Doug Loves Movies - Matt Belknap, Shane Black and Geoff Tate guest

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Doug hates candy rappers screaming baby sticky seeds with 50 as if he has a pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see because Doug loves movies. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. My name is Doug and I love what day is it? October scary movies. This is Doug loves movies recording on Sunday morning, October 5th, 2020. And my guest today are Matt Belknap, Shane Black, and Jeff Tate. Hello, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Hello. Good morning. Hello, everybody. Let's meet everybody individually, alphabetically, by first name. He is one of our most frequent guests. Now he has a movie podcast of his own. It's Jeff Tate. Hey, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Hey, good morning. How's it going? Oh, pretty good. It turns out there's an 11 a.m. on Sunday, too. Oh, right? What did I say? Oh, nothing. I just bet it's just early for me.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Oh, I see. Well, here's a tough question for you, considering it's early for you. What would movie, you talk about a different movie each episode of your podcast? Yeah. What was the most recent? the most recent one is critters critters
Starting point is 00:01:33 yeah and what was your assessment of critters did you like it it was less scary than when I saw it when I was eight I'll say that right
Starting point is 00:01:44 a year old gave me nightmares this one was it was just fun it's uh you're not as scared of critters as an adult I wouldn't think no no no no it's not scary it's uh
Starting point is 00:01:55 I think it's I think it suffers for Like, it had no good luck casting-wise. Like, if anybody that... If one of those bounty hunters ended up being famous or whatever, that movie would have a better, a longer tale. Oh, I get it. It's just dumb fun. Well, that's what I'm hoping to have here today.
Starting point is 00:02:14 That's what I offer. He was one, is one of the producers of this show you're listening to right now, and he could be heard on every episode of Jimmy Pardo's Never, not funny. It's Matt Bell Dap. Hey, Matt. Hey, Doug. How's it going? Uh, pretty good. Uh, but I've got a question for you. Okay. Uh, you know, with work and family, all the things that you do, do you get out to the old brick and mortar cinema at all? Every once in a while. I made the effort to go see, uh, one battle after the, after another, uh, last week. Um, just by my lonesome. What, uh, format did you decide? It's so there's so many,
Starting point is 00:02:58 to choose from i know i i wish i had had had it in me to to to go down to the vista but i just went to the local burbank 16 and saw it and um i guess it was what you know they have so many different things there it wasn't i max i think it was just the dolby at most theater i i can't remember right it's i mean look at this point it's a great movie a movies a good movie's a good movie regardless of how you see it like i watched movies on vhs as a kid so like i feel like If it holds up, I'll probably, maybe I'll go see it again at the vista because I really enjoyed it. But, but yeah, it worked for me. Well, that's good to hear that, you know, I just like hearing people making the effort to go, you know, out to movies.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. And, you know, you heard about Nicole Kidman and. Keith Urban. What's his name, Keith Urban? I did. Yeah, we're all, I'm wearing a black armband in honor of that. I'm sure we've all seen variations on it, but somebody, of course, posted, well, of course they broke up. I've been seeing Nicole Kimmey by herself with the movies for a few years now.
Starting point is 00:04:10 All right. So excited to welcome back a guest that's been a few years since he's been on, but you can see his new movie right now on Prime. It's Shane Black. Hello, Shane. Hey, how are you? oh good yeah it's it's it's on right now and um called play dirty turn it on right now go see it yeah just turn this off you can pause this this you can listen to any time well you watch any time as well but yeah you could how they manage their time i guess is their business
Starting point is 00:04:48 but i'm just saying uh get on it because uh part of the reason i invited jeff to be on the show today besides him being on the show regularly and good at it, is that Jeff has seen play dirty twice already. It's been out for a few days now, and he's watched it twice. Okay. I'm assuming that's not a bad thing. No, it's a very good thing. I watched it because I liked it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking great, man. yeah it's it we tried our best you know uh yeah i mean it it checks a lot of boxes for me because i like i've read all those books too the the hunter series yeah uh so i was i was so excited to find out that there was a new one of those and a new shane black movie and they were the same movie oh my god uh yeah there there may well be a few uh uh character purist who will say, well, it's not, you know, it's not the same sort of level of grim as the original,
Starting point is 00:06:02 you know, sort of Lee Marvin or, you know, it's interesting. I just think that I love Donald Westlake, the author of those books. Yeah, me too. So does that mean that, are you going to do more of those, adapt more of those books, or? Oh, well. Hard to say at this point. Yeah, it's a little early. It's like, you know, it's like writing on a napkin, you know, an idea for a movie and the next thought is, yeah, what restaurant do we use for the rap party?
Starting point is 00:06:37 You know, it's a little too early to go there. Okay, well, so is this question, is it too soon to ask if there's, I'm sure you get bothered about this a lot, but is, there any hope for a nice guys to you know i i really i think that it's so doable in terms of the project itself there's just so there's nothing to say don't do it's a it's a it's begging for these guys to you know pull off another case um it's just will a studio commit to a potentially very expensive sequel to a movie that didn't do well at the box office it's it's a tough ask right but it's got that uh you know thing now where you know more more people love it as time goes on like it's the the legend is building yeah but you had
Starting point is 00:07:35 this legend building around snakes on a plane right yeah but i think that's a little bit more you know people right i mean on the on the flip side of that they made six lake placid movies i haven't seen them all but i want to sit down and have a festival one. The first one is terrific. Yeah, but it really is. It wasn't a hit. They didn't really need more. That first one is so perfect. I love the first one. Well, before we play some games today, I would like each one of you to recommend a movie. And since it's October, we ask for scary movies, please, or at least maybe suspenseful,
Starting point is 00:08:23 Jeff. All right, I'm going to, I'm going to say Freaky Tales. It's kind of spooky and suspenseful, not a little horror, but, man, it's so good. Freaky Tales. Yes, it's on HBO or whatever. It just kind of went straight to streaming, but it's great. Who's in it? Ben Mendelssohn and Pedro Pascal and a bunch of other people, two shorts in it.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh. it's great though it's very very fun and satisfying and but is it is like an anthology is that why it's called tales it's four chapters and the the you know three separate chapters and then the fourth one is the culmination you know how they make those oh all right i can't believe i'm learning all about freaky tales right now i know it kind of it did not get a lot of a fanfare when it came out. No, it sounded, you know, when you said it, it sounded vaguely familiar. But what's that other movie we like with Tales in the title?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Wild tales. Yeah, that, it's like Argentinian or something. Yeah, that movie's fantastic. If anybody's looking for some wild tales instead of some freaky ones. Yeah. Just depends what mode you're in. All right, great job, Jeff. Matt, what would you like to recommend?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Man, scary movie wise. Well, you know, I was like in my mind preparing for this question, not remembering it's October. So I wasn't thinking about scary movies. And I wanted to recommend the Battle of Algiers, which is a great movie that you see briefly in one battle after another. So if people have seen the new movie, go back and watch another movie about revolution. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But for horror movies, I'm going to say just as the father of a, like my son, I think was 11 or 12 when it came out. But if you have kids who want to dip a toe in horror but are maybe scared to watch a real one, the Five Nights at Freddy's movie is like a great, it's very by the numbers, but it's like a great, not too scary, but still the same beats as a horror movie. And kids, usually most kids know the video game five nights at Freddy, so they might be interested in for that reason. But yeah, you know, it hits the marks.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Like, I enjoyed it. Sometimes when you take a kid to a movie, you just take a nap because the kids' movies I don't know what's that great, but that one kept my attention and I enjoyed it. So yeah, so go rent that one if you, if you haven't seen it yet. They don't care if you just nod out. They're just like, that's fine. I don't, they don't notice, but like it is a little bit risky. Like, you know, your job is to take care of your child.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So if you're sleeping, anything could happen to them in a movie theater, obviously. But sometimes you can't help it. Like if you're watching Nomeo and Juliet, you can't help it. it's just it's not it's not gonna keep you awake yeah and they the seats get more and more comfortable in these some of these places yeah that's true that's really you know you get a recliner forget about it yeah um it's it's lights out time but five nights at freddies i you know heard a lot of meg there was a lot of negativity hurled at that movie when it came out but that sequel is on on its way i think yeah they made another one and um yeah like i said i mean
Starting point is 00:11:47 i think it's for a specific audience I don't think it's meant to be, you know, competing against the hardcore horror movies of the day. It's just, it's got its little niche and I kind of like that that exists. Like, when I was a kid, there were movies like that too. Like, I feel like Gremlins was a little bit like that where, you know, it wasn't that scary, but it felt like you were seeing something a little bit like for, you know, when you're 10 or 12, it's like, oh, this is kind of, this is kind of messed up. There's like, you know, guys getting murdered and a little creature's exploding in a
Starting point is 00:12:19 microwave. That's good fun. So yeah, it's got a little bit of that. It's got some some tame gore in it. Yeah, well, that was, you know, Kremlin's kind of legendary for having been, you know, much more violent in its initial inception. And then somehow that Phoebe Kate's Santa Claus scene still snuck into the, what's kind of a kid's movie. I mean, the blood bath in the kitchen with the mom, and then he just, never see the mom again? What happened to her? He got rid of all the gremlin. She didn't even know
Starting point is 00:12:55 they were there. He killed them all and then, as far as she knows, there's just monsters in her kitchen and she kills a dozen of them. Yeah, it's awesome. It is awesome, yeah. Well, it's just perfect for Halloween, because
Starting point is 00:13:11 it brings up this concept which people don't get these days. There's in a polarized world of grisly fun. Halloween is where you see lawns full of dead bodies but it's playful just a weird thing
Starting point is 00:13:27 Halloween it's always been that and nowadays it's like demonic and pagan and all this stuff but you know Halloween was my favorite always yeah it's uh and it's the season just keeps you know stretching out
Starting point is 00:13:41 even longer it's like the day after 4th of July it's play ball like that's it's it's Halloween time until November 1st. So for the entire month of October every year, I just
Starting point is 00:13:57 asked my guests to recommend horror movies. So what would you like to recommend Shane? Oh, I thought about it for a second. I'm torn between two. They both begin with the letter C. The first one was a little more successful. It's called companion
Starting point is 00:14:13 for Sophie Thatcher. It's just, it's an absolutely impeccable little gem, a piece of work that's really just skillful as hell and qualifies, I think, as horror. The other one that's more obscure is horror. It's this film called Cobweb with Lizzie Kaplan and Anthony Starr.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And it's fantastic. Bob Webb has come up on the show before our friend Chad Opitz, I think, mentioned it. He likes really strange, unusual movies. What's the like what's the basic storyline of common? Because it's not about a spider, right?
Starting point is 00:14:57 Well, at first you're not sure. This here's noises behind his wall. He's a very sheltered kid, lives in this sort of what you might at first think is sort of a religious cult type family. They don't like the things he's being taught at school. And they keep him at home. And they're very
Starting point is 00:15:16 strict and they punish him in the cellar if he does something wrong. But he starts to hear this thing, this voice talk to him through his wall. And from there, it just goes. It's really quite something. All right, Tom Webb, probably streaming somewhere. I think at this point, like on shutter or something, I would imagine. And the companion from this year has really been the holding up for me is one of my favorite films of the year. He came out in January, and for just sheer enjoyment
Starting point is 00:15:53 level, I don't think anything's topped it for me. Yeah, it's there's not a scene that's not fun. There's a wonderful scene where, I'll just say the line with those spoilers was, wait, are you breaking up with me?
Starting point is 00:16:12 That was great. Yeah. Yeah, it's really, it's really fun, and I look forward to seeing what the guy who directed that does next. And these are some terrific recommendations, gents. Hey, Doug, I just saw, Cobweb is on Netflix, actually, so people can go watch it there. Oh, breaking news. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Cobbweb on Netflix. What's companion on then? That's a great question. Just burst in when you have the answer. It's HBO Max. okay yeah and and i guess rentable on prime yeah go to prime and pay 299 for god's sake yeah support the artist say and what about the battle of algear oh jesus i i don't know where you find that that's a great question yeah that one might be a tough find but uh that was
Starting point is 00:17:04 interesting piece of trivia that it's in that in that movie because i don't think i you know whenever there's a movie on tv in a movie or a talk show or whatever it is i always like to. Yeah. Oh, that's also on HBO Max. Yeah, go to HBO Max. You can see the Battle of Alger's. It's kind of like a documentary style story about the fight for independence in Algeria in the 1950s. Wow. And where's five doggia? Jesus Christ. Okay. Oh, I love it. Where is freaky tales? Why don't you look those up during the break and lay them out for me when we get back? We'll be right back. Mr Monopoly here
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Starting point is 00:18:10 But bonus play ends November 2nd Monopoly is a registered trademark of Hasbro Copyright McDonald's. We are back, and Matt, did you have enough time to look up those things? Five Nights of Freddy's is just, you just rented on Prime. Okay. What was the other question you had? Freaky Tales.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Freaky Tales. Freaky Tales. Freaky Tales is on HBO. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. HBO Max. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I mean, look, if you don't have all of the things, those are three, what was it, Netflix, HBO, and then just renting from whatever that's uh you got your bases covered there yeah yeah it's uh people can definitely check out these movies a lot of times they might guess will you know recommend things that are just like you know part of the fun is recommending something super obscure and then yeah uh then nobody can find it but it's so fun to hear about sometimes um our first game today is something that i call whose tagline is it anyway I will say a tagline from a motion picture, and you have to guess which one, which movie it is. Blurt?
Starting point is 00:19:29 No blurting. We take turns, starting with, you know, start with Jeff. If he misses it, then Matt gets a chance, and Matt Missed Shane gets a chance. every time somebody gets one right the next person gets to go first in that order and they're not easy
Starting point is 00:19:51 I'll just say you that this is this is like you know you just have to take some swings and there is a theme though that will hopefully emerge at some point you'll realize that they're all have something in common all of the answers
Starting point is 00:20:08 in this game you ready jeff i'm ready okay uh what movie now these are you know sometimes they're from the poster sometimes the trailer ads whatever like uh just something that is one of maybe several things that katy came up with to sell the movie one movie has this tagline the story of the strongest passion the world has ever known uh okay um oh man I can't even think of a funny one
Starting point is 00:20:51 the 10 the 10 commandments uh no but he was really passionate about those rocks yes he was super into it he was really into it a lot of a lot of waving them around right kind of defined his whole personality yeah defined his arms there's a good arm walking around with those tablets all the time and of course bill bill brooks dropped one
Starting point is 00:21:22 it was the 15 commandress it dropped one if it all right matt can you read it to me again the story the story of the strongest passion the world has ever known i mean i i feel like it's it's a probably a cardinal rule that you don't use a word from the title in the tagline but the first thing i thought of was the passion of the christ so i'm without any better thoughts i'm going to just go with that okay that's not a terrible guess uh it's not the answer i'm looking for but maybe shane knows what that part of me wishes at this point that i was paul lynde you know, how he would always give the funny answer first. You know, I'm going to say Troy.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Oh, that's not a bad guess either. I like everybody having guesses. That's a, you know, that's a step in the right direction. But now that I'm looking at it, I might have said one of the words wrong. I might have misread my... What? I know. That's a really change of thing.
Starting point is 00:22:34 So let's go back, let's go back to Jeff, and in the same order, everybody gets a second guess. Okay. What if this was the, what if this was the actual tagline? This is unprecedented. Yeah. The story of the strangest passion the world has ever known. Oh. I don't know which one it is, strongest or strangest, but it could be either based on my handwriting.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Oh, that's a, that's the tagline for the shape of water. No. Matt Harold and Maud This is a good game for the future Just have to Have the wrong word Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:23:15 Put the right word in But Harold and Maud is incorrect Shane Oh geez That one's got me The modern remake of Psycho The story of the strangest The world has ever known
Starting point is 00:23:30 Or strongest Whichever one it is it is you know he is capable of quite a lot of passion it's Dracula from 1931 oh whoa yeah okay
Starting point is 00:23:43 yeah they it's reassuring because there was no no goddamn chance on that one no that one just out of the blue you don't even have an idea what the theme might be but let's note a round two and Jeff you're up first again and I wrote it's the one down
Starting point is 00:24:01 super accurately and it's it's just funny how specific sometimes the tagline can be Universal's greatest production for 1925 The Mummy
Starting point is 00:24:20 Come on out everybody No it's not the mummy Damn Matt What else we got in the in the universal horror is the wolfman no it's not the wolf man say oh 25 is silent pictures yeah uh shit i i'm trying to think of big but the great train robbery no that was earlier no no no no no no let's go with birth of the nation um that's
Starting point is 00:25:01 It's like, it's like overeducated guests is what I would call that. It's a Phantom of the Opera. Ah, wow. Oh, it's Halloween. There's a theme of Halloween. Now we know. All right, Jeff, are you ready? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Uh, uh, uh, uh, hideous, half-man, half-beast who terrorized millions. The wolf-man. That sounds like something that our current administration would say. Right? Somehow one half-man, half-beast, terrorized millions.
Starting point is 00:25:53 That beast got around. Your guest was what, Jeff? The Wolfman. No, that's incorrect. Oh, my God. I thought that was it too. Half-Man, half-beast. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. No, but that's not really accurate, but... Yeah, no. I was so flummoxed by the fact that it wasn't the Wolfman, I couldn't pull another half-man-half-beast. But both halves of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. They're both people still. One of them is not a beast.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah, but one of them is a maniacs. He's got a bad attitude. You're right about that. So, yeah, you could consider him a beastly. Oh, you beast! Yeah, that's a metaphor. Yeah. Literally a beast.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Shane, what do you think? We guessed, what were the guesses so far, Wolfman and... Jacqueline Hyde. Jacklin Hyde. Yeah, I'm torn. I want to go with War of the Colossal Beast or Werewolf of London. Which one? War Wolf of London.
Starting point is 00:26:58 That is correct. Oh. Whoa. Wow. You got it. So we were right about the Wolfman part. Yeah, no, a little curveball there with the titles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 That's part of the fun. Jeff? Yes. I never learned to hit curveballs. One movie has the tagline and fits the theme of this game. The tagline is the Tomb of a Thousand Terror's. Okay, so we've had a werewolf, Dracula, and so this one's the mummy. That's your answer?
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yes. Incorrect. Oh, motherfucker. What the fuck? Another curveball. I should stop close of my eyes and swing it, huh? Okay. Once again, I thought we had it.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Now I just got to go like weird, you know, maybe to like, is it the scorpion king uh no i don't hate it but no shame pulled out that last one he no yeah that was a that was a fluke this is uh tomb of a thousand terrors that sounds yeah that sounds very sort of later you know 60 70 um yeah they toned down the rhetoric from millions to thousands How about the abominable Dr. Fibes? Another fantastic guest. But no, and everybody's right to not know that this one is called The Mummy's Hand.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Hey, you didn't let me finish. Yeah. I cut you off. The Mummy. The Mummy. So Shane officially wins that game. Congratulations, Shane. What do I get?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh, it did absolutely nothing. You know, you get that like burst of, you know, endorphins pride for job well done. Yeah, that in 50 cents will get me a donut. Yeah. Where are you getting these things that donut? Give me your donut spot. Vooder donuts is you got it's updated as $7 and then we'll get me a job.
Starting point is 00:29:28 All right. But I got one more for you, Shane. I'm just going to say it directly to you so you could show off. This was going to be a tiebreaker if we needed one. But you won the game flat out. But what do you think the – what movie has the tagline? She breathes, sees, hears, walks, but can she love? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:29:54 well the the bride of Frank she never really walked she showed up to set and they wrapped her up and she kind of had a doze off between takes let me see I don't
Starting point is 00:30:15 that sounds like Plan 9 from outer space or something well maybe like sometimes maybe a tagline's written by somebody who hasn't even seen the movie as maybe my theory of what happened here because it says that she walks and you're right is Brian of Frankenstein Oh, okay
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah I just assumed that she walked Yeah, I guess Maybe she did get up at one point Did she get up when she points at them and screams and starts Yeah, I think she kind of walks around at that point. So she tottered.
Starting point is 00:30:56 She clumps around. She's not good at it. But every single answer to that game were universal monster movies, and they are playing on Friday matinees here at the New Beverly in Los Angeles this month. So once again, congrats to Shane Black. You do get a slight advantage in our next game. You get to go first because you. one in this game and we will play that game after these messages we'll be right back we are back
Starting point is 00:31:31 and Shane black gets to go first in the game that's going to determine it all today to decide our winner between Shane and Matt and Jeff that's the order you will go in in this game and Shane is up first it's called Mr. Spielberg okay Stephen Spielberg is directed some of the most successful scary slash suspenseful movies ever and 1941.
Starting point is 00:32:03 In this game, you have to take turns guessing which Spielberg titles are in the top 10 best reviewed of his career according to Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And this is directed, not produced. Sorry, Poulter Geist, stick this one out. If you name the number one movie, you get 10 points. If you name the number 10 movie, you get one point, there's a bunch points in between, and
Starting point is 00:32:37 Shane, you're up first. I have three guesses. You'll get three guesses total. But what is your first first crack at it? Yeah, Jaws would be, come to mind. You think Jaws is one of the top 10
Starting point is 00:32:55 best-reviewed movies in the Spielberg filmography. It is shockingly number three on the list. Whoa. Yeah. With 97% of the
Starting point is 00:33:14 critics on Rotten Tomato giving it a positive. Who the hell gives a negative review the choice? I don't know. Look it up. That 3% is really, they should be held accountable for sure. I want to read the Splat review on that one. But you have a strong start here in this game with eight points.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Secondly would be Raiders of the Law Store. Well, you wait until, like, now Matt's going to guess one. Oh, I thought you said I had three guesses. You do total, but we're going to take terms until you've all had three. So, gentlemen, forget what you just heard. or wiping my memory. Strike that from the record jury style
Starting point is 00:33:56 from your memory. And Matt, you probably weren't going to guess that anyway, were you? No, no. I have a choice to make between two of his most acclaimed dramatic films, and I'm going to
Starting point is 00:34:13 go with Schindler's List. Schindler's List is quite acclaimed at 98 percent again we got two percent out there going well it wasn't for me that's nine points for that's number two movie on the list leaving still a number one maybe jeff will name it well maybe he won't what do you think it could be jeff uh saving private ryan that is on the list but all the way down at number five.
Starting point is 00:34:54 What? Oh, with 94%. That was the movie, of course, that famously, like everybody gripes about it losing to Shakespeare in love for best pitcher. But six points for you for that one, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So we'll take it. We've got a, yeah, see, we got a real suit and match here. We got Matt's in the lead with nine, which Shane's right there with eight, Jeff has six, the number one movie is still out there and up for grabs. Do you want to say that same movie you said earlier, Shane, or have you changed your answer? It was such a big deal at the time.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I can't imagine someone saying, oh, this is nonsense and the horror. So, yeah, let's go with Raiders to the Lost Heart. Number six on the list. What the hell's happening? Yeah, number six. So that's worth five more points for Shane. so it's even more comfortable lead at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Matt. Oh, boy. I am, I'm baffled by the order of these movies. Ooh. Let me recap for you real quick. Number two is Schindler's list. Number three is Jaws. Then we still have that, you know, one and four still open.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Five is saving Private Ryan and six is Raiders in the Lost Ark. yeah oh of course i just thought of the one okay when we get back to you hopefully it'll still be available i guess i got to go well this is tricky because there's some some big box office ones that i think were pretty well received but i you know i don't know critically i guess i'm just going to say uh et the extraterrestrial et et et et colon the extraterrestrial correct ET's colon full of beer and candy
Starting point is 00:36:54 yep that explains the finger number one oh number one wow that's very surprising to me yeah and nobody hates that movie 99%
Starting point is 00:37:10 yeah Spielberg doesn't have a 100% a positive review movie what a shame but yeah that one is E.T. is number one on the list but there's still opportunities for more points out there
Starting point is 00:37:28 and anybody, it's anybody's game except for probably Jeff. What's your next guest, Jeff? Jurassic Park. I like you said that with a smile in your voice and a velociraptor near heart. Number 10 on the list.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Oh, my God. The great Jurassic Park. Probably one of his more, you know, scary kind of fits more into the Halloween vibe. I saw the most recent one, the rebirth. Yeah. It was fine. Yeah. I had a movie that year that got buried by Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:38:14 We did last action hero that year. Yeah. Oh, oh, the same here as the first one. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that was, that movie was, it's insane. I mean, it just shows you how much people want to see a dinosaur on a big screen because, you know, all the sequels to the Jurassic Park movies, you know, you could argue none of them are as good as the original, and they still keep making them.
Starting point is 00:38:34 They still keep making a ton of money. But last Boy Scout, that is... No, no, not Last Boy Scout, Last Action Hero. Oh, sorry, sorry. Well, because... Believe me, last Boy Scout got back. buried as well so for other reasons not by me yeah yeah i love it i watched i watched it yesterday yeah right last action hero though uh yeah was like uh it was just interesting to have such a big
Starting point is 00:39:03 summer movie that was making so much fun of of blockbusters and yeah he had a lot of flaws i remember going to the premiere and everyone was silent afterwards so that's never a good And they had this giant, like set up, like this carnival with a giant 50-foot Arnold Schwarzenegger and rides and everything. It was just like quietly sort of sullenly going to the rides and sitting there. Oh, man. That was one of, it seemed like the public, well, like the movie was a commentary on Schwarzenegger's career and on action movies. But then it was marketed like a straight Schwarzenegger movie. And I think maybe people were like, oh, this isn't what we thought we were getting with this.
Starting point is 00:39:46 They, like, were thrown off by that, perhaps. I think it was also tonally a little highbrow in the sense that it was trying, it was showing off a little. I thought it was a bit precious. It was meta before everybody started throwing that word around. Right. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I personally think it's the Jim Belushi was in it. And that brings down everything. it's like in one scene or something right yeah but that's enough man it's boats only have one anchor Jeff what about trading places he's in one scene in trading places and it's one of the best comedy's ever made um I come on man I'm not prepared for cross-examination Turner and Hooch was off the charts made a lot of money there you go Wait, he's in Turner and Hooch? Wait, no, he was in the TV show.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So, sorry. He was in the TV. He played the Tom Hanks part in the TV version. No, no. You know what you're thinking of? He was... Canine? Oh, K-9.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I'm thinking of K-9. Yeah. K-9. Yes. Well, I guess that didn't do quite as well. That's so funny. The Dante's peeked at his... He did not brag down the movie.
Starting point is 00:41:10 movie thief. No, that's true. That's a very good point. All right, all right, guys. You found me out. I was just being flippant. He didn't drag down a little shop of horrors. He's barely in it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You know what I don't even remember him in it. Yeah, he's in there. All right. Let's get back to our game. Very exciting because Shane, was that the one that popped into your head? Was it E.T? Yeah, but for the win. um oh i like it here we go yeah most encounters of the third kind yeah the confidence oh man
Starting point is 00:41:50 i appreciate the confidence i really do but that came in at number 11 what what oh my god that was gonna be my guess too that i have it all locked and loaded it's 90 but here's what i think happens with like a classic like a movie like that from you know all the way back in the 70s is that you know they don't get the aggregate at that time of the reviews
Starting point is 00:42:19 so now it's just at some point rhyme to me as well what we're going to give to you know close encounters and they find all the reviews that they can and maybe even get some new ones from you know newer critics and then they come up with a number so I think that
Starting point is 00:42:35 one got shafted for that reason but you'll see what the other movies are in the top ten uh in a second uh but matt do you have a third guess yeah um like the oscar baity ones that he made the other ones i feel like we're all a little bit mixed so i don't want to go there necessarily um but so i'm going to say a movie that i think doug you maybe don't like but i actually like it a lot um Indiana Jones in the last crusade that's so funny that you would know i i like uh you know i like sean connery the addition of his character and how he plays with harrison ford is is really good but i found
Starting point is 00:43:19 you know i just was disappointed they went like back to nazis i thought he was going to be like doing more different kinds of adventures over the years right and so i didn't need Nazis again and then um you know the villains and the and the girlfriend all that none of that stuff was as appealing to me previous installments. But, you know, I'm the one that thinks that Temple of Doom is the best one in the series, so what do I know? You're not alone in that. I think there's a handful, you know, there's definitely people who lean that way because
Starting point is 00:43:54 maybe it's the purest expression of what, you know, what the concept was all about. I mean, Raiders is also flawless. Yeah, Raiders is amazing, but like the sequel to me was just like, why is this so incredibly insanely violent like it's very violent yeah yeah you know and it's but it's but it feels like a family movie so it's really uh it's interesting to me um did you guess yeah i said last oh right crusade um the reason i was stalling there is because i was going to try to uh to find it it it's number 17 of the yeah yeah yeah So the fire's gone out in your...
Starting point is 00:44:39 Damn it. You're safe, though. You're safe because Jeff can't possibly catch you, but I still want Jeff to have a final try. All right. My guess is Minority Report. Excellent guess in a movie that, you know, the more and more we get all the kinds of technology we're getting these days, and more that movie is kind of free. how accurate it was, but number 13 on the list.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Oh, man. Yeah. I should have said Crystal Skull. Well, congratulations, Matt, Belknap. You are the winner today. But, you know, of course, everybody here is a winner if you ask me. But that means, Matt, before I reveal the rest of the answers, you get to promote stuff first.
Starting point is 00:45:36 stuff first what would you like to promote yeah just just check out if you like comedy and podcasts listen to never not funny it's uh out there wherever you get podcasts and um yeah we've been we just uh who do we just have on we've had some good good guests recently um our pal wayne fetterman was on i think that's that one's maybe behind the paywall but uh but yeah just uh check it out fun stuff right on um now i'm going to reveal to you all the ones we didn't get, ones that caught went unmentioned. Can we try to guess just like a rapid fire? I mean, you know, I don't mind keeping the game going.
Starting point is 00:46:22 No, you can read it. My next guess was Catch Me if you can. Oh, that's a great guess. Yes. Man, dang. Yes, number four on the list. Oh, whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:33 If you just pulled that one sooner, it would have changed. everything. I would have won and got to promote things first. But yeah, cats me if you can is maybe with Jaws, like those are my two favorite Spielberg movies. I mean, I just love that movie. And it got a 96% on the on the rotten tomatoes. But then we go down to, of course, 10 was Jurassic Park. Nine was
Starting point is 00:47:05 Bridge of Spies Yeah, okay Yeah, I won some Oscars And the critics loved it Mark Rylance, I think won He won supporting actor I think he's always great And everything
Starting point is 00:47:19 So it's part of a Kind of a career award, I think The number eight is West Side Story Wow Wow I know I think you'd think more people
Starting point is 00:47:32 Who razzed him For just sort of taking what was great about the first West Side story and then you know tweaking some other stuff and still not having a you know a strong leading man
Starting point is 00:47:47 I really do think that that one casting choice kind of ruined it like I thought it kind of it's strange I think it could have been actually great and then he just was really really wrong no even the guy that played his second in command would have been better yeah that guy's good
Starting point is 00:48:04 yeah he's so good all right and then number seven this one really rankles me because i just didn't i wasn't on board with this movie i didn't get i didn't get the appeal of it uh the fablemans well yeah good old fablemen's what do you guys what do you fablemen's do for living do you make up stories yes how did you get to Matt Bell Dap, but also... Wait, that was it? That's all of them, the 10? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Oh, I don't know why I thought maybe Amistad would be somewhere in there. Catch me if you can was four, draws his three, there's less than, ET, and then, if you want to go deeper down the list, the other direction, Lincoln was number 12. Okay. 14 was, this to me shouldn't count because it was a TV movie, but it is a good one, dual. 15 was the post 16 was Sugarland Express
Starting point is 00:49:07 his first first feature film 18 was Munich 19 Amistad 20 Indiana Jones and Temple to do I mean the guy puts out bangers
Starting point is 00:49:23 like his top 10 are all all got 90% or better and I think some of those ones in the teens were like nominated for best picture right like i think amistad was nominated for best picture yeah and lincoln was and the post was the munich was they all he just gets you know at the very least he gets a few uh you know technical award uh you know is right is more fanciful movies that that uh shame black thank you so much for spending this time with us the movie again is called
Starting point is 00:50:01 play dirty that's right and it's an Amazon Prime it opened on the first of October there and it was it's exclusively a cable movie but
Starting point is 00:50:16 that's not to say that it's a by any means a cheap or thrifty movie it no it qualifies it's a real movie that's just that's playing you know on a streamer but it's legit
Starting point is 00:50:33 and it's a shame that you know more of these movies aren't getting you know theatrical play but you know what we we signed up for you know it's Amazon gave us what we needed right
Starting point is 00:50:48 left us pretty much alone but it is it was always going to be on their platform and so it's where we don't really know yet where streaming has landed or what's you know it's still
Starting point is 00:51:01 in flux in terms of the business. Everything seems to be bombing at the theaters this summer as I can see. Yeah, it's been rough, but then, you know, some things, you know, managed to... The weapons, weapons suddenly
Starting point is 00:51:16 things. It's so unpredictable. Yeah, but one thing you can point to this year is that things like weapons and sinners are not, you know, they don't have to continue to be so married to an IP, you know, to, you know, a known thing, like original stories can actually, you know, generate a lot of business.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That's the best news ever, yeah. Yeah. Jeff Tate, what would you like to promote, buddy? You know, I got that Saturday afternoon movie club podcast and Play Dirty. I want to promote Play Dirty. I'm doing the fucking rips. It's very fun. If it wasn't the theater, I'd have seen it.
Starting point is 00:52:00 twice this weekend. God bless you sure. I'm definitely going to see it very soon and I'm super excited about it. I'm going to be doing a Douglas movies. The final Douglas movies of this month will be on recorded Friday, October 31st Halloween at the Punchline in Sacramento. Always a fun place to do the show. And the next afternoon I'm doing a stand-up show at Cobbs in San Francisco and the first Tuesday of every month the Venson movie interruption happens at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:52:38 We did one, we did a special one yesterday, and we watched Weekend at Bernie's Two. Oh, that one got through. It was rough. Yeah, yeah, you were there the month before somebody brought it. Two people brought it. Two different people brought that movie
Starting point is 00:52:54 last month. Yeah, the one lady brought it back again. The other guy didn't. He changed his movie, but then everybody picked it, and it is really, really, really rough because, like, I had forgotten it, like, a weekend where he's two,
Starting point is 00:53:09 the dead Bernie body, he's reincarnated, like he gets up and dances around because of a voodoo curse. Yeah. It's so stupid. Did it do well? I don't think so, no. I think it, I think the first one didn't really,
Starting point is 00:53:28 like it was one of those things where the sequel was kind of a surprise like they really thought the first one did well enough and then but the second one they're kind of stuck yeah they get i can see that development meaning i think they went into like three or four i don't know how many weekend at bernie's movies there are total but uh but number two should have had should have put the stake in the heart of it and put it into it. Yeah. Thanks once again.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Shade Black, Matt Bell Dap, Jeff Tate, and everybody for listen. And as always, I'll put five on the mutt. Now it's time to look to watch another talking. Eyes of Gold is viewing prowess makes it cocky. There's no room in his heart for you. Because Doug.
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