Doug Loves Movies - Raanan Hershberg, Samm Levine and Johnny Taylor Jr. guest

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

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Doug hates candy wrappers screening maybe sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see because Doug. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. I just want to say really quick that the guests on these Zoom shows have to sit through the theme song just like in a live show somewhere. I don't know why we could just put that on later. we could just start, but I don't know. Maybe I like the energy. Maybe it's an ego thing.

My name is Doug and I love movies. This is Doug Loves Movies recording on Wednesday, May 20th, 2020, 26. And my guest today are just an amazing batch of manhood. They are Rihon Hursberg. Good to be here. Johnny Taylor Jr. Hello. Hi, Doug.

It's fun having all men because I can say, hey, guys, and I don't feel even the remotest bit of regret. I normally feel when there are one or more ladies present, because they're not guys. That's right. Let's meet these guys, these fellas, these dudes, individually, alphabetically by first name. He is a returning champion.

It's Johnny, Taylor, junior, hey dude. Hey, what's up, dude? I'm here. I'm ready. You finally here? Yeah, you won. I don't even remember who you beat or when it happened.

But that's what my records say. So maybe I remembered it wrong or something. No, I want to march at some point, I think. I think so, yeah. That's what I'm feeling. But you're doing good. You're ready to go up against some tough competition today? Yeah, I'm looking at the lineup and,

I don't know. You're looking at it. Just looking right to top of my PC here. It's published somewhere. The names. Oh, you can see them on your screen. I guess it's the only thing we're all looking at. I don't want to spoil anything.

There's some tough ones on this one. Yeah, it says so. One of those tough ones, I'm going to introduce them right now. it's another returning champion. It's Renan Hersberg. Hey. Good to be here. Yeah,

I'm excited to do this. Last time I completely missed it because I just had a kid. I don't care as much about the kids, so I was able to remember. Right. Now that the kid's a few weeks older, knows the ropes. Those ropes. They go up so fast. Back to prioritize movie trivia.

The kid is off to your overall negligence, so this is no big deal. just podcast for an hour. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, it's good to be here. I'm excited. Yeah, these are, you know, I know. It's an intense lineup.

It's an intense lineup, but still probably relaxing as compared to a pair of a child. So a nice moment of freedom, honestly. Well, and we already know from the introduction at the beginning, who the third guest is, Let's move on. No, I'm kidding. It's reigning champion, another reigning champion. Always and forever a champion. It's Sam, the M, Levine, et cetera.

How's it going, Sam? Oh, it's good, Doug. Hi, Renan. Hi, Johnny. It's a pleasure to be here. Oh, it's good to hear your voice, Sam. Yeah. You know, Renan, I'm a big fan for a variety of reasons.

One, I think you're a terrific comic, but two, your last name is Hershberg. I know. It's a kinship. In glorious bastards We've got a shared Bond there I mean sure But my Hirshberg

Spelled it a little differently But that doesn't matter Was it spelled differently? Oh I didn't realize H-I-R-S It's the closest I'm a huge fan too Of course

I love your stuff All the way from Freaks of Geeks But it's It's the closest I've ever had The character Have my last name It's so huge

And Brad Pitt yells it He does Herschberg It's amazing Yeah damn at Herschberg You should make that your ringtone if you haven't. Or put it at the beginning of,

put at the beginning of all of your promotional materials. Yeah. Your promotional reels. Now you've got to play a character named Ronan to seal the deals. Put that in your contract. Wait, is it Ronon and not Renan?

It can go either way. Ron on, Renon. Yeah, it's open to interpretation. Well, it's not looking like a piece of art on the wall. Well, there is a way you prefer it.

I don't, I'm cool either way. It's, it's like, it's Hebrew and you can't, in English, you can't do that guttural sound, like,

like, no one, like, so it's like, it can kind of go wherever you want, I feel like, because, he's,

he's accepting people's limitations, Sam. I can't say, I can't say, I can't do the gutter, I can't pronounce my own name correctly. So I can't, I can't expect other people to,

you know, wow. It'd be hypocritical. but yeah it's you know we've we've discussed this before so that's why I try not to worry about it

but you do want to say people's name the right way you know what I mean you know there's got to be some people you know when they find out a little too late in the game they get upset so that's why another reason why you let people mispronounce your name is because you know they're going to be more upset about it than you when they find out they've been fucking it up from

four years. I think people really want to get the name right. And there's a part of me that enjoys the frustration of just saying you can say it however you want. Because I know it like really upsets people deeply because they're like, no, I want to get it right. I don't want to fuck it. And I just like, I enjoy. Well, yeah, you could just keep changing it up. You can keep changing it up in subtle way. So they keep getting it wrong. Johnny, how do people mispronounce your name? Joni you know Oh cool

The Tyler John Tyler I hate that one Oh Just ignore the A altogether I've been introduced on stage

It's Johnny Tyler And I tell you what Tough Yeah I'm sorry I did that Fucking asshole Thanks for being here All y'all

And before we play some games today I like each of you To you know what Recommend a movie. We'll start with Johnny Tyler. Please recommend one movie. You know, I just got around

to that Frankenstein. I know I'm late to the Deltoro one? Yeah. No. The other one that came out recently. You know, they did have another one come out since that one. That one probably wasn't as good.

The bride was more about the lady than the monster, but this one was great and i watched it in chunks it's kind of long so i did some laundry came back to it took a nap came back to it i watched it like six chunks like like a limited my own limited series or you could just imagine like that you were reading the book yeah it was uh but i loved it that dude um from star wars he's fucking awesome in it and uh if you're just like in the mood for like wait was this the first trivia question question.

Do we buzz in? Oscar Isaac was good. That's that, dude. Yeah, he was good. And then the big Frankenstein monster, like grew long hair, looked like a doobie brother. It was,

I don't know, man. I really liked it. It moved me. I related to Frankenstein. It won a few technical awards at the Oscars because it is a sumptuous production. and yeah, I really enjoyed it.

But it does, I think you almost need to take breaks because when I saw it in the cinema, there's a point in the movie, the story feels like it's over, and then they go, well, let's go back and tell you the story again from the monster's point of view. So it feels longer than it is,

but it is really good. You should have just made a mini-series. You're like what you were saying. Limited series or what, Yeah, I think that would have been cool. It could have had different cliffhangers. I would think he would enjoy putting a cliffhanger in every few minutes. That's it.

That is actually in the pronunciation. You actually got it. Could you recommend a movie, please? I guess I got to recommend. I just saw obsession. You like he? I really liked it quite a bit. I think it had, for a movie to be made by a 26-year-old,

for me to like that, like, could not be jealous, you know? Right. It has to be, like, really good. And it definitely hit that. It passed that test. I thought it was very unique and uniquely, unique story and, like, kind of funny. And, yeah, dark. And, yeah, I thought it was great.

I highly recommend it. So, I mean, everyone's, I feel like everyone's recommended it. But I'll have to be. you know, it's definitely had a lot of talk, and that's probably why it's, you know, had a pretty decent weekend at the box office. Some of people were pointing to, look, an original story did well at the box office,

and then another person points that says, yeah, but it was horror, and horror, you're cheating already to do a horror movie. I'm sick, yeah, exactly. You don't need big actors, you know. No. But, like, I'm sick of, the buzz is annoying because everyone's like, oh, my God, it's unprecedented.

a low-budget horror movie that made money. And it's like, that's every year. That's why they make them because they're low-budget and they can potentially make money. It is great. It's like hereditary meets like a Halloween Simpsons episode. And it's just, it's great. Yeah, I loved it. All right.

Well, we're really, for the month of May, we have some really dark choices so far. Sam, do you have some? more, you know, a little more of diffidels. Yeah. So this film, I believe,

won best picture for last year, one battle after another, which of course I saw in, yeah, I saw in the theaters, but it's on TV now. It's on cable.

And so I found my... You just found my... You're just now getting around to recommend it one battle after another? I don't think I've had an opportunity to recommend it since it came out.

Can I change mine to the Godfather? There you go. But here's a... Godfather, Godfather Two, Sam is Jack. Jack, the Robin Williams movie? Yeah, I gave

you guys three Coppola movies. Three Copos. Better than Godfather three, honestly. No, no, don't you, don't shit on Godfather three. It's misunderstood. Are you a Godfather three defender? I am a Godfather three defender,

but here's what I think is crap is that Coda that he just put together over COVID. He went back and recut part three to make it tighter. Oh, really? Oh, it's, I hate it. I hate it so much. That's so funny.

It's like the first director's cut that makes it shorter. Exactly. Who does that? Maybe it was shorter people would have liked to. That's what I think he thought. But here's what I'd like to point out. Godfather Part 3 was nominated for Best Picture. And were it not a Godfather movie,

were it not trying to live up to Godfather part one and two? If it were just some regular old mob movie, I think it would have been much better well received. I agree. It's not as bad as people see. It's a problem is Pacino's like he became a different actor by that point. Like he became the new one who has like his southern accent for some reason. They're a loud out first guy. And then he's put into that.

So he's doing the hoo-ha as a guy who's like the exact opposite. Just what I thought I was out. They pulled me back in. Who-ha. Not exactly. I don't know why Kevin Pollock just got on the line. I've been hanging out with him for 20 fucking years now. There's nothing I can do about it.

If he does an impression, you do that impression. It's part of who I am now. It's part of my DNA. It's melded. It's very upsetting. I do like the Sam said, just over COVID, like that just happened. Yeah, six years ago. You guys saw that, right?

A couple weeks ago when COVID was happening. Well, that's why I'm so, you know, that's great that he got around to one battle after another. just six months after it came out. No, I'm telling, no, again, you're asking me to recommend something, and I have not previously recommended this film, and it has come to my attention that plenty of people have not yet seen it.

So perhaps one of them was waiting for a time to see it. I think you're playing another one of your games. I don't play games. Next time you're on, you're going to recommend two guns, and then the next time you're going to say three amigos. It's a little bit of a joke. I can assure you this is no game. It was on TV.

I watched it over the weekend and thought, man, this is a good flick. That's all. That's all happened, Doug. I swear to you. It is one of great movie. And you just really got around to it or you had seen it in the show? No, I saw it in theaters. I saw it when it opened, but I hadn't rewatched it since then. And now that it's on HBO, I recommend it the rewatch. You're recommending the rewatch.

You always watch everything twice before you recommend it. You have to be sure. Yeah. I do think it's better as a rewatch. I think I've watched it like maybe three or four times now, which is I guess the whole day, if you combine it all. But like it's better the more you, I mean, it is like it is, it's better each time you watch it.

Yeah, there's a lot to enjoy there that you miss the first go-round. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and it's, you know, the tonal changes and stuff. Like the first time I saw it as like, am I supposed to be in suspense about Leonardo's predicament or am I supposed to think it's hilarious? And it turns out it's, little of both.

Yeah. You know? Yes. Yes. So, like, it is interesting, because I did see it a couple times in theaters. It's kind of fun how the audience really does kind of,

like, come to life and laugh during just a few scenes. But they were running around calling that movie, a comedy and a satire, and I'm not really sure that I am on board with that. I thought it was more like a, just a, you know, a thriller action. I didn't feel like they had,

that much to say. But on that note, thank you for these amazing. I can't believe you guys, I don't know where you pulled these movies from, these underdog movies. The most popular movie right now and most popular movie last year.

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Back to the show. We are back at Dinosaur's Story and our first game today. is a little bit this is bittersweet this game because it's called RIP Rex Reed Oh

Yeah film critic Rex Reed passed away a few days ago and love him or hate him You had to hate him Look up the word Unctious in the dictionary You'll find a definition of unctious

Because what did you expect It's a dictionary But I will say this. I would always found him to be way off base in his opinions, and whenever I happened to agree with him, I hated myself for it. So I will quote one of his snippy, snappy, snarky review. Oh, no. And then you have to guess which movie he was reviewing out of all the funds that were released while he was alive. Oh, come on! And taking shots at everybody.

Johnny gets a guess first. If he misses, then Raman gets a shot. And if he misses, then Sam Am gets a guess. And the first of you get two of these right or the most after five is the winner. Can I ask a question real quick about it? Please. Can we, do we get to know when he retired from film criticism or no? Or is that something where you're?

I believe he kept at it until pretty recently. Oh, okay. All right. I think he, for some reason, I feel like the last time he, something he reviewed irritated me was he went and saw Beetlejuice on Broadway a few years back. And his review was just, it was like, what did he even watch? Like, because that's the thing is he got a reputation for reviewing things that he hadn't even seen. He just write a bunch of insulting things about the people involved. Okay, so anyway, as you can imagine, this game is not, it's not going to be easy.

really or is it going to be too easy johnny here's the first one a load of moronic and incoherent garbage what movie was he talking about oh man somebody to have a tendency to be very specific like if you know you know it's clear what he's talking about a load of moronic and incoherent garbage Well, that is one of us more famous quotes. So I think, I mean, I'm going to go with hamburger. Hamburger the motion picture. I love it. It's totally something that you would have said about that.

His reviews were kind of cut and paste. It's a bunch of insulting words. Renan, do you have an idea what you think this might be? I mean, this is tough. You're basically like, this movie sucks. Which movie is it? Yeah. I think the next one will be a little bit more,

have a little bit more clues in it. A load of moronic and incoherent garbage. Moronic and incoherent garbage. Maybe apply it to a movie that you feel is exactly that. Like, you just thought was moronic? Moronic and incoherent. I mean, I don't know.

I guess I'm having to burn a movie now. Yes, that's what I'm trying to get you to do. Well, we know you like obsession. What don't you like? A load of moronic and incoherent garbage. I don't know. Would it be, let's go with, what's it called? I'm going to have to get a clock.

Inception. Inception is a little garbage? It's not. It's coherent. No, it depends on who you're talking to. The people who got it. You're really forced to. Or the people who are actually smart.

Sam. Okay. Now I want to go on record. Okay. As saying, the answer I'm about to give is not how I personally feel because it's not about my personal belief in the film. It's about whether or not. Reid felt this way about the film.

Sure. Okay. I want to make that abundantly clear. All right. Kangaroo Jack. Oh, man. He famously hated Kangaroo Jack. Famously hated it.

I thought it should have been nominated. It's very bad at how little the kangaroo is in it. And, but that was not the, that's not the answer this time. That is not it. It was a terrific guest, Sam. Thank you so much. The movie he's talking about is Mulholl and Drive. Oh, God.

yeah, a much beloved David Lidgeville. All right, back to you, Johnny. All right, let's go. This piece of pretentious, paralyzing twaddle is the latest in a series of head scratchers by the incompetent, self-delusional M. Knight Shamelon.

There's going to be a lot of moving here. That helps, so that's a clue. What was that one with everything? In the elevator. It's called a devil. I think so, yeah. I'm going to go devil. I don't think that's the, that is not the answer.

Is that even the fucking movie? You had me convinced. No, I think you're right. He produced that movie. I don't think he directed it. Well, there you go. All right. Run on.

Can I hear the quote one more time? This piece of pretentious paralyzing twaddle is the latest in his series of head scratchers by the incompetent self-delusional. I could have just given you, it's the latest M. Night Shyamalan. Oh, it's the latest M. Knight-Sharmelon? When he wrote this review, it was the latest one. Oh, yeah. Well, I think, I'm thinking of pretentious. I would go with the, God, what's it called? Was Paul Giamatti, the Lady in the Lake?

Is that what it's called? Am I getting it? No. That's not what it's called. But is that the answer? That's not how game shows work. The woman, wait, hold on. I can't tell you yes or no to the answer to what you're thinking it is. I'll just go to the village then. No, it's not the village, Sam.

I feel like you were trying to help him. Is it Lady in the Water? It's Lady in the Water, yes. I was like, I was even more specific. I would have guessed the happening, by the way, before Lady in the Water. I just always thought it. Lake Lady. Lady the Lake,

I feel like that was like definitely the more pretentious. That was when he was getting really pretentious. No, that was definitely the clue right there. And, you know, and also that, you know, he had, Rex had had enough of MIT Chamblant.

So you know he had to sit through a few of them before he really just put his foot down. It'd be so funny if the answer was six cents. He had made a movie before. Yeah. He made that one with Rosie O'Don Wide awake, right? Wide awake, I think it's what it was called.

All right, guys. It's Johnny's turn first on this next one. Here we go, John. The biggest pile of incomprehensible gibberish to hit the screen since M. Knight-Sharmelon's Lady in the Water. Oh, man. Well, it can't be Philadelphia because I came out of there. let's uh let's see here lady in the water came out what 2005 maybe 2006 sure so then this is something that came out

something after it after I don't know how long he held his grudge against that particular mostly picture could have been the next week or could have been years could have been a while yeah um it's one battle after another yeah um um um okay oh this is this is tough because well let me give you another clue you're not of all the movies i want a clue that was the clue you're not going to get you cut out in here oh sorry sorry the clue is you're not going to get it oh yeah um okay yeah that that does narrow it down yeah so just say a movie yeah i'm going to go with uh the force awakens i love me it. I love it. That means such a weird thing

to go back and back on Amnich Hamlon. But the answer is still pretty weird too. Renan does that clue apply to me too? No, I take it back. You are going to get it. This is annoying, but can you just read the quote one more time? I'm sorry. I feel like this is part of a comprehensible gibberish to hit the screen since

Amnight Shyamalan's lady in the water. It can't be M. Night Shyamalan, right? Because he wouldn't have said Eminet Shamaulans. He would have said, No, it had been said since his last movie. So the biggest comprehensible Lady in the Water Um

inception Nice. Nice. That's a good go-to on all of these I think. No, it's not inception. Sam. Okay, so wait a minute.

I was going to guess the happening, which I believe was his follow-up to Lady in the Water. But it sounds like you just said this is not an M-Night Shyamalan film. I thought what thing was before Leighton. but yeah he wouldn't say m nine shaman chanelon he wouldn't give him the possessive em oh wow wow he'd be he'd be like since his last disaster right right oh no um then i have uh is this kangaroo jack it's a wild see if both of you stuck with those answers in section of kangaroo jack it could pay off those are both terrific examples of misunderstood cinema

But man, this is so funny, though, that you say Inception because this particular movie that Rex Reed was talking about is the prestige. So it wasn't Christopher Nolan. Oh, Renan, you were so close. But I think the prestige is great. And I actually think that's not a coherent. I think inception isn't coherent. I think prestige works.

Well, that's where, you know, it's a good thing that Rex Reed is six feet under. so you don't have to deal with it. You don't have to deal with his wild opinions. Okay, so nobody got that one. We're back to Johnny. You can just guess quicker this time because this is another one.

There's no reason for anybody to figure out the answer. Great. It's just interesting what the answer is. I was actually pretty close, but yeah. Makes you want to never see a movie again as long as you. He did not want to see it. another movie after this one until yesterday.

I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with mother. That's a perfect one. I could see him being very upset by mother with an exclamation point, but no, that's not the answer. Renan? This is really how I felt this inception,

but I don't know. I'll go with, make you never want to see a movie ever again. God, that's got to be something quite bad. I don't know. Tannett. I have no idea.

That's fun that you're really giving it to Christopher Nolan. I'm just following that theme now. I have to. I have to commit to it. I saw today that Christopher Nolan has never sent an email. Oh, yeah. Yeah, what a life. Okay.

Sam, that was good, Sam. Obviously, that is 2001's not another. movie. There he goes again. Plug in his own shit. That's wrong. Man. You know what?

I want to change my movie recommendation. Let me guess. Impulse. It's just called pulse. Oh, right. I was talking more of my decision to watch it. Nice. This one makes you never want to see a movie again as long as you live.

It's a movie that I've just been reading. like there's a certain kind of person, the kind of person that loves one battle after another and loves, what was the other recent movie that all the men fell in love with? Oh, once in a time in Hollywood. You know, there's these movies that just say come along and, you know, you don't want to talk badly about them

in front of any man. Sure. Because they just fall in love with them. And that's what this movie's becoming strangely. I've tried to watch it several times over the years and I really want to appreciate it more than I, do, but I can't. It's called speed racer. It's called Speed racer?

The Wachowski film. Yeah. Which is like an excellent adaptation of the cartoon. I just don't think I like the cartoon to begin with. So then all this money and special effects they threw at it just don't. I don't know that. It just doesn't work for me, but some people love it. If this was Jeff Bridges? Is that the one of Jeff Bridges? No, it was Matthew Fox and John Goodman. Emil Hirsch

was Speed Racer I don't know the name of the gentleman who played the monkey Oscar Professor Fred J. Muggs. All right we're back to Johnny How long is this game go?

Doug, do you have any fans in their 80s? What? Do you have any listeners in their 80s who might get my Fred J. Muggs reference? Oh. You got like drag matters? something. No, he was like, he was the co-host on the Today Show. In the early days of today's.

In the 50s and 60s. Yeah. Yeah, he was on there until his mother got abducted and then he, uh, then he left the show. Oh, no. Okay. This is the Rex Reed review. I walked out at the point where he grabbed a pair of sharp scissors and cut his tongue off in blood spattering. Finally, one I know.

Yeah, but Johnny, do you know it? I don't. I don't. That didn't happen in Willard, did it? No. I mean, I can't say. I walked out the point where he grabbed a pair of sharp scissors. I'm glad that Rex pointed out the scissors were sharp.

The dull scissors were horrifying. Cut his tongue off in blood spattering close-ups. I do. What are you going to do? Do a long shot? Like, what does he want? I actually do, I do, there was that movie, Speak No Evil. Oh, that happens in that movie?

Didn't that happen to that? It probably should have. Not the guy to. That's where they can't speak. It's to the little girl. Oh. Yeah, even better. Is that your guest, Johnny?

Yeah. Wrong. Renan? Well, I assume this is what I consider one of the greatest movies ever. Old boy? It is Old Boy. Which old boy? Which old boy? boy. I'll tell you, Sam.

It's the one that started at all. The one with, yeah. Yeah, one of the but the movie's like over at that point. So he's just walking out like a minute before the credits. Well, you know.

He also has to, he also has to spoil it for everybody by saying what happened right before. I walked out when Leonardo DiCaprio died, Titanic. I was done with it at that point. Well, there is a lot left after that. The lady has to throw it. I guess you're right. Bad example. Yeah. There's a lot more time with Bill Paxton. All right, Sam, yeah. To break the tie, all you've got to do is, this is pre-written, as you know. All you got to do is guess this last one, if you miss, then Renan gets a chance.

Right. But I don't think if both of you miss, it'll be shocked. Uh-oh. Ready? Yep. You won't find... What does this say? You won't find... Oh, you won't find a landfill.

He's bringing up landfill. You won't find a landfill anywhere more offensive than Spike Lee's stupid remake. Sam? That's old boy. It is old boy. He did it. Thanks.

But he hated the original, so what does it matter? He's like, like, well, I mean, there's no way he wouldn't like that, I guess. Right. But that is so funny that, like, I just love the idea that Rex Reed had to sit through that movie twice, essentially. And I wonder if he walked out before the scissors the second time. My guess is the... I think he walked out and fell asleep during a lot of movies and then just wrote a bunch of insults and then... and then sent it in.

So congratulations. Sam won that game, but as we all know, it just means that Sam gets to go first in our next game. And, yeah, the absolute difficulty level of some of those was ridiculous. And then, you know, and then the other way to go is to sort of give it away with the one that has more clues in it. So fortunately, since he's dead, we probably won't play that game again. Thank you. But you never know, because I do love how unhinged his reviews were.

Maybe we'll do a new version of Leonard Malton, but with Rex Reed. Rex Reed. Get Pauline Kale on the case. A real tribute to film criticism. All right, we're going to take another break, and then we're going to be back with the big game that's going to decide it all. We are back at Dinosaurs Story. Sam. Yes, Doug.

You get to go first. Oh, so exciting sometimes. Yeah, you're going to go first in this game that I think you're going to love it, Sam. Oh, boy. And then Renan will be a second and then Johnny, but you're all going to get three turns in this game that I'm calling. What's up, bro? Love the enthusiasm. Bro!

I have in front of me the entire filmography, both together and individually of the legendary Cohen Bros. Oh, boys. I've listed them in the order of their Rotten Tomatoes scores. Oh, wow. You will take turns guessing Cohen Brothers movies that you think rank the highest. I know I have a, I don't remember it exactly. going down this way as the

Cohen brothers movies would come out I just thought they were all pretty beloved by critics and audiences alike but you'll each get three guesses if you guess the number one Cohen Brothers movie

this again is you know one of them made two movies on his own and the other one made one one movie on his own that's all say about that number one's worth ten points number ten's worth one point and after all three guesses by all three players will add up the points

and the crying will begin I should also note that these movies are directed not written or produced and their feature length also no shorts or apparently they also directed something that was part of an anthology

so those don't count but of course they wouldn't Why would they even get great reviews? Not a lot of critics out there going, I gotta see some shorts. I got a deadline. I need to see some shorts. Sam, what is your first guess?

I assume you're a fan of their work. I am a big fan. That's going to play into your choices here today. This is troubling, Doug. I have so many options. You've got to make some choices. here. I got to make some tough choices.

Otherwise. Yeah. Sophie only had two things. You have, I think about 21-ish movies. Great. So what's your first one, Sam? All right. I'm taking a swing here, and this is either going to...

It could level me. I don't know. I'm just, but I'm taking a swing. Okay. And I'm going to say, blood simple. You are coming out with the first feature film that they directed together. I am. I remember it.

Well, I don't remember I was very young, but I know it put them on the map. And I know it was very well received. And it's what their career is based off of. So sometimes I've learned with Rotten Tomatoes, an old movie, new reviews will still come in for it. Sure. And then that can help the score. So that's why I'm thinking, Blood Simple, Doug. That's a fantastic theory.

My one thing that I love about Blood Simple is the crazy camera work that Barry Sondonfeld did as a cinematographer and then went on to do in his own movies as a director. Oh, yeah. Of course, Francis McDormann, having a, you know, that big of a great part that early on her career was great for her. Sam? Yes, Doug. It is number three on the list. All right. Number three on the list.

Take it off. Take it, Doug. You're off to a strong start. And next we go to Armand. So this is the highest, highest reviewed and second highest. That's what you're looking for is the top two. But just also, just for extra edification, Blood Simple got 94% on the RT.

See, I think Therefore, you is I think their best reviewed movies have to be either it's either Fargo or no country as number one And I'm going to go

Why don't you break it down Name as many of them as you can It's the 20 It has to be I mean, I think they're I think they're one and two but I'm trying to debate which one would be first. I guess I'd say

Fargo 1 and no country 2. Can I guess both or no? No, no, you're just one at a time. I'll just get Fargo. Someone else is going to take your other guess by the time it gets back to you. Probably. I don't know.

So I'm going to get Fargo. You're going Fargo? Turns out Fargo is tied for number one. Whoa. At 95%. Wait, can't I just use my other one? You can just wait your turn.

I really shouldn't have said that. Enjoy those points you got for that one. I shouldn't have revealed my thought process. Wait until it comes back around. I tried to steer you in the right direction. Sorry. I know when you recently, when you have a baby, your brain doesn't work right.

anymore. Johnny? Yeah, I feel bad just saying, you know, country full men at this point. So I'm not going to. I'm going to go with true grit. You are such a, what's the word I'm looking for? It's probably four. Menge, yes, mensch is the word. Because, you know, you should have just went for it, but it turns out, you know, when you do the right thing, at sometimes it works out your behalf because crew grit is tied for number one with far go wow wow what a moral yeah that's awesome hell yeah have uh 95 percent and they're the top two reviewed top two best reviewed movies by the cohen brothers sam this is i don't know what's happening here this is unusual that you are in third place after the first round it's so let me get this straight

I got number three and then they both got the movie tied for number one. So I can't believe we did you didn't say no country because it's got to be up there. It's got to be right at one in one best picture. Well, he was trying to decide between both of them tried to decide between those two. I don't see how Johnny advocated for the better answer. I guess it was. So I'll say. Yeah.

No country for all. You're taking it. I don't know what else. I'm going no country. I'm going. Well, it's an interesting thing where no country for old men is because it is tied with two other films for fourth place. Wow.

Oh, fourth place. Uh-huh. Because we've already got one, one, two, and three. Because you see, there is no number two because one is tied. Exactly. Oh. Oh. This is some crazy shit.

Yeah. No country came in it with 93% And we still got You know Lots more movies to go So I'm on what's your next guess So I'm guessing for like four now right Sorry I'm well you want to be as high up there as you possibly can

And I'll be suitably impressed if you come up with number of four It's two other two other movies tied with no country Two other movies tied with no country I mean I feel like it's got it. I'm not going to say it out loud this time. Even though that didn't help, really. Best reviewed movie at number four.

You know what? I'm actually going to go with Inside Lord Davis. Solid. Good movie. That's like... That's a movie that I had to say. I had to rewatch to appreciate the first time

I was just too in that headspace of like, this guy's unlikable. That's what I love about it. Right? That's what grows on you as you go, yeah, but look at all these other dipships. The minute he asked for the money for the abortion from the boyfriend of the girl he knocked up, I'm like, this is my

kind of money. I just love a I love a scumbag. I love that movie. My man, Lewin Davis. Inside, and also, who are to be inside that guy nobody he doesn't want he doesn't want to be inside

Louis Davis it is number seven and I've designated that for those four points for that one but they're still in the 90s there's a 92 percent of so like they got a handful of movies they got

the greatest directors of all time are they in my opinion and by the way just want to say one of the great outrages of all time side and sound came out with their 100 or 250 greatest movies of all time not one Coen Brothers movie insane

yeah insane one of the craziest thing that's ridiculous out of out of curiosity how many of the spots did kangaroo jack take took the first five that's fair that's tough but fair what a weird ass list

were there any other like no like obvious omissions like did they like like this is the list that went Casabaga No, no, Casablanca is on there. It's a very pretentious list. Like, Catsa Blank, like, Godfather's, like, actually somewhat high up. Yeah.

Number one is, like, the French movie by Chantelle Ackerman. I forget what, that's, like, from the 70s. Yeah. But, yeah, now it's insane. To me, they're the greatest directors. Johnny. So, I got a few contenders here. that I'll name in order.

Perfect. I'll do this one. No, I, I'm on the fence. I don't know if this was even like critically acclaimed, but Miller's Crossing. Miller's Crossing

is one of the other films that is tied for fourth first. Oh, man. Man, Johnny keeps taking my answers. He's a real answer thief. Yeah, Miller's Crossing is like, I always toy with calling that one my favorite.

I would ask you all what your favorites are, but I don't want anybody to reveal anything else at this point. But let's recap quickly. Sam has 15 points. Renan has 14 and Johnny has 17. Going into the third round, I sure you all can each name it at least one more. movie, but the question is, can you get one? Like that third one tied for number four would be sweet. Sam?

Oh, boy. All right. I am going to say, uh, this was, they split up. This is just Joel. Yeah. Came out a couple years ago and everybody wet their pants over it. So I'm hoping it, it did as well on the tomato meter as well as the views I remember. And I'm going to say Joel Cohen's The Tragedy of Macbeth.

It's not a bad answer. No, it's not a bad answer because it did get some Oscar attention. I, of course, was out there crying about how much more I'd just enjoy one of the 18 other movies those two made together over black and white Shakespeare adaptation. There was some color. Was there? Yeah, there's splashes. Splashes because people get bloody. Something like that. If memory serves. Yeah.

Well, it served you a good one because it is the movie that's tied for number. Oh, Doug, you've geeked me on that one. I thought you're going to tell me it was number 18. No. It got very good reviews,

93%. Wow. Which is also the same amount percentage of Millers Crossing. and no country for old men. So I just don't see it in the company with those other two. But Rod Saban's is weird, so it's like anything that's kind of safe that doesn't have like one or two bad reviews

because it's like, because Macbeth is so safe. No, that's why, like, lately, lately I've been really screwed over to a certain extent by the latest horror movie because every horror movie that comes out lately, they're doing a pretty good job of not being terrible, but just being okay is getting them all these critics saying it's fine.

They're not saying I loved it, but they're giving it a positive review, so that puts it into the fresh area where all could have just thought it was okay. As long as you're safe, you have a better chance than if you take like a big swing and probably interesting. Absolutely, absolutely. But, you know, just the Coen brothers, like, they can back it up with excellent movies.

but also I imagine critics do go in a little biased in their favor. All right. So we're back to Renan and your third guess. And let me just do some quick math here. You can't catch up to Sam. What do you got? There's another one that's tied for fourth, right? Still?

No, we did the three at four. Oh, sure. I mean, you guys really are just knocking off all the top ones. Okay. It's pretty impressive. So five is next. All right. I'm sounding really dumb.

It's baby bread. I'm like, so five is after four, right? Well, it kind of is, but as we've already noted, there's ties in the list, so it fucks with the numbers. I got to go with, I got to go with Raisin-Aresota. I mean, why wouldn't you, right? Yeah. I mean, that's, I wrestle with that in Miller's Crossing. I kind of go back and forth between those two as being my personal.

favorite. But in this particular case, it is next in line, which puts it at number eight. Oh, not 91% on the tomatoes. Number eight. Oh, good. Number eight. And so that's worth three more points for you. But you couldn't, you couldn't catch up to Sam anyway. This is really coming down to what Johnny comes up with on this one. Right.

Johnny is 15, 22, Johnny gets five points or more, he will tire surpass Sam. And looking at the board, there's nothing with worth five points or more left on the board. Well, I guess I'm fucked then, Doug.

This is as we say, academic. It's like on Jeopardy when it's a runaway, and you just watch them play Final Jeopardy anyway. What's your third one? Just to show everybody that you know what would be next on the list of Colin Brothers movies. It's not going to be Honeydon. I'll tell you that.

I'm going to... Got one last jab at Honeydoubt. I love it. I'm actually going to go with the Big Lobowski. You know, with the 79% of the critics, it did not fall in the top 10. They didn't understand. Wow. Yeah, they didn't get it.

No, it feels like part of the problem, I think, is like the Cohen brothers had so many, you know, like certifiable classics in a row. And Lubowski kind of felt like, well, now they're fucking with us. Like, it is a sillier movie than the few that were preceded it, I think. But I love it. I, you know, I think it's very rewatchable just because there's just so many fun character actors and weird interactions. Greatest comedy of all time. I think Fargo and Bilbaugh is might be the two great, the greatest like double punch for movies.

It is pretty amazing that they did both of those and all these other ones that I will share after Sam tells us who he would like me to call a shithead at the end of the show. Oh, Rex Reed. Oh, no. And then what would you like to plug, Sam? Oh, well, Doug, you know I'm always on cameo. And right now that's that's the best place for people to come find me. Unless, of course, you're going to be in a Kansas City area. Oh, big slick.

A couple weekends. Big Slick is coming up. So if you're in Kansas City or the surrounding areas and want to come out to Big Slick, we've got shows on Friday night and Saturday night. Yeah, just wherever you see Sam, like, just yell out from your seat in the crowd, Douglas movies. Douglas movies sent me and I'll come find you and I'll give you money. You want to be yelling that out during a presentation.

Well, not like during a sad, thing, but if there's a happy moment, there's a pause. Okay. You can get it out loud enough. I'll come find you. All right. Be sure to come out and see Sam. It's a sad thing in Kansas City. There you go. Great plug. We'll do the rest of our plugs after I tell everybody this exciting information, which is how the other films in their catalog fared. coming in after raising Arizona with a solid 90%

Barton Fink Oh wow Yeah followed with 89% For a serious man And then also an 89% Was the ballot of Buster Scruggs Wow okay

Yeah that's easy one to forget And then after that, it was Hail Caesar, then the man who wasn't there. What about the man with two brains? How high up does that? That was not a Cohen Brothers movie. Are you sure? I'm very sure. I could have been.

Okay, just checking. And then Big Lebowski and O'Brother were for Arthau, and burn after reading and oh what's his name one of the brothers made a documentary about jerry lee lewis called trouble in mind that uh that came in at 74 but just above that was entitled to cruelty with 76 percent and here's where it gets really interesting to me drive away dolls managed to score higher than several the movies you know a few of the movies they made together oh only two of them. So, or three of them.

Two, I take it back. Driveway dolls got 64%. Then Hudson Her proxy got 62%. That's the one that a lot of people bring up as a favorite. It was just recommended on this show very recently by somebody. So it's got its fans. And then the one that I kind of agree is like, I didn't like it at all was the lady killers.

Oh, yeah. But that still got 54% off the, of, you know, Cohen Brothers steam, you know. 54 is not bad for that movie. And then the aforementioned, Honey Don't, is their worst reviewed. Oh, wow. At 45% though, that's a pretty good record. It's a pretty good shitty movie.

Maybe they should rename it, Honey, Maybe. Exactly, exactly. Johnny Taylor, Jr., what would you like to plug? So I will be headlining the battery in San Francisco this Friday. this Friday night. So if you're in the city, come see me, kick an hour out. And also my show,

Killing Time, with my fabulous, hilarious girlfriend, Holly James at the Sacramento Punch Line, June 7th. So come out. Nice. Renaud Hursberg, what do you got coming up?

I will be running my new hour in Astoria, New York, where I live. Oh, not Oregon? Not going far. June 6th, you can get tickets at Grove 34.com. And also, I have a movie I just came out on, I put out a horror or a thriller, a psychological thriller, short film called Memory Room.

And you can watch that on YouTube right now. So give it a watch. And yeah, it's called Memory Room. I'll definitely check that out if I could, you know, if I don't forget. Yeah. Just remember the place I could go and sit to remind myself. to watch Memory Room. I'm going to be at the Devere Comedy Underground this weekend, Friday and Saturday,

and we're doing a Douglas movies taping Saturday afternoon. Benson Movie Interruption is back at Dynasty Typewriter in L.A. on Tuesday, June 2nd. And I'll be at the Funny Bone in St. Louis doing stand-up June 18th through 20. All my dates and deeds are at Douglasmovies.com. Thank you once again to our winner, Sam, and our... uh non winners renan and johnny no we're all winners okay as always rex treat is a shithead now it's time for doug to watch another talkie eyes of gold is viewing prowess makes him cocky

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