Doug Loves Movies - Mark Ellis, BenDavid Grabinski and Greg Wyshynski guest

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

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Sometimes this is a standalone edition. Sometimes it's themed. Sometimes it's not. I've got a theme for today, and I'll share it after i say the names of my guests they are mark ellis ben david grabinski and greg wischinski hello gentlemen hello always a pleasure mr benson let's meet everybody individually and alphabetically mark ellis is here mo down what do you know down i'm sorry greg i didn't make your last name well it's just it's it's bringing back pts danger elementary school okay so hey look having an e last name is a pretty sweet spot to be in

because you're never the first kid so you get you get a couple opener kids and then teacher calls your name and you're like ready to go you can crack a joke it really the e last name opens up a world of possibilities doug it's a pleasure to be joined by uh you once again and the last time i was on your show i was in the great city of seattle and now as it happens i'm once again in the great city of se. Oh, okay. It is a great city. It's awesome. It's not raining right now. Yeah, that's good. They've had a bit of a stretch there of no rain. It's been strange. You'd think there's some sort of change happening to the climate. What?

There's something different than there used to be. Yeah, it's strangely changing, but you know, in a good way, if you're there visiting, because boy, I was up in the Pacific Northwest and the weather was nice and warm and sunny the entire time. It didn't rain

a drop, but like when you turn on the TV, they're like, oh my God, what's happening? Will we ever have rain again? You know? So it's nice to visit, but it's weird. It's, you know, people there aren't used to it. Yes, I highly recommend Seattle before the apocalypse to all of your listeners. Yeah, it's a good it's a good spot. You are a dangling champion on the show. I believe that means that you won on a particular episode

and couldn't come back on the next show. So I've just been waiting to slot you back in. Does that feel familiar? That sounds right. And that sounds like really the Mark Ellis life story. Dangling champion where he just couldn't show up to get his trophy. Yeah. Well, you're going'll be up against it

today because we have going for his fifth win in as many shows consecutively uh potentially tying claire kramer's record setting run if he wins today it's ben david grabinski hello ben david uh hey it seems like you brought in like professional trivia people to play me this time so i'm a little worried like as much as i may have a benefit for my last name ending with ski which i didn't really track that discussion uh i feel like today is going to be a challenge. I think I've challenged you again and again, and you rise above the challenge every time. If this was a sporting event or a, you know, trivia schmo down, Mark Ellis would really be talking it up.

The way that he does that, that reminds me of a question for you, Mark. Why don't, why aren't you uh you know hosting a um diarrhea slip and slide show well i mean the pitch is there we're just we're waiting to hear back from the suits and look here's the thing people got to remember is that yes i i co-created a really uh cool trivia show, the movie trivia show down. But I haven't competed in it in like five years. I just ask the questions. And so when you ask the questions and you have the answer right in front of you, it actually makes you dumber at movie trivia. So I've had five years of increasingly being a moron when it comes to film.

So I barely remember anything now. If that makes Gregor Band David feel any better. Yeah, this is a real can drew carrie win the pricing games scenario we're watching here they should do that at the olympics is have before each event have uh before they perform their event the person explain why they'll lose if they lose i think they should actually all the judges should do the competition before it starts that's what it should be yes the people who are like usually giving them a 10 that's like see how good you can do it jump and just see how that goes

also joining us frequent guests on the show don't know how many wins also he likes hockey it's greg wischinski hey greg i mean it hockey is kind of a career uh jug i am the senior hockey writer for our friends at espn uh frequent guest on the 12 guests of christmas show yeah that's what I'm saying is you straddle both worlds. You do it beautifully. For a hockey enthusiast, you also just seem to know as much about movies. And so that's always fun to have you on the show because you're competitive, but, you know, have some limitations.

What would you say your limitations are as a movie trivia person? Should I be telling you this? Oh, I guess not. It's definitely Star Wars and Marvel movies. Don't ask me a damn thing about those things, Doug. I don't know. No, I it's yeah, I love doing the show. And I think probably like one of the few sports adjacent people that you've had in the show, correct?

Yeah, it happens sometimes. Oh, I just saw a professional wrestler that follows me. So maybe track him down and see if he wants to do this show, because he probably, even the WWE probably has rules against smoking weed. They'll probably want to be on the movie tribute show and not the pot show. Is it a WWE wrestler

or is it one of the wrestlers that wrestles in matches where they're breaking each other with fluorescent bulbs? Because those guys probably could go on the weed show, I'm guessing. I think there should be a wrestler who's like Weed Man, who's just too stoned to compete. That's a really good opportunity. Yeah, the trouble is they'd still want to hit you over the head with a folding chair or something.

You'd still have to be able to take it, even if you didn't fight anybody. Because just showing up and being a non-fighting character is really a uphill battle in the world of wrestling after seeing the movie the wrestler though i gotta think literally every wrestler that ever lived has to have some sort of relationship with marijuana after a match oh i'd imagine well just the that or painkillers are both i just watched two full seasons of dark side of the ring uh which is all about all the dark sides of the ring and it feels like every single wrestler drank a lot and was addicted to prescription meds uh yeah so it'd be a lot cooler if there was just like a lot of like oh yeah he was just

high all the time but no there was actually a whole bottle there was actually uh wrestling movie news this week doug uh that vince mcmahon himself is making a film about vince mcmahon and his steroid trial in the 1990s. That's a very exciting thing. Fantasy casting Vince McMahon in a Vince McMahon movie. Oh, that's going to be unbiased and impartial. I am a big fan though, Doug. So I'm not, I don't work in professional sports, like in the same capacity Greg does,

but everybody up here in Seattle is very excited about the Kraken. So Greg, what's the over under how many years do the Seattle folk have to wait before their first NHL Stanley cup? Well, the last team that we invited into the league is Doug knows was the Vegas golden Knights and they made the Stanley cup final in their first season. Yeah. I was like, damn those golden Knights.

Look at them go. But there's a healthy amount golden knights look at them go but there's a healthy amount of skepticism that maybe the kraken haven't done as well as the golden knights and amassing their talent in the expansion draft so i would say three or four years but here's the thing about the kraken great name also movie adjacent but they had the absolute perfect hockey name that they didn't take which which is the Seattle Sockeyes. It's a fish and also people punching each other in the face. Yeah, but given the history of hockey fans, they would have been throwing Sockeyes on the ice before, during, and after.

Literally every game. I'm excited because it is movie adjacent, Doug, the Kraken. And I will put any amount of money on this opening night in October, when all the lights go down to introduce the home team, they're going to play like a cool montage to pump the fans up. They're going to play that. That's the last thing you're going to see before they introduced the team is Liam Neeson saying,

release the Kraken. I guarantee it. If it was a sock eyes, the logo would be a fish with a black eye right that would be pretty dope pretty pretty dope right yeah that's still right but can't you just sort of underground it and like make it like you know you could lead the charge to just everybody referring to them as the sockeyes whether they like it or not you could do that especially or not you know and then you know go down to you know uh pike place and uh you know doctor videos so that people are

walking away with black eyes from getting hit in the face this fish perfect perfect by the way mark based on based on his last like four or five, I'd say there's probably three to one odds that Liam Neeson shows up for the home opener based on his movie. Yeah, you just got to make sure there's snow. If there's snow on the ground, Liam Neeson wants to be there. Oh, I like it. It's wild how every movie he's in has a wintry setting. What does he do in the summers?

He goes to shovel the driveway and there's no snow there and he curses the sky yeah he sure does oh my god i i can't i i think someday somebody i mean maybe they already have a super cut of every time liam neeson has explained to someone that they're dying and talk them through the process it's a it's pretty amazing and he and he does it in more than than one genre but we have to take a break already but when we get back we're going to visit recommendation nation uh right after these messages for you we're back time to go to recommendation nation ben david grabinskiinski, you know this is coming. Your choices are always excellent movies, but controversial.

River's Edge at press time was kicking ass in the poll, and you picked that last show. So congratulations on that. What's your recommendation today uh i'm still tempted to recommend happily but i won't so what i'm gonna recommend this week is a fish called wanda nice oh speaking of fishes and black eyes holy crap yeah man it's just it felt like not everything i don't know if it has sockeyes in it because i don't know what the fuck a sockeye is but it could be because there's a lot of actual fish

oh it's a salmon yeah man i am just fucking fish illiterate uh but but but uh you know terry palin does have a black eye at one point i believe he does uh he gets that stuff so a fish called wanda is uh a caper movie with a lot of monty python people uh you got john cleese jamie lee curtis famously not part of monty python uh and kevin klein at his absolute best It's one of the funniest movies ever made, and it's about people who rob some diamonds, and then a fish swallows the diamonds or something. Anyway, the whole point is Kevin Kline is really, really funny as a dumb American who doesn't want to be considered dumb,

and I think it's actually the funniest John Cleese. Anything I can say about it, if you're one of five people who hasn't seen it, I just don't want to ruin any dumb. And I think it's actually the funniest John Cleese. And anything I can say about it, if you're like one of five people who hasn't seen it, I just don't want to ruin any of the jokes, but I guarantee you'll laugh a lot. And if you don't, I don't know what's wrong with you. So fish call. Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong with you? Might be just watching it at home alone. Cause I don't, I don't think it's like a laugh. You know, it's not one of those constant laugh movies. It's more, it's all based in, you know, situations and the, the characters and it's yeah. Kevin Kline won best sporting actor for,

I believe it might be his only Oscar for that. And he's just, he's one of the best, but it's not for animal lovers. Yes, it is. I mean, as an animal lover, that is both funny and also not at all funny. Yeah. It hits extra hard in both directions. Yeah.

I believe, you know, amusingly enough, I think Paget bruce drawn a previous episode not the one she was on with you ben david but another one i believe fish called wanda was her choice so it is uh it is uh continuing to live on and get referenced and that's always uh nice mark ellis recommend a movie well based on Fish Called Wanda, I'm tempted to take the follow up that some of the Monty Python members attempted called Mom and Dad Saved the World. But it just wasn't all that good. So I think I'm going to go with the movie. My last theater movie was I got to go to a advanced screening of the M. Night Shyamalan movie Old. And I really liked it. I thought it was cool. It was good

filmmaking. The cast played their roles very well. It was unnerving and I liked how the story winds and zigs and zags. Okay. It's nice to hear that it has more than one zig, it sounds like. Zigging and zagging. Sounds like it's Zigs and Zags and maybe Zigs again. You know, M. Night Shyamalan, people love to M. Night shit all over him, but he's, you know, he's made some really good movies, I think.

He just, I don't know. I just think getting, just being the twist person is just such a weird thing to be stuck with you know yeah yeah it's a tough thing you always feel like you got to live up to it but like because he had he had like such a such a decline for a minute but then he just made a par putt with the visit and i really liked the visit and i thought that was like oh this is the guy again and since then he's kind of like stuck to what he what he knows audiences sort of expect with his movies but he's done it in unique ways with every subsequent film and so i just i i like having people like that have success because it's always a sort of event

when you get to go see one of their movies okay it's on the it's uh it's it's officially your recommendation i just want to circle back to the unofficial sequel to a fish called wanda was mom and dad saved the world well it had eric idol in it and it had i don't know i can't remember who was it michael palin somebody else i mean it was you know john lovitz yeah it was john lovitz and I think like Terry Garr or something. But the thing is, there really was kind of an unofficial sequel that did have the same four people called Fierce Creatures, I think. Oh, right. That's it. Right.

Yeah. So that's why I was thrown by. I didn't know if you were making a joke or you were just it couldn't be more wrong. Sometimes it's both. Yeah greg washinsky what's your recommendation today i'm happy that we're not doing the last movie you saw a bit because then i'd have to say mortal combat and i don't want to talk about that movie i don't either was as a rough one for uh for a man of my age um so I'm going to go back. I've always wanted to talk about this movie

on this podcast, actually, because I really love it, and I don't know if anybody remembers it. So in the vein of Spinal Tap, there was a parody documentary, or mockumentary as it were, called The Making of And God Spoke. It's 1993. Remember that

movie? Yeah, I've seen it. 1993. It's streaming. you can get it on like apple and stuff and it's basically a parody of these two guys making a biblical epic and not all of it works there's a lot of really funny stuff in it like they run out of money and have to start putting product placement into their biblical epic of like, you know, cans of Coke and stuff. And it's got a really weird ass cast. Soupy Sales, Lou Ferrigno and Eve Plum from the Brady Bunch are in it. And if you like the mockumentary stuff,

if you like the Christopher Guest stuff and the Spinal Tap stuff, you might want to check this out. It's a really weird, fun movie, but it's one that I always really enjoyed and I feel like it's kind of been lost to time because it came out in like 93. Yeah, and it has that title. It's not a catchy title. Say it again. It's called, I believe the full title is The Making of And God Spoke,

but you might be able to also find it as And God Spoke. but you might be able to also find it as and God spoke. And again, it's just, it's just a really fun, cheesy kind of Hollywood satire that, that has some really big laughs in it for sure. I, I really enjoyed that flick and have caught up with it in the last few years and it still kind of holds up. All right. Toopy sales. I mean, Hollywood legend, right?

Yeah. Yeah. He was called Soupy because he got that nickname as a little kid because his older brothers all had nicknames that had a similar cadence to them. And it wasn't because it's fondness for soup or anything actually soup-related.

It was just a sound thing. Great story, Doug. Listen. We've got to go to another break. That's what I was thinking about. What would be more interesting than this story I'm telling right now oh i know another advertisement for something that the listeners need so thank you for your recommendations

games are next we'll be right back we're back and it's game time let's start with something called How Long Is It? It's a popular game on the show where I'll name a thing, and then each of you guess how long it is. Now, we're going to start with Mr. Ellis, and then go to Ben David, and then to Greg. And just remember, this is sort of a warm-up game. It's not that important to win. You just get to go first in the next game,

which isn't always necessarily an advantageous position. Do you want me to try or not? Do you want me to – it seems like you want me to sandbag this answer, Doug. Why? What do you mean? Well, because the next game, the next game, maybe it's advantageous to go last. So maybe, I don't know. Oh yeah. I don't, I don't know. I feel like it's not, to be honest, I don't feel like there's a true,

it's more a luck of the draw deal with this next game, like first or last. I don't know if that really is going to matter. Well, it really doesn't matter for me anyway, because I want to win everything. Yeah, you want to go first if you're going to absolutely know answers to things, but the questions are not easy. So it's sometimes better to just lay back and get the point with,

but let the other person fail. You know what I mean? But in this particular game closest without going over wins prices, rise style. And the question today, the thing I want you to tell me how long it is, is Forrest Gump's epic run. Remember how in the movie there was a period of time where he ran and he ran and he ran. Then they told us out loud exactly how many years, months, days and hours the Forrest Gump character ran back and forth across the United States. back and forth across the United States.

So in years, months, days, and hours, if you want to be that specific, how long was it starting with Mark Ellis? Oh my God. Now realizes that going first is not always a good thing. I thought you were going to ask for like the running time of the movie Forrest Gump cup and i'm like this is uh this is great though i love love the concept of this game and i think that i think forest i think i remember from the movie forest running for four years

um so i'm gonna say four years three months uh two weeks and five days wow that was specific yeah i didn't yeah i you know what you don't need to do weeks okay then i'll do four years and three months that That's too bad. I was really hoping it'd be one day over. Yeah, that would be, that'd be a hilarious mistake. Greg, Greg is going, if Greg's going last, he can just do one day and real prices. I was going to literally just add a day to your number.

That was going to be my guess. Now I'm robbed of my joke all right very uh very price is right of you to try to do that you know you could also you could also just bid one second or one you know minute uh i guess one hour is probably the lowest you'd want to go considering i said it's in years, months, days, and hours. So, you know, it's at least more than an hour. Ben David, what do you want to go with? What do you think? Do you like what's first going to play? Cause that movie for you, is that something you're fond of?

You know, I have like sentimental feelings about it, but I have a struggle with how right wing the movie is. Cause it's sort of the whole movie is forest being smarter than like every activist or political person. Right. And then the one woman who's trying to just be free, like, gets like the worst kind of AIDS, I i think like it's got a very uh the movie's a little rude to people who are democrats and women but it has a fresh soundtrack of songs i've never heard in other movies so that really goes a long way for me. It's a, he's an enjoyable filmmaker.

There's no getting around it, but like, even when the movie came out and everybody loved it, including me, I did love it at first. I still rolled my eyes hard into the back of my head when he gets splashed with mud and it makes a smiley face on his shirt. And then smiley face shirts become popular.

That was where I was like, okay. And that's pretty deep, pretty deep into the movie before the AIDS. You're like before that I'm in wait, wait, wait. I'm just out. It had some charming things in it for sure but it's just it's especially now as time marches forward it does get weirder and more uh it seems like less and less like a movie for everybody yeah and i guess the real thing that movie has and i mean this earnestly is like the score is so effective and emotional that i don't know if the movie actually

is or not but you're sort of if you're like getting the vibe of that movie it really is like sad and stuff but you know uh great original soundtrack so just you know that's really my all my feelings up forrest gump i mean that summer i think I was more like into the shadow or something. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you know, it's pretty good. The box of chocolates thing becoming ubiquitous was a problem too. Like it just kind of, it filtered through pop culture for like the next three years and became, you know, you go to the shore and find box of chocolate t-shirts, which is a little bit too much.

It's a little bit like Austin powers where like, yeah, that line was good, but to hear it a bunch outside of the movie diminishes the impact yeah and everybody can do the impression because they just say the line exactly the way the character says it and the character it's always a character with a you know outrageous voice you know the best thing about forrest gump is also this is the second time i've had 9-11 trivia on this show. They wrote a Forrest Gump 2, and when 9-11 happened, apparently the writer and Zemeckis called each other, and they were like, the world has changed.

We shouldn't make a Forrest Gump 2, and they didn't. Oh. So you're trying to find a weird silver lining in what happened? Yeah. No. So you're trying to find a weird silver lining in the, what happened? No, it was just trivia, man. Oh, okay. Sorry. It usually goes Patriot Act and then Forrest Gump 2 in that order. Wouldn't you need a Forrest Gump sequel more than ever after 9-11?

Cause like Forrest goes to space. Like, isn't that something we can all rally around? Yeah, I don't understand that attitude. Like, oh, you know, it's not the right time. Unless they're going to put him on one of the planes or something. Well, the Patriot Act is why we didn't get Joe vs. the Volcano 2.

The reason we didn't get a lot of Tom Hanks sequels is because of these situations. Right. He couldn't travel to the volcano. Yeah, obviously. And directly led to the terminal, ironically, as well. But that dude that wrote and directed Volcano had a bad experience directing the movie, even though I think it turned out brilliantly.

He had a bad experience. He didn't direct again for a while, but he's written a lot of good stuff. And his most recent movie, that Green Mountain Time or something like that. Oh my God, that movie. It's not good. Well, if I told you why it wasn't the twist ending,

it is the greatest twist ending in the history of movies. And if I told you right now, you'd think I made it up. Yeah. Oh, I gotta watch it now. I'm gonna watch it now for sure you're gonna you're gonna fall off your couch but i just love that john patrick shanley wrote moonstruck and then also wrote congo yeah that's it like the guy who wrote moonstruck wrote congo and i think they're like a really good double feature he's got a few uh he's got some interesting uh credits as a writer and of course i've uh really liked uh some of his plays and uh so i was psyched about this movie you know friend of the show john

ham is in it and uh foe of the show amy adams is in it and um yeah i don't know uh what happened i just lost steam on it because the reviews weren't good, but now this twist ending things got me so excited because there's, there's so rarely a good twist ending anymore. You know, because they just telegraph, you know, there's just, there's always, they always need to tell you that it's going to happen, you know, somehow. Oh, so, so it's Ben Davis heard the bit. We're playing a game yeah we're playing a game you guys uh i'm gonna guess uh four years and four months all right i got my month window window. Yeah, it really is. It really is tight. Greg, what are you,

what are you going to do with this? One hour, Doug. You know what? I really respect your play. And I, you know, if I were a good host and time this out, I would take a break right now before revealing these very exciting results but uh that's not how it's gonna go so i'm just gonna tell you that greg wins oh good yay or uh-oh i don't know yet because mark uh led ben david and himself astray with the four years thing. Was it two years?

According to my sources, three years, two months, 14 days, and 16 hours. Wow. All right. Yeah. Man, Mark, why'd you do that to me? Hey, look, I had the Jackson Browne song in my head, and I was just thinking about the, you know, wiping your face and coming up with a bumper sticker slogan. He did a lot of things during that three years that most,

most humans that would have taken you four years and three months. Right. Um, but we still have, uh, Greg Wyshynski is our winner, which means I'm so excited about this. You get to go first. And our next, last, and most important game of the day, it's the OCB game presented by OCB Rolling Papers. Hey, everybody. Today's show is presented by our friends OCB Rolling Papers

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leading winners like Sir Ben David Grabinski, it's good to not, you know, play the one version of the OCB game, rolling with it. It's good not to play that, you know, too frequently because, you know, you get too good at the strategy of it. And so I'm going to mix it up with what's merely called the OCB game for this

reason. Each question I ask of you all in this game, the answer is either O C or B. The OCB game. All right. Yeah. I'm going to kill this one man i think so i think you're gonna play that uh first person gets a question answer o c or b get it wrong the next person has it narrowed down to just two possibilities so they have a chance to get a point. If they get it wrong, the third person gets the gimme. And then the next round starts with the first person to get.

Wow. Yeah. First to three points wins. Or two if we're running behind. I think we're doing good. to three points wins or two if we're running behind. I think we're doing good. Hey, Mark, I just want to note that going first blows

actually. Hey, look, there's a reason why Ben David and I went four years. We wanted to be certain. I should have said like a millennium there are some there are some games where being first is really valuable like if it's a poll where there's like an obvious winner but this probably isn't one of them yeah and i don't know

how tough these questions are but i do know that i'm going to be tough on the amount of time you get before answering so you uh please answer within about uh 10 seconds or less when i call on you okay yeah yeah i mean you're getting you're getting a tiny little bit of schmodown timing in you doug well you know some of these games like if you you know it's very easy for somebody to filibuster their way to a correct answer. On this show, no. By just chatting about it for a bit, you know, or doing a riff about it. So, which I, you know, I encourage, it's supposed to be a fun show,

but give me your answer quickly and then riff all you want after that. Mark Ellis. Oh, wait, I got to write down one more thing. I didn't write down a place for you guys to accrue your points. And it's, it's Greg's going first, I believe, but. Okay. But if you wanted to ask me something else, I'm here for you. You had it right. You had it right, Doug, actually. No, it's Greg. It's Greg and Mark, then Ben, David.

I'm not a hundred. I'm not 100% sure I understand how this works. Maybe I'll figure it out after you get up there. You'll be like, oh, this is how it works. Like 20 minutes after we're done with the show. Okay. And it's O, C, and B as in B.

B as in Jerry Seinfeld's B movie. There's another B movie that recently came out, Ben David. Wait, what? Oh, no comment. No comment. Okay. Okay. Greg, here's your first question.

Answer O, C, or B. Julia Roberts lends her voice to an animated movie that starts with O, C, or B. The title of this movie starts with O, C, or B. Which one is it? I will go B. B is incorrect. So now we

go to Mark. And that leaves you with O or C. Julia Roberts animated movie. She doesn't do a lot of them. Just a couple by my count. One of them starts with O or C. Julia Roberts animated movie. She doesn't do a lot of them. Just a couple by my count. One of them starts with O or C. Which letter is it?

Yeah, I think it is C, Doug. All right. You do not have to explain why you're guessing C. You can wait until I tell you whether or not it's right or wrong. I like the way you're playing this very coy yeah which also begins with the letter c c is correct what's the name of the movie mark um that's where i might need a little more than 10 seconds well there's no bonus point or anything for saying charlotte's web she's the voice oh right he's the voice of the web in charlotte's web she's like ow ow quit stepping

on me charlotte okay um right she was also a voice in the ant bully huh interesting great position it's a great position if you can get it to be being an ant bully yeah i mean aren't we all deep down deep down i try to be cool with them but you know sometimes you just gotta say nope um we're trying to have a picnic here ants what just happened i'll tell you what just happened mark ellis is on the board with one point then david grabinski was locked out of that one but he gets to go first on this next question a real brain tickler a real brain tickler ben david steven spielberg's 23rd feature film as director

give or take a movie or two begins depending on what you define as a movie begins with what letter O, C, or B. 23 movies into Stevie's career which one do you think

it is Ben David? I don't like this one. Right? There's so much you have to go through in your head in so little time. I know. Fuck. It's one of those kick yourself when you find out. I'm kicking myself already.

Yeah. O, C, or B? Just pick one. B. B is incorrect. Well, I'm finally done. I'm going to lose.

We go to Greg. Boy, I really thought it was B, actually. There's lots more game to come. I thought it was B, too. I thought it was B, too. I thought it was b2 i'll go c you're going c yeah serious about this the incorrect b is off the board which is the one that i thought it was going to be all right if you're going c then that is correct the film is called Catch Me If You Can.

Yeah, I was really thinking it was because he did. I think he did. Oh, are we doing those in this one? Is that the deal or no? I was with Greg. I was going BFG. Yeah, but he did Bridge of Spies like right around there. I thought it was one of those two.

Yeah, that's why I didn't be. There's like two. But if you do the math now in your heads catch me if you can came quite a few years before all those bees and no o's in his entire filmography wow um but that means that greg is also on the board with one point and mark Mark is first up. Ready, Mark? Yes, sir. Idris Elba. Just

everybody is saying amazing in the Suicide Squad. Idris Elba plays the police chief who is a yak or some shit in Zootopia. That's his last name? He's like chief of police. He's a police chief.

Does his last name begin with an O, a C or a B? Oh man, that is a deep cut, Doug. Or, you know, have a kid watch Zootopia too many times. No, I'll take the loss. Thank you. I'm going to say that his last name starts with O. He plays a cop. I'm going to guess there's some sort of Irish heritage,

like an O'Malley situation. Okay. Here's my response to that. Incorrect. Damn. I was really hoping that his last name was or some shit and Doug was actually giving it away in the question.

If you have a kid, does that mean you automatically know the last name of every supporting character? No, but we, you know, another way to look at it is that if you were a kid when, you know, obviously Zootopia, you weren't a kid, but you probably know the last names of some classic animated characters. This is like, you know, I mean, Zootopia is a big deal to some people, not to us.

I don't know Timon or Pumbaa's last names, but, uh, Johnson, right. You know, two out of two of their first names. All right. So I'm just going to guess B. That is correct. Oh, you did it get this go ahead no no no I got nothing oh okay

his name is Chief Bogo and I think without doing any research that that is a nod to Chief Bogomil or rather Lieutenant Bogomil in the uh beverly hills cop movies wow yep i'd co-sign that all right that seems super obvious i love finding those and uh that means that ben david is on the board we've got a three-way tie so much for you're

gonna lose today ben david you are in the mix i bet you you 50 bucks I lose, but let's go. Okay. I'm in the hub. I love that bet. Wait, do I, um, I gotta pay you. I gotta pay you. I'm having you back on again. Wait a second. Okay. You know, I've listened to the last couple of episodes and this, this negging thing that you do when you are going to win a game and all of a sudden it's like i don't know i might not win yeah seems pretty effective and i don't know if it's psychological warfare against me and mark or if it's just to psych yourself up to win what is it uh it's established it's a hustle based on the color of money yeah and that's just my approach so yeah interesting all right yeah i

think that's why a hundred percent honest i think that ben david is is kicking himself and is so thrilled that he knew the last name of the cop in zootopia i think that secretly that's like a big thing in his life well that means zootopia zootopia 2 will start with chief bogo getting killed and then they have to solve that murder yeah there is not enough murder in zootopia for sure um let's go to uh greg again greg you start us off on this next one all right um harrison ford has made more movies that begin with the letter o c or b and movies that begin with the letter O, C, or B, and movies that begin with the word the begin with T. So that takes them all out of the running.

Takes them off the running. Somebody mentioned it earlier. I'm sorry that I didn't mention it. I forgot that I was playing with professionals who, of course, would take that into account because, you know, T is such, who of course would take that into account because you know, T is such the word, the is just so,

so prevalent in film titles from the jaws to the deja vu. Okay. I was going to say, is it the full question? Yeah. Yeah. Harrison Ford, more movies to begin with O C or B. C.

C is correct. Yes. Hang on, hang on. I don't know how that got in the other room. Maybe the dog. O, the letter O, goose egg, Harrison Ford, maybe it's a superstition thing he's never messed with it no o titles it was just b2 right i think and b would be both blade runners right okay yeah that's where his bees come from and then not his bonnet and And then the letter C three times clear and present danger crossing over and cowboys and aliens. And I want more. I call the wild was one too.

The call of the wild. Oh, is it the call of the wild? Well, I sure is. I just, I just goofed my way. I stumbled into this one, Doug. I just goofed my way. I stumbled into this one, Doug. Also the conversation. So if you allow those Harrison Ford really went crazy with the C word and you made five C word movies and who got the point on that one? That was Mark. I got it. Ben, I was David, Ben, David. No, I got it. Ben? David? Ben David? No, I did not. I believe it was

Greg, Doug. I hate to give him credit, but he knew it. See, I told you guys before we started that your voices all sound similar. This is bound to happen, but I'm glad we worked it out. Greg has two points. Mark has one. Ben

David has one. Mark, you're up first in this one that really worked out good going first and that last one for greg he nailed it yeah see what you can do with this kind of kind of again just stumbled my way into it the call of the wild who knew who knew Mark The Coen Brothers Have never made a movie That begins With O, C, or B

Which of those letters have never Been the first letter In the title of a Coen Brothers film I'm counting the movies they've Produced and directed together and taken co-credit. What do you think?

Oh, boy. I think that they have never made a movie that starts with the letter C. That is correct. And, oh, brother, have they gone crazy with the letter... O is only, oh, brother, where art thou?

But the letter B is absolutely nuts. Blood Simple, Martin Fink, Burn After Reading, The Ballad of Buster scruggs the big lebowski they like the letter b in their titles those brothers those brothers are fond of the letter b and bark has another point this is really shaping up in an exciting way ben david gets to go first in the next round he could turn this into a three-way tie if he could just figure this one out quickly and correctly. The second movie, Ben David, that has Brad Pitt and George Clooney in it, begins, the title begins with what letter?

O, C, or B? Second movie. The second movie that Brad Pitt and George Clooney both appear in. As we know, they worked together several times. What was the second one? What did it begin with? O, C, or B? Give me your answer, please.

Oh, no. I know it's not O because I'm forgetting something, but I can't think of what the fuck it is, so I'm just going to have to say O. O is, I'm sorry gonna have to say oh oh is i'm sorry incorrect wow we go to greg that's that's a that's a c or b uh god um the okay there's got to be. I'll take C. Yep. The second movie that they worked on together, one directed, and they both don't have huge parts in, but they're both in it.

It's called Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. That was because Burn After Reading came after Ocean's, at least Ocean's 12. So I knew it couldn't have been that yeah i figured it was something i was i didn't i knew i knew that they were in another movie together but i could not remember which one it was it was i totally could not remember those confessions that was that was a pure function of having gone after you man because if you took oceans 12 off the board so i figured it was something i was missing yeah exactly it's definitely a mislead there because of course they were in three oceans movies together and um and then but

as far as the b letter goes the two of them together was only burn after reading which would be their fifth movie together and they haven't been in a movie both of them in the same movie again since since that movie uh but guess what greg roshinsky oh my god you just ended an amazing run oh i feel great but horrible grabinsky roshinsky takes down grabinsky it's uh it's mark ellis right there to see it all happen. Do we all owe Ben 50 bucks now? Oh, wait. Is that how that works? Did I make you sad? I think Greg should have to pay Ben more because he won. Yeah, no, that's fair. But I'm wondering, did I make you sad or is this freeing?

Did I free you? Well, that's a great question. Ben David Grabinski, how do you, how do you, this is like the post game interview where you finally lost a run of games. How are you, how are you feeling about it? I feel like Moses, when he didn't get to enter the promised land, I just am sort of staring off into the distance. Well, you know, four wins is nothing to sneeze at, as they say,

because the only person that's got more wins than you at this point is Claire Kramer with five, and then there's a few people with three, two, and one down behind you. But you are currently in second place on the leaderboard, and it's been great having you. Happily is on the places where you get movies after they've been out for a couple of seconds. And anything else you'd like to promote or uplift?

I'd like to promote this movie called Wild Mountain Time, which is about Emily Blunt has a neighbor who she's in love with and he spends 90 minutes turning her down that's literally the premise of the movie there you go all right and then there's a twist he's a ghost or something but anyway whatever it is i'm very excited to watch it now and i won't even cheat and jump to the end because i went into twist movie even the worst ones I find it excruciatingly delightful to have to ride it out to get to get to the twist, because then you get to be extra, extra mad at having wasted your time.

Mark Ellis, the slowdown is out of control. There's so many matches, so many amazing contests that you put on all the time for people that tell people, how do you sign up to watch these things? You can check it all out on YouTube is our hub. And we have some live events coming back in New York is first up in Brooklyn. We got a big theater there in October. And this actually on July 31st, Doug, you have a big show. But before that, people can check out The Collision, which is four matches in one day, headlined by Kevin Smith, that Kevin Smith, versus Marisol McKee. And whoever wins that gets to contend against Dan Merle

for the singles championship belt of the world. So it's going to be a lot of fun. And thanks for having me again. I'm going to watch wild mountain time too, because I remember hearing about the movie and since I recommended old, we all know I love a good twist. And so this is going to be fun to banter about back and forth. Ben David has sent us down a rabbit hole and I will finish the mission. Yeah.

We discussed it on the Douglas Movies Twitter account. And I want to, you know, of course, I've only competed once in the Schmodown, and that was via Zoom. And now that you're going back to, you know, in-person matches, I'm excited to, you know, throw my – what do you do? I can't – don't throw my hat into the ring. Is that right? Yeah, you throw your towel out. You can throw your hat. No, towel means you give up I can't, don't throw my hat into the ring. Is that right? Yeah, you throw the towel out.

You can throw your hat. No, towel means you give up. Don't throw a towel. I'm not throwing a towel. Yeah, don't throw the towel. I'm throwing a hat. I'm throwing a hat at you. I'm hitting you squarely in the face with a fedora that I, you know, I want to come back and compete. My captain. My captain.

They're soft hats. My captain, Sam Levine. Sam the man Levine is my captain. Oh're soft hats. My captain, Sam, Sam Levine, Sam, the man Levine is my captain. Oh, captain. And he, um,

uh, you know, he's, I guess he's trying to get me another match. So hopefully that'll happen soon. And hopefully it's live. The, uh,

the kids love you, Doug, and we love you being a part of the show. So thank you for, thank you for being part of our family. Oh, uh, it's my pleasure.

Uh, thank you. And thank you to greg wischinski who will become now a dangling champ because we've got a few shows coming up where we're taking it out on the road uh next saturday a couple days from now we're in san diego and then the following saturday is san antonio and the one after that is a sack of tomatoes, California, and then, and then a week off.

And then the very last weekend of August is Indianapolis. These are all Saturdays at four 20 in each of those towns doing Douglas movies and then posting those, you know, in our regular time slots and we'll be supplementing shows with zoom shows so uh i hope it's the best of both worlds for everybody as we uh move back out into the world and um uh greg wischinski what do you have to plug uh well first off it's awesome i'm so happy that you're back on the road and doing shows in front of live audiences it's the best show ever to watch live uh you can you can read my stuff on espn.com

uh if you like the hockey stuff i have a podcast called puck soup which is hockey and pop culture and then also we have a patreon where you if you're a top chef fan, you can find all, uh, the episodes we did for this season of top chef. We have a podcast called mise en pod that covers, uh, top chef, uh, and does episode reviews. You can find that on the puck soup, Patreon. And, um, I'd also, uh, recommend a wild mountain time as a great buzz. Okay. It's a great buzz.

Okay. This movie has so much hype behind it now. Yeah, it's overhyped, but in a good way, I guess. They sent me some stuff to, you know, promote the movie when it came out. Some really nice, they sent me some beer bread mix and some uh some you know the ingredients you need to make this uh alcohol like bread with alcohol in it and it was uh i gotta say it was pretty delicious and uh i really hoped that the movie would be great and i heard that it wasn't so i just you know just haven't gotten around to seeing it so this is uh this is all coming together very nicely in fact i'll probably give away something i'll probably give away uh maybe i've got some you know, just haven't gotten around to seeing it. So this is, uh, this is all coming together very nicely. In fact,

I'll probably give away something. I'll probably give away a, maybe I've got some sort of wild mountain time thing I can give away on the show on Saturday, no promises, but I might have like a hat or something. I'm definitely giving away a painting from, um, paint your life, a company that you send them a picture and they'll make a painting of it. And I'm going to reveal that on my socials sometime sometime today or tomorrow i'm giving that away on saturday yeah and lots of other uh lots of other big prizes because i got a lot of stuff uh piled up during the pandemic in san diego uh is drivable so i'll be able to bring a couple of the bigger uh things that i've been given i've got i've got this really nice robe that says, um,

something about being a motherfucker because it's from, uh, it's a line that, uh, Sam Jackson says in, um, uh, it's a, the robe says hit man's bodyguards wife, but then it also says something about some sort of F word thing on there. So that's always fun, especially, you know, if you got kids around and did I have any other Doug plugs I wanted to do, or am I satisfied with how that worked out? Yeah. Doug loves movies.com for more info on all those dates. I was just talking about, thank you once again, to all three of my guests,

Mark Ellis, Ben, David Grabinski, and Greg Wyszynski. We'll have you back on the show soon, Greg. And of course, everyone, Open Door Policy, let me know anytime you want to come back. And as always, and sadly for the last time, we need new friends. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. We need new friends.