Doug Loves Movies - Justin Benson, Mark Ellis and Aaron Moorhead guest

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

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Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming baby, sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see. Because Doug loves movies. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. My name is Doug and I love mornings. This is Doug Loves Movies coming to you once again from a reopening world with another Homes Alone edition. It's Sunday, May 23rd, 2021. And my guests today are returning champ Mark Ellis and two filmmakers that I'm excited to meet and talk to who are very far away at this time. So bless technology. It's Justin Benson

and Aaron Moorhead. Hey, guys. Hey, what's going on? Let's talk to everybody individually and also try to differentiate between everybody's voices. I think Mark sounds the most different of this group, but let's see. Let's start with first-time guest, Justin Benson, No Relation. How's it going, man? It's going good. It feels good to be talking to someone, fellow grossmont college uh so that's so you went to the same uh what do you like to call it junior college yeah i like i prefer junior college over community

college i don't know over community yeah community is weird that just sounds like everybody got together to learn but it's it's from i i remember i had to drive kind of far to get to my community college and you know what's crazy actually i think you and i also went to the same high school well i went to i went to grossmont high school for one year okay yeah i did the full the full thing there um but uh i i loved it i mean looking back on it i'm really like uh whenever i see and hear about what kind of schools i didn't you know i just didn't know other high schools didn't have like they were just flat or like one building like grossmont was such an interesting you know just the geography of it was so strange the way it was just the the layout of it was uh all terrain yeah and all different all different sizes and types of

buildings like you didn't you know every class you went to a different building and sat in a you know a different different shaped room it was really uh it was an interesting place and they had a they had like a full little theater on campus where the drama class was taught and their productions were produced and performed for you know the students and families and stuff uh it was wild like a four-year drama program that's what i went through in high school like so many highs you know obviously it's getting cut more and more these days. But even back then, most schools didn't have that. It was, the three years prior to that, the rest of my high school years,

I was at Helix High School. And Helix High School and Grossmont High School were so wildly different. I felt like I had gone to another country at Grossmont High School. It was wild. And those two schools are on those two schools are like on hills on two sides of a freeway. That is true. Yeah, it's very very very strange but helix felt so far away to me even though you know i live down in alcohol and so going to going to grossman every day it was like literally

uphill climb but then at least going home was mostly downhill so that was fun um we could i could talk about this all day but uh we have to talk to our other guests, who I do not share a name or schools with. Starting with, and sitting next to Justin Benson, it's Aaron Moorhead. Also no relation, I should say. And the two of you are working on a film right now, Aaron. We've been we've been pretty darn busy for the last probably eight months to a year. I mean, obviously, the pandemic slowed everybody down for a bit, but we've been pretty nonstop for the last, the last little bit. So yes, we're,

we're currently hard at work on you know, hiding in a bunker and undisclosed location, making an undisclosed movie. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so it's all a secret. You can't tell us anything about where you are, what you're doing. We can tell you we can tell you a few things about what we've been up to. We, we did make a small movie, um, that we can't get into plot details or anything. Right. I don't think, yeah,

yeah, not quite yet, but we did make a, we did make a feature film while in lockdown. Um, and, uh, we did, uh, and then we've, we're currently working on a few TV shows. Um, we did one in one in Pittsburgh a few months back and, uh, and now we're overseas shooting one. Is that about where are the limits of what else we can say? I mean, that's, you know, that's plenty. And I'm excited you're here just based off of, uh, you know, your past work and the fact that uh you know people have just seen uh synchronic on netflix it went all the way to number one on netflix's movie chart and um

i i liked it very much anthony mackie of course is uh is hot right now so that's a you know terrific timing that he's in your movie and he's so good in it yeah yeah yeah we're very proud to have that performance from him in the movie he's such a such a nice cool guy and uh it was wild actually that thing that happened when it was number one at netflix which probably had a lot to do with Anthony. I don't think that'd be fun. Like another Justin Besson, Aaron Moorhead movie. Oh, what's this movie called? Synchronic. That hits the algorithm.

This random word we made up. It was pretty wild though, the day we found out, because well, first off, we're out of the country. And then the other thing is, okay, Aaron, i get this number wrong sometimes we wrote that movie in 2015 i think that's right yeah we wrote it in 2015 shot it

mostly 2018 i think so yeah we're 19 or 17 i don't remember yeah and then one day you wake up in eastern europe and somehow in 2021 and somehow it's number one on netflix it's very bizarre yeah yeah there's uh the time the amount of time things take and you know how quickly they can suddenly catch on and all it all seems to have happened so quickly when it was really uh a lot went into it my first question for the two of you and I'll get to you in a second, Mr. Ellis is, uh, why does it always say a film from Moorhead and Benson? How did, uh, Aaron get top billing? Cause you know, as a Benson, I know that alphabetically we usually do pretty well. Oh, uh, honestly, it, it, I know that it sounds like I might have taken some kind of front thing, but all it comes down to genuinely is 10 years ago, I won a cage match. And I bit off Justin's left ear and I just won.

I won because of that. And that's it. That's it. So from here on out, just because he's afraid of me, we haven't switched. Well, that's fair. And it's always, even like with these other projects you're doing now, it's always co-directors, but Justin is the writer. Yeah, but the place where it gets tricky is, is like a lot of, I mean,

the movie, for example, the movie we just, we just did, we were writing, directing, producing, acting, and Aaron was cinematographer. I was camera operating. We both edited it with our third editor and like, we have collaborators, not like we're doing everything, but you get into this space of like, well, you got to make credits, but really everyone's doing everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, you you know i guess the precedent has been set by uh the coen brothers you know kind of share some credits but you know some others they take singularly and you know they're happy with the arrangement apparently and uh this seems to be working out great for you guys, but let's quickly say hello to my schmodown friend,

who he can tell you all about it because he's great at talking. Mark Ellis, our champion, is back. Hey, Mark. It is a thrill to be back once again, Doug. And just listening to Justin and Aaron talk makes me exhausted. I don't know how people make movies. I love watching them. I love competing in games that feature movie trivia. I have no idea. I set up my camera and my mic in a hotel room to do this show and I'm exhausted. I'm worn out. I don't know

how these guys do it, but I do agree that Moorhead and Benson sounds more like a filmmaking duo. Benson and Moorhead is a law firm and you don't want to give out that image. So I think that Moorhead and Benson is probably the right way to go. That makes me want to see movies. I actually saw Synchronic. I'm a fan of it. And I have a super hot take for you, Doug, and not just because your two guests happen to be behind that movie i personally enjoy synchronic more than the police album synchronicity which is a scalding hot take but i stand by it damn i have to disagree as the filmmaker of synchronic i think synchronicity is a better piece of entertainment than synchronic itlong. It's a classic album. I'm also going to throw out there that, Mark,

there was another world where you just really came out swinging and you're just like, listening to Justin and Aaron makes me exhausted. And then you stopped talking. I was like, oh man, this is going to be a long, long podcast. Like hearing stories about maybe Aaron biting your ear off 10 years ago in a cage match. I'm like, maybe I don't, maybe I don't throw too many barbs these fellas way just, just yet.

Well, you know, Doug and I are from San Diego, but Aaron's from Florida. You know how they get down. It's just, you know, even if I can't get down, I got a lot of people that know how it's everybody. It's everybody from Virginia. We, we. We just want to be nice to everybody. And I know the big question on all of our listeners lips right now is Mark, tell us about your high school, Doug. It was the flattest high school you could ever go to. It was one story. Yeah, that shit's crazy to me.

One story. It was a Catholic school school so i guess old god doesn't like hiking up the stairs so unlike the brownsville junction motley crew tune smoking in the boys room we had no floor number two to go smoke it what about the roof didn't do the roof so i guess my lungs are healthier as a result of my schooling, my tutelage. Well, Mark, it's great to have you back as the returning champion. And I know that the slowdown that I competed in yesterday hasn't been seen yet by the public. It has not been witnessed by the public. But folks, when I tell you,

if you watch one movie trivia Schmodown match this year, there's probably other ones to watch. But Doug versus Chris VanVleet was such a stunning. It goes down to the wire and then some is all I can reveal right now. But wow, was it fun? It was exciting, but I made, I made some mistakes that are just, you know, will, will haunt me because you got lazy, you got lazy in one, but you recovered. It wasn't even, I don't even know if lazy is the right word for it because I was very confident in my wrong answers. All right. I got a quick thing I want to do with, we play this game on the show.

We're not playing it today, but it's called whose tagline is it anyway, where we discuss the taglines. You know, the game is I say a tagline from a movie and everybody has to guess what movie it's from. And do you guys, how involved as filmmakers are Moorhead and Benson when it comes to like something like the marketing and a tagline that would be like on the poster? Oh man. Oh, you've just opened. I mean, because

we've directed five independent feature films now. And I think especially in independent feature film marketing, you know, they don't have huge budgets and they just need everyone. He's all the help they can get. So they allow us to participate in the marketing pretty heavily. However, that being said, there's been a poster or a tagline or two, maybe internationally that maybe, maybe, maybe it makes you hurt when you look at it.

We'll tell you is there's, it's like playing whack-a-mole with quality control of taste when it, when, once it leaves the domestic side, where it's like, sometimes it'll come out in some foreign country, which is just a blessing to have happened at all. And it'll be like, wow, that's, that's a really cool poster. I never really thought of that. That's a great tagline. And then a lot of the time you will want to die. It is the worst thing you've ever seen. And you had no idea it was happening until it's already on the shelves. And it's just awful yeah indie drama's got a bloody skull and it says cabin of death yeah yeah yeah whatever it is like like there is there is one that i won't name of synchronic that makes that is like the most walmart dvd

bin thing i've ever seen and i just can't believe it happened but it just got it just slipped through the filter somewhere um well so that was that was just a whiskey night you know you see that and you're like it's like you know that's that's where you just start you start licking your wounds well imdb doesn't even acknowledge any taglines for synchronic um you know about that is you can actually choose nobody knows this you can just choose to not have a tagline and a lot of like what's the tagline of like there will be blood i'm not saying synchronic because there'll be blood i'm just thinking like think of like like the movies that aren't like trying to like reel you in with something really quick like i don't i don't know the title's the tagline i think well i think there will be blood wasn't

the tagline my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard that's correct you know i'm wrong and you're right and you just completely disproved my point apologies hey so uh the your movie spring the uh the tagline on the poster is, Love is a monster. That's pretty good, right? That's pretty good. That's a good one. You know who came up with that was Drafthouse Films, who have a heavy hand in Fantastic Fest,

which we've seen you around at. Yeah, I love it. It's a good taste. I love Fantastic Fest. I believe that's where I saw Spring. I love fantastic fest. I think that's, I believe that's where I saw spring. You did, you were at one of those screenings. That's so cool. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Cause I, I, I know I've seen it. So I either, cause that's the thing about fantastic fest.

I like movies that play there. I either see it there or when it shows up, you know, at the art house or somewhere, you know, near me. I remember you hear titles over and over again at that festival that you didn't get to see and so then when they show up later you remember them and and uh and check them out and for the endless i just thought it was interesting that like it did seem like you guys might be behind the taglines of these movies because spring was love is a monster and then the endless is time is a prison i thought it was interesting that there was australian tagline uh and that's going off yeah and that that's just i think a coincidence um i don't know what the american tagline was well i love that i love love never go back or something i

don't think we had anything to do with i mean mean, it's fine. You know, it's a tagline. If whatever gets people see in the movie, you know? Yeah. Well, I thought of, you know, you can use this if you want. I thought of one for synchronic that would be in line with, and I think work perfectly with the other two. Cause you got love as a monster time is a prison. And it's a chronic I think should be drugs are a trip. That's good. Oh my God. I like that dog.

We need to go back in time and change the tagline. Because the original one was just smoke weed instead. Yeah. I mean, I did. It did seem to make me higher watching that movie. But well, how I got to ask you guys before we start playing some games to do our uh weekly visit to recommendation nation that's where each of my guests uh recommends one film that they think people should see or would enjoy seeing and hopefully it's streaming somewhere so that listeners can check it out.

Mark Ellis, you can go first. What's your recommendation? Well, as much as I'm cycling through my favorite taglines of all time, for instance, the Time Cop tagline, she died 10 years ago, there's still time to save her. Awesome. But I'm not sure where Time Cop is time cop is streaming so instead i'm going to point everybody because i tried to go modern last week doug with godzilla versus kong and which i'm sure has a tagline like alien versus predator whoever wins we lose something like that i'm

going back to 1984 and i'm going to cheer everybody up i'm going to put everybody in great spirits because i think possibly the funniest spoof movie ever made, even better than Airplane or Naked Gun, is by the same guys that did that and stars a very young Val Kilmer. And it's called Top Secret. And it is start to finish. The gags all hold up. It is one of the hands down funniest films I've ever seen in my entire life. And it's fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. So it's got everything you want and it's just i i cannot describe this enough to people you see the

cover of it you see a cow wearing boots and that's the most normal thing about the movie i remember when it came out the marketing they really they really leaned into the cow in the boots. Uh, I don't think that necessarily worked, but, uh, but even at the time, you know, people with a sense of humor, like that movie a lot. And of course it's become a cult sensation because of, like you say, the, uh, the gags hold up because they're strangely even less so than airplane and other movies like that. There's, there's less, um, pop culture references. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just it perfect start to finish. It is so damn funny. You know, magnifying glass gags will never go out of style.

Okay. Good recommendation, Mark. Let's go. I like to keep it alphabetical let's go justin what do you think can you recommend a movie right now on the spot from your secret location yeah i'm gonna go with uh kill list written and directed by Ben Wheatley. Can I tell you something that you have in common? You have something in common. You have something in common with Ben Wheatley. What is it? You and Aaron and Ben have all been on Doug Loves Movies. Shut up.

Ben was on it. We met him briefly a few years back at a film festival and we're set we we are it's one of those things where like we're such a kind of overused term fanboy we are big time fanboys of bad wheatley films it was really intimidating meeting him is he intimidating on the podcast because he's really oh my god i mean it is i recommend people go back and maybe we'll pull it out and bring it pop it back up because it's so funny he's on with uh what's the name of the guy who directed the raid gareth uh i'm not gonna guess which one yeah okay yeah yeah yeah gareth he so i was So I was hanging out at the Toronto International Film Festival.

And so I had a comedian friend of mine, Deb DiGiovanni, and I needed a couple other guests. And the festival was helping me find guests. So we got those two directors because one of them was there was Kill List and the other one was there with The Raid. And, you know, The Raid know the one the the raid is you know arguably one of the most violent action movies ever made that guy was like a sweetheart but uh ben who also makes disturbing movies to be sure uh he was he was a bit of a prickly pear because i don't think he likes playing i don't think he likes playing. I don't think he likes playing trivia games. Yeah. I wouldn't want to tell him he's wrong. You just look down and there's a knife in your stomach.

We always have this joke about him, but, but, but, but he's probably a really actually very nice guy. Oh, he was nice. Like he was, he was easier to talk to when we weren't doing when we were on stage in front of the audience doing it, doing it. It just wasn't because Deb was really hyper and, and, you know, she's really silly, fun comic, and she was real high energy. And those two guys were giving nothing. So then it just, it, it just,

it was, it's an interesting episode. I bet. Also it's, it's hard to, I think it's hard to sit next to Gareth and by comparison seem nice because he is just like such a sweet, nice guy. That's a tough one. Also, The Raid 2, I don't understand how that movie, that movie's kind of like Mad Max Fury Road where you're like, this shouldn't exist. People died making this, right? This is insane. Yeah.

It's really wild. Yeah. this is insane it's yeah it's really wild achievement yeah it's like uh but you know to me it was like um you know i love the raid too but it was sort of like they took what was my favorite thing about the raid was how non-stop it was and then they put some stops in but it's still good it's just it doesn't have that you know relentlessness that the, his first movie did, but man, that thing that he did for Netflix apostle. Oh, I didn't catch that yet. Did you say that? It is hella rough. It is like, it is like torture. There's torture. Yeah.

It's got torture and it is torture. All right. Kill list by Ben Wheatley. That's a great pick. It's a really, really disturbing movie. I saw it. It was one of the midnight movies at TIFF when I was there. And it was, it was all fun and games until the movie started. Cause they were batting like a beach balls around at this midnight screening. And then the movie just fuck people's shit up. up oh i would have loved to have been there for that yeah because it's not it's not really fun scary it's just scary well i mean that's that's the

thing it's like it's on that list of like you know it might be like five or six movies from the last decade that is actually frightening like it actually is it's not fun scary it is just scary scary you feel like you weren't supposed to see it we talk about this actually all the time this exact thing that that is kind of like a you know it's a it's pretty armchair fine wine conversation for horror enthusiasts but like for the movie enthusiasts in general that they're the conversation of like, sometimes there's movies that are just scary and it's not fun to watch them unless you're just thrilled by the fact that you're actually frightened. And there's a huge difference between that kind of movie and movies that are out there that is like scary, but it's scary to entertain you. I don't mean horror comedy, but like, like you know it's a piece of populist

entertainment and that's really fun but it's fun and kill list is not fun that is a hard workout you know unless it's on the same list of like the witch hereditary yes you're just like yes i was just gonna say the witch and i was just gonna bring up the films of Ari Aster, because I think they're brilliantly made amazing movies and they just make me incredibly unhappy. Have you seen his short film? I'm going to get it a little wrong, but it's like, there's something about the Johnsons or something like that. I got to listen to him talk about it when he was on Douglas movies. And it does not sound like something I want to watch.

Yeah. You, you, you have to giggle when you hear even like the lightest version of the premise, because it's so messed up that you just can't conceptualize that it turned into a film. It's so messed up. Yeah. That's not your choice, is it? No, that's not my choice. No, no, no, no. Um, uh, mine, mine is, is equally not fun. Um, and it's, uh,

it's walkabout by Nick. Oh my God. Yeah. I just caught it for the first time this year. Uh, that one's streaming on, I think shutter or criterion, one of those, um, or both maybe, but, uh, I was not expect, I wasn't ready for it. I just, I was just kind of looking for something that was like wake and fright, which is one of Justin and his other kind of favorite go-to actually frightening movies. And, uh, and i found walkabout and it's a they might as well be sequels they're they're equally uh disturbing in that same way and uh weirdly like like that gets categorized under ausploitation which you kind of think of as like

low production value and low amounts of thought and it's's just not at all. It's like an art, it's basically a piece of art horror and it's wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Nicholas rogue, you know, it was no stranger to making really messed up creepy movies and you know, just the, the setting and yeah, it's just a very, very memorable movie. And that, and that wake and fright, I'd never seen it. And of course I've seen tons of Ted Koch movies. He's the brilliant director of the very first Rambo, you know, first blood and a wake and fright was one of his first movies that he made

down under. And that has got to say you haven't seen it. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. You have or have I just saw it recently because his daughter is a filmmaker now and she was on those movies. And I just it was a weird coincidence that Wake and Fright was on like Pluto TV. So I had to watch it with commercials, but they didn't cut anything out. And man, that's a crazy ass movie. But if you're a kangaroo lover, by all means stay away there. There is real kangaroo violence in that movie. And it's,

and his daughter told me that it's just, that's, they just captured what really happens. They just filmed real kangaroo hunting, but kangaroo hunting in the movies also just crazy crazy drunken asshole behavior it's it's nuts that that movie will make you stop drinking beer for at least 24 hours yeah it's this kind of wild thing where i'm seeing head coach of going to australia and be like no no but the attack they're like okay so is there like a serial killer that's like killing people in the outback he's like no no the antagonist is beer the antagonist is it's like killing people in the outback? He's like, no, no, the antagonist is beer.

The antagonist is going to stop you from achieving your dreams. You're just going to get too drunk and you'll get stuck in the same place. It's this purgatorial place called the Yabba. And they're just like, so what? And he's like, I'll just put Donald Pleasance in. It's fine. Don't worry about it. We got this.

Yeah. Donald Pleasance is like you hire him to come in and make this nonsensical seem like it makes sense by the way i'm extremely pro kangaroo and i never want to see one getting hurt on screen and that is one of the most disturbing parts of actually both walkabout and um and it's in walkabout as well but it's like an actual aborigine hunt that they show. Right. And, uh, but it is, uh, it it's, it's rough. Those movies are very rough. They are, they are going through a battlefield. It is not like fun to it. They're not enjoyable, you know? Well, we'll see how they do when I put them. Uh, I feel like top secret is going to run away with this one.

Yeah. I got to point out, no cows were harmed in the filming of Top Secret. Yeah, that you know about. There's so many cover-ups. Well, look, if a cow did get hurt, it was probably a Nazi cow, and it deserved it. Nazi cows are like, they're worse than human Nazis because they could really stay out of it so easily.

All right. We have to take our first break and we'll be right back. We're back and it's time for some games. We're going to start with one of my favorites. It's something that we call ABCD's Nuts. my favorites it's something that we call abcd's nuts um a few weeks ago i was trying to remember what james khan famously referred to himself as on the set of elf because i watched that documentary about elf and uh and then i brought up that jim that he got up in front of everybody and said, everybody, I'm Jimmy the dream. And that it just cracked me up. But then I couldn't remember Jimmy the dream when I was talking about it. So the story really had even less of a point to it when I was just like, yeah, James Caan called himself something and it was funny.

of a point to it when i was just like yeah james khan called himself something and it was funny so uh and i guess he did that like just because he was kind of notorious for being hard to work with so he makes a speech to the entire crew at the beginning calling himself jimmy the dream so uh today for this game which is a spelling game. We are going to spell Jimmy the Dream. I'll go to you one at a time. We'll start with Justin and then Mark and then Aaron. Alphabetical again. I'll give you a letter in Jimmy the dream. So the first letter is J. All you got to do is name any movie that begins with the letter J.

But if you're lucky enough to figure out the theme and you can figure out what movie I wrote down in advance and you match me, then you win the game automatically. But all you have to do to stay in the game is name any movie that begins with that letter. This, this game is insane. What is going on? Jay is the letter and you say Jurassic park. And I wrote down, of course you can't know a theme yet.

So going first isn't necessarily beneficial, but I wrote down journey of course, you can't know a theme yet. So going first isn't necessarily beneficial. But I wrote down Journey to Shiloh. Journey to Shiloh. Hmm. What does that mean? All right. So the next letter is I.

And we go to Mark. Any movie that begins with the letter I or one that you think fits in a theme with Journey to Shiloh. With Journey to Shiloh. Journey to Shiloh. Yeah. I will say, I mean, I just hear journey. So I'm going to go into the wild. No, that's not it. But you got the, you got the very first two letters, right? I went with the movie called in the shadows.

Okay. The next letter is M to Aaron. I'm going to just, yes, Aaron. Yes. I'm going to apologize. Cause I just don't, I'm not familiar with those movies, so I, I can't even slightly guess the theme. So I'm going to go with master and commander. Cause I like it. Oh, far side of the world yeah yeah well there's only

one unfortunately there should be 20 by now but there's one so yeah oh you think that movie could have sequels i think that movie should have sequels because i know that there's a giant book series because i buy my dad one of those books every year for Christmas. What if, uh, what, you know, what if you try to get another one going? Is that something you'd like to do? Yeah. Yeah. That's, that would be pretty amazing as long as they let us do whatever Peter Weir did. Like, that's what I was going to say. That could be the secret movie that they're working on right now that they

can't talk about. Yeah. Wouldn't it be crazy? Wouldn't that just be the craziest thing? Like, wow. I would totally like that. That would totally, that would be crazy. I mean, it doesn't sound like you're at sea. All right. Where are we at? Oh, I have to say what I, what I put down for him. Yeah. Yeah. Mickey blue eyes. Now we have another M.

So we go back around to the start. We started with Justin. So what do you think for the second M? I will go with Magnolia. Love that. Love that movie. But no, I wrote down middleman. Middleman.

Now, here's an interesting twist in this game. This rarely happens, but once in a while, you just can't fit a square peg into a triangle hole. We have to skip the letter Y. I'll explain why after the game. So we're up to T now, the T from The and Jimmy the Dream. And next up is Mark. Okay.

Can I say movies that have The as the T? Does that count? It does count. And I tend to not put those, you know, in that position, but it could happen and it does count. Okay. Cause I think, I think I smell what the theme is. So I'm going to say the Godfather. I went with a movie called T.R. Baskin. Hmm. H is the next letter for uh

aaron uh i think i'm i think i'm also caught wise to the theme and i'm gonna go with howard the duck incorrect i'd like to know how that fits i was kidding i have not good i'm glad it just makes us sound smart when we act like we think we know what's going on yeah i really am sorry i called you on that uh i wrote down harry and walter go to new york and the next letter is e for that goes back to Justin I'm going with Evil Dead 2 I like it El Dorado D Mark it all came together perfectly for you

oh boy I'm just trying to think of what that theme could be so i'll just try to stay in the game with the forgettable james bond movie diet another day that's a james bond movie it's one of the pierce rousden ones i think a car disappears at one point no i i believed you that was my joke uh r is the next letter oh god i thought it was what's the name what's the name we're trying to spell again jimmy the jimmy the dream dream got it okay and i'm on r um oh man i i for some reason prepped something else so i'm not on r we got off on the letters when i had to skip one name literally any movie that starts with r please help me guys

oh there's so many i know that's the, you know, oh, it was just trending because... Return of the Jedi. There we go. Oh, there you go. The easiest thing in the world. Okay. I went with rollerball. Very similar. Yeah. E is the next letter.

I'm very similar. Yeah. E is the next letter. As it's the first roll of all, not the reboot. E for Mark. Is it back to me? Oh,

whose turn is it? I think it's Justin or Aaron, I believe. Thanks, Mark. It's not me. Yeah. I just whiffed on on R I will go with X Machina Eraser

A for Mark now it's Mark yeah and I'm thoroughly confused as to what the theme would be so I will take the critically acclaimed A film Amadeus. I went with the bridge too far. Mark, I want to talk about Amadeus for a while.

I love that film. It's so great. Let's say that Amadeus is in theme for a little bit because I really love that movie. That's one of those perfect movies, I think. So. I think that Milos Schworman is close to being one of the most perfect directors. Yeah. He's got a, he's got a damn, damn fine record. Yeah. He really knocked it out.

I'm going to sit on the desk then, because I was this close to going with adventures and babysitting. And I just thought, well, let's try to sound smart. Also, also a perfect movie. Thank you. Probably one of the best of all the Thor movies. I was going to say, Vincent D'Onofrio is my Thor. A Bridge Too Far is what I went with for the A.

And now we're down to the M. And Aaron, you get to name. I'm going to give you an option here. Master and commander again? No. Would you like me to tell you the theme, and then you get to guess and you get to have a hollow victory? Or do you just want to play it out it doesn't really

matter the winner of this game they all they win is they get to go first in the next game doug i'm going to be honest with you there is absolutely no chance of me getting winning this game um so i'm going to just name another movie that's what i have to do like there's just no chance i understand so i'm gonna just say mall rats another great choice uh i personally that's my favorite kevin smith movie but uh i think it's the only one that has michael roker in it Mr. Ellis he did not match me but for fun and of course for fun for everybody

anybody can say it these are all films that feature Mr. James Caan, Jimmy the Dream himself and the last letter is M who wants to say it Master and Commander made so he did have an

uncredited cameo in that, but that's not what I wrote down. Wait, wasn't he in Christopher McQuarrie's first movie, Way of the Gun? No, that's not M. I'm just... Was James Kahn was in that?

I think he was. I think he played one of the bad men. I think he was. There's like a scene between him and Benicio Del Toro sitting in the bar in that little place in Mexico where they have the shootout. My head, unless I'm confusing it with someone else. It's not James. No, it might be him. Yeah. So nobody's got a guess on a movie that stars James Caan that begins with the letter M.

I can't think of anything that james conn is in that starts with m um i'm gonna go with the mod father i will say that he's been in over 100 movies and he none of them begin with the letter Y. Isn't that weird? Google just beat me. I just checked it and I know what it is now. Don't Google anything. Because you've already made it. Now all the listeners think that you can just Google shit through all the games. They already know this.

Yeah, I can't think of any James Caan movie that starts with M. Look, we all know his career peaked with the classic tv movie brian's song um i mean he's it's this movie has one of the top 10 horror movie uh moments of all time maybe top five someone want the actress in the scene won an Best Actress. Stephen King wrote it. Misery. Misery. Yeah.

Yeah, misery. There we go. There we go. There it is. Great job, you guys. Really? No winner officially, so we'll just play the next game. We'll play the next game with, you know, we'll do the same thing.

We'll go alphabetical and we'll do that after this break. We'll be right back. We are back after a devastating round of ABCD's nuts. I mean mean i know i don't follow the career of james con that closely so a lot of those movies were uh were new to me as well so no reason to feel bad at all and everybody's got such a great chance in this next game and i'm so excited to be playing it with you guys because it's time for the feud it's filmily feud very similar to family feud but all of the questions are movie related and like i said we'll go alphabetically so justin gets to go first in the first round. And you'll each get to go first once.

The tiebreaker is available if necessary. Here we go. Like, each of you will have to give an answer, but Justin gets to go first. We polled 100 people and asked them the following question. and ask them the following question. If you had to marry one of the films from the Scream series, which one would it be? Of course, there's been four movies in the Scream series, one, two, three, and four. Justin, you get to pick first.

Which one do you think, when we've pulled 100 people, do you think most we've pulled 100 people do you think most of them would marry if they could marry a motion picture and it was a screen film well I think the poll the polls would show that everyone wants to marry a screen one yeah I personally would marry a screen four because people just don't know a lot about it. It's kind of mysterious. I didn't even know it existed. So there's something about that. Just because I'm sitting next to you, I get to contribute to that because I agree completely with what you just said, but also Scream 4 is the only one that I saw in the theaters, weirdly enough, because I was too

young. I was too young for Scream 1 or i think maybe even two and three and uh so i've seen scream for in an actual theatrical environment and it was a meta movie uh of the meta movie of all of them so yeah i i don't know anyway sorry that wasn't the question sorry just all right so so but justin needs to guess he gets to go first and he needs to guess. He gets to go first, and he needs to guess which of those four did best in the poll. I think Scream 1 did best. And if it wasn't Scream 1, it was 2. Okay, well, you just need to pick one, and that will be your answer, and you can't change it. Scream 1.

Okay. Mark? I would marry Scream 3 because I know it won't cheat on me but i am gonna say scream one as well what is this hollywood squares with the joke answer and then the real answer in the out square today doug yeah uh and then uh aaron what do you think if we're going with the polls i'm gonna go scream one uh well yeah but you don't get to go with screen one because justin picked screen one what the what wait hang on hang on there's you guys have the same last name and you're like oh it's all alphabetical but actually it happens to be the same last name i don't want to go with scream two or three i'll go you know what i'll rep i'll rep

four and i'll be wrong i'm sorry i won't be wrong i will be i will lose but i will be right possibly yes you might possibly lose so uh to recap justin has scream one. Mark has scream three. And Aaron has scream four. So that means that, Mark, you get the percentage in points and 4 percent four percent pick number three uh hang on you guys you still you still got a fighting chance here uh and then um the number three film in the screen franchise uh got uh wait a second mark's at number three number four got seven percent so that's what aaron gets is seven points number two got nine percent that's that's the second highest of all but as you can imagine as everybody predicted 80 of the people polled picked scream one as the one that they want to have in their

life until death do they part so that means justin gets a whopping 80 points is way out in the lead but as uh mark ellis knows because he calls a lot of these kind of competitions As Mark Ellis knows, because he calls a lot of these kind of competitions, still anything could happen. That's true. It's anybody's game. And Mark Ellis gets to go first in this round. Mark, we asked 100 people, if you had to marry one of the films from the scary movie series,

excluding the first one, two, three, four, or five, which one would you marry? That's a great question. Um, and the guy who said top secret for his movie rec is going to go with, I think scary movie three was, was the best of that franchise. So I'm going to go, I I think Scary Movie 3 was the best of that franchise. I'm sticking with the threes. Okay, Mark's going with three. Aaron, you get to pick next.

Which one do you think? Between two, four, or five? I'm going to rep two because I think people, well, I think they were very ready for scary movie one, but I, but I didn't think they knew how ready and, and two was their chance to find out. Yeah. I mean, the, the first two movies were really similar and then it sort of went, you know, went the way of the Zucker for the rest of it on three,

four, five. But although i think five did some of the people from the first one come back or something i think five didn't have an affairs anyway um so what does that leave for uh justin either either four or five which of those you think justin four or five. Which of those do you think, Justin? Four or five? You know, I'm going to go with Scary Movie 4. Okay. What's wrong with 5? There's nothing wrong with 5. You know, interesting fact.

I'm sure everyone knows this. But when Scream was sold, the Kevinvin williamson script originally it was called scary movie so technically i could say scream one again well it's funny they're just now you know making scream five and it's so funny to me that there's already five scary movies. Like the movie that set out to parody the movie that was a parody has more, more, you know, now they're neck and neck. Now they both have five. So I guess scary movie has to get to work and make another one. Turns out four and five, both only got 8% of the, the vote. So Justin only picks up eight points for part five.

But coming in at number two in the poll is number three. So Mark picks up 32% or 32 points. Okay. And the big winner this round is Aaron who picked number two and scored a whopping 52%. I do

want that on my gravestone. 52% Scary Movie 2 and that's the only thing I want on there. I'm just here representing for Grossmont College. I'm going to pull this victory through for grossmont college it was it was a really really really good poll and i'm sure all all grossmontians are very all the foothillers that was our mascot the foothiller so the guy was just had just a big paper mache head that had like a uh some sort of like like David Crockett hat on it or something.

Um, and I never knew what, I still don't really know what a foothiller is. Did you just make that up and then immediately? No, it's the, we were the fighting foothillers, but I don't know what a foothiller, I guess it's just somebody else to, you know, that was, that was your school nickname. That was foothillers. Grossmont high school was your school nickname? The Foothillers? Grossmont High School was the fighting Foothillers, which I guess just was because it's kind of the schools on the side of the hill.

So I guess that's why they came up with that. Were they like in a school board meeting and they're just like all shrugged their shoulders? They're like, I guess we can't do better than that. Like, we're done. I don't know how you know mascots are chosen in very very secret ceremonies you know i mean like gritty doesn't happen out in public it's uh or the one side guy the philly fanatic he was he was a bunch of people who got together and created him in secret.

What is happening? We've got a really exciting game here. Justin's still in the lead with 88 points, but Aaron is not far behind with 59. And our returning champion, Mark Ellis, has 36. And Aaron gets to go first in this third round. Aaron, which dude from the movie Fast Five, part of the Fast and Furious franchise, but from that particular film,

which dude gives the best hand jobs? And I'll give you three to choose from. Vin Diesel, Dwayne Johnson, or Tyrese Gibson? Man, I have no idea how to answer this. I didn't bring up Christopher, Chris Bridges in this poll because I hear his handjobs are ludicrous. Is it the character?

Their character? The poll, all I did was list the actors' names. I don't know how if the poll were presented to me, I wouldn't know how to even begin to choose. I think all of them have very powerful grips. I don't, I don't know any of these kind of gentlemen in real life.

So I'm going to go with their character and I would say Luke Hobbs. Oh, so that's, that's Dwayne Johnson. Played by Dwayne the rock johnson okay uh moving on to uh justin gets to go next right yeah i i have to go with vin diesel you have to yeah yeah it's it was it was kind of weird sitting next to him like he got such a look of conviction in his face as soon as you asked the question and i whispered i said like vin right and he's like he's like i need i don't you dare like under that tough exterior there's such a big heart and he's got that sultry voice but the thing is like you don't even need to dig deep

for dwayne he's right there well that's why i think it's just that that's why it's one of those things it's like i don't know it's just too obvious like i think that maybe he's the most present man i've ever really surprising very surprising okay i really appreciate the amount of the discussion. I appreciate you guys taking it seriously. And Mark, how are you feeling? All right. With being getting left with Tyrese. I'm feeling great with being left with Tyrese though, because, you know, I'm thinking in terms of who do I want a hand job from? And if you had the biggest muscles on earth,

I don't necessarily want you tugging down there. I want you to be a little, I want some tenderness. I want some, I want, athleticism is fine, but I don't need big bulky dudes with huge biceps giving me the rub and tug. So Tyrese, I think would actually give the best hand job. Mark, I'm sorry, but like, what, like, do you think that they're incapable of love? What's up? I just feel like they live their life a quarter tug at a time and they're going to leave

you stranded. I got you. I will say, you know, when it comes to, when it comes to Vin, I don't, I don't think Vin's great at that because, you know, his family is so important to him and you don't really, it's not a lot of that going on when your whole family's around. Family's everything. That's true. That's completely accurate. Yeah. Yeah. They did. Beck Bennett did a very funny Vin Diesel last night on SNL, where he just kept talking about how the movies are coming back, but he just kept saying, movies.

Okay, so very exciting finish. Thank you all for being such strong and willing competitors. And it turns out that the poll that I took on Twitter resulted in Dwayne Johnson coming in third place of these three gentlemen with only 26%. No. It's true. That's what happened. I've got the receipts.

Coming in second place with 30% is Vin Diesel. And that leaves a whopping 44% for Tyrese Gibson, but that is not enough for Mark to overcome his earlier, I wouldn't say failings, it wasn't his fault, but Justin is, in spite of the fact that it feels like we're cheating because we have the same last name and we're both foothillers sure feels like that justin is our winner today congratulations justin that was that was so fun congratulations justin your first time on the show and now you're a champion

i know you guys can't say anything more about you know what you're working on right now but when will you be you know like when will you return to civilization like when will you go back what's that uh we're we're we're thinking we return somewhere around october oh man wow okay so you're just in some exotic location making cool shit and you'll be uh home in september do you say when? September? October? We can't say much more, but we can say that gravity doesn't work the same way around here, if you know what I mean.

Oh my God, these guys went into space, everybody. That's a good tagline, too. Gravity doesn't work around here. What a great connection we have, too. Hey, Doug, when are we going back to Fantastic Fest? When's it going to happen? Well, that's what they're saying is September.

So if you guys are still in space, you won't be able to go. But they're doing it. Oh, we might. We might just. We'll figure that one out. No, I'm serious. Like if Fantastic Fest is on, we're. If it's on and we can, we're there.

Oh, yeah, it's on September 23rd to the 30th. Well, maybe October comes a little early. Okay. Well, then I will see you there. Maybe you could be guests on Doug and those movies at Fantastic Fest. That would be amazing. I mean, I don't want to

get ahead of ourselves here. Get you too excited. I was listening. You had Cargill on. You had our boy Cargill. dungeon master yeah he's great he's been on the show he was on the uh uh you know the last show we did where people were together in person but we were socially distancing we were like in a bar and we were me and my guests were all six feet apart from each other and uh in austin and uh yeah he's great and uh love having him on the show and uh yeah he's one of those i mean fantastic fest is just crawling with filmmakers and filmmakers have the craziest taste in movies of anybody i've ever met so it's always just a free for all what, you know,

the craziest shit can play at that festival. And there'll be somebody that's quite the champion of it. And that's part of the fun. Actually, I'm sorry. I'm, I'm kind of imagining six people. You said six people spread throughout about, Oh no, no people, six feet apart. That's what it was. They're, they're, they're spread apart in a bar trying to record a podcast. what it was. They're, they're, they're spread apart in a bar trying to record a podcast.

And I just want to shout out to Ryan, uh, for making that not sound like absolute trash. Everyone's screaming at each other into a central mic or having their own mic and it doesn't echo. That sounds impossible. So that's really cool. That actually sounds like a, on a technical level, a spectacular achievement. Yeah, it was all right. Was it all right? Let's do some plugs for Mr. Ellis. What do you got coming up, buddy? I got the, the Schmodown featuring Doug Benson and one of the scintillating matches that's coming up. The podcast Rotten Tomatoes is wrong.

Some stand up tour dates. And look, I'm just I think what I'm going to do, Doug, for the rest of the day, I'm going to take some synchronic and I'm going to go back in time and I'm going to say scream one. Yeah, I think I think I always wonder in time travel movies, they're always going through time to do something important. But why not go back and try to win a trivia contest and on a podcast yeah i i'm interested to see what butterfly effect is going to emerge if i go back one hour

i am a big fan of the movie and i can't wait to check out the rest of y'all's filmography so it's been a lot of fun being on the show with you, Justin, and you, Aaron. So thank you all. Thanks, man. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you to everybody. I'll be at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles with the Will You Accept This Rose podcast

crew on Friday, June 4th. So you can see that show in person if you're in LA or it'll also be broadcast virtually. So, you know, just type in any of what I just said into your Google or whatever, and you should be able to find it. Thank you once again to my guests, Justin Benson, Aaron Moorhead, a.k.a. Moorhead and Benson, and Mr. Mark Ellis. As always, Don Corleone.