Doughboys - Checkers and Rally's 2 with Tom Scharpling

Episode Date: August 5, 2021

Tom Scharpling (The Best Show) joins to discuss drive-thru burger chain Checkers and Rally's, to explain the challenges of dining out while pescatarian, and to discuss his new book It Never Ends: A Memoir with Nice Memories! Plus, Quincy Chamber of Commerce representative John Quigley Adams stops by to discuss the local economy.Sources for this week's intro:https://www.risingsunmd.org/department/division.php?structureid=51https://checkersfranchising.com/frequently-asked-questions/https://www.eatthis.com/east-vs-west-coast-food-brands/https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/i3no70/checkers_vs_rallys_locations_in_the_united_states/Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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When Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon surveyed a colonial border in 1763 to resolve a dispute created by conflicting land grants from two kings of England, it's impossible the frontiersmen could have gleaned its ultimate significance, and it's unlikely they would have thought their names might endure two and a half centuries later. But the Mason-Dixon line that separates Pennsylvania and Delaware above from Maryland, Virginia, and West Virginia below demarcates perhaps the biggest political and cultural divide in the U.S., the border between North and South. But another factor also cleaves the nation, instead between East and West, capitalism,

often due to regional brands being absorbed by national ones. As such, identical or near-identical products will use different names to tread on a nostalgic connection while sharing corporate leadership and distribution chains. Dual-horned-up burger brands Carl's Jr. and Hardy split their names roughly at the border of the Rocky Mountains. The same goes for two popular creamy white substances, ice cream brands Dreyer's Nettys and Manet's brands Best Foods and Hellman's. But a more ad-hoc approach seems to govern the locational distribution of dual fast food

burger brands with 900 restaurants, one founded in Louisville, Kentucky in 1985, the second founded in Mobile, Alabama in 1986, and the two formally merged in 1999. Original plans called for the brand named for motorsports to rule the Midwest and the brand named for the board game to have the Southeast as its domain, but those were scrambled over time as the parent company expanded to the coasts. A map posted on the non-pornographic subreddit Rmap porn shows the chaotic distribution in place today, including a dozen states that have both brands. As for why, two versions of the Big Buford and seasoned fries purveyor persist in the

first place? Perhaps it's due to corporate history. Rallys was purchased by a larger chain in 1996 before being sold back to checkers in 1999. That chain, Carl's Junior Hardys. This week on Doughboys, we return to Checkers and Rallys. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, MartinScoreSneezy, the Spoonman Mike Mitchell.

No, no, no, I know. The Spoonman Mike Mitchell. This is from Kyle Bakke, who writes, I thought this would be appropriate for Mitch's sneezing bit. He had on the Coke Freestyle app with Chris Getherd and Goodfellas as Mitch's favorite movie. Love you guys. You sneezed him a storm.

I sneezed twice. Apparently now you're MartinScoreSneezy. This is now one of your defining attributes. You're a sneezer. I'm not a sneezer? I think you would be. I think that's the dwarf you would be. No, no, no it is not.

I would be... Who do you think you were? You think you'd be Doc? You're not Doc. I would... Yeah, I'm not Doc. You chose the other one. I'm not.

I'm sleepy, dopey. Is there a hungry one? I don't know. I don't know if there's a hungry. It feels like there's going to be a gluttonous dwarf. Cummy? There is a cummy. That's one that they kind of hide that dwarf in the Disney vault along with Song of the

South. RoseSpoonMan at gmail.com. Mitch, this past Sunday. Snow White gets in this Cummys bed and she's like, well, fuck, the sheets are fucking hard as rocks. Mitch, this past Sunday was pro wrestling gorilla PWG, which we both went to. This is a live wrestling event in LA, the best wrestling live wrestling you can see out here.

It's fantastic. And we met a listener as we often do. There are people who go to the shows who also listen to the podcast, oddly the demographic for wrestling nerds and dorks who listen to Doughboys, that Venn diagram overlaps. This plays into today's episode, by the way, because I went to our restaurant after this show that we were after. After I contracted Delta variant at this show that we went to, I went to the restaurant. Yes.

I go on with your story. I know what you're going to say. We contracted and spread Delta variant and it was worth it. It was a great show. Who's better than Bandido? Super Dragon came back. We're getting deep into Alistair Black was there. It was great.

But why is that? And it was, you know, I couldn't really taste my rallies or smell it afterwards, but it was still worth it. So I met a listener named Matt and a lovely man. And he was talking about this show. But he told me this. He said the hardest he ever laughed at Doughboys when he was listening to an episode while driving.

And we made a joke about one of our dads come tasting like bee honey. And I went up to you afterwards and it was like, do you remember this? And both of us are like, what, no, what happened? What did we riff this out? I don't remember it at all. I mean, I believe that we could have said that are, you know, like I could have made a joke like that at some point that maybe I accidentally ate my dad's come tastes like bee honey.

I guess that that's, I mean, it's, I'm saying there's a possibility that it could happen on the show. I also have a theory that this guy had a dream about listening to Doughboys. And that's what he's remembering. But if you have, if you, you hear that, that, that thing that Matt recalled and it clicks with you and you know what episode it's from, if you can find that clip and turn it into a drop and send it in, we will of course play it on the show. So the hunt is on scavengers.

Um, no, let's not play it again. I'd rather not. I don't want to, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't like hearing that it existed in the first place. All right. Here we go. This is embarrassing, embarrassing in front of the guest I feel like, but speaking of drops.

How to hoe to Spoon Nation. No. All right. Here we go. Here's a little, here's a little drop. Mitch is speaking on mama mama speaking on Mitch as Wigard microwaves. He's selling on a dish. Wow.

Maybe today they don't talk about the dicks. Oh yeah. It's the Doughboys show. It's the Doughboys show. Come joke sold separately. Wow. We were talking, we were, it was, it was come heavy up top. So, um,

Yeah. You think he was referencing that B honey joke? Um, hey Doughboys Kenny here from summerville, slumberville. If you ever made a Doughboy sitcom, maybe this could be the theme song. Thanks for all the laughs during this crazy year. Also, if you like this music, my friend will and I make comedy songs under the band name Kill Jay. You can check it out on Spotify.

Best Kenny Gray. Wow. Good job. Good job. Check that out. Good job, Kenny. Check that out. Check, uh, and uh, Spoon Man drops a Gmail account if you want to submit a drop, including

the one that Matt remembered. If you can find it. If you can find the honey one. Yeah. Well, it's a dirty star guest. It's already been too long. It's been too long with us just talking and been, we already long overdue. Both in terms of this episode's runtime and duration since the podcast began.

We have one of the greats with us. Yes. And also in many ways, he refers to us as the hamburger men. I've heard this. And, and we're just going to say this to you today, to our guests today. We want, we want you to stop. We're pissed. I'll knock it off.

Look, I'll stop. We have a cease and desist order. We are presenting with our guest who hosts the best show with Tom Sharpling, his new book. It never ends a memoir with nice memories available now. Tom Sharpling. Hi, Tom. Hey, how are you?

Good. Thank you for being here. Well, thanks for having me now. Thanks for having me. And I'll look the hamburger men thing is just, it's like peacocking or whatever mystery you do when he was trying to figure out ways to charm others. You gotta. Oh, no, I was nagging you.

I was nagging you is what I was doing. Right. The old Pua, the old Pua guide of a, I remember when I was, I worked as a CBS page, which I've said a million times, but there was a guy who like tried to tell me to read like the pickup artist books. He was like, these will be good for you. He was a big pickup pickup artist guy. And I never, I never did.

I never read them. I never got into them. But, but, but, but nagging is, is it, it worked. It worked on me because I, I liked it. I liked, I liked hamburger men. I enjoyed it. Sure. And look, I'm here now.

It worked for me. It's like it was the longest, the longest game imaginable to be four and a half years. Here I am. I will say I'm not going to tip anything, but you've got your revenge. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We certainly, yes we did. This recipe, we're discussing an interesting chain today.

We're discussing checkers at rallies, which we will get to in a bit, but, but I want to start here, Tom. You are from New Jersey. Is that correct? Big food state. That is correct. Big food state. Big food state.

Love it. Do you have any favorites that make you think a home? Sure. The, the, I always like the pizza pies are always great, and you can throw a raw and hit a place that's kind of better than anywhere else. There's, there's a big movement to say that like, like Jersey has the best. I was, I was just online recently and reading people tweeting something like tweeting about this word Jersey is overlooked in the, in the, in the pizza

wars because it's Connecticut and then New York are the two big ones that people always talk about. And then people in Jersey are like, we have, we have the best pizza in the world and no one, and no one gives us the credit. Yeah. Yeah. I know there's a lot of people who, who think that when you say New York pizza you're talking about the tri-state area basically, but I think there are slight

variants. And I, I like New Jersey has tomato pie in a lot of places lower in the state where it's just very simple and very pure kind of pizza. And it's just, it's not encumbered by toppings. Right. So that I, I miss a little bit and then I miss a lot. I miss Wawa is what I miss. Wawa.

Yeah. Everyone loves Wawa. The greats. We had it, we had it when we were in Philadelphia and I will say I got some, some delightful sandwiches from that spot. And I also just like the idea of a convenience store that has like fresh made sandwiches. Like that's like a fun concept.

Yeah. With the touch screen and you go and you just press the buttons. You don't even have to talk to the people. You just say, they say a number and then you hand them a piece of paper and beginning and end of the exchange. Wow. I feel like I've always been a 7-Eleven defender and then you just realize how much 7-Eleven sucks comparatively.

Like, sure. I was in 7-Eleven last night to, to, to pick up some, some for double and tip it out there. Maybe, maybe we'll, maybe we'll bleep that out. But I, but it was that sort of thing of like, oh man with Wawa at like one in the morning, you can just get like a good buffalo chicken sub if you want it. And it's fresh made and it's fresh and 7-Eleven just fucking, it sucks. What can you, what?

Like, like when I was young and, and, and when I was young and drunk, like literally like 16 years old, I'd go in and get like a, a bakery stick at like a, like one of the rollers at 7-Eleven and I'd eat that stuff and I, and I liked it then, but all that shit is just, it's just sits there for so long. It's 7-Eleven is truly awful. Yeah. It's a dice roll. If like that, the go-go to keto or the wings or the pizza has, has maybe been

fresh made within the past couple of hours, but a lot of times it'll be something that's sitting there all day. And it's not at all the same thing. And, and also, also say, even compared to the actual sub chains, like, like a Wawa, a convenience store aspect aside, a Wawa just destroys like a subway. Like it's just, it's so much better. It's a totally different tier. Yeah.

It's not even close. It's, it's just, the stuff is good and it's fresh. It's not like 7-Eleven or you get a watch of the truck pull up. You ever see one of the, like two in the morning, the truck and they're just like wheeling all the things in and then it's just like, but that's not good enough. The truck's there. That stuff's going to sit for a while. They don't roll it out onto the floor.

They put it in the back, like the donuts and things. Yes. I'm sadly always there when the truck pulls up. I mean, like me and the truck, I'm always at 7-Eleven with the truck. Like I feel like I know the truck. You're tailing that thing, right? Yeah. Or that skid off the back.

You think it's some sort of fast five situation wise where I'm trying to get all the fucking Takedos off the truck? I will say that the depressing site for me these days and Mitch, that you must have a take on this is seeing that at Dunkin Donuts now where that used to be a thing of like. I'm going to take on everything. You're kind of the take meister. That's kind of your thing. I am the take meister.

Some people serve hot cakes. You serve hot takes. I'm the take meister. Making takes. Sir takes a lot. Johnny takes. Those likes. Johnny takes.

To fit it, to make it more regional for you. Great character, short lived. And you know, good that he didn't end up with Vito. Johnny takes. Vito wasn't right for him. Vito wasn't happy there. That's the whole thing. Like he had the rural life he couldn't adapt to.

Yeah. Rather die a gangster than live as a nobody. You know what? Maybe the only good show. Sopranos? Yeah. Maybe there's never been another good show. Maybe that's it.

Maybe that's the only one that's good. I mean, that's set in the bar pretty high. If you're saying you're not reaching those heights, you aren't even worthy of being viewed but hey, I like it. Am I the fucking take meister or what? I was trying to give a big take. You are. And you know what?

I'm with you on this Dunkin' Donuts shit. Pulling up. There's no more Fred. There's no more time to make the donuts. Fred is, you don't need Fred anymore. It's a big fucking truck that pulls up with all this shit. It sucks. Yeah.

It's a bummer. When you see those donuts peeking around the corner in the back when you can like look through the thing and you see the trays of them that are not yet out on the shelves. Isn't that the most tantalizingly frustrating thing you've ever seen? Oh, those are the good donuts back there. Wheel them out. Yeah. They're just these old donuts that you have to choose instead that you can just tell are

hours old that are on display. Empty slots everywhere. None of this. None of that because they don't want to, they don't want to break the good stuff out until they unload a few more. It's, it's fucking Dunkin' Donuts is, it makes me sad wise because that is like a, obviously started in Quincy a chain close to my heart, but just fucking, it's like, it's, you know what it's like?

It's like the 7-Eleven Donuts. Is a 7-Eleven Donut as good as a fucking Dunkin' Donut donut now? I wouldn't go that far. But it's definitely like, it's the same sort of thing. It's something that's not, it's like, it's like buying an Entenmann's. You know, it's something that was made at a regional distribution center and then regional bakery and then distributed. Look, and I still love them and I'll, and I'll defend them with my life still, but.

I like their breakfast sandwiches. I'll have all of a Dunkin' breakfast sandwich. Fred's rollin' over in his grave. Yeah. R.I.P. Sharpling, I wanted to ask you beyond Jersey eats. Like, are you someone who likes fast food? Are you somebody who likes chain restaurants and do you have any favorites?

Oh yeah. Well, for me, McDonald's is still the fish, the fish filet. Look, I don't, I don't eat meat. I eat fish and so the McDonald's fish filet is still the simple top of the pyramid for me. Wow. It's clean. It's, I'll say this and this is, we'll get into this more.

It's not wet. Mmm. Oh boy. I, so are you, are you a, well, I got two questions for you. One, do you like Jersey Mike's? It's got, it's got your state's name in the title. Great question. Do you think that, because you know what?

Yeah. Why? Cause I told you this when me, you and Gabris were, were texting about Italian subs and I was saying, besides like there's, there's obviously good places in LA where you can get some good to tell. That is funny that the three of us were texting about Italian subs. So on brand three fat fucks. Talk about sandwiches we like.

Like if somebody made fun of you saying that that's what you guys do, your feelings would be hurt, but you're actually doing. It's true. That's true. I, I, I said, I said to Gabris that, and I said to you guys, I said, mm-hmm Jersey Mike's Italian sub is fucking, is really fantastic. It's a, it's a, it's, it's a good sub. It's, it's, it's surprisingly for, for chain rice.

I mean, just blows subway out of the water, but are you, are you a fan? Have you tried it? Are you a fan? You don't eat meat. So. I like, I like, I'll get a tuna sub at Jersey Mike's. Sure. Yeah.

I like, yeah, I like it. It's just, you can control. Look, they also like to make sure your sandwich is on the wet side of things, but I'm kind of okay with you. You can control it. At least you have say in, in the, the level of oil and vinegar on it. Yes. Yeah.

I do like to go Mike's way, but, but you can cuss like, especially the app, the app is great there. Like you can really, you can really customize things on a pretty granular level. Shit. I might get Jersey Mike's today. And now I, now I want it, but, but it's funny that we mentioned subway because I actually think that the tuna sub is the best thing you can get it. It's one of the best things you can get at subway.

Yeah. But subway is, is, is awful comparatively. We were separately texting. We had another group text about sandwiches with Evan Susser and, and he was talking about how he got subway and it was like, like his sandwich was like $11. I thought you were joking at first. This is true. Yeah.

Yeah. 11 bucks for a subway sandwich where a place that like no one wants to eat right now. And he was like, it's just completely falling out of favor. Yeah. Brutal. I wish they'd bring back Jared. That's my issue. I want Jared back.

We got to break him out. Right. We got to get him out. We got to break Jared out. We need him out. And then we break him out. There was just like, wait a minute. What was this guy in for again?

Oh man. Oh, I think we made a huge mistake. Yeah. This was not an injustice. We rectified this. Exactly. Good God. Yeah.

Jared, we're breaking you. We're breaking you back in. We're breaking you back in. That's tougher because he doesn't cooperate. He's not going to cooperate with that. No. Yeah. And you know what?

We're going to stay in here too for what we did. Yes. We'll stay for a while. Yeah. Tom, I want to ask you, are you, since you're a fish, you're a fan of the fish sandwich, the Filet-O-Fish, and not the McFish, huh? Always interesting that it's not a McFish. Trump apparently called it the fish delight.

That's what he thinks the Filet-O-Fish is called is the fish delight. That's the worst thing he's ever done. Yeah. But conversely, I will say this, and I've said it before, I'll say it until the day I die, the best thing Donald Trump ever did, and he had this figured out, is when he had those kids win the NCAA championship, he's just like, yeah, well, they want to eat chicken cordon blue, or they want piles of fast food. Yeah.

Honestly, yeah. That was the, when people were online, when people were like, can you believe this? I was like, no, this is the only good thing. This is good. That was the only good thing he did. You can tell when a slate columnist was like, this is a classless act from our clown president. It's just like, well, all right, now you're, this is more just sort of telling on yourself here.

And I'm just like, yeah, I agree. And then I see the pyramid of Filet-O-Fish sandwiches. I'm just kind of like, well, that would be pretty cool. Yeah, it would be great. Just grab whatever I want from a pile like that. So you're a fan of the fish sandwich. Are you a fish and chips fan? Are you, for me, growing up, New England, fish and chips, especially when I was younger

and didn't want to, my mom would have baked attic, or they were having fish, or even fish, or whatever. And I would, I would, I would, when we went to the, you know, wherever we were getting fish, fish from, I would go, I would go with the, with fish and chips. I was a big fish and chips fan. And are you a. I love it so much. Yeah.

Sorry. I mean, to keep cutting you off. I'm so excited about talking about fish and chips. No, please. Arthur Treachers. Did you ever go to Arthur Treachers? Oh, yes. I know, I know Arthur Treachers.

Yes. I have not gone to Arthur. I'm questioning, I know of it, but I'm questioning whether I've ever even been to Arthur Treachers. As a kid, Arthur Treachers was, there was everywhere in New Jersey was the Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips chain. And the funny thing is Arthur Treacher was Merv Griffin's sidekick on his talk, on his early talk show. So it's kind of like.

It's kind of like Hank, Hank's revolving restaurant on Larry Sanders. Right. Kind of loosely based on Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips. Wow. That's crazy. I love that. Yeah. That's, that's, that's great.

I, there was, there were not a lot of, we got fish from Burke Seafood in, in Quincy, which is great. A great place. Still, still around family owned and Berks was, was great. And they made a, they made a fish and chips there. And so I'd get fish and chips there often. And it would come with like fries and onion rings mix. And then the, and then like a lot of the ice cream stands had like the, like dairy freeze

had, which is like a dairy, like a local dairy queen. And there's only one of them, but, but they had like, they'd have, they'd serve fish and chips too. And fucking fantastic. I was, I'm a, I'm a vinegar guy. I like fish and chips and vinegar. That's, that's how I do it. Oh my God.

Yes. Like tartar sauce or you vinegar? No, it was kind of a thing where it would make me feel slightly mature to be kind of like, I'm going to put vinegar on my fish and chips, not go with tartar sauce or even lowly ketchup or whatever the cocktail sauce was. It was kind of like, I'm going to go for something a little more subtle. Sadly, I probably did, I probably did eat fish and chips with ketchup when I was younger for a long stretch, like dipping the fish in ketchup, which now it sounds fucking nasty,

but back in, back in the day, in LA, H salt is the, is the big one wise, which we haven't done on the show. We have it. Which there's still something that exists, but H, H salt fish and chips. I used to go, there was a kid and I, the novelty of you would get it in. I think it was H salt. It might have been a different place, but I remember like getting your fish and chips in newspaper.

I thought was like, this is amazing. I can't believe they're serving it like this. Yeah. That's a very British. Until you got a glimpse of what was on the fucking paper. Like headlines from like 1987. Oh my God. A challenger disaster.

This is horrible. Um, I, I like, I really came around to malt vinegar and that was actually thing my mom liked. I did malt vinegar and I tried it. I remember in being like, Oh wait, this is actually delightful. I thought I needed that sweeter tartar sauce, but yeah, give me that malt vinegar. Honestly, give me a little of both. I live in both worlds.

Yeah, I do too. Dip some in malt, malt vinegar, dip some in tartar sauce, maybe mix them. You know what? I'm just going to say, fuck the British. I just want to say that for a minute. Wow. Finally, you're saying it. I'm still steamed about the revolutionary war.

Oh boy. Yeah. Mitch with this old axe to grind. Those fucking red coat swags, they fucking pulled some shit. You ever seen the Patriot? I did watch the Patriot. Yeah. Yeah.

With that, with the heroic Mel Gibson. It was, it's a, it's interesting to hear the takemeister just like come, just coming out blazing. Yeah. You're just, you're just spraying the takes like a gatling gun. Go after the British. Fuck the British. We already know you don't like Italians.

I don't like Italians. I don't like the British. Is any part of, of Europe safe? Uh, hmm. No. Oh wow. Okay. Okay.

The Irish are safe. You know what? Fuck the Irish too. There it is. Aren't you a hundred percent Irish? I am a hundred percent Irish, but they always hate American. They hate American Irish. They hate American Irish folk.

Got it. The thing with the Brits is so many British people think, I talked to some British people and they're always like, oh, the States. And I'm like, you're fucking country sucks shit too. You're the worst. You're, you're the, you're the worst of all. You're the worst of all people. Boris Johnson just a fucking dipshit stuff.

This, this, this, this finishing school fancy lad who's like fucking LARPing as a, as a man of the people with his disheveled hair. And historically no one, no one more evil than the fucking British empire. Fuck you all. True. Yeah. And the other thing is this thing with the TV, the fancy TV. It's like, you add up all the actual great shows.

It was at 20 hours of television. Yeah. Like, oh, Monty Python, the office, Alan Partridge. And you start adding, you start getting the thing. It's just like, you ever watch bad British TVs? The worst TV on the planet. It's like a dude with, I worked on a, I worked on a British special and they'd be like, like, like, here is a, this, this is a popular, this is a popular bit airing on the telly.

And they'd show like some British bit of comedy. And it'd be some like fucking dude, you know, like with big fake teeth and a big, like floofy wig going like, foo, foo, foo, foo, foo, foo, foo, foo, foo. And then everyone's like, all these British people are like laughing at this. Like this is like the height of their culture. Like, like, oh, this is so, like, you forget that there's this low bow, low brow strain of British comedy that's kind of like, you know, that you don't really see in the U.S. They only send over the, the, the high brow stuff.

To be fair, I was, I was laughing at that bit. Except go ahead. It was funny. I agree. I was kind of wanting to know what show that was. But then they're like, oh, well, you got a Sanford and son actually started off as Steptoe and son in England. And then you see some of Steptoe and son and you're like, this is terrible.

America improved it so much by putting Red Fox in there. Yeah. By having seasons longer than four episodes. Yeah. We'll be back in three years with four new episodes. Hang tight. Got four new ones, but one will come out on Christmas for some reason. It's like, and that's also weird that they watch so much TV on Christmas where it's

just like, oh, the Christmas episode of Dr. Who. It's like, don't you guys like open presents and stuff? Or hang out with your family? Like keep quiet. Dr. Who is on now. And they have, and they also, don't they just have a few channels too? Aren't they very proud of that? Like BBC two and one.

Like there's only like, there's literally a channel named channel four. Yeah. That's shit. You know what I was watching the other day? MTV classic. A whole channel just dedicated to an old channel. There you go. Eat shit, Britain.

Piece of shit. Love it. Sharply, I did want to ask you before we get into the chain about you said you, I know you just eat fish. You don't eat, you don't eat meat, you don't eat anything from the land or the sky. I mean, I don't just eat fish. I eat vegetables and things too. I just like among animal, among animal proteins, you eat fish only.

Do you have like, how long is that thing? I see your notes here and you're saying only eats fish, no vegetables, nothing else. Yeah. Shut up. Shut up. You're, you got that one. You're a research team got that one wrong. I do eat vegetables.

Not, not hot salads though, but cold salads. Love a cold salad. Are you, are you, are you, are you fan of like a scallops and, and, and other. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. I love all of it. All seafood.

Yeah. I, I, I'm sure there's something I don't love, but yeah, on the whole, I'm good with seafood. Yeah. You were asking if, if, how long has this been going on? It's, it's about 25 years, I think. Oh, wow. That long.

Yeah. That's impressive. Yeah. I just stopped eating meat this year. No meat, shall I eat in the calendar year 2021 and I'm, I'm excluding fish. I'm not having any fish either. But I, I think when I, I think in the next year, I might go back to eating some fish because it's just the, the variety of proteins gets pretty stale and that feels like the,

the, the, you know, there's all sorts of problems with, with, with farmed salmon and, and, and, you know, a long line trawling and like, I know there's, there's all sorts of shit that like really disrupts the ocean with seafood harvesting, but I do feel like it's, it's the more ethical animal protein that I, that, you know, someone could consume. And also it's just fucking good. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's not great in certain ways, obviously. And I've gone without fish for, for good stretches, solid stretches.

But honestly, it kept, I kept getting brought back into it out. So much of it was out of convenience and inability to find anything on a menu sometimes. If I wasn't up for eating fish. Yeah. Yeah. How many sides can I get? Like I'd be at a diner and just be like, I get a side of mashed potatoes and a side of green beans and a side, and I'm just eating like out of little bowls, just all over the

table. That's, that's, that was, so we were supposed to record this episode last week, but I had a stomach flu. By the way, why is I was just going to say that like a Tom's 21 years of doing this, it just makes your, your, you know, one year of doing this bullshit just seemed kind of pathetic by comparison. I just wanted to say. I mean, it's just, just kind of really lame.

Like your thing is just kind of lame wags, but, but I was, I was, I was, I was sick with a stomach type flu. It wasn't COVID. I got tested three times. I didn't have COVID and we were supposed to do this episode before, but I literally couldn't eat wags. I was texting you and saying that there was a chance that I couldn't do the pod anymore. I was, I was, I was nervous there for a couple of this.

I mean, we shouldn't do it anyways, but it was a situation where I couldn't eat any food. I was a, I was eating a English muffins. I was wags. I got toast. I buttered toast. I was buttering my toast on both sides. Wait, wait a minute. You said English muffins.

Something doesn't add up here. Sorry. I bought the, I bought the non English muffin. I bought, I bought a America freedom muffins. That's better. That's better. We'll be back with more dough boys. You know, Mitch, you're about to take a little trip abroad.

You're going to Costa Rica. That's right. Wags. I'm going to Costa Rica with the family. It's going to be a lot of fun. Gonna maybe see a monkey. Oh, that's fun. Gonna maybe see a bird.

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like Carl's Jr. and Hardy's. As I mentioned in the intro, part of the reason the two brands endured is because Carl's Jr. slash Hardy's bought Rallies in 1996 and then sold it back to Checkers in 1999. So that's where the two companies merged. Rallies was founded in 1985 in Louisville

and Checkers was founded in 1986 in Mobile. Same menu, different branding, first reviewed back in 2018 with our friend Neil Poncellon. Mitch, you were talking about... You were a mid-antidote and we took a break. Can you continue your anecdote? I couldn't eat anything

for a full week. Because of your stomach bug? Because of my stomach bug. So I was having some freedom muffins like I was saying. That was it. The American version of English muffins and toast.

I was doing bananas and toast. And I buttered both sides of my toast. Just because I was so bored. Yes. And I wanted... I just wanted to eat butter. And I wanted more butter.

I buttered toast from both sides. Now that's what I was singing as I was doing. It's a little Joni. A little Joni Mitchell wigs. Okay. You didn't like it? No, I just don't know the source. Oh Jesus.

Hold on. You don't know Joni Mitchell? I know who Joni Mitchell is but I don't know her... Music out at some point. It's good stuff. Yeah, hold on. I'm like Google Joni Mitchell right now. Keep talking, Mitchell. You're going to accidentally Google Mike Mitchell.

But I just... For a full week I was like... I don't know how... I was just so bored eating that same shit over and over again. English muffins. That was it. That was basically all I could eat. Yes.

I don't... I don't know how I could ever live on a plain diet. I know obviously like... And I wasn't... I couldn't really eat salads or anything like that. And that's the way that maybe you liven up with some veggies and stuff. But I just... I was so fucking bored

eating that stuff over and over again. And just a plain diet like that. That I feel for you. Tom, I feel for you not... Going to diner and ordering stuff like that. That's like any time I've been on a strict diet or something like that. It just feels fucking impossible.

The world just doesn't cater to that shit. Los Angeles is one of the few places that you can do it. Right. They're parts of the country where you're kind of out of luck. And I will say that what Tom was talking about having a bunch of different sides to the Hawthorne location.

And I kind of just had to... There really aren't any veggie-friendly mains available. But there is a fish sandwich. And Tom, your requirements for doing the show as far as the chain would be concerned is you just wanted to have any place with a fish sandwich.

And we pitched checkers and rallies at you. It sounds like the sandwich may be disappointed. Yeah, this was different than I remember checkers being. Because there were checkers all over New Jersey. And it was kind of like a decent enough

fill-in-the-gap place to hit. I would often hit checkers on my way to do the best show on a Tuesday night if I was running late and couldn't eat properly. I would get checkers and eat while driving.

And I remember the fish sandwich being perfectly fine. But I don't know what's gone on since then. Or maybe this is the way that was a checkers. This was a rallies I went to. A rallies

in Baldwin Park I went to. And that was, first of all, I was a hoot being in Baldwin Park. What a great town that is. It and I went late at night

around 9.30 and got the fish sandwich, the crispy fish. I got there was like a two sandwich deal on the crispy fish sandwich and then it was a combo with fries

and then I figured it's like let's get a dessert also and then they're like we don't have any desserts tonight. So I got a soda fries and two of these fish sandwiches and

Well, Tom, I was going to ask you there is a version of this sandwich where there's two fish patties. There's the crispy fish sandwich and the deep sea double. The deep sea double is what I got. Two of those, I thought I was ordering

this is how it went. Yes. And look, if I if I seem confused on this at all because of the damage that this food did to my memory at this point, I think I think it's actually has neurological consequences. It was, yes, it was two of the because there were four patties

all through that was and I think maybe because look, I only ate one of the sandwiches to tell you the truth. I threw the other one out the window of the car so somewhere on the 10

is a is an uneaten deep sea double that because there's that thing that I will do where something is so gross that I still will just be kind of like I got it just this couldn't have been as gross as I said it was right.

And I like I eat take another bite of them like, oh, that's disgusting and it sits for like 90 seconds. I'm just kind of like I don't know, was it really that bad and it's like take a bite. Yeah, it was worse than even then I thought but yeah,

I so I ate way more than I wanted to I'm looking at their menu now this sandwich everything that could be wrong with it was wrong with it. It was super wet. The lettuce was disgusting and wilted

and the cheese was like really like dominant in it where it was like it kind of like where you taste the process cheese part of it like it feels like cheese on like on a filet of fish the cheese is like

for texture more than anything you're not just you're not tasting that cheese this thing I tasted like this cheap cheddar cheese just the low grade cheese and it was so strong

was so gross I truly I had a stomach ache for a day and a half after this oh god it was like bad news and the fries well, here's the thing the fries

the fries at this place are the main attraction like they're very proud of their fries they're seasoned fries I gotta say the crazy thing about this is that I got the fish sandwich I didn't do I didn't do the deep sea double I did the

crispy fish sandwich and Tom it was my favorite thing at rallies well not I shouldn't say that I shouldn't say it was my favorite thing because there is something that I liked more and I'll talk about that a little later it was but it was

of all the hot food items I got it was maybe my bite of the night it was mine was crispy the fish patty was crispy and it was the only thing that was really working for me

I did it there's the deep sea double and then there's a spicy chicken sandwich like double I'm gonna find out what it's exactly what it's called let's see here it's the spicy chicken double so easy enough I could have guessed that but it's a similar thing where it's

two spicy chicken patties and then there's a piece of cheese in between and it was the same thing where the cheese was extremely overwhelming but also probably one of the better things I had like you were saying you could just

taste the lettuce and the bun all of it had strong flavors there's such a strong flavor coming off this stuff that doesn't seem right the spicy chicken double is probably one of the besides the fish sandwich

one of the two things I had that was like I ordered quite a bit none of it none of it was great and some of it was downright bad should I go on with what I got and that cheese though just the cheese I'm not wrong on the cheese right the cheese is so

it's so strong and honestly for the spicy chicken Mcdouble at first I was kind of like oh I like it and then I got to like a portion of it where it was just like a lot of cheese melted in the middle and it was just it was fucking it was too much

I didn't fit I didn't finish almost I don't think I finished any sandwich I got but here's the crazy thing to me I got a bacon Zilla why last time I was there I got I got I got the big Buford so I went with a bacon Zilla which is

and so here's here's the description on it bacon Zilla which is a registered trademark warning which is also just Godzilla but bacon how was that a registered whatever how was how did they get bacon Zilla anyway making a movie out of it or anything

without the action apparently warning Godzilla versus bacon Zilla he takes a bite of it and just goes home that's all that that's the one that happens with the battle warning there will be bacon take

on these too large hand seasoned 100 percent beef hamburger patties piled high with four slices of crispy bacon two slices of American cheese melted cheddar cheese ketchup and mayonnaise all served on a toasted bakery style bun

so I take this is the one I was excited for because I was like man all this shit sucks but but maybe this will maybe this will be like the burger how can how can the burger be bad right like a burger is going to be good right a bacon burger

it's going to be good it fucking sucked it was that it was the saltiest it was just such a salty salt bomb it was so salty and then like just like it was it was hard to just eat it and then biting into it the meat quality tasted like I don't know if you remember

when you were a kid and and you were like oh man like the elementary school cafeteria is serving burgers and you're like oh man exciting we're going to get burgers and then eating a school lunch burger and be like what is like what is this taste it was the same exact taste as a school lunch burger

where the meat was just like prison quality meat and it just it was just like it tasted it tasted just like if you went to an elementary school and got a hamburger patty from there it was the same quality of like kind of like wet fucking

full hamburger me it's it fucking I was not a hamburger man that day I did not I was not I was not interested in I fucking that was like the savior to me was this burger and it was a thing that I liked the least it was it was fucking awful

that wet kind of like ecosystem of the burger bag in school when they would put like the hamburger day the burgers would be in like a sleeve like a foil foil type sleeve and it was like it really was like

a bio dome inside that thing 100% precipitation goes up rains on the burger and then you're eating this like soaking wet and dry hamburger somehow yes

often like they would be very it was a similar thing with like school lunch burgers you know you'd eat them and you'd be like fuck it's like fucking hot which is a lot of the time like you feel like something hot is like good quality but you're like you're eating this bad hot thing you're like oh it like the meat doesn't taste good but it is like it is

hot it's at the right temperature and that was the same thing with the bacon zilla where I was like this is this is like nice and piping hot it's like a hot burger but the beef tastes just it just tasted fucking awful also like 7-11 like a 7-11 burger it was like a similar a similar

similar meat quality just yes it's because they're school lunch things you have nostalgia for like for me it's like we like my school had a chicken fried steak that that the kids all loved and then also like a french bread pizza like those are things and you would think a burger would be a thing like for kids chicken patty was

it for us the chicken patty was big big big deal right yeah you think a burger would be a crowd pleaser as well but something about it it's just like those those are always I just remember having no condiments they were all it was always just like a just like a slab of meat a disc of meat on a dry bun

and that was the burger and if you're getting any moisture at all it was just the grease of the burger itself I mean for any kid to make a burger not fun is like that's like a tough job to be like like I have a kid be like burgers like I don't like the burger and that's the same thing for me

I always like burgers I'm not going to dislike a burger and the bacon zilla was so bad and I think it's got to be meat quality but Tom what you were saying to just like the little the little the little ecosystem the little biodome within this within the packaging where like

the bun gets wet and then it just kind of tastes wet and the meat kind of still tastes wet even though like I'm not even sure if the meat is grilled there and I'll say this I went I went after this wrestling show that wise the PWG show that wise and I went to

and I and so I ordered I got I drove out to God where was it it was in like West Covina I drove out after the wrestling show wise I drove all the way out to to that rallies and it was 1045 and they closed it midnight

and so I felt I felt bad and so I so I ordered and I gave the guy at the window and I don't think it was in Baldwin Park that's where I drove out to wise that's where I was the same one Tom went to oh you went to the same one maybe this is a bad location so no hold on no same one

when you pull out of the drive through you almost get hit by you're like oh like yes like the like it was the weirdest drive through exit everywhere you pay and then four feet later is the road yes it was

the you are right yeah you go you're right on there and kind of like it's Baldwin Park and people like either don't want to be there or they're like driving fast to get out of Baldwin Park or they're just you know they're they're in a hurry to get home like it was a busy street right there but I

but I it was 1045 there wasn't a lot of traffic for me at that time but I just remember like thought I pulled over into like a parking lot to eat it by myself and it was just a very sad my photos are all in my car just eating rallies in my car and I felt bad for the kid who did it and the kid was great

the kid who the kid who the kid who served me there and the reason I went to Baldwin Park is because I've been to other rallies in LA and the idea of going to like an LA of rallies deep in LA just felt like the grossest thing on earth to me there's like one near the

LAX the the there's there's a rallies near LAX and I've had it before and it just fucking sucks and like the I like in my mind I'm like there's just like cockroaches and bugs in there I can't so that's why I drove out to the Baldwin Park one I don't think it is I don't

think it's a situation where it's a just a bad one why is I think it I think rallies is bad I think it just is interesting so so I get so I gave this kid a tip of I just gave him 20 bucks as I felt bad because I ordered a bunch of different shit and he was like hey you like

ice cream and I was like yeah he was like you like vanilla and why is I said you know what it's funny you say that because I got a podcast and partner that would laugh if he heard this right now I didn't say any of this and then he was like yeah he'd be so confused he would be yeah why are you telling me

this shit and he got me he got me a cup of vanilla ice cream with caramel wow that's nice that was the best thing I ate it was fantastic the kid must know you know what I mean the kid must know what's good there but the ice cream was great

it was a great vanilla vanilla cup with a caramel and then some other topping on it that I didn't know what what it was but it like a kind of like a crunchy like graham cracker sort of deal that was on there but it was a that was that was the best thing I had and was great like I really did enjoy it

but man everything else just fucking sucked I got a chili dog too the chili dog sucked and this one wasn't in a food court in a mall this was a stand alone this is standalone yeah okay so I like because the location I found in that in that area

it was was in a food court so I opted that's why I opted to go to the Hawthorne one to get the to get the you know sometimes the food court location isn't quite like a proper location I figured I'd go get the go to the stand alone restaurant but how about

that yeah by the way in that neighborhood hot fill chicken if anyone's ever there hot fill chicken is outstanding so alright that's a little tip it's a little Baldwin Hills tip um I that's interesting to hear because I will say I went to

I went to the Hawthorne location as I mentioned and I obviously can't speak to the side or to the the burgers rather or the the fish sandwich but the sides I had I had I thought were pretty decent I got the you know I got the fully loaded

size fully loaded fries rather which are there a side of the fully loaded fries is what I'm trying to say which is their season fries topped with cheese ranch and they come with bacon I got no bacon and so it's these were just their season fries slathered with cheese sauce and ranch

and I thought they were a gooey delight I had some of them fresh and then I had some of them when I got home and I thought they traveled pretty well I thought they were nice I thought this was like a good side now as my as an entree it was a pretty bad entree and this this speaks to what we're talking about earlier about sometimes at the as a vegetarian having to only order sides

there just isn't a good option here so it was either that or the the other thing I got the fry season monster elastic kind of would would be my main in this in this situation wise I got I got those as well they were they were fine they were fine mozzarella sticks but Natalie had the point that

they talk about them being fry season and that fry seasoning is not present at all it's like they just taste like regular mozzarella sticks you can give me the Pepsi challenge with these blind against any other mozzarella sticks mozzarella sticks from chilies mozzarella sticks from from BK and I would not be able to tell them apart these are these are

replacement level mozzarella sticks here's the thing I feel like mozzarella sticks are like I don't think a lot of these fast food places should have mozzarella sticks I feel it's that thing that I I think that it's like a stoner you know jack in the box does like stoner shit where it's like

you want munchies and you want mozzarella sticks none of them make them well there's no there's no grill mozzarella sticks from fast food places that stoner marketing is exhausting as well like I did just just lay off of that also I'll say monster Ella Mitch you mentioned

that bacon zillas trademarked monster Ella not trademarked wow anyone has a monster Ella spec they want to work on feel free it's yours yeah bacon zilla versus monster Ella for the checkers for the checkers verse

you have to do a bacon zilla movie then a monster Ella movie and then then it's like guys I think they're going to have monster Ella fight bacon zilla in a movie that's what they're building toward

I was I was thinking of like a dark Disney like a Cinderella with with with with like a monster you know how Disney does some of that fucking like a now we Maleficent you see you know what I mean you see the crew Ella

crew Ella how the legend began yeah fucking god we need new ideas they need that honestly honestly bacon zilla versus monster Ella is better than all that fucking I don't want to see cruel something fresh story yeah I gotta say Corolla I loved it

I loved it did you wow yeah it's good I saw in the theater I really enjoyed it I don't want to see the lady who kills dogs I don't want to see her origin story she doesn't kill dogs in this she's like alph alph don't eat cats but he's always

threatening to eat cats right it's like alph if you put a cat right in front of alph and said go to it here you go he he'd come up with some excuse run away I've said it before on this podcast but if you ever try with my cats I fucking knock his fucking teeth

out fucking I I would support you 100% with that fucking knock that snout into his fucking brain piece of shit alph do you Tom I'm you mentioned you got some fries as well and a drink how do those fries hold up

let me just say the fries were as bad as the fish sandwiches the fries were perplexingly awful and I've pieced together the mystery now was they tasted

they had a hint of some sickly sweet aspect and I'm realizing clearly there was some funnel cake fry overlap in the fryer that the fry I went late at night so

clearly that fryer was was whatever they were pumping out of there all day was still hanging in that grease trap and yeah they were kind of gross and slightly sweet and now when I look on the rally's menu and I see funnel cake fries

that's clearly what it was yeah yes yeah I got the funnel cake fries and you know mine were clearly made in separate batches so my funnel cake fries did not have any sort of fry overlap or if there was I couldn't detect it I'll say the funnel cake fries

are an interesting gimmick they're basically exactly what they sound like they're destined with a little bit of confectioners sugar but I cannot justify ever getting these for like I guess if you have a if you're like taking your nephew over to checkers and rallies

and that's what he wants that's the reason to get it but for an adult I cannot possibly justify ordering funnel cake fries that for as a caloric and as sugar laden as they were they just weren't all that all that tasty they weren't worth it they weren't worth a hit did you get any of those

those Mitch? No I as far as desserts go I got myself like I said that that vanilla which I still don't know what the crumbles on top of it there's like a cheese there's like a cheesecake sundae and it looks like similar toppings so I think it is

kind of like what did like what is what is the the pie crust for cheesecake it's like it's is it ginger cracker? Yeah it's I think it is maybe it's just crumbled up graham cracker but no the other dessert I got was

or the other treat the ice treat I got was the one of the Fanta slushies basically the by the way graham cracker could be a character in this in the rally's verse the checkers expanded universe

like he's a Brit he's like a nervous Liam Neeson is graham cracker picture the character poster he's like looking at a screen and seeing like this like the radar that this giant dot is moving closer on it

and it's like that's Baconzilla that's Baconzilla he's coming toward us I did the Fanta fruit punch slushie that's what it was and it was fine. I was eyeing that

it was it was just fine it was nothing spectacular I also got myself some fries I got a coke and some fries and the fries were weirdly bad mine were Tom I had a thing where I think mine just had like freezer burn

they just were not mine were not that great nothing was really and the kid at the window was great such a nice kid you love that kid if that kid was actually your friend he would have told you to go eat somewhere else

like this is your best buddy he should have just been like get out of here I guess he did fuck me over in that respect an awful meal like I said the fish sandwich is the best mozzarella sticks bad

the better side but still not good and then why is the chili dog one of your favorites and a great thing to eat coming off of not being able to eat for 10 days and having stomach issues the chili dog and Tom another situation where just the bio dome

going on I was sitting in my car eating this I pulled over into like a random parking lot was eating under like these and no one was in the parking lot like a grocery store parking lot with just the fucking lights on and I was eating this chili dog

and it fucking slipped right through the bun the hot dog was in my hand it fucking slipped through the bun into my hands and so it was it was fucking, it was nasty it didn't taste good also like things that shouldn't be that hard

you know what I mean like it shouldn't be that tough like a hot dog I'll be happy with most hot dogs I'm not picky with a hot dog I mean it tasted nasty I mean it doesn't even, it looks like shit look at this thing yeah Mitch is holding it up

if Sonic the Hedgehog if Sonic the Hedgehog got to look at that bad boy he'd just keep on running you know that that's I mean what's more damning than that his favorite food he'd bypass that one just a bad all around

Tom sorry what a bummer yeah sorry Tom well we should get to our final thoughts on checkers and rallies so Tom here's how this will work we'll each go around and give a closing argument if you will on this chain and then end by giving it a score from 0 to 5 forks

you are our guest we begin with you your thoughts, your fork score having eaten at checkers for many years and having considered it to be a decent enough place this was eye-opening

this slammed the door on me ever revisiting the checkers and or rallies, franchises again I've got to say I'm going to give it 1

because the soda was look 0 would be if the soda tasted like vinegar or something then I'd be like well congratulations you pulled off everything was wrong they did

fill the soda cup correctly and it was cold and carbonated so I got to say 1 fork it was truly I was truly sick to my stomach for the next day

wow what an indictment I had a really bad Wendy's experience recently I think I talked about it on the pod but I just had a terrible Wendy's experience where the food was shitty and they got the order wrong and then the soda machine was it was spitting out hot soda

they were like the guy in there was like it's like the coke is hot it was like spitting out hot coke is this the new Wendy's it's actually an accomplishment yeah right no this was in in Quincy before I left

that Wendy's was falling apart the one on Newport Ave yeah I got that I told you that's why I came back here is that the Wendy's opened up again I got to say I don't know why this look I'm not rooting for any restaurant or chain restaurant

to shut down because it employs people like my good friend who I met my good buddy the kid in the window he seems like a nice guy but it's that sort of thing of like why does this exist

I don't under I don't understand this place really sucks and if they can't if you can't make a burger a hot dog and it was like the kids in there

did a great job like it was hot it was hot it was what it was supposed to be there was nothing wrong with it it was just the actual ingredients were bad it was bad like I said the sandwich was the best thing I got it was crispy but like still just the factors

of like the bun and the lettuce it just didn't taste good nothing nothing really tasted good so I give the kid five forks I love the kid and I give bacon zilla versus versus a monsterella

I give that five forks but but man the restaurant itself one point seven five forks wags wow one fork three times yeah the ice cream not a good score

does the ice cream bring it up to two no I think one point seven five forks but there's nothing to be like the ice cream there's it's like the soda basically it comes out of the thing and then they put some graham cracker on top for you there was no

there was no there it would have been really hard for them to have boost the ice cream yes you're right it is yes like I was I was I was impressed with it just being like the only edible

good thing I had there but it's a machine and a lot of these places should be able to just serve soft serve that's that's decent so you're right it was it one point seven five is the realm I would maybe go lower I mean like it is

that you're you're right that like you can my cocoa my coca-cola was good even that even that slushy wasn't great I mean like it was just it just was fine nothing nothing nothing was nothing was good nothing was good you need to drive out there to Baldwin Park

find the kid enroll him in some computer programming classes get him out of there you're like I thought I thought you're gonna say I gotta find the kid and kick his ass which you know what you're just gonna be like I see something

in you you've got potential I bought you I bought you some classes learning programming hey kid you want to work for the dope boys no talking about you know what Baldwin Park also gets

zero forks thank you wow I feel like I felt like a historical neighborhood but I I felt like I saw a stray at one point and then I and the and I was like looking for it and then I thought I saw another like later and I was like I gotta get out of this

there there there might be strays running around I'm gonna I'm gonna be looking for strays all night long I don't know what I don't know what's going on in Baldwin Park but next thing you know you're playing trombone in the Brian Setzer Orchestra how do you end up here Baldwin Park Baldwin Park is like

the spot where it felt like when John Malkovich gets spit out of and being John Malkovich like it's it's if that spot was a town that's Baldwin Park there's some good food in Baldwin Park but uh oh yes

but it sounds like rallies and checkers is not one of them is not one of those options and I will say that it is like it is it is like the gutter from being John Malkovich I agree which is in New Jersey by the way that was I'll take full ownership over that as somebody from New Jersey

they were making fun of New Jersey it yeah he gets spit you there which is yeah Baldwin Park is the home of the first in and out burger so there you go so it has a little bit of fast food history as well

I will say I went to the authoring location I thought was pretty good the you know you talked about why does this place exist and 900 locations it's it's huge there's a lot of locations across the country and growing they're on the path to a thousand

I think part of it is that there is that just their operating expenses are not particularly high because they don't have an indoor dining room they just it's just a drive-thru and walk-up only so I think that that goes a long way the franchise I look this up it's it's 20 to 30 thousand dollars to open one of these

that's pretty low as fast food as restaurants go usually it's it's very often it's six figures or more to open one of these but these ones you don't need a lot of start-up capital to get one going so that's maybe why there's so many of these

I had an okay meal I would not go back there as a vegetarian I probably wouldn't go back there if and when I start eating meat or fish again either based on your two experiences but I do think the sides were pretty decent and I didn't touch on my classic vanilla milkshake as I like to say vanilla is a flavor

and they had a good vanilla shake it was it was totally fine it was right up there with like a Carl's Jr. Hardy shake I remember the novelty of rallies as a kid I remember when the first rallies opened in in Lakewood, California and that I remember the season fries like having these like all these stack up pretty well

against Jack in the Box's curly fries so I have a little bit of nostalgia attached to it but not a ton but overall I I don't know a disappointing outing just not as disappointing as your guys' experiences so I'm going to go a little higher and say

no why am I giving this two forks for I'm going to be the hand holding club with the spoon down I'm going to say one fork three times is what my rallies experience checkers and rallies experience deserves I was thinking of a scenario where like a being John Malkovich where

you crawl into the thing and then you're inside Nick Weiger and just it's the fucking a fucking boring ass day hey buddy no one ever wants to go back in yeah this guy sat in like a chair and not even looking

at a screen and you say like I know you're inside of me and I kind of like it Tom Sharpling the book is it never ends a memoir with nice memories thank you so much for doing the show please tell us about the book and anything else you'd like to plug

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a delight and an honor to finally have you on the pod I think I can say on behalf of both hamburger men we are thrilled that you made time for us I'm gonna retire that hateful phrase right now I will never

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a delight to have him yeah hey you know I butter toast from both sides now I thought you'd like that then you embarrass me in front of Sharpley you don't know who Joni Mitchell is I know who Joni Mitchell is I did not

I just didn't know that that specific song but I've heard I've know who Joni Mitchell is I bet if I heard the song I'd be like okay I recognize this should I look it up I mean we might get DMCA'd if we play you know if we play that audio on here

but I can look it up at least I can listen to it whether or not it makes it into the episode the song is called buttered toast no both sides now oh both sides okay both sides now Joni Mitchell all right or is it both sides maybe it's just both sides it looks like both sides now HD

is the video that I found you know who knows sometimes these YouTubers if it's not like Vivo official or whatever they chose their own title it's not actually what it's called but here we go you don't have to tell me that I know I know what these teenagers are doing with their Vivos

here we go this is Joni Mitchell's both sides now when does it get to the toast part soon okay ice cream castles yes wow

so this was already food themed so you're saying that I didn't do much of anything yeah you kind of like it it's like you did a parody of a weird owl song hahaha just feed it just feed it yeah your parodying eat it with feed it

I think that this should I think this song should just play under all Doughboys episodes it's pretty good put people in a tranquil headspace of course oh this is lovely there's a couple different versions of this song and there's one that she doesn't sing

I know that's very famous that's maybe the most famous one but she wrote it beautiful beautiful there you go you learned it you'll never embarrass me again if you bust out that exact parody again I will know the source

hahaha well it's over now hey Mitch yes nothing I was just going to say what's up Mitch here's what's up this is normally in the show where we would do a segment but

we actually have a little surprise today this is yeah this is fascinating a representative from your hometown reached out to us and asked to guest on the show so it's not though Dano would be a delight but this guest I think

will also prove to be a delight please welcome from the Quincy Massachusetts Chamber of Commerce John Quigley Adams is here hi John wow what how are you guys good to talk to you good to be here on Doughboys wow

hope you guys are hanging in there John Quigley Adams John Quigley Adams this is a that's me from the Quincy Chamber of Commerce working here 15 years going strong wow so

I just have a question they call me the chamber master cool Nick you gotta excuse me because I don't know and you know this may I may be dumb for not knowing this but what exactly what do you do

what does the chamber master what does that mean exactly what does it mean working in the Quincy Commerce sorry my headphones came unplugged and you know and that is a relatively dumb question

that I do get asked a lot but you know just being the chamber master just means I'm the head of the chamber of commerce of Quincy Massachusetts you know what I mean it's sort of a it's kind of the official title the chamber master and you know I will tell you

there's nothing to do with anything that I do at home privately with my wife okay fair enough we don't need to get into that here I feel like that seems like a warning it's just I'm just saying if you thought for a second that it had anything to do with what I do at home privately with my

own wife in our marital bed it has nothing to do with that I swear to God well now it sounds like you kind of want us to pry no no no don't I mean I'm an open book but I'm just saying it has nothing to do with that fair enough hey whatever someone does

in the privacy of their own home exactly and it's not sick enough for me to think it's sick then I'm all for it you can do whatever exactly and I appreciate that again it has absolutely zero to do with that at all

alright so you keep saying that but I'm wondering what it has to do with because nothing like I said but I know I get that I'll give you my wife's number you can text her after this and ask her about it she'll say it has nothing to do with it either

you can ask her whatever you want to and she's open about it as well about it not having anything to do with my job I'm not really comfortable texting your wife who I've never met asking her what chambermaster means now me on the other hand I am comfortable texting your wife

even though I've never met her and I would be fine texting her and asking her John the question I you're not answering my question of what you do I do as the chambermaster of the Quincy Chamber of Commerce

it just means that I sort of oversee the commerce of the city of Quincy that's it economy that sort of thing very simple I have my eyes on who's making money who's opening up businesses

who's closing businesses who's doing what where money exchanges hands my eyes are just there back and forth going oh you gave $5 to this place and that $5 went to the other place that's a simplification of it

even on that level just $5 transactions I'm always following $5 bills all around Quincy there's a ton of them too I swear to god there must be a time when a chambermaster could physically just track all of the bills but nowadays with all these all this e-commerce

all these digital transactions it must be even tougher don't even get me started on e-commerce my hair's turned in grey I'm only 45 years old but I look like I'm 55 no you don't look 55 I'm a Quincy, I'm a Quincy 6

that's what my wife says I'm a Quincy 3 I gotta say there's an elephant in the room and we ain't at the circus we're not at the circus but there's an elephant in the room I love the city of Quincy

I know it's history, there's John Adams and then also his son whose name is John Quincy Adams and so I was just wondering your name is John Quigley Adams yes sir, that's right the only Quigley I know

is Quigley Down Under there's the Tom Selleck movie where he goes, he's a cowboy American cowboy, he goes to Australia but I don't know if that has any connection you're saying am I related to or did my name come from the movie Quigley Down Under?

yeah I'm just wondering just based on your age like if it's possible that your parents saw that movie and were like hey we'll name him after Quigley, that movie we saw nope I have a second question is why are you named John Quigley Adams

that's my why are you named Mike Spoon Mitchell what's the origin of your name? Spoon is Michael Dunovan Mitchell that's my full name why is that your name?

well my mom and dad name me Michael my last name is Mitchell that's my sir name and my middle name when you were conceived they really liked the pop singer Donovan my mom did love

Donovan but Michael my mom's maiden name is Donovan it's a Korean Donovan oh I see okay well mine's sort of a similar story so my parents name me John my last name was Adams

I'm of no relation I was sentient from John Adams the second president of the United States and you know what that's a very common saying look there are some relatives of John Adams that live in the Quincy area Wednesday is there

Lurch I think is still no you're confusing the Adams families again but the Adams family exists in the lineage exists within the area cousin it I think moved to Somerville

is that right yeah he lives in Davis Square great movie theater there hopefully you don't get cousin it sitting in front of you and quickly really quickly just before you go on oh no please this is what I was trying to get back to

comes from do you remember there was an old movie with Tom Selick where he's like a cowboy and he goes down to Australia yeah I just referenced that out that's what that's from so that's exactly what I asked you and you said you batted it away

what did you say I asked if it had to do with that movie Quigley down under I think you said I think you said I think you did say Bert Reynolds okay is that what happened I could have sworn I said Tom Selick

I was thinking Tom Selick but maybe you said Bert Reynolds the other mustachio star of the 70s mm-hmm that was my that was my my parents uh were extras in that movie anyway so oh how about that that's cool is that that's how they met

no weirdly enough okay they were already married and they both got hired no no no I mean they they they they met like a few years after that but they just both were extras in that and then they were like oh we had we didn't realize we had this

shared history but check out our IMDb's we were both featured background in Quigley down under there's a couple things I think I have questions for your parents more so is is that they know John Quincy Adams existed but they named you John

Quigley Adams but that's maybe a smaller point to this bigger one and look I'm not trying to I'm not trying to ockerman you right now I'm not trying to get you but I don't know who that is so

Quigley down under came out in Quigley down under came out in 1990 okay oh okay and you have told us that you are a 44 45 year old man and so my question is

is that your middle name comes from Quigley down under and and I'm just trying I'm just fact checking here I should say I I originally speculated this so you know this maybe is partly

partly on me I thought that movie was older look and this is the last we're gonna talk about this because I'm here for a reason okay yes we need to move on from this I didn't have a middle name for many years

okay you know what this makes sense and so you were John Adams and then they said so I guess my question then goes back to your parents my mother and my father had a one night stand 45 years ago 46 years ago

okay wait a minute coincidentally years later my mother name meet my mother my mother's maiden name is Adams she gave birth to me I was John Adams she said I can't think of a middle name I'm too stressed I'm a single mother years later

they happen to be extras this makes this and then a few years after that they met up realized that they not only were in quickly down under together but also had had sex 40 or some odd years earlier or whatever

right I can't do the math you were right they had met before being extras on quickly down under yes wow at a bar so so my question then goes back to why did they name me John quickly Adams it sounds a lot like John Quincy Adams

I just have to say that I kind of a kind of a virtuosic if this was just you know reasoning out the logic on the fly that would have been a virtuosic display because it's his personal history he's just saying facts that happened to him so like you know

viewed through that prism it's not particularly impressive but if it was I would have been my mind would have kind of been blown the way he just made that all make sense I mean yes and if you can't make that make sense in your own head and do the math and put two and two together yourself then I can't help you now you you

you I just gave you my entire personal history of my two generations of my family if you can't put together why my name is John quickly Adams that's on you fair enough so I have I have one last I have I oh maybe

go ahead we've got we've got all day I just want to make sure because I'm I'm here for a very specific reason yeah yes because I was going to say that you know we got pretty far afield we're not just talking about my personal life like I said I'm an open book but we do have to move on

your life and fairness is fascinating and I'm glad we did delve into that I think people will be excited to hear about that but you you emailed me with some urgency regarding the email well hold on can I just really can I make one last comment about personal stuff of course yeah and this will be

absolutely last we talk about this all right has anyone ever told you you sound like Ted Ted who Ted Ted the bear Ted I I don't know what that's in reference to you know you've never seen Ted

Seth MacFarlane movie with Mark Wahlberg was very popular I love Seth oh Ted yeah Ted did I say Bert Reynolds just everybody just everybody with I think you did so everybody everybody with a Boston accent just sounds like Ted the bear

to you no I just I just thought you reminded me of Ted that's all you sounded like Ted yeah I don't I don't think I've gotten that before but also maybe it's because you're in California and everybody where I am sounds like like I do so fair point I didn't I mean

I've gotten rid of my accent I'm a cello I and I didn't mean to insult you you're here for a reason John Quigley Adams what is your what's your reason the chambermaster from the Massachusetts from the Quincy Massachusetts Chamber of Commerce I can only wonder

what what the deal is well I'm I'm here with with I'm asking for I'm asking for a favor because I'm coming to you with hat in hand and

you know sort of asking you for a favor because you know the truth of it is that the the Quincy economy as of lately has taken a big hit oh no

is that and that because of the the the COVID surge no it has nothing to do with COVID at all in fact COVID has not stopped us even a little bit you know it's a 99% survival rate right well I mean that that's kind of

an anti-vaxxer narrative so we don't necessarily want to platform that that's not I'm not and this has nothing to do with vaccines if you want to take the experimental vaccine you can but I that's it's you have my body my choice but just this sounds similar to when you when you were saying that you would tell us

about your personal life and that you're an open it sounds like I'm what look you brought up COVID I'm just telling you I'm just telling you what I know okay well I've researched so let's uh so let's not go down this rabbit hole you're saying that the economy of the economy of Quincy is suffering right now

it started going down hell about mid July and I'm here to I'm here to say Mike Mitchell we need you to come back man you would keep in the restaurant industry and the economy here going so

strong and we're just so devastated right now we're really hurting man oh my god now this is this is all because because you left all because I left so John Quigley Adams who's in charge

of Quincy the chamber of commerce you work in the chamber of commerce I oversee all the commerce I see where all the dollars and cents go and I'm telling you I have had barely anything to look at in the last month or so wow what one man's impact is that

and you mentioned on the restaurant sector the economy specifically yes yes did you know we've had to close 23 Dunkin Donuts in Quincy now we only have 45 left now hold on a second you're saying that when I was there was I going to every

was I going to the old 23 Dunkin Donuts was I I don't know you tell me it's just when you left they had too close do you know what I'm saying I certainly wasn't going to all 23 Dunkin Donuts in one day right but I'm saying Dunkin Donuts is all owned by one you know

corporate entity you know what I mean I will say there was that one day there was a one day where I did go to all 23 but that and actually I think that did happen a few times do you know how many jobs I'm making my morning Dunkin run I know you in four hours

I mean this people literally like we've had to lay off all these kids all these like high school kids who like don't have a job anymore and all these managers and stuff you I mean we've literally you're the reason that hundreds of people have lost their jobs in Quincy

my Dunkin run is a marathon because I go to all 23 Dunkin's it's basically the same and they're about a mile apart so it's basically the distance of the marathon a marathon it's a it's about 24 miles um right that you're doing your car that I do

in my car right well John Quigley Adams I got good news for you I'm coming back yeah breaking shoes I'll be I'll be back there at the end of August I know that look and look and this is what I told

everybody you know people are knocking down my dog going John John Quigley Adams chamber master of the Quincy Chamber of Commerce when are we gonna get back on our feet and I said don't worry Mitch never goes back to LA for more than like a couple of months at a time he always comes

home because he loves being in his mother's basement they have like a weird codependent thing going on it's like these always can I can I tell you it's not just the other can I tell you some and I know you're coming back but I just want you to see the breadth of the destruction that you have

caused in your wake okay here's all the restaurants that had to close down in Quincy okay nom nom these had to close down can you believe that I can't I can't believe that John Krestinsky's pizza

is closed now John Krestinsky oh that stinks an institution Teddy Chusky's is now closed the greens monster that salad that brand new salad restaurant that had so much promise yeah but you know what that probably wasn't

that probably didn't shut down because of me hahaha I don't know they they said oh they know you know what they serve they said they saw the lot you know those little pieces of like little crustinis of bread that come with the salad you said that they were they would they ran out of those immediately

hahaha I got a question for you when people were banging on your door to tell you was it a chamber door and also what was going on in the room when they were banging on your door I do not bring that stuff to work I'm talking about my office oh your office okay door what happens between

me and my secretary is none of your business of all that seems now that suspect do you guys know yeah do you guys know what ethical non-monogamy is never mind Vince Wilfark and knife closed

Vince Wilfark's restaurant Vince Wilfark and knife we close grill Russell grill Bella chick Ted Williams and Wilfark his other restaurant hahaha Dave Portnoy's

house of chicken tits oh boy wow wow you understand Dave Portnoy's only a millionaire now poor spider I know yeah that's rough Larry Turd which is the

name of what food gets turned into that restaurant closed yeah Larry Burt he doesn't have it I'm shocked that he doesn't have like a chicken themed restaurant it's called Larry Turd Larry's rotisserie Burt or something like that

he just goes to Larry Turd I mean the brand could have been part of the issue there I talked to them and they said everybody loves the name they had lines down the block cause of the name I will say that I've eaten at Larry Turds and I've eaten at Larry Turds quite a bit and I do like and the turds sandwich

is good it's a very good and they haven't sold one since you left I hope you're happy and the only other one that closed is Mark Wahlberg's burger place which I can't remember the name of but hahaha the Wendy's on Newport is still open

you know what they're hanging on by a thread wow even a Wendy's even a national chain restaurant that's what I'm saying we closed all those Dunkins Mitch we need you back okay and let me tell you something too it's not just restaurants

right it's um bathrooms yeah well there was a toilet family owned toilet repair company oh boy that's sad and now they're going around door to door door to door going is your toilet broken did a big fact turd get stuck

in your pipes and everyone's going no I'm sorry I don't know what to do they're literally out on the street knocking on doors going please please do you have any big turds stuck in your pipes and everyone's going no sorry sorry and they

went Mitch went back to LA yeah and they're begging for change it's so fucking sad this makes me sad come back to Quincy where you belong and look I know you'll be back in two months and I know you'll be back for Thanksgiving

and I know you'll be back for the holidays for like three more months hahaha but we need you here all the time I mean everything's on zoom now come on you could do the podcast from there you did it for that long please Mitch we've devastated over

here hey guess what what not only am I coming back at the end of August not going to be there for a couple weeks but then in 2022 we're adding a stop on the Doughboys live tour we're coming to Boston we're playing the Wilbur

theater again two shows and then you know what else we're playing at Foxwood's we're going to be playing there you go we're going to be playing at Foxwood's so not only am I going to be there but there's going to be a bunch of Doughboys fans are going to be coming to the Quincy area please who are

you know they're usually pretty big my size if you wouldn't mind send them to Quincy have them get lunch breakfast lunch dinner you know the residents of Quincy the local residents would be happy to have each and every one of them in their home to take a fat part in their toilet

to help out the genetic family it's the least they could do just eat all the food that you can and look I mean I hope that's enough to sustain but and if I and if and if and if Nick is it okay if I just address the listeners directly right now please do

please do listeners please if I know you have a fondness for Quincy and Mitch and Dano and Micahson and all these guys that you've just come to know and love the town of Quincy just you know

the greatest little city in the world is what we call ourselves the city of the city of presidents is also what we call ourselves the city that is overlooked by the Chamber Master that's what we call ourselves

please do whatever you can to get Mitch to get Mitch canceled and his career somehow so that he has to move home permanently I think this could backfire because he does need the man does need to make a living so if you get him

canceled okay that's I'm not going to be able to eat I'm not going to be able to eat at all these restaurants oh we'll make you eat I'll put you I'll put you down and I'll put you down in the chamber and force feed you oh also by the way listeners always already did try to cancel me for

for just an episode we had so yeah this might just happen naturally so you don't have to encourage it okay good well you know that listeners keep doing what you're doing you know John Quigley Adams and an absolute honor to have you here thank you so much for

spreading awareness honor of my life to be on this podcast John Quigley Adams before you go I've never been more on it in my life to be part of anything ever in my life and I'm so privileged to be here John Quigley Adams before you go just give us one small detail of what goes on

behind the scenes in your in your house we want we want to know something that goes on let's just say that the chambermaster with all the relationships that I have at all the restaurants here it looks a lot like that one scene from that movie nine and a half weeks

okay some food involved in some sort of sexual congress yeah I'm like I thought this would be the appropriate podcast to bring it up on it yeah for sure if anywhere is down with food fucking it is it's it's it's the

no boys listeners that's all I'll say that's all I'll say and and you know just I would love to see a picture of your wife because I'm starting to feel like she might just be I would love to show you a picture over a watermelon with can I can I hang out after the record and

share and like screen share a picture of her for you guys yeah well actually you can go ahead and screen share it now if you like okay alright he's wait a minute your wife is Lois my wife is the woman that Lois from Family Guy

was was based after wow she was the model for Lois no wonder you sound like Ted because Ted is just like sounds like Peter Griffin or those are totally separate things to me that's not I my wife Seth McFallen was walking down the street

in Quincy one day going to Larry Terz and he saw my wife having lunch and he said he said can I draw you and she said come back to my chamber and then the three of us wow photo session this wow alright that's good that's good enough for me

that sounds a lot like the type is that enough detail for you that sounds like that sounds like it sounds like the erotic scene the erotic scene in Titanic I I appreciate you worrying about the Quincy economy that that to me is

that's important to me too but we're going to be back for the Wilbur shows I'm going to be back for a couple weeks visit and we got a show in Foxwoods we're playing at Foxwoods it should all run its course so hopefully he will give the boost the Quincy economy so desperately needs run its course just like COVID

just it'll run its course alright remember that the vaccine has not gone through the proper clinical trials okay I think we've I think we've heard enough from the Quincy Massachusetts Chamber of Commerce John Quigley Adams thank you so much John thank you guys yeah hurry back Mitch we love you

well I love you too John wow hey hey hey wise I was just thinking we're playing we're playing at Foxwoods the place where earth wind and fire usually plays and I just I just I started I started to think

what if earth wind in fire was playing in a concert with the band Hart and then Roger Waters showed up do you think that would summon Captain Planet okay

if earth wind in fire we're playing a concert and the band heart yes who sings crazy crazy crazy on you right doesn't heart sing that song sounds right then Roger Waters he makes the

appearance he plays a solo and one of the would that summon Captain Planet in this mega concert I think what would happen is that it would summit Captain Planet and to Neil well well we've covered just about everything on this app

what a conversation with John Quigley Adams what a bunch of different places I thought he had a kind of clear agenda going in but we really talk I am glad about glad we had the convo I think I think that I reference Ted I think it might have been as long as the movie Ted

just like a restaurant let's open up your feedback and today we have an email from Aaron G in St. John New Brunswick Aaron writes are there any family dishes from your childhood that you loved but would never dare to eat now or even just dishes that seem odd or dated

now that time has passed when I was growing up my family would eat saltine crackers as cereal in a bowl with milk and sugar my mom and I both used to love it but have tried it again in recent years and it is kind of gross not sure if there's a difference in the crackers but the tastes have changed but the magic is gone

thank you to the whole DB crew for genuinely improving my life on a regular basis you're all the sickest of nast and three heart emojis that's very nice thank you Aaron G and New Brunswick a meal that we had that we at some point were we have the opposite of nostalgia

for it seems like or a snack something that we had as a kid that we don't really crave anymore a kid thing specifically I brought it up on this episode I was just talking about dipping my fish and chips in the ketchup yes and I'm sure that I used ketchup in like gross ways that I still do use ketchup on scrambled eggs

I know that a lot of people think that's disgusting oh I like it I like ketchup on scrambled eggs but um there's probably stuff like that honestly the thing that comes to my mind first is

and why cause I talked about it on the podcast before but like there was heart history in my dad's family he like for him he had high cholesterol he like a lot of like the low cholesterol stuff and that like skim milk or whatever skim milk I still would probably drink

and not care about or use in cereal and not care about but one thing he did which is like this is like an old this is like this is this shows how much has changed in the years but he would have his he would cook his steaks like medium well

to well done like a thing that you like cook the fat out of it and so thinking of that growing up like we used to eat steak with ketchup again there was another thing that I would catch up with steak um and I wouldn't do that anymore but we used to have well done steak and I would not

eat I would not eat well done steak I would not want to like I would be bummed out if I got if I I went to a tois mech and I got the the the big mech fancy little beaster out here uh huh and uh

celebrity chef Ludo Lefeb Ludo well it was I got a medium rare and it was in the burgers or like more closer to like well done and I was I was sad I like what a bummer I like I like a great restaurant but I like uh I like a

a more I need I mean medium rare now I'm a medium rare guy great restaurant but not the kind of place you expect a kitchen air it's a pretty you know pretty fancy spot um I will set it no it's fine I mean it's it's

it happens I was going to say what what you were talking about things that you had as a kid like like first off the well done steak is a weird thing because I remember a similar thing and I remember just meet just being like the first time I had medium rare steak was at a hibachi restaurant and it was

like a like what a teppanyaki grill sort of place like it like it wasn't the it wasn't a benihana it was a rip off of a benihana uh but I remember it being like a revelation I was like oh I didn't realize that steak could taste like this because I had so many just like like grilled all the way through you know medium well or

or well done steaks as a kid I think for largely the same reasons there was a time and and when it was like yes this is the healthy thing to do is that you cook it down uh but but the the main thing I think of for my child is just shit that was just loaded with so much sugar like a fluffer nutter sandwich

a sandwich with peanut butter and marshmallow cream I don't think I'd eat that anymore and that was such a treat I had as a kid I think I think we used to get in bulk from Costco is like Kern's fruit nectar which is like those super duper sweet concentrated fruit juices or uh or Svenhard's pastries just

like a big old thing of like bear claws and like you know uh raising roundies like just a whole huge fucking thing of of these fruit pastries these danishes that were just like so so sugary and so processed but I used to love them as a snack and I bet I wouldn't like them nowadays

I will say the snack described in Aaron G's email salty crackers and cereal I had a roommate in college who would have he would like put cheez-its in a bowl and cover them with milk and eat that like cereal and I never I never tried it excuse me I never tried it but he assured

me it was delicious I think I think I've heard this before but that is fucking putrid yeah yeah Svenhard Svenhard sounds like a die-hard like sequel honestly it just sounds like uh it sounds it sounds like something you would overhear in

one of your videos one of my videos one of your one of your well I guess you don't have videos anymore for my private collection like on my hard drive it sounds like a very like who wants to sex matumbo type of uh

oh sure yeah like a like a Sven shows up at a party and is like Svenhard I'd like that you'd like to see that in a movie uh MR producer and anything come to mind do you have any snacks that you had as a kid

or foods that you had as a kid you love them as a child and then now you're thinking back on it and you're like I would never have this again or it's weird that I've ever tried this another one that comes to mind for me actually real quick is is you mentioned ketchup on things Mitch I used to not like grilled salmon I love salmon now but I used to not like salmon the only way to eat with ketchup now

that sounds revolting to me like a grilled or sauteed piece of or pan roasted piece of salmon with ketchup it's just like ruining it but Emma sorry anything from your childhood that you liked and would dislike now um I I used to hate most things

I was a super picky eater and I used to put I used to put honey on like everything it was the only way I would eat most stuff like I wouldn't eat chicken unless I covered it in honey oh wow but I don't think I would do that now I think that would be kind of gross not honey mustard like just

yes which is you know what you're saying that I'm like honey honey covered chicken that sounds kind of good I mean like honey mustard covered chicken yeah you can you know I'll have I'll have like a plate like you could get some it's a similar sort of thing

if you have like chicken and waffles and you get a little little syrup on your chicken there's no there's no problem at all with that no that sounds fine but I feel like that's the point of the plate like my dad would make like chicken with green beans and potatoes or something and I would just cover it in honey like it just does it now it sounds gross

it sounds gross to me but I also used to eat my fish and chips with ketchup and I used to eat ketchup on a lot of fish and I wouldn't do that now that sounds so gross fucking gross yeah boy I gotta say all this talk of honey is making me think

about that joke we supposedly made about dad's cum tasting like bee honey we'll find that clip send it to spoon man drops at gmail.com and wise you know what I'm gonna say this um that uh

to add to my shit list is kids kids eat gross shit grow up kids are gross become adults that's what they're trying to do go to the fucking old old beach

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when he gets hit by fucking sunbeams you just fucking turn to dust on the old beach I love it I'd fucking last a while on the old beach I'd be fine our thanks to Tom sharpening our guest and Mookie Blake lock who opts out with that bitch I got this podcast you are worthy with little Mookie B

that was John Quigley Adams was Mookie no Mitch I'm afraid boy I hate to spoil the illusion but yes it was John Quigley Adams was in fact a character portrayed by Mookie Blake lock of you are worthy with a little Mookie B damn I was

how does that explain how I've been to Larry turds so many times I'm confused I'll do it for this episode of dope boys so next time for the Spoon Bad Bag with John Quigley happy eating see ya on the next dope boys double it's another edition of dope boys pilot program our survey of TV

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