Doug Loves Movies - Leonard Maltin, Matt Mira, and Clare Kramer Guest

Episode Date: July 16, 2013

Live from the American Comedy Company in San Diego, Doug welcomes Leonard Maltin, Matt Mira, and Clare Kramer to the show.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privac...y Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming babies, sticky seeds With 50 acid popcorn kernels in his teeth There's still not one that he won't see Cause Doug loves movies Hey everybody! Hey, everybody. My name is Doug, and I love movies. We love movies! White people.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Once again, coming to you from Preview Night at Comic-Con in Sweet Home San Diego. This time we're at the American Comedy Company, a place that does not allow foreign comedy to happen. Let me see your name tag, San Diego. Whoa! Wow, is that... What's that tank? What's that supposed to be? That's me firing J.J. Abrams out of the tank.
Starting point is 00:01:14 That's you firing J.J. Abrams' face out of a tank. Yeah. Because your name is J.J. Well, we have the same initials, so it's an Abrams tank of JJs. What? I don't have time for that shit. I'm Lisa, and I'm an emetophobe.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Well, good for you. Have you seen Pitch Perfect? Because it is crazy how much vomiting there is in that movie. I saw it again recently, and I was like, poor emetophobes. And I saw your thing on, what do you call it, on Twitter. What do you call this down here, though?
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's like, what are they called? Perler beads? All right. You made a weird bearded man and a heart and a camera. No, I know it's me, but... Looks more like Grizzly Adams. Oh, and there's a bunch of pearlers inside the bag. And an explanation?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Leonard Maltin game categories. Is this just a bunch of suggestions you're making? I don't tweet. Because you don't tweet. Well, I'm sorry. That means you can't participate. Who would I give credit to for these? You didn't write your name or anything on here. Maybe I'll take a picture.
Starting point is 00:02:31 All right. Well, thank you for bringing this. So I'll give this away at a future show. Because the stuff we have to give away tonight is fantastic. And there's no reason to add to it at this point. Elizabeth, I've seen you before, haven't I? No? Maybe? Someone's done the Elizabeth thing before.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You know, there's other people named Elizabeth. And what's that deflated oh, it's a helmet. It's just your motorcycle helmet and you wrote Matt on a white piece of paper and taped it to it. You should, did you ride your motorcycle here? Yeah, I would like you to keep that on
Starting point is 00:03:12 so that when people pass you in traffic, they'll be like, why do we need to know his name? How could we possibly steal that helmet? It's on his head. And then that's your lady sitting there next to you with her helmet? I'm not very original. You're not very original. Alright. That's fair. Well, there's a lot of name tags and I appreciate you guys bringing them. There's a flashing thing over there that looks like Space Invaders. Is that what that's supposed to be?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Jonner. It's what? Jonner. Jonner? I don't know what that means. This is starting out weird already. One of the things I love about the American Comedy Company is that they chose the word company instead of club. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's kind of weird. But also, the green room door is right next to the stage. And so to get back to the green room, all of my guests have to walk through the audience. So did you guys see who the guests are already? Some of you did. Some of you didn't. Okay, good. So it'll be a surprise for some people. And even if it's not a surprise, I'm sure you'll be delighted. I got a few couple pieces of business. Thanks again for bringing the name tags. And since last I spoke and you listened, I came down with a summer cold. So apologies in advance if I have a coughing fit
Starting point is 00:04:33 at some point during the proceedings. I feel pretty good right now. And I've got cough drops in my pocket. And I'm happy to see you guys. Hey, Traverse City, Michigan. Douglas Movies is coming to the Traverse City Film Festival on July 31st, and Michael Moore is going to be on the panel
Starting point is 00:04:51 because it's his festival, so I got to have him on. Thank you to everyone. Yeah, my dad. Thank you to everyone who purchased the Super Tournament of Championships on iTunes and for not putting any spoilers on the internet. I haven't seen any yet.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And so if you haven't purchased that yet, it's $1.99. And we made it to number 16 on iTunes on the music chart. Yeah. I've been tweeting all day, take that, Kanye. Fuck you, Daft Punk. Suck it, Selena Gomez. That third one was more of a request than a... From the corrections department,
Starting point is 00:05:38 I recently challenged someone to name a good Ryan Reynolds movie. And since that happened in Minneapolis, I've actually, I thought of some. And I would like to say that I like the movie Waiting when it comes on cable. I watch it. It makes me never want to eat in a restaurant again because of the disgusting things they do in the kitchen. And then I also love the Ryan Reynolds movie Just Friends. Right? I think that movie's really funny.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So apologies to Ryan Reynolds, an actor who I like. But sometimes he doesn't, you know, you can't always, you can't choose the best movies necessarily. I'm talking about R.I.P.D., for example. I'm talking about RIPD, for example. There it is. I'm starting to cough. The prize bag. Let's get to it. There is so much stuff in here.
Starting point is 00:06:45 It's really heavy. Why do you have your hands on your face like that? You're really excited about this prize bag? Let me see your name tag. Do you have a good one? Let me see it. Oh, that is a good one. What does it say?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Katie got fingered. That movie would have made a lot more money than Freddy got fingered. That movie would have made a lot more money than than Freddy got fingered. I don't even think you're allowed to say that about a lady. Because you can say that about Freddy. Yeah, he got fingered. No one from Doctor Who is here, I should say, but here's
Starting point is 00:07:19 Series 7, Part 1. Yeah, there's lots of BBC stuff in this bag. yeah there's lots of uh lots of bbc stuff in this bag and some uh lots of fun like uh what do you call it a comic-con kind of things i brought yet another bane mask i'm not gonna put it on though because well because it's it's it's it's not it's uncomfortable it really makes me feel sad for uh tom hardy i mean i'm sure his mutt wasn't as rubbery as this one um there's a copy of gateway doug and let's just get the guests out here and just discuss all this stuff that's in here. You know, Comic-Con's starting tonight,
Starting point is 00:08:08 and so I, you know, scoured the... My friend Scott Aukerman's doing a show one block away at House of Blues, so thank you for coming to this show. And... But you'll get to listen to
Starting point is 00:08:23 his show later, and people that went to his show will get to listen to his show later, and people that went to his show will get to listen to mine later, if that's the sort of thing they're into. But I think I still did a terrific job of getting some of the best guests possible. Please welcome Matt Myra, Claire Kramer, and Leonard Maltin. Thank you. Maltin. Wow is right. Can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Claire Kramer, everybody. You know her from one of my favorite movies, Bring It On. It's true. And my absolute, almost probably favoriteest TV show
Starting point is 00:09:21 of all time. She played Glory on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Nerd. And you're here for the whole Comic-Con? You've got like a booth and stuff? I'm here for the duration. And what are you doing over at that booth over there?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Oh my gosh. Well, we actually have a booth for Geek Nation, which is a company i launched a year ago and so we're just like you know we're actually podcasting from the booth we've got guests coming all weekend and a lot of swag to give away so everybody should stop by if they have a chance what's the um what's the booth number i know there's thousands of booths over there easy way to remember it i'm not gonna tell you the booth number? I know there's thousands of booths over there. I'm going to tell you an easy way to remember it. I'm not going to tell you the booth number because nobody remembers those anyway. It's across from the Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Oh, okay. Go to the big tall prison and then come across the way. Alright. We're not biters. Yeah, we're not biters. I have two. Well, thank you for being here. I really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And Matt Meyer is here, you for being here. I really appreciate it. And Matt Myra is here, you guys. Hello. That's right, guys. From BBC America to your hearts. Yeah, your BBC America connection got you quite a lot of swag. I just pick up the phone. I say, listen, it's Matt Myra. They go, who?
Starting point is 00:10:46 And I go, the guy that's on that show that's after Orphan Black. And they go, what? The show after the show after Doctor Who. And they go, oh, Matt. And then I say, send stuff. And they do. So there you go. Yeah, you brought a Doctor Who
Starting point is 00:11:01 TARDIS ceramic money bank. Yep. I would like to point out that fits Canadian, UK, and American currency. Yeah, and Australian, too. Oh, forgot about them. UK, Australian, and US coins. Fits all. It's great.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Because, you know, some countries have crazy big coins that don't fit into a... And also, it's for eight and up. Yeah, because if you're under eight, you might put the coins in the wrong... I think it's too soon to trust them with money. Well, that's reasonable. Yeah. And Darth Vader and Son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah, right? An adorable book. It's adorable. They gave me two of that. I already had a Dr. Who bank and yeah. Yeah. Star Wars cookbook.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. And included our ice sabers. You can make 30 chilled treats. Right. That's nice. I've been to Skywalker Ranch too, guys. This is turning into a...
Starting point is 00:12:17 Oh, on the back? May the force of your freezer be with you. And then they've photoshopped or something as Chewbacca with two giant... What they don't tell you
Starting point is 00:12:31 is watching it freeze is more interesting than the last three movies. And I will never be invited back. I've got a really interesting version of Jenga going on over here.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Piling all this stuff up. And then Leonard Maltin is here, you guys. Yeah! Longtime listener, frequent guest, and you brought not only a copy of Leonard Maltin's 2013 movie guide, but also, this is pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:13:08 This is not available in any store that I'm aware of. But do Australian coins fit in it? This is, Leonard wrote a book called Of Mice and Magic about Mickey Mouse. What? But this is... It's history of American animated cartoons from the studio era, from the silent film era.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Oh, yeah, Popeye's on the back there. And it's just been translated into Japanese. So... They sent me these... A box full of these lovely hardcover books. That's cool. It's all in Japanese, if you please. I cannot read or translate a single word in this volume,
Starting point is 00:13:48 though I wrote it. But there it is. Why do I have the urge to want that? I don't understand. I want it to. I want it to. It's natural. Makes a great doorstop.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Don't underestimate that. Is it warm in here? It's super warm in here. Okay, because I'm going to... Yeah. Oh, it's the lights. Thank you. It's my first day in show business.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Nobody warned me. Oh, my God. Nobody warned me about the lights. Doug, would you look at Leonard's T-shirt? Oh, my goodness. I was wondering why it's my first day in show business got a round of applause. Leonard is sporting a Douglas Movies T-shirt
Starting point is 00:14:34 that I don't think you got from me. You bought it on the internet, right? No, no, no. This is illegally purchased online. Love it. Looking good. But you also did mean that it's hot in here. Or were you just saying that
Starting point is 00:14:47 to pull your shirt open Superman style? That's kind of a faux show business cue for a cheap side gag. But I've been sitting up here thinking, wow, it's hot up here. And I'm just in a t-shirt, so
Starting point is 00:15:05 yeah, you can take the top shirt off if you want. Artfully drape it over my lap or something like that. I feel like I should do the same thing. What do you got on under there? I don't know. What do I have on?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Legendary. Free shirt. I don't know if you guys know, Nerdist got bought by Legendary. So they got me a free shirt. That's it. That's all I got. Chris got a jaguar. I got a t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I don't have anything on under my sweater. Nobody getting the idea. That's just what they wanted to hear. I know. So Leonard is being honored this weekend at Comic-Con. Well, yeah. Is that the way to put it? I'm a guest of honor at the Comic-Con, which is very flattering, very nice.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh, okay. And I'm going to be the subject of a spotlight panel Saturday at 6 p.m. hosted by my old friend Mark Evanier, who's one of the longtime stalwarts of Comic-Con. He does at least 20 panels every year interviewing some of the greats of the world of comic book and animation and pop culture. I guess I sort of slide into the latter area there. And I'm going to be on a Warner Home Video panel about B-movies on Friday afternoon. And Friday night
Starting point is 00:16:30 the folks at Rotten Tomatoes asked me to be on a panel called Your Opinion Sucks. Which is not aimed at me particularly. It's a panel of critics and reviewers. And then I'm hosting something with Gene Deitch, who's in that book of Mice and Magic, because Gene has had a long career in animation.
Starting point is 00:16:49 He lives in Prague, and he's flown in with a new book that just came out about a creation of his called Nudnik. And so I'm going to be busy and having a good time. What language is his book in? His book is in Old English, like Chaucer.
Starting point is 00:17:04 He lost. And what are you up to this weekend, Matt? Lots of stuff, Doug. I've got the Nerdist panel at 3pm on Saturday. Live Nerdist podcast Saturday night
Starting point is 00:17:19 at the Balboa Theater, if you're coming. Great. If not, I'm sorry. And tomorrow night Tournament of Nerds at Comic-Con and I'll be around the floor filming some stuff for State Farm because, you know, like a good
Starting point is 00:17:34 neighbor, Matt Meyer is there. I just thought of that. And other stuff. Yeah, podcasts. I'm doing some podcasts in hotel rooms, real clandestine-like. It's going to be good,
Starting point is 00:17:48 I think. Sure. It's always fun. Yeah. I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm going to be in a tiny enclosed room with George R.R. Martin. You know what's nice
Starting point is 00:17:56 about Comic-Con taking place right now? Is it kind of forces you to stay away from movie theaters where they're showing so many cruddy movies for the summer season.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Do you think that's why they release things right now? Like, because they know everybody that would care is going to be at Comic-Con? They're hiding it. They're hiding. Let's go ahead and put out Red 2 and RIPD this weekend because all the nerds will be busy and there won't be a bunch of tweets
Starting point is 00:18:23 about how terrible they are. You never know. It's a theory. It's a sound theory. The ads are saying that Red 2 is better than the first. And to me, that means that it's okay. I wasn't much of a fan of the first Red. I asked Leonard what he thought of RIPD.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And he said, they're not screening it. They're actually screening it. I mean, I don't review movies before they open, but in this case, I can just state a fact. The only press screening they're having, apparently, is the night before it opens. Which is not a good sign.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Probably at midnight, right? Because I was hoping that would be fun, but who knows. Men in Black 4 looks great, you're right I just can't get past in the ads, the part where Jeff Bridges is like this isn't what I really look like and there's a hot lady, it's what he really looks like
Starting point is 00:19:19 and then Ryan Reynolds really looks like an old Asian man was another way of saying it. Less nerdy way of saying it. I didn't know Sam Levine was going to drop by tonight. Oh, that is the most insulting thing that can be said on this show. He knows everything. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:19:44 But I cannot get past the fact that Jeff Bridges is wearing a hat and is always touching it and fiddling with it, but then when they cut to what he really is, it's a hot lady who's not wearing a hat. So, like, watching the movie, I'll just be like, why does he keep playing with his hat when he actually looks like a person
Starting point is 00:20:02 who's not wearing a hat? You were troubled by this in the trailer. It really bothered me, because the Asian man has a hat and Ryan Reynolds does not have a hat. Oh, my God. I get it. I get it that they look different in reality. But you want them to be wearing
Starting point is 00:20:18 similar items of clothing. Maybe, yeah. I just wanted to make more sense. You're looking for sense at the summer movie season? This is not a good time of year to go for that. And then, like, in the ads, the lines that they quote, like, in the radio ad I heard today, they're, like, starring Jeff Bridges, and he says something mildly amusing, and Ryan Reynolds, and he goes, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Wow, that sounds like a really fun, original motion picture But I like Ryan Reynolds, do you like Ryan Reynolds? He's okay Is that non-committal enough for you? No, but I think you feel that way about him Because he just is in some unfortunate projects Yes Did you sit through Green Lantern?
Starting point is 00:21:00 I did I didn't dislike Green Lantern as much as a lot of people. What? You gave Back to the Future 2 two and a half stars. And now you're saying I didn't hate the Green Lantern. That's true. That's true. Where are your priorities, Leonard? I've seen a lot worse than that. In the last two weeks, I've seen a lot worse than that. I don't even get what you were trying to say with the two and a half stars thing.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You think it deserves more? Back to the Future 2? Yeah, I do. Wow. It's a three. It's at least a three to me. I'm sorry. Don't not agree with me. It's okay. It's all right. I love that half a star disagreement. Really? Because it puts it in a whole other...
Starting point is 00:21:43 There's another realm where it goes, you know? Like, if you're cruising and you're on Yelp, you know, and you're like, oh, look at that. Two and a half stars. Not gonna do it at all. Three stars, you're like, fuck it. I don't feel like walking anywhere else. Three stars means good.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Three stars means it's, you know, you could go in there. Have you seen my favorite film of the summer? Have you seen The Way, Way Back? I have not seen The Way, Way Back, but I am excited to see it. It's such a good movie. It looked good before you said that, and then now I have no reason to not be excited about it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Such a good movie. Have you seen it, Claire? I haven't seen it yet. And that's the problem. See, the Lone Ranger comes out, they spend $250 million making the film. $250 on the script. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 That was it. I bet you they found it in garbage. I bet you they didn't pay anything for it. Matt, if that's true, they overpaid. Boom! You got Leonard! Or they made a swap for Grown Ups 2.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh, God damn it. Equivalent value. But the Way Way Back doesn't have that muscle. It doesn't have that marketing push behind it. And because it's not one of these summer event movies, or they call them tentpole movies now, it's like there isn't an imperative. People don't feel, oh, I've got to be their opening weekend. I've got to go see that movie.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So it slides. And people, I mean, you know, you've heard of it. Both of you said you've heard of it. And you're sort of interested. And Doug, who is an avid moviegoer, says, yeah, I haven't seen it yet. And so you don't get around to seeing it. And then one day you feel like seeing it, and it's not in the theater anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And that's the business model like seeing it, it's not in the theater anymore. And that's the business model that's broken, I think, with movies now, is that all this crappy stuff comes out on Fridays with the advertising. Everybody rushes to see it, even if they know it's not going to be that good, just because you want to see what it is
Starting point is 00:23:40 and be able to talk about it. And the good movies kind of float by. Yeah, Lone Ranger, everyone in the business thinks it's a complete failure, and it made $50 million its first weekend. That's right, we should all have such failures. And Way, Way Back should be so lucky. But here in San Diego, for instance,
Starting point is 00:23:58 Way, Way Back is playing in one place. So you've got to, you know, and it's Hillcrest. Yeah, you've got to really want to see it. So I haven't seen it yet. But it's worth the effort, you know, and it's Hillcrest. Yeah, you gotta really want to see it. So, I haven't seen it yet. But it's worth the effort. It's worth traveling, worth doing whatever you need to do. Have you seen the spectacular now yet? No, I want to see that.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I've heard great things about that. And the director, James Ponsolt, was on Douglas News last week. I liked it very much. Smashed is very good, too. This is probably more like a conversation we should have later. Leonard and Doug discuss every movie. We're going to be here a while, you guys.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Cancel my late show. I just wanted to get in my licks for Way, Way Back because I'm touting that movie. Yeah, it's your favorite. Allison Sweeney? Oh, Allison Janney. Janney. Oh, yeah. Janney.
Starting point is 00:24:49 She's wonderful. Allison. Allie's in it. Yeah, Allie's in it. Yeah, she's great in it. And the two dudes that won the screenplay Oscar with Alexander Payne for The Descendants. Nat Faxon and Jim Rash.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah, they wrote it and also play funny character roles in the movie. All true. So you're saying if you see one movie this summer, Grown Ups 2. I had to see Grown Ups 2 last Wednesday night at a radio promo screening in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Wait a second. You had to go to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Wait a second. You had to go to Albuquerque to see it, or is that where you make your home? It's where I tape my show for Reels Channel, my weekly cable TV show. Reels Channel's great. They have another program I enjoy called Beverly Hills Pond.
Starting point is 00:25:36 That's true. And Reels is located in Albuquerque. I commute there to do my show. And in this case, the only screening that they had of Grown Ups 2 was Wednesday night, and that's when we sort of post our show and get it ready to air on Friday. So the only way to get it into the show
Starting point is 00:25:53 was for me to see it there, race back to the studio, write the review, drop in the voice tracks, and put it in the show. Because America needed to know. How shitty it was. And it was, being a radio promo screening,
Starting point is 00:26:09 nobody paid to get in. And so they were all grateful. It was a grateful audience. Easily won over, I would like to. I'd like to think they were easily won over. I was watching the trailer for the movie, and I almost laughed, and I was like, what happened? And then I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:23 oh, you're just remembering Billy Madison. That's all that happened in your brain. It's just, you know, there's that theory, now, you're a comedian, you deal with audience response. There are two theories
Starting point is 00:26:39 about critics and comedies, which is either that we should only see them with an audience, because that's the only way we'll really appreciate it and get into the spirit of laughing. I get that theory, but it has a backlash. And the backlash is, I'm sitting there saying, God damn it, they're laughing at this. Yeah, it makes you dislike it even more if the crowd's enjoying it and you think it sucks. Graham and I saw Fast 6 in Nashville and they were people laughing
Starting point is 00:27:07 at the written jokes in the movie. They weren't good. Not good. The less you say about Fast and Furious, the better, Matt. He got me in real hot water by revealing that amazing Jason Statham cameo at the end.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I got a lot of angry tweets over that. I got a couple of those, too. And I was like, eh, fuck you. But I love Leonard's review of Lone Ranger because it starts with, what were they thinking? Yes!
Starting point is 00:27:43 And it ends with, I'm already doing my best to forget this misbegotten this misbegotten movie people don't use the expression misbegotten enough anymore Leonard if you had to like if you had to say one redeeming quality or the best
Starting point is 00:27:58 thing about the Lone Ranger what would it be like is there one thing that's good like is it beautifully shot scenery is there one thing that's good? Like is it beautifully shot? It looks great. Scenery is beautiful. The trains are really impressive. The trains give
Starting point is 00:28:11 a great performance. The planes and the automobiles not so much. Leonard, this sounds suspiciously like your Back to the Future 3 review. I like both the scenery and the trains in that movie too.
Starting point is 00:28:26 It's true. So you're telling me there was a western where a train crashed and that was the big set piece? I can't believe it. No, no, no. I'm not a pushover. There's a really interesting thing going on with the Back to the Future movies in that Biff and his...
Starting point is 00:28:42 Tom Wilson. How many generations of Biff appear over the course of the movies? It's his father. You got his great-great-granddad, Buford Mad Dog Tannen. You got Biff himself. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:28:57 We're at Comic-Con. Get over yourself, San Diego. San Diego. But then you really only get three generations of Biff because you got Buford Mad Dog, Biff, and Griff because you're just seeing 1985 Biff, 1955 Biff, and 2015 Biff. I just think it's interesting that in all of those Biffs,
Starting point is 00:29:20 they all cannot stand manure and they all end up with some of it in their face. And it's all the same company that is producing the manure, if you look at the sign on the truck. You're welcome. Yeah, I checked that out for you. And also, Statler Toyota is the Statler horse and buggy in the 1885.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You're welcome. Leonard, I'd like to invite you to my house to watch all the Back to the Future movies. Claire, you can come too. Yeah. Well, that brings me to Claire, who I want to know, have you seen all of the Bring It On sequels? I have not.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Because they're kind of direct-to-video affairs. They went on and on. Yeah. Bring it on. Bring it on again. More and more. Continue to bring it on. I'm still bringing it. Hey, did I mention that you should bring it on again?
Starting point is 00:30:17 I would like you to know, Claire, that I bought my Volvo in Torrance. Oh, you did? I love it. That's where the movie takes place. Well, I had just moved here when we shot the movie. We actually shot in San Diego for five months. It was amazing. Yes, it was amazing. The place is famous. And I didn't know that, you know, Torrance and
Starting point is 00:30:33 Lake Forest and all these places were real. And then when I drove up to LA, I was like, hey, hey. You just thought they were like the fucking Shire or something? Yeah, I mean, I just yeah. I mean, I just, yeah. I mean, I didn't know. Hey, I was from New York.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I knew the Bronx, Brooklyn, you know. So, you know, and then all of a sudden I'm like, I want to see where she got the names of everybody. So, yeah. Did you see Bring It On, the musical? You know what? They invited me to the premiere and I couldn't go because it was working. So I have not seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And they just did that one performance. Of course. They're like, it's nothing like the movie. And I'm like, if you look at the poster, it's the exact poster. But then people who've seen it say, no, it's not like the movie. The story is quite different. Turns out it's about some cheerleaders that have to overcome some adversity to win the big
Starting point is 00:31:17 competition at the end. But they sing, right? Yeah, exactly. They sing, but they throw each other And They sing. And they cheer and they dance. They throw each other very high in front of the audience. The Spider-Man musical? It's more dangerous than the Spider-Man musical. Those guys are on wires.
Starting point is 00:31:35 You can bring it on, they're just throwing each other in the air willy-nilly. It's just crazy. Just tossing up. They did a High Fidelity musical that ran for a week and a half in Chicago that I kind of wanted to see. But anyway, anybody see it? Didn't think so.
Starting point is 00:31:50 All right. They did. They really did. They're workshopping the Heathers musical right now in LA. I'll see the shit out of that. Yeah, me too. I will too. I love that movie.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I will see the shit out of that movie. Talk about a movie. Do you like Heathers? Leonard Maltin? How many stars did Heathers get? Let's talk about this. I'm not a big Heathers guy. Oh. Have you ever played this game with him, Doug? Have you ever gone? Heathers. Leonard Maltin. How many stars did Heathers get? Let's talk about this. I'm not a big Heathers guy.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Have you ever played this game with him, Doug? Have you ever gone, what did you rate this movie? And then ask him and then he has to tell you and then he's usually wrong probably. That's a good game. I think he could ballpark it but I also think that probably movies about teenage girls aren't necessarily in his wheelhouse. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You raised a teenage girl. It should be in your wheelhouse. I like Bring It On. I like Bring It On a lot. It's a good movie. Alright, I'm going to confirm that right now. Do you find it weird that... How many stars did you give it? Oh, I love this game. I think it gets three stars.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I think you're right. Yeah! High spirited, high energy. High flying action. Woo-hoo! I added that part for you. Followed by a direct-to-video sequel, so you'll have to update this review.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yes, we will. To say it's followed by a shit ton of crap. Sharp Riding by Jessica Bendinger. Driving Direction. I like that director. I like that next movie he did. Peyton Reed. Peyton Reed.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That was his first feature debut. Yeah, but I like that Down With Love movie with Ewan McGregor. Renee Zellweger. I agree with that as well. Yeah. You know who I like a director I love that made one giant piece of shit
Starting point is 00:33:21 was Martin Campbell who decided he would agree to do the Green Lantern. The guy directs Casino Royale, and then he turns around and gives us fucking Green Lantern. Did you love Casino Royale? Did you give it five stars? You probably should have given it five. No, I thought Casino Royale was terrific.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Okay, good. I want to find common ground after these Back to the Future problems. I like it. And when you see Quantum of Solace afterwards, you really appreciate Casino Ride. Well, yes, but if you watch them back to back and treat it as one five-hour movie. I'd rather not.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'd rather not do that experiment. Leonard, you're coming over. I'd rather not do that experiment. Only if you run Bring It On again, yes. Yeah, yeah, we'll do that in between. We'll watch all the Back to the Futures, Bring It On again, yes. Yeah, yeah, we'll do that in between. We'll watch all the Back to the Futures, Bring It On.
Starting point is 00:34:11 We'll pound a bunch of speed. And then, yeah, it's going to be good. You need 48 hours with Leonard. Oh, God. 48 hours. Thank you, Leonard. Oh, I can already see it. Do you want to do a web show with me where we just camp in my living room
Starting point is 00:34:26 and I force you to watch the movies I like that you don't? Quantum of Solace had the weirdest James Bond villain death of all the films, which was basically they just left him stranded in the desert with nothing to drink but a can of motor oil. I love it. Then they find his body. They find his body and they're like,
Starting point is 00:34:46 they only found oil in his stomach. He went for it. Yeah, he drank it. Why would you do that? He used to, that's that guy, Matthew Almeric, who's so great in the Bell and the Butterfly. Oh, the Diving Bell and the Butterfly? Diving Bell and the Butterfly.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He's a brilliant actor. Love that movie. He's a great actor. The book and the movie. That movie freaked me out because it really puts you in the position of like, you know, his point of view of like, what if you were completely paralyzed
Starting point is 00:35:11 and all you could do is blink? And then he blinks an entire book to his... Blinky computer? To his wife or nurse. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Check it out if you want to really be freaked out. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I suggest reading the book first and then seeing the movie. You have like a deeper appreciation. The movie's foreign so you can just read the movie while you're watching the movie. It's true. It's kind of like, you know, if you want to multitask you can do that. Leonard, do you want to come over and revisit the Star Trek series?
Starting point is 00:35:44 Alright, well now that you've brought it up, do you like the Star Trek movies? The new ones? Any of them. Do you have a fondness for them in general? Yeah. It got off to a weird start with that Robert Wise one that was ponderous. Though I never saw the re-edit that he did.
Starting point is 00:35:59 They did a complete revision. Well, I'll tell you, it didn't help. No? Persis Kambada, still bald. Yes, she is. But then Wrath of Khan, of course, is probably the best movie ever made. Terrific. And Nicholas Meyer did a great job on several of those.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yes, Star Trek VI as well. Right, right. The four... The four, yeah, four. Those even-numbered ones are really good. I don't know how that turned out but it's true well yeah and then you end up with Nemesis which is also even numbered
Starting point is 00:36:29 but piece of shit that's why they gave up on that particular crew right after that one well I mean they were all getting up there a little bit and then they decided to reboot it here we are and then somebody shot J reboot it. And that happened. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And then somebody shot J.J. Abrams out of a tank. I thoroughly enjoyed the Abrams tank. Oh my goodness. Wow. That is delightful. Nice. I heard that from backstage and I was like, that's clever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Should everyone else? Yeah, there you go. Everybody look at that. Yeah, show everybody. Woo! The only thing that's missing is a lens flare. That's something I enjoy about doing this show in LA and out on the road
Starting point is 00:37:14 is that people, they want their name tag to be picked, but nobody gets bummed out when they don't get picked. I think because they all had fun making it. Yeah, right? It's like an art project. Did you all enjoy making your name tags? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. What'd you say? You're kind of the nighttime version of Let's Make a Deal. Yes. Oh, I remember they did that primetime. They did that primetime. I remember that. Let's make a deal. Anyway, forget it.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Scratch that from the record. I'm going to have to ask the jury. Ryan, please cut that out. Could the jury please disregard that that was said? Well, I guess we're at the part of the show where I say... Let the games begin! Ah!
Starting point is 00:38:09 Oh my goodness. And in order to play the games, we need everyone to pick a name tag from the audience. I'm going to see how wireless this microphone is. Oh. You were the one I was hoping wouldn't have the wireless microphone that's too bad
Starting point is 00:38:30 we'll be right back and we're back Leonard who are you playing for could you hold up your name tag and tell us who don't show the shithead on the back okay I've got it's uh I'm Lisa... I'm Lisa, and I'm an emetophobe. I talked to her earlier, and then you came out and picked the name tag. That's pretty good. There we go. Let me get it on mine.
Starting point is 00:38:52 There you go. Beautiful. And who are you playing for, Claire? I am playing for Catch Jeremy, if you can. All right. That's one of my favorite Spielberg movies. And then another Spielberg movie. Matt, what is that?
Starting point is 00:39:08 Roar! That might be my best find yet. Closing off on the roar. And who is, but who's that, what's the person's name? Jared, I'm assuming. Jared? J-A-R-A-S. Jared?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Jared. Yes, sir. Jared. Jared. Like Jeff Jarrett? The T's not in there. Sorry if my references are odd. Anyway, this is a great...
Starting point is 00:39:42 Hey, Leonard. Jurassic Park, right? Five stars, huh? Terrific movie. Okay, all right. We don't have to watch that one. Lost World, what do we think? It's one with...
Starting point is 00:39:51 What's it? Lost World. What are we thinking of the Lost World? Jurassic Park, the Lost World. A.K.A. Jeff Goldblum somehow has a black kid. Yeah, well... The first one's really the film. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Everything else is spinning off of that, to me, with lesser results each time. I mean, I don't... We don't have to revisit it. I agree with you. Yeah, I think that's it, then. All right, good. Then we can close the chapter there.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Done. How many stars do you think you gave it? Oh, Lost World? Can I guess beforehand? The original? The first one, yeah. Either three or three and a half. Alright, let's talk again.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You love that movie? The first... Jurassic Park? Yeah. Yeah! It's a fucking great movie! What is wrong with that movie? Did you go back to see it in 3D? No, I didn't. I own it on Blu-ray. Isn't that enough
Starting point is 00:40:44 for you people? And they fucking won't sell them individually, so I own the other two on Blu-ray. Leonard gave it three and a half. If I'm not mistaken, you go only up to four stars, correct? Okay, we can hang out. Friends forever.
Starting point is 00:41:02 That was close. That was very close. Yeah, that was a close one. It's all right alright Narrow escape I mean I give things five stars but that's just me I was disappointed
Starting point is 00:41:09 that they never made a Richard Attenborough action figure At the time I was collecting action figures at Toys R Us Kids would love
Starting point is 00:41:19 playing with that one Kids love saying Welcome to Jurassic Park That's right I would be fucking loving that action figure. I would go in and be like, we spared no expense.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Am I right? Yes. Am I right? Yes. They never made that one. We feed them goats. Our lives are in your hands and you've got butterfingers?
Starting point is 00:41:45 God damn it, I love that movie. Lenny, me and you. This weekend, we're watching it. I think, personally, I find Lost World, I think Lost World is more exciting of a movie than the first one. I didn't hear you.
Starting point is 00:42:01 That's cool. I thought Laura Dern was kind of, I love her as an actress, but I thought she was pretty rough in that first you. That's cool. I thought Laura Dern was kind of, I love her as an actress, but I thought she was pretty rough in that first one. She was fine. Too much of those two little kids. Yeah. I thought Samuel Jackson's fake arm did a great job.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Hold on to your butts. Now, guys, is he talking about a cigarette? Or is he talking like like, literally hold on to your ass? It really works both ways. I know! Because he's got a cigarette dangling from his mouth at the time, I think. A la Ray Stantz in Ghostbusters.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Two and a half stars for Lost World from Leonard. You could see that depreciation happening. You never know. If you'd like me to come and we'll revise for the 2014 every movie. I think the sequence
Starting point is 00:42:48 where the RV is over the side of the cliff in Lost World is one of Spielberg's best action sequences that he's ever shot. I can agree with that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 That's a very good set piece. I also enjoyed the introduction of the Mercedes M-Class available now at your local dealer. Could you walk around wearing that name tag for the rest of Comic-Con?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Because it looks great on you. It looks like you just won a pageant. Yeah. It was a pageant for dinosaurs who love Back to the Future movies. Oh my god! That's my fucking wheelhouse! I don't think you've ever played this game, Leonard,
Starting point is 00:43:29 and I know Claire hasn't, because it's her first time on the show. That's true. But it's called The Bane Game. Ooh! Uh-oh. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to say a quote from a motion picture,
Starting point is 00:43:43 classic or otherwise. The AFI put out a list of the 100 greatest quotes, and there's some really good ones in there, but I don't necessarily agree that all of them are the 100 best. Yeah, I know. There's like 40 in Jurassic Park, so. Newman. You should make a vine of you just running down the street kicking a can of...
Starting point is 00:44:17 Barbasol. Barbasol down the street and trying to grab it. Say to people, what's this from? I mean, if you think I already have it, then that's just your problem so i'll say a quote from a movie in my bane impression and then um if you think you know the the movie that it's from uh just shout out your own name and whoever shouts out first i will call on and then you will guess the name of the movie and if you don't get it
Starting point is 00:44:44 wrong you don't lose the point right if you get it wrong you don't lose on, and then you will guess the name of the movie. And if you don't get it wrong, you don't lose the point. If you get it wrong, you don't lose the point. But then we will, the other two people have a shot at it. Huh? If they want to take a chance. Okay. Just go, just say, let's try it right now. Leonard.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Leonard. Yeah. Okay. Right. Got it. If you want, you know, if you wanted to, you know, be quicker about it, you could say Len, but I know you prefer Leonard. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So go ahead and say your whole name. Leonard. Yeah. That was pretty fast. That's perfect. You just practiced. That was good. That was good.
Starting point is 00:45:16 All right. Here we go. And feel free to jump in in the middle of the quote if you know it early enough to do that. First person to three points is going to win. Uh-oh. Listen to me, mister. You're my knight in shining armor. Leonard.
Starting point is 00:45:35 What's that from, Leonard? That's Catherine Hepburn on Golden Pond. That is correct. Bullshit. When I came up with this game, I was like, this is a game Leonard will actually be good at. What if you go... Since he's not good at the Leonard Martin game.
Starting point is 00:45:52 That was an effort to decipher in that voice, but I'm glad. Yeah, the voice is throwing me, but I'm in now. What if you're like, no time for love, Dr. Jones, and I go clerks, and you're like, no, it was Raiders of Temple of Doom. What happens? Why would I do that?
Starting point is 00:46:08 I don't know. I try to pick quotes that are only in one film and aren't quoted again. Sometimes they're quoted again in another film, maybe. Like if I said, we're not in Kansas anymore. Yes, I would say. That's in The Matrix. Every movie.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And every other movie. Like when it happened in The Matrix, I just, I shuddered. in The Matrix. Every movie. And every other movie. Like, when it happened in The Matrix, I just, I shuddered. Like, why are you saying that? This is The Matrix. You shouldn't have references to an old movie in it. Okay, here we go again. Of course, some people do go both ways. Of course, some people do go both ways. Of course, some people do go both ways.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Matt, is it the Wachowski brothers bound? There's some lesbian shit in there. I'm just guessing. Anyone else? Claire. Yes? The Crying Game. I like it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Logical. You can come hang out with me and Leonard. Yeah. I went in on that. Yes. Leonard, do you have any idea? Not a clue.
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's kind of a fun thing I just did because that's from The Wizard of Oz. There's not a lot of game shows where they bring up the answer right before they ask the questions. That was tricky. Yeah, Scarecrow says
Starting point is 00:47:31 some people go both ways. And I've always enjoyed that line, because I was like, why is the Scarecrow talking about bisexuality? And that made the 100 greatest quotes? No, I said some of them might be from the 100 greatest quotes. These are his 100 greatest quotes.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I said classics and otherwise. The Knight in Shining Armor one, though, was on the list. That's not really the greatest top 100 quotes. All right. No one got a point on that one. She puts the whore in horrifying. Claire. Yes?
Starting point is 00:48:11 Bring it on. Yeah, you say it in that movie. Woo! Would have been hilarious if someone else got it. I know. If I was like, I'm like, it sounds familiar. Yes, it was me. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I feel the need. The need. Matt. Yes. Top Gun. Correct. Correct. Attica Matt
Starting point is 00:48:49 dog day afternoon that's correct fuck you both I'm going all the way I know we were tied and then all of a sudden we're not you're about to win that's how good I am at Back to the Future. I am big.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Leonard was first. Go ahead, Leonard. Get it wrong. Gloria Swanson as Norman Desmond in Sunset Boulevard. Wow, you really pulled a Sam Levine on that one. Yeah, baby. TMI. I like it. This is exciting. So Matt has two and Leonard has two.
Starting point is 00:49:34 And Claire has the one. Which I said. She said. Yeah, that I said. Obviously, I'm really good at this game. Here's Johnny. Matt. Oh, Claire, Claire.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Matt got in there. The Tonight Show. You really want to throw this away with a joke? The Shining. Oh, she got the point. Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:07 He's such a gentleman. Three-way tie. Three-way tie. This is exciting. Here's your last one for the win. I'm walking here. I'm walking here. Leonard.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Dustin Hoffman and Midnight Cowboy. That's correct you forgot to say as Ratso Rizzo you gave me crap last time so I was trying to be I love that the rat in the Muppet things
Starting point is 00:50:36 is called Ratso Rizzo that is such a weird why would the Muppets be referencing that movie about gay prostitution especially in Dickensian England at Christmas Why would the Muppets be referencing that movie about gay prostitution? Especially in Dickensian England at Christmas. It's crazy, but Leonard's our winner, you guys.
Starting point is 00:50:59 What did he win? I'll tell you. He won the opportunity to go first in this next game. And it's a game that I like to call, How Much Did This Shit Make? This is my favorite game. I have the home version. It's where you just sit around and talk about it with your friends.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It's cute that you added friends Basically how this game works is I'm going to name a movie And then Leonard's going to go first And then we'll let Claire go And then Matt And you guys will bid on how much money You think this movie made At the domestic box office
Starting point is 00:51:43 During its entire run without going over. It's Price is Right style. Tricky. Yeah. And the movie is Morgan Spurlock's Comic-Con Episode 4
Starting point is 00:52:00 A Fan's Hope. I only bring it up because my movie, Chronicon, Episode 4, A New Dope, or Revenge of the Spliff, or whatever you want to call it, The Empire Strikes Back,
Starting point is 00:52:20 will be coming out someday. We're still working on it but how much money do you think that movie made Leonard $400,000 Claire $250,000 okay and Matt?
Starting point is 00:52:45 I'm going to say... No, I'm not going to say a dollar. Who said that? Did you say that? It's a classic crisis right strategy. It made between $2 and $249,000. It probably opened, I'm gonna guess, in at least 200 screens, right?
Starting point is 00:53:07 So anyway, I'm gonna give it the figure of $1.1 million in its entire domestic run. Did you see it? No. I liked it a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It's really charming. They show like a couple that got married here, I think, and... Oh. Oh. Romantic. It's really charming. They show a couple that got married here, I think. Romantic. Romantic nerds. Nobody wins.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I know why. We all went over. Because you all overbid. Holy shit. Sir, I apologize wholeheartedly. You could have had it. You could have had it. I could have had it. You know, I knew I was overbidding, but I didn't want to be...
Starting point is 00:53:50 It made $34,665. What? The Toyota Camry cost more. It's according to Box Office Mojo. I trust them. Yeah. I was them. Yeah. I was high when I looked at it. Maybe it was $34 million.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I doubt it. Or $3 million? What kind of a loss did he take on that? No, no, no. Probably made his money on VOD. Yeah, I'm sure it was probably... And it wasn't on 200 screens. It was on one or two screens in big cities.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I counted the screens of the people at home watching. Alright, so that means Leonard gets to go first in the Leonard Moulton game. This is where it turns ugly. Can I have a water, please, people in the back? Thank you Can I have a water, please?
Starting point is 00:54:45 People in the back, thank you. I was so excited, though, that you were so great at the quotes thing. Because I thought that would be the case. I may have peaked for the evening. Do you have any favorite quotes from movies? I should have looked up what you say in Gremlins 2, A New Batch.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Oh, my God. I just read it to you. What do you do? Do you just recuse yourself from reviewing it because you're in it? Is that what you would do? He reviews it while he's in the movie. That's how I got in it. Because I had just recently started working at Entertainment Tonight in the early 80s,
Starting point is 00:55:22 and there was no alternate critic. I was the guy and I was supposed to review all the big new movies and I had to review Gremlins which was made by my friend Joe Dante. I'm not friends with filmmakers but in this case I was. You're friends with Joe Dante? That's fucking awesome. He's even cooler now.
Starting point is 00:55:40 We're a couple of guys from Jersey who love movies. Anyway, and I had the unpleasant task of going on national television and giving a bad review to his movie. We're going to queue that up right after Back to the Future 3. And it was not a pleasant thing to do,
Starting point is 00:55:56 and it was tough to do. But I had to be honest. I didn't like the movie. You had to say it was full of film buff in-jokes, but negated by too vivid violence and mayhem. That's what I said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yeah. Which is the only insulting thing you say about it. So several years later, Joe's then-producing partner, Mike Finnell, called me on the phone and said, so we're doing Gremlins 2, and there's a scene where the Gremlins invade a TV network and go into all these different studios
Starting point is 00:56:28 and wreck all the shows and we want to have a movie review show with you doing the movie review and I said well I think I owe you that so that's how I got in Gremlins 2 and the idea was that I was going to be reviewing Gremlins 1 in Gremlins 2
Starting point is 00:56:44 and by that time it had come out on video And the idea was that I was going to be reviewing Gremlins 1 in Gremlins 2. Whoa. Uh-huh. And by that time, it had come out on video, video cassette in those days. And Joe was directing me in this scene on a stage at Warner Brothers. It was all very surreal. And he said, just use your own words. So he directed me to give a bad review to his movie again in his sequel to the movie.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Which, strangely enough, got three stars. Gremlins got two stars, then you bumped it up a notch. Very interesting. You try it too. Anyway, and the Gremlins come in and kill me. But almost as good as being in the movies that I was on three tops gum cards of the story of the movie,
Starting point is 00:57:34 which is a kind of immortality. Yeah, it is. That was very cool. I like gremlins too a lot. I do too. It's really Tony Randall's voice of the one talking gremlin. Oh, yes. I do too. Tony Randall is the voice of the one talking Gremlins. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:57:48 You wrote at the end of your Gremlins 2, the new batch, and by the way, there's no colon on there. I heard Sam complain about that. Yes, I know. He's going to take you to task over that at the next barbecue you guys are at.
Starting point is 00:58:04 You wrote at the end of this review, be sure to stay with this through the closing credits. What happens in the closing credits? There's some good gags in the closing credits. Nick Fury comes up and says, hey, gremlin. But that's a nice tip that you give us to watch that part.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I like the little tidbits you throw in there. Get these motherfucking gremlins off my mind. 20,000. Never mind. Forget it. You haven't used my actual book in a long time, have you? You've adopted the Leonard Maltin Movie Guide app. Yeah, it's all about the app.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Boy, it sounds like someone makes less money off the app. That sounds right. Yeah. Buy the book, everyone. off the app. That sounds right. Buy the book, everyone. Buy the book. Please go to Amazon.com through the link on the Nerdist page. And then be sure to use stamps.com slash WTF.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Hey! There it is. There it is. There it is. But this is, yeah, we used to, the Leonard Maltin game started for me with my friends Sarah Silverman and Brian Posehn and I used to sit around and play it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And we would take the book, and this is how we would do it, is we'd start going like that, and someone else like Matt say, stop, stop. And then we'd start going like that, and someone else like Matt, say stop. Stop. And then we'd go like this. Stop. And then you'd just stop on the movie, and then we would play it,
Starting point is 00:59:32 and it's an incredibly hard game when you play it that way. All right, let's play. Because there's a lot of movies in here, and it gets pretty obscure. This one is from 2006. Leonard gives it three stars. Oh, shit. He says that this movie is the seventh installment in a series. And he says that it's thoroughly absorbing.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Harry Potter something. And he lists no names. Whoa. What movie do you think that is? Oh, it's one of the 7-Up movies. Yes, 48-Up. Ah. Yeah, 2006. I should have given you that is? Oh, it's one of the 7-Up movies. Yes, 48 Up. Ah. Yeah, 2006.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I should have given you the year. I get it. But anyway, that's how we used to do it. But now that we have the app, now that we're in a brave new world, the thing I like about the app is that I can program it. It doesn't have to be random like that. Right. So really, the app was just made for you.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Everyone else, please buy the book. Get the book and the app. The book is fun too, but the app is good if you want to play with your friends. Wouldn't it look cute if you had a little display
Starting point is 01:00:32 with two on either side? Because it's a big, thick paperback book. I hear you. So you'd need two Richard Attenborough action figures on each side
Starting point is 01:00:40 holding up the book. That's nice. That'd be a fun thing. That's a good visual. Maybe with a cheerleader action figure from Bring It On up the book. That's nice. That's a good visual. Maybe with a cheerleader action figure from Bring It On in the middle. What imaginary line of action figures did you just invent for Bring It On?
Starting point is 01:00:52 I like it. At least it's plausible. Like, oh, maybe Kenner built a prototype, Richard Attenborough, and then Doug walked by and said, that's stupid. Who's going to use that? What's up, Doug? It's just a thought.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Let's play the Leonard Maltin game. Okay. Starting with Leonard, as I mentioned, you get to pick a category. At amills321 suggested on Twitter, Quill Bill. And that's
Starting point is 01:01:20 movies based on Shakespeare. Pretty clever. Quill Bill. At Amber Peace, P-E-A-C-E, suggested failure to launch. And that's films where a character has erectile dysfunction. Okay. Which I don't believe Matthew McConaughey had in failure to launch. Didn't see that one.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And Aztec alum, is that you? Aztec alum, San Diego, San Diego State, wrote, suggested Gas Lamp District, which is where we are. And that's movies that have either gas or lamp or district in the title. Oh. Which one of those would you like to play? Leonard. Shakespeare, erectile dysfunction.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I have a feeling you'll stay away from that one. Or gas lamp district. I'll do gas lamp district. Alright, that's fun. That's where we are. Okay, the year is 1983. Three stars from you.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I love saying that, from you. You gave it three stars. I'd say that's about right. You call this movie enjoyable. And you also say that it has a surprising number of genuine laughs. And then you list, and it's got gas or lamp or district in the title and you listed 12 names? Yeah, 12 names. No, I'm sorry. One of them's hyphenated, so it's
Starting point is 01:03:12 just 11 names. Okay. How many names do you need to name this, Leonard? All of them. Okay, so he's taking 11 names. So then we go to Claire. You can either say, name that movie, which would be probably a bad thing to do because he'll get to hear all the names. Or you can bid the next best thing, which would be 10 names.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I'm going to say 10. Okay, good bid. Shocking. Zero. Ooh. Now we come back over to Leonard, who has to either get into negative names category territory which you do if you think you know what it is but if you don't know what it is you probably just have to
Starting point is 01:03:49 1983 I just so suck at this game but Matt may be you be honing in on the wrong movie. It's true. It's very true. I'll say nine names.
Starting point is 01:04:10 He did zero. You know what? He's Leonard Maltin. He can say whatever the fuck he wants. Touche. Touche. No, no. Obviously, I can't go into negative names. I'm clueless.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Matt, name that movie. I'm going to say it's National Lampoon's Vacation. Correct. Yeah. Ah. That's a, yeah. Well played. It was the hyphenated name that made me think
Starting point is 01:04:42 Anthony Michael Hall. Oh. Well played, sir. Oh. It was actually Brian Doyle name that made me think Anthony Michael Hall Well played sir He's actually Brian Doyle Murray Letting us in on his tactics I went to a I grew up here in San Diego And they used to have
Starting point is 01:04:57 And maybe still do Lots of preview screenings For movies where all the filmmakers Would come down to San Diego And watch it with an audience in a really big theater. When they used to have single, really big screens, there was one in...
Starting point is 01:05:12 Which one was it at? It might have been in Mission Valley. But I saw the screening of it, and I thought it was okay. I didn't love it. But afterwards, Harold Ramis was just standing around the lobby. I knew who Harold Ramis was. I was excited. And I went up Harold Ramis was. I was excited. And I went up to him and I went,
Starting point is 01:05:27 you're the voice of the moose. And he went, that's correct. And that was our entire conversation. I was so excited that I nerded out on him that I knew that it was his voice. To this day, have you had another interaction with him? Nuh-uh. That's it. If I do, I'll tell him that story and he'll be like,
Starting point is 01:05:43 yeah, that's kind of how my life is. Nerds coming up to me and saying that. Because I think he went uncredited in that role. I love Harold Ramis so much. I'm surprised that Leonard doesn't have it that the last line of the review is listen for Harold Ramis is the voice of the moose.
Starting point is 01:06:00 But you did say followed by three sequels starting with National Lampoon's European Vacation. And I picked this one instead of the other ones because... I don't know why. I have a fondness for Vegas Vacation. Really?
Starting point is 01:06:16 Yeah, I do. I like it. I like it a lot. Sid Caesar's in it. I like that one. You like it too, Leonard? Yeah, I do. Best friends.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Oh, wait. Now... Common ground. Now I have to look that one up. So I'm suspect about that. European vacation is really bad. That's the roughest one. It's got that awesome scene where they buy new clothes.
Starting point is 01:06:37 That's pretty sweet. I love how the kids change in all of them. Yeah. It's always different kids. Vegas vacation has by far the hottest daughter. Yeah. It's always different kids. That's got the... Vegas Vacation has by far the hottest daughter. Yeah. Weird.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I can say that because I was born in 1983, so it was never creepy for me to be attracted to them, except now. Right. I can't find it in here. It doesn't...
Starting point is 01:07:02 Did you not review it, buddy? No, no. It may not be under... It might be just Vegas Vacation. Because I can pull up it in here. Did you not review it, Leonard? No, no. It may not be under... It might be just Vegas Vacation. Because I can pull up my blog post. That might have been one where they backed off of the National Lampoon part. They might have thought,
Starting point is 01:07:14 young people don't know any better. Yep, it's just Vegas Vacation. And directed by Stephen Kessler, who directed a great documentary about Paul Williams. What are you... I looked it up, too. Not the Paul Williams. What's that? I looked it up too. Not the Paul Williams thing, but I just want you to guess.
Starting point is 01:07:28 After we guess what Leonard Maltin gave it, let's guess the Rotten Tomatoes score on Vegas Vacation. I just looked it up. Leonard gave it two and a half stars. Okay. And Rotten Tomatoes? 13%. I love the last line of most of your reviews
Starting point is 01:07:48 because in this case it says that's producer Jerry Weintraub as slick gambler Jilly from Philly News you can use I love it Alright, so Matt has a point We're playing to two points and since Leonard challenged Matt,
Starting point is 01:08:06 Claire gets to go first and pick a category. Okay. I'll give you some options. I'm ready. You're figuring out how this works, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're on top of it. I like it.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Would you like to play... Let's see. Let's do some more new ones. At BJ underscore Schwartz suggested Rocky's horrible picture show. And that's Sylvester Stallone movies that Leonard gave two or less stars. So everything but Rocky and First Blood. And then another option is at Adam underscore Moe. M-O-E suggested lucky number seven.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And that's a motion picture where a person in the movie has played that same part seven or more times. Oh. Wow. Yeah. That's interesting. It narrows it down to a few things. They never made a Frasier movie, though.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And then the third option is it's Donald Sutherland's birthday today, the great Donald Sutherland. Uh-huh. Kiefer's dad. And so the film's of Donald Sutherland.
Starting point is 01:09:15 So those are your options. Okay. Stallone, Sutherland, or same actor seven times. Let's go with the same actor seven times. I'm intrigued. Okay. The year is 2004.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Leonard gives it three stars. He says this movie is... Oh, Leonard, this is a tough one. Mostly just describing it. Oh, this movie has... is foreboding
Starting point is 01:09:51 and psychologically complex. There's two actors that he refers to. You say add spunk. Which spunk is right up there with misbegotten. From words people don't use very often. Unless you have a situation where you have some misbegotten spunk. It could happen.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Earmuffs, Leonard. I'm going to say something dirty. The next time I jizz on a lady, I'm going to say I apologize for the misbegotten spunk. Sorry. I mean, if it ever happens again. And Leonard lists... a lot of names. 21 names.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Oh, Jesus. Yeah, so you could start the bidding off with 21 if you'd like to hear them all. I'll say 21. Okay, and then we go to Leonard. Six. Six names. Six Six names It's the last six names
Starting point is 01:11:09 Of a 21 name movie Name it Leonard Alright He knows it Well he must have Wrote the fucking review I know the series I know the series
Starting point is 01:11:18 But I don't know which entry Yeah that's why I was hoping to trip you up Cause I don't know that shit Well you might have You might have a reasonable guess We'll see Your six names are Julie Christie Pam Ferris Yeah, that's why I was hoping to trip you up, because I know that shit. Well, you might have a reasonable guess. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Your six names are Julie Christie, Pam Ferris, Lenny Henry, Warwick Davis... Ah, bullshit! Don French, and David Bradley. And the movie is called... Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban that's correct nicely done yeah that is tough because that's my favorite one
Starting point is 01:12:04 personally and so I'd remember that but the other ones I'd be like Yeah, that is tough because that's my favorite one, personally. And so I'd remember that, but the other ones I'd be like, Harry Potter and the Chalice of Blood. Yeah. Harry Potter and the Chimney that Talks Shit. Matt's so sad over there. So upset about this.
Starting point is 01:12:28 You're doing the Sam Levine sulk. Oh! You know Sam Levine is why Leonard Maltin has appeared on the show many times is because they are long-time friends. How did you and Sam meet? Did we talk about that before? Through my daughter, Jessie.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Oh, Jessie and Sam are friends. How did you and Sam meet? Did we talk about that before? Through my daughter, Jessie. Oh, Jessie and Sam are friends. Yeah. Alright, so Claire, you still want to play this? You want to get in this? I do. You get to pick a category again. I do? Yeah, but this time we'll change the order and then we'll go to
Starting point is 01:12:59 Matt because he challenged on the last one. At Nate Hadley suggested whose line is it anyway? And that's movies where people do cocaine. Or Golden Shower's playbook. And that's movies that begin with P. Okay. The letter P, someone okay urinating but on a similar thing thank you for clarifying yes on a similar theme a feminist movement
Starting point is 01:13:34 and that's a movies where you see a woman on a toilet okay i'm not going to get into what they're doing necessarily could be sitting on it with the lid down. Which one of those would you like to play? I'm going to go with P. All right. Yeah. 1990 is the year. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:13:55 1980. Oh. Leonard calls this movie a bomb. At the end of the review, he recommends something else you should do instead of watching this movie. Which is what? What should I do instead? Fuck yourself. Done and done. It's good advice, Leonard.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He says this movie has a game cast, and he also says that it has alleged songs which is a really mean thing to say about a song is that it's allegedly a song oh my god and he lists eight names how many names do you think you can name this in claire eight in Claire. Eight. And I can't believe I didn't pick out from Breakfast Club or Go the lines about Claire that they say in those. It's a fat girl's name. Yeah, yeah. I should have picked one of those out
Starting point is 01:14:55 for Bane Game, but I missed that opportunity. Next time. Here's the deal, Claire. I'm going to say name that movie. She gets all the names? She's going to get all the names. She's getting all the names. She's going to get all the names.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Alright. I think she's going to be on the board. I feel good. I don't know. I like tying. I was very young when this came out. Alleged songs. It begins with the letter P. There's a game cast in this movie.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And Leonard says it's a bomb. And your eight names are Linda Hunt, Wesley Ivan Hurt, Richard Libertini, Beck and Bull, Paul Dooley, Paul Smith. Great name. Ray Walston, Shelley Duvall, and Robin Williams. Oh. And it begins with the letter P from 1980.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Oh my God. No coaching from the audience. Shame. Guys. I love everybody just encouraging her. It's not like something that's revived because it's celebrated every year at Christmas or something like that.
Starting point is 01:16:15 It's, you know. Oh, Leonard's throwing in an extra clue? Oh. Pay no attention to what I just said. I'm just saying it is a bomb Yeah I find it Peculiarly entertaining
Starting point is 01:16:31 I'll go with you on peculiar It's very strange But I have a feeling She's not going to pull it out I don't know It's called Popeye Oh god Yeah It is weird I don't know. It's called Popeye. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yeah. Yeah, it is weird. I agree that there are alleged songs in that movie. Yeah. And he's mine. I am, what's I am? You know what? I saw it recently, too, but it is so weird.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I just blocked it out. I think there's's a sharktopus at the end of it. I had post-traumatic stress, movie stress, after I saw it. I think he punches an octopus at the end. Yes, he does. But it's a musical, but it was directed by Robert Altman, which is an odd choice, because he does that Robert Altman thing where there's just a lot of overlapping dialogue and a lot of muttering. A lot of talky, talky.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Yeah, it's a very, very strange movie. And they filmed it in Malta. And they built a whole... Which brings me to the Leonard Malta game. Which brings me to the movie Hook. Because, Leonard, you have my back on the movie Hook. I am not a fan.
Starting point is 01:17:41 But people in the world, like some of these people here today, love that movie. Alright, alright. The people that applauded, if you go to the Fat Dog, which is a bar and restaurant in Los Angeles on Fairfax, Rufio
Starting point is 01:17:59 is a waiter. No he isn't. Rufio! Rufio! Rufio! Rufio! Rufio! Rufio! Rufio! I heard he does voiceovers now. You can do both. And I also... Someone tweeted to me that he's in San Diego right now.
Starting point is 01:18:18 The guy who played Rufio. Yeah, you can get time off. Somebody says he's in The Last Airbender. So? It sounds like somebody got drunk on oxygen, that title. Oh, the animated series, Last Airbender. He's the lead character? No.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. He's just some other guy? You know what you get for a session like that? Not enough. You gotta be a waiter. But they are showing in a week or two, they do this thing in Central Park every year where they have like five nights in a row
Starting point is 01:18:51 where they show, you know, great movies. And this year, one of the movies they're gonna show is Hook. By the way, for the record, it's a very dark bar and I could have been drunk. And he might not work. And also, how would you know what he looks like grown up? Google. It's a very dark bar, and I could have been drunk. And he might not work there. And also, how would you know what he looks like grown up? Google.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Oh, you saw him waiting tables, and when I think that's Rufio, and then you Googled his grown-up picture, and it matched? Or maybe I was with Jonah, and I binged it. I almost got through the whole show without having a coughing fit. But that one did it. So who asked her to name it? You did? Yeah, I sure did. Because you thought you were going to tie it up by doing that?
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah, but turns out you didn't come through. No, I didn't. Terrible strategy, but it means you're the winner, Matt. What? I feel... I don't feel like a winner. They just applauded for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:01 You are. And so where did you get that name tag from? You went way back there, right? Oh my God, you just won all the stuff I didn't want in my house anymore. And that awesome Japanese of mice and men. Of mice and men?
Starting point is 01:20:16 What's it called? Of mice and magic. Tell us about the rabbits, Leonard. Lenny. All right, come get it where's Jarrett come on up here
Starting point is 01:20:31 there you go oh my god a copy of the book too nice very nice you may have your sign back very good. Thank you for being here. You're welcome. I didn't notice that the Catch Jeremy If You Can name tag,
Starting point is 01:20:55 which is the Catch Me If You Can DVD with stuff put on it, but it says at the bottom, from the genius that brought you Hook. It all comes around. But Catch Me If You Can is actually one of my favorites. Speaking of the Spielberg situation, do you remember, Doug, who we sat behind when we saw Super 8 at Paramount?
Starting point is 01:21:21 No. That guy right there. Leonard was there? Yes. And we were both like, it's Leonard Poulton. But I already knew him at that point. I know, but he was busy talking. You're like, I'm not going to bother him.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Oh, okay. Sorry, Leonard. We would have, but Doug's shy. What did you think of Super 8, by the way? I like Super 8. Me too. Yeah. It's like someone decided to make another Spielberg movie.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I like the sincerity of Super 8 it's very sincere yes and the kid actors are all very good it reminded me of his earlier films not Hook although some of those kids are pretty good the little black kid that can roll up in a ball
Starting point is 01:21:58 he's pretty awesome because I did just I revisited Hook just because I was shocked that people love it so much. To make sure you were right. Yeah, it is insane how long it is
Starting point is 01:22:11 and how overly hammered every point in the film, every point the movie's trying to make, they just, they cannot let it, it takes forever. But do you think
Starting point is 01:22:20 because you were interrupting it that maybe you thought worse of it? Well, that's why I want people that watch it in the park, in Central Park, to tweet at me and let me know that they fell asleep in the park. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Because it is a long, boring movie. And when Rufio comes in, it gets fun for a while. Yeah. But then, you know, you know what happens to Rufio. Rufio, if you're out there not waiting tables,
Starting point is 01:22:41 let's be friends. Also, if you're waiting tables, why not? Where's Jeremy? We need Jeremy to supply a shithead. Open the DVD. Oh, open the DVD. Clever. It's a three-dimensional
Starting point is 01:22:55 situation. Oh, okay. It's an interesting one. Just read the cast list of Cashmere. Do you have any plugs, Matt? Tune in to... Oh, I'm not on TV anymore. G4 doesn't exist. Thank you very much. We got rid
Starting point is 01:23:14 of that real quick. Attack of no show. Tune in to the Esquire Network. Nice. If you want to dress weird. Yeah, follow me on Twitter, and also go to youtube.com work. Nice. If you want to dress weird. Yeah. Follow me on Twitter at Matt
Starting point is 01:23:27 Myra and also go to YouTube dot com slash Nerdist and click subscribe. Thank you Doug. Fair enough. Claire what's going on.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Well it's my Twitter. Very complicated. At Claire Kramer. That's how we met. I was so excited. For some reason I clicked on your when I saw your name on the you excited. For some reason, I clicked on your,
Starting point is 01:23:45 when I saw your name on the, you know, who to follow or whatever, I clicked on it, saw you were following me. I got so excited and I wrote to you, like, I'm so excited
Starting point is 01:23:53 that you're following me and I followed you back and then like a month or two went by and then you wrote back to me and said, I don't check my Twitter. No.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Doug. That was a pleasant surprise. No, it's the direct messages. Yeah, you don't check those. Claire, I want you to know that is a very big deal if Doug follows you because he keeps it at 420. I only follow 420 people.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Well, as soon as I realized he had sent me a message, I messaged right away and then didn't I message you back within minutes yesterday? Yeah. So I'm back on track. But now I got the digits. Yep. So I'm good.
Starting point is 01:24:32 So look for Claire at her booth all weekend long at Comic-Con. I'm here. I'm doing an indie film panel tomorrow, or no, Friday night, and doing my podcast from the Geek Nation booth. Go to The Walking Dead, turn around, go find us.
Starting point is 01:24:50 That's that. That's an awesome spot you got there. Leonard, what's going on? Official book signing Friday afternoon, 2.30 in the Autograph area in Pavilion D. I'm twittering it at Leonard Maltin.
Starting point is 01:25:09 And my website where I post my movie reviews and thoughts about movie books and movie DVDs is leonardmaltin.com. And the 2014 edition of your review book will come out when? It'll be out around Labor Day. It's officially a September release in two sizes of paperback as well as eventually the new app. And we'll hopefully see you back on the show then to promote it.
Starting point is 01:25:32 You bet. If you'll have me, I'll be happy to be here. Let's hear it for all these guys. Claire Kramer, Matt Myra, Leonard Malden. I thought with I thought with how the world's been going of late like in the last week or so that the shitheads would be very political and it turns out I am right
Starting point is 01:25:54 as always vomiting is a shithead and every pigeon on earth is a shithead

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