Doug Loves Movies - Seth Herzog, Anna Roisman and Andy Wood guest

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

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Doug hates candy wrappers screaming baby sticky seeds with 50 as a pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see because Doug. Hey, hey, hey, everybody. My name is Doug and I love movies. This is Doug loves movies, the show that is coming back to American Comedy Company and Sweet Home San Diego for Comic Con for the squillionth time Wednesday, July 22nd at 7.30. And today we are recording on Wednesday, July 8th, 2026.

And my guests have all appeared on the show before, Seth Herzog, Anna Royceman, and Andy Wood. Hello. Hey. Hey, what's up, Doug? Not much. Let's meet them all individually, alphabetically, by first name. He is a comedian at Jeopardy with an exclamation. Mark champion, but now he's doing something entirely different. It's Andy Wood. Hello, thank you for

teeing me up to plug my ska band. Let's get right into your damn plug. Yeah, it's not a joke. It sounds like a joke, but I play trombone in a ska band and we are touring Oregon next week. The band's been around since 91. I just joined two years ago after taking decades off from the instrument, but the band is called the Warsaw Pollen brothers. And it's super fun. I promise, even if you don't think you like Scott, I recommend coming to our shows. How many people you got in that band?

Right now, it's a very reasonable by Scott standards, six. Oh, yeah, that's small by Scott's standards. Yeah, that's... That's why I asked. I thought it would be like 20 people. And do you think by appearing on Doug Love's movies to record,

to plug a tour in Oregon? think people will turn out? I mean, I feel like your Oregon draw, you know, you've been, I was there the first time you performed in Portland. That was 20 years ago. I think you're well entrenched in the Oregon scene. I got to imagine there's some comedy fans who like or tolerate Scott. I'm not sure.

We'll see. I go to a lot of shows just to tolerate them. But I think it sounds fun. So if you show up, you know, the guy with a. trombone if he's just standing around not doing anything uh you know go up to him and say that you heard him on douglo's movies because i'd love i'd love for that to work out i'm just so cynical these days we'll come out you know where people are putting their entertainment dollars yeah we'll see uh july 15th if you're in bend come to double mountain brewing july 17th twilight cafe in

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Yes. Okay. Right on. She was just in Greece, the place, not the musical. It's Anna Royceman. What an intro. I wish I was in the musical. Hi.

Right. Have you ever been in a production of Greece? I have. Yes, in college. What did you play? I played Marty, which is a shocker. I know. Why is that shocking? You know, I think I was a born Rizzo, but

Marty was fun, you know? Did the gal who got to play Rizzo? How did she handle that song or is that song not in the stage show? No, it is. It is. She handled it well. You know, she was a senior. I wasn't, you know, seniority played a part in this as well. Okay, but the movie Greece had come out. Absolutely.

So you were like, I identify with that 40-year-old lady. I did. Yeah, I always do. Still do. I was thinking the other day about, you know, there must be, there's obviously lots of productions of Greece everywhere because it's, you know, it's a licensed musical. But do you think anybody anywhere's put on a production of Greece too? Like just taking the movie script and the songs. They should. And staged it because I think that would be fascinating.

It really would. And if performed correctly, more entertaining than Greece too. Wow. Wow. You know, it's like you saw my, you know, activity today on social media because I was in a comment debate about which has a better soundtrack, Greece one or Greece two. No. Yes, today. This happens to me a lot in my algorithm. And let me tell you, there are the Greece two people out there. They believe that it is better than Greece one. Yeah. They are out there. And I just, you know, I can't hum a single song from it. But I also can't sit through. You know, I haven't seen it enough to even get to. songs in my head because I just don't like it.

When they're bowling at the beginning, I'm like, this is fantastic. This is really carrying the grease torch. And then I don't know what happens after that. A lot. You know, there's a controversial rapy scene. So it does get dark. It gets a little dark. I mean, the original Greece has somebody like little asides that are like, you know, dirty talk.

That's, it's pretty funny. Yeah. He just saw me in New York on his stage. On his show, sweet, it's Seth Herzog. Hey, Seth. Hi, everybody. How are you? I'm so psyched to be here on Zoom with you guys.

I want to cast you in a production of Greece. I would say I did a production of Greece at Camp. You did? Who'd you play? I was a random T-Bird and then also Vince Fontaine, the host of the dance. Oh, that's nice. So you got to dual role there. That's fun.

And Sean Levy was our Danny. No. Movie director, Sean Levy was Danny. Oh, okay. Jonathan Mark Sherman, playwright was duty. That's the role I was going to pick for you. I thought you should have been a good duty. I know.

I'd be a classic duty. I was just unnamed T-Bird. But I will say this. I am a grease to aficionado. I think it is undersold. Better than the first movie? or different. No, but as good.

I mean, Peter Fershett alone is one of the great New York stage actors who's in it, is one of the gang guys. Yeah, he's cool. He's great. He sings, let's do it for our country. He tries to get a girl in bed while saying it's the most patriotic thing to do. That's the borderline scene. Yeah.

Yeah, he's singing, let's do it for our country where he's trying to bed this girl by convincing her it's the only thing you could do for your country. it's kind of funny too if you think of it that way does it work i don't remember i don't think it doesn't almost i think it doesn't work yeah yeah they just talk about it a lot yeah it's a lot of euphemisms and i'm also a ska fan and i'm excited to see andy's band you really make the trip i'm not going to make the trip but i i'm a little bummed that the word ska is not in the title of the band it's really they could have it's the poland brothers Chris and Aaron Poland and they called it Warsaw

at some point then change it to Warsaw, Poland brothers. They could have just done war ska and it would have been done. Yeah, it's right there. It's sitting right there. Yeah. Why would they come on? Maybe just do it in a low key, you know, like you just start saying it all the time, but don't necessarily

change the name. Then the fans will start saying it. Yeah. They'll catch on. Exciting. Well, thank you to all of you for being here today, but before we play some games, I'd like each one of you to recommend one movie, just one, Andy, go.

I started watching this movie last night and thought I was going to just give it 10 minutes and couldn't stop the sheep detectives. Great. Have you talked about that yet? I think it might have come up. I don't know if anybody's given it a flat out recommendation, but I think maybe they have. because it's been around for a minute because it was in theaters for a while

and now you can watch it at home. And like, so 10 minutes in, you're like, I'm in completely. I'm going to watch this whole goddamn thing. Yeah, I mean, it's, I definitely thought it was going to be too cute and it's very cute. And there are some problems.

I'm not sure that Nicholas Braun of Succession fame really has the British accent down, but it's still, it's just fun and hard to turn off. And it's on top of everything else, a decent, who done it. And then crazy looking up Craig Mason's credits afterwards and realizing that he, I guess he's most known for like writing, co-creating Chernobyl, but also he wrote the Harley Williams movie Rocket Man and the hangovers two and three. No, he's got some odd credits that guy because he's been also,

he produces a lot of stuff. And yeah, so he's a, he's just kind of all over the place. But then now he's finally found. Oscar Gold, perhaps, because people are talking to Oscars for this movie. In what category? Talking sheep. Best talking sheep.

No, it's, you know, across the board. Like, Best Picture and Screenplay. I don't know. I don't know about the performances because a lot of it is voiceover, I assume. But, you know, like they're really talking this movie up. Like, yeah, obviously, it's early in the year. So it's still, who knows if it'll

make it to the finish line. Just like this movie that invite the Seth Rogen Olivia Wilde movie is getting that kind of hype like, oh, this is Academy stuff? And I'm just like, is a four-person comedy drama that feels like a play? Is that really going to be a consider of the Oscars six months from now? We'll have to wait and see because it is good. Okay. I liked it.

But sheep detectives. How long is sheep detectives? Is it tight? Pretty tight. Yeah, that's also why I kept at it. I was just like, well, this is not going to make me. It's not that long, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just, there's, you know, there's movies that come out,

mostly like war movies and historical epics and biographies that I, you know, really get into that, like, ugh, I just, it feels like going to school or homework, you know. I just, like, dread going. And I strangely, that feels. hit me with sheep detectives for some reason. And I think it might be because I don't enjoy the Wallace and Gromit movies as much as the world does. Yeah, this does seem a little Wallace and Gromit adjacent. Yeah, it's a little like kind of that vibe.

And I'm just like, okay, it's cute, but I don't know if I can do it. But I'm going to try thanks to you, Andy. Now, in fact, if you don't like Wallace and Gromit, do not watch this movie. The more thing about it is it's very. I don't dislike Wallace and Gromit. I just find it like, you know, Tweed. You know, I just find it like, like, I think it's cute, but it's not, there's not enough going on there for me. I'm finding that with animation in general.

Like, it's harder for me to find animated or kids movies that I'm down with, which I shouldn't be necessarily because they're for kids. But the sheep detectives, the talk is that, you know. It's pretty sweet. But it's not just for kids. You know, like adults are praising it. I'll say my kids, he loved it. And I've seen it twice now. And you like it, or you just, it's terrible.

No, I find it very charming. And I found the cleverest part of it is that the sheep figure out the murder before the police do. So the challenge of the movie is the sheep have to show the police what the evidence is and who did it without obviously communicating in English to them. Yeah. have to like push them towards the murder weapon exactly so that's kind of a clever part is the sheep figure it out and then they're like the humans are too stupid to figure it out all right well i i'm gonna give it a try anna you gonna try it um maybe after andy took his took it back to for you i was like oh okay maybe i will yeah but

Seth came through with uh i'm telling you my girls loved it they love it they want me to we've recreated several scenes from the movie in our bedroom. It's been a big part of our life here. I also worry, though, that as soon as I see a few sheep, I'll start counting them and then fall asleep. Okay, Anna, what's your recommendation? Oh, man, I just fell asleep during a big movie, so I can't recommend that in the theater.

That's a skill of mine. I think a lot of us are good at it and embarrassed by it, but now that you brought it up, I'm dying to know what the movie was. I'm going to disclose your day it, but I fell asleep. You know, some, some may say jet lag. Some may say it was the movie. I don't know. I think it's a sweet-ass combo of the two because this is, Disclosure Day is another one that I'm like,

how can I possibly skip a Spielberg movie? Yeah. I just don't feel like his movies have spoken to me in maybe decades. You know, like, I just am not fully on the train like a lot of cinephiles are. Yeah. And so this one I've been kind of putting off for that very reason because I just feel like, you know, he's going to try to ratchet up the tension and everything. But I just don't know what there is to be scared of because it's not a movie where aliens are going to show up and start ripping people's heads off. No.

You haven't seen it yet. It's just all talk. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's got some great sequences. I shouldn't review a movie I haven't seen. But, you know, I'm sure it's got a lot about it that I would like, but it feels like, especially when there's so many things I want to see and things I want to do that I feel like I do the same thing. I think I get a reclining seat and then not make it through the, through the whole degree.

Yeah. Okay. So what do you want to actually recommend? Okay. Can I recommend a documentary that I recently watched? Yeah. Guys, maternal instinct on Netflix. Have you seen this?

No. Oh my God. I was on a plane watching it. I forgot I was flying. That's how into it I was. It was so fucked up. It is a crazy, crazy story. Takes place in like a small town in Texas about this woman who,

I don't want to give it all away, but let's just say she somehow has a baby on the side of the road. and then and then the story unfolds. Wow. It's really fucked up. And maybe you've heard the story. Maybe you know the story because I don't think of that. What does she do with the baby?

Well, the baby is not alive, I should say. Oh. But. And then the whole family and friends come out and explain that she actually is unable to carry a child. so it gets crazy. Correct. Well, yeah. It gets crazy.

You have to see this movie. Oh, I like this twist. I was one of those, I was like on the plane. I'm like asking strangers. I'm like, have you seen this shit?

Have you seen this movie? It was psychotic. All right. And it's on Netflix? Yeah, it was like number one or two, like last week or something. I'm sure. I mean, they love that kind of shit.

Yeah. Netflix. Sure. They love that shit. Weird ass, baby. They love exploiting crazy people. Right. And it's like the movie, like a few minutes into it, if you're like, oh, this is crazy,

you know it's not going to stop being crazy because that's not how documentaries work. They film until they got something good and then they put that out. You know what I mean? Like they continued following this story, obviously, because it just stays that good. Yeah. And if it's that good, it'll be three episodes. This is just a one movie. Well, that's nice.

I don't really like the, I'm not really into these episodic docks because it's just kind of like, well, I feel in most cases, they have to stretch the material to do like an eight-hour series or even a three-hour one. You know, like it's sometimes these things should just be told in one 90-minute sitting. Yeah. I think you'll like it. It's fucked up. Well, speaking of 90 minutes sitting, Seth, what is your... I don't know what that is.

You know, it's funny. Disclosure Day was the last thing I saw in the theater. How'd that go for you? I was, well, I was at the premiere, so it was kind of exciting. Yeah. But I was telling myself, I was convincing myself that this movie was good the whole time. I was like, this is pretty good, right? This is pretty good.

It's pretty good, right? I mean, it's interesting. It's compelling. Did it work? I don't. I didn't hate it, but I wasn't like that was the greatest thing I've ever seen. I think I'd really like it if I was

sitting on my couch in the middle of the night and I discovered it. I'd like, this is great. But like, if you're expecting a lot, you'd be like, it's pretty interesting. Yeah, I mean, right there in the title, they're like implying that something serious is going to be disclosed by the end

of business. The idea, it's a fight. The whole movie is the fight of whether people trying to expose the truth and the government's trying to stop them. That's really... Yeah. No, that's the thing. It feels...

I love Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It's an absolute classic. It made me the Spielberg fan I am today along with, you know, Jaws and Raiders. But I just don't need more of like running around all the government's trying to stop me from telling people this information or whatever. Like, it just seems like more the same of that.

which Spielberg himself says this is like the end of his of a trilogy to him of close encounters at E.T. and I just feel like I'd rather I'd probably be better off just going back and watching the other two on the big spoon because I haven't seen I haven't seen E.T. And maybe a decade or two. And I wonder how that feels. I will say this though. If I can recommend a TV show. No. Okay, I'm not going to do it then. Go ahead and do it.

But we'll let's move on. Willow, Widow, Widow Bay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It actually is like a movie that show. It's like it's like a thriller, but there's lots of comedy. It's filled with, it's filled with L.A. comics. And I didn't think I'd like it at first.

I was like, I'm not going to like this. I have not stopped thought of thinking about it. Like, I can't stop thinking about it. It's amazing. The Emmy nominations came out today, and it got a shit ton of them. It deserves it. Almost every act. actor in it. And there's some, there's some

actors that I've always rooted for and always love like that lady Dale Dickie is great. She got a nomination. Stephen Root got a nomination. Oh, nice. Everyone's at the top of the game. It's so thrilling and funny. And like, you can't wait for the next

episode. It's just really well done. It has some actual laugh out loud joke jokes in the script that surprise me. Really, like, every episode has like two or three really funny bits. But it's mostly not a comedy, but just like shockingly. like that's hilarious. Yeah, it's weird how it manages to be both creepy and funny.

That's a hard line to walk, especially in a TV series. So we'll see how getting lots, getting picked up for more episodes, how that's going to affect it. I hope that quality continues. But this show could have, to me, could have been one that had like an actual ending at the end of the season, like a limited series instead of an ongoing series. But, you know, they want to, They want these shows to go and go,

except for Netflix who wants the shows to stop. Because once people have seen it, Netflix wants to give them something else. But what's your recommendation, though, Seth? Oh, film-wise? Yeah, because you didn't recommend Disclosure Day. No, I didn't. I don't think we should see that.

I haven't, let's move on. I don't have one that I'm like, I'm super excited about. It's okay. I guess so. There's no feature that I'm like, you have to go see this. In the history of cinema. I thought within the last few months or something.

Oh, no, no, no. It could be, you know, my other guests are timely, but it doesn't have to be. Oh, I thought it was more recent. No, it's just any movie from any time. You know, I like it to be something people can access, not something that's... I love Fendango is one of my favorite movies, and it's kind of on song. I think it's a perfect film. I think it is

Kevin Costner's best work. Yeah. Certainly Judd Nelson's best. I agree. But man, what a fun movie. Do you know about the genesis of that movie? Well, they did that airplane scene first, right? Yeah, they did.

It was a short first. Yeah. And, you know, and I think the movie ended up being produced. by Spielberg's company, right? Amblin? I think they did, yes. I think so. And with that movie, the movie in the center is what really made, you know, the whole thing worked. The whole movie's great. I love the whole thing.

But the part in the center is an amazing sequence. Yes. And then, of course, that director is the, you know, gentleman that went on to, you know, be a big director. And then he was brought down again by Waterworld. That's what I thought I was going to say. that's the Waterworld guy.

Right? Yeah, Kevin Reynolds. Yeah. But Fandangle, boy, is it a good movie? And speaking of something to turn on, that's not long and just engaging the whole time and then it's over. Like, it's really... I saw it at the perfect time. I had never seen it.

And I was in college, and I just done the road trip with my friends. And they were talking about the whole time. And I'm like, I don't know what the movie you're talking about. That as soon as we got back to school from that road trip, they sat me down and watched it. And I was like, this is perfect. It's about a college road trip. And it's just really well done. Yeah.

And just like, because it's, you know, ends up having the tension and editing of actual like action movie. Yeah. But it's a, you know, it's pretty much a light comedy

for the most part. And, and Kevin Costner as like this cocky, like, you know, kind of like Tim Matheson in an animal house or something. Yeah.

Where it's like, I've never seen him play that level of cocky ever again. I've seen him play dicks. But I haven't seen him play. Like a lovable cocky. Charming and cocky. And it's also like this whole level of like the Vietnam War and who's going to go and who's

going to dodge the draft and who's going to get married and like all the stuff that you think's going to happen and then it all changes by the end of the film. It's just great. Like making real life decisions when you're 20, you know. Yeah. All in the sense of this road trip. Now I want to, now I'm more interested in watching Fandango again than these new movies that have been brought to my attention because I just, that's.

what happens is I just like especially Anna was talking about on a plane I'd be unlikely to try maternal instinct because I'll just scroll through until I find something that I've seen so much that it's insanely comforting but also also I know how far into the flight we are if I dose off and wake up I'll be like oh well they're on this scene so that means we got this much time don't worry Doug I didn't watch mama Mia on the I watched Mamma Mia 1, yeah. I could watch that over and over again because it's like such a great mix of talented singing and terrible singing.

Well, those are great. Great job, everybody. I probably spent too much time on this segment, but those are all interesting recommendations, and I probably will be seeing all three of them. We will be right back after these, messages. Today's episode is brought to in part by Shopify.

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Is It? In this game, I name a thing, and then you have to guess how long it is. Closest to the correct answer without going over is the winner, Price is right style. We'll go again with the alphabetical Andy, Anna, and then Seth. That must not happen to you much, Anna, that if it's alphabetical by first name, somebody squeaks in ahead of you. It's okay. I'm dealing with it.

That damn, Andy. He still will be heavy if it was Andrew also, by the way. All right. So, Andy, you're going to guess first. You're going to give me a number. In minutes, the length of Tom Hanks' Oscar-nominated performances that did not go on to win the Oscar combined. The run times of those films combined. So I don't know if you want to do the work in your first.

head or if you want to say it out loud. So a movie where he got an acting nomination. But did not win. That's happened a few times. And then you add up the running times of those movies in minutes, how many minutes do you think that would be. So he's got two wins. I'm going to guess he has three other nominations, maybe like castaway. Was he in Bridges Spies?

I'm going to guess three movies that are probably longer than they need to be. So let's go with, if they're each, 6, 285 minutes. All right. Anna. What do you think? I'm going to go with. 618.

I love it. I love it. All right. The big gap in between. Yeah, I'm going to say 520. 520 minutes. What? 520 minutes.

Oh, I thought you just said 20. I was like, what? Yeah. Yeah, they're all shorts. So you say 500 and 20 minutes. Is the total of the other films where he was nominated, but didn't win? Yes. All right. Your guesses are locked in. This is very exciting. Because Tom Hanks did not win four times.

Four, dang it. Four times. Yeah, you had four movies that he got nominated but did not win for best actor. and they are or no, just nominated and didn't win. It doesn't matter which category, I guess, because you got nominee for support for a big, beautiful, not big, a beautiful day in the neighborhood

starring the guy who stars in Widows. Yeah. What's it called? Widows what? Peak Bay. Willows Bay. Yeah.

So we got out of beautiful. beautiful day in the neighborhood. And of course, Big, his first nomination and passed away and saving private life. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. But here's a funny side note. I was watching an interview with Spielberg yesterday or a clip, I should say, where somebody pointed out to him, somebody said to Spielberg that they just go, are you aware of the fact

that one of the most popular movie parody porn titles is shaving Ryan's privates. And not only did Spielberg laugh, but he seemed a little excited about it. Yeah, I bet. But also previously unaware of it. And you just think that the man's never around any kind of wordplay.

Like, he's never... It feels to me like one of the oldest jokes. Yeah. Like how he has never evaded... him? No one's ever said that to him his whole life. I guess people are afraid to say it that

to him or something. Maybe. I don't know. But yeah. I hope he went home and watched it. Yeah. Yeah. He's just too classy or something.

I don't know. But it was funny because he, he had like a pleased reaction. Like he didn't act like annoyed or anything, but he also. Do you think he went home and rewrote every title of his catalog? Yeah. He just went through and said,

oh, how can I make? Well, big is good on itself. Big works by itself. Yeah. But, yeah, you could really, you could go through them all. And he only produced it, but another classic is the Poonies. But let's look at the numbers. That's a German release, correct?

Yeah, let's look at the numbers. Big was 104 minutes. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood was 109. Kastaway was 143. And saving Private Ryan was 169 minutes. Ooh, this is right in the cusp, isn't it? So Andy was under and Anna was over and Seth is off under, so he wins by five minutes. Nice.

Close. I love it. 520. It was his bid and it's 525. Oh, my God. I really know my lengths of movies. That was very impressive. I just can't believe he didn't get nominated for nothing in common.

which is the Jackie Gleason. Yeah, you joke around, but it's not a bad movie. No, I'm joking around because it's one of my favorites. Oh. I love it. And opening, cracking shot is amazing. Well, you know the scene where, you know, early in the movie, Tom Hanks is giving a tour to a bunch of, like, where does he work out? He's like a journalist.

Advertising. He's a big advertising. Yeah, he works in an ad agency. So he's given a bunch of young people tour. You know, he gives them a little speech. about how advertising works, and he's in a good mood, and he's nice to them.

Then later in the movie, when he's in a bad mood, but he has to talk to these kids, he picks up a little, like a little person, you know, like a paper doll version of a person's body, and then he cuts the head off of it.

You know, he says something like, you know, it's a vicious business kids, and then he cuts the head off of the paper dog. I'm in that scene. Oh, nice. I'm going to go back and watch that now.

That's amazing. Yeah, I'm just standing there looking sad that he did that. Oh, that's so cool. Like, what was that about? I love it. You're the Tom Hanks classic. Yeah. I'm in some genuine classics and that one.

But I haven't seen it in a while, but I do remember thinking it was good. I thought it was a good movie. It's a great movie. It's just too dark for people to love. People are like just too dark for him. Yeah. All right, dudes and lady. We're going to take another break. We'll be right back after this. We're back a dinosaur's story. And Seth,

they're killing it, man. You get to go first in our next game. That's what you win. Nice. That last game. But also, Andy, I got a math question for you. Just a games question for you. Because last time I played this game with the running time totals like that, like it just became a situation where somebody could just basically do like on prices, right, and dollar the person ahead of them. Like if you say 385 to risk not going to getting higher but not going, you know,

getting closer but not going over, somebody could say 386. Oh, right. And that sort of takes the fun out of the game because they're not really trying. they're just betting that that's going to be more than 385. Which would have been the right move purely strategically for Seth, right? Well, for Anna, I could have done that. And Seth, knowing the actual answer really helped him a lot. Sure.

He just came in the hot with the right number. Well, anyway, so I, that's, it's, for the listeners get it, but every time I say it's trying to play how long is it, it's always something about Tom Hanks. And I'm really running out of things to discuss about Tom Hanks and how long we are. But Seth gets to go first. All right. And our final and determining a game today. Okay.

And it's a game that I call Viva Las Vegas movies. I love it. Lots of movies have been made in and about Vegas. But those movies, they do not stay in Vegas. We see them and they become classics or noted minors. misfires or whatever. But I wrote down the top 10

quote unquote Vegas movies according to those nerds at Letterbox. So letterbox people, you know, they rate all the movies and Letterbox took all the Vegas ones and made a top 20 list

and I wrote down the top 10. I wrote them all down, but the top 10's all Is it top 10 ones that made money or this? It's not. box office it's just the ratings on letterbox like you know the aggregate of what people are rating a movie that takes place in or is about Vegas or has a heavy Vegas element to it so set you're going to guess first and if you guess a movie that's in the top 10 you'll get the points associated how many guesses do I have

you'll get three total but you're going to take turns you'll guess first And if that movie's in the top 10, if it's number one, you get 10 points. If it's number 10, you get one point. And then there's a bunch of points in between. And then after you do your first guess, Anna will do one, then Andy, and then we go through three times.

Okay. Until you've all had three guesses, and then we tally up the scores from your answers. Okay. So don't, yeah, sometimes people get excited. They start blurting out several movies that would qualify, but you don't want to give any away.

if somebody else isn't thinking on it. So what's your first stab, Seth, that what you think is the most popular movie according to the letterbox that is Vegas, a Vegas movie. Casino.

I mean, that comes right to mind, right? Makes perfect sense. Yeah. It's the De Niro, what's his name, Pesci? Come on. Yeah, yeah. No, it's, I hate the part where Pesci hits Don Rickles in the head with a phone.

Yep. James Woods. I know it's a foam phone, but it's still the great Nichols. At a very old age, getting heat up. But yes, Seth, that is number two on the list. Good deal.

Nine points. Nice. Nice start, but it's still anybody's being. Not number one. Anybody can win, especially Anna. She,

loves Vegas. Okay. And Vegas movies. I like Vegas movies more than Vegas. Yeah. You only lose the cost of admission in the movie. Yeah. Vegas, you lose

a lot of things. Okay. I'm going to go with it's probably not number one, but you know, my brain only has so many. I'm going to go with The Hangover. Ooh.

Good get. Very good. Yeah. Hangover. Very big, very big Vegas movie. And especially like with the whole, you know, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. It's like the whole plot of them having all this photographic evidence of all this terrible shit that happened. And that is number three on the list. So Anna comes out swinging eight points, only one behind Seth.

Wow. I didn't think that'd be that far enough. it's yeah I you know you you threw it out there and it is a huge hit movie yeah like it was big enough to they had a big enough excuse to try two more times they're like oh let's go to Thailand that'll be wacky these guys getting fucked up in Thailand yeah people are like oh that wasn't as fun as Vegas then they're like oh let's go back to Vegas it was like too late let's get some sheep detectives on this case. If only they had a couple of sheep detectives.

Andy, do you smell sequels for the sheep detectives? You know what? I hadn't even thought of that until you said it, but yes. Yeah. Right. We're just going to get sheep detective for the rest of our lives. They set it up for another film. Yeah. They have to these days.

Okay. Andy. I'm glad we've broken the seal on movies that don't have Vegas in the title because I was initially worried about that being a limiting factor and since it's not I hoping number one is Ocean's 11 oh because you thought that all the titles should have Vegas in then well I just didn't I'm glad I didn't go first because I might have been restricting myself to that unnecessarily right yeah because I have played

games where it's like name them you know these are the top 10 movies with you know something in the title like Vegas but no this is just famous set movies. And of course, Oceans 11 is number one. Whoa. That was my other guess. Yeah. That was

number one. People loved that. That movie is so watchable because the stakes are really never that high. And the music's always going shh-d-d-ch. So I enjoyed a lot. Again, with the sequels in Oceans 8,

is diminishing returns, but I like the idea of those movies in general. This is a close game. Seth, I've got to do his name another one now that's in there and get some more points and you'll move back into the lead again. I'm going to say leaving Las Vegas,

the Nick Cage Alcoholic movie. Yeah, which is, is that a spoiler? Does he leave by the end of it? Or does he die there? I forget. I think he dies. I think he dies in Vegas. Yeah.

Well, yeah, that has one way out. It's a, yeah, but it's such a critically acclaimed hit. I figure it might be on that top, top 10 list. Yeah, Nicholas Cage won his only Oscar for the auction picture. And it's number eight on the list. Okay, all right. Yeah, so not bad for Seth, another three points. So Anna has to get another one of these to move ahead of set.

and Andy. Okay. I hope this is on the list because it's one of my all-time favorite movies. I'm going to go with Vegas vacation. All right. Hang on a second. Andy's moaning. No, that was a good moan.

That was like, I think you're going to do well with that. Oh, yeah, he's sad that you took a good one from him. What is it about that one that you like? Is it your favorite of all the vacation movies? I don't know, you know, I was at an when that came out, I was at an age where I really like could understand the comedy and I love the actor who plays the son

who plays Rusty. What's his, I forget his name right now. I think it's different in each film. Right, yeah. Yeah, they changed it up a bit, but I think that was that might have been a lively like Eric lively. Maybe. I think maybe. I just, I don't know, it cracked me up. I always

loved it. Like when it's on TV, I'll leave it on, you know? I like the whole Wayne Newton's scene. I think it's so funny. that like I think you saw it for the first time under optimal conditions you know like being young or whatever because I don't remember liking it at all

I've hardly revisited it but my two fun stories related to it are when I saw it I saw a matinee in a long dead movie theater on Hollywood Boulevard but it was a theater that was still showing movies at that time and I thought it was so weird

that at the matinee, Crispin Glover, and his dad sat in the very middle of the very front row, and it was a theater where the screen was way too close to the front row, so I thought they were absolute lunatics. Wait, I do that, Doug. I love the front row when there's room, when there's an appropriate amount of space between the seats and the screen. When the screen's right there and you have to crane your neck, I don't like that. But also, yeah, with the reclining seats, the front of the room,

front row is better too now because you can, you know, just lean back and it's less strain on the neck. But but then the other thing is, I don't know how many years later, but the man who directed Vegas vacation backed up into my car in a parking lot and, and, and didn't have insurance and never, I never got any money from him for it. What? Oh my God. I'm like, did you direct Vegas vacation? That's insane. not a name we would know? Yeah, the guy who directed Vegas vacation.

He also directed, I wish I knew his name off hand, but he's directed a few things, and he's a nice guy, and it's just one of those things where, you know, he was like, oh, can we settle this? And I was like, I just didn't want to take the time to even get the dent, pounded out, and the paint job and all that, you know,

because it was just a dent in the side door. And also, in Los Angeles, if you have a dent in your car, it's kind of like, I might as well believe this, because, you know, why make, it's a chance to make the car less desirable, you know, for, you know, thieves and whatnot. But you would get at stoplights, I'd get people who pull up and roll their window down

and get me to roll my window down. And they'd be like, I can, you know, pound that out for you for like 50 bucks. You know, they'd like offer to fix it. That happened a lot. And apparently if you're a girl with a car that's got a dent, you get that constantly. The, you know, people trying to ask you if they can fix it for you. that's crazy so as I was a dude

it's happened less often but it still happens people are out there you know trying to make a buck guys just like to say to girls

can I pound that for you that's all you're great influence on your seven year old daughters they're not a year they listen to this show but now it's bugging so much what the guy's name is

because I you know uh I have to take a quick peek and see what it is. I generally don't look things up during the show because it not only slows things down, but also it's like cheating in a way. His name is Stephen Kessler,

and he went on to make a movie that I enjoy very much that I would recommend to people about the great Paul Williams. He made a doc about Paul Williams called Still Alive. That was back in 2011. 11, like 15 years ago that that came out. Paul Williams is still alive? He's still still alive and does voice.

There's just lots of voiceovers. And yeah, the guy is really amazing. And he also goes around, you know, doing his... Hitting cars. Talking to people about how to, you know, get up the not alcoholics and drug addicts and all that fun stuff that he was in the 70s. Yeah. Anyway, I'm sorry.

I tend to... ramble like this when somebody has a good guess that doesn't get any points. Oh, no. Yeah, because it is a good guess, but it according to letterbox, it's the 18th best.

Oh. Vegas movie, but you're still in this, Anna. Okay. Let's go to Andy. So this makes me change my strategy because this is not the, like, the most Vegas movies. This is the best Vegas movies. Because I was kind of thinking

it's like the most quintessentially Vegas movies. So you don't mess with Letterbox at all? Not really, no. No, they have, you know, when you write a review, everybody gets to be a critic on there. When you write your review, you can rate it one to five stars. So, you know, I don't know the star ratings on these, but Ocean's 11, it's probably like, the average is probably like four or something. And same with casino and it, you know, comes down as you go. But it is, it is based on the reviews of people that participate in Letterbox.

Okay, given that, I'm going to do one, I think is well reviewed, but maybe only has 20 minutes of Vegas in it, but is considered a very Vegas movie, I think, I hope, which is swingers. That's the great guest. Fan favorite, probably. That is a really good guest, baby. No, it's not on there, is it? No, it's not on there. 15, came in at 15. Ooh, 15.

But you're right. You know, that is an interesting thing to take into account. is the classic Vegas sequence. Even though it's not the whole movie, it's a big part of it. Yeah, yeah. So that was enough for Letterbox

to decide that it is a Vegas movie. There's one, and I'll tell you about it later. There's one movie on here that no one's ever going to guess because it doesn't take place in Vegas at all. What? Yeah,

but I know why, I think I know why it landed on this list. But, uh, sorry Andy that was not worth any points so that means Seth is still in the lead but just by you know do I make another guess four points so yeah you get one more

to solidify your place this is stab in the dark rain man also a movie that they're like let's go to Vegas and they go to Vegas but it's even referenced in swingers yeah so it really should It should be there, but this is going to be an exciting finish to this game today because Raymond is not worth any points because it finished 11th.

Oh, come on. Yeah. So you were right there. It was a good instinct, but it wasn't quite enough. Now Anna needs to tell me the fourth, fifth or sixth highest rank, Vegas news. You know, I can't think outside the box like you both about movies that go to Vegas. So I'm going back to the list in my brain of movies with Las Vegas in the title. And I'm going to go with fear and loathing in Las Vegas.

Good one. Excellent. Excellent. Number four. Oh, my God. So it does help sometimes just going with the name. Can I ask a question? Whatever popped into your head.

Can I ask if another film was on the top, the top 10 that I was going to do on bailed on? Well, wait until Andy still gets one more gas. You don't want to give him anything. Because Andy could win this whole thing right now if he can name pretty much just the number five movie would be a win for him. The number six movie, he would tie it up.

man I just don't remember if this stands the test of the time but I liked it a lot and it's got baby Bruno Mars in it let's go honeymoon in Vegas that's what I was gonna say um honeymoon in Vegas was the weirdest one of the weirdest Broadway shows I've ever seen I bet because it's just not it wasn't it didn't need to be turned into a Broadway show I didn't even know they made it a show Rob McClure played the uh Nicholas Cage part. Another known actress played the Sarah Jessica Parker. I want to say maybe like

Rebecca Luca or somebody like that. Maybe Kelly O'Hara. And then Tony Danza played the James Conn role. Nice. And he tappedance. So you're like already like, well, the guy's tap dancing. I like him better than the guy

that doesn't tap dance. I want the woman to end up with him. Just Andy plus he's Tony Danza. All right. But I I do like Rob McClure a lot. I think that's the main reason I saw that show. But sorry. Sorry, it did not make even the top 20.

What? Yeah, I don't think it's a movie that people regard. Didn't even make top 20. Yeah. Wow, I'm shocked. Yeah. That's weird. And it was made into a Broadway show.

Yeah. It was popular enough. You'd think, yeah. I mean, it was also, it was kind of like the Broadway people were like a little too far behind on it. Because when the movie came out and had all those flying elvices, the parachuting elvices, it was like, ha ha, I get it. Elvis is a big fixture. Weddings in Vegas. And isn't that cute that they're all skydiving? But, you know, all these years later, people couldn't be moreover anything, Elvis. How did they do the parachuting elvases in the theater?

You know, that's the thing is they just have to, like, have like a dumb little plane that's, you know, way in the background and you see something fall out of it. And then the guy comes running on stage with his parachute. Oh. I thought they would make a big spectacle of holding their parachutes. Yeah. It would have been a spectacular opportunity. I thought they'd parachute in from the rafters or something. Yeah.

Whatever they did was like so not, I was so not impressed by it that I don't remember. I remember that wicked No Okay So I'm going to give you all the Everybody wants to know what all the movies are that didn't get Yeah Didn't get named

But for now I have to declare Anna our winner And Anna And Anna gets to Name who would you like me to call a shithead at the end of the show A shithead? Yeah It could be people out in your personal life, people in politics, celebrities.

Oh, wow. Anybody, a group of people, anybody that you think is a shithead. But you don't have to stand behind it because I'm the one that has to say it. Okay. I don't know. Trump. Mitch McConnell. Shout out, Ms. McConnell.

Oh, my God. kicking a man when he's dead allegedly the ghost of Mitch McConnell you can shot him out oh okay okay

he's still alive isn't he well we're not sure I think are debatable you haven't been watching the news the last few days

yeah I have but I didn't know that he had oh well I mean I was a guess also the stupid news media isn't really covering to the point that they should because he's been in hospital since June 14th with no credible evidence that he's still alive or speaking or can do

anything. So it's been long enough now that it feels like it's a tactic. It feels like they're just trying to delay the announcement of his death until after August 3rd when that's a cutoff for when somebody can, you know, they'll have to have a runoff for his seat. So like you're basically trying to make it so they'll just appoint a Republican receipt, I think. And the threads are great. People are like, hey, Mitch McConnell called me yesterday. I was like, well, that's the other thing is some Dick had on CNN, whose name I'm not going to say, he, because he's always just on their line and being stupid, he said that he had

yesterday, he said he had a 20-minute phone call with McConnell. So now everybody on threads is just making their jokes about what kind of phone call they had with Mitch McConnell. He came into my restaurant He called about ordering a steak, medium rare Yeah, people are really going crazy with it Because it's just like so It's so insane

And I'm sorry to bring it up on Douglas movies We try not to dwell on politics But it's just so crazy right now That this guy is potentially He's either Basically they're saying he's either brain dead or dead He's one or the other Like you know

But they don't want to take him off life support if he's brain dead and if he's dead dead they don't want to admit it to us because if he's because if he's okay he could they could even say this text is from him they won't even do that like you know this right or whatever i think they should the kentucky legislature should say we're going to have a runoff and have a new person anyway no matter what he's not going back well that's what some people there are trying to make happen but of course you know it's all it's all so hard to uh yeah to move the needle on something where people can just say, well, he's not dead.

Who said he's dead? He's not dead. So they're going to have to sneak a person into that hospital and take a picture. No, that's the thing. It's like, what are investigative reporters doing these days? Like, this is the best story to crack. Nobody seems to be doing it. They're just talking about, you're basically spreading internet rumors.

We need a fleet of fletches sneaking into that hospital. Yes. Get a hat. Make a funny name. Yes. Yes. Make a fake badge for the hospital. No, we just need those sheep detectives.

Come on. We need some sheep in there to investigate this. Okay. We got to go really quick here now, but Anna, do you want to plug anything? You could just find my stupid, silly videos on Instagram and TikTok. Love it. Anna Royceman, R-O-I-S-M. Thank you, Anna.

Thank you. We'll have you back to do that non-to- begin sometime soon as a returning champion. Yay. But quickly, I just thought it's interesting even the second 10. So I'm going to start at number 20. This is a James Bond movie Diamonds Are Forever. Oh, yeah. Lots of Vegas action in that one.

It's a pretty fun part of that movie, actually. Another movie that says, hey, let's go. to Vegas and then they go is called go. Okay. That's number 19. Yeah. Number 17 is

Godfather part one. Yeah. I don't know. Part two. Part two is when they... I don't know how much of Godfather one is in Vegas, but it doesn't seem like it would be much.

Yeah. Number 16 is Oceans 13. And then we mentioned Springer's already. 14 was the magician's robbing stuff movie Now You See Me Oh now you see me

That's a good one There's number 13 There's some Vegas business in Mars attacks Okay But here's the one that I don't get at all Paul Thomas Anderson's first movie Hard 8 Isn't that in Reno?

It's set in Reno Yeah Oh I know it's about gambling Yeah There's a lot of gambling in it So I guess they're just like Their brains are just like

So that means Vegas. And 10 was Rain Man. And then there's some weird ones here in the top 10. I don't, I feel like you could have gotten one or two of these, maybe, but probably not. Number 10 is Blade Runner 2049, which I guess it had some Vegas stuff in it. Austin Powers International Man on Mysteries, number nine, eight, we already said leaving Las Vegas. Seven is where Godfather part two landed. And number six.

You know, there's no accounting for taste. It is a fascinating movie. Showgirls. Wow. Yeah. So those letterbox people, they like it for its... It's a fan favorite. Campiness or whatever.

I mean, it's, you know, there's a lot of the technical aspects of it are actually quite good, you know. It's cinematography and stuff, but it's a weird movie. And then this one's another one where they're like, let's go to Vegas. And then they go to Vegas, but I don't think of it as a Vegas movie. And that's the recent best picture winner, Anora. What? Weird. Did they ever go to Vegas and Anora?

I guess for a little bit. Yeah, they do. They all go there because, you know, they are trying to chase the couple down. But then they dragged them back to wherever they started. Right. Right at the beginning. Yeah, yeah, at the beginning. I guess they go.

But imagine having a movie night and big. We're going to watch a Vegas movie night, guys. Oh, which one? Anora. Like, yeah. That's more like a rock. A Wacoway Beach movie. Classic Vegas movie.

So anyway, to recap the top four was Fear and Loading in Las Vegas, the hangover casino, and Oceans 11. So we'll see if I rely on the letterbox folks for another game format because they do have some interesting choices. Seth Herzog, what would you like to plug? First of all, I want to plug. I want to turn on my camera just for you guys. My daughter wanted to be seen, and now she's running out the door. She's getting the heck out of there. But she literally was insisting, insisting I put the camera on

so people could see her. And then as soon as I did, she ran out the door. Yeah. Good. Plugs. Doug did my sweet show last week. The next one is July 21st at the Stand West, which is the old Chelsea Music Hall. I'm also doing a series of shows in Montauk.

The first one, I think, is July 18th at Saturday night at the Crow's Nest Cafe by the Lighthouse. So come to that if you're out there. And that's with Salvo Cano and Alex Moppetch would be really fun. Oh, right on. Yeah. Nice. Andy Wood, let's hear about that ska band again. Yeah, that name is Warsaw, Poland Brothers.

So follow them on Spotify, where you can also see upcoming shows, including July 17th in Portland at Twilight Cafe. And again, July 19th in Portland at Alberta Street Pub with some other Oregon dates you can find online. I want to go. That sounds sounds super fun. I'm going to be doing Douglas Movies on Wednesday, July 22nd.

The night for Comic-Con begins in San Diego down at the American Comedy Company down there like I do every year and you can go to Douglasmovies.com for more stuff that I have coming up on the road

in the fall. And the next Benson movie interruption in Los Angeles is on Tuesday, August 3rd, Dynasty typewriter. Thanks again to Seth Herzog, Anna Roisman, and Andy Wood. What a fun show.

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