Doug Loves Movies - Jordan Vogt-Roberts, Scroobius Pip and Joe DeRosa guest

Episode Date: March 7, 2017

Live from the NerdMelt Showroom in LA, Doug welcomes Jordan Vogt-Roberts, Scroobius Pip and Joe DeRosa to the show. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. My name is Doug, and I love crickets. This is Doug Loves Crickets. I like a crowd that can adjust. Coming to you once again from the cricket-infested Nerd Melt showroom

at Meltdown Comics in Los Angeles. It's Monday, March 6th, and I just survived the 311 cruise and I want to be rewarded with some unique name tags. So come original. Oh, looky. We got some good ones. We got, is your name Nick? The Nickler instead of the wrestler,

and you have a wrestling belt. Yeah, so congratulations on that. Instead of the wrestler and you have a wrestling belt. Yeah, so congratulations on that. What is that? Just Pirate Justin? That's right. Instead of pirate what? Pirate radio? That's right.

Okay. Puns don't get more clever than that. I'm glad I figured it out. Spencer than fiction. I understand that one. What's the Space Jam one? Grace Jam. Christian?

Wait, Chris Jam? Grace Jam. Grace Jam. Oh, okay. I liked how you had to look at it to figure out what it said on it. What's this Hateful Eight one? What's that?

Hateful Kate. Hateful Kate. Okay. The old man? And the Chelsea. And the Chelsea. Oh, I saw that mommy dearest one on the internet today. Good job.

Jess becomes her. Lots of good name tags tonight. Thank you for bringing those, you guys. And good luck to each and every one of you. Doug plugs. The High Court on Comedy Central continues at midnight after at midnight.

I know, it's not confusing at all. And just for this week, for one week only, they're rerunning episodes of The High Court on Comedy Central at 4.20 in the afternoon. If you want to, afternoon. If you want to

yeah, if you want to enjoy that. The next Getting Doug With High is on my YouTube channel tomorrow night at 8.15 Pacific time. That's Tuesday, March 7th. And you can also see me

tomorrow night on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Yeah. Excited to be doing that. And what? Are you going to smoke? Am I going to smoke? What do you mean? On Jimmy Kimmel Live?

I don't think they'll let me do that on Disney-owned ABC, but... But we'll certainly talk about how high I like to get, and I'll be high if that helps you. And also, if you mean outside after this show, the answer is yes. So, see you out back, maybe. Austin, Texas, I'll be doing a show, a couple of shows, a couple of Doug Loves movies at South by Southwest for all the fancy badge holders. But locals can come to Cap City this Thursday night

at 8 o'clock for a Doug Loves Movies South by Southwest kickoff show, I guess we could call it. I guess. All of my dates and deets are at DougLovesMovies.com That's

DougLovesMovies.com That was pretty good. That's... DougPostMovies.com That was pretty good. Some of you may have noticed that I tweeted about a special surprise happening here tonight. We had some guesses. Some people guessed that Owner and Ann would be back. To which I responded, never! How much of a glutton

for punishment would I need to be to be like, yeah, let's try that again. It was just an off night for them. They totally know how to be normal. So yeah, so that's not It was just an off night for them. They totally know how to be normal. So yeah, so that's not it. And other people have said,

oh, finally, Emile Hirsch. Let go of the Emile Hirsch thing. It's never gonna happen, and it's more on his end than mine. I don't think he wants to come on a show where comedians might challenge his public behavior that he's having some issues with. If you don't know about it,

Google it. But you may have noticed this evening and you may have been told directly already, which kind of spoils the surprise if you're here in the audience, but there's a WWE art show here at

Nerd Meltdown Comics that, as you can see, there's art all over the walls that's wrestling related. There's a beautiful Hulkamania that has Mr. T on it. So I don't get what's going on there.

Shouldn't it be T-mania? But, you know, you get the idea. And they had a big opening tonight, and Loot Crate was involved, and our friends at Loot Crate have offered, and many of you here tonight will be leaving with your own free Loot Crate have offered and many of you here tonight will be leaving with your own free Loot Crate this evening. Others will have to go through a series of steps because we've just got about 80 loot crates on the premises tonight,

and about 125 people showed up. So thank you for coming, and I hope that this special surprise isn't too aggravating to you, that you'll have to, as you're leaving tonight, if you don't actually physically get a crate, we will get your email and address, and then they will send you one, if you're willing to give us that information. Because we're going to use it for a lot of things.

But anyway, thank you to Loot Crate and to Meltdown and WWE and everybody involved in trying to make this happen. I hope you enjoy your Loot Crates. Hey, I sent my nudes. What's that? I sent my nudes. I sent my nudes. What about, do you keep saying something about nudes?

I sent them to you. What? For the Loot Crate. The Loot Crate, what about it? I sent my nudes. crate, what about it? The what? Is what nudes? He'll send You'll send me nudes

Well I will send you from this theater If you If you keep being that I'm gonna yell out stuff that doesn't make any fucking sense person. So please stop being that person.

He stopped right away. I thought there'd be one more response. I was right. my instincts were correct what was that he said thank you okay well that's very apparent that you love me and people that love people often don't know how to show it. One great way is to just shut the fuck up for the rest of this show. Let's look in the prize bag. I brought a Doug Loves Movies t-shirt.

And as I mentioned, I was on the 311 cruise. So somebody made a koozie that says Ahoy Fuckers on it. I got many wristbands from nice people on the cruise to say various things about the cities they live in and stuff. So I'll be spreading the love with those. And also a Peacemaker pipe. And I was recently on At Midnight Again, so somebody's going to get a box of Delush's cookies.

Yeah, they were in my home, and I didn't eat any of them. That is some serious willpower. A copy of my most recent CD. I didn't do a CD this year, but last year's CD. You can still get one of those. Oh, this is fun. A guy on the cruise gave me a button that's a picture of his dog

wearing his umbrella. I got doubles on that one, so... So I'm giving you guys one. And also, kind of exciting, I'm friendly with Mr. Cheech Marin, which is an exciting thing that happened to me in my life. And he has a new book out called Cheech Is Not My Real

Name, But Don't Call Me Chong. And on the cover of it, he's using a mallet, a stick, to break a Cheech pinata. And the Cheech pinata is busting open and candy's flying everywhere.

But I'm on the very back of the book. They've got... This is the people they got to say nice things about Cheech for his back of the book cover. Anderson Cooper. George Lopez.

Filmmaker Robert Rodriguez. John Lasseter from Pixar. And Doug Benson, comedian. I said Cheech Marin is one of the biggest influences on my comedy and my marijuana advocacy. Along with Snoop Dogg, Willie Nelson, and Tommy Chong, he is one of the faces I'd put on my Mount Cushmore. Whatever you do, do not smoke this book. So all of that's in the prize bag plus stuff brought by my

oh shit script is on the floor. Thank you so much. Are you a professional roadie? Because you were good at that. Just handed that right back to me. Please give a big warm welcome to Jordan

Vogt-Roberts, Joe DeRosa, and Scroobius Pip. All right. Hello. Hey, guys. That's worked out good. We got no beard in the middle. Yeah.

And then two very healthy beards on either end. I like that. Beard bookends, if you will. Trying to box you out. Let's meet everybody individually. First time guest on the show, Joe DeRosa is here, everybody. Hi. Hi. How are you all?

Very funny stand of comedian who made a recent appearance on Getting Doug With High. And I believe I pledged that very night. I'm going to have this guy on all of my podcasts. Oh, well, thank you. It's an honor to be here. When I was getting this tattoo on my left arm, the tattoo artist was listening to an episode of this many years ago. Oh, yeah? Yeah, and I was like, I'd like to be on that podcast one day, but I don't know Doug Benson. And then you had me on the high thing.

I freaked out a little bit. But I kept my shit together. And we went to Too Short that day, too. Yeah, we went and did Too Short's boom box. And I was grateful. I was happy that you came along, because you're a big fan of Too Short. You were able to talk to him about his work.

Yeah, but that was after he made me sit in the closet for a while. Yeah, it was really weird. Yeah, it was weird. They were kind of like, your white friend can sit in this closet over here. And you kept trying to leave, and I kept going, stick around! And then fortunately

you stayed long enough, because then they moved you out of the closet right into the show. Yes, yeah. Which is how the show business works i i feel like that was a big moment for our for our initial meeting and becoming friendly because because i did try to leave a lot of fucking times because it is weird when one of your heroes and rappers from birth is like go sit over there in that closet we don't want and i was really high and really drunk and i kept going like doug i'm freaking out i gotta get out of here and you were looking at me like like almost like a kid lost in the supermarket where you're just like don't don't go just please stay here why are you leaving me here how long were you in there how

long was this in the closet i mean the was open, but it was a good 45 minutes. It was a while. Yeah, it was just like if we were doing this podcast and somebody said, Joe, just go sit on the other side of that door over there in that room. And, you know, you could still see what was going on and hear what was going on. What did you do? They moved you up to the he didn't do anything wrong he was just it was just somewhere to put him because because

the too short boombox show he has like all these women sitting around on microphone that are just like hot ladies that i don't necessarily know what what the point is of all of them being there but but there wasn't any room for Joe. But then once they found out Joe was a big fan, he was suddenly front and center and I didn't have to talk anymore. He was very protective of those ladies too. Remember at the end after the show ended, I was talking to one of the girls

from the show by the door or whatever. Everything was nice. We were having a good time and then Doug and I were standing by the door talking to one of the girls from Too Short's crew of women. And that guy immediately came over and he's like, okay, guys, so that's it. And we'll take it easy.

We'll see you later. And they escorted us out. And I was like, oh, I guess we're not allowed. Wait, why are you confused about why they were protective? If you have hoes around, you don't want random dudes talking to your hoes. That's how it works. I don't use...

Especially the guy you tell to sit in the closet. They don't need no Joes from different area codes talking to their hoes. But thank you for being here tonight, and also, I noticed that you pinned a tweet on your Twitter page about how you're doing a monthly thing for Fangoria. Yeah, I was.

It's done already? No, yeah. Well, Fangoria's kind of in a weird, I don't know what's going on, but my editor left. But yeah, the article, the stories are still up there. I wrote a short,

I did a monthly short fiction horror sort of comedy thing for them. I did a story once a month. There's about nine stories up. So I did it monthly short fiction horror sort of comedy thing for them. I did a story once a month. There's about nine stories up. So I did it throughout last year. But thank you for mentioning that. Check it out. It's called Some Severe Situations.

If you Google that and my name, you'll find it. And I hope you like it. Yeah. Hope you don't think it's dog shit. But if you do, be sure to let him know. At Joe DeRosa. Yeah, tweet me. Nice dog shit.

Joining us for the second time on the program but the first time in the United States, it's Scroobius Pip, everybody. Hello.

in the United States. It's Scroobius Pip, everybody. Hello. It's nice to be out here. Yeah, what are you doing in California? I mean, I've been here less than 24 hours, so I'm not really sure. You haven't done anything yet. All of a sudden I'm on stage.

There's people. There's wrestlers on the wall for some reason. I don't know what's going on but yeah I'm just out to have it's LA I'm out to have

meetings and stuff genuinely I'm out to have meetings and stuff and I just said that out loud in front of people that's what I'm here for

just meetings you know LA LA stuff what am I gonna do at least you're not in the closet yeah true

true I know where you can find some hose So you get a lot of free waters At these meetings Have you had any meetings yet? No Because that's a big thing at meetings You get a free water

And they start tomorrow So I'll be sure not to To fill up There you go On water And take the water Take the water no matter what It's a sign of weakness

If you don't I'm just gonna Down it as soon as I walk in Just down it And slam it on the table stop now and you have a very popular podcast as well yes i do i have the distraction pieces podcast which yeah it's been going down well i've had loads of of actors and stuff on people like simon peg and nick frost and and yeah some good people those Those guys are nice. They're lovely. Yeah. They're wonderful.

I've kind of worked through all of their gang. I had Garth Jennings on and Paddy Considine who was in Hot Fuzz and a load of things. So I'm kind of, I'm working through their whole crew. And they're just, yeah, they're just a 60 to 90 minutes of rambling.

It's good fun. It works, honestly, they're just 60 to 90 minutes of rambling. It's good fun. It works, honestly, I swear. Okay. Yeah, I'm sure people will check it out if they haven't already. That time that I did this show over in London that you were on, we had a lovely time there as well. It was good fun. Yeah, it was really fun.

I did terrible. You did? Yeah, I didn't do very good. So you don't think you're going to do well tonight? Because these guys, I think they know their movie trivia a little bit. Well, I did terrible, but I brought a really good gift. And today I've got a shit gift, so I'm thinking. Oh, okay.

Hopefully going to smash it. Yeah. You know? That makes perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Trying to balance it out. All right.

And joining us for his, I think maybe second or third time on the show, something like that. It's like kind of one and a half because the other time we did it, it was like a thing for my movie. We did a thing for his movie

a few years back called Kings of Summer. Woo! And- Woo! You guys don't know what that is. Nobody saw that movie. No, it was a great movie.

And arguably the reason why you're now the director of Kong Skull Island in theaters. In theaters this Friday. Watch that shit. Watch it. It's super weird because when you're promoting an indie, you have to go out and be like, guys, just tell everyone, go and see the movie.

It makes a big difference. Tell your friends. And then I'm still here promoting a giant, like, hundred-plus-million-dollar movie, being like, guys, word of mouth, tell people. Like, you're worried that people aren't going to know about it, and there's a billboard on every fucking street. Yeah, have you noticed these giant monkeys all over town?

You have the same reaction. Like, guys, please, honestly, word of mouth, it matters. You've got to go see it this weekend. Well, that's we were talking backstage that, like, it's hard to foresee that, like, something like Logan would come out the week before and be so huge

and then therefore a threat. Yeah, well, we're sandwiched between Logan and Beauty and the Beast, so like... Get your money fast but it's just crazy but like in what world is like the giant monster movie

the like the underdog and that's just the world and in March too you know it's not like we're in May right now it's March it's like

we're already in giant monster season yeah no it's really it's all been pushed up to like the summer movies start real early. Yeah.

Real weird. Like February 10th. It's just going to be all year round from now. I think it was the first summer movie. Yeah. But you're happy with the finished, like, I know that the process was something you were kind of... you were kind of... I don't want to put words in your mouth,

but you did start growing a beard to commemorate the hell that is making this movie. Thanks, Doug. Appreciate it. Yeah, look at my face. I look like an idiot. It's a big... I'm super proud of it. It's fucking weird. It's super strange. I promise you it's not the movie that you would think it is.

Because my first reaction was like, why would you make a new King Kong movie? As most of you probably think. And most of the world probably thinks. And it's fucking nuts. To make it like it's if King Kong met Tropic Thunder? More like Apocalypse Now. Apocalypse Now?

You know there was a movie before Tropic Thunder called Apocalypse Now. They were like inspired by it. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure there was a little bit of inspiration there just a little bit uh yeah you make it weird and it's like it's honestly like it's a crazy like kaiju movie as much as it's like a king kong movie and it's it's i mean honestly you guys are gonna walk out of this movie and like john c riley alone is gonna blow your fucking brains open like everyone everyone knows who john c riley is and he's like he's a famous actor and comedian

but like you will walk out of this movie again and be like who the fuck is that guy like that's that's how good he is in this film it's very funny

that one trailer that ends with John C. Reilly going you guys we should be here this is not a good idea and he's like smiling and laughing

as he says it it's just like okay this is this is gonna be another fun performance from him and uh yeah I'm psyched about it go see it this weekend yeah this weekend you guys He's just like, okay, this is going to be another fun performance from him. And yeah, I'm psyched about it. But go see it this weekend.

Yeah, please. This weekend, you guys. My livelihood actually depends on you guys. And I promise you, you'll walk out of it and be like, oh, that's not what I... Look, honestly, how many of you, when you heard there's a new King Kong movie, raised your hands and were like, why would I go see a new King Kong movie? Yeah, a bunch of you. Exactly.

Exactly. And rightfully so. We have to tell the listeners, a bunch of you exactly exactly and right we have to tell the listeners a bunch of people and rightfully so like you're 100 allowed to think that and i promise you all those people that raise your hands go and see it this weekend and then tweet me or find me not at my house but somewhere um and don't send me nudes. Fucking weird. But, if you guys raise your hands, go see it this weekend and if you don't like it, I will pay you back.

Oh, that's what a deal. Make note that there was only like 10 people that raised their hands. Somebody just popped champagne. Free movie. So excited. I can't wait to hate this new movie.

Just that emergency champagne bottle. I really, I feel like such a fucking loser right now. No champagne. I directed the biggest movie of the year and I'm like, I write stories for the internet.

God damn it. Go see Joe's stories, everybody. Don't worry. Look at my face. I look like an idiot. You're fine. You were the guy in the closet and you still look cooler than me.

So when do you cut the beard off is it a new permanent thing I don't know now it's like the release date Friday honestly at first it started as like a playoff beard being like fuck it I got this and also I'm lazy as hell so like making a movie like this I deleted like

important childhood memories to like think about monkeys and shit and monsters. Cause my brain's like a hard drive. It only has so much space. You're like, well, God, I'm making room for something.

And, and then I just was like, well, I can't really handle shaving every day. And then this just started happening and now it's here. And it's like, fuck, because I've met so many people in the last year that if I shaved,

I'm going to have to reintroduce myself like do you know how much it sucks reintroducing yourself to someone that you know and you are friendly with like how terrible that makes you feel as a human being like hey doug it's me jordan you're like oh yeah vote roberts oh like it's the worst well also getting in and out of the country is probably gonna to be hard under this administration. But that's part of it. After this, I'm going to move to Asia for a little bit. And no one can have this beard there. But they can't grow facial hair like this here.

So I look like a fucking crazy person. You're just going there for fun? I mean, we shot part of the movie in Vietnam. And I fell in love with that place. It's the most beautiful, weird country on the planet, and the people. Japan, Korea, and Vietnam are all countries. This is really heavy, but they're all countries that have had horrific, terrible things happen in recent history. And so being in L.A. where everyone's like, I'm looking out for me.

I'm taking water meetings. You go to a country like that and people are like gracious and appreciative of life and like care about other human beings and then you get back

to LA and they're like have you seen my Instagram you know they let you talk to their hoes in Vietnam

yeah in Vietnam you could talk to them for a long time I hear you know but I just fell in love with the place and so I just want to You could talk to them for a long time, I hear. You know, I just fell in love with the place. And so I just want to like, I'm just going to go travel around Asia for a little bit. That's cool.

This has been two and a half years of my life. Yeah, it's huge. And so you don't have any other film projects planned or lined up or anything? No, I've got other things planned. And there's like a video game movie I want to do and some other stuff. But like, I want to go and just like live my life for a minute. Like, I've got other things planned. There's a video game movie I want to do and some other stuff, but I want to go and just live my life for a minute. I don't know. It's super easy in this business to be like,

I'm about my work. I'm about my work. And then you wake up and you're like, who are my friends? What do I do with my time? What's happening? I've just exited this crazy bubble where 24-7 I think about monkeys and monsters and napalm and shit like that. How many times have you seen Kong Skull Island

beginning to end as the director of it? Probably like 700. Oh my God. It's maddening. But the only part that makes it worthwhile is like going

and like watching you guys actually like react and jump and I'm telling you this movie is like way funnier and way like there's like a

cannibal holocaust reference in this movie. It's fucking weird. But like then you go and you watch it with an audience. Like, you're going to be there. He's coming to the premiere on Wednesday. You can email him for tickets. We'll put him in your loot crate.

And so you go and you watch it so many times, and then you finally see it with an audience where people, like, jump and react. And, like, I can't tell you how amazing John C. is in this movie. And the industrial light and magic made my childhood. The shit they do in this movie is incredible. So you watch it with them and suddenly you're watching it

for the first time again. But I had to record an audio commentary today and it was like being in the closet. I want to leave. Why am I still here? I'm freaking out. Because it's interesting to record the commentary before the movie's open, so you don't really know the overall reaction to it. Well, the super weird thing is I just made predictions about the future.

Like, it's so great we made this much money opening weekend. I'm so happy everyone came out. My life's changed. So that was a mistake and this is the how does this Kong compare to previous Kongs in terms of like

he's much much bigger yeah I mean he's a hundred feet tall because and everyone's like oh you want him to be tall because he used to fight Godzilla

right and it's like no sort of but he's tall to me because like if you and I, like, if you and I were to, like, if you and I were to sit here and there was no roof here and we looked out and there's this giant monkey towering over you, like, at what point does your brain go from being, like, like your first response, the first synapse in your brain fires and goes,

not, that's a big monkey, or that's a big ape, or wow, that thing's really big big but i'm looking at a god like how big does he have to be for to elicit that reaction and like the whole movie is about gods and men and and like what it is to be confronted with something that much bigger than you so he's fucking huge but he's also like a throwback to the the 33 film he's like a he's like a movie monster he's not just like a uh anatomically correct gorilla uh anymore like he like staying he's a biped. He stands on two feet. Instead of kind of being like a simian,

he carries himself with a pride and a nobility. And he's like this lonely god and protector of the island. You guys ever play Shadow of the Colossus, the video game? It's like that. He's got that weird melancholy feel to him. Sounds fucking awesome. I mean, go and watch it. I'm excited about it.

I hope so. I was excited about it when I first heard about it. Was that great? Yeah, it was because I like King Kong movies a lot and I like the Godzilla movies and I think it sounds fucking really cool and the cast is great too.

The cast is amazing. John C. Reilly, John Goodman, he's a fucking legend, like Brie Larson, Tom Hiddleston, two of the kids from Straight Outta Compton, Sam Jackson. It's crazy. I can't believeie Larson, Tom Hiddleston, Two of the Kids and Straight Outta Compton, Sam Jackson. Like, it's crazy. It's like, I can't believe I got to work with those guys.

But this Friday, I guess. Thursday night. Thursday night. Thursday night's when all the real fans go see the Friday movies. Honestly, though, you watch like the IMAX version, because you're right, this has been a hard process and a great process,

but you're in this crazy black hole for super long. And you're like this has been a hard process and a great process but you're in this crazy black hole for super long and you're like oh my god you don't know up from down anymore like you've just been focused on this one thing for so long like this is i don't know is this does this work is this good do people like this and you're in this crazy hole and then you watch the movie like the first time i saw the movie in imax you have this like childlike response we're like oh my god i made a movie that's on an imax screen like this is a big movie and like and then it just makes everything worthwhile so if you can see it in imax do it because it's fucking dope can you can you ban it from ever being shown on a plane

because it feels like the wrong movie to be like just the screen because it's so tiny and it's meant that it's so big honestly that would be horrible well it's not just that but also like every time I leave a plane and you watch it someone's like oh what'd you watch by the time I'm in the airport

on the way out I'm like oh I don't remember yeah like it because your brain just doesn't think about that shit

yeah I have well I have plane movies though that I watch I have Flight and Sully Alive Alive that's the third one that's a good one and Sully alive alive

that's the third one that's a good one yeah Sully is great the way they you know Sully only successfully landed

the plane in the water but yet they still have two sequences in the movie where he dreams about what would happen if the plane had hit a building instead it's just like oh great so something

that worked out fine we have to still sit here and watch the nightmare scenarios did you see flight as well uh-huh because flight almost feels like the like if Sully was a movie from the 50s, Flight feels like the 2017 remake. Like, and this time the plane's upside down, and he's shit-faced. No, I thought somebody should have taken Tom Hanks' Sully from that movie and then just put him in the scene at Denzel Washington in Flight where he wakes up the day of a flight and he's with the flight attendant and they're doing blow and drinking and smoking weed and

like you know everything's going but like just have Sully in that situation also doesn't that movie doesn't Sully make like the safety organization the bad guy like isn't that like a very modern day right? Well there's a lot of yeah the drama in the movie

is debating whether or not he did the right thing, but it's like, again, we all know that he did the right thing because everybody fucking lived. Good job, Sully.

He's walking around the movie going, what does he say? The souls? How many souls? How many souls? You know, he wanted to know for sure.

How many souls on board everybody lived yeah and they did so good for him just let's take a moment that exciting of a movie watching them you know they just kept showing sim you simulations of if he'd gone to you know the different airports he could have gone to it's imagine instead of the Hudson International. And we knew how it ended. Nobody didn't know that he was still a hero when you went into the movie. Nobody was like, how's this going to turn out at the end?

Is he guilty? So that kind of ruined some of the... But that's every Tom Hanks movie, isn't it? You kind of know he's going to turn out to be a nice guy and it's all going to be lovely. I know. When's he going to play a prick in something? He needs to. He should play a bad guy in something. He got to play a couple bad

or a bad character in that Cloud Atlas movie where he played a bunch of characters. Oh yeah. But then he had to be in those futuristic scenes where their dialogue was so weird. Their little future language that they tried to create. I like that movie. It's got some good parts. It's definitely got some good parts.

I'll take an interesting failure over and that movie's not necessarily a failure but every movie in the theater right now is like, you guys watch a trailer and by the time the trailer's done you're like, well I've seen that before. I'll take a movie that swings through the fences and tries weird shit. Even if it's not a perfectly

well-rounded film over the same shit over and over again. I can see it in the ads now. Kong, Skull Island. Interesting failure. And you know what? I'll take it. I'll take it.

100%. That's what I was going for. Richard Roper says, well, at least they gave it a shot. I'd rather have an interesting failure than, that was safe. Yeah, right? Come on. Well, do you think Cloud Atlas, yeah, Cloud Atlas, though, was, I really,

I felt like it was a lot of shiny stuff happening, but there wasn't a lot underneath the, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but still the fact that that narrative even makes a little bit of sense. Right. The fact that it even makes this much sense, considering how ambitious it is, I actually think that's a huge undertaking. That's cool. And some of the stuff in it is super dope. So I'll take that for sure.

I prefer the ambition of Cloud Atlas over the absolute, it feels like there's no story or anything in Speed Racer. I thought you were going to say Sully. And I was like, no one's ever heard or anything in Speed Racer. I thought you were going to say Sully, and I was like, no one's ever heard Sully in Cloud Atlas before. Jupiter ascending. Is that the one where Channing Tatum has the Spock ears the whole time? Yeah. He has Spock ears. He's like a dog.

He's half of a dog. He's part dog. Yes. Yeah, he's got space boots. He's playing the John Candy character. He's always sniffing Mila Kunis' ass. It's weird. Yeah, those, not great.

And I didn't like that his catchphrase to the movie was, Hey, Mila, I got a bone I'd like to bury. In the movie, he refers to her by her real name. Yeah. That's the catchphrase. And talks about a bone he wants to bury. Keeps making shitty dog jokes through the whole movie. That would be great, though.

That'd be so good. But talking about taking a chance at swinging for the fence is like, everybody hated Eddie Redmayne in that movie, but it's on par with his other performances as Stephen Hawking or as the Danish girl in that he just fucking goes for it and then you know if the movie sucks then of course he's gonna suck

can you imagine from their perspective like that movie came out like literally I think weeks after he won the Oscar and he shot it before and he must be like yeah it's like the Norbit effect the classic Norbit I'm gonna go on record here I think Norbit effect. The classic Norbit. I'm going to go on record here. I think Norbit is hilarious.

I truly do find the movie very funny. All right, show of hands. Who's with Joe? Nobody. Come on! We got one. And he's in the front row. There is one guy, the front row guy.

Terry Crews. There's a scene where Terry Crews lays out a blueprint for his dream strip club that he wants to build, and he goes, I call it Nippleopolis. That's really funny. Yeah, but that's really like every man's dream, right? That's not like, that's not unique to that film. I've actually never seen Norbit, so maybe you're right.

No, he's not right. Let's talk prize bag, you guys. Let's start with Joe DeRosa. What did you bring for the prize bag as a first-time guest on the show? Well, I brought this brand-new DVD. It has never been opened or watched. It is called The Dead Undead, Vampires vs. Zombies. I belong to a subscription service called Horror Pack

where I get four movies a month for a fee. You pay like $20 a month and they send you four movies. And you get to keep them. And I keep most of them. But then some I'm like fuck this this one so this is one of those this one you didn't even crack the uh you didn't even crack the plastic on it now i googled it just tell from the oh what did google say nothing came up so i was like okay i'm giving i'm gonna give this away legitimately nothing came up i couldn't find

anything so i just like all right that's... I have so many movies at home. I have to draw the line somewhere. It's funny. They say mankind's greatest fear becomes its only hope, but then that makes me wonder, is our greatest fear the vampires or the zombies?

Vampires, for sure. You think? Yeah, people don't side with zombies the same way. Vampires are like deep, thoughtful, like sexual creatures, and zombies are like... No thoughtful, sexual creatures and zombies. No, people don't go to see movies to see romance with zombies.

There's a whole fucking franchise about sexy vampires. Didn't they try that, though? What was that one? Warm Bodies tried to have a teen romance. It wasn't as sexy as vampires, was it? Just didn't get there. I've been thinking about that name since you said it, and I can't get my head around, the dead undead.

Like the undead are the dead undead, aren't they? They're... Like the undead is the dead undead. I admit they were dead and then they're undead. So what's the dead undead? I had many good reasons for giving this movie away tonight. The Sleepless Nights was one of them. How are the dead...

That's just... I'm so confused. It's not good. No. It's implying that the normal undead aren't dead yet, and that's just us. So are we all undead?

Because we're not dead. Because if they need to clarify that the dead are undead, then that's the undead. Hey man, are you dead or undead? I have no idea anymore. I thought I knew until tonight. Excuse me, it's like a double negative, right?

You know how there's like, stay woke? I wish it was just like stay undead. Stay undead. So I guess the vampires eat the undead. They eat the zombies, right? What's that? I'm guessing the vampires eat the bro stay undead They eat the zombies right? What's that? I'm guessing the vampires eat the zombies They don't eat the zombies There's no appeal

Or feed on the zombies No First of all vampires can't eat things To begin with That's what makes them a vampire It says vampires versus zombies And mankind Versus

It doesn't say vampires eat zombies But the thing Their special trick is Oh we can just eat them. I've known... These are delicious. I know you've been in a jungle for the last 11 months. You gotta back off of me a little bit. I just got off a plane for a month.

I'll just theorize. I'll say, our greatest fear is our greatest hope. That must mean they sick the vampires on the zombies. Go eat those people. and then we're fine. Yeah, that's what it says here. The vampires take the defenseless humans under their wing, and an all-out war between vampires and zombies begins. But again, that doesn't seem like...

It seems like vampires just want to be suave and sit around in houses without mirrors. I don't know why... I don't know how they could take on a whole army of the Walking Dead. Well, one lucky customer tonight is going to find out. One lucky customer. All right, Scroobius Pip, what do you got for our prize bag situation?

Well, you've got to be aware that I found out I was doing this like four hours ago and I'm in a country that isn't my own country. So I was restricted to what's on sale in the shop next door in Meltdown. So I've got some comics, unsurprisingly. That's perfect, yeah. But I themed them.

I went for people I've had on comics unsurprisingly. That's perfect, yeah. But I themed them. I went for people I've had on my podcast. Oh, that's fun. So I've got Alan Moore's writing comics, because I had Alan Moore on. It was great. He did, he kept telling me, because I do, I come from spoken word and hip hop as well,

and Alan Moore kept saying, he's like, I used to do like poetry, I've got this 11 minute poem that I still remember to this day. I've not done it since the 70s. And I left it hanging for ages before I said, do you want to do it? Because it was so obvious he wanted to do it. So I just kept moving on.

He kept going, still to this day, I can remember. I can still to this day remember the words. So I went, go on then. And it was amazing. It's fantastic. I've also got Jennifer Blood by Garth Ennis.

It was fantastic. Injection by Warren Ellis. Which is what I came here to buy because I thought I'd bought it online to read on my flight. I bought book two. So it just sat in front of me. So I came to get book one so I can read

book two on the way back. And the last one is The Wicked and the Divine by Kieran Gillen and Jamie McKelvey who both came on the podcast as well. And they're all really good books that I've read and enjoyed. Now The Wicked and the Divine is that about a battle between The Wicked and the Divine? Yeah.

Basically The Wicked eat The Divine. Because The Wicked are always eating shit. You know what they're like. That's a great bag of comics there, right? From right here at Meltdown Comics. So, good job. Yeah, I often resort

to saying that to my guests when they're like, I don't know, what am I supposed to bring for the prize bag? I'm like, there's a whole place you could shop in. Right next door. So that works out great. And Jordan brought for us a DVD of... A Blu-ray. Oh, sorry, Blu-ray.

Of my first movie, Kings of Summer. Which is signed by me and therefore meaningless. No one really saw this movie, so I think you're all fake clapping because no one's ever seen it. No, they saw it and they loved it. I hope so, but you make an indie and no one even knows it exists. Thank you guys if you did see it.

I also have a poster from Kong that's signed by me and none of my famous actors, just me. It's also worthless. But someone can have that. Yeah, that's great. One person's going to walk away with all this stuff. Before we get to the game portion, I'd like to quickly ask all my guests

the same question. We'll start with Pip on the end there. I could call you Pip? Yeah. Okay. What was the last movie you saw? Did you watch something on the plane? I did, but I've watched a movie since then. Oh, you watched a movie on the plane, got here to the States, and then watched another movie. Yeah.

I quite enjoy movies. It's not quite at your level yet, but I quite enjoy them. Where did you see it? Arclight. Okay. Was that your first time at the Arclight? Yes it was. It's neat right? Yeah it was good. I enjoyed it.

Good chat. I went to see Get Out and yeah it was as fucking amazing as everyone says and there was numerous points in the film where I was like right I get it. This is good and then it just impressed me over

and just kept impressing me more and more from the direction to the performances to the writing and everything. It was fucking great. Yeah, I still haven't seen it yet and I'm very excited about it. It's good. Okay.

It's fucking great, right? I enjoyed it. Yeah, I thought it was really, really good. Yeah, I just saw that too. It was awesome. So good. Is that your answer? Is that your answer, Joe, to the most recent movie you saw? Yeah, I just saw that too. It was awesome. So good. Is that your answer, Joe,

to the most recent movie you saw? No, that's the most recent movie I saw in the theater, but I watched half of Inferno last night, which is the sequel to Suspiria, and I was too fucking tired. But the last full movie I saw new was Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

And it sucked. It really sucked. What didn't you like about it? Well, your boy, Eddie Raymond, who you're just singing praises for, played it real flat. Yeah, yeah. Spoiler alert. It's not an interesting character. No.

And this is a spoiler. Colin Farrell turns into Johnny Depp at the end of the movie. I was like, is that supposed to be funny, that part? It just wasn't good. I don't know. I don't know. My friend Pat, I have a movie podcast called We'll See You in Hell. And my co-host and I talked about it.

And Pat Walsh, my co-host, was exasperated over how much he hated it. And he goes, it's a movie about a guy that for some reason carries around a suitcase of dangerous animals and then is upset when they get out! It is odd. The title says where can you find them or where to find them. And through the entire movie

we know that they're either in that bag or just escaped from that bag. I will say, though, it's an extension of the Harry Potter franchise. I was never into that, so I had some friends in town recently who were like, hey, we want to show you these movies.

And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. But then that was better than talking to them, so I was like, fine. They're great people. I was overwhelmed. I had movies in my brain. So I watched all the Harry Potter movies in the course of a week.

And every single time one of those movies ended, I was like, that's the ending of this movie? Are you kidding me? It's a great saga as a whole, but as individual movies, I go to the film to see a beginning, middle, and end. That's what I think is powerful about film. And every one of those movies, it and you're like wait that are you

really that that's the whole story in this one movie and people fucking love it and they eat it up and that's why everyone's silent right now because they're all fucking huge harry potter nerds well guess what fantastic beasts is your harry potter movie because it ends in a bakery the weird thing is kong ends in a bakery too uh what was the last movie you saw other than kong of course yes i've seen kong three times in the last three days um in three different continents did you see something else recently i saw hell or high water and i love you i i was like sleeping on that movie. I wasn't paying attention to it and like it's one of those things where

you can tell generally from a movie by the first shot whether there's something that's going to grab you and like Ben Foster is so fucking good in that movie but there were like five or six things that happened in that film where I was like whoa! Okay. Like it's just anything that catches you off guard like that I love. Have you seen it? Yes. You didn't like it? just the anything that catches you off guard like that i love have you seen it

yes you didn't like it i saw it twice in theaters yeah i wasn't around yeah i loved it uh scrupius pip uh dm'd me today to let me know that he was in town for a week and he said that he's in Moonlight Moonlight Land. I enjoyed that very much. Good to be here. That you put that strong of a piece of comedy just in a DM. I watched Moana on one of the flights today flying home from Florida and it's fine.

People had convinced me that the songs were really good but I didn't like the songs particularly. It's alright. That's an animated movie, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you're writing out a review it would be funny to just write out

meh Moana but spoken it doesn't work as well someone tried to convince me to watch that while I was on a plane and it was like no that's absolutely not what I'm going to watch I'm going to sleep first of all but I would definitely not watch Moana on a plane

like it was Tom Hiddleston trying to tell me to do it. He loves movies like that. And so, I love him. He's my dear friend. Shut the fuck up, Loki. Pretty much. That's the shittiest thing Loki ever did.

Yeah. He got banished to Moana. I'd watch that movie. It's kind of fun the way Moana, not Moana. Before I saw it, I would just always assume that The Rock's character was Moana, but it's the girl. The girl is Moana. But The Rock's character has lots of tattoos

and the tattoos move around and do things. So that's kind of a fun visual. Is it magic? Yeah, he's supposed to be a demigod but the tattoos will act out little scenarios and argue

a hilarious, sensassy personality. Do they have their own sidekick? Kind of. Yeah, they're kind of like a Greek chorus, but they're drawn on him. Normal. Totally normal. Yeah, and then this is one where the animals don't talk, but there's

a little pig for a little while, and then there's a chicken that's in it quite a bit, and the joke is how dumb the chicken is. Like, the chicken will, like, eat a rock and then swallow it and then throw it back up and then go back to trying to eat it again. It's real fun.

It's fun for all ages, especially the dumber ages. The toddler or the senile person enough talk about movies that's not what we're here for this is a part of the show where I say, let the games begin! Guys, we've got a lot of amazing name tags to choose from. Los Angeles has really stepped up tonight, and I appreciate that. All you've got to do is

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Yeah. Oh, wow. What's that about? I just saw it in a a shop and I liked it and we discussed the last time I was on what does it say

you were wearing that shirt the last time you were on? no no no it says fly oh okay but last time we were on we discussed in the last couple years

I've started acting and he was the last six foot four guy to get serious roles. Like not comedy roles, so he's a big in, so I'm six foot four, I wanna be the next Jeff Goldblum. I think that sounds doable.

You gotta have a target, right? Yeah. Is he that tall? Yeah, he's tall. He was in a film called The Tall Man. Yes, he was. So that was his breakout role. So he set his stall out quite early. Which one's Jeff Goldblum?

The Tall Man, yeah. The one, tall. Is he fly? Yeah, he's in a movie called The Fly. That doesn't mean anything. He was trying to just be descriptive with all of his early films. I'm tall, I'm fly.

Did you ever see The Fly with Jeff Goldblum? Yeah. It's great. Oh, my God. It's one of the best movies ever. Yeah, fantastic. Yeah. He's in my favorite version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Yes. He's in the one from the late 70s, right? Yeah. With Donald Sutherland and everybody. Yeah, that movie is... It's very good. Oh, it's incredible. Yeah, that little weird half-man, half-dog thing that comes out at one point.

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty gross. Did you ever see the Abel Ferrara one? Abel Ferrara did a remake in the late 80s, early 90s, which was a very strange thing. Yeah, I didn't care for that. It's not as good. No. Well, because it's an art house guy doing a horror movie. Yeah.

You know, he clearly goes for what it's about underneath. Does it have a chicken that eats rocks? Yeah. And it pukes it up again. I'm a sucker for a chicken eats a rock, pukes it up. It's the puking it up again. That's good. It's the puking it up again that makes it work.

Part of the reason he eats a rock is foreshadowing about how later he's going to eat Dwayne Johnson. Not even his character in the movie, but Dwayne Johnson. Yeah, because he's the rock. Who are you playing for, Joe? I'm playing for From Dustin Till Dawn. All we talked about, Pip, was your shirt. I didn't even get to your name tag. Oh, shit.

I'm playing for Jeff Goldblum. Always have been. You're playing for... Someone made a poster that says Funny James on it. Yeah, just Funny James. I liked it because it's quite descriptive. Again, it's like the Jeff Goldblum thing. I'm into descriptive films. So Funny James. I liked it because it's quite descriptive. Again, it's like the Jeff Goldblum thing. I'm into descriptive films. So Funny

James, yeah. That's instead of Funny Games? Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I enjoyed that. Alright, Joe. Sorry I interrupted yours. That's okay. This is from Dustin Till Dawn and I love this movie and I thought

that was a clever play on the title if your name is dustin yeah and uh he did a nice job yeah he put that on uh twitter today and wrote to me did i do this right and i was like yeah that seems about right movie movie pun your face my face good job but there was hard to choose there's a lot of good ones out there. Yeah, no, it is difficult. The people listening won't know that you weren't actually willing to put your microphone down, so you were only choosing from the front two rows.

It was about your scope and range. That was more just the physical shape I'm in. Walking past the first two rows seemed too overbearing for me. Jordan, who are you playing for? Well, actually now I regret it because I see his that's all handmade, but I'm not

going to do my man Brandon like that because I'm playing for O'Brandon where art thou. But I really wish I was Dom of the Dead at this point, but Brandon, I still got your back. I still got you. Yeah, Dom just gets a nice mention. How does that feel?

You feel all warm? Good. All right. Okay, so you guys, you can put your name tags down, but face up, please, so I can still read them. Funny James is all rolled up.

He does not care. He does not treat his name tag very well. But that's cool. It was like that when you got it, right? Yeah, it's not me that didn't treat it well. No, no, I'm not blaming you. If anyone was confused there, I've treated it beautifully. With the utmost respect since I've had it.

Good. All right. I'm just going to adjust it. I'm going to put a bit of the mic lead on it to hold it flat. I like that. Oh, perfect. Now we always know. But now it's just fun James.

Fun James. Yes. There's two guys on the poster. One could be funny James and the other is fun James. Slight little differences between the two. This first game we're going to play is somewhat new to the show, but I am absolutely loving it. It's called Argo Fack Yourself.

And basically I'm going to read questions from a movie's frequently asked questions on the movie's IMDb page. As soon as you think you have an answer, just say the answer. You can guess as many times as you want until somebody gets it correct. Make sense? Yes. Okay. Mouths on microphones. Or near them.

One of the questions was, for this movie, why are the natives Africans? King Kong? That's correct! That's correct! Okay, okay. Sort of handed you that one, but the point is,

why are the... This is the 1976 King Kong. It could have been the 33 one. It could have come up with 33 also. Why do you think the natives are Africans? In that case, because people were racist. 76?

And 33? No, I mean, they're just, those were like highly insensitive portrayals. And we like, in our movie, we actually took great strides

to like have our villagers be something different that wasn't like a crazy racist stereotype. And I actually really love our villagers in it. What are they called they're called the ewe but like they just have this weird like they have this weird like they have this weird like uh like eight bit kind of like face paint on them uh that's super cool kind of like kind of apocalypto kind of look uh

yeah but it's all like right angles and hard edges and it's like scarified so it's all raised but it like covers their whole body and it's like it's like when you look really close it's like a language um and it's like decorative but then there's times where you see them use it as actually like camouflage to like blend into walls and stuff um but it's like very like did you guys ever play like the ps3 game journey you know so like it kind of has like some of that language in it like it's very like 8-bit and like it's it feels very like anachronistic and like a circuit board almost as opposed to like a very like clean tribal makeup but in the in that movie they were uh they they didn't really have their shit figured

out back then the next question was why did the natives build such a huge door in the wall? King Kong. No. No. No, because there's a door he comes through in the movie. That's why it's there, so he can escape through the door. Yeah. Remember when they do the ceremony with the girl? There's a door. Yeah.

Why would they build a door into a wall that's supposed to keep something in? Oh, then we're supposed to guess what movie the question was about. No, we're still on King Kong. This was the second question. Oh, then we're supposed to guess what movie the question was about. No, we're still on King Kong. This was the second question. Oh, now we're just on King Kong. Oh. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I thought we were still guessing. Sorry. Because, so, yeah, if you want, I'm going to read five of them, and they're all King Kong. Okay. So if you want to get bonus points, you can guess King Kong every time. King Kong. But I have an answer.

Okay. It's because he has to come in for the sacrificial ceremony. No, he's on the other side of the wall. He's at about the 76 or 33. This is the 76. Yeah. Because it would look ridiculous if he was climbing over the wall. That would look silly.

Yeah, but he could still break it. If he's that strong, he could just smash the thing. He doesn't need a door to say, hello. No, but they're offering it to him. So they're saying, look, Kong, we built you a door. Come on in. Yeah, in that version, he comes through. It should be like, knock, knock, door's gone.

In the 33 version, he's on the other side. That's the version that's more confusing. Oh, OK. in the 33 version he's on the other side that's the version that's more confusing okay and then why does Jack stop running to meet Dwan at the end of the movie

King Kong yeah do you remember that he's like running to meet up with what's her name Jessica Lange and then he just stops I guess

according to this question I don't remember that no at the end of the 76 one and her name? Jessica Lange. And then he just stops, I guess, according to this question. I don't remember that. No. At the end of the 76 one? Mm-hmm. And her name was Dwan. Dwan.

Yeah. Well, the way she's introduced in that movie is insane. When's the last time you guys watched the 76 version? They're on their own mission. She's unrelated to the film at all. And they're on a boat. And then literally they're like, who's that beautiful woman floating in the ocean? And she was like on an orgy cruise, basically.

Swear to God. And the boat sank, and she survived. And so she's just, she's like random, she like shows up full makeup, like the dress, the whole thing. And she's not a part of the story at all. It's not like the 33 version of Jackson's

where it's like, oh, we need this actress, whatever. It legitimately is complete happenstance where she's like, oh no, she was on a boat partying. Like a yacht with rich guys. And they're all dead. They're all dead. Yeah, and she's just like, I'm gonna just keep living my life.

Well, they didn't find her like drinking champagne at the time. She was like passed out. Is she upset? She just passed out? I mean, yeah, she was a little upset, but she wasn't upset enough not to She was like passed out. Is she upset? She just passed out? I mean, yeah, she was a little upset, but she wasn't upset enough

not to go to like Monster Island. Because here's another still like, I'll go on this little vacation. She probably didn't have a good life on an orgy cruise with a load of old men. I swear to God,

you guys are like, that can't be real. Watch that movie and that's how they meet her. I'd be pleased if they all sunk and died. Oh, you're the girl from the orgy cruise.

Okay. Then people also wanted to know, why did Dwan appear to be so loopy during the ceremony? And I think that's just they straight up drug her, right? Like give her a drink or something. I actually don't know if you see her getting the drink though, but she's like, she's

feeling it. For sure. Yeah, and then this one you can really answer this one why does king kong walk upright like a man isn't he supposed to be a gorilla what if i was like uh titanic uh king kong but it right isn't he supposed to which version is that about 76 did you just go to the 76 version for all those? Yeah.

Well, the idea was that you might not have gotten it on the first one. Oh. But I should have figured that you would know a lot about King Kong.

Well, yes. I know too, I'm telling you, my brain is a hard drive and it was like, data full. And I was like,

well, okay, what important childhood memory should I get rid of for this? When, in the 33 version, he's like a movie monster, right? He's like, he's not an ape. He's like his own species, his own thing. Some like primordial being.

Yeah, he lives on the same island with dinosaurs. Right. And then, you know, but he's still like simian-ish. And then, you know, it wasn't until 2005 that they turned him into just a big silverback gorilla. And so we go back. You went back to he's just walking on his legs. How many of you guys have seen the 33 version? How many of you have gone back and watched this?

See, that's not even that many. That movie's so good. It's like a masterpiece. It's still a masterclass in filmmaking. You watch frames in that movie and you're still like, how did they do that? In 1933? Yeah, the effects hold up pretty well considering

how old it is. And how new what they were doing was. You guys should watch that movie. It's still to this day. It's an impeccable genre story. Come on, you guys. Let's finally give King Kong some support that it deserves as a classic motion picture. People have been sleeping on it.

No, it's true. No one's paid attention to King Kong. It's a lot more fun and funny and a lot of the stuff that I think Peter Jackson was sort of going for but was lost amidst all of the visual effects. Yeah, I can't really comment on that. Yeah, you can't go slagging that movie. No, but honestly, go and watch that movie. It's like an actual movie.

If you guys are here and you're nerdy and you like old films and you like film history or classic cinema, it's a masterwork. It really is. It's super easy also to be like, oh, black and a masterwork. It really is. It's super easy also to be like, oh, black and white film, I don't know. And it's captivating. And then they quickly made a wacky sequel.

Son of Kong is so good, though. It's got some really good stuff in it. They made the movie in 10 months. King Kong came out in 33 and was this enormous hit. And the studio was like, make a new one. they had 10 months to do it and they made a sequel

I was at Best Buy right before I came over here this is true I didn't know you were one of the people on the podcast and I almost bought Son of Kong

have you seen it? I've never seen it but it was a double pack with the original King of Kong and I already own the original King of Kong like the deluxe one and I was like

I'd rather just get Son of Kong by itself instead of owning two King Kong Son of Kong's really goofy and like kind of a kids movie at times, but there's amazing stuff in that film.

Yeah, it's much nuttier though than the first King Kong. It's like Hanna-Barbera almost. Would you say it's bananas? Doug? No, I'd say it's ape shit. No, I'd say it's ape shit. All right, so Jordan won that game rather unfairly.

There you go, Brandon. It's a huge cheater. Got your back. Yeah, but you're winning so far for Brandon. But from here, it just means you get to go first in the next game. And the next game we're going to play to determine the winner tonight, because this is going by quickly, is a little thing called Last Man Stanton. Pip, did we play this when I was in London? Yeah, we did.

Okay. So you know the basic idea of it is we're going to get the name of an actor or actress. And then all of us, I like to play along on this one. We take turns naming movies that person was in. If you can't think of one, you're out. But each of you gets to use your lifeline, which is the person whose name tag you chose. You can use that person once to help you out. And strategically,

I say go to the lifeline early. That's just my advice. Can I use funny James and fun James? Fortunately, you're just stuck with James. No matter what mood he's in. Regular James. No matter what mood he's in. Regular James.

But yeah, you could go to him once and we've pre-selected a person in the audience who suggested on Twitter today that they had a great name for this. Where is at Goes to Hollywood?

That's you right there, second row. Why do you call yourself Goes to Hollywood. That's me. That's you right there, second row. Why do you call yourself Goes to Hollywood? Well, it's actually a reference to a song. Is your name Frankie? You said it's a reference to a song. Which song? That song? No, it's a song called Dave Goes to Hollywood.

A song called Dave Goes to Hollywood, and your name is Dave? Dustin. Dustin? This is my team. That's Dustin till dawn. Oh my God, you picked his name tag and we picked him for this. This is collusion.

I don't buy this. This happens a lot, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, because he gets to suggest a name. I don't know if that's necessarily going to help him to win because I don't know if it's a name that Joe is going to suggest a name. I don't know if that's necessarily going to help him to win because I don't know if it's a name that Joe is going to be good at. And this is your first time coming to a Douglas Movies?

Wow, you really hit the jackpot. What's your suggestion? Bill Paxton. I kind of saw that that was coming and I wish I had written back to you on Twitter as long as it's not Bill Paxton. I mean, we could do it, but we just did it. I guess you don't listen to Doug Loves Minis. We just did it on Doug Loves Minis.

And for your average person, Bill Paxton is a tough one. Someone actually said a Bill Pullman movie, and it made me incredibly sad because I very much know the difference between those two actors and always have, but for some reason they get mixed up, and then for him to get mixed up with Bill Pullman even after he's dead, I got a lot of tweets from people going,

I guess now it'll be easier to tell the difference. I'm like, give it a minute. I'm sad about bill paxton like how great was bill paxton and so great at the end there because like in movies like nightcrawler and um uh edge of tomorrow he was like doing really good character work that he you know never could do in his early career because he was basically a leading man most of the time. Or a supporting terrible force. Game over. Yeah, exactly. And they say

Chet is his most... I won't say from what movie. Because let's do it. Let's do the films of Bill Paxton. And you get to start us off, Jordan. Well, does it have to be somebody who's in?

Can I say frailty? You can. He directed it. Right. Okay. That's who you're going to go with? Yeah. Frailty.

Good job. Lifeline. For reals? Well, you said do it early That was your advice You know what you're right When you're right you're right Okay Dustin what do you got

I mean he's gotta have one it's his idea Nightcrawler He's going Nightcrawler Beautiful Yeah I guess I shouldn't have done a tribute to some of his films

Right before Right before I'm going now with Edge of Tomorrow Yeah right Get it over with right? Yeah yeah before you rule that off

as you've already said it cause I pretty much need my lifeline. That film, of course, is also known by a lot of people as Live, Die, Repeat. Yep. In the UK, it was Live, Die, Repeat. Yeah?

That's how they straight up released it with that title? Mm-hmm. Okay. What's the craziest title change in the UK from an American title? Can you think of one? I have no idea, really, no. Yeah.

It doesn't happen very often, because we both speak we both speak english yeah we both speak english the internet exists one of my favorite title changes though was die hard because in russia they called it glass jungle which made a lot of sense for for the first movie yeah but then the glass jungle three yeah they're in central park did you know glass jungle too glass jungler They're in fucking Central Park. Glass Jungle 2. Glass Jungler. I like that. Glass Jungle with a vengeance.

A good day to Glass Jungle. Is it not? They got trapped in the naming convention. They could team them up with Leslie Snipes. Class Jungle Fever. This is a true story. I was in Italy when Boogie Nights came out. Guess what it was called.

Oh, this is a fun game. I'm going to go with... Giant Crank. Close. Really? Close, yeah. It was like, look at the size

of this guy's cock. No! Mamma mia! Wait, no, wait, no. It was Mamma mia, look at the size of this guy's cock. Sorry, I said it wrong.

So you had just a joke answer the whole time? Were you even in Italy when it came out? Or were you still in the fucking closet? No, I was in the closet. I think I was in 12th grade

when that movie came out. Too short, took me to go see Boogie Nights. I was 12. It was a very weird experience. I'm going to hashtag this episode in the closet. Hashtag in the closet. Okay, so it's my turn then,

and I'm going to say one I brought up on the Douglas Minis because it's an underrated movie, I think. It features our friend Mark Wahlberg as well. Traveler. Traveler. Yeah. Huh. Our good friend Mark Wahlberg.

Is it my turn? Mm-hmm. I'm just going to get it out of the way. Aliens. Yeah. Game over, man. All right. Weird science. We only got one of the way. Aliens. Yeah. Game over, man. All right. Weird science.

We only got one piece of applause for aliens? Are you guys kidding me? I can't tell you why people do or do not applaud. Like, it seems like the contestants that are less likely, you know, my guests that are less likely to do well when they get a right answer, that makes everybody applaud. Just out of encouragement.

But then it feels like they're applauding more for some movies than others. Sometimes they applaud for just a movie they like. It's weird. Wait, so you said aliens. Okay, so Joe? Weird science. What? Yeah, he's Chet in Weird Science. No, I know that, but I'm shocked we hadn't said it already

because I did say Chet earlier. You said Chet, but you go, I'm not going to say the movie because we're going to do Bill Paxton. I'm glad I kept it a mystery for you. You had to figure that one out. It is my favorite Bill Paxton role, though. I think he's so funny in it. All right.

I'm going to my lifeline, It is my favorite Bill Paxton role, though. I think he's so funny in it. All right. Pip? I'm going to my lifeline. Okay. And I'm going to request helpful James, if that's possible. Is helpful James here? Twister. Twister. He's going Twister.

Boom. There you have it. Thank you, James. Twister. Here's a great one directed by Carl Franklin. One false move. Again, see?

No clapping. Because people know I'm good at this. Near Dark. Yes. I always bring that up. Have you guys seen that movie? Guys! Near Dark yes that's what I always bring that up have you guys seen that movie people are talking

vampire movies guys you gotta go watch old movies too not just chickens throwing up rocks you have to investigate like old cinema

except for on Thursday on Thursday you have to go and see Kong Island yes but until Thursday, go to Best Buys.

There's these old films, often in packages. Two for one. I'm going to ask for a ticket for Kong Skull and see what happens. I think they'll figure it out. Chicken, Skull Island. That's correct.

All right. Yeah, Near Dark is a great vampire movie directed by Catherine Bigelow. The only woman to win best director for a movie. Furt Locker. I've said too much. Trespass.

Yeah. Yeah. You guys are all smashing it. There you go. There's the applause. What's that? There's the applause. That's a good movie.

Did you ever see it? I didn't see it. It's fun. Ice cubes in it. And iced tea. I did see it. Yeah. That was a great movie.

Yeah. Yeah. Walter Hill, right? Directed it? Yeah, and strangely, what's his face? I mean, the soundtrack's a rap soundtrack, but Rye Cooter did the score part.

Yeah, I think he did that for a few Walter Hill movies. Yeah, but it's a great flick. It's a lot of fun. And William Sadler's in it. That's who I used to... I used to get those two mixed up. William Sadler and William... Bill Paxton and William Sadler. Really? Yeah, because that was

the first time I'd ever... I didn't realize Bill Paxton was in Weird Science, so when I saw that movie, I thought that was the first time I was seeing both of them. It's so weird, Sadler, that weird, like,

naked Tai Chi that he does at the beginning of Glass Jungle 2. Glass Jungler. Sorry? Glass Jungler. Sorry, Glass Jungler. All right, where are we at? Me. Pip?

I'm out, and I'm so out. Even along that long extended conversation, I just stopped trying. I just, I knew how out I was. And even though we've had a really extended time for me to get one, I'm just, yeah, I'm done. Okay. I'm sorry.

That's reasonable. I'm sorry, James. You were very helpful. You know, he's just going to have to be sad James for a minute. That's my third favorite kind of James. I'm going to have to go with True Lies.

All right, Brandon, putting you on the spot. Brandon. Titanic. Titanic. We even mentioned that earlier. Very good. All right, Joe. Avatar.

Of course. I forgot he was in that until just now. What does he do in that? Can't remember. Hated it. Just know he's in it. He really is in it, though? Yeah, he's in it. When he died, it was in his in the blogs or whatever

they said. He performed in the most James Cameron movies. Oh, so that probably means he was also in the Terminator know the blogs or whatever they said he was he he performed in the most james cameron movies oh so that probably means he was also in the terminator he was yeah i know it's my turn ah oh um wasn't he in lost No? I don't think so. Oh, that's Pullman? Oh, shit. Yo, what has happened? I gotta go.

I gotta go. Paxton Fowl. God, that was the biggest Paxton Fowl. You can't even get away from that thing in death. Well, you jinxed it now. I know, right? God, well, fuck. All right, well...

It's just me and you. Did the one they guessed before, did someone stupidly say ID4? Hmm? Did someone say Independence Day when they guessed? No, what did they guess where they thought it was...

Oh, while you were sleeping. Yeah. Is what they guessed, and then I beat them with the microphone. Is Bill Pullman in that movie? She was a nice lady. Yeah. You just lit up.

You're like that. It's a wonderful performance. No, I mean, I'm just excited that I've always known the difference between those two. Oh, shit. My Five Wives. Or that TV show where he had all the love. That was an HBO show.

Big love, big love. Does that count? You can't say TV shows. That's a TV show, yeah. It's a series. But big love. But it's HBO. It's more than television,

as they often say. Yeah. It's HBO. It's more than television. It's television plus. But that's your final? I'm dry, yeah. That's the last thing in my head with Bill Paxton.

I'm blanking. Yeah, and you went to Dustin early. I know, because you told me to. It was my dumb idea. God damn it. All right. Here we are. Let me see if I can come up with another one.

How about... There's got to be something. Really? Don't get it when that happens. But... I'm just going to go with Tombstone. You know, it just came to my head. Do you win this game a lot, by the way?

Do you always win? I have a tendency to win. You're like the kid that had the Nintendo before everybody else. You go over, I win, I won! So I play again. I won. This whole podcast is Winner Stays On. Right.

Yeah, that's how I come back every show. Doug, would you like to come back and win again? It's movies. God damn it. Whoa. Yo. What happened? god damn it um what whoa yo what happened it's they had

there's a whole art installation and uh Paxton's pissed part of it was fixing them making it so the lighting's fixtures

had like very heavy things that might fall off of them well but it is a wrestling installation so I feel like that makes sense that a light would

fall on somebody yeah that shit's just gonna crash right somebody yeah but just sit there like it's like no big deal you've got your warning sign that you're like imminently in danger just chill just chill no big deal and when it hits you like fall on the ground act like it killed you like over act when it hits you like really make a big thing out of it that's the Owen Hart installation. Oh, shit. It's a wrestling fan

joke there, guys. Turns out Pip loves wrestling. It's not really a wrestling fan joke when the wrestling fans are the ones that have a problem with it. I had no idea what you were talking about.

This person just died recently? No, it was a long time ago, but he was coming down on a thing and fell from the ceiling and smashed his head on the... How long are you guys going to hold on to this? I'm very upset about this. Too soon?

If you made a Dale Earnhardt joke, people are still going to be upset about that. I saw Jackie in a movie theater full of people who did not laugh nearly as much as I did. I was just like, when are you guys going to let this shit go? It's funny that she's got a pink hat on and she's holding his brains in.

Come on. Do you remember Otto and George? Yeah, the puppet and the guy? Yeah, did you ever see when he would do the Kennedy bit with the puppet? Otto and George was a really dirty, ventriloquist actor, and the whole spin on the act was the puppet would insult Otto, like, the guy,

in ways that was so demeaning. What are you, nervous, you fucking loser? Like, it was really harsh. But he used to do a Kennedy association bit with the puppet where he'd flip the puppet forward and brains would fly out of it. And then the puppet would go, they're shooting Norton. They're shooting, which is for the Honeymooners reference.

And I asked, I once I go, why does he say they're shooting Norton? He's like, I just think it's funny. I don't know. He had no reason. Well, Joe, you lasted the longest, so you are our winner tonight. Yeah!

Are you going to be in Austin, Texas for South by Southwest at all? I am. I'll be there. I get there Saturday. I leave Wednesday morning. Interesting. Are you I'll be there. I get there Saturday. I leave Wednesday morning. Hmm, interesting. Are you going to be there? Yeah, I might try to get you on Doug Lowe's movies in Austin

if you got the time. I got the time! Because, you know, I love having people, I love having the winner come back and you really tore it up tonight. Let's do it, man. Hit me up.

All right, what Bill Paxton's did we miss, audience? A Simple Plan. Oh, Apollo 13. A Simple Plan's a great movie. Predator 2. Predator, what? K-Pax. K-Pax?

Holy shit. Your produce alone was worth the trip. Mighty Joe Young. Mighty Joe Young. Speaking of gorillas on all fours. Different franchise. Slightly related, different franchise. Yeah, alright.

So we did okay. And that's our tribute to Bill Paxton. Such that it is. What do you guys got to plug? Dustin, come get your prizes, first of all. I told you it was collusion.

I want a special prosecutor. And you can have your name tag back if you'd like. Take the loser's name tag as a reminder of who you've crushed. Do these have shitheads on the back though this one does this one there was no embrace there was nothing oh funny james didn't put a shithead on the back of his uh thing call me forgetful james yeah what do you want to oh i should just say forgetful

james is a shithead? What? That's fair. Okay. Or maybe that wrestler that died? What was his name? I almost just said out loud, Jordan, what do you got to plug? But Thursday night, see? Fuck it, Skull. Kong Island. I almost just said out loud, Jordan, what do you got to plug?

But Thursday night, see fucking Skull Kong Island. Go see that shit. Honestly, go and watch it. Please. It's super crazy. It's way weirder than you think it is. Go and check it out.

You know what's an interesting piece of trivia is... You've seen clips of it? Yeah, I have. Was what you saw not cool? The clips are amazing, but Jessica Lange, Dwan, in the 76 King Kong, she was coming from

Orgy. Correct. On Skullfuck Island. Correct. Correct. Correct. Joe DeRosa Joe DeRosa

we might see you in Austin but what else you got going on well for the movie fans in the house I have a podcast with Patrick Walsh

called We'll See You in Hell and it's like a Siskel and Ebert except much meaner and a lot of cursing and funnier and we cover

and those guys also both dead yeah they're also so you got them beat in that and being Yeah, they're also both dead. So you got them being alive. Yeah, yeah. They're undead or dead. They're the dead.

You're going to meet in the undead category. I'm still thinking about it. It's on the HeadGum Network and we've been going for a while and we only cover fantasy, horror,

and sci-fi stuff. So check it out. I hope you guys like it. Thank you, Joe DeRosa. Thanks, buddy. That's Scroobius Pip in LA for a week, taking meetings, getting waters. Getting so much water.

It's going to be great. Yeah, I've got a podcast to plug, Distraction Pieces. I've also got a podcast network called the Distraction Pieces Network, and there's a wrestling podcast on there called Tuesday Night Draw for any of the wrestling fans and I've just done a show that's just finished on FX called Taboo. It's on FX and BBC One and it's

on demand and all that kind of thing so give that a look if you get a chance. Cheers. Douglas Movies is back in New York City on April 2nd and 3rd and thanks everybody for being here one more time for my guests

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