Doughboys - 85°C Bakery Cafe with Lauren McGuire

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

Lauren McGuire (Bless the Harts, Wrecked, Comedy Bang! Bang!) joins the boys to talk pets, hedgehog cafes, and bakeries before a review of 85°C Bakery Cafe. Plus, a brand new segment, Meal in the Flank.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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retrograde outlier it is, a la nations that provide no paid paternity leave or nations that execute juvenile offenders. For the rest of the world has adopted metric temperature, a.k.a. Celsius, where in 0 degrees is the freezing point of water and 100 degrees is the boiling point. And for granular-minded bean-brew snobs, 100-15 on the Celsius scale equals the ideal temperature for that hot brown liquid we know and love, coffee. And that's the origin of the name of a coffee and bakery chain founded in Taipei, Taiwan in 2004. On the strengths of its high-quality baked goods and signature espresso drinks slash milk teas, the franchise soon expanded to Hong Kong, mainland China, and Australia,

and has since reached a Starbucks-esque critical mass in the People's Republic. In 2013, the chain expanded to the U.S., though stateside, many of its beloved artisanal sweet treats are baked at a central facility and then trucked to stores. Today, the eatery has nearly 1,000 restaurants worldwide, although at the 60 American outposts, the coffee-califaction company's Celsius-centric brand name requires a bit more explanation. This week on Doughboys, 85 degrees Bakery Cafe. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, The Bear with the Big Blue Balls, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

The fuck? The hell is this shit? That's from Brady Turner, who writes in, My wife and I have been watching The Bear and the Big Blue House with our daughter, and I thought of this dumb slash obvious joke. I also remember that Nick worked on a Jim Henson production and knew I had to send it in anyway. Love the pod and the boys. Future Doughboys double-guest year 2030, Instagram, Brady Turner Music, roastspoonamann at gmail.com. Do you know The Bear and the Big Blue House? Was it a Disney show? It was a Disney show? Did they say that in the letter? I wasn't

paying attention. It's like a, it's like a, yeah, it's like a Jim Henson show. I don't know if Disney produced it. I guess Disney did produce it. The Bear with the Big Blue Balls, is that what I was called? Yeah. It's this fucking guy. I'm sure you've seen this Big Bear puppet. No, I know the Bear puppet. Yeah, you've seen this guy. Seat every morning when I look in the mirror.

It's good looking Bear. How you doing Mitch? Who me? Yeah. I'm all right. Why? Because I'm good. Why were you surprised that I asked that? I don't know. It was nice. It's been a stressful couple of weeks. It's been a stressful couple of weeks with, look, we got everything going on. The holiday rush, some personal stuff

going on. You know what, you get it. Yeah. Also, we should, we should point out that Emma couldn't make it to this record. So things are going to get a little crazy. Yeah, you might notice things sound like shit. I couldn't sleep last night. Wags. Man, that sucks because that's been you all week.

And I have recorded this in November. We're in a stretch of we're in a stretch of you and I have both been having bad sleep all week and I finally had a good night's sleep last night. I finally had like a restful like seven hours and I feel like a million bucks because I've been going on like three, four hours of sleep all week long. That's real good. I'm tired, but you know what, I'll be fine. And then, you know, I'm up, I'm sitting there and I can't sleep last night. I got the TV on. The cone heads come on.

I got news. The cone heads are gross. Have we said that before? Like just to look at their growth? I mean, no, not to look at. I don't think that they're, you know, their cone heads are gross. And what's gross about them? I had a crush on the the lady from from hell. Yeah. Used. Yeah. So the younger cone head.

So they're just gross. They're eating toilet paper. They eat soap. They like they open their mouths really wide. They got a bunch of rows of teeth. They're gross. They blast flashlights in their mouth too. Right.

Yeah, they do a lot of weird shit. They do a lot of weird gross. If you watch cone heads, it's kind of gross. It's just a gross movie. Do people know cone heads anymore? I feel like that was like such a like, because I grew up and I remember there's my parents like, oh, the cone heads are like an SNL thing. And then the cone heads movie came out and I rented on VHS.

And now I feel like it's I don't think it I don't think it exists. And like, it's not like they've kept those characters in the zeitgeist. It is funny to like. Yeah, I got I got, you know, my my mom and my godparents, my godmother, my mom used to like, you know, like quote, like, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger. They used to do that all the time. They used to like and then like you see those sketches eventually,

like it's kind of it's kind of suck. Yeah. It's kind of bad the cheeseburger, the Billy Goat Tavern sketch. It's not great, right? It's it's it's okay. Like maybe maybe if we're lucky, like 2040, some like some like pathetic dad will be quoting to their kid like, let us wrap. It's the lettuce wrap.

And the kid will be like, well, what's that? And the look of double boys and be like, this sucks. My dad like this. I guess it makes sense. At least we suck in the moment. Yeah. Yeah, right. Definitely.

It's going to look like a mini spoon. What? Wags, I also turned on Benjamin Button. Also a weird movie. I don't know why I'm just telling you the movies I I watched last night, but Benjamin Button and I got to say, I have I have this. I got I got a thought on on Benjamin Button. But this is a very timely thought on Benjamin Button.

Great. Are we supposed to feel bad for Benjamin Button? Because I don't feel bad for him. I don't know if you're specifically supposed to feel bad. It's more just sort of like by seeing someone who ages backwards, but still kind of has an approximation of a normal life. You're sort of understanding the human condition in a different way. I think that's what you're supposed to take away from it.

He was like a freak for like 20 years and then he became Brad Pitt. Like that's a great trade off. Yeah, I agree. I was a freak for 20 years. Then I didn't get Brad Pitt. I continue to be me freak for another 20 years. Yeah, no shit going. That's what I'm saying.

That's why I'm poor Benjamin Button. Who gives a shit? He turned into Brad Pitt and then he gets to become a baby again. How fun is that? It's everyone's dream. Yeah, I got to do shit. You got your diaper. I know the drill.

It must be exciting to know what a baby is and then become a baby. Because I could do all that fun stuff because I don't remember like shaking a rattle. But now, but in his situation, you're like, oh, my God, this is the fucking blast. This is all I ever need. I get to play peekaboo again. Yeah, it's great.

You get to suck on your mom's titty. Ha, your wife's titty in the movie. It's his wife. Oh, yeah, that's true. Does that happen almost? I guess she also is an old woman. I'm like, I'm saying like as a baby, does he does he have to drink breast milk? Benjamin Button, probably as a baby old man.

I guess so. That's that's that's that's anyway. Stop feeling bad for that for Benjamin Button. Also, the movie's weird. It's a fucking weird movie. Pet-o-ass movie. It's fucking strange. It's an inch.

It's a fascinating premise that maybe doesn't justify being a movie. Like, does this need to be a film? Was this better as like a fucking F. Scott Fitzgerald short story or whatever the fuck the original source was. I like the Finchman. Love the Finchman, David Fincher. We love the Finchman here. We love the Finchman and that we're becoming these are SNL characters.

I mean, they wouldn't ever make it to air, but. The Dope Boys, they were a cool podcast back when I was a kid. Like they would always say stuff like, we love the Finchman. We love the Finchman. We love the Finchman. Kind of. We can't tell if it's like problematic. I feel like it's maybe like ambiguous ethnic accent.

Who is the guy? Scandinavian, maybe, I guess. It's kind of just like wild and crazy guys, but they like the Finchman instead. Anyways, time to put on one girl. I like the Fishman. Oh, cool. Gumbgirl, I like the Finchman. Turn it on.

I get, again, when I hear more of it, I'm like trying to place the accent. And then that's making me uncomfortable. Actually, now that I'm hearing like, hey, alien three is on HBO. Great. I love the Finchman. We love the Finchman. I am starting to think that we could kill with the sketch at PCB. I actually think we could.

I think we could. I think we could do pretty good with it. I think we could do pretty good. Well, we should get our guests in so we can ask her opinion on this. I'm going to, I'm going to play a little drop race before we get a guest in here. Here we go. Wags, a little drop. Loading.

Drop loading, drop loading, drop loading. I love the Finchman. Oh, I love the Finchman. The beach, the beach, the beach, the long beach, the midnight meat train. Oh, it was awesome. Hey, my mom at the end. That was delightful. Good day for my mom.

My, my, my, my, my mom, uh, she's, uh, she's home resting. She had a little, I'm not going to go into details here, but, uh, had a little, uh, a little procedure and she's, she's doing good. So she's at home. It's great to hear. Rustin. Everyone's happy, happy for. Glad to hear it.

Um, hope you enjoy. This is the email. Hope you enjoy Pete from the beach, the beach, the beach, the long beach. Wow. That's Pete from Long Beach. Wow. I wonder if Pete is a fellow Long Beach polyhyalum, because that was our, specifically our chant.

If he went to like Wilson or something, that would be a little out of character. Maybe he did. That's Wilson. That was their chant. Uh, they, they did the Tim, the two man Taylor chant for Wilson. Wilson is where I told you, I've told you about this fabled kid, uh, but the, the, Matt, the tool man, a kid who, for my kid who, for my school, who, uh, like was just like kind of a normal kid.

And then he, and then the next year it was like, he's Matt, the tool man now. And he was doing Tim, the tool man all the time, but he ended up going to Wilson. He fucking crushed with, fucking crushed with his tool man. I think we could have done a drop just as we love the Finchman. We love the Finchman. I think we could have just pretended to do the drop and just done. We love the Finchman. Um, anyways, Wigs.

Oh, it's Ben Affleck's dick. We love the Finchman. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Thank you to Finchman. Thank you for showing us Ben Affleck's dick, the Finchman. Only in profile, but we still like it, the Finchman. I gotta be careful with this accent because it is norwee. It's, it's I'm trying to be Scandinavian and I'm bad at accents, so it's sounding

more problematic as I go. I think that's the, it's, it keeps, uh, it just keeps vacillating between a, basically every country on earth and I think is such it is going to get us universally canceled, but that's fine. Um, anyways, that lady's gonna, those kids are gonna, the future, the future kids are gonna love Doe Boys when they hear it. They're gonna like it. They're gonna love it.

They're gonna love it. That little baby spoon. Yeah. It's like right now we're at the phase in, in, uh, you know, back to the future where Marty McFly, uh, invents rock and roll and then, um, the audience is like, uh, and he's like, uh, it's a little much for you now, but your kids are gonna love it. That's basically the Doe Boys. The way we're being received now, your kids are gonna love it.

They are gonna, your kids, your kids are gonna love it. Your kids are gonna love it. Or I should say our kids are gonna love it. Our kids are gonna love it. I'm saying me and, me and their lives, kids are gonna love it. Come on, come on, come on, come on now. Cuck me, babe. I was thinking of that the other day.

Um, that's the Doe Boys listeners. They sing that, um. Mitch shouldn't joke about, about seducing our wives. My wife, my wife is married to me and she would never stray for this moment. Wives, let's introduce our guest. Yeah. Mitch, we're very, very excited to have her. A writer in committee room, bless the hearts.

Wrecked and comedy bang bang. Lauren McGuire is here. Hi, Lauren. Hi. Lauren, we've been viewing on the main feed. We've had you on the double before, but we're very excited to finally get you on the, on the show to discuss a chain. I, I want to, I want to start because, you know, Mitch is a famous cat man.

Of course. Yeah. Famous cat man. Is a big, he's a big time cat man. You, I consider more of a dog patron. I own, I am in that I own a dog, but I also like cats. I just happen to be allergic. Hell yeah.

You know what? Lauren, you're the best type of person to like cats, but even be allergic because I feel like people who are allergic are like, I hate cats. Like they're always like, I hate cats. And you're like, why? There's something about the love of a cat that you really have to earn that just once you get it. Oh, it feels good. There's nothing like it.

Dogs are just giving it away for free to strangers in the park. I want to work for it a little bit. I like that. No, dogs are just immediately your best friend, which I do like. I do appreciate that. There's, you know, a couple of pit bulls who walk on our block and they'll just like run up to me and they're so excited. And I'm just like, ferociously barking.

It's a T-800. My girlfriend has a cat named Hugo that literally took it, it took, this cat took a year to be friends with me. Like to let me touch it a year. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

And it was, it was a hard year, but it was worth it. And now this cat loves me so much. How do you, how do you do, how do you do with the, oh my God, I'm sitting on Irma. Irma. Irma. She's behind me. I kind of sat on her. Irma's supposed to sit on you.

I know. Is Irma okay? Yeah. I mean, I didn't really sit on her. Don't worry. I was like, as a cat owner wise, you don't, I, they were in my bed when they were kittens. I never crushed them. So that's all you got to know.

Okay. Can you, can you, can you real quick, can you just put the mic up to Irma just so we can check if she's okay? Meow. We love the Finchman. Meow. I love when the Finchman kills the dog in alien three. Oh, you would Irma.

Irma. Um, let me ask you this as a, as a dog owner, what do you feed your dog? Are you like a dry food, wet food, kind of a mix? Dry food. My dog has some allergies. She is what they call in the medical community clinically stinky. Been there. She, uh, she, because she has allergies, it makes her like run at a higher temperature.

And so she sweats more and then like dogs when they sweat, they like smell like bread. It's, it's, it's no good. So I have to give her like, uh, salmon food. Salmon is the only thing she's not allergic to. So I'm shelling out the big bucks. For the salmon kibble, but she loves it. It's, it's as if I'm giving her a steak every single day. Wow.

Wow. Yeah. That rules. Um, I had to buy like a special bowl to slow her down on the feeding because if not, she'll like swallow it within one second. They got that for cats too. I, I was, I was saying that I wish that I, instead of 90, because we're 98 degrees, right? Is the human body.

Mm hmm. A little too hot. I wish that I ran cooler. You know what would be good templates? 85 degrees. Whoa. Okay. Pretty cool.

Slow down turbo. I mean, I think clinically dead, right? If you're 85 degrees. I think so. But, but also I think it's 85 degrees Celsius. I think that's, I think it's a different scale. Yeah. Okay.

Which is, which would be very hot. Kind of tough to bake, tough to bake anything in 85 degrees. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Just kind of generally warming something. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, yeah, I guess I think it's like outside temperature. But wait, hold on. Why? Cause I got a question first, please. Lauren G. So you're allergic to cats. Your girlfriend's got a cat. What, how has that worked?

Have you ever thought about getting the shots? Cause you can get just like Hanford who was deathly allergic to bees. But he loved bees. So he went and got, so he got treated by the allergist so that he could so that he could get, he could touch and be with bees as much as he'd like. I didn't know that was even possible. Yeah, me either. I think it is possible.

Ah, but you know what? I shouldn't, I'm so going to get corrected. Just like, just like we got yelled at today for making fun of it, stay home parents, which we never would do. No. I'm going to get yelled at for making fun of, I, I, I are getting this wrong or whatever. I, I, look, look, we're in the, this, this is in the deep, this is in the distant past, but we had a couple, we were like talking about like fucking rich parents.

Like we're talking specifically about like, like rich, uh, people who don't have to work and they have a kid, but they have like a nanny taking care of them. And so they can go out to lunch and pay $70 for a fucking cocktail while they're wearing yoga pants in the middle of a weekday. That's what we're talking about. And then someone gets mad on our Instagram. Well, you know, we're, we're not, we're, come on. We're not, we're not bad.

We're not, I mean, we're bad in different ways. Yes. No argument there. We're pretty awful. I think that you can get the shots, but look, you got a, you got, you got dog, you got cat, you're, you're living the life. You got, you got, you got both options. Yeah.

I, I do, I don't take the shot. I do take a claritin every day. There you go. Okay. A daily claritin. A daily claritin. You can do that. You don't even have to ask your doctor.

Well, I guess you probably should. How does, how do you feel on a claritin once a day? Is it, do you get drowsy or do you feel good? No, I don't feel any different at all. I feel like I have less hives. That is, that's my reaction to cats. It, I was a, I was, I only found this out recently because I thought it was a miracle. I thought I stopped being allergic to cats, but it was mostly just that the cat wouldn't

let me touch it. And so I wasn't having allergic reactions to it. But it's not like, it's not like sneeze-y stuff. It's like, like hives, like big, painful. Yeah. Yeah. That's a bummer. But so far, so good with a claritin.

Can you hear that? Yeah, we can. Is that, is that more Irma? Is that Irma purring? That's, yeah, that's Irma. Wow. It wasn't me. Well, I didn't, I couldn't see the cat because your cat is slightly below frame,

so I couldn't see which cat it was. Yes, it's Irma. She's, she's back and that's why I'm out of frame. I'm leaned back here. Lauren, have you ever been to a cat cafe? Absolutely. I have. You have?

I have, yes. I've been to a cat cafe. I've been to a hedgehog cafe. I've been to a dog cafe. A hedgehog cafe. Yeah, in Japan, there's a hedgehog cafe. Wow. In Tokyo.

Look, I'm going to be honest with you. I, I didn't have anything. So I went with, have you been to a cat cafe? I never thought it would pay off like it just did. This is incredible. Yeah, that's fucking amazing. I don't even want to go to a cafe unless there's going to be some kind of themed animals that I could pet.

Wait a minute. A hedgehog cafe in Japan, were you at Sega? Oh boy. That's right. Back to my gold rings. A hedgehog cafe. I mean, that is, you got to tell us about it. What the hell was going on?

Very, very cute. You get in and it's like you, you're in there for an hour and it's like technically a cafe because you get a drink, but nobody's drinking anything. You're in there petting, you're petting little guys. Interesting. And they promise that they rotate them out so that they're only being pet for like an hour a day,

but I still feel, it still feels a little odd, a little weird with cats and dogs. It's like they're coming up to you, but with a, with a hedgehog, it's like they're straight up in captivity. They just put much of a choice, but they're so cute. And you get, you get like a pair of tweezers and some little like grubs to feed them. And they're just, they're just the cutest things you've ever seen.

We'd probably get yelled at wise for eating the grubs. Oh yeah. I'd sneak a grub. Do you, can you, so you can just pet a hedgehog? They're not like prickly? No, no, they're, they're not like a porcupine. It's a porcupine my man. You think it's a porcupine?

I know, I know there's, I know porcupines exist, but I thought hedgehogs also were like a little spiny. They're a little spiny, but they're not like, they're not ouch spiny. Got it. They don't have quills. Yeah, they're not like prickly. Do they have quills?

I don't know if they do or not. They're very expressive faces also. Like when they're eating very, very expressive faces. Like they are loving it. They're loving that little grub you're giving them. I pet Wally and Irma. I pet Irma like 11 hours a day and then Wally also 11 hours a day. So I go from one to the other.

So, and then take a two hour nap. Are they, are they biscuit making cats? Oh, they make biscuits. They do everything. You gotta make a biscuit. While he's been sleepy, he's upstairs. My comforter goes over the bed. He like pulls it under the bed and sleeps in the comforter under the bed.

But he's been kind of sleeping the last couple of days. He did go, he just had a vet appointment, which once you think something's wrong, you're always just so scared that something, you know what I mean? Like you're terrified at anything they do, but I'm also like, oh yeah, they always just sleep for like 15 hours a day or whatever. If not more like 16 or 17 hours. But look, I love the little guys.

Mine don't eat human food, which bums me out. And I wish that they did. Have you seen those TikToks where like people are feeding kittens like raw meat? It's like an ASMR thing because you just hear. Oh, wow. It's very fascinating. It's kind of grotesque actually. If especially if you don't like mouth chewing sounds, you're in trouble.

Kittens can eat raw meat. According to this TikTok. Wow. Well, we don't believe in misophonia on this podcast. Yeah. I guess this is heavily eating involved podcast. Yeah. We call it missy phony.

Exactly. Lean on the phony. Yeah. Actually, we had a doctor email us. Why? Did we talk about that? I don't think so. Yeah.

We also just someone was like, hey, I am a doctor and it is real. You're upsetting people. Let me see your credentials. That's what I said. Dr. Green. Anyone can say they're a doctor on an email. Exactly. I do it all the time.

All the time. Anyone can say they're a stay at home parent. Yeah, right. Show me the kid. Why is that? I got a good question. And you know what? It's a thing we don't really talk about much, but bakeries.

Lauren, what's your thought on bakeries? Where do you stand on bakeries? You're like a baked good. Are you a carb enthusiast? I am, unfortunately, a huge carb enthusiast. Yeah, wow. To my own detriment. Yeah, same.

It's tough. I love it. Love bread. Oh, can't get enough. Can't get enough from the sweet treat. Yeah. It's, I have like, I come from like a long line of women with diabetes, so I'm always trying to rein it in.

But it's tough, especially at night. At night is when the sugar worm comes out, which is the worm that lives inside me that tells me that I have to get up and look at the fridge at two in the morning. What are your specific cravings? Like, what do you like the most from the bakery? Just from general, from a general bakery. I mean, I love a cookie.

Like, I want the sugar to be like as compact as possible. Yeah, cookies are fucking good. I apologize. I just, I was petting her when I, and I definitely just got her butt hole there, unfortunately. Jesus. I didn't have to tell anyone either, but I don't know if people heard me go,

Do you want to go wash your hands? No, that's okay. He's going to eat with those hands later. You're not going to wash them. I'm not as much of a sweet treat guy as much as I am. We stopped down for Mitch to wash his hands. Okay, I'm back. Liar.

Anyone can say anything on the internet. I'm not as much of a sweet treat guy. Don't get me wrong. I like pastries and all that, but here's what I like. It's funny because like, you know, bakeries barely exist anymore. And luckily in LA, there's a lot of great,

kind of cool, interesting bakeries, including today's. I don't know if it's my favorite, but you know, we got portos out here, two y's, there's a lot of different things, a lot of different places. And local bakeries, just back in Quincy, I'm thinking of like, I used to go to,

I think it was O'Brien's bakery, and they made these great cookies. And now I'm like, I can't, I know one other bakery, maybe two bakeries in Quincy, but like so many of them have shut down. They just get, you know, like supermarkets, grocery stores have just kind of, there is a bakery in the grocery store now.

I just feel like they've kind of got destroyed. But if you want, I feel like if you want the best version of a baked good, it still is at that local bakery, no matter what. It's like, it's like the, it's like what happened with butcher shops. There used to be designated butcher shops everywhere, and then they got absorbed into, to, to grocery stores.

But now there's a resurgence of like the artisan butcher shop that's like appealing to a more high-end clientele. And the same thing has kind of happened with bakeries. There's, you know, there's places like, I'm thinking of, of Conby is one of them. That's like, you know, like a local, a local chain that's got, that's got baked goods

that's a little bit newer on the scene. There's, there's a, yeah, there's, I feel like that, that, that pattern has happened. But yeah, the, like the, kind of the old school classic butcher, or a classic baker and butcher, you know, those, those old school jobs, those, those places, those indicated businesses have mostly fallen by the wayside. I remember going to the butcher.

Sad. I remember, I remember going to the butcher shop. A huge smile on your face. Time for some meat. Can you show where the animals are killed? We don't do that here kid. The butcher's like, uh, you might not watch me as I butcher this.

Cut it up nice. Can I get a skin? Um, I, it's sad to me that bakeries disappeared. I'm trying, I'm, there are a few now that I'm, that I'm thinking of in Quincy, but a lot went away. Yeah. But for me, Lauren, I'm more of, I'm just, I love bread. I love, I love bread so much.

And look, I'm not going to turn down a cookie. And there was a cookie, there was like a yellow cookie with chocolate sprinkles at that bakery that I like still think about as an adult. I used to get a mocha frappe wigs at Brigham. That'll be your last, your last thought before you die. Honestly, maybe. Could do a lot worse.

I think my last thought before I die is probably, I can't believe I took out wiger. I got this, this has to end now. And then in that dark day. But, but for me, more so bread, pizza, which the bakery in Quincy does have pizza and in bagels. I'm a huge bagel nut. Like, but yeah, but I love, Lauren, I'm with you.

Who doesn't love carbs? I mean, carbs, they're fucking delicious. I lost so much weight when I was eating like no carbs. I was like, I was so, I got so lean. I got, you look at like year one dough boys photos and I was like a fucking, I was like a thin man. I was like a skinny guy. I was like fucking Joe Saunders.

Like if you can't have carbs, you're just eating like meat and vegetables and that's it. Yeah, pretty much. Like, you know, whatever. Honestly, did you say you're like Joe Saunders? Hold the phone. All right, well, I was like, you looked good, but you didn't look Joe Saunders, good.

Nice try. I was a little beefier Joe Saunders, but I was certainly a lot slimmer than I was, that I am today. But I just, and I got to that point and once I started eating, the problem is it's unsustainable because once I started eating carbs again, I was like, fuck, these are so fucking good. How do I ever live without these?

And you're just craving them the whole time. And it's so like, yeah, I don't know. I don't think like a, it works in the short to medium term, but eventually you're going to put that weight back on if you, unless you can permanently kind of restrain your carb consumption and I can't fucking do it. So I have to think there are better ways to manage your waistline. What I was going to say is we're talking about breads, Mitch.

And to shout out another local bakery, Bub and Grandma here in LA has, they just have some fantastic loaves. They sell loaves is a weird, I guess that is the way to say bread. They have loaves. I know, I get that they have loaves. It's just this weird coming from you, but. That's the unit.

Unit has one loaf. All right. One loaf. Why loaf singular? I know. I'm just joking. One loaf. So that is on store shelves too though, right?

I don't know if they're in retail. I mean, I've got, I usually get from the farmers market, but it's, but they have like a deli here. But yeah, it isn't like another place where it's like, I don't know whatever their distribution is. It's like one of those, again, one of those local, you know, new wave artisan bakeries. That's like, since we're in the post keto craze kind of,

we're kind of the post Atkins craze phase of people are eating breads again. Yeah, they're just, they're doing some nice loaves. I get, I have some fucking fantastic sandwiches on that Bub and Grandma's bread. You show me a pic of it. I, so, and it looks good. You guys are sharing sandwich pics? I love that.

Yeah. Yeah, it's basically. We like, we look, we talk, we're on text threads together. When we started this podcast, why is this like, I like Mitch and I haven't like, I don't, you know, I don't see him a ton. And now like we talk every single day. Yeah. That's okay.

That's good. Is it, you think that? I can't tell if you do think that. But, but I, I got Montelio's and Quincy Wags and they make pizza at Montelio. They make a pretty good pizza. But I was just thinking, I was like, oh, there's not a ton of bakeries in Quincy. And then I look it up and there are, and this is on me. You know what I mean?

And this isn't any sort of xenophobia. It's honestly, I've been out of the city for a long time, but a lot of the bakeries are Asian bakeries. That's, that's the, that's the big difference now. And I should check more of them out. Because there's Montelio's and there's like a couple more. Candida Meister was always one that like made fancy cakes. And then Montelio's kind of does everything.

And a great name to Candida Meister. That's like where you'll get like, people will get like wedding cakes or fancy cakes or whatever. But I'm like, oh, I just haven't, I haven't, I haven't checked out some of these other Asian bakeries. And here's the deal with it. And the thing that I, that I noticed with today's bakery is there are, there's some great stuff.

And there are a lot of interesting different dishes that I don't normally eat. And even, even basic stuff like sliced white bread, some of it tastes, some of it, there's like, and I'm not sure, I'm not sure what it is. I don't know if it's, you know, cultural differences or, or what the deal is. But some of the bread like, like will be sweeter. There's like white bread that's sweeter. And it might not even be cultural differences. It might just be by bakery or whatever.

But there's some stuff that's, that just tastes different. And it's, it's interesting. It's cool. It's good. And you can find some stuff that are really great, including, I'm sure we'll talk about it, the egg, the egg custard, which I think is their 85 degree bake, it's there kind of like their Big Mac, right? It feels like it comes in these boxes that like really promote them. So that's why I felt like it's their, one of their bigger things.

But I think you're right. Yes. I think that's one of their staple items. Yeah. It's probably one of the things, things they're pushing along with their, their sea salt coffee, which is another one. But look, we got a lot to discuss about 85 degrees. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to take a break. No, no, no, no break. We're having fun.

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Welcome back to Doughboys. We are here with, I guess, Lauren McGuire, discussing 85 degrees bakery cafe founded in 2004 in Taipei. The name is a reference mix to the chain's ideal temperature for coffee in Celsius, obviously. There are 1,000 stores worldwide. This chain is huge. 900 of the chains are in China. 900 of the rest locations are in China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong.

The remainder are in the US and Australia. Lauren, I want to get your thoughts on 85 degrees and why you pitched this chain. But before we do that, another chain you talked about doing that there's only a couple of, but is beloved here in LA, is GMLs. Oh, baby, GMLs. GMLs is my go-to. I want to impress someone who isn't from here. I'm taking them to GMLs.

I impressed my girlfriend. I met my girlfriend's dad for the first time. Got him GMLs. He was in the palm of my hand. What do you get from GMLs? I'm so glad you asked. The Mr. G's is incredible. It's like a bunch of different deli meats.

I don't even really know what. I think there's some salami in there. It comes with some kind of provolone cheese. And then the best part is they have two different kinds of mayo. One is a red pepper mayo and one is a pesto mayo. Both are delicious. So I order that and I get no pickles because I'm a no pickle gal, unfortunately. No pickles.

I know. I hate this about myself. I want to like pickles. That's fair. Mitchell, you're a GMLs fan? So here's the funny thing. The first time I had GMLs, I didn't like it. Wow.

But. Fighting words, Mitch. I've gone mad. It was awkward because you were meeting your daughter's girlfriend, right? I was meeting Irma's father. Right, yeah. Wait, I was meeting my daughter's... Wait, what did you say?

Your daughter's girlfriend. My daughter's girlfriend? Irma's girl? What are you doing? Never mind. It's okay. It's okay. Oh. I finally got it.

I finally got it. Mr. Jesus, Soprasada, Salami, Capicolo, as well as cheese and veggies. The bread is amazing. I just recently, for the first time, tried the pizza. Pizza was pretty good, but the subs are the star. The subs are the star. I went back and I tried it again and I did enjoy it quite a bit. I liked GMLs quite a bit.

What's your... So wait, what's your go-to? Your go-to was the same, which Weiger just said? The Mr. G's. Yeah. Mr. G's. Sounds like Mr. G's. So what would you...

So that's what you would suggest for anyone going there for the first time? Absolutely. All right. Yeah. Well, I get it. I don't think I've ever had that still. So I think I have to... I got to go back and try it, Weig's.

Mr. G's of the deli, Mr. F at the cinema, because we love the Finch Man. So Lauren, why did you want to talk about 85 degrees? Well, I'm glad you asked it. It's on the way to my Pilates class. Perfect. I go there a lot because I want a little sweet treat after my Pilates. And what I love about it, I usually just get the drinks like some type of boba situation,

what I really enjoy about it is that it's very customizable in terms of the level of sweetness. It's huge, yes. Which is great. Like a lot of times if you go to Starbucks or whatever and you want to get like, you know, hazelnut latte, the hazelnut is the sugar. So if you want to like cut down on the sugar, you're also getting less flavor. Whereas this place is like, my favorite is their rose milk tea. And it's using like rose leaves in it.

So you can cut the sugar, but you still get the nice rose flavor. And then you got to put that boba in there, baby. Yeah, I love the boba, even though it's like another 200 calories. But I just like... Don't tell me that. It's fucking great. But I will sometimes, if I want like a milk tea, and I'll do this even from 85 degrees, because the 85 degrees is in the same complex as the AMC that we will go to.

We'll go see movies at Nelly and I. And so a lot of times it'll be like a post-movie treat. Like I hop in there and grab a pastry or some sort of hot or cold drink. But I find myself when I get like a hot version of a milk tea, it doesn't work with the boba. So that cuts that right out. And then I can usually adjust the sweetness down even further to like, you know, half quarter sweet. And it'll still be, you know, it'll still get the job done.

So I feel like I'm having a little bit less of a calorie bomb, but still having a little bit of a treat. Yeah. As much as I love sugar, I don't love to drink my sugar. I like to eat it. Yeah. I'm not a fan of the jellies. Interesting.

Yeah, I think the jellies have their place. I've had some decent jellies, but I think with all things that's contextual. I think like, you know, certainly a more of a boba partisan, but I'll mix it up with a jelly on occasion. Jelly is like, jelly is chaos and boba is order. The texture of the jellies is like, oh, there's like an, you feel like edges on it because a lot of them are square. But then it's like, oh, I don't know.

I don't know. It's still squishy chaos, chaos on my mouth. Yeah. Well, while we're on the topic of boba, let's get into our drinks at our visits to 85 degrees. So I got myself something that I, you know, I wouldn't normally get, but I decided to go for it for the purposes of this exercise. I got the tiger boba latte, which is a, it's like a milk with boba and brown sugar. And it's kind of like, you know, the way it's presented,

it kind of looks like tiger stripes. I believe that's where it gets his name. I did some soy milk, but I didn't adjust the sweetness. So I got the full potency of the tiger boba latte. And to your point, McGuire, it is a lot. It is like very, very sugary. It's like dessert sugary. It's like big flurry sugary.

And it's just, it's just a little much for me. Like I, I think this place actually recommends 50% as their, as their sugar. Or maybe I'm thinking, I mean, I'm thinking of a different place. But like, you know, I've certainly been to boba places where they recommend, like they, they offer 100% sweetness, but their recommended level is less than that. This definitely feels like one where unless you're a complete sugar fiend, unless you're a hummingbird level sugar consumer, I would probably adjust it down from 100%.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Some of the, some of their drinks are like, you know, tea based or coffee based. And those ones, when you scale down on the sugar, I feel like it's good. But then there, there are certain things that are powder based and the powder itself's got the sugar in it. So you're, you can't, you can't really.

Yeah. There's not much you can do. Yeah. Yeah. You get like warnings about some of them. I, I, I got a, I got a few drinks. Why is one, which I realized was forgotten. Um, which was the, the drink.

It's true. Yeah. Forgotten drink. That, that happens on the podcast. That guy will come in. Yeah. Yeah. Lauren, I don't know if you know that, but that guy will come in and sit when you,

when you forget, when something is forgotten. Okay. The forgotten guy comes. Forgotten drink. Is it going to come in my house? Uh, hopefully not. Hopefully you didn't forget anything. Okay.

He is terrifying. He's scary as shit. Yeah. Fuck. He's kind of like the Babadook or like the very tall man. Like, uh, he's just like a big monster. Yeah. But, uh, he just, he just wants people to know that they forgot something.

But the forgotten drink was the 85 degree coffee, the bottled coffee. Hmm. Um, which felt like kind of a, it felt like one of their, it felt like kind of like, oh, I should, I gotta get this. Is there, they're bottled 85 degree coffee. Didn't get it, but I did get two other coffees. I got a hot, um, mocha medium with whole milk. Uh, and the mocha was good, very sweet, um, but, but it was a tasty, tasty coffee.

And then this, the other one I got was a peach green tea. I got that large. And this was one that like, I was warned about the sugar level. And I did normal sugar and it almost could have been sweeter, weirdly. Um, like, uh, like it was, it, it was kind of not as sweet as us. Cause it was like, there was a sugar warning about it. And then, and then the normal sugar was kind of just was, was fine. Um, and that had mango jelly in the bottom of it,

which felt like just kind of cut up pieces of mango. Um, chaos. I'm telling you. Yeah. And wise, you know, next time, maybe I, I wouldn't miss with the mango. Mango meets Finch man. Oh man. Cross over event of the century.

That's man, that would be big. That'd be huge. Fincher is like in love with mango. Isn't that what happened with mango? Like everyone fell in love with mango. Yeah. Yeah. That's, um, like a siren.

Little pepila pew. I think I liked the mocha more than I liked the peach green tea overall. But, you know, to reach, to each their own, um, I don't know if people would agree with me on that, but I, but I, but I enjoy the mocha. Um, that's, that's it for my drinks. Lauren, did you get any drinks? Yeah, I got the, I branched out from my normal, um, iced rose milk tea, which I always get, uh, a half or quarter sugar.

It's delicious. Um, but this time I got the iced taro latte and got it half sweet. And it was still like melted ice cream, um, which is delicious, but it's a lot. It's, it's certainly not. And then if you're going to eat like a bunch of little pastry treats on top of it, ooh, I'm about to go into a sugar coma. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a lot of, I mean, this, this is the thing.

It's, it's exactly what you were just saying. It's, it's like compound interest. It's like, if you get the, if you, you're getting a bunch of sweet treats, uh, in pastry form, and then you're also getting that liquid sugar, it's, it's too much. Uh, that said, I think they do do good. Like, you know, just like more, just straight ahead. Cause they have all these, they, you know, again, I mentioned the sea salt coffee. They've got a bunch of like more elaborate, um, beverages, but I think that you can also

get some stuff that's a little bit more straight ahead. And, uh, uh, you know, might be just like a little bit of a work is a little bit of an antidote to the, uh, to the pastries you're having. If you are having pastries and to, to, to paint a picture for anyone who hasn't been to this, this chain. So basically what you're seeing when you walk in is it's not like the, the, the, the, the baked goods are behind a counter and you're ordering the counter. Everything's out in display cases and you can kind of go around, you pick up a tray

and you can kind of go around and pick your items up and fill up your tray and then bring your tray up to, uh, the front. And, uh, you know, most of the stuff is pre-packaged in plastic. There's a few things in the cold case. There's also items like, you know, you can buy packs of like rolls and, and loaves of bread. Uh, but mo, for the most part, they're like individual pastries that you're selecting. Um, and so, uh, let's get into the food side of the menu. I got a few different things and, uh, Natalie got some things as well.

I'll just kind of run through mine. Um, I got there from, from a sweet standpoint, I got the matcha red bean roll, uh, which is a, uh, a, a sponge cake. It was like a sponge cake rolled up. It kind of looked like a, it was, you know, it was a tube form factor. Um, and, uh, I also got a milk tea bun. Uh, a mochi egg tart and a strawberry cream square. And that was one of the ones from the cold case.

Uh, the mochi egg tart is, uh, is like the, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's one of the ones that, like, we talked about, you were talking about egg tarts earlier, and this is just one of the variations on it. They come in a special little box. Well, the egg tarts do. The egg tarts do, but you can get, you can also get individual ones. And that was what I grabbed. I got an individual one for the display case.

Um, what'd you think of it? Cause I thought the egg tart was maybe my bite of the night. I thought it was, I liked, I liked it quite a bit. I think the egg tart is delightful. I think the, the, that the crust is nice and flaky. I think that, you know, I, I like that sort of sweet egg flavor. It's, you know, it's, it's kind of akin to a, uh, to a, to a cheesecake, but less sweet. And like a little less, um, pungent, you know, and I think that egg tart is delightful.

I, they worked with mochi. I think that was one of my favorites, but I think I'm such a milk tea fan that the milk tea bun and the way it was executed, cause it had like, you know, it was a milk tea bread, but then it has like a, like a, a brown sugar, um, and cream sort of filling. And, uh, it was just like a, it was just a really wonderful mix of flavors. So that one was my favorite. The matcha red bean roll, you know, I do like red bean.

I think the main issue there is it just was too dry. It was a dry guy. The way it looked up, it was like rolled up with layers of creams. So you kind of expect it to have a little bit of, um, you know, moisture, but it, but it was just kind of biting into a dry log. And the strawberry cream square was nice. It was just very, a very conventional sort of dessert. Biting into a dry log.

Yeah. No, that makes sense. Yeah. As opposed to like a wet log or like a waterlogged log. You could find a wet log. Yeah. So I know you can. It's been raining.

Beavers do it every day. I know. A beaver will bite, a beaver will bite into a, uh, uh, uh, yes. A beaver will bite into a log. That's, that's what I'm saying. Like there are moments where people, things have bit into a wet log. I, I got, it sounded, this all sounded too, it all sounded too dirty. That's why I didn't want to keep saying it.

Talking about, it sounds disgusting. I went down, I didn't even mean to single it out for being disgusting. Okay. But I'm saying, I was singling up for you saying a dry log. If the log is dry, it'd be a red bean. But if the log is wet, a beaver you've seen. Very good. Yeah, that's good.

But, but to your point earlier, Mitch, I'm just like, okay. Who's that rhyme for? I don't know if you're ever confused about whether a log is dry or wet. So as a person being like, hey, did I just bite into that pastry that's dry or is it, or am I seeing a beaver? Yeah, or am I a beaver? Or am I a beaver? People forget sometimes.

I, I, to your point, Mitch, the matcha red bean, these are kind of like, you know, and you're seeing more and more matcha stuff in western baking, baking these days, I feel like, I feel like that's a flavor that's kind of like, and also like ice creams, you know, you'll, you'll see that be used more. But these are flavors that you will often see in like, oh, this is like an Asian bakery, or this is like, this is the dessert at the, at the Chinese restaurant. It uses red bean. This isn't something that, that's as common.

And I like it. I like red bean. I mean, I like, I like when I come across it. I think this was a good execution of flavors. I think it's just the, just the absence of moisture made it not a great, not a tasty bite. I'll say this, the 85 degree egg tart, I thought that was going to be more savory than sweet. I guess I'm, I'm just not used to egg tarts, you know, I don't eat a lot of egg tarts, but it is a sweet treat just so everyone knows, which I, which, which I, which I didn't know.

But I, I got, trust me, I got my fair share of, of savouries. Um, cause I got the savory five piece boxat wigs. Wow. Oh, I've never had that. What's in it? A potato croquette, a cheese dog, a garlic cheese, which is just like a long bread piece. That's garlic and cheese, ham and cheese and bacon and cheese. And here, I'll show you a picture of it here.

This is, and you're probably going to look at it and say, this doesn't look great. And I think you're probably right. Um, so here's, here's three of them. Okay. So it looks like, yeah, I, I, I recognize that sausage there. There's actually two sausages and then one long boy. So, so that one of them was the dog. See the one with the one in the middle, I think that this is a, this is the sausage one.

And it was probably, it was actually my favorite. And I got this instead, instead of the potato croquet. Natalie got that too. And she loved it. I think they were maybe just out of the potato croquet. And then, yeah, it was, it was fucking great. And then here's the other one. And then this is the bacon one and the ham and cheese one.

The ham and cheese one is probably my runner up. I didn't, I did not expect to love the sausage one as much as I did, but that was number one. Their meats are surprisingly good for a bakery. Right. Yeah. But a couple of these, there were a couple of these that I was like, ew, like a, like a, even, it's also that weird temperature where it's like kind of room temp and you want it warmer. You know what I mean?

Like, I'm like, maybe heat this up to 85 degrees or whatever. You know what I mean? Like a, get it, get a little bit, get a little bit warmer. But, well, I think again, some of the stuff I think you're supposed to take home and maybe, you know, heat up in a microwave yourself or whatever. Well, that's, I did heat up, I heated up basically all of them. Um, the, uh, this, this garlic cheese one was kind of a bomber, especially for one that I thought was kind of going to be easy.

And the hot dog one was not, was not great. And the bacon one was also kind of, but there were some, there were some highs amongst this box. But that was my, uh, that was my savory. Did, did any of you guys get savory? Any, any, any wise, I know that you're not doing red meat. I did make an allowance for a hot dog and, which I'll do on occasion, look at the shout out to our discord moderator, fish, uh, who is a hot dog a day guy, huge, uh, huge, huge hot dog consumer.

Uh, he's got hot dogs on the brain because he's, uh, for me because he's always talking about him. And I spotted that cheese dog and now he was getting one. I was like, you know what? I fucking, I'll try one of these. Um, good. Don't feel bad about it. That's nice.

It's got a, it's got cheddar and mozzarella and then it's baked with ketchup. So that's like an element of it, um, which is wild. Yeah. I think this is pretty good. I, I mean, I, you know, like a look, I, I, I don't think you go here for the savory side is what I'll say. Like I don't think that's the reason to go to 85 degrees. Um, this certainly wouldn't really serve.

I guess you're probably right. This could maybe be like a breakfast and a pinch, I guess, but I don't know. Yeah. I don't, I don't really quite know its purpose. It's that sort of thing where I'm like, Oh, you guys should, like what they should do here is cut out a few of these savory things. And then like that sausage and ham on, which are great. And I'm sure there's people who like other ones.

So don't, but I'm like, if you just had a couple of savory options like that, that are kind of like, you know, uh, they're, they're performing at a high level. Then yeah, that's cause, cause I think I agree with you that more so it's the non, the, the non-savory stuff, the sweet stuff. That's really what you, you know, the coffee and the, and some croissants or whatever. Or an egg tart. I, I will say this though, I was also severely disappointed by one of my sweet treats. Um, but Lauren, did you get any savory?

Oh yeah. I also got the cheese dog mostly because, um, I came, I came a little later in the day. So I think kind of missed the rush. There was, there was like not as many items out. Um, but I have to disagree with you. I love the two stupid hot dog things. Yeah. Um, I don't really cook meat in my house.

So like pretty much anytime I eat meat is like, oh, that is, that is in the spot. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm going to tell you what was a bummer to me. Yeah. Oh, my blueberry muffin. And I ate my blueberry muffin the next day. And I'm just going to show you here's, all right, here's the blueberry muffin.

Here's the blueberry muffin. There it is. Looks good. Yeah. It looks good. It looks like a lot of blueberries cut it, cut it open to put some butter on there. Okay. And that's the inside of the muffin.

Why no blueberries inside. It seems like the blueberries are all on the periphery. Yeah. Um, and I put some butter on it and it was so disappointing because it probably would have been my favorite, like as far as the taste goes, if there were blueberries throughout, it would have been my favorite, but they're just on the top. You can't do that. You can't just be on the top.

You know, I think might have happened in the bakery, Mitch. Well, they're preparing that one. Um, they were like, forgotten blueberry. They just forgot to throw them in. I think you're right. That's my theory. Yeah. Forgotten guy was there.

Yeah. Finch man was there. It was a mess. Cheeseburger, cheeseburger guy was there. Everybody was there. Mango was there. Mango was there. Coneheads.

But, uh, mank was there. Mank. Yeah. Mank was also there. Um, but not enough bloobs, wigs. Not enough bloobs. Yeah. That's a bummer.

Yeah. Oops. No berries is more like it. They pull an opposite of Captain Crunch. That's a hell of a noops. They should just start calling regular Captain Crunch oops, no berries. Or it should be correct, no berries.

Lauren, what else did, what sweet treats did you get? Here's, here's Wally, by the way, now. Hi, Wally. Hey, Wally. Oh, he's so cute. Um, I got the matcha cocoa bun. Which was like, oh, I wish I had a picture of it, but it is, it's horrifying to look at.

Because it is green on top, and it's green in such a way that it 100% looks like mold. But it is delicious. And when you bite into it, it's like chocolate and matcha, which is great. Matcha is not, is like something I didn't discover until my adulthood, and I'm like, I'm into it. Yeah.

Wow. Is it stuffed, right? It has like some cream in there. Okay, got it. Yeah, it's stuffed. And then I got a, like, a little mini pineapple, they call it a pineapple cake, but I would say it's more like a shortbread stuffed with pineapple,

which is pretty good if you're a pineapple lover. In fact, I really, really wanted to try the Hawaiian, they had like a Hawaiian chicken savory pastry that I really wanted to try, but they did not have it by the time I got there. I do feel like I like it because I'm a gross person who likes like pineapple on pizza, so I feel like I would, I feel like I'd be into it.

Hey, no objections from me. I'm into pineapple on pizza. Give me that spicy Hawaiian. Here's, here's, here's, here's what I like. Pineapple, jalapeno, and bacon. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'll do, if I'm not doing meat, we'll do like a pineapple, jalapeno, and onion, and that's a,

that's a nice one too. Yeah. All right. If you are doing meat, you're saying. No, if we're not doing meat. Wait, oh, pineapple, jalapeno, and onion, sorry. Yeah. I thought you said pepperoni.

I said onion, you heard pepperoni? I think I, I think I heard pepperoni for pineapple. Doesn't matter. Look. The man is just thinking about pepperoni. I'm just thinking about pepperoni. Not where I said pepperoni. Did I say pepperoni?

You didn't say pepperoni. You did not, you did not, you did not. You didn't say it. I, I didn't get any matcha. I didn't, I didn't get anything matcha, which now I feel left out on. But I did, I got, like I said, I got the egg custard. But I got a couple slices of cake wigs.

I got two different slices of cake. And I kind of wish I went different with each of them, but I got a cherry chocolate mousse and then a black forest slice. So it was kind of like chocolate and berry, where I should have gone just one straight up chocolate. Yeah. I liked the black forest more than I liked the cherry chocolate mousse, which is the cherry chocolate mousse was like a special.

Um, the, the, the black forest has had a better consistency to it. And I wish that I got the just, I just wish I got like an all chocolate slice of cake. Yeah. Um, both pretty good though, both, both were decent. Um, and that just doesn't, that just about does it for me, except I got a couple things of toast. Now, when you say toast, you mean you're getting the, the, their loaves of bread, their untoasted bread. Yes, but they, but they, they're called toast.

Yeah. I did the same thing. I got some multigrain toast. Lauren, did you get any, any toast, any loaves? That that was an option, but I will next time. There's sometimes tucked away. This is my whole thing about, about how the bread was sweeter was, was it comes from this, this white toast.

It has some inherent sweetness. Even the multigrain one is like a, it's like slightly sweet. And I think that's because it's intended to be had as like, again, it's, it's supposed to be eaten like kind of as a pastry. I'm just inferring. But I will say as such, so I had some sandwiches with it. I had some toast with it. It was all fine.

Where this was a standout and was absolutely delightful. I saw this. Is I made some French toast with it. And it actually worked perfectly for French toast. It was, it was delightful. I used some, some syrup that Emma sent from Maine. I threw on some Mitch, no, no blueberries were forgotten. Piled on a bunch of fresh blueberries.

It was great. That was some great French toast. Um, um, syrup from Maine, you say, huh? Yeah. Um, I did not make any. What was that? What was, what did you just say? What was that?

I want some of the syrup from Maine. She sent you some. I don't think I got any syrup from Maine. Look, you got some. I know for a fact you got some. She sent you some to you. She sent some to me and she sent some to Susser. I gotta say this, former host, former, uh, former.

Don't go accusing Emma when she, if Emma was here, you'd be, you'd be so scared. You would not even float the theory that she didn't send you the syrup. Hold on. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to float any fucking theory. Well, sounds like it. Um, she sent you the syrup. You just, you just misplaced it.

Or you have it somewhere in the, you have it somewhere in your new house and you just don't know where it is exactly. Conspiracy. Conspiracy. You and Susser are fucking rolling in syrup. I'm over here fucking syrupless bitch. Forgotten syrup. Former, uh, friend of the podcast, Current Ghost, new song.

That's right. Uh, huge matcha fan. Loves matcha. Um, it does sometimes maybe, it maybe does scare me off too much. I, I, but I always enjoy it when I have it. Uh, there's some things I don't enjoy, but I should have tried it. The bread wigs, you plus it up like sandwiches of history. You plus this thing up.

Yeah. I, I didn't, I didn't, what, what, honestly, what a great thought. I, um, I didn't plus mine up and, uh, and I thought it was just okay. I just, I did toast, I did, I toasted it and had and put butter on it. And I thought it was okay. A thick, it's also a thick piece of toast. And I'm sure you saw that with your, when you made the French toast. Yes.

That's just part of why it worked. But, but I think, I think we're on the same page here as you. Cause I would also say like it's just okay in its regular state. I'm looking at the price right now to see how much it paid for this flow. Is it sort of like a Hawaiian bread kind of situation? It's not quite that sweet. It's, it's a little bit more subtle, but it's, it's the same sort of, uh, of, of, of principle. I think, um, okay.

This was only 335 for the loaf. So it's not like an exorbitant, you know, price. It's, it's like, that's like grocery store bread. I just, I wouldn't necessarily get this unless you have a designated purpose for it. Well, wise, that's not the only one I got. I also got the milk, milk chocolate thick toast, which had little pieces of, uh, chocolate chips in it. And it was just okay. Yeah.

I thought that it was going to be great. Um, but like, I love a chocolate chip muffin. I haven't had a chocolate chip muffin in a long time. It's a lot of fun to have a chocolate chip muffin, as you know. It is fun. Um, this wasn't as fun. Yeah. Do you still have some left?

Uh, I offered it to Mookie and then I, and then I eventually threw it away. I was going to say, cause that would be so good as French toast. Yeah, it actually would work well. It really, really would. Yeah. I wonder if that's a whole, the whole point of it. I wonder if it's just meant to be a had for French toast making. I don't know.

Possible. Anyway, that's, that's certainly it's best. It's possible. It's best use case. Um, any other things we haven't covered with, is there any other, any treats we didn't get to? I'm curious, uh, that's everything for me, but I'm curious, either of you have, have the, uh, salt coffee, because I have always been afraid to, I was afraid to try it.

I've had it before, um, I probably talking ocean water. It's no, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's like a, it's like a sea salt, uh, it's like a sea salt caramel ice cream level of salt. Okay. It's like a little bit. Yeah. It's salt, it's salt to cut the sweetness and it's like, cause it's like a sweet cream that they kind of have like a sweet like sort of foam that they have there with, with the salt.

Um, I think it's good. I wouldn't get it again. But that's more just like a, not because it's, it's a bad execution, it's more just, just, you know, my own personal taste. Um, well, let's get to our final thoughts on 85 degrees. So Lauren, here's how this will work. We'll each go around, give her a closing argument, if you will, and then give it a score from zero to five forks.

Five is the highest. You are a guest. We'll begin with you. Okay. Um, so, uh, do I do the forks first? Uh, just if you just want to get, give us sort of a, a, a, a statement on your overall assessment and then give a fork score. Yeah.

I think this place is great to go to if it is on the way to Pilates. And, and you need a snack before or after Pilates. Yeah. It is, it is great. And also it is great if the Porto's line is too long. Uh, I do genuinely enjoy the drinks as long as you make sure you don't get one of the ones with powder that are powder based. Um, I love like the tea, the milk teas and stuff and I love the boba.

Um, but yeah, I would think I would give it a two and a half forks. Two and a half forks. Okay. Right in the middle, right in the meaty part of that curve. Spoon man, what do you think? Um, look, it's tricky for me because I don't because like when, when we were, when we were reviewing a place, why is that like, like I'm not, I'm not sure how, how this is,

is like, I'm not sure how people, like a time when these people would view this bake bakery, right? Like I'm not sure if they love it or not. Um, I think it's fairly well regarded, you know, in, in Taiwan and in mainland China, at least from what I've read. I'm also, it's one of those things where I feel like the American version of a chain will always be the worst version of it. Um, and which I'll, which I'll talk to a little and, and I'll speak to that a

little in my closing thoughts, but please go on. Because there were moments that there were moments of delight. Yeah. And then there were moments where I wanted to spit out the bite. Um, there, there, there were, there were combos of two. There were combos of, of both and it's tricky. I mean, like, like I said, there's like some stuff I'm like, oh, the bread is sweeter, but like also like, fuck, if I had made a French toast on that, if I was

as smart as a man as Ygs, then man, I really would have loved it. I would have loved that French toast with the sweeter bread. It's made the nicest things you've ever said about me. Really? Yeah. That was sweet. After yelling about me about the syrup. Uh.

Uh, I, I, it's, it's tricky to, it's, look, if I was the Finchman, I'd be giving this place a seven because that's what the Finchman does. But, but it's me and culturally I'm a big dumb white doofus. And so I don't, so it is, it is harder for me to, to kind of, I feel like it's a place where I want to, I want to experience it more, but I'm with Lauren right now. For me, it's like two, two point five. Honestly, you kind of nailed it for me is, is two point five. It's slightly lower than what I wanted it to be.

And I think, I think good for, good for coffee. I think maybe just that sort of place of you got to know what you want to get when you go in there. And once you have your regular stuff, you're on your way to Pilates. You get that, you get that order. You're good to go. You know what I mean? And I think I try to hold smorgasbord of stuff and a lot of, there were some highs and a few lows. So, uh, so for me, kind of right in the middle.

Uh, two and a half forks is the consensus so far. I'm going to go a little higher even though I don't love this place. And my issue for not loving this place is this is partly a Natalie observation. If you look at the ingredients list on these pastries, it's so long. And this might be one of those things where it's unique to where this is just how they do it in the U.S. locations, but at least the ones I've been to, they're not baking these things on site. They're being baked in down in Orange County, California. This is like, it's like Dunkin Donuts these days, Mitch.

It's like, like everything is baked at a central bakery and then shipped out to the stores. And the stores are basically just, just retail outlets. So basically what you're at is at an Entenman store. It's just like a bunch of prepared pastries that are loaded with preservatives. So they have a longer shelf life. And as such, I just feel like the quality suffers a little bit for the price that you're paying. That said, the workers there are great. The location I go to is always a zoo.

There's always so many fucking people in line there. There's always just like a long line snaking through the bakery and a bunch of people just waiting in the designated beverage line. It's kind of chaotic in there. I feel bad for the workers. At a certain point, there was some suspicious things going on with like, I saw that they've had some issues with wage theft at least in the Australian locations on a corporate level.

And there were some suspicious things with the tip. There was like a tip option on the card that was there. And then I remember that like at one point, the people, the counter workers are saying, like, don't use that because that doesn't go to us. Like they just told me that once. And then eventually that just got removed entirely, which again, I don't know how reputable this is, but I also don't know why they'd lie. But it just some weirdly suspect business practice things,

which I guess are universal to all chain restaurants. So I don't need to stick with this place out. But I'll just say overall, my issue is I think they have some really nice treats. I think they have some nice individual bites. I think part of the fun of this place is they've got so many things to try. And you can try a bunch of different things you can get. You can load up your tray with like six different treats. You'd be like, oh, I like this one.

I'll get this one again. This one's not for me. I mean, I think that's part of the fun of it is that they just have all these choices. And you don't have to necessarily be fully committed to just making one choice. You can carry out a bunch of stuff. That said, I would give this an extra fork if it was baked in-house. But because it's not, I think I got to settle in at three forks for 85 degrees. I did not know it wasn't baked in-house.

Good to know. Good to know. It could be, it's possible your location is. I mean, I think they may be very from locationally, but at least the one I go to, it's like, no, they're not baking that stuff back there. Okay. Well, hey, that was our review of 85 degrees. We're going to take a break.

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I had also recently watched Conehead, so I was giving my thoughts on Conehead. Yeah, let's just talk about it. Yeah, which is that there's not a whole lot of plot. It's mostly scenes of goofing around, which is great. It's not something I feel like you can do anymore. I just have an hour's worth of goofs with no conflict, but I love it.

Yeah, the plot is, I was saying, is Homeland Security is chasing the Coneheads and Michael McKean. Then they give up on one point, and then eventually, someone yells at Michael McKean is like, you need to like, you spent a lot of money. Now you've got to find these guys if you want this promotion. But then they go to Romulac or whatever their home planet is. But I was just saying, there's not enough like,

what I know of the sketches is people come to their house, and they're like, we are from France, and that is like the big thing is that they're big weirdos. And you just see them kind of being weirdos in their home more so than anything. And then when they go to like the dentist, John Lovitz is like a dentist, and Dan Akroyd has like rows of teeth. They're just kind of like weird, you know,

like John Lovitz is just kind of like strange. And you're like, yeah, you're like, no one's really suspicious except for the Homeland Security guy, except for Michael McKean and David Spade. But I got to say this, regardless of the, of the, of my criticisms of the movie, I still do like it. And also it's got the best red hot chili pepper songwags. Which song is that?

Uh, God. Putting them on the spot. So to squeeze. Oh, okay. So to squeeze. So to squeeze it. And that was one that was like for the soundtrack, right? It was like their original song for the Konehead soundtrack.

It's a very funny. I only remember the Kodachrome song during their montage, their montage. They do like a montage of their daughter growing up, and they just like kind of whiz by her entire childhood. And they're playing that Kodachrome song. Yeah, it feels like that's where they should have like, you should have seen more of that.

There isn't like a lot of that or like, they work for Sinbad. Right. This movie is stacked, by the way. Tons of people in the movie. Insane cast. Phil Hartman, Adam Sandler, David Spade. We mentioned Michael McKeon. Sandler's part is great.

Sandler's playing like a guy who's like, your name is like Frederico, whatever. He's like giving him a fake name. And he's like, hey, my buddy's named that. He's like, he's like, he's like, so what's your name? And he's like, oh, nice to meet you. He's doing a great Sandler bit. Michael Richards is in it.

Michael Richards is in it. Eddie Griffin. Eddie Griffin is in it. Michael Richards, you don't see in movies as much anymore. Yeah. I can't, I can't get that, that, like that movie brings visually to me, the scene where she's eating that sandwich, like she's like hoovering that sandwich.

That is, that's the movie. Yeah. It's pretty bad special effects. I was saying Michael Richards is not in movie as much anymore. Why? It's kind of like, I'm like, where's he been? And what happened to that guy? Yeah, what happened to that guy?

You don't see him as much anymore. But Kodachrome definitely, Lauren picked up the phone and said, Paul, can I get a little favor? I'm sure you got a little, I'm sure you got Kodachrome for cheap. But Soul of the Squeeze Wags on the album, on the, a song made for the movie, Farley is in the, Farley is in the video. And it's my favorite Red Hot Chili Pepper song, The Rules.

Good song. The movie has its issues, you know, certainly the effects of the pacing could have been improved. You know, who could have fixed that? That would be good. Uh-oh. Wow. The Finchman?

The Finchman. The Finchman. A Finch, David Fincher's Coneheads. Yeah. Oh man, just imagine. All right. Hey, it's time for a new segment. Mitch and Lauren are given a famous food-related quote

and must guess which word completes the sentence. This is from our associated producer, Amelia Marino, a fill-in-the-blank game, and she was like, I can't think of a pun for this. Fill-in-the-flank, meal-in-the-blank. I say we combine them in our new segment, Meal in the Flank. Meal in the Flank. Here's how Meal in the Flank will work.

I will read a quote and you can buzz in with your name and take a guess as to what the, you know, not who said the quote, but what fills in the quote. Okay. Does that make sense? We buzz in with our name, we shout out our own name. Yeah, shout your own name so I know to call on you. Or you know what?

If you want to, if you want to buzz in with the, with the Finchman, you can do that too. Yeah, I'll do that. Okay. Okay, great. All right. First quote. And this one's kind of like a tutorial, you know,

this is like a tutorial-level video game that should hopefully introduce you how this works. Okay. My mama always said, life is like a box of- The Finchman. I heard Mitch first. I've had a lot of practice saying The Finchman over and over again on the podcast.

Yeah, it doesn't really roll off the tongue. It does not. Go back to my name. The Finchman and my answer, my answer isn't The Finchman. Life is like a box of The Finchman would be crazy. It is life is like a box of chocolate swags. You are right. Chocolates is correct.

That is from Tom Hanks in Forest Gump. All right. Next, next food related quote. As God is my witness, I'll never be blank again. Lauren. Heard Lauren. Hungry? You are correct.

This is from Gone With The Wind. This is Scarlett O'Hara. Next, next quote. Tight up at one. We L's try to stick to the four main food groups. Candy, candy canes, candy corns, and blank. This is hard. Lauren.

This is from- Go ahead, Lauren. Sprinkles? It's not sprinkles. Candy, can you say it again, candy? Candy, candy canes, candy corns, and blank. Candy, I don't know, candy again. It's not candy.

You both had the same issue. Forgotten syrup. The answer is syrup. It's syrup again? As buddy and elf. That's right. The answer is syrup. All right.

This is not from a movie. This is a Kurt Cobain quote that I wasn't familiar with, but you may be heard of. It's okay to eat blank because they don't have any feelings. The Finchman. Go ahead, Mitch. Veggies. Not veggies.

I'm going to go with bagels. Not bagels. It was fish. Fish, fish. I knew it was fish after I said it. I don't know if Cobain was a pescatarian. I'm not sure, but that would be my inference from that quote. All right, next up.

This is Ronald Reagan. We love this guy. Yeah. Oh, we love Reagan here. Oh, we love Reagan. And there's one thing that he loves. Hey, Wax. Yeah.

If the Finchman made coneheads, you think we get a scene of Belldar in the shower and you get to see his dick with gongirl? You think we get half black? Yeah, just in profile. Yeah. You can only hope. Big ass.

He's got two. He's got two cones. Yeah, he's got two cones. Several rows of balls. Fucking gross. Still gross when the Finchman makes it. All right, Ronald Reagan burns in hell today, but at one point he was the president of the United States

and there was a food that he loved, which is a clue to what this quote is. You can tell a lot about a fellow's character by his way of eating blank. Mitch, the Finchman. Go ahead, Mitch. Steak. Not steak.

Is this the president that like jelly beans? Lauren, I'll give it to you. Wow. He was a jelly beans freak. Jelly beans is the answer? Yeah. Yeah, you are correct. I think I'm a huge fan of Reagan.

He always kept the jar of jelly beans on his desk. We love Reagan. Absolutely love Reagan. We love Reagan. He's in peace in hell. Can't believe syrup was an answer. All right, Lauren has two. Mitch has one.

I'm going to get in trouble with Emma, because either I forgot the syrup or she hates me and didn't give me a syrup. It's one of the two. Either I forgot the syrup or she hates me and didn't give me a syrup. If one of you forgot the syrup, it's not Emma. All right, next up. Scarlett, this is not a movie quote.

This is a Scarlett Johansson quote from Civilian Life. Mm-hmm. I still need a burger to counter with blank dripping down my face. What? I still need a burger to counter with blank dripping down my face. Yes. Ketchup. It is ketchup.

You are correct. You're not an upper two. Wow. All right, a few more here. The fuck, Scarlett? Get a fucking napkin. I think you'll know this one. Joe's just sitting there like, I am mortified.

My wife is messy. This is the worst Long Island summer ever. Staten Island summer. Fuck. I was so close. It would have been a fucking. Wait, hold on. This is the worst Staten Island.

Fuck. This is the worst Staten Island summer ever. Emma, please edit that in, even though I forgot the syrup. If the summer is Staten Island, the man is jost. But if it's the king of Long Island, Davidson is your host. Wait, is it Long Island? It is. Okay, all right.

Wait, no. There you go. I don't know. Is it also Staten Island? King of Staten Island. Is it Staten Island? Yeah, they're both Staten Island. They're both Staten Island?

I think so. They're two SNL cast members, Staten Island movies? Oh man, we're going to have to have the Finchman take Staten Island. Probably deliver a shorter cut than Judd. All right, next up. Careful. He's going to cut me out of the neck project he does. All right, here we go.

Okay, there's a Robert Redford quote. Actually, I'll do this one next because I think this first one's a little bit more obvious. You probably know this quote. This is from the godfather. Leave the gun, take the blank. Mitch, the Finchman. Yes. Canolis.

It is Canoli. Take the Canoli. Canoli is singular. All right, two left. This is a Robert Redford quote. Health food may be good for the conscience, but blank tastes a hell of a lot better. Lauren. The Finchman.

I heard Lauren first. It's still a guess. I'm going to say ice cream? No, not ice cream. Mitch, steak? Oh, I fucking said it and I fucked up and I didn't listen. That's okay. I'm glad it didn't work out.

You said ice cream and I said no, not Oreos because Oreos is the answer. Jesus Christ. Fucking dumb. All right, Lauren, you can tie it up with this last one or Mitch, you can win outright. Final quote. I'm just going to throw it out there. We find a house, hotel, Airbnb, scavenge some blank, water, and just wait it out. Seven days, no problem.

I know this. What the fuck is this from? This is from, yeah. I'll read it one more time. I'm just going to throw it out there. We find a house, hotel, Airbnb, scavenge some blank, water, and just wait it out. Seven days. Wait a minute.

No problem. I know this because it's me, you fucking crazy asshole. Can I still guess? Can you obviously know? Yeah, go for it. Go ahead, Lauren. Is it beer? It's not beer.

I think it might just be food. It is food, Mitch. This is your line as Cowan in the Tomorrow War. My line from Tomorrow War. Wow. I knew, I knew that. I was like, what the fuck is this? Shout out to Amelia.

She pulled that one. That's good, Amelia. That was me. That was meal in the flank, just like a restaurant via your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And also sorry, Lauren, kind of waited in my favor where one of the lines is something I said. I am a terrible loser. I'll hold this against you forever.

I like that. I like that you didn't know it immediately. You were like, what? I know that from something. Just like a restaurant via your feedback, let's open the feedback. Today we have an email from Jordan from Vacaville, California. Jordan writes, I was like, hold on a second. Yeah, I just want to say like,

like, like, hey, we're going to scavenge some food and hang out. Like, I shouldn't know that immediately. Should I? I would just think that maybe. Have you said like, who, who, who? I'm September Santa. Of course, I'd understand what the quote was, but that is a trickier one to get.

Yeah, it's a little trickier. I think maybe like if you like knew your lines, that maybe you would have gotten it. Okay, now you're saying I didn't know my free the fuck. I don't know. Hey, Kubrick used cue cards. It was fine. Today is from Jordan from Vacaville, California.

Jordan writes, I was a kid during the early nineties when the Jack in the Box mad cow disease craze was occurring. Wow. I remember this. To keep me safe, my mom wouldn't let me consume any fast food burger, which resulted in me not having a restaurant or fast food burger for the first eight years of my life.

No, I made up for it as I got older and I do enjoy a restaurant fast food burger, but I can't say I've ever acquired a taste for fast food burgers. My orders are much more of the chicken nugget variety, even as an adult. Are there any foods that you feel you missed out on and just never acquired a taste for? Love the pod.

Jordan Prentice's female. Thanks, Jordan. Thank you, Jordan. That's a great question. So I do remember this. I lived through this. This was the E. Coli scare. I don't know if it became national news, but like,

they said mad cow disease, but I don't think it was mad cow. I think it was E. Coli. And this one resulted in some fatalities. Like a few people died from Jack in the Box burgers. And the Jack in the Box mascot that you know now came about because of their, like it was like their refreshing campaign after this like corporate scandal.

Like it was just like, like, like, look, like the company almost died. We're back and Jack, Jack's basically was coming out to say like, we're back and we got a new sort of attitude and we got a new brand. They painted all the stores white because like that was the most hygienic looking color.

And yeah, they did a lot of marketing. And you know what? I never stopped fucking eating there. I was going to say, did you even stop eating there like during the scare or no? No, lines were shorter. Fucking go there, get my monster tacos. Can I try one of those special burgers?

Show me where you grind the burger meat. I wonder what, what, if what it was, was it from burgers or was it from, I mean, obviously. It was from meat. It was from ground, it was from ground beef specifically. I think it was undercooked ground beef. Undercooked ground beef. So it was in the tacos.

It was in the burgers. I think that people got sick from. But yeah, I mean, it could have been the tacos. So it could still be burgers. As long as it was well done, people were fine because it cooks off. I think so. I think that by, you know, again, this is all just my memory of the news reports as a kid.

And I read about it once. But, but yeah, it was, it was definitely tainted beef. You know, for me, why is when I was younger, not that I wish to like go back and and eat more food, even though maybe I would wish that. But for me, I didn't eat cheeseburgers a lot until, I didn't eat a cheeseburger until, when did I start eating cheeseburgers?

Probably like middle school. Like it took like all through elementary. I wasn't, I just like plain hamburgers. And I also didn't, I was also like afraid to try Taco Bell. I thought like, like a, this is an insane thing. But I've talked about it before, but like Mexican food was like so foreign to me in my head as a child that I was like, what is this?

Like it's weird. Like, like as a kid, I thought it was strange. And now, as you know, Mexican food right under Italian food, which is, which Italian food has kept the, has kept first place forever. Even though I make it fun of Italians constantly. But yeah, like eating Taco Bell as a kid, same thing, probably middle school,

even maybe closer to high school for Taco Bell. Interesting. Yeah, for me, I wish I tried it earlier. Yeah. I think honestly, my answer is, because it's a refrain I come back to, gummy ain't yummy. And I think it's because I didn't have a lot of gummy as a kid.

You know, like when Nerd Drop was available, I would just go for the nerd's pellets. I would, I always liked the crunchies. I always liked the chocolates. So if I was getting like a fruit candy, you know, I'd rather go, I'd rather have like a hard candy or skittles as opposed to like, you know, like a gummy worm or a, or a, you know, or gummy bears.

Like I just never loved that. And I think, I think that's a big part of why I have something of an, I wouldn't say an aversion, but I just never leaned towards gummy as an adult. Lauren, anything you never really had as a kid, as a result, you never really developed a craving for? A ton of stuff. Like, I think just because I lived in a place where we had like one Chinese restaurant,

one sushi place, and also my mom was like, like a Depression era food cook. So there's just like a lot of stuff that I, I didn't try. This is in Florida, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was like, if it wasn't a chain or a fast food thing, I hadn't tried it. But pickles are the one, to me, the one I wish I could like.

Oh, yeah. I want to like pickles really bad. I try them over and over again in hopes that one day it will click because that's what happened with sushi. Like I trained myself to like it, but I hadn't gotten there with pickles. Wow. And I honestly, I wish that I, I wish I had gotten tried sushi when I was younger. Like, I think it's hard to make kids eat stuff like,

like, unless they're eating it when they're like really young, which, you know, like Changton does that with his daughter, you know, like his, you know, his, his little baby, it's like sushi and stuff. And I, I like not, you know, not all the time, obviously. But I, I, uh, I wish that I had sushi when I was like a kid and grew, and like grew fond of it. Honestly, it wasn't really super available. You know what I mean?

Like it was not, we're talking about Quincy, Massachusetts in the 1980s. Like as I grew up, I saw it become more and more popular and more and more available. But just things like that, eating like salmon and stuff when I was younger, or like meteor fish, like swordfish, stuff like that, which is like healthy for you and is also taste good when you get older. I wish that I did some of that when I was a kid, just to be like, not only like have a taste for it to like also enjoy it,

but I don't know, you get one weird thing when you're younger, every younger, and then it fucks with you for the rest of your life. And then, you know, Because of the version. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. My mom also was not, not the greatest cook, not that she had to be, she's also working and everything,

but I didn't know that she wasn't a good cook until like I would have friends come up or they would be like, what the fuck is this? And it'd be like, it's spaghetti. And they're like, this is not spaghetti. This is soup. This is soup with noodles in it. Yeah. So it's been a journey as an adult to like learn how to cook and all this.

Mrs. Tufo, my friends, the Tufo's wise up the street, Mrs. Tufo would have like Sunday night dinners and would make like salad and meat, sausage and meatballs and pasta. And it was like so damn good. It was really, really good. And my mom makes some great stuff. I'm not gonna, nothing against my mom. So you make some good stuff, but like it would like restaurant,

like just great Italian food. Yeah. So I get what you're saying there, Lauren, where I'd be like, damn, this is so fucking good. And then they wouldn't care. I think always when it's like your mom making it and you're the kid, you're just like, whatever. And I'm like, this is so fucking good.

It's so good. We did it for the tomorrow war. And I watched it with the Tufo's. We went over, my friend Dan Tufo saw us and Mrs. Tufo made us like a big Italian meal. It was great. Wow. And you delivered your famous line. I did.

And I said it at the table and everyone was clapping and cheering. Yeah, seven days, no problem. I thought that that got cut from the movie. So I was kind of shocked that. No, it's in the movie. Oh, well, I looked up the, so I looked up the Jack in the Box E. Coli outbreak. And this is a, this is a good way to end the episode, by the way.

It was undercooked hamburger patties. And this is the, it was ironically linked to a, to Jack in the Box's Monster Burger, which was selling under the slogan, so good, it's scary. And there was such high demand for the Monster Burger that they didn't cook them long enough. And so they had this tainted beef that was served to a bunch of people, 100 plus people were hospitalized and four children died, which is really fucking grim. Then you read further about the story and it's like senators were weighing in,

there were like hearings, the U.S. Department of Agriculture changed like standards. Bill Clinton like met with like the parents and it's like, there is such a better governmental response to this than like any school shooting. It's just, it's just really, it's just such a bummer of like. It's a different time. Yeah, they fucking regulate hamburger meat at fast food restaurants, but you know, someone brings a fucking AR-15 to a public school and nothing changes. Well, if you're listening along and you think that we wouldn't end the podcast

without reminding you of child mortality, we do. Any food you, you missed out on and never acquired a taste for, weigh in with the hashtag, forgotten food. And if you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doboyspotgassageema.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844. You can get the Do Boyz Double or weekly bonus episode by joining the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Do Boyz.

And check out Do Boyz Snack Pack on Spotify Live. Hang out and chat with us every Thursday at 8.30 p.m. Eastern. Listen live on Spotify. Our guest has been Lauren McGuire. Lauren, such a treat to talk with you. Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for giving us so much your time.

Anything you would like to plug at this point? I think all my Twitter and Instagram handles are all, I'm Lauren McGuire. So follow me there. I know Twitter is a cesspool now, but hey. Elon's cleaning it up. Yeah, he'll fix it. We love Reagan.

We love Elon. We love you. I want to say two things before we go. One is that we would definitely, if Do Boyz was a podcast back when the Monster Burger came out, we'd definitely be dead. We'd be hospitalized because we'd be like, oh, we got to get it for the show.

We'd do it. So there's a good chance that we still do just die from the podcast, I guess. But that's one thing. Two, this forgotten syrup. You said Emma gave it to you. Did she give it to you last Christmas? Yeah.

Oh, so you're just eating the syrup for the first time one year later? You freak. Syrup has a shelf life. It's shelf stable. It's not a lash. All right, yeah. Maybe she gave me the syrup then.

Maybe it wasn't forgotten syrup. Mystery Solve. You got that on December 26th. You just chugged it. Down the hatch. All right. Well, see ya. Bye.

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