Doug Loves Movies - Judd Apatow, Jessica Kirson and Liza Treyger guest

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

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Doug hates candy wrappers, green and maybe sticky seeds With 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth There's still not one that he won't see Cause Doug loves movies Hey, hey, hey everybody! My name is Doug and I love moment shots This is Doug Loves Movies Coming to you once again from a dying planet.

It's Thursday, June 11th, 2020, and my guests today are Judd Apatow, Jessica Kersen, and Lisa Traeger. Yay! Hey. Are we all on at the same time? Is it all together? Yes. Yay, I didn't know that we were all going to have this explosion of togetherness. It's a fun surprise for you. And I'd like to introduce you to the listeners individually and alphabetically, starting with that voice you just heard. Judd Apatow is here. Yes, I am. I'm right here with you doug hey so i've always uh felt that you would accept when people say apatow or apatow that you just accept which either one i love it all i love it all i I love it all. I feel like Apatow is the mistake, but in a weird way, fancier. Well, yeah, that's, I mean, I've known it's Apatow and always correct people, but then fucking John Lithgow comes along. Yeah, that messes you up, right? And he insisted it's go,

let's go. Oh yeah. I made that mistake. He was in, this is 40 and I, it took me months before I could make that adjustment. I'm bad at that adjustment. Like Lisa, Liza,

fuck me up. I can, right. I've been calling my wife the wrong name forever. Cause she's Leslielie man and i always call her leslie and i do a joke about it but literally 20 years into our relationship she's like john it's leslie leslie it's not leslie and i'm like you literally have never said that in 20 years and she said because i knew you couldn't make the adjustment and then i

would just be mad at you all the time for not making the adjustment and ever since i did a joke about it on a special on a netflix special i still can't do it she's like i can't believe you made a joke of it and you still don't do it it's hard to make those uh those adjustments sometimes but you know it's as long as you're trying to make the effort, I guess that's the important thing. That's true. I'm trying. Well, my brain doesn't really work.

The other day, I have a cat named Honey. I had a cat 20 years ago named Mal. And out of the blue, about five days ago, I just kept calling honey Mal. Like the brain started melting down. And then yesterday I found out that they put Mal to sleep yesterday. And I think Mal was psychically reaching out to me through the universe. Damn, how old was that cat? You know, I got the time wrong.

16. The cat was 16. Yeah. That's an old cat. I don't know if that makes you believe in, like, cosmic, you know, like, flying through space. The cat wanting to tell me that it was beginning its next journey. Or I have dementia. It's one or the other.

I just wish this cat could speak. just reach out to you and say something. I know. It did me because we have two new cats now. We have honey and pumpkin. We finally found cats that are hypoallergenic and we love them so much. I think that we've decided that our family's working better. You know, like we've never had that thing we all agree on and now it's the love of the cats like we love the cats more than we love each other but they're like the center of the wheel now well that sounds like a amazing quarantine you've got going on there you probably have like a do you have a lifetime supply of uh lotion what is that lotion that

leslie does the ads for we have so much jergens here we're living on jergens we ran out of uh food and supplies and we're just drinking jergens all day long and then we'll and then we'll eat the caps that's the weird thing that's what it really comes down to we might have to i just keep waiting at one of those commercials for them to cut away to you with a box of tissues and a thing of jerkins. I know. Just in the corner. You know that's the end of that campaign. At some

point, I get pulled into it and I do a filthy joke and jerkins go out of business instantly. Also joining us today, I managed to get two of the stars of the king of staten island which judd directed and is available starting like tonight right judd yeah i think like what i've been told is it's available starting midnight tonight but also in a lot of places,

it'll start appearing around nine. I can't say it's going to hit exactly at nine, but most places like Apple, between nine and 930, it's going to start popping up. It's on a lot of people's, you know, their cable systems have ways to rent movies and Amazon and Vudu and Google. And you just scream like Siri, play the movie and it'll just, it'll just appear somehow.

Okay. Um, uh, it's a, uh, this particular podcast we're doing right now will be also available, uh, tonight at midnight. So anybody listening, just assume that King of Staten Island is ready for you to watch, uh, and, uh watch and do it. Featuring the great and first time guest on this show I'm excited to finally have you on. It's Jessica Curson. Wow.

That was the first applause I've gotten in two months. That's all that's left. That's amazing. And that's the last for probably another two months. Well, one of us might clap at some point. It's something you say or do here today. Oh, great. And I clapped, you know, pretty hard at noticing you in the film.

I saw it last night, and I don't want to spoil anything, so I don't really think we should talk about Jessica's specific scene. Right, Judd? You know, I don't know how your fans feel. I know they're hardcore movie fans. You know, I don't know how your fans feel. I know they're hardcore movie fans. Let's just say that Jessica is in a very loving relationship with Robert Smigel.

They're the Moskowitzes. And we don't want to say they own a pharmacy. That's all I'm going to say is they own a pharmacy and there are complications that sounds about right have you seen it yet jessica i haven't but i know someone who did who is um was blown away by it judd blown away like someone in the business who has made TV shows, made movies, whatever, and just said, literally it's, it's, it's unbelievable. Is it? So John Forsythe, John Forsythe. Do you know that he's already a big fan of it? Have you already heard that? Is it Miller Boyette? Is it the people of Miller Boyette? Miller Boyette? Is it the people of Miller Boyette?

So I was so honored to be asked to be in it. And I love, you know, from what I've heard, I love the way the scene came out and I can't wait. I really can't wait to see the whole thing. Yeah. I'm excited for you to see it. Yeah. You really rock it. Thank you, Judd. Yeah. And another person, another star of the film,

who does a terrific job and has been on this show once before, but also under different odd circumstances. It's Lisa Trager. Hey. So happy. Canceled my COVID test to be here today. Oh, no. No, I'm going tomorrow.

I'm going to go tomorrow. What kind of world are we living in where you cancel the COVID tests to be on today. Oh, no. No, I'm going tomorrow. I'm going to go tomorrow. What kind of world are we living in where you cancel the COVID tests to be on my podcast? No, it's embarrassing how excited I am to be on this podcast. Well, it's always fun to have you.

We did one once in the fishbowl at the Sirius XM. Yeah, and you bent the rules for me because i didn't know any harrison ford movies so i got to say two edward norton movies for every one harrison ford movie and i'm thankful for that it seemed very fair and we'll probably have to arrive at some sort of agreement again here today when we get to the uh now i've been watching movies also not to be crazy i just watched heavyweights for the first time judd i didn't know you were so busy i can't believe

i saw your name on the i couldn't believe it you couldn't believe that in the mid 90s that i made a movie about a summer camp for overweight boys no i was so excited i actually worked at a fat camp but i got fired um because I failed a breathalyzer one morning. Oh, my gosh. Well, that's a funny thing about fat camps is there's a whole world of illicit sale of candy to the kids because most of the kids are very wealthy. Oh, my God. I haven't. Yeah. No, I was taking the stuff away from them. But we also had to make sure they weren't having sex at night, and we would go on nookie patrol. I heard about this as well.

When I researched, I went to a camp, and I heard instantly that there are sex dens, these camps. Yeah. I want to interrupt because this is so interesting right now because I went to fat camp for four years. Which one? I went to Kingsmont in the Berkshires where all of my parents' Jewish friends had houses.

And so I'd have to walk every morning at six in the morning with 300 fat kids next to cows in the pasture. And like my Aunt Sheila would drive by in her mercedes and honk and be like you're doing great jesse and i was like hay on me next to a cow um but i i did i went for four years and it was it was great those kids were so nice we met all those kids when we researched it. Yeah. And there was one kid there, and he goes like, my mom is dating, you know, he goes,

my dad is dating Mariah Carey. She's such a bitch. I always remember that. And by the way, she is not. So shut your mouth. That's true? She's not a bitch? She's the best. She's my favorite. But that made me laugh so hard.

It's like little kid all pissed off. Mariah Carey was dating his dad. I feel as long as she has the lighting she wants, she's in a good mood. I saw her in Vegas, let me tell you. It was everything I wanted it to be um i've got a stat king of satin island question for you judd um how did you arrive at what was the thought process behind having uh characters watching game of thrones at one point um i just

always loved that scene i just wanted to see it was funny. Where Peter Dinklage slaps the guy in the face. I'm a giant Peter Dinklage fan. My wife is doing an animated movie with him right now, which means she's never met him. But we had this idea that, you know, Pete's sister is going to college and the second she leaves, you know it's going to be so awkward

that Pete lives alone with his mom, and that his mom would try to say, are we going to hang out? What's this new relationship going to be? You want to binge a show together? And that's like every young person's nightmare, their mom wanting to watch 70 hours of television with them. So she would ask to watch Game of Thrones and then he would have seen it

already. And it would just be kind of sad and awkward and it would give you a sense of the nightmare that was coming. Yeah. I felt like they were, they were binging it because they were treating it too casually. Like Game of Thrones is a show you've got to really... You can't have a conversation while you're watching it.

That show's also been on for so long. My friend said that in the time of Game of Thrones, she was watching it with her boyfriend. They got married, moved to a different city, and had a baby. And then Game of Thrones ended. Can I tell you, I am not done with it. I'm literally on season four.

And what'll happen is I'll get busy for like six weeks. I try to get back into it. I don't remember who anyone is. I start reading the wiki page. I get lost. I get discouraged. And then I'll come back in, do another year or two, and then it happens again. I've been watching so much TV here.

Is there something standing out Is like a thing you'd recommend For people to watch right now Yes I would say The feel good show of the decade Is RuPaul's Drag Race It is 24 hours a day in our house

24 hours a day Never get shut off I'm not even joking They are acting They're dancing. They are singing. They're funny. They're doing their own makeup.

There's outfits. And I've changed the way I speak. I started using words I've never used before. And then on the drama side, I watched The Americans, which I enjoyed. That's a perfect show. They pulled it off. When you watch the whole thing, I won't give it away. When you get to the end of the last episode,

when that series is over, you turn to your loved one and you go, they fucking pulled it all off. The whole thing. Yeah, it's really incredible. And it's sexy. There's a lot of nudity for a basic cable. A lot of butts.

You know what's depressing? I haven't watched any tv because i'm too like i can't focus isn't that you have too many children is your problem it's not just that i well yeah like yeah you're right that's probably a big part of it but it is hard to like that's what i like about binging tv shows now is that you can, you know, take breaks. You know, you kind of go back and forth between entertainment and reality. You know, you can like look at the news for a little while and get sick of that and then go back to something to escape.

I really liked watching all of Jim Carrey's show Kidding on Showtime. Wait, Judd, would you do celebrity drag race? No, if called upon, I'm always ready to go. Every once in a while I get asked to do things on shows, and there's always a debate in my house about whether or not it's, like, too corny to do it. Like, I'll get asked to be on the bachelor like teaching the ladies to write a joke and i i'll get to ask and i'll be like this is the best day of my life i am

going to be on the bachelor and i'm just so happy and then one, my family's like, you can't be the guy teaching the women. That's so corny, dad. You can't do that. But what I realized is it's not that they think it's corny. It's they think I'm going to ruin the show they love by being a part of it. Like I'm going to soil it because I'm the corny one who will destroy it. And by the way, the corny one who will destroy it. And by the way, The Bachelor with the songwriters totally worked. They pulled it off. Another one.

The Americans and The Bachelor, Listen to Your Heart, totally rocked it. Those are the two most perfect series ever committed to. That's my highest recommendation. I get in big fights with Leslie because she does something that's awful,

which is we'll be watching a show. We'll be hanging out, watching Dead to Me or something. We'll be on episode two, season two. I'll get busy for a day or two. I'll come home, let's watch episode three. She's like, I'm done. Yeah. Screws me.

Doesn't care. Doesn't care at all about the violation of the marriage and how it's supposed to work just blows past me that happens to me too and then do you ever do you ever watch it or do you give up because you have to watch other stuff other stuff with leslie that like she's moving on to other shows. I don't want to move on to something else without you. I haven't seen the third season of almost any show on television. I haven't seen the end

of The Crown yet because of this thing. I haven't seen the last few episodes of Narcos Mexico. Leslie's destroying television for me. Oh, I do want to give another shout out. Bravo is really helping me get through everything too what's on bravo real housewives of potomac i'm catching up on right

now we have a new season of real housewives of new york and beverly hills and there's below deck sailing yacht just ended and below deck mediterranean just started and watch what happens live so you don't hear that's a lot of fun. I don't really love any of that. I just love Danielle Staub. That's the only thing I like. How do you know her? I just, I watched some of that

and I was like, this is the best person ever on television. She's even better than Tony Soprano. And then I was, then any reality show I watched, I'm like, no one's as good as danielle staub i don't know maybe she reminds me of my mom or something but that's that's for me reality perfection yeah no she's nuts if you don't know her she's been she's been like proposed to or married like 22 times she's been to jail she was a prostitute she has a fake name you know she pulled a woman's ponytail this last season i should watch her very familiar

yeah a lot of my partners have been like that well thank you all kids stuff what nothing move on i just can't i just can't handle silences so i just filled it how i could i'm the same I was like, what children's shows are you watching with the babies? Like, who cares? The great thing with Doug is you never know if the pause is because, like, the Zoom has a delay or he's just, like, stoned and there's, like, a half-second delay of his mind.

Yeah, there's always a... Anytime I'm, like, on cable news or something, there's that extra second of delay. It makes it especially awkward. Let me give a compliment to Lisa, if I may. Yes, please. I'm gonna talk about the greatness of both of these women's work in the King of Staten Island.

I asked Lisa to come in to play a waitress at the restaurant where Pete Davidson's character works. And that's always an interesting assignment because I really don't have a script. We're just improvising. We're trying to make the restaurant feel real. character works. And that's always an interesting assignment because I really don't have a script. We're just improvising. We're trying to make the restaurant feel real. We want to, you know, run people through certain moments. It's great if they score. If they don't score, it might get cut out or maybe you don't even need it because you're trying to plow forward in the story. And she

rocked it. She has like a bunch of like great moments. And when we tested it, it got huge laughs. Oh my God, I'm smiling so big right now. Yeah, that's amazing. And it was great. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. And it's funny you say that, because that's on set, that's what I was thinking. I was like, bitch, do not get cut out of this movie.

I was like, you have to slay. You have to bring it, because I knew. People did get cut out of the movie. Gary Goldman, removed from the movie. I was like you have to you have to slay you have to bring it because I knew Gary Goldman removed from the movie whoa you know why because the scene was so long and he was the button joke and he was fantastic

but it was like I can't stay in this scene to have Pete now walk across this classroom to do this next stage of the bit so even though he is one of the greats of all time and i love him see ya is gary golden is he supposed to be is he like a teacher in the movie he was playing like there was a scene where pete drops off well i don't want to give it he's dropping off this child at a preschool, and the teacher asks him to clean the paintbrushes,

and then you overhear Gary having a very annoying conversation about how they're raising their kids and not letting their kids watch TV and all this annoying stuff, and then Pete has an interaction with him. But that's what's hard about these movies, because you never know oh rich voss is in the movie with bonnie mcfarland and they play a a couple that pete has to deal with as a bus boy who are giving him shit they made it they survived they have been great and what is what is

rich voss mispronounced doesn't he say a word wrong? I know he says, he tries to say chicken parmesan. I know he says, he wants his food fast. I know he goes, go get our shit. They're both great. They're both, they're games. Same thing. He blew me away. He They're both... Yeah. And Derek Gaines, same thing. He blew me away. I was...

He's really funny. Yeah. Everyone was great. It was so cool. The cinematographer was so cool. It was just an amazing... Oh, that's funny that you mentioned

Robert... Robert Elswit. I was excited to see his name, Judd, because one of his first movies that he ever DP'd was a movie that I played a bunch of zombies in, Return of the Living Dead Part 2. Judd because one of his first movies that he ever DP'd was a movie that I played a bunch of

zombies in, Return of the Living Dead Part 2. Fantastic! That's so amazing. When I was working on The Cable Guy which is the second movie I worked on I remember me and Ben Sillard met with him because he had shot a great movie called Unlawful Entry

with Kurt Russell and Ray Liotta which was like uh you know like you bond with this uh neighbor who then kind of turns evil on you yeah and and we just didn't hire him and uh I always wanted to work with him he did There Will Be Blood and Boogie Nights and some of the Bourne Identity movies. So the movie was ridiculous. He's done most of the Paul Thomas Anderson movies. He's become this amazing cinematographer. And then the photography in King of Staten Island is great too. But I think the takeaway from this movie,

aside from you, Judd, doing more of a dramatic film and not necessarily every scene is comedic, but also Bill Burr and Pete Davidson, everyone's going to be blown away by their dramatic acting. Yes, yeah. It's really impressive. You know, Pete is a real natural actor.

He's completely unafraid to be very vulnerable and emotional. And Bill, you know, he's playing this blowhard guy, but he's also very sweet and funny and warm and shows all these other dimensions that we all know about Bill, because we know Bill. And he's a fantastic actor. I mean, he really steals every scene he's in. Oh, that's so great.

Yeah. And everybody can watch it tonight on something on something i still haven't seen it i like can't believe it on the apple watch on some sort of like you know the old einstein machine well the lisa apple lisa has it i'm very frustrated because so my parents are 82 and 75 from the soviet union and i'm gonna have to talk them through how to rent this movie on their television through facetime or something so um i'm looking forward to that as well have they ever rented a movie ever we used to go to Blockbuster every week, of course, but they just watch Russian television in the house.

I can get you a VHS. That would be amazing. If you tell them the director is Russian, maybe that'll make them like it. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, they love, yeah, they're going to love it.

Well, thank you all for being here. And this is the part of the show where I say, let the games begin. Here we go. We're going to start with a game called Whose Tagline Is It Anyway? And how that works is, Judd, I'm going to read you a tagline from a motion picture. You know, it's either in the ads or on the poster. And then you get one guess what film it is.

If you miss, then Jessica will have a crack at it. And then Lisa, and it goes on from there. And there's a theme to all of the answers. So when you figure out the theme, it might make it easier to guess the titles. Okay, here we go. Starting with you, Judd, and the tagline, Off the Island Into Your Home. Off the Island Into Your Home. Okay, there's the Madonna movie where she's a castaway. There's the castaway movie with Tom Hanks. There's the Harlem Globetrotters visit Gilligan's Island. I'm going to say.

When they get back, they go into people's homes. It could be club paradise off the island into your home that is a tough one am I close at all Doug am I in any no but those guesses were all fun that was all my guesses

usually people don't have that many guesses they just stammer for a while okay well off the island Yeah. Usually people don't have that many guesses. They just stammer for a while. Okay. Well, off the island to your home. Well, I guess, I guess I have to pass cause I don't,

I don't have it. And that's all I had. So that's, that's perfect. Perfect strategy. Jessica, do you have any idea what this would be the tagline for? Off the island and into your home um well you just punched it up a little bit with that and in between oh there's no end off the island into your home oh my god this is so stressful um no i didn't mean to stress you out no it's okay it's

okay it's just the last thing i needed um uh the boy with the striped pajamas um can i tell you a story about the boy with the striped pajamas? When my daughter was like eight or nine, she went on a sleepover at a friend's house, and the parents showed that to my daughter, Mom. And she was traumatized forever. I'm like, who shows a little kid the boy in the striped pajamas? That is so crazy to me. What kids don't love boys in striped pajamas, though?

It's like, it's made for kids. Yeah. And my cousin showed my other daughter Rent when she was like seven, and she never recovered from that either. Oh, God. Well, I don't know. Fantasy Island? Oh, that's a good guess.

Yeah. Well, that's not what I can tell by the response, but that's my guess. Yeah. Incorrect. Lisa? I'm going to go with, like, is it Kong? Skull Island? Like a King Kong movie?

That is a really, really good guess. You guys all had terrific guesses guesses i wouldn't have figured this one out it's from the most recent it's jurassic world fallen kingdom oh wow i didn't think it would be something so intense with that kind of a tagline into your home like into your home to murder you yeah because don't the dinosaurs just show up at people's houses? Like, they almost are like Mormons, I think. They come back from Jurassic World, and they just start knocking on doors. Jurassic Park.

Isn't Jurassic Park the same thing as Westworld? So Michael Crichton wrote Westworld, the book. And I remember that as a kid with Richard Benjamin and Yul Brynner. And then he wrote Jurassic Park, which is the exact same story as Westworld. It's like nobody noticed. Yeah, it's just like he's just rewriting the, you know, amusement park with robots goes bad. Yeah.

Yeah, basically. My mom went to high school with him. I don't know. It's just trivia. It's just know it's just it's just trivia it's just trivia it's just true it's fun to talk about him because it's pronounced crichton but it doesn't look that way when you see it spelled out yeah um here's the next tagline judd okay they're deserters rebels and thieves but in the nicest way possible they're deserters but in the nicest way possible i should also mention that taglines are often terrible

well not do a good job I have a friend who writes these do you know who used to write these? Dave Allen you know Higgins Boys and Gruber? oh yeah yeah of course Gruber Mr. Rosso he would write these with Steve Banas I love that that's so cool

okay wait wait wait let me think about this deserters rebels and thieves but in the nicest way possible That's so cool. Okay. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Let me think about this. Deserters, rebels, and thieves, but in the nicest way possible. Three Kings? That is correct. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

I looked it up on my phone. I looked it up on my phone. Oh, my God. That's hysterical. I totally cheated. I totally cheated i totally cheated i got i got very uh insecure about the fact that i know nothing and i i did the thing you're not supposed to do and it was a dick move but i admitted it like immediately afterwards and let me tell you something else that's one of the great movies not only do i google it but it's a

movie that like i tell people i've seen i've never seen it. I've never seen that movie. I don't know why I've never seen that movie. Oh, that's so great. Everybody says it's the best movie, and I just never watched it. I don't know why. Sometimes I'll see, it's like in the desert, and it seems dry, and not fun to be in that space. And in my body, I'm just like,

I don't want to be in that desert, in that tent. Yeah. It's definitely, there's, it's definitely, there's a lot of tension throughout the movie. There's always situations that are uncomfortable and people, you know, on the verge of being, you know, killed all the time. So it's, it's pretty intense, but it's my favorite David O. Russell.

I really do like it a lot. I love David O. Russell. I have no reason not to see it other than my fear of the desert. But, okay, my phone is off. I'm in airplane mode. Let's toss that one out. That was for comedy's sake.

I mean, let me do another one that will be fair. Everyone, it felt very real that you – it didn't feel like you cheated. It seemed like you really thought about it, and you figured out the theme theme and you went for it. There's nothing to gain by cheating. That's the terrible part. Yeah, but there's also nothing to win by winning today. So it really all doesn't matter. But we'll go to Jessica for this next one.

Okay. Jessica, are you going to Google it? I mean, if Judd didn't just admit it and say that he did, I probably would, but now I won't because it's. Okay. Yeah. What movie had the tagline, it's no laughing matter. That seems so easy, except I don't.

Oh, that could be so many things. I mean, they probably said that in like 50 movies. Yeah, it seems like a pretty generic line, especially once you know what the movie is. The movie deserves a better line than that, I think. Can you say it one more time? It's no laughing matter. And if Jessica can't get it, then Lisa gets a shot at it.

Can you give me a hint? I'm joking. You don't have to give me a hint. Well, is it a comedy or a drama? Oh, shit. I don't know okay that's that's a fair i could i could like come up with a guess reasonable just to be funny yeah i don't know lisa do you have an idea i'm gonna say patch adams do you have an idea? I'm going to say Patch Adams. Strangely that would work for that.

But no. Judd? I'm going to say Bicentennial Man. We saw that on Christmas as a family and my dad was furious. That's a weird movie by Centennial Man isn't Mark Wahlberg in that I don't know I never thought I think he is I think he's actually in by Centennial Man um

the actual answer is the king of comedy oh God, I never would have thought that. That was a good movie. When it came out, it was right after Ronald Reagan was shot by John Hinckley. And people were very scared of the whole idea of stalkers and assassins and kidnappers. And it got a very chilly reception.

It did nothing in the box office, but I will say this. Maybe you don't even know this doug for me one of my favorite movies of all time and i think one of the most beautifully shot movies uh that scorsese has done and i i always watch that movie as a an example of a shooting style there's a lot of energy and handheld but yet it's very beautiful i don't know if it's michael baal house i don't know that's who i would guess because he did uh you know color of money with scorsese and a few others yeah he passed away recently but he was great yeah love it love it i

love it when they're outside there's a scene where where they're outside. He's fighting with Sandra Bernhardt, Robert De Niro. And for no reason, several members of The Clash are in the crowd listening to them fight and yelling. I always, I always, as an example of how quick fans can turn on people, and especially now that everybody's getting canceled, it makes even more sense. It was ahead of its time. When Jerry Lewis is walking down the street and Selma Diamond is on the phone and she says, Hey, will you come over here and say something to my sister? And he says, no, I'm in a hurry and keeps walking. And then she yells,

I hope you die of cancer. Yeah. Like immediately goes from fan to that uh okay so uh here's the next one and it starts with who was first last time Jessica yes okay okay let me recap what we have so far. Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom, Three Kings, and The King of Comedy. What's this tagline for?

Some people, some called him a hero. Some called him the most dangerous man in america um i i have a guess at that one oh well you don't get to go first this time though it's jessica's turn the king and i no but i like it lisa some call him a. Some called him the most dangerous man in America. Is it Austin Powell?

No. Hold on. Some called him a hero. Some called him the most dangerous man in America. I feel like I know this. I know. Some called him a hero. I know. So cool. Mr. Bean?

No. No? Okay. Am I gotcha? The People vs. Larry Flint? Oh. No, it's The Fisher King. Ah. Never even heard of that.

That was a great movie. Yeah, it's another Robin Williams, actually, and Jeff Bridges. Then why would he be the most dangerous man in America? I don't remember. Like, he was crazy, but i don't know why that would make him so dangerous like it's a really misleading uh tagline that i i don't get it but it's a good movie yeah all right let's do one more and then we'll do a tiebreaker if nobody gets it uh starting with you jessica so far we have fallen kingdom three kings the king of comedy and the fisher king

so what movie had the tagline find your voice well obviously i mean i'm just talking it out so i can take some time here um and obviously the title has the word king in it oh is that why you're saying these? Oh, God. Yes. I know. It took me a second. Oh, God. I mean, believe it or not, that's why I said The King and I. I can't think of another movie with the word

king. Isn't there like a kid movie of some kind? There's a few. There's a, King comes up a lot in titles. Kings of Comedy.

That would be a terrible tagline for Kings of Comedy. Find your voice. They all found their voices. Lisa, do you have an idea? I don't know. I sorry no i was gonna say mr holland's opus because i didn't catch the theme um find your voice the lion king a king a kid in king King Arthur's court. No. Oh, those were good.

The Lion King. Those are both great guesses. But Find Your Voice is a tagline. Kingdom Come? Is that a movie? For what? Kingdom Come? Is that a movie?

It is. I think so. I think they made a movie called that. I think it was based on a comic, maybe. But no, Find Your Voice is the tagline for The King's Speech. Oh. Right? King's Speech.

That movie won Best Picture that year. I liked it. I liked it, but it beat something really good, didn't it? It beat like a, what was the movie? A beat that people were like, what? It's a solid movie, what was the movie? A beat that people would. It's a solid movie, but it, there was definitely a better one that year. Yeah. Yeah. It's always the easy, you know, it's always the movie that everybody can agree, you know, can agree is good instead of just picking one that some people think is great.

The shocking one never wins. Midnight Cowboy never wins. It won though, didn't it? Did it win Best Picture? I think so. I mean, every once in a while Midnight Cowboy wins. You know, guys, I don't know if I told you this, but King of the Silent Island already won the Oscar for Best Picture.

Oh, that's great! Yeah, yeah, it won because there's not gonna be a lot of movies this year, and they were like, we're just gonna choose from what's already been out and then we beat scooby-doo yeah that's it's just it's just scoob or king of saturn island of course it's gonna win everything yeah so we just i feel so bad for all my friends who have kids because they keep having to rent the trolls world and so they're spending so much money on that movie. You know how much, I have watched Frozen 2, 700,000 times. Oh yeah, Frozen is a heavy rotation.

When we first had Maud, right before we found out Leslie was pregnant, I said to Leslie, let's go see Toy Story. And she just had like a chemical reaction against going to see a strange computer animated movie. She's like, I'm not seeing that. I don't want to see it. I really didn't want to see it.

Almost violently against it. I couldn't get her to go. Then we have Maud and two years later, she's watching it three times a day for about eight months. And I would laugh every single time we had to put it back on. Yeah, Isabella's very into Toy Story now. That's a big one here. Iron Giant was in heavy rotation.

That's a good one if you haven't done Iron Giant. Now, do you guys know how long Doug Benson and I have known each other? No. 25 years? Do you know that we were open micers together? Do you know we've known each other for more than 30 years, probably about like 33 or 34 years. Oh, my God.

Yeah. It's crazy. We used to drive to the last stop in uh claremont and there was another one next to that and if you drove really far instead of getting like five minutes you might get like eight minutes so we would do the drives to get to the places that had less people signing up yeah and we just spent a lot of time in the green room at the comedy club in the Valley. What was that called?

Okay, I'm going to blow your mind. It was called the L.A. Cabaret, which was a weird club because there was the improv, and then there was an improv in the Valley in Sherman Oaks in this Hilton Hotel. There was a comedy store, and then there was this club in Encino, which was a very good looking club, but it was booked with a lot of stragglers. A lot of the people who couldn't get in the improv and the comedy store and a lot of people who were stars from the comedy store, like in the seventies. So you would go there and it would be a lot of

like awesome people, but it was just odd lineups. Cause it would be like me, Doug Benson, the unknown comic, uh, you know, Bruce baby man, and it was kind of this awesome, strange place. And the guy that owned it was very nice. A man named Ray Bishop. And that is why, and here we go, get ready, Doug. What is Bill Burr's name in King of Staten Island? It's Ray. It's Ray Bishop.

That's amazing. That is so cool. Yeah. There's no reason for it except that he was the guy that would give us stage time when we really did not deserve it. Yeah. And he was, it was always a kind of a struggling business too. And the other person that we ran around to do open mic nights with was a very young Andy Kindler. Yeah.

Yeah, we've known Andy for a minute too. And I used to say to Andy, my running gag was with Andy when we were very young men, I would just always say to him, Andy, I have to tell you honestly, I don't think you're going to make it. I bet you every time he'd go... And he was so funny. Andy, seriously, I watch a lot of comedy i don't think it's gonna work out for you uh but it did you know his act from day one is talking about

how badly the the performance is going yeah we didn't know that that was the act like back then we actually thought he was having a hard time. We didn't realize it was the beginning of the evolution of his greatness. Alright, we gotta pick a winner today. So I'm going to say one more tagline and the first one of the three of you who can tell me

what movie it's for because I think you'll all know it. It will be the winner today. And I use the term winner very loosely you're slightly better than the other two guests um ready yeah the circle of life lion king lion king lion king oh Who was that that said it first? Jessica? I did.

No, it was Lisa. Hey, this is our winner. You did it. Yes. I'm so excited. Which version of it? The comeback. The animated version or live action?

I have not seen any of the live actions. I am very against them. Really? Yeah, there's no point like cartoons are the best like you're gonna make a not cartoon version of i just it's confusing to me maybe i'll see mulan but i think it's i think favreau john favreau did a good job with uh with lion king i thought and, and Jungle Book. If, if you like, you know, if that's what you want to see is, you know, realistic looking animals talking and singing, but I was disappointed by Jungle Book because they took a lot of the music

out of the original movie. And to me, that's like the most fun part about the, you know, the animated one. But where are you on Dumbo? You know what? I didn't even see dumbo because i thought i'm either going to be bored or cry the whole time also dumbo is like one of the cutest little cartoons in the world and then they just made the creepiest little elephant i don't know i just i don't know the tagline of our movie what What? That's what I was going to ask you. What is the tagline? He's trying his best.

What is the tagline of the King of Staten Island? I'm going to cheat. He's trying his best? No, I'm lying. What's the tagline? Can you give us some choices?

Is it, this kid's on fire? Oh. Is it... I love that you have to make a couple up off the top of your head. Is it no man is an island? Is it this kid's Adulting? Okay, I'll tell you the answer. You know what the answer is?

There is no tagline! No tagline! You know why? Let the title speak for itself. The taglines are always terrible. They're so bad. There's like three good taglines and then all the others

yeah you know in space no one can hear you scream just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water and i can't even think of a third one right now yeah it was a really bad one uh i gotta figure out what it was i'm gonna have to look look it up. For Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Oh, yeah, it's terrible. It's a really bad one. Yeah. Let's see. It's something about dude being awesome or something.

Okay, you ready? Here it is. Yeah. The tagline is, at Ridgemont High, only the rules get busted. Ugh. And that's like a very deep, thoughtful movie. It's very real. It's one of my favorite movies of all time.

It's very grounded. There's another version where it says, hey, bud, let's party. That's all it says. It's a picture of Sean Penn, and it says, hey, bud, let's party. Isn't it funny that that was the beginning of Sean Penn as, like, one of the greatest comedic performances of all time? Yeah, now he doesn't, you know, you can barely see him cracking a smile ever.

Like, Spicoli was so likable, and Sean Penn's, you know, likable isn't his go-to usually. Well, you know, the Falcon and the Snowman. Lisa, Jessica, are you still there? Yes. Let's see if John and I reminisce. What kind of, let's start with Jessica. Jessica

Curzon, what are you up to? Like, where can people see you? I love your Twitter. I retweet your stuff all the time. Wait, are we done with the games? There's no more games? You won. Yeah, you're the winner.

But we don't do the thing where you name an actor and we go in. I can't believe we're done with the games. Well, yeah, you know, we have a. We had 11 followers. We have a, you know, we got to be out of here in a few minutes. That's all the time we have. Can you just give me a quick little game? No, JK, Jessica, where do we find you?

Oh my God, that's so weird. That's my initials. So I have a website, jessicacurson.com, and I'm on Instagram. I put up a ton of silly videos up there every day, which is Jesse Curson. And they, of course, will watch the movie tonight. And I'm just so glad to be here. I'm so grateful. Well, you're so awesome in the movie.

You're so great. Thank you for doing it. Thank you, Judd. And I have a podcast, Relatively Sane. I've heard it. Yeah. Oh, I love it. I'd love for all of you to do it. And you had Gary Gordon on there. I did. Yep. He was great. He was the first one. Who else was cut out of,

who would you say besides Gary was cut out of uh who would you say besides gary was cut out of stat of king of staten island because i'd like to do a a theme episode of douglas movies with people that were all cut out of okay king of staten island uh dan natterman oh oh god he must have freaked out he took that really well i bet there's a There was a funny sequence at a baseball stadium, and there's a halftime, you know, like a little show in between innings where they do a grounders challenge, and they have people, like, try to catch 10 grounders in 30 seconds. And he's the host of it, and he was great.

But due to time and some story considerations, the sequence went away. But, you know, we're big Adamant fans. He was on crashing on HBO, and, you know, we believe in him. That's all I got to say. That's all that matters in the end. Is it one of those things where those guys get credits in the end anyway, or do they not even get credits? I make sure they don't.

I fight pretty hard against them. not even get credit i make sure they don't i fight pretty hard against it it is weird whenever there's a character that's not in the movie but they give them credit anyway because they work because they did the work but it's just confusing well the great thing about gary is you can see him in the background so it's that weird thing we're like oh there's gary gulman and then and they don't talk i think that's always like funny when you know someone got cut out i think we might have done that to jenna fisher in the 40 year old virgin i'm not sure where like you see her uh and then you're like and maybe in the extended version you know we had the whole moment right there's a great i just watched uh sam raimi's drag me to hell again oh my favorite movies it's so good and in the in the bank scenes in the loan office with alison

loman and david paymer is a clearly her role got diminished in the edit uh octavia spencer is like wow you see her, but she doesn't speak. I love those. That's my favorite thing is just weird stuff like that. Like Richard Dreyfuss in The Graduate. I always thought that that was so funny that he has one line in The Graduate. And so in movies, sometimes when we're casting, we put people in because we just believe that they're going to be big one day. And we think it's funny for them to have one line in our movies. that's how i met pete which is we gave him one line in train wreck

because we're like i bet he's gonna be a big star let's give him one line so we could just say we knew before anybody else and and that's how we started talking about working together one of my favorite fun little things like that i learned was glenn close and hook like she plays a bearded man pirate yeah she plays the man pirate that looks like a lady with a beard and mustache it's really weird and they torture her they put her in the what do they call it the giga or something they put her like in a box to torture her it's really weird. I have a question for you, Doug. Yeah. We spent so many

of our formative years together, yet I don't think I have any photos. Did you take any pictures of anything? I don't think I found a flyer recently that we were both on and uh yeah i don't i don't

i was never really you know i have family pictures and stuff but like out in the comedy world hanging out in the at the la cabaret i just i don't remember ever taking any pictures you know we didn't have phones to take pictures. Yeah. So we just didn't do it. Nobody did. We didn't even have the internet. I also remember Igby's. We were at Igby's all the time.

Yeah, I remember going there to see George Carlin work on his set, which was a weird thing because you never saw George Carlin work on a set. He was never anywhere. And they were like he's going to igby's to run the new set and it was really really remarkable um and his set was very very dark and he would bring up subjects and he goes people say this can't be funny and then he would like go i bet you i can make it funny and He started just bringing up every topic that you're not allowed to talk about. I mentioned

that because the next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to do a documentary about George Carlin. Yeah, breaking news. That's awesome. It was just announced today that you're doing that. How much do you know

about how soon we're gonna see it and how long it's i don't know i think it'll be two parts because i feel like the beginning of his uh career uh through like the supreme court case you know where he was uh accused of being obscene on television is a full documentary on its own and And then I think the next run and all the material he did that last five or six years, which at the time people thought was really dark. It's all turned out to be true. It's all pretty prophetic. Everything that he was talking about.

There's an amazing clip online if you go on YouTube. And it's called online American dream that you should just listen to it's just one of the great bits about america it's so it's so on point remember when he did that long interview with john stewart yes i do that was like at the u.s comedy festival yeah i mean uh you know dig that up because that was one of the best, you know, interviews about comedy I've ever seen. Yeah, that was remarkable. Yeah, Carlin

is just, I'm very excited about this and of course all of my guests have the King of Staten Island in your home for your viewing right now. Lisa Trager, what else would you like to plug?

I'm at Glitter Cheese on all the things. And then since I don't have work anymore, I am on Cameo. And I have been putting on lingerie and bikinis. So if you'd like to order a Cameo from me, $20. I love you. I love you. Yeah. So I'm just desperate on the internet. I didn't never use technology before this. I thought I could do standup forever. So I'm trying to make videos on Patreon, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't subject you to it. But if you want to do that, you can do that too. subject you to it but if you want to do that you can do that too okay it's real real strong uh sales there yeah but 20 bucks that's a you know that's a great price on cameo like you

i think you'll get some action i know but i'm also not that popular so last weekend i was like everyone that orders a cameo i'm donating everything to charity and then it was such a not big amount. It was humiliating. I wish I didn't announce it to everybody, but. No, I already gave it. I know I gave it away.

Well, how much is $40 going to buy? Yeah, exactly. It was like 180 bucks. I don't know. That's a lot. Hey,

it's something. Yeah. All of these places in this time though, it's like weird to be jealous that other people can raise more money. But that's how I feel. I'm like, oh, this younger comedian raised this much. It's, like, sick. It's sick.

We don't have, like, other things to be jealous of anymore. So I'm just, like, jealous of people's fundraising abilities. Yeah. Yeah. And just jealous about, you know, I get jealous about everybody that I hear is going back to work and, you know, in some way, you know, people that already had a show and now they can do like kind of a remote version of it. I'm jealous of those people. Like when the pandemic started, it was a bad time to not have something you were already working on. But on that, on that fun note

thank you to all three of you I love the movie and I'm excited that people are going to see it and hope to have you all back on the show sometime soon thank you for having me

thank you for having me on as always a delight to have the cast here. So happy. As always, this is Ripley, last surviving member of this Nostromo, signing off. Yay, bye. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. Eyes of gold, his viewing prowess makes him cocky.

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