Doug Loves Movies - Samm Levine and Geoff Tate guest

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

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Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming baby sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies. Hey, hey, hey everybody. My name is Doug and I love Alex Trebek. Rest in peace. This is Doug Loves Mov movies coming to you once again in slightly hopeful land for another homes alone edition it's sunday november 8th 2020 and i think we all need something special right now so here it is a treat for your ears sam levine and jeff tate are here to go head-to-head in the OG Leonard Maltin game. Hello, fellas.

Hello, Doug. What's up, Doug? Hey, with two guests, it's easier to have everybody just take turns talking. But let's meet you guys individually, starting with Sam the Ma'am Levine, a.k.a. Other Things. How are you doing? I'm okay. I'm okay.

I like you. I'm bummed today. Rest in peace, Alex Trebek, the greatest there may ever be in that line of work. Did you ever meet him? I did. I met Alex many times. I used to play poker with him. What?

What? Yeah. was he was wonderful he was one of the had one of the driest wits of of of anyone out there and uh and and he you know he'd had a lot of health problems the last 10 15 years of his life so it always kind of the sour but very humorous way he dealt with it was quite something. And, yeah, no, he was one of a kind. And I'm going to miss him terribly. You know, I was there at the taping. I got to go watch Ken Jennings become the goat. And, you know, Alex was already obviously this was like last December. So he's already had been dealing with the whole, you know, cancer treatments and stuff. And man, he was still at, you know,

I guess he was probably 79 or 80 at the time. He's 80 now when he passed away. Just still just like, so, so sharp and so good at the job. And then also, like you said, just witty and quick when he was like uh you know chatting with the audience in between uh rounds and stuff and um yeah he really uh he really like i kind of reminded me a little bit of like uh remember when warren zivon knew that he was gonna didn't have much time left because of cancer and he just said well i'm eating bacon at every meal i don't fuck it you know like yeah i feel like uh you know alex had a similar

attitude the fact that you know he was probably taping episodes of the show two days ago right he was yeah they said his last uh tape day was like the very end of October. So, I mean, talk about, you know, just absolutely going out the way he wanted to pretty much till the end. And that's the best you can really hope for anybody. Go out, do what you love. And he also got to see the results yesterday, finally. You know, it's almost like maybe he was waiting for that.

I think a lot of people were hanging on for that. Right? Yeah. Anyway, thank you so much for being here today, Sam. My pleasure. On a sad, happy day, depending on whether you're talking politics or game shows. Also joining us today is Jeff Tate, Tate, Tate. How are you doing, buddy?

I'm good. I never... All right, Tate. How are you doing, buddy? I'm good. I never. All right. Enough politics. You never what? I never met Alex Trebek. I don't even. I've never played poker.

I didn't meet him either at that. When I went to the taping, you know, he was just he'd just be, you know know he wasn't coming out and meeting each individual audience member so but we did get to run around on the set after ken was declared go because we were there we were like there is ken's friends so like uh i posted him on twitter today a bunch of pictures of me standing behind the podium and stuff uh but i didn't take a picture of myself in alex's spot uh and i'm glad i didn't now because, you know, that's, that's his spot. What? I said, yeah, that's sacred. I mean, my girlfriend did though.

So. A little haunting. But she, you know, she was very respectful about posting it today. I think it's even a black and white shot she you know she uh was very you know respectful about posting it today i think it's even a black and white shot you know class it up um what was i gonna say oh jeff um yeah well uh playing poker with alex trebek i'm not really talking to you jeff sam let's go back to you um so was he good at poker he was he was it was i mean he's a very smart guy so it's not a a big leap to say he'd probably be a decent poker player in fairness that particular game we were playing was much more about the camaraderie and the fun uh it was a very low stakes game we just played seven card stud um so you know there

wasn't a whole lot of expert level uh pokering going on it was it was mostly just you know just for funsies i think he wouldn't be good at jeopardy but as a contestant yeah you know what i mean like i think he knows a lot about certain things but I don't think he's like general knowledge like the contestants are. No. And even if he would know a thing, I don't know that he'd be able to have that kind of immediate recall that you need to be a good Jeopardy! contestant. Yeah, exactly. You haven't played Celebrity Jeopardy!, have you? I've not. I would love to, but apparently you have to be kind of recognizable to most people. Well, I know if you just shave your beard, people will be like, oh, it's the kid from TV. So, right.

Because you know how beards are such a great disguise in movies and television. But yeah, I, well, I would like to see that happen. So I'll start a petition or something. Okay. Thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. I mean, now is especially a good time to talk about who should be on Jeopardy when the host just died. Yeah. What about, would you host Jeopardy if they asked you to? In a heartbeat. That question was for Jeff.

Oh, fair enough. In a heartbeat. We thought Jeff and I were talking this morning and we, or I said something about how I had heard that Alex actually suggested that the next host of Jeopardy should be a woman. Oh, yeah. He said that somewhere. So we're going to hold him to that. I'm certainly not averse to it, although I think the fact that a friend of DLM, Ken Jennings, came on to Jeopardy! as a consulting producer about a year ago or so, certainly would lend itself to suggesting that possibly they were eyeing Ken to take over the mantle. Yeah, it's definitely a step in that direction. And I think he'd be great at it, but I also think then the world would lose a great contestant because I still would like to see him just show off his brain rather than just be the host reading everything off of a piece of paper.

You know what? Another good argument for me. I don't need to use my brain. Let me just read off the cards. Just read off the cards. I suggest it should be Ken Jennings hosts it, but does not have cards. We just have to take his word for it. Oh, yeah. He's memorized all the questions. Yeah, yeah.

Kind of like me when we play the last person Stanton. We just have to work our way through it. But, yeah. It's weird timing that they announced that the, that Ken Jennings and the other two guys that were in the greatest of all time tournament, the three of them are going to be on a new version of the chase that show where one guy knows all the answers and goes up against regular people. That was going to, I think it's going to be on abc so that's you know i mean

not that he couldn't handle both jobs if they wanted him to host jeopardy but it's uh you know he's already got a gig um let's look at the box office you guys real quick there's an actual box office report at mojo.com uh every box office mojojo every weekend they still are you know tallying it up based on drive ins and the limited capacity theaters that are that are open do either of you happen to know what the number one movie in the country is right now uh i do uh oh. If I can remember the title, I know it's that Kevin Costner, Diane Lane movie. Is it called like Let Him Go? Where did you see that? That's number one, because I got it. I've got a different answer. Oh, OK. I think I saw that on Deadline that said it was number one at the box office for two weekends in a row, which hadn't happened in a long time.

But I didn't click the article article so maybe it just charted yeah that article's full of nonsense because it's a new mutants and tenant and like a couple different movies have been number one for several weeks more more than two so because they haven't been unseated tenant at one point because they haven't been releasing anything anyway i mean you know it's all like it's nickels and dimes the the box office report like the like tenant this last weekend i think made like like uh you know a few hundred thousand dollars here in this in the united states and it just crowd it just crossed 350 million worldwide so so much for theaters in other countries being closed but number one according to my source is the war with grandpa which is uh you know not a not a documentary about the election.

Grandpa versus Grandpa. Which I guess none of us maybe will ever see because we still want to respect Robert De Niro and Christopher Walken. They're both in that? Yeah, that's why it's number one at the box office is this a sequel to dirty grandpa no it's not i think you know i think once he did two movies with fuckers in the title de niro thought oh i'm just gonna do as many doubles on titles as i can get in my filmography that's why his next film coming up is called the luck of the irish

that's why his next film coming up is called the luck of the irish oh it really should be the luck of the irish grandpa come on oh he doesn't need three grandpas in his filmography the grandfather part two uh what purple rain man title was i able to put together with two different deniro movies oh falling in love something uh damn it what was that other title jeff i can't remember man we do sometimes we do three a day that's true all right. So enough box office report. Let's get into recommendations. If each of you could recommend one movie to watch in this weird, happy, sad, scary time that we're in, what would it be?

No, Jeff likes White Men Can't Jump because it has a lot of jeopardy in it it's probably i was gonna say yeah you get some trebek in there it's outside of that cheers episode it's my it's my favorite thing trebek was in it's my favorite movie that the jeopardy is a part of do they show more jeopardy in that movie than they do on that episode of cheers they probably they do on that episode of Cheers? They probably show more on that episode of Cheers. Really? Yeah, because, I mean, you get a little, like, there's definitely more, like, back and forth.

Like, in the White Man Can't Jump, it's like a montage of her just answering questions. Like, her just saying, what is Keats? What is... Oh, right. and what about in the cheers episode what is the quail what is the quahog what is the quiche in um thanks sam in uh in cheers they just watch it in the bar you don't they don't actually have scenes of anyone at jeopardy norm no uh woody woody went to jeopardy twice woody and norm went to go to jeopardy to watch cliff and then woody is in in the audience for rosie perez as well so wow woody not the character he yeah but wo Woody Harrelson went to Jeopardy twice.

Well, you know, what was his name on Cheers? Woody Boyd and Billy Hoyle. It was Woody, yeah. But his name wasn't Woody in Lightning Can't Jump. It was like a stupid face. What? Billy Hoyle. Really?

That's right, Billy. Yeah. Yep. Wow, Woody Boyd and Billy Hoyle. Really? Right, Billy. Yeah. Yep. Wow, Woody Boyd and Billy Hoyle. Oh, yeah. All right, so can you recommend a movie, Sam? Have you seen something lately that you liked? Yes, Groundhog Day.

Alex Trebek is also in that featuring a Jeopardy scene. Wow. Way to stick on theme. You know, I try. That is a great movie though yeah well i watched a movie today that i would recommend there's no jeopardy in it but okay just watch it yeah i was just saying i was just making conversation i'd still need you to recommend something all right so here is the movie there's no nobody in their right mind recommend white man can't jump all right so check this out guys i watched memories of murder it's finally like it got its uh release oh it's it's bong joon-ho or joon-bong ho yeah yeah it got um it didn't have a distributor an an American distributor. And then after the success of Parasite, Neon did.

It was supposed to have a theatrical release in like April or May. But of course that didn't happen. And now it's out to rent on all the streamers. I rented it on iTunes and it was really good. It was amazing. It was, I liked it. Memories of murder? Yeah, it's bleak.

It's a little bleak. I mean, it's not going to, it's not going it's a little bleak i mean it's not gonna it's not gonna make you happy if you're not uh like if you need something that's uplifting i could i could go some other direction with this but it was really uh well they could they can watch memories of murder and then groundhog day yeah they need to snap out of the bleakness it stars the same guy song kang ho as parasite uh it's a really uh really good drama it's a it's about detectives trying to find uh south korea's first serial killer but which name is he going by officially now john june ho bong or bong june june ho Ho Bong or Bong Joon-ho? I think it's just the difference in how, like where English and Korean put their last names.

Like his like surname is Bong. And so that should be, like if they switch it, it'd be Joon-ho Bong in Korea, but here it's Bong Joon-ho. Wow. That is, that's tricky. you've been to korea jeff no no i'm just trying to figure out a pattern between because of like why yaoming's name said yao on his jersey and ichiro suzuki said ichiro on his jersey i know that's not korea but all right

memories of murder on all the streams and Groundhog Day where, you know, wherever Groundhog Days are sold. Whenever, wherever Groundhog Days are celebrated. Yeah. That was somewhere recently. Oh, I was watching 25 words or less. You'll enjoy this, Sam. And Mary McConnell went when told, you know, the clue was Puxatawney Phil. And she made a face like the words that have never been uttered in her presence her entire life and insisted she never knew that the groundhog is named Puxatawney Phil.

Wow. I knew I'd really be shocked. I am shocked. I mean, that's an enormous piece of Americana, the movie Groundhog Day. Oh, it actually came up recently on Jeopardy. And I was so thrilled that Alex didn't give the person credit because the person mistakenly said Groundhog's day right as as so many people incorrectly say and you know no one in real life is like hey it's groundhog day even though in my brain i want to um but i don't i bite my tongue every time so i was very happy to see alex say nope and then somebody rang and was like groundhog day and i was like yeah it's yeah it's an S, dummy.

That's always. Not a day celebrating all the groundhogs. That's always satisfying because I, you know, people get on me about the exact titles in my movie games, but it's just like, well, that's the answer. If you're just going to take something that's close, then that's a slippery slope. That's a slippery slope that's a slippery slopes yeah all right guys well i was gonna say nordstrom's when people add the s to nordstrom's bothers me as well oh dude i could i can make a list of the things that people add s's to or

take s's off of i used to really care a lot about when people would say James Wood, but now I just walk away. You would. There's no reason to discuss him at all. I had lunch today at Arby. Nobody does that. Nobody does that. Yeah.

I mean, people have lunch at Arby's, but nobody just calls it Arby. I don't think. I bought my nephew some gifts at Toys R U. Toys R him. Toys R me and him. Did you have to grab some money at the uh atm machine at the banks the banks of the river tem all right uh let's let's start today. Enough laughter. This is serious. Um, very serious.

Uh, how are you guys familiar with the new game on the show called weird algorithm? Remind me please. I think I played it once. I think Jeff has too, right? I definitely, I definitely laugh real. I remember you telling me the name of it. I definitely laugh real hard. I remember you telling me the name of it. That's why you didn't laugh at it today, because you already knew it. Good old Internet Movie Database, or Database if you're a Star Trek fan. They have a thing now where you can click on the cast list of anything and they will

rearrange the order. They'll refine the order by popularity according to IMDB. So what this game is, is basically I'll name a movie and then each of you get one guest. You can share the same answer. You can discuss why you've chosen your answer. But you each have to pick somebody from that film that you think would end up top billed, according to the popularity index. And it's it's hard to predict, which is part of the fun. And it's hard to predict, which is part of the fun. I've been playing it lately because when guests come on that aren't good at movie trivia, they could still win this game.

Okay. Three points for when you get one that's the top-billed person, two points for second-billed, and one point for third. No points for naming other people that are in the movie. And we generally, we always go alphabetically at first, you know, in our first game. Since we can't play something like Live, Die, uh,

live, die, repeat, you know, I don't, yeah. I'll resume it's, uh, I'll resume it's weird to play, uh, games where people are yelling out answers at the same time. It just gets, it gets, it's too muddy. Um, all right, here we go. It's too muddy. All right. Here we go.

The first film we're going to play today is The Social Network. Sort of topical because it comes up all the time how horrible Facebook is, what it's doing to this country. But who do you think in that movie is the most popular as of, I think I looked this up a day or two ago. Who's going first? You are Sam Levine comes before Tate. Oh're going surname i didn't know we're gonna go by yeah if it was the first name then yes it would be jeff okay but i don't recall ever anywhere things being alphabet alphabetized by people's first names but i'm sure you have an

example i don't i don't know no such example i just i don't know you mix it up sometimes um it's an enormous cast it could go any which way so i will go out on a limb and say justin timberlake all right you don't have to necessarily lock in your answer until you hear what jeff wants to uh go with oh i i can change my answer oh yeah it's very casual but then eventually you gotta lock in and just for strategies for strategy's sake you want to say that a different name than the other person says you know if you got it okay i'm gonna say because she had a movie that recently came out i think this week rashidaida Jones. Ooh. Oh, right, because popularity is an ever-changing thing on the

I am Doug Benson. Yeah. Sam, it's I am Doug Benson's. Excuse me. Ooh. So then strategically, I think I should

also say Rashida Jones, right? No, strategically, then you'd end up in a tie. Obviously, strategy is to win. But if you want to, you know, try to save yourself this round, you can say the same. Probably. She's probably number one, because I think Jeff's right on the money with the she's got a movie that just came out. So she's probably high up on the list. So I will, I will change my answer to Rashida Jones. All right, Jeff, are you locked in with Rashida? Oh man, this will be a fun time to change it to Justin Timberlake. If that's number one, I am flipping my computer over and leaving. I mean, I really think it's Rashida Jones.

So I'm going to lock in Rashida Jones as well. Okay. This is shocking, but I wrote down the top four, and Timberlake didn't even make that cut. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. I feel better already.

That's how weird this shit is. Coming in at number four, someone who only has one scene in the movie, but it is with Justin Timberlake, Dakota Johnson. Oh, wow. Yeah. See, cameos can can just with you on this game yeah or or early appearances you know when we we didn't know who she was yet really i didn't when i saw that movie uh coming in number three this is another thing i'll mess you up sometimes the screenwriter gets a dumb little part in the movie and then years later he makes the trial of

chicago seven so he becomes very popular uh number three is aaron sorkin he plays it he's an ad executive he's in that scene where zuckerberg's just sitting there making clicking noises yeah what is he doing is that a clicking noise And he tries to spell it or something. Yeah, and he's just sitting there going. Yeah. Right? It's funny that in the movie he wrote and the scene he's in, they're not walking and talking.

They're sitting and clucking. And then at number two, so you each get two points, Rashida Jones. We did it. Now here's a fun game. Guess who's number one? Armie Hammer. Jesse Eisenberg? Correct.

Oh, wow. It's Armie Hammer. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Because Death on the Nile is coming out soon. Is that why? I don't think that's why.

I don't think that's why. There's more famous people in Death on the Nile than him. But are they also in the social network? No. Right, I don't know. But I'm telling you, he's popular. He's very popular on IMDb right now for some reason, and I forget what it was,

but there's something that just happened. It's because there's two of them. You've got to forget about Social Network. That was made years ago. Who's popular today? That's why Timberlake didn't make the cut. What's he doing today? Nothing.

Yeah. Just sitting around. Who's he married to? Jessica Biel. Who's he married to? Jessica. Jessica Beale. Yeah. She's a sinner. Well, yeah. That's basically what Seventh Heaven was about.

That is crazy that she's probably only done two TV series in her life. And they're Seventh Heaven and The Sinner. That seems like she planned that. Alright. Round two. The holidays are almost here. I saw, I've seen

ads on TV for it already. So we gotta do, we gotta get into some holiday movies so let's start with the big one. Love, comma, actually. Aww. got to do we've got to get into some holiday movies so let's start with the big one love comma actually oh yeah jeff you gotta go miss cast doug jeff gets to go first this time i don't it's not gonna be small cast we're not gonna play frost nixon right that's frank langella everybody knows but that's also a holiday movie

every time because it's frost and then a reindeer all right so in love actually i'm going to guess again following the same logic as rashida jones there's that new show on hbo so i'm going to guess hugh. That is exactly what I would have said, Jeffrey Tate. Geoffrey Tate. Doesn't Liam Neeson's have a new thing? Yes, Liam Neeson's does have a new thing. Yeah, it's called Honest. Switch it up.

It's called Honest Thief. And according to Box Office Mojo, it was number two at the box office this last weekend. Oh, wow. All right, well, then you know what? To change it up, I'm going to say Liam Neeson's. How about that? Oh, man.

Okay, so we got it. I would have initially said Hugh Grant as well, but now I'm thinking about it. All right, so Jeff says Jeff's locked in with Hugh Grant's, and Sam's locked in with Liam Neeson's. Coming in at number five. Oh, boy. I didn't even know this person was in Love, actually.

Alicia Cuthbert. What? Oh. I didn't know she was in it either. Yeah, it must be a very brief appearance. It's like the credit was something like beautiful model or something like that, or American model. Number four, Keira Knightley.

Number three is Mr. Neeson's, Liam Neeson. Oh, don't you dare put. Oh, my God. If Grant's number one, I'm going to be furious. How do you feel about him being number two? Because Hugh Grant is number two. All right. A little better, but not great. Oh, my God.

And coming in at number one, Thomas Brody Sangster. Is that the kid? That's the goddamn kid. Oh my God. Why is he number one? Have you watched Queen's Gambit on Netflix? Oh, no, I have not. And that explains why I would not

have guessed that. He plays a chess player who wears like a cowboy hat and has a little mustache, and he still looks like a child. Okay. He's like in his 20s. He's like late 20s, I think, now.

But he still looks like a little kid. All right. So that's Jeff's taking the lead with four points. Sam has three. But Sam has a strong opportunity here because he gets to go first in the third and final round of Weird Algorithm.

And it's a film I'm sure you know front to back because I know you're a big fan of espionage. Mm-hmm. Big, big fan. Clear and present danger. Oh.

God damn it. It was a clear and present danger. All right. I'm trying to run through all of the supporting cast, thinking if they're in my head if there's anyone who had a teeny tiny role in that who's now super huge star i know one person in this movie is a shithead yes i thought about that too.

I mean, I can think of a whole bunch of people from that movie who were probably, you know, I just can't think of anyone with anything like an HBO series or a movie coming out. So I'm going to go with Han Solo himself and just say Harrison Ford. Okay. Jeff, what do you think? My original plan was just to also say whoever Sam said so I would win.

It's true. It's a real easy way to play the game if you're ahead going into the last round. But I also think, but I really do think it's going to be Harrison Ford. There's no way it's Ann Archer. Okay, but let me tell you who else I was thinking of. James Earl Jones, obviously in the movie, always a favorite. You've seen those ads on TV.

James Earl Jones reads the Bible. I'll put you to sleep. So I thought maybe people are checking jimmy jones out they see those commercials and they're like i wonder who james earl jones is yeah um who else is in the movie uh like you said ann archer is in it um isn't thora birch the daughter yeah thora birch plays the daughter i mean and she's great you know she was in american beauty and everything but i don't know what if there's anything she's got going on lately could it be henry zerny well he's in the new mission impossible i think so that's

oh shit he's back they're rising his role from the very first one from the very first movie i remember reading that i mean i can't say a hundred percent sure because i haven't very first movie. I remember reading that. I mean, I can't say 100% sure because I haven't seen the movie, but I remember reading that. Sam, I have two things to say to that. Red light, green light. Yes, you do. Just don't chew it.

I'm going to say, Asa Lasagna, don't get any on you. I'm going to, man, I'm just going to say, I'm going to say it because it's not the same answer. No, you know what? I'm sorry, Sam. I'm going to say Harrison Ford. I think it's all right. Well, then in that case, obviously, I have to change my answer, since if we have the same thing, no matter what I lose. So, OK, she might be in the queen's gambit she of sure i'm sure i'm sure she is i'm sure she's the head of some the face of some netflix show that i don't know exists so she's very popular right now but we

can't all you win i allow myself to say the same name i can't win so i have to change it so thoroughly sure all you win in this game is going first in the next game I don't know how important that is to either of you. But let's break this down. So wait, so which one? Jeff is who? I picked Harrison Ford and Sam picked Thor Birch. Okay.

That is correct. All right. Let me just write something. I can already hear Doug going on the list. Coming in at number 21. Number four is the just mentioned James Earl Jones. All right. Yeah. I think perhaps the only voice actor

that's in both versions of The Lion King. Yeah. You know, because the first one, they had Matthew Broderick, and the second one, they're like, well, James Earl Jones' son should be black. Yeah. It would help.

Coming in at number three, Willem Dafoe. The classic shithead. Yep. Number two is Harrison Ford. Ah, there you go. Because that's how this game works. Who's number one? Is it Ant Archer?

It could be Thora Birch. There's no way it's Thora Birch. It is. It could be Thor Birch. Number one. There's no way it's Thor Birch. It is. It's Thor Birch. No way! What? Are you kidding? You're fucking with me.

We're tied. No way is it really Thor Birch. Seriously? It really is. I don't manipulate these things for my own amusement. That's amazing. Birch is making a big comeback play. What is she in right now?

She was so good as a little girl and then all the way through like Ghost World and then she like kind of vanished. hocus pocus and American beauty and ghost world. Those were her big credits. And, and, and, uh, I don't, they don't, they have a cliffhanger in one of the Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movies that his wife is pregnant. Isn't that, don't they treat that like a cliffhanger? Yes. No, that, that the, the i know that that the the sex of the baby the sex of the baby yeah yeah there's actual genre of a genre reveal gender reveal in that fucking movie

but she was in last black man in san francisco which i have not seen um but here's what really puts her over the top fellas she is a current cast member on the walking dead oh damn the biggest show on tv i think maybe from 2011 now that's correct supermarket sweep is back uh all right so there you go uh we have a tie in that game but it doesn doesn't matter. It doesn't matter which one of you goes first in the Leonard Malton game. And we'll be back to play that right after these messages. All right. We're back. And ready to play. It's what everybody's been waiting for.

The OG Leonard Malton game. And I call it's what everybody's been waiting for, the OG Leonard Maltin game. And I call it that because there's, have you seen this, Sam? There's a new Leonard Maltin game in town. I have not. It's called King of Movies, the Leonard Maltin game. He hasn't sent you one? No.

Leonard Maltin in cahoots with Mondo out of Austin, Texas. They've come up with a game where it's kind of like that game where you write down, you know, dictionary definitions for a word nobody knows. And then everybody has to guess which one. What? That's balderdash. Oh, I thought you were attacking what I was talking about. That's balderdash. what a bunch of hooey um so uh yeah it's um like balderdash but with leonard malton reviews which i was kind of uh you know playing it in my head going through reading some of the cards last night and um it's it's hard to write in his style and trick

everybody into thinking that he wrote it just all you have to do is write suffers from over length i know i've i've i've made that same recommendation uh that he does uh he does go to referencing that it's too long a lot of the time theatrics don't make up for a lackluster script and it suffers from over length two stars right but then he also describes the plot a little bit so that gets really hairy because i think you just recognize when you read the one that's genuinely him the way the way word types of words uses in describing a plot you would definitely be one of the best players at this sam so you should definitely get your hands on a copy and play against people and make them sad.

Okay. That's what I like doing, making people sad. Yeah. 2020 is your year, buddy. Winning is fun. So if you look up hashtag Malton King of movies, I think that can lead you in the right direction to finding how to, to buy it. If anybody out there is interested, but we're going to play the Leonard Malton game that we played for so many years on the glow's movies until I got tired of having to explain it to the

guests and them not look at me like they have no idea what i'm talking about so anybody that's a newer listener uh you're just gonna have to not unlike if you tuned into jeopardy and had never seen it before they don't take a second to tell you how the game works they just play it and you figure it out yourself that's right that's america which is i think all game shows should work that way i don't think any of them they should explain anything it should just start playing and then you know if you watch it two or three times and you then you know how the game works but jeopardy is very special in that regard might not ever be copied who gets to go first well we were tied out of the last sam does yeah because sam is uh sam is still alphabetically first all right so sam you're going to choose between three

categories i won't tell you what the categories are until after you've chosen one okay a b or c no i'm kidding i'll tell you the name of the category, and I won't tell you what the category is about. Would you like Trebek, I will take what is a spoiler, Alex? Excellent choice. Those other ones will come back around if anybody else is interested in them. But the category is what is a spoiler alex these are movies that give away events in the film right in the title oh wow this one is from 1998 leonard gives it three and a half stars he says this movie is trenchant and that it has a superb creative team. He also lists 18 names.

Oh my god! How many names can you get it in? Sam Levine? Oh, my God. Trenchant, Superb Cast, 18 names. See, now, because there's only three of us or two of us, I have to make sure that I choose very carefully because there's no extra spoiler here, Doug. So I will say of the 18 names, let's go with 10.

Jeff Tate. Sam says he can get it in 10 names. You heard him as well. How many do you think it would take you to name this movie? Nine. Oh, that's a clever, clever bid. Back to you, Sam. Eight.

I like the way this is going. Mm-hmm. This is how the game should work. Let's see who blinks. Jeff? Jeff? 1998. 1998 superb creative team 18 names

3.5 stars I mean if the game was repeat all that stuff back you did very well I think I'm going to go it was trenchant trenchant well Trenchant. Well, I didn't say that because I don't know what that word means. It's what people yell in unison when they're inside of a trench.

A trench chant. I'm going to go negative one. What? Yeah, I think 18 names is the biggest giveaway. Wow, and you also like giving away things to your opponent who still hasn't bid. Oh, yeah. Fuck, I forgot that part.

Edit that out, Ryan. But. Just come up with that makes it so easy. Trench of 18 names hmm you want to go maybe the year i need i need to think about this for a minute here doug yeah i think maybe the year might have been like a real yeah maybe a real giveaway 1998 as well as i need to i'm terrible with years so that that would not have helped me probably trenchant now you've got me thinking about the word trenchant

now you've got me thinking about the word trenchant I think if you said 1984 I think that would narrow down movies for me but I think that's the only year I remember what movies I saw you know because it was an exciting year I'd moved to Los Angeles and so I was seeing movies in all the cool movie spaces in LA. That was the year I met the cast of the breakfast club at a weird journalism round table.

They were all there? Every goddamn one of them. Cause they were not, you know, only two because they were not you know only two of them were kind of famous at that point so they were all very they were all very team john hughes they were very uh you know sort of like when scott pilgrim came out the entire cast showed up for everything because they loved egger so much uh jeff i want to either thank you or curse you because making me think about the sheer amount of names uh definitely has made my head focus in on one particular movie and i know you gave a bit of negative one which is pretty damn perfect if this is in fact the movie so i have to try to roll the dice and say negative two all right i that leaves me no choice but to say negative three oh what is happening you guys are maniacs

i was i was rolling the dice with two jeff tate named that movie all right i'm gonna say the title of the movie is saving private ryan that's what i was thinking of and it's i'm gonna guess that the top three build people are tom hanks matt damon and tom sizemore he would have been my number two damn it what would you have done sam you would have gone hankson's hankson sizemore who would be three uh maybe probably damon well you didn't need to be right about that to get a point points for sam jeff is incorrect it's bringing out the dead isn't it It's bringing out the dead, isn't it?

I think that was 99. The film is Saving Private Ryan. And he went Tom Hanks, number one slot. Number two, Edward Burns. What? Yeah. I guess he was kind of big in the 90s. Yeah. And he also was kind of big in the 90s. Yeah. And then he also kind of was the more he was one of the more forceful of the of the bunch of guys that went on the mission.

But number three was Tom Sizemore. And then they go Jeremy Davies, Vin Diesel, Adam Goldberg, Barry Pepper, Giovanni Ribisi, then Matt Damon, because, of course, he doesn't have that big of a role in the film, Jeff. I guess not. Just a titular character. I think I've, I looked this movie up in the last couple of months and I think Leonard listed differently than it's listed on iTunes. Yeah, probably.

And Leonard, Leonard put Ted Danson right in the middle there. He's in the, oh, probably. And Leonard put Ted Danson right in the middle there. He's in the – Oh, wow. He's number – what is that, like 10? All right. Hey, Doug, how many points are we playing to? Two points. This is –

Wow. Oh, wow. This is like you've got to hit the ground running, and you both did. That was very – That was spectacular gameplay. And with two players, should we have the person who just lost the point pick the next category or the person who won? What would be the proper protocol? Oh, I think to keep it fair, the person who did not win

should get to pick the next category. Okay. All right. So, Jeff, you get to pick the next okay all right so jeff you get to pick the next category okay uh here are your options you got four non-bonds or uh the aforementioned 3-2 Tango. Or Bros Before Hi-Hos. Man. I'm going to take four non-bonds. I'm glad you did because this is another tribute category. This is another tribute category.

These are movies starring either Daniel Craig, Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore, or Sean Connery that are not James Bond movies. Narrows it right down. Those four have been in a lot of films. That is right. But there's also been a lot of films where the title reveals what happens, and you didn't whine about that one. No, I did not. I was just saying this covers a lot of movies.

It's a lot of movies. It's prolific. This category was suggested by Digifamily Memes on Twitter or maybe Instagram. I don't know which one. And Leonard is talking about a movie from 1996. He gives it two stars. He says that this movie is a yarn and that it has story holes.

And he lists 14 names. 14 names, 1996, Four Knob Bonds. I like repeating stuff. And of course, I should just say, just to be clear, that Sean Connery passed away this week, and Roger Moore was a while back, and the other two bonds are still living at the current time. Okay, I'm going to say 14 names. And apologies for leaving out george lazenby but come on who can name any other movie he was in besides the james bond movie

what about the timothy dalton i like timothy dalton in other movies but his Bond movies are up there as my least favorite ones. How many did you say, Jeff? I said all the names. You're taking all the names. 14 names. What do you think, Sam? Yeah, 14 names.

1996. I hate to ask, but can I get those clues again? Of course. Thank you, sir. Two stars from Leonard. Not impressed. Not impressed. Did not like it. Okay, I misheard that the first time. I mean, two could mean fair. You know. Did not like it. Okay. I misread that the first time. Two could mean fair. You know, like not, you know.

He calls it a yarn. And he says it has story holes. Plenty of them. Yeah. And it's 1996 with 14

performers in speaking roles. Doug, I am going to say negative three names. Well, this seems very uncool. I'm going to say negative four. Oh! Oh! Wow. going to say negative four. Oh! Wow. So you go from four... What are you doing over there, man? I'm fucking with you.

That was some sneaky play, Jeff, if you had an idea what it was when you said 14 names. Wow. Yeah. That is really interesting I can I mean I'd be guessing for the fourth so to go five

is just crazy. Oh, man. All right, Jeff Tate, name that movie. All right, so you've got to name the movie. And then, of course, for anybody who's not familiar, the negative bid means he's got to name the top four people in the correct order from first bill down to fourth, according to the listing in Leonard Moulton's book,

which does not always match up with anything else. It's Leonard's choice. As we see from the last one, it doesn't match up with whatever I think it is. Yeah. So this is a ballsy play, Jeff. All right, I'm going to go. What's the movie? The Rock. Sean Connery.

Nicolas Cage. Ed Harris. Oh, man, if you guys could hear my heart beating there's a lot to choose from I'm going to say my favorite doomed soldier Michael Biehn if I had to go negative four

that's what I would have done but I didn't trust the Biehn there's so many other characters oh man can you guys hear it thump thump yes that is correct wow oh my god if i if i gun to my head i probably would have said uh johnythe. Yeah, Forsythe ended up being fifth, and sixth is David Morse, and then seventh is John Spencer. Wow. Sixth, John C. McGinley, and then it just goes off the rails from there. Anthony Clark is 14?

He's 13. Oh, damn. Yeah, Claire Forlani got the coveted 14 spot wow as uh as nicholas cage in the game did that come to you jeff or were you just playing strategy i mean i thought when he said 1996 two stars i was like well leonard never really likes the movies i love so it's probably the rock. Got it. And I knew that was 96 because it was the last movie I got I was ID'd for.

Oh, wow. All right. Okay, so that means you each have a point. Sam gets to go first. This is the one. Whoever prevails in this one will be our winner today and get to walk around

saying that they're the best Leonard Maltin game player. Wow. And then somebody will go, you mean King of Movies, the Leonard Maltin game? And you go, no! Oh, man. OG. The OG Leonard Maltin game. They gave me a very nice

shout out in the instructions booklet. Here are your three categories, Sam. The aforementioned bros before hi-hos. Also the aforementioned three-two tango. Or Doug loves this movie. Oh, wow. Or Doug loves this movie. Oh, wow. Well, that seems very vague and specific and probably more likely to be in Jeff's wheelhouse since you talk movies with him on the internets every day. So let's go with 3-2 Tango.

All right. This one, I love this one because it's a category where no category where no one's gonna have any idea well you'll have some ideas but okay it's not that helpful as far as categories go three three two tango the three two tango is movies that leonard gives two and a half stars. Perfect. The year is 2012. Leonard gives it two and a half stars. He says that this movie is twist laden and that it's a bit like Born Light, like the Bourne movies.

And then he names 12 names. How many can you get it in, Sam Levine? Just say a number. I'm trying to think in my head if i have any idea um zero is also a fun bid. I'll say 12 names. All right. Jeff, he's luring you into his trap. He says 12 names. Man, are you just copying me, saying you're copying my strategy? Maybe. My heart's still beating over Michael Bain.

It should. He's a heartthrob. Alright, I'm going to say 11 names. Alright, Sam. Call it dead, bro. I will say 10 names.

You know what? What the hell? Nine. What the hell didn't sound like you were going to say nine. I know. I know. I guess I should just go for it. Nine. You only live once. Nine.

Doug, I hate to ask, may I hear the clues again? Obviously, the category name is giving me nothing. Well, it's... Not the name, but... Two and a half stars from Leonard. Okay. 2012 is the year. It's twist-laden and a bit like Born Light. How many Bourne movies can you name, Jeff?

Well, I guess there was one from the 80s and then all of these other ones. So six. What was the one in the 80s? I think there's two movies called the born identity oh really yeah i didn't know that it might be a mini series yeah so let me change it to five and what was the last one called what's the most ridiculous title of them all jason born oh right but there's also there's ultimatum And what was the last one called? What's the most ridiculous title of them all? Jason Bourne. Oh, right. But there's also, there's Ultimatum. There's Platinum.

There's the Bourne. And there's Antebellum. Yeah, Bourne Antebellum. They changed that one to Bourne A. There's Bourne Yesterday. uh the born a there's born yesterday oh yeah there was uh born to be wild yeah born in east la that's that's my favorite one fish out of water somebody needs to make that born in east LA would be amazing. Where are we at? Whose turn is it? It's on me and I'm racking my brain.

You said nine names, Jeff. Yeah, we're down to nine. All right, I'll say eight names. Man. Man. I think I got a guess. You have a guess of what movie it is? Yeah. Well, then you probably wouldn't need too many names,

but also if it's just a guess, you might want to hear something. Yeah, let's take it down to five names. Sam? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, you know... God damn it. I feel like if I say four, it's not going to help me.

And I have a guess. My confidence level in this case is not high. But if I say four, I don't know. I guess I have room to... Negative two. negative two it's either right or it's not i don't know what to tell you well you could have told us four or three or two or one or zero or negative at that point negative point i'm guessing at that point i'm basically guessing i don't know the movie well

enough to know the bottom two people man so either sam knows this and i lose or i go negative three and i might win or i lose but sam also might not know this those are the four options i mean i don't want to you know butt in or anything but when does sam ever not know it i've absolutely not known it a whole bunch you've gone negative and had the wrong movie yes i i missed up bad when we were playing with john ham and matt bronger i thought hancock 2004 oh man i bet you felt real stupid that is so goddamn dumb what a dummy stupid i'm not i'm not even sure about the year on this movie for the record

i wouldn't i'm not even certain right well the lady doth protest too much i'm just saying all right sam i've played with you enough man negative. Negative three. I'm going to win or lose on my own guess. But Sam might go negative more. Maybe I will too. Now I got to really dig deep on this stupid movie, which I saw one time. Negative three. Boy, the listeners are probably losing their minds oh fucking jeff negative five okay fine

negative five yeah negative five okay okay name it this was this is so stupid god damn turn your camera on sam i want to see you sitting there with the leonard malton book i'd like to see if we can see your face around your huge balls leonard malton book from 1995 that i dug out of storage oh yeah i mean i guess this information's on the internet now but maybe not is there is there a place to access his old reviews without buying a book not to my knowledge yeah all right um okay so if you'd like me to turn on my camera i'm always happy no i'm just kidding so you got you got to go negative five there's no way i'm right about this i mean tell us what the movie's probably not even right

which is going to be the greatest part i'm going to go negative five correctly on the wrong movie well that'll still be fun for us for all. All right. All right, here we go. The movie is Safe House. I'm waiting for laughter. All right. Denzel Washington, Ryan Reynolds. I think it's Vera Farmiga. And then...

Brendan Gleeson and Sam Shepard is the only other person I can remember from that movie you don't remember that Ruben Blattis was in that movie no you don't remember Joel Kinnaman I do not remember

Robert Patrick or Robert Patrick now yeah Tracy Toms was in it too. Yeah. But the five that you said are correct. What? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Turn your fucking camera on, Sam. I'm coming to you. I'm looking in your room. I'm going to find this goddamn book. Let's see it, Sam. All right, it's coming. Here we go. Here we go. Sparko Cam. Please activate

Sparko Cam. That's the thing I feed everything through. Video. Man, I mean, you could have gotten rid of anything yeah I threw it out the window yeah there's a giant

green window behind you what's up Sam is that a Cubs shirt of course it's a Cubs shirt of course it's a Cubs shirt well congratulations Sam you did it you won the title of we can't call you the king of movies because that's Leonard's game, but you're the king of the OG Leonard Maltin game.

Did you know it was Safe House, Jeff? No, I was going to guess the Bourne Legacy. Bourne Legacy. I thought it was Bourne Legacy too too. But I was like, I don't know. I feel like you wouldn't have given that even two and a half stars. I feel like Leonard probably would have given that like one star because he didn't even like the Bourne movies. That's a good point. That was the only reason. And so I was trying to think of like what other action heavy movies were that year.

And I did see Safe House. And I remember it, you know it kind of felt like a born movie i guess if you're leonard malton and then i saw it the one time it was either it was that one born legacy or american ultra he says 2012 leonard says that um leonard says that this movie has a surplus of chase scenes so that's always a a turnoff for Leonard. But he says the two stars are charismatic. But then in the end, he says it's entertainment by bludgeon. That's how I like it. Of course, no one is safe.

No one is house. Thanks for playing, guys. Do you have anything to plug, Sam? Yeah, Immortal. Still on VOD. Check it out. It's a horror anthology of movies centering on immortality. And I'm in one of them.

Watch the movie to find out which is the last one. Oh, skip ahead. I'm going to fast forward, yeah. What do you got to plug,ff the tuesday before this is like a half a plug the tuesday before thanksgiving me and trey gallion are doing stand-up outside in knoxville tennessee at a food truck court there's like a a lot with like four or six food trucks and we're going to be in the middle of those outside. So wear your jacket. Come watch us. I thought it was like food truck court.

Like this taco truck overrules this smoothie truck. I am. What did you say? The fish truck. Where do people go to get tickets? Jeff, you just get tickets there. Like we're not, we're just trying to do. What do you mean there? You just said it's going to be in a parking lot with food trucks. Yeah, yeah.

Where's that? Just come to the show. It's across the street from Central Collective. There isn't really, like, a name from it. Like, if you're in Knoxville, just follow me or Trey on Twitter. What's Central Collective? It's a coffee shop in Knoxville, just follow me or Trey on Twitter. What's central collective. It's a coffee shop in Knoxville.

Okay. So maybe we'll can figure it out from there. Just come to the street from that. I know it's, it's kind of vague, but I've been, I'm under, I'm under the impression that people in Knoxville know, like, know already what I'm talking about. Right. But what if somebody is coming in from out of town? Do a little research figure out where this vague show is they'll probably end up in vegas yeah what is the last uh line in white men Can't Jump. Does anybody know what they say at the end?

I mean, they're talking to each other as they're walking down the street after Gloria left him. Doesn't it switch to the singers? It opens on the singers and it closes on the singers. Yeah, that makes sense. But what about spoken dialogue? Like, what do you think? I think they like, don't they decide to play one-on-one just for fun

i mean it seems like they never did anything just for fun they probably know they're friends at the end jeff don't make me mansplain this to you they're friends at the end and they play the movie ends by them starting to play one-on-one together. I bet their last conversation is about whether or not they listen to or hear Jimi Hendrix. So what do you think? I need a last line to say from either

White Man Can't Jump or another movie. Do either of you have a favorite last line from a movie? That house wasn't safe at all. Let's go with Groundhog Day. We'll rent to start. What is it? He says, let's live here to Andy McDowell as he pulls her over the fence.

And then he takes a beat and he says, we'll rent to start. Okay. Yeah, that's good. All right. We'll rent to start. I don't have anything to start. Okay. Yeah, that's good. All right. We'll rent to start. I don't have anything to plug. Thank you to everybody who came to my show yesterday. And I'll have more stuff coming up.

You can join the Getting Doug with High Patreon at patreon.com slash gettingdoug. Doug, it's $4.20 a month to watch all of our content that we create from a show that's not on YouTube anymore. So please stop asking me about that. It's over on Patreon exclusively. And I apologize for saying stop asking me about it because I don't think anybody listens to Doug Love's movies has been bothering me about it. What else? I think that's it you know follow all the socials oh follow uh doug loves movies on twitter for all the latest uh news about doug loves movies and thanks again to sam and jeff you guys can we schedule a rematch sometime soon absolutely

absolutely yeah that was exciting. I was, you know, I'm always hoping that Jeff's going to pull it off, but Sam is, Sam is keeping the title for now. And as always, we'll rent to start.

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