Doughboys - California Fish Grill with Gil Ozeri

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

Gil Ozeri (@tallgilozeri, Kevin) joins the 'boys to talk voice acting, first date movies, and writers room eats before a review of California Fish Grill. Plus, another edition of Drank or Stank.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.alimentarium.org/en/fact-sheet/history-aquaculturehttps://asc-aqua.org/blog/aquaculture-a-practice-with-an-ancient-past/https://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/aquaculture/https://thehumaneleague.org/article/factory-fish-farminghttps://www.cafishgrill.com/pages/responsibly-sourcedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to YouTube.com slash doughboys media. Wyggs, this spring frame what makes your mom special with aura frames. Well, Mitch, what's something your mom does that feels small but actually defines a lot? You know, she's always checking in on me. It's nice.

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That's A-U-R-A-Frames.com promo code Doe Boys. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. Wigs, we're back on the road for one final summer stretch. Wow. And let me say, I'm developing a draw, y'all, y'all, because we're going to the south. That's right, Wax.

Oh, you are, too. Me too. How about that? We're going to be, for the first time, going to North Carolina and Georgia. That's right. May 27th will be at the Rally Improv in Raleigh, North Carolina. May 28th, will be at the Comedy Zone in Charlotte, North Carolina, and May 29th, two shows at the City Winery in Atlanta, Georgia.

Tickets for the second show is still available. With special guest, I'm going to say it, Carl Tart. That's right. Mississippi's own, Carl Tart, will be joining us for this trip south of the Mason-Dixon line where we'll be visiting Raleigh, Charlotte, and Atlanta in three nights. I love it, Wags. How fun is that going to be?

It's going to be a blast, and we're not going to be on tour again until November, so you better come out. That's a good point, Mitch. This will be the last time you could catch the doughboys live on the road until later this year, like pretty late this year. So come out. So come on out. We'll see you there.

Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta, May 27 through 29th, tickets at birdfuck.com slash live. And if we room together, maybe I'll go south of the Mason-Dixon line. Don't tempt me with a good time, partner. Factory farming, the mechanized food production system that brutalizes livestock and devastates ecosystems, has justifiably been criticized as a great shame of our time. But the industrialization of the food supply has naturally also extended to our waterways, a practice officially known as aquaculture and colloquially known as fish.

fish farming. With the growth of the global human population leading to an ever-increasing hunger for seafood, the stagnant wild-caught fish industry is unable to keep up with demand. And while some more holistic approaches, foster a polyculture that mitigates waste while sourcing fish, shellfish, and algae in synergy. This is, naturally, more expensive. And so many more aqua farms consist of indoor tanks jam-packed to the literal gills with fish who live out their lives in darkness surrounded by their own excrement.

And considering how the vast majority of farm seafood consumed in the U.S. is harvested in foreign countries that are often even less regulated than are, fuck it, do whatever, domestic industry, most seafood sold as of dubious quality raised in foul conditions. But some food service establishments, more aware of the problem than the general public, are opting out of industrialized aquaculture in favor of more sustainable methods. And one pioneer is a Golden State Fast Casual Fish Restaurant founded in 1998 in the Japanese-American Enclave, of Gardina. The seafood eatery, or cedery, quickly found fandom with health-conscious SoCal locals, or Socles, eager to get their omega-3 fatty acids, and today has over 50 locations in its eponymous home

state, plus neighboring Nevada and Arizona. And the seafood it serves, both wild caught and farmed, is all from certified sustainable sources enumerated on its website, meaning this affordable, healthy chain, is also one that makes its customers feel a smug sense of self-satisfaction. which for the affluent liberals who flock there is the greatest feeling of all. This week on Do Boys, California Fish Grill. Welcome to Do Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host, The Strait of Hormel, the spoonman, Mike Mitchell. The cheese, right?

As Hormel, I think of it more is chilly, but I think they have a cheese. That's what it is. I thought Hormel was a cheese. I think they also had, like, meat products just in general. Didn't we do Straight of Hormel? Didn't we, like, just say? that on the Martin Star episode? Yeah, maybe.

I think we might have. Well, either way. I'm not saying Robert is mensieing the dough boys, but definitely is on the same page. I think that we can't say men see it. Right? Is that the wrong one? I mean, I think he's now what you think of him more of as a Robin Hood because he was stealing jokes from bad guys.

Hi, all, I just recently discovered this podcast and it's already brought me so much joy. Thanks for all that you do, looking forward to a lot more laughs. That's nice and sincere. Cheers. Cheers, Robert. I said cheese. Cheers. Cheers, Robert.

I just starting all my emails. Cheese. Pretty good. Roast at Birdfuck.com. Mitch, we saw Michael. Nicholas, guess what I saw last night? Antoine Fouca did, made a beautiful film. Were you a Michael Jackson fan at all?

I was. I don't have to say I was. Just ignored me. Me definitely. I was just asking her guess a question. I got deep in the character and you... Say it again. How did you get so deep in the character?

Antoine Fuka made a beautiful film, Nick. Every detail of my life was up there on the screen, every moment of it. I thought my lawyer was portrayed in a very flattering way. Very accurately, too. Prince, right? He does mention it. There is a point where he's like, if I have to be listening, because otherwise God will give this song to Prince.

That's a good moment. It's an insane movie. In some ways, indefensible. No. own unturned. Every detail of my life is in there. You were, uh, Michael Jackson, um, had a tough childhood. I met bubbles. Very talented. My hair caught on fire. I, ow, ow, I remember that. Air caught on fire and he's nice to everyone. Yes. The end. The end of the story. The story continue. What does it the end of it? It ends with a

fucking Marvel, like an MCU tag. Like his story continues with like a bunch of stars. You know what I wanted? I wanted, uh, or his story will continue? Look, we'll say this. Well, there is rumors that... They're digging him up, right? There's... There's... Wasn't he one of the people

who's rumors that he's still alive? Was him in, like, Tupac is another one? Yeah, I don't know. He's dead. He's dead. I can imagine Michael Jackson's still alive. I was saying that I wanted... One of the thriller video,

I wanted John Landis to pick up a little rainbow-haired baby that was screaming. A little baby Max Landis for, like, for a moment. Shake baby Max Landis. Not shake him, but just like, that's kind of emotion you were doing.

Baby Max and he's just taking care like I thought it would be nice. Quiet Max, Max, nice little Easter egg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Max Landis. Baby Rashida Jones would have been fun to see. It would have been fun to see.

That would have been fun. There are all sorts of opportunities for you. The baby cameos. Yeah, it's a, it is that even the thriller sequence is like, and again, I'm saying again, I'm saying for the first time now, but we've been saying it all.

The, the, the guy is phenomenal. Jafar Jackson. He's, so good. It's, it is. And his dancing is incredible. He's, he's, he's related to Michael. So there is that, like, weird, like, is it uncanny? Uncanny Valley.

Like, thing of, like, this seems like the most, it takes it away from, like, a VH1 thing because it's the most, like, Michael I've ever seen anyone be like. Like, it really feels like you're watching. It, it is a magic trick in a way. Have you seen? Corey Feldman do him. I have not seen that. I mean, that's like,

identical. Can I ask what the, like, if there was no, like, what's the all-as-loss moment in the, this is a very funny thing with the movie. His hair catching on fire, right? His hair catching on fire is kind of the big commercial moment on.

I mean, like, it is, I want to say it's like a great, I'll say this, that, that Bohemian Rhapsody, watching that movie, it seemed like it was made by aliens. I think that movie was so bad.

Bochumabsti is... And everyone was like, this is as bad as Bohemian Rhapsody. I'm like, Antoine Fouca is a better... He's a good director. The music sequences are... I mean, Antoine Fulco on a shoot of music video. The music sequences are awesome. And the...

In the sense of it being like 10 Michael Jackson videos being projected in a movie theater with Dolby Atmos, it's like, from that part of it, it's a triumph. Yes. And I will... Look, we're maybe saying we like this. We're maybe saying we had liked the movie. Are we condoning?

No, we are also... Doning what Michael Jackson did. Are we walking away saying he's innocent? Are we? I'm walking away more than that he bucked his mom than anyone else. There is a strong... His best friend is his mom. His best friend is his mom throughout the movie.

Now I want to see. I trust you to be able to recognize that. Yeah. Like another Michael. Very close with his mom. I was saying that the movie should have been made like 50 years from now because every detail of the movie there was nothing, I didn't learn

a moment, like there was nothing that I learned from the movie. I was like, oh, I know all of this. There's no new information. Yeah, you look through it. Well, I didn't know, I didn't know. I didn't know. Is that true? And he says that. That's what he says that. He also says that he also broke. Oh, so by the way, it's a moment where the rest of the family is like,

okay. Like, it's like, no one thought this was weird? And then he brokers a gang truce between the Crips and the Bloods. I knew. You didn't know that? That's a big part of, If the way it's to pick him is great. Yeah. Is that how beat it came to me? That's beat it. Yeah.

They do it in like the very bad. It is a jukebox. You said it. As a jukebox musical. A jukebox musical. And it is from that aspect. And if you don't listen. If you like Jersey Boys, you'll love that.

It's, it's, it's, I like, I was watching it. I was like, man. Content wise, I just, there's, this is so, this is just so, um, this is just so, um, I'm trying to think of a word other than indivisible, which already used. Like, like, it obscures the truth so far. It's basically, like, myth. It's, it's, it's, content-wise, like, there's,

there's no excuse for what it is. But, he's just, like, a hero in the film. He's just, he's just a hero with basically no flaws. But, I mean, they didn't get to the, his story does continue. His story does continue. I don't know. We don't know what happens.

And the movie pointedly ends in 1988, so it doesn't have to address, at least when anything was public. Free Simpsons, pre-Free-wilie. Yeah. Weird to think about. Wow. That, when Michael Jackson's up there doing bad at the ultimate, you know, the climax of the movie, it's pre-Simpsons. It's pre-Simpsons.

Maybe Tracy Olman shorts are airing? I think the Olman shorts are airing. Okay, so he's maybe seen some of the Elman shorts. Yeah. Someday, I hope that becomes a full series. I'd like to debut my music video behind an episode. I'd like to sing Happy Birthday, Lisa. When I picked CalPackas up, I was playing, Lisa, it's your birthday.

Happy birthday. Everybody got in the car. That was the song I was playing. You're blasting it? Yeah, it's a great one. I love that trick. Every time I pick up a friend, it's like anything. Blasting some stupid song.

That's such a good one. Happy birthday Lisa is a perfect one. It was, he enjoyed it. It was one of those things where he got in the car and you started talking and I had to be like, hey, listen to the song. Acknowledge them. I'm doing a bit. Have you guys been to Hearst Castle? I have as a kid, yeah.

So they like, also there, they like propagandized basically. Hurst and he's just like a god and everyone in the museum has to be like oh he was a great guy and it's just like no he was he had polar bears like cages with polar bears yeah just just just like Hearst

there's no it's a very long movie and if you like I understand if you don't want to listen to Michael Jackson music anymore of course but I mean I still do I still listen to Michael Jackson music is that okay to say I love Michael Jackson I loved him so much

a kid. I love, I love, I just love his music and you just like, you're watching this movie. From that standpoint, I had an absolute blast. You separate the art from the artist is what you're saying. Like, here's the thing. It's just like... And I've told you that with Epstein, I separate the finance from the financier. Right, right, right. He was, he was unarguably a great financier. Yeah. You guys want to come to my Woody Allen Film Festival? So good. He's, so it's like, the movie is, the movie is bad. And, and, you guys, you guys,

you know, kind of reprehensible, but it's the most fun I had to movie theater this year, if I'm being honest. Look. The songs are good. The songs are good. The dancing is good. A tough, you know,

a tough watch for a lot of people. We were discussing whether we get in trouble for saying we liked Michael. And I guess it's for you guys to decide. We're going to find out. We'll put a poll. Are the doughboys in trouble? Are you like us? Are we in trouble?

If we're in trouble, vote in that poll. and yeah, let us know. Because that's probably the only way you would let us know your opinion is the ball. We won't mention who's birthday it was, but it was a screening to go see it as a joke. So, which also was a good thing when theater.

It was Tito Jackson. McCauley Culkin. I'm sure the people who were there to, who loved Michael were happy that there were people who were there laughing, ironically, when, like, when Mike Myers showed up, which is a great scene. Mike Myers is in it?

Mike Myers is in it? Mike Myers is in it and it is pretty great, honestly. Who does he play? He plays a CBS executive who helps Michael Jackson's music videos get played on MTV. Oh, okay, okay. It is very, whatever. It is, I don't think you ever have to see it. No.

I think my mom would, my mom saw Song Song, Sung, Blue four times. Wow. She loved Song Song, Sung Blue. And when she got to L.A., when she was in L.A. in February, she was like, we got to watch my sister and I and her watched it. And she loves song song blue. And I'm like, I don't know how she feels about Michael Jackson music. But I'm putting Jimmy to sleep.

But I don't know how she feels about Michael Jackson music, but that's the exact kind of movie my mom loves, which is like, there's, there's, you're just watching music happen. You're just watching music on screen. And that makes her happy. Yeah. Like Song Song Song Blue, good movie. But I mean, I think it was kind of a fun movie. So much, I mean, a million, like, there's, there's not a lot going on in. Michael. It just is like seeing the thriller video, I did have a big smile on my face.

I know. It's well done. I hope Mrs. Mitchell sees my movie because I made my music for everyone. This is truly a line from the movie. Oh, really? Yeah. Maybe I'll take it to see Michael. We'll see what happens. This week's dropped by Pure Coincidence, because it's griller. All right, hit him with a drop. They're going to do that now, most likely. Here you go.

Mom, are you still here? Mom, are you still here? What if I want to say, come? Hey, Mrs. Mitchell is popping into the frame. I'm like, hell at her, man. Hey, Mrs. Mitchell is popping into the frame. Wow. Wow.

Yeah. I was grooving in my chair like I was watching Michael. Yeah, you were grooving and we were watching Michael. You're cheering at the scene where he meets the kids in the toy store. There is a weird seat. If you're watching the movie, you're like, there's like so much sadness and weirdness at this movie

if you're reading between the lines or whatever. There is like a lot. And there was stuff about it. There was stuff about the, I think it got taken out at the last minute. But there's a whole scene where he meets a bunch of children in a toy store. And he goes to see kids in hospitals, like make a wish kids and burn vict does it multiple times.

Yeah. So they mentioned Michael and mentioned kids, but they never mentioned. They never, yeah, have any sort of association. He's just there being kind of children. Just constantly seeing kids throughout the whole movie. There's that one line you should talk. Remember you said that you thought this was going to. Oh, early on, there's a line.

I think someone else had this observation too. And like early on there's a line where Barry Gordy says to young Michael Jackson. He's like, Michael, how old are you? He's like, I'm eight. And he's like, oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm 10. I was like, no, you're eight. But that's a lie.

Michael in this business, you can say just about anything. Like, he's just like, oh, okay. Like, like, you can, this will be about how people make stuff up and this will be used in some egregious way. It is very 40s fault. And then it never resurfaced. Yeah. Weird. Yeah.

No stone, no stone unturn. Every detail of my life is up there on screen. Hey, y'all, I sent in a drop and also my resume in case it helps with getting the drop played. or just like if you guys want to reach out or anything about any jobs you saw on indeed. From the thrill hunter. Hey, no, I mean, no, you're, I mean, I don't think there's any jobs. You could come and work at headgum. There's no one here.

You'd be the sole employee of headgum. We saw, well, the, we got to hear, and just the intern, Ryan was here. Just the intern was here. Also, if you can fix an AC unit, there is a job for you here. Our AC is not working right now. We're fucking bacon in here under these hot lights. For a guest that we have to introduce, one of the funniest people in the world,

also one of the funniest people that should already have been on the podcast. It's long overdue. Yes. Just saying that, but we're very happy to have them. Drops at birdfuck.com. Our guest stars in the new animated series,

Kevin, now streaming on Prime, Gillows areas here. Hi, Gil. Hi, thank you for having me. Oh, my gosh. Thanks so much for being here. Congrats on Kevin. That's, everything's falling on the park.

No, no, no, no. Thank you so much. So it's an animal show. That's right. There's talking animals, but you're a guy. I'm a guy who runs a pet rescue. Right. So basically there's mostly cats and dogs and also a rat dressed like a dog.

And, yeah, I run the pet rescue. Are there any animals your character interacts with or in the show at large that are like... That's the new Casey, by the way, right, who plays the rat. Yes. Okay, I thought so, but I never... Yeah, there's a lot... The cast in this is great. Mitch, you're in it, too.

I'm in there, yeah. And Wags, you're in there. I'm in one episode, yeah, with you. but the, which was a lot of fun. I think I play an ant. You do play an ant. Is that episode out? Yeah, and you're funny.

Yeah, they're all out. And Gill is so funny on the show. Gill is hilarious in the show. Wow. I know, it's a crazy cast, crazy cast. John Waters and Amy Sedaris, whoopee Goldberg, Jason Schwarzenen.

Wow. Aubrey Clause, Parna. Yeah, Parna. Parna. It's hilarious. Aparna's hilarious. Jason is the titular Kevin in the show. Right.

I was going to say this, that I'm sure you had the same experience because I was back in Massachusetts during COVID when we did the pilot presentation. Yeah, yeah. And it was so. From my closet. Yeah. So long ago. And then I remember like now even almost two years ago or whatever when Joe was like, hey, remember that thing? Like it's happening.

Yeah. Two years later. Yeah, it's happening. Because they said like, no, I think at first. Yeah. Or they passed. And then they're like, no, actually we want to do it. Everything takes forever.

And Gil, as you know, as well. it seems to take even longer with animation. Oh, yeah. Just like so many whatever hurts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes forever just to animate something. Yeah, no. And Joe, as, yeah, we friend of the pod, Joe Wenger.

Pasked us, Joe Wenger. Yeah, so funny and it's great. The best. The best. Sweetest. So I, when I did the, the voiceover for the show, which I never do, I was, I was prepared for, but also surprised by how fatiguing it is. Okay.

Do you have a way, like, you keep your, maybe that was just me and maybe my lack of the breath control or whatever? No, I put all of myself into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you, like, do you have a way of- Joe told me that you fell asleep in, you kind of just, like, rolled up on the carpet and fell asleep in the booth. Is that true? I get really tired. I took a little nap.

I was like, Mario. Spaghetti. Then he woke up. The, uh, did you, do you have like a way of-above doing acting, too. You can't, you can't, you can't get into a booth for 10 minutes. No, I was saying, I was saying, I was saying, I was saying, I was saying, this in a way where... It's a testament to Joe. I'm impressed by actors. That's what I'm

saying, Mitch. Yes. Finally. By this craft. And I was curious if you have a way to like keep your own pipes lubed when you're doing that. Like, do you have a beverage you go to? Usually like tea and coffee. I need something hot. Yeah, because I do have a character. I play this like goose

on the show too who's like got like a voice down there and that really fucking hurts my voice. And when I was, when I wrote on Big Mouth, I would watch Nick Kroll and he would do like a zillion voices and they were all like gravelly. Not all of them, but a lot of them and he... The goose is very funny by the way.

Oh, thank you. Yes. And watch what he did too and be like, oh, okay, that's how you take care of your throat kind of. Right. Yeah. Yeah. What do you got to... Sucking down honey.

What do you do to keep your throat lubed like you said? I mean, I just had water. I just had water, but I like, looking back, I do wish I had a hot beverage. It's funny because if you watch the show, you are, you're being very wigory. Like, uh, you were, I mean, I think you do a great job. It's a great performance. But I'm saying, you're not like, uh, you're not pitching up or pitch, you know what I'm

saying? You're, you're, you kind of are. No, I'm like, what am I going to do a voice? Hey, I'm, hey, I'm this guy now. Whoa, that's amazing. Yeah, that's pretty good. What do you call that guy? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm snarky about everything.

Mr. Snark's pretty good. Yeah, Mr. Mr. Snark's pretty great. What about this? Remember this guy? Remember that you did that? Oh yeah, yeah, here you're this guy. I forget about this guy.

This guy never had a name. But also, what is the thing about jacking off or something? He liked watching breastfeeding moms. Oh, that's what it was. I went to a mommy on YouTube. He's like, you know, you can, anyone can buy a ticket to a mommy and me screening. Some women.

Sometimes the actions is in the theater instead of up on the screen. That was fun. You've had a few voices over there, this guy, the Mr. Snark. Yeah. You had a hoodie character with your hoodie where you put the strings up

and you were a Mr. hoodie? What the hell was that? I don't know. Do you want to talk you about that? When did that happen? When you were wearing your orange hoodie? I don't even remember this one.

That's around the time I started working here. Oh, it's an old one. Yeah. So I had like a handlebar mustache. You're a Mr. hoodie? With your orange hoodie.

It was like a handlebar mustache guy. And you were like, I'm Mr. Hoody or something. Sounds pretty good. Yeah, it sounds great. Actually, can I be honest with you? That one actually sounds awful. Do you have any go-to voices you do? I mean, obviously, you do a great Boston guy.

Yeah, I mean, I don't. I feel like you're Mitch a lot. I am Mitch a lot. That's what I get. And then also when I am like, I don't know if this ever happens to you, but you're like, I'm going to try a new one. I'm like, they're like, do something different here. I'm like, oh, I'm going to do it like this way or whatever.

They're always like, bring it back. Yeah, they're like, or like I'm like, I'm like, I listen to it when if it gets into something. I'm like, it just sounds like me. It just sounds like me again. Yeah. There's a few. I don't know if I, I don't think I have any original,

doing an original, I'm no Hank Azare. I don't have an original. Oh. Look, it's so hot that we have a sliding door open and then we just heard some sort of bang. So we're hoping that, Emma, please scream.

Right. Okay. Let us know if there's a shirtless Caltech graduate out there. Emma? Emma? I'll just be, I'll stand guard. Okay, great. I don't know.

I think it was maybe just something outside. I think we're okay. They also, this is headgum being headgum. They, Gil, we were talking about this before. We started, they scheduled painters to arrive at the same time we're doing our episode. And they have not shown up. Night painters. Night painters.

It's, I mean, just, and it's insane. It's for outdoor painting, too, which I think you do during the day. But what do I know? I'm not a painter. So you're from Queens. I am from New York City. One of the five boroughs, of course, we've got. Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, and then don't forget Staten Island.

Don't forget it. Where you're like, growing up, what were you like your New York City eats? Because we've gotten this question. Oh, wow. What's the quintessential NYC bite? Blimpies. Blimpies. No, Blimpie.

Yeah, I know Blimpies. Okay, yeah, it was like the subway back then. I also loved McDonald's. Sure. And there was a place on Queens Boulevard called the Pistrami King, which I fucking love. I had my first, I had like a bunch of birth. day's there. But I remember my first birthday. I was like, Mom, I wanted at the pastrami. Oh my God. Or my, my fifth birthday. It was my first one that I got to choose. I didn't know what was

happening when I was one, obviously. But it was my fifth birthday. Were you, like, what is it, what is this place special day? I mean, pastrami, obviously. Pistrami. It was just like a, you know. Pastrami on rye, pastrami on a roll. Pestrami on rye. It was like, it was sort of like cats. It was like a deli. It was probably like now, it's not, I don't think it's around anymore. But when I went there, it was like everything to me. I love that. It was probably some shit hole. I don't, I mean.

Right. Well, honestly, with the quality, quality has gone down. I mean, it was probably decent enough that everyone was like a sub shop. I feel like in the 80s, you know, a sub shop was. Blimpies was great. Yeah. And it's all gone downhill since. We haven't done Blimpies in forever.

Well, no, we've never done Blimpies. Oh, we've never done it at all. It's not out of here. I think the closest one is in Arizona. I think it's still around. Oh, okay. I've been to Blimpies. Yeah.

But what's the other one we've done where, uh, who was it? Maddie got the screw in a sandwich? That's Togo. I always think about that. That's a West Coast chain. Togos. He got the screw in a sandwich at Togos. Right.

We had Sizzler. We had Wendy's. I love Taco Bell. That's like my favorite. That's what, do you still in Taco Bell? I do. It's my number one. What's your, what's your go-to Taco Bell menu item?

Um, like the, uh, I like the Gordita, the Gordita double shell. Cheesy Gordita Crunch. Yes, cheese, gordita crunch. I like the crunch wrap Supreme. There you go. Yeah. Those are my like. And then I'll always do like a hard taco Supreme also.

We were saying, I said at one point that Taco Bell was my favorite restaurant. And I, it's got. Period. I mean, it's up there. I do love it. I haven't gotten it as much recently. But I don't think they were trying to cut back on stuff Taco Bell was and we were mad at them. But then overall with fast food, I think they've actually kind of stayed up there.

I think so. Because Wendy's has gotten so shitty. We talked about this before. There's a lot of places that gotten so shitty, and I don't know what Blumpy's status is. Even within Yumb brands. And the last time we had KFC, I had a good KFC experience.

But even within Yom brands itself, Taco Bell is definitely in the best position of KFC, Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut, and, of course, the habit, which is now part of that family. Yeah. I mean, all those, like, I feel like all those are decaying. Yeah. Pizza Hut is, like, egregious.

Yes, it's so bad. Yeah, but every time I still eat talk, I just had it like a week ago. It still hits me like, ugh, as I'm eating it. And I'm going like Dr. Pepper too, so it's just like, it's hitting every sense. It's perfect. So you're talking about growing up as a, and the fast food you enjoyed. Like, as a parent yourself now, are you, like, how conscious of you are, of getting your, like, treating your kids to fast food or, like, projecting them from fast food?

That's a good question. Once in a while. Once in a while. Yeah. So, like, if we're taking a road trip or something, we'll do it. And, but I- Is the love for McDonald's still there from children to children still? Absolutely.

Oh, wow. See, Amelia. That kind of makes me happy. Yeah. I mean, and the toys, I mean, the toys are still, they're not, they're awful. You know, they're just like plastic pieces of shit. So much shittier, yeah. We were, we were at the McDonald's headquarters and we saw, we, we saw them happy

You guys were like invited. Yeah, oh yeah. It's complicated. Am I not even supposed to talk about this anymore? No, I think you can talk about it. I think it's fine. You guys are getting sued? It's a complicated thing that happened.

We maybe weren't supposed to be there. We maybe weren't supposed to be there. Is this like a Michael situation? No, I was looking at toys in the McDonald's headquarters. My name is Michael. But it was, it's a very complicated story. As two childless adults, us being like, like, The toys have gotten shittier.

I mean, it's true. It is true. You saw them over the years and they were. Right. They are. Yeah, they're worse. And also, we've talked about this too, but just like, well, like the cups from the 80s and 90s, like those glass cups that burger cake and McDonald's would have.

And they're so, they're so fucking cool. And like nothing like that ever. Like that, that everything is shittier. It feels like. Everything is shittier. Yeah. And the McDonald's toys are bad. There's some every so often that will come, one that will come out every so often that

looks good. Like, and then Griffin will send it to us or some shit. Like a, sorry Griffin. But one of our dork friends will send us a McDonald's toy and we'll be like, yeah, that looks kind of cool. And they still get excited by it because it's like colorful and it's a toy. Sure. Yeah. And we usually get it with like, Greg.

Are you talking about Griffin? It comes with also like a pack of apples that's impossible to open. Yes. I don't know if you try it. You have to like, and then you pop it like, it basically causes an earthquake. Oh, wow. I've had those apples, I think, because of dough boys. but uh but he's friend he i guess you got to give kids you got to give the kids the apples

but there's also like dip there's like a little dipping sauce with them yeah yeah yeah but that's the fun of the happy meals also having french fries they're just have is the nuggets quality changed do you guys know about that i think nuggets have been pretty consistent they're fairly stable i had also i had macdonald's last night i feel like they're different from when i was a kid. Interesting. I won't, I mean, I don't dispute your, your experience that they are shittier, because, like, again, like, everything's gotten a little bit shittier. But to me, they, they kind of taste like a memory. But also, I was always more of a burger than a Nug guy. Like, I'll get McNuggets, but it's not my go-to-it. What's your order at McDonald's?

Double-cheasburger. Yeah, that's my good. In fact, I got that earlier this week. And why, guess what? You inspired me because I got it last night. Yeah. After Michael. I've got a weird fucking order at McDonald's. Go for it. I do. I do. You get, this is so disgusting. I do filet of fish, but I do it in barbecue sauce. Okay. Interesting. Yeah.

That is interesting. I'm not going to. It's disgusting. I'm always like telling my wife to just look away and then I'm just like, yeah. Do you get the tartar sauce as well? I do. Okay, so tartar sauce and barbecue sauce. Do you add barbecue sauce or do you just get on the side?

I dip it in like mounds of barbecue sauce. That's not that, that's not, that's not, that's pretty good. That's not that crazy. Amelia, you always roll the dice on fish. Would you try that? I would try it. I'm not a big barbecue sauce fan. Oh, that's true.

You said this before. But you do like the flay of fish. Yeah, I like that. This is what I, after Michael last night, I went up to Dave Ferguson. I told him that he was the Joe Jackson of the birthday boys. And then. Did he beat you guys? Close to it.

You worked with him. Oh, yeah. And then he was, he was laughing, but then also seemed, and then he was making a joke about how my beard caught on fire from like nacho cheese. And then maybe think about cheese. And then I got it. And I was like, I want a double cheeseburger. Something clicked in my head where I was like, I want it. And I think it's because you had one earlier in the week.

I did. So I went, and I also wanted an orange soda really bad. So I went and got a double cheeseburger and orange soda from McDonald's. Did it satiate you? Did it hit the craving? It scratched the it. Now I guess I'm on an orange soda kick because I got a little sun kiss to your wigs. I'm drinking a rare late night.

I shouldn't say late night. It's like dinner time. But like, you know, late in the day. Coke zero is a cherry Coke zero instead of a coffee but I'm like I'm partly you know a little

you also worked a full day so but I'm just like a little sleepy I woke up early and you know just trying to give a little bit caffeine lift can you do like because you're also doing the Coke heavy yeah can you can do caffeine this late I assume

I can yeah I usually drink coffee pretty late into the day oh wow yeah and I don't also I don't drink alcohol so Like, my, I'm used to sort of having a Coke when I go out at night, I guess. Right. I go to a bar or something like that or a party. I'll have a Coke.

Yeah. When I'm, I mean, like, and some teetotolers I know don't like the, the, the, the N.A. beers. But, like, when I'm, when I'm not drinking, I will find myself doing the non-alcoholic beer now, which they've gotten pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. My dad's strictly just a Coke in a glass and then.

No one knows. No one knows. I just think you're drinking a mixed drink. But nowadays, they feel like enough people don't drink, where like, at least in, in all of our circles, no one's, like, pressuring you, right? Oh, I'll press it. I mean, you are sometimes, yeah. You'll make me, you know, you call me a nerd.

I was trying to, I was trying to. I was trying to make a drink. I'm allergic. I'm allergic to it. Oh, are you really? Oh, my God. So I will actually get sick when I, like, I'll drink it and, like, my throat closes up and I actually get sick for, like, a couple weeks after. When did, did you, did you figure that sound like high school, college, like, what happened? I can tell you the, like, the year, 2007, I stopped.

drinking because it just, I just started getting so sick every time I drank. Yeah. And then I was, yeah. That's wild. Yeah. That is a, that's a bad. That's a, I mean, it's, honestly, in a way, it's kind of great to be. It's great.

I mean, it's, I also, I don't, I have no vices. Like, I can't smoke weed because it started to make me paranoid. And so everything is just sort of like, all I have is fucking Coca-Cola now. I love Coca-Cola. I'm trying to get back into Reefer. Mitch, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, smoke. I noticed why. I used to smoke. And I, same with you. It was like, either I was like, I was smoking every day and things would be cloudy every day or I would smoke occasionally and then be paranoid. I was like, I don't like, I don't like either of these feelings. Wow. I saw you. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was back in it. I'm back in. I'm back in. I hated it because we were in. We were in Orlando and I was sick. And I was like, in the pool with you. And then you're like, I'm going to smoke weed with the kids. You were acting like Michael.

Yeah, it was crazy. We keep coming back to Mike. How are you like it? Well, so here's the thing, because I had a really bad experience with an edible, and I honestly, like, I was getting very, very anxious from marijuana for a period that I just, like, I have not had it for like two years. Because of the edibles? Because of the edibles, but also because I just, like, generally stopped having good experiences. But then I was like, they were token up back at the Airbnb.

I was like, I don't take it. hit her too? You know, I had a great time. That's great. And it didn't make me anxious. So maybe it's just time. Could be the time. Could also be the consumption method.

I don't know. I was a guy being like, hey, you should get, everyone should get. I did the one night. I was like, you guys should, we got to go to bed soon. We're going to epic universe tomorrow. And you didn't listen to me and you were hurting the next morning. I was a little bit hug over the next day. We were on time.

I was in dad mode. It worked out fine. I hated it. You were being like Dave. I was. I was, I did. I was just. I was the Joe Jackson of the group that one.

Wow. I didn't like that. You're usually that guy. I'm usually the Joe, but this time, I was the Michael. Go smoke weed with the kids. Children. It's fun to do his voice. Has that joint Applehead?

Remember he'd call kids Applehead? Or they'd call him Applehead? It's weird. I mean, there wasn't enough of that in the movie. Because the security guy calls him, like, laugh. What does he call him? He calls him Joker. Joker.

Yeah. It's kind of like a secret service name. I kind of like that. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, there wasn't enough of that stuff, though, in there. There wasn't even a moment of like, hey, he's kind of weird, right? This man's a little bit eccentric. We can perhaps acknowledge that.

I think we should just bring Jafar Jackson back as Michael and just have him to be Michael. He's just Michael from now on. He hasn't been canceled. Michael's back. Jafar didn't do anything wrong. If he went on tour as Michael Jackson, I think he'd sell out aren't. Oh, 100%. That's how they should market.

It was like, good Michael. Michael without the problem. So you move, you're, you, you, you do the classic, you, you, you grew up in, in New York, you live in New York City for a time. Um, you come to L.A. as an adult. When you get to L.A., were there any, like, foods that maybe were on your radar, but you weren't having as frequently. And then you're, you're having the L.A. version is like, oh, I'm into this now. My answer is Persian food. Because I was like, like, there wasn't.

food. Yeah, I'm from L.A. County, but where I grew up, there wasn't good Persian food, but in L.A. there's, like, fantastic food. Well, I'm in Glendale now, and I love Armenian food. I mean, specifically, I don't know if you've been to Rafis. Have you guys been to? Oh, I've been to Raffi's. Holy shit. It's so good. And it's, like, filled with, like, great Armenian restaurants. So we have it all the time. Um, I would also say, dim sum, I really started, I go to this place called NBCC seafood. Oh, yeah, I know NBC. NBC. So I take my kids there all the time and they love it. And it's like I was in New York. I just never, but here, I'm just like, I love, I love going for DIMSown.

Glendale is, I was, I was at the Americana last night. Oh, you were. I saw Michael. And, uh, and, uh, and what's that? What's Michael? And I've said this to Nick. That's the movie about the nice guy, right? Yeah, it's a good Michael.

I don't know if you heard about it. But, uh, I was saying to Nick, we talked about this in the podcast. Yeah. There's a Glendale test for me with fast food where every, all fast food is better in Glenda. In Glendale, really? It's the truth. I've said this before.

There's the Glendale we go to that's always hitting. Is that the IOP Glendale? Yes. Yeah, that's the Glendale. This is like the rule that like all soda's better out of a fountain. Yes. I mean, why do you think it is better in Glendale?

I don't, I just like, I think that there's some locations like in the, like the Burger King in, in L.A. is just kind of like trashy. And then the one in Glendale, like, I think it's maybe like independently owned and operated. And I think that they're just are like, People that take better care of them up in Glendale.

I don't know what the deal is. I think there may be slightly less volume. And, you know, because they're in less dense areas, they have, like, a larger footprint for the dining room. They can pay more attention. Yeah, exactly. It looks nicer, which I think always just does help. It does help. Yes.

Have you been to a mini kebab? No. Oh, my God. DoorDash, I think I've. You'll love it. It's so, so good. Yeah. It's one of my favorites.

I'll love it out. Check it out. Glendale is a great little, a great city. I love it up there. Man, I wish you could remember the place I went with our friend, Payment Benz. He took me to a great Persian spot up there or Armenian spot. I can't remember, but it was like, it was fantastic food in Glendale. There's also this place I went there.

I'm going to get fuck it up. Shaboo Shabu. Shavu. Do you know that place? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's basically you cook your own soup. Yes.

Or in, I don't know, it was great, too. Also, by the way, there's one other place you can visit in Glendale. And that is Michael and Joe Jackson's grave. They are buried in... Now you're forced... No, you're... I feel like that's not true. This is true.

Really? They really are. They're buried in... Forest Lawn? In the forest lawn in Glendale. They're buried there. Whoa. Yes.

Yeah, it's true. Don't pay tribute to me. Leave some flowers. I love flowers. Leave a children. Oh. Even from down there. still.

Down there in the dirt. They buried him next to his, they buried him next to Joe only. Yeah, I think they're, I think they're in a little, what is it, what's the house? Family plot. What's the house? A mausoleum. I think they have, I think they have like, they're in a private mausoleum.

Like, I think you can't actually see his grave. You can just see the house where his body is. Yeah, little Michael Liam. And you go in there. It's like a little like thriller playing. A little, tiny little club. Him and Joe. And then I believe there's one other brother who has passed away.

I don't know. Sorry, Nick. I didn't mean to break that news to you. The one other brother has passed and then there was another brother that died, I think, in like, when it was like, not childbirth, but the same date, it was born. A twin. Oh, wow. One of the Jackson Vives had a twin. Oh, that's wild.

Let's just say I did some deep diving after the movie last night. Well, because there's, it's one of those, it's like the wrestling movie, Mitch, where I, oh, man, what the hell was that called? The one that, what's his name was in? The Iron Claw. Iron claw. The Iron claw. The Iron Claw. Who is it that's in it?

Ephron. Ephron's in it. Yeah. There's one... Everon got like very jacked. Yes. There's one brother missing from that that's in reality. And Janet Jackson is not in the Michael movie.

Janet Jackson is not in the Michael movie. Did she say no? I'm guessing, yeah. Because they would have wanted to include her. She's not a producer on it or anything like that. Like a bunch of people from the family produced it. But in the Iron Cloud, there's... Did you see it?

The story is about like a guy and like he has so many brothers that die. And then you're watching a movie. like, this seems insane. But the truth is, is that they cut one of the brothers dying out of the movie because it was, it was an additional brother who also died. It seems like a joke. Yeah, yeah. Watching the movie, you're already like, this is like, this seems too crazy.

But I was saying to you, like, they should have just kept that. Dude. Yeah, I think so. This is a real story. Ever accused of murder? How did they die? They all died in like weird, crazy, like, at the bottom of a staircase. Yeah.

There was no like a... I think a combination of like drugs, a traffic accident. You know, it's just all a bunch of tragic things. Yeah, there was no mysteries, I don't think. But there were multiple. And then you're like, this is, this seems like too much. But then you were like, if it was already this crazy, they should have just included the other brother that died as well. I agree with that take.

Not that I'm rooting to show. But his family is just like, what about us? Yeah. Like you left us out. It's also funny to be like, For Nick and I to be like, they should have showed that other death in Ironclown on that for the Michael movie.

I'm like, we like it. Anything more bubbles is my note. Bubbles is pretty good. Bubbles is pretty good in the movie. I don't know where Bubbles is. I'm going to look up with Bubbles. I don't know if you guys saw that Malaney sketch with Langston Kerman that was going around

with him playing bubbles was so funny. Wasn't Bubbles in the like Chimp Crazy Dog? documentary at the same. Oh. Is he? There's like a sanctuary where the lady who had the chimps in the documentary, her chims were taken from her and put in the sanctuary. And I think Bubbles is in that same sanctuary.

Wow. It's like in the middle of nowhere. He is a restful retirement. Yeah. And that's in Glendale too, right? Yeah, yeah. Wow. In the Michael Liam.

Bubbles, Michael Jackson's former pet chimpanzee is alive. Whoa. And he has a podcast. he's living at the Center for Great Apes in Florida Born in 1983 He's a year younger than I am Wow Center for Great Apes

What's that? I kind of want to go there I know, it seems cool He's 40, we're the same age He's 43 years old The Chimp has resided at the sanctuary since 2005 The year I graduated college Whoa

Holy shit It's Destin You gotta meet him We have a very similar trajectory. I already saw Michael last night. It's crazy. What's the name of the sanctuary is that? I think it was the Great Ape.

It is, yeah, Center for Great Apes. It sounds like Professor X's school for music. I know. It sounds like some like J.K. Rowling book. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Harambe's there still alive. Harambe's there. Coco's there.

That goes Amy from fucking Congo Amy likes Michael Amy likes Michael Innocent Innocent Innocent Don't mention it in movie Of course Ed is there

Ed is there It's got to be there You're talking about the movie Where I took my first date ever Yes I was Mitch Ed was your first movie? Or it's Dunstan checks in This is the issue because they both came out like three months

apart and I don't know which one. You just know a monkey with it. It was a monkey. So it's Matt LeBlanc is Ed, is Ed, right? That's the one where we're as a pitcher. It's a pitcher. It's a baseball playing. But that's Ed, right? I think that's Ed, yeah. And Dunstan checks in is... Hotel. He works in a hotel. Hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They do play baseball in that movie. They do. They do. That was my first... And Ed stays in a fucking motel, too. So I don't know. My first one, my first date movie was

Encino Man. Wow, I remember Encinio, man. Brendan Fraser. Yeah. Brendan Fraser. It was great. And, uh, and, oh, fuck. Also, that's pretty horny that he meets the cave lady at the end.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good date. It's a good date movie. Polly, Polly Shore, wheezing with the juice. Weesing with the juice. Yeah. Who's, is there, is, is there one other guy in that? Sean Austin.

Sean Asston. Sean Asston. And Brendan Fraser, of course, and Sean Asston. Yeah. I was going to say Stephen Baldwin, but I think Stephen Baldwin's in like Biodome or something, right. Spaldwin is in Bio. Yeah. Yeah.

A few years, a couple years later. Yeah. Do you remember your first? I took a girl to a Jackie Chan movie, a girl I really liked. And then actually we went to a few movies. Boy, it might actually been the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Eraser first. Oh, wow. Vanessa Williams, right?

Yeah, we saw, we saw Eraser where there's a, there's some Gators who eat a guy. We said, after the day she signed up for the eraser procedure. We saw Eraser and then the Jackie Chan movie Super Cop in some world. Oh, okay. Do you, Emma Meeley remember first date movie? I don't remember my first one. I think mine was that Ricky Jervais movie, The Invention of Lion. Got it.

That's pretty good choice. Really? Yeah. I don't remember the first movie I went to on a date, but I do remember going on a first date to see The Revenant, which is not a good first date. We're just watching Leo get brutalized. That is crazy because on this podcast,

wait, wait, which movie was it? The Revenant, where Leo gets eaten out of there. But you went, you took a first date to the Scorsese movie. I took a first date to silence. Yes. Oh, no. Similarly, not a good first date movie. Not a good first date.

Very romantic, though. It wasn't a first date. It just was a date. And I hadn't eaten. And we talked about this on a podcast. But the movie actually is silent and my stomach was rumbling. And I ran, I was like, I got to go to the bathroom and I ran and quickly ate a hot dog.

Wait, what number date is it? I, like, had known her for a while and then, and, and, and he came back reeking like a fucking hot dog. I mean, that's what we were saying is like, I so surely smelled like a hot dog after I came back. And also to just be like, I just wanted the bathroom smelled like hot dogs, like to just lie or whatever I did. I don't know what I did.

That's actually grosser than you had a hot dog. I know. Yes. A needless lie. Because I think you said like, like, I'm going to get a hot dog. You want anything? You know, like, and she would have been fine.

She might have been like, if you were like, I'm hungry, she might have been like, what the fuck? How dare you? I think I just, more, the weirdest thing about it was just that I just never said anything about it.

I think I just, like, sat there smelling a hot dog and she never did. This is at the arc light. That you shame speed ate it and like in the lobby too. Oh, yeah,

I was quick. The lobby staff is like, is this guy, okay. And also speeding it because I also don't want her to think I'm taking a shit. There was like so much going on that was like,

she probably thought the hot dog smell was shit emanating from your breath. Oh, cool, thanks. Oh, cool. Like, he ate shit? What the fuck are you talking about? I don't know. I know this freak, he probably went in the bathroom, took a shit and then ate it. I could hear his stomach rumbling.

You probably went in there, took a shit, and then ate it. Now it's not rumbling. It's either I have to take a shit or I'm hungry. Let's just tick both boxes. I can't pay attention to this fucking movie anymore. This guy ate his own shit. I'm of course going to continue this date. Yeah.

I'll continue. I feel like movies are weird first date movies in general because you don't actually talk to the person. You don't talk to that, right? You just sit next to that. This wasn't a first, well, the first with Kelly Whale and my middle school girlfriend. I was saying, but when you're in, like, middle school or high school, it's, like, the only option. Yeah, you don't have, or it's like ice cream. Yeah.

Let's go for milk. And your parents are, like, sitting in a corner. Right, right. I think you would notice if someone, if you think you would be able to tell if someone to the bathroom and ate shit? 100. 100% You think so? Yeah.

What if they had mouthwash or something too? Well, okay. Let's go through this. What is the scenario? Yeah. I'm saying the scenario where you're at a movie theater

on a date and then someone leaves and they eat shit and they come back. This is a game show we're talking about. Right? Where you have to. Can you go eat shit and not have your date realize that you've eaten shit?

I, uh, oh, this is a very off off the, detour story, but I did, as a kid, I used to eat my own shit. Out of my diaper. Oh my God. Let's stay on this thing for a second. How did your parents know? Could they smell it on your breath?

My dad would have to pick it out with a toothpick. Like, out of my teeth all the time because I would always just like see my diaper and be like, yeah. Oh, as you were being changed? I would rip off the diaper. Oh, you'd rip it off and just eat out of it. And just eat out of my fucking diaper. That's wild. That's the kind of guy I am.

I used to smear mine on the walls. You did? Oh, you freak. Yeah. There's something about shit, right? Something about it. My nephew likes to take his off and put it on his head like a hat. Oh, my God.

Oh, really? Yeah. He'll take his dirt in the middle of the night once. They have like a ring camera in his nursery and, like, found the video. He like took it off and he put it on his head and then he was walking around his room, like, so proud of himself. That's insane. It was like kind of a fun party animal move to take your diaper off when you're at a part of You're talking about being an adult and eating it, right?

Yes, I was talking about being an adult and eating it. At the movie theater. You were a baby. I was a baby. Yeah, but you go in, but still I wouldn't justify it. You know, I was a disgusting baby. But you would say going into a diaper, how would you go into a bathroom, I mean, during a movie. Yes.

You eat shit. Yeah, someone, you're on a date with someone. I was saying, would you be able to tell. And you're saying, yes, of course you would be able to tell. I think so? If somebody, like, ran out to the lobby and, like, That's a big question. Are you watching Roth out?

Because if you went like snuck a drink, like a boozy drink or something, you can smell that on someone's breath, usually. And I'm assuming shit, which is stinkier than alcohol, same effect. If you eat like a chili dog, you can smell the chili on someone's breath. So I think it would be, I think shit would be a similar principle. My question is like, has this scenario ever happened? Absolutely. Someone secretly ate and eat shit. Did you do this at Michael last night?

Is that what you're asking? No, I've never touched this stuff. Was the hot dog a piece of shit just tell it? No, that did not happen. I could smell three layers of someone's breath at any point. You could try to cover it up and there's no use trying. Do you think that you... I feel like we got a segment here.

Breath detective. So if you smelled shit like that, do you think the breath would... The breath analyzer. How quick would you go to, like, this person ate shit? Do you think you would go there quickly? I would assume it was something else. And then you think that you would be able to... And then I think I would try to evaluate from there.

I think I could do it. The breath amelializer. That's good. There was a regular at my old bar when I was a bartender who would come in all the time. He was a crazy old man. And he would ask all of the servers and bartenders if he could smell their breath when he would come in. He would be like, come here, let me smell your breath. And then he would tell us like what we had for breakfast.

He'd be like, don't need onions next time you work. I don't want to smell that. And I'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you on? Yeah, was it just women? He sounds a little like this guy. He sounds like that guy. He sounds like that guy. He sounds like that guy.

Hey, let me get a whiff. You just put that breath. It was disgusting. There was a guy, this is slightly off, a topic, but Emily, my wife, and growing up in Michigan, there was a guy who would go into movie theaters called the hair sucker, and he would sit behind women with ponytails and suck on their ponytail. That's not crazy. That's disgusting.

That's horror movie shit. That's horror movie stuff. It might have been a woman. We don't know. You like touch your hair after being in the movie, and it's like kind of wet. Did they catch them? They never caught me, no. That behavior sounds depraved.

I looked it up because I was trying to remember which movie it was. I told the story before that Natalie and I, who've now been together, combined dating and married for two decades. Wow. Congrats. Congrats. How about that?

We went to see a, on a first date, I took her to the wrong movie theater because I fucked up. I remember this. And I was like, oh, shit, the movie I wanted to see, I can't remember it was I was going to take you to is not playing here. What's the one that, we ended up seeing a

Neil La Butte movie called Possession that we both hated. So it actually were great. Wait, from 1986, that one? No, this one's from

the early odds. Okay. Early 2000s. And so we, we saw this movie and then we both hated it and then afterwards we shit-talked the movie together.

It was like, hey, that ended up being a thing to bond over. It was nice. And you were trying to take her to the Jackoff movie always referenced.

I was trying to take her to auto-focus. Yeah, the Paul Schrader Jackoff movie. In the Tiki theater. It was a special event screening. I thought I could go and he got a little shit eating while we were doing it. But no, I wasn't lucky. Yeah. Why did he take me this jackoff movie? He's not

eating his own shit. Auto focus at the Tiki Theater and a shit hud dog. That's the worst date I've ever heard, Nick. That's up there. That's got to be up there. That sounds pretty terrible. What are you, okay, so as someone who's written on a lot of a lot of shows. You're in the writer's room. Are there any snacks you hope to see or snacks you request?

Oh, that's a good question. I love a baby bell cheese. Oh, that's fun. That's fun. Yeah. I just think about that. Hackman, which is fun. Yeah, you get to play.

I love peanut butter, snacking on peanut butter. There's something new in our writer's room that I've never had before, which is called mung beans. Have you guys had mung beans? Oh, yeah, those are mung beans, but I didn't, not in snack form. They're, like, in a little pack, and they're so salty and really good, but I also am kind of embarrassed to, like, eat mung beans. Are they, like, dried, like in a moment?

Yeah. Okay. I never liked seaweed paper. We talked about this before. Like this little seaweed snacker paper. I don't like... You don't like the taste. I don't like the...

Are you a sushi guy? I do like sushi, but I think I need the rice and the fish. I don't think I like seaweed just on its own. It needs context. I think I'm kind of with you. Some of those, some of those like really... I can't tell if this is what that is, but some of those really healthy snacks I do hate.

You hate. Some of those Trader Joe's like ultra-healthy snacks and that. What's your go-to? Oh, shit. Mitch is reaching into his hoodie pocket. Harry Bowie. Tommy Bears? Harrybo Gold Bears,

would you have it tucked away in there? I did have them tucked away in here. How long have they been in there? What, do you need to know? Look, once you go through a thing like I did with silence, you're always prepared.

Right. Well, you're in a room, too. Like, what do you, what's your go-to? So I try to do healthy snacks for a while. Okay. Now I just want cheese it. What a fucking pack of cheese. And you get this mini packs of cheese and it's like,

come on now. This is exactly one serving. That's what I'm looking for. At some point of the day, I treat myself to this. I also usually be, bring a banana from home. If there's not fruit there.

Yeah, I like a cutie. Yeah. A little orange in the middle of the day. Can you guess how many, guess how many gummy bears are in this package? I'm going to say seven. I'm going to say, yeah, seven, too. Guesses? Six.

That was me and mine. I'll go eight. You're all over. We're all four. Five. Five gummy bears are a pack? That's right. That's kind of a rip-off.

Crazy. Five gummy bears in the path. Everything's getting shittier. Yeah, it's getting shittier. And that probably. cost $8 now. I mean, I'm sure, I mean, the package itself. It's all just the ratchet effect of like how much worse can we make everything and how much

more expensive can we make it just gradually. So you don't notice too. It's like the frog and the fucking pot. Yeah. Yeah. Which I use for everything. I love talking about that frog. That delicious frog.

Delicious frog. Yeah, um, wait, hold on. Oh, I remember. Okay. Gil, you're in New York. I forgot where we ate today. Gil, you're a New York guy. Yes.

What does seafood mean to you? I'm a Massachusetts guy. I love seafood. We have a, where the fuck you're from New York? Yeah, New York. Seafood freak. Seafood freak. What's the name of the city you're from?

It's a town, Pearl River. It's in Rockland County. It's like, oh, I know Rockland County. Yeah, Rockland County. Yeah, I had friends who lived in Rock. I was there all the time. Really? I'm of course.

Nyack. Yeah. What's this high school in Rockland County? Something north. Clarkstown North? Clarkstown North. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad was a bus driver.

Is that where you went to school? No, he was a bus driver for Clarkstown North. Scorpion? Really? Scorpeon drove a bus. It was a school bus driver. I did not know that. Wow.

Kept those kids in line. These kids were terrified of him. Amelia's dad is named Scorpion. Wow. Really? Emma, you're from New Hampshire, of course, and then you spend a lot of time in Maine these days where your family has a home. So you have access to fantastic seafood.

I love seafood. I don't like lobster. So I, you spend. They won't let me have my main card, but I love all other seafood. I love seafood, too. Yeah. All right. So, all right, everyone here loves seafood.

We all love seafood. In fact, Amelia likes it so much that she was taking scraps from people's meals and taking it home at the end of the day. I feel like Amelia and I are opposites, though, in a way. Like, you'll roll the dice on fish. I'm so picky about fish. Like, very rarely, do I order it? Even today looking at the menu, I was like, do I just want a chicken bowl?

And then I was like, no, the fish is the thing. Do the fish. And I'm not I did. It was delicious. But I'm, like, nervous about it. Right. I don't know why. if you've ever felt overwhelmed by the idea of learning a new language, you're not alone.

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Gil, you have a love, hate relationship with this place. Yes. You said beforehand. And I kind of agree with you. Now, I did introduce the doughboys crew to California fish grill. I loved it. I was eating it a lot. And when I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, this is like, one of the places I ate a lot.

And it was kind of helpful to be like, I'm having, like, a piece of fish. So, within the last, like, maybe a year ago. And I had tried it a little bit before that, maybe. But they are, they are recent in general. They, like, always pop up when they're putting in new, like, condos. They're at, like, the bottom of a condo or something on kind of unfortunately. But, I mean, like, it's interesting because they're not that recent. Not to cut you off.

They, they, they were founded in 1998. So they've been around for a while. They were in Gardena. I was wrong. No, but you are right that like handles, they have recently expanded with gusto to Los Angeles proper. They've gotten popular. Yes. They were in the excerpt of Gardena where my parents had their first home in Gardena, California.

And then they, you know, they expanded locally. And I will say there's about 50 locations now. I like that this place is like not super expensive. You know what I mean? I love that about it. But this is a place that could be, but like... Lopsarol for $13.

I know that $13 is a price of a sandwich, but for lobster roll. You will not find one in New England for $13. For $13. Even as skimpy as that one. And this is, I would say, a shitty one. That wasn't bad. I think this is like kind of like, you know,

not a meat and threes place, but that sort of concept. It's mostly I think people get their, their fish and their sides. Like you get a, you get a, it's like Chipotle. It's like Chipotle, yeah. And, but it's like better quality than that. It's like decent quality. And then you go there if you, you'll ever dine in, I'm not sure if anyone's done.

Like, you know, there'll be guys in a, like work at an auto body shop who are there on their lunch break because it's like this is an affordable, healthy lunch. So. Yep. And then there's guys like us working in the content minds. Right, right. There's a TikTok in those hills. I'm sad, though, it is. I don't take my...

Oh, no. I love that. It does have sustainably sourced seafood, and primarily Fish and Sites Place, like I said, but yes, they do have lobster rolls, fish and chips, shrimp tacos, pokey, all the favorites. I can tell you what I love and what I don't like about it. I love that it's healthy.

I love that it's not expensive. I love that it's easy and quick, especially when I get it delivered. And also, yeah, sure, it's ethnic... ethically, you know, whatever. But, like, I, I'm never excited to eat California fish grill. I agree. You know what I'm saying?

First of all, the name is just so, it's California fish grill. There's nothing to it. But I'm never like, if I'm eating any other fast food or any other chain restaurant, I'm like, ooh, I get to have this. I'm always, like, titillated. California fish grill, I'm like, oh, I'm eating fucking fish and zucchini. and like tilapia. I'm like,

you know what I mean? It's not a treat. It's not a treat. I will say. It does seem like a fake, it feels like one of those new fake restaurants that you're like, what is, California Fish Girl just feels like,

whereas like Henry's cheese steaks, you know, this isn't a real place that I'm going to. No, it's just the name of the thing that you're doing. Yes. Yeah. And that's why I was like, I didn't want to get it at first.

Yeah. And then the first time I got it, I was like, this place is really, really good and it's healthy. But I do think that the quality here can, I think usually, it's pretty good.

And then if you get a bad California fish grill, it's bad. But that's like fish. If you get like a bad piece of fish, you're fuck. It's local, this is a local specific thing, but it also does not benefit from the association, they're different brands with California chicken cafe.

That's right. Which is another like place I'll get, but I'm not excited about. No, it's another three name. Exactly. Like, not exciting place. Also another place too where you're like, you can get it,

but this is pretty good. And then you get the bad, like there is sometimes when you get a bad, quality version. You're like, I'm eating trash. Yeah, this one sucks. Yeah. Do you, like, for me, though, I'm more excited than Chipotle or not Chipotle than, which we mentioned earlier. I'm more excited than like sweet green. Like sweet green to me as like, it's like fucking sweet grain, you know. No. It's, that's really bad. Right. I feel like that's like any like salad, like tender greens too. I'm just like. Tender greens too. I'm just like. Tender greens was. We've talked about this before, but that was like, and I'm sure you remember was like such a go-to. lunch spot for writer's room. And I do think the quality of it was good. And then they expanded and then the quality got pretty bad. But I still, I liked tender greens way more than I liked sweet green.

I think both of them have had a rocky few years. At my job, we did get tender greens for lunch a couple weeks ago. And, or maybe it was, it might have been last season. It was. Yeah. I know where you're going with this. And two of us, me and another writer both got salmon and we both got really bad diarrhea and food poisoning.

And I remember, this was the reveal. It happened to me the same week, right? It happened to me the same week. And I, and I, we bleeped it on the podcast because we were trying to be nice. Oh, do we have to bleep it? Is that a lie to the thing? Allegedly, there's no proven connection. I like tender green.

Could be coincidental. So I'm rooting for them to be good again. That happened twice to me at Jones on third. Oh, wow. We got catered Thanksgiving one year at, you know, you guys know John Gemberling. Yeah. Yeah. So at his house.

Yeah, so at his house, he ordered catering from Jones on third. Like a bunch of people vomited. Oh, my God. And then the next year someone else got it catering from Jones. And also people got food poisoning. Joan, you bitch. What are you doing? I feel like it was like, maybe it's just like the holidays or something like that.

Or they use a catering kitchen or something. Yeah, or like they had they force my head went to like they force like the people to work because they're so like understaffed during Thanksgiving and like. They have to send out so much food. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. So they're like, oh, you're six still come in. You know what I think it is? I think the chef might have been eating shit.

That's probably it. That's probably it. That's kind of losing out of his pores. Yeah. Breathing on the food. For sure. Is Joan a real person? Is she is?

I think there is a Joan. Oh, I've seen her before. I've met her. Oh, really? I'm God. I'm sorry. No, we've dated. Does she eat shit?

She does eat shit. Yeah. We went to see Air America and she shepherding. Amelia, we're having Gill on the podcast, and you had an observation. California Fish Gill. Well, that's not where it started. Oh. Remember? You said it's perfect because fish have gills.

Oh, yeah, and fish have gills. Yeah, right. And then you went to California fish gill. Yes. So I think that's worth noting. I feel like it's definitely worth. That's probably why I have such a deep connection. to it.

Anything that sounds like my name, I'm like, wow, this is... This is huge for me. I'm huge for us. I say us. Because I like to include it. It's like family, you know. So both you got the tilapia plates. And I got a wild rockfish plate.

I did not know you ordered that. We both separately ordered tilapia plate. Wow. That was cool five, too, on top of it. Yeah, that was really cool. And you went rockfish, which is the one I was looking at, but I went tilapia. How was your rockfish? I like my rockfish quite a bit.

Amelia, you also had something on this. Yeah. Don, do, do, do, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don, do, do, do, do, do, do, no, no, no, no. The song is rock lobster, not rock fish, but. Rock, rock, rock, fish. Oh, I got to see, I went to see the B-52s at the bowl a few months ago. Oh, man, that's cool.

So dope. It was great. And Devo was there, too. Oh, my God. It was great. What a nice. I had a little child crush on the two B-52 ladies. Oh, my God, me too.

Yeah, from the, from Love Shack, from the Love Shack. How great is Fred Schneider? Oh, my God, he was great. Although he is more tired. I can imagine, right. Time for bed. I'm not, I don't know why I decided to be impressioning. That was a very half attempt.

So, okay, garlic sauce, because this is part of the charm of this place, you get to choose whatever your sauces. Garlic sauce, you've got half Cajun half garlic. butter, which is a go-to for me too, but a lot of times just get full Cajun. Because honestly, I think they just give you two dipping sauce. If you get it on the side, they just give you two dipping sauces. Right. Oh, you can split it. You can split it. Yeah.

Whoa. A little hack. It is, it is. I mean, the garlic butter is the best one, I think, of all of them. But it is very garlicky. It is. And so I get the lingering sort of garlic feeling sometimes. I got something I never get, which is the seasoned olive oil, which is another option

for my wild rock fish. I liked it quite a bit. You did. Yeah. I couldn't taste the difference between that and no seasoning. It does seem just kind of taste like olive oil. I agree with you. Like I'm not sure how seasoned it is. Okay, okay. But I don't know. I got the job done. It was tasty. The Cajun is very well, the garlic butter also is pretty strong flavor.

It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do, I like that garlic oil. You definitely taste that Cajun kind of feels like you're down in the bayou, Mitch. It does seem like you down the bayou. Wait, are you trying to, are you trying to make me do more voices? Let me tell you this. If you were at a movie theater and you had to eat a log of shit, that garlic butter would cover it up. Who would cover it up? Yeah. I don't think anyone would be the wise.

But unless you can like smell three layers down. I don't think you could stump the buff here. I feel like someone's going to have to eat shit so that she can prove this. Are you related to someone? Yeah, someone has to eat shit. You're right now. Are you related to the guy who asked to smell people's breath in Emma's bar? I do do that, though.

Do you really? Yeah, it's a party. trick I can do. And you say what they what they ate? What they ate for breakfast. No. Breakfast specifically.

Oh yeah, just like the last meal that you had. The last meal they had. Because I was going to say like it's like I've had two meals since breakfast if you could and some snacks

if you could tell my breakfast that would be impressive. Get over here and sniff his breath. I don't want you to sniff my breath. You're also yogurt. Yogurt. I do not. You're guessing.

You're guessing wildly. Sniff his breath. I don't want you to sniff my breath. I don't want you to sniff my breath. I'm not going to sniff a lot. As your boss, I demand you sniff. This breath, you've got to do it.

Denver omel? A log of shit. If you didn't eat yogurt, a great guess, Amelia. I have the guess where you would be cottage cheese. Or a banana. Or oatmeal. A banana. Yeah.

I see, I assume with the oatmeal or the yogurt, banana's in there somewhere. It's part of your day. I just had a banana. I wasn't very hungry. Okay, okay. I had a cup of black coffee. I didn't get good sleep.

I mean, I almost felt you have to say you didn't have breakfast. have breakfast this morning if this is, if you're making us guess what it is. Like a banana? I just say, when he walked in, I could, I, I, I smelled banana. I was like, Jesus, someone ate a banana for breakfast. Do you get what I'm saying? Yes. If you had just a banana, if you had a banana, yogurt, I'd be like, okay, that's your breakfast.

I don't think, I don't think you can say because. I think this almost goes to snack territory is what I'm saying. Oh, my a. It's not a meal. It's not a meal. Your AM snack. But I think the first thing. I had in the morning still is breakfast.

Yeah, you're breaking the fast. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. But I get what you're saying. Yes, it's a piece of fruit. I will say, why, I had the same exact breakfast as you. Wow. Me and a banana.

Wow. My breakfast was two shrimp tacos. Hell yeah. At 6 p.m. At 6 p.m. Jesus Christ. I had a coffee. Does I come?

I also did not, I took me forever to fall asleep last night, so I slept in this morning because I, like, didn't want to be exhausted. Did you go to, like, a restaurant, or they were in your fridge or something? something? What? Oh, no, it was what I had here. Oh, that's what I had from California fish Oh, really? That was your breakfast? Yeah, that's the first food I ate. Oh, my God. You're looking at me thinking that this is my first meal. I know. I actually also had a banana. Wow. Whoa. But also had a Dave's killer bread, uh, everything bagel with with chive cream cheese. Oh, that's fun. I knew it. I knew it. Everything bagel, you can definitely smell that. You'll never guess what I

had. Uh, grits. Oh my God! I had yogurt with passion fruit. We went to the farmer's market this weekend. Oh, man, he's loving that. Have you ever had passion fruit with a little bit of peanut butter? No. You got to try it.

Sad news for them. Yeah, I've developed a peanut allergy in middle age. Oh, you did? I don't eat peanut allergy. But I do like passion fruit. Yeah. I can see how those work together. Put honey on it then if you can't put peanut butter.

Oh, that sounds like a delight. It's really good. It's really good. I will very often. How it's more almond butter in there instead? You can't. Almond butter? Oh, you can't?

Oh, almond butter. Yeah, you do almond butter. What do you think I said? Regular butter? I thought you said lemon butter. Oh, no. I was like, lemon butter. Oh, no.

Not a replacement for peanut butter. You're always talking about lemon butter. No, don't put that, no actual butter. I'm saying, like a peanut alternative butter. But Mitch, you're in my Gert Chat. You're in our Gert Chat, which is embarrassing. It's our yogurt chat we have with our friends. I get out of Anastasia.

So three people eating breakfast in me just being like, it looks good. I'm never eating breakfast. I posted the least. I do try to eat yogurt. You do. And you'll sometimes post a pick of like an Italian sub or something. I'll start sending you pictures of my yogurt bowls and you can send them as your own. Oh, I love that.

You send pictures of your yogurt. Yeah, when we have yogurt or oatmeal is also valid. We'll send it to each other and just say like, ooh, that looks good. But I very often will have some berries and then like some, some, you know, full fat Greek yogurt on top of that. And then I'll just kind of peter north it with some honey. And I find like just the little drizzle of honey is a delight. Yeah. But Peter North

doesn't do little drizzles, does he? That's a great point. We taught about this before. Peter South was what we Deso. Peter South was Peter South. I was Peter South at the alt-wist Mike Mitchell.

Didn't we say that Peter South had like a tiny dick? Peter South had a small dick and shot small loads. Yeah, right. So I got Peter South it. Didn't we have a reverse Dolly Parton, too, at one point?

That was a reverse Dolly Parton. What's a regular Dolly Parton? Big titties. We had another version for Dolly Parton. But you remember I told you that at Dollywood that the roller coaster, it goes into her boobs and you believed me? Yeah, I believed it. I believed you and you just said it too. I want to see I've said it doesn't.

Yeah. It doesn't happen. There's no boob coaster. I lied. Everyone's fish. We were enjoying our fish? Yeah. I thought mine was good.

That was great. It was better than I expected, honestly. Let's talk sides because, Gil, I have here that you got the street corn and the white rice. How was that treating you? I like the corn. Is your corn a go-to? It is. But, you know, I order it a lot, so I mix it up.

But I do love the corn. I like the corn. Wait, so corn is like, like, you mix it up, but you mentioned like zucchini earlier. I'll go, yeah, I'll do all their sides. Right. Yeah, I'll mix it up so I don't get sick of it. I actually will do the same thing here because they have some salad. I always try to get at least one green.

So they'll have like some salads, you know, you can get like a house salad or I think they have a mini Caesar salad. They have-I-M and I both got the house salad with balsamic vinaigrette. And then you can also get like asparagus or Brussels sprouts. There's a few different options. I don't want some asparagus today. I got the I got the asparagus today. Let's smell that piss. That's a different segment.

The asparagus was, yeah. I, you not only have to smell the breath. You have to see. You also have to smell the fish. I have a story about it. that. We could talk about the food and stuff. Wait, no, no. Let's tell your piss story. All right. Well, I went to eat at this restaurant that had an outdoor patio. And it smelled horrible outside. And we were, it was a birthday dinner party. And we were like, what is the

source of the smell? And then I realized there were grates on the floor for like drainage. And we were smelling urine every time the toilets were flushing. Oh my God. It's disgusting. So I was like, I was like, I was like, I need to test this hypothesis. I ate asparagus that day, earlier that day. And I, I took a piss. Whoa, this is like Sherlock Holmesie. Yes, Sherlock Piss.

And then I was like, I'm going to flush the toilet after I piss. I'm going to come out. And if it smells like my asparagus piss, then we know what the source is. So I came out. By the way, so fucking disgust. And it smelled like a toilet. I came out. And it smelled like a.

So I was right. It's fucking disgusting. Yeah. Your own piss. By the way, asparagus piss doesn't smell like asparagus. Asparagus piss. It has that. It has that smell.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know it's asparagus. I don't eat asparagus anymore. And that was going to the whole patio. Whole patio. You don't eat asparagus anymore you gross yourself out from pissing and smelling it through the grate? Yeah, just in general. I just find it so, like, revolting the smell of asparagus piss that I avoid it.

I kind of get that. Yeah, it is pretty gross. It's pretty disgusting. I will sometimes get alarmed by the, uh, the Beets red piss. Okay, we had Beets for dinner last night, and Mike this morning was like, was your piss red? And I was like, no, my piss has never been red after beats. Does this just not happen to me? No, that doesn't happen to me. My, my, my piss doesn't turn red.

I used to have this, I'd tell this joke that I used to have, like, corn from my shit, a piss, a asparagus piss, and pineapple come, and I would make a savicea. You should add beats to that, yeah. My spurious was... My spragus was very flavorful. Usually I'll get rice there. I just like, they have good rice. Yeah, they do have good rice. I did see an Instagram video of yours where you go into the toilet.

Oh, yeah. Grab of shit. Yes, yeah. Wait, wise, if you had asparagus, you can probably go piss in the AC and we can see if it's working. I'm not going to piss in the air conditioner. My limits. I also got sweet potato fries, of course they're not going to travel great.

They're sweet potato fries were decent. Their takeout containers for the fries were interesting, too, because they had little slits in the side. They weren't fully closed in, which I feel like is bad gills, if you will. Oh, shit. They have like a spicy aoli that it comes with, and it's genuinely spicy, which I like because I'm a bit of a heat seeker. It was like, oh, this has some real burn to it.

You know. Mitch, how are your sides? I got the Brussels sprouts, which is like one of their A plus, like a fan favorite side. Is that an upcharge? It might be an upcharge. It was at one point. I don't know if it still is. What?

The, sorry, the Brussels sprouts. No, upcharge. I don't know. No upcharge. I think it used to be an upcharge at one point. But have you had those before? Yeah, they're good. They're good.

They do a good job with them. Is that the, have the other beans? I have other beans. I like beans are actually good. Beans are solid. I was auditioning for something, like, I, what is it, auditioning for something? And I ate California Fish Grill and I was taking a shot. And it was like one of the, it was like a callback thing.

And I was nervous and I barfed up those beans. Oh my God. So I talked about, because I bought for up Jersey mics, but I also barfed up California Fish Grill. Wow. Yeah. From nervousness. From nervousness. That's everybody.

Will that happen during like auditions where you'll, it'll come out this way instead of that way? No, it was actually, I, I like never used to throw up. But then with the shot, I like it, it made me, it fucked up my gag reflex. I didn't, I didn't put, when you said shot, you met the GLP1 shot. You didn't mean like you took a shot for courage before. No, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the GLP1 show. Was this in person?

No, no, I didn't barf beans onto like, whatever, the casting director. So you were like on, you were like on Zoom or something like this. Yeah, I was on Zoom. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, I remember I barfed in the shower and there was just like Jersey mics in my shower. I do remember you barf me in the shower, yeah. Yeah.

And I never, look, the, the, the, it got, we got gross in here. I'm sorry, we got, we got dirty and we apologize. Right. We're sorry for getting gross. You barfing in your shower is gross compared to the other things you do in your shower. Great point, Emma. Yeah. Shut up.

I've got to give you a real test at that restaurant. What's that smell? Are the presents presents, is it like a balsamic glaze? I apologize if you already said this. Yes. Okay, so it's kind of the standard preparation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good.

It's a good, it's a good side. I'll say this. This is the same thing. If you get a bad version of it, it's very, they'll be too greasy or like kind of too much oil in them. Yeah. And the same with the fish. Like, there's been like one or two times where I've gotten a California fish growing.

I'm like, this is like almost close to an edible. Right. And then other times I've gotten around like, this is like for a healthy meal is like one of my favorite things to have delivered. Yeah. And you feel like not like shit after you eat it. Yes. And that's why like I will,

Even having like an occasional like one or, you know, one out of 10 or, you know, one out of 20 even probably more realistically bad meals there. I still will never give that place up. Yeah, it's like it's like bad but like not like I'm going to have diarrhea. Like I've never gotten sick from this place. No, no, no, no. So knock on wood. So so let's talk the lobster roll, Mitch, because you got one of those. I took one bite of that bad boy. What does you think of it? Not great. I mean, like it was fine. Like we were saying, it was $13. And it was Connecticut style. And it was Connecticut style. You had a little drawn-butter you were asking about the, you were asking the difference between New England style is mayo and cold. And sometimes in a warm, sometimes in a grilled,

warm, grilled bun, cold stuff. That's the way I like it the most. But then Connecticut style is the, the butter? The hot butter. Usually hot lobster with hot butter on it, right?

What's the main style? There's a main style one too and it's weird. That's like I think the shit that we were talking about. Yeah, yeah. I think they take the lobster. They take the green stuff. In Maine, it's always, well, the way my family makes it is always a little bit of mayo and celery. And they make like a salad out of it basically put that in toasted buns.

So that's the way we've always done it. I don't know what the main style. I'm looking it up right now. New England is inclusive of Connecticut. So it's a little confusing. Some people would argue no, but it is definitely inclusive of Maine. So New England style is maybe Maine well, people argue about Connecticut because they say it's like split half New York, half New England. Got it.

So like, New England. Connecticut Maine. But like the tri-state area tries to not claim it also. So I'm not really sure where it lands. Wow. What are the different types of lobster rolls? I'm looking like.

Main lobster roll features cold. But that is just New England. Yeah, I think the main style is the New England style. I think they're the same thing. Oh, okay, okay. I think there are just two names for the same thing. I think it should be Maine style and Connecticut style. Two states.

Yeah, two states. Yeah. Hey, fuck you. You're trying to take it away from New England? I think so. The lobster's gone from a. Fucking California piece of shit. They don't pull lobsters are the water.

You decide that it's just fucking. I think you better with Maine. They don't pull lobsters out of the water in Boston or Connecticut. They all come from Maine. There's some lobsters from in Boston. Isn't it illegal down there now? They're like all the laws are super weird. Well, back in the day, it wasn't illegal.

What about like finding Nemo? The lobsters were from Boston. That's a great point. It's a really good point. Thank you. Okay. Emma. All right.

Mainstile, cold with nail and Connecticut. So they're not saying New England style. They are just saying Maine style. New England style. I think they're the same thing. Yeah. I thought it was fine. I think the lobster roll is there because they're like...

It was... It was... Yeah, for a lobster roll was pretty bad. It feels obligatory, though, right? It's like, we have to have one. And the same way they have fish and chips, it's like, we have to do this. This is people expect it.

I will say, I think their fish tacos are decent. I'm curious what y'all thought. Because I got a battered fish taco, and you also got a bridge. Someone just walked by. It's Tony. Yeah, so I think... Tony, are you here?

Sorry, really? Hey, sorry. I'm good, we were just... Recording with the door oven Oh, no, no, you're fine, you're fine. We're sorry. D.C.'s broken, so we were just keeping the door open. Sorry.

Tony, one of the other other engineers here who, the other producers here, works on some other headings. Hi, Tony. I met you before. You, I had not... Hi, Gil.

This is Gil. Nice to meet you. How's everybody? Tall Tony doesn't eat bologna. You're a vegan. That's true. And I bet there's some pretty good simicrobes of that.

Yeah, I'm sure. Tony, has anyone said that to you or did he make this up to remember? I remember it's a mnemonic device I made up that I think of freaked you out. So I apologize. Look, it just, I get like really bad flashbacks to being, I don't know, well, that. Or Tony Bologna in general. There's Tony, there's toe knee.

They would point at the toe at the toe. Oh, that's a tough one. It's actually a good one, actually. It actually is pretty good. So, look, I won't interrupt any longer. Very happy to see you all. Well, Tony, you got, to warn you. You got some payback because you were freaked out by Nick a little bit,

but you just freaked us out because we had the door open we heard banging and when you said I just saw a guy walk by I was terrified that there was someone in a fucking building

and you're wearing a beanie like you're a burglar I mean I haven't told you why I'm here yet I hope you steal some of head gum stuff they deserve it It is hot it's hot in the room

It's gotten hot It's gotten hot Yeah which as everyone knows the hotter gets the better It's better for comedy Yeah that's what you want That's the number one rule.

Delclose is number, if you read the book, his number one rule at the end is turn up the heat. Turn up the heat. Turn up the heat. Turn up the heat. Turn down the AC. Are you ever a sauna guy? You ever do that? I do. Yeah.

Yeah. I like sonnas. Have you ever, because I, this is just making me think of a guy, like, there was, I was a, at my gym I used to go to, we'd go in the sauna. I was a steam room. And there was one guy who'd be there who I'd see semi-regular. He was like, tried to be funny in there. Oh, no. Jesus Christ.

We just want to sit quietly, you know? We don't even want to, I don't want to converse at any level. Was he doing bits in there? Was it like, what was, what was happening? I told this before that he went in and was like, was like, oh, it's like a son in here. Oh, yeah, that's a bad. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, that's fun. He's like, oh, you know that one?

It's like, yeah, I think it was, like, I'll throw some salmon on the stones. You got to know that one? That's fun. That is fun. Anyway, I reached up, I was like, oh, yeah, I heard that on Seinfeld. He's like, oh, yeah, Kramer, yeah. And then he goes to, it's messed up what happened to him. He's defending Michael Richard.

You know what? I got to visit this sauna. What happened to him? I'll make him laughing. A terrible thing he went through, my lord. But any time I'd see him, I'd like 10 seconds after the Michael movie, right? He directed the Michael movie. What happened to Mike?

I'll make him laughing the sauna. Take my towel off. Are we're closing the door? The door is closing. The studio's about to be used and he's got a setup so I don't want to like make him. Well, I'll turn the fans out. You know, it's sauna time for us anyways. There's a cord starting at 8 p.m.

Conover's doing a monologue. Oh, Conover's doing a monologue. Oh, shit. Tony's going to be here all night. Is that why the painters and everyone was coming or were they were going to fix the archways for, Adams' hair. Because they just changed all the doors. Yeah, they had to fix the door.

The archways. His, as Buffant damaged the ceiling, so they have to repaint that. Yeah, that's repainted. Just kind of was scraping the top of it, the surface of it. I thought the, I thought the fish taco, the batter fish taco is just totally decent. There's a lot of places you get a good fish taco in L.A. obviously. But it was like, if I want a fish taco, I want something different than a fish plate, this gets the job on.

Do you remember that craze? Actually, honestly, well, you were, you were, I was going to say, I, I, I, I, I, I, I feel like the fish taco craze was maybe before the big burger craze. I was wondering if it was even before you got here because it was like the fish taco and it was best fish tacos in Encinita was one of the spots. Yeah. Fish tacos have always been out of here. Yes, of course.

But you remember like when there was like all like best fish taco was like a big spot. I do remember in their early aughts when it became like, oh, this place has the best fish to like there's a place calling itself best fish taco as their claim to fame. But like all these, like, oh, you got to go to this spot. you get to this spot. And a lot of people were like just discovering this, the breaded fish taco. And Wahoo's always existed. There was always places in L.A.

that I went to before. Yeah, Rubios. Rubios, yeah. When we, me and my dad and my brother ran that half marathon, our hotel was right by the original Rubio's location. Did you hit it or no? I thought about it. And I was like, no.

I should have gone. Okay. I should have fucking gone. Is it really good? I like Rubios. Yeah. No, no, no. Ruby is very solid.

If you like fish taco. In 2005, when I first moved here, like, Wahoos felt like just, you know what, Baha Fresh also felt like a big deal. Baja Fresh used to have a good fish taco. Baja Fresh, and then in Waho's, like, that felt like a big, both of them felt like big deals when I first moved here. And then a few years later, this is when best fish tacos and a couple other places. But now that crazes kind of seem to die a little bit. It's subsided. And now you can get one at California Fish Grill.

And it is fine. I would say it's fine. Fine is a good way to describe it. I feel like it's a pretty standard, like, thing you'll see on a chain race. restaurant menu or like a gastro pub now. It's kind of like you're just going to see fish tacos. Yeah, fish tacos. Exactly. People get mad because we know they've been

around for, but specifically that style of I get you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you think of your, your shrimp taco? I got the same one as you. Oh, you get the fish taco, I'm sorry. I'm gonna get the shrimp taco. I apologize. I loved it. They were great little like crispy fried trim. There's four of them in each taco. It was like, I got two tacos, perfect little meal. Yeah.

Perfect breakfast. Perfect breakfast. And I love the fish taco. You're satisfied with yours. Wow. We also got the coconut. shrimp, Mitch. This was a thing that you added to the order and I was like,

let's double up. I love the coconut. Look. You, I'll say this. When you, I put in my order. We should also say, Mitch, coconut shrimp is a penthouse food. This is the thing we establish.

I actually don't. Penthouse, the magazine. Pennhouse the magazine. You know, this is a thing we established with Gabris is that penthouse is something that's got a high floor. So like, like a,

Like a base level coconut shrimp is going to be pretty good. Pretty good. Yep. I order the fish. I order the coconut shrimp and I put my order in. Yeah. Nick then writes in his order with a bunch of shit. And then I also maybe double up the coconut shrimp order so we can all try.

And I said, yeah, order one if you want it. This is my response. It's only two shrimp in an order. It's good. I think it comes with two shrimp. Yes. So if you want Gill and table to try it, you probably need an additional two. I plan on eating it as a part of my meal.

I texted Susser. I texted Susser. And I said to Susser, I said, make sure you get me my own coconut shrimp. I said to Susser. Susser also pointedly didn't join for the meal, what usually does. Well, he's still with the Dodeiac.

Oh, he's with the Dodex. Of course, he's with the Dotyack. So that would prevent him from how can I forget? He was on Dodec jury duty today, is from what I understood. I texted Susser, I put him. quotes. Also, maybe double up the coconut shrimp order so we can all try. And I wrote Piggy Mitch not thinking of everyone else. I knew there were only two in an order. You're bulls. It felt fucking, it felt fucking, it felt fucking like I was being a pig.

I knew that, I didn't think you were being a pig. It wasn't passive aggressive. I was going to think you're in a pig. I'm going to call you a fucking pig. It seemed a little, it seemed a little, it seemed a little passive aggressive. How did the deus interpret this? I didn't think of it anyway, except for the fact that there are two in an order and five people in the So everybody wanted shrimp, you need three orders. That's what I thought it was. Just say you wanted the shrimp, you fat fuck. You got your own order of coconut shrimp?

I got my own order of coconut shrimp. Wait, so there were eight coconut shrimp total? Wow. And they almost all got eaten. Yeah, I had one. But also, I just said this to you, listen to me. Order your own coconut shrimp, you fat fuck. Don't put it on me.

It's not my fault that I wanted it. I did order my own coconut shrimp. That's what I was saying. Yeah, I know you were afraid to. And I had the ball. I had the balls to do it. I thought it was the fear from. I ordered it.

myself. You both ordered it and I thought Wagger was saying if other people are going to want to try it, we should add more because I'm going to eat it. I should respond to with, hey, maybe we should double up on the asparagus in case other people want it. That's the type of shit. No. It just seemed like cross the line, Mitch.

I'd been offended if you'd done that. No, I mean, who gives, yeah, if we want to get another asparagus, who gives a shit for the table? Susser then said that he was going to say it to the text group. I said, don't do that. It's going to get Nick mad. I'm not mad, we're fine. It seemed, it seemed, it's, I don't think it was a big deal.

I don't, I don't even think I read what you're talking about, to be honest. None of this registered to me as weird until now. I'm just like a bystander here, but I feel like you guys should never, ever talk to each other. That's actually probably true. Ten years. Well, Gemberland was mentioned earlier that was making me think. Remember we had Gemberling on for, I think, a little Caesar's episode,

and we had a, we had a fight on that episode because I was picking up the little Caesar's order that you placed via phone, and then I had trouble getting it because there were two little Cedars on the same street. Oh, it sounds like you fucked you up bad. But also you put the order under Mario, which is an added complication. That's funny. It was funny. So you're at the wrong little Cedars going, Mario? That's funny. I was funny back then. I agree it's funny. I don't know what's happened. Am I the person you've talked to the most in your life now? It's a possibility.

I've talked to my wife more than you, Mitch. All right, I was going to say, your wife, maybe. I thought maybe she was first or second. That's a maybe. That's rough. What's the answer? Is it possible I've talked to you more than my wife? I can't, I don't think that's possible. Do you consider Nick's wife a person?

I think I've talked to Nate Weiger more than you over the course of my life. Nate Weigar, okay. I've talked to my parents more than you over the course of my life. Okay. And some childhood friends, I think one, it's getting close.

One childhood friend in particular, my buddy Brandon, who sometimes listens to the pod. Hey there, Brandon, if you're listening, he, I talk to him a lot. Because I, like, I still talk to him and then we talk to skids. I'm going to apologize. It's getting hot in here. I'm getting hot in here. It is getting hot in really quickly. It fucking heated up so fast.

It's awful. This sucks. When he's sun setting up and closes the door all open. It is fucking crazy. Comedy needs cold. Comedy doesn't even cold. And fights need heat. And fights need heat.

Jerry Springer. they were turned the heat up. Would they really? I know. Wow, I believed it. I believed it like the Dolly Parton thing. It's crazy what a hotbox has turned into just with the door closed. I didn't realize how much work the door was doing.

I was just making fun. I was just making fun of you. I was trying to have fun, but it's fine. It worked. We're having fun. Sometimes you make comments. Sometimes you do a little, you know, sometimes you make some comments like that. You know, you're having fun, right? I'm having the best time.

We're all having fun. Everyone's having fun. Everyone's having fun. I'm out of laugh. Yeah. I do have to go to the bathroom to eat a little piece of shit. We can take a break. Go any time.

He was joking. You're too gullible. That was a joke. I believed it too. I thought it was real. We got to be like, this is a mess. Everyone is falling in the point of here.

I thought, Gil needs to go the bathroom. We can open the door. It's the heat. It's the heat. I thought you were going to go piss, but then the shit eating was a joke. Yeah, on top of that, yeah. But no, you don't have to at all.

How about that? Let's get to the fork. Clamp chowder. What did you think of clamp chowder? The clam chowder was good. I'm something of a sides queen. I got all sides. I got the clam chowder, the coconut shrimp,

and a side taco. All delicious. Clam chowder, consistency of gravy. That's what we, I got to, I try to scoop of it. A little thin. And gelatinous. Actually, it was a little gelatinous. It just tastes like gravy.

It really is like. Amelia described it as thin and gelatinous at the same time. The way it looked was thin and gelatinous. I would say that. it wasn't like super. There was no, I didn't get any potatoes in my one taste of it. Did you? No. Yeah.

Potatoes. I don't even know there was potatoes in there. That's weird. I don't know. Weird choice. We said, we were saying that it tasted like a KFC gravy. Yes. So I don't know. That's like already not great. Well, yeah, yes. Yeah. I mean, it was good. It was bad, but it was good. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's very low on the list of I would say, what would you give it? Like a C minus. For me. Clam Cheddar is a penthouse food for me. I disagree with you. Yeah. I disagree with

I do think pet house items are personal. Yeah, because I think I think it's some really wretched clam chowder. You know what? It looks like, it looks like a combo between New England clam chowder and like, is a Connecticut clam chowder? That's the clear one. Rhode Island, I think. Rhode Island. Yeah.

I like the Rhode Island chowder. Yeah. Are you a chowder guy? I do like chowder, yeah. What's your go-to style? New England, okay. Yeah. Because there is Manhattan, but you're from Queens.

Yeah. No, I'm from Queens, so I hate Manhattan. Manhattan. Manhattan one's tomato-based, right? I just know that's kind of weird. Yeah. It's like a thin, really thin soupy. I don't get it.

I don't know how secretive is, but I'm in a chowder club. And you've been. I got invited. What does that mean? We chowder, and we all have spoons with our names written on it. How often do you meet? Does yours say spoon man? Please say yes.

Mine says Mitch on it. I know. It's cool, though. We meet like every couple months, I'd say. Oh, wow. Every few months. Something of a secret society. Yeah.

But you have a special. guest that gets invited. I was the special guest for one meal and disappointed everyone. Why did you disappoint everyone? I think they were hoping that it would be like Aziz or something. Oh, okay. Someone more famous. Someone actually famous. We are, we, that's not just a famous. No, we had fun. We had a lot of fun. Great crew there. I'm friends with, we're friends with everybody. Yeah. Me and Michael and Jeffrey. The gang. The gang. The gang. I can't say too much more.

I feel like maybe I've already said too much. I like that you tease its existence. That's fun. Okay. Hey, buddy, sleep is so important. A good night's rest sets you up for a great day, and that's why we love helix mattresses. Mitch, how long have you had your helix?

Why, because it's been seven or eight years. It's almost time for a new helix for me, but you know what? It's as soft as the day I got it. Wow. That's true. I have a helix moonlight lux mattress. It feels like a cloud. I love it.

You know who else loves it? Wally and Irma. Cute. My mom, when she comes to town, she'll sleep on it. I'll sleep somewhere else. My sister as well. I'll sleep somewhere else. Okay.

It's a beautiful bed. I love the bed. It's been with me for a long time. I really like my helix sleep mattress. Mitch, you know, this is, I usually am interviewing a guest, but I have some interview questions for you. How, like, how is your sleep improved since you had your helix? Why, so you know, me in the last seven years, I think you could say that it's an upward trajectory for me with sleep.

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checkout so they know we sent you Helixleep.com slash doboys. Okay, let's get to our final thoughts on California Fish Grill. So, Gil, this is how it's how it works in the podcast. We'll each go around, give our closing argument, if you will. We can talk about this experience

and our previous experiences and use that to come to a fork score from zero to five. So zero to five forks, your thoughts, your score, we'll start with you. Oh, okay. I will say, I don't know how it's, I'll just,

I will say that if you want a decent recent meal that's, you know, inexpensive. But you, that's kind of healthy. Go with this. But if you're looking for something exciting, this is not the place. And I'm going to go, it's out of how many? Five. Five.

I'm going to go right down the middle, two and a half. Two and a half forks. Wow, two and a half forks. Is that a lot? I can't tell. Actually, no, I would say. What would a great ratio? What would, I guess, if you, if you, the, five forks is like the, is, of course,

four and above is golden plate club for us, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is like a level of like, if you're in the golden plate. Okay, then I want to change my answer. Go ahead. I'll give it, uh,

I'll give it one and a half. Oh my God. I thought you're going to get it a lot. But you get it regularly. I get it regularly and I don't like it. Wow. I get that side of it. For me,

I was like, when I first tried it, I was like, is this like a five forker? Like, I was like, is this like the top of, and then I've gotten bad versions of it.

I still do really like it. And we try to judge it on what is it succeeding at what it's trying to do. Right. How is California Grip Fish Gill at succeeding at the concept of being California Fish Grill? I see. I would say today mine was like a three and a quarter meal. But I will say, first of all, I like that California Fish Gill is cool. That is cool.

We do have to admit that that is cool, Amelia. You are right. Never mind. You weren't paying attention. but for what it's trying to do be a healthy place like that, yes, one in ten times it can be bad. I am also like not excited to get it. But it is succeeding at what I'm trying to do. So I'm going to go, I'm going to squeak it in at four forks.

I know, so that's high. I know. I'm going high. But that is, that's where my heart is for it. I don't know if it deserves that, but I think at its best, I think it is four forks. Well, Mitch, here's what I would say. And I think that's well argued. And I agree that as far as the thesis of this podcast goes,

California fish grill succeeds at the promise of the premise. You get what you're expecting. Fish that's grilled. Fish that's grilled from California. From California. Yes. I like that it's a local place. I like that they have at least some effort at being ecologically minded.

Yes. And I like that here's the thing. You are correct. It is a boring spot. Yeah. I'm never like excited to get it. You're a boring guy though. I'm a boring guy.

And every time I get it, I'm like, you know what? This is going to be fine. Like I like like. You mean like life or? Or the meal. No, not life. Oh, okay, alright. I never say that about life.

No, the meal's gonna be fine. The meal's gonna be fine. And sometimes I have something like, hey, this is really good. And that's kind of my experience with the rock fish plate. I thought it was

surprisingly good. I had not got the rockfish before. I was like, maybe this will be a go-to for me. This is pretty flavorful. And I don't know. I mean, like, I think I'm in the handholding club with my co-host. I think I'm going to say four forks.

Wow. Because this is one of the few places that we cover on this pod. I shouldn't say a few places. I eat these fucking places all the time. But this is a place that I consistently go to. This is on the higher end, the higher usage rate of chain restaurants that we cover on the podcast.

And they're chains I don't eat that except for the podcast. You know what? Hearing your guys' arguments, I'm going to go down to a one. All right. Does not make the Golden Light Club, but a good outing from California Fish Grill. It's time for a segment. I will say that it is one of the places that we order

when in the office like four meals yeah yeah which is that's something very serviceable it's serviceable it's also like I don't really like Chipotle either but I'll get a Chipotle bowl sometimes because why the hell I'd rather have this than Chipotle that's fair either way I get that

by the way thank God we're doing a a cold drinker stank instead of the dry chips in this fucking sauna room it's yeah we ought to thank God to this Gatorade mashup so well on a second now let me shake it I just, I was making fun of your shit.

This is how you shake. You went like this. Mitch doesn't trust Amelia's shake. She just inverted it. Why don't you shake it like that? Are you, are you supposed to shake it? Well, I don't even know if you are.

Well, this is a Gatorade mashup-wise. Yeah, we've got a drink, and we're going to decide if you can't put it down your throat. It's drank or stank, and we've got this Gatorade mashup. This is a Gatorade Lemon-Lime Orange combo, two iconic flavors in one. I'm not quite sure how this works, but we're going to get into it.

Are you a Gatorade fan? I do. I used to think it tasted like sweat. But now I kind of like that taste. I've grown accustomed. It is like, I had a thing for, I mean. Red is my favorite. Red is my favorite.

Yeah. I like blue of a blue guy. But red is good. I like strawberry Gatorade quite a bit, the Fierce Strawberry. I actually like the orange quite a bit too. Yeah, Fierce is good. All right, Amelia has portioned out these, this Gatorade mashup. Cheers, my friends.

Cheers, buddy. To Michael. To Michael. Here we go. Pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good, but it's like... It doesn't have a lot of taste, doesn't it? That's the thing.

It weirdly, like, they neutralize each other to some degree. They do kind of neutralize each other. Pure electrolytes. It kind of does taste like ecto cooler. I loved ecto cooler. Ecto cooler was the, for our younger listeners. I think it's maybe around now, but it was high sea, green high sea with slimer was on it from Ghostbub. That was a lot of fun.

Do you mind if I take a sip from the actual... I don't give a shit. I wonder if I would be able to... I told Amelia that I... There's a lot of YouTube videos of people who are like guessing drinks. You think you can do it. I'm pretty good at it. And I'm just tasting this.

I'm like, I wonder if I would know that this was half lemon, lime, half... Like, it's... Oh, this is a wiger challenge. This is a wider challenge. I don't know if I'd be able... I'd be like, I know this is Gatorade, but I don't know if I'd be able to tell... And actually, even the taste of it would make me think it's not Gatorade because it's it kind of... Yeah.

leaves you off the trail. I would guess like Powerade lime or something. Sure. Because I was like it was not quite Gatorade, but then obviously this is not that. Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of a... Almost doesn't have enough taste. It's like a sweet water with a little bit of acid to it.

It's, this is really a strange thing to drink. I don't hate it. It tastes like a diet Gatorade or something. It does. Yeah. But this is a full sugar one. It is. It is. Full sugar.

Two iconic flavors in one. Oh, yeah. A lot of sugar. 190 calories per container. Oh, wow. Almost 200 calories. And how much sugar? Total sugar-wise,

guess how much sugar you're getting in this bad boy? I'm going to guess 56 grams. 48 grams. Wow, okay. Wow. I think this is, I think this is pretty good. I like that it's cool with us down. It's very hot in here.

Yeah, I like it. And, like, you know, if I was like on a run or something, I had this would be very refreshing. Yeah. So I'm going to give this a mild drink. I'm not excited about it, but it gets the job done. I love Gator, I think it was a thing after, it was sports stuff and then drinking Gatorade,

Gatorade, but I still do love. Well, hangover too, yeah. Hangover, yeah, yeah, yeah, anytime. Oh, that's what I meant by drinking, like a hangover cure. Right. I was telling you got a headache when this all started. How are you feeling now, why? I'm feeling okay, but it's not the Gatorade that replenished it.

Did the Coke help? I think it was the meal. I think it was a California fish grill, this nutritious meal. It was unexciting, but, you know, filled me up. I was saying, for me, Now, Advililililil, shower. But then the third thing that probably helps. Oh, wow.

Okay. Third thing is probably a Coke heavy. A Coke heavy will help a headache big time. Yeah. And people make fun of me for, they say that, like, that's not going to, and I'm like, it does. The sugar helps. Caffeine is huge for headaches.

It's like a big thing for people with migraines, too. Caffeine's a big more. Yeah, fuck off. Most headache medicine has caffeine in it. Right. I feel like this, this cherry Coke zero is kind of help purging me up a little bit, too. All right. So that might also be counteracting it.

I think this is not even in the top half of Gator. flavor. No. No. But still saying that, like, yeah, it's a drank. I give it a drink versus drank or stank because it's gatorade and I like gatorade. Gil, you have a vert here? I guess drank.

Yeah. Drank, yeah. Okay. Yeah. The dais is not interested in trying this. That's okay. Not really. That's saying something.

You were truly collecting pieces of fish at the end of the night and you don't want to take a sip of this. I'm not a big gatorade person. No. If I've been like, if I've been sweating a lot, I will. I had a doctor once tell me that Gatorade will actually dehydrate you unless you've been sweating a lot and to drink pediolite instead. Oh, interesting. So all through college, I would like chase shots or drink pediolite in the morning instead.

And now I'm just a liquid IV girl. I love liquid IV. That is that is, I do a liquid IV every night. And this is not paid. This is not a sponsor. No, this is not an adri. But yes, yeah, I do. Liquid IV is, yeah.

Just like a restaurant, I value your feedback. Let's up to the feedback. Today's email is from Reed. Reid writes, Whenever I go to a new city, I'm looking for good eating recommendations, anything that goes a little deeper than the top of the Bing results. My two main resources have always been spots that Anthony Bourdain visited and places you guys have gone to. Most recently animated a pit stop at Culver's on the way the Milwaukee airport could call, and the butterburger was well worth a detour. Solid root beer, too.

My question to you is, where do you go for your recommendations? Also, I'm opening a new comedy club in South Philly. Wow. we're keeping the menu simple, mostly hot dogs. If there's any type of Frank that Frank would like to see on the menu, my name is Nicholas Frank Weggar sometimes I go by Frank. I'm not going into it right now. We're not doing the bit.

There's not a setup for the bed. It's not a set up for the bed. It just happens to be in the, I'm just giving context for Gil. Or any condiment that the spoon man would like to see dolloped out. I'm proud to say that the doughboys have left an impression between our buns, love from Philly. We've got to go back to Philly. Yeah. Been back to the city of Blurrop.

It's funny that he's open a comedy club didn't mention, hey, you want to come and play here. Yeah, no. And our fans will eat lots of hot dogs. You know, a lot of the things that we've talked about on this podcast have been Jonathan Gold recommendations in the past. So I think that like a shout out to him for, for instance, Saps Coffee Shop. Saps Coffee Shop. Yeah, Saps Coffee Shop.

That's, that was Jonathan Gold. Tie place here. A Thai place. He has that one list of like best that I always go back to. Yeah, yeah. And they would like change. He would do it every year, but there is like his final one. I think people still like there's.

Because I think... It's like 101 restaurants. Did they still... Was L.A. Times, right? Yes. And do they still... Do they still do it every year? I think they may be...

I think they do it without him. And there are like some from his... Even from his old list there are still just like... Still on their stalwarts. Gil, do you have a place you go to for food recommendations? My favorite is friends. I like... Yeah.

I like to go to people who have actually been to the place rather than just like find it on. What about you? So for me, thank you for asking. You share it out Jonathan. gold. I'll shout out in front of the pod past guests, Farley Elliott. Very often, because I admit you find yourself as the host of a food podcast. I don't know fucking anything. Like, I'm dumb. I'm not, I didn't like go to culinary school. I agree. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah. So someone's like, hey, what are some great

recommendations for this type of food in L.A. or whatever? I'll sometimes just be like, uh, here's a Farley Elliott thing. Farley is maybe taking the crown from John. I mean. I think he maybe is. It's continuing the legacy. Oh, yeah. Continuing the legacy is better than taking the crown. No, but Farley is. It sounds like great, grave robbing. Farley who used to work for eater. and a lot of his eater lists are still up there. But now is at SFGate and, you know, has like a, does great content for them. And his food recommendations,

I mean, this is a guy who like knows all the restaurants of the city. Farley, who is a friend. Yes. Like a, so Farley. Is he L.A. He's L.A. based. Yeah, he's L.A. base.

But him and then other friends, like you were saying, like I'll talk to, Nick, I talk to you, ask you about food quite a bit. Yeah. And I, we're on a text chain, and I'll give people Boston Rex and stuff like that. It's always fun when someone ask you for Boston Rex and then you have. you have a Bible that you respond with. It's great. It's delightful. And I never, I should

write it down instead of continually be like, what do I have to? What do I have to? What are the ones? You should make like a Google list and like put them on there and you just send it to people. That's a good idea. I told Perez to go to Bovas. Oh, I love Bovas. I said modern, Mike's modern and Bov's. Our buddy Ryan Perez, Mitch.

Was just recently in Boston. Was just recently in Boston. And you were giving us some wrecks. And I was going down memory lane. And me and our mutual friend Charles Ingram also on this this thread. You were talking about. Pizzeria Regina and we're both like the best cheese pizza ever had.

Oh really? Yeah, it's really yummy. Hey, we're going back. In Boston, Pizzeria Regina. Do you have, do you have New York? Do you have like specific New York eats that you miss? And also like what, what were? Oh, yeah. I used to go, there's this place called Frankies

that's now in Brooklyn that I love. Okay. And I loved going there with my wife. Frankie Spontino, it's called. Is this a slice shop? It's, no, this is an Italian, restaurant. Hotel restaurant.

And there was one in the Lower East Side, too, but I don't think it's there anymore. But yeah. I was just there. I went to cats and Russ and daughters. I was there with my kids. And I was like, we were like in a hotel for my sister's wedding. And we were a couple blocks away from both of those places. So we just went there.

That was exactly what I was I was going to ask. I was like, are there tourist places that you? Because I love going to cats. Yes. And it's funny when some people are, actually, weirdly. enough the last time I went, the pastrami I got was like one of the only times where I was like, oh, this pastrami was like the end of it and it didn't taste

as good. But normally every time I'm there, I'm like, this is the best past pastrami in the world. It's really good. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. I can't believe I wore a fucking long sleeve like shirt today. I'm so fucking hot. I'm doubled up here. Yeah. You got layers. Yeah. It's got a hoodie on. I know, it sucks. It's so fucking hot.

Emma still got a jacket on. I don't know how any of you're, any of you're enduring that. The fucking A.C. Brooks's fucking flies in the fucking light switch. You want to know the ceiling? The floor back here is not carpet

and it's concrete and I'm wearing clog so I keep taking my shoes off and touching the cold concrete floor. Oh, fuck. Power move.

Will they get it fixed? Will they do it? Are they good at that? At some point, but probably not by the time we do the next episode. Why are they so... They got other stuff

going on. That's not at the offices. Emma Milia, where are you go to for Rex? That feels so much better. I know. Yeah, that's way better with the door open.

When Wake and I are a road tripping, I usually, if I know someone from the city I'm going to, I will ask them first, always. But if we're road tripping and we're somewhere in the middle of nowhere, Reddit is honestly, like the local Reddit, like, if you go to like our Atlanta or our whatever you are and just like look for food threads, you can kind of find some stuff in there. And then between that and reviews, we pick something. Yeah, some subredits are actually helpful. Yeah, I think so too. Reddit's great.

Yeah. Meals? Friends, Google reviews. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Okay. I do Eater as well where Farley used to work. Farley, it's when I'm not looking at Farley stuff, but Eater, I'll look at like the 28 list of restaurant.

Yeah, the other people working at Eater still doing great work. And then infatuation I'll look at two. Fatuation. Yeah. And wait, wait, I guess the other half of this is. And also come to the doughboys, we'll tell you. We'll tell you what to eat. The other half of this is...

Eat shit when you're hungry in the movie theater. Mitch if we're assembling... Mitch if we're assembling a hot dog and Gil is someone from the city of hot dogs. Sorry, Chicago. I think you can, I would like, you feel free to weigh in as well, but like what, what would we like to see on a hot dog

if some doughboys concoction is created at the South Philly Comedy Club? Oh, man. That's fucking, this is hard to come up with right now. I will say I... How would just ketchup? Like something different or just like...

I don't think it has to be anything unique. Uh-huh. I mean, I think we could do some standard components. What about the doughboys, just ketchup hot dog? You know, it only has a squirt of ketchup on it. Here's the thing.

I usually don't get ketchup about. hot dogs, I don't have a problem with people doing it. But, like, if it's just ketchup, I'm like, I still need some mustard on it. Should it be like a version of a ripper? You know, like, oh, my God, a ripper is great. Yeah. What about the Philly Ripper and you make it kind of like a Chicago dog? That's fun. But what's on it?

So, oh. Stake and cheese. That sounds pretty funny. I mean, honestly, that does sound fucking good. But if you did a, if you did a filth, if you did a ripper and then, I'm trying to think of like Philly specific stuff, but like how the Chicago dog has a pickle. Well, like, Philly, like Philly sushi rolls.

have cream cheese in them. I was going to say Doe Boy specific, is there a way for us to mash up Boston and L.A.? Is there a way for us to do New England and Southern California? Because New England owes seafood. I mean, like a...

What about Boston baked beans? A bean and Frank combo is pretty good. Frank and bean combo is pretty fun. It's like a spicy sauce of some sort for the heat. Right, right, right. Some sort of spicy sort of, yeah, yeah, you know...

I don't know. Yeah, some sort of Mexican sauce or something like that's fun. I like the name the Philly. Ripper just because it sounds like the guy who sucks on ponytails, kind of. Yeah, it does. It sounds like a serial killer. It sounds like a Philly Ripper. If you had a hot dog that you defried and you put cream cheese

and then the fried hot dog in there. That's fun. That sounds good too. And then maybe some crispy onion on top. And something spicy to go with the cream cheese. Spicy to go with the cream cheese. Tabasco. Well, Tabasco, it could be Tabasco. I think there's also like, you know,

since you mentioned spicy, I'm a bit of a heat seeker. Like, I feel like some sort of like spicy tie sauce might be interesting. Just like a chopped up jalapeno. Right. I like that. I also, how about, okay, cream cheese. Sorry, I got too excited about this.

We're trying to end the episode. Cream cheese and a grilled bun. Okay. Cream cheese in there. Fried dog. This is all on a plate, right? This is all, first of all, let's set everything's here. You got a plate.

There's a plate. There is a plate. And also, there is a table. There is a table. And you're sitting. Yeah, hopefully. You're sitting, plate table under the plate. It could be like there's some standing areas where you could have like a standing thing. You can eat it standing.

You can eat it standing. Philadelphia cream cheese, rip fried hot dog, cherry pepper relish. Oh, that's cool. I like that, man. Crispy onions. I don't know how it would taste, but I think it's kind of fun. I think it might taste pretty good. I'm remembering a snack we used to have as kids was cream cheese and salsa.

I'm not sure if you ever did that. I didn't think my brother would make. I was like, I was like, maybe if it, maybe cream cheese and just like pico de Gaio or like, a spicy pico could work. Do you think, what would you rather have? The cream cheese, the fried hot dog, and then, of course, we're going to end it with some crispy onions on there, but, like, you know what I'm talking about, like the fried crispy onions.

I know it's double-fri, but whatever. But would you like saracha on that instead of cherry relish or no? I kind of feel like the saratchas played out at this point. Yeah, yeah. I think the cherry pepper relish are just like a, again, just like a good quality spicy pico because they feel like pico has gotten underrated. Yeah, that's kind of fun. We gave you something.

All right, there you go. Go make that bullshit. You got some inspiration, Reed. Good luck with a comedy club. The comic club closes down because the fucking hot dog sucks. If you have a question to comment about the world chain restaurants, you know me us at Feedbag at birdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail 830.0. That's 8304-36844.

Our producers, Emilia-Marino. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman, kinshipgoods.com slash doughboys for merch. And Emma, we of course have some live shows coming up at the end of this month. Yes. At the end of this month, we're going to be in, Raleigh and Charlotte, North Carolina, and then two shows in Atlanta, the 27th, 28th, and 29th of May. The early show in Atlanta is sold out, but there are tickets for the late shows, so people jump on that one.

And the North Carolina is wide open. You can get tickets for both of them. Gillesier, one of the funniest people around. Oh, thank you so much for having me guys. Such a delight. Overdue. Please come back. Kevin is on Amazon Prime.

Again, please plug the show and anything else you want to promote. That's it. These guys are on it and watch it. It's fun. Yeah. It's so funny. And I mean, John Waters, like you're saying? Yes, John Waters.

I will also say that, yeah, me and Tony, me and Anthony Atamanick's podcast in June is coming out. Oh, yeah. Look for that. Right. Yes. It's called Good Science. Yes. And he plays RFK and I play a stand-up, you know, one of these Manosphere stand-up comedians.

So if you're into making fun of those people, then please. check it out. Look for that in June. Yeah. When Joe said it was coming back and he was like, also, there's Whoopi Goldberg and John, I was like, oh, this is such an insane cast. I remember being like in a Zoom room and it was just me and John Waters. And I was like, this is like such a legendary person. And he and Whoopi Goldberg and Amy Sedaris are so funny in the show. It's just such a, and Gil is so, so, like in life is so funny in the show. Thank you. Thank you. So rad. Yes.

Jemmy is either fallen asleep or is cooked alive. I can't tell. She's a little big potato. Hey, that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. Until next time, this spoon man, Mac Mitchell. I'm Tiger Wier. Happy eating. See ya. Hi, I am Mandy Moore. Sterling K. Brown.

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