Doug Loves Movies - Pat Francis, Gary Lucy, and Matt Belknap Guest

Episode Date: July 28, 2011

Doug's back in the Never Not Funny Studios to talk to Pat Francis, Gary Lucy, and producer Matt Belknap about their new music-centered comedy podcast, "NNF Presents: Rock Solid." See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming babies, sticky seeds with 50 azepop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies! Hey everybody, my name is Doug and I love movies. This is Doug Loves Movies coming to you from the Never Not Funny Studios in the Valley of San Fernando on Monday, July 25th to Ocean's Eleven. So you'll be hearing this probably anywhere from four to six days after it was recorded. The number one movie in the country right now is Captain America, which I have not seen yet. But I most certainly will because i like superheroes who carry guns i'll be performing for three nights at one of my favorite clubs in the country acme comedy club

in minneapolis st paul area it's in minneap august 16 through the 18 and as regular listeners of this show know all of my tour dates are listed at douglovesmovies.com my guests today are the hosts of a brand new podcast how many eps you got so far two eps two two you're two in the deuce the deuce and uh i'll have a good name for there'll be three by the time this bears okay so you'll be three in. Our third and final one. Yeah, you'll be looking forward to that. And hopefully it'll be living up to its name by the third ep. It's called Rock Solid. Please welcome Pat Francis and Gary Lucy. Hello, Doug.

Hello, Doug. Did you guys team up because you both have last names that are girl names? Oh, man. This interview is over. Oh, yeah. I'm coming out with some hard balls. And in the third chair today is Matt Belknap, who some of you may know as the producer of this podcast, Doug Loves Movies, and co-star of, what do you call yourself on Never Not

Funny? Co-host. Co-host. I like co-star. That's nice. That sounds way too big. I appreciate the elevation. For what that is.

Yeah, exactly. And Jimmy wouldn't like that. Nope, not at all. Yeah, and so in here today, you will be administering the Leonard Maltin game. That is true, for the first time ever. Very exciting. You've heard a lot of Leonard Maltin games, so you know how it goes, and you know how I like it. Sam Levine, I should mention, is on assignment.

how I like it. Sam Levine, I should mention, is on assignment. I love when they say that on the TV or the radio, when they say some so-and-so's not there because they're on assignment. Like, isn't their job being on camera or being on the show, isn't that their assignment? They've been assigned to no longer be on camera. They've been asked to not be here for a while.

Jim Misklosewski knows what he did. So that was for the listeners to get used to everybody, that was Gary's voice, and then Pat sounds like this. Hello, everybody. I sound like this, and my cans are on my head. And Rock Solid is...

You produce that as well, Matt? Yeah, I'm manning the dials of that. We call it spreading himself too thin. Yeah, yeah you're gonna start to see a real decrease in quality on all these shows well that's the i just found this out recently and then now i just had a great and i was inspired for a spin-off show of this show yeah and uh so we'll have to we'll have to figure out how to make that work but in the meantime you want to tease it here well it at work i'm just playing with it i you know people like to respond immediately what they think about things but just let it simmer for a second you

guys don't respond immediately but uh a show called doug hates sports and much like Doug Loves Movies, we won't talk about sports at all. We'll talk about Broadway shows and other various topics, just like we do on Doug Loves Movies, where we rarely talk about movies. No, we talk about movies probably as much as most sports radio talks about sports. Because those guys will talk about American Idol. They'll get off track sometimes, those sports-loving dudes. But Rock Solid is what exactly? You guys both know a lot about music. Well, I think Gary said, if you look at the description on iTunes, Gary came up with this.

It was, for those about to chit-chat about rock, we salute you. Yep. I think that pretty much says it. Yeah. Yeah, we just shoot the breeze about rock. And here's our hook. Pat's kind of a classic rocker, and I'm like a hipster indie rocker. Indie doofus.

Oh, so that's fun. So you just insult each other a lot then. A little bit, yeah. Your taste, not your... We're still playing nice up to the third episode. Today, I think it's going to go. We've unlaced the gloves, but the gloves haven't come off yet.

We're going to mix it. And then we try to have a game or a topic that takes up most of the show. And then we'll do some reviews and throw out a couple of websites we like and new releases and just stuff like that. I want to help people... It sounds like my show,

but about rock instead. It is. We almost called it Gary and Pat love music yeah I've gotten a lot of yeah good movie recommendations off your show

and that's that's kind of the goal like hopefully get people to enjoy more music and you know hear about things that they might not know

yeah exactly or you know maybe it'll remind them of something oh yeah I forgot I love that and that sort of thing. But you guys are funny also.

It's a funny conversation. Yeah, we try to be funny. You don't force it. No. There's no reason to always be funny. If it's there, it's there. We don't have a paper full of pre-written bits. It's impossible to never not be funny.

It is called Never Not Funny Presents. It is Never Not Funny Presents. Rock solid. And we take that title about as seriously as Never Not Funny Takes It. In that we cannot keep that up. How does Jimmy feel about the new podcast, baby? Oh, well, it was Jimmy and I initially were the ones who were saying, hey, we should have a spinoff because, you know, we work too hard

and someone else should do some of the work. So we thought, like, Pat's a great too because he's on our show so much and he's i think it was a way to get me off their show people were clamoring for more pat francis but not on our show but uh yeah so so we were like well pat loves music and and that's a great thing for him and pat had the idea to bring g along, you know, because we thought it's always good to have two people talking, at least. And it's been fun.

Tell that to Bill Burr, Greg Proops. Yeah. Who are the other solo ones? Larry Miller, does he have anybody on with him? I don't know the answer to that. Could you do that? I could never do that. Just talk to myself.

I could do it, but I would be embarrassed by the result. You know, like, I don't think I'd be happy with it, and I'd be shocked that people would listen to myself. I could do it, but I would be embarrassed by the result. You know, like, I wouldn't, I don't think I'd be happy with it, and I'd be shocked that people would listen to it. I wonder if any of those guys, like, I know Mike Schmidt has a producer in there with him. I wonder if any of those guys are just by themselves doing it, because that would be

really, that would be, they just turn on a thing and do it. Well, like, Mark Maron, his monologues, I think he's kind of alone when he does them, but that's just for a few minutes. And it's usually to set up what's gonna happen right so that's okay someone told me that uh bill maher recorded an album in a studio like he didn't have a crowd oh that's interesting did like a stand-up album but just in the studio that could be just as fun to listen yeah i mean i guess that's basically a podcast you really need the laughter to know when it's

being funny i guess maybe they didn't put laughter in i know no i i have not heard this by the way this is just so this here's the perfect comedy album i know just put the laughter in later yeah wow every every joke really hit didn't it check out my new podcast gary loves filibusters talk and talk and talk my new cd potty mouth comes out august 30th on comedy central records and i did two i taped two shows and then you know took all the stuff where one table got out of control and had to be thrown out out of out of that's not in the album and then just called the best stuff from the two shows but it sort of feels like cheating but at the same time i think why aren't i just doing six or seven shows

i mean it makes it arduous to to edit it you know so i i tend to pick big chunks because i want to still sound like and feel like you know just one performance because it's just one album you know i i would ultimately i'd love to do taking it back to rock what pearl jam and some other bands have done i'd like to go out on a tour where then you the cds of all the nights are available and and if you if some lunatic wants to hear the differences between louisville and and uh oklahoma city they they can but other people can just pick their town or just one and you know and and i'd be honest about it that it's essentially the same act every night but that i I ad-lib quite a bit. Well, I would, I mean, as far as music goes,

my favorite albums are the ones that are over one, would hopefully be one night, but over one or two nights. I don't like when like... Like a hot August night. Yeah, I don't like when like a Def Leppard tours for two years and then they take, each track is from a different play.

I mean, that's not a live album. That's, to me, it's not. I want to hear if there's a mistake, if a string breaks or whatever happens. Oh, yeah, yeah. They'll just take all perfect versions of the songs. Yeah, now they're going to listen to 9,000 versions of Animal Eyes and pick the best one.

And weren't you telling me even that Van Halen did a live album where Eddie went in afterwards and re-dubbed everything? Yeah, Eddie and Alex, this is in Sammy Hager's book, Eddie and Alex went in afterwards and re-dubbed everything eddie and alex this is in sammy heger's book eddie and alex went in they re-dubbed all their parts and then when they re-dubbed them they played them a little bit faster than they did originally so then sammy they had to call sammy and sammy had to sing the whole entire concert in three hours in a studio and it was just like well that's not a live album at all it's not at all. And I wish you, the night when the people, the table got unruly,

those should be bonus tracks, iTunes-only bonus tracks. Totally. I would buy those. That's where the buck's at. Yeah, those are the kind of suggestions I get on Twitter all the time. I always have to write back and try to be as nice as possible about it, but also be like, I hate that idea. Because, I mean i that is kind of i did give me a copy i did toy with the idea of putting out an album on a major label that had

the whole right incident but the trouble is it colors the whole rest of the show that's true in ways that like it would only be interesting if i just put out that show as an album and i don't you know i think that that's another thing about podcasting that's so great is that even when things go wrong or weird uh there's something interesting about listening to that later you know people love that yeah feeling of real like unvarnished but it's you know that's going to lead to be able to package more things that were like well here's a conversation that happened now you can you know yeah watch it or whatever but uh that's what i people keep saying to me about the podcast the podcast itself yeah why don't you uh film it and put it you know sort of like never

not funny does you know and i'm just like because i want to do a pod i want to do an audio podcast right i want i love radio and i love the idea that that people need stuff to listen to and they can't necessarily watch. So I want to be watching it off the table entirely. You know what I mean? Because I don't want anyone envious of the people that get to watch it, the ones that just get to listen to it. That's like that cutoff that existed for the longest time when I was very small was the black and white TVs versus color TVs. Oh, yes. You know, like, make one person feel bad

because they're seeing the black and white version. It's just like, color's not going to change your life that much. Wasn't that Brady Bunch, yeah, where, like, his hair turns green or something like that? What, is it funny? I can't tell. It was the black and white.

Yeah, did they do much, like, on I Love Lucy, did anything ever hinge on what a color was? Like, you better get me that red dress, Ricky. Yeah, they had to write around all that. That was a spot on impression. That one time that Lucy went in blackface to do her Josephine Baker thing to sneak into the show, that works in color.

Yeah, black and white color. Oh, that's right, that's fine. That doesn't matter. fine then i have no problem with it as long as it wasn't like blue face then you totally miss what you're doing yeah that's why they had to invent color to to fight racism yeah now doug when you when you're when you're a guest on never not funny now doug and when you leave the house you go oh that's right there's cameras and i gotta gotta shave and maybe get a shower and like for this you can just come i can just's cameras i gotta gotta shave and maybe get a shower and like for this you can just come i can just roll in i see what you're saying about my outfit today no no i'm not saying about that though but you think about that pat i do think about it no it's

very true not funny as i'm like ah that's right i gotta get people do i never think of it myself but people do always say that they're like i think of saying to people and i stop myself i even stop myself just now that's another thing thing I like about podcasting over television is that you don't have to wear makeup and outfits and all the other stuff. I mean, I'm not a complete slob. I'm not looking for a license to be a slob. I'm just saying that that's a whole other thing that you go through with television. I think you're more relaxed and comfortable if you don't have to worry about what you look like.

You can just be here and just talk. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if we had ugly voices. I get it, guys. You don't like Never Not Funny. No, but that's the thing about that show is that people do love being able to see it. There are plenty of people that want to see my podcast, and they ask me all the time, but I just like what it is right now. Yeah, yeah. I think that's totally valid. it there's plenty of people that want to see my podcast and and they ask me all the time but i

just like what it is right now and yeah yeah i think that's totally valid might change to a tv show at some point but yeah but then i think that then that becomes a different thing like you can't do on television no matter what the network you can't just do this kind of thing where there's no stopping and there's no really there's a little preparation but basically it's just a conversation like people don't at least right now i think people can't handle that on television because they when you turn on a tv you expect more praise that's what's been discussed is like there's been a little conversation about why not if you just film your show and put it on tv or the internet and you just you just show it as it is you don't try to do it as a tv production right it's like

well do i want to sit there without any makeup on and and like only one or two cameras do i want it to look like public access because i know as a viewer i would think oh this is garbage like i'd have to really be invested in the people and what they're talking about exactly to just watch people sitting around talking especially on tv internet's a little bit different because like that's more some you can kind of sit there and watch it at work or whatever but it's still your it's how you're presenting yourself in audio you don't have to worry about how you're visually presenting yourself but once you put a camera on then you're like oh we gotta and it's boring to watch static shots of things like you know michael bay and and all those types have made it so no one can you know you have to cut every

half a second so do you guys have shows where i i don't even want to like i'm not sure what any of the real housewives look like but my wife watches them all so you know i'll be i'll be like like doing something but but so like like i've heard every episode and you know i kind of have like favorite characters and stuff like that but then yeah like so it's kind of i think we're i think we're heading back to like a new golden age of the uh of like the radio. Theater of the mind. Yeah.

Theater of the mind. Exactly. Well, I think it just, there's just going to be a certain audience segment that it appeals to. Like I, I even think some podcast listeners will sort of come and go based on, you know, like, oh, I had a job for a while where I had to commute every day. So I listened to lots of podcasts. Now I don't have to commute.

So it's harder for me to to do that like as as they start to become available in more places right like where all your devices you could just easily hit a button and hear your favorite podcast yeah that could be that could work out great for for us podcasters do you have an app doug do you have an iphone app i don't and i i really really should but you know that's a question for Matt as well because we work together. But there's so many things we should have. We're not ambitious enough for sure. We actually are. We are working on something that will include that.

So down the road, that's definitely coming in. I really like Marc Maron's iPhone app. I love it. It's really easy to use. I think that's just the Libsyn, the hosting company. You can do apps through that. And yeah, it's great. You can just basically get everything directly on your device instead of having to sync or whatever.

Cool. Yeah, that's definitely coming to anyone listening who wants that for this show. It'll be coming around. Everything's so changing. I like it. It just keeps changing. Yeah. Not certain, but change.

Thanks, Garrett. Amen. You want to sit around and talk about but you like the but you like the modern rock which is like in in and of itself a ridiculous title right like right exactly like when you listen to modern rock radio stations they're mostly playing older stuff it's true yeah yeah it's all from the uh from the 80s and 90s there's the bodines yeah and uh pat's nephew is here. Kids don't even listen to rock anymore, I don't think. They just, I mean, not only don't they buy it anymore,

but I don't know what they like. They like just some drum and bass or something. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah, but I'm flying the flag. I love it. I thought the obsession would lift as I got older, but it just seems to deepen.

Actually, I just read a story that album sales actually went up this past year. For CDs or vinyl? Well, vinyl's been on the increase. They're including... Yeah, more people are getting weird about having vinyl. You know what the top-selling vinyl album was last year? No. Abbey Road by the Beatles.

Yeah, exactly. I think that's a Beatles album. That is a Beatles album. Yeah. It's kind of like people like this, they want to hear it how they used to listen to it

or how the parents might have listened to it. They want to have the hassle of listening to it. They want to flip it over in between.

They want it scratched and ruined every time the dog bumps into the... In college, someone would go, can I borrow your album? No. Because you're going to bring it back. It's going to be unlistenable.

Yeah, because that person was a DJ and they used it to scratch with. Don't loan your records to a DJ. Good advice. Did any of you guys go to Comic-Con? I'm fresh back from Comic-Con today. Not this year. Is there a big music component to that-Con? I'm fresh back from Comic-Con today. Not this year. Is there a big music component to that at all?

What goes on down there music-wise? Anything? Nothing, really. Darth Innovator-ette performing? Yeah, I mean, there might be an occasional link of some kind, but that's interesting that you brought that up because there really is a... I watched at the very end of the Comic-Con for i think seven years now and don't yell at me uh josh whedon josh whedon fans if i'm wrong but for a certain number of years now they've been

playing uh once more with feeling the the buffy musical episode oh that's cool uh at the end like a sing-along version nobody sings along though because even if you're a fan of it it's the songs are not like something you just sit there and sing in a group. But I mean, they have a lot of lyrics that are moving the plot points forward more than trying to be like just a musical number. I mean, it's, it's amazing.

It's an amazing episode in that it was such a, uh, a risk to do like a weird, you know, musical episode. Can we say groundbreaking with, we could, yeah,

it was like, it did what cop rock tried to do but succeeded with it but i think mostly just because even my friend brian posain who hates musicals love that episode because it's still a good buffy episode you know there's a lot of singing and you have to admire the effort of like being able to pull that off yeah it's very complicated but then on top of it it's the episode where all the Scoobies, all the other characters, find out that when they thought they were saving Buffy from hell, she was actually in heaven. And then they pulled her back to her hell on earth.

I forgot about that. And she reveals that in a song. Because the idea in the episode is that you're honest when you're singing in a musical. You just say whatever is on your mind. And wasn't the device was that somebody cast a spell and they couldn't not they couldn't speak they could only say well they could speak but then they break out into musical numbers whenever they would and and then if they got too emotional they would uh they would so they would uh combust they would explode so they would catch on fire and die. That's my big beef with Glee,

is that they don't just, you know, accept that musical convention of, like, you know, bursting into song. They always, like, you know, go to great pains to, like, avoid that. Like, okay, I'm going to rehearse this song, and I really want you to listen to the words because it has a message in it that I want you to know.

Okay, here we go. Rather than just, you know, just sing the damn song and we'll get it. Yeah. You know, that's yeah that show's good I like that you know I'm a kind of

semi-fan of it like whenever they stop singing and start talking I just get like well this is I don't know what they're trying to do here

well Doug you like Glee and you like movies so are you going to go see the live movie of Glee oh yeah it's coming out

in August or or yeah yeah i will but here's it was even on my agenda today i was gonna say do you guys hate 3d like i do yes yes uh it's in 3d right or three glee that's it but i think it's a yeah let's stop right now always go out out on a laugh. No, but it's in 3D. So if I could find a 2D theater, I'd see that shit. Is it? I'd feel embarrassed and I'd try to get a girl to go with me. So it at least looks like I was dragged there by somebody.

Or some kids. Take some kids. Like you're their uncle. Yeah, yeah. Creepy. It's a little weird. Uncle Creepy's here. I think that's probably not the way to go.

Okay. But I wanted to just bring up a couple of comic-con things oh yeah move on to other other i can't go because i have a small child i used to go all the time yeah well they should call it uh movie con because that's all it is yeah it's not really a launchpad for movie and some tv i saw a panel for uh it's always sunny in philadelphia with where they got the whole cast but no but nobody else just the five stars of the show day and day DeVito is out of out of his tree I should say he's in a tree he's not a monkey he's a man but he

is just I he's either playing nuts or he is nuts but either way it's hilarious and and they all came out I'm not I'm not a long-time fan of the show i've only seen a few episodes but like after this panel i am completely sold on on all of them and and want to watch more episodes of the show because they showed an episode from the upcoming season which was fun to watch with like you know it was in hall h at comic-con so it's like 6 000 people or however many fit in there yeah and uh so we all 6 000 people watched the it's always sunny philadelphia episode that hasn't come out yet yeah and it was a kind of a pretty woman parody where uh danny devito's character frank wants to marry a a

whore crack whore and uh so they have to try to make the crack whore not a crack whore and um other funny complications ensue but they came out in costumes from an episode where they all wore costumes they wore those same costumes so everyone went nuts for that because they're at comic-con they're wearing crazy costumes and then uh but then they were just they were all hilarious it was most hilarious panel i'd been to and then of course the the weirdo nerdy questions from the audience and they put a camera on them now. So it's like watching an SNL sketch because

they step in and they say their question and then there's always things where they'll cut back too soon or they'll cut back to them picking their nose or whatever and so it's pretty fun to watch. But it was a very funny panel. Were there any of these people where they go, I don't have a question but I do have a comment?

No. At Hall H, they screen them ahead of time. Oh, wow. And get the question ahead of time, which should lead to better questions if you ask me. But at least they're basically just getting rid of the questions that are just somebody trying to pull something or something like that. But then they're still at a microphone live in front of a bunch of people. a lot of them still get in stuff like that and and just we you know it's always funny when you know i love this show i think you guys are great especially you know and then they name one person on the panel right and then you know everyone else gets all jealous that

they're not the best one according to that one weird weirdo. Did you get any good free things while you were there? I did. I went to the image booth there who does a lot of Robert Kirkman stuff, and they loaded me up. It was ridiculous. I don't go there to get free stuff because I can afford to buy stuff, but it was amazing the stuff they gave me that was that was a great thing to happen also uh somebody dressed up their two-year-old toddler

and did a good job of it as uh heath ledger's joker yeah and uh i i threw that i put a picture of that on my twitter feed immediately because it's it was both amazing and horrifying sounds horrible yeah and um i also i did a show down there at the tipsy crow i want to thank them uh for having me down there at the uh downtown during comic-con i did a show and chris hardwick and brian posain popped by and then i also appeared on uh chris pard pard pardwick chris hardwick did a uh a couple of uh episodes of his show down there, one with some of the cast of Doctor Who,

so I wasn't invited to participate in that one because I just sit there and go. Aren't you Captain What? I'd be like, what? But then he did a second one with Kevin Pereira and Judah Friedlander and a few other guests. The guys from Riff Tracks were there. So anyway, that's going to Nerdist Podcast.

Cool. So look for that from Comic-Con. I had a lot of fun doing that. Did you have accommodations down there, Doug? I did. That is key to the enjoyment of Comic-Con. You drive down and drive back. It's accommodations are important.

Were you on the outskirts? We got to coin this, man. Accommodations. Accommodations. Yeah, accommodations. Were you right the outskirts? We got to coin this, man. Accommodations. Accommodations. Yeah, accommodations. Were you right in the thick of it? Could you walk to your hotel? I was as close to the convention center as a hotel can be.

There's three that are all like, you know, it's right there next to it. And how far out do you have to book that? But I had to go across the train tracks. That is a huge drag. That's your hometown though, right? Yeah, I'm from San Diego, yeah. Can't you just crash at home?

You know, it's like... No. That's your hometown though, right? Yeah, I'm from San Diego, yeah. Can't you just crash at home? You know, it's like... No. Here's an example. There's some sort of festival in Hollywood and you are attending it every day. Would you want to crash in Chatsworth? Oh, it's that far. Yeah, I lived in...

My mom still lives in El Cajon, but I did go out there and see her one day and I took her to see Bridesmaids. Oh, fun. Yeah, I dodged, my mom still lives in El Cajon, but I did go out there and see her one day, and I took her to see Bridesmaids. Oh, fun. Yeah, I dodged the Larry Crown bullet. I thought mom would want to see Larry Crown for sure. She's like, I've never been that big of a fan of Julia Roberts, and it doesn't look that good. Smart lady.

You're a great mom. I will sit through Bridesmaids again happily, because I did want to see it again, because I enjoyed it the first time. But I saw it at South by Southwest where everybody roars approval of every comedy. Right. And I was sitting there going, this is hilarious right here, right now, in this room.

So I look forward to seeing it again. But then, you know, obviously public opinion backed me up when the reviews started coming out. I was like, okay, good. It is really good. Because I loved MacGyver when I saw it. I still call it MacGyver every time i bring it up macgruber that's probably why nobody went to see it i thought it was macgyver there was some funny bits in there just some really funny stuff

yeah good for that ryan philippe he's up for anything huh i guess so he's his new thing is he says he's gonna quit acting oh boy Well, he'll be missed. That way madness lies. What are you going to do with that face? Too beautiful to not be in stuff. It's true. I bet he could get a job standing outside

Abercrombie and Fitch, you know, like those guys do. He could totally get that job. Or he could spin one of those arrows on the street corner. Oh, yeah.

And people would wreck their cars because he's so gorgeous. What are you selling? No wonder he's so willing to give up acting. He's got all these options. Yeah. Oh, yeah. People would wreck their cars because he's so gorgeous. What are you selling, Rick? No wonder he's so willing to give it back to you. He's got all these options. Yeah. That's right.

There's so much he can do. He can do whatever I want. Just give it up. No big deal at all. Have you guys seen any movies lately? That's the thing we should talk about.

Yes. Halfway in. Halfway into the podcast. I think the last thing I saw was Midnight in Paris, which was over a month ago, probably. But we haven't discussed it on the show i liked it it's still number 10 at the nation's box office this very weekend i thought it was a return to form for woody allen if you like woody allen movies oh we did have this discussion okay not on not on not

on mike but i remember you saying that and then i said something like yeah the form of his lesser comedy right it's still but it's a cute movie it's very cute it's very lightweight but it's very purple rose of cairo yeah maybe broadway danny rose i like broadway but you know what i will say owen wilson i feel like i have i've probably said this to multiple people so i don't know if i've said it somewhere into a microphone but it's like so few people can actually do the woody allen part in a woody allen movie and owen wilson is actually one of the people who can can pull it off yeah he pretty much owned it i mean he he owned it but uh but woody i don't know i i just wish woody allen wasn't wasn't old because

younger younger woody allen is just perfect in his movies like he was just so so great at it and not just like even some of the more serious ones, or the ones where he started to shift into seriousness, have such funny sidekicks and stuff. And now, he's either an old man bumbling around, and it's like, that's embarrassing, or he's got a surrogate who's like,

that's not the same kind of comedy. Why don't they do a motion capture, where he could play himself? I know, I know. I was thinking of that the last time i saw the rise of the apes thing i was like if they can make these apes look you know almost good yeah why can't why why don't they just why why is anybody in movies why not just make all movies look like that crap well do you remember they were like years ago they were working on making a cgi bruce lee that was like photorealistic so that they could make another Bruce Lee movie

but like make it look like a real movie I don't know what happened to that maybe it's still out there it might be in litigation or something

cause you know every time there's a commercial where like you know Fred Astaire's dancing with you know Mop and Glow or something

yeah whatever it's always like what how can they do this to a dead dude yeah it's a little weird and his immediate family is probably not alive either so it's not like it's always like what how can they do this to a dead dude yeah it's a little weird and it's in his immediate family's probably not alive either so it's not like it's not like there's

some important benefactor or something i i by the way i hate that motion capture like you hate 3d like i can't look at that polar express uh oh i know those things are awful those things are absolutely like my favorite filmmakers yeah he's making all these weird what's you know things with big eyes that are like oh he's like a he's like a weirdo who's like i don't want to touch humans anymore use the computer yeah i don't know what that is and also but like one of the things that was amazing about zemeckis whether he you know is most of a lot his stuff, he actually had a hand in the writing of it. Yeah. And it was really, he had really good complicated. Yeah.

You know, sometimes the ideas got too complicated, but contact. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, well that's,

that's where I probably went off the rails. There was, I didn't really care for that movie, but, um, felt like I took a couple of contacts cold tablets hello i'm glad you brought it i'm glad you finally put that movie in its place yes finally the perfect insult for the movie contact proper context perfect that but uh i want to say that um i just watched uh i've never seen back to the future but my my son's

like getting up there and uh and you know your Future but my son's like getting up there and you know Your son's nine he's not getting up there Well you know you could like show him those kind of movies Oh okay I see

It was on his kid's bucket list Oh he's nine we gotta get this over with Yeah And then Last Tango in Paris and then

We've only got so much time Nine and a half weeks There's three Did you show them all three of them we just watched the one so far but uh I missed so many movies in the 80s and and uh and especially that one and um the hell were you doing in 85 that you couldn't go see it was I was I was running too hard okay so you never saw it the first time around but but I saw it um recently and I was uh you like oftentimes like like I'm amazed how things don't

hold up but it was really charming and especially like I never thought much of Leah Thompson's acting but she was really good. That was more of a character part for her. Yeah like when she's the old lady part but then even as the kid. No I mean even as the young girl she played very bland characters that didn't have an interesting

thing like that. But she had a little something. So that was great and he liked it and something that didn't hold up though was or I imagine didn't hold up was that Footloose. Oh, so your nine-year-old got to see Footloose? No, actually

I watched that. That was just your own private time thing. My own private screening. You had a little time to yourself so let's go back and look at Footloose again. You know what's funny is, let's go back to Back to the Future. Yes. Back to the Future 2 takes place in 2015. Oh.

That's where they go. That's where there's hoverboards, so four more years. Four more years. And we're going to be hoverboarding around here. I read Infinite Jest last year that takes place in the future. It was written in 96 and takes place in the future, which is 2010. Okay, and what happens?

Well, people still rent videos, so. All right. Tell that one guy I love books. Oh,

sorry. I've seen some movies. Oh, yeah, yeah, tell him. AKA NPR. I have seen,

this guy sees tons of movies. Yeah, I have. I've seen Horrible Bosses twice. Wow. And I saw Captain America this seen Horrible Bosses twice. Wow. And I saw Captain America this week. How was it? Captain America...

Kick-ass? ...was excellent. Was it now? Yes. It looks cool. You're going to see that twice? I will see that twice, and I'll buy it. Yeah, it was excellent.

You'll buy it? Is that on as fast a schedule as Horrible Bosses? How much time went by between the two Horrible Bosses? Like six days. So you're going to be ready for Captain America again? I could have seen Captain America right after it ended. I could have seen it again. You just went to see.

Same with Horrible Bosses? Could you have watched it right away? No. I need a little, because it's comedy. I guess I need a little. But I want to see the action sequences immediately again. Wow. Yeah.

So that's good. But you didn't go just because you loved it so much. Your nephew wanted to see it action sequences immediately again. Wow. Yeah. You, but you didn't go just cause you loved it so much. You were your, your nephew wanted to see it and you had, he hadn't horrible. Yeah. I saw horrible bosses with my wife. No,

I saw horrible bosses with my wife, my, my older nephew, not the one that's in the room right now. He wanted to see it. And I said, I'll see that again. Yeah. I liked it a lot.

I laughed. Yeah. That didn't catch my mom's eye. If she just said she wanted to see that, I would have, I would have been, how did your mom like bridesmaids by the way? Yeah. Did she like, she had to have loved it. Oh yeah. She liked it a lot i laughed yeah that didn't catch my mom's eye if she just said she wanted to see that i would have i would have been how did your mom like bridesmaids by the way yeah did she like she had to have loved it oh yeah she liked it she you know she it's just racy enough the girl from mike and molly is great like she's fallen in love with that woman from watching her

favorite sitcoms are mike and molly and big bang theory and uh and um yeah and so she loved her. And, you know, she said, I tweeted this, but she said, my mom's, basically my mom's review is, those ladies did a good job. Awesome. Like, she just, she just liked it. You know, these women made this movie and it was funny. Like, and she wasn't like doubled over laughing at the diarrhea scene. Right. But she also wasn't disgusted by it. Right. You you know she's just sort of neutral on it she so that was kind of cool

that she was because i was kind of losing it again because i when when maya rudolph is just has to crouch down in the street like i'm not a fan of those scenes like i it wasn't really doing it for me throughout you didn't like them all jumping up into the sink and vomiting on each other. But the street is like undeniable. It's so funny. It's such a good capper to it because there's been so much mayhem that's just like where they're not afraid to overdo it. And also her

thing, this is happening or whatever she says is just like fucking so Would you agree that it was like as tastefully done as that sort of thing could be? I thought, you know, a diarrhea scene. Also very relatable. It's not like in Dumb and Dumber where they eat a million chili peppers first or something. Right. You know?

Right. It's more like anyone could just have a sudden shit attack. We've all been there. On the street in a wedding dress. Preston watched that recently, Dumb and Dumber. Really? Yeah, he thinks it's great. Sure.

He's nine. Those guys are so dumb. Thatumber. Really? Yeah, he thinks it's great. Sure. He's nine. Those guys are so dumb. That was his review? Yeah. But the greatest movie he's ever, like, not only the greatest movie he's ever seen, but the greatest thing that's ever happened in his life, he says, is that Transformers 3D.

Oh, boy. He needs to see some more movies. Yeah. But I want to say I saw that. It's good that there's somebody that can enjoy it. Enjoy it. It was probably the best one of the three. Have you seen any of the Transformers?

But it's robots. Yeah, I did see Transformers 3. It's more than meets the eye. But this kid also likes watching, you know, cement trucks and stuff like that, right? Yeah, that's true. I'm just saying Transformers is so elemental in terms of, like, what a boy would like, for sure.

Oh, yeah, yeah, it hits the spot. And then the boys that are a little older, you throw in, like, a sexy girl to just, you. And then the boys that are a little older, you throw in a sexy girl to just sort of keep them from losing all interest. Exactly.

That white jacket that she had on did not get dirty at all through that whole building's crumbling. Did you see Transformers? I did not.

I thought you loved movies. Oh yeah, did you see, it wasn't in 3D, but the last movie I saw was Tabloid. Did you see that at the Earl Morris documentary? Oh no, I haven't you see, it wasn't in 3D, but the last movie I saw was Tabloid. Did you see that, the Earl Morris documentary?

Oh, no, I haven't seen that. Awesome! That wasn't in 3D? Believe it or not. But it's still, you know, you would think of it. You had to seek out a theater that was 2D, right? Wow, it was tough. Yeah, but that's what, like, you don't need to rush out for that.

It's probably even out of theaters already. But, yeah, definitely put that on your queue. Because, yeah, it's one of those where you just think i don't know where he finds these stories but it's just like you know you know twists and turns and uh it was like a famous case it was like a famous tabloid case in the 70s but i'd i'd forgot about it but uh and then crazy stuff starts happening with dogs i'm gonna check that out i could say i liked it like documentaries are awesome but i never feel the need to go to a theater to see them right right right it's just like right you don't need to see it it has to see them. Right, right, right. It's just like, I'll watch that at home.

It has the same impact on the small screen. But it is fun. That's the only thing about South by Southwest is I'll see a documentary with a packed house. Yeah, that is cool. When there's a particularly funny or touching moment, you could feel a whole big audience reaction to it. But yeah, those are...

In your town, like here, I'd go to Sunset Five to see one of those sort of things and i'd sit would sit there with like seven or eight other people scattered around the theater like we're gonna jerk off and go home oh yeah like i saw man on wire in the theater which was awesome it's a great movie he's crazy but it's not you don't need to see that in the theater really did you see grizzly man on wire because Because that were like, what are the odds that he would be on a wire? He's halfway across between two buildings. What is happening?

I think I stole that from somebody did a contest. I'm pretty sure I stole that. Oh, they combined. Where it was like, I do this game sometimes. We ran out of time to play it today, but I have this game called Build a Title where you blend titles together like that, like grizzly man on a wire and um and they did a thing on crack.com did a contest where they like make posters for them where they had people make posters for those kinds of movies and some of them were pretty funny it's awesome and man on wire was used for one of them but i don't remember

if it was grizzly man on wire or not there's not going to be apologies if i'm ripping somebody off man on wire there's not going to be a sequel. Apologies if I'm ripping somebody off. Man on Wire, there's not going to be a sequel to that, right? No. They're not. I don't think that's possible. Too soon. It's too soon.

Speaking of documentaries, any rockumentaries that you enjoy? Oh, yeah. What's your favorite rockumentary? The last one. Go around the table. All right. Oh, that's right.

Whoever wants to go first. You guys start. I have to think for a second. I have five that's all right. Whoever wants to go first. You guys start. I have to think for a second. I have five that I like equally. I like the Who the Kids Are All Right. Are you reading this off a piece of paper? Yeah. You came with a list of your favorite documentaries?

I thought maybe best documentaries might be something that we talk about. We thought we'd get into it. You set them up so nicely. This is a setup. No, I like the Who the Kids Are All Right. I wish you'd done that 20 minutes ago. Yeah, we've got to get to the game, guys. We were talking about movies and rock and roll.

Metallica, Some Kind of Monster is great. I don't even like Metallica, and I went to the theater and saw that and was totally enthralled. Running Down a Dream, the Peter Bogdanovich documentary on Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. A little long. A little long, that one. See, to me, it's four hours, and I could watch two more hours of it. Okay. Well, you must just not.

I love Tom Petty, but I find a lot of his music, especially, is it like later stuff? Well, no, it's everything. It's everything. And they had footage. A lot of his stuff makes me sleepy. Tom would tell us.

It's so beautiful to listen to, and it lulls me to sleep. He doesn't really rock anymore. Travon Wilbury, that music's so great to go to sleep to. Because it rocks, but very, very softly.

We're talking about film. But it's also not like pussy yacht rock kind of stuff. Yeah, we're talking about films and Tom Petty is a magnetic figure to be sure.

Okay, I'm crossing that line. He's a big screen legend. Wow, he just bowed down. Back and forth, the new Foo Fighters documentary that's out. It's good? It's fantastic, yeah. it goes right from when he when

Kurt Cobain dies the whole way up to the brand new album and it's really cool and the worst rock documentary for me is that Anvil rock documentary I saw the ads for that on VH1 for like two and a half years running and just never went to see it because I was like, that doesn't...

I don't know if I need real life Spinal Tap. I don't know. I like fake Spinal Tap. I like Spinal Tap. First of all, they suck. They absolutely suck. And their songs aren't funny like the ones in Spinal Tap. No, and then you watch the movie and you think by the end of the movie you're going to go, wow, those guys are good.

And at the end you go, no, they suck. That's why he drives a delivery truck and this guy is a mechanic or whatever they were you know what's neat though by some happenstance Anvil was on Tonight Show when Kiss was on Letterman

that should never happen and so you could like flip back and forth and it was like and you could see like and I think Anvil like won that night like I love Kiss

but I think but Anvil was like you know this was like this was like the biggest day of their life and Kiss was just like you know ka-chunk morning day morning paul just phoning it in I love kids. I can't believe that. But Anvil was like, this was like the biggest day of their life and kids were just like, you know,

ka-chunk. Oh, I see what you mean. Morning day, morning problem. Phoning it in. Yeah, just phoning it in. But Anvil was really trying to sell that enthusiasm. Yeah, you can't fake that phone.

It's engaging. Yeah, but man, I'm with you on kids are all right. That is the best. That's terrific. I'm so, I watched that twice in a row when I was 12.

I just sat there and I could not believe it. I was glad that there was that lesbian movie, because I was thinking, like, it would drive some traffic to the other kids. It's so good. But mine was, everyone should watch that. Dig, you watch that with the dig standing Warhols. Oh, that's so good. And also, We Jam O'Connell with the Minutemen.

Have you seen that? No. Oh, that one's a great one. I wish it was more like the Foo Fighters where it kind of ended on an uptick because, you know, it ends with the guy dying. Spoiler alert, but, you know, Mike Wadwin. Yeah, but you never see the tightrope or the bear coming.

Never. The whole time. The whole time. But anyway, any Rocky Manories you enjoy? I didn't prepare like you guys did. The Ramones End of the Century is also good. Ramones End of the Century is good. Oh, Filthy Looker. Did you see that? The sex pistol? I didn't prepare like you guys did the ramones end of the century is also ramones end of the century did you see that the sex business i didn't see that i think one of the take it to your own podcast i think one of the um one of the cable stations was playing woodstock uh quite a

bit like it might have been stars or so somebody got a hold of woodstock and that's that's a fascinating by the time i turned that on it was didn't a young didn't a young Scorsese like edit that or he was a camera guy yeah so that's a good one

did you say last waltz on your list oh that's that's that's more of a concert film for me than than a documentary though okay that counts

yeah yeah yeah I guess it does right films but that is that does have its own name concert film like you don't I guess you don't call a concert film a rockumentary right true vice versa i liked uh truth or dare madonna anyone that is a good movie and also too often imitated now like

too much too many rock docs are like let's follow them around with a camera and shoot it in black and white yeah it was it was entertaining for something that was very like fly on the wall it was it actually held your attention, which is cool. It really had kind of a more of a, even though it was just kind of a mundane tour, they found all the most interesting, and probably sort of created some interesting. Madonna was definitely acting up for the camera. She's certainly better playing herself than anything else. But that was her peak.

To me, that was her creative peak. At her most Madonna-ish. Yes. She makes Kevin Costner look stupid. It does seem like the concerts that they're showing, whenever they go

to the concert footage, it's a pretty entertaining concert. It is. There's a lot of bells and whistles. If you watch, there's a DVD of just that show, that Blonde Ambition tour,

and it's great. You can see the whole thing start to finish and it's fun to watch. I get into her groove. Sure. You got to move. Okay. We're running out it's fun to watch. I get into her groove. Sure. You got to move. Okay.

We're running out of time, right? Okay, let's do it. I was trying to think of a – I guess Woodstock's a rockumentary, right? Yeah. Yeah, that is. And I quickly – you brought up Footloose. It wasn't me. And that's the thing that's crazy about it is that I didn't think that – when I was a youngster and footloose came out i was like

this movie's ridiculous where is there a town where dancing's not allowed now they're remaking it uh what 30 years later now and uh it's like uh has that become even harder to like is there really any place where they could just say hey no dancing well there's all that would be the story maybe i thought didn't they claim it was true like based on some true thing like in missouri i i looked up recently but then um a lot of those like the proms they have those like no freak dancing maybe it'll be like that right it is about it is this new one is about more about the specific like you can't you know you can't you can't that's hilarious dirty dance can't drop it like a top. There's a movie called Dirty Dance. That fucking, Dirty Dancing took place in the, what, the 50s?

Yeah. Yeah, so it's so crazy to me that in the 2000s, there's, or what are we calling these? The 10s? Do we really call them that? I guess, yeah.

The teens. In the 10s, the 10 teens, there are, that there's even that idea. Like, especially with those kids looking the way they do.

Right. They couldn't be those high school kids and also then suddenly there's a rule you were never allowed to dance what's great about the trailers they're not allowed to dance and yet they all dance like they're professionally trained dancers yeah well because they got the girl from uh uh from dancing with the stars which would be one of the reasons why i'm suckered into going to that movie because she's cute and uh oh who's calling frank kelly yeah i can't answer it how do you make it not answer you just press the volume down just throw it out the window shut up this happened in the future

if you flip the thing in the future yeah but this is my buddy frank calling about uh frank man what's up he's over at the pod the john lovitz podcast theater so it's just probably calling to say because he wasn't there that night we did you're doing a show from there we did the tournament of champions part two there and uh it's i won't say what happened because anybody listening this hasn't heard it yet but you can get it for two bucks on itunes was lovitz involved in this lovitz was not there but it was a fun running gag that uh who started that was it uh i think it was jordan brady jordan brady he's up there give him a hand he just kept trying to imply that Lovitz was hanging out. And I was like, there's no way he'd just be hanging out and not insist on being on the microphone at some point.

Just to say, hello, everybody. Or whatever. Whatever he says. He would say, yeah, I was there. I won that show. I was the critic. Doug, it's none of my business, but if he found the critic. You have like no apps.

You have like, you have six. What do you mean no apps? How many apps do you use? It is none of your business. No you found the curtain You have like no apps You have like You have six What do you mean no apps How many apps do you have It is none of your business No no no He said abs You have no abs You have like a little row

Yeah yeah I got But I've got Leonard Maltin I've got Crank That's all you need Those are the only ones I need really Never mind I thought you said

I got Flare Which is a waste of time It's like a DJ thing Oh I see You can make scratchy voices I just said you had Three quarters of a screen And then my friend

I might as well plug this again as long as we're talking apps. My friend John Schrader created this app. Oh, the director of Taxi Driver. Yeah, it's called Shaken Belch. Oh, okay. You mean the writer? Is that Tall John? It's Tall John. Ready? Tall John. Nice. So if you want that kind of sound to come out

of your phone, go ahead and get Shaken Belch. I think it's like $2. We are living in the future. That's great. Well, he thought of it, and he did provide the belching sound. He's the voice of belching. And he knows somebody that can make apps.

I love it. I mean, that's the fun thing about apps and podcasting is anybody can make one. Yep. You just, you know. You guys ready to get malted or what? Whether or not anybody's going to listen. Yeah, I just have a brief speech to make. Go ahead. You just, you know, you guys ready to get malted or what? Whether he's going to listen. Yeah. I just have a brief

speech to make. Go ahead. We'll play. I'm sorry. We're, we're getting, we're running, we're running long,

but I want to say thank you to everyone who did buy and listen to the tournament championships part two. And I also want to say, Matt, this is crazy,

but you know, people qualify by getting movies and zero names or negative names. And like, I always kind of try to remember to write down names. But somebody recently wrote to me on Twitter and said that when he was on, Jeff Garland got Inception and no names.

And, you know, I'm not going to go back and double check. Take his word for it. Right, right. And, you know, to do the tournament the way I like to do it, I like to have nine players and then narrow it down to three and then finally one big winner. And so we have nine names already. We just finished the last tournament.

And because of some people rolling over because they couldn't make it or something, we have nine names. So now we'll just be looking for alternates today, gentlemen. So if you make it in today, you'll just be an alternate. There's going to be a waiting list for this. I'm going to wait a few weeks. I don't want to start up again right away. I don't want it to be, you know just be an alternate. There's going to be a waiting list for this. I'm going to wait a few weeks. I don't want to start up again right away. It's not Doug Loves Tournaments. Yet.

It's Doug Hates Sports. But there's potential scheduling issues, so we do need some alternates. And a couple of these people were alternates in the last round. So here are the nine players. It's also a fantastic lineup. I'd be proud to have all these people actually show up and do it. Andy Wood, Jerry O'Connell,

Jeff Garland, aforementioned, Simon Pegg, Anthony Jeselnik, Scott Aukerman, Paul F. Tompkins, John Hamm, and Edgar Wright. Wow, that's great. That's amazing. I gotta assume a lot of those guys are not going to make it. Jerry O'Connell's gonna make it down cuz he's got the wife with the twins and she she has a career too

so they could kind of take he's also an attorney in Vegas with Jim Belushi I was so rude not rude to him but yeah maybe rude I when he was on the show recently I was like so what's Jim Belushi really like I thought that'd be a funny question but the audience didn't laugh and and he was like, he's all right. It was just kind of like I was trying to set up something. Way to improv, Jerry. But, you know, I don't blame him. He's not going to say anything bad about the guy, but he also probably didn't have anything

great to say either. He could improv good stuff. No, he did say nice things about him. He likes him. He's fine. He loves a cigar. And we didn't talk about it. It's true.

We didn't talk about it off mic, so don't ask me. Him and the governator loved to smoke those cigars. But anyway, good luck, gentlemen. He loves a cigar. We didn't talk about it off mic, so don't ask me. Him and the governator loved to smoke those cigars. Anyway, good luck, gentlemen. Let's see if you can... That's what I'm going to have to do is someday soon,

maybe we'll start right now, I'll have to implement we'll have to take it up a notch and only negative names gets you in. Zero names doesn't get you in. Oh, that'd be a super championship well we're still gonna have a super championship oh the winners of the championships yeah yeah once we have it's gonna be mental it's gonna be matt pronger the winner of this recent one that's gonna go unnamed right now and um the next one right the next big winner all right it's so exciting all right let's get this party started mid-scheme of trivia uh okay so in honor of rock solid uh i i'm doing uh there are different categories but everything today is going to be under the heading of rock stars in movies so yeah i'm going

on the record saying i do not approve doug does not like this but i was not for like one category rock stars in movies. And we've actually played that character. I know, and I'm going to play it again. But there are a lot of them. There are a lot.

There are a lot. And I think I got, I think I got some good ones. But so basically. I think especially going up against these guys, I'm going to be in trouble. But we'll see what happens.

I don't know. You'll see. We'll see. All right. But basically, to break it down the way the game is usually broken down

into categories, we've got 80s, 90s, and 2000s so uh those are the categories you get to choose from yeah and then and then you'll get a year um should we start who gets to pick first uh you know what you're the host why don't we go with well you know i'll go 2000s okay at least it's more recent 2000s we got 2002 2002 or 2006 that happens to me sometimes too i'm loading them in i don't pay

attention to the fact i'm loading in two from the same year but yeah but that's the other thing is like just moving forward i i want to play the game where i just go we they pick a category and then i just go the year is and i just do it you know right people are going to mostly pick okay well we want to do that i'll just pick but no that's okay i'm just i'm just pointing it out because we're you know we out because we never talk. Yeah. I'll take whatever. What was the most recent one?

Oh, I'm sorry. You know what? There's four. Oh, okay. Do you want to go? What's the most recent one? 2009. I'll take it.

Okay. So there's a rock star in this movie. Yes. From 2009. You know, yes. When I say rock star, I just mean- Musical personnel. Yes, exactly. Right, right. That gets- You don't want. You know, when I say rock star, I just mean... Musical personnel. Yes, exactly.

Right, right. That gets... That's actually R&B. VH1 movies that rock drives me nuts. Most of them don't have rock in them at any point. Okay. Now I have to do what Doug always does, which is scan through here for... Okay.

Len says there's some loopy logic and a mediocre performance from one of the stars here. Sorry. Surprisingly mediocre, actually. There's seven names. Doug, start the bidding. In the years 2009? Yep. Seven names.

I'll bring it down a little bit. I'll say six names. All right. Gary? I'll take five. Getting serious. I'm with Doug. I'll take six.

That's not how we go? No. Okay, four. Four names to Doug. 2009. I have no idea. You shouldn't say that. I just want to play.

Are you bluffing?ing like your attitude i'll go three names oh whoa i actually do know i name that movie i can't do oh boy happens to a person i'm glad you said that caught up in your enthusiasm no but i like that because actually somebody because you because we're doing three you're going to get a name that someone that that we were just talking about moments ago. Oh, let's hear it. This might help you because you know this guy. Okay, here are the three names.

We're talking 2009. There's a musician, musical person in this movie. It's got some loopy logic and surprisingly mediocre performance. Here are the names. Okay. Matthew Humphreys. Christine Lottie we weren't talking about her

and your friend Jerry O'Connell Jerry O'Connell and Christine Lottie were in this movie oh I know this movie

that should totally give it away the Jerry O'Connell thing but do you really know it but I can't pull the title music 2009 thing but do you really know i think but i can't pull the title music 2009

oh i can't even picture him in a music movie oh wait wait that seems like it was more recent than that well the movie itself isn't necessarily musical there's just no no no i know that i'm just trying to think i'm just trying to think of that goddamn movie that stars a Beyonce was in it. I will not react to that. I think that's what it is, though, but I just can't think of it because it was just something like, you know, about being mistreated or cheated on or... I can't think of the name of it, but that's what I think it is. Yes.

So I give up. I'll give you the rest of the names. See if any of you guys can... Bruce McGill, Ali Larder, Beyonce Knowles, and The Wire's Idris Elba. Also from The Office.

Also from The Office. What's it called? The movie is called Obsessed. Obsessed. I didn't know it. I knew exactly what movie it was, but I never saw thatessed. Obsessed. I know. Yeah. I didn't know it. All right. So... I knew exactly what movie it was, but I never saw that movie.

Me neither, actually. And I just... That's such a... That title. Yeah. That's just a zero. But the Jerry O'Connell thing did give it away for me. Because I remember...

I just... It just struck me that he had a small part in that. And that was also part of why I kind of wanted to see it. And then... But then ultimately... I remember at the time there was some buzz about it. It was a good, bad movie. It got some okay reviews.

It came in second or something in the box office chart. If you like a dumb thriller, you know exactly what's going to happen, but it's still fun to see it. Yeah, yeah. But that was an immediate example of someone who would never be called a rock star, but she is sort of a rock star.

So that's where we're going, guys. Now you know what's up with this game. And that the movie itself isn't necessarily a movie about rock or music, but it could be because rock stars do cameos in movies about rock. That's right. So it could be rockers turned actors. It could be just someone playing themselves even. I don't know.

I can't remember what I picked even. So Pat was not involved in that. No, Gary got the point. Oh, yeah, because he challenged you. He told me to name it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay. So we start with Pat.

Someone's keeping score. Casey, you want to keep score? Who's keeping score? I don't have a piece of paper. He's asleep. I think it's 0-1-0. Just remember that you have a point, Gary. I have a point too.

All right. Okay. So do I get to pick the year next? You do want 2000s, 90s, or 80s? I'll go with the 80s. 80s. Good call. 84. Okay. So do I get to pick the year next? Do you want 2000s, 90s, or 80s? I'll go with the 80s. 80s. Good call. 84, 87, or also 87.

Again, I do. I'm going to go with also 87. Oh, you're going for the second 87? Yeah. Okay, great. I love it. There's not really a lot to pull from the review other than... That's what happens to me sometimes.

It would be a stinker anytime. I don't know. The first part of the sentence gives away that this takes place in the 80s, but it would be a stinker anytime. And it's got eight names. What year is it? 87. I'll give you another.

Okay. No, that's going to give too much away. Just stick with the, it's a stinker in any time. 1987, stinker any time, four names. Whoa. And now we're going to go this way, right? Am I playing it right? Oh, wait, wait.

Because we were coming that way when he made me guess it. Right, right. So you're going to go this way. That's the tricky part. It's really hard. The same thing can't happen again. So I will say... What did you start out at?

You said four. This movie stinks. I probably own it. I want to get on the board. I'm going to say name it. Because I think it might be hard. It's just stinky in a year. It doesn't narrow it down that much stinky movie from 87 and here are your four names all right you're gonna recognize two of them minimum okay starting with meshach

taylor we remember him well oh i do from designing women yes and uh mannequin uh pam greer sure we all loved her and coffee and all those movies uh anthony uh james anthony shanta yeah yeah and and here's the big here's the giveaway john terleski no gives itki? No. I don't know who that is. Okay, so Meshack and Pam, that's why you were laying on thick with those two. Yeah, these other ones are useless. I catch myself doing that sometimes, giving those extra clues. Like, when do you think you give those? When you think the person needs help knowing who those people are? Oh, well, what did I do?

You kind of describe people as you name them, which I do sometimes, too. But it's hard to know when to do it and when not to do it, because when are you going to help them get it by pointing out who somebody is? Well, you know who Meshack Taylor and Pam Greer are, right? Yeah, how could you not? Jackie Brown. That's right. That's not the answer.

We all remember Meshack Taylor. She had much better billing in that. That's true. Okay, so those are your four names, and it's a stinker, and there's some rock stars in it somewhere. Wow. Is Meshack Taylor considered a rock star? I would hope not.

Now, the rock star's in it, but it's not necessarily one of the next three names. True or false? Oh, he can't give you that much information. I don't know what you're talking about. The rock star could have a smaller part or a bigger part. No, no, no, no. No, they're all listed. In everything I did, they're all listed in the cast.

That's a good general overall thing. That's a good point though because there were some I thought he's just fishing for more information yeah yeah no I wasn't I where's his name on the list I'm not that you'd go like yeah oh yeah I'm not telling you don't know if it's a girl or a man all right let's do it I'm just I'm gonna get you sucker nope it's a great guess you guys want the rest of names okay do you think you know um I have a guess but it's but it's but i'm not very confident in it well let's hear your guess uh tougher than leather that would that would have been a great one no

okay you know what those first two names now that i you've said that it makes me realize how misleading those two names are here are the rest of the disorderlies michael ontkean sure joan cusack okay dd pfeiffer and the star of the film in her film debut suzanna hoff the all-nighter i was gonna say the all-nighter that was the worst movie the all-nighter that's another one i might not have been able to pull the name out but i do remember she starred in a movie. Wow. Yeah. It was the worst movie. Who directed that? Directed by your mother. Yeah. Her mother directed it. Yeah.

And she's kind of like, that's pretty sexy in it too. That's kind of sexy. She's always sexy though, right? Tamar Simon-Hoff. She is my favorite. Well, you know what? They do say there's assorted sexual hijinks and it was grotesque in the AIDS era, though it would be a stinker anytime.

That's what Leonard Vaughn said. That's why you had to say it's a stinker anytime. Yeah. Because you couldn't really mention about grotesque in the AIDS era. Although that would be a good clue. I guess I could have said that. You could have said that. I lost focus for a second. Matt, is it the all-nighter? That would have made it

even harder to guess. Because I would never think of the Susanna Hoffs movies as being grotesque. Considering AIDS happened. What does that have to do with anything? I guess she has sex with several different people. I think there's just a lot of casual sex. So it's 1-1-0.

Yeah. Gary was not involved, so he will pick the decade and the year. I'll go 90s. That's exciting. 90s. All right. Would you like... And then it's coming back my way.

Yeah. Would you like 1990, which I would like to point out is technically the 80s but most people consider that the 90s um if you look at you got a touch of the sam yeah i think i was trying to hold up my maybe perfectly clear in the 80s it was a turbulent year of the 80s 1990 technically every decade starts with a one, not a zero. So that would be, but anyway, 90, 95, or 99. Well, I'm not touching that 95 hornet's nest. I mean that 90 hornet's nest. So I'm going to go, see, 99 is a big year for me.

That was the first year I met Doug. I wonder if it's. Well, let's honor that. Okay, yeah, let's go 99. 99. Let's totally honor it. Oh, man, this is a tough one honor it own it win it okay um all nighter was an easy one though these are all i guess they're all kind of tough but i think you all know these movies once i say them right i mean yeah yeah yeah i didn't i haven't i knew it before you said obsessed

this one this one i'm probably the only person in the room who saw this, so I apologize in advance. Interesting subject matter, overlong and sometimes unfocused treatment, says Len. There are nine names in this 99 movie. I'll start with seven. I'm going to jump to five. Okay. Patrick? What do I got to lose? I'll to five. Okay. Patrick?

What do I got to lose? I'll go four. Okay. I don't think you can do it. There's a lot at stake here. You got a lot to lose. So you're saying name that movie? Yeah, name that movie.

Oh, man. This is exciting. If you fail, Gary gets to win. I know. This is exciting for one reason for me, is that the name The Rockstar is in the bottom four. Oh, damn. Oh. Here we go. Jonathan Brandes. Wait a minute. Jonathan Brandes. Oh, I rock star, is in the bottom four. Oh, damn. Here we go.

Jonathan Brandis. Wait a minute. Jonathan Brandis. Oh, I know who it is. I don't know who that is, but I know this next guy. Tom Wilkinson. I think it's a kid actor. Tom Wilkinson.

Jonathan Brandis, I think, is dead. He was in Ladybugs with Rodney Danger. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow, that's creepy. That's a creepy piece of information. The next name, soak it in. Jewel.

Oh. And the final name, soak it in, Jewel. Oh. And the final name, Jeffrey Wright. I know who Jeffrey Wright is, too. He's in the New James Bond movies. He plays Felix Leiter. Jeffrey Wright does. But, man.

Jewel. I would like to think she plays a stripper. And you probably would have seen it if that were the case. 1999. Wilkinson. Can I tell you something about Jewel's performance in that movie? If you want to see just one of them, that's the movie for you.

She takes a boob out at one point. I forgot about that. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Is Window in the title? No're talking about what kind of weird what are you trying to pull out of me i don't know i don't know just throw out a bunch of random words i'm gonna know it when you when you say i'm gonna know it but i don't know it it was just chair in it let's read the rest of the name see

if either of them know the name of it i know the name of it i mean i feel like if you knew the movie you would know it from jewel but the next two names simon baker jonathan rice myers jim caviezel toby mcguire and skeet ulrich got the top bill jeffrey wright was really that was a movie where i really started recognizing him as being a really good character actor like and i've seen him in a few it was directed by Ang Lee yeah I wouldn't have got that yeah it's got it's it's it I'm so happy I remember the title there's no reason for me remember it ride with the devil yeah but it's a good movie it's really violent and it is pretty good it says like weird that Ang Lee made a movie that totally got ignored and it's actually pretty good movie. It's really violent. It is pretty good. It's weird that Ang Lee made a movie that totally got ignored, and it's actually pretty good.

Yeah, but it's also just a lot of, when they get shot, there's lots of little balls and stuff. And Jewel, she's a nurse, isn't she? They have to cauterize wounds out in the field and stuff at one point. Right, right, right. It's gnarly. Is she a nurse in it? I don't remember. I don't think so.

She just ends up being married to a guy. She has a kid, so there's a breastfeeding scene. I think that's the game, right? That's why I went Mr. Skin on you guys. Did Doug win that one? Wait, I said name it and you didn't? So I win? I think so. Is this the first time I've ever won?

I think you won one other studio. I think I challenged Pat, but I think he pulled up Nate. He challenged me. Oh, yeah, yeah. So Gary won. I'm sorry. Sorry. This shit ain't over! This shit ain't over! No, I knew it was too good to be true. No, he won. He got two points. The shit is over! The shit is over!

That's right. These were hard. Even somebody that's not drug addled like me has a hard time running this game. It's complicated. You have to write things down, and I was not writing it down. I should have been following more closely. These were hard ones. Those were toughies but I like playing with the toughies because

it's fun when you can pull one out. I like to pull out a toughie every once in a while. If I had a remembered obsession I would have had a pretty impressive day today. Obsessed. You still can't get it. I'll never get it right. I should see it, though.

Jerry is my friend. Hey, I'm going to be in Boston, Massachusetts at the Wilbur Theater on August 5th, and we're doing a Benson Interruption taping that will be released later for $2. But you can come to the taping at the Galaxy Theater in Santa Ana, California on August 21st. Can you guys write down, each of you, on one of these blank spots who you would like me to call a shithead?

Oh, I get to do one, actually. You won. Gary won. So Pat gets to do one, and then I'll do one. And then you just call this person a shithead? Yeah, just whoever you want. Some people use it for evil. You've been on this show before. I know, but I forget about the shithead. I'm going to be at the Sherman Oaks Arclight Just whoever you want. Some people use it for evil. You've been on this show before.

I know, but I forget about this shit. I'm going to be at the Sherman Oaks Arclight on Thursday seeing Captain America. I have a superhero movie going club. Some comedians are going to be there. We watch him. You're going to go see Captain America? Yeah. You dress up?

Yeah. I remember one time a bunch of us comics went to see Con Air together and several of them showed up in prison jumpsuits, including, Iul f tompkins that sounds like a scott ackerman joint yeah yeah yeah i don't know if he was if he wore one or not but i remember he went to twilight and wore a cape and fangs oh yeah and said fangs for coming that's right at the end of the movie he stood up and said you don't get one i could say yours if you want, I guess. No, go ahead and say his. Because I agree with the setting. You're trying to get the win and the shithead?

Come on, man. I'm sorry I didn't. It's weird, though, in this setting. Because there's no actual prize for winning, so the consolation prize doesn't really make sense. But it's how I close out the show. I say, so-and-so's a shithead, so-and-so's a shithead, and then the music comes in.

Do you guys have anything to plug? Yeah, I'm going to be in San Francisco on August 19th doing Never Not Funny Live and Running the Trap. That's part of Sketchfest. Go to sfsketchfest.com. We'll be at The Onion for both of those shows.

Two Jimmy Pardo shows. We've got Francis shows. Reporting both of them for the internet or just the Never Not Funny? Just the Never Not Funny will be out for the primo subscribers. But if you're in San Francisco, come check us out. Yeah, Running Your Trap, that's going to be

a live experience. You can't hear later, so go to that. You should watch the game show Who's Still Standing on NBC as soon as one of their fall shows fails they'll put that on it's a game show we're done

and it's a lot of fun and listen to Rock Solid yeah listen to Rock Solid check out Rock Solid if you enjoyed listen to these guys talk about rock and mentories

and solid it's in iTunes you have a whole part of the show where you talk about things that are solid solid yeah

talk about solids yep rocks brick is solid. Minerals. Yeah. Quartz, feldspar. See, we have been watching Breaking Bad.

Yes, we have. No, I only knew quartz and feldspar because of Ryan O'Neill's character in What's Up, Doc? He's a rock. Oh, that's him? That's him on a comedy team? A rock doctor. Quartz and feldspar. Oh, man.

I know. That would be a great comedy team. They were one of the original kids in the hall alright so we'll be back in studio next week thank you to Gary Lucy

Pat Francis good luck with Rock Solid and Matt Belknap good luck with all of our future plans thank you you too

all of our app endeavors and things that are coming up and as always Jim Belushi is a shithead and you wrote down Jerry O'Connell and I started to cross it and I crossed it off Chris O'Donnell is a shithead. Yeah.