You know all if I didn't if I didn't send in the troops, California would be finished
California we burned to the ground which also is like well this whole protest thing some cars are on fire
There's not there's not too much structure fire
At this point, so I don't know what
Yeah drivers he didn't send the national guard with the city was literally all on fire, but yeah
And you guys enter that pretty good. I thought you guys
pretty good I thought. Thank you. That was us three specifically. Yeah, well, you know, I did my part by, you know, I had to evacuate at one point and, you know, just hope for
the best and it worked out for me, but not for lots of people. Our third guest today
wrote and stars in a motion picture called American Comic.
It's American Comic Joe Quazzalla. Hey Joe.
Hey Doug, thanks for having me.
Thank you. You're also in LA, yes?
Yes, I am in Los Angeles. I am actually in a Waymo right now headed downtown. Is that bad?
Is it hot in the Waymo way more is it? Oh extremely
Cuz that's the other thing
Have you ever really done away mo? No, I've not okay because my question to anybody who has if you're out there
Like what what about like rolling down windows air, conditioning, adjusting the air conditioning, adjusting the music, like how far does all that go?
Or do you just get in this car
and it just does what it's gonna do?
You know what I mean?
Like with a driver, you could at least discuss these things,
but with a driverless car,
how do you keep everybody comfortable?
You would have access to some controls like the the air
I think the whole idea would be very
Pleasurable I blast it really cold and really screw over the next passenger there you go. Yeah
Ice box yeah
All right, well this isn't I'm gonna start it up soon, but for now. This is not Doug loves way most
I'm gonna start it up soon, but for now this is not Doug loves way most
So tell us about your movie tell us about American comic yeah
I'm really excited. It's gonna be playing at the at the Chinese theater as part of dances with films on June 29th It is a very personal story to me. It's a fake documentary about stand-up and it follows two
stand-up comedians who are terrible and they seem like they're on opposite ends of the
kind of comedy cultural divide one's kind of a grungy road dog Midwestern
thinks cancel culture is ruining everything and then the other guy is a
LA based climber industry kiss- ass and I play both of them
To be a part of it
Well, you know
As long as neither those roles make you think it's the other person then you pull a mask off then I'll be fine with it
I can't believe eight movies they made of the mission impossible and every goddamn time Tom Cruise had to pull his face off
It always works always works tricks people every time you think at some point
They'd be like, you know figuring out a way to check people at the door to make sure they're not Ethan Hunt
Right, but if it's really wolf blitzer, then that would really be insulting to him. I think
My favorite is in the first Charlie's Angels where LL Cool J pulls his
face off and it's Drew Barrymore. There's more than just the head and face there you'd
think that would need changing. And he's sitting there like full African garb in case you didn't
get it. In case you weren't like oh now that's the opposite person under the mask so Los Angeles
June 29th people can get tickets to come see it yes tickets are available now if
you go to like my Instagram or whatever or you just search you go to the
dances of the films website you go to my website you can find trying to get the
link out there wherever I can but yeah your Doug is in it Doug has a has a role
well you know I didn't bring it up or have you as a guest just because you put me in your
movie it doesn't hurt though doesn't it doesn't it doesn't at all you know it's
a little cross-promotion but that was gonna be my next question is did my
entire performance make it into the final cut absolutely yeah I would say a crucial a crucial part of the film so
okay yeah truly I think it's you do you do a great job and I tried to get a lot
of stand-ups in there in some capacity whether they're hanging out in a green
room or whether they're you know we shot at real stand-up shows that was part of
the whole idea was I really thought if we're making a movie about stand-up shows that was part of the whole idea was I really thought if we're making
a movie about stand-up movies bring in extras and they shoot for hours and they tell them
how to react and we were like we're just gonna have me on shows I'm gonna get on stage in
character we're not gonna tell the audience I'm in character and we are going to film
what happens and it's gonna feel authentic, and I think we accomplished that goal
Yeah, well, you know also they
the audience is now used more used to
What what it's really like?
you know in the clubs because of all the
You know
Crowdwork clips that are showing up all the time, you know, right?
Those have even though they're often staged themselves in some ways, they're still, they're
still like, just really in the club during a during a real show generally.
For sure.
You know, that definitely has a different feel.
I've, I've, I've had real issues with movies that depict stand up comedy from even back
before I was one myself
but
Before we play some games today, I would like each of the three of you which by the way do any
Ellery and Joe you know each other. Yes
But you're meeting Dan Seabree for the first time correct
Yes, nice cuz you should be everyone should be meeting Dan Seabree for the first time? Correct. Yes.
Nice.
Because you should be, everyone should be meeting Dan Seabree.
He's very funny, nice guy, and I'm talking about him like he's not here.
RIP, Dan.
I'm so sorry he passed.
I am just a disembodied voice to you guys, so I could have moved on from this realm.
A lot of comics, I think think move on, you know, mentally
when I'm talking to the other ones about, you know, their
plugs and stuff. But before we play some games today, I'd like
each of you to recommend one movie. We'll start with you,
Dan. What's a movie you think people should see or would like
seeing?
Rear Window, the Alfred Hitchcock movie Wow
The if he is is there some sort of like re-release of a bunch of his stuff happening or something
Well, I opened Netflix for the first time in like a month and like four of his movies were on the first page
So I was like three of them. Yeah
Yeah, and so I watched three of them. Yeah, Netflix is pushing them. Yeah, and so I watched Rear Window,
and by the way, he's just looking at his front window,
that whole movie.
It's just a window.
Bit of a misnomer.
Yeah, the movie should just be called Window.
Well, it looks into like a courtyard,
or is it an actual building across the street
that he's staring at?
It's into, it's like a U-shaped apartment building,
and it looks into the courtyard. So like it's a window
Okay
Let's go other than that great
Other than this whole window snafu. Yes. Oh, yeah. It was window business is out of control, but otherwise
Well, it's funny too because it's been remade like people keep stealing that plot and then just calling it something else.
Like the, what was the movie with the house arrest?
Disturbia?
Disturbia.
That's a good movie.
Yeah, he saw something happen across the street.
It was like such a ripoff of Rear Window, but it's such, that's such a great, you know,
just person sees something, can't convince people they saw it. It's just
like, yeah, repeated over and over again in cinema.
Yeah, it's like the plot of like when being a pervert pays off, I think it's very interesting.
That is such a sick logline.
Yeah, why is the guy with the binoculars a hero?
Yeah, right.
How does that turn around? the alone with the character actress Housekeeper. I've seen this movie.
It's good.
Ironside, the famous TV detective who is called Ironside,
it seems very insensitive of people who
give him that nickname because he was in a wheelchair.
Maybe even his last name was Ironside,
so it was like nominative determinism that he'd end up in a wheelchair.
But regardless, I'm doing like a standard routine from the 70s now, but he, Raymond
Burr is the bad guy and he's the murderer in the window.
He's very big and tall and scary.
And then, you know, later in his career, he's always in a wheelchair.
Okay.
Ironsides is better than his first nickname that he had, which was just spokes. That was so casual.
What up, folks? Yeah.
Spokie, I got a baseball card for you.
Ellery, what movie would you like to recommend?
I've been watching all the Fairly Brother movies, and today I watched
Kingpin, which is like was frankly a batshit, insane bowling movie with Woody Harrelson and Bill Murray.
And it was kind of all over the place.
You see, you know, people when they pitch it are asked, why you, why now?
And this is a movie that has nothing to do with anything and is almost about nothing.
So far, I can start to finish.
It's a really odd one. So yeah, it's hard to finish. It's a it's a really it's a really
odd one. And it's so strange. So beloved, though, when you bring it up to somebody who loves
it. They really love it. And it might have been the strangest movie I've seen all year.
Yeah, well, I mean, how many more Fairly brother movies do you have to go? I think I only have two left two or three left because they all sort of have that like
They don't really follow the typical three act structure
They all just sort of like this happens for a while then that goes off in this direction
Oh now how are them Williams is a serial killer like it just has random things happen in their movies
But yeah that Kingpin is definitely one of the most random like if the trailer didn't show bill murray bowling
you know, it could easily cut together a trailer that's just
Uh bowling or that bowling factors in that much, you know, but then it's also like about the amish for 20 minutes
It's a really yeah. Yeah, it's a real real armish leaning thing for a bit and then then next thing
You know, it's a bowling movie and Bill Murray
Has the craziest hair ever. Yeah. Yeah, which is you know
Their hair they should just play a character that just really really does not know how to deal with it and combs it so weirdly
Okay really does not know how to deal with it and combs it so weirdly. Okay, also gross out comedy too, of course, was there a part of their thing. So it's interesting to me that you are, you know,
checking out their entire oeuvre. I'm kind of, I'm kind of liking it. It feels very rambling. And
then when it's shocking and disgusting, I'm liking that too.
Just very, kind of very like light and inspired.
Ha ha.
Ha ha.
Ha ha.
All right, Joe, what would you like to recommend?
And do not say American comics starring Joe.
Ha ha.
Well, I had a few more things I wanted to mention
about that particular film.
Yeah, it's a good chance to bring it up again.
Ha ha. You know, I actually don't know if,
how and where people could see it.
It's a movie I saw at the Alamo draft house
a month or two ago,
but it was called Secret Mall Apartment.
And it's a documentary about this group of artists
in Providence, Rhode Island in the early to mid 2000s who
decide to kind of create an art project where they live in this new mall. They find an area of this
huge mall that the community kind of hates for destroying their town and they find out that there's an area where they can set up shop and they wind up living there for
Living, you know spending time. It's kind of home base for them for a no
Yeah, it's come up on the show before
And also I think doesn't Jesse Eisenberg have something to do with it or he produced it
Yeah, he's a producer of it. And so I've seen him like on talk shows discussing it and it just sounds
It sounds really really interesting
You know a great thing to make a
Documentary about we're like there, you know, they're in there from the start
I assume I assume it tells the the whole story which you know, what a dumb documentary
It's like, you know, they lived in there for a day or two and then got kicked out
Yeah, not quite not quite as exciting. But yeah, really
What's really amazing is that these folks?
chose to
Record everything as they were doing. Yeah
So there's there's so much first-hand footage of how they snuck in every time and the
close calls of getting caught and what they were doing in
their in their secret mall apartment. It was really, really
fascinating to watch.
At, you know, a very large percentage of them something
interesting happens because if you're out there shooting a
documentary, you don't get anything interesting, then no one's going to distribute it or want to having to do with it. large percentage of them, something interesting happens. Because if you're out there shooting a documentary
and you don't get anything interesting,
then no one's gonna distribute it
or wanna have anything to do with it.
You know what I mean?
The fact that, regular movies can be garbage,
but they're finished, so they get released,
and then people give them bad reviews.
But a garbage documentary is hard to find,
unless you fundamentally disagree with some premise
in the documentary, you know what I mean?
For the most part, if a documentary is being made,
or if it's finished, then somebody thought,
oh, there's a complete story here to tell.
Unless it's about a famous person.
And then in that case, they could sell it
based on the name alone and it might be dog shit.
Yeah, no, I agree that like just biographical documentaries
are like tend to not be, you know,
then it might as well just be a TV special
or I don't know what, but you know.
Except for the amazing Jonathan documentary, which rocked.
Well, there we go.
There's two of those.
That's the thing.
There's three.
There's like seven at the end of that movie.
The one where.
The meta one. Yeah, the meta one where he's making seven at the end of that movie. Which one are you talking about? Which one? The one where...
The meta one.
Yeah, the meta one where he's making the documentary
and then the other two, not to spoil it,
the other two documentarians find out
that he hired like three different production teams
and they each don't know about each other.
Yeah, it becomes about the process of making this
and the many failed attempts to make a film like this
and then it kind of turns in on itself it is it's really interesting so what's
that one called the amazing and then it wasn't that one of those competing ones
wasn't that direct I want to say it's directed by a comedian Steve Byrne yeah
Steve Byrne is not the one you wanna you want to say
I'll respect I'll respect to Steve but he is his was his production is kind of the villain of the other
documentary Wow
Yeah, he's called the not so amazing Jonathan. He was pissed about it. Oh my goodness
All right, well that's a bonus recommendation if you want to seek that out and yeah secret mall apartment
I don't know where it is or if it is
Yeah, just something for people to to look out for but at least in the meantime
these classics kingpin and rear window are also
Highly recommended he now six on equal footing with two movies.
On equal footing, absolutely.
Yeah, now I'd like to recommend these commercials.
They're great, we'll be right back.
We are back and the first game we're gonna play today
is called Netflix and Chill.
You're gonna see why it's called net
Flicks and chill in a moment. Here's how it works. I'll say a funnish fact
Or just a thing, you know a statistic about a movie and then you have to tell me if that's about the movie
network from 1976 the social network from 2010,
or Tanet from 2020.
Oh boy.
A lot of people mispronounce Tanet and I'm here to tell you.
Oh my God. I just realized you meant Tenet.
Yeah.
I've never heard of that movie before.
Tenet, huh? Tenet. I thought it was like somebody like Cambodia or something. I just realized you meant tenant. Yeah Tenets
Cambodia or something. I had no idea what you're talking about. Yeah. Well when tenet was out
In my head and maybe even sometimes with my mouth I just put an extra n in there and and
Tenet, you know, but no it's tenet and
So, of course it fits perfectly into this game
which features net
flicks now
I'll go to
Dan first if he misses and Ellery gets a shot
Valerie misses Joe gets a crack at it and then and so on and the first to two points wins Dan. Are you ready? Yes
Okay
I'll give you the options again network social network or tenant
Okay, it's two hours the listed running time is two hours
Two hours I'm gonna go social network.
You think the social network is exactly two hours long?
Yeah, the first half's about my space. The second half's about
Facebook. What our free? Yeah, exactly. That's yeah.
So no, I don't think it's I think that one's like two and a half hours.
I think actually it's the 1970s.
Wait, you're changing your answer?
Can I do that?
Well, I sort of prompted you to, but you do whatever you want.
Now I feel like I should.
I'll I'll stick with the original incorrect answer, I think.
See, that's why I don't like to meddle, because I just want you to just commit to something
and not feel bad about it when you're wrong.
I'm a people-pleaser, Doug.
All right.
So social networks your final answer?
Yeah, it's wrong, though.
No, it's correct.
It was just so exciting that you were so easily talked out of it.
And then I felt guilty. But yeah, Tenet is two hours and 30 minutes long and Network is two hours and one minute long.
So of those three social networks, the one that's two hours long, Dan's on the board with one point now Ellery is up
Which one of those three was nominated for the most Oscars?
Nominated for the most Oscars
Tenet
My gut says social network, but I don't think that you would pick two answers that are the
same back to back.
Oh, that's an interesting approach.
Do you think?
I mean, isn't that how you take like fill in the blank tests?
That's how some people try to do it, but.
I try to choose the correct answer, Ellery.
That's the way to go, I think I try to choose the correct answer
Test taking I'm gonna guess tenant actually you're going to take at the most Oscar nominations. Oh
Yeah, just rip it
Sure incorrect
Ripped it right off. Joe?
Okay, so I'm thinking this is a movie
that's got two nominated lead performances,
William Holden and Peter Finch.
Actually, I shouldn't go into too many details
about the movie Network,
because that might be giving away some things
for questions later.
So I'm just gonna say I believe Network
had quite a few Oscar nominations,
including Best Picture and Director and writing and many acting nods.
So I'm going to go with Network.
That is the correct answer. Network got 10 nominations, four wins.
One of those wins was for best supporting actress.
Beatrice Strait is in one scene of the movie that is like three or four
minutes long and she won best supporting actress. It was pretty intense
work on her part. Probably also took her like a day. Social Network got eight
nominations so you weren't that wrong. I mean whoever did Ellery mention Social
Network? That was gonna be my first guess. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that being pretty well,
well, yeah, it got a one three. But then that's why my voice probably scared you
when you were talking about 10 it because it only got two nominations and
one win. So now Joe is on the board. But now we're back to Dan. This is for the win if you can get this Dan
Which of those three films has the highest critics score on rotten tomatoes
Mmm, I
Never saw tenant but I heard like a bunch of like movie dorks really really liked it, but the general public didn't
So I'm gonna go with tenant
Got the highest critic score on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah
Inferred damn. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure
I'm gonna guess
Question to ask me though, cuz I am wrong
So it's not a bad idea to follow up. But what's your guess Ellery? I'm gonna guess social network. That's not a bad question to ask me though, because I am wrong sometimes.
So it's not a bad idea to follow up. But what's your guess, Ellery?
I'm gonna guess the social network.
That is correct.
Dang.
That got the best.
It's got 96% on Rotten Tomatoes.
And Tenet just has 70.
So you were right about that part of it, Dan,
that it wasn't that well received,
because it got an even lower number from,
well, I'm not sure. And then network got 91%. But also network is probably only formally,
they probably have like 20 formal reviews, because there was no internet and all that shit,
and all the, all the people. I swear, there's people that get to you know have their reviews quoted
rotten tomatoes they're like you know just writing writing or you know podcast
and just doing some made-up's going on with the Daily Steve today?
I liked him better when he was the Weekly Steve.
Now he's too in our face.
After I do Werdell, I go right to the Daily Steve.
Yeah, he's overexposed.
Oh my god. Okay, so...
Forced a three-way tie and
Joe gets to go first though, so it's his to lose. Oh, wow
Yeah, this is for the win and speaking of for the win rest in peace after midnight
That CBS late-night shows its final episode airs
At the same time that this episode of Douglas movies comes out so
Make your choices wisely. I guess we get the last laugh, huh?
Speaking of for the win also our IPIP to Brian Wilson. Oh my God.
For the win.
Yeah, super competitive guy.
Mike Love can rot in hell.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I don't know why,
ever since I saw that movie, Love and Mercy,
that really opened up my eyes to,
I always knew like,
That really opened up my eyes to like I always knew like
Speak about when it comes to Mike love, you know But then to see it depicted in a movie where he was just such a shithead to his brother who's actually brilliant
Is that why you don't like him Hillary? Yeah. Okay good. Make sure we had the same reason. I might have some crazy
juicy gossip. Well, or maybe, you know, in this climate, maybe he's, you know, seriously conservative
or something. He is. He is. He's very publicly an asshole and also is friends with Trump and
okay, there's a lot of footage of Michael of being very out of pocket. Okay. All right
And he's like he's known for like with a with the best band member Brian having schizophrenia
He has been known for like to be the least enjoyable to be around. So like that's like that first
Yeah, I
Just that's the song I posted a picture of Brian with this song God only knows because that was another thing
I learned from that move
It's that song and it's like it's the perfect pop song especially with their dumbass harmonies
Yeah, the actual the live version of love and mercy is one of my favorite songs in the world. It's so good.
Alright.
Does anybody have anything to say about Sly Stone?
Yeah.
Also a genius.
I did not see that Questlove documentary, but I'm very interested.
I am going to, for sure, because I already loved his the summer of love documentary him so her soul that
Crestlove did and that had a huge chunk of you know that had a lot of sliced stone in it and him and his band
were amazing
like
For at that time to have his diverse a band as he had like you had a woman on trumpet
There was like what and yeah that guy very interesting and also sad story
So I I'm definitely gonna check out that documentary
We have finished this stupid game. Oh, right
Anybody else die recently
No, somebody posted you know about how you know, they people Notable people die in threes and now we lost, you know sly and Brian Wilson this week
Who's gonna be the third and I responded I can't say it out loud then my wish won't come true
So make of that way you will okay, so
Joe you get this one. Yes, which one of those three films do you think got the highest score?
from the audience on
Rotten Tomatoes not the pointy-toity critics with the audience. Oh
I'm gonna say it is also the social network
incorrect Dan
Gonna go
Network that is correct. Yeah, sort of gave it away earlier by sitting on tenet so much but
Tenet only got 76 from the audience
It did even better with critics
or no, it did better with audiences, but only by six points and
social network on 87% and
straight-up network 93% on the audience score which is probably a lot of a lot
of people have probably voted on on that and it is that's another movie that if
you've you know feel like seeing how how the future was predicted by by the
writer of that movie.
There's things that happen in that movie
that at the time people were like,
oh, that's crazy, that's never gonna happen on TV.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Like the Simpsons predictions.
Exactly, very much so.
All right, so Dan won that game.
We're gonna find out what he wins after the break.
We'll be right back.
We are back and Dan, congratulations. You get to go first in our last game.
Games are always about, you know, just warming up and having
some fun.
But now we're getting into what some called the nitty-gritty,
but I don't I don't like that expression.
This is a game that I call cruise or lose
Because because of the recent release of mission impossible eight
Rotten tomatoes decided to rank all
44 Tom Cruise
all 44 Tom Cruise
Starring and co-starring movies based on the critics score, so I wrote down the bottom
10 Tom Cruise movies the bottom bottom 10 so the three of you will take turns guessing what you think
Are TC's you know a movie that would be in his bottom ten, and the lower it is
on the list, the more points you get.
So like if it's the number one worst reviewed Tom Cruise movie, it is worth five points.
I mean, excuse me, one.
It's a little different this time, but
One point is what I meant to say, but there's
You'll see
Cut that part out right?
Okay, I do podcasts with people all the time where the host will just say cut that part out and you know to the
producer person and I just never do that like in the moment and
We oftentimes if I do do it
Do do if I do it we leave it in any way
Does those instructions make sense
Yeah, that means Dan will be up first and then we flip the order around so we'll go Dan Joe
Ellery you'll each get three guests as total.
And so, you know, maybe something will come to you
a little later and be triggered by one of
somebody else's answers.
But let's start with you, Dan.
Please name what you think.
You know, go for number one.
What do you think is the worst reviewed Tom Cruise movie?
This is really tough.
Because of the overall quality of his work?
Well, I only remember the good ones.
Oh, what was that?
He was an immune rock of ages.
That movie sucked.
It's a good guess.
Wait, you're saying that the movie where Tom Cruise learned to play
guitar and sing and had a long haired wig on and had a insisted
that his best friend be a monkey that you don't think that turned out?
That's actually Mission Impossible 9.
They're gonna run it back.
And so surprisingly, I don't think that for some reason
that movie didn't work out.
Yeah, all right, so that's your answer?
Yeah.
All right, Rock of Ages is on the list.
And here's where it gets tricky
is there's a couple of ties on the list and this is one of them
It's tied with another movie and then so they'd be numbers like seven and eight
So I just split the difference and so you get one point five points for getting the one half of that
Tie, okay. Let's go to Joe. What's your first guess Joe? I think I am going to go with
the movie Lions for Lambs, which was Robert Redford. You don't live like Dan does because
Dan forgets the bad ones. But you clearly, because this movie was insanely forgettable.
Yes, but it had a huge pedigree.
It was Robert Redford directed it and Meryl Streep is in it, but it was like a huge dud.
Yeah, or just I don't even know if it's necessarily a bad movie, but nobody cared.
And he certainly doesn't like he's not a lawyer who like runs down the street like in the firm
It's number four on the list
Of his worst movies with a 28% score on
Rotten tomatoes and that's worth seven points for you Wow here today Joe
So at least that movie's failure worked out for somebody. Thank God.
Ellery, what are you thinking?
I'm gonna guess vanilla sky.
Vanilla
sky.
Interesting. Did you see it? And I remember really not liking it.
So maybe that's just why. I feel like it's a real swing and a miss like, you know Tom Cruise
You know, he really does I think pick roles to try to you know, get awards and stuff, you know
Like when he's in a drama
No, he's disfigured in that movie so that's always like okay, he's really trying to
He's disfigured in that movie. So that's always like, okay, he's really trying to
You know, I'm just not gonna be handsome in this movie. So I'm gonna show them I can really act by not even being handsome. So he's disfigured. He wears a mask during a lot of it and
Yeah, it's I I don't care for it. That's another one of those movies that does have its supporters
Really? Yeah, it got 42%
Unwrought and tomatoes which lands in at number nine
on the list. That's the impressive thing about Tom Cruise is of the list of 10 movies, like
it gets pretty high, it gets almost to fresh, you know, like pretty quickly. He's got a lot that did well with critics. All right, so that's worth two points for Ellery. Good job
Now we go back to dan who said some more time to think about this
Yeah
So i've been i'm channeling when I used to work at family video
I did both these movies came in around the same time when I worked there
So give us uh, you, pick one of them.
The movie Oblivion.
Oblivion?
Good guess.
I was thinking of that one too.
Cool concept, bad movie.
Yeah, but it's like, what is with these actors, Brad Pitt,
there's more, but they wanna, you know, Sam Rockwell, they wanna be in these movies where they like go
into space and they're alone during huge swaths
of the movie, oh, Ryan Gosling.
Like they all have, they all wanna be astronauts
for some reason.
And then when you're watching an astronaut movie,
they always are, you know, floating and moving
and really slow, like they just, so hard to build up any excitement. Like I think gravity is one of
the few, you know, someone in space that's in trouble movies that I think is really gripping
and exciting.
Everybody wants their 2001 space odyssey moment, I guess it's just I mean it's just
Space I'm just like I'm good down. Yeah. Yeah, I have no interest in space I don't even trust the ocean like fuck the sky. I'm not interested the space of the ground
So yeah, so it's so Tom's run and also a lot of these one person things or two people that are alone somewhere
There's always somebody else shows up at some point, you know, like
To spoil it. Okay, so
Oblivion didn't make the list. That's my long way of saying that it is not in the bottom 10. So it must have gotten
52 percent or higher on the
Rotten tomato, so nice try Dan You're still not out of this though
Okay, let's see how many more points Joe can add with another
Tom Cruise guess I'm gonna go with a classic dud and go with cocktail
Cocktail is to me the perfect bad movie because
Awful yes, you know it doesn't it never gets boring because you're always like what what is happening now?
Why is this happening? You must have done that for the movie interruption, right? Yes
Interrupted interrupted it more than once.
It's like, you know, it's just absolutely in the pantheon,
you know, with like Roadhouse, you know,
like just perfect like to watch them over and over again,
because it's so entertaining on its own terms,
but then also terrible, it's wild.
Number one on the list. Wow. Yeah. Terms but then also terrible. It's wild number one
Wow
Good guess thank you. Yeah, that was a really good pull
Cocktail is that nine percent
From the critics did not care for it. Yeah
It's almost we're're almost reaching alcohol level content.
It's got everything.
Versus Rotten Tomato.
It's got so.
But it's all treated like it's a rom-com.
Oh, speaking of Mike Love,
you get to hear the worst Beach Boys song
in the history of their existence.
Kokomo?
Yeah.
I think I might be a Kokomo defender.
Oh, you would be.
People have shit on it for so long, it's fine.
We were poor growing up, we had like nine VHSs and three of them had...
John Stamos and the Beach Boys?
Yes, yeah.
Yes, 100%.
They had a trailer with the Kokomo song on it,
and I have loved that song since I was like seven years old
just because it was on the movie Anastasia's trailer
on VHS.
It was?
Yeah.
The Russian story from Disney?
That was the VHS, and there was a trailer
that had that song.
Wait.
That's a crazy way to cut that trailer.
But wait, it wasn't for the movie Anastasia.
No, no, no, it was just on the VHS.
It was on the Anastasia VHS, yeah.
Oh, I was like.
It would be the most misguided like,
such a strange choice.
Yeah, so I was like, here's the opposite of the movie.
I don't like list songs.
I don't like any song where the lyricist is just like,
as long as we just name a bunch of things
that fit into this category.
You hate Mambo Number Five.
Oh my God, it's the worst.
Do they say Karen in Mambo Number Five?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think they do, but they get a lot of names in there.
Little bit of Angela.
Yeah, Monica, et cetera. Yeah, it's too bad Karen of names in there a little bit of Angela. Yeah
Yeah, it's too bad Karen's not in there cuz you know Karen's need a break
They need to be in a fun song. Yeah, who's gonna turn things around for the Karen ship?
I know some perfectly nice Karen's like how well why do they have to get saddled with?
this the universal word for
shitty shitty person. All right, Ellery. I'm gonna guess that what's that movie with Brooke Shields that he's in? Endless.
Well, here's the thing. I think this is only fair. He has like one of his first movie appearances. He has like two lines in Endless Love with Brooke Shields.
Doesn't count. Okay.
He's not like the guy in it.
Oh wait, that's actually a good-
Another actor is the romantic lead.
Question. So by Tom Cruise movie, is it like, it's a movie where he's one of the main, it's not like a bit part?
Well, he can be, he can have a smaller role in it, but he just didn't do
that very often. He didn't do it very often. And this one was literally like just two lines
or something. So, OK, let me guess. They didn't rank it, but tomatoes overlooked it. Basically,
let me guess the mummy. The mummy is number two on the list. Nice. Dang, it was going to be my guest.
Excellent pivot.
But I remember that being well received by audience, right?
Or like maybe only after?
No?
No.
I don't think so.
I feel like people watch it.
No, well, I mean maybe on the streaming.
They nuked the whole, yeah, they were
going to do a whole universe, the kind
of universal monsters universe, and basically
on the back of that movie.
Like, Invisible Man really worked out pretty nicely,
and then Mummy was awful, and then now they had this Wolfman movie
that, you know, sort of petered out.
So, like, the Universal Monsters thing is not really happening
like they hoped it would.
But 15% from the critics for the Mummy. So I bet the public is not a whole
lot more. Maybe it's a little more generous like 40 or 50 or something. But I don't remember talking
to anybody who liked it. Especially if you like the first Mummy because it's the perfect that kind
of movie. Like it was like the sort of like the not a knockoff of Raiders of the Lost Ark
But certainly took advantage of you know being able to be a movie that style
And you know, but they did it so well that like
That's another thing about it is Tom Cruise remaking it just making it more
Aggro was just like that's what that the mummy for me and a lot of people my age was our bisexual awakening and
Tom Cruise's version made a lot of us go back into the closet
It's fine
You know that's what I'm not even sure if I if I bother to see it like you should bother to see it my friend
It's good
What it's good
Tom Cruise mummy is good. Oh, no. No, I thought you're talking about the regular mummy. I was gonna say mummy
I was just saying I was just complimenting regular money. It's it's a classic
So like to remake it and take out the charm was see kind of a weird move
All right
So Ellery's like
Opposing a little threat here to Joe
It's very exciting. But you know Dan
Dan's here
Dan is also present. Yeah, I can't say that he has much of a chance
zero chance really but
Still be excited to see if he picks off a movie takes it away from the other players
so I'm channeling my inner Jeff Tate for this one.
Okay.
Jack Reacher.
It's got to be one of the sequels.
So never go back.
Never haven't gone.
What's it called?
Never having gone.
You're supposed to tell me what it's called, but I'll give it to you because just the fact
that you even had your first guess was right is pretty amazing.
I think they only made two Jack Reacher movies in total, and the second one has no number.
It's just Jack Reacher colon never go back.
And is number six on the list. and Now we go back to Joe, this is your chance to really solidify your lead here. Yes.
Keep Ellery.
You know, I recall a movie that I felt like it was going to maybe be something
and then it was a huge disappointment.
So that might put it on the list here.
And it was a film called Valkyrie.
I saw that.
Oh, yeah. I wanted it to be so good and it just wasn film called Valkyrie. I saw that. Oh yeah.
I wanted it to be so good and it just wasn't.
Yeah.
People were really excited.
You know, it was Bryan Singer coming off of his kind of hot streak and Tom Cruise was
still, you know, a thing.
Yeah.
And who doesn't want to see the depiction of trying to kill Hitler?
But the trouble, amongst other things,
but the main trouble for me was that,
since Tom Cruise wasn't really accent guy,
he just has an American accent for no reason.
And then they do the thing that lots of old movies
and even today, they they're just like well
for every other character they'll just have British accents that should be
enough
yeah that's that's how I recall it went down but you know I could be wrong I
think that's what happened the best one is when in hunt for red October
They like are speaking in Russian and then the camera goes
Like okay from now on it's just gonna be in English. I respect that. Yeah, I totally close up on the lips. Yeah, exactly
Goddess Russian is like oh good. I didn't have to know Russian for an entire movie
Okay What was the guess Valkyrie? Oh, right
Valkyrie
Is a squeaker it must be like close to the bottom ten because I don't think critics loved it
But maybe they didn't hate it as much as they did in in in my mind
So no more points for Joe,
but might not need those points, Joe,
because you're at 17 points.
Ellery's got 11.
So for Ellery to tie,
third lowest reviewed Tom Cruise movie
or the fifth lowest reviewed,
both of those would get you, fifth lowest would get you in a tie situation and
Third lowest give you the win
Mmm think of another one
Yes, I'm gonna guess that Cameron Diaz movie he was in
Or I guess they were in together, um, they should have called it that it probably would have made more money
I mean, I think it would have made more money people love her. Uh, I say it's here or there
What the title here there is the title? No, I'm just saying. Oh, it's neither as an example
It's neither here. They're just sure. I think it's I
Not far and away
Vanilla Sky too
That's it that's the title you're looking for
But unfortunately it came in that's tied for number 10
on the list along with
The four mentioned far and away
along with the aforementioned far and away.
So that's worth.5 points. It leaves you with 11.5.
That means that Joe Quazzala is our winner today.
Congratulations, Joe.
You did it.
That means you get to do your plugs first.
What would you like to plug?
Well, you know, I don't know if you guys have heard about this,
but I have a movie coming out
If you have people want to go check it out it's again at the Chinese Theatre Sunday, June 29th
Yeah, we shot it real stand-up shows. Like I said, and it's a it's about how
Stand-ups, you know try to push the narrative that they're modern-day philosophers But most of them are
illiterate maniacs who are fueled by the desperate need for attention
a romp there it is and then and then somehow doug benson figures into that
i said i know just the guy
about it just because uh you know i don't want to give away what what I am you know
who I am or what I'm keep that in the dark I don't want to reveal my story
line in the movie but I am very excited to be portraying a profession that I've
witnessed my entire career but you know I am NOT that right you are the rare
performer in this who's a comic who isn't playing a comic.
You play a very special other role
that is key to the narrative.
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
So thank you for that.
And Ellery Smith, what would you like to promote?
I'm doing a cracked comedy taping
this Saturday at West Side at 9 p.m.
So come out, it's a great lineup.
It's like me, Martin Urbano, Kara Klank,
a bunch of other really hilarious people.
It's their first taping in LA, so come check it out.
What do you mean by taping?
They're like, they do tapings in New York,
so they like tape a bunch of standup sets
and what they do with them afterwards, I actually don't know.
But they'll be taping them.
They're going to tape your set?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, I think they're doing sort of like a don't tell thing.
Yeah, where they're just getting sets probably for digital content.
Right.
Yeah.
Then they just put up clips and then maybe give you the material so you can post it if
you want.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, that's cool.
Dan Seabree, what's going on, dude?
My debut comedy special,
Unfinished Business comes out on YouTube June 22nd.
Nice.
What is it?
It was about an hour long?
It's gonna be like 40 minutes long.
Oh, I love it.
I love it. I'm so tired of of everything that specials having to be an hour
I've honestly been talking to my buddy and I think I'm just gonna do like from now on just like 30 minute
Specials 25 minute specials because there's no point to do like no one's got the attention span and like don't tell those half hours
Comedy Central used to do half hours
HBO
Yeah, you don't have to drag shit.
You know, like, there's something about...
You know, like, that's why, like, crowd work exists.
Like, if I'm doing, like, a headliner set,
I mean, you know, I got, like, 45 minutes of material,
but if I'm, you know, if they want me to do a whole hour,
it's gonna be 15 minutes of fucking around.
And then, you know, that's not a good special, you know?
No, I don't think I even say in the special. I just do I have no themes
I have no segues. I have no I try to teach you lessons
I'm doing a bunch of jokes in a row till I'm done
Yeah
If a bit's over and you got something else to do stop it come back later. Yeah. Yeah pick up where you left off
I'll be on a new subject. Exactly. I'm not pushing the boundaries of the art.
I'm just good at it. So that's like, that's all I'm trying to do.
No one woman shows here. No, not yet.
Not yet. Not until Ira Glass gets his hands on you.
That was so loud.
Is that still a thing that can happen?
Great question.
I were glass like plucking.
You know, I think you need to stay vigilant just in case.
Yeah, I mean, he's a cutie.
He can pluck me whenever he wants.
He is a cutie.
I would sign that.
I'm going to be doing Douglas movies in Tacoma, He is a cutie. I would co-sign that.
I'm gonna be doing Douglas Movies in Tacoma, Washington with three of everybody's favorite guests,
Jeff Tate, Sean Jordan, and Monica Nevy.
That's June 28th at the Tacoma Comedy Club
in Tacoma, Washington.
And I'll be back in Los Angeles
doing another Benson movie interruption
at Dynasty Typewriter on Tuesday, July 1st, douglasmovies.com.
So there all my dates and dates and links are.
Thank you so much to the three of you, Ellery Smith, Joe Quazzalla, and Dan Seabree. I close every episode with a movie that's streaming right now on, I forget
which one it's on, I want to say Hulu. It's called Summer of 69, stars Chloe Feynman,
it's directed by Jillian, it's Jillian Bell's directorial debut, I believe.
But anyway, check it out if you want to see a fun movie.
Somebody on the social suggested that I say the last line from it, so here it is. As always,
I made a friend.