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Episode Date: July 14, 2025

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She's had no time to study. It's Ellery Smith. Hey, Ellery. Hey, you really blew up me not having anything to do on a Saturday. You just broadcasted Well, I don't know what you're up to yesterday today today Feels like a Saturday I want one more does I my weekends or if I don't go out on the road on a weekend I don't know what's what's happening, you know Without those Saturday night shows

Saturday is hard to keep track of. Have you seen Superman yet, Ellery? No, but I'm hearing amazing things. I'm planning to this coming week and people are coming back to me with, I have a handful of friends who have seen it. And then the discourse on Twitter, people are really talking about it on Twitter. They sure are. People are getting into it.

I heard they were talking about it on an X on Saturday. Oh. But yeah, you should definitely see it. And, you know, that's part of the conversation is how mad people are at a woke Superman, which is a hilarious concept because, you know, he's basically born woke. Every incarnation of Superman, he's been a pretty woke dude. It's funny that they didn't change any of the details and people are...

Well they do. When you watch it, you go, okay, there's things in here for these people to be mad about, but they're not even seeing the movie. They're just mad. They're just going, have woke now like they're imagining it like he's like There's a scene where people are falling off a bridge and dying and he's arguing Spoilers dude, come on. What the hell jumping in on my joke, dude Let me get that way let me get that one and clean I

Let me get that way. Let me get that one and clean. I Two jokes for the entire hour of show and you piled on what I wasn't describing what happened All right, fine. Fine big take take two back to one. There you go and action Thank you. Thank you kind director sir They think that this that this version is Superman. He's out there letting people die while he's trying to figure out somebody's pronouns. See, that's a woke. That's what I was talking about. That's what we went back to one for.

Yeah. Okay. I think it was worth it. I think the key to enjoying jokes is paying attention to them, not yelling out something in the middle of it. Good luck, Ryan. Good luck with that edit. I'm going to leave it all in because I love it. I love when you're on the show

because stuff like that is going to happen. You bring a lovely amount of chaos to the proceedings. I was going to segue from Ellery and the Superman discussion into what a superhero you are because every year you take time out to save some Yorkies it's Joe Lynch hey Joe hi everybody hi is it going this is where everyone else can step on on my my bullshit so they were right ahead of They won't. They're the nicest, most polite people.

And then tell us about Yorkie thong. Well Yorkie thong is an annual event that Adam Green, fellow genre filmmaker and I do every year through our movie crit podcast that Doug has been on numerous times, so much so, and also donated a plethora of funds to help save many dogs or wheelbarrows of dogs for the Save the Yorkie Foundation in Massachusetts. And so much so, Doug has donated so much that we've actually christened our bathroom here at the Arescope office, the Doug Benson Memorial Bathroom. And it's got a plaque and everything. So anytime um christened our bathroom here at the aeroscope office the doug benson memorial bathroom so and and it's got a plaque and everything so anytime someone walks in we actually just had director joseph kahn in and he like he was like oh man i gotta take a shit we're like you can go into the

dug you can you can go shit in doug benson's bathroom and he walked in he's like wait the doug benson i'm like the one and the same so please feel free to make any deposits you like but yeah it's it originally the the event used to be way back in the day because I'm the idiot who came up with the tagline will stay awake so that they don't get put to sleep that we started doing what a moron but we started doing it for 48 hours straight from Friday, usually at 5pm, all the way until Sunday where we recorded for literally 48 hours, until a couple years ago, when we were all like, well, who we did it. And then I went home and systematically passed out in the parking lot. So after that concussion, we've decided, you know what, we're getting a little old. So now it's inter, it's sparse out over the weekend.

This year it'll be from July 25th through 27th where we're gonna have guests, we're gonna have music acts. We do live commentaries with a lot of the filmmakers. This year we have some really amazing guests coming on to talk about some of our favorite movies. We have a silent auction where a lot of people donate stuff. All of it goes to a great cause and every year we save a lot of dogs.

Over the years we've raised over $300,000, most of it from Doug Benson. No, shut up. Okay, maybe, all right, maybe. A good amount has come from Doug, but a lot of people, like both both fans the talent that comes out to They really just they kind of step up and we save a lot of dogs and we can sleep easier at night. I Love it. And you know, I should note that you know people who are horror movie fans

You know, these two guys are both great horror movie directors and aficionados and so like just the people that they can pull in to participate is it's the guests are always great and yeah the guests are awesome I will say this one of my favorite stories though because one year Doug showed up to the office we did our shtick it was great and. And throughout the weekend, he kept kind of checking in because he was listening live with everyone else. And we were blessed with having a few of the guys who worked on the original George A. Romero, Dawn of the Dead, to come into the studio

to do a live commentary. And the second we mentioned that, Doug's like, I'll be there in 10 minutes. And he showed up just to hang out and watch the guy with the sombrero who was also the editor of Dawn of the Dead, you know, like talk about the movie and John Harrison, who directed Tales from the Dark Side because he worked on it as well. Doug has been a champion of this and it's always nice to see him when he stops by and gets us high.

I mean, you know, that's one thing I really missed with the whole streaming era is, you know, the director's commentaries and bonus materials and that kind of stuff. And this was like a live, you know, commentary from people involved in Dawn of the Dead, one of the, you know, one of my, not only favorite zombie movies,

but just favorite movie period. So, so that's very exciting. And I'd love to devote the entire hour to talking about it, but we have to meet our third guest. Who is there any? This is what I wrote down. Can't wait to hear what this is. Wow, what a dramatic pause. Well, because I just I started to realize it's very hard to just say this naturally. It's so corny. But is there anybody better to Josh around with that? Doug, thank you.

Thank you so much. I'm very excited to Josh, you and also this look. I know we're going to play be playing games later. I got a little competitive and I'm already mad that I was edged out alphabetically by Joe. I was like, ah, neck and neck. Yeah, that's a really close one. That's one of those ones. And I like look at it a couple of times to make sure I was I was screwing it up.

Save God, even if he goes by Joseph, it would still raise the head of you. Yeah. I can change my name now if you want. It's totally fine. God, I could have so easily been an Aaron and just jumped in the front of the line. Well, that's why I do it is because like an Ellery Smith,

for example, never gets to be towards the front of the pack. Because they always- True. It's always, yeah. Yeah. It's always last name. So it's just a fun way to mix things up. Evening it out. I appreciate that. If we'd gone with the traditional last name, I'd be sitting pretty right now.

That's right. In some cases, it doesn't really change anything. Like in the case of Joe today, he's just in the middle there. Pretty much no matter what, I think Joe's probably the absolute middle of the alphabet. I'm the meat of the sandwich here. So this is good. Meat of an alphabet sandwich. We hear a lot about alphabet soups, not a lot about alphabet sandwiches.

Well, no, that's what I meant to say is that he's a JL. So like both are in the middle. So he tends to be a middle man when he comes on this show anyway. But before we play those games that Josh mentioned today, oh, do you have something you want to promote, Josh, real quick? I do, Doug. I have a new comedy special, an album that's out right now. The special is on YouTube. It's called Positive Reinforcement. It is a lot of fun.

I did it with Blonde Medicine. It's on their YouTube channel. And then it's out wherever you listen to streamed audio through Blonde Medicine as well. It's an hour of jokes. It's very friendly. I think after listening to me for an hour, you'll be like, oh, it's like that. So if you like what I'm about, then you'll enjoy it. And if you don't like what I'm about honestly I could use the numbers so you should watch and listen anyway yeah even if you even after this hour you're like I hate that guy check it out yeah what's your problem what are you doing for the next hour after that uh well before we play our games today, I would like to visit Recommendation Nation. That's where each of my guests recommends a movie, not a bunch of movies or even two

movies, just one movie that you think people should see or would enjoy seeing. I mean, whatever recommending means to you. We'll start with Ellery. I'm gonna recommend what is probably my favorite documentary. And I've seen it a bunch of times, but I revisited it recently. It's called The Parking Lot Movie.

It's a documentary about a parking lot on the campus of the University of Virginia. And it's really, it's very, I don't want to spoil anything. It's very like small, but it ends up being really big and it's, it's very, uh, like, there's also, well, yeah, that's my recommendation. It's really good. I don't want to spoil anything. It ends up about being like class warfare, kind of people. Um, it's on Amazon. It's on Amazon. It's probably streaming a bunch of places.

It's like, you know, I think pretty widely available. I bet it's also on YouTube. When you brought it up, I immediately flashed on there was a thing that used to be popular called Heavy Metal Parking Lot. And that was a hilarious short doc about

just talking to a bunch of people waiting to go into a metal show Yeah, it's pretty entertaining Yeah, it's on to be for free the parking lot movie no heavy metal parking lot I just Because I want to watch it later Yeah, so watch it there and enjoy it's a really I Don't I can't imagine someone not enjoying that but the parking lot movie Sounds like you're kind of implying that it's like Lord of the Flies, but in a parking lot

You know I've never thought about it that way, but I think that that's a very apt description, okay? I think you kind of nailed it. It's about like the parking lot attendance versus the people who park on the lot Oh, I see yeah, yeah Joe have you the parking lot attendance versus the people who park on the lot. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah Joe have you seen parking lot movie? I haven't seen the documentary. No, but I'm sold now. Thank you Ellery Well, we were talking about two different movies there's a short documentary and well the heavy metal parking lot that dude I Watched I remember I Remember when that was like the hot thing to get on bootleg on VHS because you couldn't find it anywhere else.

So you'd be going to like a Fangoria's weekend of horrors where everyone else is going like get me meet the feebles. Where's that bootleg of like all the old early Peter Jackson stuff or an old Fulci movie and I'm like heavy metal parking lot. It was just something that you back in the day before you didn't have YouTube. It was one of those things that people just kind of passed to each other and I remember seeing like getting a bootleg and seeing like a copy of a copy of a copy that was you know videotaped off of SLP so you can barely see what's going on but at the same time you're

like that's exactly what it's like to be outside Nassau Coliseum when you're going to see Motley Crue back in the day or probably now. And yeah, I love that. All right. So that's two votes for Heavy Metal Parking Lot. Me and Joe. I've never seen any documentaries that take place in a parking lot. You're missing out.

You left out. It hurts. I'm on the outside looking in take place in a parking lot. You're missing out. Left out. It hurts. I'm on the outside looking in bigger genre than you might expect. Get to well, there's another one hands on a hard hands on a hard body. Oh, that's great. Oh, so good. Yeah. And then, of course, you know, what has crippled the parking lot movie is the parking lot interviews that are on TikTok.

That's so real. Yeah, there's always people in parking lots trying to talk to people about stuff. I feel like they should do a drive-in movie festival of all the parking lot documentaries so you can watch them while you're parked for like a fully immersive experience. Yeah, and a parking lot experience. Don't give that one away for free, Josh. Do not give that one away for free. That's a good... immersive experience. Yeah, don't give that one away for free. Josh, do not give that one away for free.

That's a good that's a yeah, the parking lot movie festival because you don't even you don't even have to really do it at a real drive in, you know, you just have somewhere where the parking lot and a wall. That's right. Which I went to a lot of those during COVID. I saw a few movies that way. You just stay in your car. Was that at the Mission Tiki when they were doing that with like Beyond Fest?

I didn't do that but I did get in a Mission Tiki before it closed. I was at the last screening of any movie before the Mission Tiki closed, which now is unfortunately an Amazon delivery station. They totally decimated. We saw the Gerard Butler opus flight and there was nothing more bittersweet than sitting there honking your horn for Gerard Butler before driving out going, this is never going to happen again. It's such a bummer. But yeah, the driving experience is something that I wish more people could be able to do those. There's a lot of pop ups that happen here and there. But yeah, the mission Tiki was a special place. So that's where you want to recommend this flight with Gerard Butler? No, I do not. Well, I mean, have you seen flight? It's pretty damn good. Does his flight with Jared Butler, the one where Denzel plays Jared Butler

and it drug flies the plane. It's not Denzel. It's another African-American gentleman. But yes, I think you're pretty close on that. Oh, no, not not that Denzel Washington. We Zemeckis had nothing to do with that flight. OK, OK, OK. No, the movie is like a pet peeve of mine.

And people keep making movies with the title of a previous movie And it's just I don't get it. Just come up with a new title Anyway, Joe I'm with you I Wanted to recommend a movie that I just watched last night. My wife had recommended She's a huge noir fan and we've been kind of going through a lot of film noir from like the 30s and 40s. And there's this amazing movie that's on the Criterion

channel now called Crossfire. It's a twisty noir. Came out in 1947, directed by Edward Dmitriq, a name that has absolutely no vowels in it. But it's starring, let's see, Robert Young, Robert Mitchum, Gloria Graham. It's unbelievable. It really blew me away.

And it's basically one of those cool little noirs that somebody dies in the beginning, usually in the shadows, and everyone's trying to figure out who did it and why. And the why is incredibly relevant now. It was based on a book. And in the book, there's this murder that happens that happens to be connected to one of the characters being homosexual.

And in this case, for the movie, which came out in 47, this is only a couple of years after World War II, they changed it to the gentleman being Jewish and man like it hasn't like a movie hasn't hit like relevantly like that to me in a long time plus. Robert Mitchum I mean you can't go wrong with that guy he's so bored in the background he's actually said like on record in some of his books that it was the worst performance he's ever given in the movie he He's actually said like on record in some of his books that it was the worst performance he's ever given in the movie he hates. But that's only because the director basically put him in the background to smoke cigarettes and just kind of put his hand on his

shoulder and just kind of go what the fuck am I doing here? But that said it is awesome. If you like film noir, it's one of the best film noir that I've seen in a long time. Are there any scenes in a parking lot? There are no scenes in parking lots, but there are scenes in dirty bars, in stairwells, in lots of shadows. Unfortunately, no parking lots, though. Sorry, I haven't really taken over yet. That's true. Yeah.

All right, Josh, you got to write a quite an act to follow there because it's we're two out of three and I haven't even I believe I've heard of these movies, but I haven't seen them. But so what have you got? I might also have one that you haven't seen. I love it. I'm going to going to recommend tangential to a discussion that we've already had, my friend Aaron Judge, who's a really funny stand-up comedian, co-wrote with Tina Romero, daughter of George Romero,

a movie called Queens of the Dead, which Tina will set to direct it. Oh, I can't wait. It's fun as hell. It is a drag queen zombie movie. They made it super indie, super like it was like a real indie production. It's coming to theaters and shutter in the fall, but I got to see it at Tribeca. And so I wanted to put it on people's radar because I'm

so psyched for people to see it. I saw it like during Pride in New York. And so there was like a really queer audience. Everyone was just kind of going bonkers for the zombie drag queen movie. It was a blast. That's like Joe said something to look forward to. That's right. Are you going to get to see it early, Joe? Well, actually, I think Tina might be involved either in York-E-Thon or on a future episode of Movie Crypt. Once it came out, people started talking about it, I got really excited.

I saw a little clip from it and I can't wait. Tina's absolutely lovely and any kind of variant on zombie movies that you can do these days, especially one from, well, basically the spawn of the godfather of the zombie movie I'm totally in for. Yeah, that sounds absolutely cool. And thank you to all of you for those sweet ass recommendations. We'll be right back. Today's episode is brought to you in part by Shopify. The origins of Doug Lowe's movies were once but a wistful dream. That dream turned into the podcast and business you are listening to today. Starting your own business is a dream lots of us share, but too many of us let it remain

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Shopify.com slash DLM. Back to the show! We are back. I told you we'd be right back and then now here we are. Our first game today is called. Neeson, Nielsen, neither. I already laid out what's going to happen in the game right in the title. I'll name a movie and you have to tell me if it features Liam Neeson, who is Frank Drabbin jr. And the new naked gun movie coming out shortly or Leslie Nielsen the og frank Drabbin or

neither First two three correct answers wins the game Ellery you're up first Are you ready? Yeah Ellery Europe first. Are you ready? Yeah. OK, so Valerie misses this and Joe, you'll have a 50 50 because you have two options left.

And Joe, Joe misses that and Josh just gets a free point. Hell, yeah. Now, now who's? Yeah, I'm changing my name. I'm playing this. The alphabet, my old friend. Well, we'll see how far it goes. Cause you know, between, you know, educated guesses

and you know, what you might actually know about either of those gentlemen could lead to lots of correct answers, but we'll start with you, Ellery. Neeson, Nielsen, or neither, scary movie two. Oh! I can't ask what year, right? I have to just make a...

I don't have it in front of me, but... Like 2006? I will say this, that like, you know, all the movies in this game are, you know, within the right frame or either of those actors could have been in it. Okay. Um, I'm gonna guess Nielsen. Incorrect. Joe, I'm gonna say neither. That is correct. Joe. I'm going to say neither.

That is correct. Woohoo! It is neither. But Nielsen, Leslie Nielsen, is a good guest because he did join the franchise in Scary Movie 3. Oh, I thought you said I thought he was a guest on the show. What? Who knows? He could have he could have been on Doug Love Movies. You never know. Right.

One can dream. Yeah. No. Well, now you're talking about Nissan or either. Shit. I would I would take either one on the show. Well, you know, I feel like would take either one on the show. Well, you know, I feel like it would be a more compelling guest. Right. He'd answer the questions. He does have a special set of skills. Because he'd be alive. OK, fine.

Josh, you're up first. So this next one, Neeson, Nielsen or neither a movie called nuts. Not no exclamation point. No. Okay. All right. This changed my answer. I'm going to guess Nielsen. Wait, sorry. No, no, no, I'm sorry.

I fucked it up. Forget it. I said what I said. What would you change it to? I was going to change it. I was going to change it to me. So you can't do it. You can't. I said if he could. But that's what I would have changed. Yeah. But I said, I was curious what was going to happen. Yeah. But you were right the first time it is Nielsen.

Hell, yeah. Take that, Ellery. No, I wanted the point. Is this the Streisand movie? Yeah, it sure is. The Streisand movie. It sure is. Holy shit. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, Leslie Nielsen had some sort of... It's basically a drama. I think Richard Dreyfuss gets off a few kind of Richard Dreyfuss-isms, you know, he has some funny moments, but it's mostly a drama.

And yeah, Babs, Barbara Streisand is the lead. But I was thinking about the movie Nuts. I was thinking about it overall because of, because people are calling Trump's response to this whole Epstein situation. They're calling it the Streisand effect, you know, because that's now what they call it. I just learned this the other day. That's what they call it when somebody draws attention to something that if they just kept

their mouth shut, probably wouldn't have gotten much attention. And that happened to Barbara Streisand because she like wanted a picture of her private home. Her house, right? Yeah, she wanted it taken down because, you know, she just didn't want her picture on the Internet. But the act of trying to get it taken down made everybody want to look at it. He wanted to see that house. Yeah, yeah. Everybody went nuts because of the strides that effect.

All right. Round three, Ellery, you're're up first the other two players each have a point. So this will be a good one for you to get. Thanks Doug. Wait cuz uh, yeah, Josh got that last one. Dead. Yeah, cuz you wouldn't let me change it to a worse answer. Yeah, yeah, that's that's right. Yeah, that's actually that's kind hearted.

And for that I think you're... And that's right. Yeah, that's actually, that's kind-hearted. Nielsen or neither, the nut job. Okay, I'm going to say Nielsen. This is about Detective Squirrel, am I right? Or something of that effect? I believe he's a raccoon, but yes, that is the correct answer. Nice.

Okay, sue me. I can't believe this landed on the nut job expert. I thought it was the porn parody of the Italian job. OK, well here's the thing. I haven't seen the movie, but I think it is like an animated squirrel Italian job vibe. I think so, yeah. It's kind of.

Raccoon, I'm sorry. Bruce Willis is one of them. Yeah. Will Arn them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, our net. Yeah. I can't believe it. And there's oh, and that job, too, as a funny subtitle. Oh, my God. Wait, what is it? Not even nature.

They did not even answer. Yeah. I was going to say, not even by nature. That's really good. I've seen almost every B animated movie. You're not going to sneak one by me. Have you seen the movie? Of course I've seen the movie. B movie.

Did you see that job three balls to the wall? Okay. So you're up first on this next one, which I'll be shocked if you don't know this. You lucked out on this next one, which I'll be shocked if you don't know this. You lucked out on this one. Which one of those guys are neither is in the Deadpool. Oh, that is definitely Liam Neeson. Yes, it is a very flamboyant Liam Neeson. He plays like a like a hoity toity director.

I emulated my entire career on his performance as a hoity toity B movie director directing Jim Carrey or sorry James Carrey as a rocker. You know that movie doesn't get enough love. It's got an amazing car chase scene with a remote control car that emulates bullet. Highly recommended. with a remote control car that emulates bullet. Highly recommended. Yeah. Call me when he takes on Wolverine. Yeah, exactly. He really did ruin that title forever.

But I guess Deadpool one word would come ahead of the Deadpool in alphabetically in movie review books and whatnot. I guess so. Yeah. What how does it work out with the space in between? I don't know. I feel like that makes it a second word. So the alphabetically the Deadpool one word would come before. Yeah, true. That pull two words, you know, in case there's some other word with dead and then like dead poo. What if there was a dead poo? Oh, yeah, that's the that's the scat porn version of that. Josh, you are up next. Neeson, Nielsen or neither.

A motion picture called High Spirits. OK, I'm going to answer for right or wrong. I'm thinking of the right guy this time, and I'm going to once again say Nielsen. Nielsen is incorrect. Ah, Ellery. Say the name of the movie one more time. High Spirits. High Spirits? Yeah, I'm gonna say neither

My goodness Joe who is it is definitely Liam Neeson and Neil Neil Jordan's You know high spirited romp that movie is fucking weird. Yeah 1988 Darryl Hannah, I believe No other movie sports a cast of people is it Peter O'Toole Darryl Hannah and Steve Gutenberg in an Irish ghost movie Goots is in there. Yeah, look at work and people see it. Yeah, high spirits. And doesn't Steve isn't Steve Gutenberg?

I've been thinking about this the whole time. Doesn't he play a parking lot attendant at the beginning of Police Academy? That's like where he gets his start. I wouldn't be surprised because also like when he quits, you're right. Hard drive through the and he's got that he's got that cool shirt that says like, you know, one in the oven with uh with an arrow going down to his uh that's how that's a classy classy cinema right there incredible pole joe on that t-shirt i i know if if you somebody wears like a half shirt joe's gonna read what it says on it and getting printed in his brain. But Joe, congratulations, you won that game.

Yay. You are the most. Can I ask, what is everyone's feeling towards that naked gun reboot that they're doing? I am excited to see it. I am too. I like Liam Neeson. I like Pamela Anderson.

I liked the original naked gun. They're doing so many fucking reboots anyway. Why not? It's directed by Akiva from the Lonely Island. Oh, really? Yeah. Now I'm actually really interested in seeing it. I feel like that I'm very excited to see that take.

Yeah. Trailer that trailer that had the OJ joke fucking destroyed when I saw F1 a couple of weeks ago. And when that joke hit, the whole crowd was like, you know what, I'm just going to go on my Stubbs card app right now and get tickets. I love that. I'm locked in.

I'm going to do it on my AMC after we're done here. It's a Stubbs movie for sure. It's a Stubbs Tuesday discount movie for sure. Yeah, I have mixed feelings about it, because do think I think it's in the right hands, but I also just curious how it can be done now. Yeah, can you do that kind of spoofy parody these days? Well, the rapid fire jokes in the airplane. Well, I think like people have the attention span for I read this thing.

I don't know if it's true or not, but that like when they were doing test screenings They basically had to teach people how to watch a spoof movie again because it had been so long since so it's like I think that there I think that you're dead on something where I feel like the ability to read those movies has like disintegrated a little bit you Sometimes there's two jokes happening at the same time or one jokes ending and another one's being set up and or happens right away Like the the rapid-fire nature of the best Zucker Brothers and Abrams movies. Yeah, like if you're sitting there with your phone

You're not going to enjoy it because every time you look at your phone, you're missing a setup or a punchline or both Plus there are so many things so many comedies now that have no jokes going on at the same time. No, not at all. That's much easier to follow. Sometimes there will be many pages between jokes. But I think I'm excited to challenge audiences to lock in. And then I think the theater experience will be very key on this one. Leave your phones at home.

Yeah, I love a big silly comedy in a theater too. Me too. Yeah. Maybe the you know, maybe the nostalgia factor will really, really play heavy. Maybe it really the older audiences. That'll be something that they're willing to come out for. You know, because that's part of the problem is like, yeah, people get older. They're just more into just, you know, they could just watch it at home. There's no reason to go be annoyed by all the things. I mean, the 10 AM movie is an elusive. Oh my God. It's a gift from God.

It's the best. It's the best. I left one of the Grove and it's like a 9 30 AM movie because the walk, the walk through the place is fun. Cause it's like, Oh, it's COVID times again. You know, like there's nobody. And then then but then you go in and there's enough people to feel the group experience without having to be, you know, crowded in there. I, my wife and I and our friend comedian, Allison Lively, went to see an 11 a.m. showing of the Tim Robinson, Paul Rudd film Friendship and there are only two other people in the theater and the three of us each

individually laughed more than those two people put together and it was an incredible ambiance. I love that movie. It was great. Yeah those people must have felt like are these were they hired to come in? It must have and then on the way out on the way out an older woman with a dog was trying to buy tickets to a movie. And she said, what did you see? We said friendship. And she said, is it a sweet movie? And we we all kind of looked at each other like we could really prank this old lady. And we said, no. Yeah, she probably should.

She's probably better off with materialists. Bring her back. Oh, God, Jesus. Yeah, that would have gone well. If I go to a commercial break yet, I don't think so. Let's do it. We'll be right back. All right, we are back. And since Joe won that first game, he it was a squeaker, but he pulled it out and he gets to go first in our second and final game that will determine our winner today.

And the order flips around so that it's going to go Joe, then Ellery, then Josh. But everybody gets three guesses in a game that I call the little search engine that could. engine that could. I woke up this morning, typed a word into the search engine on the internet movie database, because I am DB, then I wrote down the top 10 movies that have that word in the title. Your job is to guess what the funky algorithm over at INDB thinks are a top 10 movie with this word in the title. And the word, since my favorite part of Superman was the super doggy, I decided that today's word would be dog. It's in a lot of movie titles Recognizable ones all the way up to like 40. I mean there's certainly there's a lot of ones in there

They're like, huh? I don't know that one, but there's a lot of known dog movies So you'll each get three guesses. You'll take turns starting with Joe He'll name a movie and then I'll tell you if it's worth any points or not and then we'll move on to Ellery etc Joe what do you think? What do you think? And this is you know, the algorithm RGB is basically, you know What people are searching for? Yeah currently, you know They may know maybe nobody's looking up any movies with the word dog in it But this is still the algorithm still thinks these are the the top ten

What would you guess it's for your first guess? Mmm, I'm going to shoot. All right. You know what? I'm going to go the classic. I'll go dog day afternoon. Indeed, a classic about to be a Broadway play. Really? Yeah, really Broadway. That's going to be.

Yeah, this is a fun sidebar with guess who's in the Pacino role who made John Liam Neeson fall no that's great that's interesting I like that yeah and guess who's in the John Cazale role John Cazale role. Ben Affleck, Leslie Neal. Probably Karnavali. I mean, that's a tough thing to ask out of all the actors. But you know, these Broadway plays now, they figured out the secret. The biggest grossing shows on Broadway this past year all had big stars in them. You know, and basically they just get the,

you know, all those tourists that want to see the stars and are turned off the idea of, you know, a musical or a traditional one for sure. But anyway, that being said, I assume he's playing the John Cazale role because it'd be like this second biggest role and he's such a whiny bitch. Eben Moss Baccarac from The Bear. Oh, wow. Perfect. Cool. You mean Fantastic Four's Eben? I mean, just, you know,

we've already seen them bicker on The Bear, and so we know they can do that while robbing a bank on stage live in front of an audience. Oh man, that's gonna be great. Yeah. Is that the guy from Girls? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And I think of him mostly as the guy from the Elizabeth Holmes show with Amanda Seyfried. I think of him most as the unfortunate person who has to wear that horrible thing makeup in Fantastic Four. I don't know how much of it they did with CGI, but it looks it looks uncomfortable.

Dog Day Afternoon, number two on the list. Oh, shit. Wow. Probably because of that announcement of that Broadway show. People are all part of my plan. Yes. What's that? So, yes, I think that's that starts either late summer or early fall, I think. But we're not here to talk about Broadway. We're here to get Ellery's first dog title. Yes. My guess is Lords of Dogtown I mean that is a terrific guess but it is not no way really that's why I guess because it's a is a

perfectly good guess yeah that's actually crazy yeah that's a that's a perfectly good guess. Damn, that's actually crazy. Yeah, that's a big dog movie right there. Big dog movie. A big dog movie. Yeah, we're lacking big dogs, but you know what I mean. So I'm sorry. You wear a big dog t-shirt. I'm sorry, Valerie.

Gotta mark you down for zero, but you still have two more guesses. Josh, to your first guess. I'm gonna guess all dogs go to heaven. Ooh, good guess. Oh my god, that's a... That is quite old. Quite one of the more morbid concepts in the history of children's animation. I mean, that only marginally less morbid than the movie Some Dogs Go to Hell.

That was the original title. Only only scrappy. That's the one dog that went to hell. Unfortunately, that did not Wow make it I know see this is this is very surprising to me that you've come up with two very big dog movies and yet Joe has a comfortable lead. What will he add to it? What is your next guess? Oh, do I do another dog one? No, you're going to get to do three in total. Okay. This is

your second one. What do you got? Hmm. All right. I just just even the playing field a little bit. I'm thinking a little obscure. Ghost dog. Oh, what? Oh, sorry. Was I supposed to say the entire title? The whole title. Yes. Ghost dog.

The way of the samurai. Oh, that is on the list. Wow. Yeah. The great forest Whitaker. Go Jarmusch. Jim Jarmusch. Nineteen ninety nine number nine on the list. Wow. So Joe just keeps on ways.

Increasing his lead, he said. Eleven points now. But it's not insurmountable. There's a lot of points on the board. We can still surmount. You can still mount. You can still mount. That dog can mount.

You can surmount in heaven or hell. What do you think, Ellery? I'm going to guess Reservoir Dogs. Oh, good one. Come on, that's got to be on there. Does that count because it's plural? This is I'm running this game and it is enraging. We've read so it is so.

Wait, is it not on there? And wait, is that real? Check this out. It's not in the top 10. I should really. I know, right? I think we should always be number one. I I might quit. That's actually crazy. That's Grock is officially running this algorithm. Yeah

That's goddamn right. That's right. Well, you know, it's just you know today is not a no, you're right You're right. It's falling out of the zeitgeist but with the recent passing of Michael Madsen Yeah, it would be number one because people are, you know, like going, hey, let's watch that crazy dancing scene. That's what they call it. Because I don't want to be too graphic. And so maybe some people just think that there's this crazy scene where an ear dances. And it kind of does. It does not on its own, but it does dance.

It does. It does get involved in the number number 17 on the list. Reservoir dogs. Damn. Jesus. That is that is totally unfair. I'm going to make a call to the commissioner. The ghost dog is over reservoir dogs. Wow. The Jarmusch hive is strong. That's making everybody think they're a son of file. What happened to the classic?

They're in the pocket of big RZA. I mean, whether you hear these, I stand by my initial statement that I've heard ever seen most of these movies, but it is a peculiar list. So, Josh, it's up to you, man. If you put any amount of points on the board, you have a chance to tie this up or win. OK, if you get any points this time, given what given what we know about how this algorithm sorts out, I'm sure the number one movie on this list will be Dogtooth.

Oh, that's a good movie. That is such a good movie. Jorg is... Oh my god. I forgot he did that. Yeah, he did. He's gonna do a lot of things. Did you see signs of kindness? Yeah, oh yeah. No. What? Should I? What are you going to spoil?

So I haven't seen it. Oh, it's great. It's more of like an anthology of his. Yeah, no, it's like that's the things three hours, the like one hour each approximately So I was already like, you know, I Like him though. I mean, I like the time will pass no matter what I'll read that's a beautiful philosophy. No, that's the people who say about a movie and they say it too often You know, I'll never get those two hours back.

It's like, what you think could be that important. When you die, they're like, ah, cancer was two hours away from being cured. It would be nice if you got- But you had to watch Iron Man 2. Oof. Wow. If when you were dying and you went to heaven,

you got those hours back, I think that would be an amazing but none of us know. But at least you get to see all the dogs. You get to see all the dogs. The dogs are going to be there. And it makes heaven really bad, actually. I love that premise. When you get to heaven, there's somebody there with a machine.

Who calculates your wasted time. And you tell them, you tell them every movie that you hated when you were alive. And then they add up the runtime. And then they give it to you back. Like at the end of a soccer game. Yeah. Wow. What would you do with your, like, 47 hours or whatever?

All this time spent watching G. Lee. The only thing you're allowed to do with it is just watch another movie. Watch another movie. Yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. You know what I mean? You can't.

You can't go do something special. You can't exchange it for a different task, yeah. Yeah, you can't go see the love of your life one more time. Unless your love is the movie. Exactly. That's right, that's right Josh. Why it's perfect for me. And I'm definitely stalling

because this outcome has been just outrageous. because this outcome has been just outrageous. And the film Dogtooth. Did not make the list. Oh, man. All that buildup. I was hoping that maybe there would be some early Yorgos fans, but that's a bummer. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a shame. All right. So just to make this interesting, Joe, you get a third guess. OK, if the movie you don't guess. Is not on this list. I'm going to take away from you. Oh, I like it, Doug. We fixed points.

OK, all right. Four hours. Everyone else has a fair shot. Everyone has a chance to try to win so we could play it out. But that's if you don't hit in the top 10, which I think you probably will. But go ahead. Okay. All right. If we're gonna go algorithm based considering that, you know, like what people were probably

searching for, you know, at the time. So over I think is on Friday, one of my favorite, my wife and I do this thing where anytime Joe Bob Briggs does the last drive-in on Shudder, because it's live, we get a pizza, get a couple beers, watch it, because it's like a live event. And this past weekend, they did Werewolf Weekend, and they played a movie that I loved when it first came out and this is

the movie that Neil Marshall did before the dissent and it was Dog Soldiers which you know a lot shockingly on the social sphere a lot of people hadn't seen so I'm guessing that a lot of people went Dog Soldiers what is this and probably checked it on IMDB so I'm my search my choice is gonna be dog soldiers It's probably gonna fuck me but whatever It's gonna fuck everyone Joe because That's one of the ones that I've never seen dog soldiers really list at number five Really? Yeah from 2002. I couldn't tell you anybody who's in it

The only thing that Kevin McKidd from Trainspotting was in it There's a lot of a lot of people that you probably you know didn't see before but they kind of went on to do a lot Of amazing character work in British cinema ever since yeah. Yeah, it's a great. It's a great werewolf movie It's kind of like aliens with werewol. Yeah, yeah. It's a great it's a great werewolf movie. It's kind of like Aliens with werewolves. Yeah, I mean, I sometimes when I'm like having trouble like if I'm playing charades and the word is werewolf, I'll just act out dog soldier and people you know, people pick up on that. Rawr pew pew because that's what they are. All right. Well, that was insane that

that Joe was the only person to get any of the answers, any of the top 10. But let's I'm sorry. That's classic middle of the alphabet privilege. Yeah, got to be the middle kid dog forward. Let's go to Ellery and just let's put some points on the board. Give me a dog movie. I'm going to say because this is literally the only I could think of a dog's purpose. Oh, my God.

And what about a dog's purpose, too? Is that a movie? I think so. Yeah, it's called. Oh, wow. It's purpose to many by nature. No, there is a dog's purpose too because I was like, I didn't see dog purpose one because you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's an anthology where they just kind of show that like when somebody loses their dog, a new dog is born somewhere else. To be honest, I haven't even interacted with it that much.

I just remember the poster. Okay. Because I think that's what it is. I think it's like there's like a series of actors. I don't know if it's the same looking dog or if it's just different dogs, but like in each vignette, the dog does something for their master that makes them such special animals. But it just sounds like they just, it just seems like it would just, you know, you would cry.

I would cry constantly. Yeah. I see a movie where one guy, I see what, you know, Hooch dies, I've lost it. God damn Hooch. I do feel like that to me, that is covert Christian propaganda. I feel like that movie, I don't know anything about it,

haven't seen it. No, I think you're right about that. But the vibes are, yeah. You flip the letters of dog around, what do you got? God, that's so right about that. But the vibes are. Yeah. You flipped the letters of dog around. What do you got? God, that's so right, Josh. Yeah. And you've slipped the letters and purpose around and you just get jumbled.

That doesn't make sense. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. I'm sorry, Ellery, but that movie didn't make it either. There's so many damn dog movies and there can never be too many. And in my opinion, Josh. You want to give us one more for fun? Yeah, I'm going to guess one that doesn't even have dog in the name.

That's what I think the algorithms do it. I think you say dog. They give you Marley and me. Oh, oh, oher. The breakdown of the internet. It's funny that the IMG algorithm will throw in a title that doesn't have a dog in it at all or you know there'll be something out of nowhere and I'm always trying to figure out like what's the you know what is the connection? Does it have something to do with dogs? But in the case of this particular list, I'm going to give you one more guess because I just, in fairness, the word dog is in every answer. The word dog is in all of them.

Okay. Yeah, but that is a fun guess because that kind of thing could happen, but I'd eliminate it because why would you guess something, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know you mean. The only movies with dog in the town. I was just kind of going off the map I really can't I'm trying to think if I even know another dog in the title movie offhand Well, there's the other advice I give to people in this playing this game Is that you know any word, you know any kind of common phrase that that yeah That's true or something could have potentially have been a movie at some point.

I'm gonna go with Hot Dog. Hot Dog the Movie! Yeah, there was a film called Hot Dog the Movie. That's what I'm guessing. Okay, number 39 on the list. With a bullet. Yeah, yeah. If we're going case some rules,

I made the top 40. Yeah. But that was, you look at the scoreboard and it's remarkable in its own way because if Joe had tried to get three strikes in a row, if he tried to miss three times a row, I don't think he could have done it. I think there's a special skill in that. I'm like Liam Neeson of Dorky Answers.

Yeah. So Joe, real quick, you gotta do your plugs first before I tell you the rest of the results, the other dog movies that got missed. What would you like to promote? I'm assuming it's York-E-Thon. It will definitely be York-E-Thon, which is July 25th through 27th on aeryscope.com. I think we're gonna have it streaming in a couple other websites that are gonna sponsor us as well,

but show up, hang out with us. We're gonna be recording live throughout the weekend. It's all going towards Save a Yorkie Rescue, which we've done countless amounts of help with before. Uh, there's going to be guests, music, Doug Benson, of course. Uh, who's going to be, uh, I believe dropping by, hopefully dropping a deuce, uh, in the office. Uh, I'm actually, I will never shit in the Doug Benson Memorial.

Is that kind of like shitting where you eat? There's a shitting, where's your name is? Whatever it is, I'm not doing it. If you should in your own memorial restroom, you have seven days to live. It's already plagued with fire that you named it Memorial when I'm still alive. But now if it prophetically, if you died in that bathroom. Oh, no. Like, all right. Yeah, you're not allowed to go in the bathroom But anyway, yes, it's gonna be all weekend

We're gonna be posting all throughout the weekend with really cool clips guests music comedy live commentaries And of course Doug Benson love it. Thank you, dude We'll have you back on this show sometime soon to defend your title but for everybody's Edification here are The top ten movies a dog of the title from 2016 number 10 is Dog eat dog starring william defoe and nick cage hmm

Yeah, Nick cage makes them puts them out too fast for me to see all of them. That was Paul Schrader, I think. Oh, see, I should I should see it. But you know, like I said, Nick Cage is hard to keep up with. I saw the surfer. I feel like I should be on the way to year. Yeah, you have time. Never eight.

Never nine is Ghost Dog. And then number eight, Wag the Dog. Oh sure. Barry Levinson. Yeah. Number seven, Alpha Dog with, you know, Justin Timberlake. It was a Cassavetes joint. The late great Harry Dean Stanton was in that.

Number six, Black Dog. Oh, Patrick Swayze and Meat Loaf. Is that right? Stanton was in that number six black dog. Oh, Patrick Swayze and meatloaf. Is that right? Oh, the trucker movie. This is something else called Black Dog that came out in 2024. But Josh, your heart was in the right place. If I had said black dog, it's I imagine it's the answer. Children like now it's the other black dog that's on the list. Yeah, well, you know, it's funny one of them finished at

19 so that's that's probably the older one. Yeah, then the 2024 one. Yeah, that would have been dangerous waters for you to tread into Number five is dog soldiers the great dog soldiers number four One the Oscar for best director and No other Oscars that it was nominated for which is quite the anomaly The power of the dog. Oh, yeah Campion. Yeah, very controversial that movie A lot of people like to argue about what it meant. And then number three, this is what I was trying to coax out of you is just going, well, there's probably been a movie called Dog and

there in fact has that came out in 2022 and start Channing Tatum. Not in the, not in the title. Oh, I remember. Yeah. Not in the title. It's like kind of an adventure comedy. Yeah. Is he like a veteran in it? Right. And the dogs like his like. Yeah. Partner dog. The dog saved his life or he saved the dog's life. And then they continue saving their lives. Yeah. Who saved his life, you know, for the rest of their lives.

And I wouldn't be surprised if poor dog ends up dead by the end, you know, because it seems like it'll be sad, you know, sad. But then see, that's what they do with Marley and me and Turner and Hooch. They then have a scene where there's a bunch of puppies. And it's like, yeah, that's cool that they can get some puppies. But it's still it's still too tragic. If your grandma dies, they don't like to make you hang out with a bunch of babies right after.

Grandma's dead. I need a baby now. I need to replace grandma with a baby. No, they just bring over a new, you know, other grandmas. You should be able to adopt grandmas. A bunch of other grandmas. They've lost their families somehow. All right. And number one, this is kind of sad because of course people are looking it up. It came out earlier this year I believe and it's probably on one of the streams. A movie I haven't seen but looks very cute. Dog Man. Oh right okay. Pete Davidson. Yeah.

No Dogtown and the Z-Boys, no Boy and His Dog. Dogtown and the Z-Boys, that's another one. Yeah Dogma was way down the list at 34. No boy in his dog dog man bites dog Yeah Dogma was way down the list at 34 and that's interesting because the aren't they read aren't isn't that in back in theaters this year? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's got like a anniversary re-release Man bites dog. That's an intense movie. That's a that's a number 18 but

Great job everybody Ellery Smith, what would you like to promote? I have two shows next weekend on the 18th Hold on. I write everything down so that I could okay on the 18th I'm at the Virgil at 7 p.m. And then on the 19th I'm doing this like vegan comedy show at 530 in the afternoon Which will probably will not be the best set of my life But I will definitely be eating dinner there Yeah, that sounds uh, I

Mean delicious sometimes I take that I take a you know, I'll take a nice meal Yeah, yeah, because you know the money's probably not gonna be that much I Am willing to bet that the the value of the meal will be higher than whatever I would have gotten paid Yeah, when they go the fruit is free, you know, just get something that would cost, you know What you feel you should have been paid for that set. Yeah, and That's why I always have lobster I did that once with an opener where she like open for me I was like, hey, I'll buy you dinner afterwards and I did and she got the filet mignon and a very expensive wine

And I kind of I was like, okay Really defying the spirit of the offer she was right to do it. I was like, you know what I did not put any I Love that Josh what would you just condiment and always great having you what would you Josh Gondelman? Always great having you. What would you like to promote? Watch my special positive reinforcement on YouTube or listen to the album where we listen to things by my wife Maris Kreisman's brand new book.

I want to burn this place down her new essay collection. It's wonderful. If you need any more Josh Gondelman related information, tour dates, etc. I read a newsletter every Monday called That's Marvelous. It is now on Ghost and you can or you can find it at Josh Gondelman or excuse me at That's Marvelous News www.thatsmarvelousnewsletter.com Josh Gondelman on social platforms. Nice thanks Doug. Is Maris good at movie trivia? Oh I bet she's better than I am. She's really good at that Cinematrix.

Well maybe she should uh pop on this show sometime. I'll put you in touch. Nice. Oh, I bet you could hook me up with her. I know. I have an email on everything. I was going to say, I think Josh has her email. You've got the digits. At least an old email. Yeah. Look for me at York-E-Thon, but also this month on Wednesday the 16th I'm playing at the Park

Theater in Holland, Michigan. My first time there. On Wednesday the 23rd, that's the night before Comic-Con begins, so I'm doing my annual Douglas movies in San Diego, an American comedy company on Wednesday the 23rd. And then on Saturday, July 26th we are live streaming once again from here in Los Angeles over at Dynasty Typewriter at three o'clock Pacific Time. You can go to dynastytypewriter.com and purchase the stream if you can't make it in person and all of my dates and dates are at DouglasMovies.com. Thank you once again to Ellery Smith, Joe Lynch, and Josh Gondelman. And as always, oh Frank, everyone should have a friend like you. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. Eyes of gold is viewing prowess makes it cocky.

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