Doughboys - Bowlero with Allan McLeod

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

Allan McLeod aka "Molasses Boy" (@allanmcleod, Walkin' About) joins the 'boys to talk walking, U.S. Presidents, and to revisit an old video before a review of Bowlero. Plus, a special edition... of Slop Quiz.Check out the Piss Drinking Prank on YouTube!Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://theconversation.com/decoding-the-music-masterpieces-ravels-bolero-a-sinuous-and-sexy-composition-with-no-music-in-it-149528https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/i/ivry-ravel.htmlhttps://www.classicfm.com/composers/ravel/guides/ravel-15-facts/maurice-ravel-15/https://www.wpr.org/culture/infamous-bolerohttps://la.curbed.com/2016/5/5/11597932/bowling-alleys-bowlmor-bowlerohttps://www.bowlerocorp.com/about-bowlerocorpSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel at youtube.com slash doughboysmedia. Is he pleased to hear his music? You cannot tell. What an odd fellow. This was French socialite Madame Renée de Saint-Marceau writing in her diary on a performance she witnessed by Basque composer Maurice Ravel.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Considered part of the early 20th century French Impressionist school, along with Claude Debusset and Eric Satie, though Ravel himself disliked the label, his career, despite staggering critical and commercial success, is considered to have been something of a waste of potential, at least by the composer himself.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Ravel's best-remembered work, a commission for a Russian ballerina titled Bolero, was a dance in the three-four time signature that loops variations on its same simple melodic phrasing for its entire fifteen-minute runtime. The piece has an intoxicating and seductive quality that has made it endure for a century, though Ravel agreed with an elderly woman who heckled the piece's premiere by shouting, Rubbish! Rubbish! According to Maurice's brother, the noposer responded, quote, That old lady got the message.
Starting point is 00:01:21 In pop culture, Ravel's Bolero was most famously used to romantic effect in the 1979 Dudley Moore-Bo Derek film Ten, a timeless tale about a horny old guy who dreams of railing a hot young beach babe. And it is the surprising durability of Ravel's ballet that has led to its use as a brand name for a sprawling US bowling alley chain. The company began its current life in 1997 after business school graduate Tom Shannon retrofitted a stodgy Manhattan bowling center into a trendsetting glow-in-the-dark lane with high-end food and cocktails. Shannon's NYC hotspot would grow into a 10-pin empire, and in 2013 its parent company merged with flailing industry dinosaur AMF Bowling,
Starting point is 00:02:05 overtaking its 300 plus locations and modernizing them with standardized menus, faux neon lighting, and Dave and Buster style arcades. With the merger came the rebrand to the punny Bowling Bolero Portmanteau, which no doubt would have been as annoying to Ravel as the success of its namesake composition. So is the nature of brands, that a famously fastidious French composer's ballet could become such an over-saturated pop culture touchstone that it's re-appropriated as the name of an American bowling alley chain, where Ravel's languorous compositions would never co-mingle with its dated dad rock playlist. And so is the nature of
Starting point is 00:02:45 creativity itself, that an artist's most enduring singular work can be one they personally disdain, that massive success many dream of can be considered a crushing personal disappointment. As Ravel said himself, quote, I've written only one masterpiece, Bolero. Unfortunately, there's no music in it. This week on Doughboyz, BOL-laro. Double heart doughnut boy. Double heart doughnut boy. Double heart doughnut boy. Welcome to Doughboy's, the podcast about chain restaurants.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm Nick Weiger along with my cohost, Blue Diamond Phillips, the spoon man, Mike Mitchell. I don't mind that one, that's all right. Because we know- Blue Diamond Phillips. Blue Diamond Phillips, like Lou Diamond Phillips, Blue Diamond, the almond brand. I like this roast Phillips, is that Blue Diamond the Almond brand. I like this roast. Well, maybe you'll like this.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I like my almonds, I like the roast. I met Lou Diamond Phillips once, he was lovely. What do you think of you? I don't know, weird. We're like dog boys lately, huh? Jemmy's really taking over the show. We should talk about how Jemmy, Emma, you were telling us this before we record, got recognized.
Starting point is 00:04:10 She did. We were, Mike, our video editor, plays softball, so he was playing a softball game last weekend and Jemmy and I went to watch and someone on the other team had a dog who came and said hi and recognized Jemmy from the show, so then they went and got their friend who also came and said hi. So it was Gemini from the Doughboy. She's a little celebrity. Wow. Wow. Has Jemmy changed at all?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah, her rates went up, so here we'll get a bill. Uh-oh. Why don't we get Wally and Erma in here instead? I don't know if we can afford. If Jemmy joins the union. She'll take payment and cheese sticks out, so it's fine. I mean, if we secured this room and let Wally and Armand lose for an episode, it would be very funny. It would be a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You can see how scared they are of me. They're more afraid of men. That's right. Jimmy too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what the deal is. What's wrong else, it's something, I don't know what the deal is. What's wrong with us men, right? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Kind of the world at large is the issue there. Yeah. You can't be a man anymore. Yeah, I know, men like us have been. The crime to have testosterone? Yeah, I mean, if so, we're not breaking any laws. Yeah. Blue Diamond Phillips. We were gonna check our tea at one point, we're not breaking any laws. What's our tea?
Starting point is 00:05:25 We were going to check our tea at one point. We never did. We never did. Blue Diamond Phillips, because we know Mitch loves a spicy almond. Hey Doe Fam, thanks for bringing me so much joy over the years. You've kept me company during many long
Starting point is 00:05:35 pandemic walks and middle of the night baby feedings. I can't thank you enough for all the laughs during both tough and good times. Keep them coming, Liz. PS. Hopefully you're feeding a baby with baby feedings. Thank you enough for all the laughs during both tough and good times, keep them coming, Liz. P.S. Hopefully you're feeding a baby with baby feedings. Sounds scary if not.
Starting point is 00:05:51 What do you think is happening? Late night pandemic walks and baby feedings? Sounds Dracula behavior. I don't think our submitter is a Dracula. P.S. Your show will be forever linked with my son's birth story. As I found out I was pregnant while watching the Do-A-Thon.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I haven't seen any noticeable effect on him due to this so far, although he does say wow a lot. Roastedbirdfuck.com. What a story, Liz. Thank you. Beautiful. Yeah. There will be like a story in the future where like
Starting point is 00:06:23 babies, babies born during the there's no babies that were, no one was making love during the dough with on. Some people were maybe having some partnerless love making when I was asleep in my bed. There was a moment where they're in the dough-a-thon where you didn't come on the dough-a-thon. We're gonna get you on for dough-a-thon too, which will never happen, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:06:51 No, that was one type of thing. It's not gonna happen again. We did it once, it was fine. It was a feat of it. I'm kinda overdoing feats of endurance. Just it destroys my body and brain. I like staying up. We did a 25 hour dough-a-thon.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. I like staying up. I think it 25 hour dough-a-thon. Yeah. I like staying up. I think it's fun. I don't have fun. But I said to you that you should sleep. Yeah, but just like there was all sorts of issues involved with it. One is that I had to run OBS off of my computer.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And so that's this whole thing that I had to be minding at the whole time. All right, here's the deal. You don't gotta do that this time. Who's gonna do it? I'll do it. Thank you, grandma. I right, here's the deal. You don't gotta do that this time. Who's gonna do it? I'll do it. Thank you, grandma. I got it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 We'll see. We should point out that Casey isn't here. Casey normally sitting behind the producer's desk. He said he had to go see Dune II again. I got some mango. Mitch, I have an orange on standby. You gonna dig into that mango now? I'm gonna dig into that mango now.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Are you gonna dig into that orange right now? No, I'm gonna hold on it for a second. Here's the deal also, I gave you and our guests. Yes. Look, let's hit them with the drop, Emma. Well, the first time I ever visited New York, we were in Times Square and I can just remember it now. Wow, look at all the signs.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Coca-Cola. Coming through. Wow. I only get out of the street. Watch out everybody. Mitch, that was great. We just lost 50,000 subscribers. I kind of remember this.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Wow, our guest included in the drop. How often does that happen? That's crazy. A nice little bit of Kismet, as they say. Kismet, good restaurant. There is Kismet Rotisserie. They do have Kismet Rotisserie here in LA. It is a nice chicken spot.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Drop from Bolero with Alan MacLeod. Just so you know, that's the episode today. Yes. Hey guys, here's a drop from way back in 2017. Mitch helps Alan tell the tale of his first visit to New York City. I'd say it's royalty free, but I am the drop king. Cheers, DK.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Oh wow, that's why. Wow, DK submitted it. That's why, it was a ringer. How about that? Cheers, DK. PS, congrats to Alan on his new podcast, Walking About. Me and my buddy Ralph Bumbo used to watch him That's why I was a ringer. DK submitted it. How about that? She is DK. PS, congrats to Alan on his new podcast, Walking About.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Me and my buddy Ralph Boombo used to watch him stream Horizon Zero Dawn on Twitch. So we've already seen him walking about digitally in the apocalypse. Wow. Wow, that's so nice. Different sort of traversal. DK, uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I'm gonna do that again. I wanna do more of that. I'm gonna close this curtain. All right, haze, haze. More streaming. Oh. Did they walk by? that. You gotta close these curtains. More streaming. Oh, did they walk by? Mitch got scared because the Handbook guys walked by. Mitch choked.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I choked. I wanna know more about this Ralph Boom-Bo character. Ralph Boom-Bo. This is a new peripheral figure in the DK mythos. DK, that was really cool. Don't pull that shit ever again. That was great. Good job, DK. Yeah. Good job, DK.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, good job, DK. The handbook guys are here. They took all the parking spots today. Well, they were also here earlier. Yeah. We were here earlier. We were a part of Headgum earlier. Good point, Mitch.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You wanna go tell them that? No. I want you guys to try my mango. I do want to try the mango. We can touch the mango, you're saying. You can touch the mango today. Wow. But Casey's not here, which means Amelia is sitting in. Hi, Amelia.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Hi, freaks. Nice to have you over there at the producer's desk. It's nice to be here. By the way, I am looking at testosterone kits right now. Would you rather have a finger prick one or a saliva one? Good question. What's more accurate? Yeah. Do we know what's more accurate? I would guess the blood is more accurate. I thought it would prick your dick. We can get the
Starting point is 00:10:40 finger prick ones and prick our dicks. We'll prick our dicks. We prick the prick. I'm assuming you can prick wherever you want. It's really up to you. Most people choose the finger, but if you choose to prick your dick, I think that's fine. I was gonna say an eyelid prick. I feel like it's gonna hurt.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I was gonna say I wanna do that. Are we gonna be the two people who pass out doing the testosterone test from the finger prick? Well, I mean, if you do it in your dick, it is gonna hurt. No, I meant the finger prick is gonna hurt. Oh, the finger, yeah, that might hurt. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Sometimes those aren't like very, I've gotten those before though, and sometimes they don't really feel like anything. They're just gonna like, go like, ow, it's not that bad. Yeah, that ow sounds bad. Here, I'm gonna hand you this. Try a little piece of the mango. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Is this spicy? Look, there's tahini and chamoy on there, and then it's covered in lime juice. Let's see what he thinks. A little taste at the top of the episode. Is this from your neighborhood fruit vendor? That's delicious. And is this all mango?
Starting point is 00:11:32 This is all mango today. Wow, you went 100% mango. You just went up to your buddy Victor and were like, put the pineapple aside. I said, Victor. Don't touch the honeydew, get the strawberries out of here. Cut the bullshit, give me all mango. This is great.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Pretty good, right? That's a really, really delicious snack. I don't have a fork. Mango, big or go home. I don't know, I don't have two other forks. I do like mango, big or go home. What the hell? I'm about to eat more of that, you freaks.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Oh, you can do it. Yeah, they can touch an individual piece and not contaminate it, it's gonna be fine. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my fucking mango. Well, to quote Alan, mango bigger, go home. Is that what he just said? That's what he said, you missed it. I'm sad I missed it. It was really good, it was really good.
Starting point is 00:12:20 All right, here we go. What do you think? That's delicious. Delish. Mitch, while you're eating. That's great. That's it. All right, here we go. What do you think? That's delicious. Delish. Mitch, while you're eating your- That's great. Savannah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Victor, your fruit man, he does good work. Before we, while you're still munching on that, can I show you a new character I came up with on the way over here? I would love to see it. All right, so I'm wearing this hoodie for people who are listening to audio feed, and it's got kind of these thick straps.
Starting point is 00:12:43 This is good. These thick, like the, the hoodie string, whatever you call that. And so I, I just found myself doing this. This is good. This is. I can kind of fashion it into a handlebar mustache and now I'm sheriff hoodie.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Y'all making mischief? Sheriff hoodie might need to get involved. Sheriff hoodie, don't cotton, don making mischief? Sheriff Hoodie might need to get involved. Sheriff Hoodie don't cotton no mischief. Anyway, that's the guy. Did you drive today? Were you doing this while you were driving? Yeah, one-handed. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Okay, great. Because I was afraid it was like just for men, Hitler at first. It looked like you had a Hitler mustache and it was like just for men, Hitler at first. It looked like you had a Hitler mustache and it was brown. So I think this is more handle. This is more James. You're covering up. Oh, I am. What I'm saying. OK, so I guess.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, I got to hold it like this. I think you're going to hold it like that. So I'm just holding my two fingers under my nose so you can see more of a handlebar. Yeah. And the voice makes me picture like a white hood. Oh, it looks a little Klansman-y. It looks a little Klansman-y. That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Whale Sheriff Hoodie don't cut no Klan rallies. Ha ha ha! Oh, progressive. Part of his character, he's progressive. Sheriff Hoodie is progressive, I like that. I like that. Now, do you think you need to put little knots in there so that the string doesn't get caught in the hood?
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's what I'm afraid of, I've had that happen with it, but this one's pretty, it's pretty thick, so I think it's kind of hard to yank all the way through. I think you gotta come up with a Sheriff Hoodie antagonist. Like, you know. Right, like a. Like Sergeant Sweater. Sergeant Sweater's pretty good. I guess it would be a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It would be like a bandit, right? Corporal Turtleneck. Like Crewneck Lou. Crewneck Lou is pretty fucking good. I'm not sure, were you just- I was working on that one separately. That's very weird. Well, we have a nice little bit of synergy here, just kind of organically.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You know, we've known each other a long time, so probably it's kind of a little bit of hive mind going on. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Our guest today- Crewneck Lou is pretty good. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's very weird. Well, we have a nice little bit of synergy here, just kind of organically. You know, we've known each other a long time, so probably it's kind of a little bit of hive mind going on. Our guest today. Crewneck Lou is pretty good. Yeah, crewneck. Honestly, Sheriff Hoodie, see you later. Crewneck Lou. Crewneck Lou is the star of the show.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Crewneck Lou is the breakout character? He's the breakout character. Oh man, well, it's all right. It happens sometimes, it's like Urkel. Sometimes it takes Sheriff Hoodie to get to crew neck Lou. Sheriff Hoodie is the Carl Winslow to crew neck Lou Steve Urkel. Our guest today, actor, comedian,
Starting point is 00:15:12 and host of the great podcast, Walking About, molasses boy himself, Alan McLeod. Alan, great to have you back. Oh man, so good to be here, y'all. Thank you for having me. What an absolute hoot. I've been listening to Walking About. Oh yeah?
Starting point is 00:15:25 There are two episodes out as of this recording. There will be more out by the time this episode releases, but you did one with the great Janet Farney and one with her own Mike Mitchell, the Spoon Man. Listen to y'all walk around the Silver Lake Reservoir. I heard that one live, because of we were doing it. We had a blast.
Starting point is 00:15:42 We had a very good time. It's such a fun pod, because it's just two people walking around a different LA environment and then discussing it. It's really great. Oh, thanks so much. Yeah. And you give a lot of great history. Like you give a lot of context for where you're walking. And I recorded an episode with you that will be out at some point. But that was a really fun pod to do and it's a really great concept. Oh man. Thanks so much. Yeah. both are great episodes that y'all did. I really appreciate you doing them.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Are you like, are the people at your network worried about Weigars episode coming out, just like with the ratings and everything like that? Or like, how do they feel like? They're mostly just worried about you getting canceled between here and there. Yeah, oh, you have a lot of strong takes on that episode. I did insist we did.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You're in sheriff hoodie. Yeah, that's American. I'm kind of doing sheriff Hoodie the whole time. I also insisted that the neighborhood we walked around was the perimeter of a middle school. So... LAUGHS It was maybe a little suspect.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Sheriff Hoodie's gonna put an end to these college protests. LAUGHS The sheriff that works on a campus. Yeah, the counter protest, because he's progressive as we've just talked about. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's what it is. OK, the counter protest, because he's progressive as well. Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it is. Okay, so, but how did you get so into walking?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Because I am also a guy who walks, Mitch, I know has been walking a lot lately. I've been walking a lot. What got you into just walking around LA, not just the most walkable of cities? It's true. I feel like I had a lot of different things that I enjoyed doing that all kind of related to walking.
Starting point is 00:17:06 So I loved like walking tours. I've always loved those. I've always loved audio tours, immersive theater, which is like a walking experience. And then I just started kind of walking around for just health reasons, you know, just like it started occurring to me. I could just walk for no reason at all.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I don't know. It doesn't have to be related to an event or something. You know, and every time I go to like a new city, I'm always like, is there, is there a walking tour I can like sign up for? So I love that stuff. Um, but then, you know, we had a kid and so I was like strolling a lot. You got to stroll your kid around, walk around. We were in Pasadena at that time.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So I was strolling around Pasadena. I was like, man, this is great. It was just, kid around, walk around. We were in Pasadena at that time. So I was strolling around Pasadena. I was like, man, this is great. It's just, just nice to walk around. And I don't know what it was like some for somewhere along the line, just like noticing that you just get more connected. You feel a little more connected to where you are when you're on foot. As opposed to what most people do. Cause you have to do it in LA, is drive,
Starting point is 00:18:06 which leaves everything kind of like, I don't know, it just leaves everything sort of devoid of any meaning when you're just passing by and you never know what that building is or what this area is or this public space is. And so I just got really into walking around and learning about the built environment and all that stuff. Peeping, as some would say.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, yeah. It was a little bit of like, you know, look, I mean, people get undressed in all kinds of weird places, you can take a little look-see and no crime. Is that a crime? Oh, yeah, I think it is. Oh, it's a crime, yeah. Oh, no, well, nevermind, nevermind. Yeah, anyway. No crime here. Oh, no, I think I see it. Oh, really? Oh, no, well, never mind, never mind. Yeah, anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Uh. No crime here. Oh, no, it is. So yeah, I don't know. It was just like, there was all these different aspects of my life that kind of like all went to walking. And I was just like, I wonder if there's like, I'm curious like what other people's experiences walking are.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Like where they walk, like where you like to walk, where Mitch likes to walk, where, you know, why things are significant, you know, like places like that are significant to you, because often you're not really, places become more significant when you are connected to them, like through walking around them. I just got a new walk. I do a Los Feliz walk often.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Oh, that's nice. It's not the same one we did. Look, when I first heard from Alan, molasses boy, he's like, let's do a walk. I was like, this is gonna take fucking five hours with molasses boy. Turns out, who would have guessed it? He's faster than me. I mean, who would guess that?
Starting point is 00:19:35 But you're a pretty brisk walker. You keep a good pace, not too fast. I can modulate. A walking enthusiast. I definitely got winded doing the walking pod with you. Oh yeah? Yeah. Well, yeah, that's something you gotta watch out for.
Starting point is 00:19:48 There's always gonna be a wind warning. Where did you get winded on the fucking path out of your fucking apartment building? Fat fuck. I think it's a great idea. Yeah. Thank you. And as children, we're so eager to walk. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And then we take a few steps, we sit right in the gaming chair. Mitch, well said. Let me go ahead and walk over to charge my iPad. This pisses me off. These gifts that God gave us and we spit in his face with our charging devices. Padoo, Padoo, we say to the Almighty Father. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's disgraceful. You know what, say a prayer tonight. Just say a single prayer tonight. See how it makes you feel. It'd be so easy to pivot into just like a men's rights Christian podcast. You're really almost there. We're almost there. So just say one prayer tonight. See how it makes you feel.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Amelia, are you, cause Emma, I know you like- Let me guess. I pray for my devices to charge quicker. You sick fucks. You son of a bitch. Sorry. Sorry, I'm worked up. I'm really worked up about this. Just take a breather.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Emma, I know you're walking Jemmy all the time. Amelia, are you much of a walker? I like to walk, yeah. Silver Lake Reservoir sometimes. Great spot, yeah. I never see you there. Weird, I'm so always walking. I've really been doing it a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Where else? Around Echo Park. Yeah, yeah. Don't give them too much. Okay. Just for our listeners. Echo Park Lake, also a good walk. A great walk, a great walk in the lake.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Good stairs over there by Elysium Park too, those Baxter Stairs. Love stairs. Dog's a great reason to get a walk in. Hopefully Apple doesn't introduce the dog pad soon. Then they'll be taking a few steps over to the charging stations. Sorry, Jemmy's not available for the Doughboy's podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:55 She's playing on her dog pad. Oh my God. She's addicted to dog fruit ninja. I can't think of a more dystopian future wise than that. Than dog pads left and right. I mean, the natural, you know, next step is cat pad. Oh my God. Well, you know, all they do is sleep all day.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And then the cat pad is added to the mix. Should we have done eye paw? Is that cleaner? That's good. Why you gotta punch me up in the middle of the thing? Dog pad was pretty good. Dog That's good. Why you gotta punch me up in the middle of the thing? Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Dog pad was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Dog pad is good. If the cats learn about that there's like a mouse they can click on, then it's fucking over. That it's all over. That it's all over. It's fucking over. I've never told Wally Carver. Ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:22:39 What do they think that is? Uh, I call it the clicking contraption. Ha ha ha! They're fine with that. Okay. Yeah. They would be very upset with me lying. What is the, what is the walking scene like in, where you're from in Alabama?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Cause I know a lot of, a lot of the South is like, you know what, I've had friends with the South that I've talked to that are like, my neighborhood didn't even have sidewalks, you know? And I know that's a lot of America. Can I guess? Let's walk and get a sweet tea. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Is that pretty close? Yeah, that's basically, I mean, that's basically what it is. There's not a lot of walking, you know, there's really, I don't know, like statewide, I can't speak for every- Sure. But it is not-
Starting point is 00:23:23 Where are you specifically from in Alabama? Mobile, I was born in Florence, lived in Macon, Georgia for a while and then mostly grew up in Mobile, Alabama. So there is a beautiful downtown Mobile area that's very walkable with parks- You get your sweet tea there. And that's where I get the sweet tea. Fans for the front porch.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I have a little mint julep later on the, on the porch. Um, but the, it's fantastic. Honestly, there's, there's, there's pockets. Um, I would say like, I used to ride the bus, like the city bus to get two different city buses to get to school as a kid. And it was like, you're just standing in grass, like on the side of a busy street. And the thing, but the thing I've realized is it's not that different from a lot of places in LA. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:11 There's not even enough, much less a sidewalk. There's not even like a grassy patch. You can kind of stand on if you wanted to just, if this is your most direct route, this or that road, you may not have access. And so it's just like, that's sort of become part of this, this, uh, experience or whatever is just learning like more about urbanism and how people get around on foot, it's like, or on bikes or skateboards or scooters or what have you. Like it's, uh, it's all kind of in the same, it's all in the same family.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You know, many grassy knolls and Alabama. There's not many, there's not many, if all in the same family. You know. Not many grassy gnolls in Alabama. There's not many, there's not many, if there was, trust me, I'd know. I'd be lining it up right now, but lining up that shot. That walk. I mean that walk, that walk, that walk. But what you're talking about, cause I know you're also.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I mean, I honestly, I feel like it's a, it's a good thing for safety to get rid of all grassy gnolls. Yeah. They're like a, you know, a danger, like a menace, especially if you're a public figure. Just get them out of here. Just torch them, I say.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I say torch the grassy gnolls. Throw some gasoline. I'll never forget what they did to Kennedy. He, he changed everything for us in Massachusetts wise. You don't get it. It was like, it was life changing when he was elected. It was like a big thing that like we have a Catholic president, which is wild to think about. My mom pulls that bullshit sometimes. You don't understand. It was crazy. They elected, I was like, I don't give a shit. We can do it again now. RFK Junior, man.
Starting point is 00:25:44 We got it. We got our new guy. Has there not been another Catholic president since then? I think, Carter was a Baptist. Biden's Catholic, okay, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, that's it since? I think so. Wow. Joe Biden is Catholic. Is Catholic.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But that's it since JFK? I think so, but there haven't been that many presidents either, right? It's like six guys. Who do we have left? It was JFK? Well, no, no, JFK, then LBJ, famously big hogged LBJ, called his hog Jumbo. Was he Catholic?
Starting point is 00:26:20 I don't think he was Catholic. Was that thing circumcised? Cut off a good foot of that thing. No, that's why he hit the, he hit the length requirement cause he was uncut, intact. Yeah, that adds on. Yeah, that does. Like it kind of gives a windsock sort of quality to it. What are the bushes?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Are they, uh. I don't think the bushes are. George Bush, born in Milton, the town next door to me. I mean, W was evangelical, right? Oh, that's right. He's not from Texas. George H. Herbert Walker was born in Massachusetts, Milton, Mass, next door to Quincy, Mass.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You got LBJ, you got Tricky Dick. You got kind of just really- Tricky Dick had a weird- That's the thing, yeah. Kind of like kind of sort of like hung like a J. It was just sort of- Yeah. Ha ha ha sort of. Yeah. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. This initial has to suck your dick. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. That's a meme, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah, yeah it is. Thank you. Ha ha ha. It's me looking at two older people who have no idea and then looking over here for, and they got it. I don't know the memes anymore. It made sense. I'm absolutely not an idiot. There's like a a thing that's like this person owes you like a meal and it's always a J. So it's saying like the J this person tests and then it's like I
Starting point is 00:27:32 don't know. Got it. It kind of worked. I get it. What I see are usually like this person is this initial is going to shit their pants in bed later tonight. What the fuck are you looking at? That's what shows up. I would be afraid to look at the skid mark Instagram account. I'm terrified to see what's on there. Mine is like this initial owes you a burrito and then they like put sauce on a tortilla in the shape
Starting point is 00:27:58 of an initial or something. Yes, and it's always J. That's what my feed is. It is always J. This is so, I will just say hearing the second hand is baffling. Do you have any idea what was being described? I have no idea, no. I'm not, but I didn't wanna interrupt cause I'm hoping to kinda learn more.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You guys will get it soon enough. I mean, it's, we've talked about this before, like the internet, like Instagram, well, Instagram still is kinda holding on, I guess, a little bit, but Twitter is like a mess. It doesn't make any sense anymore. I mean, did it ever make any sense? There was a time when it was a more functional site.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I'm sorry, I mean, I'm in X. I mean, I'm in X. Thank you, Jesus. So you have JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton. They're skull and crossbones guys, aren't they? Yeah, W Bush, then you got Obama, Trump, and I guess it is 12 presidents since JFK, right? Damn.
Starting point is 00:28:56 11 or 12? Can we pledge the skull and crossbones? How do you get in that? I think you gotta be a Yale-y, right? Oh, shit. It's for Yale only. Can we still go to Yale? I thought they had something there. Yeah, back to school wives and I go to Yale. Oh, right? It's for Yale only. Can we still go to Yale? I thought they had something at a school. Yeah, back to school.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Why didn't I go to Yale? I thought they had something at Alabama. Oh, do they have an Alabama division? Well, I think they call it the machine or something. Interesting. Yeah. Was this available at U of A? I mean, it exists at UA.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Got it. It wasn't available to me, but. Right, but if you- Seems like you maybe have some secret to hide here. Are you a member of the machine? Oh man, I wish. What is, it's a secret society sort of thing? I think it's like a, yeah, it's like,
Starting point is 00:29:32 well, it's like what Skull and Bones is, you know, it's like, it's where, you know, the students from certain families get sort of primed to be political leaders or something at some point, you know, is what my understanding of it was. It's all so weird. It's so weird that those all exist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 What's that thing that they do in Northern California? It's like this big summer camp for billionaires and political movers and shakers. Is that the one though, someone like Alex Jones or someone was like, I had footage of the satanic like a- O'Hemian Grove? Yeah, O'H Jones or someone's like, I had footage of the satanic, like- Oh, Amy and Grove? Yeah, oh, Amy and Grove. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Didn't someone like have like footage of it recently or like some crazy person said- Probably. They're gonna end up dead. It's one of those things, it is like conspiracy theorists point to it, but then when you read about it, it's just like, oh yeah, Henry Kissinger would like-
Starting point is 00:30:20 Emma was pretty quick to know Bohemian Girl and pretty quick to say they're gonna end up dead. Yeah. Oh, man. Well, like, when you hear about, like, yeah, Henry Kissinger and, like, Bill Gates will, like, go to this summer camp, and then they'll, like, do a skit together. It's just, like, that does sound like a thing
Starting point is 00:30:37 a conspiracy theorist would be, would think was nefarious. That sounds nefarious to anyone. Like, what the hell's going on there? Doughboy's episode, like, 720, we could do fucking Bohemian Grove or skull and crossbones. I mean, I think we're running out of stuff to do. At some point we're gonna have to get
Starting point is 00:30:53 into secret societies. Yeah. We'll figure it out. Yeah, if you're a secret society, you're interested, let us know. We'll come and review. We'll come, we'll give you a fork score. Okay, so when you're walking, you're walking somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Is this ever a food thing? Are you ever like, I'm gonna walk to get lunch? Or are you ever pulling a Mitch? Like I'm gonna walk and I'm gonna get like a little fruit and I'm gonna eat it. Like, do you eat and walk? I guess is one question. No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on now.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah. I get the fruit, you know, like when my walk is finished, I go and get the fruit and then, you know what I mean? It's a reward for finishing the walk. But I will say I do a Los Fielas walk now. This is what this is. And that's with Susser and I. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And we'll do a loop through Los Fielas. Very nice. And, uh, and then we, uh, we end at Little Dom's, Little Dom's for lunch. We have a Little Dom's lunch. It's great. It's been, it's been fantastic each time we've done it. And you didn't walk at all.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And then we, yeah, we, we've walked and then, I mean, we get a nice healthy lunch at Little Dom's and then we walk the rest of the way home. Is that ever, as a walker, is that ever your agenda? You're like, I'm gonna walk someplace, walk home and I'll get a meal in between or I'll get myself a treat afterwards. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But I rarely have to make it like part of like the plan. It's like often that, especially if I'm doing transit or something, I'll get sidetracked, oh, well, there's a restaurant, or even better, oh, it looks like I'm scrolling through my phone and I see a movies plan. That's how I went and saw, maybe it was Dune 2.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I think I went and saw Dune 2. Wow. Just as a little surprise to myself, because I realized the bus was going through downtown and going by elementary. Three and a half hour surprise. Yeah. What a side quest.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I happened to have a, it was amazing side quest. Cause I, you know, I, I real, I, I double checked. I didn't have to be home so super quick. So it's like, I'm gonna treat my little self, go to see Dune too, hop off the bus, get on, you know. So I guess to answer your question, yes, I try to work walking into errands and stuff as much as I can, go into the cafe or go onto the library
Starting point is 00:32:53 or doing, you know, whatever it may be. But often it doesn't occur to me, that's the walking is what helps me find that stuff. You know? Interesting. Or it doesn't occur to me till the walking is what helps me find that stuff. Interesting. Or it doesn't occur to me till I see it on the walk. Yeah, right. So you're just going out without an agenda. You're just like, I'm going to get some steps in and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm either getting some steps in or I'm going from point A to point B and then something along the way, maybe kind of happens. Are you a day walker or a night walker? I'm trying to trick them here. Oh, you saw my sword, huh? I was asking, are you blade? We were... Nick and I have been wondering if you're blade.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I'm a blade. We knew you were a blade. The lastest boy is blade. Hey, vampires, get over here. I'm gonna cut you up. It could happen. Yeah, I mean, look, I would love to see, I mean, you know, canonically a black character, it would be interesting to see you in the role, but I don't know if I'd be rooting for that to happen.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people are. Maybe a friend of Blade would be better. I think a lot of people want to see a white Blade. I mean, wouldn't that be interesting? A movie poster says Alan McCloud is white blade. It would be funny to see other people who always get, like, upset about diverse casting, because they claim it's not faithful to the source material,
Starting point is 00:34:20 like, then try to sort this out. It's like, wait a minute, hold on. The source material is black. This guy is white, but I like that he, wait a minute, hold on. Like the source material is black. This guy's white, but I like that he's white. Like I said, oh my God, don't matter about it. Fuck. That guy, is that me? Yeah, I meant Mitch.
Starting point is 00:34:38 But the thing I like most, that I really do like most about walking, I think that people get out of it is just kind of taking a moment to slow down. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Take it easy, look around, let's get slow as molasses and fucking,
Starting point is 00:34:55 just enjoy our day. It is just funny to hear you say like, I want people to slow down, it's just funny. These are too fast, they were too fast. It's all too fast, it's all happening too fast. While our listeners are checking their podcasts, have to make sure they didn't accidentally set it to point five speed.
Starting point is 00:35:11 We all need to take it easy. I love it, I love that attitude, because that's a big part of, I like a walking too, is like, I feel like we're so often like, well, we just wanna make whatever this is, the journey as short as possible. But like the journey can be part of the experience. And then also like that's not wasted time to get in to take what was a five minute drive
Starting point is 00:35:33 and make it into a 15 minute walk. That's time you're out and about, you're getting sunlight, you're getting exercise and you're getting to know your neighborhood a little bit better. So yeah, but again, if that's available to you, because a lot of America does not have, as you know better than I, does not have that sort of infrastructure. Yeah, and that's the thing that's like crazy to me is that it wasn't so long ago
Starting point is 00:35:55 that neighborhoods were smaller, that these communities were smaller. It was like when was the car invented? You know, like 80 years ago? That's a great question. We know. 85 years ago. Yeah, please, that's something by the way. Simple question. Yeah, the Model question. I mean, we know. 85 years ago. Please, simple question. The Model T year.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I don't know off the top of my head, but that's when things became more geared toward the, we sort of reshaped society around cars and left everybody on the ground. Model T ran off of testosterone, right? It was a prick thing. You pricked your finger and it ran. Well, I can't get mine started.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, you just gotta and it ran. Oh, I can't get mine started. Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, you can't. You just got to crank it harder. Ha ha ha ha ha. Mechanics are just like super teed up guys. We're like, I got it. And he just fucking starts it for you. My Greek Anson's going to work at Head Gum.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. It's, yeah, it's, well, but a lot of it, I think, came actually post-World War II. That's when we had like this huge building thing where we're like, we're going to build the great war. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the great war, I think it was World War I.
Starting point is 00:36:58 World War I, yeah, yeah, the second great war. Yeah, right, right. As it's known. I watched Saving Private Ryan the other day. Good movie. Oh, yeah. It is a good movie, yeah, yeah. Title kind of gives away the... It's true.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Little bit of a spoiler. Little bit of a spoiler. Lot of fun to carry, I mean, so many actors in that movie. It's great. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Both of y'all could be in like a squad made in one of those movies.
Starting point is 00:37:22 What's that gonna happen? That would be great. Let's get it going. Spielberg, be great. Let's get it going. Spielberg, come on, let's get it going. Saving two, baby. Saving two. Too many, so many people die in it, you know, it's sad. Oh yeah, the scene where, what's the guy's name?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Adam Goldberg. Yeah, we were just talking about this. And you know what's crazy? That's the worst. I just found out, I had never known this, but he doesn't get killed by the guy they let go. It's a different guy. I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Oh, really? Tom Hanks gets killed by the guy that they let go. But the guy who kills Adam Goldberg is just like, he walks by the guy who's too scared to go in the room. And I thought that was the same guy that he let go. And it's not, this is so boring, but it's the truth. I didn't notice. They've never seen this.
Starting point is 00:38:10 It's a different guy. Have you guys seen Saving Private Ryan? Yeah. I didn't know if that was. He was in college. All right, all right, all right. I didn't know if it was Amelia. Have you seen the new Kevin Spacey docu-series
Starting point is 00:38:22 that came out? I haven't watched them yet, but I'm really interested. What's it called, like Unmasked or something? Yeah. Yeah. Have you been watching it? Yeah, I watched it. Go on, you weirdo. Apparently, I mean, this is like a horrible story.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Oh, I know the story. We could please tell it. Yeah. Apparently- Somebody help me. Apparently, Kevin Spacey went to see Saving Private Ryan in theaters. And when the Invasion of Normandy scene happened, he started jerking off.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yes, yeah, this is one of the allegations. What? He started jerking off during that scene. What? He's done much weirder stuff. If you went into the theater back then, it was pretty normal for people to start jacking off during that scene, right, Wides?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, I mean, that's just like, you didn't have as many venues to masturbate, certainly publicly. So you just have- Two things happened during Private Ryan. One, you'd see old people, veterans, leaving the theater crying. Two, people would start jacking off
Starting point is 00:39:17 during the Normandy scene. That is like, that is, that, we'll say allegation. Yes. We don't want, you know, we're not sure about whether he did this or that. Certainly with Spacey, cause you know, Jesus Christ, we ended up in a fucking body bag. It's very true. Of those people who made the documentary of life insurance.
Starting point is 00:39:37 It's very true. I am nervous as well, that's why he's saying this. That is like the most evil. It's insane. It's nothing. To be like, yeah, yeah, oh fuck yeah. That's fucking horrible. Like all the things.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Some guy's arm falls off and he like grabs it. And he's just like, oh. That's gonna be my arm in a second. That's fucking. That's fucking. That's fucking. That's fucking. That's fucking.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's fucking. Wait, why did I bring up Saving Private Ryan? You were talking about, you were watching it the other day. I don't know. I don't know exactly where it came from. Oh, we were talking about the Great War. The Great War, that's right. I was trying to do a line from the mask. Yeah, I got that.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And then I accidentally mixed it up with a story with a different thing. I don't even know. I was trying to say somebody stop me. And then I mixed it with what, when my dad's friend, Bill misquotes the mask, he says, somebody help me. And that's what I said earlier. That's a good bit. Anyway, if you noticed that, I just wanted to sort
Starting point is 00:40:38 of backtrack. So you're quoting your dad's friend, Bill? I was quoting my dad's friend, Bill, accidentally tried to slide in a little, completely interrupting your story, by the way, which I apologize hugely for right now. Well, we were talking, why were we talking about the, the, the second great war, World War II? Oh, the Model T. Yeah. And we were also talking about just like, it, like how this country got re
Starting point is 00:41:03 reshaped into a car culture. Oh, right, right. Right, you're right. It was more, it was, it's not, cause I often like chalk it up to like, well cars and that's a really simplistic, that's overly simplistic way to do it because it does have to do more
Starting point is 00:41:16 with what you're talking about. But it was a combination of factors though. It was just like, yeah, cause even if they, that's what began things and then things really like expanded to become like, this is the template for how we are going to build this entire country, I feel like post-World War II. They almost put a freeway through Toontown here in Los Angeles, I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah, boy, that was really sad. It was really sad, yeah. A lot of tunes got displaced. Yeah, yeah. And then there was all that dip that got dumped, just wholesale in neighborhoods. I know. It's really a dark chapter in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I feel bad. There were tunes that used to, like in my house now, it used to be like a tune neighborhood. And I gentrified it and got them out of there, but it was like a lot of tunes that were there for a while. Yeah. Now it's a five over one with like a Yoga Works
Starting point is 00:42:04 and a, the Starbucks and ground floor. Which is beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful to have these buildings, these condos slash like, you know, on the bottom floor. Street level retail. Yeah, it's so, that's, it's a beautiful city.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That's what you want. You want a blue bottle coffee and a sweet green in a hot yoga studio. We're being sarcastic. If they couldn't tell. Sarcasm, ever heard of it? I can't tell if he's being sarcastic. Sarcastic?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Can we talk about it? I want to talk about Waffle House a little bit, because this is a chain that you came onto the podcast review when we were live in Huntsville, Alabama. Right. You came on, you came down there, you came on as a surprise guest during the podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:54 You were a surprise guest, and Alabama comes out. It was back in my heel days. It was a little bit of a heel move, but it played great on the podcast. Yeah, why were you a bad guy on the podcast as you went back into that? I don't know, I don't know. I was going through some stuff. It was all work. I wasn't walking yet. It was all work. It was all work. Anyway, we got you a bad guy on the podcast and you look back into that? I don't know, I was going through some stuff. It was all a work.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I wasn't walking yet. It was all a work. It was all a work. Anyway, we got you out there and it's like a huge, everyone's very excited to see you. That's our, we love Alan, he's from Alabama, excited to have him here. We're reviewing Waffle House.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And you, in this context, are solely responsible for keeping you out of the Platinum Plate Club. I gave it five forks, Mitch gave it five forks, Carl Tartt gave it five forks. You wouldn't go above four. And later, my understanding is you amended it to three forks. Is that true? I think just as another hillbilly, I'm now remembering.
Starting point is 00:43:40 The truth of this is, though, I forgot that the five forks was the top rating. I thought I was giving it the top rating. And then there was such a big reaction in that moment. Yeah. So your answer is that you forgot? I forgot that it was, I was trying to give it what I thought was, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:57 I forgot Five Forks was the thing. I just fucking spaced, I don't know. And then everybody was like, what? And then I was like, ha haha, this is actually more fun. I think Nick and I were both genuinely mad at you, I believe, I think we were pretty mad. I would say we were pretty, I mean, as mad as we can get over something like that.
Starting point is 00:44:16 My guess, I'm just thinking of what's going on in Alan's head at the moment, and it probably was kind of like, let's see how many forks are there. One, two, three, four. Well, that's gotta be the limit. My dad's friend Bill. Everything's a four. It's always fours. I don't know why. I should have looked that up. I asked my dad's friend Bill how many, but the most number of forks he's ever seen is a four. It's always fours. I don't know why. I should have looked that up. I don't know. I thought I was giving it the good fours.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I asked my best friend Bill how many of the most number of fours he's ever seen is four. It's four. Huh? I don't know. We're going to beat this Bill character, by the way. Bill sounds great. But that was what was going through my mind.
Starting point is 00:45:06 You know, it's just like it got such a big reaction and I didn't even understand it for a second. And then it was like, I guess I'll just stick to four because everybody's having so much fun with this now. And I don't know. And then, yeah, I don't know why y'all were giving, I mean, I do think it is five forks. But at the same time, I was like, kind of surprised everybody was going five forks
Starting point is 00:45:27 for some reason. So I don't know, it was all mystifying to me and I'm still processing it and therapy and everything like that. You went to therapy because of this? Every day. Wow. Two hours a day, this is all I talk about.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'm proud of you. I think that you need, I think it's good. Yeah, it's good, it's helpful. Should I up it? you. I think that you need, I think it's good. Yeah, it's good. It's helpful. Should I up it? Yeah. I think you should probably up it, yeah. If you out there are thinking of starting therapy, let me tell you about our friends at BetterHelp.
Starting point is 00:45:54 They solve cases like molasses boy here when he gives too low of a fork score. Yeah, and they really do solve cases. They're like, in like- That's their whole thing, yeah. They look like Columbo when they come in there. And one more thing, that fork score. Four forks.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Were you doing a Colombo impression? Alan did it. Well, you were going to go, yeah, just one more question. What were your parents like? What other sort of walkers? You're a day walker, we've already said. Any other walkers you see out there?
Starting point is 00:46:27 Like a night walker, we did a night walk. Night walkers, that's scary. But that's also, yeah, so it's like walking, like you gotta have, not everybody does have access to a walkable area, which is a huge problem, and that's just like silly in this country. We can't do that. That's absurd.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And also, it's not safe for everyone to walk at night. So that's- Yeah, for sure. For sure. That's true. So- It's dark out there. I don't know, it's dark out there. It's dark out there. So, you know, and there's not like a lot of lighting,
Starting point is 00:46:57 you know, as there should be like in a city park or something like that. Maybe there's other reasons for that. I like a night walk. It's crazy how much of an effect lighting has, you're gone. I'm a huge night walker. I like, I like, I like a night walk. I like, I love a night walk.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I know we got to do one. I know, I know, I know. We did one. I know, but I'm saying we got to do another one. We have to, we're due, we're due for a walk. There's, there's a great, there's a really fun hike that's over near Altadena where you can hike up to, I think it's called Echo Mountain.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And then there's this, the ruins of this old resort hotel that is up there. So you can see the footprint of the hotel. It burned down, I don't know, like a hundred years ago or something like that, but there's still like the ruins are there and stairs and these old gears from this funicular train that people used to ride up the mountain on. Love that. Like angels flight down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but you hike up there and it's a great hike,
Starting point is 00:48:02 but my favorite thing to do is wait and then you hike up there before sunset. And then after the sun goes down, then you get to turn on your little night lamp and then come down at night. And it's a really fun hike down. So I don't know. Shout out to that if anybody wants to go find that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I'm down for that walk sometime. Oh, we should do it. Yeah, we should definitely do it. It's so awesome. I wanna talk about, we gotta get to, I don't know where we are on the clock. We gotta get to- You're up for that. Oh, I forgot your time.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Oh, no worries. Uh-oh. I forgot the timer. He's freaking out. We're at 46 minutes wide. Okay, okay, we're doing fine. What were you gonna say? I said, you're not off, you're not,
Starting point is 00:48:39 this isn't gonna happen, you're not, you're not gonna cut, I mean- What? I go for a while, I mean, like, it's like- You're not talking about the dinner? You're not talking about the dinner. You're not going to hear this isn't going to happen. You're not going to cut it. I go for a while. I mean, like it's like you're not talking about going at burning the midnight oil. You're talking about a thing. You're going up there at sunset.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah, it's a reasonable hour. You could do something like that and get a sensible dinner before or afterwards. Oh, yeah. Totally do it. You should go shoot, man. Midnight oil. What? I'm not talking. Precious midnight oil. What a...
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm not talking about that kind of midnight oil. What the hell? God. I would love to come. I would come. I would come. Yeah. Let's make it happen.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Hey, let's do it. It's a day. Oh my God, this would be so awesome. I'm a little nervous about how tough the tyke is, but you know what? I'll be in... It's uphill. It is uphill, but it's not the craziest thing.
Starting point is 00:49:28 We could take our time. Let's do it in July. Damn. At that point. I'll say this. We had a blast in that area. Alta Dena known for milk too. That's true.
Starting point is 00:49:39 There's a dairy brand, Alta Dena. The milk area. We had, we had a, we were out that way for the restaurant. We sure were. And I do wanna get to that in one second. There is one thing that I wanted to do while you're here, Alan, which is that we made this video,
Starting point is 00:49:55 you and I for our sketch group, A Kiss From Daddy, back in, I mean, it's 15 years ago this video was uploaded to YouTube, and I haven't thought about it until, I was just like, oh yeah, you're coming on. I forgot we made that thing, but I thought we could just watch this again here. I haven't seen this in over 10 years.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Oh man. Do you remember this video? This was piss drinking prank. Piss drinking prank. Yeah, piss drinking prank. Yeah. That's a great video. I'm excited to rewatch it.
Starting point is 00:50:20 This actually aired on the first episode of Tosh.0. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Wow. We were off and running. Tosh.0 for real, point, you know, it was the first Tosh. He still talks about it. Um, like that was like really kicked off my success. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:43 The piss drinking prank. That's at the end of his standup sets. He, he thanks like really kicked off my success. Yeah, right. The piss drinking prank. That's at the end of his standup sets. He thanks us for this drinking prank video. Okay, here we go. This is piss drinking prank. We're just gonna watch this in the room here. Oh man, this is gonna be depressing, huh? Yeah, we look so much younger.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Alan's over there right now. I'm about to go nail him. This is the piss drinking prank. Let's do this. Hey man, what's up? Hey man. What's do this. Hey man, what's up? Hey man.
Starting point is 00:51:10 What's up? How's it going? What's happening? Going good. Yeah. Yeah. You uh, you like that drink I got you? Yeah. Yeah, really? Good.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Enjoy it? Good beverage? Yeah, man. It's a good beverage. All right. So you like drinking piss? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:29 It's good piss? Uh huh. It's really good piss. You know whose piss that is? No. Who? Rudy. Rudy who?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Rudy. Rudy the dog, Rudy? Oh my god, dude! I don't know. Who? Rudy. Rudy who? Rudy. Rudy the dog, Rudy? Oh my god, dude! I can't believe- ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:51:54 Ah! Ah! Ah! What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm eating some shit so I can get the dog piss taste out of my mouth, man! Dude, that's dog shit. What?
Starting point is 00:52:06 Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!
Starting point is 00:52:14 Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!
Starting point is 00:52:22 Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! I forgot about the Pwn. Yeah, that's good. Pwn is, Pwn's last a while because it's still a funny thing to say. Yeah, Pwn is hung around. Pwn is hung around. Pwn's good. I will say the image of you laughing
Starting point is 00:52:36 into a camera is horrifying. I turned the, for audio listeners, I turned the lens around at the end. Yeah, you can watch that video on YouTube. Check it out on YouTube, yeah. That's a great one. Thanks, buddy. I remember going to get, like at the last minute,
Starting point is 00:52:51 going to like, I don't know, the nearby gas station to go find a brownie to- Right. Roll into a turd. Yeah. You guys ended up, you decided to use real dog shit. Yeah, we used real dog shit. Yeah, it didn't look real enough.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Uh, well, whose dog was that? That was Johnny Meeks' dog. Wow. Yeah. Great dog. And was that his place? That was, we filmed in his backyard with his dog. It was very, very nice to let us do that.
Starting point is 00:53:20 That's great. Yeah. A great, a classic sketch. Also very funny that you're just watering the lawn. Yeah. Who are these guys? What's the scenario? Who is this relationship?
Starting point is 00:53:31 His friend is watering the lawn and he got him a glass of piss. You showed that in a Kiss From Daddy show as well. That's right. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy, how much do you think you're paying for subscriptions every month? Well, the answer is, I think, about $1. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about Bolero. Bolero. Bolero. Bolero. There's a little bit of runway for this. I'm going to give all this context and partly I'm doing this, Alan, because on your walking
Starting point is 00:55:33 about podcast, you give so much context for everything. Sketch can still exist. If that came out now, I'd laugh at that. Sketch? Yeah, I wonder how people would react to that now. Why do people say Sketch is dead? Yeah. I don't think it is. It's still going strong. It's just in a different format. Oh, okay. I guess would react to that now. Why do people say sketch is dead? I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:55:45 It's still going strong. It's just in a different format. Oh, okay. I guess somebody said that to me. Someone said, I heard it too. Don't worry. I was, I'm- You said that.
Starting point is 00:55:53 All right. Yeah. I think I said it. Yeah. I actually, I said it too. I just didn't want to get in trouble for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been saying sketch is dead.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yeah. Yeah. You were talking about drawing though, I guess. I was talking about drawing, yeah. Oh, okay. I was like okay. Cause like, I guess all this now, what do you need? Right. What do you need to draw something for? That might be true. I was actually talking about my dad's
Starting point is 00:56:10 friend, Billy Sketch. He's dead. It's like Sketch is dead and he just took that, you know, like he ran with it, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's like a game of telephone or something.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. I guess. And then I think it went around the Hollywood and now Sketch kind of died because of us. God, I feel so bad. But if you, if that was on, if that was, hey, if I turned on ABC Monday night at 8 PM and that was on my screen, I love it. Watch that and then goes right into Monday night football. I love it.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Watch that and then goes right into Monday Night Football. So here's the Bolero history. Bull Moor Lanes was open in 1938 in Union Square in New York City. 1938. 1938, the first Bull Moor Lanes was open. Richard Nixon himself, a tricky dick, famously bowled there. I don't know. I bowled a perfect game. Fucking liar.
Starting point is 00:57:09 That was not a strike. That's pretty good. In 1952, American machine and foundry or AMF launches the pin spotter, which is the fully automated pin setting machine you see in most alleys. So they launched that. That's the one I asked you if I slipped under it, if it would suck me off. Yeah. And I said yes.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And you didn't say yes. This is also true. That we're not making this up for now. I did ask you there if it would suck me off. And you said yes. Emma, you were saying you've been to an alley in a Kennebunk that does not have the automated pin setting machine. It's automated somehow, but it's an old school one,
Starting point is 00:57:50 so it's strings, so all of the pins are attached to a string, and this is an old school way of doing it. So when it resets, you see all these strings pull up, and it pulls all the pins up, and then it separates them somehow and puts them back down. But you can trick the mechanism if you knock the string hard enough It counts as a pin down even if the pin doesn't go down
Starting point is 00:58:08 It's not legit. It's also a very old lane that where like the lanes aren't totally flat. It's like a very old alley great food Though it's called Garden Street Bowl if anyone's in Maine So a little Marionette up there Controlling the pins What's his name buddy Velasco the like cake boss guy who had a bowling lane in his house and he tried to reset the pins manually and his machine stabbed him through the hand.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Oh my God. It like absolutely ruined him for a while. It's really gnarly. Holy shit, that's insane. So don't go back there. It won't suck you off. It'll cut your hand off. He spent years cutting cakes and then it was a
Starting point is 00:58:43 bowling pin thing that's finally got him. How ironic. It's like hell raiser ask. That's crazy. That's also such a convenient cover story. I was like, I was trying to set the pins by hand as he was trying to get sucked off. I come in with a bowling pin through my hand. Don't ask about it. So, okay, so the pin spotter is so successful
Starting point is 00:59:10 that AMF launches its own chain of bowling centers. And bowling, that becomes AMF Bowling, which has 200-plus bowling centers across the country. In 1997, Tom Shannon purchases Bowlmore. Now we're back in New York City. This is the Union Square location. He modernizes it with an expanded menu with
Starting point is 00:59:29 this glow in the dark aesthetic. It becomes a hit and Bullmore grows into a half dozen different locations. You remember that the glow in the dark bowling was like a trend for a little bit. He's like the guy who started it off.
Starting point is 00:59:40 What year was that? 1997. Okay, so we jumped. So we jumped. Yeah, we jumped forward quite a bit. We're jumping forward in time pretty rapidly. By 2013, AMF Bowling, this company that has 200-plus centers, had filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy. So Tom Shannon acquires it, and then he launches a new Bolero, which is a new brand,
Starting point is 00:59:58 which brings that concept to all those bowling centers. So AMF bowling centers did not all have unified names. That's why you'll find something that was like this was just Pasadena Bowl or Marvista lanes. They were still all part of the AMF bowling umbrella, but now they've all been rebranded as Bolero and kind of turned into the same sort of thing. Bolero now has 325 bowling centers branded as Bolero, Bullmore lanes or Lucky Strike. So 7% of
Starting point is 01:00:21 all US bowling alleys are controlled by Bolero now. They also their their Lucky Strike as well. Lucky Strike, so 7% of all US bowling alleys are controlled by Bolero now. They also- Also they're Lucky Strike as well. Lucky Strike is also their brand. What we're not reviewing that today, they also acquired the Pro Bowling Association in 2019. So they basically own the NBA of bowling. And I will say that a lot of bowling enthusiasts
Starting point is 01:00:38 seem to resent Bolero because they have kicked out bowling leagues, they have closed pro shops, they've more been like, we're gonna be more of a Dave and Buster's as opposed to something that caters to bowling enthusiasts. But anyway, a long runway from Bulmore Lanes to eventually the omnipresence of Bolero nationwide. Alan, we previously reviewed Dave and Buster's, which I just mentioned on the podcast with you. How did you come to be a guy who goes to a Bolero? podcast with you, how did you come to be a guy who goes to a Bolero?
Starting point is 01:01:09 You picked Dave and Buster's in Bolero? Throw the fuck up, molasses boy. I'm getting hard. What can I say? Well, I, about Bolero? Yeah, Bolero. Oh yeah. So I didn't know about Bolero really till this year, because I have a seven year old,
Starting point is 01:01:33 that you get a lot, you're going to invite it to a lot of parties. Sure. We have a kid parties, but still parties nonetheless to me. I look at them all the same. And then we would go into like Bolero's a little bit. And I was like, what's this Bolero there kind of all over the place. Of course, I only have gone to really the one in Pasadena, but, um, it's just ended up kind of being this, this thing I enjoyed doing, like when, you know, when,
Starting point is 01:01:57 when somebody was having a birthday party there, it was like, oh, that's fun. We were going to Bolero again. Um, and yeah, it is like, I like for whatever reason, these like loud party places with games and stuff going off for some reason. I don't know if it just helps me sort of disassociate for a little while or what's going on. But yeah, this is kind of like a Dave and Buster's with bowling. Yeah. And it has the Dave and Buster's element of like, yeah, I mean, there's kids can do something there,
Starting point is 01:02:26 but there's also something for mom and dad. Like, they specifically have like a dad lounge there. And certainly all the alcohol they're slinging is a big part of that. Of course, you can always go down the line and try to get sucked off by the machine. You're talking about the Louisvaux. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:02:41 When the kid's off in the arcade area, you know, it's your time to shine. It's your daddy, he has to play a different little game. I want to get that Brian Griffin in the giant claw machine. All right, you'll know what I'll be. I'm going to be walking down that lane, taking the long walk, as they call it. You walk down the lane and Cake Boss is there like,
Starting point is 01:03:01 this one's taken. Cake Boss, there they're like, this one's taken. Cake Boss, there's 12 holes. But yeah, so I, you know, what I also liked about, I liked the sort of like, um, the, the, and I think Dave and Buster's is kind of transitioning to this and maybe it's because of Bolero, but they sort of have like a, I always liked that Virgin Atlantic Airlines, you know, rating scheme or whatever. And they kind of have that, which is appealing to me for some reason.
Starting point is 01:03:36 So, I don't know. Yeah, it does have that kind of vibe for sure. But it ends up being like kind of a fun family place to hang out. Virgin Atlantic, it's the airline of the Doughboys. Doughboys airline. I thought that this was a bowl place for, I thought, to be clear, I thought this was a place where you get like a bowl with rice in it. Right. That would be, why don't they have that?
Starting point is 01:04:03 They should have a bowl. They should do something like that the menu is hmm not the most Yes, it's not the most revolutionary menu we've ever seen and and there's almost nothing that is well There are like big drinks. I feel like and we didn't do any of like the huge drinks There's like a drink for four person. That's like in a big bowl. Yes, they have these things called dunk tanks. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And then they have- But also why do they call it a dunk tank? I don't know. It's fucking with branding. It shouldn't be like the bowl, you know what I mean? What? Drunk tank? Is it alcoholic? I mean, yeah, it should be drunk tank. They probably were away from drunk, but yeah, dunk tank is confusing branding. But yeah, it shouldn't be like the big bowl, you know what I mean? Like it should be bowl-based.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah. There's no bowl branding. The ones they have are for instance, like, yeah. So you have to have a minimum party size of four to order one of these. And it's things like they got like a mad Mai Tai, which I'm sure also these are so like just diluted. I'm sure they mostly just taste like lemonade,
Starting point is 01:04:59 just knowing how these kinds of chain restaurants do these sorts of cocktails. It's not like getting a scorpion bowl at like a proper tiki bar. But yeah, it is. What I would say about it is it's very, there's nothing here that's at all approach like approximating something that healthy, like, like if you are like the mom
Starting point is 01:05:17 and dad and you are there and you want like, well, I guess I would get like a Caesar salad or something, the kind of thing that you would expect to have at like a Chili's is like a healthiest option. There's nothing like that. Everything is indulgent. It's like a grunt of cheese. I maybe genuinely got the most healthy menu, like a... right? You probably did. You got the wrap and also it sucked.
Starting point is 01:05:38 It sucked. Yeah. So that's not what you... You go to this place and people are getting fucked up and people are eating trashy food. And also like a lot of, we witnessed this while we were there, a lot of people are having kids birthday parties. Yeah. So I think that's a big part of their business. We were the only ones eating like in the bar eating area.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yes. Everybody else kind of takes their food. It was similar to Chuck E. Cheese. It was in that way where like, I was like, that's three weirdos. There were guys bowling solo and stuff, so we weren't alone. Yeah, there were adult parties.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I would say there's difference. I've been to Chuck E. Cheese recently, and it's just a sad situation over there. Yeah, you're saying it's not looking good. Yeah, it's just like they were, I think they were hit hard by Freddy, Freddy got fingered. You said, you made this mistake then too. I keep thinking Freddy got five guys in Freddy's, got fingered. You made this mistake then too.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I keep thinking Freddy got fingered. Five Nights at Freddy's, that's right. So. Freddy got fingered. The Tom Green movie came out and then Chuck E. Cheese never recovered. Um, we were talking about Five Nights at Freddy and it's just such a funny thing of like,
Starting point is 01:06:42 this kind of dorky Christian game has taken down Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah, cause they have to take all the, they're taking all the animatronic band people out. Cause children are scared of them? I think they're, that's just an overreaction of them that's not realizing it's a thing they should lean into. It was like, oh, Five Nights at Freddy's has heat.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Kids love this. Yeah, let's go lean more to the animatronic stuff. Hey, you want to have that Five Nights at Freddy's experience, come Kids love this. Yeah, let's go lean more to the animatronic stuff. Hey, you want to have that Five Nights at Freddy's experience, come see it, come see the inspiration, you know? Yeah. Whatever, but we're not talking about Chuck E. Cheese. We're talking about Bolero.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Forget I said that. We'll edit it out. We'll edit it out. Done talking about Chuck E. Cheese, that's it. That's over. So we went to a passage. No more Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 That's over. Nick? That chapter's closed. We're not passage. No more Chuck E. Cheese. It's over. Yeah. Nick? That chapter's closed. We're not talking about any more Chuck E. Cheese. And I regret to inform everyone that Sketch is dead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about your dad's friend. I could have said about when my dad died too,
Starting point is 01:07:37 but I guess you can just say about Billy Sketch instead. Oh yeah, I know, I'm sorry about your dad too. You find out your dad's friend's Bill is the same guy? Whoa. I'm your dad's friend, Bill. Well, nice to meet you, bitch. Okay. I'm going to live my life, going to live the life I've always wanted to live now. Alan was very nice to me when my dad died.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Sometimes you veer into stuff and it makes you feel uncomfortable when you do it. And you were very kind to me when my father passed away. Well, yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to be mean or anything about it. Yeah, no, that's nice. I appreciate that. It would be strange if you were very mean.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Dad died you little piece of shit. Thanks, Alan. And we have him on the podcast multiple times. Tell you what, your dad better stay away from my mom in heaven. That's true. We've talked about this. We did, we did. If he goes near my mom, so help me bro.
Starting point is 01:08:37 We talked about, I don't know, my dad are probably getting it on. Come on man. I hope, you damn it. Come on, man. I hope, you know what, more power to him. I hope you're getting the right stuff. Come on. There's all the time in the world up there. You use blue balls up there up in heaven? Come on, you know that they're doing it.
Starting point is 01:08:55 It hurts worse than having blue balls. So we went to the Pasadena location on a quiet Monday evening. We sat at a high top in the bar area. The bartender was great. We ordered the bar, but he also brought our drinks and food out. And-
Starting point is 01:09:12 It's like, blue balls really hurting on Earth. It hurts so bad here. Imagine how bad it hurts up in heaven. Oh baby, come on. It hurt. It hurt worse up here. I don't know if it's gravity. It's medically dangerous. It is, it's medically dangerous. It hurt. It hurt worse up here. I don't know if it's. Medically dangerous.
Starting point is 01:09:27 It is. It's medically dangerous. It's true. I was right. You want my hog to explode? Is that what you want? Come on, babe. So hot.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Oh, are you role playing as my dad still? I'm right. I guess I'm role playing as your dad talking to my mom. So we didn't get one of the dunk tanks. And Mitch, you and I both were not drinking, so we got the splashes, or I'm sorry, the Guzzlers. I got the watermelon splash, you got the strawberry fusion. I didn't mind my watermelon splash,
Starting point is 01:10:04 but it certainly felt less like a. Yours was better. Mine was better, but then, than yours, it certainly felt more like a drink for kids as opposed to like the mocktail for adults. You know what I mean? What you said was, did you say melted popsicle? As I'm like a melted Jolly Rancher character.
Starting point is 01:10:18 That's what it was and you were dead on. Really syrupy sweet. Yeah. But I didn't mind it. And, and like, like in terms of like just going to a bar and like, I know I'm going to eat shitty anyway, and I'm not drinking like more, more fun than like a Sprite, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. So I thought it was all right. Now, Alan, we got to talk about your heartthrob margarita. So, I mean, do you want to, do you want to, do you want to tee this up? Also on the menu, there's something called the heartthrob margarita. The heartthrob Margarita.
Starting point is 01:10:45 The Heart Throb Margarita. I didn't see that. Yeah. Yes. And then when you came in, right, there was an ad. I'd seen an ad for the Kevin Heart Throb Margarita. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So that was what I came in knowing I'm going to order the Kevin Heart Throb Margarita. Yes, which is a real ad and you showed it to us on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, so I did. I went to the bar and I ordered the Kevin Heart Throb margarita. Yes, which is a real ad and you showed it to us on your phone. Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, so I did. I went to the bar and I ordered the Kevin heartthrob margarita and the guy kind of looked at me and then politely was like, yeah, yeah, I'll get you the heartthrob margarita.
Starting point is 01:11:15 He had not been explained to Kevin Tyon at all. Kevin Tyon did not register at all with it. I mean, it wasn't on the menu as the Kevin heartthrob. And then later, yeah, I see this, just the Hart Throb burger. Like, what the hell? This guy thought you really liked Kevin Hart, was the bottom line. And I don't dislike Kevin Hart, but when he came back around,
Starting point is 01:11:37 we tried to explain like- I think I told him that you love Kevin Hart when he came back around, right? Didn't I tell him that? I was like, this guy loves Kevin Hart. Yeah. No, yeah, because I think there was a moment that? I was like, this guy loves Kevin Hart. No, yeah, because I think there was a moment
Starting point is 01:11:46 where I was going to maybe try to explain what happened, and then you were just like, he loves Kevin Hart. He was like, I used to like him more, but not as much as he was. That's what he was. Like he's less into Kevin Hart. Maybe he got oversaturated or something. Yeah, it seems like he had taken a turn on Kevin Hart, which is even more crazy. Cause like, what has Kevin Hart done differently in 20 years?
Starting point is 01:12:21 Hasn't he been pretty consistently the same sort of guy? Maybe it's like like kind of like, oh, he's everywhere now, you know, that could be a thing or just like, maybe he didn't like the Jumanji movies, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. A great guy, by the way. I loved our bartender.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He was a bartender. He was great. He was wearing multiple hats. I mean, he was like, he was taking orders behind the bar and then he was going and getting food. He was going and he was running food. The staff was great. There was another guy checking in on us.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Oh yeah, that guy was really nice. Talking to us. I think that must have been the manager guy. Because I was- I think so. He had like a headset. He was, came at a very close time to when you guys came. But I missed this interaction.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah. The first. Yeah, the first one he came up to us, we were just kind of like wandering around and he came chatted us up and then he came back again You know might have also just been making sure we weren't lingering near a kid's birthday party You guys all right? Okay, they are keeping an eye on that the one time I've been there for a kid's birthday party I was eating some pizza off of what I
Starting point is 01:13:22 Later was told by one of the waitresses who kindly was like, that's for the kids. I was just like eating all the kids' food. And she was like, sir, that's not for you. That's for the kids. And I was like, you're right. You're right. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:13:37 That's very funny. It's very funny that they police that. Because like, you think like it's food you ordered, you think it'd be for everybody. But yeah, no, it was, that was specifically. It was your party, right? It was your party. No, it's food you ordered. Do you think it'd be for everybody? Yeah, no, that was specifically- It was your party, right? No, it was not my party. Oh, okay, well that doesn't make sense. It wasn't for me.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I was invited to a party. Oh, okay, all right, all right, all right. Or my son was. I thought you were like at someone, like just at another table. Like, fucking scooping the cake out of the bucket. Okay, what did you think of that margarita though? The awkwardness of ordering it aside? I, you know, it wasn't like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:14:13 it wasn't like, it wasn't my favorite margarita or anything. You know, and I think I remarked on this at the time. I heard you say like, this has nothing to do with kebab. I think I remember you saying at one point. Well, I sort of expected to hear the Jumanji drums starting when I was sipping it, but I never did. And it didn't have any salt. It didn't have any salt on the rim or anything, which I thought is kind of like a,
Starting point is 01:14:40 or something kind of to dress it up. It was just kind of like, it looked just like y'all's drinks, which were just kind of like, it was like a colored'all's drinks, which were just kind of like, it was like a colored drink and it was in a little mason jar and I don't know. I said more like the heartburn margarita. I had a sip of that.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I do think it tasted better though. I had a sip of y'all's and I liked this one better. Cause I think the tequila cut the- The sweetness. The sweetness a little bit. It would have helped it a lot cause it also, it has a strawberry puree. So it was like a strawberry Marg. And yeah, I didn't have a sip of it,
Starting point is 01:15:06 but I think both of our Guzzlers would have been helped by a little bit of alcohol. Let's get into the food. So we've got the Ali Sampler, which is a striking combination. That's some fun menu copy. All right, so there is, all right, there's some fun. Of buffalo wings, chicken tenders,
Starting point is 01:15:24 cheesy dippers, pretzel pins, that's another one, and fries. We got 4X dip-in sauces for this one. I like that we got a dip-in sauce for each of the apps. I mean, I thought the wings were decent, not bad. I liked the wings, yeah. I thought they were fine. And Mitch, you kind of were saying like, we've had so many of these sampler platters
Starting point is 01:15:41 over the nine plus years we've been doing this god-awful podcast. We've gone to the chain restaurant and had some version of like, here are four so many of these sampler platters over the nine plus years we've been doing this god awful podcast. We've gone to the chain restaurant and had some version of like, here are four of our most popular apps on one platter. We've eaten that dozens of times. It's usually like a slog. It's boring at best.
Starting point is 01:15:57 You were saying this is like in the top half of those that we've had. Yeah. You said the 60th percentile. I think about the 60th percentile. Yeah. And I think you're probably right. Look, it wasn't great. Wasn't great. No, you said the 60th percentile. I think about the 60th percentile, yeah. And I think you're probably right. Look, it wasn't great. It wasn't great, no.
Starting point is 01:16:08 It was not great, and I mean, that's more maybe damning to appetizer platters that we've had. But it wasn't bad. There were, you know, there was a lot of stuff in it that like, I liked those pretzel pins. I did like the pretzel pins. Those were surprises, especially those little queso dipping sauce.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Really fun. And the cheesy breadsticks or whatever they were? Cheesy breadsticks were good, yeah. Cheesy dippers. There was a cheese. I think they do bread stuff really, really well. Yeah. Like pizza and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Valero does bread stuff pretty good. They do, I mean, I agree with you. It is, I like a... I'd love like a bowl, like a round bread. Bowling ball. I mean, that would be fun. Bowling or maybe, maybe it is the bowl. Like, it's like a soup or something. But you know.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And the top is like the finger dip. That's, I think that's a pretty great idea. That would be really fun. And you can dip your fingers through the holes into the hot, hot soup and then slurp it right off like that. I, I like it. I think a lot of people don't eat soup enough this way, putting your finger into the soup
Starting point is 01:17:08 and slurping it. Right. Yeah. I think, actually I, I'd read when I was doing my research that they used to have that menu item. And what happened is that people were picking them up by mistake and rolling down the lanes. Oh.
Starting point is 01:17:21 And they get, just get soup everywhere. Then you get soup everywhere. And they gotta go, someone's going to mop up the lane and re-oil it. It's a whole thing. Or you pick up a real ball and you just get soup everywhere. Then you got soup everywhere. And you gotta go, someone's gonna mop up the lane and re-oil, it's a whole thing. Or you pick up a real ball and you dip your finger in. That was the other thing that was happening. Where the heck's the soup?
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah. People were just, we're just. And you're like, well, I guess I'll just eat it. And you're like, oh, dang, my teeth broke. Yeah. It's both those factors. People are dipping their fingers in the regular bone balls and be like, oh, it's cold.
Starting point is 01:17:43 People are dipping their fingers in the regular bone balls and be like, oh, it's cold And then and then Albert turns sir it's supposed to be Wait Alfred Albert Albert I was like, is this another one of your dad's friends? Wait, you know the soup scene in Batman? Sorry, not Albert, Alfred. This is like the off-brand of Batman. You know the soup scene from Batman? Albert and Master Wang.
Starting point is 01:18:13 So it's a... We gotta go fight the jokester. It's gazpacho, right? Gazpacho, yeah, or something like that. Or like a, well, cucumber soup? What the fuck is it. It's gazpacho, right? Gazpacho, yeah, or something like that. Or like a, well, cucumber soup. What the fuck is it?
Starting point is 01:18:29 What's up here? That cold soup? Cold soup, yeah. Gazpacho's good. Yeah, I guess it's gazpacho. I'm just trying to remember what specifically it is in the Batman movie. What soup is Batman eating?
Starting point is 01:18:42 Let us know on social media, hashtag holy soup, Batman. This says Alfred mentions Mulligato, what the? Mulligatani? Mulligatani, thank you. I was not gonna say that, right? Which Batman is this in? The first one.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Batman with Keaton. The Tim Burton Batman, the Keaton one. That is such a deep poll. Yeah. So you remember that detail, but you didn't remember the name Alfred. Excuse me. You thought Albert instead of Alfred.
Starting point is 01:19:11 The alley sampler was fine. And I was like, if we're going to get something to share with some adults, and maybe I'm not having dinner there, but maybe I just need some bites because I want to have some bar food because I'm drinking, like, that's compa- it was totally fine. The crispy cauliflower that you got, which was tossed and maybe I'm not having dinner there, but maybe I just need some bites because I want to have some bar food because I'm drinking. Like that's, it was totally fine. The crispy cauliflower that you got,
Starting point is 01:19:28 which was tossed in buffalo, Alan, I thought that was pretty dang good. It was pretty good. Yeah. Pretty good. Nice texture to it. The wings were- Apple sauce.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And to get to that, back to that alley sampler quickly, let's just get through this thing. The wings I thought were maybe the closest to being like freezer burning. But they weren't, even the wings, which I maybe the worst on the plate weren't bad. The cheesy bread was okay. What else am I missing?
Starting point is 01:19:56 The chicken tendies. The tendies were pretty good. Yeah, I thought they were all right. Yeah, I didn't dislike anything on the plate. I thought they were all fine. Fries were okay. Fries were fine, yeah. I will say it would be nice,
Starting point is 01:20:07 because again, there's just nothing at all healthy here, and the Ali's Sampler comes with a huge pile of fries, and then if you get any other, any of the sandwiches, which are all your options for a main, those also all come with fries. And I just do not need that many fries. It would be nice if we get a side salad or something like that, but it's just not an option there.
Starting point is 01:20:24 There's no salad here at all, right? It'd be nice if they had some bagged mescal get like a side salad or something like that, but it's just not an option there. Be nice if they had like- There's no salad here at all, right? It'd be nice if they had like some bagged mescaline greens in the back or something like that, that they could just toss on a plate with some ranch or something. Yeah. Anyway, oh, the Chicken Club Wrap, you got that one, Mitch.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I got the, which you got crispy with honey mustard. I got the- No, I did not get it crispy, I got it grilled chicken. I wrote my notes wrong. You got it with grilled- I got it with grilled chicken. Grilled with honey mustard. I got the Monster Burger, which did not get it crispy. I got a grilled chicken. I wrote my notes wrong. You got it with grilled with honey mustard. I got the Monster Burger, which is a half pound smash burger top
Starting point is 01:20:49 with grilled onions, lettuce, pickles, and special sauce. And Alan, you got the barbecue chicken flatbread. Oh, I'm sorry. We shared the barbecue chicken flatbread. You got the cauliflower, which was grilled chicken, cheese, onions, and barbecue sauce. That flatbread was fine.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah, the flatbread was fine. Yeah. Flatbread was fine. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like a barbecue chicken pizza, but we'll also, the other one was a pepperoni pizza. Right? Wasn't, was that the two options? I think there's no cheese option. Um, you would have just got cheese.
Starting point is 01:21:15 I like a cheese pizza. I love a cheese pizza. Both of us. I think it's a waste of space. That's. Alan. Just cheese? Albert.
Starting point is 01:21:25 How dare you? This is fucked up. You think cheese pizza's a waste of space? Yeah. You got, I mean, you know, you mix up, you don't even add different cheeses, just one cheese. I think you're a spaced out wasteoid, and I think you should get the hell out of this. I mean, look, there's a lot of real estate
Starting point is 01:21:44 to put toppings on there. Even one topping. Wow, I love- Do you like the basic classic form of pizza? I love like a plain slice. I love like a cheese pizza. I mean, I'm not gonna not, I mean, you know, I'd still eat it, but I'm just saying, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:57 if I, whenever I have the choice, I never, I'm never a cheese pizza guy. What toppings you put on there? It's like, you know, you get a fucking slice now. You don't get one. I'm not saying I don't want any, I'm just telling you, you. What toppings you put on there? You get a fucking slice now. You don't get one. I'm not saying I don't want any. I'm just telling you, you know, it's kind of like there's a lot of toppings
Starting point is 01:22:10 looking for a home. Well, this cheese flatbread we didn't order, you can't have any in the past. Yeah. What's my toppings? Yeah, what are you gonna have? Oh, I love a Hawaiian pizza. Yeah, it's a fun pizza.
Starting point is 01:22:22 I love a pepperoni. Yeah, sure. Classic. I do like barbecue chicken pizza. When whenever I discovered that, that was like a big order for me. There's some place that makes a fried zucchini, or fried zucchini pizza.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Does that sound like a bell? Like a zucchini blossom? Maybe Three Beams makes it or something. It's interesting. I'm not so surprised after I saw that video of you eating dog shit, because That's your fucking taste. Your pizza fucking taste matches that video, Alan. Dog shit. Hawaiian pizza? Hey, Hawaiian pizza's all right. I'll defend Hawaiian pizza. I like Hawaiian pizza. Especially like a fiery Hawaiian. You throw like a pepper or a jalapeno on there.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Jalapeno? Yeah, and you change out ham. First of all, you don't eat ham anymore. I don't eat ham anymore, yeah. Oh yeah. Let's get rid of that. What's a good option? Pineapple, here it is. Pineapple, jalapeno, bacon. There you go. That's the better version of a Hawaiian pizza.
Starting point is 01:23:12 That's still bacon, still pork. I know, I don't give a shit about him. You mean turkey bacon? Oh. I'm just trying to make a better Hawaiian pizza. You don't like the Canadian bacon, you don't like the ham on a pizza? I like it okay.
Starting point is 01:23:24 I mean, I'm not looking for a Hawaiian pizza ever. You're a ham skeptic, that's a big part of it. You're not a big ham guy. I like Canadian bacon. Sure. Look, I love my little eggy breakfasts, Eggs Benedict. I love Eggs Benedicts, but I'm not, I don't need it on pizza.
Starting point is 01:23:43 It gets too slimy on pizza. Interesting. All the time. Pepperoni pizza is fine. Cheese pizza don't need it on pizza. It gets too slimy on pizza. Interesting. All the time. Mmm. Pepperoni pizza is fine. Cheese pizza is better than pepperoni pizza, I think. Truly. Yeah, I kinda think cheese pizza is my favorite,
Starting point is 01:23:53 like overall pizza. I'm like, what the hell? I only have a cheese pizza. I can only have one pizza, it'd be cheese. I don't know, I don't think that's crazy. Jesus Christ. The hell's going on? Somebody help me. Somebody help me.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Somebody help me. Cheese pizza also, when we're at, where was the place in DC? I forgot it. Oh yeah, when we want to go to Comet Ping Pong. Comet Ping Pong? Give me the CP, please. I had a Comet Ping Pong shirt. My mom was like helping me do like, she always will help me like, throw that stuff away. And I was like, I had the Comet Ping Pong shirt. My mom was like helping me do like, she always will help me like,
Starting point is 01:24:25 throw that stuff away. And I was like, I had the Comet Ping Pong shirt. She's like, do you want to keep that? And I was like, how can I even describe to my mom why I have this shirt? See this guy, Leon Panetta, he wrote an email. You did, I feel like one time we hung out, you ordered a big sausage pizza.
Starting point is 01:24:42 And then when it came, you and the pizza guy like went off and ate it together. And I was like, is there any of that pizza left? Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. Alan was there.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Alan was over and I like, I had work to do. I was filming a porno and I didn't tell Alan. So you said you wanted a big, big sausage pizza. Yeah. I was wondering what that wanted a big sausage pizza. Yeah. I was wondering what that camera crew was doing there. Yeah, and then I went upstairs and I sucked that guy off, the guy with the, yeah. God damn, dude.
Starting point is 01:25:13 There was no pizza in the box, Alan. I would have sucked that guy off. What the hell, man? I thought we were friends. You know, I should have shared. I know, I'm sorry. I think there were, like, what Mitch told me later is there were, like, SAG-AFTRA rules where like
Starting point is 01:25:26 it was a union shoot so they couldn't like get you on there because of like- Because of your anti-union status? Yeah. Well, you weren't on the call sheet, so like it was really like a violation of procedure. During the SAG strike, you were on studio lots marching inside the lot, right?
Starting point is 01:25:41 Like you were kind of like, like protecting the lot. Right. Yeah. I stand with Zaslav. You had that picket sign I remember. You guys remember a lot from that strike. I really kind of hoped people would forget that. Wow. Here's my Domino's order. I'll do sausage and onion and maybe pepperoni and green pepper, but Domino's is different from. That's its own thing. That's its own thing. If I go to like a New York slice shop,
Starting point is 01:26:14 I want to get a cheese slice. Give me a cheese slice. Give me a cheese slice. The best pizza. The stuffed crust. Stuffed crust? Stuffed crust always disappoints. Do you like stuffed crust?
Starting point is 01:26:22 I do. Oh man, every time I get in I'm like. What the hell is going on here? Cause I don't like to eat all the crust unless it's stuffed. Like I do. Oh man. Every time I get in, I'm like. What's going on here? Because I don't like to eat all the crust unless it's stuffed. Like I eat to the crust. It's not too cheesy. It's not too like, because I always find like the texture is unpleasant.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I thought y'all were Mr. Cheese. I do like cheese, but I don't need extra cheese in the crust that's unga-pachka. Dave and Buster's, Bolero, Hawaiian pizza stuffed crusts. You are a damn child. Sonny's ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I thought my Monster Burger was again, perfectly fine. I mean, I cut that sum bitch in half. We were all sharing, taking bites of it. What did you think? I liked that. I really liked that burger. Yeah, I thought it was good.
Starting point is 01:27:11 It was fine. I liked it. It was so monstrous about it, if you ask me. It wasn't particularly monstrous. I guess if you want to say it was a half pound. I think this is one where it would have been addition by subtraction to get rid of the extra patty. There are two patties on there.
Starting point is 01:27:21 It was just like kind of too much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the monstrous thing about it is that it reminds you that we, maybe we were the monsters all along. Hmm. Right. Yeah. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:27:33 That is a good point. I was, I was just kind of thinking of our global food supply, you know, system and, uh, how we're all complicit in like factory farming and, you know, I did, yeah, it did kind of give me those thoughts. Double patty. I think it's Paul Russ said Doug Funny's dream scenario, right? Was it Paul? Sounds right. Yeah, I think it was Paul. Or Homer's nightmare.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Homer, it would be a Homer's nightmare. This show, this show sucks. When you're tired. We're doing great. We're doing great. What minute are we at? I think this is a great episode. I started the timer for wags at the hour mark, so that puts an hour. It's off.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Oh, fuck. It's on hour 24. We're at an hour 24. We're at an hour 24. We're doing great. Molasses boy, you always. Hey, I've done my job. Jimmy left, Jimmy got scared. Jimmy. Molasses boy. you always. Hey. Oh, you woke Jimmy up. I've done my job. Jimmy left, Jimmy got scared.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Jimmy. Jimmy. Molasses boy. He's stretching. Oh, now she's sleeping on the floor. Yeah. You have a nice rejuvenating nap. She's like, when's the show start?
Starting point is 01:28:39 Uh, we gotta get, all right, hold on. You had your monster burger. It was, I had to bite it up, I thought it was under seasoned. It was definitely under seasoned. My grilled chicken wrap sucked and I was using ranch to just, I was putting ranch on it because there was a honey mustard sauce and it was not, it just didn't work well.
Starting point is 01:28:58 And that is actually maybe the only thing where I saw lettuce. There was lettuce in that wrap. There was. But the wrap was the worst thing we had, probably. It doesn't feel like the kind of thing you should be able to mess up. But it was just completely devoid of flavor.
Starting point is 01:29:11 It was bad. And just kind of had that weird, like, kind of gummy, chewy texture to everything. There was a good puzzle. In this scenario, gummy is not yummy. I agree with you. Gummy's not yummy. Maybe it would have been better if you crisp it up,
Starting point is 01:29:21 but then all of a sudden now you're adding calories, and it's not as healthy. Sorry to head gum., gummy's not yummy. Well, I think gummy is yummy a lot of the time. We're in studio H right now. Are we in studio H? Yep, yeah, you got it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:35 How did you not know? I can't remember. Just like the word head gum, the H came first. H is first. G came first. G came second. So the smaller studio is the H, the adjunct, the bigger studio is the G.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Yes. I need a mnemonic for this. How about, just remember that you dumb ass. I always forget. H, head gum. The first studio you see when you walk in is also the first letter of the word, head gum. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:29:59 G, giant. Yeah, G, giant. G, giant, G, G, or grande. That's a big one. Well, H could be huge, so that could mess you up too. That's gonna confuse me. Is that a mnemonic? Now I get huge in my head.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Is a... Why are you such a fucking idiot? I don't understand it. Mr. Smart Guy, you talk about, you know, you know stuff. You know, you read left and right. I have trouble like keeping things in my head though. You know, I think it's just like... It's like one of those things he doesn't have to remember, Amelia Amelia and I do though so he can like let it fall out of his brain
Starting point is 01:30:28 That might be part of it. It's okay. I will remember it is very this is we're in studio H This is our home studio H. H is dead. Come a new Monika's it is dead come It sounds like a Deadpool villain. Just to help you remember. Dead come. Oh, that is a good way to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dead come. Dead come is kind of the dope boys below the waist.
Starting point is 01:30:56 A bunch of sperm like floating on their backs. Yeah. It's like one of those cars in the apocalypse that has gas in it, but it's just not, it's not going to run if you turn it on. Gas has gone bad. Did you catch my drift? You got to siphon it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Slurp, slurp. What the hell is happening? Christ. What the hell is happening? Christ. The hell is going on here, Wags? Albert. Albert's, I was in hard of control. Hey, somebody help me. Uh, I will say this.
Starting point is 01:31:37 All right. So the wrap sucked. Your things were good. The flatbread was whatever. It was fine. Let's get to the dessert. This was the piece de resistance, the Monster Cookie Melt.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Now this one was truly monstrous, and not just in the way of like reminding us about our own monstrous nature. Jumbo chocolate chip cookie topped with vanilla ice cream, whipped cream and chocolate sauce. This is great. Also disagree with you, it wasn't that big. We ate this in like a minute.
Starting point is 01:32:02 The three of us fucking destroyed this thing. No, you're right. It wasn't that big. It was gone in 60 seconds. We kind of wussed that bad boy down. I saw Charlize Theron nodded at us when we finished it. She's in that movie. Isn't she?
Starting point is 01:32:21 Is it Angelina Jolie? Oh my God, it's Angelina Jolie. I think it's Jolie, yeah. Yeah. I had a Jolie folly. Classic Jolie folly. Angelina Foley. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:35 She's just, she works in sound. She works in sound. She works in sound. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know about Angelina Foley? I do, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:45 She's like a, yeah, she works in sound. Does like sound design for movies and TV. She's great, she's a prince. Yeah, her and Billy Bob THX. Billy Bob THX, because they kind of work on different sides. Like he's doing post-production audio I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. also not in the movie Salt. Wait, she is. Angelina. Folly. But she's great in
Starting point is 01:33:36 Mad Max. Oh fuck. Mad Max Fury Road? Fury Road, yeah. Now you're thinking of Charlize Theron. You just had... Oh, fuck. Man-baked Fury Road? Fury Road, yeah. Now you're thinking of Charlie's there and you just had. Oh, come on. A thorough thum-thumble. Oh, fuck this shit. Let's move on.
Starting point is 01:33:52 And I was gonna say another Angelina Folley. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I've established. Anyways, it was gone in 60 seconds. It was really yummy. And by the way, I looked over, Nicolas Cage nodded a little bit on that shit. Hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:34:09 I thought that was, like, there's parts of it that tasted like, okay, this is maybe kind of a frozen grocery store cookie that's been cooked in a pizza oven. 100%. But still, it tasted great. It was really yummy, and I I think the purpose of this place, kid's birthday party. If I was a kid, I would fucking be over
Starting point is 01:34:30 the moon eating this coche on Sunday. I thought it was, it was, it was great from that standpoint. It was great. I, it was, I think it was the bite of the night. Yeah. Definitely the best thing we ate. But then let's get to me turning into Big
Starting point is 01:34:44 Earn slash Big Lebowski fucking wiping the floor with you guys at bowling. Oh shit. Mitch, when you stepped up and grabbed that ball, I had to think of you, not as Mike Mitchell the spoon man, but as pure power. Wow. You were just throwing those balls down the lane
Starting point is 01:35:01 and you got three strikes in the first four frames. That's right. I was shocked. Well, you had told me, I'll tell you where it came from. You had told me that like the thing about me going under and getting my dicks out by the machine, like wasn't feasible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:15 And I was just really pissed off at that point. I was a fucking slinging the strikes. You, you would watch, you just, you were like hot off watching bowling for Columbine. So you were primed and ready. I, I, that's, it's a, it's a, it's a weekly tradition of mine. I watched bowling for Columbine. We'd watch it together.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Yeah. I watch it together. I say what I would have done differently. I never would have interviewed Marilyn Manson. I think it, I think it messes up the whole documentary. Um, I, uh, I, I am not that great of a bowler, honestly. I think I'm just okay. You could have fooled me.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Wiped the floor with us. Yeah. Um, we each got a strike. We each got a strike and a spare. And that was my whole goal. But I got it. You know what? I was happy we did.
Starting point is 01:36:09 I had fun doing it. I did have fun. It was really fun. Yeah. I think this is a good place for the casual bowler. Yeah. I bowled a 124. Alan, you bowled us 99, 1.0 under 100,
Starting point is 01:36:20 which I got a little special screen for bowling over 100. Wiggs, not sure if this was intentional. You bowled a 69. It was intentional. I actually got there before it, but I was waiting for you guys. I was trying to bowl a 420. Um, so I bowled a perfect game and then they were like, that's the high that you actually can't go higher than 300.
Starting point is 01:36:42 I was like, this fucking sucks. So the next, next time I bowled a 69. So 369 is what you bowled. Yeah, that's what, yeah go higher than 300. I was like, this fucking sucks. So the next time I bowled it, the 69. So 369 is what you bowled. Yeah, that's what I had, totally, yeah. No, I don't feel like I had a good outing, but it had been like so long since I'd been bowling. And it is a thing, like I do sometimes, I do always have fun bowling.
Starting point is 01:37:00 I used to bowl a lot in high school. I was like, I was definitely better at it than I was earlier this week. But it is like, it is the sort of thing of, I wish I knew how to do the spin. Cause there was a guy next to us who was doing that little spin thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And it just looked so cool. There was a guy who had three lanes to himself and he was just bowling strikes and doing spins. Yeah. He was good as hell. Yeah, he was a cool thing to do. He had cool balls too. He did have cool balls. He did have really cool balls. He had really cool balls. Yeah. He was a cool thing to do. He had cool balls too. He did have cool balls.
Starting point is 01:37:25 He did have really cool balls. Yeah. 420, the- They were like the clear ones. Is the Columbine, when you said 420, is the Columbine anniversary. And I believe Sheriff Hoodie's birthday. Was it Sheriff Hoodie? Uh, it's on Sheriff Hoodie? It's a Sheriff Hoodie.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Yeah, my birthday may be on 420, but I don't smoke the sticky icky. What do you smoke? Though I don't prosecute those who do because I'm progressive. Oh, that is, that's, that's, he's progressive. He's progressive, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he'll be an enduring character. Picture of the podcast. We also, I want to say we also played a,
Starting point is 01:38:10 what was the pinball machine? We tried to liberate Kenny from the claw machine. That was part of what we tried to do. We tried to get Kenny, oh my God, we saved Kenny, would have been the headline. That would have been great. That would have been great. We couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:38:21 We were close a couple times. It's just, those claw machines are such fucking scams because it's just like, oh, it's perfectly lined up. It goes down and it plunges way too deep. And it like grabs like a Kirby underneath the Kenny. And then just, you know, like you don't get either. I got pretty close to you. And this is a giant one too.
Starting point is 01:38:35 It's a big one. It's a big claw machine. You got the video of it. It did lift him up a little bit. I almost got, I felt like I was on fire from the coming off this, he did this great bowling, my great bowling performance. Yeah. Um, but, uh, it was impossible. I think, I think there are just, I think,
Starting point is 01:38:50 I think that you can't win. They're rigged, but I will say the, the, this has like a, like a Dave and Buster's like arcade area. And again, part of why people have complained about Bolero if they're, they're an avid bowler is that's where like maybe the pro shop used to be. Pro shop is gone. Uh, you can't get your fancy shoes or your custom ball or your cool matching shirts there anymore. Now it's all arcade games for kids and for adults. You were saying the one in Santa Anita, which you've been to, has a much bigger arcade area,
Starting point is 01:39:17 like more of a David Buster style. Yeah, it's gigantic. I thought I was gonna be like, it also has a pro shop, but it's just a bigger arcade area. Well, it's a bigger, they do have like a, I guess where the pro shop would be there is like the, where you bring your tickets to your winnings or whatever to get a toy or you'll get some kind of, and they had some like pretty, cause the one in Pasadena has a machine, has an automated situation there for that transaction.
Starting point is 01:39:40 But there's one, there's like a physical like area with a lot of different kind of, um, uh, very impressive prices. They were like, uh, game controllers and stuff like that. So I don't know. Um, so it wasn't just like dolls or like stickers or little kid shit. It's like real man stuff, like game controllers. Hell yeah. Like big stuffed Kenny's. Um, but that's an interesting one just to see it because it's right underneath. It's like the Bolero and the Dave and Buster's at that Santa Anita mall are stacked right on top of each other. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:40:16 So they are really in competition mode over there. And Dave and Buster's was doing a remodel of their situation when I checked it out just to get a comparison. And the main takeaway, so I don't know what they're changing over there, but they're kind of like upping their game, which is maybe good. And then, but what I noticed was that the Dave and Buster's
Starting point is 01:40:37 was way louder than Bolero. Wow, that's a surprise. Yeah. Can I say something? When. When we were bowling, his dork ass fucking looked up like tips on bowling. I did, I was like, try it, like, how are you supposed to do this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Cause you know, that's how I learned. And like, I was like, oh, you got the arrows on the thing you can aim at. So I started having a little bit more success when I aimed at the arrows that were on the floor ahead of, but I don't know the technique is the thing. Also a lot of wow, there was don't know the technique is the thing. Also a lot of wow, there was a lot of wows around the place.
Starting point is 01:41:09 A lot of wows. The signage, yes, there's a big wow on the wall and Alan, you took a picture of me in front of the wow. Yeah. Hot, I took a picture. There's a big hot. Yeah. Bowling shoes are gross, right? We can all agree on that, like sharing bowling,
Starting point is 01:41:21 they're kind of gross. They're kind of gross, but they're kind of fun to wear. They're kind of fun to wear. I like them, they're kind of warm. They're a little gross, but they're kind of fun to wear. They're kind of fun to wear. I like them. They're kind of warm. They're a little slippery and slide. That's the funniest thing I ever saw. They're kind of gross, but they're kind of fun to wear. And I looked over here, I turned around and then Emma and Amelia both are gone. Both nodding.
Starting point is 01:41:35 It's like, oh, okay. Those slips slide in? Yeah. They look so cool. They're kind of fun looking. I had a blast bowling. I was glad we did it. Yeah, I was glad we did it.
Starting point is 01:41:48 It was fun. What did we do? So we did the claw machine and then what was the pinball? Batman pinball. Batman pinball. It was Batman the old series. Yeah, Adam West and Batman. Yeah, it was Batman and Albert and the other guy.
Starting point is 01:42:02 The Laffer. They did that soup scene. That soup scene in the mirror, the laffer. They did that soup scene, that soup scene. The laffer. Um, we played that for a second and then those are the only games we played, right? Uh, we also got a picture in the picture. We did get a picture. I actually have it in my car.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Wow. My car is so far away. I'm not kidding it. Sorry. Go get it. Because the Hollywood handbook guys had a park in the parking lot. Oh, here we go. Sure.
Starting point is 01:42:30 We've been the, you're loyal podcast for years, headgum, but the Hollywood handbook guys, they take it. They had an earlier slot. Self-driving Teslas or whatever the fuck they have. What am I doing? They're going to kill me. Anyway. We'll edit this out. You'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, Emma, please.
Starting point is 01:42:47 No. Let's get to our final thoughts on Bolero. So, Alan, you know the drill. You know the podcast. We'll each go around. We will give this a rating from zero to five forks. Molasses Boy, are you ready? I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:42:58 I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Let's get to our final thoughts on Bolero. So Alan, you know the drill, you know the podcast. We'll each go around.
Starting point is 01:43:06 We will give this a rating from zero to five forks. Molasses Boy, our guest. Yes, it's five forks. Oh. What we get with you. Oh, okay, does that new? It's how it's always been. It's always been five forks.
Starting point is 01:43:17 All right. Day one of the podcast. Oh, I didn't know that. Forks? Yeah, forks, five forks. Oh, okay. Dear God. Great. Yeah, sounds good. Yeah. Oh,ks? Yeah, forks. Oh, okay. Dear God. Great. Yeah, sounds good.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Yeah. Oh, me? Yeah, you go. I thought you were reading off your notes. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. So here we go.
Starting point is 01:43:38 All right. I'm looking there. I do have like a... He's got a Google search open that says Albert or Alfred. He doesn't fucking believe us. I'm looking there. I do have like, I think I know. He's got a Google search open that says Albert or Alfred in Batman. He doesn't fucking believe us. Ha ha ha. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go back and watch that one
Starting point is 01:43:52 and make sure y'all are. Watch that one, you mean all the Batman? Yeah, I'm gonna watch it and make sure it's consistent. I'm pretty sure there's one or two where he's Albert. Ha ha ha. Okay, so I love a party atmosphere. Yeah, sure. I'm a party animal.
Starting point is 01:44:06 You're a guy who'll tie one on. Yeah, I'm still at the party. Yeah. Don't know when to leave. Probably should go. Last one out. So I like that, I like the, yep. True.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Yep, yep, yep. Tell me, make sure to give me a little nod if it's time to go, because I don't pick up on any other cues. You help me out. But yeah, so you know, like I said. Yeah, I remember having a dinner party, and I'm like, I'm in bed with like a stocking cap on,
Starting point is 01:44:39 and Alan is just kind of standing in a corner with a beer. I'm like, it's time to get the fuck out of here. You know, you remember this, yeah. Yeah'm like, time to get the fuck out of here. You remember this. Yeah, yeah. And I thought you were joking around for like an hour. They're like, what's the stocking gap, dude? That's so funny. Where is everybody?
Starting point is 01:44:56 Like, they'll laugh. I mean, a stocking gap is funny, to be fair. It is. Yeah, it's a funny thing to wear. But it's cozy. But I like the vibe. I think, I think what my, I think that Bolero is very fun in a party atmosphere where, you know, I feel like going there
Starting point is 01:45:18 with, with y'all, I was more, the veil was kind of like lifted a little bit because I didn't have, it wasn't chaotic. Like I wasn't sort of like lifted a little bit because I didn't have, there, it wasn't chaotic. Like I wasn't sort of like tracking a kid or like, uh, that's not weird. Uh, but you know, watching, making sure my child is okay. Um, any kids from rebel arrow. Uh, you know, but the, so it's like, you know, so stuff like, you know, the, the, like, you know, the, the music that became annoying to me when we were there, it wasn't even something
Starting point is 01:45:53 I've noticed before. You know what I mean? I kind of liked the, we were getting into them. We were watching the old music videos and I was, and we were enjoying some of the music. Yeah, that's true. We were, we were, it was, there was some, uh, nostalgic, uh, videos going there, but it was, it just didn't stand out to me. Like I was even a part of the atmosphere and then, uh, but so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:11 So I do think, uh, that Bolero is great for like a casual bowler, you know, if you don't mind a little, a little, you know, chicken finger grease on the ball, you know, like maybe that helps your game. Um, uh, so I don't know about the league guys, you know, like maybe that helps your game. Um, So, I don't know about the league guys, you know, maybe they don't like it. I'm not sure but Staff was friendly like sheer manzoukis I'm curious what the league guys think about Bolero and I hope we do a follow-up with all the The cast of the league we'll get them on we'll get them. We've had a lot of them on. Yeah, we're missing around as easy
Starting point is 01:46:52 He's overdue. Yeah, he's got he's got a really interesting story about 9-eleven, but So But if I Uh, but if I, so yeah, so, but you know, factoring all that in, I, so I, I enjoy, I enjoy generally Bolero. Um, but yeah, the food, the food, like once I just had time to kind of focus on that with y'all, like I really, okay, this, this kind of like certain things kind of knocked it down a little bit. I enjoyed my cauliflower wings and, and the flatbread pizza and the
Starting point is 01:47:27 burger and a lot of the stuff on that sampler plate. I'm going to say that Bolero, I want to calculate all that and say Bolero is a three and a half forks. Good score. Very fair. Spoon man. What do you think? Man, the food's not great. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:58 We said it was in probably the, the appetizer, the whatever appetizer platter is still in the six top 60 percentile, 60th percentile, which is damning to appetizer platters. still in the six top 60 percentile, 60th percentile, which is damning to appetizer platters. It was, it wasn't horrible. There was nothing I ate that I was like, this is bad, except for my main, the wrap was just kind of bad. Um, I wish I did more with the theming. I wish the menu was a little bit more elaborate. I wish I, you know, I, I, I think that it's a lot of fun. Um, and it's like, you can grab chicken fingers and be eating it down on the,
Starting point is 01:48:31 in the lanes like other people were. We weren't doing that. Uh, but let me tell you that I have a blast with two of my great friends that I've known since these piss drinking and dog shit eating days. Yes. I, I, I, I, I had a blast. I, I can't deny it that I was having a good time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Um, and, uh, I think I'm going to go hang. I'll go handholding club. I don't think this place could ever get to four forks for me, unless they like. Really did a good, you know, a big menu change. It's the food is not good, but also like, that's a small part of that experience, right? It's not the whole thing here. What they're trying to do, they do pretty well. So I'm going to go three and a half forks. I'll go with you.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Three and a half forks. Good score. With the caveat of the food is not good. You are correct. And that's why my score is going to be just a, a, a hair lower, which is that we, you know, we, hey, we're, we're the podcast about chain restaurants. We're talking about the food. And I think the food here is fine at best. And none of the drinks or menu items were like exciting at all. Like it was all stuff that was just like, this is going to get the job done. This will be sustenance or this will be an alcohol delivery mechanism. But I think the overall experience of a
Starting point is 01:49:46 Bolero in terms of the thesis statement of the podcast, which you alluded to, what is this chain trying to do? It is trying to present a fun bowling experience for the casual bowler or the non bowler. And I think it does that very, very effectively. The lighting that you mentioned, you know, sort of the sort of neon sort of chill wave sort of vibe that it has inside of it. We talked about the music videos and they also have live sports that are projected on top of the lanes. So if you're kind of
Starting point is 01:50:11 checked out of the bowling aspect, you can still can take that in. And, you know, I thought that the workers were all were all great and super friendly. And it felt like the accommodations were just, there was just something to do depending on whatever your level of enthusiasm was for bowling, or if you wanted to play video games, or if you just wanted to hang out at the bar, all your bases were covered.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Seems like a great spot for kids, as you can attest to. And so I think from that standpoint, the overall experience is close to four forks, but I think when you focus on the food, this is a three fork chain, and I think that's where Bolero belongs, just right in the middle of the bell curve. Hey, that was our, yeah. forks, but I think when you focus on the food, this is a three fork chain. And I think that's where Bolero belongs, just right in the middle of the bell curve.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Uh, hey, that was our. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Hot. Hot. Hot.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Wow. Wow. The two, the two phrases. Um, did I call my, I said Big Earn and I, did I say the Big Lebowski or did I say the dude? You said Big Lebowski. Is, uh, I did say, oh, see that's. When did you say big Lebowski?
Starting point is 01:51:06 When I say, when I was bowling you guys, I turned to the big Lebowski, but that's not. The guys, the main guy, the bowler, his name is the Albert, I mean the dude. Hey, that was our review of Bowler. What was the Charlize Theron? What was the one that, uh, the half attempt, what was the Charlize Theron one I said afterwards? It didn't stick as well as an Angelina Foley. Mitch, I don't remember it's actually right.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I don't remember either. It was bad, first of all. Why am I bringing it back up? Charlize Theron? Something like that? That's pretty fucking good. Charlize Theron? This guy's a good punch upper. They're wrong. They're wrong. Is that a sound thing?
Starting point is 01:51:49 Like the wrong. You said what he said. I thought, um, that's great. Oh, we got to do, we got to do sing. We got to eat. All right, here we go. So I. We got to eat. I've got a food related exam and Mitch and molasses boy must compete for superiority. It's slop quiz and Hey, this is compelled by a
Starting point is 01:52:12 compelled Jesus Christ. Oh, here we go. Angelina Foley. Compelled. It's cause I was just eating an orange, which I don't know if our audio listeners even suspected. Yeah. But yeah, I ate an orange while molasses boy was talking through his review.
Starting point is 01:52:26 I know the full pint of mango. That's why I took my time with it. That's very generous of you. These are compiled by Amelia. This is Slop Quiz Ice Try. Mitch and Alan must answer ice related trivia. Here we go. Ice Try, question number one.
Starting point is 01:52:45 What is the freezing point of water in Celsius? Zero. Mitch gets it. Oh, it's a speed thing? Well, yeah, buzzing with- What the fuck? Honestly, yeah, this is pretty- He's giving Alan a handicap here.
Starting point is 01:52:59 We could do, we could trade. Well, we'll buzz, I want, he knows the rules now. We'll buzz in with your name. We'll try, we're the rules now. We're buzzing with your name. Okay, we're trying to hurry. Do you know what it is in Fahrenheit too? 32. Okay, just checking. Come on now.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Mitch gets a point here. I knew that. All right, next up, and again, buzzing with your name. You got ice? I'll read the full question. They're all about ice. All right, great. It's a slop quiz called an ice try.
Starting point is 01:53:23 So it's ice. Oh right, ice try. Okay, okay, It's a slop quiz called an ice try. So it's ice. Oh right, ice try. Okay, okay, okay. Like ice tray. Like ice tray. That's pretty good. That's what it's a pun off of. Question number two, blank,
Starting point is 01:53:35 is the scientific study of low temperatures and the behavior of materials in low temperatures? Cold science, cold science. I forgot the name thing. Alan, it's not cold science. Yeah, buzzing with your name, but you can, it's not cold science either. Mitch, cryogenics.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Mitch is correct, it is cryogenics. Colloquially known as cold science. You know, if you're at a party, it's like, hey, I work in cryogenics. Oh, what's that? That's kind of cold science, Like, oh, okay, okay. They call it cold cases. They might only call it cryocases.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Well, anyway. You must be Brad Pitt, because you're having Angelina Folley after Angelina Folley. Question number three. Why are clear ice cubes considered better for cocktails compared to cloudy ones? Looks aside.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Mitch. I heard Mitch. They're filtered, I guess, right? I think isn't that what it is? Judges? Clear versus cloudy? Kind of, but I don't, I mean, I don't know what they take out of it, but that's fine. Alan, you want to wager a guess?
Starting point is 01:54:37 What's the, what is this? Why is clear ice considered better for cocktails than cloudy ones? I think he's confused about the concept of an ice cube. All right. So this is all about ice trays Okay, wait, I didn't know there was a different what if there's clear versus cloudy I guess cuz cloudy has some kind of maybe chemical in it I Don't think I know the either gets our way there, but not quite all the way. Yeah, Emma used to tend the bar.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Yeah, we did not use clear cubes in my bar, because you have to pay somebody to make them. It's usually like a service. There's a service that makes them and delivers them to your bar. It costs a lot of money. They have fewer air bubbles and impurities, so they melt more slowly. Oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:55:22 All right, next up. I got that one. This is a multiple choice one. Okay. Bostonian businessman Frederick Tudor is credited with popularizing ice beverages and establishing ice trade in the early 19th century. Which nickname was he known by? I'll read all four.
Starting point is 01:55:39 A, Iceman, B, Frostbite, C, King Cube, D, Ice King. Alan. C. It, C King Cube, D Ice King. Alan. C. It's not King Cube. You thought King Cube? What? What? What?
Starting point is 01:55:55 What? What? What? What? What? It sounds like an old timey nickname. Sounds like a Mario villain, you fool. What? What? What? What? What? It's a good name. Sounds like a Mario villain, you fool. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:56:05 It's a good name. It is a good name. Can you read the writing three? A, Iceman, B, Frostbite, or D, Ice King. Alan. All right, no, you want, go ahead. D. It is Ice King.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Wow. Mitchell will allow it. You'll get a point. I allowed it. Next up. Yeah. Which famous Hollywood, this is not multiple choice, just buzz in. Which famous Hollywood actress is said to have used
Starting point is 01:56:33 iced water to keep her face looking youthful? Oh. This is an old timey actress. Might be a little bit of a tough one. Trying to think if we can give you a hint here. Alan. Go ahead, Alan. Bette Davis. Hmm, maybe a little bit of a tough one trying to think of if we can give you a hint here Alan go ahead Alan Betty Davis, it's not Betty Davis, but you're in the right sort of generation. Oh shit
Starting point is 01:56:55 Maybe I could give you a an initial like one of those videos What's the way what it was the initial the initials video that we were talking about earlier. There is a J involved. There is a J. There's a J involved. Is it Jack? Jack? Double points if it's Jack for each of us. Actress.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Actress, yes, yes, yes. Is it Jane? This is a lady. Jane? Oh, Jane, is it Jane Mansfield? No, it is Joan Crawford. Crawford. Joan Crawford.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Next up, which cocktail associated with a Kentucky Derby? Joan Crawfish could be a character too, just wanted to let you know. That would be fun, that's a good idea. Which cocktail associated with a Kentucky Derby? Joan Crawford's one of those people I think I learned about from The Simpsons. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:44 What is Joan Crawford's role? Whatever people I think I learned about from the Simpsons. Yeah. Like I just think didn't- What is Joan Crawford's role that are- Whatever happened to baby Jane? Is that her big- That's a great one. I think so. I learned about- Whatever happened to baby Jane is great. I learned about Bart from the Simpsons.
Starting point is 01:57:55 I also learned about Bart from the Simpsons. How about for Jane Croft, Croftfish, I'm ready for my gumbo, Mr. DeVille. How's that? Is that pretty good? Yeah, it's really good. She's not the actress who says that line. Right, but it's still good. It still works. Like for like an old timey actress sort of thing. All right, next up. Have you seen Sunset Boulevard?
Starting point is 01:58:21 Years ago. Oh, it's great. Yeah. It's good. And you know who's in it? Ever seen the musical? Sunset Boulevard? Years ago, yeah. Oh, it's great. It's good. And you know who's in it? Ever seen the musical? Sunset Boulevard? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:58:28 I didn't know there was one. Yeah, there was. It was a big Broadway thing for a time. Who's in it? Is it Buster Keaton that's in it? There's like old, there's like silent movies. Yeah, there is like a scene where they're- Oh wait, yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Or is it Charlie Chaplin? I know it's Buster Keaton. No, that is like a- Who is that man? Who is the main lady? Gloria Swanson? That's the character's name. Well, that's not helpful. Actually, I'm sorry to yell at you, but it is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:58:51 It is Gloria Swanson. Jesus. That's a good pole. I know, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to yell at you. Gloria Swanson is the actor. Norma Desmond is the... Yo, he got it right. I was the actor. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Alan. Yeah, Alan was right. I think you owe me an apology. I'm gonna give Alan a point did get it right. Oh my God. Oh, wow. Alan. Yeah, Alan was right. Thank you, Amey, and apology. I'm gonna give Alan a point for that one. Was he right about King Cube, too? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Which cocktail associated with the Kentucky Derby is traditionally served with a crushed ice?
Starting point is 01:59:14 Mitch, Mitch, Mitch Julep. Mint Julep. Mitch Julep could be a drink, though. I'll give you a point there. Ooh, wow. You mentioned the mint julep earlier. Yeah, you did. I didn't realize that was a Kentucky Derby drink.
Starting point is 01:59:28 Mm-hmm. All right, we're going into the lightning round. Isn't that your neck of the woods too? Kentucky? That's not too far, right? Is there any sort of Alabama-Kentucky rivalry? Not really. How far is Kentucky from Alabama?
Starting point is 01:59:43 Pretty close, right? I'm sure it's not far. I mean, it's- I mean, there's no way of knowing. Mississippi and Tennessee are closer. Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are there any interstate rivalries with Alabama, or is it the intrastate Auburn, Alabama thing,
Starting point is 01:59:59 that the main thing? Well, I-65 is pretty slow compared to some of your Kentucky highways. So yeah, there's a bit of a rivalry there. Got it, got it. Yeah. We're in the lightning round. So guess if this establishment's ice comes in either cubed or nugget. Ouch. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:29 It's still ice theme though. We're still in ice try, just the lightning round. Okay. This is confusing. Guess if the establishment's ice comes in either cube or nugget shaped. I will read the chain and you tell me cube or nugget. Thank you, Amelia. Put in the ringer for me.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Here we go. All right. First one, Taco Bell. Mitch, cube. You are correct. It is a cube. And this is the type of ice they have there? Yes. Is it a cube or is it a nugget? Okay, okay. Got you.
Starting point is 02:00:53 I-65, me in 24 years. Call back to an old joke. Just wanted to say it. I just wanted to get it out there. Mm. Next up, Del Taco. Alan. Nugget. No, it's Cube. I knew that.
Starting point is 02:01:11 I wasn't paying it. I wasn't doing this. These are going to get harder. Mod Pizza. Mod Pizza, Mitch. Mod Pizza. Cube. I'm sorry, Pellet.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Alan. I don't know what to do. It's Pellet. My answer is Pellet. I think Pellet is a good choice. I think Pellet is a good choice. I think Pellet is a good choice. I think Pellet is a good choice. I think Pellet is a good choice. I think Pellet is a good choice. I'm sorry, pellet. Alan. I don't know what to say. It's pellet, my answer is pellet. I think pellet and nugget are kind of interchangeable.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Okay, we'll give it to Mitch. Oh yeah, I love eating chicken pellets. They're so great. If you said I ate chicken pellets, I'd know what you were talking about. Maybe I wouldn't take chicken shit. You would take chicken shit. Yeah, fuck.
Starting point is 02:01:46 I'll give it to bitch. Jack in the Box is the next one. Jack in the Box. Mitch, cubed. You are correct. Golly. Another one. We don't really do pay attention to every detail.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Dunkin' Donuts. Mitch, cubed. You are correct. What the fuck? And last one. Zaxby's. Alan, cubed. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:02:07 I knew it. And I knew Del Taco too. I knew all of those, sadly. Have you been to Zaxby's? Yes. We have a tiebreaker to name five different ice shapes, but I don't think we'll need it because Mitch ran away with this one.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Can I do it for, out of fun? I want to see if I can get it. By a score of eight to two. Two? Pretty dominant. It's like our bowling all over again. Oh my God. Can I do the run of the other ones?
Starting point is 02:02:31 Sure. Let's hear them. You've already done cubed and nugget, so name some more ice shapes. Oh. You have to name them. Yeah, this is an open-ended one. Name five different ice shapes.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Star. Ball. Ball. Spherical? I think it's spherical, yeah, that one counts. Spikes. Spikes is not on here. They don't think you put spikes in like a drink. You can put like an icicle in like a cocktail. Large square.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Yeah, I'll take that one. It's two. Hmm. Round. I mean, Mitch already said. Oh, you said spherical? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Hang on. Other shapes, hang on. Other shapes, other shapes. Star shape, maybe? I don't see star on here. Oh, we're just gonna move on. This is fine. Where have you ever seen star shaped ice cubes?
Starting point is 02:03:17 Pentagon. Pentagon's not, y'all did great. Hey, just like a restaurant virus feedback, what's up with the feedback? Today's email's from Jonathan from Chicago. Jonathan writes, everyone knows a movie marathon is three movies in a row. My brother and I proposed that a movie
Starting point is 02:03:29 triathlon is a movie paired with two related events. For example, one could drink white Russians, go bowling and watch the big Lebowski. And one could volunteer at animal shelter, eat lasagna and watch Garfield, the movie. We found the best examples usually involved with a food or drink component. So I'm bringing this to you, the experts.
Starting point is 02:03:46 What would your ideal movie triathlon be? So we've got movie. I pay attention. All right, it's movie, food or drink and activity. Like combine those three. What are they doing? Can we just hear quickly again? White Russians go bowling and watch the Big Lebowski.
Starting point is 02:04:04 That's good Volunteer an animal shelter eat lasagna watch Garfield That's sort of shit. No, that's right. That's another example examples. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, they're pretty good Huh? How about oh eat toss salad and scrambled eggs? Watch Frazier and then get in a fight with your brother. I thought you were going to say toss someone's salad. Oh, so then you just eat the scrambled eggs and then you toss the salad. Yeah, toss the salad. Maybe do those in the reverse order.
Starting point is 02:04:33 That's pretty nasty. That's pretty good. You got one? I'm thinking on it. Let's see. How about like a Rocky? You watch Rocky. This is good to sell.
Starting point is 02:04:42 You run up some steps and then you go eat yourself a big old, you know, a I'm thinking on it. How about like a Rocky? You watch Rocky. This is good as hell. You run up some steps, and then you go eat yourself a big old, you know, hunk of meat or something. Oh wow. Like a big thing you can punch in, yeah. How about you watch Top Gun,
Starting point is 02:04:56 and you fly a jet. Good. And have an ice cold drink after it. Like a ice. That's pretty good. That's the kind of thing they do in Top Gun, they have an ice cold drink at a certain point. And a, cause Iceman.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Yeah, cause Iceman, you're right. White Russians, that is a good one with the big Lebowski. That is good. So go bowling. Man, so something that's like a theme of the movie. I mean, look, you could also do with Kingpin. You could do, but there's no drink connection. What's the food with Kingpin?
Starting point is 02:05:28 Yeah, I mean, they just kind of like getting drunk and getting high, but I don't know if there's a specific signature food. You know, maybe one of your favorite movies, Mitch, is Goodfellas, certainly a big food and drink movie. If you could think of an activity that- Go out for like a red tablecloth Italian dinner. Oh, there you go, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:43 You could do that. And then, but what's the activity afterwards? Fucking whack someone. Fucking whack off. Yeah, you don't whack someone, that's all you do, you just whack off. Oh yeah, that's good. Hmm, I like this question, it's a challenge.
Starting point is 02:05:58 It's hard though, this is the sort of thing where it's like when you're asked, when people ask you to improvise a specific thing or something, where it's just hard to come up with something. If you were a superhero who based on fast food, what would your name and power be? You know, it's just sort of things like, okay, I gotta kind of invent here.
Starting point is 02:06:16 But it is a good exercise. I wonder if maybe some of our listeners out there have a little bit time to think about this, could come up with some answers. Hashtag movie myathalon. Let us know what your combo would be. Myathalon. Hashtag movie myathalon.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Watch fried green tomatoes, make fried green tomatoes, then go for a nice little Sunday drive. That's fun. That's lovely. Do they drive around in the movie? Yeah, I think so. Someone gets run over by a train, I think. Oh, right. Well, there's like a part where Kathy Bates,
Starting point is 02:06:48 like somebody steals her parking space at the grocery store. Yes, they miss scene. And then she bonk them with her car or something like that. Yeah, she's like, it's like two young girls and they pull in there like, we're younger and faster. And she's like, I'm older to have more
Starting point is 02:07:04 insurance. She like hits their car. That's good to sell. There you go. A lot of fun. Good pull, both of you. We're just off of, we're just coming off of pink, our month of Alexander Payne movies, Mitch.
Starting point is 02:07:14 I wonder if there's an Alexander, I mean, naturally Sideways is a pretty obvious candidate. You watch Sideways, you don't drink any fucking Merlot, you drink some wine. That's fun. You drink some wine, yeah. And then maybe you go on a nice walk through the countryside. A vineyard. Or through a vineyard, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:31 The great movie, Tom Hanks, Forrest Albert, Forrest Gump. You watch the movie. You do some chocolate tasting. And then you go for a run. Go for a long run. That's great. That's a good one. You watch the movie, you do some chocolate tasting, and then you go for a run. Go for a long run, that's great. You go for a nice run together. Wow.
Starting point is 02:07:50 This is fun. After you see a movie and eat chocolates, you wanna go for a run. Well, you can go for the run first, and then you eat the chocolates. Yeah. Let us know what yours would be, hashtag moviemyathlon. You can also eat a bunch of shrimp,
Starting point is 02:08:02 or also you could go to fucking Bubble Gum Shrimp Company if you wanted to be really on the nose. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can listen. I was just thinking other things forested. He forested so many things. You know what I mean? The friends lieutenant Dan.
Starting point is 02:08:14 He had a kind of a crazy life actually. It's kind of wild what he lived through. Like he was like, you know, he was a star at Alabama. He was a star, star football player. Real time. Yeah. And then he was. He was a star, star football player. Real time. Yeah. And then he was. He told the president he had to pee.
Starting point is 02:08:28 He told the president he had to pee. He gave like a speech at like a Vietnam veterans thing at the mall in Washington, but then the microphone went out, drew that, but then Jenny was there. He was like, he was like, but he didn't really know, he was just talking from the heart. Jenny was there.
Starting point is 02:08:43 It ended up being actually a really nice moment. Yeah. Cause she like saw him and up being actually a really nice moment. Yeah. Because she saw him and they reunited and everyone cheered anyway. Then he was at January 6th in Gump too, which hasn't come out yet. Yes, right. He goes to January 6th.
Starting point is 02:08:53 He goes to January 6th. And he accidentally breaks down the door. It was moving. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, he had a crazy life. Yeah. It's wild where he lived through.
Starting point is 02:09:04 Did you know him at all? Yeah, he was both kind of Alabama celebrities. You ever crossed paths with Forrest Gump? Yeah, because he crossed paths with everybody, you know? But it's just they don't put that in the movie, like every single person, but some of the highlights. But yeah, he ran by me one day on campus and my hat spun around
Starting point is 02:09:25 because he was so fat. That should have been in the movie, honestly. I thought it was very cinematic, which is what I said to Bob Zemeckis. Yeah, you call him Bob. Yeah. That's the documentarian who was filming this app as it happened, basically.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Yeah, wait, is that, is that the film? I mean, I know he- Is that Zemeckis? Yeah, it was Zemeckis. Yeah, yeah. It was Z as it happened, basically. Yeah. Wait, is that... I mean, I know he... Is that his amicus? Yeah, it was his amicus. It was his amicus, yeah. He was filming the Forrest Gump documentary over a series of many years. Oh, right, right, right. And so he probably captured that on film,
Starting point is 02:09:54 but he just didn't make the edit. Yeah, I think he's gonna release it probably sometime. That's what I'm saying, because that's overdue. When they do like a 4K re-release, like, give us all that extra footage. Like, I'll do like an extra two hours of Gump. I just want to see more about like hit the real life of this person yeah you know yeah I agree some of the regular folks he ran by yeah
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Starting point is 02:11:54 We love our molasses boy. We love our molasses boy. So thank you all. The podcast is great, it's you and a guest and you're taking a walk and you're talking about it. Anything else people should know about it? And the social media they can follow or anything? Oh yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 02:12:33 Yeah. Before we go, um, final, uh, you want to just give us a four updated forks growing Waffle House? We'll give it five. Canonically Waffle House is in the Platinum Plate Club. Update the Wiki Vinod. Wow. That'll do it for this episode of Doughboys.
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