Doug Loves Movies - Vanessa Guerrero, Joe Lynch and Taylor Morden guest

Episode Date: December 14, 2020

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Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming babies, sticky seats with 50 ads and popcorn kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies. Hey everybody, my name is Doug and I love Mondays. This is Doug Loves Movies coming to you near the end of this most violent year with another Homes Alone edition. It's Sunday, December 13th, 2020. And my guests today are Vanessa Guerrero, Joe Lynch, and Taylor Morden. Hello, everybody. Hi. Hello. Let's meet them individually and alphabetically, starting with comedian, writer, first-time guest, Vanessa Guerrero is here. Hello, Vanessa.

Hi. Thank you so much for having me on. I am excited to have you here. I've been enjoying your tweets, and I like how in your bio, you're a self-described horror dork. Big one, a big old horror dork. And you have a podcast about horror and martial arts movies called appropriately enough, kicking and screaming. Thank you. Yeah. We actually came up with the name before the podcast. We were just like standing in line at Trader Joe's waiting to go in. We're like, oh, kicking and screaming. That sounds like a fun thing for horror and martial arts. And then we just came up with everything after it because we liked the name.

two genres that I really love, but for some reason, the fan bases tend to be kind of separate from each other, even though people like them for the same reasons. So we make horror and martial arts double features. So if you like one, you'll probably like the other. I love it. And you said each episode is like every week you give a new double feature for people to watch. Yeah, we make a new double feature feature we'll like title it based on like what would be on the marquee um so that it feels like you're going to a double feature so like uh we had one where it was maniac cop and police story so that was like the bad cop worst cop double feature um and then some the whatever guest it is or if it's just the two of us will also come up with like what you would have at concessions. It's usually ridiculous

and not food. And if it's a guest, they come in with a pick and we'll try and come up with a counter for what we think works. And it works like 80% of the time. Sometimes people will come in with a movie that is so batshit we have a little bit of a difficult time trying to pair it, but it

usually does. Yeah, I mean that's the great thing about horror and martial arts is they are two of the more batshit genres. Yeah. So you're going to get some pretty crazy stuff. Well, I'm excited about your podcast and excited to have you here on my podcast.

Also joining us, a returning guest. I shouldn't say another because it's Vanessaessa's first time uh writer director actor producer he wears all the hats it's our friend joe lynch hey joe hi everybody i'm sorry i'm a little starstruck because i didn't realize that the vanessa gorillaz is going to be on uh because I have also been a fan of your tweets, also your hair color. Thank you.

And I, like, it's so funny because I just discovered the Kicking and Screaming podcast before. I think you had tweeted it out like a couple of weeks ago. And it's one of those genius ideas. But the first thing I always wanted to ask you about was, has there been a movie where you went, it could be both?

Yeah, we actually just had one that we're going to have on an upcoming episode that is 100% both. And it's Blood Moon. I hadn't heard of it before. Have you heard of Blood Moon? Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. God, it's actually fucking perfect.

It's perfect. My husband's obsessed with that movie. And he was like, I think this one is both kicking and screaming. And I watched it last night, and it is a slasher martial arts movie that I am fucking obsessed with. And it is the first one we've had that is 100% both. That's pretty impressive. Subscribed. Thank you. subscribed.

Thank you. Joe, when you ask that question, because often when somebody asks a question like that, they also have an answer ready to go. Do you have a suggestion for a movie that's both horror and martial arts? Funny you should ask, guys. I just happen to have a film that is also a Christmas movie. It's also

Die Hard in a Room, but it also has martial arts and horror stuff. It's my 2013 film, Everly. So there you go. Oh, hell yes. I just totally plugged myself. But I'm like, you know what? Fuck it.

It's Doug Loves Movies. Yeah. I thought you were going to be altruistic and name somebody else's work. But it's all good. It's 2020. We're all going down in a ball of flames. I might as well get that seven cents residual. No, you know, what's funny, what, what would like,

cause I'm so fascinated about that concept. Sorry, Doug, but like, Oh man, now I'm like really having a hard time trying to think of something like that wouldn't be like a Chinese ghost story. I mean, there's also one that we had that was kind of both which is encounters of the spooky kind um which is like kind of ghost story but has some other horror elements too and it's a sammo hung uh kung fu vampire ghost story movie uh it's on youtube uh it it's one of the most insane endings I've ever seen in any movie in my entire life in which Sammo hung. Um,

I'm not giving any context cause there shouldn't be, you just need to find out why, uh, but punches a woman into the sky. Uh, it's one of my favorite things I've ever seen and it's kind of both. And also I'm hella starstruck too, because I'm a huge fan of yours. You know who I'm a huge fan of though, Vanessa? Taylor Morden. Oh, hell yeah. Massive.

Joe's also super into segues. I'm sitting going, oh my God, Taylor must be like, I'm done. Like, this is bullshit. Like, why the hell am I even talking here? These two knuckleheads are just going back and forth. I had no clue that Doug did The Last Blockbuster. That's fucking awesome, dude. It's true.

I am in the motion picture that this gentleman directed. It's a documentary called, as Joe said, The Last Blockbuster. And it's in theaters and VOD and all that stuff on december 14th 15th which is tuesday and his name is taylor morden hello hi everybody hi hi thank you this is anybody in particular you'd like to geek out on uh i don't know no i'm sorry all right my movie has a blockbuster in it which has kung fu and horror movies inside of it yeah i'm all encompassing that is very true i worked at a blockbuster for two summers it was there you go awesome they're jealous of that me too do they hire extra people there in the summer or did you just, you were just such

a good potential employee that they were like, you could just work your summers? I was the, I was employee of the month for three months in a row the first year because, well, the thing is most of the people who worked at Blockbuster is when Blockbuster started. And I mean, you can probably get this and more in the last last blockbuster uh documentary but like in my town we lived on the mom and pop video stores and then slowly but surely all the blockbusters started showing up and because most people who went to mom and pop video stores wanted new releases and most of those new releases were out they'd go to the blockbuster which had that entire surrounding wall with new releases were out, they'd go to the blockbuster, which had that entire surrounding wall with new releases. And then there was no one getting the library films.

So my, like the greatest joy in the world is to like, to stand there with my stupid blue shirt. And when someone would come and be like, do you have casino? I want the two. And they would like, you know, wait there for an hour standing by the returns, waiting for that double cassette to come in.

And it wouldn't. And then you'd be like, can I interest you in Mean Streets? And you know what? Like most time you'd be able to like get them into the center of the room. They usually came back really happy. So like the fact just the fact that I was pushing like you. Sorry. Happy Gilmore isn't in. Do you like Sleeper? Do you like Woody Allen movies? And push that. They were thrilled so yeah sorry i'd like that's i just i'm so excited for this doc because blockbuster was so much a part of so many people's lives and now that it's like gone like it's it's kind of heartbreaking yeah you have to go to Bend, Oregon and check out the last blockbuster. It's a really, it's an unusual experience.

I did it and that's what happens in the movies. There's a sequence where I'm just sort of losing my mind over the fact that it's such a, you know, it's almost like walking into a museum that just happens to, you know, be all the displays are blockbuster video. It just brings you back to any video store that you ever went to and just walked up and down the house. Now we just scroll through the streaming services. Instead, we, you know, walk up and down the house for, you know, sometimes you go, let's go pick up a movie, especially if it's two people, a friend or a girlfriend or something. And you're standing around trying to figure out which one to watch for, you know, for the longest time. So how did

you, Taylor, how did the idea to have a documentary about the one and only blockbuster in existence, how did that come to be? i was here in bend oregon i had moved here and you drive around this town long enough and you see that big sign you know the big blue blockbuster sign that we're all so familiar with and i would see it and i would just assume that it was just still up you know like it's more expensive to take the sign down because I knew for sure all the blockbusters were closed. But probably six months later, it dawned on me to just stop and see what it is, like maybe peek in the window and see the old abandoned racks. But turns out it was still open, had all the new releases. It felt the same. It looked the same. It smelled the same in there. It was as if no one had told them that Blockbuster went out of business and

they were just kept right on going. And I had just finished my first documentary at that time. So I fancied myself a documentary filmmaker and I just asked the manager, Sandy, would it be okay if I start bringing cameras over and film? And no one had ever asked her that. There were still about 12 stores left at that time. So it wasn't, you know, it wasn't the last blockbuster yet, but she was okay with it kind of reluctantly. And I just started filming, you know, I'd go in once a week and see what was happening, talk to the customers. And then over the course of the last almost four years, slowly they went from 12 stores down to just one while we were there filming.

So it kind of just worked out for us. I mean, there's so many, you know, video documentaries out there that gave up because they didn't end up being the last one. Right. Yeah. And you know what? Errol Morris was in Pacoima at that Blockbuster, and you're really dastardly. Good job. Exactly.

It makes my heart so happy to know that I can, like, still smell a Blockbuster if I wanted to. Yep. Because my heart aches for, like, the smell of, like, carpet glue and, like, VHS dust the way that a blockbuster had and the pre-packaged pop popcorn like yes a distinct smell uh and you know funny enough hollywood video smelled like piss it always did why everyone in the country every hollywood video always distinctly was like very purple and smelled like piss yeah well bend is such a beautiful

city like it's it's so fun to visit because it's it really is like a vacation you know it's like a destination city it's so beautiful and i'm you know in the winter it's got snow in the summer it's just uh you know the uh you know weather. It doesn't get that hot there. And so I had a, you know, a great time just visiting Bend. And then just when you go to the strip mall where Blockbuster is, it looks like anywhere in America, it just looks like a strip mall that has a Blockbuster. So you get the best of both worlds or two worlds if you go there. And so now the movie comes out on all the platforms on uh tuesday

and um is the blockbuster in bend are they what what are they doing during covet are they just open and people just kind of scoot in and scoot out? Yeah, so they're at reduced capacity right now. Masks are required. It's one-way lanes, so you have to go down the comedy aisle this way and the horror aisle the other way so people don't get too close. But a lot of people now are calling, and what you can do is you call and you get one of these teenage video store clerks to go browse for you, and they'll pick the movie out

and bring it to your car they do curbside movie pickup it's pretty cool it's like a sonic but for videos it is that's i'm sorry but like that's the i would drop everything to work that job for six months and if they can pay the DGA residuals that I need for my health insurance, that's totally fine. But to be able, like, that's what I miss about even just going to video stores. I used to love, I was that fat little geek

who would be by the returns waiting for Eric the Viking. And there would be somebody there who's just like dying for screen too. And I'd, you know, be waiting to hear and see if, you know, they're they're actually worth the time. And then you go, can I interest you in Friday the 13th part four? It's right over there. Check out, you know, like and there was so much it was so much fun to watch. It's the final turn. And then they look right over to the next box and they see the new beginning. And like, wait a second, that kid's lying to me.

But that kind of like homegrown curation, you know, like everyone professes like, but you just go on a message board or look at film Twitter and see what everybody's talking about. It's not the same, you know, and even just down to how box art was so huge and it created a whole genre of like artists who made these amazingly like misleading box arts where you go oh my god mark singer is that ripped then you see the beast master and you go kind of sort of sure you know but now like and and i'm sure you guys you know like taylor you probably had to deal with this in a way like when you go on VOD, what's the best thumbnail that's going to look good on Apple TV or iTunes? It's not the same. No one's going to make that same kind of art because it wasn't where you could actually pick the box up, look at it and go, yeah, I'm in. Oh, yeah.

yeah, I'm in, you know, that's, that's a, but you know, that's one of the heartbreaking things about how the times have changed is, you know, both for someone who loved just going into a video store, but also working there. I were also worked at a mom and pop called one 12 video. And, uh, and again, it was so much fun to like steer people into watching movies. They would normally never watch just because they were going for the flavor of the week you know um yeah i miss it man so last blockbuster covers not only the you know existing last blockbuster but also just the history of blockbuster why all the blockbusters went away and um you have uh i could try to name a few of the people that are in it, but you probably have it more handy in your mind who the folks are that you talk to in the film, you know, celebrity wise.

Yeah. And you don't mean the employees at Blockbuster like Ryan and Dan? Ryan is pretty cool. I had a good time with Ryan, but I'll start. Kevin Smith. Doug Benson. Ron Funches. Brian Posain. Paul Scheer. Sam Levine.

Oh, I was going to say Sam Levine. I know. Ione Sky. Yeah, Ione Sky. I love it. You got all these cool people to talk about their memories of going to Blockbuster. And everybody can see it starting on Tuesday. Yes. Wherever you rent movies.

And if you're in Bend, you can rent it at Blockbuster. Oh, that's so dope. Road trip. Yeah. Yeah. Go all the way up there, rent and then and then don't bring it back right they'll never find you classic blockbuster move you can you can order it from there and the little the teenagers that work there will package it up and when it comes to your house it may still

smell like blockbuster so i'm gonna do that blockbuster scent um speaking of uh sense and noticing them dogs have a good sense of smell and the reason that they asked joe lynch to be on this particular episode of the master segues is taking back the throne it's the last chance for him to, at least, you know, through my show, promote an upcoming event that happens every December that I'm very proud to have participated in and will participate in again this year. It's the Yorkethon. Yes.

Yes, Yorkethon 5. We've hit the five stride. It's like we're in the new beginning era. You know, last year we thought it was the final chapter, and this year we're back. back but yes doug doug has been such a huge you know part of this uh so much so that we actually dedicated uh the office bathroom to him it is the official doug benson commemorative restroom yeah which is not cool okay to be fair to be fair that was things remembered fuck that one up you know i'm sure uh but no yes uh yorkie thon uh it's an annual event that adam green fellow

filmmaker uh and i do we have a podcast called the movie crypt and every year because adam has a very very special relationship with his yorkie arwen who's actually a co-host of the show um we do this event where we stay up for 48 hours straight i don't know who made up these fucking stupid rules but that's what we thought of that one night playing battleship going what could we do to save the dogs let's stay up for 48 hours live straight through try to and and stay awake and then that's where i came up with this dumb quote that adam says all the time uh we're staying awake so that they don't get put to sleep and as of this like the last four years that we've done it and we've had guests on musical acts we do commentaries it's been on

multiple times in fact was listening to the show uh I think it was like the first year you were involved, Doug. And we had like a couple hours later had a live commentary of Dawn of the Dead with the guy who gets the screwdriver in the ear, John Harrison, who went on to direct many things. Pasquale Buba, the editor, and his brother Tony, who were two of the bikers. And now Pasquale Bubba, sorry for me to get nerdy here, is one of George Romero's editors. He also edited Michael Mann's fucking Heat. So that's how cool this dude is. And they came at like seven in the morning or eight in the morning to sit down with us and watch Dawn of the Dead, which is arguably in the top three movies for me of all time. So it's going on and my mind is blowing. I've also been up for 34 hours at that point. So I really was in a lucid

state. And Doug is on Twitter, like supporting the show and talking about us. But then he texts me, goes, is this really fucking happening? I'm like, yes. He's like, I'll be there in 20. And Doug shows up and just sits there and watches these guys talk about Dawn of the Dead with us. It was amazing. So, Doug, thank you so much for being part of this. And this year is, you know, it's going to be challenging because we're doing everything on Zoom, on Shore. Like, I got to be honest. You know, I've done this show a couple times.

And part of the fun of it is feeding off of you and the other guests in person and the crowd and everything. So, you know, this year we're doing it zoom. So it's going to be different, but you know, at the same time, we're still going to save dogs. Over the years we've done at this point, we've made over a hundred thousand dollars, which is wheelbarrows and wheelbarrows of Yorkies that have been saved. And hopefully we do it again this year. So, uh, and shameless plug here, uh, go to aeroscope.com, uh, look up the Yorkie thon, and it starts this Friday at 5.00 PM, December 18th. And we are going to stay live for 48 hours

straight until Sunday, the 20th at 5.00 PM, whatever comes out of our mouths. I am very sorry. Like I'm bleeding times where I'm getting texts going. You didn't just fucking say that. 5 p.m whatever comes out of our mouths i am very sorry like and believe me there have been times where i'm getting texts going you didn't just fucking say that did you i'm like i thought i said cucumber like i haven't because you really do go fucking crazy after two days of being awake and having to talk the entire time as you can tell i'm kind of used to it uh but doing it and then and then just continuing that and then having people like you know doug supporting us and keeping us awake it helps so much you know like we had people like uh like bobcat shows up at the end of last year just to kind of like smack us you know smack

us awake or tom lennon you know like last year just like showed up and he's like you're really this is i thought you guys start push like play on like a prerecorded thing by now and be dead. But yeah, so it's going to be exciting. Please tune in. And yeah, I'm going to shut up now. I'll bring my, you know, I'll bring my patented, excited stoner energy to the show. You are the one guest who's actually braving the pandemic and showing up. And we have a special Doug Benson benson's like vip section just for

you so it's completely safe you know quarantine friendly and you know hey if i'm outside and you and i've got a mask on and you're six feet from me i'm i'm i'm good that's exactly what we have we have a little stool uh it's going to be great, you know, with a great Internet connection. And yeah, and it'll be great because that's going to be because usually it's we would have anywhere from like 20 to 30 guests who are all like coming in and coming out. It was just this constant like it was like Grand Central Station at times with just people coming in and out. And what's crazy is that, like, again, as a geek, when you sit there and you go wait a second like there's the director of candy man and he just passed by the director of phantasm and they never met before and there they are hugging holy fuck what's going on you know it's like that kind of weird shit just kind of happens over the course of the weekend so you

never know what you're gonna what's gonna happen happen. And yeah. And after those, after those two met, that's when a phantasm man was. I watched that. That would be, that's the kind of mashup, but we need right now. Don't say it three times. I want to do a quick box office report because I'm trying to support what little theaters are open in North America. And of course the drive-ins i mean who would have ever predicted a resurgence in drive-ins because of a pandemic the drive-in will never die yeah it really is here to stay now everyone can stay safe in their cars i've been to two or three drive-in movies

since this started and even like movie premieres and stuff. Yeah. We had our blockbuster premiere at a drive-in. No way. That's so rad. Yeah. It was pretty cool. Which one was it? Was it here in LA?

No, no. It was here in here in bend for the bend people. Yeah. They did a pop-up drive-in over the summer, but it was pretty legit. And they showed a handful of movies, but I think ours was the only world premiere. Yeah. They did a, a pop-up drive-in over the summer, but it was pretty legit. And they showed a handful of movies, but I think ours was the only world premiere. Wow. Oh, that's so dope.

I didn't predict how emotional I would be the first time I went to a drive-in in the pandemic and like hear the other cars honking. Cause I really missed like the communal movie experience to be fair. It was also on an edible. So it was just like really emotional. I cried a bunch, but like, I've gotten to so many since then. And every time I hear the other cars honking, I'm like, fuck, that's what I miss about being in a theater so much. Flashing your lights and honking your horns. And like, I had done, um, a movie called Chillerama where we, cause I grew up at the drive-in, you know, like my first drive-in was Beastmaster in

the black hole. And it's like, and Beastmaster played after Black Hole again, you know, like that's one of the benefits you get with the drive-in. They just keep playing shit. And you know, before we had gone, you know, casually to the drive-in, either the Vineland Theater here in LA or the Mission Tiki. And then when the pandemic hit, like maybe a month later they started up again

and it was all repertory movies like Gremlins and Stand By me and raiders of the lost ark it was like wait there's a silver lining here for us dorks out there who were like who need that communal experience any way they can get and you know for anybody who was in la i don't know vanessa if you went to any of these i think doug you did like the the beyond fest oh i went to all of them i went to pretty much every one so we were probably passing each other and we didn't even know because I went, Oh yeah. But that, that moment when the, the thing comes on and says, please don't honk your horns. And of course,

everybody's fucking honking their horns. You know, you can't not honk your horn when Keith David's name count comes up during the thing. Sorry. You know, like, like it's a, it's our duty to like honk when Gina Davis blows away Jeff Goldblum's head at the end of the fly. You know, that's, it's part of that experience that. I honk when he takes his shirt off for the first time. He is pretty buff. Yes.

Oh yeah. He's got that good tan oily chest. So thank God. Cause it wasn't the crazy. Mission Tiki was almost going to close yeah that's nuts so hopefully there's no like voodoo doll in the back of their tiki office where they're like please come up with some way for the drive-in to not get go under and well 2020 happened so yeah well it's uh it's been a boon to drive-ins, you know, because also the premieres and stuff that I've been to have been like, you know, they just rent the drive-in.

So then that drive-in doesn't even have to worry about selling tickets, you know, they could just host the event. But it's a mix right now, the top five at the box office this weekend, because it mostly from figures from uh drive-ins the kids really drive which movies do the best so of course the crudes is still number one at the box office with three reporting three million dollars with a bullet uh half brothers i really got to figure out what that is is it in the number two slot i With a bullet. Half Brothers. I really got to figure out what that is. Is it in the number two slot? I just haven't heard anything about this movie, Half Brothers.

But number three is a movie we all know quite well because it's Elf, because holiday movies are here right now, obviously. And number four is, I was wondering if either of you horror buffs have seen this, the movie Freaky is hanging in there in the top five. Yes, I did. I loved it. I thought it was really cool.

It was one I didn't get to see in the drive-in, but I did watch on VOD. And really just like an intersection of my great loves, where it's like high school body swap and horror. Just like two of my favorite things in the same place. It is kind of surprising that it hasn't happened sooner, because it is such a good idea. Well, think about how many of those movies were so big in the 80s. And they were all comedies, you know, vice versa, like Father Like Son, big, you know, like big kind of, you know what I mean? Like the fact that someone didn't go, genius gets what makes a slasher like or even just the serial killer in a slasher iconic even just that moment in the beginning when he tilts his head oh it's great he's awesome in that movie like

in a just world he would get at least a nomination for the oscars it's one of my like favorite movie things that i'm realizing i like a trend with, which is grown men playing teenage girls. Like, because it requires a very specific kind of sensitivity and empathy toward teenage girls to where it doesn't seem like campy and valley girl voice, and it's just so earnest that it's hilarious but kind of touching.

Like, Jack Black as a teenage girl in Jumanji was way better than it had any right to be. He was great. Yeah, and Vince Vaughn is doing a lot of that. And I'm realizing I think I'm just a sucker for a grown man playing a teenage girl. All right, well, hopefully there'll be a lot more of that. I know they're definitely making another Jumanji, but wasn't that part of the joke in Jumanji 2 is they were playing different, like they had different characters?

I think so. I've only seen- Yeah, they twisted it up so that, and then they added Danny Glover and, what is it? Oh, shit. What's his name? Danny DeVito.

They put both Dannys just to kind of mix it up because who doesn't want to see The Rock do Danny DeVito. They put those, they put both Danny's just to kind of mix it up. Cause who doesn't want to see the rock do Danny DeVito? Oh, God damn. Now I got to watch Schumann. It's funny. It's weird how those movies, they shouldn't work.

I think, I mean, honestly, I think that's like Jake Kasdan, you know, there's someone who knows how to make quality, like, like comedy,

comedy, you know, like he knows how to make it um heartfelt and a little different and a little edgy and really knows like his shit with actors you know like so and to have those four in the mix they're they're actually they're so much better than they have any right to be right oh yeah it's like just really understanding like why people liked the original properties and it's not so much of just like doing a straight remake, but just like,

I don't know, just getting the tone and like why people found joy in them in the first place. Yeah. Well, speaking of taking the joy out of something in the number five slot is a movie that I don't care for, but a lot of people love.

And that's Ron Howard's Grinch. Not a fan. it's creepy as fuck yeah for me it's just it's right up there the polar express uh of uh you know movies that are supposed to be cute movies for kids that are actually just terrifying it's the garbage pail kids of holiday movies yeah it's the uncanny valley that wigs you out where it's just like almost people faces but not quite so like a primal part of your brain is just like get away from me yeah i swear uncanny valley that expression was created because of polar express is that true i think so i think that's when they first started saying it it was either polar express or like a

japanese sex robot it was like one of the two where it like got too close to people but enough that we got uneasy initially tom hanks was going to play every part but then when they were doing the motion capture shooting of everything he just was like got too exhausted by the idea so they cut back. You just hated all the balls on his face? Yeah. Yeah, it was weird. That was just... Okay. So before we get into the game portion of the show, I always like to ask,

so that the listeners can have options of things to view, I always like to ask all of my guests if they could recommend, if there's anything they've seen recently, especially via streaming or r from blockbuster that um you know that you would recommend we'll start with uh taylor do you have a recommendation uh yeah i just watched uh i think it's called sound of metal oh the amazon movie with uh riz Ahmed man it was cool i love riz Ahmed i'm dying, man, it was cool. I love Riz Ahmed. I'm dying to see that.

It was really cool. It's like he's a metal drummer and then he goes deaf and it's just his struggle with that. But I thought it was really well done. And he's fun to watch. It definitely seems like a sound design Oscar nomination is in the cards for that movie because it's very immersive in terms of like kind of letting the viewer in on Riz's problem.

And he's just phenomenal. He's so good in it. You know, there's certainly a lot more Oscar bait movies left that I haven't gotten to yet or haven't come out yet. But I really think he's a strong position for best actor, at least a nomination, maybe not the win. What about you, Joe? Do you have anything you could recommend? I might get canceled for this, but the last movie that I saw, I've been watching a lot,

but one that I keep coming back to just thinking about is that movie Fat Man, the Mel Gibson Santa Claus movie. It's like a really good episode of that show Fargo, where it feels Coen brothers ask, you can just appreciate how, you know, the, the directors it's, it's two brothers.

They did a movie called small town crime with John Hawks, which was again, like very much like a blood simple type movie. And here they do it with the mythos of Santa Claus. And I don't know, like I enjoyed the shit out of it. But the thing that is amazing in this movie is Walton Goggins, who I mean, he he's awesome to begin with. You know, the what is it, the the righteous gemstones? I mean, everything he does, even all the way back to like House of a Thousand Corpses. He's always the shield. Like he's always been great. all the way back to like house of a thousand corpses he's always the shield like he's always been great but he chews scenery like fucking beef jerky in this movie he's so fucking good you know

and also it's i like like christmas movies that are a little mean spirited like that's why scrooged is pretty much like up there in the top three to five of my, my Christmas viewings. Cause I just love Scrooged. Gremlins. Gremlins is a mean fucking movie. Die Hard takes no fucking prisoners. They kill fucking Tagagi with that blood splat. And you're like, Oh, you're like, this is a Christmas movie. But Fat Man is really dark and I really appreciated it. So there's that. But if you want to go like way

back, one of my, like my favorite movies that I've seen like this last month is an old James Whale movie called this old, uh, no, the old dark house. Um, it's on criterion. It's the movie he made between, um, uh, Frankenstein and Dracula. And, um, it's a little campy. Charles Lawton's in it. Boris Karloff's in it. It's fucking great. It's like funny called again, the old dark house. There's sequences in it that are fucking terrifying.

I mean, this movie is from 1932. It's on criterion channel right now. And it's like, it uses a lot of just like old smoke and mirrors tricks, sometimes literally there's use of shadow in it that like it's brilliant. You know, and it's funny because I've been watching a lot more older movies thanks to Criterion just to justify having that subscription. like a real lack of appreciation for movies going way back like that, where some people might be like, oh no,

I want the next elevated horror movie, you know, that's coming out this week to really just like, give me the heebie-jeebies. But what Whale does with just the most basic use of camera lighting shadows, and I'm sitting there going, I feel as unnerved as I did when I was watching that headless corpse like float up into the like the shack in Midsommar. You know, like one of those just moments that like just chills you. And you're like, this movie was made in 1932 and it's still effective, you know. So anyway, there you go. Mel Gibson, you know, modern classic.

I crossed out Fat Man and wrote down. I had to redeem myself a little bit uh vanessa what do you think um actually yeah i got uh i've been doing a lot of a youtube movie watching but there's one that i saw on a drive-in that i rented a couple times on youtube that's one of my favorite things i've ever seen both like this year and just bar none uh and it's we are little zombies uh I love the shit of that shit out of that movie and I like can't figure out how to describe it because I've never seen anything like it um it's like the premise is basically like uh some teenage Japanese orphans,

like all meet each other at their parents' funerals and just decide to start a like chip tune band together. But it's so surreal and manic and weird and not like anything I've ever seen in my whole life. It's so goddamn good. i cannot say enough good things about we are little zombies it kind of sounds like fish story a little bit a little bit it's it it's it's basically like these vignettes of like these different kids stories and their backgrounds but it also takes place like video game levels so like as every video game level goes on it's like also them contemplating like mortality and like what it means to be alive and it's just like level unlocked uh it's so bizarre and it's one of my favorite things i've ever seen and because

the director also wrote it and did the music for it it's such a cohesive idea where it's like very thoughtful uh uh like in every choice that it makes and it's only like four bucks on youtube uh but i can't stop talking about it and there's like a bizarre banjo scene that's going to be something that i think about for like the rest of my fucking life uh so we are little zombies but if you don't want to spend 4.99 to rent a movie streaming free on YouTube is a drive starring Mark Dacascos and a cream artisan. I love that movie so much.

It's one of my favorites. It's it's, it's my favorite movie called drive. And it's the number one drive of all of the drives. It's the number one drive JD power all of the drives, it's the number one drive. It has the J.D. Power Award for movies that correctly utilize Mark Dacascos, who most of my generation knows as the Iron Chef America guy, but who now is starting to realize is the John Wick 3 guy, but also has been this like incredible action star for like forever, but who's also like maybe the most charismatic human on the planet.

We had him, we had him on our podcast a couple of months ago and he just dripped like awesomeness. Like even through the zoom, you're just like, this guy is charismatic as fuck. He just got the drip. He's so dope. He's so awesome. And you know, what's funny is that that movie drive, I was such a huge fan of that movie.

When the movie that I just mentioned before, Everly, we shot, we shot that in Serbia, but we needed a lot of like Yakuza members in the film. And we ended up getting this stunt crew team led by the, the stunt coordinator of Drive. He did all the stunts for it.

And all I could talk about is how, like, seriously, like the stunts in Drive are, like the last 20 minutes is up there with like the Matrix shit. It's so good. And Kadeem Hardison and Mark Dacascos have such a good chemistry together too. That movie rules. And then you throw Brittany Murphy into the mix, who is like from, from go the most unhinged character on screen. Bananas.

She's like purely unhinged. This is a movie where like a dude is dressed like, like Australian boss hog vampire. And he's not the craziest person on screen. It's Brittany Murphy. And she's so good at it. All right. Well, those are some uh amazing recommendations thank you for giving us a bunch of stuff to watch especially the alternates that are free instead of on paid youtube or criterion collection um

although i guess fat man costs money to see right now get it on red box oh okay um that really that really swayed you yeah i'm in i'm gonna go get it on red box but uh i'm also going to throw to a brief commercial break because uh we haven't done that yet i was supposed to do that at like the halfway point but we've been having so much fun talking that we're a little behind. So we're going to take a brief commercial break, and then we're going to come back and play at least one game, maybe two, and no flipping. We'll be right back.

We're back. And I've prepared a couple of games to play, but we used up so much of the time already that uh i'm going to ask everybody uh to i still want to play this first game uh even though we don't have time for it so um we'll do it quickly it's called how long is it and it's the game where i name a thing and then the three of you i'll just guess how long it was and the the closest one to going to the number without going over wins. Doesn't matter really what order we do it in, but because you can, you know, change your mind about your bid if you want. But we'll start with Vanessa.

And the question is, how long? This is why I want to play it because the movie actually came up already. How long was the principal photography of the motion capture sequences in the sometimes creepy, always disconcerting Tom Hanks vehicle, the Polar Express? Oh, my God. I feel like. In months. In months. Oh my God. I feel like in months, in months,

I feel like a zip drive just exploded in my brain. Cause there's just too many numbers. Cause it comes out. It's so weird that I can't tell if it just like happened in three months or if it was like really meticulous over nine. I'm a, you know what? I'm a, what? I was going to make a joke. Go ahead. Oh man. A joke is probably better than the math that I'm trying to do in my head.

Like how long can you have Tom Hanks for at a reasonable, you know what? I'm going to say four months. Okay. What do you think, Joe? I'm going to say Tom Hanks had balls on his face for 11 months. Okay. But let's talk about the movie. That's Greyhound. I'm sorry. I was talking about Greyhound, which is a really good movie. Yeah. I'm going to say 11 months, honestly.

I think, I think it, because knowing like back in the day how long that shit took um i now does that mean like a succession of days or did they go back and forth because sometimes those you know those shoots have reshoots and reshoots and reshoots i'm still gonna say 11 months cumulative yeah all i have is a period of time when uh that you know when they started uh principal photography and when they ended it and post probably went on for who knows how long i'm still gonna say 11 months okay taylor i was gonna say 11 months because that sounds super right but i'll go longer because it seems like that's why you're asking the question. So let's say 13 months.

$1. Well, I could be asking the question today and go, see, they only spent a week on that. Right. Yeah. I'll say 13. Okay. You're going 13 months. I'm a bit to six. I'm a low ball. Okay.

Vanessa's locked in at six. Joe, you sticking with 11? Yeah, sure. All right. Taylor's got 13. I would have encouraged Taylor if I could, you know, but I'm trying to be fair to do the price is right thing and do, you know, 11 months in one day. And then that way anything over that would you'd be the winner. Because in fact, it took them approximately 12 months i didn't want to bid 12 because that was the dick move after 11

but that means that uh joe gets to go first in our next game it's really not that big of a prize because everybody will get a chance to go first because wasn't it kind of like in the middle what's that like the 12 months because you said yeah so this price is right rules all right i was i was rooting for you taylor it's all good you went over man so we're gonna play a game called weird algorithm uh there's a weird algorithm on the imdb site where you could take anything you can take the film or a tv show but we're talking films you take a film and look at the cast list and then click on refine based on popularity and then they will reorder the cast list of anything uh in order of everyone's current popularity on the imdb website so things certain bursts in people's careers certain news about them uh you know anything that drives people

to go to the internet movie database and type in their name i think is uh the determining factor here uh but it always ends up uh still being uh surprising to people uh when they find out the order so we'll start with Vanessa. Each person can guess. Just like that last game, you can change your guess. I'll just have to lock in something eventually, and you can even agree with one of the other people if you want to. And you just have to tell me who you think would be the top-billed person in the movie that I'm naming.

If the person actually comes in at number three, you get one point. Number two, you get two points. But if they are the top build person, you get three points. Play three rounds. See who has the highest score. There's a tiebreaker ready to go. Vanessa. Okay.

The first film is called Dazed and Confused. Dazed and Confused. Dazed and Confused. And who, you know, I'm going to say currently Matthew McConaughey has top billing. He certainly has gotten everybody's attention by suddenly seeming like he might be Republican. His recent remarks. I mean, the man does live in Texas right yeah and like out of that whole cast I think he's the most recent that was like trending on Twitter

what do you think Joe I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Batfleck okay I like the way I like the way you said that right we all know who you're talking about he's always our batman he'll always be our batman hashtag the snyder cut you imagine like uh i i guess the pattinson batman got like closed down or do they do you think they're back at work

he got the he got the he got the the coven covid or something like that no i think they're back at work? He got the COVID or something like that. No, I think they're shooting again, but I think wasn't it him who got it? Yeah. It would be hilarious though if they just were like, well, you know what? We just can't stop production. It's too expensive.

So let's just have Ben Affleck fill in for a few scenes. And we're going to get the same visual effects artists who did Henry Cavill's mustache and they're just going to CG him into the rest of the movie. It's going to be fine. Warner brothers. What about you, Taylor? Who do you think from days and confused could potentially come out number one in a popularity contest today? I mean, I feel like it's gotta be McConaughey with the way Google works and

all that. Okay. So you're locking in on McConaughey with the way Google works and all that. Okay. So you're locking in on McConaughey? Yeah. Vanessa, you still good with Matthew? I'm locking in. And Joe still wants Ben Affleck. He'll always be my apples. Just because people are curious, I'll tell you, starting from number six.

Wiley Wiggins. He's a little lower than that, considering he got out of the acting game. But great dude, though. Parker Posey is number six. Number five is Mila Jojovic. Number four, Rene

Zellweger. Number three, Ben Affleck. Damn it. Who's number two? What the fuck? Is number two Anthony Rapp? One point. No, number two is Matthew McConaughey.

Ah. Yeah. But now, here's the crazy thing about this game. Number one out of that cast of people that all went on to do great things. Number one is Cole Hauser. That's crazy. Oh my God. I guess that's because he's on that show Yellowstone.

Is that popular? Oh, you know what? I think it might be popular because I see ads for it on Pluto TV like every four seconds. Yeah, I think it's a popular show. Unless he's gotten in the news for some reason that I'm not aware of. I think that might be why he's number one. So Vanessa has two, Taylor has two, and Joe has one. Joe gets to go first in this second round

And I'm already delighted That I have three players Who didn't have to be reminded Who's in dazed and confused This one's a little tougher I think X-Men The Last Stand X-Men The Last Stand Who do you think

would be number one on that one, Joe? I'm going to say Hugh Jackman. Okay. Wolverine himself. What do you think, Taylor? Taylor? I mean,

maybe Patrick Stewart because of his TV show thing. Pick hard. That's the one? Yeah, I don't know. When I try to get a booger out, I pick hard.

Now that character ruined for me forever. I'd never thought of that before, and I used to be a teenager. Also, I screwed up. I shouldn't have let Vanessa go first in the first round because she didn't win the first game. But you know what? This is a friendly game. So who cares?

I'm just mentioning it. Cause I don't want to get yelled at in the comments section of my socials. Okay. So Taylor's gone with Pat Stewart. And what do you think, Vanessa? I think dollars to donuts. It's Elliot Page.

Oh, crap. Oh, shit. I change. I vote. We all change. So we're all in agreement that it's Elliot Page? I think it's dollars to donuts. That was the convincing thing.

That's a confident statement. Yeah. And also, they just hadn't thought of Elliot Page yet. Is she in that one? I was hoping I'd sneak it past all three of you, because yes, she is, and that he, they are in that movie.

Yeah, he was a Kitty Pryde. Right. I was really delighted by the fact that, you know, obviously movies that are already made and out, they're not going to go back and, you know, change his name. But in the case of IMDB across the board, anything that Ellen was in now says Elliot.

Hell yeah, dog. I think that's so cool. But yes, number one, Elliot Page. Number two, Famke Jansen. Number three, Rebecca Romijn. Four was Hugh Jackman. Patrick Stewart came in all the way at number 13. Oh, damn.

13. Oh, jeez. That's nowhere near as embarrassing as Kelsey Grammer. Kelsey Grammer. He's 37. Oh, shit. Famke is higher than I thought she would be yeah policy grammar is not that low but he is he is of the main known people he's he's pretty deep in the list um but yeah famka is she in something right now i can't remember is she just just an enduring character from the series?

I wonder, because I can't think of anything that she's been in recent. I mean, the last thing I think I saw her in that was like kind of recent was Hemlock Grove. I mean, she might be in some TV show. None of us are currently. Yeah. You know, because there's so many things now that are popular while also not, you know, it's not guaranteed everybody knows about it. Case in point, Yellowstone.

Yeah. So here we go. We've got one more round. Everybody agreed on that one, so points, the order is pretty much the same. Vanessa and Taylor are winning, ande is one point behind damn it and the film that we're going to do sorry. It wasn't a classic horror movie. No, I just had a weird fear of grease as a child, so I never watched it. You had a fear of like the kinds of people that are in grease or physical, actual grease?

Like, oh God. Okay. So when I was a kid, my dad put in grease and an earthquake happened. So my dumb child brain automatically assumed like this movie is cursed because I don't know why I just associated with like, that is what caused it. I was young. So for like the rest of my life, I was like afraid of the grease tape. Cause I was like,

that's going to make the earth shake again. And then I just never watched it. I can't believe you have your own personal ring situation. There's a tape you can't watch or Videodrome. OK, so apologies. I'm sure you've heard about it in the schoolyard and around the halls. But you don't have to guess first, right? Or yeah, you do. No, you don't. It's actually Taylor's turn to guess first.

Taylor, what do you think? I mean, it's got to be hard to beat Travolta. I'm just going to start there and see what everyone else says. Oh, I like that strategy. Uh, Vanessa. All right. So I only know like two maximum three names in it. So I'm going to go with Olivia Newton, John. She is definitely in it. Joe, what do you think?

Because watch, it's going to be like Jeff Conway or something. Watch. You know what? I think I'm going to go with Travolta too. I think Travolta is still always talked about and he's always on that pop culture bubble. But yeah, I think I'm going to go with, with the fanatic himself. All right. Well, Vanessa's going with O and J. So that'll,

that'll definitely give us an outcome. Yeah. I just listened to physical a bunch. So she's like on my mind. give us an outcome. I just listen to physical a bunch, so she's on my mind. Alright. Coming in at number seven, the aforementioned Jeff Conaway. With a

bullet! I'm sorry to say, Vanessa, that Olivia Newton-John only pulled up to number six. Damn! Five was the great Lorenzo Lamas. Oh. Four, the even greater Eddie Deason.

Hey, lady. Professional nerd. Also, also in the Polar Express. Polar Express, yeah. Probably the most irritating voice and character in Polar Express. Oh, God, I remember that kid. Number three, because she was 30 when they made Grease, Stalker Channing.

And then coming in at number two is Johnny Travs. John Travolta is number two. I know who's number one. You do? Who do you think it is? Well, because I just looked it up i'm not saying it because i can't fucking believe it but go ahead oh god damn it number one for playing an uncredited school athlete because imdb loves to throw uncredited people into their list is Michael Bean. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Because of The Mandalorian, right? Oh, right. It's got to be, yeah. Mandalorian is so huge that anybody who guest stars on it rockets to the top of the popularity list on IMDb. So congratulations. Michael Bean taking a shit on the rest of the

crew taylor wins the game congratulations hell yeah yay um just for fun real quick uh would you rather do joe would you rather know the rankings of your your films as an actor or your films as a director? Actor. Okay. As an actor, what do you think is your number one? I'm going to go with Mayhem.

It's Frozen because you play Guy on chairlift number two uncredited nice i am the michael bean of frozen well let's do the plugs thank you everybody for being here we'll start with taylor morden director Taylor Morden, director of The Last Blockbuster in wherever you're finding movies these days, this Tuesday. Yeah, that's about it for my plugs. You can follow us on Twitter at Last Block Doc. What's that? Last Block Doc on Twitter and Last Blockbuster Movie on the other social medias. All right, cool. doc on twitter and last blockbuster movie on the other social medias all right cool and you also

have a um an event like a watch party event coming up yeah yeah this next friday um we're doing a live kind of audio commentary from blockbuster with the folks over at film threat so we'll have sandy the manager uh live watching the movie in the store and we're all gonna talk about it people can submit questions and whatnot you know where can they see that uh it's that film threat so it's on their youtube channel cool yeah i'm so checking that out joe lynch what do you got going on let's should, should we just make it all about Yorkie thon? Yeah. I mean, well, after you're done watching the amazing live stream of Taylor,

watching the last blockbuster on Friday, head on over to area scope.com. It's the same weekend, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Hey, you know what? Like there's a one-time only moment that you'll get, you can get 46 more hours of Adam Green and I to save, to save some dogs lives. Go to aeroscope.com and black backslash or one of those slashes Yorkie

thon. You'll be able to get the link there. There's a silent auction that we have every year where people donate stuff and it does a lot for the, the cause. And we'll just listen in and listen to us try to stay awake so that they don't get put to sleep. It's a good quote. What can I say? Hey, could you spell Ariescope for everybody? That would be A-R-I-E-S-C-O-P-E.com. Yeah.

And definitely listen to Doug on there. I can't, we usually don't release the guests and when they're going to be, but sometime around Saturday, if you're not too busy, maybe a familiar voice, who knows? But yes, it's going to be great to have you back on, Doug. Thank you so much for doing it again.

Yeah, thank you. And tell Adam that I'm super excited to participate. And maybe for the auction, maybe I'll bring some stuff to give away, to auction off, and I'll show it when I get there, and then you guys can mail it to the winner. Sure, yeah. And by that, when you give it to us we're not gonna we're gonna keep that shit what are you crazy no definitely that'd be great

i got some good taylor swift swag i want to get rid of oh hell yeah oh no wow really that's that's how bad the new album is no no no it's this is this is something i got a long time ago that you're gonna love it done sold i gotta remember to bring it uh vanessa guerrero the podcast is called kicking and screaming it's about will ferrell it's only about that will ferrell movie it's either about the noah bombach movie or the Will Ferrell movie. It's about both. And we alternate it. And we have 12 episodes in which we just like watch them individually and then together and then drive ourselves insane,

trying to figure out if they're tied in any way. No, you can check us out on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. I think if you type in kicking and screaming a podcast that jenna elfin does with her son comes up first uh so we're the one with pictures of like fists and knives on it uh you can find our socials on kick scream pod under anything if you like horror or martial arts or if you're like new to the genres it's like a perfect entry point too uh so it's it's it's great if it's something that you're like new to the genres it's like a perfect entry point too uh so it's it's

great if it's something that you're like starting to get into um i i love it so much and personally my favorite thing is just guests bringing movies that i haven't seen before um i'd love to have absolutely all of you on because anytime i find something new i'm just so thankful for it. Recently, somebody showed me a movie called Three Dev Adam, which is a Turkish movie in which Captain America and El Santo fight Spider-Man. And I wouldn't find weird shit like that without like the guests that come on. So that's my favorite part about doing it. Well, thank you, Vanessa. It was great having you here all three of you are terrific guests and thank you anytime you want to come by uh let me know december 26th is when i'm doing my next uh live internet stand-up smoke sesh uh rush ticks.com is where you go for tickets we'll even play a game from doug loves movies on that particular show.

So you can watch us play instead of just listening to us do it. That's rush ticks.com. And I close every episode now with the last line from a film. And in this particular case, it's a crazy obvious one that everyone will know. So you don't have to bother guessing as always every time a bell rings an angel gets its wings now it's time for doug to watch another talkie eyes of gold his viewing prowess makes him cocky there's no room in his

heart for you because Cause Doug loves movies.