Doug Loves Movies - Rod Lurie, Samm Levine and Clarke Wolfe guest

Episode Date: October 3, 2017

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Hey, hey, hey, everybody. My name is Doug, and I love movies. This is Doug Loves Movies. That was the most choir-like. Almost like you were being forced to sing it. And I thank you for that. Because it always makes me feel good. Let's get

my script out. Let's do this for reals, you guys. Coming to you from the cricket room at Meltdown Comics in Los Angeles! Los Angeles! It's Monday, October 2nd, 2017.

One month from Ragnarok. But right now, I want to see some name tags. We got a couple of front row name tags. We got Point Brock. Brock is your first name? Yes. Wow. That's an intense name, dude.

Why didn't you go with The Brock? Instead of Point Brock. Would have been a little easier. It was a recycled Christmas card. You made a Christmas card of Point Brock? It said Merry Christmas. And it said Merry Christmas instead of 100% pure adrenaline?

No, it's actually Merry Christmas, 100% pure adrenaline. What? Okay. I'm done with you. I'm tired of talking to you. We've got not another team. Jamie?

I get it. Holy shit, are there only three name tags? Are the three of you going to be played for tonight? What does that say? Derek's Men Days of Future Dabs. Okay. I appreciate the weed thing. I don't think any of my guests do, but we'll find out soon enough. What were you holding up over there? You have the stroke shirt on that Shia LaBeouf wears in the first Transformers, and that's why I hate you.

It's not exactly the same shirt, but it's similar. What do you bring? What did you bring? I said, hello, my name is Chess Rockwell. Hello, my name is a tiny little card that says, hello, my name is Chess Rockwell. Hello, my name... It's a tiny little card that says, hello, my name is Chess Rockwell, which is from Boogie Nights.

That's correct. What's your real name? Michael. Michael, okay. This guy's like, fuck puns. I'm just gonna go rogue on this shit. You should have made something that said, Mike, rogue Mike.

I don't know. I'm just trying to get through today. Hope you guys are doing good. And good luck to the four of you. I get it. It's not a great day for making name tags. Doug plugs. Saturday, Doug Loves Movies is back

at the location of Cheeseburger Gate, Helium Comedy Club in St. Louis at 420 Gas. Sunday, Doug Loves Movies is at the LA Pie Fest here in Los Angeles at the Biltmore Hotel at... Yeah, you gonna go? Yeah. Okay. I hope so after that

enthusiastic, woo! You going? No, I'm busy. That's gonna be at LA Podfest at 6pm. I think Never Not Funny is before us and then Todd Glass after us and we scheduled it

so that everybody could see all of it. So hopefully... Hopefully it'll work out. We're back here at Nerd Melt next Monday and then Kansas City, Atlanta, Raleigh, Phoenix, New Orleans, and more. Yeah, the classic and more. Get all of my road deets at douglosmovies.com.

That's douglosmovies.com. Yeah! I almost cut off the yeah because I felt a lack of enthusiasm. I didn't think the yeah was going to come hard, but it came. It came and it was good. Shit.

Like, I haven't done this show enough that I don't need this piece of paper. But I do. So there it is. Here's the prize bag. It's a lovely Embassy Suitets by Hilton bag. Because I like to reuse these things.

From when I was just in Austin, Texas we got a lovely little Tito's vodka cup. Yeah, commemorative. I don't know what it commemorates other than Tito's vodka. A Doug Loves Movies T-shirt.

A blue card from Getting Doug with High. A copy of my CD promotional tool. The Perler Beads Doug Benson face that Alex Diamond made in Austin, Texas. Yeah, that's a quality item. Austin, Texas. Yeah, that's a quality item. Also, I got, at Fantastic Fest, I got a button for a motion picture called Haunters, The Art of the Scare,

which I did not see, but seems like a cool movie that people should look out for because it's all about people that make their own haunted houses for people, but it's the most fucked up ones. Like there's one where they

won't let people leave. Yeah, it's more like an escape house or something. But yeah, it really sounds like a cool, messed up movie. So check it out whenever that's out and about. And one of these colorful, Christmassy Peacemaker pipes. That's all the stuff I brought.

Plus, we're going to get stuff from our three terrific guests. Please give a big Womorkum for Clark Wolf, Rod Lurie, and Sam the Ma'am Levine, a.k.a. Lil' Logan. Little Logan is here. That'll turn anybody's frown upside down. Hi. Holy shit. All right, let's meet them individually, starting with the lady in the middle.

Right? Yeah. I like to keep it, you know. Not every time. It's a little sexist. It's sexist to introduce the woman first? Well, because it's the woman, yeah. Okay. All right, let's start with you then, asshole.

Oh, no. I'm like a, I identify as a woman, though. Clark Wolf is here, everybody. Hello, everyone. Hi, guys. Thank you for having me, Doug. I'm so happy to be here. I love your Twitter, the way it just breaks it down. Actress? Yes.

Confirmed. Host? Indeed. What does that mean? You have parties at your house sometimes? Yep. And I work at Chili's. Oh, okay. And then, nerd. That's how you sum yourself up with those three words. Actress, host, nerd. I at Chili's. Oh, okay. And then nerd. That's how you sum yourself up with those three words.

Actress, host, nerd. I think that's mostly it. Yeah. Sadly. I think that's terrific. And for Halloween, you made your Twitter name into a, because we all have to change our Twitter names to scary names for the month of Halloween. You went with Clark Swear Wolves.

So, yes. Which, is there anything scarier than a wolf that's going to swear at you? According to what we do in the shadows, there is not. I wanted it, so I have a confession to make. I shouldn't tell you this, but last year I was also Clark Swearwolves, and I

wanted to be an American Clark Wolf in London, but there's not enough characters, so I had to go back to Swearwolves. There's plenty of characters in that movie. I'll see myself out. Yeah, jokes. Jokes, jokes, jokes. Yeah, it's not very Halloween, but I just thought of Clark of the Covenant. Ooh, I like that.

That's not a terrible one. That's for Passover. Yeah, okay. I went with for the whole month of October, my name is Bug Tension. I actually really liked that one. Which I don't, you know, I don't know what that means, but it sounds scary.

You know, you learn how to do these from years and years of the Halloween episodes of The Simpsons. Just pick the scariest words you possibly can that are puns with your name. But thank you for being here, Clark. Thank you for having me, Doug. Also joining us and anxious to be introduced, Rod Lurie is here, everybody!

Hey! So excited to have you here because not only are you the director of many motion pictures, big ones with famous people in them and shit. It's true. Yeah. But you also are the director of a motion picture that has come up on this show as potentially the best movie I've never seen. That could be any one of them. It could. It could. But I've seen a lot of them. I've seen seen. That could be any one of them. It could.

It could, but I've seen a lot of them. I've seen most of them, but the one that I still haven't seen is Deterrence. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Anybody here see anybody? Yeah, people clapped. I watched it on Sam's recommendation. There you go. And starring our friend Kevin Pollack.

Who isn't here. Who I tried to get here tonight, and then it didn't work out. Eh. Yeah. Clark's way prettier. It's fine. Yeah, you got me instead. Sorry, guys.

Yeah, we went with a more beautiful panelist than Kevin Pollack. None of us would get a word in if he was here. You think? Oh, no way. He's not that bad. He's a good participant. Okay. Yeah. Has he done your think? Oh, no way. He's not that bad. He's a good participant. Okay. Has he done your show? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he's done it a bunch of times.

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's how it all came together. Okay. Yeah, we were all very excited. I stand corrected. Kind of. But let's introduce him because he's part of the puzzle. My friend that does the show frequently was the one that offered up, I can get Rod Lurie for you,

and we can get Kevin Pollak. It's not a big gap. And we can do... The only... I mean, I'm glad that you started this after Monday Night Football. That's the most important thing. By the way, I covered in the last second of the game. The last second.

With a fumble recovery. Wait, who played tonight? The Chiefs? The Chiefs and the Skins. And they should have taken a knee. That sounds so racist. You just call them the Skins? Well, I'm being politically correct. Right? Doesn't matter what color their skin is.

They just got skin. That's right. I like it. Well, I'm happy that you covered the spread, which sounds dirty. But yeah, so Kevin couldn't make it tonight, but he is the star of this movie, Deterrence, and he's also very good friends with a very popular guest on the show, and that is Mr. Sam Levine.

Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Doug. I don't know if you didn't bring me Kevin Pollak the first time around, but you definitely brought me Leonard Maltin. I definitely brought you Leonard Maltin. You brought Leonard Maltin into my life.

I did. Which is very nice. My pleasure. And I'm so glad. And every time I hear him on the show, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. It's great, and you deserve all the credit.

Thanks, pal. Leonard Maltin has done this show? Many times. He's been on a bunch of times. We used to have a game called the Leonard Maltin game, and he was fucking shitty at it. Which is super fun, and you'll find out what I mean by that when we play some of the games tonight.

Sam, what's going on? What have you been up to? I've been working on a streaming series I've decided Doug that with every next project

I do I want to figure out a way to make it find a smaller audience yes people will appreciate you more if they have less access

yes thank you ultimately I'd like to just produce movies and shows that my parents can watch, and that's it. And then I'll be fine. You're the Pablo Picasso of digital content. Thank you.

Only to be found after your untimely death. So you're just leaving out, you're just not going to tell us about this project at all. Oh, it's two different things. I did a segment for a show called The Fifth Quarter, which is on Verizon's Go90 platform. Okay, what else?

What's the other thing? The other thing is a pilot for YouTube Red that I actually had to sign an NDA and I'm not at liberty to discuss. What? What? It's that hot of a project that you can't even talk about it?

I don't think so, but I still had to sign the thing. Wow. Believe me, it's... Are you sure you were just in a sex dungeon or something? Oh, I was definitely in a sex dungeon, but it was in Marina Del Rey, so, you know,

one of them classy YouTube sex dungeons. I'll only sign an NDA. Ones that I'm very excited about. You know at the gas station, sometimes they have the little videos while you're pumping your gas? That's what my next show is going to be on. Oh wow! Oh yeah, just keep coming back to that

same gas station and watch a few more minutes of a Rod Lurie classic. Yeah, that's right. Clark and I are available. I love it. Yeah, oh yeah. If you're looking for actors. Very available.

Always looking for actors. Okay, great. All right. I've got a prize bag. Each of you brought some, I assume, amazing stuff. Who should I start with, Sam? Me, me. Who do you think brought the best stuff? I have the crappiest stuff. Okay, so we I start with, Sam? Me, me.

I have the crappiest stuff. Who do you think brought the best stuff? I have the crappiest stuff. Start with me. Okay, so we'll start with you. Okay. So I've been hanging out with the good people at MLB.com recently,

because they're awesome. And so my pal over there, Melissa Wester, gave me some MLB.com swag. So if you're like, if somebody invites you to a baseball game, and you're like, I'm not a baseball fan. Be like, I've got the perfect hat.

I don't have to pick a team. This just says, I know I'm at a baseball game. So I've got a hat that says MLB.com. Yeah, it just says you like the internet. And a nice red small shirt with just the Major League Baseball logo on it. So there you go. Very neutral. Very neutral. And then I brought

everyone's favorite film starring John Cusack, Billy Crystal, and Julia Roberts, America's Sweethearts. On DVD. I love that movie. Do people really like that movie? I have no idea. It's not good, right? No, I don't

think it's pretty. I've never seen it, actually. How could Billy Crystal and Julia Roberts be sweethearts? Well, I don't... In what world? That's not how that happens. John Cusack and Julia are the sweethearts. Yeah.

Billy's stuck with Catherine Zeta-Jones. Oh, no. Too bad for Billy. Although they're very far apart. Yeah, I don't know what's going on in this movie. Yeah, it's a very strange post-war. That is a movie where there is a big scene at a press junket, right,

where they got a bunch of journalists interviewing them because they're playing actors, and they use the actual journalists that actually interviewed them and review them in the movie. And so all those critics are in the movie and they still shit on it. You gotta be really a piece of shit movie. I'm in this, but it's garbage.

Yeah. I don't think Leonard gave the greatest review to Gremlins 2. Gremlins, just about to say, he did not review Gremlins 2 favorably and that is the only film he's in. Were you reviewing films

when this came out? No. I stopped reviewing films in 99. Do you remember what the last movie was that you wrote about as a film critic?

That I wrote about? Detroit Rock City. You know what? I think it came out that year. I think it might have been Braveheart Which I gave a really good review to

You did? Yeah You like that? Not only did I give it a good review It was such a good review It had to be more of a story Behind it than that But Mel Gibson thanked me

When he won the best directing Oscar No Yes Well here's what happened On stage at the Oscars Yes He thanked you? Yes

By first and last name? Yes. He thanked you? Yes. By first and last name? Yes. Just because you gave it a good review? No. Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened. So Mel and I were at one of the Nuremberg rallies together.

Wow. I tried. Okay. That joke will play better for the listeners, I promise. He came on my, I had a radio show on KABC.

I was a film critic there. And he comes on my show and he says to me, What the fuck? I'm so mad. She's Jewish, it's fine. He says to me,

I say to Mel, so this is a great film. Braveheart's a great film. And I said to him, you're going to win the Oscar. We both know that. And I'm luring him in because he says, no, I'm not going to win the Oscar. Now, this was in May of, I think, of 95. And I said, no, you're absolutely going to win it.

I'll make you a bet. It's a very simple bet. I said, if you do not win, I will devote an hour to Mel Gibson and how he got screwed. And if you do win, you got to thank me. And I did this with Martin Landau the year before. And I did it two years later with James Cameron or three years later. They all won the Oscar and they all thanked me. It was.

That's amazing. That's amazing. But I'll tell you I had two people I got two people who screwed me who didn't come through What? One was Anthony Minghella you know

may he rest in peace and the other was Billy Bob Thornton who should have thanked me because I also helped get Sling Blade on the map with my with my pushing people

to go see it in LA on the radio I said tonight this Saturday night it's leaving its theater in Santa Monica. I want everybody there. And everybody went there. And they kept it another week,

and then another week, and then another week. And he didn't thank me. But we've since become friends, and next time he wins, he'll thank me. We'll see. Yeah, he'll probably win again. He's pretty good.

I mean, forgive me for asking, but did you have that same agreement with all the other nominees? Because it seemed like you kind of stacked the deck there. You know what? No, I did not. You know what?

The only time that I ever lost that bet was Danny Elfman. I think it was Good Will Hunting. It may have been the movie. Did he score that? Probably. Yeah. Why not?

Yeah, why not? I love his track. I think of Elliot Smith when I think of Good Will Hunting. Oh, you don't want to... No, he did a song. Right, right. He did a song.

Elliot Smith is all over the soundtrack. Yeah. But maybe Danny Elfman did the rest of it. Yeah. And he didn't win and therefore didn't thank you. And I did do

when Danny Elfman got screwed out. Wow. And that was very low ratings. And I did do a Danny Elfman Got Screwed Out. Wow. And that was very low ratings. Today we're going to devote an hour to Danny Elfman. So everyone turned over to conservative talk radio.

Let's start with the scene where Rodney Dangerfield hires Oingo Boingo to play at his son's party. Something like that. Great Oingo Boingo moments. All right, so Clark, what do you got for the old bag? Well, so it's October, and I'm a big horror fan. I love horror movies, yeah. And so this is my most wonderful time of the year. So to start, I brought some Blu-rays.

So first of all, there is this great documentary trilogy called The Purge. And so... See what she did there? Doesn't love docs. Doesn't do it. So I have The Purge movies on DVD or Blu-ray. And then I have this Grindhouse movie called I Drink Docs. Yes, it does a job. So I have the Purge movies on DVD or Blu-ray. And then I have this Grindhouse movie called I Drink Your Blood. And it also, yeah, and it comes with a syringe.

Oh, okay. For easy blood drinking. Flavor injector. Yes, indeed. And also, okay, so this isn't Blu-ray. It's just DVD. I'm sorry, nerds. But this is all of the classic Universal monsters in a box

And then finally So every year here in LA like new Bev does all-night Horrathon and I can't go this year But I went last year and I actually won this a nightmare on Elm Street three Dream warriors Freddy Krueger action figure. And so that, I've had it for a year and now it's time

to pay it forward. So it's in my Simpsons bag. So that's, this is for you. This is for you guys. That's pretty sweet. Wow. Can you tell I want

to be asked back? Please have me back, Doug. Please. You know Elm Street's just a couple blocks from here, right? I sure do. Oh, and can I

can I say one more thing about the horror stuff I don't want to embarrass them but David Sandberg and Lada I know you guys I recognized you guys

in the thing Annabelle Creation and Lights Out director and co-star Lada I'm a big fan I've interviewed you guys

before but I saw you guys out there and I was like nerds I was so was like, nerds. I was so excited. Like, me, nerd. Anyway, hi. He comes to the show a bunch,

so I gotta have him on sometime. Yes, and bring the Annabelle doll back. That's only fair. Yeah, probably the third or fourth biggest grossing movie of the summer. I'd imagine. I don't have the numbers handy. But it did pretty well

for a fucking creepy doll movie. Good for you. All right, Rod. Tell us about it. I'm pretty excited about what you brought. I don't know you should be, but a long time ago, when I was a journalist, investigative journalist,

I wrote a book called Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It was published by Random House, and nobody bought it. So I've got like 500 of these in my house. You've got every copy? Not only that, but I autographed it to myself, and so I have a bunch of those. So I'm going to give you one of those. That's awesome.

It's a good book. I'm glad you think so. Nobody read it. I was interviewed by Barbara Walters, though, about it on Good Morning America. And still nobody read it. What was her most penetrating question? God, it was really... You know what happened?

Because also, it's just funny hearing her say murder. That was... Just saying the name of your book is hard for her. Dude, that was such an interesting day because I showed up at Good Morning America and I was going to go on like an 8.30 hour and OJ, this is back in 95, pulled some

bullshit and they say we're sorry and they literally said the following sentence to me, you got OJ'd. Whoa. Meaning. You got juiced out man. We gotta. So they said that's the bad news so like Charlie Gibson's not gonna interview

you but we'll interview you for tape later. But Barbara Walters is going to do it. So I said, okay, that's great. That's a good deal. Yeah, and then they aired it at 8.30 in the morning on July the 4th, like two months later. So it was like, it was... It's not a big viewership day for GMA.

No, it was bad. The other thing I have is, at my home, I collect classic movie scripts, but like the, before the final draft is written. So like you've got like a draft that's three or four iterations before it actually goes to Cameron.

You see what they were thinking about. So I got a really interesting one here. So if there are any real cineasts in here, this will be really cool for you. You'll have a great time with this. This is the original Dirty Harry, written by Terrence Malick. Wow.

And it is a trip to read, along with John Milius. It's different. It's different. Than what they made. At the end of this one, he stabs the guy to death instead of shoots him. Spoiler alert.

How many knives do you think I'm holding? Do you feel lucky, punk? You see? That's not in there. Anyway, there you go. That's awesome. Thank you so much for that. So if you're not really into film,

somebody here will be, so give it to them. But it's pretty cool. We've got a whole bunch of those. I love it. You've got more than one copy of this, right? No, that's my only copy. Wow. No. The coffee machine's at Kinko's my only copy. Wow. No. What are you talking about?

The coffee machine's at Kinko's. Come on. You spent $4 to make a copy. Or something like that. I've never been interviewed by anyone who's stoned before. This is so cruel. Oh, you think Barbara Walters wasn't stoned? She was so drunk.

But it's drunk questions are different than stoned questions. That's very true. But that's why she rolls those R's. I'll give you a little beach. All those years.

I had a few drinks tonight. I'm ready for all of it. All of that is in the prize bag. So it's a very good one tonight. And there's not a lot... You'll see in a little bit, but there's not a lot of options for you guys,

so you're going to have to fight over who you're going to play for. But I'd like to ask a couple of questions before we get into the game portion of the show. And Sam knows these questions are coming, so we'll start with him. All right. Starting with, last motion picture you saw.

I've been on a movie-watching binge lately, and the very last one I saw is Alien 3. Whoa. Yeah. What happened there to make that be a part of your life? I had never seen it. I'd seen Alien and Aliens many times, but for some reason I've just never watched the third one.

And I've already seen Alien Resurrection, which I wish I could unsee, but I just never saw Alien 3. Do you like 3 better than Resurrection? Yes, actually. Okay. I mean, 3's got plenty of problems, but... It's David Fincher.

Yeah, it's David Fincher. You can't not see a David Fincher film. That's exactly right. I'm a completist. I don't know if David Fincher doesn't want you to see that movie. I'm a completist. I enjoyed seeing Charles Dance in a role where he was not a total scumbag.

Between the Golden Child and Last Action Hero, that's the only Charles Dance I think I've ever seen. I'm like, oh, he's a decent guy. I thought he was a monster. We got some Ron Perlman in there. Yep. He's good. He's always good. One of the writers there putting up Christmas lights. Wait a monster. We got some Ron Perlman in there. Yep. He's good. He's always good. One of the writers there putting up Christmas lights. Wait a minute.

Oh, wait. Which one are we talking about now? This is Alien 3. She's not in that one. She's Resurrection. Ron Perlman's in Resurrection. My wife and I just... My wife! It's my favorite thing.

My wife is right there. It's so dumb. It's my favorite thing my wife was right there it's my favorite she was a very beautiful woman right there she and I were just with Ron Perlman at a watching the

McGregor fight with Mayweather yeah and he was who was he for he was he was from McGregor

right yeah yeah that's a fool sort of white guy. Yeah, right. Wow. But that's cool. He seems like a great guy.

Do you think you can get him to come on the show? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I mean, you know, I could ask you for a reference in your Oscar speech, but I'll settle for get me Ron Perlman. One is much easier than the other, I promise.

One is never going to happen. Ron Perlman was my first Hollywood crush. I grew up watching Beauty and the Beast. Oh, I thought you were going to say Quest for Fire. No, I was all Beauty and the Beast. And I called him Lion Man. My mother loves to tell that story.

But I, yeah, we had to watch him every night or every week. Yeah. Yep. Love you, Ron Perlman.

That I think, that I think I can make happen. Yeah. You'll pass that along. Ron Perlman and my mom? You and Ron Perlman I think I can make happen.

I think you'd be very happy with that. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I imagine his pillow talk involves a lot of Hellboy discussion. see. I imagine his pillow talk involves a lot of Hellboy discussion.

Yeah. I know it's a good hand with the... I hope Sons of Anarchy doesn't come up. Clark, what is your most recent movie-going experience? My most recent movie I saw was... I re-watched Pumpkinhead, which, you know, it's Halloween season now. Right, you're digging in deep. It's only day two, but, you know, it's Halloween season now. Right, you're digging in deep.

It's only day two. I know. It's Halloween year-round in here. But it's on Amazon Prime, and I actually didn't grow up, like a lot of people have nostalgia for that movie, but I only saw it

for the first time a handful of years ago, and I re-watched it. You said it right the first time. I have nostalgia for that movie. Nostalgia for Pumpkinhead. Are you not a fan? Not on board?

Lance Henriksen? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think I was almost an extra in that. Really? Yeah, yeah. Or, yeah, I think so. Because there are a few extras in that movie.

I think I showed up and then they didn't use me or something. No. Yeah, it feels like that happened. Okay. I'll take your word for it. But no, it's so good and it's just it's a drag that Stan Winston didn't make more features you know it's like it sucks because I think for a monster movie and a and a folk tale and like a fairy tale it's really it holds up I think and I love the witch and I love the creature

so yeah pumpkin head is streaming so watch it if you haven't yes somebody just asked me on Twitter, hey, what are some horror movies I haven't seen that I should watch this month? I'm going to do a marathon or whatever. I'm like, I don't know what horror movies you've seen. So that's good. Maybe he hasn't seen Pumpkinhead and he's listening to this. There you go. That's for you, friend.

So check out Pumpkinhead. Indeed. Ringing endorsement. I don't know about the sci-fi sequels though. I hear that that's a mixed bag. Really? Yeah, they made a bunch of TV movie sequels, but I've never seen them. I saw a movie at Fantastic Fest

that Lance Henriksen shows up in. I saw it, too, because I was there, too. Mom and Dad. Did you like it? I liked it. It's Nicholas Cage doing mean, it's Nicolas Cage doing his Nicolas Cage thing, which is hilarious. And Selma Blair, who's always been kind of a loose cannon

in my mind, they play mom and dad. And the premise of the movie is just suddenly one day, for no reason, there's no reason for this to happen, but it does. for no reason, there's no reason for this to happen, but it does. Every mom and dad suddenly wants to kill their own children.

It's as simple as that. Directed by the man... That is the fucking premise of the movie. Who brought you Crank. Parents just start killing their own kids. Yeah, in the style of Crank. So it's very frenetic and... It's a wishful thinking movie.

That pool table scene with nick cage is pretty excellent yeah nick cage has a lot of funny moments because he's great because he's like you know he's sort of normal for the first part of the movie and then as soon as you know he wants to kill his own children then he's just out of control and it's uh you just described nick cage in real life It's really fun It's a perfect midnight movie I saw it Did you see it at midnight?

No That's past my bedtime Fair enough Well we are in central time Yeah I saw it in the afternoon but I enjoyed it a great deal Yes I agree

Rod Do you have a latest movie experience? I went to see Mother Mother yeah you gotta yell it well cause it's got an exclamation point

well that's what you see lowercase I went to it thinking it was gonna be a musical are you serious because it has an exclamation point like like Mamma Mia

not like that Oliver hello Dolly, Oklahoma. And company. Yeah. Yeah, the exclamation point really does signal musical. And you know what? Dream Girls.

That's what we should do. No exclamation point. We should make a musical of Mother. That movie would be so much better if it was a musical. By the way, I want to tell you something. Talk about midnight movies in 10 years. That's going to be playing like Rocky Horror Picture Show. I think I could handle the murdering of a baby

if it was a musical number. Spoiler alert. You don't have to worry about spoilers with Mother. No one is going to go. Everyone has gotten the message. The people who are going to see it have seen Mother. Hold on. That's for sure.

This is the only movie that ever got an F from the cinema score that they're sending Academy Award screeners out for. Yeah. No, because they know

they can, you know, Jennifer Lawrence could maybe squeak in there. But I think it's a really good year for lead actresses so I don't think it's going to happen. I think Michelle Pfeiffer.

It's mostly just her wandering around a mansion going, what's happening? But Michelle Pfeiffer I think think, could sneak in for supporting. Are they re-releasing Batman Returns? No. Oh. What?

What? She deserved an Academy Award for Batman Returns. She did. She was great in that. Jennifer Lawrence was great in Batman Returns. You said Michelle Pfeiffer. No, I'm kidding. Aw.

Jennifer Lawrence screams, hey, in that movie. Like, she sees somebody. Hey, hey, hey. The entire. Over and over again. Have you ever seen Mother Here? Anybody? Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about, right, in that movie. Like, she sees somebody, hey, hey, hey. The entire, have you ever seen Mother Here? Anybody? Yeah. Yeah, we got some true movie nerds here. But did you notice a lot of people didn't raise their hand?

Because they just got the word F from CinemaScore. That's, opening night audience goes, uh-uh. And those are the people that were most excited to see it well they paramount marketed this as a horror film they did and so people said some people think it's a comedy i don't i couldn't find any is it possible this could be like a pink flamingos situation that's what i'm saying we're like 20 years from now people look back at it completely differently than they did i'm not sure that, listen, those critics like Rex Reed who say it's the worst film of the century, he doesn't know what a bad movie is. Except for that one he's in, Myra Breckenridge.

But even that one, what a bad movie is to me is a movie that doesn't care. It's just being made just to get your money. I saw a couple of trailers this weekend for some of the big action or superhero movies, and they're just grinding them out and sucking you in, and that's a bad movie. That's a lazy movie. One thing Mother is Not is lazy. That movie is trying to, at least trying to be something, and whether, that guy's a genius, whether or not he succeeds is something else, but nobody ever considered a genius who was not once thought to be crazy.

So, you know, to me, it's like a David Lynch film without the logic. Whoa. A ringing endorsement. I thought you were going to say without the pauses. You know what? Without the slow parts. Because Mother does...

Shit's happening the whole time. Dude, that's excellent. I'm going to steal that, man. Yeah, I'm going to tweet that out, if you don't mind. But I'm going to take it as my own. I just wish David Lynch would shut up and be like,

let's eat this baby. A David Lynch film without the pauses. That's exactly what it is. Very good. You should be a film critic. Oh, you know. I dabble. Mostly the first syllable.

Can you imagine if they put all the pauses from a David Lynch movie and a Todd Salon's movie in the same movie? Oh, no. Four lines of dialogue

and credits. Pause the movie. Not only that, but it would be a very long film. Pause! With an exclamation point. Not about cats and credits. Pause the movie. Not only that, but it would be a very long film. Pause! With an exclamation point. P-A-W-S.

Not about cats and dogs. The musical. All right, here's the next question. Gets tougher at this point. We've only got three minutes

to get to the bottom of this before moving on. Because I run a tight ship. He's really speeding along here, you see? What? Sam, what is the best movie

that I have never seen? I'm sure you've seen this, but I'll take a chance anyway. Freejack? What? I've seen it and it wasn't good. I know, I know But it's good bad

It's bad good What, like Emilio Estevez and And Mick Jagger And Rene Russo and Mick Jagger And Jonathan Banks Okay, yeah, you're right I love it Alright

You really got me with Jonathan Banks Because ever since Better Call Saul Everything retroactively that he's in is amazing That's right That's exactly right. Like Wiseguy, that series, Wiseguy. Oh, yeah, Wiseguy. Yeah, right.

Good stuff. Good stuff. All right, Sam. I know. I just wanted to talk about it for a second. You took a swing. Any chance I can bring up Free Jack, I will. Clark.

All right. Two minutes. Have you seen Lee Daniels' The Paperboy? Clark alright two minutes have you seen Lee Daniels the paper boy now first of all you can't

when talking great films you can't start the sentence with Lee Daniels oh that's brutal but have you seen it

yeah and you're not a fan not I wouldn't call it the best movie I haven't seen I'd call it one of the more fucked up movies

I have seen. I dig this movie. That movie's crazy. It is cray cray. It's mother exclamation point crazy. Except, except stuff happens in it.

It's not boring AF. I saw two, I saw that movie two weeks ago. The Paperboy? Yeah. What? Why are you so late

to the Paperboy train? Because I was meeting with one of the performers for the film. Ooh, which one? David Oyelowo? I cannot say. Matthew McConaughey?

Cannot say. Cusack? Was it Cusack? John Cusack? Zac Efron? Macy Gray? You can waterboard me and I'm not going to tell you.

I love the Paperboy. If you haven't seen it, give it a whirl. Nicole Kidman, real fast, this is my contribution. Did you see Killing of the Sacred Deer at Fantastic Fest? I did not Paperboy. If you haven't seen it, give it a whirl. Nicole Kidman, real fast, this is my contribution. Did you see Killing of the Sacred Deer at Fantastic Fest? I did not.

Whoa. That's a movie. All right, well, she's in it. She is, everybody thinks Nicole Kidman is this stuffy, icy movie star. I think she is one of the most brave, awesome, weird actresses working. Oh, yeah, she takes some chances. She rules. Yeah, Paperboy is a very weird movie

for Nicole Kidman there's a sex scene in this movie where nobody touches it's her and John Cusack do you know which one I'm talking about

how could you not and I was like girl you have an Oscar like and you are doing this this is amazing it is fucked up y'all that's not

that's not brave you know what's brave wearing a fake nose that. You know what's brave? Wearing a fake nose. That's brave. That's brave. Yeah, get yourself an Oscar that way, folks. Pay attention.

All right, well, I'm going to bat for the paper boy. All right, yeah, you guys check it out, and then let me know how much you hated it. This is not for everyone. Give all your feedback to me. Don't bother Clark's werewolves on Twitter. That's right. What do you got for us, Rod? I've been thinking about this as

YouTube because I'm not as prepared as you guys, but I think I have one. In fact, it's playing at the Arrow coming up and that's a movie called Come and See. Have you ever heard of this film? No. So when I a few years ago. I mean, I'm obviously attracted to watching it just from the title.

I like to be told what to do. You see. You see that. And in what order? No, that would be, yeah, that would be See and Come. So I went to do Ebert Fest some years ago. The Ebert Festival in Chicago or Champaign. I think it was the second to last year that Roger was doing it.

And I asked him a question. I said to him, what is a classic film that you have never seen? So he wrote it down for me because he couldn't speak. And it was The Sound of Music. He's never seen The Sound of Music. Good for him. Good for him. Good for him. Fuck that movie. Exclamation point.

But then he asked me, tell me a movie that I haven't seen and I said, come and see. It's a movie about World War II. It's a Russian film. I think it may be the best movie ever made. Has anybody seen Come and See here? Hunter, my son. The middle 45 minutes may be the best filmmaking

in the history of the art. And so he said, I'll see it. And he saw it, and I think it was the last film he wrote about on his, the great film series that he wrote. It is just extraordinary. So Roger agreed with you? He loved it? He thought it was one of the greatest films he'd ever seen.

And it was one of the last films he ever saw. Hunter, when is it playing at the Arrow? Do you know? October 15th. Something like that. October 15th. At the Arrow. At Santa Monica.

Now, your listeners don't know what the Arrow is, but it's sort of a classic film theater. It's at the Walt Disney Theater in Santa Monica. And I'm going to go. It'll blow your mind. And I'm going to go. It'll blow your mind. Unless I'm busy that night. To me, it's a life-changing fantasy. Who's in it?

It's a Russian film. You wouldn't know anybody. Oh, just give me a try. Is anyone named Boris in it? Anyone named Alexander? No, Victor. Victor's, I think. Is it? Anyone named Alexander? No, Victor. Victor's, I think. Is it a famous

Russian filmmaker? Elliot Klimov, who was not that famous. But it's, and I think that was his last film. But it's, I remember watching it

and there's actually a moment in it that Tarantino stole for Inglourious Baster. So you'll have to see the movie. Oh, is it the moment where Sam Levine shows up? Yeah, it is. I've been

keeping, I'm in Come and See guys this whole time. Sam is a time traveler. It was a 1981 movie. I don't think so. Alright, Come and See. That's when your parents were virgins you know so long ago well you know

Rod since you're here and you've seen some you know some things that a lot of people haven't seen in your life yes let me run a couple by you that people on Twitter are telling me are great movies

I've never seen. A Korean movie called Three Iron? Never heard of it. Is it a golf movie? I would say yes, but I don't even think that irons have numbers

that low. Right? Isn't like an iron, like a nine iron? I don't know. Yeah. My Korean filmography is very weak.

Alright, well what about... Do you know this Japanese musical? No. No. Move on. Happiness of the Katakuris? People are fucking with you. You know that, right? You understand this. I think these are real. None of these are real. I mean, you know, they could have said to me, come and see from Russia.

And I'd be like, okay. That you should see. You say so. Anybody who has any love of film should see that movie. Do you know David Caruso, the actor? Yes. Yeah. He's in a movie that someone claims is great called Session 9.

Oh, come on. Yeah. That's good? Is there anyone in here that thinks it's not as good as everybody says? Am I the only one? You weren't into Session 9? Two hands. It's just, I just didn't get it.

I don't get the hype on that one. What hype? I'd never even heard of it. Exactly. And somebody had to add David Caruso to put it over the top for me. Like I wouldn't be into it enough if I didn't know David Caruso's in it. But I've always liked David Caruso's in it but I've always liked David Caruso as an actor

he's good in it I think he just made some bad decisions Jade yeah well he left NYPD Blue and then made like three flops in a row

and it's like okay thanks for coming by go back to TV and then he did Miami CSI or whatever yeah he did Miami CSI where his

greatest acting challenge was at what point in the scene is he going to take off his sunglasses? Alright. We did it. Cool. Turn the show off, Bert, and good luck with Sober October because it's time for me to say, let the games

begin! sober October because it's time for me to say let the games begin we have four dazzling name tags in the audience one of them even is retracted oh there you go he's back and then oh wait we got another guy jumping jumping into the fray what's that you're holding up Like a get out of jail free card? All right, of course Sam takes not another teen movie. Yeah. But Clark and Rod, you have to decide between the remaining name tags. And while you do that, we'll do this.

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of a website or domain. That's squarespace.com, offer code Doug. D-O-U-G. Back to the show. All right, we're back. That was an exciting process. Sam, of course, went with the Not Another Teen movie. Teen Jamie.

Not Another Teen Jamie. Yep. Yep. Yeah. You got your face on there? It's got my face on it, your face, Mark Wahlberg's face. Did you know that Sam was going to show up today? No, I just... This is a good guess. He's on from time to time.

Yep. All right. There you go. Clark went with... I got Derek's Men, like X-men. Yeah, Derek's men. Yep. Days, D-A-Z-E, of future dabs.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then I have a complimentary shithead on the back of a Conan ticket. Because this one didn't... Derek didn't have one. All right. Pass that shithead down to me. You can keep the rest of it.

Sam, is there one on the back of yours? There is. All right, pass that shithead down to me. You can keep the rest of it. Sam, is there one on the back of yours? There is. All right, good. Not that we're going to need that, but... Rod is playing for Point Brock. Yeah, because Brock sounds like Barack, which is my brother's name. It's also the president's name,

but it's my brother's name. Your brother's name is Barack? Not only that... His middle name is Hussein. It's crazy. And his last brother's name. Your brother's name is Barack? Not only that. His middle name is Hussein. It's crazy. And his last name is Obama. Here are the coincidences. Listen to this.

Oh, man. Is this like that Lincoln? Close. Lincoln Kennedy thing? Barack Obama was one year ahead of me in my high school in Punahawaii, in Hawaii. And so with my brother as well. My brother back in high school, his name was Barry and Barack Obama's name was

Barry. My brother's wife's name now is Michelle. That's her middle name. And his daughter's name is Sasha. And he's an incredibly right-wing conservative. And he spells his name without the C. So it's B-A-R-A-K.

And it drives me fucking crazy that everyone auto autocorrects to the president's name. Anyway, I thought... That makes an appropriate point, bro. Wow. That's some Illuminati shit you just went down. I know, man. I know, it is. Blew our mind.

It is. The Secret Service wants to get on top of it, but it's a little weird. I just dropped it. Alright. So that's who you guys are playing for. You can just throw this down on the... There you go. I didn't do that. You don't have to hang onto it the whole time. I didn't damage it.

Plus, it's worthless. All he made that for was for this to happen, and it's happening. You're playing for him. He's got a chance. How do you feel you're going to do today, Rod? That's the bad news. Now, are you like Leonard Maltin in that,

like, you reviewed all those movies, but you don't retain any of the... Oh, you got to lose your memory of these things. Right? You see too much. Well, not only that, but when I was a critic, there were movies you want't retain any of the oh you gotta you gotta lose your memory of these things right there's too much well not only that but when i was a critic there are movies you want to get rid of i mean like you don't have to see every movie i had to see every movie right leonard has to see every movie and i and i guarantee you that's a lot of his life is miserable that's why that's why i trust uh rotten tomatoes becausees because I think critics see everything.

So if they all agree on something, then at least there's some value there. It might not be the greatest movie ever. It might be the English patient. But you know what I mean. This is an example of something I think is boring that won Best Picture. Same thing with The Hours.

I cannot watch that movie. Leave Nicole Kidman alone. No, I will not leave her or that movie alone. It's boring as fuck. You just told her she deserved to ask more than those. I was being very facetious. You're a good actor because it didn't appear that way. But listen, try being a film...

You've seen Not Another Teen Movie? Try being a film critic trying to cast a film with actors that you've shit all over. I've had some real experiences there and it wasn't cool. Yeah, but you've also you really have worked with a lot of amazing actors. Well, that's

the good part. When I told Joan Allen, I think you're the best actor in the world, most actors hear that and they go, yeah, sure. But I's, I know, I know you think that. You've been saying it over and over again on your radio show. So she knew that. However, there was one actor,

I'll tell you, it was Bill Paxton, and I tried to get him. You're going to talk shit about the death? No, not at all, not at all. I think he's a wonderful actor. You know, true lies and... But even, like, some of his best roles, I think, were towards the end. Like, he was really... Right, he was a wonderful actor. True lies. But even some of his best roles, I think, were towards the end. He was really...

Right. He was a wonderful actor. He was taken away way too soon. He's a great actor and a great guy. However, I wrote a really bad review of his for a movie called The Dark Backward. It was one of the first movies I ever reviewed. Yeah, that's not a good movie. So I offered him a role in a movie I made called The Contender.

And he said, well, let's talk about it. You know, the agent calls. He wants to talk to you about it. Meet him at the Peninsula Hotel at 9 a.m. for breakfast. So I go to the Peninsula Hotel. And Bill's there. And he's already eaten his breakfast. You know, he's been there.

And he said, hey, how you doing? I go, great. You've eaten. He goes, uh-huh, sit you doing? I go, great, you're eating. He goes, uh-huh, sit down. And I sat down and he said to me, so I remember what you said about the dark backward. He said, you said that, hey, if they can take away someone's driver's license for bad driving,

why can't they take a SAG card away for bad acting? And he said, I just wanted to meet with you to tell you to go fuck yourself. Amazing. Amazing. He gets up and he leaves and I'm sitting there and the waiter

comes over to me and says, here's the bill, sir. Yep. To which you said, game over, man. Well, I will say this. Now, since then, we made up because I met him at a Golden Globe party where my phone was nominated. And he came to me, and he said, yeah, maybe I should have done that thing. But he was so nice, and we swore that we would work together again. Not again, we would work together.

And it's so sad that it never came together. But I thought that was such a ballsy thing that he did. And other actors have done similar things to me, but it's also worked in my favor. Because they also know that I'm truthful when I tell them I like their stuff. Now I don't have to do that. Now I can lie. Because I haven't been a critic in a long time with these younger actors.

Yeah, if you're listening, Leonard Maltin, don't go into directing, because you're going to have a rough road from all your mean reviews. All right, first up, we're going to play Characters Welcome. I'm going to name characters from a motion picture.

Okay. You know, what they're credited as in the credits. You're looking for the name of an actor. You're going to name different characters they played? I'm going to name characters that are in a movie. Oh, and you're looking for the title of the movie. Thank you, sir. All right.

We're going deep. It's not going to go well. Do we buzz in with our name, or do we just yell out the title? Just yell out as often as you like until somebody gets it right, which will happen. Do you allow pre-guessing?

Jumanji. Jumanji, no. Welcome to the jungle. Apollo 13. No. Okay. JFK. We 13. No. Okay. JFK. We took a shot.

What movie has characters in it called Hippie? Reporter? Newsies. Zodiac. Arresting Officer Number Three? Half-Baked. Sharon Lyons now I feel like we should know this someone named Kay Eddie baps boogie nights a character character just known as Bookkeeper? Harry Rosenfeld?

Not only do we not know this, but there's not a single person listening who's screaming out the answer now. People in the movie know it. I don't even think so. How many bookkeepers and arresting officers are there? We got Harry Rosenfeld. And someone Lyons. That's pretty solid,

but I think this next name is going to give it Deep Throat. And All the President's Men. That's correct, Sam Levine. Okay. That's the fastest that title's ever been said. All the President's Men. I'd like one ticket for All the President's Men. My stepson

there is freaking out, and I'll tell you why. Because not only is All the President's Men my favorite movie. Okay. I fucking knew it. Okay. But. Okay. But.

But. But. But. I'm literally. Has. I've just written the sequel to it. Last of the President's Men with Bob Woodward. So it's really bad that I don't know them.

Well, he didn't write the screen. wrote the book and I've adapted it. Is the hippie coming back? Those are the last. Who's that? I don't even remember. I've seen that movie so many times I don't remember a hippie in it. But the last names of course were Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward and All the President's Men.

Yeah I just from your filmography I thought I'm going to give Rod a shot here to beat Sam. Yeah, but... And I'm going to name what I think is a movie he admires a great deal. If you had said Donald Segretti or Ben Bradley,

then I would have hit it. Yeah, Ben Bradley is a good giveaway because Jason Robards is amazing. By the way, I bet you all those characters are also in the new

Mark Felt movie about Deep Throat. I am so looking forward to that. Yeah, that's brand new, right? I've seen it, yeah. Oh, is it good? Liam Neeson is amazing. Liam Neeson's a great actor. Oh, that's brand new, right? I've seen it, yeah. Is it good? Liam Neeson is amazing. Liam Neeson's a great actor.

Oh, that's him? Yeah. He plays... I thought... I swear, when I saw the poster, I was like, that guy looks like Liam Neeson. Yeah.

It's just one of his many skills. Yeah. Talking to Liam Neeson. Doug liked that one. That was a humiliation, by the way. I don't know that movie. Yeah, you know, I mean, I don't know how many episodes of the show you listened to to prep for this, but humiliating the guests is kind of my thing. I've spent the past week listening to it.

The more successful you are, the more likely I'm going to try to slip titles past you that you should know. Yeah, I've been binge listening to your podcast nonstop. That's all I've got to do. Between football games. How do you think you to do. All right, well then. Between football games. How do you think you'll do at whose tagline is it anyway? I'm not good at this one. All right.

So Sam gets to go first. Then we'll go to Clark. Then we'll go to you, Rod. All right. And so you got two other people's failure before it gets to you. Okay. Because Sam. Yep. What movie has the tagline, don't reveal the source?

All the President's Men? Hey, which reminds me, there's a Deep Throat character in the new Wet Hot American Summer. There absolutely is. Played by our friend Josh Molina. I know the answer to that one. Of course you know, but you don't get to say it yet. Clark gets to guess.

Okay. But can I just say that the tagline for all the President's Men is follow the money. Oh. But that's also the sex game that Donald Trump and Melania play. Whoa. Okay. Whoa. Okay. Whoa. Yeah.

Somebody brought their knives tonight. Follow the money ends up at the gold toilet. Yeah. I bet. All right. Clark, do you have a guess for don't reveal the source? I'll go spotlight. Oh, that's a good one.

No. I mean, but. I, that's a good one. No. I mean, but... I know that's not right. I think those sources should be revealed because they're all in the priesthood. What's the name of it, Rod?

Nothing But The Truth. Nothing But The Truth. Rod Lurie film. That movie, it's got... It's starring Kate Beckinsale. That wasn't hard for you to look at her for a few months, was it? And Vera Farmiga.

Oh, shit. But I'll tell you, that movie never got released because the Yari Film Group, which made the movie, we got nominated for all these things. I went to Ebert Fest with Nothing But The Truth. It's the only movie he ever reviewed off of a DVD. But the company went bankrupt. I think it's my best film.

But Vera Farmiga, let me tell you how good an actor Vera Farmiga is. So there's a scene where she's taking a polygraph test. And so what I did is I brought in a real polygraphist and he really touched her up and I thought I'm going to go

verite, right? And so he asks her, is your name, you know, Erica Van Doren? And Vera, as Erica Van Doren says, yes. Are you in the CIA? Yes. And so on and so on. So we finish the scene. She's great. And then the polygraphist came to me afterwards and says, I've done this for 50 directors. And he says,

this is the first time it says that she's telling the truth. Yeah, even though she's an actress and all of it's a lie. Yeah, it's amazing, but she is... She's so good at it. Because she believed it. So what you're saying is polygraphs can't be trusted in courts. That's what I'm getting from this innocence project. Yes, absolutely.

And he's also saying don't stay at Bates Motel. Because she's real. Yeah. All right, so you got a point there. So you're doing good, Rod. But Sam gets to go first on this next one. Oh boy. What movie has the tagline, welcome to the greatest show on earth?

Oh, I know this one. It's the greatest show on earth. That would be crazy obvious, but not below me. Yeah, I know this one. It's the greatest show on earth. That would be crazy obvious, but not below me. Yeah, I know. Clark? Network? Oh, that is a great tagline for network. Rod?

Rod? Rocky. It's another movie you made called The Contenders. No, no, no. We both should have known. We both should have known. What are you talking about? There's multiple taglines listed by IMDb

and that's the one that I thought might trick you. You know what that is? That was on the British poster. Oh, okay. Okay, so it doesn't count. It counts for this game. You are a loser. Can I tell. Okay, so it doesn't count. It counts for this game. You are a loser. Can I tell one anecdote, please?

Please. That's why I'm bringing up your movies. Has anybody seen The Contender here? Okay, good. So Jeff Bridges is My son keeps raising his hand. I know you've seen it. Okay, it's okay. Jeff, my wife hasn't seen it. My wife!

My wife. My favorite! It's my favorite! It's so good. So I want to offer Jeff Bridges the part of the President of the United States. And at that time... Me too, by the way. Right now.

Yeah, he'd be much better. Yeah, oh the way. Right now. Yeah, he'd be much better. Yeah, oh my God. As stoned as... I got so many stories. Anyway, so Bridges, I want to get him into the movie. And the financiers and everyone didn't want him because he always played, you know, like the Big Lebowski, right? Has anybody here seen Big Lebowski?owski, right? Has anybody here seen

Big Lebowski? Everybody, right? Okay, so I go to his house in Malibu, right? And I knock on the door. It's 10 in the morning. And he answers the door in his Big Lebowski costume. And now I don't mean Big Lebowski light clothes. I mean the costume from the Big Lebowski. He's wearing it, okay? And I'm looking at him. He goes, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking I'm wearing Lebowski clothes. Lebowski was wearing my clothes. And he explained to me that he brought his own costume.

So he says to me, do you want a drink? Now, I don't drink at all. I have never drank in my life. But as a joke, what do I say to him as a drink that i want white rush right so i say white russian and jeff it's 10 in the morning and jeff says an excellent idea so he comes out on the patio he's got six white russians and two croissants right and over the next two hours he proceeds to drink all the white russians mix a hell of a Caucasian. Oh my God. And he walks me to my car

and he has his arm around me and he says, and he's a drunken stupor, and he says, the dude as president, who'd have ever thunk it? And one year later and the nominees are

and he's one of them. You know, he was, and by the way, he's one of the greatest actors in the history of the screen. He's so good in The Contender. Yeah. You know.

And yes. You guys should work together again. We've tried it. We've tried a couple of times. I produced a movie that he was in called Scenes of the Crime. And we have made a couple of attempts to work together again. I assume we will. I assume we will. Cool.

Alright, Sam. Oh boy. 0 for 3 here. What movie has the tagline we take care of our own? Deterrence? That laugh means no Clark

we take care of our own I don't know primary colors I don't know either it sounds not... Primary colors. Nope. I don't know either. It sounds like it might be a war film. Did you make a war film? No.

I mean, this is sort of a war movie, I guess. This better not be one of my films. There's definitely a battle between different factions. The Warriors. No, it's your film Straw Dogs. That's also not a tagline. Yeah, I mean, a lot of the ones are obvious. I think the word straw is even in one of them. But you did great, dude.

Yeah, I didn't know my own movies. Here's one more that's one of your movies. And this one, there's no way you're going to miss this one. Okay. A castle can only have one king. Yes. That would be The Last Castle. The Last Castle, yes.

Very good. I'll tell you what. So I did The Contender, which Steven Spielberg bought for DreamWorks. It was an independent film. And he sort of became my mentor and he offered me The Last Castle if I could convince Robert Redford to do the film because they wanted him in the lead and knowing that they would give me a huge amount of money more money than I ever made in my life combined if I could do it and I got to work with my hero, Robert Redford. So you're meeting Robert for breakfast.

No. Actually, it was, believe me, Redford doesn't read reviews at all. So I'm told, okay, you got three hours with him in his room at his apartment where he's staying, in London, flew me to London to meet him. But he only got three hours. So I go and I meet Robert Redford. And I sit down and I said, let me get the gawking fan stuff out of the way first.

All the Presidents Men is the most important movie in my life. And maybe you want to be a reporter, then a filmmaker. And he goes, ah, most important film in my life too. And then three hours later, we're talking about the casting of Jason Robards as Ben Bradley, and he gets a knock on the door, it's time to go. I said, we haven't talked about The Last Castle at all. And he goes, tell you what, come back tomorrow, and I got two hours, but only two hours, and then we'll talk about it then. You're right, we shouldn't have gotten distracted.

I come back the next day, and I say to him, I turned on the TV in my hotel room, and the Sting was on. He goes, ah, the sting. Okay. Okay. And at the end, we're still talking about the sting after two hours. And there's a knock on the door and he's leaving. Not only is he leaving, he's getting on a plane to leave.

And I said, Bob, we didn't get to talk about the last castle. And he turns around to me and he gave me that Redford smile. And he said, Rod, you had me at the contender. And he turns around to me, and he gave me that Redford smile, and he said, Rod, you had me at The Contender. And he walked out, and he was in the movie. And it was, you know, one of the,

truly one of the great thrills of my life. He is my hero. You know, all the President's Men, and Butch Cassidy, and not only that, the formation of Sundance, and the great directing in Ordinary People, although he shouldn't have won that year.

He's in that movie where he fixed a boat. Yes. Well, the boat got destroyed. He tried, though. All is lost. There's a lot of watching him try to fix it. Yeah. But yeah, amazing, amazing actor.

I can get him here. That's cool. Yeah. Oh, my God. That'd be crazy. Can you imagine me yelling my wife after he says it? I don't know that he has one of those. Oh, he's single now?

I think he's got it. When I was with him, he had a girlfriend that he was very close to. It was more or less his wife, but maybe she's married. I don't know. All right. We'll look into it. Put on your investigative hat. Go get it.

You won that game, Rod. Great job. Great job making all those movies and recognizing some of them. And so you get to go first in our final game of the evening and then we'll go to Clark and then to Sam and then me because I

like to play along in this one. It's called Last Man Stanton named after the late great Harry Dean Stanton who was on the show once. If you haven't heard that episode, it's a delight. I think that we could get

we could unite the country If we just gave Harry Dean Stanton The Academy Award Posthumously for Lucky I don't even care how good it is or not good it is You haven't seen Lucky yet? Yeah, it's his last movie I guess

And I've heard it's good We should just give him the Oscar And then the country will be united This is a true story. This is 100% true story. I was this close to producing that film. And for reasons I cannot go into, it did not happen. But I participated in one of the first table reads of that film.

I talked with John Carroll Lynch, the director, at length about the film. And Harry. And I still have not seen the film but I know it is going to be spectacular. Was he at the table read?

Oh yeah. And was he great? He was magnificent. And in his, like he was 89 or 90 when he did it? I think he was 91. Wow.

Yeah. That's incredible. He's a big Freaks and Geeks fan? Huge. Actually, he was more a fan of Club Dread. Oh, Bill Paxton

that's right okay so I'm gonna get the name of an actor or actress from an audience member that's been pre-selected

via Twitter and we're gonna take turns naming movies that person's been in if you can't think of one you're out but

you got one lifeline you can go to Rod you can't think of one, you're out. But you got one lifeline. You can go to Rod. You can go to Brock one time for help. Okay. And Clark can go to... Derek. Derek. And, of course, Sam can go to Jamie.

And where is someone named D underscore Linguini? Oh, that's me. Did I pronounce that right? Is it Linguini? Oh, that's me. Did I pronounce that right? Is it Linguini? That's right. Why? Why is your name D. Linguini? Because that's his name. That's a last name people have?

That's my legal last name. Your legal last name is Linguini. I'm Italian. Yeah, but there are Italian people called Spaghetti. Doug, you know I changed my name for showbiz? I'm really Sam Matzabal. You didn't know that?

My name's Doug Pasta Fazool. Alright, what are you... What are you going for? What's the D stand for? My name's Derek. Derek. Derek. Oh, shit.

That's right. You're Derek with the name tag. That happens a lot. That's funny. Willem Dafoe. Willem Dafoe. The original shithead. All right.

This is going to be a quick one. Yeah. I mean, it's like such a quick idiot test when you're talking to someone and they call him William Defoe. I just am immediately like, I don't want anything to do with you. It's fucking Willem. All right.

This is a tough one, but... I go first? Rod gets to go first. Last Temptation of Christ. Yes. I'm going to take an obvious one. Slow down, slow down. Christ.

I write it all out. Clark? Spider-Man. He's in Spider-Man? He sure is. Have you seen it? I literally didn't know that. Really? Yeah. He's the Green Goblin, yo. Spider-Man. He's in Spider-Man? He sure is. Have you seen it? I literally didn't know that. Really?

Yeah. He's the Green Goblin, yo. Yeah, yo. Come on, yo. He's James Franco's dad. Okay. In real life. Yeah.

Have you guys seen The Deuce on HBO? I have. Yeah, sure. I've been watching it. Yeah. I don't know. It's like The Wire without anything to solve. Yep.

It's like there's nothing driving it forward. It's like, oh, let's all do stuff for a while. Do you remember The Wire? Like the first four or five episodes of the first season of The Wire were like homework. It's hard to get into. Yeah. So I think this might be kind of the same. Like they're just taking the time to set everything up and then it's going to start rolling.

I'm hoping. I don't know. Yeah, no, it's got some good stuff going on, but I just don't I don't see what, I don't, I'm not like, oh, next week I'm wondering what's going to happen with this. Right. Like I'm more like, it just washes over you. Right. You know.

Yeah. In the meantime, since literally the first two Willem Dafoe movies to pop into my head were just said out loud, I'm going to go with one I would like to have held for later, but what are you going to do? Speed 2 Cruise Control. Yeah!

Oh, yeah. You should have held on to that one. Yep. Should have. None of the rest of us were going to say that. Should have. Okay. I will go with maybe this is tough to call his creepiest performance

but I'm pretty sure it's in a motion picture called, and David Lynch was mentioned earlier, Wild at Heart I love it, that was one of my next ones Yeah, he's really unpleasant in that Rod? When you said This is one of my next ones. Yeah, he's really unpleasant in that.

Rod? When you said the most obvious one, I thought you were going to say, in fact, the most obvious one. What was it? Platoon. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty solid.

Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. I did it again. I jumped it. No, that's okay. Are we ready? Go now. Okay.

Shadow. Wait. No, that's okay. Are we ready? Go now. Okay. Shadow. Wait.

Shadow of what? The vampire. Yes. That was cool. He did a good job in that, I thought. He's great in it. Yeah. Very cool movie. Sam?

He's also creepy in a different way In a movie called Autofocus Oh yeah With Greg Kinnear And Maria Bello And Who's the other wife That's not what game we're playing

I know I'm just trying to Do you like to show off No no I just haven't seen the movie since I saw it in theaters and I'm trying to see if I remember who else was in it. At this time, I am forced to say The Life Aquatic with Steve Zizi.

So good! At one point, one of us is going to say a Christopher Walken film by accident my turn yeah Light Sleeper I think that's my last one

well you got your lifeline you can go to in the in the next round Clark American Psycho oh that's right oh that's right Start thinking. In the next round. Clark? American Psycho. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, he rules in that movie. Ah! Rescue Dawn. Okay. Trust me. Wait a second. Did you expect people to lift you up on their shoulders? Nope. I'm just proud of myself.

I'm just proud of myself. Wait a second. Is he in fact in that movie? In Rescue Dawn? Rescue Dawn or Dawn? Dawn, D-I-W-N. Rescue Dawn. Yeah. Yeah, okay. No one in this room is questioning it except for you. Okay, alright.

You know, we'll contact the corrections department later if there's an issue, but that's part of this game is you get to stay in if you're confident. Okay. And if I can't prove you wrong. Seems like he'd be in that. Because weren't they all emaciated?

He's good at that. He's good at looking like he's lost a lot of weight. So if I just say, like, the outsiders. Well, no, you outsiders, and we're confident. No, you've already given up the fact that you're not confident by saying, well, if I just say... Yeah.

All right. Yeah. But this one that I'm about to say is The Hunter. Where you spend most of the movie watching him make intricate little traps. Very boring.

Rod, you can go to your lifeline or you can take a stab at it. I'm going to take a guess. I think he's in 8 Million Ways to Die. I think he is. I'll take it. I think it's true.

Someone can. Nobody can. That's not what they're here for. They're just here to watch and laugh. No, he's in 8 Million Ways to Die. Okay. If I'm wrong, I'll... No one's disputing it.

No one's against it. Well, you got your phone out. Check it out. No, they don't. I don't want them to look at their phones. You mean I can get away with this just by being confident?

You might be able to. I have a feeling you'll fall in a later round, but we'll see. We'll see what happens. Clark? So, I did a double feature of the paper boy

and this movie one night when I smoked some marijuana, which says a lot about me. Antichrist. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was a fucked up night, but it was fun. I had a great time. Sam?

Spider-Man 2. That was my next one You jerk Shit I should have said that one Yeah I had that one Holstered along with

Spider-Man 3 Yep Rod Not only was he in Spider-Man He was in Three of them Two and three

He's not in three He them. Two and three. He's not in three. He is. They find a way. Do you want to... Life finds a way. Nymphomaniac. Really? Yeah.

No. He just made a face. You should go to your lifeline. I don't want you to lose. One second. I'm wondering if that isn't... He was... That was...

Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter. He was also in Annie Hall. Lifeline. Basquiat. Basquiat. Wow. Damn. Basquiat.

Yes. Very good, Ron. Now I have a feeling I need to... I'm going to have to think of one. Yeah. All right. Derek, you did this to us. What do you got, Derek?

Once Upon a Time in Mexico. Great. Yes. Once Upon a Time in Mexico. All right, Jamie, what do you got? I'm proud of this, but Death Note. Death Note. Wow.

Death Note. Death note. You guys will tell me right away if I'm wrong on this. I feel it. Grand Budapest Hotel. Yeah, he is. See, sometimes that's what you can do, Rod, is you can just be like,

oh, we just said Life Aquatic. What other Wes Anderson movies is he in? What other Oliver Stone movies? Right? He had to show up in another one. Is he in Money Never Sleeps? Definitely not. And is he... I think he is a nymphomaniac.

Am I wrong? Somebody's backing you up on this. I'll take it. Nymphomaniac. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Good job.

Clark? So I'm going to go Nymphomaniac part two Oh He's not in it? Not sure Not sure? She lost interest After Nymphomaniac one

It's like porn She only had to watch Five minutes I think it's the same movie Just show them Well I mean Come on

I mean Kill Bill volume one Kill Bill volume two He's not in the Kill Bill Volume 1, Kill Bill Volume 2. He's not in the Kill Bill. I leave it to Doug. You tell me. Yeah, I don't think he's in that one. All right.

Yeah. Do I get a strike? He might be. I'll have to apologize to you later. Okay. All right. Because you're out. All right.

Man, and I'm the only girl on the panel, too. Willem Dafoe is kind of a hard one, though. Sorry. Sorry, Derek. It's all good. panel too. Willem Dafoe is kind of a hard one though. Sorry. Sorry, Derek. Doug, I appreciate you steering me down the Wes

Anderson path. Right. I believe he is a voice in the fantastic Mr. Fox. Yes. Wow. That's really good. I feel like he shows up in Moonlight Kingdom. Nope. Okay, I'm out. Rod?

Okay, so now we gotta... You got one more? We gotta go. Is he in any other Scorsese movies? Oh. No, I don't think so. No, I think I'm out too. I got one more that I was sitting on

because I know it's gonna kill Rod. Okay, let's hear it. The Clearing, co-starring... Robert Redford. There it is. Yes! Sam Levine is our winner! What a surprise.

Great job, Sam. Thanks, buddy. Do some plugs. Where can we see these things you're in that are streaming? Well, one of them is on Verizon's Go90 platform. However that's available, I don't know. That's called the fifth quarter. Presumably

you can catch it sometime next year. They didn't tell me. And then the other thing's on YouTube Red. And as soon as I'm legally able to talk about it, I can assure you I will. But in the meantime, check me out on Kevin Pollack's chat show at our YouTube page, youtube.com slash Kevin Pollack's chat show. We just

had Diedrich Botter and Matt Besser and upcoming guest Ricky Gervais on October 29th. Check that out for sure. Wait a second. You do the Kevin Pollack show and you couldn't get him here? You know, I think he's just upset with me. You got me? No, that was the

good part. This is an upgrade. Thank you. He's not going to talk about Pumpkinhead. Yeah. When we did Deterrence, at the very first screening of it, he was going to be a producer on it with his then wife. And he sits and he looks at the movie. And then he comes to me afterward and he says,

you know, I just want to warn you, the critics are going to prison rape you for this movie. I said, you think so? And then the next day, he called and said he wanted his name off as producer. And then things got a little better.

We went and we re-edited it and so on and then he was getting really great reviews but then it was too late. He also turned me down for The Contender. I wanted him in that. He made a lot of bad decisions, culminating with not being here tonight. No, I got to say, Kevin's a great guy.

I played poker with him for many years, and that's how I got him into Deterrence. Because somebody said to me, my producer said to me, he said, we should make a movie that takes place in one location. And we were in with a, I made a short film that got bought by a French company called TF1. And I went to the head of TF1 and I said, you know, I play poker with Kevin Pollak. If I could get him

into a movie, how much would you put into the movie? Well, he had done Usual Suspects. He says, if it's just Kevin, we do 800,000. So I said, okay. So then I had to get Kevin into the movie? Well, he had done Usual Suspects. He says, if it's just Kevin, we do 800,000. So I said, okay. So then I had to get Kevin into a movie. And I said, what is a little Jewish guy who's like five foot one?

What is he? I believe he's five six. In my eyes. Sure, sure. Okay. And I said, what movie, what role could he

never turn down? What would he never get and I said ah President of the United States and so I wrote it for him as President of the United States and of course he couldn't say no he could not say no real quick Clark and I were talking about this before there's a quick shot of

because he's running in the campaign and there is a quick shot keep in mind this movie is from 1998 a quick shot of who he's running against for president. You all get one guess who it was. Oh, no. That's right. The orange monster himself.

It sure was. Orange Mussolini. I predicted it. Yeah. I knew for sure he was going to run for president one day. Yeah. So this movie is ahead of its time, folks. Check it out.

It was a drama. It's on iTunes. It was a drama. So in case you're not getting enough of that in your real life, go watch this movie's ahead of its time, folks. Check it out. It was a drama. It's on iTunes. It was a drama. So in case you're not getting enough of that in your real life, go watch this movie. All right, Clark. Promote yourself.

All right. You can find me at Clark Wolf, Clark with an E, Wolf with an E. I just co-produced and, or produced and co-starred in a musical, a slasher musical called Slashed, the musical.

And it's, Sam saw it. I saw it. Check it out if you can. It's super good. It's. And it's, Sam saw it. I saw it. Check it out if you can. It's super good. It's going to come back in, yeah, thanks. So it's going to come back in 2018, but for now you can download the cast album for free,

and we've got enamel pins and all kinds of stuff so you can find it attached to me. And thank you for having me, Doug. Thank you, Carpool. This was such a treat. With an E on both names. You know, it's funny, a movie that I had made a year ago was Killing Reagan

for National Geographic Channel, and it was based on the Bill O'Reilly book, which was a little weird for me to do. Right? In fact, Bill O'Reilly showed up on the set, and this guy is so pompous, he makes Trump look like Pope Francis. I mean, he's...

But anyway, but he liked the film, and this guy is so pompous, he makes Trump look like Pope Francis. But anyway, but he liked the film and he literally called me. You know what else he said? He said, I don't think he's going to get elected, but I know Trump better than anybody and I swear to you, he said this in all seriousness, he said in front of all the producers,

if Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, I'm going to be running this country. And so, he gets elected and O'Reilly contacts me and he says, I've got a serious question for you. How would you like to direct the inauguration? You know, I don't know, to ask me that question, he definitely has not seen my movies. You're Lenny Riefenstahl. And what's your next thing that we can

look forward to seeing? Well, the very next thing happens to be there's going to be a new television series on the USA channel called Damnation. Oh, it looks so good.

It is so good. It looks so good. It's going to be at the caliber of the Breaking Bad and so on, except the episodes I directed. But I directed a few of the episodes.

I believe it begins on November 7th. Logan Marshall Green is in it. He's just fantastic. And next year, I'm going to shoot a movie called The Outpost based on the bestseller by Jake Tapper, about one of the really great... Oh, that's right. That is...

I adore Jake. That's such a... I'm so looking forward to that. Jake's fantastic. You know, he's really... Sam plays softball with him. Sam, you could be in a movie. Can you act?

Fantastic. Okay. Does it matter? You can... No, we'll... I'll tell you what. We'll kill you first. Perfect.

Okay. I am in. Unless you're really good, and we'll kill you first perfect I am in unless unless you're really good and we'll kill you alright deal's a deal you know it's so

it's so funny that in the movies like the war films in the old days if there was a black guy in the unit he would be the first to go pretty standard

now he's living yep for the whole movie yep that's progress folks yes that's true That's absolutely true

Jamie come get your prizes Congratulations Very heavy prize bag I thought Brock won What? I thought it was Brock that won No Brock doesn't win shit He doesn't?

Yeah Sam won You didn't win Oh didn't you He just told me I won When? You won the middle game You didn't win. Oh, didn't you? He just told me I won. When? You won the middle game, which didn't have a... Oh, I won the game. It's like a tennis thing.

Okay. I got to win two out of three sets. Yeah, you didn't win the match. I see. Okay. I was Bobby Riggs. Okay, I get it. Have you seen that Battle of the Sexes movie?

Yeah, yeah. Is it good? It's a fun movie. It's a good movie. I wanted to see it today, but I was sad. She's going to get nominated. Emma Stone? Yeah.

She's in the club now. She's in. Okay. Done deal. All right. Oh, what was I going to say? Oh, Douglas Movies is at the Alamo Drafthouse

in Kansas City on Thursday, October 12th. And thank you to all three of my guests. Terrific panel. Thank you. Sam Levine, Clark Wolf, and Rod Lurie.

All with an E on the end. And as always, the goose that bit me is a shithead. And guns are a shithead. Yeah. All right.