Doughboys - bb.q Chicken with Tansu Philip
Episode Date: July 25, 2024Tansu Philip (@tansuphilip, Viva La Boba) joins the 'boys to talk boba, weed, and eating habits before a review of bb.q Chicken. Plus, a special boba edition of A Single Item Must Be Banished....Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:http://www.bbqglobal.com/aboutus/ceomessage.asphttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/forklife-korean-fried-chicken-transnational-comfort-food-180965128/https://ricebowldeluxe.com/story-of-korean-fried-chicken/https://www.yorienn.com/post/a-brief-history-of-korean-fried-chicken-the-other-kfc-with-chivago-chicken-in-carrollton-txhttps://www.mashed.com/736209/the-untold-truth-of-bb-q-chicken/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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50,000 stores over the world in 2030.
This is the stated vision of Yoon Hong-Yoon, founder and chairman of a South Korean fried
chicken restaurant.
If this monstrously ambitious expansion plan holds, by next decade, Yoon's chain would
usurp McDonald's and Starbucks as the world's largest fast food brand.
And while it may sound ludicrous, when Yoon launched his concept in an already crowded
market back in 1995, he silenced the
doubters by scaling up to 1,000 locations faster than any chain restaurant in history.
Like a great many dishes, Korean fried chicken's historical origin is disputed and colored
by myth, but the most popular theory dates to the Korean War when Black American GIs
stationed overseas shared the breaded, seasoned chicken preparation with their South Korean
counterparts.
Post-war, the dish became a popular bar food, and by the 70s, South Korea had its own fried
chicken chains, in advance of KFC's arrival in the 80s.
Today, with South Korean pop culture dominating American pop culture, the South Korean remix
of an American dish has become one of its signature culinary exports.
And with over 3,500 franchises, Yun's Chicken Chain presently has nearly as large a footprint
as Popeyes and more outlets than Chick-fil-A or churches.
As it scales up its presence in the U.S., the name may prove a hurdle to Americans,
who might understandably expect a smoked, sauced preparation as opposed to fried.
But its stylized acronym stands not
for barbecue, but for best of the best quality chicken. Which will have to be the truth,
not marketing bluster, to hit 50,000 stores by decade's end.
This week on Doughboyz the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weiger along with my co-host Danny Dorito, the spoon man Mike Mitchell.
That's not bad.
That was the Dorito kid, as you know, back in the day.
Mitch, maybe a reason this isn't bad.
I'm reading this from the roaster.
PFT said this on Freedom,
and I immediately thought of Mitch.
Wow! Thanks for the giggles.
At Gary Curls on Twitter.
So he just stole PFT's roast.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
You're a regular Dane Cook or a Carlos Mencia.
He's a Mencia of roast submitters.
Yeah.
No, I think that's fair.
At Gary Curls, you gave the credit.
So shout out to PFT.
Just found something out about PFT.
Never been to Olive Garden.
That's right.
There was such a gravity you said that with.
I know it's heavy stuff for our listeners to hear.
Do we get PFT back for Olive Garden trip?
I would be interested what his perspective would be.
Like what is the maiden voyage to Olive Garden in 2024?
I feel like people will be kind of like, I think people have come around on Olive Garden.
You know what? It's fine.
By the way, I'm getting texts from Cal Pax right now
we're not I'm not. Oh yeah you know you got to take care of those right now. And
he is a he is at Sally's a Pete's. Wow! In Connecticut. Oh we may get some
breaking chews throughout this episode. You just sent me pictures of the pies. Wow.
They look good. Well there you go. You know what I pictures of the pies. Wow. They look good. Well, there you go.
You know what?
I got Breaking Chews.
I have a heart monitor on.
That's right.
Oh.
That's a good deal.
I hacked it.
So if I push this button, a Postmates guy will come.
But I got a heart monitor on.
Heart monitor.
Hey, maybe a new topic for a Mitch roast. Roast at birdfuck.com. Lay into this guy for a heart monitor on. Heart monitor, hey, maybe a new topic for a Mitch roast.
Roast at birdfuck.com.
Lay into this guy for his heart monitor.
Isn't it fun watching what happens to us?
You're fucking sea monkeys.
We love our fans, guys.
We love our fans. We love our fans.
Couldn't do it without them.
No, we love you guys.
We love you guys.
We're having fun, we love you guys. We love you guys. We're having fun, we love you guys.
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Nothing to worry about with this heart monitor.
Yeah.
Everything's fine.
Yeah.
Everything's good.
Everything's good.
Wags, I got a drop to play first of all.
Okay, great.
I do have a little, I was back in,
I was back in Boston-
You sure were.
For a quick trip.
Yeah.
The indie movie I worked on, Fear mark Finney directed it shout out to market played
We did we did it we did some reshoots and then the next day we we did the premiere of it
but yes, the reshoots weren't in the movie Casey just
Casey's hat just
as a director hearing
The day before it was the actual premiere.
It's an ultra low budget movie, but it went over great.
It was a good trip, Wags.
Congratulations, you're the star of this movie.
How exciting.
Thank you, Wags.
It's very kind of you.
But I was back there and I visited my sister's school.
I won't say where it is,
but my sister is a principal of a school.
And I went there and I-
You're not saying it because of me?
Yeah, basically.
Come on, you can trust wise.
Well, I told you this story.
Yes.
But I went in and I went into a couple classrooms
and like the teachers were like, he's on TV.
And like, who's the most famous person you met? And I was like, Tom Brady. And then they went crazy for that. And I was like the teachers like, he's on TV. And like, who's the most famous person you met?
And I was like, Tom Brady.
And then they went crazy for that.
And I was like, Tom Cruise, which they also went crazy for.
Tom Cruise still has some power.
And I said, Chris Pratt.
And they were confused.
And I was like, Star-Lord?
And then they like got excited.
And then they were like, can we hug you?
And I was like, yeah, I guess so.
And all these children started to hug me.
It was very strange. And then one kid is like, I, yeah, I guess so. And all these children started to hug me. It was very strange.
And then one kid is like, I'm going to give you my Instagram.
This little boy was like, I'm going to give you my Instagram.
Like follow me and like, I want to like,
I want you to follow me.
So he came over, gave me a note.
And then a little girl did the same.
She gave me a note.
Yeah.
And I get home to my house in Quincy and I look
and it's like, oh, there's a little boy's Instagram.
I look at the other sheet.
It's the little girl's number. Yes. And I say, I's like, oh, there's a little boy's Instagram. I look at the other sheet, it's the little girl's number.
Yes.
And I said to my mom, I was like,
this little girl from my sister's school,
from, I'm not gonna say my sister's,
everyone knows my sister's name, Courtney's school,
I was like, gave me her number,
and my mom was like, well, you can't call it.
And I was like, yeah, no shit.
What the fuck are you talking about?
How old was this girl?
She was like a tween.
She's very young.
And then, of course, yeah, she's a child.
And then I texted my sister.
I was like, one of your students gave me her number.
And same reaction.
Well, you can't call.
I was like, I know.
What the hell is, what do you think?
You think I'm going gonna call this number?
That little girl was me.
That's how we met.
I'm on your side here,
because that's a pretty bananas leap to make,
to think that you might actually follow up on that.
That you need a warning.
They were thinking, I was like,
you think you're adults, whatever.
Right.
And then I told you the other day,
it's like, Sus's child was sending me funny videos,
and I kept sending them back.
And then Sus is like, Mitch keeps sending them back.
I'm like, what do you want me to ignore your daughter?
You're out of your mind.
What the fuck's going on here?
This is your reputation, not mine.
Anyway.
Pretty soon, people are going to think I'm a big fat idiot.
We're going to swap.
We're going to think like, hey, why you're so dumb as shit? People also think I'm a big fat idiot. We're gonna swap
People also you think you're a big fat idiot
Which is a creep and why you're stupid
What's going on?
anyway, I
Told you this story. Yeah, you very kindly came to I it was premiere week for me. That's right I I did the short, the indie movie in Boston,
and then there was two shorts I went to.
Ori Gundelman, we were at his premiere.
Lot of fun.
Yeah, Matt Mazzani the next day.
But it was very kind.
They were like, people's names came up on screen
and like actors' names and people were cheering.
And then my name came up and it was just Wager,
who was like, yeah!
Just one guy in the theater.
You did great though, you crushed.
Thank you, Wags.
It was very nice of you to be there.
I appreciate it very much.
Yeah, it was good.
You did eat, I mean, you did get a pizza.
You got to go to your premiere and you got a pizza.
I went to the premiere and I went and got a pizza.
I'm giving up cheese, so I want to Apollonia's which was great
Right, I which is on it's on a Miracle Mile. I don't know if you've had it but LA's got some good pizza
We got quarter sheets Apollonia see your pizza
Secret pizza was I tried at a table read for Casey's movie. Wow. That's great. Oh, that's right. Hey, I was there
Yeah, you guys were both there. Well Apoll only I went to and I ordered so they have round pizza and square pizza
Uh-huh, and I ordered a slice of square pizza and they gave me a full
I know that sounds like a fat guy excuse right like they gave me a full one, but I had two full pizzas
Yeah, and I called up the bat phone, which is sus, and I was like, I got too full.
He's like, bring it up.
So I brought it up there.
And I gave one slice on the street
to a man who was saying he was hungry,
and I gave him a slice of pizza,
which also sounds like a fat guy excuse,
like I ate another slice.
But Sus and I, we did some damage too.
It was very good.
Apollonia's Wags on Miracle Mile, if you wanna try it.
It was Sus or with a hat and a sign. Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
And running like hell back to his house.
And then he ran back to his house.
Ha ha ha.
Anyways, in eventful week, I'm back.
You're back.
I got a heart monitor.
I'm back.
You're doing great.
You're thriving.
I push it if something happens, like if my heart flutters, or maybe if I get really annoyed,
I push it, so I should just have it on the trigger
for the rest of the episode.
Dealing with you.
We're gonna have fun.
You get a drop to play.
Emma, hit him with a drop.
Like I like when someone isolates a little bit of dialogue
and like turned it into a turned it into a rhythm.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
That's great.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
I actually did a concert in Boston.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
Where my career started right.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
Boston, Boston.
Dane Cook a Boston guy.
Did the Boston bombings. Well crafted drop. Okay, Boston. Dane Cook, the Boston guy. Yeah. He did the Boston bombings.
Well-crafted drop.
Okay, a little meta there.
Yeah, wow.
This is so weird that we also brought up Dane Cook.
Isn't that cool?
Isn't that wild when that happens?
It always happens with the, that's Doe Synergy.
Here she goes.
Our guest asked, we haven't introduced our guest yet.
Jimmy just hopped up on the couch next to Mitch.
But our guest asked, I hope Jimmy sits with me.
And I said, it depends on what studio we're in.
I looked in here, I said, nope, not going to happen.
Sadly, I know it's a great spot to be.
You got extra room on your chair today.
Here's a drop from Emerson in Provincetown, Mass.
Hey, Provincetown, great spot.
If you listen closely to it, you will
hear a shocking confession made by Dane Cook.
I didn't hear what it was.
Did anyone pick that up?
Dane Cook, a Boston guy, I believe.
I think that's the confession.
I'm not actually a Boston guy.
That's a fraud.
Did you, wait, from Emerson as the person, as the individual?
Yes.
Not the college?
Yes.
Got it.
Okay, got it.
What a distinguished name, dignified name. What am I looking. Okay. Got it. What a what a
distinguished name, dignified name. What am I looking for? Emerson. Emerson. Yeah, it's a distinguished name. Yeah. Yeah.
Promise. You never been to the Cape. That's where I want to I do want to try to take you to the Cape.
I'll go I'm down for a Cape trip. Hey speaking of East Coast swings drops at birdfuck.com, but our guest is going to be
heading over there for a little bit. You're giving some recs. We'll get into it.
Returning to the show, first time in the main feed, actor, writer, comedian, and founder
of Viva La Boba, Tonsu Phillips here.
Hi, Tonsu.
Hi, guys.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks so much for being here.
Of course.
No, are you joking?
We can't talk about it too much or I'm going to get emotional about how you can achieve
anything you dream in life.
And once upon a time, I imagined I would be on this show and I'm here today. Oh my God. And miracles happen. So thank you, in life. And once upon a time, I imagined I would be on the show.
And I'm here today.
Oh my God.
And miracles happen.
So thank you.
I gotta tell you, you gotta aim higher.
Yeah.
With this and then the Academy Awards.
So we had you on previously, it's great to have you back.
We had you previously behind the paywall
on our Patreon feed, the Doughboys Double,
to talk about Boba because yes, you have a boba shop.
Tell us about your boba shop.
My boba shop, Viva La Boba.
My boyfriend and I started it in 2019,
right before the pandemic.
We started it because there were no boba shops
in San Bernardino, which is where we were at the time
when we started dating.
So we found a need in the community, opened one,
and now we're opening our second location in Redlands.
Thank you so much.
I can't believe it. What a great story to come out of. We opened it right before the pandemic, and then we're opening our second location in Redlands. Wow. Thank you so much.
I can't believe it.
What a great story to come out of.
We opened it right before the pandemic and then we're opening a new shop.
That's fantastic.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's because horrifying time to open up.
Absolutely.
And it was so intense and like someone who had no business background, it was very much
like, well, what do we do?
And just figure it out as you go.
But now I'm on the new voice.
So yeah, it worked out for me.
Well, you must have a passion for boba though.
Okay, yes.
For branding purposes, of course I love boba.
And I know a lot about boba.
Are you a fool?
No, it's more one of those things.
We can walk it back.
Yeah, we're gonna edit that, right?
I love boba.
No, I really do obviously love boba,
but it's very much one of those things,
like once you do it or have access to it all the time,
you're just kinda like, I don't think I care anymore.
Yeah, I kinda like, we have a similar sort of thing
with the podcast, I think.
Yeah.
Do you do it enough?
Hey, we get to eat Taco Bell all the time,
and then, you know, suddenly you have a heart monitor.
Exactly, yeah.
Yeah.
So it's kinda, no,, obviously I love boba.
Of course, yeah, but you're immersed in it,
it's your world, it's your job.
Correct, so and I just, I don't find myself drinking it
as often as I do, but when I do I make it count
and I know what I'm talking about.
Yes, sure.
Should we do a segment or anything?
Yeah, I'm still legitimate.
Yeah, oh, you'll kick my ass in any sort of boba quiz.
I don't know, outside of FET, I'm not too,
I don't know too many bobas.
Yes, if it's the son of Django, you might have a shot.
Yeah, I guess I know Django as well.
I don't know if you remember, I've never seen Star Wars.
Oh, great.
But you knew that the nerdy shit we were talking about was Star Wars.
Yeah, you had that look in your eye and I'm like, there they go.
Is Star Wars even nerdy anymore, quote unquote?
No, I don't think so.
I think it's just, nerd culture just became pop culture.
Yeah.
That's what we witnessed over the past 20 years.
I do want to ask a little bit more about boba because one thing that's happened
in the intervening years since you opened the shop, it's gone, I feel like,
fully mainstream to the point where Jack in the Box has a boba drink.
Yeah, and Del Taco.
And Del Taco, yes. I thought it kind of like the Box has a boba drink. Yeah, and Del Taco. And Del Taco, yes.
I thought it kind of like the bastardization of boba, if you will.
But also, I can appreciate them helping me out in terms of letting more people know
boba exists.
Sure.
It's hitting an audience that maybe I wouldn't usually get.
And then my reasoning is they'll try it and be like, that's not great.
Maybe there's better boba in the area.
And boom.
That's great.
So like you're seeing like Jack from Jack in the Box
coming into your, into the-
Absolutely.
Okay, that's cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly, that's how I envisioned it, yeah.
We came up in the comedy world with Jack.
Yeah, we did, yeah.
Oh my God. Good friend of ours.
I'm glad it worked out for him.
Yeah, he's doing great.
He's thriving.
Well, okay, one more bubble question I had,
and I don't wanna just keep the conversation
entirely front-loaded on this,
but I think people, there are still,
because again, Del Taco, Jack in the Box,
big chains are just starting to do this.
Maybe we'll see Starbucks have a boba at a certain point,
but I do think there are a lot of people in America,
maybe across the world,
who like this is still something they haven't experienced,
or maybe they're aware of,
but like, how would you,
do you have any advice you give to a boba noob,
some of which might, some of them must come into your shop?
Yeah, all the time.
I will say like the best seller classic drink
I always tell someone who's never had boba
is get a Thai tea.
Thai tea, sure.
I think it's like the least intense drink.
It's very creamy.
It's you, you know, it's like beginner friendly,
I would say.
And for those of you who don't know,
like boba itself is just like these small little
chewy tapioca balls.
Fairly inoffensive, you know?
If you have a problem with textures,
I can see how you wouldn't love boba.
But it's like, you can add that to anything.
If you feel weird about getting a milk tea,
just get like a generic strawberry banana smoothie
and add boba to it.
You can ease your way into liking boba.
That's how I pitch it.
I always do like a sweetened tea or like a flavored tea
with some strawberry bursting boba.
Yeah, popping boba.
Popping boba, that's yeah, popping boba, sorry.
No, no, bursting is also okay.
Okay, all right.
God, how dare you?
Jesus, this guy doesn't know anything.
They pop in your mouth, Wags, it's fun as hell.
And then you have a little flavor burst.
There's times when I want that sensation
and times when I don't, but I do appreciate it.
But I usually go with just like a milk tea.
I'll do like a-
Yeah, very classic.
Yeah, or sometimes like a jasmine milk tea
or something like that.
But I feel like I'm doing an Assam milk tea a lot.
And yeah, I just, boba, I'm pretty basic
when it comes to boba.
Like if they got like a brown sugar, a honey boba, I'll do that, but default is usually fine for me. Yeah, I think like I'm pretty basic when it comes to Boba like they got like a brown sugar a honey
Boba, I'll do that but default is usually fine for me. Yeah, I think that's the way to do it out of curiosity
Do you guys have it like with a meal or are you doing it as a dessert or like?
I feel like I do it as a snack tree
Yeah, there's some people who probably are also wearing heart monitors at this point
We're drinking it with every meal. And I don't know that that's how it's meant to be enjoyed.
It almost ruins it.
I was doing a, and I had to cut back
because I was doing it as I got really into it
and I replaced my afternoon coffee with a boba.
And I did that for a while.
And then I did that for like two months
and I was just like, this has gotta be like a once a week
or twice a week thing. I can't do it with that. You're a hot Bev man. You said a lot of Bev. Yeah
Yeah, you're like Al Pacino hot Bev his wife Beverly D'Angelo. Oh his wife is Beverly D'Angelo
Yeah, what you didn't get that way to see there immediately
Check out that scene in vacation in the shower
She's your wife sir
Some guy maybe he's in a hot wifey. I don't know you might be in a hot wifey. Yeah, he might be he might be
We don't know they still married. I think they are Wow
Yeah, I think he's I think he's I think he's still married. Yeah. Well, actually, I don't know.
You might have to Snopes that out.
Snopes?
I forgot about Snopes.
Wow.
Deep cut.
I check out Snopes.
Anything comes out of Biden's mouth that goes into Snopes.
That's hilarious.
Smart.
You know what Al Pacino says about his wife,
Beverly D'Angelo?
What's that?
She's got a great ass.
Oh my God.
People who don't know that reference just are like, what?
People know the reference.
What is it from?
Heat.
Heat, right?
Yeah.
Isn't it, she got a great big ass.
Might be big ass.
Yeah, great big ass.
Whatever, you got what I was doing.
Yeah, we got it.
What Al was doing, not you.
What Al was doing, I'm quoting Al.
Maybe he doesn't know his own movies.
Some people don't wanna re-watch their own stuff,
I get it.
I had a little crush on Beverly D'Angelo,
I'll admit it, back in the day.
Oh my God, are you kidding me?
Do you guys feel that way with your podcasts?
Do fans ever tell you, like,
do you remember when you said this, that,
or the other thing?
Yeah.
And you're like, I don't know.
For sure, so much of it exits my brain immediately.
We're so far ahead.
I got lunch, I got the restaurant
we're talking about today yesterday
with a good friend of ours, Wags.
Our buddy Edwin.
Edwin Stevens.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so we went out
and he brought something up and I was like,
did we say that on the podcast?
Yeah, and he was like, yeah,
and then he brought up something else and I was like, I have no that on the podcast? Yeah, and he was like, yeah. And then he brought up something else and I was like,
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
We're also, we now are recording,
you like to keep K-Fabe, but we're way ahead on that.
We're going in the Frank Bank
because of scheduling reasons.
We're normally pretty weak of or close to release,
but a lot of these are going in the Frank Bank.
They're being recorded.
This episode releases in 2028.
Awesome.
I will still look like this in 2028.
Yeah, but to answer your question, yes.
You know what, in 2028, there'll be a singular heart monitor
where Mitch won't sad.
Oh, that's sad.
It's like Tiny Tim.
Unless you change your ways, Wags. or Mitch wants sad. Oh, that's sad. It's like Tiny Tim.
Unless you change your ways, Wags.
Unless I change my ways?
That's up to me?
Yeah, yeah.
What do I got to do?
Oh, you got to help me lose weight.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, there is truly nothing wrong.
I don't want to scare people.
Yeah.
But it's normal to have heart monitor.
Yeah.
But I am, I'm about to give up cheese and diet all sodas. I'm just going to drink water and tea. This is here but this is like literally
it is like my last week.
You're on the cusp of where you're going when you're going to start this new practice,
which is good. I think it's good to get away from that.
The alcohol might be the hardest just for going out reasons,
but I don't go out that often.
But when you go out, you tend to go pretty hard.
I want a couple drinks.
Who doesn't want to have a couple drinks?
Yeah, I go at it, you know what I mean?
And then that leads to eating like shit.
I get it.
I'm a stoner and I've gained so much weight
from smoking weed.
And it's very obvious that's the cause of it,
but I also don't wanna stop. Yeah.
Was your, how do you intake?
Just funny to hear a laugh from Emma.
I know, I know.
I know, I know.
How do you intake, what is your preferred method
for getting high?
Thank you for asking.
What isn't?
Honestly, I love, my favorite way is a joint
shared among friends. Oh, that's fun. Because something about smoking alone, I try to make it be like, no favorite way is like a joint, shared among friends.
Oh, that's fun.
Something about smoking alone,
I try to make it be like, no, this is normal and it's cool,
but it can feel very lonely and kind of loser.
Yeah, sure, sure.
A joint among friends, but I love a bong.
I don't fuck with edibles as much
because I don't dose it correctly
and I usually get too high.
Yeah.
Or I get that couch lock.
Neither of you are big smokers though, huh?
No, I'm not, but I've been trying to get more into it because I'm just it's like a much healthier
Substitute for when I use alcohol to decompress. Yeah. Yeah, it's not gonna take come on
You think I'm not gonna be into you're gonna work on the other side of the rainbow at this point my man
What does that mean? You're closer to death than you are to birth
There are all sorts of older people who get into marijuana at advanced ages.
It's not going to happen with you.
I think it could happen to me. Why can't it happen?
I mean, maybe this is going to help you get into it because you're going to try to do it despite me.
That is what I'm going to do.
Yeah, I know.
It's an act of defying you. I'm 100% going to do it.
Trust me.
We can hide at night.
You to be...
Tatsu brought me a joint.
I brought a joint.
I know.
That has a pasta filter. So, you know, it's very Doughboy's adjacent.
Maybe I'll start smoking too.
Pasta filter?
You're gonna love that.
I gave up cheese and Diet Coke.
I smoke a lot a week now.
I hope that's okay.
No, I did, I smoked a lot at one point.
Really?
Oh yeah.
You strike me as someone, well.
Oh, you strike me as someone, well.
Oh you strike you as a square, eh? No, no, no, more as someone who, huh.
As an alcoholic?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
like, no, as in like, would like maybe get,
bring me the person who gets too high
and you have to talk him down.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, cause you get anxious.
Yeah, yeah, it's not an insult.
It's more like, oh, if you get high,
it's like, it's gonna be a thing.
That has been me in the past.
I have gotten too high and that's partly why I'm a little skittish you get high, it's like, it's gonna be a thing. That has been me in the past. I have gotten too high,
and that's partly why I'm a little skittish about it.
Like I just, like it's super duper anxious.
That did happen to me once.
I remember at Ramadi's New Hampshire house,
and we had like weed brownies,
and like, it was like just biting into a nugget of weed.
Basically it was horrible.
And then I got like so crazy high,
and I was like, I'm like, I was like.
Like uncomfortable.
Oh, I was like, I was like in a corner being like,
help me to Ramadi.
It was like bad.
But I also smoked a bunch of weed and would get,
like I smoked for a while.
I really did not know that.
Oh yeah, for like 10 years I smoked weed
from when I was like 15, 14, 15,
till I was 25, 26 around there.
And then I stopped.
Yeah, I definitely smoked more when I was young.
I was like, some in high school and then in college,
I was smoking with some regularity,
but always more of a booze guy,
more of a big bloated booze bag.
But alcohol is so bad for me,
and the issue I have with alcohol is,
when I'm not drinking, I feel so much better.
I sleep so much better.
Every part of my life is improved,
but I still feel like I have some sort of drive
to have a substance to help me decompress,
you know what I mean?
And that's the thing that that's where weed becomes
like a very helpful substitute.
But I just like, I've still yet to find the balance
of like what accomplishes exact same thing.
I have been messing around with,
this is the thing Casey you told me about,
but like the seltzers,
which I guess is a relatively new thing. It's like, around with, this is the thing Casey you told me about, but like the seltzers,
which I guess is a relatively new thing.
It's like, and so,
cause the issue I have with edible.
It's so insane.
Just, I mean, we're old too, of course, but like.
You guys are old.
Well, just.
I'm old as shit.
Just like, what do they call what weed used to be like?
Is it chafe or whatever?
Like a.
Shake. Shake.
Shake. Thank you.
It's just like literally what shook out of the nugs.
It's the cheap stuff.
Yeah. Like nugs were like's the cheap stuff. Yeah.
Nugs were like a thing when I went to Ithaca
and or like a couple times in Quincy where I was like,
oh my god, that's like a nugget of weed.
You know what I mean?
Like it was like a bag of oregano is what we used to smoke.
Well, yeah.
That's like so much what weed was.
Also just how illicit it used to be.
Yes.
Just like a kid being like, I got a joint, like holy shit.
You know, like it being a thing versus like how obviously how commonly available
at least.
Yeah.
My mom and dad found me with a bag of weed like I had in my house when I was a
teenager, they would fucking kill me.
You know what I mean?
Like, and then an Ithaca like, Oh wow, look at these like nice nuggets.
And then just every like now it's seltzers or whatever, but I smoked like
my junior year of college, I smoked every day.
Like from a bong?
Uh, from whatever.
I mean, like from bongs and from pipes and
everything like that.
Wow, I really did not know that.
Every single, like truly every single, almost
every, almost every single, I mean, if it was
available, I would just smoke weed.
But it became a thing for me where I would get
foggy, we've talked about mental fog.
Yes, right.
So I'd be like very, I'd be like mental foggy or
I w and then like when I stopped and I would smoke,
I would get anxious, which was like later on,
of like when I wasn't smoking
and then I'd smoke and get anxious.
So it was like, it just became that thing
where I was just like, eh, neither of these are good options.
So I kind of just stopped doing it.
We were getting high in college
and it was one of those things where like,
it was just a campus security guard just kind of walked by.
And my friend who was like, gotten pretty high,
saw this guy and just took off running.
He's like, had like panic.
Ha ha ha!
And then he was just like gone for half the night
and he comes back and we're like, hey, what happened?
And he said, I saw that campus security guard.
I freaked out, I took off running
and then I climbed a tree and I hid in it for four hours.
Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha in it for four hours. Good for him.
I like that guy.
I guess that's what I thought your reaction to weed would be.
No, what the fuck?
But now I know.
You're more of a stoner than I thought.
I was a stoner for a while.
I mean, like, every single day is maybe, I mean,
whenever weed was available.
Oh, I guess it was probably more my sophomore year.
Yes. My buddy Dank. I don't know what you said, yes. I don't know. Dank and Poof, one of the poos was available, oh, I guess it was probably more my sophomore year.
Yes.
My buddy Dank.
I don't know what you said, yes, I don't know.
Dank and Poov, one of the poos.
Yeah, your buddy Dank, yeah.
Your buddy Dank smoked weed.
And Oyds.
No way.
Oyds, Poov, and Dank, those are the people
that we smoked weed.
We have our friend and past guest Stoney Sharp,
but I've told people, I told my brother before,
I was like, oh yeah, my friend,
we're gonna sing with my friend Stoney.
And everybody's like, oh, your friend Stoney, alright.
What's your name?
And Stoney's like a very likeable,
hello, how you doing?
That's just his name.
Yeah, I have a family, I'm a nice, funny man,
and he's not crazy, yeah.
Hello, my name is Dank, I am a lawyer.
Dank's doing great.
Dank's doing great, I'm sure.
We used to, you know, you use the paper towel roll
and you put all the sploof.
The sploof.
The sploof.
I don't know this terminology.
All those tricks.
You put the dryer sheets and then you breathe through it.
I never did the sploof.
We definitely all gave ourselves cancer breathing that
close to dryer sheets.
Possibility. Worth it. That ourselves cancer breathing that close to dryer sheets. 100%. Possibility.
Worth it.
That's cancer's gonna smell great.
Now they make these things called smoke buddies
that you blow into and it like just eats the smoke.
Nothing comes out the other side.
Wow.
It's really cool.
And people take that to Disneyland to like smoke people.
Not me.
Take it to Disneyland so you can smoke in the bathroom
and no one knows.
So wild.
Wow. Hotel rooms.
What a world.
Church.
Church.
And also, there's also, I mean, like, what's it called?
We're old.
I just feel old talking about this stuff.
Yeah, describe it.
Vapes.
You just vape.
We were talking about this in the, I think it's the pot palace.
Emma's pot place.
Pot place, yeah, yeah.
On the dose cord.
Yeah, how like, vapes now, they're so concentrated.
And you might find that you've talked about this
with the weed getting stronger in general.
The vapes are so concentrated that it's great for convenience
but it gets you too high and then your tolerance is shot.
And you can smoke a ton of joints after that
and not feel a thing because you took one hit from your vape.
Oh, Jesus, that sounds like a nightmare to me.
It's like uncomfortable high.
Like I hit my vape during the IMAX showing of Dune 2.
Hell yeah.
Dune 2.
And that was scary.
I was really scared.
And I'm brave.
Yeah.
It's OK, though, because with the length of the movie,
you probably evened out like for an hour.
It's an epic.
Wait, what?
Still the best movie you've ever seen, Casey?
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty great.
What about me?
That's a bit, right?
It's not actually.
No, you love it.
What a feat of cinema, I'd say.
I love it.
What did you think of Dune Part II?
I liked it more than the first one.
Okay. Yeah.
Also, I could go, like, that's not that gripping.
I'm sorry.
You never apologize. Have you seen the High School Musical trilogy?
That's what we're talking about.
We're talking cinema.
I tried to give you a five and I failed.
I'm sorry.
I am like the guy who climbed the tree.
I'm like the nerd who climbed the tree.
You just didn't give enough time.
Like you half committed to the handshake
and then you backed off. I didn't see you, I'm sorry.
Shake, right, is what it's called?
Yes, shake.
That was like my level of weed and it was like,
oh, you get like a little high.
Yes.
No, a vape would send you into outer space again.
Yeah, I don't like that.
For sure.
I don't need to be in outer space, come on.
No, it's uncomfortable, especially when watching Dune.
Is it Dune or Dune?
I think it's just Dune.
Thank you, Dune too.
Dune?
Dune?
You can lean on the U if you want.
Thank you.
Dune?
I thought what part of Iraq is your voice.
Dune.
Dune too.
Oh God.
What did you guys think of it?
Sorry, I'm curious.
I loved it.
I'm closer to KC.
I think Mitch is like even more skeptical of it than you are.
Yeah, I say it's like, okay.
It's okay.
Yeah, at the end you were like, okay.
I had a great time.
I loved it.
I saw it twice in the theaters.
I would compare it to like my equivalent of a movie that's interesting to me, at the end you were like, okay. Emma loved it. I had a great time, I loved it.
I saw it twice in the theaters.
I would compare it to my equivalent of a movie
that's interesting and as long as Avatar.
Sure, yeah.
Which I thought was way better.
Can we agree on that?
Hell yes we can. I love Avatar.
I love Avatar, I love Avatar, Way of Water.
These are great movies.
I think I might like the Deneville Newb Dunaverse
a little bit more than the James Cameron avatar verse
But I like I like all of it. I'm a big fan of all of it. Okay, take me these other
I love way of water. Yeah credible movie
Arrakis beats earth
It is funny to think of Biden riding a sand worm.
Yeah.
He would fall in two seconds.
Dueling three drug slaves on Giddy Prime.
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about,
but I like it.
I like it.
Come here.
I beat Corn Pop. I can beat you.
We got onto this weed run though,
because we're talking about in terms of like,
how it affects your eating.
So what happens, like you get high
and then you just like snack a ton?
Like, what do you like to eat?
Yeah, oh God, I love, I'm a fucking fat ass guys
and I own it.
And I love to eat, I love to gorge.
Last night I had, I recognize this is a problematic
behavior and like I should talk to my therapist
about maybe leaning on overeating as a crutch.
But in the meantime I'm really enjoying it.
It's one of those things.
You and me both.
Yeah, no it's a real thing.
That's like my primary care doctor was like,
you need to go to a therapist and talk about food right now.
Like he was like kind of like, yeah.
Yeah, I think it is, yeah.
And I think it's okay, we should talk about that more.
It's like okay to have a, not, it's not, you know,
I think it's more common than people let on
to have that kind of emotional dependence on food.
Yeah, sure, sure. But I have that.
But let's talk about the fun parts of having that.
So last night I got really high
and there's a new thing I'm doing
where you get Grillo's pickles, my favorite pickles.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then you can have like a few sips of the juice and then you eat some hot Cheetos.
And the way it like melts in your mouth is, I almost brought some for you guys today,
but I thought you'd be like, what the fuck?
So I didn't.
We would never say what the fuck to any sort of eating experiment.
I should have done that.
But it's great.
So I recommend trying something like that.
I love eating like weird combos like that.
I love Oreos.
I love s'mores, pop tarts.
I love hunks of cheese.
I will eat, you've maybe you've been here where you just, you don't even
toast the bread and then you don't even butter it.
You just start eating.
Bread.
Raw bread, like slices of bread.
Also, by the way, he's been there too.
Yeah, I'm not, I know.
I meant, I meant, yeah, I'm saying this guy's a fat ass.
Don't forget.
No, we all are. That's why I'm happy to be here in Good Company.
For what it's worth, you guys look great.
Oh, God bless you.
Don't be insulted by anything I say. I think you're such a cutie, Mitch.
Dear God, come on now, you're gonna make me blush up on the damn thing.
I'm being 100%. I'm being 100%. You're such a cutie.
Oh, stop doing that.
Okay, okay.
I'm done.
Mitch, I think you're such a cutie.
You're such a cutie.
Seriously, both of you.
All right, I feel better.
Even if we are.
Both of you are.
Yeah, I'm sick and tired of it.
Even if we're cold.
Yeah.
And yeah, I don't know.
Honestly, I don't think we're living in a skinny person's world anymore.
Sure.
I think all the curvy people, it's like our time and we're shining.
I love that.
You know what? I'm trying to be healthier. Suss and I walked here today, why? time and we're shining. I love that. You know what?
I'm trying to be healthier.
Suss and I walked here today, why?
Because that's the truth.
That's right.
To eat BBQ chicken.
That's okay.
BBQ.Q chicken.
But it's a good, it's a proactive thing you can do.
Like I've been going on walks every morning.
I love going on walks.
It's more for my brain than for my body.
Did you get 10,000 in already today?
No, I didn't get in.
But I did, what I did do is I went on my little
one mile long walk around the neighborhood
with my morning coffee, but I did hop on my
stationary bike at home.
So I got on a little bike ride
because I knew we were going to eat super duper heavy.
So yeah, you try to fit in little things like that
to be mindful of your health when you have
the gorge like we do for content.
And it's, sorry, go ahead.
No, no, no, but what you brought up was really interesting, because it's like,
you know what, I have talked to my therapist before
about my relationship to food
and how I do use it as an emotional crunch
in the same way that I do alcohol,
which we talked about already.
And it's just like, yeah, it's,
I think no one should be ashamed of what they eat,
but I think we could be mindful of our relationship to food.
That's a good point, yeah.
And I think, yeah, I wish someone would have told me that growing up instead of just being like,
oh, she'll naturally eat healthy because it turns out I won't.
And I'm getting, I'm turning 29 soon and I feel like I'm having, like, I'm about to hit 30.
And I feel like I'm behind all my friends who have taken the initiative to eat better or eat
vegetables and fruit.
And I just kind of never started doing that.
So I feel like I ought to start.
Sure.
I mean, I think you can, here's the thing.
I think it's also like,
I was talking about this the other day,
Micah sent the Taco Bell times cheese it collaboration,
which is there's gonna be.
And I'm like, there is no world,
it brings me joy to go and eat that giant cheese it.
Yeah, I'm gonna eat that. I'm gonna fucking eat brings me joy to go and eat that giant cheese.
Yeah, I'm going to eat that. I'm not going to eat that.
You think, yeah, I can't, I can't, I, you, and it's just that sort of thing of you can enjoy that.
And then like you're saying also eat your fruit and vegetables and get hikes in and stuff like that.
Or go dancing.
Or go dancing.
It's a fun one.
Is that what, is, is, is, is you're dancing it?
Like, uh, shout out to my coach, Karl Tartt.
He'll DJ at the club in Texas all and invite us
and our whole team will go and we'll just dance.
Wow.
And I'll put it on my Apple watch.
Who Carl's not texting for that?
These guys here.
I'll invite you guys when he invites me.
But it's fun, low-stakes stuff.
I'm not people who run, that pisses me off.
I'm not a runner.
Yeah, that kinda pisses me off too.
I hate it.
When I see someone running, I'm like fucking, you know,
it's just like, cut the shit, you sane bolt. Exactly. You fucking bullshit. Just walk. And it's like not good for your knees. I don't know. I'm not a high impact kind of workout person. I used to run, but I don't really do it anymore. I'll get out there on occasion. But I do have the feeling when I'm on my walk and I see someone running and I'm kinda like, think you're better than me? Fuck this guy, yeah.
Fuckin' walk.
Yeah, I feel that way.
Get exercise too.
Do fuckin' walk, slow down a little bit.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
So yeah, all to say I love to snack.
Yeah, I like this, this is a big thing.
I'm more team meals than team snack.
Me too.
But when you talk about a snack like that.
I mean, I like, I love snacks.
I love snacks.
Don't get me wrong.
I love snack, I'm snacking all the time.
But I'm just like, I love snacks. Don't get me wrong. I love snacks. I love snack. I'm snacking all the time, but I'm just like,
I feel like my day is anchored by like a few,
like larger meals.
Yes.
My issue isn't snacking.
Right.
It's the giant meals and eating late.
I see.
Yeah.
But you know, technically having those meals
is supposedly, from my understanding,
better than just snacking throughout
and not really getting any real nutrition,
which is what I'm doing.
At least you're forcing yourself
at least two or three times a day to have
a meal.
It's funny because some of the most in shape people I've ever seen graze all day. They
just slowly eat.
That's the thing. I feel it working for me.
It's working great.
Yeah. The nutrition science on these things keeps shifting so rapidly that I feel like
even just a few years ago I was hearing, yeah no you should be trying to eat five or six like small
meals a day I was like alright I could try to do that I don't think anyone knows
fucking anything is the thing that's true that's just making it up. There's like a subreddit one meal a day, have you heard of that?
Oh mad that seems like a scam. That's do one meal a day? Where you only eat one meal a day. Yeah. Did you see Kevin James was talking about how he
fasted and my friend back in Quincy Dan Tufo he's he's a faster he likes to
fast yeah and Kevin James that he said he fasted for like 40 or 50 days did you And my friend back in Quincy, Dan Tufo, he's a faster. He likes to fast. Yeah.
And Kevin James said he fasted for like 40 or 50 days.
Did you see this?
That's insane.
He's like, I fasted for 40 or 50 days.
He's like, it's just water, some salt in the water.
And he said he lost.
It seems like you would just die.
You don't eat for 40 or 50 days?
Yeah, is that also just a lie?
I mean, probably.
I think that was a lie.
It was a lie.
It probably just is a lie.
Yeah. It could be just a lie. Also not, probably. I think that was a lie. It was a lie. It probably just is a lie. It could be just a lie.
Also not how I want to lose weight.
No, no.
There have been options presented to me like that
where you could lose weight quickly.
And it's like, that's not,
I would rather just drink the pickle juice.
Yeah.
I get so lightheaded when I don't have food.
It's just like, it's any sort of thing
that involves fasting.
I've done some intermittent fasting to some success,
but anything that involves like a long stretch
without food, I was like, I can't do this.
This is not gonna work for me.
I'm not gonna be able to function.
You barely function as it is.
Yeah, and also like any of the big guys
who do like Kevin James ate like potatoes.
Remember he only ate potatoes and like only drank milk?
He did like a bunch of different diets.
Oh, I didn't know about this.
And then like has had heart attacks.
So I don't know if it's.
Is this Kevin James or is this Kevin Smith?
Smith, sorry, Kevin Smith, yeah, yeah.
But was that, was the other story about Kevin James?
The other story was about Kevin James.
Okay.
Yeah, both Kevins are dieting in their own weird ways.
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That's right. We're talking fried chicken and we're talking specifically about BBQ chicken. Now,
this is going to confuse people who haven't had this chain because it's BBQ chicken.
Some could argue it is confusing in itself.
It's inherently confusing.
Suss was not happy.
You hear BBQ chicken and you think barbecue chicken
because that's what we say here.
That's what BBQ stands for, but it's not,
it's a Korean chain and the BBQ stands for
best of the best quality.
So it's an acronym.
It's not a shortening of, boy, this is a question for Stinky
because BBQ is not an acronym for barbecue.
It's a shortening of it, right?
Like, so what do you call that?
I think you've got to let people know who Stinky is.
Yeah, so, okay, so Stinky is a question
for Stinky seems weird.
Sorry, Stinky is our, is a linguist,
a resident linguist in our Discord server, the DoeScore. Oh, wow. Yeah. So Stinky, you might've chopped it up with Stinky seems weird. Sorry, Stinky is a linguist, a resident linguist in our Discord server, the DOSCORD.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so Stinky, you might've chopped it up
with Stinky on a cage in there.
I'm sure, that's really cool.
Yeah, but Stinky has had some,
offered a lot of insight into language,
and this is one of those things where I'm like,
because barbecue, it's not like,
if it was an acronym, it would be like BBC or something,
right? Oh, I see what you're saying.
But there's no Q in there.
It's like the Q sounds like a part of the word, so, I see what you're saying. There's no Q in there.
It's like the Q sounds like a part of the word.
So I don't know what the name for that kind of shortening is.
This is a question for Stinky just sounds like something you'd say before like going to the bathroom,
like a cutesy thing you'd say.
This is a question for Stinky.
But this is a man who is a linguist.
This is a man who is a linguist.
It's his field of expertise.
And he's on the dough scored.
That's right.
What the hell are you doing, Stinky?
What are you doing?
What are you doing, Stinky?
Don't go on the dough.
Stinky, get out of there.
Get the fuck out of there.
We love you, Stinky.
We do love you, Stinky.
So it's not barbecue chicken, it is fried.
And BBQ stands for best of the best quality.
The parent company is Genesis BBQ,
which was founded in 1995 by Chairman Yun Hong-kyun
and currently has 3,500 franchises worldwide, which makes it about the same size as Popeye's.
Wild.
You blew my mind with this fact.
And will be in 31 states in the US by the end of 2024.
Here's my thing.
Didn't you feel, when I hear BBQ chicken, I thought that it was BBQ chicken.
I think of BBQ chicken.
And I was like, I don't want it.
I like barbecue chicken, but it's also a very specific thing.
And if it was like, if I knew it was fried chicken,
I would want it more, unfortunately.
I feel like it doesn't help.
BBQ chicken makes me think of Shaq
because he says barbecue chicken.
Oh yeah.
So I'm just like, I have that in my head.
That works in their favor.
It does, yeah, for sure.
What does he say when he's watching replays of clips?
This is a question for Stinky.
Like barbecue chicken, what does he say?
He says like some sort of like a...
I don't know what specifically you mean.
He says barbecue chicken, he has a segment
shacked in a fool for bloopers, but I don't know what specifically you mean. He says barbecue chicken. He has a segment shacked in a fool for bloopers,
but I don't know what you're trying to pull.
The show might come off, the show might end.
Oh boy, dark days for the NBA.
Inside the NBA, best show on television might be.
Charles Barkley is the funniest man in the world.
He's the funniest man in the world.
It's humbling.
I think he's the funniest person.
It's humbling because he is an NBA hall of famer.
That could just be your life.
That could be like, hey, that's the only thing I accomplished.
I was a basketball Hall of Famer.
That's, you know, I was an elite athlete.
But he's also just like funnier than the funniest comedian.
He's like the funniest man on Earth.
Yeah.
I love that though. We love the multi-hyphenates.
I love it. I'm a huge Charles Barkley fan.
I met him once. And you know what?
He was funny as shit. He was so funny.
Did he make fun of you?
No, he didn't make fun of me, made fun of no. No, he liked me
This trick question. Do you guys feel like you have to be funny when you meet your fans?
When we meet our fans. Yeah, are you ever like, oh fuck they expect me to be like, you know with the zingers
I don't I don't I don't feel that pressure necessarily
Well, I feel like we set a good precedent with the podcast not being funny.
So I feel like when we meet them,
I don't think that they feel like we have to be funny at all.
Yeah.
Well played.
Yeah, sometimes I'll do a shut the fuck up.
That'll be fun.
Yeah, you'll watch one of those.
And you'll hold for a reaction.
And they're eating it up.
It's usually in the back alley of a theater after, like an hour after the show
and some people have still stuck around
and we talk to them for a few minutes
and everyone leaves disappointed basically
is how it goes down, right?
No, I went to your guys live show and I had a lot of fun
in downtown LA, I forget the name.
Oh yes, our Halloween, the Halloween show.
Yes, you were the Wendy,
someone was Wendy.
We were the Wendy's girls, which doesn't exist.
We were both Wendy.
We were both Wendy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so we ended up being like Wendy's twins.
That was a lot of fun.
That was super fun.
But no, all to say the reaction was very positive.
Oh, that's kind of understand.
Everyone was happy to be there.
And like I took like group photos of people outside.
There was a lot of, there was a big dose cord.
There was a hearse that was there.
You still wear the Wendy's costume, right?
Well, I sleep in it.
We have a good, we have a great, we love our fans.
We have a nice fan community.
We sometimes get annoyed by some of the, you know, the-
Dib shits.
Some of the dib shits, some of the real idiots.
But for the most part,
I think we have a lovely fan community
and it's great over there on the Dosecord.
So I had never had barbecue chicken before we covered this.
I did get it twice in advance of this episode.
So I dined in at the Sawtelle location,
which just has a few tables, like a KFC interior.
And so what people should know about this
if you're going as a solo diner is,
and you want bone and chicken,
there isn't the equivalent of like a two
or three piece combo.
It's a whole chicken or half chicken.
Like that's the smallest portion you can get it in.
I got a question for you.
Yeah.
You were on Sawtell.
Did you see Jigsaw?
I actually, I went in there and they told me
Jigsaw had just left.
Wow.
I was like, oh, that's a bummer.
Yeah. They were like, it's like, oh, that's a bummer. Yeah.
They were like, yeah, he took his little trike
and he just rode out of it.
Oh, he rode in on his trike.
He rode in on his little trike
and then he had like an Uber Eats order he picked up.
Oh, he's delivering Uber Eats?
He's delivering for Uber Eats.
Oh my God.
On the trike though.
Inefficient.
Yeah.
But it's a nice treat for somebody.
They're just like, my trike was Jigsaw.
Well, does he pull any shit when, like, my driver jigsaw. Well does he pull any shit when like,
you know, when you do like, is it like,
does he pull any, like, you have to guess something right
to get your meal or something?
That's the thing.
He's like, this is just my side hustle.
Like I'm just doing this so I can do that other stuff.
He's like, please don't ask me if I'm gonna do any puzzles.
I'm just trying to deliver the food.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause sometimes he'll drop off a meal and someone will be like,
I would like to play a game if you're down.
He's like, I'm not doing that.
I'm off the clock.
I'm not doing that right now.
This is a different thing.
Is his voice different?
He doesn't do the voice?
He'll do the voice.
Oh, it is his voice.
It's just his voice.
For the tip.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I got a...
I got something to say.
Jigsaw is fun.
We like Jigsaw.
Jigsaw is a fun character.
I'm happy he's in the world.
I'm glad Jigsaw exists.
Sweet guy.
So I got a half chicken
and it took about 20 minutes for them to fry it to order.
So just know what you're like,
and this is a place you order in advance.
I think it's not usually for dining in,
it's usually for to go. But that was my one experience I had, which I'll
talk about what I thought about that. But Mitch, you also got this in advance of what
we had today.
I went with Edwin.
That's where you went with Edwin.
That's where I went with Edwin.
Wow.
And Edwin also helped me out with an audition, high profile audition. Let me tell you, woo,
this audition.
Wow.
Ooh, boy, good one. Oh. Can't tell you what it is.
But we-
It's for the new Kevin Smith movie starring Kevin James.
What am I audition for? To be the body double? What the fuck am I going to do?
They're not going to put another big guy in the movie.
This guy looks like a Kevin.
This guy looks like a Kevin. We went to the Glendale BBQ Chicken.
Okay.
And went to a great guy who we met years ago when we went to...
Met him in Boston.
Yeah. Where the hell did we go though? Union Oyster House.
We went to Union Oyster House together. Great guy.
Yeah.
So we had a nice little afternoon together. BBQ Chicken and auditioning, which he helped me with, it was very kind.
I had just heard about it from,
I'm getting a phone call, it's my sister.
Did you text that girl?
Yeah.
Dear Lord.
And I was in Quincy this last week, crazy enough, Romani and LD were like,
we gotta get BBQ chicken.
Love that.
They were like, we gotta order.
Out there?
When I was in, yeah, when I was in Quincy.
There's one in Quincy.
And the Saturday night,
which is like the first full day I was back,
I was over at Romani's house,
we were all hanging out, watched the Bruins.
Fun.
Who were probably eliminated at this point.
They're close to eliminated right now anyways.
But we, they were like, oh, it's closed.
And they're like, it's the best chicken.
I think Shieldsy is the one who turned them on to it.
Wow.
So I didn't have it then.
And then I was like, oh, we're reviewing.
I didn't realize it was the same place
that we were reviewing this next week.
I went with Edwin yesterday, Wags.
Blown away.
Wow.
I loved it.
Today, I don't know if this was your first experience
with it today.
No.
Today, okay, good.
Cause today we got it delivered and there was a bit of,
you know, like a bit of delivery chill on it.
Sure.
But man, I'm happy I went yesterday.
Yes, I'm glad I got the experience of,
when I got it at the Sautel location,
there was a, it was like piping hot.
It was like almost like first bite almost burned my mouth.
Like that level of like just like fresh out of the fryer.
And I'm glad I got that experience because I really,
I just got the golden original, but, which is their fresh out of the fryer. And I'm glad I got that experience because I really, I just got the golden original,
but which is their default flavor.
They have a lot of ones that are on,
who have different dry rubs and sauces,
but I just thought it was really, really well fried.
And part of the fun of Korean fried chicken
is the pickled radish you get.
Oh my God, don't get me started.
What an accompaniment.
It's just delicious.
It frustrates me that I understandably, a lot of people are loads to try certain foods
because of the smell.
Sure.
I think pickled radish might fall in that category.
Yeah.
Of like, oh, that's too weird.
Or people who smell their food before they eat it.
This is a pet peeve of mine.
Smelling your food before you eat it?
People who are like, oh, I've never tried this before.
And they do like a big long sniff. And I'm like, don't sniff it, just fucking eat it. Yeah. This is one of those things. If you eat it? You know people who are like, oh, I've never tried this before and they do like a big long sniff
and I'm like, don't sniff it, just fucking eat it.
This is one of those things, if you smell it first,
you're gonna be like a little turned off,
but if you just eat it, oh my God, it's so delicious.
But it stinks up your fridge.
I keep pickled radish from H Mart in my fridge
and it reeks.
Amelia said something horrific,
which I don't even wanna repeat it.
She said, this food has a smell to it and I will tell you after you're done eating. I think Aria said something horrific, which I don't even want to repeat it.
She said, this food has a smell to it, and I will tell you after you're done eating.
Oh yeah.
But she said it reminded her of her niece's baby diaper.
Diaper pail.
Pail.
Yeah, specifically the pickled radish.
And I said, that's what I said to her,
I was like, is it the pickled radish?
Look, I don't think I'm a sniffer.
Are you a sniffer?
Might be a sniffer. Yeah, I've noticed? Might be a sniffer. It's, yeah, I've noticed it.
With food, we're saying.
Oh yeah.
Oh.
Does it ever.
Look, I'm voting for Biden, all right.
The king of the sniffer.
Does it make you think better
about whatever you're about to eat, smelling it,
or is it habit?
I think what it is is if it's something
I'm not familiar with, I just wanna have a sense of it, but I'm not like is is if it's something I'm not familiar with, I just want to have a sense
of it, but I'm not like, I'm not like because I'm approaching it skeptically.
Like I'm always approaching new foods with an open mind.
So I just like, what is this thing?
I'm just trying to grab my mind around it before I bite it, you know?
But maybe it's a bad habit.
Okay, that's fair.
No, I think that's fair.
But the pickled radish is delicious.
I love that it's such a great accompaniment to the fried chicken.
Pickled radish is great and it does have a bad smell to it.
I think that with the heat, it's the perfect way to cool things down.
It's really great.
I've nearly tried every flavor now, but yesterday when I went with Edwin, we got ourselves
kimchi fried rice.
And then for the wings, I did Gangnam style.
And then what is, we got the four alarm spicy today,
but what's the one step below that spicy?
So, oh wait, I just closed the menu accidentally.
It's the, the one we got today was their,
they're like, they're hot, they're super hot wings.
Give me one second to get this open there.
There are for sure different flavors at different locations.
I want to say that because a few of those
were not at my local one.
So this is a thing we ran into.
And so because the parent company is the so its own thing Genesis BBQ
And it's hard to get like a lot of like specific insight in how this company operates
but my general understanding is there's a pretty big franchising company and
Some individual franchises, especially in different territories starts in South Korea
Have a little bit of leeway in terms of what they offer because yes
There's a lot of flavors that are on their menu, but like for instance,
I was at the Sautel location, some of those weren't available or were only available in
certain combinations.
Yeah. Which I don't like that, by the way. I'm a control freak and I like being able to have
what I want no matter where I go.
Sure. Well, and a big part of what you want
from a chain restaurant is predictability and consistency.
And so when things scale up
and it starts to be all over the place,
it makes you feel a little crazy.
So the super hot wings we got today were the wings of fire,
but as far as like a less hot version of that.
I know what I got, I got the hot spicy.
Hot spicy, yes.
So the hot spicy is the ones we got boneless
and that was my favorite flavor.
We got the honey garlic bone-in
and we also got the Gangnam style bone-in,
which the woman at the front counter said
that was like a fan favorite was Gangnam style,
which I thought was okay.
Black pepper sauce and garlic and onions.
It was good.
We got cheeseling fries, which I thought were strange.
I thought they were weird and not what
I thought they would be at all.
And I guess that's on me of not reading the menu description.
But I thought it would just be fries with the cheese powder.
Yes.
And there was a sauce on top of it.
We didn't have sauce on ours, Edwin and I,
but they were, we talked about this.
It's like the sweet, savory mix that there's
in some Korean food, and it doesn't work for me that well.
And when we got Korean pizza, it was the same sort of issue.
Well, I like sweet and savory together,
but as far as like a, I think it's specifically here,
it's the combination of because there's a,
there's cheese powder on the fries, right?
And you seem to know a little bit more
about cheese-ling powder.
Yeah, I'm really into this whole cheese-ling thing.
Cheese-ling?
Yes.
The Duke of cheese-ling.
I don't know what the name means, I'll start there.
Friend with, yeah, friend with Emerson.
Yes, Emerson and the Duke of Cheesemore.
Um, it's a sweet cheese powder.
Right.
Is how I understand it to be.
But it really only works when your chicken is fresh.
I don't see this being something you can order
when you're getting it to go.
So I disliked it on the fries.
I did not like it at all.
And then we got it on the chicken today
and it worked a million times better wise.
I think that's what we were getting at.
And going back to the fries,
the ones that we got, the cheeseling fries we got today
and the cheeseling fries I got on Friday,
they have the cheeseling powder,
but then they also are kind of Peter North
with a sweet chili sauce.
And so that's where you get the combination of,
it's just like, I've got this cheese flavor,
but then I've also got like kind of a syrupy sweetness.
And again, just for my palate,
it's not a flavor combo I'm familiar with.
So that wasn't really working for me,
even though I think the fries were well-fried.
But the actual fried chicken,
so I just got the golden original again,
like I mentioned when I got it at Sautel.
When I had that fresh, I was like,
this is fucking five fork fried chicken.
This is so fucking good.
The golden original, I feel like,
I would even like it to be a little bit more seasoned,
but considering it, it's like kind of like
their baseline one and then a lot of them
come with powders and sauces.
I'm like, you know what, as a default fried chicken,
this is excellent fried chicken.
I really, really enjoyed it.
And I got some hot sauce for dipping
and you know what, that worked out pretty great for me.
So just from that side,
if it was just going off of that experience,
I was like, this is a fucking great chain.
They are absolutely nailing what they're trying to do.
But you've had this chain before.
You've had barbecue, BBQ chicken before.
What is your past experience here?
Great question.
I live out in the boonies in the Inland Empire,
about an hour and a half from here.
And barbecue chicken, how I first was introduced to it I live out in the boonies in the Inland Empire, about an hour and a half from here,
and barbecue chicken, how I first was introduced to it,
was through H Mart.
It's a staple at a lot of those larger H Marts,
which is a Korean grocery store,
for anyone who doesn't know.
But of course, we do a pilgrimage out to LA
to go to the closest H Mart,
and then you stop at the barbecue chicken,
you put in your order, and then you go shop,
and you come back, and it's ready. But as a result of doing that, you put in your order and then you go shop and you come back and it's ready.
But as a result of doing that,
you always eat it there, not to go.
So I've only ever had it up until today,
fresh right then and there,
no waiting period of any sort.
And so I think I'm a skew positive
with every experience I've had with barbecue chicken.
It's always fresh, it's already there.
Yeah.
And like, there's something about being in an environment
surrounded by Korean food, eating Korean food
that makes it more enjoyable.
Sure.
It feels, yeah, when they finally opened in Redlands,
which is the point of me saying I'm out in the boonies,
I felt like a huge get, oh my God, it's like here,
I don't have to go all the way to H Mart.
And then eating it there, it's delicious and so good,
even fresh, but it still wasn't quite hitting
like it would if I was eating it at H Mart.
Well, and that they have a location in Redlands
and in Quincy.
It's amazing.
That sort of speaks to like how much
they're trying to expand this concept.
Because you know, Sautel is a neighborhood,
basically one stretch of road in LA
that's like a traditionally Japanese American,
you know, immigrant community
that's got a lot of like Asian restaurants.
That's where one of these chains would be clustered.
And Jigsaw.
Yeah, and Jigsaw hangs around there,
delivering from Uber Eats, but like the...
Do we know Jigsaw's race?
I've never seen Saw.
That's a great question.
I think we do.
I think he's Caucasian, yeah.
Well, hold on a second.
You're talking about there's Jigsaw,
the man who rides a tricycle, and then the guy.
The guy, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we don't know too much story about the doll, Jigsaw.
Oh, you mean the puppet, what his ethnicity is, yeah.
The guy who you saw tricycling around.
Yeah, that's who I saw.
I don't really feel comfortable trying
to diagnose his ethnicity, because he's a doll.
But I would say that we do know that he lives there.
We do know that he's from Sautel.
OK, so he might be Japanese.
Yeah, it's possible.
Anyway, but that's like-
Can we pitch something to you?
We were gonna do Sautel Month
and do all the restaurants on Sautel
and watch every, and watch like four Saut movies.
What do you think?
That's a great idea.
And then we were gonna maybe have like Jigsaw,
I don't know, Mookie would play-
And then do Puzzles.
Yeah, yeah, oh, that's good as hell.
That would be another layer unlocked, yeah.
That's good as hell.
This is a great idea.
Or you could just end the show.
We should, you know what? I'm just kidding. I love that. I love the show. This is a great idea. Or you could just end the show. Yeah. We should. You know what?
I'm just kidding.
I love that.
I love the show.
I like your second pitch.
I mean, when you're saying things like,
I had cheeseling fries today and cheeseling fries on Friday,
we should end the show.
I did not get to get cheeseling fries twice.
You shouldn't have cheeseling fries twice in a week.
No, you should have cheeseling fries twice in 72 hours. I don't think that's ever been uttered.
I don't think anyone's ever said,
I had cheeseling fries today and on Friday.
And there's something so unserious about cheeseling fries.
It's like, stop, don't say that.
I did not, I don't like the cheeseling coating.
I think it works way better on the chicken,
but I just don't like it.
You don't like it even with the chicken,
even though it works better.
I think it works better, but- But you know, that's just don't like it. You don't like it even with the chicken, even though it works better. I think it works better, but-
But you know, that's okay.
Yeah. I get it.
It is weird.
Cedar Sidon is calling.
My heart monitor's probably going crazy.
And you know what, it makes sense.
We're talking about Jigsaw over here.
He puts the fear into me, you know what I mean?
I'm saying, I'm scared right now when you talk about Jigsaw.
That's the kind of thing he would do.
He would hack your heart monitor.
Oh my God.
And there'd be some sort of thing where like you have to
like stop your own heart in order to unlock the handcuffs.
You know.
Jigsaw.
Wow, that's really good.
Don't even think about it.
Don't do it, Jigsaw.
Jigsaw, don't even think about it.
We already thought it.
We already figured out what your puzzle is
and now you can't do that one.
You can't do that one.
All right. All right.
All right, good.
I think we're cool.
He just falls over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would push my little button.
They are, Cedar Sinai was calling.
Did you just take it?
No, that's fine.
Just put your phone on do not disturb
and maybe just check in on all your calls after the record.
I think it's a fun update for people
who listen to the podcast.
I think people are maybe worried about you.
This is life.
Things happen in life.
They hear about it.
I know.
I think the update that you got a call from your doctor
a month and a half ago when this coming out.
That's true.
Well, maybe it will be an explanation
for what happens at that point.
Look at that walle in her on my picture.
Very cute.
Aw, little skunk.
Very cute. There as your phone background.
All right, let's get into the chicken.
So we got the Golden Original.
This was a big order we got today
and then we ate before this record.
We got the Golden Original and the Secret Sauce.
These were both bone-in.
The Secret Sauce is a sweet and tangy taste
on our Golden Original.
We also got the-
Edwin and I wanted to try these and I vetoed him and we got the hot spicy, which actually
was the move.
Yes.
It was a great flavor.
But I do think the secret sauce is good and has a little bit of heat. We got the Galbi,
which is we got his wings, right? Or we get that as whole chicken. I thought we got that
as wings.
We got those as wings. The Galbi were wings and Sus made a joke because he thought, he's
like, this sounds like it's from Harry Potter.
He was thinking Dobby.
He was thinking of Dobby the house elf.
Yeah, yeah, he really fucked up.
The Galbi is a free elf.
This doesn't.
This doesn't.
So that one is a, it's a sweet, savory and smoky
with green onions and a sesame seed garnish
is the description.
We also got the Cheesling,
which is destined to rich medley of sweet cheeses.
We got the Wings of ling, which is destined to met rich medley of sweet cheeses. We got the
Wings of fire which I mentioned Korea's hottest wings order if you dare for flame symbols
And I think we're missing one what what what one did I not say?
Oh, we got the we got the honey garlic and we got that is boneless
So you can get basically any sauce at least in theory as whole chicken wings or boneless
I never thought that the honey garlic would be divisive because that is like, they say
that's their-
It's their most popular flavor at least in the US.
Their most popular flavor, and I think it is good.
I liked it.
I didn't like it.
I didn't like it, and I really wanted to like it.
It's the kind of thing I would order at any other restaurant.
Like, oh, of course, sign me up, honey garlic wings.
But in execution, it just wasn't there for me.
Interesting. The one I got, I will say it wasn't overly sweet, which I liked, it just wasn't there for me. Interesting.
The one I got, I will say it wasn't overly sweet,
which I liked, and some of these sauces
were maybe a little sweet for me,
but I got a lot of garlic, at least with my tendie,
and I think that might've been part of it,
of just like it really just cut the sweetness.
Okay, interesting.
No, it didn't feel garlic-heavy to me.
It just, yeah, at that point,
it didn't feel like it had any flavor, really.
Ooh, all right, yeah.
Interesting.
Might have been some individual variants.
The secret sauce I liked this one was,
yes, like I was just saying,
this one was maybe a little bit on the sweeter side,
but just still just had a little bit of,
just a touch of heat to it.
There was some actual heat with the,
which I was anticipating, with the wings of fire.
That one's only available as wings.
Now, I'm a bit of a heat seeker.
I love a spicy wing.
I took down this bad boy and you were eating it
and I was still like, it's set up like a dare food.
It's set up like howling rays, like howling.
Like this is something that's gonna be so hot.
I had like three pieces of it, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and this is going to destroy your whole or whatever.
I thought this was like a very spicy wing,
but like not like at that level of punishment.
No. Yeah.
I mean, I thought it was great.
I liked it a lot.
I really liked it.
I love howl and raise, but like there's,
I feel like once you get above medium,
I don't even wanna eat it.
It's so spicy and like,
and also like makes me feel like I'm gonna die afterwards.
But this is like a nice hot spicy flavor that is not hopefully gonna make me feel like I'm gonna die afterwards, but this is like a nice hot spicy flavor. That is not
Hopefully gonna make me feel sick, you know, like I think it's a huge we're talking about like the difference between like
Eastern and Western spice, you know what I mean? And and I think it's just up
It's it's it's spicy you you were you you thought it was very you thought it was pretty hot
Yeah, I mean you yeah
And I'm ashamed as an Indian person that I couldn't handle this heat
But I couldn't and but I will say I agree with what you
said there comes to be a certain point when it becomes just heat and no flavor
yes and to this wings defense the flavor was there 100% it was too hot for me but
I could very much taste the flavor it was flavorful I was enjoying it but I
couldn't take more than a few bites that's just because I can't handle a lot
of heat. Yeah that's that's totally reasonable I would say
spicy I it was it was legitimately spicy it's us that it knocked it up half a
fork for him that his rating on the he was also going to get lunch he was very
proud that he was just gonna he was like I'm only gonna have a few wings and then
I'm going to sweet cream I'm like who gives a shit that's not that cool of an
accomplishment you're gonna eat like a few pieces of fried chicken
then go get a salad.
You're bragging about having two meals basically
back to back.
Only a little bit of fried chicken.
He had a lot too.
He had like a lot.
He had quite a bit of fried chicken.
As much as us probably.
Yeah.
So he just ate more food than us.
He just ate more food.
He's being all smug about it.
He had a big salad,
which is probably a thousand calorie salad.
I wonder what salad he got.
I can't get the fried chicken salad.
Extra cheeseling.
So they're getting a cheeseling bowl.
I really, really overall like this chicken.
I thought like the sauces that we're hitting
were really hitting it. I thought everything was really well fried, chicken. I thought like the sauces that we're hitting were really hitting it.
I thought everything was really well fried,
especially for something that by the time
we started eating it, I'm just assuming
with delivery and transit and idle time,
it was 20 to 30 minutes before we actually ate this thing.
And I thought it held up really, really well.
And I think this is a concept that largely does
do take out and delivery.
I kind of like the mozzarella sticks too. We didn't talk about the mozzarella sticks,
we were just talking about chicken. They were fine.
I'm surprised you even thought they were fine. I thought they were pretty. They were fine. I've
had worse mozzarella sticks. I mean, it just seems like a thing that probably shouldn't be
on the menu. I don't know why they have them. Absolutely. Yeah, I agree with that. Or at least
make it a cheeseling mozzarella stick. That would be fun.
That would be fun. That is kind of the way to do it.
That's something. A restaurant honestly, that is kind of the way to do it. That
month, something someone who you own a restaurant owner, you're smart. You get it. We're, we're idiots.
No, that's a, it is a, it is a good idea though. If you're going to offer
something like that, that's seemingly random, then at least add your twist.
But with this, they were like, no, let's just do mozzarella sticks.
Yeah. Well, by the way, my honey garlic was, the garlic was really hitting on my honey garlic when I ate it in store yesterday.
They must've had, Buffy must've been slinging back there.
That's probably what it was.
They probably had Simon Belmont in the kitchen.
Yeah, Simon, yeah, Simon Belmont, Buffy back there slinging.
They were probably working together.
That has to be the explanation for it.
Jigsaw comes for pick up.
Jigsaw did come to, and then you know,
handed the pick up was Van Helsing.
It was like, hey, I'm working today, so here you go.
But mine were garlicky.
Today I felt like they were not as garlicky.
And I think there is too much room for it to vary
because I also didn't have a very garlicky bite,
but you said you had a ton of garlic.
I did, I thought mine was pretty garlicky.
Maybe I just got a bunch of individual garlic pieces
on it or something, I don't know.
But overall though I'm just like,
I'm so positive on this chicken.
Me too, you know what?
I just thought it was all really hitting.
I gotta say this, I gave six forks to Bonchon.
Yeah.
Bonchon just came to Quincy.
Wow. What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bonchon's sweet.
Redland's next.
So I mean, I was very excited about it.
The sad news is it's next to, it's
like basically in Stop and Shop.
It's like right next to it, which is a grocery store.
OK.
And so it's like right next to Stop and Shop,
and everyone says it's not good.
It's like a bad Bonchon.
And everyone's loving this BBQ chicken place.
I gave Bonchhan six forks.
I mean, should I just go into my...
Well, no, we should talk a little bit about the sides
because I've only talked about chicken.
We should talk about the...
Oh, boy, I looked up how to pronounce this ahead of time
and I've already forgotten.
Duk-bok-ki? I think it's something like that.
I think it's like tuk-bok-ki.
Tuk-bok-ki.
This is a classic Korean street food made from rice cakes
and fish cakes in a sweet and spicy chili reduction.
And so it kind of has like a little bit of,
kind of a chewy pasta-like texture to it.
Very, very much looks like a sauce.
If you like rice cakes,
there's rice cakes and fish cakes in it.
Emma, you were having problems with the texture.
I usually love those little rice cakes,
but it was not working for me today.
It was like too gummy,
and maybe it just like wasn't for me today, but I usually like love those little rice cakes, but it was not working for me today. It was like too gummy. And maybe it just like wasn't for me today,
but I usually like love those little rice noodle things.
I feel like also if we had had this in the restaurant,
it maybe would have hit a little bit better.
But it also felt kind of random, right?
Like, what is it?
It is, it's like very much just, it's a Korean dish.
So I feel like it's like, you know,
the kimchi fried rice, this, and then, you know, like there's's just like a couple dishes that they throw on there to go with the way
Yes, you're on the menu actually they're like these are just some Korean dishes yes, we're Korean here
The menu copy is fundamentally that it says you can't call yourself a Korean restaurant without mastering the classics and our K food options from
Hardy helpings of kimchi fried rice to spicy bowls of dekboki always deliver on
quality and authenticity. So yeah, it almost feels like this is pure out of obligation
to prove our bona fides or something, but it's primarily a chicken restaurant.
So I vetoed Edwin's sweet and spicy wings and I did the spicy hot instead, which was
a hit. But I also ordered the kimchi fried rice.
Poor Edwin, you're vetoing his order.
No, Edwin.
Going out to see his friend.
Helping me do an audition.
Poor Edwin, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him,
I was in control there and I ordered the kimchi fried rice
and Edwin made a point and I think he was right.
There was red pepper in there and he's like,
the red pepper is like,
ungepatschka basically.
Wow.
He didn't say your stupid phrase, so don't worry.
There's no, you don't have to sue Edwin now.
He'd love to send a cease and desist order.
I, I. Edwin calls me from jail.
They do a lot of sides is the thing.
And I wonder like obviously the pickled radish
you gotta have.
Absolutely.
We're talking about a cool down.
But I wonder, but-
It cools you down.
I just wonder if like some of the things,
you need it, it is a cool down.
But just to finish my point, I think like a,
like a, I wonder if a thing like a kimchi fried rice
just not knowing a ton a kimchi fried rice,
just not knowing a ton about Korean fried chicken,
is the expectation like with an American fried chicken place
is like, well, you gotta have coleslaw,
you gotta mac and cheese, you know what I mean?
They also do have coleslaw here.
Yeah, but is there a sense of that part
of why it's on the menu?
I don't know.
Edwin ordered some ranch, which was interesting
because I don't think any-
Oh yeah, you gave me some ranch today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think any like. Oh yeah, you gave me some ranch today. Yeah, I don't think none of these wings need ranch.
No, there is a weird confusion with this restaurant where, like you're saying,
there's some dishes that you maybe don't need to be on the menu.
So many options.
But the star of the show is so good.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the rest is, but hey, back to that, the cool down factor of those radishes.
It's kind of genius.
It's genius. It is. It's great. You're eating the hot wings and you take it, the cool down factor of those radishes. It's kind of genius. It's genius.
It is.
It's great.
You're eating the hot wings
and you get a couple of pieces of radish in there.
You're leveled off.
And it's tangy too.
It's like, cool.
It's fucking great.
Takes you there.
It has the cool down.
It's awesome.
You could have also added cheese to the kimchi fried rice,
which I have never really seen done before.
Maybe I don't.
Talk about ungepatschka.
I mean, just cool it.
It is.
You know, with the, why have the, and then I thought the same with them
throwing on the sauce on the cheeseling fries.
Cool it.
Like, why do we need all, why do we need all that?
Yeah.
We don't.
I agree.
But I didn't think they were well fried.
I just like kind of wonder if like,
we should have just gotten fries or sweet potato fries.
Like, normal fries.
We should have tried a baseline.
The fried egg on that kimchi fried rice was was nice.
And yeah, I look, I have high thoughts all around.
I some of that other stuff you don't you don't need it, I guess.
But come on, the wings are fantastic.
Especially if you're comparing to like a lot of other chicken places.
If I have the option, I'm not going to pull up to Popeyes or KFC if I have a barbecue chicken.
Wow.
Two chains we've reviewed in recent memory.
Edwin was saying that he lives in Arizona
and he goes to a Suns game and there's a Shaq's big chicken
and they're giving out free samples at the arena.
Wow.
It's just to talk about a chain
that didn't work for us at all.
Yeah.
Phoenix Suns great, Shaquille O'Neal.
Oh, I didn't know that existed.
One of the many teams he played for.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, they're giving out samples at the Sun's game,
which is, it's bad news.
This is, Shaq's Big Chicken, God bless Shaq,
but this is the complete opposite of the spectrum of,
that's like a cheap cash-in,
that's like a poorly executed version of it.
This is like a place that has,
the chicken is the reason that you go to this place.
It's not because they have some partnership
with some celebrity.
We should get to our final thoughts on BBQ Chicken.
So tons of you know the show, you know this works, but we'll each go around, give a closing
argument if you will, and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks.
You are our guest.
We'll begin with you.
Your thoughts, your fork score, BBQ Chicken.
Thank you so much.
I actually don't eat chicken.
What the hell?
What a reveal.
This is her reveal.
I really don't.
I have like an intolerance to birds,
like turkey, chicken, duck.
Wow. But I'm fine for now.
Oh, but.
But I.
It's great doughboy scheduling once again.
No, I chose this restaurant.
Yes. Okay, all right, all right.
I chose this restaurant and on purpose
because I think it makes me a more legitimate reviewer
that when I eat chicken, it's on purpose
and I mean business and I can't afford for it
to not be good because it's a rarity.
And every time, go ahead.
You know who's sensitive to birds?
My cat Irma.
She doesn't, it's the truth, she doesn't,
chicken upsets her.
Oh, eating it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you thought it was, you thought I was saying
like they like get, they do.
Don't get me wrong, they love seeing birds.
They go crazy over birds.
They start talking.
You know when cats, like, anyone have,
yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
I know what you're talking about.
Like when cats see birds, like,
brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr,
like they kind of talk.
It's very cute.
Oh, so she is intolerant towards birds.
Yeah, she's intolerant, she's just,
basically, yeah, I think being,
saying some evil cat stuff towards the birds.
But she can't eat, but I never, I have with amongst
human friends, I have a lot of animal friends, but amongst human friends I have not heard of
a lot of people that are allergic to- Yeah, it's like a poultry allergy.
That's wild. Yeah, and it's so weird.
But honestly- And it's also probably very annoying.
Yeah, but I eat so much beef and bacon, it doesn't really matter. Like, I don't mind missing out on the chicken.
Yeah, minus the whole weight loss thing, and they're like, eat baked chicken.
It's not gonna help me.
Yeah.
You use seafood at all?
I love seafood.
I want my next tattoo to be a little fish.
What kind of fish?
Matching tattoos, guys?
Um, yeah.
All right, okay.
It's so funny for us to just have fish tattoos.
It'd be cute.
What type of fish are you thinking?
So where I'm from in India, it's called Kerala.
It's kind of like the Hawaii of India.
And they have this one fish that they deep fry
and you eat it deep fried and you can like see the eyeball.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I would get that fish.
That's cool.
I like that.
Because that's my favorite thing to eat.
But all to say, when I eat chicken.
You think us two OCD guys could have something
on their skin right here?
I would try to wash it off.
I'd be licking my forearm doing records. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And then at the end of your shows, you can all just like kind of put down your jeans and go like,
Ooh, or something, you know? It's cute. Talk to me. Talk to me about it.
Think of it like a bullseye.
Dear God.
What?
Don't want to say that to Doughboy's listeners.
That's how it ends for us someday, hopefully.
Yeah, we're going to be Hinkley.
We're definitely going to get Hinkley.
Which is, you know.
They're better, they're worse ways to go.
They're worse ways to die.
I hope you guys don't get assassinated, if that's what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
One of the nicer things the guests have ever said to us.
Yeah.
Yeah, I hope to see you again after this.
Where was I?
Sorry, we went on a tangent.
You were talking about you don't eat much chicken.
Thank you.
So when I do, I fucking mean business.
And when I mean business, I end up at barbecue chicken.
You cannot get past.
I don't recommend getting it to go.
I get that that is the norm.
Maybe that's LA culture. But in Redlands, we got nothing but time and we order it
and we sit our asses down, we eat it fresh at the restaurant.
You can't beat it.
That chicken is crispy.
It's flavorful.
Sure.
If you're getting a variety of sauces and sharing amongst friends, which I
recommend you do, uh, some of the profile flavor profiles are going to get a bit
repetitive and it leans a little too, too familiar in the
sweet salty situation, but even then I would pick
it every time over any other chicken restaurant.
I am worried that the Dave's hot chicken
effect might happen and they'll expand too
quickly and lose their quality.
Yeah.
So this might be the last, the final
days of this restaurant.
So enjoy it while you can.
We never know what's going to happen.
We can never take it for granted.
The fact that it's made to order is still,
I feel like, a great sign.
Sure. And what a stamp of approval
to be like, I'm allergic to chicken,
and I love this place. And I love this shit, yes.
I mean, that's, it's- For sure.
Does it, like, just, when you eat it,
does it upset your stomach, or is it like-
Yeah, I just have, like, a, yeah.
I just feel kinda ill, and then, yeah.
Yeah, Jesus. You just puke it out
a little bit, and you move on with your life.
You know? Wow.
Not that big of a deal. In fact, can I use the bathroom?
I'm just kidding.
I feel great.
I smoked a lot of weed.
I've never heard of like a bird allergy or a bird aversion.
It might not be real, but it's like it only happens when I eat.
No, it's your body.
I mean, you know, you know, things like that.
I mean, the vet said that it's very common for cats to have.
Yeah, I saw a vet too. it's very common for cats to have.
Yeah, I saw a vet too. That's what told me.
Is it common though for cats?
She said that it's like, it's not unusual.
She's like, I mean, she said like it can happen.
It's not a weird thing.
It's really common in pit bulls.
Oh, really? Pit bulls are allergic to chicken and they can't have it.
Poor little pit bull. Poor babies.
Yeah. Poor little chicken. Jemmy loves chicken.
Poor Mr. Worldwide.
She woke up, I know.
She said chicken?
Chicken?
Chicken?
This is more, Wags and I made a pit bull,
the singer joke, and quietly to each other,
and no one paid attention to it.
I liked it.
Mr. Worldwide, I love it.
Mr. Worldwide.
Mr. 305.
Have you seen those bachelorette parties
where they all wear the bald caps
and they go to a pit bull concert,
like dressed as pit bulls?
That's a thing?
That's a thing, it's very cool.
I'm trying to do that.
Or like a Shrek bachelorette, and they all-
A Shrek bachelorette?
Yeah, and you all dress up as ogres.
I think I got a new fucking line of work.
Yeah.
Where do you land with your Fork score?
Where does this ultimately take you?
Wow.
I know I've listened to literally every episode of the show.
How many Forks are we doing this out of?
Five. Five.
Thank you, thank you.
Literally every episode.
Out of five, this is a solid four Forks.
Four Forks, wow.
Maybe two Tines.
Four Forks, two Tines.
Yeah. Good score.
By the way, our buddy, Father Tyne, Matt Selman.
That's right.
Who gave us the idea of Tyne's for the rating scale.
That's right.
The big chicken guy.
I wonder if he's had BBQ chicken.
Let us know, Selman.
He's going to have it now, for sure.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if that's true.
I don't know if he still listens or what the deal is.
I see he listens.
Wiggs, I had a great time with my friend Edwin
right near the Americana.
What about your friends Weiger and Tonsu?
I had a great time with you guys too.
Whatever.
Sorry we're not Edwin.
Yeah.
Edwin's great, we all love Edwin.
Can we text Edwin and see if Edwin's available
for the episode?
Maybe I will.
I should ask Edwin what his fork score is.
Okay. I'm saying yesterday I had a I should ask Edwin what his fork score is. Okay.
I'm saying yesterday I had a great time with Edwin.
Yes.
And it was a nice little day we had together.
And right near the Americana, a beautiful place, a beautiful mall.
L.A. could have looked like that if we had figured things out.
But I, my eyes were open to a great new chicken spot
and I'm not gonna give this six forks like Bonchon
because that was just one of the great meals.
And also I think it was during the pandemic,
which was like, it was like, felt like a life-saving meal.
It was like one of the most beautiful moments
I had during pandemic.
But this to me right now,
hey, maybe the quality will drop like you're saying,
maybe it's gonna like overexpand,
but right now the chicken is hitting wags.
And I feel sorry for you Irma,
cause this is a five forker for me.
This is a five fork restaurant. Five for me. Wow. This is a five-fork restaurant.
Five forks platinum plate score for me.
Wow, and we're very much in Golden Plate Club territory
with these two scores.
Before we get into mine, Emma, you had some of this.
Your thoughts on BBQ chicken.
Had you had this before?
I had not had it before.
I was also very confused by the BBQ.
It also feels weird still to call it barbecue chicken,
not BBQ chicken, because it's not barbecue, right?
So I asked one of the workers at Sautel,
like, how do you pronounce the name?
And you just say it apparently, BBQ chicken.
You don't say barbecue chicken.
You don't say barbecue, so BBQ chicken.
No, this is the first time I've had it.
But Americans are gonna say barbecue chicken,
because that's what they're used to seeing, you know?
It's a little confusing, but it was fantastic.
That golden original is probably all I would ever need.
The flavors were fun to try, but I think if I went back,
I'd probably just get that golden original.
Those hot wings were good, but they were so hot.
My eyes were watering, my nose was running.
So if you need to clear yourself out,
that would probably do the trick.
But I would definitely give that chicken five forks.
That golden chicken.
Now I feel like I was too much of a critic.
No, you're fine because I think from our critical side,
we're gonna go to Casey over here.
So Casey-
Casey threw his on the floor.
Big time Popeye skeptic.
I came in here before the record and we're all in there.
We're having a good time.
Mitch is complaining that we're not Edwin,
but we're all eating in there.
You're in here at the studio getting things set up,
and I'm like, Casey, up to you what you want to do,
but you might want to try this chicken.
This chicken's pretty good. People are liking this chicken.
You went in there, you tried the chicken.
I did not get your reaction. What did you think?
The chicken was pretty good.
Okay, all right.
All right, all right.
I kind of agree with Emma.
The original hit the most for me,
even though I threw it on the floor.
He did throw it.
What happened?
You drop it?
Yeah, I dropped part of it, yeah.
I gave him that piece of chicken.
It was mostly bone, but you know.
I was just about to grab a piece of the real chicken,
and then Casey came in, and it was the last piece.
So very generously, I pulled off a little piece
of chicken from it and then gave him the rest of it.
And then you flew it on the fucking floor?
I like that though, you weren't like here
have the last piece, you said,
let me take a little piece off of it.
And then I will give you the rest.
I'm very generous.
I think by the time I got to the chicken,
it had cooled down quite a bit.
They've been sitting for a while.
And I think the sauces kind of congealed a bit.
Sure.
I think hotter, those would have hit a bit more,
but the original, like at room temperature,
was pretty well.
So you think that this place is legit,
but you're still a Popeye skeptic. Look, I've only only had bad Popeyes. I need to have a good version of it
I'm open to it, but are you ordering all the right things from Popeyes? Are you getting like I don't know I think
That my issue with Popeyes is I've had two of the three times
I've tried it have been late night orders, and I think I got a not yeah, they've given up a quarter of midnight
We need we need to we need to do a pop out. Yeah, they've given up on them. Like order midnight. Yeah.
We need to do Popeye.
We gotta get this right.
We'll do a web redemption for Popeyes with Casey.
Yeah, you and Edwin.
Wait, a web redemption?
Yeah, I'll just go with Edwin.
You'd have a great time with Edwin.
But you're saying a Tosh.0 web redemption?
Yeah, Tosh.0 say a web redemption.
All right.
We're bringing them back.0 Web Redemption? Yeah, Tosh.0 Web Redemption. Alright.
We're bringing them back.
Do you know what, uh, I heard what Pacino said about, uh, uh, BBQ chicken?
What's that?
It's got a great big cloaca.
Momma mia.
Like great big ass. Yeah. But a cloaca. Cloaca is bird specific to big ass. Yeah.
But a cloaca.
Cloaca is bird specific to their anatomy.
One hole does it all.
Imagine if we could be so lucky.
How streamlined that would be.
So where would your
forks go land?
This isn't binding this in cannons.
Don't worry about it.
I'd give the chicken four forks. You'd go four forks.
So even Casey's going four forks for this one.
Yes.
Versus the American Fried Chicken chains, like what you were saying, Mitch, and what you were saying, Densu, it's just like,
if this is available, look, sometimes I'm specifically craving Popeyes, but I would get this over KFC every time.
There's no reason for me to go to KFC.
I think Popeyes does
what they're doing really, really well, but there isn't a church that's super close to
me. I like those chains a lot, but I just think this is kind of operating at a little
bit of a higher level. That said, that is reflected in their price, which we should
say.
Yes, we didn't talk about that. It's expensive.
It's expensive.
It's expensive.
It's expensive. it's expensive and and like fried chicken, you know as a food of the people
And so if you are like hoping to feed your family or something like that, you might be spending a pretty penny here
So just be conscious of that. But as far as what it's doing and how it's succeeding in that regard
I don't see how I go below five forks here
This is a five-four chain. And so I have to say welcome to the chain and so I have to say welcome to the Golden Plate Club. I get to say welcome to the Golden Plate Club. BBQ chicken. Congratulations.
Nearly platinum. It almost went platinum. Sorry about that. No, you're fine. Hopefully
that the quality level to your point retains as it continues to scale up because the aspirations
for this chain, the guy behind this and I talked about this in the intro a little bit,
Yun Hong-Kyun, the chairman and founder,
wants this to be the biggest chain restaurant in the world.
He's aiming for 50,000 locations by 2030.
That would make it bigger than McDonald's.
I don't think that's sustainable.
I don't think they can do that.
And they should dial that back a little bit.
But like, I do think what they're doing right now
at this level is pretty impressive and quite delicious.
I got a Fork score from Edwin,
who once again, let me tell ya, blast with him yesterday.
Today was very fun too, yesterday a blast.
I said, what's your Fork score?
He said, for the teleprompter, 3.75.
I used the teleprompter for my audition.
Got away with it.
Ding.
Why do you need him?
Oh, for your line.
He also helped me, he helped me, he helped me, he helped me run it.
Actually, I didn't, he helped me run the teleprompter.
He's doing like a whole production.
He like very much did help.
I think he, when he left, he was like, all right, see you later.
I think you're done with me for the day.
Sorry, Edwin.
Thank you.
I love you, buddy.
Sorry Mitch made you pay for half the meal.
That's only right.
He was gonna eat half of it.
I used the dough boy's credit card wise.
There you go.
He said, I think 4.5 forks.
Wow.
Really loved all the wings and flavors,
but I thought the rice and fries were so-so.
Yeah, I don't think the sides are,
the sides can maybe stay on the sidelines here
except for the pickled radish.
Yeah.
Also, I will say as Susser was leaving,
I was like, hey, text me your fork score later,
let me know.
And he did this, it was very cool.
He just held up five fingers.
Wow.
On his way to Sweet Cream.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Alright, I accidentally dropped it. I don't need the lore to be that I threw it on the ground
I don't know. Suspect
Can I say something I forgot to say?
BAH HUMBURG! That's Casey!
Sorry, something I wanted to point out is this is a pet peeve of mine when you're eating chicken
I'm not a chicken lover, I'm a chicken lover Can I say something I forgot to say? Bah-hum-burg. That's Casey. Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
You're gone.
Sorry.
Something I wanted to point out is this is a pet peeve of mine.
When you order a lot of things like that with a lot
of different flavors, they didn't label anything.
I agree.
The absence of labels was confounding.
That was so.
I think they lost time because of that.
They didn't label anything.
I'm supposed to guess.
Sorry.
Please, please enjoy the dress.
I just like that the chicken grinch is saying bah humbug.
The Grinch famous for saying bah humbug.
No.
Same bah hum-burg.
That's the difference.
Maybe bock hum-burg?
Bok hum-burg is probably better.
Bok hum-bug, bock hum-bug.
I almost took half a point off because there was no place to even recycle my can.
I brought my can home with me.
And it might be restaurant to restaurant, but a lot of plastic waste, which look, is everywhere in the world.
I don't think this place is as bad because the chicken comes in cardboard containers.
That's true. That is true. That's true.
Some of the sides have some plastic heavy stuff.
Anyways. That's true. That is true. That's true. Some of the sides were in the sides have some some plastic heavy stuff.
Anyways, I was just passionate about that because it's a pet peeve of mine
when I order a lot and, you know, people have had to do it. You're ordering lunch or dinner or whatever for the squad.
And then you have to figure out what is what.
Well, I imagine also you maybe are getting an office order for a bunch of boba.
And so those have all got to be labeled.
And you bet your ass I label every single one by hand.
It's worth it.
You don't want to assume people know.
Just my two cents.
No, I think that's a fair point.
All right, it's time for a segment.
It's our original take on the defunct one gotta go meme.
It's a single item must be banished boba edition.
Wow.
So Tonsu, if any of these get too hot for you to handle,
like if you're potentially gonna be endangering
your business by weighing in on these.
Not at all.
You can pass, okay.
So just give me the leeway.
My goal is not 35,000 locations by next year
or whatever that guy was, so I'm cool.
All right, first up.
Yeah, I feel it's a little too hustle-cultury to me.
It's an Asian mom thing, I'm sure.
He probably only wanted to open a few
and his mom was like, no, too high.
I relate, but yeah.
I'm moving.
A single item must be banished, Boba edition.
First up, tea bases.
Black, green, oolong, and matcha.
Ooh.
And we're each gonna go?
Yeah, everyone can say what they think.
I think it's gonna be between green and matcha.
I might get rid of matcha personally for me.
I also don't give a fuck about matcha.
Wow.
Matcha can go for me.
I think that's heretical.
I was like, Oolong, and then I was looking at Oolong,
I was like, damn, it looks good.
This all looks kind of good.
Yeah, I feel bad I didn't bring you guys boba.
It's because I've been in LA since yesterday.
I'm sorry.
That's OK.
Next time I will.
I'm kind of pissed off.
Just saying, Edwin. You're popping boba. It's kind of assumed when we both say you bring us boba. That's okay. Next time I will. I'm kind of pissed off. I'm just saying, Edwin.
It's kind of assumed when we booked you
you'd be a guest boba.
Edwin would have brought boba.
Edwin probably would have brought some boba.
What do you say, Wags?
I was thinking it's kind of when we booked you,
we kind of assumed we might get some boba.
Yeah, I understand that.
I understand that expectation.
I'm so sorry.
No, it's fine, it's fine.
No, it's fine, it's no problem.
Totally fine.
It's cool.
Sorry, are you crying?
Yeah, no. I'm's fine. No, it's fine, it's no problem. Totally fine, it's fine, it's cool. Sorry, are you crying? Yeah, no.
I'm really sorry.
No.
Matcha is my final answer, sorry.
Who gives a shit about matcha?
Not I, we make good matcha at Viva La Boba though.
Well, Nick and I would have no, we have no idea.
Yeah, we wouldn't hear it ourselves.
I'm really sorry guys.
We'd like to try it.
You know what I thought about doing?
Going to another Boba shop and bringing the Boba
and saying it was mine. And then to try it. You know what I thought about doing? Going to another boba shop and bringing the boba and saying it was mine.
And then I did it.
You changed your restaurant's name?
Yeah.
You're known as Kung Fu Tina.
I'm glad I didn't do that.
OK, sorry, continue.
I probably, boy, this is tricky.
I will keep matcha partly out of a...
I just like, I feel like this is such like a,
I expect this to be at a boba shop, you know?
And I think that's more likely to be my go-to
than a couple of these.
I guess I'll probably get rid of the green tea
just cause that's perhaps adjacent.
Wow.
But I don't know.
I mean, I almost always go black here.
Matcha, matcha, man.
You gotta get rid of it.
Get rid of matcha.
Well, it's staying for me.
What if you're doing like a fruit tea, like a mango passion fruit tea?
You wouldn't want it in a green tea?
No, I mean, I'm just this is the difficulty of the exercise.
There isn't like a clear like one to excise here.
No, the fair one is matcha.
I'm just trying to help you.
Yeah.
We've long agreed matcha is the answer.
I'll next screen.
Next up, flavors. These are compiled by Amelia. We've long agreed. We've watched it. We've watched it. Gotta go. All next screen.
Next up, flavors.
These are compiled by Amelia.
So the next one is...
Whoa, whoa.
Look at that.
We see everything working.
Wow.
We just saw the matrix of the podcast.
We saw the matrix a little bit on the screen as Emma was toggling through images here.
We're looking for people on the audio feed.
We're looking at images as we talk through these.
The next up is flavors. We've got Thai, taro, jasmine, and Hokkaido.
I don't know Hokkaido. What is the Hokkaido flavor?
Okay. My understanding is Hokkaido is not unlike a brown sugar milk tea. I might be
getting that wrong because we actually don't do Hokkaido, but it's like my understanding
sweeter and creamier, but so is a Thai tea.
These are all, this is tricky to me because I don't know all the flavors, but.
Do you know Taro?
The purple one?
I do know, I do know it and I do like it in the, but I know that also was borderline
to be eliminated for me.
Oh, you're agreeing.
Okay.
So I, that's kind of where my head went of looking at these three, I think.
And knowing that flavor,
I think I would maybe eliminate that one first.
Is it taro?
Taro or taro?
Taro.
Either is fine.
Hokkaido milk tea is a black tea base
with milk and a sweetener such as brown sugar,
honey or caramel.
Sounds fantastic.
So it's basically a brown sugar milk tea.
It is like a brown sugar milk tea, which I enjoy and so I would keep that
I'm keeping that bad boy. What does Tara have that there's Tara ice cream? What does it taste like it like a
Oubit well, it's the same thing. It's like a root
Yeah, it's like a sweet purple sweet potato, right? Yeah, I'm gonna almost say it's like cookies and cream or something
Yeah, or like cereal milk cereal lucky charm cereal milk. I like it
It's a distinct flavor and I I also like that it's purple.
That's a lot of fun.
It's my favorite color.
That's where we had the ube.
They call it ube, but same thing, right?
Similar, yeah.
I'm just saying, it looks like,
it looks like Grimace went to the sperm bank.
Ah!
It does! Looks like a glass of Grimace went to the sperm bank It does
Looks like a glass of grimace. It's like it cuz you know jizz is the same color as your skin
Whatever color your skin or fur is
Man
Yeah, Grimace is a big dude, he's probably got big chunky boba-sized sperm.
Yeah.
I think taro is my answer.
I mean, purple is fun.
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah, purple is fun.
I'm keeping that because it's fun.
I think I'd probably get rid of the jasmine.
I think I'd probably just have the other three more
on the brick already. Is jasmine the third one?
Yeah. Yeah.
Looks pretty good.
The thing with jasmine is obviously it's very floral.
So you add any other syrup to it and all of a
sudden all of that is competing with the
natural flavor of the tea.
Oh shit.
So maybe I am on board with that as well.
It's best enjoyed alone, but I think the fun
of boba is adding syrups and toppings, which is
why I would probably get rid of Jasmine.
But I also don't really care for taro. We make a delicious one at Viva La Boba.
But I personally don't care for it.
You know what?
I'm going to join you.
I think we'll make it unanimous.
Wow.
I couldn't say unanimous.
You said it.
I said it.
I got it out.
Yeah, you got it out.
The floral one.
What is it called?
Jasmine.
Jasmine.
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, Aladdin. Sorry, Aladdin.
Fuck, Aladdin's devastated.
All right, next up.
Fruity tea flavors. Wow.
Mango, peach, passion fruit, and lychee.
That's the tea?
Oh no, sorry, that's all four of them.
These are the fruity tea flavors.
Aladdin is kind of like a Doughboy's listener.
My girlfriend is like a princess.
Ah.
Yes, yes, yes.
I look for things in caves.
And sometimes I steal bread.
I love talking to my pet monkey.
My enemy is so much hotter than me.
Wow, Jafar is hotter than Aladdin?
You wouldn't fuck Jafar, don't lie.
Fuck Jafar?
You would fuck Jafar.
Fuck Jafar?
Look, almost everyone in Aladdin I'd fuck is a good looking crew.
Same.
Yeah, come on.
Yeah, everyone is hot in that movie.
All right, so Wigz, what flavors are these again?
Mango, peach, passion fruit, and lychee.
Damn!
I guess I would just excise a passion fruit.
But I like them all, I don't know.
It's just, again, this is, I just-
Mango stays, what was the second one?
Peach, maybe it's peach. Peach stays.
I like peach. Maybe I get rid of peach.
Oh, really?
Yeah, just in this context.
Yeah, it doesn't really fit
with like an Asian drink as much.
Mango.
I will say, I was confused when you first said all of them because people order drinks that are mango, peach, passion fruit, lychee and one drink.
Right, right, right.
Yes.
They're not necessarily distinct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I see them as all of the above.
This is a tough exercise for me because I'm like, what's, what's lychee taste
like again?
I feel like a dummy.
That's fair.
Lychee.
And I have trouble explaining it.
Very like tropical. Yeah. Which doesn't help. How do you describe lychee taste like again? I feel like a dummy. No, that's fair. Lychee, and I have trouble explaining it.
Very like tropical, which doesn't help.
How do you describe lychee?
I've had it before, I know I have.
And I've had passion fruit.
Yeah, I don't know how to describe lychee.
Lychee is the weird little- The white meat?
Yeah, yeah, yes, okay, okay.
I always find things that are lychee flavored,
the flavor's very light and subtle.
It's not like a really strong fruity flavor. I think we've had lychee candies or very, the flavor is very light and subtle, it's not like a really strong fruity flavor.
I think we've had lychee candies on the podcast.
Very, very often, I mean, I'm looking for description,
but I've often, if I'm having lychee, it's like a jelly
or something that I'm adding, it's not like a lychee juice.
Maybe I get rid of lychee.
Pardon?
Maybe I get rid of lychee.
You would get rid of lychee?
Maybe, yeah.
Yeah, because you don't understand it.
Yeah, because I don't understand it. Yeah, because I don't understand it.
Xenophobic approach to this game.
I'm scared of it.
No, I'm just scared.
No, no, you're right.
Or passion fruit.
I mean, passion fruit is sometimes a little too much
for me too, so.
Yeah.
I can't get rid of mango as an Indian word.
I love mango.
Mango's delicious.
Mango's fantastic.
Peach, I think, for me, peach goes
because that's more of like a Southern American.
I don't see peach having any business in boba.
We do sell it.
We make a delicious peach smoothie at people's boba.
But I'm not, yeah, I'm not a peach girl.
We love our boba down here in Georgia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dear God.
The brown bouncy balls.
They're delicious. We're not even tired.
This is our first episode of the day.
Yeah.
And we were acting like we've done like,
1,500 calories a piece of fucking fried chicken.
We should be a little bit groggy.
Aw, you can kiss it.
We're doing good.
Yeah, no, it's the fried chicken.
Jemmy is licking Mitch's hand.
Cheesling.
Very cute.
So no, no, no, no, no consensus on that one,
but, but all right.
All right, next up, toppings.
Tapioca pearls, lychee jelly, grass jelly, and cheese foam.
Off the bat, grass jelly.
This is one of those things,
this is not good business advice.
But if I don't like something, I tend to not sell it.
And it doesn't matter how many people have asked me for grass jelly.
And it's a lot.
This is how I know this is bad business advice.
I still say, no, I won't fucking sell it.
I think it's so gross.
You don't believe in it though.
I understand that you coming from that perspective of just like,
if this isn't something that I have any interest in,
this is something that fits my palate something that I have any interest in,
this isn't something that fits my palate
that I can actually advocate for,
I maybe wouldn't want it on my menu.
I can understand that.
Thank you for understanding,
because a lot of people are like,
well, as long as people want it, you should give it to them.
But my argument against that is,
I don't think it suits any of the drinks that I sell.
In fact, it'll ruin a great drink by adding it.
So if I just eliminate that possibility of them adding it because they think it's fun or
cool and then hating their drink as a result, then you're welcome. What was the last one? Cheese cream?
Yeah, which is cheese foam. Cheese foam. I do like a cheese foam. It's made out of cream cheese. They foam cheese.
It's like a creamy cheese.
Yeah, and they put it on top of your drink and then you're meant to sip it instead of using your straw.
So every sip has a little cheese wing.
I didn't know that they did this. Yeah.
We got cheese and drink foam in form now?
I didn't know.
Yeah, I have a heart monitor on too.
I'm with you.
I am taking your advice here.
I am not, I am, what is it?
Grass gel, it doesn't even sound good.
No, does it taste like grass?
Kind of, yeah, kind of very earthyy and as someone who doesn't like matcha. Yeah, and also the texture
For some reason lychee jelly and boba is fine, but the grass jelly. It's like jello. So I do like lychee jelly
I'm keeping that am I fucking dumb or the tapioca pearls just Boba. That's Boba
But you can say tapioca pearls. It's interchangeable
But I'm just also like confused by the the terminology here because we're like we're doing Boba and then all of a sudden you're
Throwing tapioca pearls. This motherfucker looks like they're about to eat it like cereal. Yeah, it looks like that looks like I definitely don't do that
I definitely don't do that. Like it's caviar.
Ever.
I gotta have that.
I mean that's like that defines what boba is.
I'm keeping the lychee jelly.
I think I'm keeping the cheese foam.
So yeah, maybe I'll be with Tonsu.
I'll get rid of that grass jelly.
Can I make another argument for why it's,
why some people specifically say pearls?
It's because people will come and say, I want boba.
And they think all of these fall under the umbrella.
Ah, gotcha. But if you wanna be specific,
then that the boba you love and know is tapioca pearls.
Another question for Stinky.
Question for Stinky.
When a term becomes, like Kleenex becomes
like the universal term for something,
or like boba becomes a term for the beverage
as opposed to the pearls.
What do we call that, Stinky?
Let us know in the dose cord.
Next up, temperature.
Ooh. Ooh.
They all look iced.
Four temperatures.
Now I would argue,
I would maybe argue that these aren't all temperatures.
Not to give Amelia a note on the air.
Well, let's hear it.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Hot, there's a hot bath.
Iced, slushy, and smoothie. You know what?
These are different. She did it. She did a good job. Amelia, God bless you. I'll give props to her. This is all accurate.
I like having, look, I'm a hot bev guy. I like keeping, I like having a hot beverage. I got to
have a hot beverage situation. You know what's crazy to me is that of all these, the hot bev is the one that maybe would go for me.
Same, absolutely.
And we don't let you add boba to a hot drink.
Oh, I don't do that.
I would never put boba in a hot drink.
Oh, okay, well, they would here.
I think it's like a-
Yeah, this stock image seems to have it.
So wait, who is it?
You would never add it to a hot drink,
but you voted hot. You're gonna- No, I would get a fucking hot drink at a? So wait, who is it? You would never add it to a hot drink, but you voted hot drink.
You're gonna get a hot drink.
No, I would get a fucking hot drink at a boba place.
And not get boba in it.
But it's boba in it.
That's isn't the point of it.
But that's not what, I'm not having that.
I'm not having the mug of what it's,
that is what it's for.
So you're gonna get a fucking coffee at the boba place?
I might get like a hot Assam milk tea.
Yeah, I might do that.
That's not the fucking, this is not the exercise.
This is not what we're doing.
It's fine.
Oh my, I don't know if you guys remember
you fought in my last episode too, so I'm a little triggered. This is not what we're doing. I don't know if you guys remember you fought
my last episode too, so I'm a little triggered.
Did we really?
Yeah, we did at the top of the episode.
And then you were like, anyway,
time for our guest, Tatsu Phillip.
And I was like, let's do it.
Well, he's being a fucking idiot.
I'm being completely reasonable.
I'll have a cup of warm water.
That's like- That's not what I'm ordering.
But I'm saying that's what you can do you can get like a hot tea you serve hot drinks
You just don't put boba in correct. That's a that's what is an okay thing to do a boba place
I'm going to be able to Boba. I can't we're so much one of them have Boba. I know but that's not what I'm talking about
We're not don't get married to this just like hot drinks. I get you like don't think about the stock images
Think about the as the question the abstract. It doesn't make sense, folks.
I think our listeners will agree with me.
This doesn't make sense.
I'm getting rid of slushie.
I can get smooth.
You dumb fucker.
If I get hot iced and smoothie, I don't need the slushie.
You dumb fuck.
You get it now.
You get why you're such a dumb asshole.
The slushie is like a big boy between iced and smoothie.
This is crazy.
How dare you?
You got rid of a slushie?
I like a slushie, but I don't wanna,
I have the smoothie, I don't need the slushie as well
with the hot bev.
So you put, each one of them has fucking tapioca balls.
Girls, tapioca pearls, boba.
First off, you're confounding our audience
by fixating on the image.
Don't think about the image.
Well, too bad they should switch over to fucking YouTube.
Don't think about the image.
Think about the idea of a hot beverage.
And yes, in that context,
I maybe don't want a hot beverage with boba in it,
but I want a hot beverage as an option.
But isn't this boba edition of this game?
You just want me to agree with you
instead of saying that maybe I have a different opinion.
No, keep your bullshit picks, slushies.
Can I ask the difference
between a smoothie and a slushie?
Is it just ice?
Yes, thank you for asking. A smoothie has dairy in it, and a slushy. Is it just ice? Yes. Thank you for asking
The smoothie has dairy in it and a slushy is made with water or lemonade. Oh, okay. Excuse me or tea
Maybe I get a smoothie then. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no now you want to backtrack
I'm keeping hot. I'm not going back on hot
Guy who's very proud of how smart he is. You're fucking dipshit. You're a fucking idiot
I'm sorry to tell you guys you're making the chicken come up. I
Know all these words my co-host is a dumb guy. You're dumb right now. I'm being dumb. I'm being reasonable
Can't get a ride home?
I walk here with sus.
We'll continue this fight in the car.
Hot is, hot's gotta stay for as far as I'm concerned,
but it's gotta go from Mitch and Tuncy.
Next up, milk options, whole, oat,
almond or lactose free creamer.
I'll start this one, please
Maybe I'll get yelled at again. I don't fucking care. Oh you don't
Almond milk must be banished wigs. I agree. Wow
Mean you were such you were truly went you went to new depths of dipshit ness in the last one
But here you are on your you are you're you're you're right. Yeah. No. Who cares about almond breeze? Almond milk sucks. Almond milk sucks.
It's also like so bad for the environment. That's the other thing. It's like the most
wasteful of any of the milk alternatives to produce. That's why we don't sell it at Viva
Le Pouf. You don't sell it. Wow. Because of environmental reasons. Wow. Also just like...
Also it sucks. It's watery and bullshit. Yeah. I don't like it. I prefer oat milk. Yeah I agree wags good call. I'm glad we could agree because before I mean you can say you could be sexist
You could be racist but hot
We know when to draw here's a crazy thing he is sexist and he is racist But then also he did this same thing. He hates out on me as a guest. Which for me.
His worst nightmare.
Which for me.
And she's brown.
For me, finally, he only crossed the line
with the hot beverage thing.
I was fine with everything else.
I was curious about white racism,
and now I know how it works.
Beverage temperature. I agree on milk.
Next up, sweetness level.
Oh, wow.
These are great questions.
Shout out to Amelia.
No sweets, 25% sweet, 50% sweet, full sweet.
This is very funny too.
The percentage of sweet I've never thought of, but I do like it.
That's a real thing.
There's also, you could go 75 sometimes too,
but that's not an option here.
Ooh boy.
75 is like a pussy answer.
If someone tells me, it'd be them, they do.
I want 75% sweet, just fucking commit.
Just go all the way.
Go all the way.
In that spirit, I'm gonna excise 50 here.
I think 50 is a single item that must be banished.
I like having the zero sweet as an option,
again, especially with the hot bev. I like having the zero sweet as an option, again, especially with the hot bev.
I like having 25% sweet because that's just like, I'm giving myself a little quarter treat,
like just a little bit treat, but I also want to go full treat at times.
So I'll keep the 100%.
Even though sometimes 100% can be really, really sweet, but sometimes that's what I
want.
I'm going to get rid of 25%.
I don't know.
A little touch is good.
You're right.
It's nice to have a little touch.
Put that above the tramp stamp.
Have a little touch, buddy.
It's nice to have a little touch.
I think maybe though, maybe Mitch, maybe you're right.
Maybe we, maybe when we get rid of-
Is 50% for guys like us, is that like a little,
does that feel more like a 25%
yeah and I believe it maybe if you want to keep three you want zero fifty and
100 and what you get rid of is the uncar plot the one quarter portion
great cheeseling was an episode 9 they cut cut him, yeah, but he's in there. It's a deleted Cheesling scene.
I'm taking out 100% by the way.
Why are you taking 100%?
It's almost never, unless I'm, no, even at Viva,
I recommend the dressing, the sweetness,
100% is always too much for me.
But also, I don't fuck with the 0% people,
go somewhere else.
0% I'm not, I almost got rid of 0% But then I don't know it should stay over a hundred
But I do occasionally like a very sweet drink wags, you know this about yeah, so I don't know
This is this is the hardest one for me. You know what? I think I might just do 050 or 100
Yeah, I think I think the plot is the one to go. Let's go to go. Yeah. Sorry plug. All right
He's got the Millennium Falcon. He's fine. Yeah, that's, I forgot.
Oh no, Ray, oh, Mitch, Ray's in the Millennium Falcon.
Oh my God.
Oh my God, Unkar Plut's beloved Millennium Falcon
is being piloted by Ray.
Oh my God, he must be so,
the backstory between those two.
Can you imagine what he must be doing
if he sees Ray piloting his Millennium Falcon?
I think he's probably saying something like how it belongs to him.
He might be saying, that's mine!
That's probably what he's doing.
Is the Kool-Aid man in Star Wars?
I mean, kind of.
Kind of, yes.
It's like a worse character than the Kool-Aid man, but he's in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's there.
I should watch it.
You sold me.
Watch Star Wars. If you're gonna watch a Star Wars movie, watch the movie titled Star Wars.
There we go.
I would watch Star Wars. I think that, I think that's the best place for anyone to
start. Yeah.
You've seen both Dunes, he said.
Yeah, unfortunately.
I will say as a Dune watcher, you will see the bones of Dune in Star Wars.
It influenced the original Star Wars very much so.
That probably makes it better, right?
Than Dune.
Dune.
Dune.
Trump and, I mean, just like the idea of Trump and Biden
riding sand worms is very fun.
It just is fun.
It would be fun to see.
And by like Trump making fun of Biden's sandworm.
It just seems, it's a fun thing to think about.
And your friend.
RFK Jr. has one in his brain.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
That was good and topical.
Ha ha ha.
All right, one's gonna go straw color.
Straw color.
Green, blue, yellow, pink.
Wait, what straw colors do you have at Viva La Bova?
We have biodegradable straws made out of sugar cane.
So they are all tan.
Wow, I love that.
Thank you.
So all of these are offensive to me.
I get it, but most offensive is yellow.
Yeah, I agree.
Gotta go.
I guess let's get rid of yellow.
Why is purple?
You like, purple is fun, we've established.
Yeah, well, I think it's supposed, this is actually pink, but you like purple is fun. We've established. Yeah, what I think it's but this is actually pink
But that looks purple. Oh, sorry
Yeah, that's a great point and it doesn't drink
Aesthetically at least like if you have a taro if you have grimaces sperm, then you have grimaces dick with a purple straw
Like you're sucking grimaces little skinny day
Skinny day. It's like the skinny dick and getting a bunch of...
This is a huge nut sack.
Ew, Grimace.
I thought Marty was going to come over,
Marty from Headgum, and close the curtains on us.
Um, I, uh...
Yellow is piss-colored purple.
You made a good point with the Grimace. For me, it's piss colored purple.
You made a good point with the grimace.
For me, I like blue and white, it's green, Celtic screen.
Oh, that's cute.
Thank you.
I can make you like a green Celtic strength.
Hell yeah.
With the mint, you know?
Would have been nice to have it today.
It would have been cool to,
maybe we could have a Lakers one too.
Hey, that was a single item must be banished.
Just like a restaurant, value your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And we have a voicemail today. Hey, that was a single item must be banished. Just like a restaurant, value your feedback.
Let's open up the feedback.
And we have a voicemail today.
Emma, if we wanna get this one.
Wow.
I do, just give me one second to switch over to that.
What would be in the green drink?
Let's talk about it.
What are some green things you like?
Do you like mint?
See, here's the issue.
I don't like, like I like mint chocolate chip ice cream,
but I'm not like a huge mint
flavored guy
Interesting how about honeydew?
Honeydew is a good one. Honeydew smoothie. I love it. You can't have one because you eliminated smoothies
Well, I don't know you that means for my life those three
You can have a hot honey lemon fucking a honey honeydew drink. With extra boba.
With extra boba.
No, I don't want to put it in a hot drink.
I can still eat a smoothie.
I was just saying like if I had to eliminate one.
No, you drink a smoothie.
God, Wider!
Jesus!
Jesus.
I can have a smoothie, people know that means drink.
No, I'm just kidding.
Okay.
How does it trouble you?
When people start bullying, I like side with the
bully. I think it's a great survival. Yeah, survival is great self-perceivation. You know,
yeah, I'll see you have as a green drink. Freaking Kermit's come. I should do a series.
Grimace's birth. Kermit's come. Are you making fun of me because I said Grimace's?
What, like, Kermit shoot a freaking load in here?
It's the color of his skin.
That's how cum works.
You make these jokes too.
You can't make it that I do these jokes in the podcast
and you don't.
What, and Michelangelo from the Ninja Turtles
bust a fucking nut in my cup?
What was the question? I guess any of the Ninja Turtles.
Yeah, let's hear the question.
Here comes the voicemail.
Hi, this is Mark. I live in Florida.
I've been listening to all your episodes from the beginning.
I just listened to the Papa John's 2 with Riza.
My first job was with Papa John's.
Wow.
And I don't know if you guys have ever mentioned it
But they put all their toppings underneath the pizza except for a couple of them, which I think is kind of interesting
Let me under the cheese under the cheese. How many toppings do you think are too many toppings on a pizza if there is such a thing?
Wow, great question mark. Yes, that just cuts off. Yeah, he said how
Wow, great question, Mark. Was that it just cuts off?
He said how...
He got caught leaving the voicemail.
He said put their toppings underneath the pizza.
Significant others are like,
what the fuck are you doing?
I'm on call from the hospital.
Put the phone down.
The question is how many toppings
is too many on a pizza?
Mark phrased it as Papa John's puts their toppings underneath the pizza.
Obviously that's not there. Not underneath the crust.
It means underneath the layer of cheese.
I think a lot of...
Under the cheese.
I felt bad singing that.
Sebastian is a Jamaican crab. I felt bad.
Oh, can you do it again?
No.
I missed it. Under the cheese is what I said.
But now I felt self-conscious about it.
I think you're okay.
It's a cartoon voice.
Yeah, yeah.
Good, good, good.
I did not notice that with Papa John's anytime we've gotten it.
Same.
That's interesting.
That's news to me.
I had no idea.
I think Round Table Pizza does that too, at least with some of their toppings.
I've definitely encountered places that have like a layer of pepperoni
and then the cheese on top of it.
Like, I feel like that's a thing I'll run into.
But as far as how many toppings
are the right number of toppings for a pizza,
I think, I don't think you wanna go more than three
unless you're going full like combo.
If you're getting like a Supreme pizza,
that's its own thing.
Or if you're getting like, I wanna go,
I'm gonna go hard in one direction.
I'm gonna get the Supreme, I'm gonna get the combo, I'm going to go hard in one direction. I'm going to get the supreme. I'm going to get the combo. I'm going to get like a veggie lovers.
I'm going to get a meat lovers. That's a whole thing where the approach is more is more. We're
just going to throw in as many things as we have. But I think as far as a general execution,
no toppings is sometimes the right answer. I don't think you want to go more than three.
I'm a cheese pizza guy. So I say no toppings, but no more than three is probably right. I'm a cheese pizza guy so I say no toppings but no more than three
is probably right. I feel like two is almost already like I'll do pepperoni and
onion or I'll do sausage and green peppers and sometimes onions too. I think
three is three is great yeah but I mean everyone will have a slice of supreme
pizza sometimes and like it. Sometimes you want that it's not a hard and fast
rule but I think generally like hey, I'm gonna construct a pizza
I'm once you start going beyond three it's now your Nunga Pachkateri
All right
Now it's like when you're at Chipotle and you get like too many things on your fucking bowl and that's just a big mush
You know, okay. I'm glad you met. I don't know if I'm allowed to answer this question. Of course
I am glad you brought up Chipotle because I think the answer depends on the kind of pizza you're getting.
If it's a personal build your own pizza, then I think it makes more sense to get
more toppings, if anything, to feel like you're getting your money's worth,
because it's the same price regardless.
But.
Did you think also we weren't going to let you answer this question at all?
I just didn't want to out of place be like, well, my two cents, Mike in Florida.
You know?
My two cents, Mike in Florida, was that his name?
Mark.
Mark in Florida is, if it's, I'm a cheese pizza girl,
if I'm gonna do a topping, I would just do one.
And I think, I don't wanna fight.
I think a combo is crazy.
Do you want any pizza with your toppings?
Wow.
I like that.
A combo is crazy.
I've never taken a bite of a supreme pizza and been like, thank god
There's 40 vegetables and meats in here
I think I could be fine with look if we were if we're putting a fucking
We're doing this exercise with pizza and supreme is on there. I might be saying this previous segment
I might be saying the single item must be excised is that the supreme cuz yeah, it's not a thing
I think it has its time in place, but it's not a thing I'm craving generally.
The thing to me that's always funny is that people are like,
ugh, you just like cheese pizza?
And I'm like, that means you don't like pizza.
Because if you're like, ugh, cheese pizza is so boring and nothing to me,
I'm like, it means you don't like pizza.
It's like vanilla.
Vanilla is a flavor, you know?
It's not plain.
A cheese pizza is not a plain slice,
even though people call it a plain slice. I like vanilla. Yeah, vanilla is great. Vanilla is a flavor, you know, it's not plain. A cheese pizza is not a plain slice, even though people call it a plain slice.
I like vanilla. That's pizza.
Yeah, vanilla's great.
Vanilla is good, but cheese pizza is.
It's an exotic bean.
Cheese pizza's great too.
I love cheese pizza.
My boyfriend once stole real vanilla from Sprouts.
Whoa. Wow.
And he's not like a thief.
I don't know what came over him.
He's gonna be so mad I said this on the podcast.
But then I felt so guilty that it was stolen vanilla
that I never used it.
Wow.
That's good, I think that's the right move.
Thank you, and it just expired.
But if Sprouts is listening to this, I didn't steal it.
The white guy I'm dating.
Not me, there's a difference.
Yeah, but vanilla made me think that,
so well actually now anytime I think of vanilla, I'm taken to that dark place of like, is
this who we are now?
Yeah.
I mean, I usually think stealing from a grocery store is a victimless crime.
There's so much stuff that could stay in the trash.
Whoa.
I don't know.
No, I'm a good girl, guys.
I don't steal anything.
I've never, I can't even take a piece of candy.
Are you trying to promote stealing from grocery stores? I might might not steal from a sprouts, but stealing from a Whole Foods
I mean come on steal from a fucking Whole Foods. It gives a shit wait. What's the difference between?
I don't know probably there is no difference
So I'd say like yes stealing from a grocery store is a victimless crime
But I think there's probably when you see something that's owned by Amazon to me
That's a little bit more onerous, and I have a little bit less guilt about
They're like hey whoever was working this shift,
there's stuff missing, you're fired?
Yeah, that's a problem if the whole stop loss side of things
is going after somebody.
That's a good point.
Oh fuck, I can't go back into this place, guys.
I did so much emotional work.
I think you're fine.
Thank you.
What Apollonia is the other day, by the way,
to speak on pizza, they have square pizza
and they're like, the guy behind the counter was like,
vodka sauce is my favorite one.
And I, but the most popular one is the pepperoni's burrata
in hot honey.
Oh yeah.
And it is fantastic.
Here's my thought though.
I thought it was great.
And it's like one of the only times,
I don't need hot honey on a pizza.
I agree with you.
And by the way, Apollonia's is great.
Everyone should check it out.
It's a great pizza place.
A great, great pizza.
But hot honey, I don't know if I need,
it's all the rage wags,
and I don't know if I need hot honey on a pizza.
There's a few different places I've had it at.
One called the Dough Room, one called Roberta's,
which is a Brooklyn chain that has moved out here.
Yeah, and I feel like that,
and I think that Roberta's actually took it off their menu because I think the hot honey has gotten a little bit overplayed
I think it's a little trendy eight years ago. So I'm surprised they're still doing it if they are. Yeah
I don't know. I like hot honey. Yeah, maybe on a pizza. Maybe I don't need it. I don't know if it'd be okay
For me hot honey is like an afterthought. I almost never think I want, it's almost like,
oh, I'll get it, I guess if it's there,
but I'm never like, this would be better with hot honey.
Yeah, same, yeah.
The only hot honey I need is my wife.
Aw.
Wow, in the end you're like Al Pacino.
I look at my wife and I say, that's mine.
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I'll have the new gordita and two of the nacho fries.
Has anyone ever ordered just a black bean side?
Sorry, I'm getting off track.
One more thing for those fries, the dipping sauce.
Oh, I'm asking, Mitchie. Cheese, cheese, cheese, for nacho fries.
And please, please, please, don't bring me hot sauce when I already have thirty-five.
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Cheese, cheese, cheese
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