Doughboys - Auntie Anne's with Mary Lynn Rajskub

Episode Date: June 3, 2021

Mary Lynn Rajskub (24, Live from the Pandemic, The Tomorrow War) returns to talk filming in Atlanta and working at a theater before a review of Auntie Anne's. Plus, another edition of Snack to the Fut...ure.Sources for this week's intro: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-jan-14-mn-22490-story.htmlhttps://lancasteronline.com/news/local/now-we-know-pretzel-that-choked-president-bush-in-02-came-from-hammonds-in-lancaster/article_cbdd3bec-999b-11e3-8ea7-001a4bcf6878.htmlhttps://theconversation.com/how-the-pretzel-went-from-soft-to-hard-and-other-little-known-facts-about-one-of-the-worlds-favorite-snacks-95409https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/how-did-the-pretzel-get-its-shapehttps://www.auntieannes.com/our-storyhttps://auntieannebeiler.com/annes-story/Advertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fm.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In January of 2002, just a few short months after the 9-11 attacks incited a rally round the flag effect that pushed President George W. Bush's approval rating north of 90%, W's administration nearly came to an abrupt and permanent end. Not because of a terrorist strike, but rather because of a pretzel. While chomping on a pretzel in private, the president choked on the snack food, lost consciousness, and fell to the floor, giving him a nasty bruise below his eye, before being found and revived by the Secret Service. Mentions of the pretzel have been documented as early as the 7th century CE.
Starting point is 00:00:39 The distinct shape claimed to be a monk's depiction of arms folded in prayer. Other theories have a more practical reasoning for the form factor. It makes it easy to hang on hooks and bakeries. The pretzel's omnipresence in the US can be directly traced to Pennsylvania Dutch country, which, despite its name, is not Dutch at all. It's an archaic pronunciation of Pennsylvania Deutsch, meaning German. Named for the first wave of Germanic immigration to America in the 18th century, the Pennsylvania Dutch imported ample amounts of German culture, including a distinct dialect of the language
Starting point is 00:01:08 still spoken today. And these transatlantic crowds also brought over the knotted savory pastry popularized in Bavaria, the Brezel, or pretzel. Pretzels became closely identified with the state of Pennsylvania as German-American descendants iterated on the snack by inventing the snack-sized hard pretzel, as well as the Philadelphia S-shaped soft varietal. And so it was Pennsylvania where, in 1988, Anne F. Beiler opened her eponymous pretzelry as a farmer's market stall in the city of Downingtown.
Starting point is 00:01:37 By 1992, the year W's presidential father George H. W. Bush would lose reelection to horn dog Hick Bill Clinton, the single stand had exploded into over 100 retail locations. Today, there are over 1,500 franchises worldwide, often located in shopping centers in Baltimore, and all parks. As for W, he spends his retirement oil painting and palling around with fellow telegenic monster Ellen DeGeneres, the pretzel standing alongside a ducked pair of shoes as near misses from the Reaper. This week on Doe Boys, anti-ans.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weigar, along with my co-host, the tomorrow wario, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Wow. Why is that? Because of your movie. I know. That's fun. Is it because the movie's coming out?
Starting point is 00:02:39 You're going to roast me with tomorrow war stuff? We'll see. We'll see how many different ways, how many different spins people can have on this. There's not necessarily a lot of options there in terms of puns. That might be it, you're saying. That might be it. It might be tomorrow wario. Alan Jewel sent that in, roastspoonman at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Ooh, any relation to Richard Jewel, I wonder. It's spelled differently, but I'm still going to say yes. Wow. They're twin brothers. Wow. Yeah. That's a huge relation. That's as close as you can get.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, he still gets recognized. They think it's him. He's like, no, I'm not the guy. And they're like, your piece of shit. And he's like, no, you have, I'm not the guy, and also the guy was innocent. The guy was innocent. That was the whole thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's tough. Tough life. Yeah, poor Richard Jewel. I know. They found all, like, and I actually never got around to seeing the movie, which everyone said was great, but I never, I didn't get around to seeing it. But I'm fascinated by the story. We've talked about this on the show before, but one of the things that happened is, yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:41 when they like investigated his home, this dude was a fucking, he was like a hero. He like saved people's lives and then they were just like, wait, this guy was some glory, this glory hound who like staged the whole thing. And so they searched his home and they found he like lived with his mom like you and had a gigantic collection of pornography. Like me? Yeah, like you. And so it was like on the news that they like hauled out like big cardboard boxes of this
Starting point is 00:04:08 dude's porno. Like how humiliating. Man, 1990, what was that? 1994? It was the 96. It was the Atlantic games. It was the Olympics. It was the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. Yeah. I should have, I should have known that. Yeah. I guess porn was still like, you know, like it was still, people were like grossed out by the fact that he had a big box of porn. Yeah. There was more of a stigma.
Starting point is 00:04:33 There was more of a, how dare you? Yeah. Imagine if you died, what they'd find in your place. Jesus. Oh, no, all the shit's wired to explode as soon as my heart stops. Jesus. And Natalie knows about this. No.
Starting point is 00:04:50 She's, she'll find out from this. All right. How the hell to Spoon Nation? I don't like doing that in front of our guests. And here is a little drop. I will say I like a smooth peanut butter. I've messed around with Chunky's. Chunky's are fine, but I like a smooth peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm going to go. How's this? How's this? Smooth peanut butter. That's really good. It's really, really good. Smooth peanut butter. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:27 That drop wise greetings to whoever screens these. I was listening to the latest double and noticed the perfect opportunity for my inaugural drop. Props to Mr. Slice for staying in the same key and tempo the whole time. It was fun jamming with you. Anyways, hope you enjoy that my sub 30 second drop. Happy eating. See you. Joe.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Hi Joe. Well played. We played two drops. Our guest is getting attacked by a furry beast. Yeah. Oh no. It seems like she's upset. He paused at me like he makes, he makes intense eye contact and then starts pawing with
Starting point is 00:06:08 a paw. Oh no. Wow. He wants something. We're very codependent. Our guest today from 24 and her special live from the pandemic, which is available on Vimeo her new film, The Tomorrow War with Mike Mitchell is streaming July 2nd on Amazon Prime. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Marilyn Ricegub. Hey, Marilyn. Thanks for coming back. Hi. So happy to be back. Happy to have you. What an exciting month leading up what we call here the Tomorrow War Month. Weiger, you have an issue with that, correct?
Starting point is 00:06:35 I just think if we're going to call it the Tomorrow War Month, happy to have guests on, happy to promote your movie, of course, I think that Amazon should give us a little dough. Give us a year of free prime or something. It's a national holiday. So it's just a federal thing, you don't, I don't know, I don't know, I don't mean to get into this right away, but I don't know who you think you are just demanding funds from Amazon. When this is a, this is a movement, the Tomorrow War, something that will be on our calendars.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So you better. How dare you bully poor Amazon? Look, I'm, yeah, like they just have money to give out. What about when you return something and they're like, no worries, don't return it. That happened to my mom. Yeah. Today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:28 She got some insoles. And they just said, keep them. Here it is. Keep them. And then you just feel like, oh, are they just, they're not worth anything? Cause I really wanted these insoles. Oh, your mom said hi first. I certainly will.
Starting point is 00:07:40 She'll be thrilled to hear that. My mom and sister, both big fans of yours. We hung out in Atlanta a little bit and it was a, it was a, it was a blast when a family was visiting. Yeah. It was really cool. But also you weren't, you and I had a, we had quite the bond down there. We were together all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I guess. Oh my gosh. We, I mean, what you see in the movie is real. Okay. It was a teaser for tomorrow or, or a month, no, but we really liked every van ride. And the best part was, why did it end up being just you and I? I think like everyone else was like, like a, well, for, for one thing, like there were younger actors who were like the, well, I can't get into the plot of it too much, but
Starting point is 00:08:27 there were, there were some younger actors who weren't there while we were there. And they stayed at the hotel, but they didn't overlap with us. And then a lot of people were local. And then some people were there for like, like six, yeah. And then our group was like, yeah, locals. So it was you and I, that was so fun. That was like some serious bonding because every van ride was just you and I and the driver and we would just like let it rip, just like vent about everything.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And then when we got back, there was always like the cocktail hour or yeah, we would, we would let off some steam then too. It was great. After we had just got beat up on the streets of Atlanta. So the two of you are staying in the same hotel, you're put up there for the production and then you're being in, you're in van rides to and from the set and you're working these 12 hour arduous days, Toten heavy machinery, wearing wardrobe. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I'm going to say this, Mary Lynn, we were at the Lowe's hotel and then you, you, you, you hit up, you got like a relationship, like a, like a good friendship going with the, with the, with that guy there at the concierge, that guy, the concierge Jonathan, Jonathan, the concierge. Wow. And, and I was like, oh, she's, she's so nice to this guy. And then, then I went to your, you were like, come check out my room basically. And he put you in like the, the King's suite one day and I was like, that's what being
Starting point is 00:09:58 a nice per, that was, that's what it will do for you. You're a nice person. You'll get put in a giant suite. And then he started giving me nice rooms just because I was friends with you. Jonathan ruled. I love Jonathan guys. I'm going to do shout out and talk about Jonathan for a minute. He is one of those people that's like perfect for his job because he loves the like being
Starting point is 00:10:18 the connective tissue. He loves like the excitement of the guests. You know what I mean? Whereas other people wouldn't even notice. He clocks everything. He's like, oh, so-and-so is on that production and he takes everything up a notch. That's what you want in customer service. He writes little notes.
Starting point is 00:10:33 He wrote notes. They were great. It was great. I mean, it was, and for me, a lot of people like who were staying like super long-term like there for six months, they got like, like an apartment or something or like a microwave and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And did you get a, did you get a refrigerator? I got a fridge and a mic. Eventually I asked, I asked for one. Jonathan hooked it up, of course, but people who were staying there, like they didn't stay at the hotel. They went and stayed somewhere else. But I got to tell you, it was like home alone too for me. Living in a fucking hotel was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I loved it. It was great. Me too. You get to live in a hotel. Like how often do you get to do that in your life? It's fun. Right. And I would imagine, and it's especially now, it's see, you know, because it wasn't that
Starting point is 00:11:16 long ago. Well, we were at 2019. Is that when you guys were in production? Yeah. But, but the idea of just like an extended stay or like any stay in a hotel, it was just a thing that just kind of got taken off our radar completely over the past year. I mean, are you, Mary Lynn, are you a hotel fan? You like, do you like just a, when you're traveling, you like staying in hotels?
Starting point is 00:11:35 You more, are Airbnb's more your speed? I, I don't know Airbnb's. I only know hotels. Wow. Yeah. I'm a hotel guy. I recently, it in, in town because I moved. So I had an Airbnb in the interim of like selling one house and going into another house.
Starting point is 00:11:54 But as far as travel, I just have not, I've never delved into it. I'm scared. Don't you get like not as advertised places all the time? Mary Lynn, it's very funny. It's funny. It was a few times. Yeah. It's funny you say that.
Starting point is 00:12:10 No, we've never had, look, I went to Brooklyn. I just went, I got back yesterday. I went for a day. I drove to Brooklyn, New York with a bunch of Quincy guys. We were going to do a pizza tour of Brooklyn. We left around eight AM, just drove down. That sounds like you were just going to start fights. We did.
Starting point is 00:12:28 A big car full of Quincy guys going up to New York to start trouble. Fight some Nets fans. We were in Celtics jerseys. Where'd you find Nets fans? Well, yeah, we didn't find anyone. So we just fought each other. But we drove down to Brooklyn. You know what?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I saw Neil and Fran and Kyle Mooney and Kate. I saw some friends and it was a good time. But I asked Fran, I said, who was your favorite Quincy friend? And she said the one that looked like a pit bill. She said the one that looked like a pit bull got to be a human for a night was her response. Was her favorite? Oh my gosh. Was her favorite.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Did you determine who that was? No. And I said that could be anyone. That could be any one of us. I think, I think she meant that in that it could have been any one of us. Right. But that's a great description that I mean, it's true. We went down there.
Starting point is 00:13:42 We were supposed to have an Airbnb in Williamsburg. Joey O sets it up. He pays for it. We get a message, a new street address with a code. And Joey O thinks, well, I guess this is like where you get the key. So we went over to this other place. I go in because he was driving. I go in, put the code in, I go inside.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It's just a big empty apartment. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? There were keys on the table. So I grabbed the keys and I said, it was a big empty place. I don't know. It was weird. We drove to the address that they given that like the Airbnb was at. It's a residential home.
Starting point is 00:14:20 There's kids playing soccer in the front yard. Like I mean, it's Brooklyn, but like they're like in the front, like little area, they're kids playing soccer. And I was like, what, what the fuck is this? It turned out the other place where we grabbed the keys was where we were supposed to be staying, but it wasn't the same address. They had sent us the address. We went in there.
Starting point is 00:14:38 The floor was sticky. It felt like, it felt like you had been in there previously. The floor was sticky. It was, it was a fucking, it was a hellhole, like down in the basement. One of the guys was like, I'm just going to shower real quick. He showered, it started to leak in the basement and like this couch that was, it was just like beneath the leak was like soaked in water and it already been soaked in water. It was like stained with water.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Bugs started to crawl out of the leak. It was insane. God. It was a nightmare. Insane. We called Airbnb and we were like, we got a different address. This is like crazy. And they were like, all right.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And they refunded us and we went and stayed at a hotel. So there you go. That happened just a two days ago. Wow. Mm-hmm. What a nightmare. A switcheroo. Why?
Starting point is 00:15:23 Cause we got, we got fucking, we got switcherooed bugs. Bugs came out of the leak. It's terrifying. It sounds like a biblical plague. Didn't you have a trailer when we were on location? Yes. Yo, let's talk with the bug. Mary Lynn, this is a hundred percent true.
Starting point is 00:15:40 This I had, I had a, I had a trailer that was filled. I need to be instantly worked up by it. I knew it. I had a trailer that was filled with stink bugs, which by the way, you're not supposed to. And so like I got into the trailer and I'm not, I don't complain. I'm not a complainee guy to the people. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Oh. To you. On set, I'm not, I just want, I just want to keep working again. I never care about anything. I get in there and there was like 20 stink bugs in my trailer, like a, like a number and just, you know, it was a, it was a small trailer, a tiny little hallway and it was just like 20 stink bugs. Translation, six stink bugs.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I took a video. There is a, there is an old video of all the stink bugs in there. Wow. I believe you. Here's the thing with stink bugs. You can't crush them because they stink. That's the whole point of stink bugs. You can't, you can't.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And so I went out and Mary Lynn knows this, the, the, like a, I went out and told the person who was like the third who she called herself, like the third AD, Mary Lynn, you know who I'm talking about. And I told her and she could not care less. I was like, I have like 20 stink bugs in my room. I just don't know what to do really. I like, I like, it's, it's like, it's a, it's gross and I don't know what to do. And she was like, Oh, and I was like, Oh, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Well, she was the same person that just got a puppy midway through the, yeah, through the shoot, which is perfect for her job where you are in charge of like logistics and areas with people, different people, just bring a puppy into that. Why? We have to take care of other people. You just bring a puppy. A puppy is, is a perfect, that's a, it's perfect for that equation where you have hours, you know, middle of the night, where you have to constantly keep an eye on a thing.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You have to work to get water to where you're at. Bring a puppy. Bring a puppy. Wags? You know what? Yes. We're bringing you in on that van talk we were talking about. This is the van talk.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I love it. I feel like a Hollywood insider. Yeah. Do you, Mitch, do you have, like, did you resolve the stink bug incident? Like what happened? Yeah, it turned out that they, the stink bugs actually fell off me. You were like their host? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It was one of those situations where like someone from production came and shook me a bunch and all the stink bugs just fell off. Oh no. They thought you were the queen probably. No. One of our producers, Samantha, who we know, friend of the show, she, she, she let me stay in her trailer, which was fucking nice. Samantha's great.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Put my legs up. I relax. Fell asleep. They never, they never called on me. They didn't need my help. They realized that they probably shouldn't have hired me at all. It was perfect. So they've, I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I want to, I want to talk a little bit about everything reopening because we're finally in the phase in this podcast where the world is starting to return to some sort of normalcy and obviously that impacts how we eat. Barry Lynn, are you like, is there anything you're excited to re-experience? Have your, have your dining habits changed for good? I mean, like, what is your approach to the, the, the light at the end of the tunnel? Oh boy. Well, just yesterday, I get the same thing at my diner.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I just moved a few months ago and I found my nearby like breakfast place. I would go pick it up. And the other day I thought, well, I'm going to go sit down and have breakfast and I couldn't do it. And then I picture sitting in there and I was like, ugh, I'm just going to bring it back home. I don't want to be around people. I want to be around people.
Starting point is 00:19:23 You're vexed at this point, right? Yeah. I just didn't feel like being around people. That's where I'm at. The pandemic has stuck on me. I don't, I don't dare to leave anymore. I get it. I made myself go to the grocery store this morning, but I was like, in a, I was just
Starting point is 00:19:42 like, oh, I could Instacart. So I don't have to walk in there. And I walked in there. Wow. Yeah. I totally get what you're saying in terms of dining cause I had an experience where I, I mean, like yesterday, cause I'm, I'm finally fully vexed and as of last week. And so, and yesterday I found myself at a, well, it pertains to this week's chain, but
Starting point is 00:20:06 I, I got myself a little lunch at a CPK and they, they went to seat me indoors and I was just like, I, I, can I please sit on the patio? Like I just, I wouldn't, I would have left if they'd made me sit indoors. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Just cause I'm so like, it's, it's partly, yes, being around people, but partly just I'm conditioned from 15 months of I need to have, I can't be in an indoor space without a mask that I just, I don't, I'm not comfortable yet. Maybe I will be in a month or so, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Mitch, have you done any dining indoors? I will say that I'm sure that the people dining indoors at CPK were relieved that when you went on the, on the patio too. I don't want the fucking, we don't want this fucking guy in here. We both have stick bugs. I, I, have I eaten, I mean, I just went to, I was, you know what? I went into a couple of bars in New York. So I did sit down, but I didn't sit down and eat anywhere, but I wasn't indoors and was
Starting point is 00:21:07 taking my mask down to, to drink and stuff like that. So I kind of had that experience and yeah, it is, it is nerve wracking for sure. I don't think I've had like a full on dinner though, since, or like a, like a sit down meal, not that I can think of. I've been indoor, I've been indoors though, like with, with people around and it's crazy. It's crazy to just even be indoors again. Is the move to just go all the way and just be like, let's just go get like, let's just go like sit at a sushi bar or like a many Hannah or like go get like Ethiopian food
Starting point is 00:21:40 that you eat communally with your hands. Like being, and that's just, just, just fucking jump in with both feet into the deep end and just sort of like, okay, this is, this is, we're going to normalize this again. We're going to get used to, because this is the science says it's okay. I doubt, I will say that frail bot got a Euro late night in New York city and it was a chicken and lamb Euro and this is like, you know, three AM and we, we all were like gathered around and we were like handing it to each other and just taking bites. So that is like, that was like a big, I mean, it was with five other Quincy guys and we
Starting point is 00:22:17 were, you know, we were, we were, we were vaccinated and we also, we shared a Spamoni too. So, but we were like eating the, like taking big bites of a Euro and handing it off. It was, I mean, would be gross, gross outside of a pandemic, but we, but it was, I was, it was, it was fantastic. It was so good. It was very, very good. You and I very early on in the podcast, when we'd get meals together, we sort, we realized
Starting point is 00:22:45 that we were both comfortable just sharing food and so we would routinely get like, hey, we're at Red Robin, let's get a bacon cheeseburger to try it and we'll each just eat the same bacon cheeseburger. You know what I mean? Like, and we just like literally, we're sharing bites, we're swapping spit, you know, like we're, and we, I don't. At that point, I even knew what, what had been in your mouth. So it was not, it was.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Oh no. There's no need for this. So like, like, okay, you hit up a diner. Like what is, what is your diner order? What are you eating there? Are you a breakfast person? What am I eating at my diner? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I'm so glad you asked. I think we're going to go back there. I'd love to tell you, I get the same thing every time, which is eggs, onions and locks, because if I'm going to order breakfast, I'm going to go for it. And it also means I'm hungry. A lot of times I'll be like, oh, I didn't really eat dinner the night before I wake up starving. I'm going to do it. I'm going to get a full breakfast.
Starting point is 00:23:44 It comes with the bread, which for a while I was getting rye toast. Now I've stepped it up and gotten the chocolate muffin. Wow. Wow. A choice. That's good. My side, instead of hash browns, I get a potato pancake with a side of apple sauce and sour cream.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Wow. Fantastic. I had one of those just the other day too, in New York City. So you eat the locks and the onion together. Is that what happens? Or do you eat it with the eggs? Is it all mixed in? No, it's all scrambled.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Wow. So it's not really locks. It's like, it's cooked. Wow. And the onions are cooked. So it's, yeah, that's your scramble. That's fantastic. A little, you know, tapatio.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh hell yeah. That's a little, just a touch of tapatio is perfect. I haven't had tapatio. Why is that? It's been so long since I've, it's been seven months since I've had any LA food. I'm over here in Quincy. They don't have tapatio in the East Coast? No, they have it here.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm just saying that I don't know. I'm eating boring. That's not boring. I love the food here too, but just different. A different type of food. Right. I'm not using as much hot sauce. Marilyn, I got to say we ate pretty well just in general down there in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:24:58 We had, we had, we ate, we ate great. It was, it was, we would have some dinners with me, you and Samantha and Sam and Jen D'Angelo. And we, it was, We had a lot of reward dinners and cocktails. There was a lot of like, we deserve this. We're going to explore. And I'm trying to think of, for my birthday, we went and got some pizza wags.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You, you were at that one. I was there. Yeah. I wasn't there. Oh, you were. Oh, that's right. You went back, you went back that weekend. You went back to LA that weekend.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But, uh, we went to a great seafood restaurant down there that had great roles, which I now can't remember the name of it. Oh yeah. I remember that lobster roles. I don't remember the name of the restaurant. Yeah. That sort of daytime upscale diner fried chicken place that was within walking distance of our hotel was city kitchen or something.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That was great. That was this kids cornbread. That was just, I think that was just a, I think that was just you and I on our, one of our days off where we, where we didn't have anything to do. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I don't remember how the food was on set, but I can't remember it. So it means that it wasn't terrible. I guess. Right. If you can't, if you can't remember it means it probably wasn't bad. So. And just to be a, the movie trend, the industry translator again on set, there's a thing called craft services, which is where there'll be a bunch of
Starting point is 00:26:20 snacks that the cast and crew can have. I can't, Hollywood should take advantage of this in some way as you, the Hollywood translator. I finally found my role in the industry. You give tours to people, let them know what's happening. It would be great. Oh yeah. Maybe on a tram.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Should I just get a job at universal studio? I think you should. I think you should. I think you'd be great. I think you'd be the great, a great tram tour guide. Hey, speaking of jobs in the movie business, Mary Lynn, I read, could we discuss your Denny's job previously, but you also worked at the Beverly center movie theater.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Is that correct? Yes. Let's talk about it. Wow. Wow. The year I, I can, I can only remember one movie that was out. And I guess that was the original dumb and dumber. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:11 That's a great movie. Very funny movie. I worked minimum wage at the, of course, at the movie theater. When I interviewed, I was so shell shocked. I don't know. And it's just my personality of like socially, but it's not even that. It's because I know what I'm, what job I'm trying to get.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And I just, something goes dead in me. So I'm not talking to him. I'm just trying to get through it, right? Like the interview process, when they start talking, I just, I can't hear or see. I'm just like, oh, like, let's just get on with getting me the job. And so through the interview process, I was deemed not good enough for concession stand.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Wow. Like I was the ticket taker. Wow. And then I would have to go and sweep up in the movie theater. And I remember there was a song by the laws and the end of dumb and dumber. You go way too fast. One of these days you're going to crash.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. So I would, because every time you would go in and see the same part of the credits rolling or whatever and clean up the floor. This isn't my proudest moment. I'll admit it on the dough boys. Maybe you see where this is going. Yeah. I ate from a half eaten bag of M&Ms.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Right. What are you going to do? Yeah. When your option is to eat in the mall and you're spending two hours worth of work wages on your meal. What are you going to do? You're going to eat from a half eaten bag of peanut M&Ms and done. You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Meal accomplished. Lunch done. This is kind of embarrassing, but this relates to New York too. I also ate myself. I found a bag of half eaten M&Ms. Where? Just on the street in New York. No, you did not.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I did not, but I am with you in that I would take advantage of any food in the theater. It was funny because I worked at the movie theater with Micas and there was a weird guy who would serve popcorn and then he was like, any popcorn that falls on the counter, you get to eat. And we were both like, all right. Fucking freak. And so I didn't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And if someone left a bag of M&Ms, are you not going to take the bag of M&Ms or something? Come on. Thank you. Thank you for validating that. Of course. By the way, Shawshank Redemption came out around the same time. We got Stargate Pulp Fiction,
Starting point is 00:30:00 Macaulay Culkin and Page Master. Definitely Pulp Fiction was not playing there. I would have remembered that. We got Gump too. Gump was out in 94. What a year for movies. A great year for movies. I think that year had hoop dreams too.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It's one of my favorite movies ever. Wow. Yeah. One more thing about the Beverly Center movie theater, those screens were small. Have you guys been to that type of theater where it's like, what's the point of even having a movie theater when you're going to have, I never understood that, to like hack more theaters in there?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. The multiplex era when they were doing that, there was a, in my hometown, there was the Regency 8, which was a theater which they built. They just had, they didn't have a lot of, the square footage now is a coals. It's like not that big. It's not that much space.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And they just packed in eight small movie theaters in there. And it was just a quantity over quality thing. They could just get more movies playing. But yet to your point, at the Beverly Center theater, is where I saw The Departed, not a great cinematic experience, because it was like an 80 inch screen. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You know where I saw Departed Wags? Grumman Man's Chinese Theater. Wow. Wow. And the main theater on my birthday, the ultimate fucking movie experience. Wow. It was a great time.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You fucked up. Nice. The Los Feliz 3 has small, but it's almost like kind of the charm of it. It has the small- Different vibe. Screens too. Different vibe.
Starting point is 00:31:31 But Maryland, I'll make you feel better in that. At my theater, the ticket takers were the people that they actually trusted. And I never got to be a ticket taker. I was a concession guy. No way. A concession guy or a sweeper, where you would go and clean up all the theaters.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And I've said it in here before, but I think American Pie 2 came out the year I was there. And like you were saying, I've said this before on the podcast, but Legally Blonde came out the summer I was there. And I remembered the song Perfect Day playing, because it played over and over and over again. And it's crazy that you have that same experience
Starting point is 00:32:11 of just something that gets fucking just like burnt into your brain. Yeah. Because you just fucking see it and hear it so many fucking times. Something I don't want to remember in my head, but it just is there. And was getting paid like the $5.75 too.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I think it was maybe like $6.25 or something at that point. You need to eat M&Ms. You need to take any M&Ms you can if you make $5 an hour. It's insane. Yeah, what Maryland mentioned earlier about doing that count, because I remember that from low wage jobs I had of doing the calculation of
Starting point is 00:32:46 if I get Jack in the box, this is the hour I worked before. I'm paying for my meal with the hour I worked up to my lunch break and just how fucking gutting that is. And that's a reality for a lot of people, which fucking sucks. God, what a bummer.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Yeah. Anyway, sorry to bum everyone out. Yeah. On that note, we'll take a break. Oh, great. Great segue, Wags. Piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:33:18 What do you call this in Hollywood? This is an uh-oh. Hollywood uh-oh? Yeah, it's an oopsie. We'll be back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys. We are here with our guest, Maryland Rice Cub, reviewing this week's chain, Anti-Ans.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Mitch. Yeah. This far into the podcast, 300 plus episodes we still have not reviewed Anti-Ans pretzel. How did this slip through the cracks? Maryland, you're on a brand new restaurant review. This is number one.
Starting point is 00:33:56 This is Anti-Ans number one. Yes. I mean, it took you about 10 seconds after I said that for you to realize that it should be some sort of honor, which it isn't in any way. Oh, well, I... It was 10 seconds of a blank stare and then a big smile of, oh, this is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I'm amazed that it's been around for as long as it has. Yeah. The chain or the podcast. Both. No, the chain. I got news for you. I had an Anti-Ans. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Anti-Ans. Yeah, my Anti-Ans. Wow. She passed away just recently. Oh, RIP. That's sad. Taking it back down. We went into the break sad.
Starting point is 00:34:50 We're going to come out of the break sad. My Anti-Ans has passed away. But yeah, I had an Anti-Ans growing up. She was very strict and kind of religious. So, you know, I loved her. I did love her. She was a nice lady. But like, you know, when you go over to her house and like,
Starting point is 00:35:10 the furniture is covered in plastic and you're like, this sucks. So you're afraid I'm going to... Well, that might have... Yeah. Are you going to say that... Dwiger thinks that she put the plastic on the furniture for another reason.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I knew... That might have just been for you. I was a preemptive measure. You're saying that... Good. Get a fucking jack off onto the furniture or something. Oh, okay. Thank you for spelling that out for me.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Or spill barbecue sauce. I mean, I don't know where his head was at, but it was most likely jacking off. Right. Because guys do that. Guys jack off. Guys do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 They like to talk about it. They're like, oh, I jack off. Anyway, about jacking off. I mean, I... We mark our territory. It's a thing. But by the way... That was basically you being a fly on the wall
Starting point is 00:35:58 and Mitch's carful of Quincy friends. That was their convo on the road trip. I'll do it right now. No. That was on the car ride. I didn't... That wasn't in person now. David or Chris Pratt's appearance.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Don't waste it on me. These gems. These gems. Maryland, Richie Richie Rich. Legends of the Fall. Street Fighter movie. Any of these... Richie Rich.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Legends of the Fall. Respect. But Richie Rich, come on. Trapped in Paradise. IQ, the movie IQ. Any of these? Tammy and them stinkers. Tammy and the T-Rex.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I know. I mean, I'm going down the list. They're getting worse. Yeah. None of those? I remember Legends of the Fall. Street Fighter. Street Fighter is unwatchable.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That's a pretty bad movie. Legends of the Fall is all right. There's a long-haired Brad Pitt. Very hunky. Very hunky Pitt. Man, so many movies just in the month of December, 1994. Just a million. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Anyways, none of those ring a bell. I failed. I failed you. No, I wasn't... I don't care. Antion's motto pretzel perfect, founded by Anne F. Bieler and her husband Jonas in 1988 in Downington, Pennsylvania. I don't know if it's Downington or Downington Town, but there was an Anne behind the brand,
Starting point is 00:37:40 Antion's, founded in 1988, owned by Focus Brands now. Thank God. Focus Brands. Yes. Thank God there was an actual Antion. Well, it's like we learned that Wetzel's pretzels, there's an actual guy named Wetzel. Yeah, that seemed insane. It seems like a made-up name, but his name was actually Wetzel, and he got into the pretzels
Starting point is 00:37:58 business maybe because of that. Same case with Antion's. Antion's owned by Focus Brands, and Focus Brands owns the following. Carvel, Cinnabon, Jamba Juice, Schlotsky's, and how about this? Focus features. How about this as a point of connection? Focus Brands owns Moe's Southwest Grill, which is the chain we reviewed with Mary Lynn in Hot Lanta.
Starting point is 00:38:21 No. Yes. Mary Lynn, you like Focus? The Focus Brands is a... The Focus Brands. I've been to many of Jamba Juice. Wow. Focus Brands.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Can you run them through them again? Yes. Antion's Carvel, Cinnabon, Jamba Juice, Schlotsky's, and Moe's Southwest Grill. Okay. Schlotsky's we have in Michigan, where I'm from. I don't think they have those in California, or they're tucked away. Yes. I haven't seen them.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I've been to a Schlotsky's, I think maybe in Arizona. I've been to it on a road trip before. I like Schlotsky's. I don't think I've ever had Carvel. Carvel's all right. I get nothing against Carvel. I feel like I see Carvel in the freezer section more, right? Like a...
Starting point is 00:39:07 Oh, really? Yes. There are parlors, but not as many. It's not like a Baskin Robbins or even a Cold Zone. I think. Yeah. And that's an East Coast thing as well, Carvel. I've seen them out here, but I actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:21 We've never covered Carvel. Mitch, that's another one. We've never covered before. Wow. Maybe we stay in the focus family. Bring Mary Lynn back. We do a Carvel debut. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:31 How about that? Okay. Now we're getting some heat now. This is exciting. We can't be stopped. This is called electricity. It's called momentum, and I feel it. Mary Lynn, being from the Midwest, are pretzels a big thing out there?
Starting point is 00:39:54 Is that something you had a lot of growing up? Oh my gosh. You just... I got ahead of a recovered memory when you said that. We used to have... Wow. This must be from the 70s. I might have to do a Googling.
Starting point is 00:40:04 There was a place called Hot Sam's in the mall. Hot Sam's. And when you went to the mall, you would get a Hot Sam. And it was a pretzel, and you would have it with mustard. And it was a big deal. Wow. I forgot about Hot Sam's. Why?
Starting point is 00:40:23 It's bringing out a recovered memory. I love it. Yeah, it's usually not great when that happens on the podcast. I mean, I have a fond memory of Hot Sam's. Wow. Probably I would got my ears pierced and then went to get a Hot Sam's reward. That's badass. Yeah, that sounds cool as hell.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Madonna lace fingerless glove, and then rewarded with a Hot Sam's. That's cool as shit. Yeah, this is... Well, Auntie Anne's is a very mall-centric... I mean, I had to go to a mall today, Wigs. Me too. I went to the South Shore Plaza in Braintree where they're going to shoot an upcoming Ryan Reynolds Will Smith. Ryan Reynolds Will Ferrell movie in the next few months at the South Shore Plaza,
Starting point is 00:41:18 which I auditioned for and I didn't get the part. But it would have been right here at the South Shore Plaza. Wow. This Auntie Anne's resides in that Plaza and has been there for a very, very long time. Ever since they redid it, I'm thinking probably early 90s when it came in. For me, I wouldn't go to the mall to get my ears pierced, but I would go and want to buy a lava lamp and not be able to and maybe get a Cartman t-shirt from Dappies or something. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Is it cool, Wigs? Yeah, I think it's cool. This Auntie Anne's took place of a Brigham's that was there, Wigs. There was a Brigham's that was there and then Brigham's started to shut down and go out of business, but I think it took the same spot. I haven't been in malls. That is the other thing. We've tried to stay away from malls during the pandemic and now we're vaccinated and I guess you can go back to them.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm shocked by how many people were just in the mall. There were so many people still in the mall. This is an indoor mall because I went to a mall, but it was an outdoor shopping center. It's a very different feel, but yeah, it is a weird feeling, I'm sure. Also, you know what else? I brought up that whole thing about Ryan Reynolds and Will Smith filming that movie there because Paul Blart, parts of Paul Blart were shot at the South Shore Plaza. Wow, how about that?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Isn't that fascinating? So this is years ago. What's the opposite of a recovered memory because that's what this episode is? I think I auditioned for Paul Blart. Wow. South Shore Plaza's turned us down left and right. It's fucked up. I had a meeting with, so this is like 10 years ago when Paul Blart was just out.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I had a general meeting. So if you're not in Hollywood, this is basically, you just go and you sit down, you have a conversation with someone to get some face time and it usually doesn't lead to anything. And you never talk to them again. You never talk to them again. This is how it goes is they're like, hey, I'm a really big fan of yours. And then you never hear anything from them ever again. They're gone forever.
Starting point is 00:43:45 They never help you or anything. You just put you, but you waste a day. So it's good. It just basically keeps some assistance employed to arrange these things, which is fine. So I went and I had a meeting with the Paul Blart production company. The guy was very nice and he was basically like, and I actually kind of liked his philosophy because he was like, here's what we do with movies here. We start with the title and work backwards.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So we had the title mall cop and like, what is mall cop? Let's figure it out. And then we ended up that it's Paul Blart mall cop and the movie was a hit. And I'm like, you know what? That's fine. Sure. Why not? That works as well as anything.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Start with the title. If I watched Paul Blart and you're like, how do you think they made this movie? I'd be like, they probably thought of a title and then worked from there. That's definitely a marketing thing that I didn't know after all these years. I think that's a common way of thinking because I had a brief conversation with somebody. I did this Kevin Hart movie called night school. Oh yeah. And the woman I talked to don't remember where she was from or her name because I'm cool like that.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But she told me that she said it in more words and she didn't say we pre-title things, but she said you have to come up with a big concept like that that will grab people's attention and mean something in the title alone. Night school. You get what that is. Yeah. 100%. Honey, I shrunk the kids is like my favorite example.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Oh, I get exactly what that is. Yeah. I'm on board immediately. That's an amazing one. Yeah. You could come up with a few of these right now. How about Sharkfest? That's a movie I'd want to see.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Yeah, I'd see Sharkfest. Sharkfest sounds fun. You got any whys? Here's one. Yeah. How about Bearfest? Poodle Wrangler. There you go.
Starting point is 00:45:57 These are all hit animal movies. Here we go. All right. We covered it. Hit animal movies. What do we got next? We covered the animal movies. Let's move on to...
Starting point is 00:46:06 All right. I got one, Marilyn. Pie Fest. Another Fest. I like it. I like it. Cake Town. Lonely Pines.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I'm switching genres. There we go. I'm going into like a horror, emotional horror. I like that. Genre. I like that a lot. Yeah. I got one.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Sleepy. I got one. Sleepy. That is a movie. Sleepy Hollow is a movie. I got one. You said Lost Pines? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Lost Pie. That also at the same time should make us all feel bad about Hollywood. That's the way that a lot of these movies are made up. Right. They think of a good sentence. Yeah, I guess so. That's terrible. And you liked that.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Why? Is that worked on you? I'm just like, you know what? This guy knows he's unapologetic about exactly what he's doing. And I kind of appreciate it on that level. Just like this is calculated to be a financial success. And this is our process for doing it. I'm just like, yeah, at least you know what you're up to.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Will Wigs, what you just said there is probably a lot of how I feel about the other options at Anteans outside of like two things. Wow. What a segue. Nice. So look, that Anteans were in there. That's the one I knew. I knew Anteans before I knew Wetzels.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I didn't know Wetzels. I had maybe heard of Wetzels. Like maybe I like heard Jay Leno. I'll be like, Wetzels, pretzels or something on the Tonight Show. Hey, are you here about this Wetzels pretzels? And I was a child watching it. Come on, Jay. Come on.
Starting point is 00:47:57 That's right, Kevin. Wetzels pretzels. And I probably was wrong, Jay. At home. I was at home laughing it up, slapping my knee, enjoying the fact that Wetzels pretzels was like a tagline. But I, but I, or sorry, a punchline. But I didn't, I didn't really know Wetzels and Anteans went into the mall there.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And that's kind of like the first thing I know. Of course I knew pretzels. Sure. You're at Fenway or Foxboro or whatever. You got a big pretzel. Your dad likes the spicy mustard and you're like, ooh, it's a little too spicy for me. I'm just a boy. Father, I'm just a boy.
Starting point is 00:48:36 The spicy mustard is too spicy. And he's like, this will make you a man. Eat some. Eat some. Just squeezing it into my mouth. The bottle of spicy mustard. But, but I liked pretzels. I kind of, I've said this to you before Wetzels.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I like hot, warm pretzels more. Yes. More than I like the, the, the just snacking pretzels unless 100%. Of course the better. Do you know what my mom said today? I brought these back and she said, I don't really like hot pretzels, which I. Whoa. And I said, that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Shocking. I'm fucking going back to LA this week. Hey Mitch, wasn't there some sort of a restaurant that we all went to where they served warm pretzels? That, no, that, that was that pretzel bread. It was that warm. It was that warm pretzeli bread. Wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah. And they served it with, they did serve it with cheese sauce. Oh, oh, that's right. No, you're right. There was a different restaurant we went to with a big, big ass pretzel. Right. With a, with cheese dipping sauce. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:49:43 What was it? A lot of pretzel eating on that. Well, there was, there was the bread that was warm and had like salt on it. It was kind of like a pretzel bread. Yes. But then also I think we had a big ass pretzel at one point. Yeah. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Maybe, maybe, maybe Pratt, maybe Chris Pratt made it for us. That's my guess. Um, but, but, uh, as a, as a boy, like I liked pretzels, but then there'd be a lot of salt on them. So I liked kind of like a plain pretzel. Right. I liked like the plain, plain pretzel with not a lot of salt on it. And then Auntie Ann's, I liked a lot because to me they were more buttery.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Like when that, when, when that opened up and I, and a lot of the times you were just getting pretzels at, at sporting events. That's kind of where you would get them. And then I don't live in Philadelphia. So I wasn't, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't getting pretzels left and right. You can get them on the street in Boston, I guess, but like usually near Fenway or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Like you can get a pretzel in the middle of the street in downtown Boston. Like you could in New York or I know Philadelphia has a few areas. The ones that you get from the street or a sporting event always had like kind of a cardboardy, like that was sort of the charm. I remember getting those that taste bad, but then you relish in the fact that they're kind of dry and bad. And you have to like, you have to dip it in, in mustard just to swallow it and have like a drink with it.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. Yeah. I even remember that from the movie theater. I remember getting movie three theater pretzels, then similarly like never being fresh, but yeah, it's a good, good mustard delivery system. Although these days at the, at the Staples Center in LA, there is, there's just a straight up Wetzel's there. That's how you get your pretzels at a ballpark these days.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Wags, I remember we sold, we sold pretzels at the movie theater I worked at, pretzel bites. Wow. Two stories I remember about this. One, a woman got an order of bonbons and asked for a side of cheese dipping sauce that comes with the pretzels. And I, and she got nothing else. And I had no idea what the fuck it was.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I didn't, I just gave her what she wanted and let her be on her way. Another thing, this guy, Dan Rakoskis, who went to our high school, who was our boss, basically he was the same age, but he was our boss. He threw a pet, he threw a pretzel piece at Micas through the delivery window. Micas dodged it, fucking nailed a customer right between the eyes. Wow. Then Rakoskis had to come out and apologize to the customer. It was very funny.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Micas pulled a W when the shoe was throw, was coming at it. He pulled a W, Micas pulled a W. Wow. But I, I, I like pretzels. When I went down to Philadelphia as a boy, we went to Amish country. We made pretzels. It was a fun time. I, I, I like pretzels, but the buttery Auntie Ann's pretzels were, that was to
Starting point is 00:52:31 me, was like a fun revelation of like, ooh, I like buttery, not as salty, a little more buttery. You can dip it in cheese. You know, like I remember like the first time I was like, oh, you dip it in cheese. Cause forever for me, like a pretzel was usually just with mustard. If you went to, if you went to Fenway park in the eighties, they were giving you mustard.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You know what I mean? You weren't, you weren't getting fucking pretzels and cheese. You were getting. Yes. Yellow mustard. Or that spicy brown mustard, which was too spicy for me as a boy. So. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It was too spicy like this will make you a man and make you eat it. Yeah. And then your dad was like, yeah. Yeah. And so that was a revelation again in six minutes. That was a revelation to me, but then also the cinnamon and sugar pretzel, which I'm sure everyone here agrees that the cinnamon and sugar does. I remember like this makes me feel like that makes me feel older in the
Starting point is 00:53:31 way that I was like, like a dessert pretzel. Like that's kind of like the first time I like saw a cinnamon sugar pretzel. I was like, oh, like a dessert pretzel, which seemed crazy to me. I think it's a relatively recent novelty. I don't think they always had that. I think pretzels were savory and salty for the longest time. I will say that, that what you talked about these being buttery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So I'm usually a wet souls man. I have more wet souls out here, although I've had, I've dabbled in anti-ans for sure, but going to this, this anti-ans experience over to the century city mall. It's a shared space with a Cinnabon, which is also owned by focus brands. And they, they have a jalapeno pretzel on the menu, which I wanted because I'm Southern of a heat seeker. You know, I like spicy foods, but it wasn't ready. And even though they offered to make one, it was like clearly going to be a hassle
Starting point is 00:54:18 for them. So I was like, I don't, you know, I'll just take a regular pretzel. You got it. It's hot and fresh. It's a cheese dip. What a safe. Yeah. I'm a hero.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I'm a true hero, not ordering the jalapeno pretzel. It would seem like it was going to be a pain in the ass. And I don't want to make their day any harder. You know what happened? If, if my dad was there, he's like, jalapeno pretzel makes you a man. He needs to get some spicy mustard. Shove it in your mouth. Squirt, squirt it down your throat.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Oh, come on, Jay. That's wrong. Kevin's there. So the, so I will say what I really liked about this original pretzel, which I thought was great. And you know, honestly, I'll tip my hand right now. I think their original pretzels is better than Wetzel's original pretzel. It's a great original pretzel.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Really? Yeah. I loved how buttery it was. Nice and buttery. A good amount of salt and that hot, hot salsa cheese dip, you know, I wish it was actually temperature hot. It was more sort of room temp. I wish they warmed it up a little bit, but still a good dipping sauce.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And I was eating this thing and I was like, this is great. This is a perfect mall treat. Well, Wax, here's my thought. This is where I'll connect what I said with that segue that you liked so much. Mall cop. That's a movie. Yeah. Pepperoni pizza pretzel.
Starting point is 00:55:33 That's a, that's a snack. I think it's the same sort of shit that they're just like sour cream and onion pretzel. Let's do like they were just, they're just some of these. So I, I agree with you that I, I, I've always been in the camp of Anteans over Wetzel's, but should, should I just get into what I got? Should I just, should I just go for it? Yes. I got like normal.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I got a shit ton. I got myself, I'll go over the savory pretzels first. I got myself an original pretzel wigs with that. It has the butter and a little bit of a salt on it, but not too much salt. I got the pepperoni pretzel. And that's it for, for, and then, oh, sorry, I've roasted garlic in a, in Parmesan pretzel. And so, oh, and a sour cream and onion pretzel. So I got, I, so that's, that's the four.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I got a lot of stuff. Like I said, I'll start off with the roasted garlic and Parmesan pretzel and the sour cream and onion pretzel. Both of them are just the pretzels buttered up and then they pour like a, just like a, like a powdery topping on top of them. That's just contained and, and it's just, they're not good. The powder, the powder is very strong. It's just not worth, it's not worth getting.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Neither of them. The sour cream and onion like didn't have a lot of taste to it, to me. And then the roasted garlic and Parmesan was like, had a ton of, it was like that powdery topping on it was extremely strong and just not right. Very, very pleasant. So both of those were just losers to me. I did not, I did not like either of them. I didn't really dip either in the sauce.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Maybe I should have, maybe that would have helped if all the flavors melded together, but it, but it was not my favorite. The original pretzel, I had a good time with it. The original pretzel is fun. It's a nice pretzel. You dip it in the different, in the different dip, dip, dip in sauces. Why? Cause I did, I did it a sorted dip set, which, and I got the, I got marinara sauce. I got honey mustard.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I got the two sweet sauces, which is, do you have them in front of you? There's a, Yeah. So I brought up the, wait, hold on. There's a pretzel section. Let me go to the dips. The sweet sauces are the, there's a light cream cheese dip, a rich, delicious cream cheese, and a sweet glaze dip. I got the sweet glaze dip.
Starting point is 00:57:46 What? What are you eating with the cream cheese dip? That's like, that is for like the savory, they're like, that's supposed to be like, you could dip your cinnamon sugar one in there, I guess. It's, it's, it's kind of close to the, the sweet, the sweet. You're pushing it with that. Yes. I concur. It's close to the sweet glaze dip.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And then also I'll say the caramel dip wigs was good. There's a little caramel dipper. And then I got the cheese. I got honey mustard and then marinara and then cheese and then the spicy cheese sauce. The original pretzel I was dipping around, I had a blast with it. That was one of my favorite pretzels. Dipping around should be the slogan. Dip it around.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Auntie Ann's dipping around. I mean, it, it was the, the, the regular pretzel tasted good. My mom and I both enjoyed it. Yes. And then I got the pepperoni pretzel, which has pepperoni, pepperoni pieces on it and like cheese. And you're supposed to dip that in the marinara. I got this one. I wasn't going to get it because that, but because I got the assorted dip set, I got,
Starting point is 00:58:52 I got the pepperoni pretzel as well. And I got to tell you, I thought it was going to suck and it was actually pretty good. It wasn't bad. My mom and I were both like, this is like better than it should be. And I didn't want to get it all. Like I think it sucks. Like the idea of it sucks. I don't like it, but the taste of it wasn't too bad.
Starting point is 00:59:11 But there were a couple of pretzels that still beat that out. I got the cinnamon and sugar pretzel nuggets. And let's, let's, let's, let's, let's real quick. Let's, let's loop Mary Lynn in here. I want to hear what you got from a, from a pretzel standpoint, starting with the savory side. Well, going back to just your, when I was getting jealous when you described the different, because my place did not offer jalapeno, did not pepperoni, did not offer roasted garlic, did not offer sour cream and onion.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Wow, man. I, for some reason, the full pretzel was dead to me. I could only see the pretzel bites. Like that seemed like the only appealing viable thing to me. And I was going to get all the pretzel bites. And I said to the guy, it's weird cause like he's coming at it from like, this is what I do. And I was like the wide eyes of a child. I'm like, can I get like, I'm staring at the window and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:00:17 can I get a combo with all the flavors? And he's like, yeah. And so we're talking and then I go, okay, like I want all of them. And he goes, we don't do samples. And then I must have been giving him a dirty look. Cause I was like, no, I want to get all the flavors. And then he was like, I misunderstood when you said combo. I thought you wanted like a drink and all that.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And so I was sort of single-minded of what I wanted. And we weren't understanding each other at all. We were not on the same page. So that was unfortunate. And then when I ordered, I made a mistake. I panicked. I only got two kinds. I did not get the plain or the salted.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I did not have a lot of options. I got a fricking hot dog bite pretzels. Yeah. This is exciting. It comes in a cup like this big. And that's the only size you can get. It doesn't come in a little bag. It comes in a large, like a, I would say bigger than a Starbucks
Starting point is 01:01:26 grande cup overflowing with hot dog pretzels. And then they put that cup in a bag. And then my other choice, I know I'm supposed to hit on the savory, but I only got two. The other one I got was the cinnamon and sugar, which was also an overflowing cup. And then again, I was in a bit of a panic and I didn't feel like I had a lot of options.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So I ordered the cheese sauce. How is it? Just the regular cheese sauce. Regular cheese sauce. But I feel like I kind of did it off because really in my heart, I would like to have gotten plain and tried a bunch of sauces because I think that a weight and you guys sort of touched upon it is like there's a purity to the plain pretzel,
Starting point is 01:02:12 especially when done right. But in the way that you were saying the pepperoni was surprisingly good. Same thing with the hot dog. Like I was kind of pissed off because I was like, what are we, what are we doing here? You know, this is like, you see that. Don't people have that like frozen those things for like appetizers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And then the hot dog was a full on exact flavor. It was like an Oscar Meyer hot dog. Yeah. But when I bit into that, it was like, this is so good. Wow. It's so good. I don't want it to be. And then it had like the brown, but I did slip out, which was not cool.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Like the hot dog slipped out of the bread as I was taking a bite. I probably should have been done in one bite, but you know, I'm a lady. So I wanted to do like two, three bites. Right. What you were saying happened to you and what actually happened to you is something that I would say happened to me on accident. No one would believe it if I was like, I ordered and I accidentally ended up with hot dogs.
Starting point is 01:03:20 People were like, yeah, right. And then I got like scared because I'm like, they were haunting me because I ate them in the car on the way home. I never opened the dipping sauce because I was eating them while they were warm. And I could not. Of course the cinnamon sugar one, it's delicious. It's ridiculous. Those are those are the prime example of anything dipped into any.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I feel like I've had the sour cream one years ago where they try to like make crazy flavors and you're just like, stop, like don't put a flavored powdered on it. Like why? But the cinnamon and sugar is amazing. It feels like you should be having it with coffee and I sort of alternated on the way home in the car. And by the time I got home, they were on my counter and I kept like,
Starting point is 01:04:07 I would be doing other stuff and I kept going back to them. And I was like, ugh, I disgust myself. And then I threw them all in the trash. Yep. I had to do the same thing. I had to cut myself off because I got the, the, the, to go into my sweet side, I got into the cinnamon sugar pretzel nugget. It's the same one you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:04:23 And I got these sweet glaze dip, which was way too sweet. Wow. That was, that was just like dipping that in that. It was, it was, it was too much. It was excessive. That's wild. To dip it into a sauce after it already has the powder on it. It's already so sweet and they, you know, like, they were like,
Starting point is 01:04:41 do you want to add a sauce? And I was like, oh, which sauce would you get? And they offered, you get the sweet glaze dip, the cream cheese one, the caramel that Mitch mentioned, or we could go to Cinnabon and get you some Cinnabon frosting because they were adjacent to Cinnabon. Which I was like, that's insane. I can't believe that they're going to do that. So I just opted for the sweet glaze dip.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And yeah. Did they recognize you? Did they realize what you were doing? I think they just saw that I was, I think they just saw that a big fat guy and we're like, we want to make him go away. So just a piece of it. I wish that my cashier had understood. I wish there was a way that I could have telegraphed like,
Starting point is 01:05:18 I'm trying to taste everything on your menu. Yeah. And you won't let me, this system that you have going on, going on like, no, I don't want a combo. I want you to try everything. Can you make it happen for me? You know, and then I, yeah, I should have asked to talk to the manager. The combos aren't great because the combos come with just a soft drink
Starting point is 01:05:39 when they should come with a lemonade because the lemonade is the whole thing they have there. Like you can pay extra to upgrade to a lemonade, but it's just, I don't know. They should have a lemonade combo there. That's my one note. Oh, that's their special drink is the lemonade. That's their drink.
Starting point is 01:05:54 But I will say that the sweet glaze dip was way too sweet, just cloyingly sweet. It was just like, you know, it was just, it was just liquid sugar. And it was, it was too much. And then the, but the cinnamon sugar pretzel nuggets were delightful. And I, yeah, I had to cut myself off. I had to do the exact same move, crumple up the bag and then throw the bag into a mall trash can.
Starting point is 01:06:12 So I didn't need any more of them. Mitch, you also got some cinnamon sugar pretzel in some form. I did. Yes. Cinnamon sugar pretzel pretzel nuggets, which I wanted to get nuggets in some form, but I was sad to get the nuggets for the cinnamon sugar because I liked the cinnamon sugar pretzel. I know, but I was like, let's just try the nuggets.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And the nuggets were good. They were great. They maybe would have been my favorite, if not for, for something that I'll say coming up. Oh boy. So I'll go, I'll go over sweet. And then I'll, so I got, so, so all my sweet stuff. And then there's two more things that are savory,
Starting point is 01:06:47 but they're different from the other savory. I got a lot of stuff. So cinnamon sugar pretzel nuggets. I got those. I was dipping them in the, in that sweet glaze and the caramel. I liked the caramel way more. That was my favorite of the sweet dipping sauces. And then I also got, um, oh, actually for, for sweet stuff,
Starting point is 01:07:07 it was, I got a frozen lemonade mixer, a strawberry. I'm sorry, a peach frozen lemonade mixer, which is their special one for the summer. And I got to tell you that was good. Both of, both of the drinks I got were very sweet, but, but the peach one was the better one. And then I got a strawberry lemonade mixer. So that's not frozen.
Starting point is 01:07:27 So the peach one was frozen. The strawberry one was just lemonade, both good. The strawberry one is just so, so sweet. It was like insanely sweet. The peach one, this frozen peach, where I got in front of me, nice little summer treat. Well, I'm still very sweet, but not as sweet as that. Like the other one is like neon red, basically.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Yeah. I had the same issue. I got the, you know, I got the blue raspberry lemonade mixer. I asked for recommendation. They were like, that's like, you know, the regular is the big, the big seller, but I like the blue raspberry. I tried it. Same thing.
Starting point is 01:07:58 It was just like neon blue and you know, it was like wiper fluid blue. And then it was just so, I like blue as a flavor, but it was just so intensely sweet. It was just too much. I couldn't finish it. I wish I'd gotten the peach one because it's not a peach one. I was like, ooh, that looks good,
Starting point is 01:08:14 but I'll go with the, you know, whatever. I didn't want to get more than one drink. Still very, very sweet. Well, I'll say that it was, it's insanely sweet, but it's not bad. It hit the spot. The, the, the, the strawberry lemonade one was just, it just is so artificially fake that I'm like,
Starting point is 01:08:31 shouldn't Auntie Ann's lemonade be good? And I, I wish that I got it. I wish I got a regular lemonade to see how the regular one is. But also when I, when I was coming into the mall and leaving, there was a woman who was coming out while I was coming in and she had like a, I think it was a strawberry lemonade. Like there were people who were getting the lemonades left and right. While I was there,
Starting point is 01:08:51 there were a ton of people just getting Auntie Ann's. This is a Tuesday afternoon. It's a Tuesday afternoon at the mall. You know, like, I guess some schools are out. It's May 25th on the day we're recording this, but like, can I say something that I've, please know where my story was going to start or stop. But I need to say that when I was at the mall,
Starting point is 01:09:13 it was kind of emotional for me because I dropped my son off with his friends at the mall for the first time. And like, they met girls there. Wow. And when I went to the Auntie Ann's, where it was located in that mall was right across from the play station, the play area that I took, that he was at as a baby. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Yeah. Oh my goodness. It was a lot. It was a jam packed. Wow. So there was that. It was like a lot going on. But the experience of going in the mall, I don't care for. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And then I had one more thing to say. Just jumping in there. When you mentioned, shouldn't they make lemonade good? They should, that should carry over with the idea of a handcrafted. You wanted to feel like we made this pretzel for you. And we're just going to have these like slushy, way too sweet blue drinks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Make like a good lemonade to go with my handcrafted pretzel. Fully gay. I'm going to say for me, it was kind of emotional too, because I thought back to like the time my mom first dropped me off at the mall and I went to that Auntie Ann's. I didn't meet any girls. I met no girls. I wasn't there with friends.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I just went to the Auntie Ann's and had some pretzels. But, you know, there was one thing I was surprised by. So the lemonade, again, yes, too sweet. The peach one was okay. But what I was surprised by, Wags, was my last sweet treat, which was the sweet almond pretzel. And that gets my bite of the night. That sweet almond pretzel is great.
Starting point is 01:10:58 That wasn't even an option at mine. Sweet almond pretzel is fantastic. It's dipping that in the caramel sauce. It's like a, it's a really good pretzel. It's not. I should have gotten it. And it's not super, the pretzel itself is not super sweet. And then when you get a little bit of the caramel on it, it's, it's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:11:18 If no one's ever had that sweet almond pretzel, that's the way to go, I think. And then I, Mary Lynn, I joined you, but I didn't get hot dog bites. I got two full, I got an original pretzel dog and a jalapeno cheese pretzel dog. And I got to say, I kind of liked those too. The jalapeno cheese pretzel dogs has like a, it's like a pretzel casing. And then like covered in cheese and then jalapenos on there. And the dog, the dog tastes, the dog tastes pretty good. I think that they use like a, some sort of, do they use like Coney dogs or something?
Starting point is 01:11:49 They, there's some brand that they have a crossover with. I don't know. You can look it up. It's a Nathan's hot dog. It's a Nathan's hot dog. That's what it is. Really? Mine tasted exactly like a Oscar Meyer that I had growing up.
Starting point is 01:12:01 That's for the full size dogs. I'm not sure on the mini dogs. Yeah. Yes. I was a regular Joey Chestnut in there. Wags taken down a Nathan's dog. It was, it was fantastic. Is that Joey?
Starting point is 01:12:16 Joey Chestnut is the Nathan's guy, right? Yeah. He's the competitive eater who famously will eat one hot dog. Is the other guy, is the other guy Kobayashi Kobayashi? That sounds right. Okay. But, but I, I enjoyed both of the dogs. I liked the plain one better just because there was less going on.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And my mom had a bite of that too. We were dipping it in the cheese sauce. We were having a good time. I thought, I thought both of them were pretty decent. But like, do you need any of that shit? Is the answer is the question? Yes. Do you need all that stuff?
Starting point is 01:12:47 I mean, that's the other thing too. Like all, so much of this is like to me, the, the plain pretzel and the cinnamon and sugar pretzel and now that almond pretzel, which I like, I don't know if you need more than the three, but they were selling them. They were selling them. They were selling everything left and right when I was there. It was a fucking, it was a zoo while I was there on a Tuesday
Starting point is 01:13:06 afternoon. I would have liked a pizza bite. I mean a pretzel bite jalapeno with the cheese sauce. I would have, I would have been into that. Yeah. Not an option. Yeah. Well, we should get to our final thoughts on Anteans.
Starting point is 01:13:20 So Mary Lynn, you've done the podcast before, but just a refresher. We'll each go around sort of take our turn giving our closing argument, if you will, on this week's chain and end that by giving it a rating from zero to five forks. You are our guest. We'll begin with you. Well, pressure. Wow, man.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I'm about to give this hot dog bite. I don't feel good about it, but I'm about to give it four forks. Wow. Four forks. Oh my God. Wow. I love it. It was really tasty.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I like it a lot. I like that. I have to cry because I don't want to be eating that. I don't want to be eating that. I don't know if this, yeah, maybe that's the emotional day that you had as well. That's a, but I love it. I'm thinking about it right now. I want to eat it.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It is not good for me. Yeah. These are cheap calories. These are terrible calories. It's not good for my idea that I'm going to go plant based. Everything about it is terrible and it was delicious. And I'm, I would say this, I'm actually going to say the same about the cinnamon and sugar bites.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I'm going to give them a four fork as well. Wow. They were a little bit chewy like each bite. It's not like it had, you know what I mean? Like I would say ultimately I'd like for it to have like a kind of a crunchy out and then a soft interior. And they were sort of uniformly chewy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 But for, for a mall pretzel, it was delicious and I didn't want to stop eating them. So overall you're giving, you're going four forks for the restaurant overall. Wow. It sounds like, yeah, wow. Wow. Wow. Great score. Mr. Slice, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:15:16 Well, I think auntie Ann's pretzels are a lot like my auntie Ann who's passed away recently and that like RIP, that like they're not, it's not like the most fun when I think about it, auntie Ann's like just like my auntie Ann, not the most fun, but I love them both. You know, I like, I love my auntie Ann and I love auntie Ann's pretzels. They're, they've been around for in my life for a while. Which one do I love more? I'm not going to, I'm not going to reveal that. Reveal it.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Human or food? Which one do you like more? I'll give it to the, I'll give it to the human, but they, but, but you know, it's, it's just something that I'm like, to me, it's not a thing that I'm like going out and craving to get an auntie Ann's pretzel. Right. But I was blown away for, for two reasons. One, when I got there, I was like, there's no way they're going to get this order right.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I ordered so much shit. And I did it on the app Y's, which by the way, the app worked pretty well for me. I couldn't get mine working. Oh, I, my, the app worked well for me and they were, they were, they were basically getting my order together while there was just a rush of people. So they were like making a pretzel for me and putting it up there. And then like, and then they were making pretzels for other people and like putting the pretzels next to the pretzels that they had for me.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I was like, there's no way this order will be right at all a hundred percent right. Nothing, nothing was wrong. So I give them props for that. That's one thing. And then two, I give them props cause there were people coming in and out of there like fucking crazy. How many employees were there? There were about five people working there.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Oh wow. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big, that's hopping. Maybe four, but they were, they were, they were, they were firing on all cylinders. They did, they did a great job. I was shocked by just people going in on a Tuesday afternoon around like 12 45 p.m.
Starting point is 01:17:15 People just in there getting on Dianne's pretzels and really enjoying it and wigs. What could this place do differently? That would make, they're doing exactly what they want. I think that some of these pretzels are just like I say sometimes, ungepachka wigs. There might be just a little too much going on with some of these things you say, right? There might be going on to like a little too much going on with these pretzels. But people are enjoying it and the cinnamon and sugar pretzels good and the plain pretzels good.
Starting point is 01:17:43 The only issue I had is that my regular cheese dipping sauce was not that great. But besides that, I don't know. I was going to go like 3.999 forks because I thought that it couldn't be golden play club, but Mary Lynn's score made me think I'm just going to go for forks and give it for forks. Wow. Four forks for Antion's pretzels from the spoon man. It's in the golden play club right now, which it won't be for long.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Go ahead with your score. So I didn't quite order the arsenal that Mitchell did, but I did get something from the savory side, some of them sweet side and one of their signature lemonade. I will say that I think the lemonade is kind of frozen in the 90s. It's a very much like an old school approach of we've got this artificially sweetened thing that looks unnatural as opposed to, you know, like, I don't know, how about a strawberry lemonade with some fresh strawberries to Mitch's note? So I would, I would like to see them maybe reform the, the lemonade side of the menu,
Starting point is 01:18:39 but you know, then again, maybe if people are buying them, maybe people want their, want what they're offering now. All that said, it folds back into the central thesis of this podcast, which is how is the chain at accomplishing what it's trying to accomplish? Does it meet its goals as a concept? This is trying to be a pretzel place. And I agree Mitch is kind of ungepochka how the, the, the bloat of the menu, it's like they have too much stuff going on, but the stuff that they have that they, that, that
Starting point is 01:19:09 is it like, you know, right in their wheelhouse, it is right down the middle. I think they absolutely nail. And that original pretzel with the hot salsa cheese dip was so good. It was so delightful. It's scratched that sometimes that is exactly the thing I'm craving. And I know I can get it from Anteans ditto the cinnamon sugar pretzel nuggets. I'd get those less frequently just cause they're so nutritionally abhorrent, but those are also great.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah. Welcome to the golden plate club. Wow. Anteans pretzel is four forks. I'm shocked. How do I go any lower? I'm shocked. I'm shocked.
Starting point is 01:19:42 I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I'm going to ask you guys, what part of the pretzel do you like the most? I've said this before, but I like the heart, the center of the pretzel that we're at twists. I like that heart of the pretzel. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Like the middle, like the very middle where you got that.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I thought you meant the inside. Oh, no. Well, also you're right here. I like the knot. Yes. Yes. The knot. I like this right here.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah. I would go for the end where the very end, the little nub. Oh, all right. The nubs are good. The nubs are good. Yeah. With the baked outside. I want that harder outside.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I like the softness. I like the softness a little bit. I like like the shoulder strap, like the big arching part. Yeah. The McDonald's part. Guys, we can share a pretzel and he can have the parts that we like. Wow. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It's a date. When Mitch is back in LA, we'll get together. We'll share a pretzel and we'll be right back with more dough boys. Wags. Unlike Mary Lynn's son, I feel like we won't be meeting any girls. I think Mary Lynn's going to bail on us and we'll be sharing a pretzel. I want it right now, guys. I will go.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Welcome back to dough boys. We are here with Mary Lynn Rice Cub. It's time for a segment. You know, time travel figures heavily in the plot of the tomorrow war and in that spirit, Mitch has a food stuff from the past to see if it holds up in our present. It's snack to the future. Wow. Got to go snack in time.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Got to go snack in time. Got to go snack in time. Snack in time. Okay. So. Now, Wags. Yeah. I got a little reveal for you.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Well, one thing you surprise us because, you know, snack to the future, you think that you're going to do a snack in time balloon year or whatever. You know, you think you're going to do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know that you were playing the Terminator theme song, the music from the Terminator, only because I saw the video you shared, but there was a little button you didn't push, which was the share.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Oh, it didn't share the audio. The share audio button. Got it. Yeah. We got an acapella version of you singing that song, which was terrifying in many ways. I mean, you won't hear that on the podcast. Emma will put the music under the song for you under your under your singing voice there. But for us, it was horrifying.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Maryland, you agree? It was scary. Yeah. It was scary. All right. No taken. But Mitch, the historical snack you have is something that got brought back from the dead in 2020.
Starting point is 01:23:06 That's right. The 7-Eleven. It was at first an exclusive arrangement. Now it's available at other places. Dunkaroos debuted in 1999. I'm sorry. 1999. Dunkaroos debuted in 1990.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Excuse me. The original mascot was Sydney, a caricature of modern Australian culture who wore a hat, vest, and tie, and spoke with an Australian accent and was voiced by John Cameron Mitchell of Hedwig and the Angry Itch. Wow. How about that for casting? Discontinued in 2012. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:34 2012. That's a long run. Yeah. That's a good run. It is. Good run. Something I've never heard of. You've never heard of these?
Starting point is 01:23:43 No. Dunkaroos were big. When I was, this was an elementary school snack. I got these packed in my lunch at one point. Right. Dunkaroos. 1990. If you looked at my brown paper bag or whatever lunchbox, my Jeffrey Epstein lunchbox that
Starting point is 01:24:00 I brought to school, there would be a bologna. Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah. I was a fan. There would be a bologna sandwich. There would be a bologna. You know what? My Jay Leno lunchbox wise.
Starting point is 01:24:13 There you go. And then you'd open it and say, enjoy your lunch. But I would have a bologna sandwich, probably some Dunkaroos, a very healthy lunch. I don't even know what a Dunkaroos is and I don't like it. I don't like the sound of it. I don't like the way it appears. It looks to be some kind of a plastic peelback thing. It's a plastic.
Starting point is 01:24:35 They're a bit like handy snacks. I know you'll know handy snacks as well. The red bar that you put the cheese on the cracker. So these are like cookies with cream frosting. These are like... Oh, wow. And you know what? As a kid, I don't even think I loved these that much.
Starting point is 01:24:52 I think the cookies used to be in a kangaroo shape, but they were something that I tried for a while. And I'm sure I loved them, but I liked handy snacks better. I know that that's a fact. Looking back. Well, yeah. The handy snacks are better. I remember liking Dunkaroos.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I remember... Yeah, Portmanteau of Kangaroo and Dunk. And I think... And the... I remember them being kangaroo-shaped cookies. I'm not sure if that's still the case. I'm not sure if that's a real memory or not. I know this could be a Mandela effect.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And I remember they had like a vanilla frosting and a chocolate frosting, and most kids opted for the chocolate. But man, I went with that vanilla. Wow. Well, I got to say this, I'm just peeling it back now. Now they're boring circle cookies with a D on them is what they are now. And look, I know that you said that we shouldn't... Maryland, I know that we already did so many...
Starting point is 01:25:47 We went a little jizz crazy earlier on in the episode. Sure. But I just want you to look at this. Look at that. Wow. It's jizzy. Crazy is back. It looks like clown jizz because there's little fun sprinkles with this.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And I just say, I hated it by the name, I hated it by the look, and I hate it now that you've peeled it back and I see what's in there. The dipping sauce looks fucking... It looks bad. The dipping sauce looks really bad. It's like when you opened it, it looked like it had already... It wasn't a straight... It looks like...
Starting point is 01:26:24 Yes. Ew. Okay. So that's an automated and they just went... And it didn't... Yes. It's not flat. It looks gross.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Yeah. It truly looks like a jizzy squirt. I don't know what kind of magical creature would put these little fun colors in there, have it in their jizz, but this is... That is what it looks like. I'm not sure how it will taste, but I don't... It's not appetizing. I don't want to eat it really.
Starting point is 01:26:47 But I'm going to try one right now. Here we go. Here's one on a little cookie. Here we go, Wags. I'm realizing and misremembering this quite a bit because I'm looking at some vintage packaging and it is like a birthday frosting, right, that you compared to clown ejaculate. It's like a... It's got sprinkles in it and that seems like that was the case in the 90s as well.
Starting point is 01:27:12 What is the cookie like a shortbread? So on the package it says vanilla. It says vanilla cookies with vanilla frosting with rainbow sprinkles. Oh, okay. So okay. Emma, you have tried these recently, right? Yeah, I had them a few weeks ago. And your thoughts were that they were bad?
Starting point is 01:27:35 They just did not hold up to my memory. I don't know if that's nostalgia affecting it or not, but yeah, it was not... I didn't even finish the package. I was like, this is not worth it. I also remember the cookies being bigger. I thought they were in kangaroo shapes. Yeah, I thought it was like the handy snacks where you had like a few layered like bigger cookies, not just this like bucket of little circles.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Yes. When I looked up some images of vintage dunkaroos, that does appear to be the case. Our memories are not false there. It is a longer, thinner kangaroo, loosely kangaroo shaped cookie. Yeah. And you could like make a little cookie sandwich with your frosting if you wanted to, but those little cookies were like... And half of them were broken and dusted, like turned into dust.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Dusted cookies. I'll say this. 1990 and me was probably excited about these. And when I saw this, you know, what we are now calling that gizzy frosting, the clown ejaculate frosting, I thought it's not going to taste, it's not going to taste gizzy. It's going to taste pretty good, I'm sure. But you'd be surprised how gizzy it does actually taste. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:28:47 And you're an expert at giz taste, right? Yeah. And you'd be surprised by how not great the frosting it is. Oh, what a bummer. But it's also, of course, it's frosting and it's sweet, but it's just is not... It gives you a little bit of that birthday cake flavor wise, which I know you like the kind of... Yeah, I love birthday flavor.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Birthday flavor, but I do not like the consistency of it. No, it's bad. I don't like the look of it. It's just not that good. It's like something there's no way I would ever buy that to feed to a child. There are so many things that taste better that are not that. You know what, Wags? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Maybe my dad was right back then. I had to be a man and I had to get that fucking spicy brown mustard down my throat because by comparison, this shit, this sucks. I should... Hey, Wags, when I became a man, I put away childish things. Mm. Corinthians. Corinthians.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Book three, chapter 36. I don't know if that's the right... I don't know if that's right, anything, but... This might be a little over the top and obvious because I know the concept is to have a cookie experience and Emma, when you described it as a child, as actually building your own cookie, that sounds kind of fun. If you're going to go out of your way to buy a trashy snack, why not just get a Snickers? Get something that is a real candy bar that you know that you're going to get the flavor
Starting point is 01:30:29 and the quality. Exactly. Like why mess around with this bullshit? Well, and they're clearly for kids. The whole concept is the packed up little contained thing that you can send in a lunch box or whatever. But I don't know. And there are so many better options for...
Starting point is 01:30:46 You can get little individually packed things of Oreos and stuff that I would much rather get than that. Right. Get an Oreo. Get a little tiny bag of Oreos. Exactly. I mean, my son, there have been times... It's been only a couple of times in his life, really, those little liquid Wags, but get
Starting point is 01:31:01 something that's so ridiculous, or next to the Ring Pop, sometimes there's those little plastic things that just have liquid chemical sugar that you're supposed to just drink. That to me is maybe a better option, this. Yeah, if you're going to go disgusting, don't try to get something that claims to be cookie like. Yeah. Because then you can just get an Oreo. I'm actually...
Starting point is 01:31:29 I rate about this all the time. Well, I got to say this, that I also don't know if these are marketed specifically towards kids, or if this is nostalgia is cool. I think this is a hipster-y, you get these, you take your scarf off your neck, and then you scarf down Wags, I think that's what it is. Scarf off, scarf down, and it doesn't work. If you're trying to feed off the whole nostalgia thing, why wouldn't you make it the same as it was in the 90s?
Starting point is 01:32:00 Because the people who are going to buy it are looking for that kangaroo-shaped cookie in the... I'm sorry. You know what I mean? Well, that's the core miscalculation, and that leads me to believe that they are just like, we know people are going to buy one of these out of curiosity. This will be a limited release, we'll get people, we'll hooker, we'll, what was I trying to say?
Starting point is 01:32:22 Hookline and sink? Yeah, we'll get these guys hookline and sinker. I just said we'll hooker for some reason, I was like, that's not a thing you say. We'll get these guys hook like and sinker, hookline and sinker. These rubes, we'll fool them. There's a sucker born every minute and they're going to buy our dunker rubes. These scarf-wrapped fools. Wags, will hooker sounds like a cool dude.
Starting point is 01:32:42 I just love hookers. A little hooker, he's fun to hang out with. Yeah, will hookers. Saturday night, meeting him in the city, getting with little hooker, and then go to the pool hall. He should co-host this podcast. Now, here's my last thought, Wags. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:00 What's the deal here? Do we send the Terminator back to kill this or do we have it erased like Marty McFly's family when they start to disappear? What do we do? I don't think we want it to never like have existed. I think we want our memory to, I think we want it to be like a, it's like a, what was the Terminator everyone hated, the Christian Bale one? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Terminator Genesis? There was a one before Genesis. Salvation maybe? Oh, salvation. Okay. Yeah. Terminator salvation. We want it to, it's like a Terminator salvation.
Starting point is 01:33:37 We want salvation to like have never come out. You know what I mean? We want the original Terminator to exist, but we don't want salvation to be there. It's the Biff timeline. We just want to erase the Biff timeline. All right. Yeah. Well, let's get, that's what I vote.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Erase the Biff timeline. Erase, we don't need the new version of these. Yeah. Let's just, let's, it's better to think about these things in the past than to taste this fucking, the clown ejaculate fucking shitty version of this. An unnecessary reboot. If you will. Like sometimes that happens with, you know, this is the show that was on for a while and
Starting point is 01:34:08 they they're like, oh, it's coming back and then it comes back and it's like, eh, it was all, it was fine. Why originally? Yeah. Just like the tomorrow war. Let's get some original properties out there. There you go. More original IP.
Starting point is 01:34:19 And hey, another reason to be excited for your upcoming film. By the way, Mitch, when you're talking about taking someone's scarf, like taking your scarf off, I thought you were going to be like, and then your head rolls off because that was keeping your, keeping it attached to your body. Yeah. Is that, is that like an old story? Is that like a, is that a, yeah, that's a poem. I think it's a, I remember being from like scary stories to tell in the dark.
Starting point is 01:34:42 That's what I thought it was. That's what I thought it was. You know, let's scare the shit out of me. It still does. Hey, that was a, by the way, I tried to get those. I went to my 7-Eleven. They didn't have the Dunkaroos and they also see flummoxed at the very idea of them. So.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Oh my God. What'd you get instead? Did you get a slurpee or anything? I got a big Perrier. Oh, that's good. Trying to, trying to cut down on the cows, the necessary cows. Hey, that was Snack to the Future. Just like a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:35:10 We value your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And we have a voicemail today. Let's take a listen. Hi, Doughboys. This is Chase, Springfield, Missouri. I just was curious if there is a food hill that you guys are willing to die on as far as surprisingly good.
Starting point is 01:35:28 I'd argue that my workplace cafeteria makes a better chicken sandwich than Wendy's or Popeye's. No one believes me. Are there any takes that you guys have that people just flat out refuse to believe? Thanks. Happy eating. Well, I feel like that's what this whole podcast is, isn't it? Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Just us being angry about stuff and people saying we're wrong and we're still just mad and say we're right. Yeah. I mean, it's just a series of hills we die on. But I think he's talking specifically about like, here's like a take you have that maybe no one else has or that you think is like, it's not like, oh, I think, I think Karrie's chicken sandwich is better than Popeye's. That's a hot take, but that's not like a one unique to you.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Do you want me to tell you the hill I'm most likely to actually die on? Yes, please. Is an actual hill? Walking up a hill, shaking your head, walking up it, it makes the most sense. I think that's I'd walk up a hill. My heart would give out and I'd die on the hill falling down a hill. All right. I could fall down a hill.
Starting point is 01:36:43 That's, you know, I live on a hill here in Quincy Wag. So that's right. It's very, it's likely to happen. I'll probably die here at some point in my life. Oh, God, that's grim. Oh, I like it. I want to die in this. I want to die and then live here eternally.
Starting point is 01:36:55 It would be the dream come true. You want to hunt your childhood home? I want, I want to, I want to buy, I want to do something where I can buy this house forever so no one else lives in it and my spirit and you know what, just let my body decompose in it. Just let my body stay down in the basement and then I'm here forever. That's, that's the dream. Who doesn't love their childhood home?
Starting point is 01:37:15 Mitch, we were talking childhood or we're talking high concept movies earlier. I think you just hit on one. Wow. Wow. A guy buys his house indefinitely after his death. Like it's in his will. He owns the property for all time and he just, his ghost just lives there and he's just like part of the neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Yeah. And then yeah, and like the other neighbor is like, you got to mow your lawn or something. There's could be some fun debt be had there. He can't do it because he's a ghost. I mean, what's a conflict? Sounds like a... Just sounds like an easy fun time. Yeah, I'd like that.
Starting point is 01:37:51 You are the movies you've pitched that you were sincerely think are good or is this one and then ghost zoo you also... Ghost zoo is a home run. Ghost zoo is a slam dunk. It's a, it's a family movie where kids are trapped there after dark and it's haunted by, it's a, it's an abandoned zoo that's haunted by dead animals and all their spirits are there and it's spooky as shit. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Kids love the idea of dead animals. Well, you don't say that. You say like ghost animals. Okay. All right. All right. Sure. I know that we die on all the time is that we think the Wendy spicy chicken sandwich is
Starting point is 01:38:23 the best chicken sandwich. That's obviously a big one. All right. Here, I think, I think I got one, Mitch. I think this, this kind of fits the criteria. You know what's a pretty good burger? A vending machine, microwaved burger. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Sometimes that is not bad. Even though it's a disgusting like meat sponge and it's way too damp, it has the wrong texture. It just sometimes it is, it is kind of delicious. Why? You know what? I'll take that one step further. I agree with that. I'll die on that hill with you and I'll say this, that the white castle, microwavable cheese
Starting point is 01:38:55 burgers are better than the white castle burgers themselves. There you go. Wow. I like that. That's a hill I'm willing to die on. Here's one string cheese. Stop peeling it. Just eat it.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Just eat the damn thing. I don't like that at all. Actually, that makes me mad. Well, that that's a hill I'm going to die on. Marilyn, just bite into that bad boy. Peel. Just eat other cheese if you don't want to peel a string cheese. Eat other cheese.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I agree with that. I agree with that. I want to bite it. I want to chomp it. Marilyn, do you have a food opinion that you're willing to die on a hill for? Do you have something that a strong opinion? I mean, not really. I wasn't really prepared for that question.
Starting point is 01:39:33 I know. I can say that I've tried to make, this isn't that exciting, but I had this experience. I enjoy it. I hope that you enjoy me telling you. I've tried to make French fries multiple times at home in the oven, and it's like I forgot about tater tots. And then I got tater tots and I was like, why would I ever try to make homemade French fries again?
Starting point is 01:40:00 Wow. Yeah. The tater tots. You got to get it real crispy. It takes way longer than you think it would. It takes longer than other, you know, I have to say there are there are staples that I feed my son. I don't want to say like I'm not proud of it.
Starting point is 01:40:16 It's just, it's just, this is what's happening. He'll have, I'll make a healthy meal and he, you know, he wants like taquitos or there's a miniature tacos from Trader Joe's. The tater tots will take double the time of a taquito. Wow. And I accidentally overcooked the taquito and I had to try it to see like if it was even edible. And it was like the most delicious thing I've ever tasted.
Starting point is 01:40:44 It was an overcooked frozen taquito. Wow. And I was shocked because I was like, I don't eat this stuff. And I, it was fantastic. I have a hill I'm willing to die on. Cheese pizza is the best version of pizza. I like it. I'm willing to die on that hill.
Starting point is 01:41:03 I don't agree with it, but I like the take. I'll defend to the death you're right to say. Same. Same. Doughboys, Nick and I are just willing to die. Period. There's nothing, don't eat anything else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:17 We're going to die. We're going to death today. Yeah. Here's a hill I'm willing to die on. Rice is dessert. Oh no. They're killing me. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:41:28 And you know what, Wags? Yeah. Mango sticky rice is dessert. Mango sticky rice is dessert. And you know what, a damn good one. Let us know your, let us know your food takes you're willing to die on. Hashtag, um. This is going to be good.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Hashtag hill to fry on. Wow. And if you have a question or comment about the World Chain Restaurant, you can email us at doughboyspodcast at gmail.com, or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-4636-844. And to get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, you can join the Golden North Platinum Plate Club at patreon.com slash Doughboys. Marilyn Ricegub, such an absolute delight to have you on the show.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Thank you so much for making time for us. The Tomorrow Wars on Amazon Prime July 2nd. Tell us about the movie and anything else you'd like to promote. Oh boy. I'm super excited for the movie. I did a comedy special in my garage. Yeah, I'm doing a lot of stand-up around town. Follow me on social.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Follow my story of my divorce on TikTok. Yeah, I said it. I'm just excited for the Tomorrow Wars. Me too. Long time coming. Tomorrow, Tomorrow War Month is going to keep rolling along. Because I know it's not official Tomorrow War Month. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Amazon still wants us to do it, but it's, they were not getting paid. Sounds about right, but that's good. It's good. Tomorrow War Month. People should be excited to see the both of you in this movie. It's going to be rad. July 2nd. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:43:03 July 2nd. Check it out. And Mary Lynn, your special is live from the pandemic. You can find that. It's linked in your bio on your socials. That's on Vimeo. Yes. Check that out.
Starting point is 01:43:14 We did Earth to Ned Month. Well, it wasn't officially Earth to Ned Month. We didn't get money from Disney Plus. By the way, this was an Earth to Ned, the Disney Plus show I wrote on that we had some guests on the show for. We were talking and I was like, hey, you gave me all that shit for Earth to Ned Month, remember? And then you were like, no, that wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:43:34 That was Susser. And then we looked it up in our text and Susser was like, what's with all this Earth to Ned shit? Susser was like being a complete asshole about it. Yeah. Kick his ass when we see him next in person. He's our mediator and we love him. Hey, that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Until next time, for Mr. Slice, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigar. Happy eating. See ya. Want more Doe Boys? Check out the Doe Squad, our Discord server. You get Doe Squad access plus the Doe Boys double when you join the Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doe Boys. That's patreon.com slash Doe Boys.

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