Doughboys - Buddy's Detroit-Style Pizza w/ Marisa Pinson (LIVE)

Episode Date: August 25, 2022

Marisa Pinson (Angie Tribeca, Don't Trust The B-) joins the 'boys to discuss bathroom habits, meat-eating, and Faygo before a review of Buddy's Pizza. Plus, another edition of Let Me Be Frank. Recorded live at The Majestic Theatre in Detroit 8/6/22.Trying to skip the rough audio? The bulk of it is from 03:09-10:40. Marisa is introduced at 12:42 and her mic is missing until 13:36. Timestamps may vary slightly based on ad placement. Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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at first. Emma worked her magic as much as she could, but it's still pretty gnarly in the early going. Anyway, we'll put the timestamps in the episode description of when everything gets back to normal audio wise, which is shortly after Marissa joins, but just be advised, it's bad. Worse than usual. All right, enjoy the show. Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan. Variants of this idiom have been uttered for thousands of years, but President John F. Kennedy put it most famously after the disastrous U.S. funded failed Cuban invasion known as the Bay of Pigs. The phrase certainly is true when it comes to beloved regional dishes. Witness the ongoing

disputes over who rightfully invented Philadelphia's cheese steak or San Francisco's mission-style burrito or Los Angeles's French dip sandwich or the fucked up thing that Chicagoans call a hot dog. But there's one exception that proves the rule. One dish where a mountain of evidence rightfully points toward a soul creator, Detroit-style pizza, universally attributed to Gus Guerra in 1946. Searching for a new signature dish to serve to patrons at his speakeasy turn to eatery, Guerra found inspiration in the right angled pies of his ancestral Sicily and appropriated a blue steel pan used in auto parts sanitation to execute his vision. This new type of pizza featuring a striking square form factor,

lighter dough than Chicago's version, and a generous mound of brick cheese from nearby Wisconsin soon outsold the hot sandwiches offered by the restaurant then called the rendezvous, and the entire concept was rebranded as a pizzeria. While Guerra sold the original and opened a new pizza restaurant called Cloverleaf, the pie brand he created has endured for over 75 years and now has around 20 locations in Michigan. And as shown by recent failed attempts by national chains like Pizza Hut to proffer their own Detroit-style pies, there's nothing quite like the original. This week on Doughboys, we say hey buddies, Detroit-style pizza. What's up, everyone? Welcome to Doughboys. How you doing?

Thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you for being so patient through a wait-or-return. And folks, this week's roast is courtesy of Gary. Let me introduce my co-host, Kebab Seeker in the Silver Gullet Band. Let's throw that back into it. Too tired. Really too tired. I meant from dancing. Detroit Doughboys show. That was my take on the Detroit basketball thing they say at the games. Very good. How are you doing?

I was hard to dance the awesome parts because I couldn't really hear it. Yeah, we can't quite hear things on stage, I don't know much what you mean. That's good. I don't want to hear us. Yeah, I don't want to hear us at all. No, actually, don't change anything. Don't listen to him. Oh dude, do I look good to you? You look good. Tea.

And clothes shorts. Looks like a minion. Banana. Do you like it? Sure. Thank you. Which we should address. You play in the Austin Power steam. You did your little dance. That officially doesn't match this. Your turn to join us is a silly show. Oh no. That's the luck of the draw. They got a silly show.

Silly show, like we said, doesn't guarantee you good. Not at all. I mean, like a big part of my prep was wearing the minions outfit. Why? It's how you do it. I'm hanging in there. I think we're doing well. Here's my question for you. How does it feel to be tonguey? You can feel it with the roughly since we landed in Milwaukee. And certainly the only things to eat in this entire region of the United States are dairy and then bread.

Yes. And Fango. Wow, I hope ICP is here. I was hurting wives. As you know, I was hurting when we flew. My stuff was hurting when we flew in. When we flew in from Phoenix to Milwaukee. And it was kind of inconsiderate of me. I told you that I was praying for the plane to go down. I was inconsiderate to you and Marissa. But I...

Yeah, them too, I guess. But I was really hurting. But I'm better now. Hey, a day in Michigan. That's what cures what LGL wives. We drove half day of driving across Michigan. We drove from Milwaukee straight to buddies. Straight here. Yes.

Weigur showered here. There were guys in the hazmat suits spraying it down. I was really concerned about pulling a Charlie Rose on someone. I was like, Jesus Christ, give us his doors double locked. B.E. Wong was scraping up your DNA from the floor of the shower. You can have a Weigur Park. Yeah. It was a long day, but we're ready to do this once.

I feel like we're ready to get in there. I feel like you've been a trooper. Yeah, I think so too. Milwaukee was nice. We went to cops. We did go to cops. We did go to cops, okay. I know, you said we did it.

So I got scared. There was four people in cops hats, and there was one lady in the middle. There was two on each side, and one lady with her arms folded. The entire show. We should make it clear who says cops hat is referring to the chain, cops, frozen custard.

They know it? They're Midwesterners. I don't know how prevalent it is. We pointed her up and we're like, that lady doesn't like the show. We ran into them afterwards, and I got verbal confirmation she did not like the show.

And then the other guys went, we loved it. And the old guys weren't the cops hat. I was like, I'll be back later, and I never went back. God bless our patient, Bill Boy's SO is being here as plus ones, not really knowing what they're in for. It's certainly not going to take a good time.

I'm so sorry, but... Honestly, it's on your partners. Don't come! Don't make them come! Don't make your partners come to this shit! It's a food podcast? You're usually not making your partner come here. Don't make them come here.

All the partners are cheering. It's like Sally, Jesse, Raphael. I wanted to talk to you about something that happened to me. There is this... There are the latest episode of Better Call Saul. Yes. There is a vulture write-up, and they were like,

Mitchell was fantastic in the latest episode of Better Call Saul. Michael Mitchell was a little blur with the bottom. He was like, he didn't get to do too much, but he has the range to do more. Sad to see you've been wasted here. Here's the issue. It was Buzz from Home Alone

and Better Call Saul. I was not in the show. So they wrote up this big thing about how I did a great job and referred to other stuff I was in. And it was fucking Buzz. That was what was so confusing, because they clearly were a fan of yours.

They listed your other friends. Yes, that's heard more. It heard enough as is. And then the fact that they were like, we like him and we still think he's Buzz. It was bad. If you both weren't white, that writer's career would be over. We are very white, both of us.

I know I'm a big, bearded, chubby man, but I don't think I look like... I don't think you look like Buzz at all. I think I look like Kevin. You look like Kevin, the hero of Home Alone? Yeah! Have you seen Macaulay Culkin lately? He's not aged into you.

What's he aged into? What's like aged into you? It's a role for him. I look like Joe Pesci. Give me somebody. You could be Pesci. Thank God. Give me anyone else. Anyways, I think it's time to hit this crowd with a little draw.

Oh, boy. Hit it, Emma. Don't be a pig. Let's kick it. Ice. Ice, baby. Ice. Ice, baby.

Ice. Why did I say ice? Why did you say ice? Why did I say ice? I don't know why I said ice. I'm going to say I... Oh, I stop. Well... Short.

Short? It's from a good dropper. Hi, everyone. Here's a silly drop using clips from the silly Boston show Keep Up the Great Work. Yours truly, Chris Finke. Did you know... Thank you, Finke. Did you know we were going to get a drop

from the silly show for this silly show? Was that part of your delay? Wait, he said... No, I didn't know. You didn't know? It was my sheer coincidence. Wow! The silly special. It's a silly special. Well, I love it. You know who else is great, Nick?

Should I not introduce our guest? You got some other shit planned? What's on your little keyboard there? You don't act like you care. I feel like you care what's on my show outline. The end show. He puts end show in the outline. Life is in strike through

and show is bolded. Jesus. We have a fantastic guest with us today. Are you folks ready for our guest? This is how she asked to be credited. A writer and comedian from the Doe Boys episodes Little Caesars 2

and Rockhard Seltzer give it up for Marissa Pinson. Yeah! She brought Fago. Wow, holding Fago aloft. We did a drank or stank of Fago on the road today. At a gas station with a screaming child.

At a gas station with a screaming child that you saw got spanked. I saw the child get spanked in the bathroom stall and I contemplated calling 911. I thought that's going to make us even later for the show. We're already on a pretty tight schedule. I'll just let them work it out. Weigur was waiting in line to spank the child.

I had to tell him like, that's not the deal dude, we got to go. So we got a full cane sugar Fago. We're going to drink at the top of the show. Look at that. I didn't know that there was a difference upon checking the label. I think it's a whopping 72 grams of sugar

in the gas station bottle of Fago. But it's a high fructose corn syrup. So do you guys have a preference for the original red pop versus the corn syrup? Is this one good? Don't say a different flavor. Rock and write.

We don't have it. Guys, we're trying. Who's your favorite dough boy? Not Marin. I mentioned this to Emma, but I'm having so much fun on the tour with these guys. Mitch mentioned earlier that he had a rumbly tummy on the airplane.

You can open that while I tell my story. I am a dough boy's guest, but I'm also a dough boy's fan. It says it is on the cap. I always listen to dough boys when I'm flying because it eases my anxiety. And so, like, when the plane is taking off, I always put in the dough boys podcast

when I'm flying to calm me down. And this time I had a real dough boy with me on the plane. And instead of my anxiety being eased, Mitch is texting me, I'm going to barf. It was a lot like that movie, Red Eye. I said this last night

that it was brown eye, but I wasn't going to say that tonight. The villain wasn't silly in Murphy. It was my tummy with the villain in this one. You know what's pronounced Killian? Killian, Murphy. That's too scary. Yeah, that is too scary. I agree.

Tone it down, Killian. Yikes. He didn't barf though on the airplane. I did not barf. I've been barf free the entire trip. Wow. Applause for not barfing. How low is the bar? What's everyone's barf streak right now? I don't think I've barfed in 2022.

I haven't barfed in years. I haven't barfed in years. And actually prior to that, because I was pregnant, as everyone knows, I like to get dumped in. But... Thank you. Some people like that. It's humiliating.

It's humiliating. But prior to that, I had like a 25-year barf streak. Unbelievable. 25-year barf streak. Yeah, that's really impressive. Congratulations. I feel like some people

will not make it through the show without barf. That's very possible. We did do tequila shots before. We did. We did some tequila shots. We're trying to keep the energy up here. We're having fun. We're having so much fun. It's been a blast.

We drove six hours straight to buddies. Already. Best day of our lives. We had time to shower, just slip into this menu and outfit. What else did you do in your room besides put on the menu and outfit? Because I think you had time to shower. We had 30 minutes in the hotel room.

Tested out the toilet for a moment. Past the test. 80% of the trip is conversation about if Mitch has diarrhea or he's constipated. It's like oscillated back and forth. Right now it's number two. It's two. Option two.

It's number two, baby. I don't know. The first couple days it was not. I don't know what was going on. Give me... Can't stop going over Can't go any day. I'd rather have the diarrhea than the constipation.

Every day of the fucking week. Is that how we're starting the show off? What? That's easily my preference. Easily my preference. I can't stand being stopped up. I get so grumpy. I feel so uncomfortable.

So you're on the toilet just everything coming out with a big smile on your face? No, I don't love it. But I'm saying of those two bad options, one is less bad to me. I'd rather just be going with too much frequency. When was the last time you had a job where you couldn't leave a spot?

Great question. Because that really does affect it. If you were working as a grocer or something, you can't be leaving every 20 minutes with about a little turd. This is maybe it. That's what I was going to say. You count Doe Boyz live.

Which I've got to give you a quarter for is more of a chance you will have to do it. Do you have a higher percentage chance of having diarrhea during a Doe Boyz tour? I've definitely... It's been a little while since I've had a job where I was like, I'm completely stuck here for a while.

I've had jobs where there's like long stretches between breaks, but not like, all the way till lunch. That hasn't happened since I was like, in my early 20s. Here's the thing about Nick. Never went to the bathroom in school. That's true.

He never went once in school. K through 12, never a single Doos at school. Always did it at home. That's insane. Was that your yearbook like special shout out? That's all it said under his name. No Doos? Yes, stay cool and sweet.

Now, I... Photo missing. No, like I just like... I was terrified of being, I don't know, of like being bullied, I guess, if I took a shit at school and also I didn't really have to. Dude, you don't even get...

We got anti-shit gangs in Quincy too, man. You just take a shit in there, dude. Start pushing you around. Wipe it up, buddy. Wipe it up. Wipe it up. Kids are weird in bullies like that. Kids are weird about that. Kids are weird about bathrooms. Mummy was at my school,

so I had a key to a bathroom. Oh, there you go. I'd walk out and like a teacher would be like, what the fuck? Sorry. Anyways, we should get off shit for a moment. Sure. It's not great to open up with 15 minutes worth of shit stuff.

For a food podcast. Yeah. You guys are all y'all. Yeah, you guys are insane. I mean, not only because you're here, which is also a big question. I think Rod Stewart is that little Caesar arena. Rod Stewart.

It was Eric Clapton. Eric Clapton. Who guys could have been at Clapton tonight? People are booing. Clapton's bad now. Wait, is he? Oh, he has bad politics, right? Yeah. He's bad politics, yes.

He's got bad politics. I'll scrap my beers in heaven song parody. I was going to do it later. That's pretty good. Tiger's Game, a lot of options tonight, but you came here to see us, and we appreciate it. Hey, thank you for being here.

It's been a while. It's been a minute, as they say. So my other question of what's wrong with you guys is just that the food in the Midwest is a lot, right? It's a lot. It's unrelenting. And it gets hot. It's hotter here than I expected. It's toasty.

You eat a fucking brick of cheese. It's just too much. It's a lot. No, it's excessive. I don't think this diet would be sustainable for me. But I do, I have enjoyed the food. I wish I had gotten to spend more time in the city before we did this show.

But I am curious, Pinson and Mitchell. Yes. How much time have you spent in Detroit? I've spent in one prior Doe Boys show. And both of those were like in and out affairs. Marissa, have you spent much time here? No, I've never been to Detroit before.

What from what I've seen is a lovely city, but I am a huge fan of Detroit style pizza. The versions of it that have made their way to the West Coast, because I'm a SoCal surfer girl. Hell yeah. I've really enjoyed those. It's my favorite pizza iteration. I've been here quite a few times.

Wow. I've spent some time here like 15, 20 years ago. I was, you would do some rap battles. I worked at an auto plant. Okay. It would be annoying because like my work shifts always got in the way of when I had these rap battles. Sure.

But then sometimes I'd freeze up on stage. It'd be very embarrassing. And then my mom says his name. Who's the guy in it? The guy from Chicago? Who's the guy in it? You mean your life? Who's the guy in your anecdote? What?

The guy in Eight Mile. Who fucks Eminem's mom in Eight Mile? You get no life raps with this. This is all you. Chicago guy. Michael Shannon. There you go. Michael Shannon was fucking my mom.

I said, cut the shit, Shannon. What the hell? Come home from the auto plant. I'm trying to rap that. I'll be railing my mom when I walk in the fucking door. Hey, good for Mrs. Mitchell. Could do a lot worse. Hell yeah.

He said, let me fucking take a turn in there. Oh boy. Just pretend I didn't say the last thing. Jesus. Maybe I should see a therapist. Oh my God. I meant that I would fuck Michael Shannon. No, we know what you meant.

We know what you say you meant, but we also know what you really meant. That's the layered laughter. I heard Mitch's mom on speakerphone on our drive over to the theater. She's very sweet. Lovely woman. Michael Shannon's not texting me back.

He did tell her like I was in the car listening, maybe so she didn't say anything. Naughty. Jesus Christ. I don't know. I don't know. Michael, write a rap so Michael Shannon will come back to me.

So you mentioned Detroit Style Pizza, your favorite type of pizza. I'm not far from you on that because honestly of all of the regional pizza variants I've had in these United States, and I've only had the authentic thing a few times including today,

but I love Detroit Style Pizza. I just think it's so well done. I like that there's been something of some national awareness of it. Obviously, as I mentioned in the intro, some of the national chain attempts have been total misfires. In fact, that Pizza Had Detroit Style

was one of the most disappointing chain restaurant items I've had in some time. I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast or we just got it because we're fat pieces of shit, but we both got it. But there are local places in LA that do a version of Detroit Style Pizza that are quite good.

You stole it from you. It's funny because even like a few years ago people would say Detroit Style Pizza and I had no reference point for it. And then it was like suddenly in one year like every fast food place, little pop-up places in LA, everybody wants to try their stab at a Detroit Style Pizza.

Yeah, it's a very popular... I wonder how people feel about if buddies expanded outside of Detroit area, outside of Michigan, would that be upsetting to people? They shouldn't do it. I mean, would you say they can have it? We can have...

Oh, wow, we got a buddy skeptic in the audience. Oh, boy. Easy, easy, guys. The palace of the palace that motherfucker. Here's the difference with... if you can throw 100 red cups at Weigher and I and we'll never go out to fight someone. We just... Ben Axel, we talked about this was there.

Our friend Ben Axel Rad, the ax man, was present at the malice of the palace. At the palace. He was there, he was in attendance. He threw the cup at Ron Artes. A wild series of events. So, yeah, I do love

the Detroit Style Pizza. I do think that buddies... I don't want to... We should hold off on getting buddies for one second. But I do think that buddies... I think they should stay a local chain because the other chains that have tried to expand nationally and Mitch,

that includes Duncan, which we hit up on the way. And guess what? We had a fucking fantastic Duncan experience. We had a nice Duncan experience. I think Duncan is maybe back because Duncan had some years in the wilderness. Duncan's maybe back because this random one we stopped at in Indiana had a good bagel. It's a good Duncan.

But also there's a theme with the trip where we all are getting food and Mitch says he's not hungry because his stomach is rumbling and then he eats all of our food. Yes. I've eaten like a bunch of times. So Marissa offered... Mitch and Marissa and I each got bagels. I'm also got a bagel.

Marissa offered Mitch half of her bagel. Mitch took it. We had already ordered and he got a little like folded... I got a snack wrap. I thought I was being good. Everyone orders after me. They get bagels. I'm like, hey man, you can't do that to me. But then instead of you getting a bagel,

you're like, I'm good. I don't need anything. Marissa did need anything. Marissa very nicely offered him half of her bagel and Mitch accepted it. And then Mitch was I and my bagel. So I gave Mitch half of my bagel. So Mitch had a whole bagel that he did not order.

Marissa and I each had a half bagel of what we did order. Oh, Kevin McAtlister is up to his old tricks. Can't believe they thought I was buzzed. You don't look like buzz is the thing. There's a buzz kill. Maybe it's just like you have like big buzz energy. You know?

Like not like B-D-E, B-B-E. B by B-B-E. Yeah, big buzz energy. This means like I'm a slob in like fat guy. Also, there was like comments. This was posted on the reddit. The Doughboys reddit. Never go on there. But it was posted and then someone was like,

Mitch can act circles around that guy and downvote to zero. I think he's a pretty good actor. Don't get me wrong, but what the fuck? It may have been buzz. That's my suspicion. Fucking buzz? Buzz was in there, downvoting it.

That motherfucker. Take it up with him. You gotta beat with buzz. All right, anyways. Marissa, I'm curious. So because you're someone who's a vegetarian, you're a vegetarian for some time. And pizza is one thing,

and I certainly found this in 2021 when No Meat Chili, I didn't have any meat for an entire year, is that pizza was one thing that I could enjoy equally. Like there was no drop off in terms of, oh man, I really miss pepperoni and sauces. I was still liking pizza just as much. But what do you opt for as a vegetarian

with your pizza toppings? I have a very firm unwavering stance that cheese pizza is the best pizza and is not made better by any topping. Wow, I agree with this stance. Not made better by any topping, especially vegetables. Because I ordered a vegetable,

I ordered a veggie pizza today thinking I was being a nice person. And then you were like, veggie pizza like sauce. I was like, I did this for you. I did it for you. I would never get it. I'm cheese pizza all the way.

Cheese pizza all the way, baby. That's perfect. I've also learned don't say I like CP because those initials have a different connotation. But I do like cheese pizza. Is this some Comet bullshit? It's a John Podesta thing. Who's that?

He's one of Hillary's assistants. Not in Home Alone. He's a wet bandit. I like it. I'm not going to even ask what it is. Don't try to divine the acronym. You're not eating me either. You're a chicken man.

I'm not eating red meat right now. I'm trying to stay away from red meat as much as possible. You didn't have a burger yesterday. No red meat all you eat. But still plenty of options available. You bite the head off a live chicken in front of everyone here. I don't know if I do that. I don't know if I'd like...

You wouldn't become a geek? I don't think I'd be a geek. I don't think I'd pull the Aussie thing. If Aussie actually ever did that, or that was just an urban legend, I'm not clear. But I don't think I'd do that. You bit a dove's head off, is that the rumor? I think so, yeah.

I don't know if that happened or not. Oh, a bat's head off. Give it a back to Dracula, huh? I don't know. I'll eat a... A piece of poultry versus red meat. Not that it's a massive difference, but... But, I mean, one chicken versus...

I mean, that's like a whole life. That's the thing. That's my calculation. That chicken had like a family and like... We've had these discussions about like... One cow. Yeah, is eating like an order of popcorn shrimp less ethical than eating a burger? Because if I'm eating like 12 shrimps,

those are 12 souls. And if I'm eating one burger, that's like a portion of a soul that can feed 60 people. Yeah. So, what is... It's not like Freddie. They're not going to be in your chest.

You don't collect the souls of the animals you eat. Do you think they feel that way? If you met those animals on the other side, they'd be pissed off, you ate them. Are you having dreams where you like torture shrimp? I don't know. Maybe the shrimp get their revenge. Do you know like how they talk about the silence and space? Yeah.

They talk about the ethical problems about eating red meat. That's what it sounded like in here. Sounded like the vacuum of space. You know your audience, Nick. Come on. You're in Michigan and you're talking about not eating meat to these people. What the fuck is wrong with you? A lot of water involved in beef production.

But I don't have a problem with it. Like if people want to do that, that's fine. I'm just saying like me personally. And that's my rationale. That said... There's no water involved in growing veggies, you fool. No, there is. But it's like the higher up the food chain you go,

the more water that's involved. These are readily available statistics. It's fine though. It's totally fine. I don't shame anyone for their choices. It doesn't matter to me. I'm saying why I do what I do. That's the whole thing. I think a carrot needs more water than a cow.

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So I'm going to Costa Rica with the family. It's going to be a lot of fun. Going to maybe see a monkey. Oh, that's fun. Going to maybe see a bird. Just that. Just a one monkey, one bird. That's it.

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American culture dates to immediately after the Second World War. And this is one of them. 20 locations across Michigan and its own still family on today by the Jacobs family. So we drove in. That's funny, like in New York City, like a guy was grabbing a girl and smooching her and they were taking a picture.

And here they're like, let's put pizza in a big fucking auto tin. An auto tin? I never listen to your intros. I don't like the podcast. I don't listen to it. Today is no exception. Today is no exception. I was forced to because I was offstage.

Right. But they were just like, let's cook it in a tin. Yeah. We had a hubcap. From the auto shop. Hubcaps were in here like two hours ago. Let's make a pizza instead. It's very strange.

But that's what you guys do. I love it. I kind of love it. It's great. They're very resourceful here, you know. So we drove in six hours from Milwaukee this morning. Uh-huh. And I guess what we were talking about...

We did listen to Eminem when we were... I insisted we turn on Eminem as soon as we entered Detroit. That was fun. I wasn't embarrassed if anyone heard us at all. But we played... What did we play? Lose Yourself. We played to Lose Yourself, by the way.

Of course. Yes. Of course. We got it, you know. Here's the thing. We tried to go to the original buddies. We called our friend, Josh Weiner, who's from Detroit, past Doe Boy's guest. And he's like, you got to go to the original buddies.

And so we tried to. But we called ahead while we were close to Detroit and they said there was a 90 minute wait. And we were honestly suspicious that it was because of you all. Was it your fault? Did Doe Boy's fans go to the original buddies today? You ruined it for us. Oh my God.

We didn't get to go. We couldn't go to it, you pieces of shit. Go to the other one. You tried it before. You fuckers. Use a pan from your garage and make a pizza. We tried. We should get credit for trying.

We tried. Yeah. So we ended up going to a location in Livonia, Michigan. Is that a good one? Livonia, shout out. No. Yeah. You're cheering Livonia?

Oh, some people are booing Livonia. Easy guys. Grew up there. All right. All right. One guy is screaming that he grew up there. What? Livonia?

All right. Livonia. Got it. Livonia. We went to the Livonia location. Livonia. Like Lasagna. Livonia.

That's a good way to remember it. Livonia. Uh-oh. Kaylee was our server at the Livonia location. Now he's thinking about Lasagna. Yeah. He's just stuck in a loop. This place was fucking hopping.

Yes. Not only was it original. The original, like we said, was an hour and a half wait and we got that information and we were 33 miles outside of Ann Arbor. No, that's not why I said Ann Arbor. We want to hit up Zingermans. We want to. Yeah.

We're going to go. We're going to go. Maybe get a scoop of fucking Superman ice cream. Oh, I thought that would get a bigger fucking pop. But we couldn't do shit. We've barely been here. We just went to the double, uh, I shouldn't say the hotel name. Yeah.

Double U hotel. Doxtos. Jesus Christ. Seven Doughboys listeners in the elevator. Well, we were staying here too. That 2,500 pound capacity is fucking straining. What floor are you on? Oh, that's funny.

I'm on the same floor. I'll just follow you up. What room are you on? I'll follow you. I'm right near you. That's funny. I'm in the same room too. I'll come in here.

I'll come in. I'll come and I'll come and sit in your room. Yeah. A fun thing about the hotel is that if you open the door to the bathroom, they're, uh, facing like sitting on the toilet, there's a full length mirror. There is. You can watch yourself. Shit.

Or jack off. Or jack off. If a Doughboy spends with us, we're jacking off. Maybe you guys requested that. I don't know. It's bedtime. You should probably pull down your pants. Jack off for a few minutes.

All right. Please don't follow us there for real. Um, Kaley was our server and Kaley was fantastic. He was fantastic. Yeah. What are who cares about time? I'm just going to get sucked off by one of these people. We were told and I don't know if this is true or I don't know if this was urban legend.

We were told that someone in the audience lined up because the seats are general admission. Yes. That someone lined up at 7 30 a.m. raised his hand right there. What a hero. See you at the hotel, buddy. It's about time I get sucked off by someone who looks exactly like me. Fucking into this. Holy shit.

I texted Natalie that someone's been in line since 7 30 a.m. And she replied, OMG, be careful of crazies. Thank you for identifying yourself. We've made a profile of you. Security will be. God bless. Logging those records. That's awesome.

Yeah, you rule. Thank you. Sorry also. He's regretting his decision right now. So it was like it was a it was packed. There were a lot of people there. It was popping. Yeah, there were a ton of family pulling up the parking lot.

Actually, the parking lot was packed and we thought we were going to have to have another like 90 minute wait. That's just how everybody's is at 5 p.m. There's just a 90 minute wait all over the city at four. What time was it? 4 p.m. Was it 4 or 3 p.m. No, it was like 5. We're out there by 6.

It was the dinner hour. It was closer to dinner. It's closer to dinner. But like this is a day. It was packed. The notion of the pizza parlor is like kind of like a bygone era, right? The pizza parlors have all been shut down and turned into kiosks. They're all delivery or takeout focused.

So like when you see a place that's like, hey, this is a parlor. You come here and you sit down and you're served pizza and that there's lots of people taking out obviously. But lots of people there just like dining in as it's like, this is kind of great. I wish there's more of this. I'm used to parlor on my phone as an app, but in real life, you're booing me. They think you're serious. The Redditors think you're serious. Are you mad?

I'm making fun of parlor. I'll see you guys on there. Is there a Little Caesars in the Little Caesars stadium? There's got to be. Is that the exclusive pizza provider? Got to be, yeah. All right, relax. Take it easy.

Is sometimes there's like a Little Caesar mascot running around? No. No, you fucking idiot. Oh, sorry. Got one thing fucking wrong and they turned on me. He's a cute little guy, isn't he? The Little Caesar's mascot? The Little Caesar's mascot.

Yeah, he's super cute. Harris famously tweeted about how he has chest hair, which is funny. He has a few, like three long curly chest hairs. If you took away his robe and put him in like a flannel, he does look like a Doughboy's face. That's fair. Been waiting in mines at 6 a.m. Yeah. Upset we made some factual error regarding a chain we were at for the first time.

We were at a, we went to Lavonia location. Kaylee was our server as I mentioned before. Kaylee did a great job. Kaylee was very smiley. It seemed like she was having a blast work in there. It seemed like she was enjoying serving the patrons. Yes. She was doing, and or she was putting on a great performance, putting on a brave face,

but she was a delightful server. Well, the most disdain-steamed restaurant critics in America were seated at her table, of course. She was great. She was awesome. She guided us through the menu. Oh, we got a recommendation. Are you not going to get into what we got, but we got a recommendation for the ministrone soup. We did.

This was via Josh Weiner. He said we should get the ministrone and then she helped us out with the ministrone. She brought us one bowl and four little cups for dividing. How about that? Four little cups. Four cups. Four spoons. Above and beyond.

Is that the light? Oh, that's AC. Yeah. That's what that is. No audience reactions to loud AC. Yeah. We split up the soup. They saw a soaked in flop sweat.

They're like, cool these guys down. The guy working the AC is like, I'll try to cool them down. I've never seen flopping like this in a long time and I attend piston skates. There was a kid in the restaurant. He looked like he was three and he was sitting just him and his dad. And the kid was screaming like, and then the dad would put a bite of food in his mouth. And then he would just like, and then as soon as the food was gone, he would go over and over again.

It happened like 50 times. After being on tour with Mitch for like over three days, I really relate to that dad. Every few hours. My bagel, my cops, my grilled cheese. I liked how hopping it was in there. Did it make you feel like a kid again to be back there? Yeah. A lot of families.

A lot of families. In fact, on the way out, fuck, I left it in my damn jeans. I dressed in this damn fucking Minions uniform and I left my dumb, dumb in my jeans. Wise, I left my dumb, dumb in my jeans. I'm sorry. Oh, that's really disappointing. I'm sorry, Mitch. I bet if everybody imagines really hard, we can pretend you have a dumb, dumb in your

hand. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yummy. Yum, yum. Yum, yum, yum. Uh-oh.

Oh boy. Oh, that's imagining Michael Shannon. That's when I'm in a straight jacket in like 30 years. I'm going to be like, I left my dumb, dumb in my jeans. That's right. Yes, Mr. Mitchell. You work there? Yeah.

I got to have a career pivot after this. This will not last. No. No. It's unsustainable. I thought the Minestrone was quite good. I was like, I would honestly, I was kind of dazzled by that Minestrone. Wow.

My expectations were pretty low because I was just like, oh, whatever, soup at a pizza place, but that's a good Minestrone soup. You know what had a box surrounded on the menu, which that's, that leads you to a superstar when you're looking at a menu. If you see a box, man, we were not led astray by that box. No, not at all. That box had a lot of info on it. Minestrone, you know, Italians, I could take or leave, but the Minestrone soup, this was

a thick soup. Very thick. That's our Frank Carlisle would say. High viscosity. It had ass, as Carlisle would say. It's true. It kind of, yeah, it felt like it had some, I don't know if it had a little bit of cream in it or just a lot of cheese, but it kind of almost had like a.

Yeah. The fluid part of the soup was. Jesus. The fluid part. The fluid part. Yeah. Not the chunk, the fluid. The fluid was quite creamy.

I don't know if maybe it was Parmesan mixed in. Could have been that, yeah. Probably my guess, but it was delicious. Yeah. Quality soup. It was really good. I thought he was joking when he suggested it, but it was very, very good. Minestrone soup was good.

And they also, they put, yeah, it has a box that is that, that high. It must be one of their famous things. I don't know. We got a couple of, what happened? What was that? I heard a bat, I believe. Okay. Oh, here's Ozzy.

He's hungry. Look out. We got a couple of fried apps. Okay. It's someone's radio. We got a couple of fried apps. We got the dough boys. They're on stage.

That guy's just keeping his eye on you. We're talking about the CP earlier. The buddy's famous tenders and the veggie sampler were the two fried apps we got. And you know, it's, I thought they were quality tendies. The issue with the, the, and they were, they were decently seasoned, a good ranch. You got it with them. The issue with the veggie samplers, you had the fresh mushrooms, cauliflower and zucchini. And you kind of had like a, a, a baby bear, a papa bear and mama bear situation in terms

of fry to veggie ratio, because the cauliflower was just too bulky and the mushrooms were a little too, a little too tiny. And that zucchini was, was just right. I would agree. It's like a mama bear, baby bear, papa bear situation. Yeah. Yeah. Compared to any nursery rhyme, I guess it would be the three bears.

Three bears. Yeah. I think so. But in all seriousness, that cauliflower was way too large. Way too big. Yeah. It was the size of a pickle ball. Yeah.

It was, it was gigantic. It didn't, it didn't work. But I, yeah, the zucchini was nice. I thought the mushrooms were okay too. The breading was great. Was it the same breading on the chickie? It tasted like the same breading, but I'm not sure. I really liked that breading.

It was good breading, quality breading. Quality breading. Does anyone care about these apps or are you like, we don't. Oh, you do. Okay. Hard to say. I can't tell. I can't tell what the deal is.

Wine is a weird man. And he also, he also, he also was like demanding. We went, we were like, we're like tough. It's, we're tight on time. We're like, do we have to go to the original? And he's like, yeah, yeah, you do. And we're like, we don't think we're going to make it. He's like, you got to go to it.

And so we were like, we can't fucking go to it. We can't go to the original. But is it a thing like pizzeria or gene? Well, you don't know this, but is it like a thing? Like, is the original much better than the other locations? Oh, fuck. We fucked up. It's a chain restaurant podcast.

It's your fault. We went to a chain outlet. It's, it's, yeah, it's your fault. It's your fault we couldn't go. Well, I guess we have to go back tomorrow morning. I don't know. We need more. We got a, we got a Greek salad.

And I thought that was a, you know, a solid salad. It's just a, just romaine, feta, calamot olives. You know, it's in a Greek salad. Why? I think garlic parmesan dressing. Undressed. A little underdressed. Yeah.

A little underdressed. A little underdressed. Yeah. It was a little underdressed. A little underdressed. Some more dressing. The, the salad. Oh God.

What was it? I don't know. It was, it was underdressed. That's okay for the ladies. Yeah. Not for my salad. That's how, that's how Mitch likes his. Went ladies.

But not my salad. Not his salad. Yes. And the waitress was like, please leave. A little underdressed. A little too underdressed. I could have used some more dressing, but I do think. I prefer a soggy salad, though.

I agree. So I am. You enjoy a sauger? I do enjoy a sauger. I think that you have to taste the dressing. The only, Marissa and I licked, we put our finger in the bowl. We did the finger test. And tasted it.

Because we were suspicious if it was dressed. Yeah. And you could, and you could only taste it that way by just putting your finger in the bowl. Yeah. So Mitch and I took turns sliding our filthy fingers off the side, inside of the salad bowl. I saw them throwing it in the dumpster when we left.

And you could tell that it was dressed, but not very happy. Yeah. Everything, the portion was great. Served with tongs. I mean, what, you can't complain. Come on. A medium salad was for three to five people. And we had four of us, including Emma.

And it was, it was more than enough salad. I was like, this is the medium. Also, first greens of the trip. The first greens of the trip happened in Michigan. Very exciting. Congratulations. You have one up on Wisconsin. Wisconsin, we could not find greens at all.

Yeah. Yeah. We asked her something like, you ain't from around here, are you? Also, by the way, when we were leaving Wisconsin, there was a big sign that said, Wisconsin loves President Trump. It was, Mitch, it wasn't one. It was three distinct billboards that all said some version of Wisconsin loves President Trump with a version, with a picture of President Trump.

And I said, where's the Doe Boys loves President Trump? We're crying from out the tour. Come on. It, yeah, I thought, but a quality salad. Again, you'd like the soup. I'm just like, my, my. There's a billboard in 2022 that Wisconsin still loves President Trump. They're open.

He comes back. Like you can put up a billboard. This is like, I love President Ford. Hey, there you go. Michigan. There you go. Mitch, you did it. I did it.

You inadvertently pandered. Wow. Wow. Ford. Like the. I love Ford. President Ford. God bless him.

Let me tell you, those automobiles run like no other. And the thing about President Ford is, yeah, he had a short presidency, but he showed magnanimity after Watergate, which is what the nation need, but more than that. More than anything. Yes. That's right. This is what we should be saying to get reactions from you. Hell, I love Ford.

He's fucking great. I think he's the hottest president. Hot as shit. I bet he had a hog like a hammer. Fucking. They said the muffler test is that Ford could stick his thing in there. And if he could get it in. The muffler was too small, baby.

Said LBJ after seeing Ford's hog changed the nickname for his hog from jumbo to not as big as Ford's. It's a long nickname. It was. It was a little awkward, but, you know, he just felt inferior. My first car, Ford Escort. Wow. My grandma.

My grandma. My grandma. My grandma. My grandma. My grandma. Wow. My grandma's car. It was my sister's car and I got to drive it around.

I was in it the day it died on the road. I had a, I had my first car was a Chevy Blazer. Is that the first thing you've been in the day it died? Jesus Christ. Good God. She asked if that's the first thing I've been in the day it died. What a grisly question. Maybe he was with a woman.

Or someone who was about to die. Oh, okay. Never fuck someone the day they died. Okay. Well, that's a fair question. It was a fair question. You are correct. But you never know.

There could be some make-a-wishes brewing. Oopsie. Ford. This is. Everybody meet us back at the W for some drinks after this bad boy. First rounds on us at the W. That's right. And they do not give you a free cookie.

At the hotel we are staying at. Yes, there might be other hotels that give free cookies. Yes, certainly not ours. That's right. But the hotel we are at does not give you a free cookie. It's the W. That's right. Gerald Ford actually born in Omaha, Nebraska.

What the fuck? Oh my God. What was this shit? He was raised in Grand Rapids but he was born in Omaha. All right. Okay. He gets a pass. We're back on his side.

Let's talk about the pizzas because that's the whole reason this place endures. That's the whole reason this place is beloved. That's the whole reason Detroit style pizza exists because this place was the progenitor of it. The pioneer of it. And the three pies we got. We got the four-piece square pies. And we, that's what we got. Look.

We got plain cheese. We got Eastern Market Veggie and we got spicy Italian. So the plain cheese for people who aren't familiar with it is just the Wisconsin brick cheese and it gets that little dollop of red sauce on there which is a signature of the style. We also got the Eastern Market Veggie which is the brick cheese, onions, green peppers, mushrooms, and sliced tomatoes. Now those tomatoes were like a whole like beef steak tomato and they just gave you a big slice that covered the whole slice of the pizza.

I was kind of like amazed by how much tomato just encompassed the entire surface area of it. Yeah, Nick was freaking out when he saw this tomato. I was freaking out a little bit. And then we also, the spicy Italian which is the Motor City cheese blend, a little different. And Italian sausage, roasted red peppers, red onions, garlic, tomato basil sauce, and Buddy's Sicilian spice blend. Mitch, let's start with the spicy Italian. You're the one who had that.

What did you think of that, that spicy Italian? I liked it quite a bit. Yeah. Emma also gave it a thumbs up. At one point I thought it was my favorite of the bunch. Look, I'm not going to try to pander to this crowd. Uh-huh. I'm not going to try to pander to them.

But our whole order was kind of like that Piston's Bad Boys team likes. That's right. That cheese pizza was like Bill Lambier. Solid as they come. That spicy Italian, well that was Dennis Rodman. There you go. A little bit of spiciness. You don't know which way it's going to go, but mm-mm.

Carmen Electra approved. The fried cauliflower's were kind of Isaiah Thomas. No one really liked them that much. Bit of an asshole, but we like them still. It was fine. He added to the meal. I would say that veggie pizza was a John Sally. What would you say?

Benny the microwave Johnson, maybe? Yes. One of the all-time nicknames. Instant offense. Denny Ainge gave him that nickname. How about that? I love it. Ainge, man.

Yeah. So the- That was a small boo for liking Ainge. We never drank the Fago. Take a sip. It actually is truly better. Is it better? It is better.

It's better than the can one, I think. It tastes better. Oh, wow. Can I hit that? That's silky. All right. We've been swapping a lot of spit on this trip, I gotta say. Fago original red pop.

This is a character that has naturally and artificially flavored strawberry. 100% cane sugar. Here we go. That's delightful. That's great. That's really, really good. Love the fizz on that. That's really good.

Boy, that goes down smooth. All right, relax. Like you on Michael Shannon. Yeah. The pizzas were fucking great. I thought they were really good. I love this style of pizza. As you mentioned earlier, Marissa, and I agree with you.

I concurred. I just think those corners are so yummy. I love the- It's all about the corners. Come on. Here's the magic of Detroit style pizza. A lot of times on pizza, the crust is like- Okay, well, I got-

I was a kid, I wouldn't even fucking eat the crust. I'd leave the crust like the crust of bread. Which I eat now, too, these days. But as a kid, I didn't eat the crust of bread, I didn't want to eat the crust of pizzas. Leave the crust. Sounds like you're sheets in middle school. Nah, I wouldn't bust in my own sheets.

My mom was a nurse. She'd know what was up. Where'd you bust? I'd find a spot. Oh, my God. Where? You know. Oh, God.

Chipped the turtle, just floating and fucking- Jesus Christ. Preserved. It doesn't matter with you. So did your mom- She was a nurse and she changed your bed with like the gloves on, basically. Just a frozen sheet.

No, you're something disposable. I learned that at a young age. You hide the evidence. Look, we were talking about pizza. Weigar's mom came to the show last night, by the way. I know. His mom and dad were at the show last night. It's my mom's birthday today, HPD mom.

Happy birthday, Carrie Weigar. Weigar's parents are so normal. It's like, it's eerie. And I haven't met your brother, Nate, but the family aside from Nick is like, it's like bone-chilling how normal they are when you see the son that they made. My brother, Nate, is the alpha Weigar.

So I think what happened is that all of their- I've met rules. He's so much fun. All of their charisma and conviviality and ability to connect with people on a human level got channeled into the first child. What happened to your dad's sperm? Did your mom get pregnant after he was on a jet ski or something?

And it got all scrambled up and jostled? His dad came into a pinball machine. He was like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Yeah, I don't know what's going on, man. Something ain't right. It didn't work with a lot of dangerous chemicals. Maybe that's a ball. The-

Every day. Here's the thing. What did we create, George? We have to put an end to it. I fancy myself a normal man. I'm gonna say this. This is my point. The crust in Detroit-style pizza is a highlight.

It's so fucking good. It's oftentimes like the best part. And that's the magic of it. Because instead of it being like the throwaway or sort of being like, okay, here's the little stump of the pizza and maybe I've got some ranch to dip it in to give it some life or whatever. Or maybe it's like stuffed with cheese.

I don't fucking know. Some gimmick to make it edible. It's just like, no, this is an absolute treat. When I get in my final bites of this pizza are gonna be wonderful. I take a bowl of loops all crust. Give me that crust. Yeah.

That's fantastic. Hold on. I like the crust. You want all crust? Yes. You're on board with that? Here's what we talked about. I wish-

We've had jets as well. We have had jets last time. And we actually did a buddies versus jets on stage last time we were here. I don't know if you remember a man tried to come on stage during the show. Is that man here tonight? Is he here?

He's here. It's you? Oh, all right. It's the 7 a.m. guy. I need prime position to get myself back on stage. This time I'll do it right. We had a guy in the audience last night who was a drunk question asker and he was good.

It's the only time it ever worked out. He was great. Yeah, you'll hear him. He's great. Is the guy who came up on stage not here? Well, he's not gonna announce it, I guess. No, why would he? He might be here.

When we went to- We went to National Coney Island. A fake mustache. I don't see him anywhere in the crowd. This was back in January of 2020. So not long before the shit went down. This was one of our final live shows. January of 2020.

Some of your last outings was a Doe Boys live show. Yes. The In Monkey Pox lockdown, you freaks. Our buddy Carl was with us, of course, and we did our segment the best, just the best. We did our segment where we compared Buddies vs. Jets. Buddies and the Jets.

Buddies and the Jets. Both of you, both you and Carl preferred Jets. I actually preferred Buddies. Although I don't remember Jets specifically, but I did have a fandom for Buddies at that time. Wow. And here revisiting, I was like, this is fucking great. I remember really enjoying this,

and I'm really having a good time having it not in a box that's been sitting for an hour waiting for us to get to our segment after a fork rating, but just served to us hot and fresh. That was fantastic. Detroit Style Pizza really benefits from being a pipe and hot. Yes. Because the oil and that crust,

something happens as it cools down, gets a little bit more hard, a little more solidified, congealed. Piping hot. I mean, you can't compare. I agree with that. The plain cheese was the winner for me. I just think all the veggies on the Eastern Market veggie,

it was just too much. It was just too much going on. I don't need those big tomato slices on there. It was umka pachka. Get it out of there. Wow. Simplify your pie concept, because I was just getting a big bite of tomato

that was kind of coming off and was super wet. But yeah, veggies are so wet when it comes to veggie, because the salad was so good. I think I might be a raw dog. Because all those little bell peppers and tomatoes, I say no need to cook them, toss them in the salad. There you go. Let's have a good time.

Better context. I'm used to things wet. Hashtag raw dog. I'm used to things wet. I've been soaking wet since we've gotten here, whether it was because I had to shit my pants or the humidity. No.

I actually liked that. I liked the vegetarian pizza. It was probably my third favorite of the bunch. The cheese was number one for me, why? I also thought it was good, but the cheese was the winner. Why? It's like ranking the bad boys. I'm looking at this list.

Detroit Pistons, the five baddest boys of the bad boys era. They rank the bad boys? I mean, you know. I'm jostling my ear. Sorry. Probably in terms of importance. Is it in terms of importance to the roster? Because if so, Isaiah Thomas has to be number one.

Or is it in terms of how bad they were? In which case, I think probably it's got to be Rodman or Lambeer. Lambeer was number one. Yeah. Okay. That's like a bad boy sort of thing. Which one of you guys do you think is badder? Who's the baddest doe boy?

You know the answer to this. Hold on. Let me get that thing out of my ear. It's me. What's the baddest thing you've ever done? I don't know. The show? Specifically this one.

What? No peeking. No peeking. That was pretty bad. I never peeked. She said that. And it's weird she said it. She still says it.

I never peeked on anyone. We got a few desserts before we got out of there. The Cream Puff Sunday and the Werner's Float. The Cream Puff Sunday is billed as the legendary dessert. Cream Puff Shell filled with Hudsonville vanilla ice cream was very nice ice cream. Let me tell you this was like Ben Wallace and receipt Wallace. There you go. Sanders Hot Fudge and whipped cream.

It started with Ben Wallace. People like Ben Wallace. Did you play with Clapton tonight? Why do people mad about him? Oh, wait. Yeah, I know he's a hollow failure. People like Ben Wallace. I need to stop talking to the audience.

You wanted a bigger pop for your panda. That's what it is. Yeah, no shit. People weren't on that. People like Ben Wallace. Yeah, they should be cheering it on their feet. I thought the desserts were good. I certainly probably like the Werner's Float more.

I just like that. That concept is just a little cleaner for me. You have been craving a float also. I had been craving a float. I had floats on the brain. And I think part of the other. You said to one of the children they all float down here. You're not at the sore clown.

I... This town is in love with Werner's. I remember when I was... Good Werner's. ...filming the sci-fi smash hit, The Tomorrow War. I've talked Jurassic Park tonight, Tomorrow War Alien, you know. The classics.

Sam Richardson got Werner's delivered to Atlanta. He loved Werner's. It's very good. It's good. Why isn't it ale? Why isn't it ginger ale? It's ginger drink, right? It's good for you.

But it seems like... I don't know if it's the first one or what the deal is. But let me tell you, it made for a great float. That float was... It was a good float. It was fantastic. By the way, I'd encourage you not to ask open-ended questions to the audience. I'm just trying to get them involved.

You can ask them at the hotel later. There you go. Ginger drink. It's a ginger drink. I'd never had a ginger ale float before. I'd never had one. And I'm a float freak. Yes, I've talked about this on the podcast,

which I believe a Boston cooler, which actually originates in Detroit, was something that my mom would give me as a child. When I was sick, I think. I don't know. Or just when I was at wanted one. When you ran out of bubble juice chop chip with milk. And I always thought it was a Boston.

I thought it was from Boston, but it's from Detroit. It's very, very good. You guys love your beverages here. This is Motor City. This is Beverage City. It's Beverage Town. My God. I've had probably now like one and a half Fagos today,

and I feel like I can feel the veins going through my arm to my fingers. I've only had Fago and tequila and coffee, and now I'm just remembering and Coke at the restaurant and no water. Do you guys drink water? No water today. No. This has been a water free day. Boo water.

That's right. I got my refill of a water bottle here. Yeah. It's full, but I'll drink it at some point. I thought the, here's the thing. We had cream puffs from the Wisconsin State Fair yesterday, and I, I hate to tell you, but the cream puffs here just paled in comparison.

So I think that was part of why that dessert underperformed. So was that a buddy? Yes. It's yes. Yeah. But, but I thought that float was nice. And also this is the pizza part. The fudge was very good.

The fudge was great. The fudge and the ice cream was really, was really good. Yeah. Just the cream puff itself. Well, we should get to our final thoughts on Buddy's Pizza. So Marissa, you know how this works. We'll go around. We'll give her a closing argument if you will.

Rate this chain from zero to five forks. Buddy's Pizza, your thoughts, your fork score. Wow. Well, as I've mentioned, you know, I love Detroit style pizza. I don't think vegetables should be on any pie. Considering their finest pizza offering was cheese, which was interestingly off menu. We had to build our own.

I was surprised there wasn't just like a classic straight up cheese on the main, the main menu. Right. That kind of threw me off. I thought, are we going off book here? Are we going astray? We going down a dark and mysterious road. But when we mentioned it to Kayla, she didn't seem scared for us or,

you know, nervous or we just said she's pizza and she not. And she said, she said, okay. Yeah. Okay. And what came was, you know, a fantastic solid, exactly what you wanted Detroit style pizza, the crust, the core. I love the four slice because everybody gets a corner. You don't have to fight over the corners.

Love it. There was a little bit of back and forth that we've made a mistake not getting an eight, six slice. I thought we should have gotten an eight. I didn't know if people would be mad if we didn't get a six slice. Yeah. And no, I think four is the way to go because everyone can get a corner. The appetizers were great.

Minestrone knocked out of the park. For me, four and a half forks. Wow. Very good score. It was great. It was great. Really good. I was desperately Googling bad boys that I hadn't mentioned already.

And I gave up and I thought, I'm not going to pander to this crowd. I'll be real with them. Did you say Joe Dumars yet? Joe Dumars. Buddy's pizza is exactly like Joe Dumars. Look, how do I say this? I got really tired for a second there. Hold on.

Let me think this out. I'm going to tell Mitch in the car. I said, don't talk about how tired you are. People don't like to hear that at a show. I'm tired though. And we're fucking going to bring it. All right. I'm going to tell you the fucking truth here.

People love deep dish Chicago pizza. I can fuck the fuck off. Wow. Wow. I'm sick of Chicago shit. We're the second city. New York. We're the second city.

Shut the fuck up. It's too deep. It's too deep. It's too deep. Pizza's too deep. Something Mitch's girlfriends have never said. Jeez. Ugh, true.

Look, Chicago gets a lot of credit. That really threw me. Because I was like going through my head like one, two, yep, never happens. I think this minion look is going to work out for me. Chicago gets all the, and they're like, we actually, we got pan pizzas too. And it's like, I don't care. I don't care about pan pizzas. One of the best pizzas around is the Detroit pan style pizza.

They do it better than a lot of people. Look, it's going to get run into the ground. It's already happening. For sure. It's getting overused. But it is one of the best pizzas in the country. And Buddy's the originator of it. And I got to say this about our, we got the cheese pizza, which said you could pick the

sauces and the cheese on the side. Right. And one of the cheeses was a Wisconsin brick. That's right. Which I will be leaving in the toilet at this theater tonight. At the majestic theater. It's a sign of a good meal likes. It's a sign of a great meal.

Yes. No one does it like here. No people are freaky enough to fucking cook a pizza in a fucking pan that was in a car, like an auto lot. Yeah. That's what it takes. These fucking demented fucks made a new pizza and it's great. I wish it was a little bit more sauce.

I wish you could spread the sauce around a little bit. I love it. And I, I, I, I, I, how can I go below four fours? I'll go four. Four fours. Very good score. You know, my guess is, my guess is that Jets would be maybe a five fork or I don't know. I don't know.

Wow. So it falls to me to determine whether Buddy's pizza joins the Hall of the Golden Play Club. Once again, I am in the role of the gatekeeper. Oh boy. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. This is not a role I shrug off. It's nine 18. What should I set my alarm?

Heavy head. Mitch is used to that. It's the silly show. You motherfucker. Hey, you called it, man. You asked for it. You wanted to get silly. Go on wise.

Go on gatekeeper. As the gatekeeper, I, I am going to say this. I really, really enjoyed the food here and that includes the items that weren't pizza. Like it's like, I had, you have no expectations for the other stuff at a pizza place. You hope the wings are at least solid, but you don't, you don't think like there's going to be a good veggie sampler, which there was or good soup or really good salad. How many pizza places have an actual decent salad? How many places?

It's just some fucking, you know, thrown together. Yeah. Whatever we've got, we've got a bag of iceberg lettuce and then whatever veggies we're using to toppings, you know, and there was some Italian dressing. No, this was a well-composed, well-prepared salad. I don't mean to interject, but the place was packed. It was packed. And the vibe was fun.

And the vibe was fun. But here's the thing. And you've, you've both already made this point. Buddies created Detroit style pizza. And this is like an essential part of the pizza ecosystem. This is a, this is, this is one of the, the, the best versions of pizza. This is one of the best pizza varietals around. And I think for that reason, I'm surprised to be the only person doing this, but I go

five forks for buddies pizza. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Front row is standing up.

Wow. They're, they're just excited because the end of the show is approaching. They're getting up to leave. Yeah. I really enjoyed buddies. That fired me up. Uh-oh. Look out.

Change my score. Why? Nick, it is a cornerstone. Would I give yeast anything below five forks or flour or water? No. I have to change to five forks, wives. It's a cornerstone of pizza. You can give yeast five forks.

It's pretty good. As good. Wow. Five forks. Five, five, two five forkers, one four and a half forks. That means welcome to the Colton Blight Club. Detroit's pizza. Detroit, Detroit's own buddies pizza.

Marissa is standing in her score. I'm standing firm four and a half. I admire that. That salad was underdressed. I respect that. No, it was fantastic. Mitch, when someone is just exceptionally good at what they do, it could be a waiter, a chef, a doctor, a podcaster.

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That's Z-O-C-D-O-C dot com slash DOBOYS. ZocDoc dot com slash DOBOYS. ZocDoc dot com slash DOBOYS. Well, we're going to be heading back to the hotel when we're done with this show, but there was a little bit of an issue checking in. That's right. A big issue checking in. There was a big issue, which is that I checked in, and I'm sorry, I checked in.

The hotels were under my name, but it added everyone else's names. But then you get there, and they're confused. They're like, we have you all staying in one room under my name. They were saying, I was like, it's Mike Mitchell, and they were like, okay, so you and Nick Weiger in a room together? I was like, no. No, actually, Mitch said I would be okay with it, but Nick won't be happy. That is true. I did say that to the lady.

Wait, I have you and Nick Weiger and Darth Come from the subreddit all in a room together. I see your load is bigger than mine. We said that before. It feels like we've said the exact same shit. Who cares? Who cares? So yeah, it was a whole thing, and they ended up like,

I had to call the hotel, and I was on the phone with the front desk, and they're like, what's your name? I was like, Nick Weiger's like, what's the name on the credit card? Nicholas Weiger's like, okay, what's your full legal name? And... I replied, well, my full legal name is Nicholas Frank Weiger. And sometimes I go by Frank, which means it's time to review the Week in Hot Dog News

in another edition of Let Me Be Frank. Hot Dog Simmer in the City Greater mile grill gettin' greasy and gritty Toast bun, don't it look pretty Suckin' on a dog like you're suckin' on a titty Pork and beef, sausages and longbread Rollin' on a rolling grill, mustard and relish One bite, it's a different world

Swap dog bites with a girl Munch on, munch on and chop all night Despite the parts, it'll be alright, that taste When the casing has snapped Later that day, you'll for sure have to nap As it simmers in the city Like you're suckin' on a titty You ain't nothin' but a hot dog

Cryin' all the time You ain't nothin' but a hot dog Cryin' all the time You ain't never been a burger And you ain't no lunch of mine Well, they said you were sandwich Well, that was just a lie They said you were sandwich

Well, that was just a lie Just a bun around a wiener So you sure don't qualify Hi, my name is Hi, my name is Hi, my name is Hi, my name is Frank

Hi, my name is Hi, my name is Hi, my name is Frank Frank Morning Tim Morning now, what are we cooking today? Tim, today I thought we'd grill up a hot dog

And what kind of grill are we using Al? Well, this is a Binford Charmaster 500 Al, we had a mans grill We need more power I don't think so Tim And what toppings you got for that hot dog? Some mustard, onions, relish Al, what we need is more sour

Crout Go fuck yourself Tim Tim, the school just called Oh my god, Jill, what is it? Our son Mark is a goth Okay So Those listening

Weiger put a belt around his neck as a tie And when you put the belt around his neck I thought a whole different show was about to start So what? I thought you were going to like, you know No, I got it, yeah, I figured it out This isn't his jack and belt Much tighter than that belt

That's a different belt You actually should use a neck tie, doesn't leave a mark Okay, so we're Mitch is going to Google hot dogs And I am going to use my preferred search engine Microsoft Bing To find out the latest in hot dog news Mitch, what do you got there?

Alright, I've Googled hot dog I put it in Google would like to use my current location Okay, so that might change things up a little bit We're hitting the news tab and here we are Here we go Okay, first thing up We tried a Costco hot dog for the first time

It was an absolute winner We got the fucking get with the times, insider Hey, you know what? I'm not going to be a gatekeeper in this regard If someone's a latecomer to the Costco hot dog Welcome to the family Alright We see that with metal a lot

If someone's just getting into Metallica Because of Stranger Things You know what? Enjoy Master of Puppets I hope you're having fun We complained about this in the ride today Yeah, I'm talking about you specifically No, I wasn't, I was thinking more generally

Al Roker learns the history Behind Detroit's iconic Coney hot dogs Oh, that's fun That's kind of fun That is fun I've just looked for more news Here's one I see from Microsoft Bing Okay

This is from MSN.com Royals nearly got mustard on them And dug out after a hot dog contestant wiped out This is breaking news This happened two hours ago Wow, breaking chews Breaking chews The trouble could be traced back to the route

This hot dog race contestant chose Friday night at Kaufman Stadium A person in the mustard costume Tried to ride the rail to the finish line Until he or she began to flounder By the photographers Mustard veered off course And seemed to be headed for the stairs

To the Royals dug out It was, a Royals player said Almost really bad Harrowing Wow Here's one from Tasting Table What makes the Detroit Coney hot dog so unique There's a lot of Coney love here

People love those Coney dogs Ooh, likes How to make hot dog sliders It's a little hot dog sliders That's fun There's this many Those are mini-weeners, right? Cocktail-weeners

Yeah Here, here's one What the fuck It's a silly show Silly show A lady-based joke about it It's just you getting roasted And grabbing a small dick

What the hell Here's one And Marissa, I'm curious your thoughts on this Because as someone who Like doesn't eat meat First off, do you eat a veggie hot dog? Yeah, I like all the bad fake meats That will probably kill you faster than meat will

Right I like all of those Impossible, beyond Yeah, all of the fake meat I really like Is there like life houses? One or lighthouse? Yeah, whatever is at the grocery store

I'll fry it up, I'll eat it It's like soy, poison And I love it I've had some success Although some of them are a little iffy But I think if you saute If you get a little Christmas on them And then you just like load them up with toppings

And that's what this ties in to This is from Life Hacker Your next hot dog deserves a Bon Me treatment Ketchup and mustard can take a height Pickle some carrots and daikon instead Would you fuck with a Bon Me style hot dog? I think I'd try it You know, Bon Me sandwiches

They always come with cilantro And I have that thing where cilantro tastes like soap Yeah, that's tough Which is really, really sad That's tough Yeah, it's the saddest thing about my life I think we found something That would maybe explain the show here

Okay Ice cream, hot dogs, and other Ultra-processed foods linked to mental decline Here's another one, this looks interesting I do kind of want to look at this It's about Chicago, but relax Hot dog flavored soft serve Unleashed on unsuspecting Chicago

Chicago ones From Eater Chicago Wow The museum of ice cream opened with a Speakeasy style cafe in its notorious Sprinkle Pool I don't know what the fuck that means A themed audience solution to that

Rockets in the social media I'm trying to find out if there was just Hot dog flavored ice cream This article is too fucking long It's just too long Mitch, I got one This is from Eater LA And this is from our friend and past guest

Farley Elliott Oh, Farley LA legend, Pink's Hot Dogs Is giving away free chili dogs all weekend Meaning this weekend Fuck Wow We gotta get back

Red-eye flight Here's, here Friday, August 5th through Sunday, August 7th Coincidentally lining up exactly with The Doughboys tour dates I think they knew we were out of the city I think economically they couldn't have Afforded to do it if you two weren't out

So there is, and there is a hot dog Flavored ice cream in Chicago Sounds disgusting Here's my issue I kept coming up with things about Dogs that were hot Like they were like Japan is putting fans on hot dogs

And cats Yeah And a blistering hot singer The pilot dog from the Cuphead DLC Is really hot It's very, she's got like an aviator uniform Kind of Amelia Earhart But with like, you know

Long dog ears like hair You've been attracted to an animal Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about Just double-checking I gave you an out and, okay The dog from Frasier got a DUI Still alive Well, child actors, you know

It always happens I'm surprised that Cuphead DLC boss Hasn't taken off in the fan art community It's a matter of time, I'm sure Alright, we should get So grumpy Let's get one more, let's get one more Headline here

And Mitch, if you don't have one I mean, there's the Brock's thing About how there's hot dog flavor to Candy corn, but that's not fun Yeah That's nasty Here's one, this is a follow-up On the earlier headline

Cleveland Guardian's investigation Why Mustard has gone winless this season In the hot dog race at Progressive Field We surely had our fair share of heartbreak With the professional Cleveland sports Over the years The shot that drive the fumble Has ended the Mustard

The beloved Guardian's racing hot dog Mustard has had such a bad slumping season It makes the winless 2017 Browns Look like a cakewalk Things have gotten so bad for Mustard He's not won one race Of his last 48 hot dog races At Progressive Field

Wow I think it's time to put this dog down Is that like the number one? Like, does that come before the Pistons Is Mustard? Like, this is a Detroit No, this is a Cleveland story Oh, a Cleveland story

Let's fuck Cleveland I don't care about Cleveland That's where Cleveland hot dogs come from Is dogs that retire from... They turn them into hot dogs I try to even search Detroit in hot dog But it's all just about our Roker Scarfing down hot dogs

The untold truth of ballpark Franks That's kind of scary We're not going to read that one That's too scary I don't want to ruin ballpark Franks for everybody Well, Nick, that was Let's Be Frank Something that's intro Is always better than the actual content of it

Hey, it's time to answer some questions Just like a restaurant We've already got feedback Let's upper the feedback Emma Erdbrink is coming out Hello Emma, everyone Alright, I got Craig P, Chris C, and Sarah from Lansing

Wow You guys want to mosey your way up Come up here Emma is going to... Did somebody pee their pants down here? It's really wet Is there urine? Is that urine or just a...

Oh, you spilled your beer Oh, boy You never know Party foul Alright Hey, you're not one to talk about spilling, Nick I tell you, I came out with two drinks And I did not...

I have not spilled one yet So I'm feeling pretty good Wait, what did you think the water on the floor... You think that was just seeping off the audience? Someone said there was pee And I was like, is it pee? Is it urine? Let's take a trail of pee

Alright I was just double checking No, it's just spilled beer Double-boy's fans do just pee their pants freely Anyway, this is Craig Hi, Craig Hi, Craig Hi, Craig

Thanks So using the Stay Puffed Marshmallow Man as an example from Ghostbusters What food or food mascot would terrify you if it was a giant? I thought you were going to ask which we would eat Because I would eat the Stay Puffed It looks good Like when it explodes at the end, it looks good Right?

Yeah It does look good But I understand it I think a frozen pizza mascot, Mama Celeste That's who you'd eat? If she was kaiju-sized No No, it's scary

Who would scare you? Oh, that's right That's the question Italian grandma with a wooden spoon Knocking over buildings? That'd be terrifying I thought it was who would you eat I'm sorry

Hmm I guess the hamburger helper hand Oh, Jesus Christ What a nightmare I think just grab you and crush you to bits Junji Ito's shit That's fucking awful Yeah, that'd be pretty fucking good

Those are both good I don't got one That's your turn, Mitch Think of one I guess the king from Burger King But that's like trying to be creepy at this point He is kind of trying to be creepy But that thing would be terrifying

If it was 500 feet tall Yeah, that mask You know what? I got the answer Yeah Giant Jared from Subway That's perfect Could happen Could happen

Stops eating those subs Bloons up again Thanks for your question Next question This is Chris Hi, Chris Hi, Chris So we might all remember the Gatorade commercials

Where they sweat Gatorade Oh, God, yeah What liquid or drink would you want to be able to sweat? What a nightmare What a sweat What the fuck's wrong with the city? What monster do you want to terrify you? And what body horror do you want to endure?

Would I want to sweat? Alright, next question If you could make your calm any flavor, what would it be? Fucking no That's pretty easy, actually Yeah Well, whatever you would say for calm, say for sweat Okay

Milk It's weird because my answer for sweat is calm Because to you, that is a drink Hmm No, I mean, look, I guess the nice thing about the Gatorade in theory Aside from it being sticky, but ignore that Is that, like, you're leaking out your electrolytes But you could restore them by, like, licking your flesh, right?

So I guess applying that principle Country gravy What if you look what you've done? Oh, my God Look what you did There's only one answer for me, why? Yes Fagal rock and rye

Wow That was spilled A nearest spill You almost got a live spill Jesus Christ I tried to hang it up in the microphone stand Imagine that sip you just took coming straight off my face Ugh, fuck

You're licking gravy off Nick's leg What's going on, guys? That's all that would happen You're licking each other That sounds like a cool Patreon content You guys should do that How many people listen to this show? I have one more question

Hi This is Sarah Hi, Sarah Hi, Sarah So if you had stats of any food you've eaten or hours playing a video game Which would you never want to know? Oh, life stats I love this

Oh, wow Because there is something to, like, the end-of-life stat screen That would be, like, number of dogs, pets Like, like, oh, wow, that's more than I expected, you know I honestly think the depressing answer would be number of days spent looking at my phone Like, that would be the answer that I feel like anyone would be like Like, you know what? It was one year and ten months

I think people would be like, Jesus Christ You know what I feel bad for for this audience? Yeah Number of hours seeing Doe Boyz live Two Oh, fuck I would, like, hate to see, like, a number of hours spent having sex And it's like, two

That would suck And then I hate to see sleep hours would be bad I would love to see, like, like, how much, like, in terms of tonnage, how much sodium I've consumed Like, how much salt You would want to see a pile of salt Yeah, I want to see a pile of salt that would just, like, be like, holy shit, I put that much of my body over the course of my life If I could break that down into all the, like, kind of staple foods Like, if I could see, like, how much butter, how much milk, how much sugar, how much salt

I'd be, I don't know, I'd love to see that, that would be fascinating Yeah, fuck Gravy How many cows that you, the soul thing How many souls That's the answer, how many souls did I consume How many souls did this one life, like, take into their body to sustain themselves And it's millions, because if we're counting microbes, if those have souls

Microbes don't have souls How do you know? You think there's microbes in heaven and microbes in hell? It's a great theological question I don't know There have to be because we have, like, well, okay, we're talking about our bodies are represented different spiritually Because we do have normal flora and fauna that's just a part of our life Uh-oh

No better way to end the show than this We need better, we need better our guts Got bacteria Like on our faces Yeah The person asking the question left Here's, alright, I got one that would be embarrassing for you Emma left

She just resigned The crew of the theater is packing up Here's one that's embarrassing for you Number of hours spent watching Minion movies Nothing embarrassing about that at all You know what I want to be embarrassed about? Yeah Number of minutes watching Michael Shannon go to town on Momo

That's our show Bye Thank you, Detroit Give it up for Marissa Benson Thank you Emma Erdbrink Emma Thanks to Majestic Theater until next time

For the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigher, Happy We'll see you at the W See you at the W, everybody Thank you all On the next Doe Boys Double, we're hitting the tube to watch a chef visit some of the most beloved local joints across the country Ben Axelrad joins to review episode one of the Guy Fieri franchise that's been a food network staple since 2006 It's the Doe Boys pilot program, diners, drive-ins, and dives, only at patreon.com slash Doe Boys Is that money or what?

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