Doughboys - Burger King 5 with Sam Richardson

Episode Date: July 1, 2021

Sam Richardson (Veep, Detroiters, Werewolves Within, I Think You Should Leave, The Tomorrow War) joins the 'boys for a review of Burger King and a Detroit edition of Slop Quiz. Plus, an interview with... Chris Pratt.Sources for this week's intro:https://www.mashed.com/250635/the-wild-story-behind-the-burger-king-mascot/https://www.businessinsider.com/the-collapse-of-storied-ad-agency-crispin-porter-bogusky-2020-12https://www.forbes.com/sites/avidan/2020/11/09/in-a-cautionary-tale-for-madison-avenue-cpb-once-its-brightest-star-went-from-hothouse-to-doghouse/?sh=46ab5ef92bc9https://www.wired.com/2006/12/burger-king-serves-up-tasty-games/https://egmnow.com/sneaky-good-looking-back-on-the-burger-king-advergames/Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:58 Coming up today, that link that you want to click on is down there in the episode description. Right down there. Check it out. There it is. Move your cursor, go ahead and click, or if you're on your phone, use your finger and click that link. Click that link in the episode description. You probably don't know the names Crispin, Porter, and Bogosky, but if you were watching
Starting point is 00:01:25 American commercial television in the aughts, you were no doubt exposed to their work. The trio's eponymous ad agency first made a splash in 1999 with their teen-driven anti-tobacco truth campaign. Buied by this success, these dot-com era madmen cravenly pivoted from protecting to harming the health of Americans by accepting a trio of fast food clients, Arby's, Domino's, and the second biggest burger chain in the world, the Regal Pepsi to McDonald's Coke. After their guidance, the hamburger sandwich restaurant completely reinvented its brand from dull, staid also ran to self-aware Edgelord, chiefly through their rebooted, internet-ready
Starting point is 00:02:01 mascot, a plastic-headed monarch named the King. No doubt inspired by the success of Jack in the Box's CEO Jack ads. Outside of his meta, often unsettling TV commercials, a harbinger for the future of ads in general, the King even starred in a trio of promotional video games developed in concert with fellow agency client Microsoft. All action titles Big Bumpin' and Pocket Bike Caracer and Stealth Surprise Meal Simulator Sneak King. Today, the chain's advertising is overseen by a new agency, McGarry Bowen, and the firm
Starting point is 00:02:32 of Crispin, Porter, and Bogosky has dissolved altogether. But the King mascot still reigns, as does the tonal shift in advertising towards irony and self-awareness that roughly began with his coronation. This week on Doe Boys, we return, for the fifth time, to Burger King. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host. He's not wimpy, but he'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a war today, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Jesus Christ. Long road there, we're at the end of the month. Long road. My word. That's from, that's from a human person who wrote Love the Doathon, Be Well Kings, roastspoonmanatgmail.com. Little Popeinod. I can't, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think of a, that's the Key West Bridge, Wigs. That's how long a road that is.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. Perfect. I was, I was trying to think of another, of a bridge other than Golden Gate, and then I was just like, I'll just say Golden Gate. That's the Golden Gate right there. Oh, Terabithia. There you go. Ah, the bridge.
Starting point is 00:04:38 God damn it. What is, what is a long, what is a long road? Isn't there a Denzel Washington movie that's a, The Road to Perdition, no that's Tom Hanks. No, that's Tom Hanks. Yeah. There's a long and winding road that Paul McCartney sings about. Oh yeah. That could have been it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Long and winding road. Lovely Diddy. Why is I, I've never seen you that, like respond to a, to music in that way before. I feel like you, you usually just start, you take a pass on music for the most part. We, everyone knows this. I'll hit you with a Diddy, if it's just like right, like it's, if it's that specific. I'll be like, all right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I know that one. Yeah. I'll give you the name of the song. I know the name of the song and the name of the song is a lyric in the song. I'll, I'll give you that. The titular line, you'll, you'll sing that. We're living on the edge. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:31 That's the song. Living on the edge. The facts of life. The facts of life. The facts of life. Now, Wags, our, our, our guest is, I mean, he's one of the greats. And look, Nick, you're wasting his time by having him on the podcast, Nick. Time is money, baby.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You know what I mean? You're, you're blaming me. Yes. This is your fault. For booking today's guest. All right. I guess in a way. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Well, I don't want you to take credit for that either. So now I'm kind of in a, a weird spot where I want to take credit for getting the guest. Right. But then also it's your fault that we're wasting this time and we're doing this. I guess it is your fault that we're doing the podcast at all. Sure. You approached me and you said, please, please let's work together. Please throw me a bone here.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Please Mitch. I need that Mitch energy. I said, all right, Wags, what do you want to do? You said podcast about food. I was like, all right, sounds kind of fun. Here we are. It's a phenomenon. Can I record at your apartment?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Can I drive over and record at your apartment every week? Look, we got a fantastic start. I just got to say how to hoe to Spood Nation. I don't want to do it. He's going to think I'm a hack. Yeah. I mean, we already are hacks. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Like, is that like, like, I know that I'm doing it. Like I know I'm saying how do you hoe. Does that make it any less hacky? I mean, I don't know. That's it. Just silence. Just self-awareness and excuse for anything. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I think that's, that's like kind of the, you know, that's what they do, what they do with commercials these days, right? Everything's got like a veneer of irony, a veneer of self-awareness to sort of like. Yes. Yeah. I know it's random. Yeah. Flow is like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah. Blossom and then Blossom is there. Then Blossom shows up. But then, but it's Blossom from Powerpuff Girls and they're like, ooh, you thought we were talking about me and Bialik. But we were not. We got you. And then, then credits.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah. And credits. And then you have to watch five minutes of credits for insurance commercial. But you know, there's some easter eggs in there that you don't want to miss. Yeah. And those credit sequence. As a part of the progressive team likes, I'm very proud of all of our commercials. You're one of the field judges.
Starting point is 00:07:57 The yard markers. And by the way, I went on, I went on YouTube last night. I was like, I should like, I like, I should look and, you know, like, and like put this on a reel or whatever. They're gone. They're just are gone. They're gone. Scrubbed.
Starting point is 00:08:10 They're gone. They're scrubbed. They're in the abyss of the internet. Progressive has gotten, the progressive is distancing themselves from the yard markers. Anyways, this sounds like the beginning of a documentary. Finding the yard markers. Exactly. Me and Neil Barton.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Great guy. All right. Here's a little drop. Oh, sorry, Sam. Sorry for you. Look, we, I mean, we haven't, you haven't even announced them on I'm sorry. Here's, here's a little drop. Here's the drop.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, fuck. I didn't share the audio. Oh, fuck. It was a disaster. Yeah. And you know, honestly, this is maybe our best episode so far. This is going great. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Here we go. One of the two wigs is a little drop. He cried for a bee sting when he talking about, you know, remedy to stop the sting. Dead jizz. No birds. Just when I'm like, oh, we're hacky and bat and then we play that song. What the fuck? What is that?
Starting point is 00:09:38 What choice is that? Drop King. What the fuck is that shit? Hi, Mitch. You could listen to these in advance. Made this drop. Oh, he immediately called out. That's a volley.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, backhand. Look, he wanted to take over the drop inbox and I let him take over the drop inbox. Made this drop last year and have sent it in a few times, but now it's more timely than ever. Fuck the Celtics. Why are you sending this drop, King? Shane at on the Shane train on Twitter. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Because when you think of bad cities, it's only Boston, Philadelphia. It doesn't even get in there. You pieces of shit in Philadelphia. Philly is a more asshole city than Boston, I say. I remember there was a hitchhiking robot, hitchbot, that hitchhiked all the way across Canada and then it got to Philadelphia and then it was going to traverse from east to west back across the US and go across North America twice. It gets to Philadelphia in the US and a bunch of drunk Eagle fans just beat the shit out
Starting point is 00:10:50 of it. Completely buzzed it. They're just like, they're just like, it's done. Wags, good point. Yeah. I respect Philadelphia. In case you go there again, don't get robbed by it. Yeah, Lager, you're fucking screwed when you step into that city, Wags.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They got my number. You're ready to get steel smelted. Wags, Philadelphia, they've thrown shit at Santa and they beat up a robot. You and I are fucked if we go there. That's like, they have it out for us. We did go there. Yeah, we went there and they were drunk as hell. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:11:32 They were drunk as hell, but it was fine. They were very drunk. Yeah. Government mandated drunk. They have to be. But you know what? It didn't beat the city of our guest, the hometown of our guest. What a segue.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Beautiful. Returning to the show from Veep, Detroiters, Where Wolves Within, and I Think You Should Leave, and the new film, The Tomorrow War, which is streaming July 2nd, appropriately enough, tomorrow on Amazon Prime, Sam Richardson. Hi, Sam. Hey, guys. Sam, you got all the good entertainment. Everything that's coming out, that's good.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Sam's in it. It's just a fact. We're in all of it. And there's a reason for it. I made a wish on a genie and I got two more wishes. I think it was a monkey paw because you had to meet me and spend time with me. It's true. It's true.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I kept on wishing on the thumb and I was like, you shouldn't. Sam, I got to say, I said from a better city and then I realized, as I was saying that, during the Doe Boys Detroit show, a man did try to come on stage. It is the one incident that we have where someone tried to come on stage and it was very... That was gnarly. It was very... If he gave me a microphone, I guarantee it would have been the best show. You guys messed up.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You guys messed up. My man was trying to enhance. That's more speaking for our show in general, but you know what? It was still a good show. We went to Buddies and Jets. Oh, yeah. Sam, what are you? Buddies or Jets guy?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Does that... I mean, an annoying question, I'm sure. An annoying. I mean, that's hard. I mean, I love Jets pizza, but I also love Buddy's pizza. I'm a Buddy's pizza guy. Oh, that's dangerous. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I can't say. I can't say actually. That's big talk because truly I'm a Jets pizza guy, but I've eaten more Buddies over the course of my Detroit life. You know what I mean? They're so good and so close, but they are... You can taste the difference, but they're both fucking fantastic. Truly.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Truly. Get this Chicago deep dish out of here. Detroit style. It's a lasagna. I'll say it again. Chicago deep dish is a lasagna is not even barely a pizza. People are going to get mad. Our Chicago and fans are, it's not a lasagna.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They're going to fucking tweet at us that it's not a lasagna. No, it's not a lasagna. Jardinera. It's a lasagna. Jardinera. Look, that is good. You should be proud of that. Deep dish pizza is fine if you're in the mood for it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 We went to Pequod's. We had the best. That's the best in Chicago. And I think Detroit pizza is just better. It's a better style. That's what I was going to say. It's like, yeah, it's like an everyday pizza. Look, if you're in Chicago and you are Garfield and you're trying to find a cure for the Mondays,
Starting point is 00:14:25 go ahead and have a deep dish because it's lasagna. If you're in Chicago and you get yourself a deep dish pizza, you might be a Garfield. You might be a Garfield. If you were in Chicago and you got a little friend next to you named Odie and he's trying to serve you there in lasagna, you might just be a Garfield. If you're in Chicago and you have an owner named John and it's unclear whether he can understand your thoughts as dialogue or not, you might be a Garfield. If you're in Chicago and you put a little animal in a box and try to send a Timbuktu
Starting point is 00:15:09 that back to that little animal's name is Nermal, you just might be a Garfield. If you were at the vet one time and your owner, John, maybe drank a cup of cum, you might be a Garfield. I don't know if people have seen. And also, you're in Chicago. That's part of it. That's part of being in Chicago. Oh, here in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Why? You know that strip where John drinks. Oh, yeah, the infamous strip. He's at the vet. He's with Liz, John's on again, off again, GF and he drinks a cup and then Liz is like, in relation to Mr. Arbuckle, you're pregnant with a litter of puppies. So he drinks cum. The implication is clearly dog cum.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I don't know why they have it at the vet, but they have it. Well, you're probably some sort of illegal activity trying to, you know, is it Otis? It could be Otis. It could be Otis. I think in the world of Garfield, Otis is like a purebred something like nice. You know what I mean? Right. Like a wacky cartoon.
Starting point is 00:16:07 But then look at John Arbuckle's eyes. Those aren't normal either. So I think Otis is like a fucking terrier, like a show dog. Right. Like a Dandy Dinmont or something. Exactly. And so what you're angling at here, Sam, correct me if I'm wrong. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Is that like John was trying to drink this dog cum? It was kind of intentional. No, I think John probably was trying to sell this dog cum. Oh, okay. Drank it and then we had egg on his face. Yeah. Got confused with his cup of coffee. And then he's like, oh, that's, I just swallowed $10,000.
Starting point is 00:16:47 What a fucking idiot. That's right. And 10,000 little doggies. I was thinking back on our first episode, we, Sam, you were, you were lovely enough to give us your time in Atlanta, Atlanta. We were talking about cat cum for a good second time. Yeah, it was mostly cat cum. That's kind of a spiritual sequel.
Starting point is 00:17:08 If you remember correctly, I was just at the vet and I accidentally had drank a cup of Wally's cum. You say accidentally, but yeah. You may have to twist the cap open. Had I just read that comic strip and maybe used it as an excuse, maybe there's a chance, but what did we, what did we review with Sam in Atlanta? We did. Crystal.
Starting point is 00:17:35 We did crystal. We did crystal. That is those, those, those pictures. There's pictures of crystal that like haunt my phone still. I'll be scrolling through because I'll like, want to show people pictures that like my mom and sister pictures of tomorrow or whatever for the 1000th time. And I'm scrolling through and then there's just a hot dog, a mini hot dog on like a piece of white bread.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I'm like, like, what is that? And I'm like, oh, crystal the night I ruined, I ruined your night and took you and gender Angelo, the great gender Angelo to crystal. Just a found food restaurant. Truly everything in there is just thrown together. It shows up in my phone also of like a, remember where you were one year ago and it's just truly not, it doesn't, like it doesn't photograph well. It doesn't taste well.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It doesn't, it doesn't photograph well to the eyeballs in person. Yes. The, yes. The human photograph of the eyes just looking at it. It looks like shit. I feel like we were probably nicer to it than we even should have been. I think we were. Like, like even looking back, I have no fond memories of it.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like not a fond memory. I mean, and also that feels like 1000 years ago. I haven't, I haven't really seen you since that, since Atlanta, since I know it's been, it's been, I mean, since Atlanta, Atlanta, we went, we went on tour wise when I got back here after we wrapped and Sam, I didn't, I didn't see you. You know, it was like, oh, I'll go out and have a drink with you at some point in the next couple of months. No, a full year.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Nothing. I went and did a couple of movies. No, I did. I did. I did a couple of movies actually. Yeah. You didn't wear those within. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Which was so much fun. But then I got back into the world shutdown. Like it was wrapped. We did, we did a reshoots and stuff on this in January of 19. Yeah. Is that right? January of 19? I think so.
Starting point is 00:19:32 January of 20. Right? I think so. Yes. Yeah, it must have been because, because you were filming Tomorrow War in 2019, right? Yes. So it was January of 20. And so, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So that's the last time we saw each other with texts and stuff. Yeah. But like, yeah, last time I saw you in person, last time I saw most people in person was January. And then. Fucking crazy. Everything. But then I fixed it when I came up with the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah. Thanks by the way. Yeah. You're welcome. It's my duty. I should have had that in the credits. I don't know. I didn't list that.
Starting point is 00:20:06 In fashion to party it up. The, the, the, the, the man who cured Corona. Look, I gotta say, you got a lot of, a lot of stuff coming out. It will make people happy. That's true. The, the, I think you should, I think you should leave season two Detroiters. You got a lot of stuff, but there's something I got to ask you about with werewolves within. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Now a silver bullet will kill a werewolf. If a werewolf drinks a core, core's light, what happens? He tastes the Rockies. I was wondering, Nick, if a silver bullet beer would also kill a werewolf. Yeah. And now we know. Yeah. Sam is, Sam is logged off.
Starting point is 00:20:58 No, you, everyone gave that as much time. Everyone gave that as much time as it deserved. Sam, we gotta ask you what during all this time locked up, you, you and I, we ate some great meals, me, you and D'Angelo, Samantha, the, our producer, Samantha. We ate, we ate a lot of great meals together. Yeah, I sure did. And we love to eat. You're a guy who loves to eat.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I really do. What, what did you do? What were, what were you doing this last year? You like, you like going out to restaurants. You like eating. Were you doing a lot of postmates or what, what, what was, what did you do for the last year and a half? How did you handle it?
Starting point is 00:21:36 There's a lot of postmates, but then also I like signed up for one of those like meat delivery programs. I did like a couple of them and I would just grill a lot and just eat a lot of meats. So I ate a lot of red meat and I killed maybe about seven cows. Oh, wow. But they all went to good place, which is my guts in the toilet. You went, you, you're saying like, you're saying like you ate that meat, but then also like you went out and murdered cows just on your own, right?
Starting point is 00:22:07 So, so I ate the meat and then I would go and like murder. I would like stalk, quote unquote, stalk or, you know, serial kill, quote unquote, these cows. I wore like a little costume. Call myself the anti mover. It's interesting. It is interesting. It's a workshop in it, but that's like kind of what my image was.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Just a hamburger costume. Is that correct? Yeah, but it was all dots. It was like, it was like a cow thing. Oh, okay. So like very much heavily borrowed from the hamburger. So like the hat, the mask, you know, I would say rabble, rabble, but I would say rubble, rubble, because, you know, in the theme.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And then I would just go out and murder these cows, which was a shame of the hamburger. He made his entire identity being like a criminal, like a thief. He wears burglar, like he wears prisoner cloths. Yeah, he should change. And he made it into like this prison uniform. He can't be reformed. You can't reform that. I 100% agree with this.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And also you just, you should be more inconspicuous. You should, you should, you should change into something that's not going to get you caught. I know why. Cause I know, I know you're going to get up. By the way, rubble, rubble is a, that's the, that's the Russian hamburger. That's what a Russian hamburger says. Yeah. Rubble, rubble is like a bank mascot in there.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Just the actual burglar. Just the regular burglar. Rubble, rubble. Why is that? I know you're getting upset. I know that you love the hunk. You love the hunk hamburger. I don't want to bring up the sexy hamburger, but I Googled him real quick and he does.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He is, I thought his wardrobe was a little bit different, but no, he does have the classic prison black and whites. He's got the, he's still got the jumpsuit. It's very, very conspicuous. Yeah. Well, I bet for him it's like a sexy bad boy thing. I'm sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:13 With the mask and everything. Exactly. Like I imagine like a Vin Diesel, like 10 years ago type. It's like a, a pinstriped tank top and pants. Yeah. It's like a family. He's showing off his arms a little bit. When you, when you went to Google sexy,
Starting point is 00:24:36 did your web browser just fill it in? Was it an auto fill for even for Google? When you just, when you push www.G, was it Google plus search results? Sexy hamburger. I want to type the S in there. Yeah. It knew what to do where I was headed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He's, he's a, he's an odd figure. I mean, all the McDonald's McDonald's characters are pretty on the nose. I had, for some reason, I had remembered the hamburger with a hamburger head, which I would have been, which would have been an extra layer of weirdness, but no, he's just got a big wide head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You're thinking of the Burger King. Or Mayor McCheese. Early. Yeah. Oh, that's, that's what it was. Mayor McCheese, that he was like, he was another McDonald's figure. And I, I, I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:18 he should have been afraid of the hamburger. Cause like this man is a kidnapper. Yeah. To him. Yeah. You got, yeah. He's, he, he should be the most, yeah, he should be the most afraid of the hamburger. And like,
Starting point is 00:25:32 He has the power to like put things in order to stop the hamburger from running rampant in this town. You think it'd be his priority. It must be a deal where he's like, just don't come for me, man. You can take anything you want. Yeah. Just don't come for my head. He's corrupt.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Oh, exactly. Maybe hamburgers like, you know, like trust one money. Like he's got, he's, he's old money in, in McDonald's land. So, you know, we can't really touch him. That's why he can be so conspicuous about everything. You know. His real name is like Ennis Hamburglar the fourth.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah. Found at the local university. Exactly. But when I was doing improv, I was working. I was working at Starbucks. All right. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Hamburglar. Now, I just want to quickly say that you said that he has a pretty wide head. I feel like all the McDonald's characters, including mammoth cheese, just have normal sized heads personally from my point of view. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:26:30 The shorter to head ratio of, of, of myths. There you go. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:39 All right. All right. All right. All right. Of myths. Hold on to begins. You know what? You know what I want to,
Starting point is 00:26:51 you know what I want to see? I want to see sexy grimace. You give us sexy hamburger or give us a, give us a big, give us a big boy. Give us a big, sexy, big boy. Yeah. Put some extra curves on that bad boy.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah. Let's see. I think you just cast yourself. There's got to be a process. We need to see many people. We can't just, they can't be the first guy who calls. It gets to be it.
Starting point is 00:27:12 That's not, that's not how this can work. All right. I wish. I wish too, but let's do our due diligence here. Let's find the perfect person for the job. And it could be,
Starting point is 00:27:22 I think it will be you, but. I, you know, I have a, I have a leg up on a lot of people because my feet are often purple. Most of my extremities are usually. Sam, I wanted to ask you where this, this episode is coming out in July is our first July episode, July 4th, right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Are you a big cookout guy? You mentioned grilling earlier. I love, I love to grill. I love to be out by the pool. I love people over. I love fireworks. You know.
Starting point is 00:27:54 So yeah, I'm a big cookout guy. What are your favorite, what are your favorite meats to grill? I love to grill a steak. I'll grill, you know, a New Year's trip,
Starting point is 00:28:05 a Porter house. I'll grill lamb chops. I'll grill a, a spatch cock chicken. Wow. Oh yeah. I love, I love to grill and I love to eat food.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So this, those two things, I love fire. So the idea of like making food with fire is. Perfect. I don't want to call, I don't want to call a live action beavis for you, but it seems like it could be perfect.
Starting point is 00:28:33 The man loves fire. Yeah. I mean, of course, again, it has to go through the process. I can't just say, I want to be live action beavis and then it happens.
Starting point is 00:28:44 No, what better beavis is out there? We take that from the world. That's fair. That's fair. I like that. I like that. I'm calling grimace though.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Anyways, Sam, lamb chops. Yes, it sounds like you got skills on the grill, but you also like a different type of cookout. One of our last meals together, we went through the cookout drive through.
Starting point is 00:29:05 We got ourselves some cookout, which as a place that I'm just baffled, that doesn't have, it just is so weird to me that that doesn't, doesn't, doesn't have spots outside of like the, the, the southeast, right?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Like a, like it's a, yeah, I never see it anywhere else. I don't know, I don't know why that is. I mean, I think maybe the era of that food also that,
Starting point is 00:29:26 that sort of like, a hodgepodge of, which is like kind of, it's like, it's like a diner, but yes. Fast food diner,
Starting point is 00:29:35 behind a counter. And I don't know if like the era of that food, like being fast food is, is kind of like, you could, you probably couldn't get a foot, set anywhere else now, unless where it,
Starting point is 00:29:47 where it was and where it's been. I love it. I love it too. That shit is great. I, that's the thing of here, Nick Wags of like, of Astro Burger or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Like I love that Astro Burger exists and that you can just go there and get a fucking, a Greek salad and whatever else. You are like a, a grilled chicken sandwich that's made, like prepared as you're in the drive through, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. This is a local, local micro chain in LA, a diner, diner slash burger sort of hybrid. There's a lot of those out here, but, but cookout we reviewed
Starting point is 00:30:18 when we were doing our month of Atlanta chains. I reviewed it with our buddies, Jesse and Mike and, and I thought it was great. I thought Sam is, Sam is wondering why we gave him crystal and then went to cook out with other people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'm wondering why you took me to eating the toilet and you, the other ones, eat at the friggin, Queens Palace. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah. We fucked up. Wasn't right. We fucked up. But, but I loved it. Here's what I loved about it. You can get a corn dog
Starting point is 00:30:50 as a side. You can get a quesadilla as a side. You know, maybe not, maybe don't want fries or tots. You want a corn dog. Why not?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah. But the fact that we can, that's great. I'll have a steak. And as a side, I'll have a smaller steak. Hey, speaking of chains,
Starting point is 00:31:16 we're discussing Burger King this week. And Sam, I understand you have a family connection to, to BK if I have the correct intel, but also you have, one of your IMDB credits is Mary J.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Blige Unair Burger King commercial. Wow. Can you comment on that at all? So, my dad used to work for Burger King Corporation. This is before I was brown. Wow. And he like built the first Burger King
Starting point is 00:31:42 in Harlem. That's amazing. So, I haven't used his power yet, but I think I can just walk into that Burger King and demand food from, I can just go behind the counter and just kind of take what I want
Starting point is 00:31:52 and take cash out of the register. I think, I haven't tested that out yet, but I'm pretty sure, if I'm ever strapped for cash, I just go grab it from the register of Burger King in Harlem. Just say Ruble Ruble.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Just say Ruble Ruble, maybe a long story. I'm like, nah, that's exactly it. This is an inside job. And then I'm out of there. The ocean is 11, but Burger King.
Starting point is 00:32:19 That is, that is such a, the first Burger King in Harlem, right? That is, that is, that's amazing. That's such a cool, that's a, that's one of the coolest connections
Starting point is 00:32:29 in Doughboy's history. Why is we have the guy who worked at the first Domino's, right? Oh shit. Yeah. And then your dad had the first Burger King in Harlem. Did he ever,
Starting point is 00:32:39 did he ever tell you what it was like when he was working there? Or, I mean, it must have been a crazy thing when a new, when a new fast food chain, especially then,
Starting point is 00:32:47 I feel like when you're like, wow, like a Burger King is in my area or McDonald's, when they weren't before it is, it's a crazy thing, you know? Yeah. I mean, this was in the,
Starting point is 00:32:57 like mid early 70s, right? So, and I think he just, he like worked on the corporate side of it, but like, he, he doesn't really tell stories about that time. You know how people don't talk about the war?
Starting point is 00:33:12 I think he also doesn't talk about his time at BK, Harlem. That's right. It's hard for me to talk about the tomorrow war for me. It's like a hard thing to bring out. It's crazy,
Starting point is 00:33:30 because that hasn't even happened yet. Sam, have you ever visited this, have you visited the Burger King in Harlem? I have not. I have not. Wow! Because I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:43 it's not like it was like my dad's like own restaurant, you know what I mean? Right. It was, he just like was responsible for, for constructing it and building it and building it and all that.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And then, you know, running its operations and then retired from Burger King and moved back to Detroit. Wow. Well, the Doughboys are going to swindle you
Starting point is 00:34:03 into some sort of live appearance at that Burger King Harlem. Done. I'll show up. You're wrangled in another Monkey Paw finger curls. This was a very long fingernail. Too long.
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Starting point is 00:34:37 So I'm going to Costa Rica with the family. It's going to be a lot of fun. Going to maybe see a monkey. Oh, that's fun. Going to maybe see a bird. Just that, just a one monkey, one bird. That's it.
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Starting point is 00:38:20 slash Doughboys50 to get 50% off your first box. Do it. Welcome back to Doughboys. We're here with, I guess, Sam Richardson discussing Burger King for the fifth time. Wow. Burger King was founded in 1953 as Insta Burger King in Jacksonville, Florida, now owned by restaurant brands
Starting point is 00:38:38 international. You didn't have to say that. You didn't have to say it for the fifth time. What do you mean? It just belittles it. It just makes it seem worse. Oh, wait. You guys have done this before?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah, I mean. Oh. Well. All right. Way to go, Wags. No, it's... Burger King. Were we going to lie to our guests
Starting point is 00:38:58 that we're doing this for the first time? Burger King won with Sam Richardson. For the first time. We're covering it for the first time. I mean, I guess I'll never listen, so. It's good. I'm sure I'll say something new about Burger King that nobody's ever said before in the four previous ones.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Well, I do know you have an opinion about Burger King, which I think is probably new. Interesting. I don't know. All right. Let's get into it. Let's get into it here. By the way, it was called Insta Burger King?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, I heard that, too. My father never told me about this. The original name was Insta Burger King. Insta Burger King. Insta Burger King. They dropped the Insta. They, Sean Parkered it. Just went to Burger King.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It's cleaner. Yeah, it's a good Sean Parker. I don't understand the input. It was just like this one guy just insisting. It was like, it's quick. We got to say Insta. I assume that's what happened. We got to have the Insta.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah. It's like two names. Insta Burger is my thing. It's too much. Burger King is another thing. Like if I would even like, if somebody named the restaurant Insta Burger, but like, oh, that's great. That's a great name.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That means I go again quick. Insta Burger King. It means there's a bunch of other Insta burgers. And this one's like the king of them all. Yeah. Yes. Yup. It's a hat on a hat.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's Ungepochka, if you will. A little too much. But thankfully they simplified it. It is Ungepochka. You know what, Wags? I bet you people wished that this was called Insta Dough Boys. I bet you people wish that this show was over quicker, was just fast and done.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Oh no. People love this shit. They've been after this for fucking two hours. No. People want to live in the muck. They want just like a big ocean of mud. People deserve trash. They deserve to live in refuse.
Starting point is 00:40:46 That's kind of, that's the log line of Dough Boys, basically. Here's an interesting bit of corporate intrigue, is that I mentioned it's owned by Restaurant Brands International, which owns Tim Hortons, people know this, but also has acquired Popeyes. So right now there's the chicken sandwich wars, and others have commented on this, but you know Burger King has the chicken sandwich,
Starting point is 00:41:10 which is their entry into the chicken sandwich wars, but they're essentially competing against themselves. They're other label Popeyes under the same corporate ownership. Wow. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. I did not know. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:41:25 It is, there was a funny meme. There was a funny meme. Oh my, yes, right? Fucking boring old fuck. Fucking boring. And it was something about like, about capital. It was a cat, and the cat was like, looking mean. It was something about capitalism and being like,
Starting point is 00:41:46 oh, like the capital, like it got us this chicken sandwich, and then like there was a thing where it showed like, how every single sandwich shop had, like, oh, capitalism will dictate like what is on the market or whatever. Look, I'm doing a horrible job, but then it just showed how every single... You really painted this picture of this meme.
Starting point is 00:42:06 It's embarrassing. You didn't get it first? And then it showed a picture of every single fast food chain having a chicken sandwich. Like, oh, we didn't ask for this. We didn't ask for every single fast food restaurant to have a chicken sandwich. That being said, I'll get into it.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I got one, and I've had it once before, but I got one. But I got to go back to this thing I teased with Sam. Now, I'm not sure what you... I'm not sure which is the thing you told me, but I know it's either this. It's either A, the Whopper is better than the Big Mac, or B, it's maybe A and B, or B, Burger King is better than McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Wow, two hot dogs. It was A. I think Burger King, the Whopper wins the fast food burger war. It's like, as far as that tier of burger goes, the Burger King Whopper is the best across the board. You know what I mean? Like, among Wendy's, McDonald's, you know, Burger King, Carl's Jr.,
Starting point is 00:43:05 all that tier of burger, the Whopper best. Flamboyant Patty, cheese, the mayo. It's perfect. It's the best burger. Burger King is not when the restaurant wars, for fries alone, McDonald's wins that, because the McDonald's fry is untouchable. It's still the test of time. If you think about French fries,
Starting point is 00:43:32 truly you're thinking about a McDonald's fry. Right. But Burger King, the best burger, the Whopper, the best burger. Yeah. I like it. I like where you're going with it. I don't 100% agree, but I got myself a double Whopper, which I don't usually do.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And we'll get into our food in a second here, Wags. But biting into that bad boy, Sam, you're right. Just that, the flame-broiled taste of it. If it's a well-done Whopper, if you go to the right Burger King, it really hits. It's really, really fantastic.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yes. I think the take would have been, I might have been a little bit less receptive to the take when this podcast began, but with all the Whoppers I've had, and especially this year as I've stopped eating meat and I've been eating the Impossible Whopper, which is a complete game changer in vegetarian fast food,
Starting point is 00:44:32 I am coming around to the take, and honestly, I might get there someday, because that Impossible Whopper is so good, and the Whopper, I mean, just the default Whopper, it's delicious, it's delightful. It's good. I would dare you to try and think of the three worst Whoppers you've tasted.
Starting point is 00:44:52 You know what I mean? Even if the whole experience is bad, the Whopper itself, you're like, alright, this one at least is a good bite. You know? Yeah. I liked that Whopper a lot. It's like you were just saying the Impossible Whopper,
Starting point is 00:45:07 it's huge. The Impossible Whopper. It's huge for them. It's huge for them. I think, like we've said on the podcast before, that Burger King is location dependent. That's a huge part of it. And so, I specifically made a trip up to the valley
Starting point is 00:45:27 for the, I went to the Back to the Future Burger King, which, you know, fits the theme of the month, the Tomorrow War month, right? They travel 30 years in Back to the Future. In Back to the Future, they also travel 30 years. Marty goes 30 years back in time to nearly fuck his mom. Which wise, we said a week or so ago that he should have done it. He should have just pulled the trigger.
Starting point is 00:45:53 He was done it. I mean, yeah. He knew you said that. I think you said that. So he didn't do it. Yeah. I, yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Oh, man. Back to the Future Burger King. You're talking a Valley Burger King. You're going to get some good Burger Kings in the Valley. Yeah, sure. And that's just what this was. Drive-thru only. It wasn't open up.
Starting point is 00:46:20 So I went through the drive-thru and I got myself a double whopper with cheese. Something that I don't, I usually go single whopper. But I was like, I'm going to try a double whopper. I want to see if maybe I'm a double whopper guy. And you know what? I think I maybe enjoy the single whopper better. I think the whopper just, the whopper with cheese just is, just like the perfect amount of meat. I don't think you, I don't think you need the other patty.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I would agree. But I got to say, it was very good. It was very, very good. Double whopper. And like, you know, I'm a fan of a bang for your buck kind of, you know, you get, but a double whopper is so big. You have a hard time finishing it, you know? Because this is so, there's so much. Because working gives you so much value for your money is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It is, there is a good bang for your buck. I got, I got a shit ton. I got, I also got myself a frozen strawberry fanta, which is kind of like the, like the frozen treat. And let me tell you, it was really good. It was, I really enjoy this. It was, especially it was a hot day is driving around. I liked this frozen strawberry fanta. The double whopper was a meal.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I got that large with fries and a diet coke, which, you know, I already had the sugary drink. And then I got a couple of apps. And this is, this is something that Burger King implemented what probably now probably even 20 years ago, 15 years ago, where they have mozzarella sticks. And they also have jalapeno cheddar bites. And I got some ranch and some marin, marinara dipping sauce for both of those. The jalapeno dip, the jalapeno cheddar bites are straight up good. The jalapeno cheddar bites are, I loved them. I think that I got a fresh hot batch.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I thought they were great. The mozzarella sticks, not as much. They were a little bit, they were a little stale. Like they're the ones that like, I think with any, with Burger King just in general, like you got to eat it pretty quick or it goes stale. There was about a 15 minute window from where, when I was driving to when I got home. But the mozzarella sticks, they're just like, I don't think they're ever going to be as good as you want from a regular mozzarella stick. You're never going to get like, like gooey cheese when you break it apart. I think it's always going to be pretty solid.
Starting point is 00:48:33 But they didn't taste horrible. They, you know, just like it was, they weren't, they just weren't great. They were, they were closer to like tasting stale. They didn't taste stale, but it was going in that direction. But those jalapeno cheddar bites were great to put them in the ranch. They were really good. I also got a couple side sandwiches. Real, real quick on this.
Starting point is 00:48:51 First up, two questions. First up, how do they compare it with Arby's, which we recently reviewed, I think probably for the fourth time. And then also, how, how, how is, With the great Larry Fong, by the way. That's right. A lot of fun. And the second thing is that, that conceptually, they're not a true jalapeno popper. They're like diced jalapenos and cheese inside a little bit of breading.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So it's, it's a little bit of a different concept. But like, do you, do you like that? Or would you prefer a classic popper? I think that I preferred the Arby's ones better, but these are like a great fast food version of them. This is like, this is like Arby's feels like a little bit of that in between. Like we were talking about it feels like a weird deli. And it feels like a weird, like restaurant fast food. And this is for Burger King for the McDonald's Burger King Wendy's tier.
Starting point is 00:49:43 These are good. I thought they were really good. Arby's I think are a little bit better, but I loved them. I had a blast with these things. I ate, I ate all four of them. I got the smaller. Wow. I also got a sourdough, a double sourdough King.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm checking the, I'm checking the, the wording on this, on this item, but the sourdough King. Yes. It's a double sourdough King. It's two quarter pound flame, flame grilled beef patties with bacon, cheese, ketchup and mayonnaise on toasted sourdough slices. Now here's the deal. The sourdough wasn't as grilled as I would like it to be. Like it looks, I'll show you a picture of it right now. There it is.
Starting point is 00:50:26 See, it's not as grilled as you. Yeah. It's mostly the ring light. I'm going to turn the ring light off. There we go. Yes. Yes. So it looks very sloppy.
Starting point is 00:50:37 It wasn't as toasted as I want it to be. Nick, that being said, it was my bite of the night. I loved it. Wow. It was very, very, very good. I mean, like I didn't eat the whole thing because I, my heart hurt by the time I, I mean, like when I got home, my heart was already hurting. It's just been hurting for days.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Yeah. My chest area. So I mean, we got to, we got to stop. We got to start going to seasons. We need to just start doing seasons on the podcast. Oh wow. Spilling this now. This thing we've talked about.
Starting point is 00:51:07 We're going to do seasons. We're going to do seasons. You can just do each of these restaurants each season and that way, you know, do Birking once every season and then do Carl's dream once every season. Do you know McDonald's once every season? I like it. I think you're, I think you're mocking us, but I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I am. And I bet you do. I'm on board with the plan, Mitch. But I also want to say, I think that this is, and this is a note for both of us. I think we should just start ordering a meal's worth of food. I think instead of being like, I've got it. We're going in, we're reviewing this and I got to be comprehensive and I got to get like 12 items.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Let's just each be like, what is a meal I would get if I was eating at this place and evaluated on those terms? Cause that would be less harmful for our bodies. And like also like probably like the further you get into the meal, though, the less favorable those things get. Cause you're like, it's good, but it's too much. You're like, well, it wouldn't be if it was the first thing you ate. Well, can I give a counterpoint likes?
Starting point is 00:52:10 No fucking chance in hell. Counterpoint taken. All right. I shall look at both of your arguments and deliberate my decision with you in a few moments. Look, you're probably right. I should just, I should eat normally, but look, we do it for the, we do it for the listeners too. Anyways, that's my excuse.
Starting point is 00:52:35 The large fries, they were good. The issue with the fries is that they were a little bit cold. I think BK's fries are back. I think that they're, I think they're good. I think they're good again. If you get a fresh hot batch, I think they taste pretty good. These were just a little, and I know that I traveled, but I had someone when I was on the road and they were just, they were, they were, they were, they were a little bit too
Starting point is 00:52:56 cool. They, they, they, they, they, it wasn't a hot, fresh batch. But if you get the hot, fresh batch, you're in business. And then I also got the spicy chicken, chicken, which is their, their, their branding on this now, the chicken, like a, I think that's what it's supposed to be. Oh, it's like cha-ching. That's what it is. It was like a chicken, like a chicken.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Oh, that's good. That's good. Chicken. Yeah. That's good. That's better. That is, that's probably what it is. Um, I think their chicken sandwiches, maybe second place to fucking Popeyes as far as the
Starting point is 00:53:26 fast food chicken sandwiches go. It's good. Well, I had a, I had a bite of the chicken sandwich. Uh, I think it's, it's, it's very good. But I mean, Popeyes, if they're not going to win the chicken sandwich war, they need to get out of town right now. That's true. That is very true.
Starting point is 00:53:43 They should be winning the chicken sandwich wars. Right. They, they are, you know what, I maybe take back BK being second because I had the KFC chicken sandwich and that was also very good, which they, they also should be good at that. There was a situation where like, okay, Popeyes and KFC, you should both be good at making chicken sandwiches. And you know what? They both were good, but BK's, I thought was surprisingly good.
Starting point is 00:54:03 There was a good amount of a spiciness on the, on the sandwich and then it comes with like pickles on there. I thought it was good. I enjoyed it. I, I, I, I really thought it was a, a my meal all around is making me think BK is back. Yeah. Yeah. It makes me think BK is back.
Starting point is 00:54:21 We've said it before. We've said it before. And we'll say it again. BK is back. BK is back. The king is, the king is saying, I'm picking him back. Has it ever made it into the golden play club? It's gotten close.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I don't know if it's, if it's fully gotten in there, but it's gotten close. Uh, when we, So it's an average of average of four forks or above. That's right. To get into the golden play club. It feels like you're leaning on our guests pretty aggressively here. Yeah. No, no, not at all.
Starting point is 00:54:49 So, so like if you want it in the golden play club, you know, it's just like a four, four, four or above. Ready? But look, it's, it's never been in the golden play club. But it's back. I don't think so. That's nuts. What have you done with these past four times?
Starting point is 00:55:03 I think that I've given it four forks before, but I don't think it's ever. We had some real, we had a pretty bad visit. I think our first time we reviewed it, first or second time, Mitch. It was a real, real bad experience. And BK wasn't back at that point. It wasn't. Yeah. That wasn't.
Starting point is 00:55:18 BK wasn't back. Okay. Yeah. That's, that was the issue. And now it's back. I mean, it is, it is back. Yes. And, and I think the, the, the last few visits I've had there have been, have been, you
Starting point is 00:55:33 know, you know who the last time we did it was with your good friend, Sam Haley Mancini. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I, and I, and I'm looking up the fork, the fork score right now. Wags Haley gave it four forks. You and I gave it 3.5. We're the reason. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:50 We're the reason. You guys. We're the reason. We're the reason it didn't get to get in for number three. So. Should have given us the reminder. We didn't review it again with the, with don't stop or we'll die. Oh yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:56:02 We did. You're right. Doughboys, don't stop or we'll die. We did review it again. That whole season of burking reviews that you guys did. That's right. Yeah. We did all of 2017 and 18.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Wags really stretched it out. It was almost back. Nick Weigar, four forks. Mike Mitchell, four forks. Paul Rust, four forks. Michael Castee, 3.754. Composer. Just to be.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Composer of the Doughboys theme song. Yeah, I guess so. Dr. Dr. Tine. That's fucked up. We should. We're no longer going to use the theme song because of that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That theme song is gone. We got a new theme song on the way. It's composed by bean dad. So look for that. I'll speed through mine real quick. A very regular meal for me this veggie year has been the BK impossible whopper. I love it. I have it all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:56 It's delicious when I want something trashy but also filling. I say trashy in an affectionate way. Like Sam was saying earlier, that tier of fast food burger. It's just the best vegetarian option. It's delightful. And yeah, I think the fries are pretty decent. So I went for breakfast. And this is the same thing I did when we did Taco Bell recently with Lauren Balfe.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I was like, I'll see what this is like, what the breakfast menu is like from a vegetarian perspective. I ordered on the app. I will say this. I really like this to its credit. There are vegetarian options available without making substitutions, which you can't get at a place like McDonald's or, I don't even think Carl's Jr. Hardee's you can for breakfast. They might have one beyond sausage sandwich, but I don't know if that's still on the menu. So that's great.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I got three French toast sticks, nice and hot and well fried, a little cinnamon-y. And the maple dip and sauce I wish was a little came warm instead of room temp. All that said, I'd just rather have a donut, but they're pretty good. I got the egg and cheese cre sandwich and the egg and cheese biscuit. I think egg and cheese is more than enough to sustain the sandwich. This reminded me of like, this is like almost Dunkin' level. And Dunkin' for me and McDonald's are like 1A, 1B in terms of fast food breakfast. So these were both good.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I preferred the biscuit. I just thought the biscuit had more flavor to it. And I thought it was nice and buttery. I got the hash browns, which because my BK loyalty rewards were upgraded from a small to a medium, which was nice. That's a nice perk. Their hash browns are good, Mitch. You like them hash browns? Those little discs they got?
Starting point is 00:58:28 I do. I do. I think, again, it's just location dependent. Like, I think you can get like cold, bad versions of them. And then I think you can get hot, crispy ones that taste great. So I think it is, yeah. I went to a very good McDonald's, the one on Sepulveda, which is right across from the office building. I used to work in when I was in, when I worked in video games, one of my video game jobs.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And this has always been a reliable Burger King, old standby, always does good work. You said McDonald's first, yeah. Okay. I know. I fixed it. There's a good McDonald's by there too, but that's not what I'm talking about. You fixed it. You fixed it.
Starting point is 00:59:02 All right. It's always been a good Burger King. I'ma just edit this whole thing so it sounds like a good burger. No, don't make it look good. No, just edit it. Oh, all right. I'm just giving me the thumbs up. You're gonna add it on the racist stuff too?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Oh, yeah. Don't worry. Yeah. Let's just be safe. For Mitch's sake, honestly. Oh, what the fuck? No, well, Mitch has the movie coming out. I don't want him tied to me.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I got the iced coffee. I also got an iced coffee vanilla small. What I was gonna say, to the point of that being a good BK. They had the fryer on point that morning. The hash browns were well fried. And then I also got the iced coffee, the vanilla flavor, which I just don't love that vanilla. I think they use like Hershey's vanilla syrup. It just tastes very artificial.
Starting point is 00:59:44 So it was sweet and I love vanilla flavor, but vanilla is a flavor. It's not plain, but this just wasn't a good vanilla. I dump most of this down the sink. All that said, a very high quality breakfast. Sam, let's tell us everyone about your- Well, you fucking, I mean, this wasn't BK breakfast. You kind of fucking surprised us here with this BK breakfast shit. I've had so much of the, I've had the entire BK vegetarian menu so many times at this point.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I was like, what am I going to gain from another visit? Let me see what breakfast is like because I have my evaluation of the lunch and dinner side. That's my logic. Yeah, all right, fine. Take it or leave it. Yeah, there you go. Point, kind of point. I'm going to deliberate with your points, both of you, and I'll have a decision very soon.
Starting point is 01:00:32 In the meantime, I'll tell you my- So I went with, I did a double whopper meal because, you know, you just got to give it a chance. But I also, I did a bunch of sides and I also had like the original chicken sandwich. Wow. I did onion rings, I did chicken fries, fries, and then I, for a dessert, I did the Hershey pie. Oh yes, good pie. I'll say the onion rings, I caught a bad batch because I think the onion rings, as far as Birkin goes, maybe they're worst showing because I think they use the wrong onion, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:21 It's a soft mushy onion, there's too much batter. And so I think it's not a good bite. And I think as far as the onion ring wars go, it's lacking. You know, their fries aren't great either. It is funny because I felt like for such a long time Burger King was like, they were lauded for that, their onion rings, right? Like I feel like it was like, you go to BK and you get onion rings, right? And I haven't had them in a while.
Starting point is 01:01:48 So this is interesting news to me. And I'm not sure if they changed the onion ring. You know what I mean? They remember having onion rings there and they were really good. These ones were like mushy crap and I was very upset by them. The chicken fries though, terrific. And I'll say this, you don't need to dip them. In fact, they're best undipped because they're like a little spicy, like spicy breading.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And I felt when I would use like honey mustard or barbecue, I would take away from the flavor. I just want to be munching on those chicken fries. I didn't dip it in ketchup, but I remember even when the commercials came out originally, I was like, anti chicken fries. It's like, don't call them that. It's not what they are. But they fit a very interesting, like narrow sort of a space in the like tender slash nugget slash fry world.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And I wonder if like in marketing, they're like, we call them chicken straws or call them chicken sticks. They're like, no, chicken fries. And then people will know what they are and they'll kind of like get them. And I wonder also if they didn't try to do that same sort of thing that we're talking about for cook out where it's like, oh, you can get instead of regular fries, you get chicken fries. And I wonder if like the health department didn't like come down on that one.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Like you can't. You simply can't. Maybe maybe they want to have chicken straws. They didn't want people dunking them in their fucking soda or something. I mean, it's chicken fried. I think so you're coming around. You're coming around to the name chicken fries because I do. I really do think it does work.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It does. I'm fully convinced now because like, you know, they are fries, but they're just made with chicken instead of potato, which sounds insane. But they work. They work and they don't need to be dunked. Onion rings, trash, got the double whopper. Heavy duty. I couldn't even finish my first one because I'm so svelte and skinny that I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:53 it was too much food for me. But really good. And I'll tell you the fries just okay at best, but I stand by it. The whopper is the top tier burger. It cleans up the mess of the other two. So the onion rings, I'm not worried about the fries. I'm not worried about that burger. So good.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And Hershey's pie was delicious, you know, and small. It's not like an overwhelming thing. You know, even if you try and share it, you're kind of like, oh, don't take more than one bite because there's only like four bites in this thing. So you don't feel so guilty getting one and eating one, you know. You bring up a good point because we had a tournament of Chompians, Pie Noon. That's right. And the Cinderella story was this Hershey's BK Pie.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It kept winning. It overperformed. It overperformed. And we really liked it. I think it's for a fast food chain, a fast food chain as a dessert. It's one of the top tier desserts. It's for a pie. I mean, they used to have a Dutch apple pie at Burger King that I like loved.
Starting point is 01:05:09 It was my favorite thing. And it just really set them apart. And I think that it is obviously different. Like it was, that was a different world where they were like, these pies tasted fresher. They would heat them up. And with the Hershey's BK Pie, like they're stored in the fridge. And I feel like they just get them shipped in the way they are. But they're good.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Even still, they're good. But back in the day, BK had good desserts. I mean, McDonald's, look, McDonald's has the McFlurry. It's got good ice cream. It's hard to beat McDonald's with that stuff. It's hard to beat McFlurry. They got the regular ice cream like soft serve, the apple pie. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:47 McDonald's is rocking the dessert. They really are. Yeah. But this is a great entry into it. And that's why it made noise. It's fantastic. I agree. I'm glad that you liked it too.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Wendy's with their frosty is great. Wendy's frosty is so good that it's part of the regular meal menu. Like you don't even consider it a dessert. You know what I mean? It's like the drink. You get the frosty and you dip your fries. I don't dip my fries in it. That's crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:06:12 But people do that. Oh, I do it. You're crazy. Sam, here is a crazy thing is that the last time when we visited Wendy's for the tournament, people were upset at us. It had a bad outing. It was not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:28 It felt like there was maybe something going on with it where maybe they had changed some stuff up. But yeah, it did not do that well. Dave Thomas. Dave Thomas. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened to the Thomas recipe, but it was not as good as it had been. But overall, a good experience it seems for you from BK.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yes. Truly. Truly. Wow. Well, hey, if we've all recapped our meals, we should get to our final thoughts on this week's Chain Burger King. What the hell? Well, if we've all recapped our meals, I guess we, yeah, no shit, we should get to our final
Starting point is 01:07:08 thoughts. Get a Mitch. What's wrong with a little bit of extra context? You know. Sam. Yeah, you're right. Sam, go out with your judgment on this one, too, because that sucked. I'm gonna edit all this stuff out.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Burger King, you know, with it being such a front runner in the Burger Wars for so long, it's up for a lot of scrutiny, you know, it's hard to take down the king, you know, but that was good reason because that again, I'm gonna say the whopper is the tops. It's like if you are a in a in a land war in the medieval times, you have a sword and a shield. So you are ready to rock, you know, it's kind of, can I be honest with you? I feel like I have like a chain around my neck and they're like leading me into battle, like some sort of like cave troll, like bring him beat the drums as you come through mist
Starting point is 01:08:24 and I was like, oh, no, it's a Mitch. They unchanged. You just immediately puke on yourself and collapse and work out we shouldn't have him walk so far. God damn it. But I give my give my rating, right? Yeah, out of four out of five forks out of five forks is going to get four and a half forks from Wow, four forks two times.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Very good score from Sam Richardson. Spoon man go ahead. Wags it's it's looking good looking good so far. Wags BK is back and those Valley BK's they're the place to go. You got to find your BK that's what that's that's my advice to everyone listening. Find your BK find your BK the one that works for you. Go there eat inside a lot of us were doing during quarantine. We're finding our BK find your BK's and when the world opens up, go there, proudly take
Starting point is 01:09:30 your mask off and order yourself up some food order and sit down and enjoy it in there because I honestly that when I that was the thing that bummed me out is that I couldn't eat inside BK. I wanted to just sit and enjoy my meal inside BK. I mean, I would have looked like a monster ordering all the food I got. But find your BK the one that works for you because you know what Wags, it's going to give you at least a four fork meal, which it's given here for forks. Four forks.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Yeah, I almost want to go higher. It was it was it was it was a good way. We can find four and a half forks. I'm going to say four forks two times. Yeah, I had a good score. It falls to me as to whether or not this enters the hallowed halls of the Golden Plate Club for the first time. Yeah, King.
Starting point is 01:10:19 This chain that we've said is back and with good reason. Uh huh. I'll say this. I can't get to. I can't get to five forks because to me, there's just too much inconsistency across the menu and and across locations to your point, Mitch, but. I think I'm so afraid you're going to Debbie Downer us right now. No, quite the opposite.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I think based off of the breadth of vegetarian offerings and then also just like, you know, it's classic meat offerings and I'll say this about the chicken sandwich Natalie, my lovely wife has had the chicken sandwich and she said it's like I think she she she said for a second, it's maybe better than Popeyes and then she walked that back like like like she might have to get it again, but she definitely had a very good experience. Like it's at least competitive in her head. The fact that she's in the competition and exactly is high praise.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah, it's wild. And so I think I'm in the hand holding club with the two of you. I think I got to go four forks two times. And that means that Burger King, I get to say to you for the first time, welcome to the Golden Play Club. Wow, I hope you stay a while. Yes, make yourself at home. There's a reason why I was here for the fifth one.
Starting point is 01:11:41 That was to deliver it to the promised land. Wow. And in the Burger King Quincy, they're celebrating the first Burger King in Harlem on the day this episode drops there. Everyone is celebrating the win. That's right. This big win. They're sailors kissing ladies.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Wow. What a day, Wigs. Burger King in the Golden Play Club. What an episode. What a moment. We'll see if it's still in here after next week's episode. Burger King six. With Crystal Lea.
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Starting point is 01:13:56 you go to wildgrain.com slash Dough Boys. That's wildgrain.com slash Dough Boys, or you can use promo code Dough Boys at checkout. Do it. Welcome back to Dough Boys. We are here with our guest, Sam Richardson. And hey, Mitch, it's time for a segment. That's right. I've got a food related test and Mitch and Sam must compete for superiority.
Starting point is 01:14:19 It's another edition of Slop Quiz. This time, Detroit edition. Wow. These are Detroit foodstuffs. Oh, I'm going to get stopped. As compiled by the Drop King, Robert Persinger. Now, here's how this will work. I'm going to get stopped.
Starting point is 01:14:33 We'll see. There is a year that each of these debuted. I am going to give you a number that is not the real year. You are going to guess whether the real year is under or over. Does that make sense? Sure. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Awesome. All right. Great. Here we go. And you'll eat. You can each guess on each of these and you can guess the same thing. If you like, it's up to you. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Okay. All right. Let's begin the first one. Coney Island Hot Dog 1925 over or under? Hmm. That's a good question. I think my initial reaction is that is under. I just feel like that, like I feel like hot dogs were just even before that shit.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Like I feel like it was like an even earlier street food, but I feel like it might be over in the sort, but however, well, I feel like it's over. Like with like, you know, a huge immigration thing, like Greek immigrants coming from, uh, uh, like, like, like a big Ellis Island through, then through Detroit sort of Greek immigrant sort of bringing the hot dog Coney Island to Detroit. Hmm. That seems, that seems smarter. I, I just was going off of my feelings, which was, there's no real reason, but I
Starting point is 01:15:58 just was like, I feel like it's just been around longer. I mean, look, yes, when the Red Sox won in 1918, and then they had a drought for a hundred years, were they eaten Fenway Franks? I feel like yes. That's where my head goes. Hmm. Um, so I'm going to, I'm going, I'm going, and I know that this is Detroit, but I don't, I'm going, I'm going earlier.
Starting point is 01:16:21 I'm going to stick with it. We're both, we're going different, we're going different ways. Okay. Great. And we're at one on the same page under is earlier over is later chronologically. Mm-hmm. Great. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Mitch, you take it. Wow. Came out in 1917, the first Coney Island hot dog. 1917. Over means under, no, and that's what I meant. Wait, did you? No, no. I'm genuinely confused.
Starting point is 01:16:53 I should just say earlier or later, but we'll stick with over. Yeah. I mean, that is better. Wouldn't be a Dillboy segment if it wasn't a little bit confusing. Next up, ABC, uh, which this, these notes tell me stands for almond boneless chicken. Almond boneless chicken. Now I don't even know what the fuck this is. Honestly, I don't either.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Wow. Okay. This is new to all of us. And Sam knows his Detroit foods. I know that. So this is, yeah, this is bad. Dropping also likes to drop in some fake ones. Um, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Cheer God. All right. So almond boneless chicken. Yes. So I guess a Detroit favorite, apparently. I guess. And what year's given for this? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Sorry. Almond boneless chicken. 1945. Did it come out earlier or later under or over? I have it. I have an answer for this. Go for it. Same.
Starting point is 01:17:49 I don't know if you'll agree with this, but in my mind, are we going boneless in 1945, it feels like a later thing to me. I would agree with you there. Yeah. I feel like the idea of boneless and like calling it boneless chicken. Yeah. It feels, it feels later to me. It feels later than 45 or you would just be happy to eat anything.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Exactly. And like, you're not, you're not, you're not distinguishing between like a chicken breast, like the idea of a chicken breast is boneless to begin with. Yeah. So, so you're just like calling it chicken at that point. Not, you're not like boneless, you're just a breast. So I feel it's, I feel it's, it came out later. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Oh, I'm going to, I'm going, I'm going over. Over. Um, it actually debuted in 1940, according to this. I also looked up. Wait, so we got it right. We got it right. Yeah. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Gun. Oh, wait, did you? Oh, no, wait, no, no, you're stupid rules. No, he did not. Oh, I can say is this segment is going flawlessly. There's not a bone in this thing. I looked it up, also known as Chinese, I also known as Chinese almond chicken. Oh, I know Chinese almond chicken.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Chinese almond chicken. So it's, yeah, almond boneless chicken. It's not the correct thing. That, that truly, that really does, but whatever, it's fine. We got it wrong. Chinese American dish, popular in the Detroit area. Okay. Next up, let's see, I wonder if you'll, if either of you have heard of this.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Scotty Simpsons fish and chips. Did this come out before or after 1939? Scotty Simpsons fish and chips. Hmm. Um, Scotty Simpsons. Uh, I'm going to guess a year, actually, I'm going to guess a specific year. Wow. 19, what's the, what's the year of, of, of the decision?
Starting point is 01:19:56 19, 1939 is the over under. Uh, 1941. Wow. 1941. You know what? Taking the over, Mitch. I'm going with my, my, my good friend Sam on this one because Scotty Simpson, Bart Simpson, Bart Simpson 90s. I think he's closer to Bart Simpson than he is before it.
Starting point is 01:20:16 So here you go. Later. Sound logic. And let me tell you, you're not going to be saying dough because you both got it. Wow. 1950. You mean at a point? 1950.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Okay. That's pretty, I, I pretty impressed. You, you knew it was older than the 30s. So you've, so you've had this place, Sam is my guess. Oh yeah. Scotty's a close first little friend of mine. Very cool. Wow.
Starting point is 01:20:44 The guy who created it in the fifties. Yeah. He's the very first Scott, actually. Wow. The first one. When you said Scott, you were talking about a Scottish man. Wow. Well, we're Rubes, so we believe you.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Next one, Asian corned beef. Did this debut in 1981? Sorry. Asian corned beef, 1981. Did this debut before or after that year? Before. Asian corned beef and the, the over and under is 1981. I'll go after, just to make things interesting.
Starting point is 01:21:17 You're after, I'm going to say it debuted in the sixties. Sam, you are corrected as before, but not much before. 1978, it actually was first introduced. All right. All right. Few more here. I have to stop opening my yap and going specifically and just be like before and then look like a genius. We're tied up in teams, right?
Starting point is 01:21:39 You're, you're knotted up to a piece. Okay. Next one, Telway hamburgers and the over and under is 1953. Telway hamburgers, 1953. That's a good date. It is a good one because part of me wants to say it's like on the dot. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel too. You know, after I can say none of these are on the dot.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Okay. We'll, oh, sorry. Well, there goes that fun. After World War two. What? It just made it impossible. After World War two, I don't know. This is tricky.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Maybe earlier, I'll go. Maybe I'll go earlier and like, uh, like, just, you know, like, like a year, a year, you know, like a couple of years after the war, it started up. All right. Mitch has taken the under. Sam, have you had a Telway hamburger? I have not had a Telway hamburger. Do you know what it is? Yes, actually, I've heard of them and I've seen them eaten by other people.
Starting point is 01:22:40 That one, I don't know. And I was in the restaurant sitting there and I just did not partake in any of the burgers. We studied them in the Detroit school system. I've had, in fact, I've had one in my mouth, yet I have not. I've had one in my mouth. I chewed it once or twice. Then I was asked to remove it. What was the year, 1953?
Starting point is 01:23:08 1953. I'm, I'm going to say before. You both say before, you both get it, 1944. Yeah. Oh, wow. It was the first year. Mid, mid, mid World War II. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yeah. Although I've heard that stateside as the, like, I say, I've heard. I watched Band of Brothers and they said that, like, you experienced, at the end, they were like, I was there. Yeah. They were like, they were like, they're partying back home. Like at the, at the back end of the war, you know, like they were kind of like talking about it was the opposite of war weariness where people were just like returning to normal too quickly. So maybe that's what it was like in 1944.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I don't know. Next up, Mike's famous ham place. You'll like that, Mitch. Mike's famous ham place. Why will I like that? It's your name. And ham. And famous.
Starting point is 01:24:04 It's a place, buddy. You're always a place. Famous is the thing that relates to me the least in that entire name. 1955. Place works better. Mike's famous ham place. 1955 is the over or under. Do you think it was earlier or later than that date?
Starting point is 01:24:27 It would shock me that if this was later, because this seems like a place that shouldn't be later. But it does have kind of like a funny name. So maybe that does make it a little like Mike's famous ham place does make me think that maybe it's a little bit older. Maybe I'll go over. Maybe I'm going to go over because of the name. The name gets me to think over. Did you think more contemporary? Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 01:24:50 Okay, I was going to say over also, but like very close to over. I'm thinking like a late fifties. I was surprised that this place actually debuted in 1974 seems too recent. Seems like an old timey place, but you both get it. You both get a point knotted up at four apiece. This is a barn burner as we go into our final few here. Final few. Seventy five questions.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Huh? All right. We have a lot of options. I made cuts to this list, too. You did? Wow. I did. Okay, there I was about to say if you cut burners, they will punch you.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I did not cut burners. Burners is on here over under 1878. Going back to the 19th century. Sam, you should just let me guess first because this is you probably just burners 1878, you said? Yes. Jesus over. Mitch says over more recent.
Starting point is 01:25:49 It's old. Sam think it's under. Sam is correct. 1866. Yeah. Jesus Christ has some history behind it. My dad was a burner seller as a young man. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Sam, when we were in Atlanta, you had some burners ginger ale. You had a big pack of it, which did you have to fly? Did you have to get it sent in? Now burners is on the same like distribution track as Dr. Pepper. So I think you can find it in stores. It used to be like a difficult thing to try and track down. But I do have to send myself Fago.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I can't, you can't just find Fago at anywhere, but Dr. Pepper, I mean, burners you can find in most grocery stores. We did a whole episode where we tried Fago. We drank a bunch of different Fago and it was fantastic. I love Fago. Burners, you say that's your favorite ginger ale, correct? That's that's the number one. I think it's number one.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Yeah. Second being candied dry. Wow. Yeah. Well, hey, Fago was mentioned and that's our final question. Wow. Fago, the over under 1930. I'm going to go under just because.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Burners was even earlier than I thought. So nine before 1930. Yes, Mitch takes the under. So sorry to match you because you need we need to be different for in order for you to have a chance to win. But I'm going to say under as well. Damn it. You are both correct.
Starting point is 01:27:27 1907. I was floored by this shit over a century of Fago. It's true. 1907. The first juggalo. Drank the very first juggalo was hatched. A big egg from a black and white egg. Black and white egg opened like one of the eggs and aliens.
Starting point is 01:27:51 His name was egg crusher. Egg crusher. It's only fitting that the king of Detroit beats me at the Detroit trivia question. So only fitting and Sam, you win. And by the way, a quick shout out to Street Fight Radio, Mitch, who joined us for the, for that Fago podcast, our buddies, Brian and Brett over there. And hey, that was Slop Quiz. De-treat edition, just like a restaurant value feedback.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Let's open up the feedback today. We have an email from Josh K. Josh writes, the world's cereal mascots are called to compete in Mortal Kombat. Who do you think would win the tournament? What's your tier list? For my money, Tony, the tiger and the cookie crisp wolf will be there at the end. But I'm not sure who would win some sort of Super Smash Brothers scenario with the entirety of the cereal mascot roster.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Now look, who wins? I don't say this often. Uh-huh. But this is a fucking genius question. This may be the best question we've ever got. This is really good. I've got thoughts. I've got thoughts.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Well, let's hear them. I got, I got, I got a thought. There was one that came to my head immediately and yes, and look, can you say Count Chakula is, uh, you know, is immortal, lives forever, like, uh, has the power to, of immortality and can, you know, can fly around and turn into a bat. But also, you know who the biggest mascot and fast, you know who the most jacked cereal mascot is in, in, in, in all the land. And it is, it's Tony, the tiger.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Tony, the tiger is just fucking ripped. Yeah. Yeah. And he's a tiger. He's a tiger. I mean, look, I mean, Frank and Barry. Look, what would win in a fight, a tiger versus a bear? Because the, is it the honeycomb?
Starting point is 01:29:51 What is it? It's the honey, honey, honey, Chris, sugar, Chris, sugar. Oh, sugar, Chris, sugar, I did not like why singing that. It felt, it didn't feel right for some reason. But the lyrics in the title. See, that's a way in motion. Tony, the tiger is, but is Count Chakula. Is Count, is, is Count Chakula, is he immortal?
Starting point is 01:30:18 That's the big question. Also, the cookie crisp guys, when they were burglars, one of them had a gun, right? That sounds right. Well, there was a burglar. Yeah. They were, they were old time robbers like the, the hamburger, they were, they had the masks and there was, there was one, I think human and one dog.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I think that was the deal. I don't know if they had a gun or not. Who would chase them around. Yeah, there was a cop. And he, then the dog, and the dog couldn't help but say cookie crisp. And then the, the burglars like, you fucking stupid dog. Oh my God. They'd have to go running away.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Now, my, my question is, is the, is the boo, is the Boo Berries ghost? Is he just like, but also he can't, the Boo Berries ghost can't really win either. Right. He's not going to be able to do much. In fact, Boo Berries ghost is a ghost because he probably lost it like an earlier round of the cereal wars. He was, he was captain crunch. He was kept, well, he was killed.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It's funny you say that because I wonder, we don't know what captain crunch's actual background is. He's a Navy captain. Right. That's a good point. Is he a Navy SEAL? He could, he could, he could be, he very well could be a Navy SEAL. He may, he was maybe thrown in the water until long, until water filled up in his
Starting point is 01:31:36 lungs, the training that SEALs get. That's insane. That's what he has that voice, you know? He's like, oh, here's boo because it's still in his lungs, there's an overflowing of water still and that damn temptress to see won't let him sleep. Now, I got to say there is, there was a Mario cereal. Do we count these one-off cereals? Do we count the Mr. T cereal?
Starting point is 01:32:00 I don't think so. I think it's got to be a dedicated mascot. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hmm. Tricks rabbit dead, we're out of the bat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Uh, lucky doesn't stand a chance. But the tricks are, but he is, he is tricky. Yes. You know, you're, you're right. But you know what I mean? He's very passively tricky. Yeah. And he gets fooled by, I think he gets bested by children a lot.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I don't think that every, every turn he does and he's begging them for his own cereal. It's sad and embarrassing. Yeah, it's pathetic. The honey not Cheerios B just stings one person and then is dead by the rules of SEALs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Snap, snap, snap, crackle, pop. There's three of them. So that's big too. Uh, that honeycombs, uh, little monster from the nineties. Yeah. Oh, that's, that's big. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:55 That's a scary looking mascot. Scary looking man. He's nuts. Yeah. I brought up Count Chocula's Wikipedia and they say his first name is Alfred. Did you know this count Alfred Chocula? Oh, he's going to lose.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Yeah. Yeah. That makes it less fun and makes him less scary. Less scary. But yeah, exactly. So I'm, I've narrowed mine down. Yeah. I got Tony the tiger and the other guy I'm kind of thinking of right now is the
Starting point is 01:33:27 Quaker Oats guy. Quaker Oats guy, you know that he's probably just like the captain there. He could probably fuck some people up, but I think I have an answer. I got a route for the home team. That's right. The Lucky Charms leprechaun. Wow. I don't know where he's got the power of a leprechaun, which as we've seen in
Starting point is 01:33:55 the movies, the leprechaun movies, it's pretty fucked up. He can fuck some people up. I'm going leprechaun, lucky the leprechaun. He's going to win the Mortal Kombat event. He's, he's got, he's got magic on his side. And I think that he can even defeat Count Chocolet if he's immortal. Yeah. Uh, I'm, uh, it was between, uh, the badass commando, uh, captain of Crunch,
Starting point is 01:34:20 which also, let me say this, his name is Captain Crunch. As in his specialty is breaking bones, probably. Fair. You know what I mean? Like you don't get that name just for, for shit. Like he is Captain Crunch. Like if that means he's, he probably like, it's curbstom people. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:41 Like, I agree with you. He is putting, putting in that context since it doesn't evoke serious. I would think it makes you think of like Sergeant Slaughter. It sounds menacing. You know, it's in the same kit, Sergeant Slaughter, Captain Crunch, commando, crush, you know, like these are like, so that said, uh, my head, my head went immediately to American history X when you said it gave me, it gave me a look into Captain Crunch that I did not want to, I did something that I did not
Starting point is 01:35:10 want to associate him with, but no, but, but you're, you're right. Captain. I mean, he's an old, he's an old salty dog. He's a little salty dog. He's seen a lot of shit and, uh, you know, he's probably done a lot of shit, but that said, uh, I think, uh, the fact that you have this bipedal. Huge chested, huge armed tiger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Cause we haven't even seen him use his claws yet. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And just he'd, he'd wreck anybody with like a punch from that tiger arm and like, that's, that's him on two legs. If he got down on all fours and really started like chasing after you.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah. You know what I mean? I think, I think you're fricking done and he has the power to bring out the tiger and you. So I think that is, I think he wins. That's like his finishing move. Wow. I, I think that you're, look, that was my first thought.
Starting point is 01:36:02 And I think you're right. I think, I think the tiger. It's hard to compete with that. He's also just like, let's be honest, he's hot as shit. Like he's like the honkiest, super sexy. I'm going to go with a, with an offbeat pick. And I am going to say thinking, uh, I think of this in a fighting games context. Let me guess, sexy hamburger.
Starting point is 01:36:29 No, Mitch. I was going to stick to serial mascots. I was going to say like the, like the duck hunt dog and, um, uh, uh, the duck hunt dog combo in Smash Brothers, like Banjo Kazooie, like the ice climbers, a combo character, snap, crackle and pop. Wow. The rice Krispies guys, the triforce of rice Krispies. I think they could be a potent matchup for anyone in this competition.
Starting point is 01:36:54 You're so wrong, but it's not. That is nice of you. They could hit you with some razzle dazzle. That's all I'm saying. I think that's all they've got. I think in the movie of this, right? They're pretty early on because they're like, oh no, I have to fight all three of these guys and you're like, yeah, but you, and like the, each one represents
Starting point is 01:37:13 something different, right? Like like the triforce, one is mine, one is body, one is, you know, spirit. Um, but then like once you clue in and you notice that while one is attacking the other one, two, the other two are like hanging back or while two are attacking one is hanging back, you figure that out and you knock them out and then they don't know what to do. And then that's how you know that the character who's doing it is going to win the whole tournament.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Yeah. Yeah. That's good. We can, we can just punch these three foot tall men like this is trivial. That's my, that's my argument to that. No, that's fair. And it's hard to refute. Uh, but hey, let us know who you think would win in this brawl.
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Starting point is 01:38:13 I've seen the film. I really, really enjoy the film. You're great in the film. Mitch is great in the film. I hope everyone checks it out on Amazon prime. Tell us anything you'd like to us to know about it and anything else you'd like to plug. Also watch where was within, uh, you know, comes out on video on demand
Starting point is 01:38:29 tomorrow also, uh, double featured night, you know, see tomorrow war and see where was within. Make it, make it that out. Make it a Sam Richardson week. You got, you got, you got, you got, you got that. You got where was within. You got tomorrow war. You got, I think you should leave at season two.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Get, you get, get them all. Watch it all. Get all, watch it all. Watch it all. One of the funniest. Check it all out. Watch me on your television. One of the funniest guys on the planet.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Thank you so much for making time for us, Sam. Yeah. So, so funny. Yeah. I love it. You guys are the best. It's really fun. And again, many apologies, many apologies.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. It was Burger King one, uh, just so you know, and hey, Mitch, that'll do it for this episode of dough boys until next time for Mr. Slice Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weigar. Happy eating.
Starting point is 01:39:18 See ya. But wait, there's more. That's right, Mitch. We have a little bonus here. That's right. We talked. Yes. No, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:39:31 I was going to say we talked. That's how we want to tee it up, right? And we'll work your magic in post. Wise, go ahead. Yeah. We had the opportunity to talk with the star of the tomorrow war. Chris Pratt. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Earlier this week. And, uh, we're going to play that interview for you now. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. You know our guests from as many credits, including Jurassic World and Jurassic
Starting point is 01:40:07 World Fallen Kingdom, his new film, The Tomorrow War is streaming July 2nd on Amazon Prime. Chris Pratt is here. Hi, Chris. Hi. What's up, guys? Wow. Thank you for being here, Chris.
Starting point is 01:40:17 We know you're extremely busy and you have, you're filming a TV show. You're doing press for this movie. And today's your anniversary. Is that correct? Yes. Happy anniversary. As a support. Happy anniversary.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Thank you so much. Yeah. Happy anniversary. Um, thank you. Yeah. We're, uh, you'll like this. We're going to do in and out. That's the plan.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Take it in and out. That's Nick's favorite restaurant. Is that right? Yeah. I'm a lifelong, uh, Southern Californian. There you go. So I've, uh, in and out for me was always good report card, but for you, it's and it's anniversary.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Yeah. Anniversary. Cause we've been, you know, trying to keep it tight for this show and it's like kind of a cheat moment and also doing this press stuff all day. So it's like we couldn't really end tomorrow. So I couldn't like go out and do a big dinner or anything. So we're just like, God, what's like the best thing we could do is, is going to be in and out.
Starting point is 01:41:06 We were actually driving down from this weekend from Santa Barbara and we passed and in and out and I just looked at her. I was like, let's go. And she was like, should we, and the baby was in the back of sleep. And she was like, I just free. And I said, what, what if we do it for our anniversary? And she just got so giddy. So this is what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Wow. Chris, what's your go to it in and out? What is your, are you doing animal fries or a double classic double double? What's, what's, what do you go to? I mean, usually I'll do like two double doubles. I'll just do two double doubles. And, uh, sometimes I'll mix it up and go triple to triple triples. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Damn. It's a lot of meat. It's a lot of meat. It's a bitch sized meal right there. I, that's. I got it though. I can put it away. I like it.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Um, you know, I'm not a huge fan of their fries though. I think their fries kind of suck. So I just mostly go with the burgers. I might go like some with like, instead of a bun, wrap it up with the, and like the protein style, but honestly, it just, it's not the same. The bun is really special there. I like the bun on, on the in and out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:06 That's sponge dough is, is classic. I, to your point of the fries, I'm a defender of the fries, but I'm not going to fight anyone who says the fries are bad because they're very specific. Like, first of all, with whoever it was, you definitely lose the fight. Yeah, they're not good. I mean, that's a testament to how good the burger is though. Right. When you can, when you can pull off some fries that are like, uh, that
Starting point is 01:42:32 tastes like someone tried to make French fries at home, like for the first time, like they're experimenting with maybe making French fries at home. That's kind of what it tastes like to me. Like it's like barely a catch-up delivery system. Yes. Right. They taste stale to me even when fresh. That is my, that's my issue with it in and out fries.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Yeah. They're not good. Yeah. I, I, I like a good, crispy, like fry when you bite into it. The potato on the inside is kind of smooshy, but the outside is a little more crispy. That's a little better for me. Well, Chris, there's this annoying thing.
Starting point is 01:43:04 I mean, look, people probably ask you this all the time and it's annoying. My friend, Dan, I'll refers to you as a daywalker in a way of a big guy who lost weight and then, and then stayed, didn't go back, didn't bounce back from blade, a day like from blade. Like from blade, they, they walk on the other side, you know, you, you lose weight and then a lot of big guys lose weight and they go back. But this, I'm sure one is, is it annoying for people to always cause I feel like if anything, you were a husky, right?
Starting point is 01:43:34 Like I, I, I didn't, I, I never, I mean, you were big for sure, but you carried it well. A man with a normal body, I'd say. Yes. Yeah. Pretty, yeah, pretty, pretty normal. I mean, first of all, big in, in probably mass, just because I'm tall and broad shoulders, so I'm like a big guy.
Starting point is 01:43:52 So it's not hard for me to be, I'm probably 240 pounds right now and feel like I look good, you know, or not look, I feel like I look good, but I look better now and I look, I don't look like what you're, if you took like an average median of a 240 pound guy, I think that like, I carry it okay, but there was a moment I was 295, that was the highest I ever was. And so I've been, I've been, I've been on that roller coaster. I know what it's like to go up and to go down. And oftentimes when I was my biggest, it was trying to gain weight for a movie
Starting point is 01:44:27 role. And so I've really let the movie schedule, dictate and determine my weight cutting. And I was a wrestler growing up. And so like dropping a ton of weight was always a challenge. You took it as like a personal challenge to be able to cut weight and make weight on a weekly basis. And so, so that was part of the trash bags and shit, which is trash bags and dehydration routines and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:48 It's not good for you. And ultimately, like, uh, I think when it all settles out and I go back to living a normal life, I definitely have a, I just care, I'm just a bigger guy. I'm going to carry more weight. I'm going to have more body fat than your average guy. Just cause it's a genetic thing. And I like to eat and I like to, you know, indulge and I'm kind of a binge eater. It's like, yeah, I can't just have a little bite of something.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Like someone would be like, just have a bite of dessert. And I'm like, you know what I'm saying? That's crack cocaine to me. Yeah, you give me that one bite of dessert. And I'm going to be looking for, I'll be digging through the carpet for bits of cheesecake later, you know, that's, I can't help it. I once I, once I break the seal, I'm done. I'm been, I'm like that with everything with anything.
Starting point is 01:45:33 I just binge on it. So if it's like alcohol, I don't have just like a quick shot. I'm like, okay, cool. We're going to drink all the alcohol in the house for two days. And like, you know, same with food, sugar, just done. So I have to stay, I have to kind of be totally clean, clear of it or else I'm in trouble. Well, Chris, just comparatively, Nick is probably around 240 and he looks kind of
Starting point is 01:45:54 like shit. And anytime I've been, anytime I've been 140 pounds, which was probably back in middle school, didn't look, I didn't look good, but you're, you're looking great. But do you, do you miss, do you miss that? Do you miss the fast food sometimes? Do you miss, were you, and were you ever a big fast food guy or was it something that you kind of? Yeah, I miss it.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Yeah, I definitely miss it. I do miss it. Yeah, I miss it. It's, I've traded out the excitement of eating fast food and for like the really dull eating just food for fuel. You know, it's like, there's nothing sexy about mealtime anymore, which is a really a bummer because it's like, in a free society, that's like, you should really enjoy sitting down and eating your meals.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I don't, that's like, when it's time to eat, it's like the most depressing part of the day for me, like, oh, man, this is what I'm eating. It's that'll work, I suppose. Like, I'm not going to starve to death because I have this in my stomach, but there's no joy in this. So yeah, I miss it. I miss it, but, you know, I have the opposite feeling basically of the rest of the day, very depressing
Starting point is 01:47:07 food time break. I want to eat a tie. Well, look, I mean, I've noticed I've thought about that before. It is kind of like a photo negative in it. Like, because during the rest of the day, it feels, it feels better. So it's like, if you take the scale of like, peeking at meal time and then in between going down, it is the truly the opposite. I'm kind of riding high and then it's meal time and I get really depressed.
Starting point is 01:47:36 But then the in between part is nice. So. So it's, it sounds like you have to be pretty absolutist about your diet. Like, so when you're just in a, when you're in the mode where you're like, okay, I have to, I have to have the superhero physique. It's basically like, there's no cheat days or anything. You're just completely there's no in that mode. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I give myself cheat days, but I have to earn the cheat days by going through a long desert of no cheat days until I get to a point. And then I can implement a cheat day, but I have to get right back on it. I have to make sure the cheat. What, like, I saw this on a meme, like I have to make sure the cheat day doesn't turn into a snaccident and like a snaccident can be like a six month long
Starting point is 01:48:15 cheat day. Yeah. So I got to make sure I don't have a snaccident. I'm, I'm afraid I'm going to pull a snack aside. The cops. Mitch, no. An empty bag of Doritos and just on the floor. Hey, speaking of Doritos, Mitch.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Yes. This is a thing that you've brought up on the podcast before. The Tomorrow War is not your first collaboration. The two of you work together on, on Parks and Rec. Yes. Chris, I was going to, I was going to quick, I was going to ask you that too. You can't name your favorite actor in the movie with you, but who is like your favorite actor that was also, uh, on Parks and Rec in the movie besides yourself?
Starting point is 01:48:55 Gosh, I'd have to say it's Mike. Yeah. Hell yeah. Wow. Yes. What a compliment. 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Um, yeah, I love that. I love that connection. I love, I love, I love that connection. For members of Pawnee, I was Bjorn Lurpus for a very brief appearance, appearances that probably no one remembers. Bjorn Lurpus is the perfect, uh, Mike's sure name. Like he comes up with the funniest names for characters in Pawnee. Bjorn Lurpus is exactly, uh, Mike's sure concoction identity.
Starting point is 01:49:28 There was a funny thing for a while where, where there was like a whole character. They, the, the Parks Room wrote a whole character bio on Bjorn Lurpus. And it was on like IMDB, which was the nicest thing on earth. It was, it was very, he was like a fool. He was like the fool of the full family, basically. But Nick, I, I, I know what you're bringing up. You're bringing up a point, Chris. On the podcast long ago, I brought up a, I brought up a story when I was on set.
Starting point is 01:49:53 This is embarrassing in many ways where I brought up the Doritos Locos taco to you when we were in the shade and the, in the, in the ride, the ride back from set. We were in the van, basically when we were in Transpo. And, uh, and I said that I basically said you were at the time I was, I like, was like, you were just, this is before the movie. And I said that you didn't care much about the Doritos Locos taco. Um, you said cool dude to me, which I, which I had wondered at the time, if it was like a, if you, if you didn't care at all, but have you tried
Starting point is 01:50:23 the Doritos Locos taco? Well, let's, let's admit just trying to whitewash this a little bit. The way you characterized it on the podcast is that you said this is when the Doritos Locos taco was a new item at Taco Bell. And you said that you told Chris about it because I'm sure you don't remember this, but he told us about it. And, and Chris was kind of like, cool dude. Like with a little bit of attitude.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Oh, well, that makes for a better story. That makes for the better story. Now, hold on. I could see that. I could see why that would make for the better story. It's better. It's a better story. If you tell the story and you're like, you told him about the, and he's like,
Starting point is 01:50:56 yeah, cool dude, which now, now hold on a second. First of all, Dick, your piece of shit. The movie hasn't come out yet. And, uh, you're not going to get edited out of the movie for this anecdote. Second of all, he might have, you might have genuinely been saying, cool, dude, I, I, who knows at the time, but also in Mitch's head, it could have been a misread more than anything.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Have you ever tried the Doritos Locos taco? It's, it's something that we had to talk about because our, our listeners would go and saying if we didn't bring it up. So, yes. So the Doritos, I have not, I have not had the Doritos Locos. Isn't it, isn't it just like a taco that has the Dorito nacho cheese powder on it? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Yes. Which is, which by the way, to me is like one of the greatest food inventions of all time. Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. That's, that's, that's the, that's the magic dust. Yes.
Starting point is 01:51:49 That's actually one, it's just one molecule away from angel dust. And it's the kind of angel dust you can take that doesn't make you want to jump out of a window. Uh, yeah, that's, that sounds so good. I, I, I'm a huge, huge Taco Bell fan. I love Taco Bell. I grew up in a town. It was like one of these American towns where every new fast food chain that came
Starting point is 01:52:18 to our small town, it was like a moment for the town. And the first one was a McDonald's. It was like, oh my God, we have a McDonald's. This is legit. Like we're not just some place out in the middle of the sticks anymore. We're a real town. And then the next one was Taco Bell. And Taco Bell was like the meetup spot.
Starting point is 01:52:36 We used to always meet at Taco Bell and fight the kids from the neighboring town. Like that was the spot that was like the park in like, uh, you know, where they would have the rumble in, in, uh, uh, the outsiders was in the park. It was rumble at Taco Bell. So we'd go to Taco Bell and fight these kids. I think someone, one kid got shot there and Jesus. That was, that was, we had, we had, we had a, the seven 11 slash Burger King was our spot for that where Milton and Quincy kids fought.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Milton kids were kind of like snootier and Quincy kids were kind of like more working class and not me. I was, I was afraid of everyone and, and, uh, Nick knows this, but there was a fight one time and I, and I, the cops came and I ran away and, and I was in the car and I realized it was in a car with like the bad guys. I'd gotten into a car with all the Milton kids and they were like, what are you doing in here? We're going to kick your ass.
Starting point is 01:53:26 And I was like, Oh God, um, but one of my, one of my Milton friends was in there and they let me off, but we had, we, it's very strange. And when kids have those like, uh, they pick us a rumble spot, a rumble spot. I would have never dared to go to one of these places, but I do remember the local Tommy's burger by my high school was like a flash point for conflict. Why, why, why are kids congregating at fast food restaurants to get in fist fights? What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:53:50 You would, you would have been, you would have been one of the socials flags and you would have been, you probably would have been the guy in outsiders who gets killed in the, in the fountain. Immediately before the opening credits, I guess it's just really, it's really animal, isn't it? I mean, if you think about it, it's like the Serengeti, it's always the watering hole where the animals all converge and start smoking each other. So I'm one of those animals when they're, they're fighting that one of those
Starting point is 01:54:18 animals that's still just grazing on the side, just eating food. Chris, this brings us into a fact that, that Nick told me about yesterday. I did not know, but you, you once worked at a Bubba Gump shrimp factory. Is this true in Hawaii? Yes. Yeah. The Bubba Gump shrimp company. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:36 In Atlanta, Hawaii. That's wild. I was, I was a waiter there, server there. Um, it's, if you've ever been to one of those restaurants, it's really a place where they appreciate a sort of gregarious, uh, wait staff that like sings the birthday song and does all the flair and super, you know, gets into it. Makes it, uh, an exciting experience for the, for the patrons. And so that was a good job for me.
Starting point is 01:55:06 I really liked it. And it was in Hawaii. So it was, it was, it was pretty dope right on front street in Lahaina and Maui. So I was, it was a great job. Did, did you have to, did you have to be up to date on like, on Gump lore? Did you have to know, like, did you have to know your Gump facts? Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:21 They have these things called the five musts with the, with the five conceptual musts for like, you know, it's very corporate. And so you go through there and one of the things after like putting down the drink paddle and telling them about like, you know, uh, Jenny's strawberry, lemonade, margarita, whatever it was, you had to, you had to ask, uh, some questions, some Bubba Gump trivia, uh, to the, to the, to the table. And it was like, this was 19 or this is like 1999, 2000. So the movie had come out probably, I want to say probably 94, maybe 94, 95.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Yeah. So it was still pretty fresh in the, in this, in the minds of people. I mean, I, I, it was a little high on its own supply though. It's like, Hey, you want, you're like, let's do trivia from the movie. And it's like, can you imagine a movie now? Like, I guess it could be like a marvel, they could be like a marvel. I guess there probably is. There's like a Disneyland, they have like Marvel world.
Starting point is 01:56:22 They probably have like, or whatever it's called. So they probably have like, you know, Ironman cafe and then do trivia from the movie or something. I'm just thinking of all the nerds hearing you say, like, they have like Marvel world or whatever and being like, it's the Avengers campus. Sorry, it's the Avengers campus. I knew it was called something. I haven't been there yet.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Yes. I'm very excited about, about going to the Avengers. Have you been able, have you been able to ride the, the, the Guardians of the Galaxy ride at, at California adventures? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I took my son on it when he was probably five, which was too young.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Yeah. And I said, all right, buddy, this is going to be a four minute ride. And once we're strapped in, we're going to go, he's like, dad, I got this. And then they started in three seconds and he goes, I want off, I want off. So I spent the entire ride just holding him tender sweet boy. Like, we got this. We're almost done. He's like, get me off of this one.
Starting point is 01:57:20 It was awesome. Actually mortifying. And I had done the Tower of Terror before. Yes. The ride that our ride supplanted and, and, uh, this one seemed much scarier and like, uh, you know, more, I don't know, like got, got turned my stomach more, maybe because of the experience with my son, or maybe just cause I'm getting a little older.
Starting point is 01:57:41 I know like you kind of like your equilibrium goes out, the older you get, but yeah, I'm not a, I'm not a big rides guy anymore. Well, it's, it's, they do, they toss you around a lot more. And also I had that exact same experience with Nick, almost verbatim. Uh, yeah, which cradled me. It was very sweet. You got through it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Oh, I do. I have another Bubba Gump shrimp company question, which is the, uh, as a server, they have the run forest run and the stop forest stop signs. Yes. Uh, uh, do you remember that? And like, how did you feel about that? Cause I always feel so guilty turning that over. If I'm dining in at the Bubba Gump.
Starting point is 01:58:18 I, it's actually brilliant. It's actually brilliant. I'll tell you why. Cause if you're in like, it's, it's a brilliant corporate model for a restaurant because A, you're paying a massive overhead for this waterfront property. So what you really need to do is turn tables over. Turn and burn, get as many people through as possible. And how many times have you been at a restaurant and you want to get someone's
Starting point is 01:58:37 attention and you're, you're like, but you don't want to like call out. Like we literally will tell you at the top, like, if you need anything at all, flip that sign over and someone will come like, get this done. Whatever you need, come get it done. Don't feel guilty about it. Just flip this sign and you'll have someone within 10 seconds, giving you literally anything you want. So you over use the sign and we would like, you wouldn't, if you saw a red sign,
Starting point is 01:59:01 no matter what table it was, whether it was your table or not, you go to the sign. And so it's like, people get exactly what they need right away. And it's a better dining experience for the person that's sitting there and eating enough to wait for things. But also it allows you as a server, it's the best because you just get people out of there. And then you like to have like 10 times, you know, you might have like 15 to 20% more tables that day because you're able to turn these things over and you get
Starting point is 01:59:25 more tip money. It's like, it's better for everybody. I like it. You get like kick people out and just like, hurry up. The minute you give them dessert, you give them the check as well. It was like, all right, you guys, you know, you're all done. And then you send it right to the merch shop to buy t-shirts and margarita glasses or whatever.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Like we had, there was a whole, there was a whole system. That place was just a gold mine. I think it may have went out of business though. I was wondering, I wonder if there will be like a gump assance where, where people go back to that restaurant. And if there, if, if, if there's a sequel, Nick and I have talked about the sequel before, there's a book for like a gump to where gump causes like why to K or gump, gump is Becky with the good hair, like stupid shit like that.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Like a predated that. And it's still in there. Gump is a pilot on his plane. The weird shit like, oh no. And Gump is on Epstein Island. Gump kills Epstein in prison. Gump is the guy who killed Epstein in prison. I can't wait to see that sequel.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Um, yeah, he's so good. Well, when you, when you were, when you were, when you were working there, Chris, is that a sort of thing of, of you would, would you, would you grab stuff to go? Or is it like, I'm just sick of this, this food. I'm not, it was like 99% of what I ate the entire time I lived on Maui. We would just eat, I would eat just people's leftovers because you had like the tunnel between the area where people would eat. And then the tunnel is like where all the soft drinks are served and they keep
Starting point is 02:00:51 the condiments and the extra pepper, salt and pepper shakers and the silverware, et cetera, and you would walk through the tunnel and dump the food out and then walk into the kitchen corner and drop off the, the cleared plates for the dishwasher. And then on the way out, you'd grab food and you'd deliver to table. So it was like this constant circle and everyone in the tunnel, that's where we all ate. So you like, it came down to like, you'd have to be like a Savannah monitor, you know, like you would just like straight up eat as much as you could in
Starting point is 02:01:20 the seven steps between the restaurant and the kitchen in the tunnel. So I'd, I just hammer everything. When I get hungry, I'd start really recommending the things that I wanted to eat to people who looked like they could eat the, the least amount of food. They're like, what do you recommend? I'm like, darling peel and eats, pound and a half. Let's get those for you. Cool. Anything else?
Starting point is 02:01:39 All right, see you in a second. Now, Chris, I've heard stories about you on, on set, like on, on Parks and Rec, like, uh, that you could, you would eat, uh, you, you would, with during takes, you would just, you would just pound food where it was as an actor, usually supposed to spit it out. I like, I like the way you do it. I kind of try to do the same thing of just, of eating whatever, whatever's put in front of you.
Starting point is 02:02:05 But I heard that you've done, you've, you've pulled off some fantastic feats with, with food on set. Is that true? Yeah, it kind of becomes a thing that if you, like the minute you become known for it, then it's a challenge. And so I think I've had like, you know, 15 or 20 racks of ribs or like, you know, uh, come on, I'm always eating some, I think I ate it like a whole roast one time back on, back on this show, Everwood.
Starting point is 02:02:28 And like, I, you know, back on this show, Everwood, we had this Ian Roy Lance is our prop master and his mom would cook for us for our big dinner scenes. And they're like this wonderful Mormon family that like the Maricana cooking of just like roast hams and turkeys. And we just have this full spread every time we would sit down to have a dinner scene. And here I was like a 21 or 22 or 23 year old kid living in like some kind of slummed out house and Salt Lake city and just wanting nothing more than a
Starting point is 02:03:01 big family meal. So every time I'd have this family meal, I was just, I would turn it on. I'd turn on the jets at rules. And I think it's cause I grew up in a household of five people where we never had 10 servings. We had like five people in seven servings. So if you were going to be the one to get the second serving, you had to race. Like you couldn't grab the next piece until you were done.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Oh yeah. And so it was like prison, you know, you just eat as fast as you can to get that next little bit. And so that's like that combination of things. I just, you can't put food in front of me and I don't eat it. I do it mindlessly. I don't even think about it. It'll just be gone.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Yeah. Well, you look bad ass as hell in tomorrow war and the movie is great. I got to see it with my, with my, with my mom and sister. There's actually, there's a scene. I don't want to give too much away, but there's a scene in a stairwell. I'll just say that there's a scene in the stairwell, which I'm doing a great job of making people excited. There's a scene in the stairwell.
Starting point is 02:03:55 And you guys like stairs, right? Ascending and descending to different floors. That's what kids are into. We went up and down these stairs in the course of filming. And there's a scene where, where, where basically we're running down the stairs and, and, um, and you, at one point you, you tripped over my foot. And, uh, and you tripped over my foot. And because I was like backed up, I couldn't, I couldn't move at all.
Starting point is 02:04:24 And you tripped over my foot, but you, you pulled it off and you fell down and you fell into a slide and you slid against the wall and you shot your gun. And you looked cool as hell. It was like the, it was, it was insane. And I, and I was starting to wonder if, if my goofiness makes people cooler. Just being around me, maybe it may be just like, hmm, makes people, except for you, Weigar, you're the one person that doesn't seem to work. But you pulled it off and it looked, it looked cool.
Starting point is 02:04:52 It looked cool as hell. I remember that. I remember that specifically. Yeah. And first of all, you're awesome in that whole scene. That whole sequence is amazing. You're awesome in it. And you, you basically have the reveal, like you give the audience
Starting point is 02:05:07 the reveal for the first, like you're the, you do it. Like you're illuminating this monster for the audience to see for the first time. And it's an amazing reveal. I think they did a terrific job. And by the way, I mean, we, you know, we did a terrific job and you're the one who does the real, and I remember tripping over your foot and I remember going through the wall, like I literally broke a two by four with my back and it worked so well because it needed to be shaken up and needed to feel a little frantic.
Starting point is 02:05:36 I tripped over your foot into the wall and McKay was like, that was really good. Can you do that again? I was like, oh, OK. So like, I was like, oh, you want, you thought that was good. And then the next time I went like way overboard and I broke the wall and they they just used the one where I tripped over your foot. It's all natural. I never forget.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Yeah, you did great. You're great in it, man. You do an awesome job. Well, thank you. I was, I was going to say that there, you know, there was a, there was a, there was a place in the movie where there was a role that opened up and you had the confidence to put me in that role and I will never forget it. I appreciate it so much.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I loved the opportunity. I had a blast. I had a blast filming it too. It was, it was great. And the food in Atlanta was amazing. I want to go back down there just for that reason. There was there was so much good stuff. Were you able to, were you able to enjoy that?
Starting point is 02:06:26 Well, let's not gloss over the part that you said first. I'm more to get to the food in Atlanta, but you said something about that. I had the confidence in you to put you in that role and hope that, and that's true. I did have the confidence in you. And I have a lot of friends and a lot of people that I'm close with that I don't put into movies because I, that, and I don't. So just to say that I didn't do it because I really like you as a person. I do really like you as a person.
Starting point is 02:06:50 I did it because you're great. I did it because you're really good in the role and it makes sense. And you know, this is our movie too. And every move we made out there was to make the movie better. And that was another example of a move that we made to make the movie better. I think you do an awesome job in the role. And I loved it. I loved working with you and I'd love to do it again sometime.
Starting point is 02:07:10 So just to not gloss over that, that moment, I remember that. And that role opened up and it was like a no brainer to have you step up and have a bigger role than originally intended. Oh man, you just, you made my day. I'll, I'll, I'll my mum will, my mum will cry hearing this. That was, that's too, that's too kind. She's sitting in the other room just listening. But no, that's, I'm uncomfortable with, with nice things being said about me.
Starting point is 02:07:37 That's why I was squirming around because that is I thought. So I just wanted to really turn the screws to you and say like, let me just tell you exactly why you're so great. No, I mean, I got, I got what I, I got what I wanted out of that. Nick, Nick, Nick has disappeared. Nick, Nick heard, Nick heard all that and has signed off. Apparently, he's mad. Yeah. He's like, all right, I quit.
Starting point is 02:08:01 What the fuck's going on? He left, he left, he left us. But no, the movie, the movie's awesome. I don't, I don't, we're, we're running tight on time, but it was awesome for you to, for, to take a time to talk to us even and, and yeah, likewise. I, I loved, I loved hanging out with you and we had a good time down there. The last night we hung out was a lot of fun too. Yeah, that was cool.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Yeah, it was a good time. And that was like a tie it on, get it done at the wrap party kind of a night. That was a wild night. Yeah, that was, that was, it was a wild, it was great. And I, and I look forward to seeing you in LA if, if, if they, if they have a rollout for this thing. Yeah, that'd be good. That'd be great.
Starting point is 02:08:37 I like that. Where are you now? Where are you guys doing this from? I'm in my basement in Quincy, Massachusetts at my mom's house. Okay, got it. And I've been here since, since August, basically. So I'm coming, I'm coming back this Saturday. So you are.
Starting point is 02:08:49 Yeah. Good. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited to come back to, to LA. But I've been here through all of COVID. Yeah, good. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:56 But, um, Chris, yeah, is there, is there anything else you would like to plug now that Nick's gone? Yeah, let's just talk shit about Nick. Let's just spend the next, if you would like, you can be the second co-host. You can be the other co-host of Doe Boys. I mean, you, you probably can't just eat at the restaurants. But yeah, I'd be the worst. I'd be the worst Doe Boys guests to be like, all right, Chris, enough talk
Starting point is 02:09:17 about how eating is boring, but not eating is healthy in the field. So like, you already had lost half your audience when I did not. No way. They're going to love it. I can't think of anything else I want to plug, but I can say tomorrow war, you know, July 2nd, it's on Amazon Prime. Come, uh, see it. Mike's great.
Starting point is 02:09:35 It's an awesome movie. It's testing very well. It's a huge movie. And it's the kind of movie that, um, was intended to be seen in theaters, but due to the pandemic, we're going to see it on an amazing streamer. So get a big TV with lots of, uh, music if you can. Or like lots of good audio system, if you can, and turn your, do yourself the favor of, of giving yourself the cinema experience by turning your
Starting point is 02:09:57 phone off and actually being present for the movie. I think that's a big thing that is a big gift of what I love about going to movies is like, when, when can you ever be in a room of 200 or, you know, a hundred people or whatever. And everyone has agreed that, okay, we're going to have our phones off for two hours and share this community experience. That's an increasingly rare situation. And so even at home, when I watched up on streamers, I'm like, actually
Starting point is 02:10:19 like scrolling through Instagram and like multitasking, watching something and doing something else. So yeah, turn your phone off and, and watch the movie or not do whatever you want. But if you do that, I promise you it, it'll be a better experience. You're, you're, you're great in a two and watching on the biggest speakers you can, you can find because it's, uh, cause Lorne Palf's score is awesome. And the, and just the sound when you feel it is great and you're awesome.
Starting point is 02:10:41 And at Chris, and thank you for joining us. We'll, uh, we'll see you next time. Thank you, dude. Sounds good, brother. All right. All right. Wow. That was our interview with Chris Pratt and Weigert.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Weigert disappeared, right? When he was saying all the nice, nice things about me. Hey, I'm back. What did I miss? This is bullshit. This is, so Mitch, we, uh, we're recording this later. My internet legitimately died with like two minutes left in the interview. We had like a, a, you know, is, uh, it was during a junket situation.
Starting point is 02:11:16 So, uh, the time was being monitored. And so we had like 28 minutes on the 30 minute, uh, allotment we had with Pratt, uh, who was lovely to talk to and very generous with his time. And at that point, he's obviously saying something very, very, uh, genuine, just such an incredible heartfelt compliment towards you. And it's like my computer was like, uh, he's not going to want to see this. And then just, and then just shut off my connection. I got booted out.
Starting point is 02:11:47 First of all, it was hard to tell you were gone for so long because you were just sitting still like normally and had no expression on your face, which is just kind of, just kind of the norm. So I was like, uh, and you know, I, but it, it turned into a very much a, uh, uh, just like when you weren't on stage in Seattle, a Wayne's world situation where I didn't know what to do, especially getting compliments, which I don't deal well with. Um, so it would, so of course, yeah, of course you couldn't stay in the
Starting point is 02:12:18 compliments, your computer rejected it, you rejected it, and you were gone. It's bullshit. Um, but it was incredible. What an incredibly nice thing to say. You know, one of the biggest, one of the biggest movie stars in the world saying that he wanted you in the role and that you were, that you were great. Like, how great is that? Do you think he meant like an actual, like a, like a bread roll?
Starting point is 02:12:42 Yeah. I think he's just craving carbs at this point. Wise, it was a great, it was, it was great talking with, with Pratt. And it was great having Sam on this episode as well. What, what, what, what, what a, what a nice wrap up to the official, the tomorrow war month. It's official now. It's now official.
Starting point is 02:13:06 Bezos cut us a check. Bezos cut us a check. Let's see. Wow. It's a new, it's a, it's a new media deal. Okay. Hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:16 We each get 13 cents. I'll take it, honestly. Yeah, me too. All right. Officially the tomorrow war month and it's officially come to an end. Wow, Wags, what a way to wrap it up. What a way to wrap it up. Check out the tomorrow war.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Mitch is great in it. It's out tomorrow, July 2nd on Amazon Prime. Wow. Yeah, do it. Well, that about does it for this week's dough boys. Till next time, I'm the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Happy eating. Oh, wait, I gotta, I gotta say you, I gotta say your name too.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Fuck, hold on. This is great. Emma, don't leave too much of this in. All right. That about does it for this week's dough boys for Nick, the burger boy, Wiger. I'm the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Happy eating. See ya.
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