Doughboys - Burger King 4 with Don't Stop Or We'll Die
Episode Date: November 19, 2020Michael Cassady & Paul Rust (Don't Stop or We'll Die, SONG-A-WEEK) join the 'boys for an episode free of all silliness and a revisit of Burger King. Plus, another edition of Jingle All The Whey.So...urces for this week's intro:https://www.smh.com.au/national/jack-not-so-hungry-for-burger-king-20020425-gdf84v.htmlhttps://www.smh.com.au/business/burger-king-slips-into-hungry-jacks-uniform-20030602-gdguzj.htmlhttps://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2003/05/26/daily36.htmlhttps://mashable.com/2016/01/22/american-chains-australia-struggled/https://www.thebalancesmb.com/us-retail-chains-in-australia-2892913https://www.hungryjacks.com.au/about-hj-sAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In 1968, Australia was transformed forever by an American invasion.
Not troops, but the arrival of fast food chains, which may have ultimately proved more detrimental
to Aussie lifespans.
And while US mainstays like McDonald's, KFC, and Pizza Hut were able to establish Australian
outposts that retained their branding, the second biggest hamburger chain in the country
and now the world was shut out due to a trademark dispute with an existing eatery in the city
of Adelaide, and so had to discard its regal name and adopt a new moniker.
That new brand, borrowed from a pancake mix owned by its then-parent company Pillsbury,
was, and remains to this day, as Hungry Jacks.
And despite this copyright hiccup, Hungry Jacks would thrive in the land down under,
introducing its American forebearer's signature whopper to Hungry Aussies.
And when fellow American McDonald's runner-up Wendy's flopped, Hungry Jacks would even
acquire its real estate holdings and convert them into additional HJ locations.
But over time, its US parent company was not content to watch its wholly owned subsidiary
thrive from afar under a different name, even though the logo, menu, and tagline were effectively
the same.
And in 1991, it attempted to sever its franchising agreement with Hungry Jacks.
And then, after the trademark for the aforementioned Adelaide establishment lapsed, the US parent
company entered the Australian market directly, opening restaurants under its original Royal
Ground Beef Sandwich name, leading to the bizarre capitalistic situation of a company
effectively competing against itself and subsequently suing itself in what would prove to be a landmark
case in the Australian legal system.
Ultimately, Australian courts ruled in favor of Hungry Jacks, establishing that its American
parent was not acting in good faith and enshrining that very concept into Australian contract
law.
And so, the US brand's new outposts were reabsorbed by the Australian franchisee.
Today, the parent company has nearly 18,000 locations worldwide, 400 of which reside in
the Commonwealth of Australia, where, its legal disputes resolved, the chain continues
to be known as Hungry Jacks.
This week on Doughboys, we return, once again, to Burger King.
Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Honey Bunches of Oaf, the Night Spoon Mike Mitchell.
I won't stand for that.
You won't stand for that, that's where someone's crossed the line.
You can call me fat, you can call me lazy, but an Oaf?
I won't take it, Wigs.
Well take it up with Anthony P at Bubbalicious47, who wrote in, I don't even think this roast
is particularly good, but it would be fun to hear Weiger say out loud, eat, drink, and
be merry.
Hey, there you go.
Alright, he likes...
We'll take Matthews.
Fucking, I'm Anthony P, I gotta fucking, I gotta, oh my, I'm gonna hit him with this
roast.
You're just inferring he's Italian from the name Anthony?
Yeah.
Sounds like a, hey, sounds like a dumb Italian if you ask me.
Wow, wow, Mitch.
Broadside of the Italian American community.
Those marinara stained dipshits.
Coming hard at the spaghetti strainers.
He likes Dave Matthews, I like him.
Roastpoonmanageemail.com, any riled up Italians out there who want to take out your frustrations
on the night spoon, send them in, roastpoonmanageemail.com, Mitch, not Italian, but New England, a New
England chain, I know a place that you know and one that Emma knows as well, our producer
Emma Erdbrink, Friendly's has filed for bankruptcy and has put itself up for sale now.
You and I know that we've been around the block with these bankruptcies, bankruptcy for a chain
restaurant does not mean that it's necessarily going away, but it's in all likelihood going
to be sold to like one of these fucking private equity, you know, megaliths, probably sold
from the private equity megalith that currently owns it to a different one and then, you know,
have some locations contracted or whatever.
Friendly's.
Hope, I just hope they stay alive in some way.
I want to fribble wigs.
Are you worried that the new owner will rebrand it as unfriendly's?
Yeah, you know what?
After today, maybe that's what former President Trump does.
Wow.
Mitch, so you've pointed out that we are recording on November 3rd, 2020 Election Day.
As of just schedule wise, it worked out that this has ended up being a thing that's on
Election Day and isn't going to be released for a couple of weeks, so you're calling it.
You're saying former President Trump, you're saying the man that I refer to as the orange
buffoon has been excised from the White House.
The American electorate has said to the man who popularized the phrase, you, sir, are
fired.
Oh man, what a day that will be.
What a day that would be.
Well, today is the day.
What a day this will be.
When Biden gets to say you're fired.
You know what, Wigs?
Yes.
I know that all the former Presidents are here to support Joe Biden.
Right.
Yeah, you know what?
That's actually a thing we arranged special for Election Day.
We've got some former Presidents here.
Yeah, maybe I'll wait a second and we'll introduce our guests before we hear from all the Presidents.
Now you said all the Presidents.
So we can infer that there's more than one.
Uh-huh.
Oh wow, very exciting.
We can introduce our guests, Mitch, and we're very, very excited to have them to our favorites.
I know what you're waiting for.
How the hell?
Displeanation.
And here is a little drop, Wigs.
Here we go.
I hope it's presidential.
Wigs, what if I want to say come?
What if I want to say come?
Wigs.
Come, come, come, come, come, come.
Oh yeah, you know I love to come, come, come.
Wait, wait, wait.
I never said come in the whole song.
Hey boys, big fan of the podcast even though I don't really care for the two hosts, Mitch
and Weigar.
JK, love you guys.
Here's a drop I made with some tips on what to do if you want to say come while your mom
is home.
Cheers, Pat S. from Chicago.
My mother is upstairs napping, so I can say wow.
So I don't have to say come at a very quiet level.
Say it with confidence.
Say it full volume then.
Come.
Thanks, Pat S. from Chicago.
Let me guess the S and Pat S stands for spaghetti.
Yeah, fucking all these fucking Italian meatheads that listen to the podcast.
There's an olive oil stain in his email.
Hey, wait, Weigar, before we introduce our guests, I think we should let them know about
something we're putting into effect today.
We should say we should have the disclaimer and then introduce them.
That actually might set a good tone.
Yes, okay.
Well, we're recording on election day and we're recording not at our usual time.
As such, we're under a little bit of a weird time crunch here, Mitch, you have a limited
window.
That's not true.
I thought there was a justification for this.
No, I said I'll go as long as we go.
Well, sure.
Yes, but to the guests now.
It's fine.
I don't want them to think that there's a window.
Okay.
All right.
Fine.
Well, we'll dispense of this fiction.
Okay.
You and I just know that these episodes can sometimes get a little haywire and go a little
baddie, if you will.
That's right.
With these guests in particular.
And so we have established a rule because of the circumstances.
Uh-oh.
Someone's breaking the rule already.
I'm not going to say who.
No, without even hearing what it is and perhaps giving us the reason for the rule.
His jaw will hit the floor when he hears this rule.
Simply, the rule is this.
Can I say it, Wags?
Yes, please.
A silly fee.
That's right.
There shall be no silliness today, lest you be hit with a silly fee and have to put a silly
dollar in the silly jar.
And then the total, this is what Wags said, the total sum will be donated to the loser
of today's election.
In the spirit of good sportsmanship.
That was Wags' rule that he came up with.
What should the silly jar be?
Should be something silly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Something sussical.
A monkey's butt.
Yeah, a monkey's butt.
Okay.
You have to put a silly dollar and a silly dollar is a dime.
So you have to put a dime in a monkey's butt if you're silly today.
So don't be silly.
Don't be silly.
I hope our guests are aware.
I think the rule is being mutely broken, but perhaps when we introduce them, they'll behave.
I think that this person, I think that this guest, I think he's actually just very mad
at this rule.
I don't think that he's...
Oh, he might be livid.
He might be...
I think it's genuine anger.
He might be enraged.
Well, you know, perhaps his blood is boiling because he has some Italian-American heritage.
Perhaps his blood is boiling much like a six quart vat of pasta with some lasagna noodles
in it.
Our guests today, today comprise a power pop band known as Don't Stop or We'll Die.
Returning to the show, two of our favorites, Michael Daniel Cassidy and Paul Rust.
What's up, dudes?
Oh, hey, guys.
Hey.
Look, I couldn't agree more.
Mike, I think you'll agree with me.
We don't want to be silly, and silly or not, we were coming in here in full mode of solemn
seriousness.
Wow.
Oh, that's great.
We both really wanted to emphasize how, you know, serious we can be.
Oh.
Wow.
All right.
Zero sillies for the boys.
This is what we like.
This is great.
This is kind of...
This is the energy we want.
This is what we want.
I think you did accidentally incentivize it with changing it to putting a diamond to a
monkey's butt.
Zero percent sillies for the boys.
We couldn't do it.
Oh, boy.
We couldn't do it.
Oh, man.
Clean, clang, chaching, there goes the dimes, and the monkeys butt.
There you go.
There you go, monkey number one.
You better line these monkeys up, because I got a roll of dimes, and it's coming to
the time where we put it on.
Mike, don't start singing our first hit single.
Roll of dimes.
Wagner, are these...
So, is it a jar shaped like a monkey's butt or is it an actual monkey?
They were putting it down.
That's a great question.
I was picturing a jar shaped like a monkey's butt, but it seemed to be implying an actual
monkey that was bent over, and you were depositing them in those butt like a coin bank, which
is a possibility.
I mean, what's the sillier option, I guess?
Well, look, you know, I love the idea of a silly jar, but it's not like with a cursed
jar, you put it in a jar that's shaped fuck.
That's true.
That's a good point.
I will say it's a conventional jar.
The monkey's butt is out the window, a conventional jar just to sort of emphasize the seriousness
of this.
Put a fuck dollar in the shit jar.
Yes, yes, in the spirit of seriousness.
I think it should be an actual monkey, because then you're going to not want to be silly
because the monkey could rip your face or genitals off.
That's true.
Yeah, that's where I went to, yeah.
Yeah.
They don't like it.
Yeah, that's a dangerous situation.
You can take any part of me, but those two parts, and I'm cool with it, but my face,
I'm just going to tell you, thank you.
So yeah, I don't know, I guess I wasn't necessarily picturing live monkeys, but I think it's more
silly to have a silly jar shaped like an animal than if it's a real monkey, that's almost
less silly.
So I don't know, we should probably dedicate 20 minutes or so to it.
That's depraved.
It's depraved, yeah, exactly.
It's inhuman.
It's inhuman.
It's absolutely monstrous.
That's what we're trying to get away from.
It's absolutely monstrous.
Okay, great, the silly jar is almost full.
She blinded me with a little bit of molecules.
Okay, pushing the silly, going to pull back on the silly, keep it vanilla.
Guys, it's great to see you.
It's great to see you guys.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, so good to see you guys.
Thanks for having us.
And thank you so much for having us.
What a delight, what a delight to have you guys.
Our first lockdown episode, the final episode of the Tournament of Champiens, Munch Madness
2020, our McDonald's Tournament, we, was the two of you guys, where we anointed fries
as the winner of this year's championship, but this is our first lockdown episode.
It's six months later, six months and change later, and we're still locked down.
Who would have thought it?
We thought we were locked down for 15, 30 days, where it's been fucking eight months,
seven months, six months, however long it's been.
Yeah, man.
It's wild.
It's wild.
Seven months.
But it feels like almost like a chapter is being turned, you know.
I can see like a big storybook, and a giant page is flipping over.
Right.
And a big finger is reaching in and going.
And one page, we barely can see the top of the next page.
That's where we are.
Also, I love as this page is being turned, it's roughly I think like 3.30 right now
in Pacific coast time.
The clock's just changed.
So I like the idea that we might be getting first Florida results in while discussing
snack or whack.
Oh boy, that would be a brisk pace to the show because snack or whack generally comes in
the third act.
I'm happy.
Hey, Trump just won Florida, and I'll go snack on.
Hey, Wags.
Yes.
I want to say there's a song, Rapper's Delight.
Well, today is a podcast delight.
Okay.
That's good.
Podcasters Delight?
Oh God.
You said it was a delight to have these guys here, and I said like the song Rapper's Delight.
Oh, you know what it was?
I thought you were going to say either podcasters delight or actually what I thought you were
going to do was going to go in an angle where it's like candy wrappers delight.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, me too.
Or because you have the lettuce wrap, like it's time for the lettuce wrappers delight.
No.
Now that that's been brought up, I guess we owe that.
No.
Yeah, we owe that.
We owe that later.
After the Presidents.
Put it in the silly jar.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
The thing we owe is the former Presidents here to congratulate Joe Biden.
Here's the thing, Mitch.
All the former Presidents alive and dead.
Before the Presidents show up, I'll pay Mitch a compliment.
The reason we thought that, Mitch, the candy wrappers thing is because you have such a
high bar, a precedent of stellar material.
We were just all assuming.
Well, I was, it was sincere with podcast delight.
This is a delight to have you all here.
It's a delight for us.
And I agree.
Congratulations on election day.
It's me, Richard Nixon.
Wow, President, former President Nixon.
Thank you for introducing yourself.
It was helpful.
I'm giving the peace sign right now with both hands.
You are indeed.
But still somehow you're holding onto your mic.
I suppose I should introduce myself.
Nancy.
Wow.
My friend.
I'm holding two handfuls of marbles.
That's right.
Well.
Okay.
Yeah.
President Ronald Reagan.
While Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon.
An honor to meet you both.
Two transformative conservative Republicans.
Really our current political climate is owed largely the two of you.
How fitting that these two former Californian Republicans would be here at our California
footsteps.
And I was.
Yeah, very fitting.
I'm not a crook, but Donald Trump sure is.
Wow.
Skating.
Wow.
Richard Nixon.
And hey, I don't think you should forget about me.
President Barack Obama.
Oh, yeah, we can't forget about you.
This is such an honor to have these three presidents here on this Zoom call.
Love them or hate them.
It's an honor to meet all of you right now.
Yeah, I do want to say with those words, President Nixon, welcome to the resistance.
It's great to have you aboard.
Hey, am I Bay now?
Nixon is Bay.
Hi.
Can I just pick up here for a minute?
Yes, of course.
It's a me, a Jimmy Carter.
President Carter.
Wow.
What an honor.
And as well as my Republican friend, Richard Nixon, is putting down a President Trump.
I would like to say Jimmy Carter fully supports President Trump.
Oh my goodness.
This is a shock.
Yes, man.
President Carter, you endorsed Bernie Sanders.
It seems like this is against everything that you have worked your entire political career
for.
And it's me, Obama, once again.
And I just want to say that I too support President Trump.
Wow.
You've been campaigning for Joe Biden.
I mean, I guess is that just out of allegiance because he's your friend?
For me, it was just fun to hit that basketball shot in the gym that you all saw.
That was very cool.
That video was really cool.
We're definitely all thinking about it too on November 19th.
Hillary and I loved watching that basketball shot.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
There he is.
That's right.
That's right.
Big Mac.
I wanted to, you know, that'd be like me coming through the gym and someone throws me a tennis
saxophone.
Wait a minute.
If you're Bill Clinton, then there's this other guy who usually comes on the show and
says he's Bill Clinton.
No.
Who's this?
Who's this guy been?
Now, wait a minute.
It's me.
Hey there.
There's two people.
I'm more the Dave.
Yeah.
I'm an impressionist that gets called in when he gets COVID.
I kept him around for when I'm sick.
That makes sense.
That explains my accent.
And sometimes when it's time to make love to Hillary, I push him in the room.
Oh boy.
Well, it's an honor to have all of you here, but I will say that we have some very important
business to attend to, which is...
Okay, bye.
They all just left it.
A portal to hell opened.
They all went into it.
Including Carter.
I was shocked.
And Obama.
It's because I planted peanuts.
Don't plant peanuts.
You give your soul over to Satan when you plant the peanuts.
Wow.
Man, that, it was like a maw, like gobbled them up and two jaws shut, closed over them.
Two jaws of earth and molten.
And all that's left is a single hot peanut.
We gotta plant it.
Guys, we have to plant it.
You know, don't bless the lesson of Carter is don't plant it.
I mean, I love a hot peanut, but I didn't want to get one this way.
All right, put a dime in the monkeys, but you guys got to do a little sound pad thing
that when it goes into the thing goes.
How much will that cost to do a monkey sound?
How much will it cost?
Yeah, we bought that from like a library or something.
I can find that for free.
All right, good.
I have my own libraries.
It's okay.
I have my own monkeys too.
It's fine.
I have a feeling it's going to cost us $50 every time we use the monkey, the monkey holler.
What do you think?
Well, you have to pay me $50 every time we use it.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
She named her price fair and square.
I wanted to ask the both of you because, you know, we were locked, we were in the early
part of lockdown, we recorded our previous episode.
Now we're, we've been in lockdown for a long time.
You're both, you're both family men.
You've got kids you're taking care of.
How was, what has been your fast food consumption during COVID?
Hey, Paul and Cassidy, you guys are a lot like me.
Wow, Peter Griffin.
That's right.
I'm voting for Biden myself.
President Peter Griffin.
That's right.
If you ever watch Family Guy, I'm sure that I became president one time.
Probably happened in a later season.
Yeah.
Let me guess.
They had to bring in carpenters to extend the oval office.
And I was secretary of defense.
Stewie.
Smaller than Trump.
Oh my God.
That's what you would, you would have that role, Stewie.
Very war like, very much like past secretary defenses.
Like Donald Rumsfeld.
That makes sense.
All right.
What the hell?
Goodbye, everyone.
Oh yeah.
Wow.
The earth opened up for one more, one more soul.
You left another peanut.
This one's freezing cold.
I love freezing cold peanuts, but I didn't want one that way.
All right.
Another dime into the monkey's butt, Paul.
That was serious.
I said it's serious.
You can take the dime back out.
Yeah, you can take it out of the butt.
Oh, he sucked it out of the perfectly.
No, that was the sound effect.
That wasn't me.
All right, Emma.
Okay.
You got to put the sound in reverse.
I don't know how much that's going to cost us, but you got to put it in reverse.
There's a reverse fee of 20 bucks.
Wow.
Wow.
It's a bargain versus a normal fee.
Yeah, let's just buy them reversed.
There'll be 20 bucks a pop.
We'll reverse them ourselves.
Guys, what has been your fast food consumption like during quarantine?
Have you been eating a lot of it?
Have you been eating less of it?
Talk us through it.
I've been eating more.
I moved during this time, which I wouldn't recommend, but it was like anytime that I move,
I eat more fast food.
Just like when you're not moved into your new place or you're in transition mode,
I feel like that's when I eat it the most.
That's been mixed with too much delivery, lots of food delivery, too much.
I hear you, Mike.
What have you been your go-tos?
I have been going to McDonald's more than anywhere else.
Wow.
For this, are we supposed to not say what it is?
I went to this place.
I ate there multiple times, which is just a sign of where I'm at because I was like,
now I need a nice coffee.
I'll drive through again and get some other whatever, try some other stuff.
You're not alone on that.
I can at least say from my own experience in terms of multiple trips to this week's chain.
Paul, what were you going to say?
How has your fast food consumption been?
I was just going to agree with Mike that whether it's moving or if you're just traveling,
you're on the road vacationing or in quarantine,
I'm sure having very familiar things that you can count on,
reoccurring no matter what in any given stitch, that's a nice gift to be given.
Right.
Totally.
As I'm thinking of it, not to get too sincere,
but when I went through the drive-through for our place today,
oh my gosh, my heart swelled with the people who are working right now at fast food.
I know you guys talk about it, but it was just like, they're doing really kind things.
That's a big thing.
Anyway.
All right, Paul.
Another diamond in the monkey's butt.
Mitch?
Yes, don't be so ridiculous.
Your view?
I hear you about that.
It's a skew.
My view is a little...
People must be leaning on it more.
If I'm eating it this much, the people who always eat it are probably eating it more,
and they must be overworked more than ever.
Yeah, and I think also a lot of people have less income or less money to spend on food
because our government hasn't helped people at all, really.
That usually results in more fast food consumption.
It's kind of like a lot of what's happening right now is that all these independent restaurants
are having to shudder or scale back operations, and all the chains are just...
It's just an amplification of what we saw over the past couple of decades,
where chains and fast food are becoming more prominent, and local places are tailing off.
Mitch, how about you?
Have you been eating...
Since you've been back in Quincy, have you been eating more or less fast food?
Yeah, of course.
We don't begin credulous.
I mean, here's the deal.
My mom yells at me, I'm 38 years old, and my mom yells at me when I eat fast food.
So I've been sneaking more fast food lately.
How do you put it in a different bag or something?
I wear a very tall hat.
Yeah, that's why you're like, I'm practicing for my Abraham Lincoln play.
And your mom's like, Abraham Lincoln seems to be dripping milkshake from thy brow.
He was in biblical times.
What is your routine? You eat in your car or what do you do?
Four score and seven fries ago.
Oh boy.
Holy seven.
I mean, yeah, that's great.
That's great.
It's really, no notes.
It's good.
Oh, Weiger, would you be happy if I said nuggets?
The sketch teacher.
The Nuggetsburg address.
The Nuggetsburg address.
No, the only way you could have made Weiger happy is four score and seven hot salads ago.
Come on, Weiger.
Come on, Wags.
Wags is true.
You're needling me with podcast canon.
It's not true.
Wags, on election day, just admit it's true and Biden will win.
Yes, on today of all days, please now.
Never.
I'll never admit it.
Not even for Biden to win?
Not even for Biden himself.
Wow.
Even if Biden were here and personally requested it,
I would never, ever in a million years just declare that I actually like hot salad.
This is a fiction.
You've just jinxed it.
Weiger?
Yeah.
I just want you to know regarding that hot salad crack, I'm sorry.
It wasn't cool.
I respect you and I hope you can find it in your heart on election day to forgive me.
Wow, that's really big of you to say, Paul.
I do forgive you and yeah, it's totally cool.
You're just having fun.
It's just part of the podcast.
We know what this is.
You guys should kiss and make up.
Come on, guys.
We're friends.
Do you want to kiss?
Zoom kiss?
Yeah, we can zoom kiss.
Well, we can zoom kiss now and put a post-quarantine kiss on the books.
Emma, how much for like a kiss sound effect to add in here?
Oh, those are free.
Oh, okay.
That's nice.
You can kiss each other all you want.
Okay.
Emma, I have a question.
How much to put like a fleshy pad on my laptop so that it feels as if I'm kissing lips?
Jesus.
I don't know.
Google that and let me know what you find.
Yeah, it's really outside of our area of expertise.
Yeah, Google fleshy pad.
Google fleshy laptop pad and let me know what you find.
There's no fleshy pads.
You got the pad.
Is that how you describe the feeling of lips?
Fleshy pads.
What are you talking about?
Lips are fleshy.
How else would you describe lips?
They're fleshy pads.
I mean, I just say lips.
I don't know if I'd say fleshy pads, but if you're saying why isn't there a thing that
I can put on my laptop to kiss that feels like human flesh, I would just think that's not
an item that's in high demand.
Yeah, no shit, you dumbass.
I know this.
Look at Matt at me.
He just asked me why it didn't exist.
I actually don't think that a fleshy pad exists for a back book.
Yeah, no, I'm joking.
It's a joke on election day.
Mitch, my friend Buffalo Bill might be able to help you, but he's a little out there.
Hey, speaking of Buffalo, who here is eating Buffalo?
I have.
And let me tell you, it's a lot like beef.
Hold on a second.
I gotta ask.
Hold on one second.
I gotta need a time out for a second.
Yeah.
Mom, are you okay?
No, I'm on.
I'm doing the podcast.
The broom fell down the stairs.
I thought my mother had fallen.
Oh my God.
What's with the election night omen?
Ma, you're okay?
What's the broom mean?
Does the broom indicate a bite and sweep of the Midwest?
Ma, are you still down here?
Ask her what the broom means.
Will Trump bristle at the news?
Ma, what does the broom mean?
Perhaps there is some sort of witch's bruit play in the Electoral College.
Okay.
All right, we're recording.
Say hi from Cassidy later.
Maybe just a simple indication that Biden will stick to the issues.
Stick?
Like a broomstick?
Yeah.
Yeah, like a broomstick.
Yeah.
Issues.
Is everything okay, Mitch?
Ma, everything's fine, right?
You can go up and check on her if you want.
Go check on her.
It's a broom that she didn't...
You hurt.
Is that the broom?
Is that the broom?
That was Paul doing an impression of your mom.
Don't be misled by that.
You're probably confused.
Why don't you come up on a niche economy?
My mom sounds like Miss Piggy here for some reason.
No, I don't.
Did Miss Piggy say dough?
I hurt my fleshy pads.
Your lips?
Who even uses those words?
Oh, I know who does.
My Kermie.
Well, and your lips is a snout.
It's like one lip and a snout.
It's not even the same.
Why are we comparing apples to oranges here, Miss Piggy?
Piggy, we know I want to kiss your fleshy pads, Piggy.
Oh, Mitch.
Mitch, your neighbor, Fred Gable, he's up here, the one who sounds like Kermit.
It ain't easy.
Kissing your fleshy pads.
Mom?
Two Kermits.
Are you still down here?
I don't want you to hear any of this.
Wait, it's not.
You're just going to do your headphones, right?
Yeah, but she's hearing me say weird things.
Mitch, I will pay you $100 right now to say come.
No.
Emma, no.
He won't do it.
I'll do it too.
Emma.
I'll pay $102.
Well, I'll give you $100.
What are you saying, Emma?
She can hear us.
All right.
That's enough for me to touch.
She said neither one of you should be saying things I can't hear.
That's what she's saying.
Wow.
This is a total like sleepover moment.
I got so scared.
I was like, oh, you didn't mean it.
I'm sorry.
I was just trying to make my friends laugh.
Mom?
This is anarchy.
Oh, man.
Mitch has cupped his hand to the microphone.
He's leaning in very close, making himself very small.
Come.
Come.
Come.
Come.
Come.
God damn it.
Through an extra swear.
We only heard the end of it.
We couldn't hear the C.
I can't say that loud.
I only heard like um.
Yeah, it sounded like you just said um.
What?
You were stalling for time.
Because of that, you now have to give us all those sound effects for free because I did
your bet.
Okay, fair trade.
Wow.
I think we both come out ahead.
Well, hey, let's get into Burger King this week's chain, which we last reviewed just over
a year ago with our friend Haley Mancini.
We reviewed the impossible whopper upon its introduction, Mitch.
Burger King was founded in 1953 as Insta Burger King in Jacksonville, Florida.
Pivotal, Florida.
How about that?
Wow.
They dropped the Insta Facebook style the next year, 1954 and are now just Burger King,
obviously.
And also, like we always mention, known as Hungry Jacks in Australian.
Hey, to our Australian listeners, hello down under.
Jesus.
Do they like that?
I don't know.
Never got any feedback one way or the other.
Cassidy, I wanted to ask.
Hey, don't forget who was president in 1953.
Me, Dwight Eisenhower.
Wow.
Did you look that up?
No.
Also, this is how I sound.
Very cool.
Always very believable when someone is yelling at you, this is how I sound.
It's hard to not believe.
There was a whole thing with, because Dwight Eisenhower famously had an incident with his
health and then it was a whole White House press corps was trying to decide how much
do we cover it, how much do we don't.
I think it was a heart attack.
And so, the White House doctor just decided, I'm just going to say every single bit of
information, I'm just going to give out everything, including at one point he just said like,
the president had a stool which was unremarkable.
And that was just reported out that the president took a normal shit.
And at that point, the press corps was like, I think we don't need to get all this information
anymore.
And the stock market crashed.
I got a question for you.
Do you think my mom is secretly a witch?
That's the reason for the broomstick.
Yes.
And she was actually attempting to fly on it.
So just a new witch or not good at a witch?
Is your mom okay?
She's okay, right?
She's okay, right?
It was the broom that fell.
It was not her.
Okay.
Which leads me to think, is she secretly a witch?
Well, have you seen any cauldrons in the house?
Great question.
No, but there are cats in the house now.
Uh-oh.
But do you have any alfs in the basement?
Wait, what?
Yeah, what?
That would explain the cats.
There's some alfs in the basement.
Okay.
They're grooming them for dinner.
If there were alfs, hey, I've said this to Weiger before.
But if I ever met Alf, I would knock his teeth out.
I'd pull each of his teeth out so he couldn't harm Wally and Irma.
Right, Weig?
You torture an alien life form.
You dismember an extraterrestrial just so your cats weren't threatened.
Also, did you?
You're pulling out my teeth.
Yeah, that's right.
You don't touch my cats, you fucking asshole.
Wally, my molars.
Mitch, did you pluralize Alf to alves?
Paul did, yes.
No, Paul said alves.
That's good.
Alf, you have to protect your molars, Alf.
I believe, doesn't Alf only have those two teeth?
Like two on the top and then just kind of a fur mouth?
Like instead of, that would be furry pads instead of fleshy pads.
Let me look at the death marks on my dick.
Oh boy.
There's four.
Great.
So Alf was...
That's when clarified.
Great, so Alf's going down on Paul, great.
Everyone's happy.
Mitch, I don't think your mom is a witch because she is such an angel to be around.
That's true.
Remember when you told her the bed was uncomfortable that you slept in at the house?
Look, she was a great host.
Wonderful sense of hospitality.
We had some wonderful conversations.
She cooked some great food, had a great...
And her award was Wiger saying the bed he slept in was uncomfortable.
It was your childhood bed and I was just being honest.
It's kind of uncomfortable.
Guess what, I slept in that bed for fucking 15 years, more than that.
20 some odd years now.
The springs are probably...
Didn't have anything left in them.
The springs are bouncy as hell.
You could put them on your shoes and bounce halfway to the moon.
So why did you guys request Burger King?
Why did you want to cover this chain in particular?
Well, I think...
To give credit or credit to you, the first episode was with John Roy.
That's right.
John Royer first, we returned it to it with Jordan Morris and then we were visited one more time with Hailey Mancini.
Now we are reviewing it with the two of you.
Well, we stand on the shoulders of giants here with them.
I think Burger King, they're one of the top three.
Like Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, the big three.
Interesting.
They would be the Studio 60 maybe.
I think McDonald's...
What do you think, Wags? McDonald's, Wendy's and Burger King?
Those are the big three.
Carl's?
I'm not saying like my favorite.
I'm saying like...
In the United States, wouldn't you think that Wendy's, Burger King, McDonald's are kind of like the big three?
Certainly in terms of market share and I guess mind share even.
I think that's what people think of if you're going to have a triforce of fast food burger concepts.
I think Burger King is definitely in the mix.
Yeah.
Insta Burger King is dumb. That sounds dumb.
Was it like Insta Burger, like it's fast food is so new we have to have Insta in the name of the place?
Yeah, I think that was, you know, the post-war sort of everyone was into gadgetry and efficiency and I think is mechanization.
Yeah, exactly. So it was kind of some of that bleeding into it.
Yeah, it sounds familiar.
The Astro Bomb.
Right.
The Insta Bomb.
That's right.
Sorry, I said Astro.
Hey, you know, I had kind of an Insta Bomb when I Instagrammed a selfie and no one clicked like.
Dear God.
So yeah, Burger King, one of the big three, I mean, was it one that you guys went to when you were younger?
Was it like a favorite of yours as kids, either of you?
Yeah.
I would say the big ones for me growing up were Wendy's, McDonald's and Burger King and Subway, actually, too.
Subway is one of the biggest, I mean, I think Subway still has the most locations of any fast food restaurant in the world.
So Subway is very, very big.
But yeah, yeah, I mean, I'll to answer myself when I want to hear from Paul and I want to hear from Mitch as well.
Like Burger King was not as much of a place that I went to as a kid, but it was a place I went to a lot as an adult.
In particular, because one of the Burger Kings I went to for this episode was a Burger King that was directly across the street from an office building
that I worked in for years when I was in the video game industry.
And so it just became such a go-to either work lunch or after work quick grab dinner.
But Paul, how about you? What's your history with Burger King?
Hey guys, you want to run across the street, get dinner a BK and talk about what color Crash Bandicoot's pants should be?
Man, I wish I worked on the Crash Bandicoot franchise.
What a dream that would be.
Let's talk about what color Tony Soprano is, I guess.
I did briefly work on the Sopranos game.
And you also decided on gray for Tony, didn't you?
Well, you guys have some feelings about his background, right? His kind of family?
Yeah, actually, interestingly.
Comes from a no good Italian family.
Oh boy.
But it's fun.
Doubling down, I love it.
It's fun to watch the show because you laugh at Italian culture for a few seasons.
That's why you watch Sopranos.
That's why we're looking at it for a good laugh.
Paul, are you a BK fan?
Yeah, I love Burger King and I think growing up it was partly exotic because we had a McDonald's in our town
and maybe I'd come by Wendy's even more, but in Burger King you'd have to kind of
maybe go further than a stone's throw away to get one.
Now, here's the twist.
The place I probably, the fast food joint I eat most at now is probably Burger King
and it's so close by.
It's the opposite of what I grew up with.
Wow, an Oh Henry ending. How about that?
Yes.
An ending that would make M Night Shyamalan shit his chicken McNuggets.
They should have gotten M Night to do a bunch of McDonald's ads or something.
Oh man, that would have been so good.
Somebody thinks they're eating a cheeseburger and then by the end they're eating a fish sandwich.
Yeah, that's what would happen.
That's very good.
It's still a sandwich.
Mitch, you and I have talked at length about Burger King over the number of years we've been doing this podcast,
but Recap, what are your feelings on the chain past and present?
Past was the place that I would hang out down by a bank parking lot in a 7-Eleven and a Burger King.
That was where me and my friends hung out, including Wu Tang and Joey Oh,
and Justin and Micas and the two foes and a bunch of people.
Scoop.
Remondi in there maybe?
Remondi was in there, not as much, but he was there.
Yeah, yeah, Chankton.
We all hung out there and then we'd eat a Burger King quite a bit.
Martin, the nader I call him.
We'd all eat a Burger King.
We'd all eat a Burger King.
Yeah, we don't want to be reminded of nader on election day, Mitch.
Oh, God, I'm sorry.
It's all right.
My first vote was for nader.
Now, look, Iowa went blue that year in the 2000s, so it's okay, it's okay.
It is okay.
I did vote nader.
We're not going to remind people what I voted for in that election, but anyway.
It is bananas that we are releasing, that we are recording this on election day and not releasing it for like three weeks.
This is going to be such a weird little time capsule for people to listen to.
Perhaps people will have some post-election trauma.
They'll still be processing and then just relive it all over again in a few weeks.
Either way, it'll be obnoxious to listen to.
Well, let's get into it.
I just got some election results.
Trump has just won the state of Carlsberg.
What?
What?
What?
I don't get it.
Nobody.
Your mom just said what from upstairs.
Mitch has set his microphone down.
She's holding a monkey's butt shaped cup up to the door to hear.
What the hell are you talking about, Pam?
What is that?
Carlsberg?
Mitch can't breathe.
Explain yourself.
What is going on?
Mitch is shaking his head.
Let's move on, please.
Oh my God.
You can't.
We can't.
What does it mean?
We're so confused.
They voted for Trump.
Carlsberg?
Who is Carlsberg?
What's Carlsberg?
I was just saying a fake state.
That's all.
No.
Oh, no.
Oh, man.
You hear a mess.
Correct.
This is a tough day, people.
That was good.
Oh my goodness.
That was funny.
Yeah.
We liked it.
That's really good.
I'm glad to have it.
I did.
I really like it now.
It's like one of those things after you get pranked,
you can appreciate what the prank was.
Yeah.
I'm like one Zachary Brath who chased the punk kids
who messed up his car.
That's right.
He was livid.
And he was about to beat up the 12-year-old.
Yeah.
Well, if that wasn't aming enough,
I don't have to tell you what he said about the Da Vinci code
as he was walking out of the theater at the Yark Light.
Yeah.
Exquisite.
Is that what he said?
Ron Howard does it again.
Well, we should get into Burger King.
Have you ever seen the video of Zach Brath catching,
have you ever seen that of him catching the kid?
No, I just read the story.
Yeah.
I've watched lots of videos of Zach Brath catching kids,
but not for punked.
It is funny.
He grabs and he's like, you little shit,
I'm going to suck your little dick.
And then Donald FaZe and grabs and he's like,
it's a prank, man.
It's punked.
And the kid's like, also, it's not little.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
See?
Check it out.
And then he does it.
And they show that unedited on MTV.
It's wild.
Tasteless.
Yeah.
Crazy piece of footage.
So I used the app to order from Burger King,
but with drive through pickup, which is an option they have,
can I say this?
And I hadn't used the Burger King app before.
It is a fantastic app.
It's very slick, very smooth.
And I will say that, you know, Paul Rust,
you were shouting out fast food workers earlier,
service workers in general, just as such a tough climate right now.
And I will say the workers there and all on my multiple visits
to Burger King were super duper friendly and, you know,
dealing with an impossible circumstance right now.
And like that, my experience was that all these BK workers
were doing a great job under the circumstances.
They, it was, you know, prepared quickly.
And I was very happy with the service.
So here's the order I got on my primary visit.
And I had a couple peripheral visits that I will talk about those other items as well.
I'll talk to my first order first.
My main order, my primary order.
I got the vanilla mini shake.
And I'm going to start from the bottom because this was the lone disappointment.
I watch, I don't love BK kings, BK shakes rather, BK kings, another matter.
I don't like BK shakes and watching them make this through the window,
you could tell it was just pumps of word goop.
And it was tasted very artificial as expected,
tasted very medley and kind of the texture of tahini sauce.
Pretty unpleasant shake.
That said, the burger I got was the Big King XL,
which is a jumbo size version of their Big Mac clone.
My response was Big King XL, give me the M.
The XL is too much.
It's too big and it's too bunny in particular, just way too much bun here.
However, there's a great char on the patty.
The sauce is good.
They use the stacker sauce as kind of their Mac sauce,
which I think works really well.
Lots of pickles here.
I love all the pickles they throw on there.
And I prefer the onions and lettuce that they use here
and the absence of a middle one over the Big Mac itself.
That said, I still like the Big Mac more,
but this is a very good Big Mac adjacent sandwich.
Natalie got the Bacon King,
which she basically described as a whopper with bacon.
She liked the double meat and cheese.
We got ourselves some medium onion rings and some medium classic fries.
Onion rings, great fry, light texture, good consistent ring size.
They give you a BK, we had a BK ranch because we got some nugs,
which I'll talk about in a second.
And this benefits a lot from the ranch as does the fries.
Here's the comment I wrote down in my notes app about my Burger King fries.
Am I falling for BK fries?
Wow.
I think I might be falling for them.
They're good.
These were well-fried.
They had good Christmas, good potato texture.
And I went back and got some more today and I had the same sort of reaction.
They're good fries.
You come home and Natalie's like,
is that Burger King French fry I smell on your collar?
But the fries are good.
And then I got the spicy nuggets, which I think are maybe not better than McDonald's
because McDonald's nuggets are better, but they had a good heat to them
and they were meatier than expected.
Again, the good ranch helped.
So that was my primary order.
Mitch, how about you?
What did you get from Burger King?
Well, it's funny that, so I've made two visits to Burger King,
but funny that you say the first thing you said,
that's what I went back for on my second trip today.
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
I went back for the Big King XL,
which I realized if it was a T-shirt, it would be too tight on me.
State of Carlsberg.
I got the Big King XL and I liked it quite a bit.
In Wags, I think it was a pretty good sandwich.
First of all, I like the Burger King patties.
I think they're good.
The burger patties with cheese on them, I think they taste good.
If they're warm, I think you can get a cool,
sometimes they can be a little too cool.
That's the issue with Burger King.
I think sometimes that the sandwich itself,
but hey, that's a Big Mac issue too.
Sometimes the beef isn't hot, hot, hot as hot as you want.
But I got the Big King XL and I liked it quite a bit.
In Wags, I said this to my mom,
because I got my mom two sandwiches to try.
I said to my mom, these fries are good.
Wow.
Did they take away the breading?
Did the fries change?
I mean, I think they've made some tweaks.
They definitely don't seem as, if there is a breading on there,
but it definitely seems a lot less pronounced than it used to be.
This is a love story.
Both of you falling in love with fries, it's beautiful.
Yeah, I mean, they're good fries.
And Nick is falling in love for the first time.
A person who doesn't like fries, you love the BK fries.
Now, hey, hold on.
Let's not have a sequel to the hot salad debacle.
Let's back it up.
I do like fries.
Whoa, that was weird that that...
Yeah, the truck came by after Paul did the noises.
Can you do the noise again, see if it happens again?
Yeah, let me try.
Oh, wait, you might have to say back it up first.
Oh, sorry, you're right.
Back it up.
That was worth it.
Yeah, very good.
I also got the onion rings. I got a medium onion ring.
And I thought they were well cooked. They were good.
My mom didn't let the onion rings. She thinks they're too battery.
But, hey, hold on.
Wait a minute.
Not to accuse my mom of being a witch again, but too bat-ery?
Oh, boy.
Which as a witch maybe wouldn't make much sense.
Maybe she wanted to be more bat-ery.
She probably would want them to be more battery.
So that's maybe evidence that she's not a witch and also not a robot.
No, the timeline all lines up, because if you think about it,
it's just a couple days after Halloween, I bet they're taking new applicants.
Wow.
She's not getting the broomstick down.
They're flying all over the place.
Me and Mike, Mike, remember when that time we tried to become witches
and our broomsticks flew around the back here?
Getting the broomsticks is the trickiest part.
It'll fly out from India faster than anything you've ever seen.
Wow.
We tried really quickly, though.
Yeah.
We survived.
It was fun, though.
I recommend it.
It's a good day trip out of LA.
It's a fun date.
Oh, I loved it, too.
We had a great day trip and a great date when you and me did that, Mike.
That sounds like fun.
It sounds like a blast.
Hey, I'm not going to talk ill of it.
I do not want to be turned into a toad.
Anyways, after that...
Woo!
Yeah!
People...
People might be confused that this was recorded on Halloween
instead of Election Day.
They might not make any sense.
Is there any difference?
Thank you.
Put the diamond to the thing.
The sad thing is...
I'm not trying to make people be silly,
but if we stuff too many dimes in the monkey,
it's going to have to be euthanized
because there's going to be too many dimes.
Even the fake one?
Even the fake monkey.
We don't want that.
So I got a B-King XL meal large,
so I got the fries and a Coke.
I got a Coke with that.
I pushed in the diet button on the Coke,
so my mom would think that it was a diet Coke.
And then I got...
Man, you're the funniest.
Then I got myself...
I got myself an order of four-piece mozzarella sticks,
and that came with some marinara sauce.
They gave me marinara sauce and zesty...
Oh, boy.
They gave me the BK zesty sauce,
and they also asked for ranch,
because I also ordered the jalapenos,
the cheddar jalapeno bites,
and so I thought that the ranch would be good for those.
Mitch, is your intolerance so blind?
You just told us you ate marinara sauce
and didn't gag?
Oh, fuck.
You're fine to eat their food,
but you can't tolerate the people.
This is like an after-school special
where Mitch is like, I hate Italians,
and then he's eating marinara,
and then he's like, well, you know who makes it, right?
Oh, what? I love people.
Italians make marinara sauce?
I mean, yeah, that's where...
Yeah, that's its origin.
That's right, yeah.
I got one thing to say, Wags.
Eat shit, you stinky Italians.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
Wow, you're drilling down in.
I guess you're passionate about it.
You got to have your passions.
What, it's fucking Wario in the Italian defamation league
coming after me, Wager.
Is Wario Italian or is he German?
I don't know if he's canonically Italian.
I mean, I think the Mario brothers,
they're kind of their own thing.
The Mario brothers are Italian, Mario and Luigi.
Well, I mean, it's like, were they...
You know, if you did their 23 and Me,
would it say they're Italian? I don't know.
I mean, like, look at how they sit in
with what are supposed to be real people
in New Dogs City. They're not really humans.
I wonder if you did 23 and Me,
if you'd find any Koopa blood in there.
Wow. Oh, boy.
Luigi comes from a family of...
That.
Um...
Loquitoes.
What's the flying one in the cloud?
Yeah, loquitos.
You know, I think Luigi has some shy guy
blood in him just from his personality.
Wow.
Hey, Shigeru...
Shigeru Miyamoto,
if you're listening to this,
we got you some ideas here for free.
Miyamoto, free a charge.
Take whatever you like.
Thanks for listening. Hey, and Wags,
I know that you don't want to do the podcast
for too much longer. Two years tops. That's the cap.
Yes. After this year, two more years.
We don't have an announcement on the show.
That's messed up.
Now everyone knows. Two more years after this year.
Are you serious? You're just trying to get everyone
to be mad at me and tell me to keep doing the show.
No, that's fine. I'm kind of...
Is this like some Howard Stern-level contract negotiation
thing you're doing, Wager?
Power play? Yeah.
Patreon.com?
He wants to put... Wager is
angling to be a part of the Joe Rogan podcast
network.
I would love to sell out to Spotify.
Gotta be the dream.
Let me fucking cash in.
Gives a shit.
Before we wrap up,
also, I like Italians.
Are people gonna be mad at me?
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Why is this surprising to you now?
I'm sorry.
That's very genuine and nice.
I'm just having fun.
It's good, bitch. It's okay.
I think Irish people are pieces of shit, too.
Too?
And most of all...
And most of all, Americans are the worst.
That's true.
And hey, on that Sage note,
let's take a break.
We'll be right back with more Doe Boys.
Welcome back to Doe Boys.
We are here with Don't Stop Or Will Die,
Michael Cassidy, Paul Rust,
discussing Burger King
for the fourth time.
Paul Casserole,
let's talk about your BK orders.
Paul, we'll start with you.
Wager, I wasn't done yet.
Well, you were taking your sweet fucking time.
We'll come back to you.
You'll get another chance
to talk about Burger King.
Okay.
All right.
Paul, what did you get?
You two are the funniest pair.
Each sentence you said there
was so funny.
I had more.
You're taking your sweet ass fucking time.
We love you guys.
Yeah.
We're having fun.
So my experience,
we kind of buried the lead here.
Mike and I met
at a Burger King.
Wow.
Wow.
We did bury the lead. That's huge.
Mike was the boss
and I was going in
for a job interview.
Wait, really?
Yeah.
Wow. That's amazing.
I went in there and
Mike, you remember, I was very nervous.
Yeah.
Well, I made you jump through the hoops.
You know,
a few little extra hazing measures
to make sure you had what it takes.
Flipping the pickles.
Toasting the buns.
Now, those were
figurative words
about the
how you were hazing me.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then we became best friends
pretty much instantly.
Yeah, right at the end of the hazing
I looked at Mike and I said
will you be my best friend?
Mike said yes and I said
can I love you? And he said yes.
Wow. Wow.
That's amazing.
But outside of that
honk
digitally.
Are you still
working at the BK?
Was that someone
looking for their food?
I didn't get hired.
Oh, no. Oh, you didn't get hired.
But that might have been some of the honking at Mike to be like
hey, I'm still waiting at the drive-through.
Yes, it's true.
I thought it was like one of those
democratic rallies where they had people drive in
and then they would honk for their appreciation.
Right.
And at the end of the
joke that we worked at Burger King,
one car went honk.
Well, I don't know if you can hear the buzzing
in the background, but my mom has put
the alarm on the dryer.
So there's a buzzing coming from my
from my end as well, so I apologize.
Oh, that's okay.
Yeah.
It is not a B, luckily.
It's the buzz of a dryer.
I gotta say, this B
can't take the spin cycle.
Okay.
It's maybe a B in your dryer.
Somebody turn off the spin cycle.
Now, could it be just fly and not be,
you know, it would be fine and
would not be being flopping around in the
dryer?
What do you mean, fly in the dryer
so that it's not affected by
the tumbling?
I think he's suggesting hovering kind of in the middle.
Yes.
That's like a Mission Impossible
plot point where you have to
stay in equilibrium in the center of the chamber.
That is like a thing that Ethan Hunt would do.
Suspend it in midair.
Air is swirling around him.
Let me try and do that.
I'm doing it.
I've become master.
Wow.
You know, I'm glad we dedicated so much
of the show early on
to declaring that we're not
going to be silly today.
It really paid off.
Master makes honey.
No, okay, so
I think
I went and I got the
two cheeseburgers
which is a little bit
of Stockholm syndrome to be honest
with McDonald's.
I like that
and maybe I've fallen in love
with my captor McDonald's that I like
to get that at Burger King.
I've tried to get the whopper before
but I
had like one very traumatic experience
with a whopper trying to eat one
in the backseat of a car with a
family on vacation and was getting all
happy and gross.
So it's hard for me sometimes
to get my mind around
because that was just last week.
It really did happen to me
but when I was like in seventh grade
or something.
You know what?
I really
like Burger King
and when I have their burgers
I do like
mustard and the pickles
have this kind of
like
little kick
a little kind of a wise ass kick
and I was thinking about it.
I was like that's fitting
because McDonald's and Wendy's
seems like the
daddy and the mommy
of the restaurants
and like Burger King does feel
like a teenage, like a Bart Simpson
kind of
more mustard dude.
These pickles
might be a little sharp tasting
but they fit my attitude.
Come on boy.
Tone it down with the mustard.
Dad, you ate mustard
when you were my age.
Hey Oma, something seems to be troubling you.
Is Bart eating mustard?
It's the boy. He likes
mustard with a kick
and I like it smooth.
Hey, don't bring that mustard on the bus.
It'll get all over the seats.
Oh, Otto.
Hello, Otto.
Hey, Otto, you're not usually here
in Mo's.
But we welcome you anyway.
I guess it would probably not be the kind of image
they'd want to convey on a children's cartoon
that a school bus driver was
drinking
so they probably intentionally avoided
putting Otto.
But come and shit with us.
Yeah, come sit with us.
Bart, I don't like you
sitting with those men.
Hey, a midge.
Honey, if you're at home,
who is watching Maggie?
Maggie.
Maggie's on the cast register, man.
The whole family should have been at Mo's
is what we figured out.
That would have solved a lot of their problems.
The whole family was hanging out at Mo's.
Yes, that would have been very good.
The buzzing is driving me fucking insane.
There's buzzing at the buzzing.
No one is hearing the buzzing.
We can't hear the buzzing, Mitch.
If you can power through it,
thankfully it's not coming in on our end.
Jesus.
Mitch.
Did you murder a bee
and bury it under your floor?
This incessant buzzing.
It's true, it's true.
I killed the bee.
So, Paul, you got two cheeseburgers.
Yeah, I did.
What else did you get?
Let's talk us through the rest of your meal.
French fries.
Fries, very good.
And a shake.
What kind of shake are we talking?
Chocolate shake.
I like, let's try to do this.
I'm like a 13-year-old
that you brought in and you're asking questions.
Chocolate.
What's it to you?
Hey, you know who likes
frosted chocolate milkshakes?
Your old man.
Me, Homer.
That's right.
Dad, it's
zoo?
Can we try that again, guys? I said zoo.
Wow.
I tell you, it's a zoo in this podcast
that you guys are here.
Hee-haw! Hee-haw!
Nay.
Moo.
How could I do
different animal sounds?
We do two. I'm sorry, we do two.
You just do two?
Two sounds.
We got the bee buzz. You can toss that in there.
Three sounds.
That's all you need.
So you got the...
How are the... talk us through the fries,
talk us through the chocolate shake.
Oh, the fries are... hey, guys.
Maybe because
I've been having them more.
I've just been really...
I've been on the love train for the
Burger King. Now it might be
a bit of a case of lowered expectations
and they're never
going to enter the universe
of McDonald's,
but I do think
they are better than Wendy's.
Wow.
Interesting take.
I mean, I think it's not...
I think the Wendy's fries have gone downhill.
I don't like the potato skins on them.
They got two potatoe,
which is the dumbest move they've ever done.
I mean, I like them both.
I think there's room for both,
but hey, I don't think it's a wild take
to say that BK's fries
are better than Wendy's.
Cassidy, how about you? You said you had a few different times to Burger King.
Talk us through some of the menu items you got.
Sure.
Yeah, I did
the app,
the delivery from the app.
Wow.
And I got a whopper with cheese, no onions.
Sometimes
onions get in my way of an otherwise
just awesome slammed on the sandwich.
Thank you.
I appreciate the lack of onions.
Oh yeah, well, and Dracula
has been staying with me.
Right.
Dracula famously hates garlic.
Dracula famously hates garlic.
But I guess onions
are adjacent.
Garlic will kill him, but he just doesn't like onions.
Oh, he just doesn't. That's just a taste thing.
Yeah, why do you only see me
through that prism?
I'm sorry, Dracula.
I just don't like onions.
Maybe I just don't like sunlight.
Sorry,
no onions.
Yeah, I got a whopper with cheese,
no onions.
The fries were averaged a little
damp. I wrote some notes too.
Let's see.
And I got my kids some chicken nuggets,
and they were great. The chicken nuggets were
probably the best thing that time. Then
another morning I just needed like an ice coffee,
so I drove through a BK that was close.
And I got breakfast, which maybe doesn't
enter into this, but the eggs were wet
unlike my Sausage Egg and Cheese Biscuits.
Damp fries, wet eggs, Mike.
There's a lot of moisture.
But I got fries there. They got 24-hour fries,
which is huge points
for Burger King.
24-hour fries just seems like a damn no brainer.
I feel like, I don't know, it must be
just not cost-effective to keep the fryer
all day or something, but
these fries were better, for sure.
And then I also tried the spicy
chicken junior, and what I wrote here was
I wrote
wet eggs yuck, fries better,
spicy chicken junior, dog shit.
Wow. That's a bummer.
Really terrible.
What a disappointment. We're awesome.
I love those little hash rounds.
You gotta have the spicy chicken junior, babe.
Little
Dennis Miller.
No, sorry.
What's that?
Sammy Davis Junior.
Is this Sammy Davis Junior? Okay.
Oh, got it. Okay.
And then today I got to delivery again,
because today's the day for self-care,
and I just wanted to have it right before this.
Right. Beautiful.
And the Whopper that I got before, Paul, was very much like the one you described.
There's just like two, I think it just kind of falls apart
a little bit, or maybe that was the
the price paid for the delivery.
By the time the Whopper got here,
the bun was kind of not holding together.
Great.
But I got a Whopper, which he's been making
this time, and I tried getting extra
pickle, and it was great.
Because the pickles, who said pickles?
Was that you? I was talking pickles,
but I think Russ was talking pickles, too.
I love pickles, too. Like the pickles really were
stand out on their Whopper.
It fell apart, too, though. I mean, the sandwich doesn't hold
together, but it's really good.
And the fries this time were fantastic.
Wow.
So I got three fries
from three different places, because I got
delivery from two different places. Wow.
And today's fries were really, really good.
I got to go shut off this buzzer.
The buzzer is driving me crazy.
Okay. Do you want to shut it off?
I'm going to go shut it off.
My mom came down here to do, she put some stuff
in the dryer, and the buzzer is going fucking crazy.
We can't hear it.
I'm trying to be nuts. Your mic might be
picking it up, though. Go shut it off. Okay.
Shut it off. Yeah, it's all good, man.
Yeah, it's good, man. I'll be right back.
I'll remind you to start it when we're done.
You got the buzzing figured out, Mitch?
The B is dead.
I've put an end to the buzzing.
You killed Master? I killed Master.
Wow.
And Wigs, while I was gone,
I got some election news.
Whoa.
This will be old news by the time this episode is released,
but it's breaking news as of this record.
Carlsberg has flipped to Biden.
Wow.
The state of Carlsberg.
The state of Carlsberg has flipped to Biden.
Rarely thought of as a swing state,
historically.
I mean, this maybe just speaks to how
a Biden landslide,
if Carlsberg is in the blue cake,
you know what I mean? Yeah.
Carlsberg went from red to purple
to blue?
Anything is possible if Carlsberg
is voting for Biden. That much I can tell you.
Yeah, really, really something.
Guys, we are
writing history in wet
cement here.
Yeah.
I did want to say
that the pickles were a standout,
but on all the sandwiches I got,
the lettuce was not good.
The lettuce on these sandwiches
was...
What did you like about it?
It was just...
It was just a little
kind of a mushy-gushy
lettuce. It was not a crisp...
You need a crunch out of a piece of lettuce.
That's, I think, maybe why I appreciated the pickles
so much because I was getting that in spades
with the pickles and the lettuce didn't measure up.
Big tomato on the wall.
Burger King is kind of like rug rats for me.
Pickles is my favorite.
Wow.
Yeah, I would say that too.
If you watch Rugs Rats,
your favorite is the pickles family.
So Tommy and his mom and dad,
is that what that implies?
Well, it's weird on the app.
You can go on the Burger King app
and you put in your order and then after you order,
there's a button and it says,
are we like rug rats to you, yes or no?
Yeah.
But you know what it means.
Yeah, we know what it means.
You push a little photo
of pickles. It's a photo
realistic photograph
of photo rendering of pickles.
We're fleshy rendering.
It's very disturbing actually.
Fleshy pads.
You can get a fleshy pad that goes over your laptop
that looks like pickles so you can kiss pickles.
Cassidy kind of thing.
Kind of Zach Braff might own.
Yes.
Cassidy,
what you're saying is true.
Burger King is a lot more like stimpy.
An idiot.
Oh my god.
Christ.
Everybody is so
funny.
Well,
I do want to talk.
Go ahead, Mitch.
Zach Braff joke earlier.
Where I saw that.
Me and Smithers say
you have nothing to worry about.
I think you're fine.
We'll find out.
We'll find out.
Mr. Burns and Smithers already weighed in
so I feel fine.
Yeah, you can try. Mr. Burns is
whatever, a billionaire. You can trust him over me.
There was one other point of business
I wanted to get to.
Mitch, I know you have a little bit more food to discuss
before we get to our final thoughts,
but the commissioner of the Doe Boys
turned into a champion so the both of you know
well it was a presence on your last episode
and throughout the tournament
and throughout the run of this podcast,
Evan Susser
asked, I would say nay, insisted
that we each get the original chicken sandwich
aka the long chicken sandwich
which I relayed to everyone.
I'm not going to make this mandatory
because my comments are just, this is so simple
but always so good. It's just
a long chicken patty, breaded chicken patty
mayo and then shredded lettuce
the shredded lettuce and the one I had was good
and I just think this is a
delightful, simple sandwich.
I loved it. Did anyone else get that long chicken
sandwich? And if you didn't
get it, it means you don't respect Susser.
Oh, then I didn't get it.
No, I got it. I got that in the delivery
order today and it was
I remember getting that a bunch like when I
would go in high school and it was like
I don't remember
loving the whopper
loving burgers at Burger King
I feel like I got the chicken there when I was going there
when I was going to McDonald's I was almost always
getting either the double cheeseburger or the
two cheeseburger meal. Always burgers though
maybe nuggets
but yeah this oblong
chicken sandwich yeah it's good
it delivered the lettuce on mine
was bad I gotta tell you that and maybe that's
the price of delivery again because I did
delivery today from the app yeah and then
it asked and then I pushed
the fleshy photo realistic pickles
face at the bottom
thank you
but I did get it and
yeah it was good the lettuce
is like there's not very many
ingredients so it's tough when
there's like three
ingredients it's the huge bun
too much bun?
little bunny it's perhaps
a little bunny I guess
so but on the whopper I don't feel like the bun is like
well yeah I don't know
it was good on the
excels I feel like things get a little too bunny
it's I think the bun is in pretty decent
proportion it's perhaps just a little
shade bunny
on the original chicken sandwich
but I you know
I think some of their sandwiches can get pretty bunny
Russ did you get the long chicken
sandwich?
speaking of pretty bunnies
you and me
both brother I hear you god damn
bunnies are beautiful
that's right
pretty bunnies I agree
he's looking at a picture of babs bunny
I'm sorry Wags what was that
did you get the
original chicken sandwich the long chicken sandwich?
I did and I'm sorry
I don't respect him
original chicken sandwich
that's the name of it the original
chicken sandwich but everyone colloquially known
is the long chicken sandwich Mitch how about you do you get
with that long boy? so I'm going to talk about the
rest of my order now okay
I told you that I ordered
let me just go put on a feature
film
I'm going to go watch
Goodfellas on Mute
well
oh god wait a minute
Goodfellas is a bunch of Italians
it's a bunch of Italians Mitch
that's your favorite movie
maybe I do like Italians Wags
wow
maybe you do after all
wait didn't we do this once already
wait is this for real this time?
this time it's for real
get down on your knees and kiss a picture of the pope
hahahaha
uh
the two popes on Netflix enjoyed it
so
I got the mozzarella sticks
and I ordered the cheddar jalapeno bites
and they didn't come
and then I was going to tell you what my mom
ordered Wagger oh how about that
she got the original chicken sandwich with cheese
strange choice I thought
I think it's a fine choice
I would say that that choice to me
would positively be witching
wait a minute okay
alright
hey
I'm about to drive this bitch up to Salem
hahahaha
oh no
hahahaha
I should never call my mom the B word
that was a joke
oh man
especially when it's witch
hahahaha
you're a little devil
you're afraid of the devil and you're a little devil
look
Salem is where they executed the witches
that was the joke of that
right yes
hahahaha
I got the original chicken sandwich
and she got it with cheese and then
she also got a Whopper with cheese
and she liked her Whopper with cheese
she thought it was good she also thought the fries
were the best wags and she didn't
she thought that the chicken sandwich all tasted the same
and I think that the cheese was an issue
she said that it would be better without the cheese
so I think the cheese was an issue
but wise on my return
from Los Angeles to back to Quincy
I also got
some Burger King
my first night back
Dano drove me through the drive through
wow
and also a lady this was very strange
but
a lady
when we pulled up to the drive through this is true
and I will get Dano on to confirm this
a lady had a metal pole
hahahaha
and on the bottom of it was a dog food dish
hahahaha
we put it on the ground before our car
drove up to the window
and we don't understand what it was
for
hahahaha
they're doing that nationally
hahahaha
and also they had like
to protect the workers
they had like a thing cut out
like a
like a thing cut out to like
plexiglass or whatever
but you couldn't see through it so you couldn't see
like it was like you couldn't see anyone
it was very strange
hahahaha
but
she did she slammed the ground with this dish
with the pole with the dish on the end of it
it was very
was this a worker or was this just a random person
yes it was no it was the lady at the
drive through window
wait we put it on the ground in front of your car
she put it on the ground in front of our car yes
huh
and then you drove over it to get to the drive through window
no it was just before like she stamped it on the
she like stamped it on the ground
hahahaha
and then we drove up as she pulled it back inside and then we drove up
and then she
she stamped it on the ground after we drove by
too
hmm
that's actually good because I think if she had tapped it
twice your car would have started going
backwards dude I wonder if there's something
about like they have sensors under the
the drive
oh good
there's a car there or something
and she was like smacking a sensor or something
wow that could be it
that's probably it but I know
what I think I maybe know what it could be
is also you know Mitch if your mom is
becoming you've seen hereditary right
mm-hmm
they're kind of all witnessing weird things going
on around them as the occult sort of
forms I think that was like
your mom's friend being like he is
the son of the one who
eats
uh burger king
I mean it's a theory I'm about to drive
I'm about to drop this lady off at Salem
that's more like it
PG version
the TV edit version
so that on that trip I got the long chicken
sandwich which sus required
and I got myself a coca-cola
I got a I got a whopper with cheese
meal with the fries and the coca-cola
the fries drank it proudly without the
diet stamp pushed in
that is right because my mom was not there
she was quarantining at my sister's house
and that wags was uh
that that the whopper I loved
the whopper with cheese I really had a great time with it
nice coke nice fries
the long chicken sandwich was good but not as good
as I remember it so Susser that was stupid
um and uh
but overall a pretty
positive experience we declare that BK
is back in many ways
there was one other thing I got today I got the
Hershey Sunday pie
ooh how was that? Extremely sweet
but very very very good
if anyone ever wants to try it's very
it's very fun
very sweet but but but very fun
well there you go
and hey you know it's been very fun spending time
with our guest don't stop
or we'll die but you know what it's time to get to our
final thoughts here on the Doe Boys
podcast so we're just gonna go around
we're going to give our
assessment of this chain
summarize our thoughts and then end by giving it
a fork score zero to five forks
uh Mike Cassidy
we'll begin with you
okay um
I've been to Burger King a lot in my life
like I said probably third or fourth
in the pecking order
all time wow just frequency
of visit
from childhood to adulthood
um
BK is one of the places that I go to
kind of only when I'm like moving
so this felt appropriate like I said
um
the
the original chicken sandwich
was good
that whopper with cheese is a great sandwich
it did fall apart but it didn't bother me
it was sloppy like
not in a terrible way
and I would order it with extra pickles again
that's a good hack that I learned that I enjoyed
the pickles were great they let us not so much
the breakfast doesn't count
but the eggs were wet
all day it's almost like you get a
tine or two just for offering fries
all day and having them not
be shitty in the morning because I got
fries and the fries that I got
um that were the worst were the
fries that I got at night
the morning fries were good interesting
and I also really like those hash rounds
which whatever I'm not gonna let it sway
my score we'll make it a dinner-centric
score
oh man I didn't know I would go first
hmm
um
yeah it's it's not
the most delicious
like food like the
burgers are good
they're good like it was nothing
was nothing was gross nothing was cold
nothing came out wrong
and the fries really
are good you guys better than Wendy's I think
that's okay to say I think I'm actually fully
on board because Wendy's I there's
you know we've discussed it here
and elsewhere there's like we we have special
little little atria
in our hearts for just for
Wendy's um and I love
Wendy's but the fries are not necessarily
like you know
it's okay that the fries suck like Wendy's
my love for Wendy's surpasses their fries
it's not it was never really
the fries were never really the most consistent thing about
Wendy's anyways right um
yeah in spite of not because of
yeah that's right
I'm looking at other things when I go to Wendy's
um
but I don't know it's reliable
like I after like I went
too much for this podcast
because it's you know COVID times and election
times and I just you know
you do the things that make you feel good come on
just be easy on yourself everybody
just be easy on yourself treat yourself
right self-care
and it's just a meal or two don't
let it you know consume
you but eating Burger King's three times
in three days has taught me that
I'll probably like trust it more
I think like
I'll go into a Burger King drive-through
if it's between that and Jack in the box
even maybe but sometimes if it's between
that
and McDonald's sometimes definitely over Carl
Carl's junior sorry
um
okay I'm gonna say
I'm gonna say three and a half
wow three forks two
times nice very good score
for Burger King
take away any chance of a Golden Plate Club
appearance from Burger King
yes not meet the minimum threshold
for the Golden Plate Club which is four forks
or greater Paul rest your thoughts your score
one to five forks
yes
um okay
I
just love
the name I think
Burger King is a very cool
name
I think I've ever disagreed with anything
it's done
aesthetically
always looks real cool
bk Burger King the colors
love it
um
and uh
I feel like out of all the institutions
it's the one that
has the most ease
with change
case in point the fries
but uh also
sort of like an adventurous
spirit
that I uh that I appreciate
how could I forget though
the sesame seed buns
and yeah
and you mentioned the Charles
the Charles burger the Charles
broiled burger
which
I would say those are probably like two defining
features that are really good and whether
they mess up the burger or not
uh you still get some sesame seeds
and you still get the taste of a little grill
um
so
I love Burger King
um
four forks
wow four forks four forks
very good score from Paul Rust
Mitch what do you say
what do you say Night Spoon
well Wags
I
I have a lot of history with Burger King
um
or Hungry Jack
as he called it Down Under as he said
hello Down Under
we love that thank you
it's an honor
flattering
you can hear the Australians yelling from
beneath the earth Wags
I just realized they don't have to change
the logos are the same amount of
letters
of Burger King
really yeah so like it's probably
easy just to swap in the letters you don't
have to change any of the formatting font
size and what not
Hungry Jack
Burger King
wow I didn't even think about that
and the and the G
is in the exact same spot
that's what it was wow that's probably
what it was they can reuse that G
those trick save money
those those tricky fucking
Aussies
I know Mitch
oh boy
another continent
you know what Italians ain't too bad
but I hate Down Under
in fact he started this whole thing
as an homage to them
when I flush my shit
I hope it goes Down Under I hope it all lands
in Australia what
of course it does how else would that work
yeah it's called gravity
yeah you like
if we cut to like just directly
through the earth from you
in Australia and like
a kangaroo looks up and
like
and your waist
spills down on the Roo's head
good and the Roo goes
only Down Under
good
for I love Italians
and dislike Australians now that's the
lesson you have all taught me that's canon
boy
that's canon
I
the big question wigs is BK
back now BK for a long
time I loved it I'd like to get
go in there and I'd get a whopper with cheese
meal and I'd get a slice
of apple pie which I used to really like
and
I had a good time in BK
back in the days I really enjoyed it
is it back
it's getting there if you ask me why I think
it's I think it's very very good
um
I think that I think it's improved
I think it has improved since we started the podcast
I'm not lying for sure
um
and so yes in a way it is back
and I look forward
I feel the same way I think BK is always
fun to get like a whopper from if you're like
a lot of the times when I'm
Christmas Eve and I'm Christmas shopping I'll get a whopper
on Christmas Eve I'll go and get a whopper
uh
there's a lot of stuff that I love about it
but
it's not the top tier
to me yet
I'm gonna go 3.75
forks
it's almost in there
Paul and I
my score has probably gone down
but I
you know what
I mean I really had a good time with it
and I really liked some stuff
I almost want to say 4 forks with Paul
in fact I will say
4 forks with Paul
4 forks
you've gone from being ballpark buds to being in the
hand-holding club with rustman
Mitch one thing though
on Christmas Eve when you're
going through
the drive-thru
at Burger King do you ever hear a little clop-clop-clop
of hooves on the roof
of the Burger King
yes it's the lady with
putting the can on the roof
with the dish
with the dog dish
it was very bizarre
and then she jumps down the chimney
and
that gives me my order
and Australians shit falls on her head
4
that is what happens to me on Christmas Eve at Burger King
every minute of it
it's 4 forks Cassidy
4 forks
good score
from the night spoon Mike Mitchell
so I made another visit
to Burger King today
and it was not for the podcast
I was just like I want a fun lunch today
and I just decided you know what I want Burger King
in fact I was prepping this today's episode
I was putting my little outline together
interesting did you put it on the Burger King
did you put it on the Doe Boys card your Burger King order
yeah I did put it on the Doe Boys card
so it was for the podcast
so this was a fun thing
hey have you gotten your money back
from Denny's yet
I'm working on it it's election day
that's fucking bullshit
so
why don't order from a mystery Denny's
that didn't exist
oh yeah I heard this
yeah you like
$80
from you right and they were just like
oh yeah and he simply hasn't
just gone to get his money sent to
I gotta call him I gotta call him back
I'll do it I said I'll do it
make it your top priority I would
say don't even vote just do that
you know what
there's one thing wise before you before you
go back into your view I do gotta say this
there is one thing that I do I do want to say
um
Mike has sent me this text today
of Burger King
and uh it was it was it's from
the Burger King in the UK I believe
but they tweeted out a statement
and I thought and this is why and this is
part of the reason I'm pushing my fork score to four
yeah it says
so this was on November 2nd
and Burger King tweeted out
we know they this is the tweet
we know we never thought we know
we sorry I gotta read this correctly
okay we know we never thought
we'd be saying this either and then it said
and then there was a picture in the tweet
and it said order from McDonald's
and it said we never thought we'd be
asking you to do this just like we never
thought we'd be encouraging you to order
from KFC Subway, Domino's Pizza, Pizza Hut,
Five Guys, Gregg's, Taco Bell,
Papa John's, Leon
or any other independent
food outlets too numerous to mention
here in short from
any of our sister food chains fast
or not so fast we thought we'd be
asking we never thought we'd ask you to
do this but restaurants employing
thousands of staff really need your support at the moment
so if you want to help keep
treating yourself to tasty meals through
home delivery take away or drive through
getting a Whopper is always best but ordering
a Big Mac is also not such
a bad thing take care
team Burger King
UK
and and so for that reason
I pushed it to four look I know that they're
jeez that's good what if I might
that's worth a
time I think for me
wow I think I think I'm going back and I'm
going to say
three and three quarters wow
that's beautiful
that's cool that they did probably
making money on it somehow but it seems
yeah yeah there's huge
corporation I know I know I know
but I thought that it was kind of a nice
sentiment yeah it's awesome
yeah
I'm yeah it's like
when they do those
with do those old ads where like
C3PO is like
congrats ET on
being box office Baffo
right yeah
they did one where it was the Titanic
with the Star Wars characters were going down
on the Titanic that was a lot of fun
they were going like
they were giving head to the Titanic
yeah Titanic had a big old hog
yeah C3PO
I think it showed the like kind of
the four imprints from where
Alph had been there before yeah
oh can you imagine
the Titanic that night
honey
believe me it never happens I never run
into an iceberg that's what you said
last week Murray
I have a quick question
the Titanic's name is Murray
Ask James Cameron yeah
yeah
the shark from Jaws is Bruce
the ship from the Titanic
is Murray
more canon
so what's canon
Diane canon
that's Diane canon
speaking of which
I had an idea
when I was thinking through Burger King I had something of an epiphany
and if you'll indulge in extended
metaphor I was thinking about
Mitch our journey
over the course of the podcast with Burger King
from a tepid response with John Roy
to outright hatred with
Jordan Morris where we were
in one fork territory just a miserable experience
to a huge
upswing back with Haley Mancini
and again we're in this very positive
territory with don't stop or we'll die
it makes me
think of the last half decade
or so
of my beloved Los Angeles Lakers
where
this team was in the wilderness
and we were trying to
in the lottery
a team
that's always in the playoffs
that's frequently in the finals
in the draft lottery
staking our hopes on Jordan Hill
hoping that maybe Kendall Marshall
Ramon Sessions, Robert Socrates
one of these guys
just can put it together and we can assemble
maybe even just an eight seed
just trying to angle for an eight seed
and then you know what happens
the king
LeBron James
comes to the city of angels
sucks
and
the king is back in LA
and the king is back in terms of Burger King
because the Los Angeles Lakers are NBA
champions
and Burger King I think is
a delightful restaurant to eat at
that's reliable and consistent
and has some dynamite menu items
and they're improving
on a lot of facets
of their game
so I am going to say
that
by the way today I get the Steakhouse King
which is good
usually Steakhouse Burger I don't love
but this one didn't have too much Steakhouse steak sauce
so it was good
I am going to say based on my collective experiences
at Burger King I think this one
belongs in the Golden Play Club
it will not quite get there because our collective scores
I am going to give it four forks
just like the Lakers championship is kind of an asterisk
give me that asterisk
I'll take the asterisk
it was a wild season
it was a wild year
the Lakers championship
deserves an asterisk for sure
so people can be reminded of how
bananas the bubble was
of how bananas 2020 was all around
but you know what
happy ending in the NBA
happy ending in the MLB if you're a fan here in LA
if you're a fan of democracy
hopefully a happy ending
in our presidential election
four forks for Burger King
just on the outside looking in
of the Golden Play Club
are you happy Cassidy?
I mean
I don't have emotions about it at all
I think that's the point, Mitch
this is democracy
I'm trying to be objective about
the food that went into my body
my temple
are you telling me to not take that seriously?
I apologize
it's okay
and honestly I do stand by it
and I hear you guys and I think the Burger King is great
but
it didn't quite get there
I admire your adherence
to your values
and saying this what you believe
leave him alone, thank you
leave Michael alone
leave Michael alone
leave Michael alone
leave Michael alone
yeah, they're gonna come
they're gonna come for me, I know what I was doing coming here
mm-hmm
they're gonna come for us
Paul, were you doing the leave Brittany alone character?
yes, it happened last week
right?
meaning
two weeks from now
minus a week
Paul I do like Burger King too
you said that's a cool name I think
Burger King is great
it's just like a
it could be in a movie and it's like
what you make up for the name of the fast food chain
Burger King, it's perfect
it's ostentatious and I think it is correct
Burger King
good outing once again
it's time for a segment
Burger Burger Burger
we've got a set of fast food jingles
and you each have to guess
what year they're from
it's another edition of Jingle all the way
spelled W-E-I-G-H
so here's what's going to happen
last time I heard this
I thought you were discussing that you might use
W-H-E-Y
oh yeah that's right
we never settled on what we're going to do
I'm sorry I'm just interrupting I should let you
go ahead
we never settled on it
you know what
I'm going to say it's W-H-E-Y
we're going with it
it's W-H-E-Y
that's canon
so Emma will play each Jingle
and then you each will
guess the year whoever gets closest
without going over gets a point prices right style
and there's also the Arden Marine Rule
which is if you get the year on the dot
you get a bonus points you get two points
so we got a few of these
these are compiled by our associate producer
the Drop King Robert Persinger and these are all Burger King
Jingles from various years
we got an email from Arden
a cease and desist not call it the Arden Rule
oh
wow Arden said that
wow
wow she's so nice
I guess you got to stay on your ground though
yeah it's true
well we'll play
these Jingles these are Burger King Jingles
and you each will guess the year
so let's begin
with this first jingle Emma if you want to share this one
they did it
adorable little girl saying
they did it at the end so
meaning off of a bridge
don't stop or we'll die we'd kill to write a jammer like that
it's a great jingle
so Mitch we'll begin with you
I hope that young blonde girl didn't grow up to be a Karen Wags
well it sounds like you have some idea of what her age range might be
based off of that Mitch
what year do you think that commercial came out
now to me
to give a nod to one of our guests
other podcast
um
in Jason we trust
now in Kruger we trust
mmm
oh and Voorhees we trust sorry
um
that to me looked like Jason
that looked like when Jason was
just started his killings
I feel like I feel like that is like
a 1980 commercial
I feel like that
Mitch that's so crazy I used
uh for a 13th
movie as a way to get my
I was like what kind of style do they
that's funny so I maybe
maybe the first one because
is the first one in 1980 Paul you would know this
I've yes I think the first one's
I think that it's 1980
it's just like better quality obviously then
but could it be earlier
could it be later I'm gonna go
my best buddy Justin loves that
podcast by the way Paul so
that's nice he should listen to don't stop
or we'll die song a week yes I'm sure he
will um
I'm gonna go 1980
if 1980
80 on the button I'm sure he's gonna
as we as we will be to we will be
we I'll definitely be subscribing
very excited for song a week we'll
hear more about that later a rust man
what do you think
what year did this commercial come out
okay so
um
I like
Friday 30 I I it looked
like it to me it was between parts 2
and 3 wow okay wow
so I put it
at part 3 I think came out in
82
so uh
I'm gonna say 1982
wow 1982 the birth year
of our own night spoon Mike Mitchell
that's right we're to think
about that that Jason has been around has been
menacing teenagers horny teenagers
our entire lives that's
longer than Mitch has
my mom and my you know what Paul you might
be right because my mom said
that she was near TV and that burger
King commercials came on and I got like really
interested and I started
I started to climb out of the womb
climb
that's all right Cassidy
what do you think 1980
1982 are their guesses for this
this is really tough and for the listener
it is really a visual
judgment that I'm making
I think the music actually sounds
jingly
I it sounds earlier
than it looks yeah it sounds
cornier than yeah it sounds
like a song from the 70s
my idea Cassidy you're either going to go
1979 or 1981
or I mean you can do anything you want to
79 was was the year that
I was going to pick before you said
80 so I'm not just being a prices rate
shit heel wow
and I don't
know maybe that's maybe
it's really hard to tell but
the clothes the logo
it's definitely
man this is really hard
I was going to say 1979 though
and it's not just me like Javel
that's my true and honest guess
you're also big smashing from the outside
yes
Cassidy you could say
yay
you could say 1970 and win too
if it's in the 70s just to
that's true yeah the real prices
right move would be 0 AD
yes so that's true
I really think it's 1979
1979 is your guess
I like to be on the nose
your boldness
pays off wow
Cassidy because you got the year right on the
dot which means you get a bonus point
wow 79
two points for Cassidy
1979
well done
let's play this next
let's play the second one
congrats to you Cassidy
what
that was
that was Billy
that was Billy Corgan
yes
okay
thank you
thank you
let's play the second one
come
and get it
okay
so some definite clues there
visually for our listeners
one is the presence of
hoody and the blowfish frontman
Darius Rucker singing that
jingle
the other is that the
that we uh
there was another visual clue in there
what am I missing oh the king himself
the new the burger king
mascot was also a presence
you don't have to give all the clues away
does Alex Trebek give a little hints
our listeners can't see the video
I'm trying to paint a picture
oh that's right
oh the poor listener
yes yes right
oh
pull over the side of the road and google it
alright rest we'll start with you this time
what year do you think
this ad came out
well that ad looks like
um
the uh burger king
advertising agency
saw a little alt comedy
yes
with the ironic use of Darius
uh Rucker and uh
we're in on the joke
right
fuck you
uh so I'm gonna put that
level of maybe the most
obnoxious form of advertising
at
2011
2011 for the rustman
you know ruckers should be a pitch for
fud ruckers
that's right
that would be a natural fit
or as long as John Silver's hoody in the blowfish
there you go either is a good option
Cassidy what do you think
yeah this is definitely
awful to watch
terrible to listen to
not doesn't sell cheeseburgers
it's after
big rock candy mountain that they're spoofing
big rock candy mountain exactly
yeah they're making fun of it
but it's awesome song
yeah also that song was in the zeitgeist
with the with a cone brother's
movie which might also be a clue
perhaps well and it's after
the carls jr sexy
commercials seems like because they got like
scantily clad character
character
costumed women with big burgers
jumping around with cleavage and stuff
and you know I hate cleavage
you guys know that
you know that about me
it's true we know this
I want my cleavage in one place
I want my cleavage in one room and my burgers
in another thank you
um
one's the bedroom and it ain't the cleavage one
I'm afraid
I think
2011 is a really good guess
because it's new yeah I don't remember how long
that burger king like the
was that do you think that burger king mascot
was a reaction to the jack in the box guy
or was it the other way around
I think it's a jack in the box that has a little
mask head but it's a human guy
that's a good question it's eminently possible
because a jack in the box I think was the first one of those
ironic self-aware fast food
mascots but a jack in the box also a regional
chain and burger king
some burger king ad guys may have seen that
and been like hey we can take that nationwide
yeah it's off-putting I don't like it
um I'm gonna say
2000 and
I'm gonna say
man this is
um okay
yeah
2012
2012
alright
both in the first part of this past
decade I bet that's way over it but it's
it's good I got two points I'm just kind of
sitting pretty right now
well night spoon if you get the year on the dot
you can tie up Cassidy or you can at least get
some points on the board by getting closest without
going over prices right style
what do you think for this tender crisp bacon
cheddar ranch commercial with Darius Rucker
what year
well
guys I uh
I tell you that I uh
I know when this came out
I know the time when this came out
I'm by the way I was
so I'm texting my friend Luke
Luke Michaels
Luke Michaels hi Luke
and um
and he sent me a t-shirt for
uh unprecedented
times dot shop he's selling t-shirts
so I'm gonna push he's my friend I'm pushing
his website
and check it out and get a t-shirt
the plug is strong with you Luke
er
president like the president of the united
edtimes.com
dot shop anyways what a great plug
why you fucked it up
I did fuck it up bad anyways
Luke Luke always
sang this song in college
uh no
and so power over
I'm almost like 100% sure that it's
2003 or 2004
oh my god
but since I don't want to
blow it by guessing
I'm not gonna go for the two points wigs
look
there's nothing I can do
I'm gonna pick 2002
wow
going really low
well Mitch you weren't both with the year and his
voice
you were in fact too early
but you were the
only one who didn't go over it was
2005
oh it was 2005
that self aware sort of
internet video derived
marketing has been around it's been with us for that long
man that burger king guy has been around that long
that's been around for that long
for 15 years
see I wasn't sure if it was my junior
or senior so it was definitely my senior year
here's the thing we went and we
I'm embarrassed my cultural meter
is just broken look at that
I had no idea
wronger direction
and also we went to burger king
to get this we went to get these and there was also
a Kong triple whopper which was
three whopper patties
oh yeah for the movie king
Peter Jackson's Kong
and my friend Evan Novik
Evan Novik he
you could double the meat and he tried to double the
meat to get six patties
but he only got a fourth
and so he won four patties
and there's a banana peel in between
each patty
there was a banana peel
between each patty but
that sandwich sucked
we liked that commercial a lot
because we thought the song was fun
and then the sandwich
itself sucked
and also in hindsight
the commercial kind of sucks too
are you talking about the one we just watched
yeah that was the
but they weren't advertising the Kong burger there
no I'm saying that the chicken
bacon ranch sandwich was not good
that sandwich sucked
I was confused
it sounds like just really
a desperate sandwich
yeah too much going on
ungepochka if you will
we've got a couple more
we're gonna do let's play this third one Emma
that's funny
that's funny
another ad that ends in a freeze frame
we've got a
slalaming going on, ski slalaming
around some burger king flags
as well as an early iteration
of the king
mascot you can probably also tell that it's a little
bit earlier just from how it sounds
alright Cassidy it falls to you
your guess
on the year of this particular ad
the ad is titled habit your way
it's such a gum commercial
right isn't this like a double mint gum
thing 100%
it's like all I could think about
yeah
it feels like it's earlier than the other one
but I wonder if that's a trick
the weird
early burger mask thing
was very strange
yeah there's a burger king villain there too
who's the burger king villain
what's the mythology there
is there an evil king
of a different kingdom
it's a Mitchell
spinach king
it's one of Mitch's ancestors
my ancestry.com is just a picture of that guy
hmm
gosh
it's really tempting to say that this one is earlier
because it feels older
I'm not gonna do that though
I'm gonna say 1982
82
hmm
so again when Jason Voorhees
is terrorizing horned up teenagers
might spoon what do you think
when did this ad come out
I think I gotta go earlier than Cassidy
if I'm gonna try to get a win here
82 is a good guy
I think this could be a sneaky 80s one
but I'm gonna go 1975
wow
1975
I'm playing for the night spoon Mike Mitchell
I'm playing for the win Wags
that's strategic
firmly back in the generation X
nostalgia
world
Paul Rust what's your guess
what year did this commercial come out
have it your way
in the spirit of
with Gorley and Russ Mack
Gorley is a big Michael Myers fan
he came out in 1978 with Halloween
so I'll say 1978
because that
Burger King mask
I don't know what's scarier that or the Michael Myers mask
I think the Mike Myers one
yeah the Mike Myers mask
well you all overshot it
that was in fact
1974
1974
man you almost had it
fuck
oh wait was that the third one
yeah that was the third one
I was wrong actually I was reading the wrong one
that one was
1981
so that means that Russ you're on the board
damn
he over did it
we need to skip the next one
he gave away what year that came out in
I said it
let's skip to the very last one
wow
and Wiger what year is this from
well you'll have to tell me
damn I thought I could get ya
Wags I hope the election isn't this
tight man this is crazy
is it a tight race between us right now
I guess so yeah it is
Mitch has one
Paul has one and Cassidy has two
because of the art and green rule
great victory level
let's see this last one
got the hungries
for hungry jacks
wow
for those of you listening
that was a yeah
a lot of cool Aussie youth
you know a convertible
a dog that was in the car
which was very cool and a weird end to that spot
where a big lump of shit
fell on a kangaroo's head
but Mitch you're up now
what year did this ad come out
what year did this ad come out
what year did this ad come out
what year did this ad come out
what year did this ad come out
what year did this ad come out
now
I'm tempted because
Australians are so far behind the time
I'm tempted to guess 2020
those dumb fucks down under
Jesus
but I'm gonna go Wags
1992
1992
damn
alright
Rustman what do you think
I was gonna guess 92
so let's do 93
wow
that's a Bryce's right move
oh it is I just meant it because that's my
sincere sorry whatever
no I think that's not bad
I'm listed
alright casserole
what do you think
you can clinch it right now
man
both of those moves
are what I would have done had I gone
first or second here
wow
I really think 92 is a really
I think that's a really solid
choice
yeah I had that thought too
maybe they're a little like a little behind
it's so 90's though
it's hard to go any earlier than 90
has to be like the very earliest
alright I'll see 1990
wow
1990
I'm hoping the Australians are ahead of the cultural curve
and this is like actually 1965 or something
yeah this was the air we landed on the moon
introducing hip hop
you guys were all in the right
ballpark
but the man who came closest
and ties
for the win
for this week's edition
well jingle all the way
spelled W-H-E-Y now
Paul Rust
1994 was the year
don't stop or we'll die
both tie with two points of ease
hey don't stop or we'll tie
hey
that was really good
by the way you were wrong about the sign
it's
it's jacks
it is jacks
and it's got the apostrophe in there
is it not burger
I don't know what the hell you were even thinking
is it not burger kings
oh you're having a laugh
I'm having a laugh with you
hey
I gotta put a dime in the monkeys butt
hey hold on
monkeys getting fucking rock hard
also speaking to the monkey
speaking to the monkey sounds
um
I'd like to think that
when you were hearing the dryer buzzing
that was the singularity bringing
bug main into this episode
oh boy
oh no
land into your home where you sleep
don't say his name two more times
bug main
bugle main
bugle main
buzz buzz
Paul
oh boy
just like a restaurant
we allow your feedback let's open up the feedback
and today we have an email from Brian
Brian writes
my question for you is
what is your most gluttonous
food memory
most gluttonous food memory
in advance of Thanksgiving
this is our last full Doe Boys episode
before the Thanksgiving holiday
gluttonous food memory
I have one that comes to mind while you guys think about it
and this is pretty clear
this is from high school
and it's also a fast food burger thing
I went to
our beloved Carl's Junior Hardee
you and me Mitch
and I got myself a double western bacon cheese burger
and
whatever the biggest size at the time was
I don't know if they were doing an XL size
or whatever but it's a big ass size
with their biggest Dr Pepper
their biggest fries
double western bacon cheese burger
came home ate that, ate the fries
and then made myself a box
of Kraft macaroni and cheese
and ate the entire box
of Kraft mac and cheese and drank the soda
and that was my after school meal one day
so that's my
they'll pass you by
honestly
so much better than so much of what has happened to me over the past decade
it was like such a great day
in comparison
you got me thinking about college again
we used to get at Wings over Ithaca
we used to get carriers
which were like 250 wings or something
and there'd be like
whatever like 8 of us
just like sitting around a big
fucking
tub of wings on a table
just eating them
greasy and farting room full of men
basically
8
Mitch like
as far as alien resurrection
I was the most fucked up Mitch clone
but there were better Mitch's
that's a big one
my answer to this one is
hey man, my next meal
you know what I mean
I am
going further back
when I was a kid
I had a paper route for like 3 months
and then I stopped doing it
and I was a total coward about it
but on my paper route was
hardies
that was the end of my paper route was hardies
and
and it was just like
opening up with biscuit smells
at that time
because I think they opened at 6 and I would be just finishing
maybe I just did it at 630 or something
and I don't know if this was a prevalent
thing at Carl's Jr. or hardies
but at this hardies and a lot of them in Iowa
where Paul and I are from
on Sunday
they had
all you can eat
biscuits and gravy
and you could order biscuits and gravy
and just keep going up
and getting it
and I had a couple of mornings
where I
had an awful amount of biscuits
and like I got sick from it
because it was really good that was one of my favorite things there
for breakfast I think that was maybe my number
one thing at hardies
it's easy to get sick on biscuits
and gravy
the heaviest shit in the world
and it's like my body had been
awake for 25 minutes
and I'm just pounding
solid mass
into my stomach undigestible
gravy
I remember that getting
really looking forward to Sundays
because these are good memories
that's great
I love biscuits and gravy so much
and I loved it as a kid
I would have loved that if I was presented with that opportunity
wow
what a gift
I just wanted to give a shout out to last year
I was at Morimoto's
and like
Downtown Disney, Disney Springs or whatever it is
in Florida
we had Thanksgiving dinner there
and that was a giant feast
we had peaking turkey
it was fantastic
and a bunch of other stuff
hope you didn't have any roast mouse
not at Disney
they wouldn't roast up any of the mice
no
but I'm trying to think of a big meal
and I know that there's more than that
hey, may everyone have a nice
Thanksgiving out there
in these difficult times
great wishes
from the Night Spoon
most gluttonous food memory
rather
don't stop or we'll die
also wishes everyone a happy Thanksgiving
what a great holiday
don't stop wishing them
an even happier Thanksgiving
we hope that you have
even more food than they hope
wow
that's not a competition
good will towards men
rooting for each other
we got to get through this together
I don't know if this was the most I ate
but I certainly felt based on
the reaction of the
people working at
the place I was eating at
I must have eaten a lot
because I remember I was finishing up the lunch
at KFC
and the manager went over
as I was finishing up the lunch
and he was locking up the door
and I said
you're closing, it's only 2.30
we're closing for business
wow
we're closing the business
for good
we brought out of food
you've eaten so much
we're shuttering the business
now, Paul, did this happen?
it was either this
it Dave Berg's
in the lighter side of
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Brian the dog you mean?
I mean, he didn't include
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we were like, hey, you know
we love writing songs
and we have actually a hard time figuring out
which ones we're gonna put
towards an album or not
and then we thought, you know what
if we do a podcast where we do a song a week
we get to put these songs out
and have fun and get to be creative
and yeah
we just wanna share the music
fun with folks, right Mikey?
yeah, it's songs
exactly like Paul said, they could be on albums
but instead we're just gonna pop one off a week
and
those are free
wherever you get podcasts
check out song a week, listen and subscribe
there's two episodes out
by the time this
Doughboys is coming out
and we're releasing on Wednesdays
and if you want
on the Patreon
you know how this goes
Doughboys folks
you can go and get the
songs as an mp3 download that way
so it's like our own little iTunes over there
you basically buy on a bucket track
or you can even
get other special surprises
you get bonus episodes
and you could even
get your name
sung into sing song
by us on one of the podcast episodes
wow
tons of goodies, it's a real hoot nanny
yeah we're gonna and most of all
just getting songs out exactly like Paul said
we wanna get some music out there
and uh
have a fun and silly time
that doesn't
constantly remind us of the challenges
of the world around us
we just have fun man
that's right because Nick and
Mitch are such
sweethearts they also are letting us
play the second song that just came out
yesterday at the end of this episode
so thank y'all
here's a little sneaky peeky
that's right we're gonna play a little bit of that
and guys thank you so much
Mitch's mom I think would say
yes peeking
she's allowing peeking for this one instance
can you just get her to say that on mic real quick
maa
are you actually gonna get her to come down here
I just gonna throw the vacuum next
hahahaha
oh my gosh
for people who make drops
having your mom say no peeking
on mic will just be
a game changer
wait no not landmine that's a goldmine
we did that on a live show at some point
but uh the uh
we could have it on podcast quality here
um
you guys can see right now
in the zoom I went upstairs
and she was uh mixing a cauldron
and as you can see she turned me into a toad
you look great
I wasn't even gonna mention it
you look amazing man
uh by the way
I've added up um
the uh the
I had to kiss a lot of toads to meet my prince
hahahaha
I've uh I've added up
the tally from the silly jar
mm-hmm
and it comes out to
three dollars
hahahaha
the least silliest number
oh guys before we sign off
that's a lot of dimes
I know this is gonna be dated and everything
but um
before we sign off the state of carlsberg
is that in a dead heat it's even
wow wow oh my
this is shades of florida 2000
we're gonna donate that three dollars
so if you see a donation
hopefully to trump from dow boys
that is what it's about
did somebody say the
the strategy of florida 2000
oh no
w
I just want to thank mitch for that vote
oh I should never have voted for you
hey I wish you would have gotten yarrow
hahahaha
that'll do it for this episode of dow boys
until next time for the night spoon mic mitchell
I'm nick weiger happy eating
bye bye
thank you
I see a cactus
here I see a cactus
there I see a cactus
here I see a cactus
there
I think
your look very
handsome
in this photo
I think
you look very handsome
in this photo
I am a saver
at heart
I am a saver
at heart
I am a saver
at heart
I am a saver
at heart
I think
you look very
handsome
in this
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photograph
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