Doughboys - BJ’s with Sean Clements & Hayes Davenport

Episode Date: February 10, 2017

Hollywood Handbook hosts Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport return to discuss BJ’s Restaurant & Brewhouse, the Chicago style pizzeria and brewpub that traces its origins to Orange County, California. Will Israeli mini burger chain Burgerim also be discussed?Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tijuana Bible That was the term for a type of short publication of cartoon pornography that originated in the US during the 1920s and peaked in popularity during the Great Depression. Named because of an inaccurate rumor that they were published in the Mexican border town with a seedy reputation, the compact comics included lewd drawings of popular characters like Betty Boop and Wimpy from Popeye, as well as celebrities like boxer Joe Lewis and actress Mae West engaged in graphic sex acts, again to the porn parody films of the modern era.

In 1948, a Tijuana Bible defaming communist spy Alger Hiss included the first recorded usage of the term, Blowjob. Blow had been codified as slang for bringing another person to orgasm centuries earlier, but it was the industrious spirit of 20th century America that converted the sex act into work. Andy Warhol would later make an experimental art film called Blowjob, and the term became an awkward topic of family conversation during the Monica Lewinsky scandal of the Bill Clinton administration.

Cut to 1978, when two business partners in Orange County, California founded a sit-down restaurant with the goal of putting a different kind of pee in your mouth. Pizza. Their Chicago-style deep dish recipe Rare on the West Coast was a hit, and they soon expanded their menu and began brewing their own beer and their signature dessert, the bazookie. The initials that gave the company its name are of unclear origin, but their association with the oral sex act is almost certainly unintentional.

Nevertheless, now with 170 locations, the pizzeria's accidental double entendre of a brand serves as a source of amusement for body dads and snickering teens alike. This week on Doughboys, BJs. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger. This week's roast is courtesy of Chad Alderman. Please welcome my co-host, Whitey Bulging, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Hi, Mitch.

How are you? So, Whitey Bulging about fat. Yes, right. Huh. Every joke is about how I'm fat. It makes me start to feel like I am fat. They're not all about you being fat. There's some about you being dumb.

That's true. Which makes me more, I think, more, I get angry. I get legit angry at those ones. Right. Anyway, how you doing, Nick? I'm okay. I've been tired at a long day, but, Mitch, I know that there's something we should address right at top.

You're a New England Patriots. That's right. Won the Super Bowl this Sunday in amazing fashion, one of the greatest games in NFL history. I didn't watch. I don't watch the NFL. I like to be very smug about it, the fact that I don't watch the NFL due to CTE, and associated ailments that people get from playing this game, just blood sport. But I am very happy for you on behalf of your team.

What are your thoughts in the Tom Brady's fifth championship in the Billa Chick era? Pretty impressive. I'll just keep it short, because no one likes it or me doing this ever. A lot of controversy about the Pats franchise these days. There is, but you know what? Everyone, just, you need to settle down. It's a separate thing. You know what?

The world isn't like Harry Potter, and the Patriots winning isn't like the election. It's all these things that we're making up this weird narrative that it's like this good versus evil all the time. It's just stupid. It's just a football game. It was just a football game. Who cares? You got to relax about it.

There was nothing bigger than that. Now I think you're going too far in the direction of downplaying it, because you were legitimately excited. The city of Boston was legitimately pretty happy about this championship. For me, I mean, there are other factors that play, and that made me very, I mean, it was hard to enjoy it, because they were losing for so, they were losing for the majority of the game until the, and then the last quarter was basically where all the excitement for me happened, but I mean, I loved it.

Brady is the best ever, Belichick is the best coach ever, and that's all I care about. That's all I want to talk about. That's it. I don't want to talk about anything else. The parallels to politics or to pop culture, you can take them or leave them. You can take them. Yes. Get them out of here.

Is that fair enough to say I just, he's the best. He brought them. That comeback is insane. People who question him forever, he shut Goodell up, he shut ESPN up. People who don't understand sports are these idiots who say stuff, so I just don't care. All right. Is that bad? It's a fine take.

Okay. I think it's a perfectly acceptable take. Yeah. Do you have a dumb drop to play? I do. Anyhow to Spoon Nation, and here is my drop. It's fun to think about when we were all go boys going off to war. Guys like us, who we kill for that sort of flexibility.

With that kind of flexibility, I don't think I'd ever leave the house. What do you mean? If he fucked me good, I'd take his ass completely stiff. I'd see that boy and become a man. Nick White girl. Mike Mitchell. Dough boys. A little shout out.

You know what? It was the first thing in my email. So you had no idea this was at a connection with tonight's guest or today's guest. It's at Holly Boy's Dough Book. Okay. So you could kind of put two together. And it was Travis Bursik. Okay.

Thanks Travis. At Travis Bursik. Thank you Travis. What a fun little drop. A lot of fun. And hey, on that note. Let's introduce them. Let's get our guests in here.

Let's get our guests in here. Let's get their opinions on the Patriots too. Let's welcome them into the studio. You know them as the hosts of the great podcast Hollywood Handbook on Ear Wolf, Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport are back in studio. Hi guys. Hi guys. Welcome back.

You're members of the Spoonerster Six. I forgot to play My Dumb Drop, which is a little bit of Spider-Man's A Freak Like Meanings Company on David Letterman. I'll just give people a little taste of that. Always the same little segment that you play. Right. But you know what, I'm turning the Spoonerster Six on its head because this is six. So we're done.

So this cleans us up. They're really turning it on its head. It's fulfilling your promise. I'm turning it on its head by completely cleaning it. So we're done with the Spoonerster Six. No, there will be one more guest. So we're going to have an additional member of the Spoonerster Six. It will be the Spoonerster Seven.

Okay. And with me it's eight. That holds true to what the man is saying in the song, which is why settle for one villain when you could have seven. But the thing is, he is the great goblin, he's including himself, so in this case himself. I know. Mitch wouldn't be the seventh member, but he's not saying that. You're saying there's a seventh member in addition.

Yeah, so there'll be eight. There'll be eight. Okay. There were a lot of incarnations of the Sinister Six. There are plenty of characters to bring on. It's how much legs a spider has, and it's Spider-Man too. That's true. Maybe you should rename your group the Eight-Legged Freaks.

Hell yeah. Do we get assigned a supervillain that we are for this? We have, but are there any twosome villains? I don't know. I don't know the Spider-Man mythos at all really. I'd like to be Wolverine if possible. Oh, hold on a second. He is a hero.

He's, yeah. I'm sure he turned bad at some point. I've got those claws. Are you sure, Mitch? Old Man Logan. You want to be Old Man Logan in the girl? Look at the size of those claws. Old Man Logan and the little girl.

Haze is the little girl with powers. She's like you, Logan. You could be the bad version of Wolverine, which in the Wario Mario logic would be Mulverine. Mulverine. Okay. Dude, I used to have an Wolverine comic when he had the bone claws before he got the Adamantium put on. Hold on a second. Like it's so old that it was the bone claws?

That it's straight up bone coming out. So okay, so this came up on the Bobby Lee episode a little bit. Before he swiped an X. I didn't realize that he had bone claws at any point. I always thought he had the healing factor and they installed Adamantium claws as like a thing to do. Wait, absolutely. This came up on your last episode? Yeah, it did too.

Yeah, amazingly some dumb nervy shit came up on our stupid podcast. That's crazy to me. I literally just remembered it. Okay. And he at one point in one of the X-Men movies, he goes back in time and he has the bone claws. He goes to the Weapon X facility. But that doesn't make any sense. I thought it was that they put the claws in, so how could he just push?

It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense. It's very confusing. There's also two, like the Raimi Spider-Man versus the Spider-Man comic. And the Raimi Spider-Man, he has the web thing in like his veins. He shoots it out of his veins. But then in the comic, he like creates the web thing, which is amazing. That's like an amazing thing that he has.

That's why he's the amazing Spider-Man. But it makes him a loser if he's like building this whole... Right. He makes his powers less impressive. You like the fact that he built the webbing gun? I like it the fact that he has it in his veins in the Raimi one. I'm with you. I like that too.

I like that too. I like the Raimi Spider-Man. That's more amazing. Yeah. I like it. It's hard for me to talk about Sam's a friend. Oh my God. That's what you worked on.

Ash versus Evil Dead. Ash versus Evil Dead. Oh boy. Sam and I got to know each other. You did some great stuff. I really liked that. The stuff you did on that season there, it was great stuff. It was really good.

Thanks. Yeah. I can't take all the credit, but I'll take as much as you give me. I'm giving you it all. You get everything. The whole kit and kaboodle, huh? Well, so hold on. You're Mulvoreen.

I'm Mulvoreen. You're Mulvoreen. Hey, what do you want to be? You can be anything you want. Who's taken? I don't. We haven't made any decisions. This is all our trade.

We won't map it out before. Hag are the horrible. We can be bad guys. I'll be Scar. Okay. Scar from Lightning. Scar from Lightning. Great.

Perfect. All right. So we've got Mulvoreen who doesn't exist. Scar was the original hater. Scar who's right. I mean, truly. Right. He's just a hater.

He's jealous. The original hater. It's true. In a way, all the Disney villains are haters when it comes right down to it. That's right. I think that was the first time that jealousy had been represented on screen. Yeah. What about Mirror, Mirror on the Wall?

Who's the fairest of them all, huh? That Queen in Snow White was pretty, she was a hater. She was a true hater. Ursula? Oh, that's an old school hater. Ursula was very jealous of the little mermaid. What the hell is going on here? Ursula is a hater.

She's a definite hater. She's a definite hater. You look stupid. No, I'm not trying to cut anyone down to size. The whole thing is just like, hey, Sean, can you do the show tomorrow? I know it's late notice, but I want to fucking rake you over the cold. Weigar and I just went to Tamo Shanter, one of my favorite spots in all of LA. A real food.

I love it. A classic. And you can see, and there's the Walt Disney Table, and at the Walt Disney Table, there's a little, they carved, they made little carvings into the table of a couple cartoon characters. Nothing that you would know, but kind of like the Imagineers of that time, some of the original Imagineers, they carved some early drawings into the table. Nothing I would know. I think that they were all dead when Beauty and the Beast was drawn.

There is maybe a flower, but there's nothing cool. But there is a picture at the front of it with, that Disney drew, is that right, or someone at the Disney Studios drew of the table? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know specifically what the origin of that is, but there's a lot of history. It's a lot of history. It's a restaurant that feels like Disney in a lot of ways. Walt Disney kind of stole some aesthetic choices from the restaurant and then used them in parts

of Disney. It kind of feels like you're eating at a restaurant in the Matterhorn. I actually think, I think this might, I'm not positive this is correct, but I think it is correct, is that the house, the Seven Dwarves house in Snow White in the Seven Dwarves was either based after Tamer Shanta or Tamer Shanta was designed after that. Oh wow, okay. I think that's true. Oh wow.

It's nice that you guys go out to eat outside of the show. Yeah, I would think that the thrill would be taken away, you know, it became your job sort of. Oh no, I'm glad you still enjoy it. Or maybe you're just now kind of meeting each other as friends in a way, but you did business colleagues all this time, but then it's like really getting to know each other. I think that meeting was about breaking up the podcast, if I remember correctly. We were definitely there, it was the two of us in front of the podcast, Evan Susser,

and we were definitely commiserating over something that had fallen apart. Yes. So that we can talk about in vague terms. So yeah, it was definitely like, okay, well we have this failure that we've encountered, and as we usually do, we are going to deal with that by eating a bunch of shitty food and feeling worse, but. And you know Susser got some gravy on himself. Oh, he's a mess.

How are you guys doing? You guys are Pat's fans, right? We're talking about this a little bit, Edgar. Yeah, I'm from New England, and I root for the team that I grew up on. Right. And there's nothing more than that for God's sake. And like, why are you an NBA guy? Oh boy, yeah, for sure.

Michael Jordan. There's nobody worse, there's no worse guy in sports, or yeah, in the history of humanity than Michael Jordan. Right. But I think when you were like growing up in that era, you had to enjoy that you were like able to watch him in his prime and all that, even though he was a monster. Yeah, you were kind of, I mean, you're viewing them through a child's eyes, but yeah, you certainly know this guy.

And nobody knew then, and it's also not fair because nobody knew at the time. If you were playing today. There's no Twitter. Yeah. Well, this is a whole thing. Sure, there was no Twitter. Yeah. Sean's kind of a cultural theorist about this stuff.

If Jordan had played in the time of Twitter, the number of negative hashtags that would have been, you know, he would have carried on his shoulders in that, you know, thin jersey, he would have won maybe a one championship or maybe none. I agree. See, I think Jordan actually draws power from his haters. We have no evidence of that. Well, it seems like when he's encountered with negative energy on the basketball court and when someone challenges him, he takes, it makes it a point to like emasculate them

and prove that like, I'm better than you and I'm not afraid of you. Like that's a, that's how I see Jordan. No. And if you watch his like Hall of Fame induction speech, it's just a lot of gratitude. Okay. And he just says, you know, thanks for the support along the way. And that's what made me want to be good. I didn't want to let anybody down.

Sean, I know you're, you're being, you're having some fun here, but famously in MJ's Hall of Fame speech, he like belittles his opponent. 20 minute list of people he hates. He just like basically reads a list of grievances. It's like Nixon reading his enemies list. He's just going through everyone who's ever wronged him, including his own sons. At one point, he talks about how his sons will never live up to him. It's very, very.

Mitch, I'll put this reference into your terms. It's like that scene in half baked where Jim Brewer quits. That's what I've become. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. Well, I just want to stick up for monsters for a second here. Not all monsters are bad.

I watched a monster calls recently. What are you sticking up for monsters in the abstract? Yes. Well, shouldn't that be you call a monster a folklore? Do you think it should be you call a monster? Yeah, it should be you call a monster. My impression with trailers, he calls a monster. He's seen the movie.

No, but I've seen the trailer. Well, I'll say this, I don't want to spoil anything, but there are no phones involved at all, so there's no real actual physical call. All right. He maybe summons a monster through it. He summons a monster. He calls a monster. Unless the monster is like a gentleman caller sort of.

Like, is that the phrasing? They don't go on dates. You know what? I actually enjoyed this. It was one of this last movie here. It was one of my favorites. You really liked the monster calls. I liked the monster calls.

It was like in my top 10 or whatever. What's that? I'm sorry. Did you keep it together? Did you lose it? I cried. I've dealt with stuff that's in the movie, so I don't want to spoil anything. I hate spoilers, so spoiler alert.

Bullies. The bullies made me cry. Bullies, haters, like Scar over here. Oh boy. I'm just pretending to be Scar for a minute. I'm not actually like Scar. The wicked stepsisters were kind of haters. Oh my god.

Very jealous of Cinderella. You roll your eyes at me for defending monsters in the abstract. And then you talk about how the Cinderella stepsisters are haters. I just think there's a, I think it's a common, I wasn't trying to undermine the point that saying that, I wasn't trying to undermine the point of labeling Scar as a hater. I was just saying that haters are more universal in all of the Disney films. You know what? I know you too well, and I feel bad for Natalie because now I know you're going to go on a

movie where you watch all the Disney animated movies. Is the hater in Finding Nemo the current? Good point. Is there a hater in that film? It sets up like the sharks are going to be haters, but then the sharks have a face turn and that's a lot of fun. Stop saying haters. I've never heard you say it ever until now.

Well, I got haters on the brain. Why? Because Shawn brought it up. Okay, because of Brady. No, not because of Brady. Shawn talked about how Scar was the original hater. The original hater. Yeah.

Wiger, what's your stance on, well first of all, I want to ask them about their Oscar predictions because we start talking about a Monster Calls. Oh, right, okay. I think a Monster Calls is going to take it. Oh yeah, you think that's number one? I think that's going to be one of them. Bringing home the hardware. Monster Calls, that's my pick to bring home the hardware.

I haven't seen it, but I talked to Mitch about it earlier in this podcast and it sounds good. And I don't think it's nominated. It's not nominated. I don't think in any category, possibly, but it's going to bring home the hardware, you know, at the end of the day. Okay. What it's all said and done. Do you guys have some Oscar predictions?

Oh, thank you. Let's hear them. People will be mad. Uh-oh. That's what's going to happen. Oh yes, okay. The general prediction. It's the same as the tweets during the Super Bowl, just checking on people going,

What? Yeah, right. No. That's what's going to happen. You can't do that. Watch it. Here's a prediction. Someone is going to do some sort of speech.

That'll be a little annoying, but the narrative afterwards will be like, they shut this person down. Like it'll be like, like, equivalent to how Meryl Streep gave that speech and it was like, Meryl Streep shuts Donald Trump down. Yeah. There's something like that will happen. Someone will shut someone down and then you'll actually watch it and be like, alright, calm down.

I remember Aziz ended racism at the James Franco rose. Right, right. He's like, guys, what are we doing here? You're like making fun of me. What happened to being nice at a rose? I remember it was like, you know what, he's kind of right. They were like, yeah, he shut him down. I guess the main point of all this is that the internet is bad.

It's turned our world into garbage, I would say, right? Is that fair to say? Yeah, I mean, it's provided a distribution network for this podcast, which has definitely done damage to the world. That's not a good thing. No, it's not. It's a sink for our time. It's not something we should be doing.

We should be doing better things with our time. And then certainly our listeners are wasting their time even more than we're wasting our own time on our guest time. Okay, well, hold on. They did nothing wrong. No, they did nothing wrong. I'm just saying that this is like, there are definitely better things you could do at your time.

And I treasure everyone who listens to this podcast. Our fans are lovely people, a lot of great people who I think probably could be spending these hours doing something else. You should pull a – Like reading the works of Tolstoy or watching some classic films. You should pull a cable guy and jump onto the feral audio antenna. You think this is broadcast via an antenna? Jump onto the feral audio antenna and then people will put down the podcast.

They'll throw away – they'll get off the internet and they'll go and enjoy their lives. Technology has progressed since the days of UHF. Like we're not – Favorite cable guy ever. I think he also thinks he'll be able to talk into the antenna and project that out to all the listeners. I think the world would be better without the internet.

I really do. Here's an Oscars question for you. Okay, that's a change of subject. What do you guys do for Oscars viewing? Yeah. Do you have some sort of like – is it like a Super Bowl party for you? Do you have some sort of favorite snack, some sort of meal you get in front of you? Also, you know what?

At the same time, did you guys have any nice snacks for the Super Bowl? Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. Arts and Snack Grounds. Yeah. Oh, I had some snacks at the Super Bowl. Nice.

So, we got some chicken wings from a place called the Bun Shop. Have you been? I have not been. So, the Bun Shop used to be a food truck. It's like those like bow buns, you know, the very doughy – I think of it like a fancy taco. Yes. That's a way to –

And so, I go there often for the buns. It's very convenient for me. But I hadn't really had the wings before. Friend of the show, John Gabriel told me they were very good. Love Gabriel. Love him. He's good. He's a great dude.

I'm here now. All right. We love Gabriel though. You've made that clear. So, we got the wings and he was right. Okay. It sounded like that story was kind of just getting going. You want to keep –

I was about to come in because last time you were upset that you had told the story too long about your proposing marriage. Yeah. That was a great story. Do you want to repeat the story for – Nah, nah, nah. Wait, so – Oh, I liked it.

Did you have – did you have any rub on these wings, a dry rub, a lump of sauce? You know, it comes with like a sort of hot and sweet sauce. Okay. And yeah, they're more like almost like a honey glaze wing with just a little bit of kick. And it was good. Interesting. You also – you were – well, I'll quickly go into the Super Bowl food.

I like kind of wings and calzone like nachos or – I was talking with Jack Allison. I really like dips. Yeah. Jack and I both like dips. We got a ranch dip. We got a sour cream dip. You can go dip crazy on the Super Bowl and that's a great day to do it. You can try every dip you want.

It used to be a big bean dip guy. Oh, what happened? Love a good bean dip. I just don't get – I don't have snacks while I watch TV as much anymore. Not even for the Super Bowl? Oh, you don't watch the Super Bowl? I don't watch the Super Bowl. How about the NBA finals?

I guess it just feels different with the finals. Yeah, because the games are usually at night. There's occasional weekend game, but it's not as much of a big food watching event. There's at least four of them, yeah. Right. Yeah, I'll maybe get like a meal during it, but usually – What was the dip I used to eat, Mitch? Is it hell of a good dip or whatever?

Yes, it was. Hell of a good dip. The hell of a good French onion dip with some Fritos. That was my favorite, too. That was my favorite, too. I used to get involved. But with cheddar and sour cream ruffles, that was my favorite. Is that a brand?

Hell of a good? Yeah. Hell of a heck of a hell of a – I think it was hell of a dip or hell of a good dip or something. Do you know it's kind of like a dip that a lot of people in the Northeast eat? I don't see it as much out here, but you guys will know this. It's the cream cheese salsa and then cheese on top of it, you bake it. Yeah, that's a lot of fun.

That dip is – it's a great – it's like a great – I don't know if there's a name that – I don't have a name for that. I don't have a name for it, either. There's – I mean, there's got to be a name for it. Yeah. Weiger? No? I think it's called cultural appropriation.

Oh, my God. God. No, it's – God damn it. It's – my brother used to make this for me. Or my brother, you taught me how to make this and then I learned to make it on my own. But yeah, you just take a whole brick of cream cheese, you pour some paste picante over it. Yeah, you spread it out.

Yeah, and you put cheese on top of the salsa. Yeah. I never – doesn't that feel like – like every northeast superbowl party I feel like you would get. Real basement food. Yeah, yeah. You'd be filling in the squares while you munched on that. Little Super Bowl squares.

It seems like you genuinely like that, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. No, he loves it. The whole life, yeah. I did like it. I don't have a Super Bowl – we just got pizzas, boring, but – That's a great – buddy, you need it on the Super Bowl. There's a place called Slyce Truck that I like on the – on the west side.

Oh, yeah. Slyce Truck. That's great. But it's not a truck. It's like a store that's called Slyce Truck. It used to be a truck. Now it's a store. Yeah.

Very strange times we live in. But for the Oscars, can I shift into the Oscars, please? Yes, please do. So the last one I watched was with you, Sean, at Dom and D.C.'s. Oh, and blushing. It was a really – really – it was like the – it was in the artist one. So it must have been like 2012. And that was the last time when I watched because I think we had just gotten back from a friend's

bachelor party in Vegas the night before. And I had done ecstasy for the first and only time at this. Wow. I remember that. And it was so awful. I was such a loser on – it just like – it was like chatting people up in this like – In the cab line. Strangers.

I would like stand in the cab line. People trying to leave the casino and just like they would be forced to interact with them. They would just like shuffle through the line because I just needed like human interaction. Oh, yes. Right. And my voice was gone because I had been like screaming all night. So I was like, hey, where are you from?

Everyone who came through the line. And then they would say a city and I would just talk about the sports from that city or whatever. And a couple of times security would take me away and then I would go back. Oh, my God. To like re-engage. I was also mad because you like ditched us. Yeah, I left everyone.

Like I was up and I would have just talked – you didn't have to meet people in the fucking cab line. Right. Well, because we – I was so pissed because then it was like – Well, we all went to this club. Should I do it? Well, we all went to this club.

Yes. And if I remember correctly, a lot of us worked because you and I – I definitely didn't have any like biggest club experience. And so I wore a tie. I think you did, too. Yeah, that might be right. No, I'd be shocked if I wore a tie unless I was told that I had to. I think he did.

Maybe I talked you into it. You're going to be standing by yourself in the corner if you wear a tie to a club. Right, Michael? It's really embarrassing. And so I was like – I was really hungover and I also had not called my girlfriend the whole time. So I called her at like 6.30 a.m. when I was going to sleep and she had made very clear like you – all you have to do is like call me at like a reasonable time.

So all night she's like freaking out. So we got in a huge fight. I don't know. And so that's what I associate. So that's good to come. I would have loved to be your guru through that, Hayes. I've dropped X so many times. And I also – I rolled my face off.

I went to the craps tables and I was like pretending to like signal people like craps as if I was in some kind of partnership with them, which for craps makes no sense. Right. No way to like manipulate that at all. So bad. We talked about why you're taking ecstasy before. Yeah. Well, I'm a real drug loser.

I've never come close to ecstasy. I've never – but I have been trying to use marijuana lately and it's – I'm struggling with it. A noble goal. I can't get the grip of it. I can't figure it out. That's the nerdiest shit on earth is that you're – like you have to smoke it to go to bed.

Right. And because you're having sleep issues and you can't – like you were literally asking people you're like, how do you – what do you do? You inhale it and then you take it in for five seconds? I mentioned this on the live show. Like I don't know how long I'm supposed to – how long of an entail I'm supposed to have and I don't know how long I'm supposed to hold it in my lungs. This is a vague brand that we think.

Do you breathe? I can't tell if you breathe it in. Yeah, I think I breathe it in because I use it as an inhaler so I know how to breathe things into my lungs. I question if I held a mirror up to your mouth right now, I feel like there would be no fuck. I feel like we've said this before, I think if you took ecstasy you'd just be like, I'm tripping my fucking balls off and then just go to bed or something. Right.

Yeah, I don't think I'd have a good reaction to that. I really like you guys. That's as much as he opens up, I like you. What is it for? Wife of Natalie, I like you a lot. I do, I will say this. When I get intensely drunk, when I get super, super drunk, I do get open up emotionally and I do tell people I want to hang out with them more and I do say like very sincere things

to people. Let's take down some walls, man. Bring in the pills. That's good to know. I'm going to make sure I'm never around you. We got some triple stack Zoro's, some Mitsubishi's, we got some fucking Dolphins. Some of these are a little speedy. Are they all the same?

Do the different logos mean that it's like a different experience? Well, that would be the story back in the day where it was like the different people would stamp their drug and they would cut it with different things. So it would be like, this one's really speedy. This one's pure molly. It's real dopey or whatever and then you would be like, oh yeah, I took some X-Files last night. It's like, I got the new X-Files and people would have had names for them but it was all

somebody in their fucking basement just stamping them with a logo. It didn't mean no. Okay. I'll try to figure, we should test them on Doughboys occasionally. Just run through a bunch of illicit drugs. We had these clubs open up when I was in high school and they were like these all-ages clubs in Haven and so we would tell our parents like, we're going out to these dance clubs. They don't serve alcohol and our parents would think like, oh, that's good.

They're like not going and drinking like they usually do every weekend. They were probably fiction. Like these kids are being nice. Yes. And so we'd go to these and the whole thing and there'd be, they'd have on the bar like these fruit bowls with oranges because when people were rolling, you'd like take a fucking bite into an orange and like it was supposed to like peak your roll or whatever. We'd go there and they're just like selling all these drugs inside the clubs and my whole

like schools taking it and we'd go for like six months. All the clubs start shutting down. There's all these news stories that are like, the drug den and it's like the name of the club. I think it was called insomnia that I've been like going to for like the past six months and like sitting next to my parents on the couch where they're like, all that happens here is kids do drugs and you're going like, that's crazy. They were doing that right next to me.

Wire knows is that when I was a young boy, I used to drink robotussin. I used to go robotripping. Oh, you're robotripping. I robotripped quite, maybe too many times and I remember I robotripped with my old friend John Paquette and I actually saw trails and stuff in like cigarette. I mean, this is also, I was 15 and when we couldn't get beers or something, we would drink robotussin. Which is like one step above like putting a baseball bat on the ground and like spinning

around. To this day, when I think of everything that I've done, I'm like, some of those were very intense. Was it really? It was. It was, they were strangely intense and John and I went upstairs and we sat down on the couch and my dad was in the room and thin red line was on and like, it was the scene where the guy gets shot and then like, there's like a shot of like a butterfly or something

and I was like, oh my God, I'm so, this is so awful. And then John's dad came and I opened the door and watched him walk out and he walked to the end of my sidewalk and fell and I just closed the door and I was like, Jesus. We're never going to do this ever again. I've never, I've, and I don't, I've, I'm like, maybe we're similar in some ways. I didn't go crazy, but I experimented with stuff and I, I can't think of anything worse than doing that. Right.

I would never, I can't think of anything worse than doing any sort of robotripping right now. Then robotripping or doing any sort of like, like a hallucinogenic drug. I would never want to do it ever, ever, ever in my life again. Yeah. It's, it's over. It's over with. I'm maybe not cut out for that.

Yeah. It's, it's done for that life. I don't think you should start either, by the way. I don't think you should start robotripping. I don't think you should. I mean, robotripping maybe. Yeah. Yeah.

I just picked that up at age 36. I can see you getting in DMT. I can see Wagger being like real big on the spirit, Molly. Sure. These sounds like, these sound like, I don't, these sound like drugs you're describing from like RoboCop2. These are like real things that people have. DMT.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's not, it's just not all in RoboCop2. DMT I think is a cough syrup. No, DMT, no, the, the ingredient in Robo, Robotussin is like DXM or something. But DMT is the powder that you smoke that's the third eye drug.

Yes. And it's just like a really crazy intense like five minute acid trip basically. Yes. And people, whatever, people smoke it out of a pipe and it's, and there's a, I think there's like a Netflix documentary about it called like the God molecule or whatever and people are like, you see to the other side, it's like, no, you fuck your brain up. Right. Yeah.

People say, people think that you see like aliens. They think that you see like an alien God when you do it. This is what we're turning, by the way, we're turning into the Joe Rogan. Yes. I'm sorry. No, no, no. I, I, I know all that. It's funny how, how fun they make you, like they make it seem when you're like the X file,

I fell for all. I did think that was cool. It was great marketing. It was good. It was very good drug marketing. Mm hmm. But you know what? This podcast is about food, right?

Yeah. Let's get away from this shit. Except I will say there is a drug that makes you, I've never done it that it's like a weird, it's like the drug that you take and then food, like you can eat a lemon. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I don't know if that's classified as a drug. Okay.

Yeah. It's the flavor checking. You've played with it, haven't you? Yeah, I've had it. The berry, that weird berry thing. Yeah. And it means like, it makes like things that would normally be bitter or sour to taste sweet.

And like, inverts your taste buds. Yeah. Interesting. It's very interesting. I would like if that is the drug you get addicted to, why would I? He's eating lemons in the studio all the time. I'm trying to remember the name of the berry and what's in my head is Gorham Berry, which I know isn't right because that's a berry from the Star Wars universe.

Jesus. I think that is close though. It's probably, it's like adjacent to that, I'm sure, in the same way that jazz is adjacent to jizz, which is the Star Wars music. The music they play in the Mos Eisley Cantina. They call it jizz. They play jizz. It is called jizz.

They play jizz. It is called jizz. It's called jizz. Do you guys watch Top Chef? I'm not current on Top Chef, but I've watched it in the past. I have watched it in the past, too. Do you remember there was an episode at Top Chef where the person used that berry? And like, I've heard of that berry?

Like it's a stupid like party trick thing and it's like a fucking five-star chef who was going like, actually we each get to bring a special ingredient and I brought this berry and he basically like made the judges eat the berry and then like take a bite of a lemon and it was like, that was sick as fucking dish. It was like, that's pretty weak. This should be happening in like an eighth grader's basement. Right. That was so lame.

Who was? That Marcel? Probably. Probably, yeah. Oh, that was like a season two early villain. An early hater in this Top Chef. But it was on one of his returns. Right.

And this season is good. Yeah. I've got to watch it. In Charleston, right? Yeah. My Miannally went to Charleston. Had a lovely time. Great food city.

Oh, man. Some delicious eats there. Your vacation. Had a great time. You went on a vacation. You left the state of California. Uh-huh. I think it's the first time in my adult life we've gone on a vacation for leisure and it

was a lot of fun. Did you sample any chains there? There's some good chains that you can't get. No, we didn't. I mean, in like Husk is a micro chain. There's a few different Husk locations. It's a very nice southern restaurant. And I think there's a couple in Charleston and then there's a few in elsewhere, I think

in Virginia and maybe Tennessee. That place is fantastic. But no, no specific. I meant like Bojangles. No, Bojangles, no. Yeah. Cookout is really good. I've heard cookout is great.

Some people on Twitter have been recommending cookout too. Apparently a cookout, you can get a corn dog as a side. Like you can get instead, in lieu of fries, you can substitute for a corn dog. Oh, yeah. I like that. Yeah, it's pretty nice. It seems like they've got a lot of innovations there. You famously have never been to Boston, either.

No, yeah. I'd love to go to Boston sometime. I should have brought you back for the parade today. So I could just get booed and pelted? Yeah, exactly. All right. I want the entire Patriots lineup to beat the shit out of you. Dude, I would love to see Gronk Spikey.

We'd love to see Gronk Spikey, Weigur. How do you feel about that? I think you'd introduce me to Gronk and they'd be like, wait, who is this? What are you? Who are you? Who are you? What are you talking? What?

What is your view on the Patriots, Weigur? Here, well, my view on the Patriots, here, I mentioned this at dinner. Remember that you love Kobe who's a bad guy? Yes, Kobe Bryant is, by all accounts, at best a difficult man in his personal life. There's a lot of things that are very shady about him, but I am a fan of him on the basketball court, a longtime Los Angeles Hikers fan. So yes, as part of being a sports fan, I feel like you have to rationalize rooting for people or franchises who have some sort of shady affiliations, be them be the individual athletes

who have some some negative kind of things that happen in their personal lives or in their professional lives, or just the fact that these billionaires all own these franchises and are oftentimes people who have made their money in shady ways, continue to stay rich in shady ways, do things that gouge tax, you know, that gouge local tax bases to get stadium deals, etc. There's all sorts of shady shits associated with being a professional sports or college sports fan. That said, I admire, I said this at dinner a little bit, I admire the Patriots partly

because I think they do cheat, and I think they get away with it, and I admire them for doing that, because I think you should be willing to do whatever it takes to win in a highly competitive field, and I'm glad that Belichick and Brady and the Patriots franchise are just fucking like, fuck it, we're gonna use every tool in our box, we're gonna fucking go for it. I hate you, I hate you so much that I can't believe that even when you're being nice to me it's some sort of weird troll. No, I'm not being a hater right now, I'm saying that I admire-

You know what, I was joking when I said that I hope, when I agreed with John that I think that Gronk should spike you. No, Mike, you don't want to say that. Mike, please, some things we can't take back. Now I hope Gaskowski kicks you through a few- Aw, Mike! Mike, they're recording this! It turns you into a little field guy, I've gotten in trouble on this podcast for saying

some stuff, but I hope that Gronkowski kicks, I'm sorry, Gaskowski kicks you out of the fucking, out of California, what do you think they're up in? The same fate befalls me as be fell Homer in Treehouse of Horror 2 when he got transformed into a football by Bart when he had the power to change the world and then he sailed through the uprights and then later he got turned into a little toy box. You want that to happen to me? I want that to happen to you. Because you can't take that back once you say it.

I wish it happens to you. What do you think of that? I think you're being probably the biggest hater of all right now. Oh my god. I should go. You're allowed to. Yeah, you guys, I mean you should go. We should be able to leave anytime.

We should leave anytime. We should give that option to the guests and we can just talk it out for the rest of the day when they leave. Yeah. Let's give them that. Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up, signal.

That's what Pauly Shore did to us. Yes, he did. Really? Yeah, like five minutes into our podcast, Pauly Shore just started spinning his finger around with the wrap it up. The weasel? Yeah, the weasel. The weasel did that?

Yeah. Why is he doing that? He called China Homer. Yeah, he called me Homer. Did you keep that energy out? Oh, he kept it. Oh, yeah. Wow.

Jesus Christ. I've only heard great things about Pauly Shore. Let's talk about BJs. All right. You guys threw a few options at us. Yeah. Papa John's, BJs. I can actually take this farther back.

Please do. In the story of us appearing on the show, Mitch emailed us yesterday. Two days ago, wasn't it? Two days ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Monday night. And Mitch is booking the guests right now. That's what the Spoonisher Six is, if this is like your first time listening to us.

So, here, can I talk? Mitch is booking the guests for six episodes. I'm going to give you, everyone, a little behind the scenes look into what the Spoonisher Six is. My plan was to always end with you guys. I want to end with you guys and maybe do the shrimp off, which we still haven't done. Yeah. That would have been great.

That was the thing we talked about last year when you guys came for a red lobster. We're going to have a shrimp eating competition. The shrimp off. That was my plan. I've failed at booking guests and I thought I would do them a week earlier than I was going to and that's what happened. So, my original plan for the Spoonisher Six was, I mean, I'm just going to say it now because it's not going to happen.

I had emailed and talked to Ray Liotta's people. I wanted to get Ray Liotta on the podcast and I couldn't. I couldn't do it. I failed. I really, really tried. I wanted Ray Liotta to come on the podcast. Yeah, everyone would want Ray Liotta to come on the podcast. I had the worst time.

I get your wrap it up signal. He would have hated it. I think in my email, I think I told that, well, I was a big fan, which you are. You love Ray Liotta. You post tweets of him all the time in the text I'm in with you. He's got a great Twitter account. I wanted Ray Liotta. We could talk about good fellas.

We could talk about all the food and good fellas. It could be a great podcast. It didn't work out. Ray Liotta didn't work out. Almost everything I tried didn't work out. I saw him once, so I'd go get him Tiger on Larchmont. You guys know that place? Shit.

I wish I was there. So he's sitting there and he's sitting with this kid and I'm like, what's this about? And he goes and he leans over to the guy next to him and he goes like, you see this kid? This kid just directed the best movie of the year, Whiplash. And I'm talking to him about doing his next movie. And they were like, oh, yeah, great. He's just getting in everyone's face because also the seating outside that place is just like cubes.

You're just on a little box and he's just like in everyone's face with like Damien Chazelle. He's just going like, uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh. And then he was going to be Gosling in Lalo. I guess that's what we're finding out is that somehow fell apart. I would, I would have really, really enjoyed Ray Liotta as Gosling in Lalo. Every other component is the same. I would have really liked that. I think I would have really liked that movie.

It is stars. I tell you, that kind of casting would have been keeping in how Hollywood casts older men opposite young female leads. What the fuck is up? What is going on with you today? Oh, a 60-something man? Yeah, let's set him up with a 25-year-old romantic partner. Seems to be about the size of it.

Yeah. Who are you proving this to now? What is your end goal? I don't understand this anymore. To tell the truth, Mitch. Exactly. You're going to be like on your hospital bed saying this shit. Hollywood casts older men as you flatline.

Yeah, hopefully soon. I console Natalie. So Ray Liotta was your big get. That's a big guess. I'd try it. I'd really tried to get Ray Liotta. I admire you for attempting. I don't think he would go on any podcast, let alone our bad podcast.

I think he would have gone. And then to end it with the shrimp off would have been a great way to end it. Right. Yeah. After you had Liotta. But I'm telling you, I saw him. He's around. It seems like in the email, it's an enjoyed podcast.

People listen to it. Right. I told them lies, of course. I boosted the stats a little bit here and there. You know what's this? And this is how bad we are at this. We actually have a lead with a there is a famous actor who wanted to be on the podcast and like his reps emailed us and we have that lead and we're like, oh shit, we should

get that. And we never even emailed that guy back. We were just like, we forgot to say his name because I feel like we're undermined the chance. He's in the Sopranos. Yeah, a guy from the Sopranos. And now he's dead. No, he's not dead.

Oh, it wasn't Gandolfini. No, it's not the guy. Jesus Christ. It wasn't Gandolfini. Oh, I wish it was Ilargas. I hope it's Imperiali. It's Ilar. It's Ilar.

It's God. It's Ilar. It's God. It's Robert Ilar. It's Ilarbit. Oh, it's Will Janowitz. Yeah. No, we fucked up.

We're bad. We're bad at this. We're bad at it. We're bad at it in lots of ways. It's hard to guess. Is it a little Stephen? It was a guy, it was a memorable cast member from the Sopranos. Is it Imperiali?

Do you guys watch his tequila commercials? No, I've seen some of them. Those are the best commercials in the world. I like those commercials, too. There's nothing more soothing. I don't know who they're for. I don't know what the angle is. It's all like...

It's about like real men. It's like, whatever happened to best buddies. Can I... Now it's all tweet snaps. Can I text with you? Be a man. Drink the tequila I have. This is so weird.

I love that. That was also what it felt like. This is his big choice. I haven't seen him for a while since the Sopranos. It's his comeback vehicle. He did nine commercials for 1800 tequila or whatever. There's one where the frame is super fucking weird. It's like a bottle of Patron.

Why is it shot like this? It's way too far up in front of the camera. And then at the end of the commercial, he puts his feet up on the table as if to do it casually, but it's so not. And he kicks the Patron bottle up the table, then looks at the camera and goes, oops. Yeah. They're great. Go to youtube.com.

That's a tequila. I feel like I've never seen that drink in real life. 1800s? Yeah. I mean, you see like Don Julio and I was at Cuervo and all these... I just feel like 1800 you never see. They were really trying to make a push of 1800 will be the new premium tequila brand. I think it's a Cuervo derivative and I think I think Imperioli was the face of that push

and it didn't quite go push through. But yeah. I'll say this about Imperioli, it did work on someone. Right. I mean, I don't drink, but if I did, don't you just buy them up, you just buy them. I, Imperioli, as Christopher has put a fear into me that I'm always afraid I'm going to crush my cats, Wally and Irma. Right.

I'm proud of him, he passes out on the dog and that stuck with me for whatever reason and it's in my head always that I'm going to sit on them or something stupid or pass out on them. And that sets Tony off because Tony's an animal lover. He's an animal lover. He's an animal lover. They're having his intervention and the thing that Tony finally loses it is finding out that Christopher killed, is it Drayton Mateo, what was the character's name?

Adrian. Adrian, he killed Adrian his dog accidentally and then he flips out and beats the shit out of him. If I recall correctly. I think that's correct. Yeah. It was a great show. Did you guys watch the Sopranos?

Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen all of them. It's a good show. Yeah, I liked it. All swagger spoils, a little bit of the dog thing for you, sorry about that. It's still worth watching. Yeah. We ain't just coming up on that.

Yeah, I'm like, they're building to something with this dog. The dog is like the main character in like eight episodes for a season and then they take him out. And Tony, with the ducks, his relationship with it, what a great show. Lucks the ducks, loves the horse, loves Pio Mai. Is that one of your favorite? Fucking Pio Mai. It was Pio Mai.

Oh my God. Is that, it's uncanny, your impression of Tony Soprano. Is that your favorite show of all time? I mean, I'd probably say Simpsons. Oh, okay. Yeah, Simpsons. But the Sopranos is a great drama, one of my favorite dramas. I got a recommendation for Sopranos lovers.

Go for it. The book Difficult Men. Did you guys read this book? Oh, yes, I have that book. I read Difficult Men. It's largely about David Chase and then it also goes into David Milch. It's David Milch. They go through Matthew Weiner and Mad Men, but it's, you know, it's all these, and Vince

Gilgain and Alan Ball and the Six Feet Under Writers Room. But they sort of profile all these different writers' rooms during that heyday of like Sopranos and all the, you know, the third golden age of television. But it's great. It's a really good book. I think Sopranos is my favorite of all time. I think it's my favorite TV show. Yeah.

It's out there. And too bad. James Gandolfini. There is someone on the show who emailed us and we fucked up. We fucked up, yeah. He'll probably never come on. No, yeah. We're done.

Did he email you personally? I figured out. It was a rep emailed us and was like, this guy wants to go on the show and we're like, oh, yeah, we should set that up and then we just didn't email him back. So that means he listened? He's like a fan? As at least as aware of the show. Wow.

Oh, you figured out who it is? Yeah. Who is it? Tony Sereca. Oh, wait. We won't say anything. I met Tony. You met Tony Sereca?

Yeah. When did you meet him? He did The Grinder. Yeah. Oh, he did The Grinder. Okay. Yeah. It's not him, but that's a good guess.

Oh. I'm not going to say anymore. Okay, so. I mean, we're narrowing it down. Vincent Pastore. It's almost, I mean, like they're going to find us. Yeah, people, someone will figure it out. It doesn't matter.

You know what? If you think you know which Sopranos cast member wanted to be on Dope Boys, use the hashtag Doperanos. Jamie Lynn Siegler. Doperanos. Good. Okay. Doperanos.

Good. It is good. That is good. It's very good. I mean, I'm always worried. I saw her outside UCB once, so I know she's into comedy. Okay. Jamie Lynn.

Yeah. I think she's friends with BB-8. I know BB-8 from Improv, and I think she's friends with him. I think she was there to see him. Well, you know, BB-8's a droid. I know who BB-8 is. She is into comedy because she dated Turtle at one point. Oh boy, okay.

And if you're into comedy... That's right. No comedians. It's a right of passage. We've all done it. No comedian and sandwich maker. Turtle. I got a Turtle story.

Go for it. I'd love to hear it. Is this... Should I be telling this? It's a second-hand story. I heard that there was a pick-up basketball game that a bunch of people I knew always played in, and that Turtle showed up and just destroyed the game, just showed up and really took charge.

He called fouls on everyone and just ruined it, and a bunch of people were just like, I'm not going anymore. Turtle's rooting this for me. That's a foul. Once he got trim and athletic, he maybe takes it very seriously now. You know what? He's in one of your favorite moves of the year, Sully. Oh yeah, Turtle is.

Turtle is. The little small part. Michael Rappaport also in Sully. Michael Rappaport is the bartender in Sully. Yeah. A lot of good people. Turtle takes small parts. He's in battleship.

He has like one line on the movie battleship. It's really weird to see him like... And yeah, he... Just pop up. Some people just love to work. They just love the craft. Not us. Not you and I.

No. Well, we'll talk about that in a later episode. All right. We were talking about BJs earlier. We got wildly derailed. Oh yeah, I was taking us through the process of us coming on this show. Yes, please continue. Mitch emailed us.

Sean is like in some kind of mood. He was like feeling very feisty and he texts me and he's like... Well, first he calls, which is very unusual, and then he texts me. And he's like, let's tell him that we'll only do it if we can do McDonald's. I was like, let's call out the big dog. Let's say, we'll do the show tomorrow, but you have to do McDonald's with us. Which you're assuredly saving for some special episode. It's been too long without doing it that it's not like earmarked for the 100th episode.

And I said no. I said, they'll just say no. Like, why would we? And I was like, well, then they don't have a show. They don't have a show. They don't have a show. You know what's funny, maybe we would have just said yes. Yeah, probably.

We're going to end up doing it with the Sopranos guy and no one will be happy. He won't be happy and we won't be happy. So maybe we should have just done McDonald's. It'll be like episode 107 and then they'll be like, our guest will be like Armin. It'll be a shitty episode and everyone will be mad. Armin's a great guest. Armin is a great guest, but like I feel like he's not necessarily conducive to a coherent podcast.

He's a great guest, but he does bad episodes. He's a wild card. Wow. He's a wild card. We don't know what you're going to get out of Armin. He can derail things. And you hate that, as we know. No, I love Armin.

Armin's a great guy. He's an out episode. I loved having him here. He has great contributions. Oh, all those memories like that Doe Boy episode he came on. What the fuck is wrong with you? Recall something from your life with Armin. We text each other about Lakers games.

Oh my God. Okay. No, is that, you know what? Actually, I saw, you mentioned BB8. Me and David Phillips were at the Lakers game. And also Armin Weitzman was at the Lakers game with Michael Cassidy. And this was the day that the Star Wars or the day after that the episode 7, the first full trailer had released.

And BB8 was revealed for the first time. And I remember we saw Armin at halftime. We were sitting on opposite ends of the arena. And Armin was very upset because he was convinced the movie was going to be bad. And I was trying to console him and be like, no BB8, like the droid is really cool, right? It looks great. And I was like, I don't know. I just, he was so like in his head about it.

I can't believe he was right. He was right all that long ago. Well, we have to agree to disagree on that. But I... Oh yeah, you still do that thing where you pretend to like the movie. I did. I liked Forza Wicked. Okay, so wait, you guys want to do McDonald's?

You were going to exert that leverage. Well, I got scared and I talked Sean out of it. He wouldn't let me, you know, be a big dog. And then we... And then Sean pitched a few ideas and I only, you pitched BJ's and something called Burger Ram. Well, I pitched Burger Lounge, which I go to a lot, I think it's basically just Los Angeles. And then Burger Ram, which just popped up and it says it's in like 12 countries and

there's like a bunch of franchises, but it seems to have come out of nowhere. It's super weird. It's an Israeli slider concept. Okay. Yeah. And they do mini burgers and they're just coming to the States now. And Sean's pitch was that he thought there could be a lot of jokes about... About the name, yeah.

Is it like Skyrim for burgers? Which I don't know what Skyrim is. Which he has never played, has no familiarity with. Zero concept though. I barely know what it is. That was a weird... Because I was like, oh, that's funny that it's... Is it Skyrim or is it Skirim?

You will know this. It's Skyrim. It is Skyrim. Yeah. And so I was like, oh, like they must like video games. Skyrim, burger-rim. And then neither of you play video games, you said, right? Or at least have a yes.

No, I hated that idea. And so I suggested Papa John's on top of that. And then Mitch, I think you said, I'm going to pitch BJs and Papa John's to Weigur. Yeah. And he said, purely out of convenience. And Sean lost his shit. And he said, don't tell me it's for convenience when there's like three BJs in the city. I give you like seven burger-rim locations.

You want to say, we don't want to do burger-rim, we don't like the Skyrim joke. Okay, I'm not sure I agree, but I believe you. But don't tell me that it's just convenience because there's one on Midwillshire. There's one in Hollywood. There's one in West Hollywood. There's one in Marvista, Mitch. It's very true. And that's why I emailed Nick back and I said, burger-rim, it's like Skyrim.

Do you want to do this possibly? And Nick wanted to do, he wanted to do BJs because that's one that you want to do. I was originally in for burger-rim. You were in. I said, let's do burger-rim. We emailed you guys back and said burger-rim, didn't we? And then, yeah, I think you got cold feet about burger-rim. Did you already know what it was?

What, know that you were the Israeli slider concept? Hold on a second. You wanted to go to burger-rim because of Skyrim, but you don't even know Skyrim? No, no, no. It just was a really good joke. Well, I just couldn't resist the joke, but I wanted to go because it's a chain restaurant and my understanding was that's what this podcast is. Oh, my God.

It would be an interesting topic to explore. I'm sure we could go there, have a meal, and then we would have some opinions about it. And we would certainly be able to say, like the Elder Scrolls game, Skyrim, burger-rim parallels it to something. Yeah, we could say it. We could make that point repeatedly. Have you played the game, Skyrim? I haven't played an Elder Scrolls game since Elder Scrolls 2, which was Daggerfall.

So literally none of us have played Skyrim. What was confusing to me is Mitch pitched BJs, which is one of your restaurants. Well, that was the one I suggested initially when I contacted you guys about doing the show four years ago. But still, it was very upsetting for you. Well, here's the weird thing to all of me. You were so excited about this. Now I feel like you've cooled on BJs.

I don't even feel like you care that much. Yeah. Sort of a brief kind of phase of my life that I cared about BJs. Right. You know what I wish we had out here? Friendlies. Oh, I wish we had friendlies, too. That's really what I grew up on.

I've never met it. I'd never been it. Let me try it. Oh, you've never been to friendlies? No, they're on the out here. I know. They're so far. Hey, the four of us go on tour, huh?

Every time we come in here, Mitch comes up with another, like, much more involved version of us doing something. Right. Which will never happen. Right. The shrimp off is going to happen. And I fucked it up. The shrimp off will happen for sure.

Good. We need to have the shrimp off. We'll get Ray Liotta to officiate. I would love to have Ray Liotta and our Soprano's guest. Yeah, right. Maybe we'll get him in there. Maybe he could eat a lot of shrimp. Hmm.

Is that a hint? Is he a big seafood lover? Oh, God. What are we doing? What is this? What is this? With this show? Yeah, in general, what is this?

You don't like eating. You don't want to. You didn't want to do the chicken nugget power hour. You didn't want to do the shrimp off. You don't want to do the eating stuff. I'm just not a good, I'm not a guy who can eat a ton of food. I will get full quickly. Yeah, but that's fine.

You just have fun with it and we do it. All right. I just feel like it's going to be anti-climactic. Just throw up, Nick. I'm going to get full very quickly. My body just doesn't hold up to food the way it used to. Because even just going to BJs tonight, I was like, this was too much food. It was too much.

It was very heavy. So much seasoning. Wait a minute, because you wanted specifically the dry rub Sriracha wings. I know. And that was too much for you? Just it was all too much and my stomach feels terrible having just eaten all those BJs. And I generally, you know, I don't even know if this is true, but I don't really eat a lot of sweets.

But like, I got to do the signature dessert. Oh, you got to do that, Paizuki. And so, you know, then you're stuck, then you're eating all this crap. So my question to you is why BJs? Give us a little history of you and BJs. I suggested it originally because I was working at the grinder on the Fox lot. There wasn't a lot of food opportunity there. We would walk from the Fox lot a lot of times at lunch down to the Sentry City Mall.

Oh, yeah. Okay, that's right there. And the BJs was right there on the corner. And so we started pretty regularly eating at BJs when we were allowed to kind of go out of the room for lunch. And it was fun. There's a Lucille's barbecue there, too, I think. I wouldn't know anything about that.

Okay. Well, Lucille's was quite good. Because the first one, the very first thing you see is the BJ. So we started eating there. And I really liked that signature dessert the first time I got it before it started to make me feel sick because it tastes great, but it's just too much sugar. You're getting a dessert at lunch? It's a whole choice.

I did, yeah, because the Pizookie looked so good to me. Right. Okay. A question for you. Do you always want to leave the room? If you're working, do you want to get out of there or do you want to go somewhere else and eat? I'd like to at least go outside.

Me too, yeah. Go for a walk or something. I don't. I'm not an outside eater. I don't like to eat outside. It's a desk. I don't like the outdoor conditions to mix with my food. Oh, man, I eat three meals a week minimum at my desk and then it's the worst part of

my week. I'm so depressed. I hate fucking eating at my desk. I always want to get out of the office. I always want to go for a, like not necessarily eat outside, outside, but get outside. Travel a distance, walk a little bit and get a little fresh air. And then even if I bring it back, that's better than just getting some food ordered eating my fucking desk, like a loser.

You know, my issue with outdoors is the environment, one of man's oldest enemies, ants. I hate ants getting near the food or on the food. When I was a young boy, an ant got in my coke and I had the ant in my, I took a sip of the coke and the ant was in my mouth and I could feel its legs. I could feel the ant appendages in my mouth. I could feel it worming around in my mouth and it forever made me. First off, Mitch, that's good for you. Do you want to have the ant in my mouth?

Yeah, that's not going to hurt you. Secondly, I actually, through the use of tools, am able to elevate my food above the ant level. Their domain is the ground, right? You guys don't know, well, see, when Awagar hears ants, you think of these little tiny California ants. I'm talking the Northeast black carpenter ants that are big. I know them well. They're the worst.

They're nasty. Ants are nasty. And some of those ones even have wings. Some of those ones do have wings and those are the nastiest versions of them. I've had some ant encounters. I know ants can be unpleasant, but to Sean's point, you don't have to eat on like a pit of sand like you can, like they're tables. And I wasn't suggesting you go back to New England to eat your outdoor meal.

I think you could do it right here. Well, here's the other thing, another one of our enemies flies. I hate flies. I hate flies flying around my food. Hayes knows what I'm talking about. I do. I mean, for me, it's mostly, I just like to, I like the computer, I just like to look at the computer.

The computer is good to have as well. That screen gives me a headache. Do you know what I don't like? The propaganda of a bug's life and movies like that. I don't like... What are you talking about? I don't like bugs. You're gonna lose me here, Mitch.

I'm a bug fanatic. I have a book that is the different insects of the Southern California basin and sometimes when I see a bug I haven't seen, when I'm eating outside on the fox lot, perhaps I'll go home and look up the bug. Right. You like bugs for real? Oh yeah. I wish there were no bugs.

It's so funny that you... You die. The whole world would fall apart. Because when I wasn't living in New England, I was living in Texas for like five or six years and there the bugs are like, they will eat you. Like ants, they're very nasty biters. We've talked about that on the podcast before too, but we've talked about too much stuff obviously on this podcast.

But cockroaches are disgusting. That's not a great bug. No, that's a bad one. That's the worst bug. Get them out of here. I give that the worst bug award. Cockroaches? Yeah, cockroaches.

I think I would probably go with Centipede because they're terrifying and they'll sting you. Those bugs are cool. Spiders, I mean spiders bite you. Yeah, spiders are bad. They're scary and they bite you. Spiders are kind of cool, but they're bad. Spiders are terrible.

Well, they're kind of cool. They look like evil alien monsters. I mean they look like true killers. Centipedes just look like weird long goofballs. They could sting, but spiders look scary, which is cool, but you know, it's not like what you want. I'm saying that's a small check mark in their favor is that they look cool versus like a cockroach just looks gross.

I don't want to look at that shit. Get that out of here. If somebody gets a tattoo of a Centipede, you're kind of like, what would you think? Yeah, why would you do that? But if they have a tattoo of a spider on their arm, you're like, well, this guy's tough. Right. I think the only good bug is... You're rolling with me.

Get in the van. The only good bug is a dead bug that's a quote from Starship Troopers, and I agree with it. Right. I don't like eating outside. Sand can get in your food speaking of sand, dirt and dust from the wind. It was so derailed the original point, which was just, I was just talking about getting outside.

Did you go to the beach? Not like eating amongst the elements. Yeah, right. To eat to avoid the bugs. I have bugs at home in bell jars. I got a big leaf bug in there. Do you really? I got this little cool blue beetle that I like.

This is true. Yeah. Wait, what, really? That's true. You're a bug collector? You're like, you have a bug prison at your house? I don't know. Just a display.

But they're live? No. Oh, they're dead. Oh, oh my. Wait, really? Yeah. But they're in like there. It's in a little jar.

In a bell jar. Yeah. Oh, okay. Murder. Anyways. I didn't kill the bug. He said the only good bug is a dead bug. He's trying to find common ground with you.

So I have some dead bugs. I'm still a pacifist, though. Do you let bugs outside of the house? I didn't kill him. All right, moving on from bugs. I'm sorry to bring up bugs. All right. I don't know what to do anymore with this podcast.

We were about to talk to BJs. You said, hold on a second. Like, at a point, we were getting into talking about our meal. I did. I just don't like to eat outside. And then you wanted this fucking bugs tangent. I had to explain myself. I don't like bugs.

Yeah, you don't like to eat outside because you don't understand the concept of dishes and utensils. You just heap your floor on the bare ground and then complain of all the flora and fauna that are attracted to it. I like going to a different room or something. I like to stretch my legs a little bit. Let's talk about BJs. Okay, that's fair.

And real quick, you mentioned a bug's life. Hopper is voiced by Kevin Spacey, also a hater. Oh my God, shut up. Okay, so I went to BJs last night with my wife Natalie because I wasn't sure if I would be able to join you guys for dinner today because of my work schedule. I ended up being able to be there for part of it, but I'll blaze through my meal I had with Natalie real quick and then we'll get into what we had tonight. I had the Pale and Hoppy Taster set.

A thing they do at BJs is they have the Taster beers, which you can get a few, four different five ounce tasters for like $12, $12, $13, it's a pretty good value and you get to have a little bit of everything. The Pale and Hoppy one I like because it's an array of light beers and I'm definitely on the light end of things in terms of beers these days. It kind of fallen out of favor with IPAs, etc. Brewhouse. IPAs thumbs down for me.

Yeah, they're kind of just like I get it, I understand it, but I'm just kind of tired of it. Don't they mostly taste the same? What's my thing with them? IPAs, the hoppiness. The hoppiness, I'm like I get it, so much of them taste similar to me. I liked it when I was in that world, I was like give me those hops, man, I like the bite.

I like a different, I like a sour beer, I've said this before, but a cider, a sour beer, I like to try a little different flavor. I like to change it up. A cider, what are you, baby? Yeah, because a lot of babies don't drink cider, they can't handle it. But they do like sweeter drinks. Yeah, but babies can't handle a cider though, that's too much. You kind of do like a sweeter drink though, you like a cocktail, you like a Mai Tai, you

like a cider versus something a little different. I like juice boxes and baby drinks too. Right, yeah. Hayes, you got opinion on IPAs? Once you get off them for a little while, it's hard to get back in, I think. For a while I was drinking that because it was important to me to look cool, that's what I would order because I would think that people would be more impressed by that, but I stopped doing it for a while and then now when I try it again, it just tastes gross.

Hayes, more into IPOs. Oh boy. Yeah. If you out there like IPAs, hashtag IPA plus, and if you don't like IPAs, hashtag IPF. I was going to say IPU, but we can do IPF. Oh, IPU is good. IPU. And then if you like Stux and Bonds, IPO.

All right, so I got the... Yeah, hashtag IPO. If you're trolling that hashtag, we're going to do a lot of Doughboyz results. I got the Brewhouse Blonde, the Harvest Half-A-Wise, and the Piranha Paleola and the Light Switch Logger, all quite good. The Harvest Half-A-Wise and was my favorite, but the Logger was quite good. I've gotten more into Loggers. Keep it light timing.

I'm also starting to get a little boring too. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a cliche, but it's a good execution of it. I feel like they do have good beers there. If you're someone who likes the brewery side of a brew pub, you can do a lot worse than BJs. Got the Avocado Egg Rolls as a starter. That's avocado cream cheese, sun-dried tomatoes, red onion, cilantro, chipotle peppers, and sweet tamarind dipping sauce.

Sweet sauce, not too sweet. The Avocado Egg Rolls, I mean, it was a thing that I was a little suspicious of, but I really liked the crunch and the crispiness of them. And then the avocado itself was not fresh avocado, it was kind of guacamole. And so it wasn't quite what I expected it to be. But it was still pretty flavorful, and I think it absolutely delivered on that kind of Pan-Asian-Asian fusion appetizer concept. And so if that's the kind of thing you think you're craving at one of these restaurants,

I think you could do a lot worse. I got the BBQ Chicken Chopped Salad for my main. I think they have really good pizzas at BJs. They do like a deep dish Chicago's pizza, but I went with a salad because I wanted something a little lighter. This is a Romaine Iceberg, sweet corn, black beans, jicama, mozzarella, tomatoes, green onion, cilantro, barbecue ranch dressing, and crispy onion strings. The crispy onion strings were quite good.

They were well-fried, they were not too greasy, and there weren't too many of them. So they kind of just were like a nice little crouton component that gave a little bit of crunch to each bite. The jicama was great. That was a great element in it that gave it just an excellent amount of crunch and made it feel very fresh. Black beans also worked well in the salad. Yeah, I was surprised by it.

It felt like something that you would get at California Chicken Cafe, which is a different chain, about California Pizza Kitchen, but just taken up two levels, just a little better than something you get at California Pizza Kitchen. Just for people who can't see this at home, Mitch is reading a book while he does this. It's my first book. And then we close things out with the Peanut Butter S'mores Paisukee. Yeah, you got the Prima Strategy Guide for Mario Kart 64. You're reading the table of contents.

We got the Peanut Butter S'mores Paisukee. So I'm going to save my thoughts on this a little bit, but the Paisukee is definitely something that warrants some discussion, and it's like the signature dessert at BJs. It's like a big, warm cookie that's got ice, and it comes out like pipe and hot, like fresh out of the oven and super soft. And a little cast iron like skillet. It'll burn your hand if you touch it. Don't touch it.

It's got a big scoop of ice cream in it that'll melt through. It's real good. And then Natalie got a house draft root beer there, like a fresh root beer there. That's cool. It was real good. Oh man, that was real tasty. I'm not a root beer guy, but I enjoyed this version. And she got the Late Night Burger, which was open-faced egg with salsa verde, and she got

it with a cheddar mash instead of the fries on the side, and she liked that quite a bit. Natalie always orders better than you. I think she did tonight for sure, but in general, I think, yeah, she's pretty food savvy, and I think she has a good eye for which are going to be the best menu items. Speaking of significant others, I mean, my wife really felt like she was the star of the last Doughboys podcast, because I told the whole story about getting engaged to her. And then we had the whole Scott Peterson thing. She's getting very little attention tonight.

I did say before I left to do the podcast, please talk about me a lot. Sure. It gives her something to enjoy when she listens. So I don't have a way in yet, you know, but just be on the lookout if you see a spot where I can get it in. I mean, you guys know her, yeah. We've talked all about bugs. We talked about bugs too much.

Is she a fan of bugs? Well, we have those bugs at home. That's right. There's this moth that she found on her like rear view mirror, like she saw it when she got in her car to go to work, and then she drove to work and he was still walking around on her mirror and she's like, oh, cool, he came to work with me. Then she went, worked, you know, eight hours, nine hours, whatever she does, came back down to get in the car and the moth was still there, came all the way home with her again.

Oh, wow. Then she didn't see it for a while. Uh-huh. Then she did see it again. And it was a big, cool moth and it was dead, but it had been hanging out with her for a few days, you know, kind of on and off, just had an attraction to her car. So we looked up how to appropriately mount a bug and preserve it and we mounted that moth and have it in a bell jar with some of the other bugs that I purchased.

That is very beautiful. So it's still in your home, okay. Yeah, so that moth was our friend, it came, it wanted to spend time with us, it clearly chose us for its resting place. And so, yeah, with that moth was at our home. That's a very beautiful story. You mount it and then store it in your home. I'm going to do the same thing with you when you die, Mitch.

Uh-huh. You're going to put it in your home? Yeah. I'm just going to have you looming over my bed disapproving. Let's talk about our visit tonight to BJs. So I showed up, yeah, go on. I was just going to ask if people would eat bugs, because we've talked about this before that it's the food of the future.

I've had, was it chapolinas? What do you call those? Oh, yeah. So real, okay. I've had those, those are good. Yeah. What is that? Grasshoppers or crickets?

You know about cricket flower? Like, there's been two shark tank products now that are based, cricket flower based. Okay. And I guess it's like a very easily renewable source of protein. And so it's like a really eco-friendly food. And I would eat that. Yeah, I would totally eat that. It's, it's Oaxacan food, right?

Yeah, there's some bugs in Oaxacan food. And I think, you know, some, there's certain like restaurants from, I think there was a Thai restaurant that used to be the Santa Monica airport that had some bug-based dishes. You'll encounter it in certain cuisines. But I think most of the world eats bugs. Like Americans are, Americans and Europeans are finicky when it comes to bugs. But a lot of the world does eat, incorporate insects as part of their diet. No thanks for me.

I don't like the bugs. I'm not going to eat them. What about snails? I've had, I've eaten, I've eaten escargot once with my parents and I didn't like it that much. I like escargot. You liked it? Maybe it was bad.

Like I feel like it has to be cooked very, very well. I've had good versions of it. Yeah. Have you ever had a bad, I feel like if I got a bad bug dish, that's like the grossest thing imaginable, is to eat a bad bug dish. Well guys, you know, we all eat like eight spiders a year just sleeping. Oh God. We swallow them.

They just fall in their mouths. That's a fact. That's a fact. It's true. Yeah. No, they proved that. Everyone is on board. That's true.

Yeah. Haze, you too. That's on average. That's on average. But I think certain people. Some years it's 15. Some years it's only like two. Certain people are dragging up the average a lot.

Oh yeah, because there's some people who snore. But did we talk about the other really funny suggestion for a restaurant that we did or are we saving it? I don't know. Let's hear it. And now is the time to hear it. That we said that when we, after we talked about maybe doing McDonald's amongst ourselves and then talked about all the other chains, we talked about just taking you guys to Providence,

which is like the like fanciest, most expensive restaurant in LA is not a chain and is always like number one on Jonathan Gold's 99. We also, we try to pay for, with every Doughboy's guest you're coming and doing the show, we'd like to treat you to dinner. It would be funny if we went to Providence and it would be like $700 for the four of us. Me and Nally have been to Providence once and I think we went for, we went for our anniversary, maybe like our fourth anniversary and yeah, it was an amazing meal and insanely opulent.

It was a huge chunk of change. Yeah, it's really good. Did you do the tasting menu? Yeah. The wine pairings. And also too, wine pairings with a tasting menu. You get drunk. Oh yeah.

That's a lot of wine you're drinking. Did you tell her that you got drunk? You told her, you spilled your emotions at that night? Right. I love you. You know what? I like you a lot. I've never said this before, but I'm enjoying myself.

Well, so we, the three cool guys met up first before Nick got there and we ordered up some apps. Actually, were you there for this? All these restaurants, including, you went to the Westwood one, right? Yeah. They're all huge. They're very big. So I've never, the Sentry City one is huge.

Yeah. BJ's brew house is enormous. The Sentry City one's closed now, by the way. Is it really? Really? Because they're redoing them all. Because the Westwood one is also like a quarter mile away. They're really close together.

I knew that you wanted to do this place and I don't know much about BJ's. People make a joke about it. I think it is just because of the name and it's people think that's a funny joke and I guess it is. It is. It's very funny. I guess it is a funny joke. It's no Burger Rim Skyrim, but no, Burger Rim Skyrim is a funnier joke.

But I've been there a few times when I worked in Glendale. I had there on the Glendale location quite a few times. I never got it. Then tonight, we pull up to this one in Burbank. You have to valet your car. I don't think you do. I think we all fell for it. Oh, you don't.

Because I was watching and I saw a big sign that said self parking. Oh, they make it real. They really make you feel like you got a valet your car. Well, we got tricked. That's besides the point is that it was really crowded and it felt like it was really packed and then tonight is a Tuesday night. So if it really felt like that place was what's happened, as you would say, Nick. Right.

There were a lot of people were there and then also too, but speaking to Hayes' point about the real estate of these restaurants, it was jam-packed, but there was like a third of the restaurant that was still just shut down. It was just dark. This place is so fucking big. It's like a football field. That one is gigantically big and also parking lots in Los Angeles, that's some tough real estate to get.

This place, at least you can even pull into it because so many restaurants, you can't even do that. Right. It's street parking or valet only. It's street parking or valet only or you got to go to like, I'm just saying even to be able to pull into it. It has a large area of space. So I'm like, BJ's must have been the top dog at one point.

I don't really know much about the history of that place. But anyways, we started off, we got an appetizer sampler. There was a little bit of, Sean, you wanted to get the boneless Sriracha rub. Well, the Sriracha dry rub wings, I mean, you got to at least try it, right? Was no one else intrigued by that dry rub? I was intrigued. I was intrigued. And this is a thing, so I tend to try to eat pretty healthy, but I'm a real sucker for

chicken fingers and I will get them like anywhere. If I go somewhere that is either a chain or either, yeah. They were labeled boneless wings, but they were chicken nuggets. They're chicken nuggets and I could tell that's what they were going to be and I was happy. They have them at Burger Room too, actually, I've had them. And Burger Lounge. You've been to Burger? At Burger Lounge, they say they call them chicken diglers.

Okay. Well, you have been to Burger Room. Yeah. Oh, and you like it? Okay. No, it was okay. So, we have a hard enough time doing this podcast as is. It seems like you're trying to throw righteous...

Intentionally derailing this. We can't do that. Are you suggesting that I'm some sort of mole from a competing podcast here to try to sabotage your hit show? What could I gain from that? I don't know. Maybe I wouldn't have to hear, you know, Hollywood Handbook's my favorite podcast because it's Doe Boyz.

Yeah, a show that people are actively choosing between. I feel like it's some many people have... There's a lot of crossover between our two podcasts, which... Why would you choose between the pod? You can listen to both podcasts. I wasn't saying there's people... I said there's a lot of crossover. Yeah, I'm saying when they have limited time in a certain week and I think often it comes

down to the two shows are on the block and I don't think we come out on top most of the time. No. I think there's a ton of crossover. I think that there's something wrong with our both of our listener groups, honestly. I think if you're listening to this podcast, you should listen to your guy's podcast instead. Okay. I would say unsubscribe from Doe Boyz and subscribe to Hollywood Handbook.

I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to return that. I'd say you should listen to both. Yeah, I don't think you guys need it. I'd say we should be one and two. I'm just going to co-sign what Wyger said. Yeah, I did want to try that dry rub and I got a little bit of buffalo sauce to dip it in.

You got buffalo? It was funny because did that just make it seem like buffalo tenders or no? I didn't dip it, but... It seemed like a buffalo dipping sauce. I feel like I'm calling you out on this, which is not my intention. I think that it was perfectly fine that you dipped it into the buffalo sauce. Yeah, let me say something at this point because I had joined the meal at this point and I noticed that the appetizer sampler did not have a dip in sauce for the wings and

I just pointed it out. I was just like, oh, it doesn't look like it doesn't have a dip in sauce. Sean and Hayes were flagged down the waiter and were like, hey, can we get some dip in sauces for this? You guys just took care of business and I was just going to eat these dry wings without the sauce. And they were very dry without the sauce. And the sauce made the sauce took them to the next level.

Are you patting yourself on the back for getting us sauces? I'm not patting myself on the back. I'm saying that I admire how this sort of thing goes. You guys really stepped up and took care of business. I learned that all from my lovely wife, who let's just get her in here again. Grace, I always talk about how I'm unwilling to talk to waiters or ask for anything. I sent. We're seated in next to an open window.

I can't move. She does all of it and now she's teaching me very slowly to come out of my shell. I send mine to Deuce that like if we're at a convenience store or something, I'll give her like the chips I want or whatever and like the cash and then I'll just like linger over by the door while she takes care of that interaction. Here's the thing that happens a lot. She'll go like, she'll go like, what do you want to get for dinner? And I'll go like, I don't know, maybe we'll get tacos.

And she'll go like, okay, yeah, well, I want this. And I'll go, okay. And she'll be like staring at me and she'll be like, what? I'll be like, can you call? Oh yeah. Yeah, she always calls. She's like, oh right, yeah, I forgot. It's a big deal to you, which one of us calls.

Right. Like you give a fuck, like you're going to make a bad impression on the phone. So this story doesn't make you seem assertive. I know, but that's why it happened out here with, I'm looking at the crew I'm with. I'm like, I actually have to be the grace in this situation. Right. Well, Iger and I are not going to say someone could come up and beat us and we would tell them to, we would probably just be like, please don't do that to us.

Right? Yeah. We have no backbone at all. So you guys definitely have to be the more sort of one in that situation. And it kind of worked out because we were trying to, we were trying to figure out, there was a little bit of, you wanted these sriracha dry rub wings. That was perfect. You wanted the avocado egg rolls.

The avocado egg rolls. We listed like four things that we were considering when the waiter was there. Our waiter was great. The waiter's good guy. And he said, why don't you, he like pointed at the bottom of the menu, he said, why don't you get this platter, which has all four of the things you just mentioned. You can have all of them. You can have all of them.

And we said, that sounds like a great idea and that is what we did. We got mozzarella sticks, avocado egg rolls. We got your sriracha dry rub wings. We also got the spinach and artichoke dip with chips. And I think that's it. Mozzarella sticks, yep. That's it. The one crazy thing about this meal was those chips, which I think they must do themselves

because of how fucked up they were. Yes, they were very, very fucked up. Something really went wrong with those chips. They were much thinner than any, they're flatbread chips. No, they were, they seemed thinner than that to me. Yes, but that's what they're called. They're not like, yeah, they're not your classic tortilla chips. And I think that it's like, they obviously, they serve a lot of flatbreads there and they

take some of the dough or some of it that gets burned or gets fucked up. Well, some of it wasn't a big wad. Like a lot of it just got a wad at all. Yeah, well, that's what I think. I think that was like an accident. Somebody messed up making a flatbread and they went like, great, more chips. The chips were weird. I didn't make a mistake, I just made chips.

They don't hold up a lot of frying, basically. Yeah, the chips were not great, but also I will say that my least favorite of that appetizer sampler was the spinach and artichoke dip. I don't know how you guys felt about it. I didn't even try it. I thought that the wings were a little overcooked. They felt a little bit like they were a little... Not the best.

They weren't the best, but in the mozzarella sticks were not great. You know what? Now that I think about it, I'm like, the appetizer, maybe the avocado egg rolls may be the best of the bunch. I didn't love those either. I think the combination of the avocado and the cream cheese is so much mushiness. I don't know really what I was expecting, but I don't feel like they were as crispy as maybe yours were at the Westwood look.

Yeah, it may have been a different execution from what I had last night. Do you hate BJs? I can't tell. And now I'm confused. I'm like, do you not like this place? I've only eaten one thing there, really, which is I would go and get the bazooki or whatever. And then the first time I went, I got the roasted salmon quinoa bowl off their healthy menu.

Which, yes. And I told Hayes that I had gotten it, and Hayes, because I was working with Hayes at the time, and he went, those places have a way of making those things taste very good. They put extra salt or whatever. That's not even the best thing they do. I saw on the menu they have an ahi tuna salad with little wasabi strips or whatever, and I knew that was going to be good. It's like the office lunch stuff that's so well done there, but I decided to try something

else. Yeah, he was right. And then that's what I got there, and I probably got it four times before they closed down that place, and I stopped going there during lunches. The secret, actually, is because those are often on the low calorie menu, which means that they just put a lot of sugar in it. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Wait, that's how they, but I would think there'd be a lot of calories in sugar itself. There isn't really compared to, just if you're getting flavor out of something, it doesn't translate to the tonic count. I think there's a lot of salt in this quinoa bowl, I mean, I think that's kind of the thing. Sure, that's totally the case. In the quinoa bowl, sure. Yes.

But in the ahi tuna salad, I think it's sugar. Abs weren't great. I had a, by the way, I had a berry cider, one of BJ's berry ciders. Very good. I enjoyed it. Yeah, my beer was fine. I had the Jeremiah Red. I had the Nutty Brunette.

I don't drink so. What did you have for a drink, though? I got Club Soda. Club Soda. Yeah. It's a classic drink with a lime in there. It looked good. Yeah, could I have more bubbles?

You're right. I like little baby drinks. I liked that cider. It was kind of like a, it was a fun, their drinks there are good. I think they do a good job, Nick. Yeah. I agree with you on that. The appetizers are so, so, but so what did you guys get, just go ahead and say what you

got for your mains. I got the pita tacos with shrimp and arugula, and you got the pita tacos as well, right? That's right. I got the Mediterranean, the grill, what is it, the Mediterranean chicken pita tacos, which are, I guess they are on that, the kind of the, the healthier menu. Yes. Grilled chicken breast seasoned with big papa smokers, dessert, desert gold rub, cucumber, Roma tomatoes, red onions, feta cheese, and fresh cilantro toss and red wine vinaigrette

and drizzled with Greek yogurt crema, and a char grilled pita served with seasonal bistro grains. That's what I got. The bistro grains are not good. I like, actually didn't even, I took a bite of them and they were bad, but I actually really, really liked those chicken pita tacos. Mine was good too. They were good.

They were good. They, they, I, and after especially that fried appetizer we had, it was a nice, it felt light and, and semi healthy. It was, it was nice. I wanted to try it because there's a chain in New York. I was in New York for a while and I was walking around with my wife and she said, there's a chain there called the Hummus and Pita Company, but it's company's just CO. So my wife looks at the sign and she says, Hummus and Pita Co.

What's a Pita Co? And I crushed her. I just annihilated her for it and she's still paying for it to this day. But I see that on the main. Now they actually do have, they call them pita tacos, but I'm saying they should just call those Pita Co's. Pita Co's. Yeah, that's a good idea.

I like that too. I will say there is something about PJ's where they don't, they don't really have their fun. It's like a huge, huge menu, but they don't really try to do, they don't have, they don't try to do anything kind of like silly or fair, you know what I mean? Very business like approach. It's a very business, it's a, it's a, it's a serious, except for the silliest dessert of all time.

Yes. I think the Paizuki is where they let it all hang out. Now why do you say Paizuki? Yeah. Because I've heard a lot of pronunciations of this thing now. I believe it's a combination between pizza and cookie since PJ's is famous for their pizzas. So I think it's like, but you say Pizuki and you say pizza.

I say, well, no, it's, it should be Pizuki. It shouldn't, wait, shouldn't it be Pizuki? No, it should be Pete Zookie. Pete Zookie. Pete Zookie. Pete Zookie. It should be Pete Zookie? I don't think that's right either.

It sounds like a man's name. Pete Zookie. It does sound like, it sounds like a major leaguer from the 70s with big sideburns. I think the, I think it is Pizuki. I call it Pizuki, but I think it probably is, it probably is Pizuki. I've heard it. There's no way it's Pizuki. Well, I've heard it pronounced all manner of ways by different service.

But it is much more like a pie than a pizza, which it's not like a pizza at all. That's what, I always said the Portmanteau pie was involved. That makes more sense. Yes. It's much more like a cookie pie than a pizza. I think it's Pizuki too because of, because of the Pizone gives us kind of a. That gives us a little bit of a clue as to how this, the world we're in and how this is supposed to be pronounced.

It's going to help us lead us out of the wilderness. If it was a Pizone concept, instead of an I, it would be an apostrophe and we would get that it was Pizuki. But wait, is it PIE? It's PIE. It's Pizuki. Yeah, it's Pizuki. Pizuki.

No. Pie is PIE. Pie. PIE is pie. Are you talking about the, yes, but they're not talking about the, they're not talking about pie. I'm just saying that PIE can be pronounced with a long I. Like that's like, I'm just saying that, look, the pronunciation of Pizuki, pie-zuki, however

you want to say it is in dispute. Maybe PIE is more Puh. Yeah, but I know that it's not pie-zuki. Okay. Well, fine. Whatever. Pizuki. We'll call it Pizuki for now.

All right. We should, we should ask the people if, if what team you're on, hashtag, hashtag Pizuki or hashtag pie-zuki. Right. I guess just, just hashtag, however phonetically you say like Pizuki, just send that to us. But let's talk about the Pizuki. So I want, I got the peanut butter s'mores one last night. Triple chocolate cookie, peanut butter, marshmallow fluff, marshmallows, vanilla bean ice cream.

So what this basically was was like a chocolate cookie with some peanut butter in it. The peanut butter was actually like the least dominant element despite it being front and center with it. The s'mores kind of overtook it. A lot of marshmallow fluff and then just a layer of marshmallows on top of it. It was honestly like a little, the marshmallows was a little excessive. Nick. But yes.

I never said my entree. I thought you talked about your entree earlier. You said to get it every time. Well, I said that's what I used to get. Okay. And I got it again. You got it again. I thought you already discussed it.

We were fucking talking about pie-zuki this whole time. I thought we were moving on to desserts. Nick is the more mad than he's ever been. No, please talk about your entree. He got that same key. And then he's talked about in-depth. He just didn't talk about this iterate. It was good.

I didn't like it as much as I used to. Okay. Oh, Jesus. Here's what I'll say. Too much marshmallow. There was marshmallow in every bite. If you're a marshmallow fanatic, go for it. The dally was scooping some of that marshmallow off of there just to get to that cookie because

there's too much. Hey, my man, you ordered the marshmallow dish. You got to know you're going to get some marshmallow in there. They gave us some. I think they gave us too much. I'm just saying it's too much of a component for something that's called the peanut butter. Okay. You hear this.

Peanut butter s'mores. I'm thinking equal parts at minimum peanut butter and s'mores. And s'mores itself is not just marshmallow. That's marshmallow chocolate and graham cracker. So I'm thinking marshmallow is a much less dominant element. They'd call that the marshmallow peanut butter pizookie or something. They call it the marshmallow peanut butter chocolate. I would have known when I was getting a little bit more.

That said, the pizookie is fucking delicious. It's so good. The cookie is warm. It's sinful. It is very... Thank you, Sean. It's sinful. That's the perfect word for it.

The way the ice cream melts with every bite and progressively turns into a puddle of soup as you're eating it, it's so fucking good. I'm going to go out on a limb. Best chain restaurant dessert. I think that's right. And I get the salted caramel one. And as I said before, I'm not necessarily a chocoholic. We talked about being a gummy or a choco on this show and I maybe have leaned more gummy

traditionally and the fact that they offer one where there are chocolate chips drizzled on top of the ice cream and they're very good, but that's not the main component of the dish. It's more of a butterscotch cookie with chunks of crunchy caramel inside and a little bit of salt on the caramel and some caramel drizzled on top and a big scoop of vanilla ice cream. And it is so fucking good, you guys. Right. But it is... We were all complaining about how sick we felt and I think that is the root of the bad

feeling. Because it's too decadent. It's too decadent. You cannot... You should not be eating this. Yeah. I just... I got a quick little thing to play here.

Pizuki platter. Pizuki. What? Pizuki platter. What's your source on this? It's how to pronounce... Pizuki platter. That must be right.

Pizuki. Video by dictionaryvoice.com. So here's what happened is that this is probably some programmatically generated thing that no human has had a hand in. That sounded like a program to you. That sounded like a real person. I think that was Kieran Knight. But what I'm saying is that doesn't answer our question at all.

There's a lot of debate on how you pronounce it. This is... We've kind of gone onto something here that a lot of people are... They debate this. You know... There's a lot of different views on this, actually. I'll say this. There's some cryptic things going on with BJs in general.

As I alluded to my intro, the origin of BJs is unclear. People don't know what the B and the J stand for. Do you guys trust cha-cha.com? Because they seem... My life. Well, it's not loading anyways. But we also got the Oreo cookie pizuki or pie zuki, however you want to pronounce it. A rich chocolate cookie with the taste of Oreo cookies, weird, topped with vanilla bean

ice cream and a dollop of mousse. That's what we got. Do you like that? Yeah. I think the salty caramel one was a little bit better. I didn't try the salty caramel one. I should have taken a spoonful. You should have dug in, man.

I should have dug in. Sorry. And I should have insisted on it because I wasn't going to finish that damn thing. Did you guys not kill it? I thought you killed it. Not really. No, it's such a sugar bomb, man. I can't handle all that.

I mean, it's so sinful. It is. It's confusing to me because this seemed like your favorite restaurant that you wanted to do here. And now it seems like you don't even like the bazuki even that much. No, it's the best chain restaurant dessert that there is. That's true. I'm trying to think if there's something better, but like, I can't think of a signature

dessert, right? No. I would say in general, Cheesecake Factory Cheesecake is really good. Okay. But maybe just... Papa John's has a couple. Oh, do you... And you suggested Papa John's.

I did. Yeah. Which would have been fun after the bazuki. Hayes really wanted to go there and that got picked and then I really wound up in a corner with picking this chain restaurant. I didn't want to win and I didn't want to lose. Right. Well, we all won when we got a taste of the bazuki because they're good.

It's great. They're really good. The Oreo one was good. I'm guessing as the other one, but it still is a good one. Yeah. Oh, it's awesome. Hayes, are you going to come back to do Papa John's or you want to tell any of your Papa John stories?

He's got a lot of anecdotes. I do have a lot of Papa John's material. I will let someone else... I have to keep Papa John's to... Who do I think should do Papa John's? Zach Perlman. I think you guys will probably have him in here to do Papa John's. Oh, you and Dom have like a Papa John's connection.

Did you... Every time we order Papa John's, we send each other a screenshot. Did you just... You booked... You're booking the episode? Zach Perlman is going to be... Zach, I know you're listening. Come on in right now, wherever you are, come to the studio.

Andre from Mulaney, can we get you in the building, please? Sean, would you like to book a guest for us as well? Yeah. Let me think. Who would really pop on Mike? Maybe like a Lee Rubinstein type, something like that. Sure. What do you want?

He's eating at... Let me think of where he's going to dig in and get his... Get his... Strap his feed bucket on. Oh, what about Applebee's? Get some of them riblets. Okay. All right, you heard it here.

Lee Rubinstein, Zach Perlman, you're on notice for future Doughboys duty. We'll take a quick break while we're right back with more Doughboys. Welcome back to Doughboys. We're here with Sean and Hayes talking about BJ's brew house and restaurant. Restaurant and brew house, I think it may be as well, maybe in that order. So it's time to get to our final thoughts on this chain. You guys have been on the show before. You know how this works.

We'll go around. We'll each take a turn, give our closing argument, and then rate it on the order of one to five forks. We'll just go around the room so Hayes, we will start with you. It's so adequate. I just think it can never really be bad. I haven't eaten in a ton of this kind of fast, casual, like business, lunchy place. But every time I've had BJ's, it's been pretty good.

And out of five, I would say this was a 3.7. Wow. Very good. Yeah. That's a good score. That's a good score. Yeah. It's rock solid.

It's, you know, outside of the, I get the same thing every time I go. So for a lunch, I'm going to go get that quinoa bowl. I'm going to look for somebody to split a pizookie with me. And I would say that for me, it's a three out of five. It's more than half way there. Wow. So far, the lowest. We'll see what happens.

I want to say this. I want to hear if people are dessert for lunch people. Anyone out there? What's a good hashtag for that, Wyatt? Dessert for lunch? Yeah. Yeah. Afternoon delight.

Hey, we're getting along now. Hashtag afternoon delight. I love it. I have to be here for this. Sean's thinking back at things that he said that didn't get that positive a response. Everything you said, you're helping us. You're doing great. You're one of the best.

You're the sinister six. It's a real zero sum game. Any laugh you get, that's laugh. I'm not getting. Oh, boy. Oh, my gosh. This is real Wolverine attitudes right here. Wolverine is a comedian?

Snicked. I mean, like he's being negative. PJs, what can I say about this place? What a strange place. It is very generic. It's a very weirdly generic thing that is popular in the food. It's weirdly popular. And the food is just good enough that I kind of enjoy like, because we've been to now a

lot of restaurants like this, Wagga, right? And I'm like, this one stands above other restaurants that are similar, like right? I would say it's in the top half. Oh, for sure. As a sit down chain? Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'll say my thoughts, but yes, I totally agree with that. And so I really enjoy, I mean, we went here, this was Sean, we were very excited to do

this for you. I'm more confused to do this favor to me. You coming on this fucking 1120 PM on a Tuesday, Sean, you're welcome. I meant, I meant we were excited to do this, this restaurant with you and thank you for being on the podcast. I'm a fan of the show, but the time's not great. I'm not working now. I could have done it at two.

I will say this though, I'm confused. I'm confused by the place. It's just a confusing, there's nothing to, now that I've talked to you and I don't even know if you, like you like the bazooki, but I don't even know if you like anything else much about it, but I like it too. It's just kind of good, but I can't even really think of too much else to say about the place. It's better than fine.

It is better than fine and that dessert is pretty good, good service. Oh yeah, the waiter was good. The waiter was very good. He was cool. He gave you a really honest answer when you asked about a menu item and you were like, what's this? And he's like, it's fine. It's another.

He's like, you should get something else. He did. And he was like, and then when I was asking about the bazooki, he was like, that's the best. It was, yeah, it was great. You could tell that he actually did enjoy that salted caramel bazooki. He was cool. He was, I liked him a lot.

He was a good guy. Three and a half forks, three and a half forks. It's good. Very respectable score. And you're welcome, Sean. All right. Thank you. Wait, hold on.

I got to be clear. Thank you guys for doing this. Yes, of course. Please. Being a bad guy. I love BJs. I think BJs is fantastic. Oh God.

I have a great time when we go there. You're the only one who worded this the weird way. I love it. It's a great spot. It's a great chain restaurant. I have a lot of memories wrapped up there. The one right by UCLA in Westwood, I went to UCLA. And so I went there a number of times.

It's where Natalie first met my parents. Wow. So they went to that. BJ's pizzeria had a great time. Can I just say earlier that you were struggling. Armin Weitzman is probably maybe in your top 20 friends. You were struggling to think of a moment in time you've had with Armin. I was put on the spot.

And now you're fondly of having memories of BJ's restaurant. Right. Yeah. I know. I remember the experiences that I've had in this place. That's fair. I remember the meals that I've had. I'm just saying that you couldn't remember anything for a close friend.

I like Armin a lot. Yeah. Putting me on the spot. Okay. He said I love BJs. I do love BJs. BJs is great. Look is it easier for me to find connections to something abstract like a restaurant

or food? Yeah. Even with another human being. Yes. That was my point. I admit that's a personal failing of mine. Yes. Okay.

Fine. You got me dead to rights, Mitch. That's pretty safe, Nick. I'm a weird guy. To love a restaurant's pretty safe. Right. You're fine. You guys have fucking nailed me.

Doesn't expect anything in return, really. We love you for it. All right. We didn't even talk about the pizzas. They have great pizzas there. None of us got the pizza. You said that. Which kind?

The flat ones are the deep dish ones. The deep dish pizza. It's real good. I thought about it. I didn't get that. Let me tell you. That cast iron skillet they bring out the pizookie in, they got like a big one of those for that deep dish pizza and it's so hot they've got like a clamp thingy too.

And yet you think the fucking pizookie has nothing to do with pizza. No, he clearly has a connection to pizza. I'm just saying the pronunciation isn't necessarily, it's not necessarily pizookie. Are you going all the way to pizza pie? No. Pizza pizookie. I think pizookie makes as much sense as pizookie. Pizookie is such an awkward thing to say.

No, pizookie. There's no tea. No, it's pizookie. But you said pizza. Pizza. Pizza has a tea salad in it. What pizza? I'm getting derailed here.

I went to there, I would go to BJs after improv shows. My first short form improv theater I used to do, ultimate improv was right by fucking BJs. Exactly, yes. A lot of lame short form games, we'd go there to the BJs. They have a buy a hero a beer program where you can buy a first responder a beer. That's pretty nice. You also on the last podcast you said you hate improv and you'll never do it again. I do hate improv.

I'll never do it again. Here's all I was going to say, BJs is great, great service, great food, best chain restaurant dessert, high quality pizza, lots of options, encyclopedic menu but one that all is on the same sort of concept, it's not all over the place. Five forks. I love going to BJs. Wow. I should have bumped mine up.

I just thought it was better. I was thinking of taking mine down a little bit but now I feel better. Well yes, hey, it's still open, you can change your scores right now if you want. I'm going to take mine down. I'm going to take mine down. I'm going to take mine down. 3.4. Okay, so you went up a tenth of a percentage, you went down three.

So overall, overall it went down. It went down a little bit. Weiger, is that Westwood one? I've never been, I lived in Westwood for seven years. But that street, you walk down that street and the hookah smell is so strong, I always wondered if it gets into BJs though. They must have three hookah bars on that street. You should go in there and ask for instructions on smoking your weed.

I've been one of those hookah bars, it wasn't a pleasant experience but no, I think it's pretty well insulated. I don't think that hookah gets into that BJ. It wasn't a pleasant experience, is that like, what are you trying to say? Like when I went to the hookah, it's not like a racial thing, I'm not making any sort of commentary on that if that's what you're driving at. But I went to smoke hookah, it was like I didn't have fun smoking hookah. Yeah, it was a cafe, Habibi.

Yeah, it was cafe Habibi or maybe the one across the street from it. There's a few different ones there. But here's the thing I had from smoking hookah is that it was like, we got like jasmine flavor and for me it was just like smoking, dishwashing detergent. It was like such a soapy thing you were inhaling. Was it a freshly washed hookah? I might have been. Well bad choice either.

Why were you smoking hookah? Was it some sort of midlife? I went with some college friends. Midlife, I'm not quite midlife yet. Do you think I'm looking back on a memory of when I was having a midlife crisis? I'm not that old. Isn't that what the oldest podcast basically is? God damn it.

It's time for a regular segment. We've got a food stuff and we're going to decide if it's worth putting in your mouth. It's snack or whack. And this one snack or this episode snack rather comes courtesy of Derek who I met outside of. Derek comedy. SFs. It's not Derek comedy.

Oh, it's not. We're going to get it from the group. No. A guy named, a man named Derek. I'm not in Derek. I'm not in Derek. I know. I know you're not in Derek.

I'm saying you know. But when I first moved to LA and nobody at UCB knew me and sometimes they like wouldn't let me into the theater to like see a show or whatever. But sometimes somebody would and they go like, let him in and they'd be like, he's in Derek. And it's like how I would get in a show. That's messed up that you didn't get let in. Yeah, well. I'm out of the bridge now.

Are you? Are you? Because you were in New York. Right? You did a lot of stuff in New York for a while. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

I knew that. And when you came here, was it weird for you? I'm sorry, Nick. I know this is boring to you. And derailing. No, it's fine. I got to open this candy up anyway. It was fine.

When you first came here, was that a weird kind of transition for the UCB LA? A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. New city. But thank goodness the UCB was here. There was sort of a built in network where there were people I knew I can't imagine moving out with no, no thing like that.

Yeah. You know, must be harder. And why, what was the place you did the theater at? It was called Ultimate Improv. Ultimate Improv. It's now, it's since been shuttered. But a lot of great people came out of there. That's true.

Matt Jones of Breaking Bad and Mom fame. That's right. Heather Ann Campbell who's been on the show before. Very, very funny, very, very funny person or a good friend, Jordan Morris. That's right, Jordan. A great guy. So this came from Derrick at our live show in San Francisco. Yes.

Derrick Gabbas and this is Marzipan and Dolce Peanut Candy and Candy. Piaso brand candy. I'm some sort of Mexican treat. You guys don't have a peanut allergy, do you? No. Okay. I'm going to toss these over to you because this definitely contains peanuts. It's peanut candy Marzipan style.

Here you go. One ounce a piece. All right. Nice catch, Sean. I'm going to flip this one over to Hayes. Oh, a couple of good catches. These look very strange. They're really weird.

They're like cookie shaped. They're little discs that are semi soft. They say De La Rosa's on the outside and they've got a little plastic wrapper. It says Piaso and clown stuff all on the outside but then there's an inner wrapper that has nothing to do with it. I'm not sure. Just like a nice flower. And this is insane.

If I get dosed with this, Ferrell's going to have to close its doors and sue the shit out of this place. I'm wondering if we should eat this because this is insanely crumbly. It's like a thing of brown sugar. Do you think this is how the texture is supposed to be? I'm having a second piece of it even though I don't think I like it. It did just kind of spread out all over my mouth. Oh, wow.

That's really weird. It's very peanutty. It reminds me of something. I actually got a piece. It's intensely peanutty. This can't be right. This can't be how it's supposed to go. It just fell apart instantly.

It completely fell apart. It's like... It tastes like peanut dust. Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's like peanut butter cookie dough if they didn't add any liquid to this. Yes, right. It's 100% right. The only ingredients listed are sugar, peanuts, and artificial flavor.

That sounds right. That sounds what that is. That tastes like what that is. It's a shitload of sugar with a little bit of ground peanut just sort of thrown in there. It is very peanutty. It's just the texture which I believe is not supposed to be like that. It must be old. It tastes like sweet baby powder.

Yeah. Right. Boy, that's just so hard to eat. And I mean... I could see some people liking this a lot. I think some people will like it. I think if you really like peanuts... The flavor could be pleasant for people.

The texture, we gotta take another crack at. Just for convenience reasons, there's no way... We all left a big mound of it in the wrapper. There's no way to eat it without getting it all over yourself or leaving a lot of it. Don't you think they upped the peanut taste and took down a little of the sugar that would be kind of... Yeah, that would happen too. Put it in a shake, you know?

Right. It reminds me of like protein powder or something. Yes. And this is popular wear. It's a Mexican candy? I don't know if it's popular anywhere, but I think it's a Mexican in origin. Yeah, I don't know exactly what's going on with the masa pandolce, but I don't know. I just don't think I could eat...

I couldn't even use this. It was by September 2017. Wow. Okay, so it's supposed to be like this. Yeah, it's supposed to be like this. You know, guys, I don't want to sound like Jafar from Aladdin, but I think I'm going to be a hater here in terms of snack or whack. This is a fucking whack.

I just can't even eat it. Well, that's a thing. Yeah, because it's not bad. I don't mind the taste, but the texture is so whack that it just drags the whole snack into whack. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. There's a snack version of this kind of candy, but this whack shit ain't it.

I agree. This is also, it's not to be Ursula from Little Mermaid. We did that one already. Yeah, Nick said that. Clayton from Tarzan? Maybe? Not to be... Oh, Clayton, yeah.

I've never seen that, so I feel like that's a cheat. Okay. Oh, here's one. Rattigan. Me and Madame Mim. Is that one? What's her name? From The Sword and the Stone?

Yeah, but yeah, she's bad. Is that a Don Bluth? That might be a Don Bluth. Yeah, it might be a Don Bluth. It is. Oh, here's one. Here's one. Woody from Toy Story.

Because he is a hater. He's a total hater. It's true. He's a hater. He learns to love a hater. But it's like... I'm sorry? Woody's a hater.

Fine. I don't mean to be like Woody from Toy Story, a hater, but this is whack. How about Death from Muppet Christmas Carol? Sure. I don't mean to be like Death, but this is whack. Wait, are you talking about the Ghost of Christmas future? Yeah. Oh, shit, it is the Ghost of Christmas.

God damn it. He's Death though, right? Yeah, I'll give it to you. Death from Muppet Christmas Carol. That was... That was snack or whack. I have another correction from a previous episode. Mitch called the Beach Boys out in Pet Sounds, Animal Sounds.

I know. I fucked up, man. Oh, man. People got so mad at that, and I was just trying to think on my feet, and this sucks. It's hard to do this. It is. My mom loves the Beach Boys, and she knows... She would have been mad at me if she heard it.

I fuck up all the time. It really does suck, because the whole thing, and you guys know from doing a podcast, but you're just sort of riffing, and the kind of thing that on an improv stage would be like, oh, it's just ephemeral, it's just disposable, but here it just kind of gets etched in stone, and then people will fucking rake you over the coals for it. Everyone thinks I'm dumb. Everyone who listens to the podcast thinks I'm dumb, and it's your fault. It's not my fault, it's his.

You're doing a lot of heavy lifting in that regard, Mitch. It's not all me. You try to reinforce that stereotype whenever you get a chance, though. You don't think so? All right, I'll stop calling you dumb. I think that you should call me smart every episode. I'm always surprised. By what?

By what? I'm not going to tell you which way it goes. All right, just like a restaurant, we value your feedback, let's open up the feedback. Today's email comes to us from Max Crow. Max writes, You guys burned Andy Puzder for all around being a real-life version of Mr. Burns. Nick then remarked how the head of Yum Brands is likely on the level of the Carl's Jr. CEO.

For a little context real quick, this tangent, Andy Puzder is Donald Trump's nominee for Secretary of Labor and was the head of Carl's Jr. Hardee's. Continuing on. I want to bring to your attention the hilarious political reality that Taco Bell has an official political action committee named Taco Pack, which has doled out nearly $400,000 in political contributions. I know this from working on democratic political campaigns, where inevitably at some point during the campaign your Republican opponent will receive a four-figure check from Taco

Pack and you must hold out from eating at the golden plate establishment until the conclusion of the election cycle. Doing so leads to an affliction known as being more firm. Enjoy the show. Don't get on the wrong side of Taco Pack like I have. They'll immediately stop sponsoring or even funding a podcast in opposition to your own. Probably Fresco Boys or some shit like that. That's cute.

A lot of fun, Max. Thanks for the information. But I think it kind of tracks what we know of the food service industry is that a lot of these... Was that a question? I just felt like it was information that was thrown at us. I guess it was just informational. It didn't really lead to a question.

He's not so dumb anymore. He knows the difference between a question and information. Doe Boys, my whole new goal of Doe Boys is that by the time this podcast ends, people will think of me as a genius. If you send a sentence and it doesn't have a question mark at the end, but just a period, oh, Mitch, I'll catch on to your shit. It's not a question. Not right away, but...

Do you guys have any thoughts on the ethics of eating at a restaurant that has maybe shady business practices or that maybe is like, okay, I'm eating at a... The Chick-fil-A Conundrum. Exactly. Yes, yeah, yeah. The Chick-fil-A Conundrum is a big one. I've never eaten there. Have you?

You've really never eaten there? It's true. It's true. Is that for that reason? Well, it's partially because they didn't have anywhere I grew up. Right. But then since, I guess, people have been like, oh, Chick-fil-A, it's coming. And then there was controversy around it, and I was like, well, I don't like care to

try it. Right. I guess if I had eaten it in the past and loved it and had happy memories there and was like, I want to try it and was near it, it would be a lot harder for me to take any kind of moral stand. It's very easy to just go like, well, I've never eaten it, I'm not going to start. There's like problems with the, you know, where that guy puts his money. I think it actually has affected me.

I won't jump to go to Chick-fil-A ever. I mean, I don't think I would anyways, and maybe that's when we have to revisit because we went a long time ago now, early on in the podcast, but... It's weird. Sorry, please continue. I'm just saying like, it's fine. Every time I go there, I'm like, yeah, that's good. It's nothing that I like ever, I'm like really craving, and then on top of that where I'm

like, I don't like some of their business ethics or what, you know, I don't like whatever they do. I'm not a fan of, I'm a fan of people doing whatever they want to do, and they shouldn't... Restaurants especially shouldn't be involved in any of that. So... Right. I know that there's always, I mean, we talk about this all the time, that there's bad guys who own all these places, and it's almost inevitable that if you're a multimillionaire

that you have some... I'm putting money in the pocket of bad people buying any kind of large scale product. That's true. It's almost... Yeah. It's so hard to, it just is the way it is, right? That's just capitalism. Yes.

So, but I mean like, I feel like they went like above and beyond to kind of be shitty. It's just, you know for sure, like it's like, if I go to eat at McDonald's, then I'm going like, it's probably putting money somewhere bad, and they're probably trying to do something good, and I don't really know the ins and outs of it, but it's like, with Chick-fil-A, it's like, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the dude who made the most money off of that place is like, doesn't like gay people, and is like putting money into being like, yeah, no one else should either, or they shouldn't be allowed to live their lives. So you go like, it's a lot harder to look that in the face, but for the most part, you

kind of, there's like an ignorance-is-bliss thing going on. And for some places, you don't know, like Subway, for example, the guy that, like, you're paying just owns a franchise. A lot of times, yes. Like, think for Subway, that's almost always the case. So it's, yeah, I don't know, it's tough to, I like in a place like LA, you know that the minimum wage is going to be a little higher or something like that. Yeah, I mean, that's for me, for my standpoint, I'm more concerned, I'm chiefly concerned

with labor issues, like I like places that have, and that is one thing I've heard about Chick-fil-A, it could be an error, but I've heard the labor practices at Chick-fil-A are pretty good. Yeah, they're happy. It's a drink for the employees. But... Starbucks. Yeah, I don't know exactly, but I've heard Starbucks, at least they have...

They're great, they have, like, health care and, like, great wages are a little higher. Papa John, a piece of shit when it comes to that, said he was going to reduce wages because of Obamacare. And he pestered the same sort of thing, he's paying people sub-minimum wage in some cases. And paid knitting last year during the Super Bowl that we didn't hear, see any of those tweets. That's true, huh? So what the fuck?

Paid manning. Paid manning. Paid manning's piling around with the labor enemy and... He kissed him after the game. I did see some tweets about that. A couple of buddhivis. Paid manning. Paid manning sucks.

And no one ever... But they were nicer... There was no doubt that they were... Absolutely. The old general, one last ride. He's fucking sucks. Yeah, he's the worst. And...

Trash. You know what? I think... I don't know what to do on this podcast. But part of me thinks that we should never talk about politics ever again on this podcast. Right? But there's a play. Don't say that.

I don't think you can talk about food in America. I don't think you can talk about chain restaurants without talking about politics at some point. You think it's inherently a part of what they are. I think it's part... I think it's going to be a part of the discussion. I also think it's part of who you and I are. Like I think we are people who are conscious and aware of politics and have opinions on it.

So that's gonna come out. Maybe more so for me. You're smart now, Met. Remember your... What else are we... You're smart now. What else are we gonna do? We're gonna keep having the same fucking conversations about The Force Awakens every single episode.

Like we keep rehashing that same shit. So why not broaden it to some other topics? Yes. Is Blimpy's out here? I think Blimpy's is out here, yeah. I got a Blimpy story speaking of franchise. Go for it. I like owning a franchise.

So I worked with this guy Tony on this like labor crew that I was on. And Tony one day shows up and quits. He's like my cousin bought a Blimpy's down in DC. I'm gonna go down there. I'm on salary now. He starts telling us how much he's gonna make. He's like he got me a car. I'm gonna have my own car.

I'm gonna run the Blimpy's for him. He's like I'm all set. So we're like okay great. So he like takes off and like good luck Tony. And like a month later I show up to a job and Tony's there. And it's like Tony, what happened? I thought you're working at your cousin's Blimpy's and he looks at me and he goes he got brand new on me.

Wow. And I'd never heard that phrase before and I've been meaning to use it. What does it mean? What does it mean? It means that like when he showed up his cousin's story had completely changed. Oh. Wow. Like he didn't get the car.

He didn't get the salary he was promised and he was like well we gotta do like some other stuff first. It was a hustle. I misinterpreted it. He went brand new on them. I thought brand new meant like he'd gotten too big for him. That's what I thought too. That's what I thought too.

Maybe he could mean that too. I think it does mean that too. It means like he was pocketing more of the money for himself. He didn't want the sort of equal partnership I guess that had been discussed and he got brand new. The deal got new. It got changed. You gotta book Tony on the show for us too.

You should get him. I hope he's doing okay. We'll fit him in between Pearlman and Rubenstein. One time he shot himself with the water gun, put a big hole in his leg, it was like a pressure washer job. Wow. Oh man. They can put a hole in you?

Oh yeah. Oh Jesus Christ. Had a zero point tip on. Yeah I've seen those 3600 PSI or some shit. Those things are like strip off sighting. They're really really intense. How come there should be a kid, like what's his name in No Country for Old Men has the cattle bolt stoner.

Yeah that's a cool death weapon isn't it that I feel like we haven't seen. Right. A pressure washer. Give it to Voorhees in a future Jason movie. Yeah that's good. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants and Mitch will tell if it's a comment and not a question. You can email us at tellboyspodcasts at gmail.com.

Oh so we can be political. You just know that we got a couple emails. That's all I'll say. Oh we get some blowback. We get some blowback. People get fucking mad because we rate a restaurant four forks that they think should be five forks. I'll clear it up. These guys support Jared from Subway.

They think it should be a separate, there's another episode they think it should be a separate issue. It's a political issue to them. They say how can you demonize someone just for his politics. That love is love. This is their position. This is Mitch and Nick and they don't like that everyone suddenly got their pitchforks out when it's like the guy makes great commercials.

You see how big his pants used to be. We call ourselves the friends of Jared. If you've got a Mitch roast from the top of the show, roastspoonman at gmail.com, check out our Facebook page, Doughboyz, follow us on Twitter at Doughboyzbottom, you have a free second, rate and review us on iTunes. Hey, it's Sean. Thank you so much for joining us, giving up so much of your time, staying so late in a fucking weeknight.

It's almost witching hour. We apologize. Do you have anything you would like to plug at this time? I don't think so. Also a few episodes ago, Mitch was trying to remember a movie where Sean Penn was bald. I think that was Carlitos way. So that's my plug. Okay.

Yup. I fucked up on that one, too. That wasn't a fuck up. I just couldn't remember. Thank you. Thank you, guys. I don't know. I don't know.

I like you. Listen, I only would handbook. If you haven't seen Bad Boys with Sean Penn and Eastside Morales, they're both like 15 in that movie. It's not bad. It's called Bad Boys? I think it is. Because the way it does, yeah, because there's, all right.

Colors is good, too. I watched Colors recently. I liked it a lot. I liked it. Any last second Oscar picks? Oh, you know who's going to win the Oscars? Same people will win every year. The Trolls.

Oh, boy. Her best song. You heard it here first. Trolls will win an Oscar. Hashtag, Oscars so troll. Oh, my God. For Doughboy's podcast. This is Nick and Mitch.

See ya. Bye.